The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - KEEP HATING, IT BOOSTS MY ENGAGEMENT! Ft. Tess Holliday | Drew Afualo | THE COMMENT SECTION EP 68

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

[video available on Spotify] This week, Drew is joined by Tess Holliday to talk all things being a successful model in today's climate and why accurate representation in the beauty industry is so important. They discuss the media's fetishization of minorities and plus-sized women, why Piers Morgan keeps asking Tess to come on his show for an interview, their hot takes on jalapeno poppers, Drew getting hate from men while she interviewed their idol on TV, and so much more! Drew: https://linktr.ee/drewafualoTess: IG / TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You watched 45 minutes of that just so that you could tell me I was a fat buffalo bitch. A win is a win, I'll take it. You know what that does? It makes me look good to Warner Brothers because I got the stats up. A hundred percent. 100 percent. Yeah. Yeah, I love it.

Win is a win? A fat buffalo bitch in first class interviewing her idols. Interviewing her idol. Yeah. Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of the Common Section show starring me, your favorite. Everybody knows me. the men hate me period we all know that on to the best part of the each episode is my very special guest for today which is the one and only the iconic the ledge test holiday

happy to have you I was going to do an air horn with my mouth and I stopped you should have done it well now I feel I do it to my kids but it's maybe okay I go brumbra brabber I love that I'm a troll hi that's literally the best way to introduce you that's how I feel Thank you. I'm so excited to have you. I'm so excited. I was just saying earlier, I feel like you're proud mom. I know.

My second mom. I could never replace her, even though I heard we're the same height. You are. You're exactly the same height. I've been taller than my mom since I was 14. So there you go. I've been shorter than everybody. Forever.

Tess has known me online forever. Like ground floor. Yeah. I've watched you blossom into a man-hating angel that you are. There you go. Tessie, some people say that they're like, oh, she's just doing this now because it's for clout, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I've been like this on the internet for a long time. Before I had an audience, so I was doing that.

Tess can vouch for me. I also love that you did so many of them from the toilet. Yes. You know what's funny? A fun fact about that is like I was living with my boyfriend's parents. We were living in their house at the time because it was like right before the pandemic too. So we were living in there. And so like that was like the only place I could go where like no, I thought no one could hear me.

Turns out they could hear me the entire time. I guess the walls are not as thick as I thought they were. Sometimes I would just sit in my car for hours and film videos. I love that. And then my boyfriend would be like, he would go in the house and they'd be like, where's Drew? And he's like, I think she's on the phone or something because he knew I was filming the videos. But that's commitment. That's commitment.

You also have a Jeep, don't you? Aren't we Jeep twins? Did you get a new car? I did get a new car. But the Jeep is actually my boyfriend's. But he has a new car too. But we still have the Jeep. She's got new car money, y'all.

Keep hating her. Listen, I'm not going to stop. You want to buy me a second car? You let me know, you know what I mean? That's the story of your life too. Yeah. Your career is running, longstanding. I'm old as shit.

Yeah. I've been doing it a long time. No, you've just been that girl for that long. Yeah, I've been hated on the internet for so long. Still proudly hated on the internet. But it's funny. My career has evolved to a really, a really interesting place now where I think for the first time in my life I have peace. Oh, I love that.

Yeah, thanks. And I think for a long time, it was really hard having so many people shit on me while I was, like, trying to thrive. So it's nice that, you know, people can shit on me now and I care less. And you're like, money. Yeah, I just, everyone's like, how do you deal with people being mean to you? And I'm like, I check my bank account. Story of my life, bitch. I've said that exact sentence multiple times.

It's really not that hard when, you know, I look at how much I make. So I'm like, oh. And it's just funny because people are so stupid. Like when people comment under my things and they're so mean, I encourage it. Because like you've said it all the time and I've said it for so long. You just boost my engagement. Yeah. So like keep calling me a fat bitch, please.

Well, and it's also like, it's so tired and boring. Yes. It's like, that's why I always say like if they. say that to me and then you go okay yeah now what like what do we do now and and okay yeah yes and you just improv yes and yes and I also love the people call you a bully because I also have been called a bully for so long but I'm like babes first of all they're being mean to me I'm standing up for myself the math is not mathing yeah it truly isn't it turns out they're okay with bullying as long as they're not being bullied.

Yes. They're okay with that. And it's funny because whenever men like to create what they think is this like think piece when they're like, this is what I think about her. And it's just calling me a bully or whatever. I've always said like, I never said I was against being mean. I never said I was not going to make fun of you. I've never said that I was nice.

Yeah. Or like welcoming to an asshole. I've never said that. As somebody that's here, you're not welcoming at all. Not at all. Nobody. J.K. I know they're going to be like, see, that's roof.

Like the way they just, they chop everything up and they're like, that's, they do. It's like, I have said all the time, like, you guys are super cool with being mean. You just don't like when you're on the receiving end of it. Yeah. And they've done it. You're probably one of the very few people that really gets what it feels like to have the amount of hate. And yours has been a lot longer than mine. Oh, yeah.

It's been, it's, it's been like, uh, two. prolific people that love to hate me as Pierce Morgan and Joe Rogan. So they just like love to keep my name in their mouth. God, the two worst people on planet Earth. And their fans are just as worse. So then recently

Pierce Morgan wanted to have me on again and interview me and they're like, we'll offer you $6,000 and my manager's like, unless it's like, six million figures, she's not going on. But I'm like, you know. $6,000? $6,000?

to have to look at Pierce Morgan. No thank you. Absolutely not. No. I've said that too when people are like, why don't you invite people on your show that you disagree with? Why would I do that? Literally why?

It's funny because nothing makes them more mad than just being like, no. Yeah. And then they say why, because I don't want to. The end. That's a full sentence, but. And also, men are so unsafe and so, cuckoo, that, like, I don't, why would I put my life in literal danger? No, actually, though.

Why? For what? So you can come here and their feet can also hang off the chair like yours? No, thanks. I hope you guys zoom in on my feet, because that's exactly what it's going to be like, short kings. Short kings. I've said before, you can be short, but you cannot be short and terrible. You got to pick one.

Yeah. It's in the Constitution. Yeah. Don't you guys love that piece of paper? I love it. I picked short. Or the Bible, whichever one you pick. Yeah.

Yeah, see, you picked one, pick short. That's what I'm saying. Like, you just simply cannot be both. No. I think that's like the law physics, honestly. I should tell my ex that. You should. Yeah.

You absolutely should. I'll be right back. I think that it's like, it's one of those things too where they are just so comfortable with being awful. And then the one time you are awful back, they're like, well, yeah. Why would you do that to me? But that's why I appreciated you. When I first found you, I mean, it was your maniacal laugh, obviously, that I fell in love with, like everybody else. But it was your, I mean, your delivery, your sarcasm, your sense of humor was very like something.

I'm not comparing because as if I'm not as funny as you. But I love like roasting people and I've done it for so long because it's the way that sometimes I can deal with it. but also I just like want people to feel as stupid as they sound. Yeah, absolutely. And you just really came along and swept everybody up and, you know, you just owned everybody and I love it. I love watching it. Thank you.

