The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - KARMA ALWAYS COMES BACK Ft. Kalen Allen

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

Video available on Spotify. This week, Drew is joined by Kalen Allen to talk about Beyonce's world dominance, secret airport terminals, and literally everything in between. They unpack Kalen's origin story and transitioning from social media to mainstream media work as a creative, how Drew danced so hard she lost a lash, Target pride sections, how Kalen got into Beyonce's birthday show Drew made Tina Knowles laugh, and so much more! Drew: https://linktr.ee/drewafualo Kalen: IG / TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

And if you're so concerned about a rainbow, I don't know what you do when it rained. You, I know you, your ass be standing in the window cursing at the sky. Does that big ass rainbow be sitting there and you'll be mad as hell? You'll be sitting there like, look at this gay-ass sky. Everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your favorite. Everybody knows me. Look, it's cold in New York for once. It's cold.

You know what? New York is growing on me because I get to wear cute little things like this. And also, I get to have amazing guests, like the one I have today, on to the amazing guest of the hour, the one and only, Kailen Allen. Woo! Hello, darling. Hello, how are you? What do you mean that New York is cold now?

It's now, because I've been here like at least nine times this year. Oh. All the other times with the exception of when I came like three weeks ago, it's finally cold. So this is your first time for it to be cold? Like this year. Okay. Because I've been here all year and it was not. It was colder, I guess, the first time I came early in the year.

like March. Okay. Then it's been the devil's asshole hot. Oh. And then now it's cold. So you have experienced the New York code. Yes, I do. Okay.

Which is nice. Honestly, I think I came once in the spring and it was like not hot, not cold for once. I was like a nice perfect temp for anything. Nice 65. Yeah, but everything in the middle, hot as hell. Yeah. So incredible hot.

I'm honored to have you. Well, thank you so much. I'm honored to be here. You are such a legend, social media. I know you since your food reaction videos long time ago. Yes, yes. So tell me how did that all come about?

How did you start doing the videos? How did you end up to where you are now? Well, the funny thing about the food videos is that they were by accident. Really? So it wasn't something that I was planning to do or that I wanted to do. You know, and this was before TikTok even existed

or any of that. So you really just had like Twitter, Instagram, Facebook at the most basic level of what it was. There were no reels. There was none of that. Creator wasn't even a thing that existed. Yeah, literally. And so I was in college in Philadelphia.

And I believe that I am divinely guided. And so I just follow any type of intuition that I have. And right before going to one of my jobs, which at the time I had five jobs, I had a feeling that I should record myself watching this sponsored video that I saw on Facebook of some cornbread being made. I don't know why. I had never thought of doing this before. Really?

And so I said, okay, so I put up the phone, I pressed the recording, I recorded the video, and I uploaded it. And from the very first video, this was November 2017, it went viral. And then after that, I was like, well, I guess I got to keep doing these because people like them, you know what I mean? So I filmed my first episode of the Ellen DeGeneres show in December 2017. So this is only a month time, and then I moved to Los Angeles in January. And then I worked at Ellen for five years up until the...

end of the show. Yeah. And then I transitioned and moved to New York. And then since then, you know, I've done movies, TV shows, but I've done Food Network. I've done a whole bunch of stuff. I just did a show for Roku channel called Celebrity Family Food Battle that comes out next year. So it's like, you know, I think for me it's like there are a lot of people that stumble into this industry. However, I've spent my entire life studying and prepping myself for it.

You know, I have two degrees in theater and film and currently getting my master's in journalism I'm at NYU. Okay, period. Look, too. Studio. You know, and so it's just a part of my being, and I don't think of what I do as fame or celebrity. I look at it as a career.

Yeah, absolutely. It is my job. I love that. Would you say you were someone who, like, when you first recorded the video, was everyone around you kind of like, this is literally how he is. He is just, that's who he is. Because I feel like, especially when you start off as being someone who's known as comedy-based, they're kind of like, are they really like this?

Or is this kind of just for the giggles, for the funds, for the virality of it all? But where all of your close friends like, no, this is literally how he is. Yes. And I think even when you talk about like the success, I think if you ask anyone that knows me if they are surprised, they will say no. Right, period. Well, you know, for me, especially in a world like this, because I think this is also where a lot of digital creators get tricked up in it. It's because they create a character. And the problem with that is that longevity needs to have a foundation of authenticity.

Absolutely. Otherwise, you will, one, get tired of the act. Or two, you won't be able to sustain it as you enter into different pockets of the industry. Right, for real. Or they'll catch you slipping kind of thing. Exactly. They'll catch you in a moment where you're not being that. Right.

And I feel like to that same point, I think that's why, like, even in the era of, like, YouTube when it was like the era was very curated. It was very picture perfect. Like everything was perfect. Well lit. Yes. Fully beat down. Beautiful house,

beautiful outfit. And people lost interest in that because it started falling. Like people started falling from grace because you start seeing them as who they really are, which is human. Correct. Right. And then you can't keep up that like image forever. It's exhausting too.

Yes, it is. And I feel like even for me, like with my platform, I feel like, I blew up the same way in the sense that that's just like my opinions in who I am. And people gravitate, I think, like you said, more towards authenticity. Like they want to see that more now, especially now, now that everyone is so, it's so, like, common to go viral. It's so common to be, like, an influencer or whatever. I think now more than ever they want to see people who are authentic.

Right. And I think even with that point, you're talking about how, like, for instance, I talked about how like TikTok didn't exist, you know, and that has changed so much. Yeah. And now we're getting to a place where so many people are able to go viral and it doesn't hold the same effect.

