The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - MR. POPULAR Ft. Kyle MacLachlan | Episode 196

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

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celebrating its 40th anniversary. in must be 21 to enter gonna go to the gym I booked it I gotta go to the gym have to work with my coach yes yes shoot oh I hate when that happens no I booked time to walk my dog I guess me okay everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section Joe starring me your favorite everybody knows me who cares about me on to the guest today we have a living icon a living legend the one the only Kyle McLaughlin oh my god oh my gosh you pronounce my name perfectly. I've got to say, well done. Period. Thank you. Not easy.

I practiced over and over and over again. I was like, got to get it right. Got to get it right. Come on. I'm honored to have you. I'm very, very pleased to be here. Thank you. Yes. Oh, my God. Of course. What an honor to have you in the stew. Thank you. And we also did meet last night for the first time. We did. We did. At Britney Broske's Royal Court Party. What a crazy event that was. What a stupid sentence. What? It goes without saying. And what an amazing house that we... I know.

I don't know the history of it, but it's been around for a while. And it's really suited the whole vibe. I agree. There's a lot of stuffed animals in there, like taxidermied. Yes. That were spooky. Spooky to look at. Yes, I took a picture in front of the white fox, I think.

I think it was a fox, giant creature. Yeah, my sister took a picture in front of the zebra. Oh, I missed... Oh, really? I miss... I walked right past. You walked right past the zebra? I didn't even notice a zebra.

That's what happens. It's like, oh, it's a zebra. Yeah, yeah. Oh, well, see those every day. You know. How have you been, Kyle? I've been pretty good. I've been really busy.

You have. Yeah, I say that with a surprise. You're real, Mr. Popular. You are. You're all over the place, girl. Mr. Popular, which is fun, because I was not Mr. Popular in school. But so it's nice to be Mr. Popular for a moment.

And now I bet you they feel silly for not making you Mr. Popular in school. Yes, they should have. I should have won the Mr. Mr. Popular Contest. I've been having so much fun. I've been having so much fun. We're doing my little podcast as well. And I've been just enjoying it, interviewing, talking with people, getting to learn about

a whole culture or a whole generation, other generations, I should say, that I am really fascinated with. I think that's amazing. Thank you. Well, I know you obviously, you're a very successful, esteemed actor, but how does that differ from hosting for you? Are they, like, kind of apples and oranges? Do you kind of use pull from one?

I do, a pull, yeah, definitely. Because we have, I mean, a variety of people on comedians, musicians, actors, entrepreneurs. But I approach you from the creative side. Love. So it's like I'm asking them what's the process, what's important to them, how they first started, you know, what was the impulse that came, and kind of how they work and how they create. Love.

And, yeah, so it's fascinating. It's not a gotcha kind of show. not a gossipy show really. It's just like, tell me about you. And we get into some, and really the conversation just wanders, you know what I mean? And we get into some really,

some, little heavy stuff sometimes, but mostly just fun and lighthearted. And I feel like I come away with a much better sense of who they are and hopefully the audience does as well. I love that. That's very similar to this show too, I feel like. Yes, I agree.

I even feel when I've pitched to have, like, talent like yourself on, like people who are more traditional Hollywood, I've also said the same thing. It's not a gotcha show. It's more so like a, a fun little talk, a little chat. We can learn a little bit more about each other.

But I think that's the fun in it, letting it kind of take its own life as you chat and get to know someone. Yeah. That's beautiful. So that's been really fun occupying a lot of time right now. The podcast is called What Are We Even Doing? And we ask that question and we never answer it. But we have a lot of fun doing it.

Works perfectly then. Perfect. The unanswered trouble question. And then I've got the couple things that have been out. We just, the lowdown, we just aired our eight episodes of the lowdown with with Ethan Hawk, which went really well. So cool. It's really a cool show.

Yeah. And then we start to fall out craziness here very soon. Yeah. Busy, busy, busy. I'm on a press, press, I'm pressed to work. The press run of a lifetime. Yeah, look at my eyes. You can see how much sleep I'm getting. No, it's like not happening.