And I've been obsessed with Tess for so long. I've been a fan of you for so long that like you were like probably one of the first people I've ever saw in the modeling industry that like did not look like everybody else. And that was like I think what really, like blasted you all over the world because people love to talk about people that don't look like them. Yeah. As if they're the only people who exist in the world ever, which is the most asinine way of thinking.

Yeah. You didn't know there weren't any fat people. I was actually the first fat person ever. You just woke up one day. Yeah. You just like materialized in the air. Yeah. I just ate too many little Debbie's, passed out in my bed, woke up and I was fat.

I've lost them overnight. And I actually, because of me being fat, I made every day. everybody else fat that okay that argument like enrages me to the point where my ass itches like it's so yeah when the way that they're like oh you're just you're in influencing promoting obesity promoting obesity i'm like yeah i always ask them are you a doctor have you gone to medical school yeah yeah are you test his doctor yeah well let's know i'll just use my eyes i'm like your eyes yeah okay so well the medical school who needs that you're like just the same eyes that picked that outfit out and got that bad fade.

There you go. Same eyes. No. That's crazy. I was invited to be on the doctors one time the TV show. Yeah. And it was during like, I mean, I was, I was everywhere at this point. It was right after my Cosmo cover.

So people were just like, you know, talking about me more so than ever. And I said no, but they came back and said that they would consider having me on if I gave them my blood work. like copies of my blood work What? I know and I just remember thinking like What? Like first of all my blood work is great But even if it wasn't like You what about HIPAA?

That's a very good point Yeah hello she's smart y'all But yeah I just thought like Show me your medical history Before I came on Because they couldn't believe When I'm like you know You're talking about my perceived health

and you can't tell if someone is, quote, unquote, healthy by looking at them, but also health isn't a moral mandate. Why would I have to, like, prove that to come on your show? Also, why are we talking about my health? Why aren't we talking about the fact that I was the first person to be on cosmopolitan that looked the way that I did? Exactly. That's weird. What the fuck? Yeah.

The way that makes me angry. Yeah. That makes that. I've actually think I've been on that show. On the doctors? Was it the two? It's the old white dude and the other dude? They're all white.

I think, yes. Oh, okay, then I haven't been on that. I don't know. I don't really like, no, pay your attention. No, but it plays during Judge Judy, so only old people who watch that. I love Judge Judy. Do you? So much.

It plays during, like, Judge Brown and all that, you know what I mean? Like, that's, like, daytime programming. They got bigger problems. You would, you would be great at a, I just had a lightbow moment. You would be great at having your own, like, court house show. Oh, my God, yeah. Where you would like. No experience necessary.

I don't need it. I'm just going to look at the show. No experience necessary. As soon as they walk in, I'm going to be like, you're guilty. Guilty and then just leave. Your face. I just don't like it. Yeah.

And that's it. Yeah. I'm judging base up looks. Because I'm such a body shamer. You are, you are. I forgot about that. I'm such a body shamer. I know.

She called me fat in the back there. Yeah, like fat like P-H-A-T. Like the coolest, the coolest bitch in the world. I would never. But I always say too, because they call me a fat bitch all the time. And I always say that's not an insult to me. So got anything else? Yeah.

You also could be a plus-size model because of your height and your thick-ass body. So we love that. Period. We love that. Don't make me get in my bag again, bitch. You honestly could because you're Gorgina and you're tall and you're thick. It's giving Meg the stallion. Oh, period.

Don't tell them. They're going to get so mad about that. But you hate all women, so it's all right. Don't worry about it. I think to, like, with the way that they perceive women in general, let alone women's health. I just always say like I think it's crazy that you like act like you care about health when you don't talk about bodybuilders. Like the extreme lengths that they push their bodies to. That's on the like other end of this like health spectrum that you're creating in your head.

They literally die all the time from pushing themselves too hard and not eating and all of that. So that's unhealthy. But you never really seem to talk about them. That's what I love. And I've seen you do videos about that, which I really appreciate. appreciate, but when Joe Rogan, one of the many times that he mentioned that I was unhealthy or whatever, I don't listen to any of them, but it pops up in my Google alerts, we love. And I just think, like, is this coming from a bald, like, a bald man who became, is he 5,5? Yeah, it's like 5, 5.5.

Of course he is. Of course he is. Who literally became famous from forcing people to eat roaches and you do hell of steroids. So like, but I'm the unhealthy one, that's, that doesn't make sense. Yeah. Oh, it does. If it wasn't already, it is now. I love pickles, but not.

Like a cornish. Was that what they're called? What are they called? What are those little pickles called cornish? A gherkin. A gherkin. I love a gherkin. A sharkry board?

Yeah. I would love, I need to make your charcuttery board. Do you, are you good at them? I'm really good at them. Before they were like, you know. Super popular. No, yeah, but no, I don't make it a sharkoery board. I love the way I will fuck up a sharkoery board.

I turned my whole kitchen counter into a giant charcutory board for my like Galentine's party I did this year. And it's huge. It's like an island. Oh, I love that. But yeah, it was so much fun. Oh, my God. Okay, well, can't take it back.

You guys saw it. Can't take it back. I would not. I don't mess with food. Clearly. You and me both. Okay, so we're going to talk about our topic today. So our topic is being a successful model.

and basically representation in the industry as a whole, and how beauty standards have been around forever, but they're extremely harmful. And how they're, although there is progress, there's still a lot more to be achieved. But we have made moves. We're just inching along, unfortunately.

But Tess is obviously someone who is like, one of the first people to, like, really start pushing for representation in the industry. So, like, how does it feel to, like, be one of the first, to, like, be on the cover, to be in the news, to be on carpets, to all that stuff. Yeah, I mean, I, it was a little isolating at first, just because there were other people that had done it,

but not necessarily that looked like me, right? That weren't, you know, a short little nugget covered in tattoos and also loud. I've been, I've been very vocal online for a very long time about injustices that I feel like a lot of people don't talk about. And so those things kind of mixed together. I've always had, you know, like a little target on me. And it, and I'm very mindful of it. So sometimes I would go into these spaces that I very much belonged in, but I would feel like imposter syndrome almost. So it's really nice that we live in the world of Lizzo now where people actually give us our credit.

and I feel more appreciated now and I feel able to enjoy my career now than I have been. Yeah. Like I remember like right after I wrote my book, I was like traveling all over doing all these press and I was so worn out and I felt like no one really gave a shit and nobody cared but they did. But it was just like I think all of the pressure weighing on me because I, didn't want to let people down. I wanted to be like a good,

you wanted to be like good representation and like a solid voice for people that you feel like aren't being heard. And when you are trying to do that and you have like outside voices being critical all the time, it gets heavy. It gets, yeah, it's tough. But it's, I, when I look back and think about my work

and what I've done and what I continue to do, I feel immensely grateful because if I die in three years like the internet says, I've achieved literally so much. More than them, which is we'll ever see, ever in a million years. Their wildest imagination could never have conceived what you've achieved. And you're still so young.