Yeah. And I think that's why you have to be a multi-hyphenant and you have to be versatile because the problem with that is that of oversaturation. Yeah. You know? And so it's like, well, if everybody can go viral, if everybody can have this media followers,

then what's special about you? Exactly. And I think really you have to figure out who your audience is and who you're serving and who, and who you want to cater the content to, you know, as to why they should be watching you. Yeah, absolutely. Well, one of the things I admire about you, too, is your ability to flip your virality into a career pretty quickly, right? Especially back then, like when you said, it was more, there was really no short form existing at the time, other than something like Vine, but even that died pretty quickly.

Yeah, that died really quick. So it was like your ability to turn it into something where it's based off your. personality and why people gravitate towards you, not necessarily just like, oh, I'm just food. Like, I just react to food. You've been able to kind of flip it into a career so people can put you in different pockets, like you said, and you'll still thrive and flourish. So how was that, like, transition for you from, like, kind of capitalizing off the quickness of the virality and turning it into a career? Well, I always tell people first is that I'm a business person. Period. From jump. That's the way I think of everything. I'm always,

no matter what I do, whatever opportunity or even viral moment, I'm always like, how do I turn this into something bigger? How do I make this last? You know what I mean? Absolutely. And to be honest, I think it's just a big part of just who I've always been. And maybe this is also, my mother used to be an HR manager at an ad agency. Okay.

And so I do a lot of marketing and stuff like that as well because I think I live. lived in it while I was growing up. It's just like second nature to me or how to market. But I also give a lot of credit to Beyonce. Because when I was growing up, I studied the

documentaries and like the concert tours and more so not about the concert but how she worked. And her dedication to that and her process, you know? I think I looked at people like Oprah and I looked at how they worked and how they created brands and stuff like that. And so

Now, to be fair, I think because of this new age of digital media, sometimes that can be my Achilles heel because I tend to think in a more traditional route when it comes to certain stuff. And for instance, especially when it comes to like creating content, I have to constantly tell myself, Kaelin doesn't have to be scripted. It doesn't have to be, you know, produced very heavily. Like, you don't need to worry about that, just being the moment. You know what I mean?

But I think because I'm an actor and I'm used to being. giving a script and having rehearsal and having a process, it's kind of hard for me to live in a moment. But I'm also a Capricorn. So there's that too. You know what's funny is I appreciate that you're open to that, like to the more social media take on just like how you film things, how you market things.

Because obviously for myself, like I'm like the genesis of my whole entire businesses from social media. So that's kind of the original lens I've looked through. And then now that I'm moving, I'm kind of doing the opposite, like moving into more traditional forms, I've had to kind of work with people, when I work with either it's brands or partners or whatever, we kind of have to meet in the middle a little bit because traditional media people are a little hesitant. It's just a completely different process. But I'm glad that you're open, because some people are not open at all. And they're very resistant to it. Well, let me speak about that a little bit.

Yeah. This is the thing. And this is where I struggle when it comes to digital media. Yeah. And the TikTok's of it all. Yeah. For instance, we talked about buying, right? Mm-hmm.

Gone, right? Twitter has now evolved into X, right? Horrible. Instagram is no longer a pitcher heavy place. Now it's strictly all real. Yeah. Digital media to mean is so new. Yeah.

That it is always evolving. Constantly. Which limits stability. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But when you look at TV in traditional forms, regardless if it is a streaming network or not, it has always remained. Yeah. It's just the thing that has changed is how you access it.

Yeah. That's all that has changed. I feel you. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's like you may still now, instead of watching a show or a movie on cable, you're watching it on a streaming network. Yeah. And it's also more accessible in many different ways.

Yeah. And so to me, there will always be longevity there because it has a more solid foundation. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, yes, digital media, it is great right now. We are doing wonderful. You know, you go viral, you get your followers, you go to these events, you go to these concerts. But will it last you in lifetime? Yeah.

And at the end of the day, my only concern is being able to pay my bills and take care of my family for the rest of my life. I feel you. And so I'm all about figuring out, well, what is going to sustain me. Yeah. Well, that's why I commend you on being able to flip it. Because I think that's where you get caught up in it. Like that's where it fizzles because you solely stay only on social media. Right. So like in order, I feel like in order to sustain when you blow up on social media first like myself, you have to immediately start rolling balls in other directions. Right. You have to immediately start capitalizing. Well, even when you think about like the fame of it. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, okay, you may have 10 million followers on. TikTok, but that is such a niche audience that even if you go to Target, people still may not even recognize you. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, that's why I said it depends, it depends on how you move after. Right. Right. Because some people, like some people have 25, 30 million

followers and some people have never heard of them. But some people may have two million or even less than that and a lot of people know them. Yes. So it's really, I think it really just depends on how you move right after you get it, which is I think that's what I commend you for is because you have lasted this long, even though technically you did blow up with your food videos, that's not the only thing that you've been doing forever. Right. You've been able to kind of move in other directions, which is a good thing. I was like, you're just like me, for real. I'm trying to move in other directions immediately. Yeah. Because social media is so fleeting, right? And it's like people get bored, they move on. They find new people to like obsess over. So,

it's like it's it's just so I think like key that you immediately like move and find out what else you want to do like how else can I turn this into other forms of business so what are other than like acting has there been any other kinds of business that you've been really interested or you've pursued and you've been like I'm going to use this to like start like clothing or a fragrance or skincare or whatever well I think really I tend to stay more in like the performing arts you know Especially now that I live in New York. I just announced a Christmas single that's coming out this year. How exciting.

Yeah, thank you. Congratulations. I've done a whole Christmas album that will come out next year. You can sing too. I'm jealous. Well, I tell people all the time I was like, I didn't do those things because I wanted to be a music artist. I did those things because I always think long form. And I'm like, I know I want to do Broadway.