I know you said you weren't Mr. Popular in high school. However, I would like to know, how did you get, were you a theater kid? What's your, what's your tea when you were in high school? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was, well, it was, um, it was, um, difficult, not difficult to explain, but there was a drama department in my high school. Okay.

There were drama classes, but no one took the drama classes. The real nerds took drama classes. You just people, you know, in the hallway, you just don't want to be seen walking with them. So they were really on the edge. But all of the cool kids did the musical, and we did a musical in the spring and we did a fall play. Interesting. So it was considered, no, that was okay. And so I, and I just, I loved it.

So I did the fall play every year. I did a musical every year. And so it kind of was my thing in high school. I was, you know, you have to find that thing that you're good at somehow. It's like, oh, you're that person. You know what I mean? You're looking for an identity, really. And that was kind of my thing.

And it had carried through into college, although when I got to college, I was like, I don't think I can do this. this is a fun side thing you know what I mean yeah totally I gotta find a career I gotta find you know what I'm stable yeah traditional yeah and I was like okay and the more I tried to dig into that the more I was like but I really I always like oh I'm just gonna take one one one drama class you know at least one just to scratch the inch just one yeah and it pulled me back in and I and I just it just became clear to me after a couple

semesters like you know this is kind of where I'm supposed to be I think. Yeah. So I just how do you like stage acting versus like TV, film? How do you like it? Very different in some ways and then it's real similar. I mean, you're approaching a script the same way. You're working on the character.

You do have an extended rehearsal period which is wonderful to really explore and figure things out. And then you have the performance which is not stand-up necessarily. I think it's as close to stand-up as you can get. I think stand-up is like the most difficult And I've never done it. I've been just too scared to ever do stand up.

But on stage, you know, you're in front of the audience. I'm aware of the audience out there. And you have this sort of, I mean, it's a real high, you know. And you're kind of controlling things, you know. And you ride this energy. And that's why at the end of a play, you need to go out and get a glass of wine because you got to calm down. I got to de-escalate a little bit.

Yeah. And then film is different. You know, film is like a full 12-hour day. or television and then and it's kind of like short bursts. Yeah. You know you sprint and then you walk for a while and you sprint and you walk. Yeah, like some of the people I've had on the show

that are actors, they've told me like acting on stage is like no feeling like it. Like it's completely different feeling. It is. When you're working with the room, with the energy of the room and implement. Do you have a preference? I mean, I love stage.

I haven't done stage since the early 2000s, but it would be fun to go back again. It has to be kind of the right play. Yeah. Well, you're in that era of your life where you can, you can pick a choose. Well, I'm, thank you. I'm Mr. not Mr. Now I'm Mr. Popular now. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. If only Mr. Popper have been come younger, but it would be, it would be fun to do. But it's, you know, it's also a lot of work. I mean, it's great, but it's, you know, it's two hours roughly of just kind of, you know, head down, let's go. Yeah. And you can't stop. Yeah, totally. No, there's no retake.

There's no go do over, you know. And I think after a while you get really comfortable with the idea that you're going to do it one way and then you can do it again in front of a camera and you can try another thing. You can try these different things, you know, which I like. I like the freshness of that too. Oh, that's true, huh? Like kind of adapting a little bit, trying new things. That's fun. Yeah. It's really fun.

Yeah. It's really fun to experiment a little bit. You know, within, you know, you've got to kind of stay within the confines of the character a little bit. But also, ideally, because you're working with someone, and I was talking about the lowdown earlier with, like, with Ethan Hawks. so we work very similar. So you don't really know where the scene is going to track. You know, it's going to sort of go in this direction. Be like, how are we going to get there?

We're going to figure it out in this take. Yeah. And he's up for that. And I'm up for that. And that's the fun. That's like the coolest part of it, I would say. It is. It is.