Like for as long as you've been in the industry and been successful, you're still so young. I am. I think that's, I get what you mean, though, about it getting heavy because you almost feel like your carrying a torch but at the same time it gets isolating and lonely like you said like being the first or being one of the first like to really be out there doing it i feel that too because that's kind of the

same thing as me i'm not the first person to make fun of dudes i've said that before but i'm like the first like someone girl to like really build a platform like this and it's like purely based off pissing off men which is like you know my favorite thing in the world right you and me both when it's like one of those things where it gets heavy and then I don't know if you I'm sure you have so many stories but I have like so many stories too of like people like almost like telling me how much my content has helped them has like saved them has inspired them and that's like I tell them all the time like that's what keeps me going 100% in moments like that when I'm like god I'm so tired of like the only thing that I get exhausted of dealing with is like every like three

to six months a new white guy will find me and they'll be like, this is why I think she should be canceled. And they do like a 12-part series on me. And then everyone's like, hey, go, finally someone's saying it. As if like 17 other white dudes haven't done that right before you. Like, you're not special. And I hate having to hear like, how fighting fire with fire and the whole world burns.

I'm so sick of hearing that shit. I'm so sick of it. I'm so sick of it. Well, it's kind of funny because white men have literally been burning down the world since the beginning of time. And they continue to do. do so. They continue to do so. They are literally doing it currently. As we speak, they're doing it. Yeah, literally. So feels like you should kind of be mad at yourself, babes. Yeah.

Okay. No, genuinely. And the like after like you said, you've you've like clapped back at people too. And like afterwards, the way they like immediately bitch out and they're like, why would you do this to me? Yeah. You have a platform and I don't. And that's bullying. All of a sudden. Yeah. All of a sudden you're against bullying. All of a sudden. I think it's because they really think that it's just going to go differently for them. Yeah. You did a video recently that I don't know. It had me crying, but you said something like, well, I wasn't going to do it, but you asked for this. Like you, yeah, I'm here because, yeah, you did it to yourself.

Yeah. And yeah, I love that because they did. But this is literally why, like, I do what I do, like you said, for other people, for people that never really felt like they had. a voice or felt like they couldn't exist in the world the way that they do. And I would do it all over again and keep doing it if I knew that I was going to be able to have a fraction of the impact that I've been able to have. So, you know, it's worth it, but it's tough. It's part of it. It's fun. You and are built different. I'll tell you that much. The way you and I are built so different. It's like some people ask me, do people ask you? How do you? How do you?

how do you deal with hate? Yeah, I thought when you said Bill different, I thought it was a short joke. Oh no. I mean like, like mentally. Do people ask me how I do it? Why are you saying you have a hard time?

No, I'm saying they ask me all the time, how do I deal with hate? Because they struggle with dealing with hate online. And I was like, I just like don't care. Yeah, and I think people probably, I'm very sensitive.

Cancer. Because I'm like, yes, I'm cancer. I'm very, I do care. And I probably will. always care and yeah and I almost sometimes feel sorry for people yeah um because I'm like you clearly weren't hugged enough as a child and that's not my fault no it truly is um but people don't realize that there's so many issues in society that are because of toxic masculinity and because of men's fragile ego and how we have trained them to behave and act in society and to not give a shit

about anybody so therefore you set up a dynamic in a culture where nobody gives a shit about each other. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, I don't know. I don't know why I care too much. I wish I cared less like you. Well, I'm my cancer moon. Oh yeah. So like I do I do care but only there's a big asterisk next

to it. What's your rising? Sagittarius. Okay. That's my fire. Yeah. I'm a Scorpio rising. Oh, love. We'll see. That's what people say because people always think I'm a fire sign. Yeah. Which I It's in my big three, but I'm a Virgo. Yeah. Period.

Well, we all know you're a Virgo. Because you get shit done. And I eventually get shit done, but like it takes a while. But that's why when I see maybe like more when you post things, I'll like, I know that I'm that person that's like sending you like the, I send you like the saffiest like messages or like little voice notes. Just like cheering you on or reminding you or when you were saying people do the deep dives into your personal life that there's like a whole Reddit threads dedicated to why Tess Holiday is a horrible

person I think that's the title of one of them and you know I don't know I just feel like um it's a waste of time because I'm gonna be horrible for a long time I no matter what I say yeah like I've I've done videos like more recently where I'm like you know some people have attacked me unprovoked and then I'm like all right I'm gonna talk to you real plain and simple no jokes no insults, no nothing, and let's see if you listen. Yeah. Shocker, they don't. It doesn't work, bitch.

When they're like, why don't you try that? It doesn't work. Like, it doesn't work. Like, that's why I've always said, my goal is not to change you. It's to embarrass you. It's to humiliate you beyond belief. It's to literally make you want to delete your TikTok. That's my goal.

And it's worked. And it works. And it works. And turns out there's money in that hoe. Yeah. And I also love how they're always like, oh, I bet you don't have a boyfriend. I bet he's ugly.

Or I bet he's ashamed and you're wrong on all those. And I've said too, I said recently actually when I showed him. And sometimes I've said this on the show before, I think. But like when I make videos about him, that's a dunk for me. Yeah. When it comes to views, nobody clocks views like a hot ass dude who loves a bitch like me. Yes. So when I make those, that's because it clocks the views.

Yes, 100%. Yeah, that's me. That's called content farming. You know what I mean? I literally wait. Like, I wait for people to say terrible shit. I'm like, oh. But I always know there's like, you'll do a video like every couple months with Billy.

And I love it, you know, and then 20 million views later or whatever, you know. He always tells me he's like, did you make a video about me? I go, why? And he goes, because I just got like 5,000 followers on Instagram. You're welcome. You're welcome. A bunch of weirdos. Yeah, I always think it's strange.

Why would you want to follow the person you love his boyfriend? But I don't know. whatever. I don't know. I mean, I love him. I don't even follow him because I think it's weird. I'm going to tell him. But I support him from afar. But I also can never. I think it's like, I think it also too, it's a lot of dudes who like go and be like, hey man, like, I feel bad for you. What does he do though when people, does it ever bother him when people like are mean to you? Like, does it ever, is he sensitive? Yeah, he, I think he's used to it now. Yeah. He did hate it for a long time. But I'm, but, you know, for obvious reasons because he loves me.

Unlike most of you, you don't have someone who loves you. But he's used to it now. I think now he's just kind of like, he just gets annoyed kind of like me. He's just annoyed about it. And then he'll let me know. He'll like tell me about it if he sees stuff. And then sometimes he'll send me videos that he finds. And he's like, you should do this one next.

I love that. And he tells me to be mean to you all the time. So does my dad, you stupid bitch. Because they're like, my dad's the best guy in the world. I was like, my dad's the best guy in the world. That's why I'm like this. I was going to say that's exactly why you're like this.

Because you all are hot, wet garbage next to my dad and my boyfriend. And my brother. And that's, my dad wasn't the best until recently. So that's probably why I care too much. So now we know. There you go. I figured it out. Look, let's therapyizing ourselves.

Okay, let's get into these videos. So for those of you who don't know here on the comments section, we bring videos that are applicable to our topic today. And we break them down, Kiki, laugh about them, all the fun stuff. So this first video, we just do little summaries, is this guy's video explains a situation where media personality, Jordan Peterson, tweeted this response to a plus size model on the cover of Sports Illustrated magazine. I think I know the video. He wrote, is that old? It's the most recent one.