Love. Oh, I love Broadway. As a digital creator, when you try to enter into these spaces that they only have a very tunnel vision of who you are, regardless if I have the degree or not. Yeah. I needed to be able to prove literally that I could do it. Totally. That I've been doing this.

You know what I mean? So it's almost like having the receipts, you know? Yeah. Like they were not going to die in for your me, okay? I was going to be like, I got the receipts, baby. You know, so that was my focus when it came to that. But I think now that I'm moving, I feel as though I've been doing this long enough that I no longer feel like a caterpillar in a cocoon.

Oh, that's good. I feel like I am ready to spread my wings. Period. And create what's for me, you know? So I definitely have been thinking about, like, writing more TV shows, writing more movies, writing a book, creating a seasoning line, you know, always paying homage to the roots of my career. So I've definitely been strategizing and figuring out. Cool.

And I also feel like I've started to create and mold a solid team of support that gives me a little bit more freedom to then express myself creatively because I don't have to do so much administrative stuff. Yeah. Oh, a team is so important. A good team is so important. It'll make a break you. Girl, especially in this world. Okay. It'll make a break you.

I know you talk a lot about Beyonce. I know that's a big part of your beginnings too, because you love Beyonce so dearly. As do I as a fellow Virgo girl. Come on, Virgo. And she's the only Virgo that matters in my humble opinion. And did you go to Renaissance?

I'm assuming you did go to race on 24. Oh yeah, honey, I went four times. I went twice. Okay, where'd you go? I went September 2nd at SoFi and then I did the birthday show. Oh, I was at the birthday show. Period. Did you, do you know the story about how I got to the birthday show though?

No. Okay, girl. So I woke up that morning and my spirit said, Kaelin, you need to be there. Beyonce needs you there for her birthday. Listen. Honey, I bought that ticket and I flew to L.A. the same day. That same day. That same day.

landed in LA, went straight to the stadium, went in my outfit on the plane, didn't have no luggage, stayed in a hotel that night, and flew out the morning, the next morning. Originally the flight was that night, but I was like, this show not going to be over by the time this flight is. So I stayed in a hotel by the airport and then got on the first flight out the next morning and flew right back. Damn. What other shows did you go to? I did both New York's. Yeah. And then I did the last one in Kansas. Kansas City because I'm originally from Kansas City. Oh my gosh, that's right. Okay, how was that one? I feel like it was just legendary. So the show itself was great. Yeah. The experience, Kansas City isn't built for stuff like that.

No. Kansas City has gotten a lot of popularity recently because of the Chiefs. The Chiefs, yeah. And now Taylor Swift. Yeah. You know, and they are not built for that. No, they aren't. And the actual process of getting into the concert was hell.

Was it really? To the point where I was like, I am never coming back. to Kansas City for a concert again. You know, but the actual show itself superb. Like, it was her last one. She was given everything on there. Everybody was there. Cardi B was there. Kelly Rowland was there.

Yeah. Everyone was at that birthday show too. Yes, everybody was at the birthday show. But L.A. crowds are whack when it comes to concert. See, I wanted to create balance because I don't want people thinking I'm ragging on Kansas City. If you ever been to a show in L.A., let me tell you what the problem is.

Everybody in the audience is somewhat affiliated to celebrity or famous in some way. To something. So they're too busy trying to look cute. You know, or get the picture. You know what? I felt that. See? Were you in, were you in Club Renaissance? Yes. Okay, it was dead in there.

It was very dead. It was dead. It was dead in there. Yes. The best crowd to me was in New York. Ooh. Yeah. And I was in, I was on, first show, I was on the onstage risers. And the second shop was in the Beehive Pit. To me, the best seats were to beehive pit. Yeah. But like, everybody was just living and having good, good time. LA people, they're too much about aesthetics. Everybody's too busy trying to look cute.

Okay, you know what? That's honestly so real because when I was in Club Renaissance at the birthday show, I could not believe how many people were standing still. I was dancing so hard. I sweat a lash off, girl. See? I lost a lash. And I didn't realize until I watched the footage back.

This lady kept bumping in me. I'm missing a lash, bitch. Yeah, yeah, honey, no. I was dancing so hard. I was dripping sweat. I even like, you know what's so funny is like, I got. styled for it because I was lucky enough to go with Beyonce's hair brand. Oh, yes.

Okay. Yeah. So then you were also in that little side section. And I think I might have seen you. You probably did because I stopped out there because I knew a lot of people that were like Bratman and Kai and everybody was over there too. But what we really need to talk about about the birthday show. Now maybe you didn't have to do this because you came with the hair brand.

Yeah. With them damn ramps to the floor seats. I did actually have to do that on the way out. Why did I have to walk down? six ramps to get to the floor seat. For real. In heels, mind you. I had heels on, too.

Ridiculous. I had heels on. You know it's so funny, though, I brought a big clear bag because I had gone to the September 2nd show. So I knew to bring a big clear bag. Because they were like, get rid of this bag. It's not going in there. So I brought, I literally brought crocs in my bag.

As soon as I got down there, as soon as those lights turned off, I was like, taking off the heels, put on my crocs. And I was crocking all night, girl. See, and I should have done that. I tell you, another place I won't ever be again. So far stadium. Not if I got floor seats. Yeah.

That was crazy. Getting out is horrible. Oh, I had to walk to the damn casino to get an Uber. Oh, yeah. Getting out of the stadium is a nightmare. I had to walk to the casino because for some reason, they built this big old plaza courtyard that you don't, no directions on where you're supposed to go.