It is those moments in front of the camera. Very cool. When you were out of college, like, what was like a gig you got where you were like really feeling like, I think I'm going to do this for the rest of my life? It was, it was when I, Well, I went to school, trained for repertory theater. My first job out of school was at the Shakespeare Festival in Ashland, Oregon. So on the main stage, there are 1,200-seat theater playing Romeo and Romeo and Juliet.

Okay. It was crazy. That is so cool. And I was like, oh, this is real. Yeah. You know, it was like, and then you sort of get into this routine, and I love the whole routine. Very cool. Of kind of preparation during the day, performing at night, going out after.

Afterwards, getting a bite to eat, you know, with some friends. The vibe is very fun. How was Shakespeare acting Shakespeare? I feel like that's heavy, heavy hitter. It's heavy, but you know, the language is so beautiful. Yeah. And some plays are more, you can comprehend more than others. Romeo and Juliet, it's pretty available.

I mean, there's language, there's terms, terms of phrase in there that are sometimes hard to kind of figure out. But for the most part, it's pretty understandable. Right. And it's just, I don't know, I love it. Yeah. I love it. And so it's like poetry.

You know, when you learn it, you never forget it. Yeah, totally. So, you know, but soft what light through yonder window breaks, it is the east and Juliet is the sun, a rise fair sun and kill the envious moon, who is already sick and failed with grief that thou her made far more fair than she. Period. Period. It just goes on and on and on. You know, it just never leaves your head. Yeah, it's like a song almost.

It's like a song. Because it sits in there so beautifully. Yes. I love that. really good comparison. What's the most challenging role you've ever had? Whether it's stage TV film or it could be one in each. I think I did the Twin Peaks, the original and then we had Twin Peaks the return and I played three different characters and two of the characters I didn't know if I was going to be able to really pull them off. One in particular who was

absolutely psychotic and very, very, very scary, which I'd never done before in my life. And I said, I don't know if I can cross over it. I don't know if I want to cross over into that. But I said, if I don't, it's not going to work. Yeah. So off I went. And it was very powerful. Cool. And also, like, I could not wait to take off the character and leave him in my.

my dressing room at the end of... Yeah, get back to yourself. Yes. Yes. And it was one of those things where I really was like, no, no, he has to stay here because I don't like, I don't, I appreciate the energy. It's a powerful energy. I said, I don't want to be in that energy. That's good that you can have that differentiation. I'm so important. I'm sure it's really hard, especially when you're like deep in it, deep in character. Yeah. So that was probably your, your most difficult. It was really challenging. Really challenging. Everything is challenging to a certain degree. Yeah. because I love getting into the complexity of the personality and digging around, you know, and sort of figuring things out and hopefully bringing that, you know.

Yeah, to life. Yeah, to life. And for audiences. Yeah. When you're looking at roles, like, do you have like a similar method every single time? Does it kind of vary depending on the project? It's pretty similar. It's like, so we'll start with the blueprint, which is the script.

Yeah. And then just really get into that very. very, very, very intensely. So, and taking it apart. It's like pulling, it's like pulling apart, I don't know, like fabric or something, you know. And then you're gonna reassemble it, of course. But I love that process.

And then it's like learning everything, bringing everything in, and then kind of letting it go away. And then you start, because now you're starting the scene with your scene partner, and you're not thinking about what you're doing, You're thinking what are they doing and what's happening? And so you're suddenly now the what you've done is no longer here. It's out there.

And that's again, talking about Ethan, I love that because he's going to throw something to me that I. Think Verizon is expensive. Think again. Anyone can bring their AT&T or T-Mobile bill to a Verizon store today and we'll give you a better deal. So bring us your bill. Walk in, running, Hogo stick in, teleport if you can. Ride on the back of a rollerblading yak or flying on the wings of a majestic falcon. Any way you can.

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It's like tennis. So much like tennis. Because you don't know kind of how it's going to come at you. Right. Because reading it on the paper is different from like seeing it being performed live. Interesting. I'm asking so many questions about that study. because I am getting into acting.