Oh, okay. Yeah, issue of Sports Illustrated. I feel like I've seen it. Yeah. And he wrote, sorry, not beautiful and no amount of authoritarian tolerance. is going to change that. First of all, Jordan Peterson is one of like, if it was like him, Pierce Morgan and Joe Rogan, three horsemen of the apocalypse. You know what I'm saying? Like bringing the end of the world. But also like do you, are you just using a bunch of words that sound big together?

I was just what is that even mean? He's known for doing that. And I'm real smart. I look like a dumb bitch. You and me both. I was going to say about Reddit threads. My Twitter threat, my Twitter header is literally a Reddit thread. And the title of it was, that stupid bitch on TikTok named Drew Off Wallow. I literally cropped it and I was like, Twitter header. You were like, put this on my tombstone. Yeah, literally. Honestly. Yeah, I love that.

A stupid bitch, but a bad bitch. Yeah. 100%. I know, but yeah, they just love putting a bunch of things together that don't make sense. But also, she's on the cover of Sports Illustrated. And you're on. Yeah. So, probably single.

Yeah, that's how they're like, this is an illness that's spreading like promoting obesity or whatever. And then I'm like, you're at home talking about her and she's like traveling the world and like making a lot of money and like being beautiful. That's the real illness. Yeah. Obsessing over her. That's an illness. But also are you just mad because you want to her? Like I told Pierce Morgan one time like it's really giving like you're so mean to me. I feel like you have a crush on me. And I feel like you like low key. Do you want to f***? Do you like me or something? Yeah, I feel like you're trying to fuck. It's. It's weird because it is.

A lot of times, too, that's a big thing, especially when it comes to how they attack any women that's outside of the gender binary. So trans women in general, fat women, right? Any woman that does not look like a cisgender white thin woman, they're like, they almost like hate themselves because they feel little some, some. Yeah. Some of them may genuinely just hate fat people, but you have to unpack why. Because a lot of times I think, too, especially like Jimbrough culture, ooh, the general. Jimbrose. Ooh, they hate me.

But when I'm on dating apps, which is never because they're trash. Yeah. That's who I match with. Jim Bros. It's Jimbrose. That's my point. Jimbros are always like all over me and yeah. Well, that's why the gym bro is like.

And clearly you. Yeah. They really hate me. I revisit them just to make sure they don't get too comfortable. I'll come back every few weeks and I kick that Hornets nest and I say, I'll be back. I'll be back for my quarterly check-in. Don't get too comfy in here. I love it.

I love it when you are like, how much are you lifting? Yeah. Because it really didn't look like that much. Yeah, it really didn't. It's never legs, is it? Or their quads when you make fun of their quads? Yeah, Johnny Sibley told me a lot of them don't do legs because, well, one, they think it's gay because they're like, homophobic, obviously. But then also he said it's because if their quads get too big, it will make their dick look smaller, which I had never thought about.

I love Johnny, by the way. Me too. But I didn't know that. Me either. He literally opened my eyes. I was like. When he said that, I was like, oh my God, I've never thought about that. It's crazy.

And I still don't feel, I still actually feel the same about them, which is hate them. Well, they are a perfect example of hating yourself so much you projected onto others. Yeah. Because they are, they hate the idea of them looking a certain way because of what society has conditioned them to believe. So when they see someone who is existing and is happy and is loved and is successful, that looks like what they've been taught to hate, they're like, how come this bitch gets to be happy? and I don't. Well, and to them it looks like it's people being lazy or people giving up or or not putting effort or work in or whatever. Because like you said, it really comes down to them hating themselves so much. We're not like solving any of big life's questions. It's just obvious.

They hate themselves. And instead of, I don't know, maybe going to therapy, it's just a lot easier. I highly recommend. Yeah. Same. The way that they say that like, like you said, they hate themselves so much and it's like, it's just the most aggressive form of a projection. But then at the same time, they're like, it's like almost like an envy. Like they're like envious because someone is loves themselves enough and is confident enough in themselves to be who they really are. Whether that's like just existing normally or like going out and finding love or finding success or whatever. Like they just can't, their tiny little walnut brains can't, even begin to like wrap their brain on like if it doesn't have to do with macros or like

bland chicken like they're not going to process i know and i'm like you're literally doing all of this to your body for what to be miserable forever you're miserable because you're probably hungry yeah because you're not seasoning your food there you go and they're also still single 100 so turns out doesn't work doesn't when you have less than 10% body fat it doesn't do shit doesn't nothing at all in fact one of the videos i made once which was arguably one of my most popular videos of all time when I was defending you. That was like one of my, like... I watched that video so many times.

It was so funny. At the time that I did it, that was my most popular video I've ever made. And it welcomed like this whole wave of hate. But like, I didn't care. I didn't give a shit. I was like, whatever. What about the numbers, bitch?

It was also great too because I think it really... Because people love to say that you body shame. And I think it really showed people that, you know... Well, I was going to say something nice. I spent it and left my brain. But people, my brain's like, you're being too nice.

People like saw you basically talking about somebody that's fat a shit like me and they appreciated it. You know? A lot of people sent me the video like, did you see this? And I'm like, no shit. I text her. I sent her the original video. That's true.

Well, and I actually talked to my sister about that at the time too because my sister was telling me I think it's more powerful when you talk. about it because of how I look. So I'm obviously not a really, really thin person, but I'm a thicker girl too. You are. But it's like I'm, I'm talking about this, and I'm someone who is also with someone who loves me and cares for me. And it, like, it holds more weight, unfortunately, like, because I have a boyfriend and

he's handsome and good looking and in shape. It holds more weight with them. Like, it's even more like, it's like more bulletproof. Like they can't really argue, like, oh, it's because she's single. Oh, it's because she's like a stupid, ugly fat bitch. That's why you're unhappy or you didn't have a dad that loved you. Exactly. Like all those things aren't true.

Now what? Yeah. Any other theories? Okay. So let's get back to this stupid Jordan Peterson video. I actually don't know who Jordan Peterson is, by the way. Lucky you. Okay.

I wish I didn't. He's literally like Pierce Morgan in a different font. Yeah. But he talks like Kermit the Frog. And I feel like we don't talk about that enough. Like his tone is like so like this. He talks like this. Like literally like he's on the vegetears.

That's what he sounds. like all the time, which he probably is. But like, he can eat shit. You really can't. I made a video about him once when he was like, he says the most head-ass shit, but he says, like, men built the walls and the trees and the, you know what the shit they say when they're like, men literally built the internet and the phones you're talking on? And that's like, you're mean about men and they built everything you have, which is obviously

not true. But when I stitched one of those videos once, I was like, you know, they put the like sad music on it. And then they're like, we don't talk about this enough. I'm like, everybody, guess what?

Everyone has problems in life. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. But also like, it's not, when people say that like, we, that we hate men,

like, there's men in this room that clearly don't suck. Yeah, yeah. People are capable of being men and not being pieces of shit. Yeah. But,

that's why I said, it's not a, it's not necessarily a man thing, but like, I mean, let's look at the stats. It is really. You know what I'm saying?