None at all. And so I had to walk all the way down to the casino. And I just sat there until the traffic died down. It's a real, it's a real free-for-all after that. It's like a, it's the, The Trek girl. They're like, good luck. Good luck.

Yeah, good luck. Getting home. Don't know how you're going to get there. I know. With getting out of the stadium, it was so funny because there was, the lines were so long. It's just, everyone's just standing and waiting to leave. Yeah. I even asked the security guard.

I was like, is there another way out? And they were like, mm-mm. No. They were saying, you could try and take the stairs, but that's worse. And I was like, yeah, because you have to take 30 flights to get all the way to the middle. Yeah. And then you can get out. Yeah.

And then you get up there. And this plaza. with 50 other theaters. Yeah. It's like a YouTube theater. It's all these other theaters. I'm like, honey, just take me to the car. This is crazy.

You're like, I feel like I'm never going to get out of here. It ain't no public transportation. So it's not like you can go get on like a metro or something. Nothing. Huh, the inconveniences of life. How was the New York show getting in and out? Was that okay? Easy.

Really? I drove. It was in Jersey. And see, this is why I was easy is because don't nobody drive here. But I drive. And so it was in Jersey The American Dream Mall at MetLife Stadium. Okay.

And so, honey, I got there. It was $45 for VIP parking. I parked right in front of the stadium. I was back home in 20 minutes. Were you really? Yeah. Oh my God, I'm jealous. Yeah, because they don't drive out.

So everybody took the subway and they know the West Coast. Yeah. That's true. The West Coast could never. No. Everybody drove. Yeah.

New York. Beyonce's hair rent, thank you so much, Beyonce's hair rent, because they had cars. Yes. I love that we still don't. don't have a name.

I know. You know what's so funny is I saw people after the fact they were like and none of all of them are using this hashtag and I'm like we had to girl like they didn't tell us a name. Yeah. I just signed a million NDAs. I don't know anything. I don't know anything at all. All I know is it's her hair brand.

That's it. Trust me. I know the life of Parkwood. That's all that's the only information they would give me. But I was grateful. And I got to meet Tina Knowles for like half a second. There you go. And she was stunning.

Yes she is. And I told her, I said, fan of your work. By your work, I mean your daughter. And I made her laugh a little bit. And then I was like, I love that for me. She'll never remember me, but I'll always remember her. As you should. I love that. You got to see Bea Chella. I'm so jealous.

My sister got to go to that. I'm so jealous. Well, you know, I've had the fortunate blessing to be able to work with Parkwood on multiple times. You just talked about Miss Tina. For the World War Art Gala last year, I hosted the red carpet for her, which is where I met Beyonce. How amazing. But yes, I also went to Beachella.

I think I didn't miss this card to show World Tour. I saw Formation World Tour twice. Gosh, I'm so jealous. Honey, I went to Made in America for Beyonce. Love. Honey, I've been the beehive for life, okay? You're certified. Okay.

And you've met Beyonce. Yes. How was she? Oh, heavenly. I think it was what was great is that specifically it was me and Zach Campbell. And we stood in front of her and she turned and she immediately knew both of us. You know? Oh, my gosh.

So I think that's also so special because it's, it's crazy. shows that, you know, what we're doing and the work we're doing means something. Yeah. If it's being able to make ways and reach her, you know what I mean? So, yes. No, she was absolutely motherly. It's so funny because when I went to the September 2nd show, I took my mom and my sister and I took my cousin, who's like, Ben, he's a diehard.

Like, he's been to every world tour. He's just a diehard fan. And he went to the Renaissance tour like three times. So when I took him, he was like, oh, my gosh, I'm so excited. I was like, yeah, I have another ticket. let's go. And he was like, oh my gosh, what if we get to meet her?

I was like, I love that you think I'm not important. I'm not that important. I swear to God, I'm not. I was like, I appreciate that though. But she don't give a fuck about me

and that's okay. She shouldn't. She's busy. She is busy. But yeah, I literally, I sobbed at the Renaissance tour. Oh my gosh.

I never thought I would get to see her live ever. I don't think I've ever seen. Yeah, I've never seen her live. Really? Okay, great. Well, that was a great show to see that. It was. Oh, she's so stunning.

Beautiful. Perfect. We could talk about her all there. Yes, we could. And would. And I would make no apologies for it. Okay. Okay, so, but today's topic is we're going to be talking about making your mark as a comedianable social media and traditional media like we've been talking about because Kaelin is an expert.

And for those of you who don't know what we do here on the comment section is I bring videos that I was tagged in that are applicable to our topic today. And then we laugh, Kiki, talk about them, make fun of them if we have to, all of the necessary things. So for this first video. video, a stand-up comedian is doing a set, and he's telling a joke and starts with this gender-neutral pronoun is very confusing. He says he was having a friend over for dinner, and he asked if his friend could come to. The comedian said, yeah, you can bring him, and the friend said, no, bring them. So the comedian assumed tons of people were coming, says he made tons of food, and when he saw it was just one person, he was so mad. He made them

eat all the food. Okay, so this is obviously someone who's against pronouns, even though everybody has pronouns. And this is a stand-up comedian who clearly, it's like, I think it's one of those things where there are some people who start in traditional media like stand-up comedy, for example, and they're so stuck in their ways that they're unwilling to adapt to,

whether it's just the world in general, culture, whatever maybe, be more inclusive, because that's such a huge ask, apparently, for some people. I think so much so that it stops them from being able to succeed on social media as well, which I think is now they kind of go hand in hand. Like you kind of have to have

a presence in both to some extent. So thoughts? Well, one, I think it's a pride issue. I think a lot of stuff like this is more so people feel self-righteous to be able to say that they're like standing up against something. That's such a good point. Yeah, but when

I was a kid, my mother used to always tell me that a joke isn't funny if you're the only one laughing. You know? Word. So, and I think also people, especially when it comes to comedy, I think this goes far beyond comedy. Anybody that works in this type of industry

where you have a large pool of people that are watching you or looking at you, they, for some reason, don't always want to take the responsibility that comes with that. But if that is your choice, then you have to know that you won't have a very long career. Yeah.