Good. So I'm venturing into it now, dipping my toes, if you will. Yes. And such lovely, I can't see them, but I'm sure they're lovely. They're lovely. Thank you, Kyle. I assure you they're lovely.

I can tell you confidently. I believe you. I am venturing into acting. I've been doing quite a few reads and stuff. Haven't booked anything yet, but that's okay. I'm just getting, I'm just getting all my bearings, I think. Are you working with someone? Yeah, I do.

I have an acting coach. Yeah, very important. I did a read recently. Honestly, it's funny because, like, the first experience I had with an acting coach was not very positive. Only because I felt, like, as soon as she heard where I, like, got my start from, she kind of wrote me off a little bit. And she was like, no, TikTok, okay. And I was like, well, yeah, that's, like, how I became a name. But, like, obviously, my thought is, like, if I was just on some bullshit, like, I have a lot of followers.

I can be in a movie. If I was like that, why would I be hiring a coach? And she was not cheap. So I was like, baby, why would I be paying for 45 minutes of your time if I was like arrogant about it, I guess? Yeah, or not really, really wanting to learn. Right. I was like, and that's what I told her. I said, I really want to learn like my ego is not too big.

I know I don't know anything. The only characters I've ever played right now have been myself like in commercials and stuff. So I haven't really done professional acting at all. So that's why I want to like, you know, I like to learn. I'm a Virgo. so I love to learn new things, which makes me know it all. And that's obviously because I do know it all. So obviously, this is how I add more to my repertoire.

Yes, I study and I learn everything. Makes complete sense. Okay. So my experience with her wasn't very positive, but then I met with someone else who's now my acting coach. And he was, he's been so wonderful. And I did like a read literally not too long ago, like a week or two ago. I did a live read. And I was kind of nervous for it because the last callback I had with a live read, I did not get.

And so I was a little nervous, but when I got on with my coach, he was like, he goes, okay, I read through everything. Like, I think, I think you're going to nail it. I think it's going to be fine. And then he was like, but honestly, like, fuck it. Let's just have fun. Let's go in there and have a good time. And I was like, okay, he's like, let's take pressure off. Yeah.

Let's go in because I studied the material and like I was like, I was going over and over. I had props. I had all that stuff. Yeah. And he was like, it's going to be okay. Like, let's just go in and have a good time. It's so nice to hear that you just let it all go because I think that's so important. Right, because it takes the fun out of it.

I feel like I'll almost choke myself out with like nerves when I'm, which I never really get nervous doing. Like I'll sit down here and tell people to suck my wiener for 200 episodes, as you heard, we're almost there. And I'm like, whatever. But then as soon as I get in front of, so I'm like, um, what's the line? Sorry? Like I felt so. It's hard. Yeah, it's hard.

It's hard to pull the lines up. I mean, it's not easy, especially if you've been, you've worked. on something and it's a new environment, new situation. Right. And it's like, yeah, because you get flustered. The same thing happens to me. Stuff goes like, I forgot my life. I don't know.

What am I supposed to say here? So, but I love that. I love that you found someone. Yeah. That's, that, you're not gonna get the right person the first time. Right. You know. I know. You have to sort of,

it has to be a relationship, you know, it has to work. Totally. And you have to feel comfortable. And I like the idea that he just said to you, let's go out and have a great time. It reminded me of something as you were I remember when I did, so I did Dune and I met Ken McMillan. And Ken McMillan, was a wonderful actor.

And we, I actually took a scene class from him. After I came back from that, I said, I wanted to work with him and he was teaching this class. Very cool. And he said, you know, when he, on stage in particular, but even in film, he said before he starts the scene, he could be, and he was speaking about being backstage. So he's being backstage and he's talking to one of the,

one of the grips guys or something like that. and his cue is coming up and he can hear it and he's talking to him about, you know, whatever it is, like a ball game or something he cooked the other night. And that he goes right onto stage, just carries that right with him. So he has a real, he's a real connection and he just brings it right into the stage

and he starts the scene and he's carrying that as if it's had a life had before. You know what I thought, that is so brilliant. Instead of like standing off stage and getting yourself all up and getting ready. That's so true. So it's kind of what you were, I think a little bit of what you were saying.