Let's look at this. I mean, like, I guess like being terrible is not exclusive to men, but like, your odds are higher. I just, that's on y'all. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's literally on you. But anyways, yeah, I made a video about that once. And then there's all these head-ass dudes being like, women don't want to talk about. The irony about men saying like, oh, you, you saying that men are shorters making fun of insecurities.

Okay, those are patriarchal values. Yes. The patriarchy was built by. men. So that's on you. Right, first of all. But, like, you want to reinforce beauty standards on women, but you don't like when they're reinforced on you.

I wonder why that is. That's interesting. But then when I talk about that, I always say, like, you guys need to stop pretending like you actually give a shit about men's problems, like toxic masculinity. Because if you actually gave a shit, you would take the necessary steps to unpack it and, like, confront why you feel this way about stuff. But you only want to care when I'm being mean. you. Yeah. So I was like, when I'm being mean to an asshole, you want to talk about, what about men's

feelings? What about? What about them? What about them? Like in the context of this, what about them? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, clearly, he doesn't give a shit about feelings because he attacked somebody else. And then I swooped in and I attacked him. So, yeah, fair is fair. And we love it. But this next, this, uh, we read the comments on the videos. So this one says, beauty is subjective but there's obviously a line the point is is society is pushing for normalizing unhealthy standards oh the way I've seen that comment in many different fonts yeah oh my god beauty is subjective beauty is subjective but obviously it's not that's like what he wrote but it's also she's a model like when people like criticize me or talk shit about me but I'm a model face card never

declines babe I was listening to heat it on the way here I was like Not lying where she's like face card, never did. Anyway, I love Beyonce. But I just don't, I don't, I don't get it. Like when people call me ugly or fat or the arguments here, like you're normalizing something, like, but we're models. I don't get it. Like, it's not like I, like, bought my way into being a model.

I'm here because I'm beautiful. Period. You know, and I got a big dump. That's all right. And I always say, I'm always like, well, I would say shit like, too if I was ugly. Yeah. If I was ugly like you, like I'd probably, yeah, I'd probably be mad at the world too. And people used to get mad at me when I would say that people that were just being mean like that were jealous because they were like, well, that's not a valid argument.

And I'm like, but what else is it? Because I can't imagine hating on somebody else that is happy and living their dreams. And like has no bearing on me whatsoever. Like that person will never meet me. They will never care about me. Like when they're like, well, you don't care about their feelings like the same thing like you don't care about their no I don't care this sounds like this this is like genuinely what I've told people um when men say terrible racist shit to me um I don't care about your feelings that should be obvious but I don't care about your well-being I don't like if you drop dead tomorrow I wouldn't care yeah like it wouldn't affect me yeah so you think I give a shit about your words yeah girl come on get real bitch like I'm like everything about you

is worthless to me yeah and like like like that's how I see terrible shithead dudes like that. I'm like you're literally worthless to me. Like you're worth nothing to me. Yeah. And it's also it's also terrifying that these people are raising children. Oh my God. Yeah. So many of these people are parents and you yeah, you have daughters. But I don't know. Go off. Yeah. But like yeah, sure. Like hopefully no one ever talks to your daughter that way. I would suck. Yeah. I wonder what they would do. I wonder if somebody like if your daughter was on the cover of Sports Illustrated living her dreams and somebody called her a fat bitch. How would you feel? I don't know.

He'd probably get on Twitter and be like, well, that's what happens when you promote unhealthy beauty standards. Idiot. And this one says Sports Illustrated is a journal that promotes sports bodies in this situation. They go out of their usual group. But why? First of all, that's not true. Yeah. Do you know the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue?

How many of those women are like professional athletes? Zero, usually. Sometimes. Sometimes there's a few. Sometimes there are. Yeah. Use your brain. You know what I mean?

Like, come on, be for real. This last one says, beauty is not subjective. It can vary, but the attack on beauty has been a sign of degradation for our society. Ooh, big words. Big words. It's just like the big words that make no sense. And I bet they're doing like, they're like Googling big words as they're doing these. No, literally.

What's a big word for makes worse? Degradation. No, literally beauty is, when people say. beauty is not subjective. It can vary like any type of shit like that. It's giving me eugenics. Yes. And a lot of people don't want to talk about how beauty standards are so closely tied to white supremacy. Like a lot of y'all don't want to have that conversation because you're either one, not smart enough or two racist. Yes. Either or or both or both, honestly. So when they say that, they're literally talking about blonde, haired, blue-eyed, thin, cis, heterosexual women. Yeah.

It's giving me eugenics. Yes. It's giving me racist. White supremacy. Yes, absolutely. It's giving me like Aryan. I think it's just like, just say like you're talking about like minority women in any capacity. If they're not white, they're ugly to me.

You know what I mean? Yeah, 100%. I just. They're either ugly or they want to fetishize them or it's like no in between. Or appropriate their culture. You know what I mean? The fetish thing. Yeah.

It's pretty bad. Yeah. There's like, when I was in the dating pool, that became very clear to me, specifically with women. Like, they want to, um, they want the story. They don't want to, like, actually, like, get to know who you are and, like, get to know you and, like, fall in love with you. They want to just be able to tell people that they hooked up with you, which is gross.

Obviously, I don't know that from a race standpoint because I'm very Caucasian, but I know what it's like as far as my size and also. my celebrity people treat me like it actually just happened recently where I was really into this person and I thought they were into me and then this is TMI but we're already doing it. I was celibate for two years and recently and it was a choice I was like doing kind of like a spiritual reset. No longer celibate but after we hooked up this person said to me I can't believe that I just Tess Holiday. And I felt like the floor just opened and I just like I wanted.

I know. And then obviously never saw them again. But I understand that perspective. Yeah. In that way. And yeah, I just think that people could do better. They just choose not to. And then yeah, it makes it a lot easier to not give a shit about them.

The fetish thing is so creepy weird. It is. It's weird. creepy weirdo. Like you're a big weirdo. Yeah. I'm like. And not even. a weirdo in a hot way like i'm a weirdo no weirdo in like call the cops way yeah like weirdo like

you like you like you like you yeah i don't like you yeah i'm so sorry that happened uh me too i was like i i actually thought that they were kidding and then i realized that they weren't and i was like oh all right like what am i supposed i don't know what to say it all right well this is why i'm single we'll never see you again yeah Well, and you know what? There are like so many men who are like, this is why... Like I literally recently, oh man, I kicked a completely different hornets nest recently on TikTok because I was talking about how much I really, really hate when men say this bullshit about like

taking women out of their masculine era and putting them in their feminine era. And I always talk about it now because I've been seeing lots of stuff. But that's the video you're talking about where I wasn't going to do it because it was like, low hanging fruit to me. It really was. But then he someone tagged me and was like this is so embarrassing for him. And then he wrote to that person, uh, I can help her too. I saw that. And that's when I was like, oh, and he did it to yourself. Yeah. And then as soon as my video went live, he deleted his. Of course. Immediately. And then pretended he never made that video on the first place. So if it was good intentioned, why did that happen? Yeah. But with that, with that type of like

argument. I've talked about, first of all, how, like, the gender binary is, like, so incredibly harmful in many different ways. But I was like, you guys need to unpack the fact that gender is a construct. It's not real. You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, and embedded in our society. And the reason the diet culture is a multi-billion dollar industry and all of this stuff exists is because people just want to profit off of you hating yourself. Absolutely. You know, they just want to, and they just want to make money off of the tea.