You know? Absolutely. Because, for instance, how much stuff do we watch from back in the day? And we'd be like, ooh, that was a bad joke. You know, but it was like, but we laughed at that, and people like to bring that up. It's like, because that was a different time. Yeah, it's like the gift of hindsight.

Exactly. And it's the fact of like when you know better, you do better. Absolutely. It's just the fact that at that time, we had ignorance and we didn't know better. Yeah, exactly. So that's really what it is. So you can either get hit with the time so you can stay behind. Yeah.

Period. I think, too, that's such a good way of looking at it also because it's like, it's kind of like you can get on the train either way it's leaving. Right. So it costs you nothing in that sense to be aware and just be like, I didn't know at the time, now I do. And I feel like there are plenty, especially someone like yourself too who started on social media, moved in traditional media, especially even back in 2017, like humor and everything was completely different. People's understanding of gender expression and sexuality was completely different at the time than it is now. And you've been able to sustain and grow with as times have evolved and changed in people. I've tried to be more inclusive.

It really costs you nothing. Once you learn, you learn and then you're like, okay, I'm going to be better from now on. I'm going to move better. And like you said, it's a responsibility, I think, that comes with any sort of platform or influence. Unfortunately, when you have eyes on you, you have to be aware of stuff like that. And if you aren't, like you said, it's just a choice at that point.

Like you're choosing to not be, you're choosing to be ignorant at that point. Right, because you're making it about you. Yeah. And not about the brand or the business. Exactly, exactly. You know, you're making it personal. Yeah, that's even the crazier part, too, when people are so openly bigoted and then they're like, I can't believe I lost business opportunity, it's like, I mean, obviously,

even if that brand were to agree with you, they're not going to say that publicly, girl. Get you out of here. Yeah, they don't care about you that much. Like, they sure as hell don't. I think that that's pretty obvious, right? Especially now. And I feel like as long as, like you said, and that's kind of conversation I've had with people, too, It's like the gift of growing up as like a Gen Z person now, like when you're like in your early or late teens is you do know now.

You know so many more things that a lot of us didn't know or weren't aware of back in the day. And that's a great thing. That's a beautiful thing. But to expect that everyone, especially when you watch shows from eons ago, movies from eons ago, you're like, ooh, like you're kind of like, ooh, that made me feel weird. Don't like that. That joke could never exist now. And that's okay. Like the gift of hindsight, right?

Right. Being able to look back and be like, that's okay. We can be better. All that matters is that you learn the lesson. Exactly. Okay, so some of the comments on this video, this one says, not only is it confusing, but it is discriminatory towards the vast majority who are not gender neutral. That's not a thing.

Discriminatory? I'm assuming they mean towards like cis people, cisgendered people. They're like. Because they said them? Yep. Yep. Blocked. Yeah, literally just, okay.

That's ignorant. Yeah, it is. It's purposeful ignorance. And also, the entire world is cis-heteronormative, so you're okay. You're always included. Right. Don't worry about you. And people use them and their everyday vocabulary anyway.

Yeah. Acting like it ain't never been a word before. They act like they made it up all the spot. Also, who gives a shit? If you made too much food, put the damn shit in the refrigerator. Then you got more food for the week. Package it up, girl. Exactly.

You meal prepped. Oh, chad. And this next one says, that's why that's the one thing I refuse to conform to. It literally makes no sense. Once again, like, gender neutral is not a thing. People being non-binary is a thing. But you know what's crazy about people? Like, when they say this, I'm not going to conform to that.

You don't hang out with anyone that's non-binary. You will never have to worry about that problem. Right. Like, you just knowing that they exist miles away from you, it does nothing to it doesn't change you doesn't affect you it's a pride thing you're worried about problems

that you're never going to have girl right it's kind of like men who worry about women who are looking for gold diggers and they have no money right you're worried about a problem you're never going to have girl right you're never going to get gold dug because you have no gold to get shit yeah

it ain't no different than like if I walk into a hospital and I see a doctor but I don't know it's a doctor and I say nurse something you know and the nurse is like no I'm a doctor yeah I'm a call than my doctor because that's what they are. Yeah.

You know? Well, it's the exact same thing as a name. Like if someone tells you this is my name and you're like, you look more like a Gary. Mm-hmm.

But that's not my name. But that's not my name. Yeah. But that's not my name. Exactly. It's just, it's really that simple. And that's another, when people say things like that

when they're like, oh, I refuse to use proper pronouns or whatever. Or they say things like, I refuse to not say racist things or ablest things or what have you, homophobic things, transphobic things. Do you know how often you have to use that kind of offensive language for it to be a chore to retire it?

Right. You're like, this is going to cost me so much. If I stop saying slurs, I'm not going to talk again. Right. It's just like, are you saying them? Like it's going to really break you down. You're saying them that often that it's just like a task to retire it. I just don't understand.

It's silly. I'll never get it. a form of like, revolting, actually. They see like, like this is them fighting against the,

yeah, the cause. It's like, okay, girl, going back to late me is. You know, like, they're like, where does it end?

Like, what about us? What about you, girl? You're included in every conversation. Straight men, straight women, cis men,

cis women. They're constantly in the conversation. Don't worry. Your representation doesn't go anywhere. That's true. You're constantly being represented, I promise.