Yeah, it's almost like distraction to keep from. Yes, and just get into the vibe and then go. Yeah, it's like, so it's more natural rolls off. That's so true. I'm going to take that. Yeah, I've never forgotten it. I'm going to steal it from you. And then when I went in Oscar and would be like, you know, one time I had this scene partner, I just tell your whole story.

I was sitting with this one of my guests. I forgot his name. God, the name escapes me. Popular. Is it popular somebody? I don't know. Maybe. That's so true.

True. I love that. I think that that kind of energy helps me put less pressure on it. Because I feel like when I am, like you said, a little bit more relaxed, like he was saying, I just kind of carried that energy with me. I feel like it does perform a little bit better. When I'm on edge, I'm a little like, oh, you know why? Because people are like, what's you what's you going to do next? Yeah. You don't know. They're like, they lean in. And it's like, what's going on? You know, they want to know. Well, obviously, pivoting. but not really. I know you were on overcompensating.

How was your experience doing that? We love overcompensating. We love Benny and Marybeth here. They are the best. And speaking of someone who came from the world of social. Yes. And has like moved through to create characters and now writing and now he's got a show. Yeah.

You know, don't count that out. And I'll tell you this because you're his like pseudo dad. Yeah. So you can pass the message along. Oh, pass it off. He casts almost all of my friends and not me. You know.

So Benny, I don't want to make you feel like shit, buddy. Benny, I'm telling your dad on you. Yeah, I'll talk to you right now, son. We're going to have... Go to your room. Go to your room. Yeah, go to your room.

There you go. And cast me in season two. Thank you very much. There you go. But how was your experience working on overcompensating? It was fun. I feel like it was super fun. Yeah.

Just so delightful, joyful. The character that he, that Benny wrote from me as his dad, was very interesting and funny. And he let me get away with some crazy... and comedy and stuff, which I don't get a chance to do that much. I know, I was going to ask. I was like, how do you like doing comedy? I love it. I really do.

I love sort of a serious comedy. You know, comedy situation, comedy because of, you know, I'm just an odd guy. And I really love, I love Benny so much. I know. The experience was great. He's wonderful and amazing and very talented, a very talented writer and actor, obviously. He's going to have to be on season two. It has to happen.

I know. And now that we put the pressure on, I'd like to think I'm cast already. Go on and cook me, cook me up a character, Benny. I'm waiting for it. So I'll wait. I'll send you notes when I have them. Yes. Perfect.

I can't wait. Oh, I can't wait to see what he comes up for you. I hope he does. Right. I also, do you know, I feel like, I feel like Benny had you in mind when he wrote it, to be quite honest with you. I think maybe. Yeah.

I think maybe because the voice was like, oh, I think I relate to this guy. I think I understand what this is like. Well, it's kind of weird because, I mean, I have a son. My son is 17. And, you know, playing a parent, because I played a parent before I had children. Yeah. Is different than playing a parent when you have a child. Oh, interesting.

You know what I mean? It's definitely, you can do all the substitution in the world you want. But you just, there's just no way to completely understand that journey. Right. Without having gone through it in real life. Yeah, absolutely. So, and there's just nothing that you don't do for your kids. kids, you know, and so that way, that was the way it was with Benny.

And at the same time, the dynamic between he and, and Marybeth was just, from my point of view, was like Benny was the star, the superstar, Mary Beth was like, oh, yes, sorry, I didn't see you there. You know, it was like, you know, and I just said, oh, I love that dynamic so much. It's just very, you know, he just, it was very clever. Yeah, I agree. I was, I was going to say, too, is there anything now, since you're at this, successful stage in your career. Is there anything that has to stand out on a script to you for it to

speak to you? Do you kind of just come and go? Does it move you? Two things. One, are you moved and you read it and you're like, oh wow, I'm really, I'm in the story? And second of all, when I look at the character, is there something, is it kind of, what am I, can I bring something to this character? It's like, I don't connect with this character or I don't really understand this character. And you know, you, if that happens, then you're kind of like, wait just a second. Yeah. So maybe this isn't something that I should do or maybe it's not right or Or maybe I just haven't kind of understood it.