Yeah. That's the true tea, bitch. And I talked about that because I was like, every time they talk about masculine era versus a feminine era, they always associate masculinity with like being independent, being alone, being single, taking care of yourself, financially providing for yourself. Yeah, when you're feminine, you're letting men take care of you. And I was like, what's the difference between saying that and saying like, I just think women should stay at home because it's my job to take care of them as the man. Men can't even take care of themselves.

And they've proven that time and time again. How many videos do we see, especially on TikTok? Did you see the video recently? I'm Segwang, but it infuriated me that there was an older man that was like, he was making like jalapeno poppers, like bacon wrapped jalapopper's. And he was like, you know, she was sitting on the couch all day and she was supposed to have this ready for me and didn't. Turns out his wife didn't have it made because she had just gotten back from a chemo treatment. Goodbye. So you're mad that your halopeno stuffed bacon wrapped goddamn poppers weren't ready because your wife is fighting cancer.

She's like, sorry, I'm so exhausted from chemotherapy. So sorry. So you mean to tell me you want me to sit around and let you take care of me? He's like, what a bitch. What a selfish bitch. Where you go to chemo? You're gone all day. You come back and you're too lazy to make my alipenial poppers.

Also, what a shit dinner. Yeah. Hallow peni. Was there a cream cheese inside? Yeah, there was. Ugh. Where does it end? Where does it end?

Oh, my God. That's probably also racist. That video. that you just described to me is heinous and it's very nature. I can't believe that. Yeah. If people are up.

Well, they're also, like, when they say this, like, oh, I literally had talked about this because some women were really upset when I talked about masculine, feminine energy. They're like, you don't think it's, you think it's bad to want men to take care of women? And I was like, I never said that. I literally never said that. In fact, he didn't even say that. Yeah.

Like, what I said was, it's. harmful and dangerous and also invalidating to people who don't adhere to either side of the gender binary. It's bad to associate masculinity with taking care of yourself and then femininity with being weaker that you need someone to take care of you. If you want a man to spoil you, they should do it because they want to, not because you're so feminine and they're so masculine. Yeah. Those two things aren't real.

I got to fight with this guy one time who's on TikTok. He's very popular on TikTok, but he's a f***ed turd. and he has a plus-size wife. She's kind of plus-size. And his whole claim to fame, he looks like a low-budget M&M. And he's a musician, but his whole claim to fame was that he went viral years ago

for saying that he's attracted to his wife even though she's plus-eyes. And like she might never be on the cover of Victoria's, or Victoria's Secret. She might not ever be a Victoria's Secret model or on the cover of Sports Illustrated, but like I'm still attracted to her regardless. And so I said, yeah, and I said something like, what, that's weird.

Also, why are we praising men for doing the brand men? Because then a ton of women were like, oh, my God, what a king. And we love him. So his whole thing became like, Robbie Tripp is his name. I was going to hide it. But his whole thing just became like, you know, like he's the fat woman warrior. And I'm like, first of all, it's a fetish. Second of all, why should you get a reward for like caring about your wife?

But like where I'm going with this is people, it's their own shit that like you're putting out in the world thinking that you're doing something great. Yeah. Like they're helping you in some way. But really you're just doing what you should be doing. Which is loving your wife. Yeah. Crazy. What a concept.

And taking care of her because you want to, not because you have to or it's like you're. I'm doing it in spite of how much I don't want to. Yeah. Like, gee, thanks. Yeah. Like so what if someone was like, I don't care what other people say. I love you. Huh?

Bitch what? I literally was like, if someone described you as that, like, like, be for real. Like, I'm sure this dude's ugly. I'm just, I'm picturing something. He's so ugly. Okay, so I'm sure he is. So when, like, a woman talks to another, her group of friends, that's somebody who they're like, he doesn't photograph well.

No, he doesn't, like, I swear, he has good pictures. He just, like, you have to see him in person. Like, they're scared to show their friends. a picture because you're ugly. Yeah. Like you're like I love you in spite of being overweight. Yeah. Gee, thanks.

Yeah. That's why I hate videos like that too. I talked about that with Finita. I love videos. She is so funny. But I hate videos like that because they'll be like, oh, you should talk about this guy. Look, look. One of the good ones.

Is he? Yeah. And also a lot of times they're lying. 100%. They're literally lying. Yeah. They're not being, they're not for real. If you were one of the good ones, why do you have to tell us?

That's what I. And also the- Why is that whole your, why is that your entire identity? Yeah, like stretch marks, those aren't bad. Okay. Okay. Like, no shit, bitch. Like, gee, thank you, Captain Obvious.

I know they're not bad. I hate arguments like that. And then you see all the comments are like, like what you said. Yeah. Oh, one of the good ones. I'm so glad. Oh, we love you. We need more men like this.

No, bitch. No, you don't. You don't. And you know what I've said to, when you have like an outright bigot, like an outright misogynist and someone who's just purely awful off top and then you have someone like that someone like that is far more harmful to me and dangerous because they can blend like they they can lie and they can manipulate you whereas like someone who's just outright terrible you're like this guy's terrible like off top but someone who's like well no like I just think like you I just

want to take care of you it's just like you never let me in like you're always working and I feel like you don't love me enough. Like it's shit like that that makes my ass itch. Like it literally makes my butthole clench. Well, like you say, the call's coming from inside the house. Yeah, it infuriates me because they trick women. Like they literally brainwash them. And it's a control thing.

It is. And I said that in my video about the masculine, feminine energy bullshit. I was like, this is literally just a manipulation tactic to like clip your wings. Because they don't want you to be too independent because they need you to need them. But then as soon as you start needing them a little too much. They're not going to want you there anymore. Yeah. And so I made a follow-up because some women were like,

what, you think it's bad to follow up? Well, first of all, work it out, babe. You know what I mean? You dragging other women for male validation will wear out quickly. I promise you that. You know what I mean? Also, the men aren't going to be there when you need them. Yeah, they're not going to pick you.

No. Just like I'm not going to pick you. Like, they're going to walk right all over you, just like they're trying to walk over me. 100%. So I literally said in my video, I'm like, okay, if men are so confident about that, like, if that's not what they meant, right, to, like, keep women from earning their own money or, like, being too independent, so they can be more feminine, right?

I was like, if that's the case, ask them how they feel about women who primarily date for money. Ask them how they feel about that. And let's see what they say. Let's see if they're as supportive as they're claiming they are. Because I, I was like, ask them. Ask them what they think. I know what I think. I've literally said I have defended women who.

who have talked about dating older men primarily for money. Because I think it's your bag, bitch. Like if you both know what you're getting out of it, who cares, right? Yeah. But the reason why they don't like, if you ask them, they're not going to like that. And it's purely because it's consensual. Mm-hmm. And that's the T, bitch.