Mm-hmm. But they don't know no different. No, they really don't. So they can't help it. That's why I said, like, in your little tiny circle girl, you're never going to have a non-binary person ever existing around you. You're okay. You'll be fine.

You'll be okay, I promise. Okay, this next video, this is a video where a woman is walking around a target with a videographer and she's getting mad at all of the pride items on display. She stops a target, employee and ask them where the quote straight section is. The whole story. Yeah, I was going to say the closed section, like the normal closed

section girl. Right. You could go there. What is the big deal? Once again, once again, like, you are still represented. Like, further representation doesn't take from yours. Right. It's just more inclusive. Right. Doesn't mean anything. Doesn't hurt you. No. It's no

different. Like, I ain't got no titties, but I'm not going to be like, why why all these brawls here? Where's the brawls for the flat-chested people. You know, like, I'm not asking that. Where are the bras for people with no boobs? Exactly. I just gop ass. Like, who cares?

I don't know. I always think I'm, that's, I'm too busy with my own life and problems to care about shit like that. Correct. To like worry, to like be up all night. Oh, what about the Pride sections? Right. And if you're so concerned about a rainbow, I don't know what you do when it rang.

You, I know, your ass be standing in the wind cursing at the sky. Does that big ass rainbow be sitting there and you'll be mad as hell? You'll be sitting there like, look at this gay-ass sky. Look at this gay-ass sky. Somebody get rid of this gay-ass guy. Where's the straight sky?

Okay, where's the straight sky? Where's the sky for the straight people? Okay. Where is it? Bring it here. I'm like, that's unemployed behavior, babe. Okay. I'm too busy.

Too busy. Too busy. Too busy. Too busy. too busy working. I don't have patience for that. I was like, some of you need to get a job, for real. This comment says, just like with, I'm assuming they mean Bud Light, they can completely change,

and I still will never go back, haven't been there in years, don't plan on changing that. So where the hell they shopping? Well, the Bud Light thing just happened. Yes. What do you mean years? What do you mean years, girl? Yeah. Dylan just worked with Bud Light, like, this year.

Mm-hmm. So. If you've been boycotting Bud Light. I'm assuming it's for a different reason. Maybe it's because it tastes like shit. Maybe that's what you should boycott. See, I don't drink beer no way. So I wouldn't even have an issue.

Yeah. Even when I do drink beer, I sure as hell don't drink Bud Light. And that's just because it tastes like piss. But that's just my personal preference. That's crazy. My personal preference isn't them being inclusive enough to include a trans woman. It's the fact that it tastes like shit. That's me personally.

Well, that's white people culture. Bud Light. So it's not my culture, not my culture. Got it. But I mean, all the cases. just weren't, didn't have rainbows on them, right? No, it was just, it, they never even had anything pride related. It was just Dylan.

Yeah, it was just Dylan. Silly, silly, silly goose. I was like, again, like, I'm like, if, if a girl drinking beer on Instagram makes you that mad, like, you're going to have a hard life. You're going to have a really hard life, girl. Like, if it makes, if it gets your panties that wadded up. Oh, people do have, have you been on Facebook? The stuff that people be complaining. about and upset.

I'm like, y'all don't have nothing better to do. I'm saying. Like, is it that deep? Is it ever that deep? Oh my gosh. That was me doing the whole, you know, like when Hallie was Ariel, all that. Oh, girl.

I was like, oh, my gosh. Shut up. Just go watch the original. Who cares? They're like, what about the what? What about her being a redhead? She still exists. She could go back and watch it.

Stay in school kids. That's why I'm even. blame George Bush. I blame no child left behind because some of these motherfuckers should have been left behind. And that's the truth. For real.

And that's tea, bitch. They should have been left behind because they are dumb as bricks. That's really what it is, honestly. I read stuff and I'm like, this only made sense to your dumb ass, you and like your five illiterate family members.

Because y'all ain't nothing going on up in here. It's just, Space, honey. Yeah, you knock on the forehead. It sounds like an empty closet. A hollow wall. For real.

My God, today. Nothing up there but drywall girl. Okay. Even, yeah, with the aerial thing, I was like, once again, there's not enough things going on in the world. We've got to be reporting on this. And, like, and what was she, and you know what's even crazier? I'm like, what would be more, I think, outrageous would be if they cast someone who couldn't sing?

And that bitch can sing. Okay. That bitch can sing. What the hell? Those should be the only requirement. For real. I'm like literally just, she looked. First of all, I met her at the Oscars.

She is a Disney princess in real life. Like, actually, like, personified in real life. Like, she is. Wait, you was there for the Will Smith Slat? Oh, no, girl, that was last year. Oh, okay. I was there this year. Oh, okay.

Yeah, no, that would be. What was this year? This year was... That wasn't this year? No, that was last year. I can't tell time. I get lost. No, that was literally last year.

I know. I went. this year. I did, me like trying to get the tea on it. I was like, so, like, how was it? They just, they just said it was crazy. So what happened? They just said it was crazy. But I met her this year because obviously, like, with the little mermaid

coming out and everything, she was doing a whole press thing. But she, like, floats on a little cloud. She is a little fairy in real life. She is gorgeous and sweet and so... I remember when they were opening for the Formation World Tour. You know, like, early, early. girl one yeah no I think they both have created careers that are just beautiful far and beyond

yeah Beyonce's never wrong nope her sense her sense her mind her mind works differently she gets it yeah she gets it okay this next comment says they seem to forget the issue wasn't pride clothing or items it was children pride items leave kids out of sexuality pride talk slash images once again they didn't make anything for kids that was in It was like a shirt that has a rainbow. It says pride. I don't think anything is wrong with that. When I was a kid and I walked through a store and if I ever saw a rainbow on

apparel, I said, that's a nice rainbow. And that's all the fuck I knew. They don't know. And you know what's crazy is the truth of it is like the reason why they like they hide it behind homophobia. They hide it behind this smokescreen of like caring about kids is because they sexualize gay people, and that's you, girl. That's a you thing.