A lot of things they don't like about women's independence is purely because it's consensual. It's up to her. And they don't like that. No. They want to decide for you. Mm-hmm. So that's the T. Anna Nicole was the real OG. Period.

I loved her. She really was. people who just I mean men would do it too if they could you know what I mean and I've said that before I once oh my god one time I talked about this dude who like I think I like sent him into a spiral or something he like had to do a spiritual awakening after me like he like I don't feel bad for him at all no me he ran into the woods never to be seen again and then came out and then made 20 videos about me but he made this like dissertation like attacking these two girls like they were like gym girls or whatever and I literally was like his whole thing was like you only have followers because you show ass you know it's like the slutshamey shit yeah and i was like who do you think consumes that kind of content check your peers bitch yeah yeah call again call coming inside the house but also who says you can't shake ass shake ass get followers see if it works put them on maybe maybe you're upset because your content is shit like maybe that's why you're upset when i realized that people hated me because i was fat and in my

in lingerie and it got the kind of attention that it did because you weren't really seeing plus as people exist on the internet in that way around that time i mean they did like tumbler existed and i was not the first person to be hot and fat in my underwear on the internet but just with the amount of followers that i did i just wanted to do it more and then people were like oh you're a mom you're this you can't be and i'm like and and but you're still here yeah consuming You still comment on everything. Listen, I'll take that view, babe. Thank you.

Listen, I don't discriminate. Engagement is engaged. A win is a win. You know what I mean? I'll take it no matter what. I made that joke when I interviewed The Rock because that was like such a full circle moment for me. And when I got to interview him, my sister was watching the live because I was on DC, like,

DC comics or whatever. They did the live and that's where all the interviews were broadcasts and like all the comments were real like 50-50. Like they were so supportive or they were downright awful. they were only about me. And I was like, when she was telling me, yeah, some of them were terrible. But a lot of them were really good. And then she was telling me, I'm like, I mean, they had to watch me.

They watched 45 minutes of that shit. But that's my favorite part. You were like, I'm going to be everywhere, bitch. And you are. So it's like. Listen, I will tell a joke, but I will never tell a lie. And I said I was going to like poison ivy. I was going to bleed into every.

We love it. So they never stop. But I was like, you know what? You watched 45 minutes of that just so that you could tell me I was a fat buffalo bitch. A win is a win, I'll take it. You know what that does? It makes me look good to Warner Brothers because I got the stats up. 100%.

100%. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. Win is a win. A fat buffalo bitch in first class. Period. Interviewing her idols. Interviewing your idol.

Yeah. That's like, like, oh, I love it. I literally have other things, y'all will tell you. offline that I'm doing that I literally can't wait for the men to see it. I can't wait. Because they're going to shit themselves. Okay, let's go into this last video. Okay, this last video is, it's a woman's video, is in response to a guy's comment that said,

two bad women created the beauty standard for themselves. She says, here is who owns the beauty industry that created this standard. And then post pictures of CEOs and owners of the top beauty companies in the world. The vast majority are all owned by old white men. well why do you think that they're doing that who are they doing that for they're not doing it for themselves because they're doing it for men because that's how women have been conditioned that everything that we do is for the male gays truly which newsflash i don't ever want a man to look at me ever you don't me both you talked about that with chris you know chrisie yeah uh i told her

I had talked to her about it on my episode with her, but we talked about how, like, there are, like, her and I are a great example. You're a great example of this. Someone who's so truly removed from the male gays. Like, a man could never look at me again, and it would be too soon. Like, he could never talk to me again,

and I would literally be like, oh, my God. Yeah. So I need more time. You know what I mean? Like, it's because we truly do not care. Yeah. My validity, my worth does not come from their approval. Yeah.

And they hate that shit. 100%. They hate shit like that. And I talked about this the other day with my boyfriend, actually, but when men, like, attack women who look a certain way, whether they're fat, they have a bunch of piercings, tattoos, they have blue hair. You know, they always say blue hair, whatever, the shit they say. Let's like, it takes piercings, for example.

Like, if someone had piercings all over their face and they were from presenting, like, they identify as a woman. They'll attack someone like that because someone like that is so removed from the mail gate. They did not do that because. it's appealing to men at all. And even though they, they aren't attracted to that, they're still offended that you don't want to be attractive to them. A hundred percent. Like, you don't, you don't want me to fuck you? Why? I never would, but why? Why do you feel that way? I want

the option to. Yeah, I still want to be able to, like, say I would never. And they, they can't, like, their way their brain's just like, oh my God, like, they just can't process it in any way. Or, like, they're like, yeah, I wouldn't fuck you. And you're like, okay. Feelings mutual. Yeah. Like whoever said, that's one of my favorite things just over the course of my career. Like, I wouldn't even fuck you or you're disgusting. And it's like, I wouldn't fuck you.

You know what I mean? You're like, same. Yeah. I'm so grateful every single day that I'm gay. And I mean, unfortunately, I am still attracted to men. But I think I did a video about that recently where I am feeling I'm just not as attracted to men anymore because I don't feel safe with them. And so I think I'm just going to completely not date cis het men anymore.

Yeah. You know. And it's just, it's just wild that people think that we just sit around thinking about like, well, how can, how can he love me? Like, what can they do? I hope he knows. I hope he notices. Like, when they write, like, you're a fat, ugly bitch on my, on my videos. Yeah.

Do you think I read that? And I go, oh, my God. What am I going to do? Like, you think I'm like, oh. Oh my God. Guys cancel everything. I can't go on. But that's what's crazy too.

That blows my mind is that people think you're fat. Yeah. Like that's crazy. You know what I mean? I'm fat. But like you, I don't know. It just makes no sense. What you're trying to say is you're tall and thick as shit.

Yeah. Well, and what's crazy is that I, before you, I ever posted anything that had my body in it, they would still say that to me. Yeah. So I would tell, like, my followers, who love me. They're like, how do I, like, free myself from not feeling that way? Like, feeling terrible when they say things like that to me because I want to make content, but I'm afraid and I'm nervous and I'm worried that I'll get hate and it will, like, ruin me.

And I was saying them that I literally get, I got hate on videos of just my body, not my body at all, just my face. Literally from here up, they would call me a fat bitch. They can't see my body at all. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Like I said, it truly 100% doesn't matter. They will call you that no matter what.

But you could be the thinnest bitch in the world. If you were talking like me, they would still call you fat and ugly. Like, they're going to say that no matter what. So you can take the power out of it right away. 100%. Like, steal the wind right out themselves, bitch. Like, it's not going to hurt you when you know that. One, fat's not an insult.

You have to unpack your internalized fat phobia first. Yes. And I was like, and then second, you have to know, they're going to save that shit to you no matter what. Regardless. I mean, there'll be the amount of people that are nice to me and I'm hot. And then all of a sudden, I'm not interested. But now I'm a fat bitch. That's a perfect example.