Kids don't know anything about that. And they only know because of your opposition to this. Exactly. And you talking about it in a sexual, graphic way, that is the only way they know that. Because if you tell a child, like, if someone has two dads, for example, and you tell a child, like, oh, he has two dads. And they're like, why? Well, that's just how some families are.

Okay. That's where it ends. Like, they literally know nothing else. They're like, okay. Right. And then they go back to like. Good to know. They go back to picking their butt

and going and pushing other kids. That's like what they do. I mean, anytime you see it in a movie or anything, it's always anytime that kind of even like a bullying situation happens, it's always a kid being like, well, my mommy, daddy told me that they're supposed to be just one woman and one man. Exactly. It's because it's tall.

It's literally taught. It's tall and it's not that big of a deal. And the thing about that, the thing that's so stupid to me when it comes to racism and bigotry and all of it, It's like gay people aren't going to just go away. Black people aren't going to go away. Exactly.

This is going to exist until the end of time. So I don't see the point of your opposition. Yeah, consistently. As if it's just going to disappear one day. It's not. Girl. It's not. No way.

Some of y'all are in relationships with closeted gay people. And that's the tea, is there. Okay? It's in your house. It's in your home. They're sleeping next to, girl. Okay? Mm-hmm.

Every night. So be for real. Let it go. Haven't we seen enough stories like that? Okay. Absolutely. Maybe if you was a little more welcoming, you wouldn't be in that situation. Okay.

You know what? That's karma. Listen. If my man woke up one day and was like, I think I want to be a woman or I want to be with a woman, I'm like, go do you, baby. Yeah, you do what you got to do. I want you to be happy. Absolutely. It ain't got shit to do with me.

And I'm going to keep pushing. Okay. I'm going to keep a pushing. And I think, too, like, that's. It's karma. If you believe in nothing else, believe in karma ho. Amen. It always comes back. She always comes back. Okay, this next one says, everyone's showing their true colors. Taylor Swift, Sam Smith, major corporate politicians, everything comes to light, turn away from the world. What? What do hell that mean? Is that a riddle? What is it? I think she's talking about. What Taylor do?

I know. And Sam Smith. Right. I think it's just like how dare they show me people that I don't think have a right to exist kind of thing. But I don't know what Taylor said does do. She's a straight white woman. Like, that's your guys' tea, isn't it? Yeah.

I only know about the jet plane issue. Jet plane. Yeah, about her taking a private jet and it being like having the most emissions or something like that. And it was like this big old controversy thing. A lot of famous people have that problem, I feel. Yeah. They fly. You know what's even crazier tea?

One time I was going to, I was supposed to go on a brand trip. This is just whatever. I was supposed to go on a brand trip with a brand. I genuinely truly love. And for some reason, the universe, God did not want me to go on that trip, girl. Okay. I have never, I never miss flights. I'm never late to them.

For some reason, we like, oh no, girl, I missed my first one. Slept in a hotel overnight, was going to fly again. Missed that one too, for some odd reason. Went home, came back, missed them. Oh, it's a sign. And I said, I'm going home, girl. Yep. No way.

Go home. I'm not getting lost in the Bermuda Triangle. No. Nope. God wants me to go home. You ever seen that show Manifest? Yeah. It's going to be you.

Yeah. I was like, God said, I swear to God if you get on that plane. So I took a hint and I went home. Good. But the last time, right, the last flight I tried to get on, they actually put me in this completely different check-in. It's like, it's an airport next to the airport. Uh-huh.

And then they, I've never done that before. They told me the true T. That's like where all the famous people fly. Uh-huh. Because it's... This is L.A.? Yeah. It's right next L.A.X.

Is it, it next to L.A.X? Yeah, it's like right next. You go past the exit off to get to, like, go on to L.A.X. You go past it. And then there's another little airport right there. Gotcha. I've done jet sweet X. Ooh.

And that's how, like, you can fly to L.A. to Vegas on, like, a semi-private jet. Oh, I see. Yeah. No, it was like, it's just another. Yeah, it's a private terminal. entirely, but I was still going to get on a regular plane. But I had never, I've never been in some shit like that.

I said, famous people, they're on some other shit, bitch. Oh, but it's a pretty penny for it. It is, and I didn't pay for it, so I ruined it. And I didn't even get on the flight. One time, Jason Moa was right behind me on a flight. Oh, period. And they drove him up to the plane and got

him on, and then when we landed, somebody was at the door waiting to take him off the plane to put him back in the car and to drive him. That's So funny, flying here to New York, there was a girl from Riverdale. I forget her name. Madeline? Yes.

I think she was on my flight. The only reason I know that is because when we got off, there was someone waiting right there for her at the thing and took her down the stairs onto the tarmac. And I was like, well, I've never seen anything like that before. Now, if you do want that treatment, if you got medallion status with Delta, they would do that if you run in late for like a layover. So there was one time I had like a really tight connection. and I was platinum medallion then, but I'm diamond now. But I got off the plane. And the lady was standing with my name.

I said, that's me, girl. Next year I knew, honey, we was in the car. I said, oh, this is service, girl. This is customer service. No, for real. Baby, she drove my ass straight up to that plane. And I got on that, I said, yes, baby, yes, honey. I ain't went through no airplane.

Girl, that's like how that little private terminal thing was. I had never, they take you, like, you go in and you get out, and they come and take all your bags, they tag them for you right there. You go in a little bar area. You sit down all the food and drinks free. Now I will say, I do take the helicopter in New York. Ooh, tea.

Because sometimes if I'm, if I have a shoot or I have something to do and I don't have an hour to sit in traffic. Yeah, girl. Honey, you can find me on the helicopter. And going two miles here takes you an hour. Yes, seven minutes. We'd be in the air. Damn.

Yeah. Yeah, and that's the kind of shit that, like, really blows my mind doing this for living because I had never, they live a whole other life. So when people get mad at them for shit like that, I'm like, girl, you should see how they live. Like, they don't even know. Like, they have no idea how normal people live anymore. Yeah. I didn't even know when you fly like any sort of like Delta One or anything. I didn't even know that you could go in the sky in the lounge.

Really? The first, like, year I was flying all the time and I was, if I flew Delta One, I literally was, I was sitting in the regular terminal with everybody else. So I was like, oh, so you've been through the private one in LA, right? The new entrance? Yes, girl. Oh, now that's real luxury. Baby, you don't even go upstairs. You know what I will say? You could tell we don't come for money because it still blows my mind.

Oh, yes. It's the bottom floor. You walk in. It's a private security check in. Your own TSA. Yes, on TSA and it takes you straight to the lounge. And I said that alone is worth the ticket. The TSA alone is worth the ticket. Because I don't have pre-check or anything like that.

Oh, see, I do. I got a global entry. I got pre-check. I need all of that in home. And honey, because, you know, what's so crazy is that flying in L.A. because it's usually worked, so it's always Delta 1. Yeah. You know, they got a new terminal for Delta A. L.A.

I don't even know what the regular terminal look like. I ain't ever been in it. I'm just being the Delta 1 section. Well, I do because I was sitting in it because I was like, the new one's nice. I will say the old one is not bad at all. The only thing that is awful is those God-forsiggin bathrooms, girl. I don't know what they feed you on those.

Delta flights girl, but that in the regular Delta terminal, those bathrooms, Satan has gone in there. Only Satan has used those toilets. I'd be in the lounge taking showers. When I was there for Beyonce, oh, I took a shower. Oh, yeah. I loved it. I know how, because you come straight from the concert, you go straight to the airport. So nice.

You just get ready to air and keep it pushing. Girl, I was like, that's how you know we don't come from money. Because even every time I go, I'm like, this is nice. But to that point, that's why I take advantage of every luxury. Same. You know, I'm like, honey, I didn't have none of this. You think I'm going to say no, just so I can appear humble. That.

I don't work too goddamn hard. I'm going to take this motherfuck up the sky club lounge. And that's tea, honestly. Okay. You know, and you know what's funny, too, is even before I started doing this, like, I constantly got put in a middle seat. I don't know why. My big ass should never be in a middle seat, but I always was.

And so I've done my do-dudel. You know what girl. I did, girl. You're going to lay on that motherfucker seat. You're going to recline that hope. Girl. Especially if you get on a lucky one that you can put the massage button on. Mine's always broken.

Yeah, same. Same. Child, yes. Even when I flew, when I used to fly back and forth from college because I went to school in Hawaii. Oh, okay. So when I would fly to and from home, like for a while, I was flying standby. You were flying standby, girl. No, I ain't ever done that.

Girl. It's rough. I got a flight to L.A. In a couple weeks, and they booked me in Delta Comfort Plus, and I'm just praying that I get upgraded. Because I was like, I'm not paying $1,000 to be a Delta water.

I was like, please, Lord. Even with a flying standby, I was like, you want to play Russian roulette with a flight bitch, you fly standby. And it's because it's cheaper, which I totally get. But the way that I would be like, please, please, please, please.

Yeah, and then sometimes I'd get stranded in the most random places. Like, I was stranded in Arizona once. I think one time I was turned it in Florida, like in Orlando. Oh, I would have went to Disney World. I'd be like, that's fine. I'll catch out the Magic Kingdom. I know. But I think, you know what I love, though. What I absolutely love about you and your platform is that you have remained the same exact, like, funny, relatable person that you were from the very beginning until now. So I'm really, really happy that you have, like, all the success that you do.

If you were going to give advice to anyone who's maybe looking to pursue either form of media, whether it's traditional or social, what would you say is your best piece of advice if they're looking to pursue a career in it at all? And if so, like, how do you connect them? How do you transition to the next? What have you? I would always tell people that if you want anything, you have to be able to sacrifice anything. Period. This industry is not easy.

Mm-hmm. And it is hard. And you have to be a fighter. You have to have thick skin. You have to be willing to work 24-7. Yeah. There is no off. Yeah, literally at all, yeah.

And if it's what you want, then anything is possible. Period. But if you want to be lazy and you don't want to put into work, then it's not going to happen. Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you so much, Kaelin, for coming. on the show, you're amazing, and I'm so, so happy that you're continuing your long, illustrious

career. Where can everybody find you? You know, I make it very easy is just the Kailen Allen everywhere. Period. Love that. And do you have anything you'd like to promote coming up? Well, we're on strike, so I can't promote shit. Okay, there you go. Okay, well, hopefully,

strike end soon. Hopefully. That's what we're hoping for. Fingers crossed. Bitch better have my money. Yeah, exactly. but in the meantime, make sure all of you can follow Kaylin Allen on literally everything, as you heard, the Kalen Allen on everything. He's amazing and hilarious and so incredibly talented.

So thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you, darling. I adore you. You're amazing. And thank you all for joining us on this episode of the comment section show. Don't forget new episodes drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video lives exclusively and for free on Spotify because that's our fave and everybody knows that.

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