But I wasn't five minutes ago. Yeah, they say the most, like, they say the most crazy shit. Like, you say no thank you. And they're like, yeah, well, guess what? J.K., you're ugly. I was so, I was making that up. Idiot. The way you're like, okay.

All right, have a nice day. See you later. A fat bitch that doesn't want to fucking you. So I think that's on you. But, oh, also this video saying like, women created the beauty standard for themselves. That's not true. I think women help perpetuate it, but that's not by,

that I would say most of the time it's not on purpose. Sometimes it is, but I think that's just internalized misogyny. Yeah, and I also think, like, if women, like, want to do all of the things we do, myself included, I'm a glamour girl. If I want to go get my hair and nails and done, whatever, I'm doing that because I want to. I'm not doing that because I'm told that I want to. Yeah. If the world disappeared tomorrow and I would have to, like, live in a cave and, like,

exist like they used to. I'm going to, like, I would do it, but I'm going to be mad that I don't have like nails and lashes and shit like that, you know? And I'm not trying to look good for anybody else, but like, I just, yeah. I just love how it looks on me. Same, because I get the shit about my nails

too sometimes. I'm like, if you're not a bad bitch, just say that. Yeah. This life is not for everyone a babe. I'll tell you that. It's not. So what are the comments say? Yeah, this first one says, so you're mad. Are you mad that men are better CEOs? The way it just...

So Elon Musk. Trump. What a great CEO. Wow, great examples. Great CEOs. Fantastic. They're really killing it. The way they just like, my sister says this all the time.

But she goes, you can't just say things. And it's true. Like, it's so applicable to everything in life. Like, you can't just say things. Like, you have to like, how, what am I trying? Like, you know what I mean, like critical thinking? Yes. Like, mull it around, like kick it around in there.

What's critical thinking? They wouldn't know. I'll tell you that much. They don't know her. That's why I said. They're not going to hear anything I say. They're just going to call me a fat bitch. So let's just get that out the way.

Yeah. Every time I say like elephant in the room, you're the real elephant. Oh, well, I'll just got to get that out the way. Because I know they're going to say it. They're going to say it no matter what. Okay, this last comment says, what?

Beauty standards and makeup companies. No man ever said you need makeup. It's always the girl who wants them. It's like you're like, there, but you're not there. You know what I mean? Like you're right in front of the point. Like girls want it because men have convinced them they need it. And then now it's evolved. I always say this too. Like I feel like makeup and beauty, anything beauty related or like I genuinely it's just self-care. That's what I think. Anything like that, it's evolved so far past like men

being like, get this rouge to get a husband. Like it's, we're not in the 1950s anymore. Like we're so far past that. At this point, it's an art form. Yes. So it's like, they're doing it because they look good. Yeah. And I always think you don't want them to look good. Yeah. It's good with or without, but you don't want the extra spice. It's like how they shit on people like Harry Styles for, I mean, I know people, whatever, I'm, I was going to get into the people. I'm not going to. Yeah. But people who like shit on him for like painting his nails or doing whatever and they call him gay or the way that he dresses, but how are women responding? Because, you know.

That's the, I once made a video, like, one of my first videos to ever go viral about Jim Bros. I was like, I'm not even going to get into the nuance of the male and female gays because, like, these lung heads are not smart enough to have that conversation with me. But someone had commented on my video and they said, a good, like, example of the male-female gaze is like Thor the superhero is the male gaze where Loki is the female gaze. So it's like brawn and strength and bravery and courage is like what's considered manly. And then to women, what's considered attractive to them is being smart, being funny, being witty.

And not that Loki's ugly, but I'm just saying like there are strengths that are highlighted are very different. Very different. Thor is like topless, arms out, muscles all the time. Loki's fully covered head to toe. like all the time neck to the ankle you know my female gaze is fat thor oh tea a lot of girls liked that loved fat thor a lot of them they were into that oh my god and the same dudes are always like they say that they want a dad bad because it makes them feel good about themselves or maybe all of you

are just rancid i was literally thinking like are women like attracted like beauty is subjective obviously so some women genuinely aren't attracted to men who are like super in shape and that's fine but some women, they could find you attractive, but then you open your mouth. And then they're like, it ruins it. Never mind. Like you open your fat gob and they're like, oh my God, get out of here. Get out of my face. And I was like that's, you ruin it for yourself.

So now women will go after men who don't look like they're like chiseled or whatever it is because nine times out of ten they had to develop a personality unlike. Yeah. Their personality revolves around having like big like Hercules titties. Same. You're going to be both It's not easy being buff But you know

Somebody's got to do it Yeah I made that video about Pab smears And the men lost their mind man I literally just said I want to be strong And then they're like You think you're stronger than me Like a true cave man

But that's my You know One of my favorite things that people say About me in particular Is they're like Oh you're lazy Blah blah blah And I'm like

You couldn't do what I do in a day You couldn't be me. You couldn't live my life. Never. You could literally never. No. You know? Never in a million years. It's just, it's cute to play pretend though. Yes. I like to play pretend. Also, this like a lazy mindset thing. Yeah.

It's such a gross capitalist mindset. Like you have to be on. You have to be. You have to be working. You have to be like, okay, Gary Vee, relax. Jesus Christ. You know what I mean? Like we're not, we're not like in this like, go, go, go, go. like literally jumping out of a green army plane go go like that's how they think their life is yeah when really it's getting in their like Hyundai and driving to Sam's Club and working and it's like okay the Hyundai is so real with the spoiler

on the back of it yeah literally and it's like it's like that dingy gold color yes yeah and then they go sell cell phones in a Sam's Club and they're like me that's me on my grind worry about your own bag bitch that's why I'm like okay well nothing you say is ever going to make them

happy so at this point like just make fun of them yeah it works clearly you and I are living proof absolutely I love it okay so to wrap up this episode what do you want people to know about just existing on the internet in general as someone who does not adhere to like those racist beauty standards yeah um in general and then also just existing in general life like what do you want people to know or believe or hold close to them I mean I think that us fat bitches are proof that you can literally be who you want to be and be happy and have a successful full life despite what people think or say. I mean, we've had so many examples over and over. And I think

that TikTok has been such a blessing for me, as gay as it sounds, because I've met like so many people like you and Dylan and so many people that literally are just existing and being themselves and taking up the space that was taken from them for so long that they, that now we have like people that are making all of us just feel happy and seen in a way that we never had. So anybody who doesn't like you or thinks otherwise because they don't matter. Like at the end of the day, they don't matter. They don't matter at all. They're not going to keep you from a happy life or like love or success.

anything that you want like it's not up to them it's not it's up to you it's not and the amount of times that i was living my life to make other people happy and you're just left by yourself for what no it's not worth it so prioritize yourself and your happiness and what that looks like to you and if people actually with you then they're going to fuck with you and then you'll be a super hot successful rich bad bitch like tess holiday period she's living well and sleeping well, I promise you that, bitch. Yeah, fat problematic queen. Thank you so much, Tess, for coming today.

I adore you. Thank you. I love you so much. I love you the most forever. For those of you who do not already follow Tess Holiday, please go and follow her. Where can they find you? Just at Tess Holiday with two elves everywhere. On everything and everywhere, go follow Tess immediately.

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