Yeah, I need to see a little bit more. Yeah. And I work with the, I have a scene coach that I work with, script coach. So we work through stuff together, mostly material and just look at it and and just kind of and talk through it. Talk through it very slowly and carefully and really think about each moment, each word kind of, you know, gets pretty. serious. Yeah, totally. But it's been really helpful. I love that you still have a coach, too.

I think that's wonderful. Keep the saw sharp. Yeah. Yeah, I have to. It's that. And it's also just, you know, it's when you commit the time, it's like, okay, we're going to, I've booked you for two and a half hours. And it's like, I'm going to do the work. I'm a little bit like that. Right? Right.

Yeah. That's true. Going to go to the gym? I booked it. I got to go to the gym. I have to work with my coach. Yes. Shoot. Oh, I hate when that happens. I know. I book time to walk my dog.

I guess I'm going to walk my dog. Well, to kind of pivot, but not really. I did tell you this fun thing at the party last night that one of my best friends Carrie, her mom, Jennifer. Jennifer Pritchett Realtor is what I call her because that is her Instagram name. So Jennifer Pritcher. Yeah. Jennifer underscore Pritch and underscore Realtor.

Oh, my God. Love her. Okay. She's a huge fan of the comment section. I have. I have referenced Jen on the show a couple times because she is so fun and she's a hoot. But more specifically, she's a huge fan of the comic section. She's a diehard fan of you.

And I had to tell you last night because we have to shout out Jen and tell her Kyle, Jen, I did tell Kyle about you and he does say he loves you too, right, Kyle? I love you so much. And I'm actually looking for a house. So I don't know. So Jennifer Bridger, Realtors, your girl. And honestly, what's funny is, Karen. was telling me in the dress

I mean that's her whole name Jennifer realtor I literally talked about her I'm like Jennifer Bridgett realtor yeah obviously I know her that's her middle name's Richard her last name's realtor what are the odds that she became a realtor JPR thankfully she became a realtor but she's a diehard Twin Peaks fan like Twin Peaks is her North Star

and Carrie was even telling me in the room that her family she comes from a legacy of Twin Peaks lovers including her grandma and her aunt. Wow. And they all, did you show him the picture? Do you want to show them the picture? Yeah, I printed it off. Okay, yeah, let's show them the picture.

I love this. They have, apparently, Jen has been, she's friends with, on Facebook with other people from Twin Peaks. You're her only one. She's not friends with on Facebook. Oh, we have to change that right now. They were on the news locally in Baltimore, and they're invited to the Twin Peaks cast party

because they made, like, when Twin Peaks was canceled, they like lost their minds. They made a video. And it's very as hell because it's old. I am here because of you. That's what it is. But that is literally her, your mom, aunt and grandma. Yeah, grandmother and aunt.

I love that. And we know it's legit because it's time stamped. Yeah. There's evidence right there of Twin Peaks biggest fan. She's like, this is like a generational loop I'm closing. Oh. This is awesome. By telling you, I had to tell you we had to shout out

Jen, obviously. Yeah, 100%. She was gutted. She could not be here today. She was gutted. And you know what's funny is? I'll come back. I'll have to come back.

You have to come back. I would love that. Honestly, like, I want to say a couple months ago, whenever Jen was in town, she came and watched us. Yeah. And she's in, Baltimore.

Am I right? No. From Baltimore. Now she lives in North Carolina. North Carolina, one of my favorite states. That is so crazy. Jen, did you hear that? Crazy.

Where? Can I ask? Whereabouts in North Carolina? Kiliana? Wilmington. In Wilmington. Wait, you said this last night. Yeah, I did. I did. Yeah. Where we shot Blue Velvet. Yes. And not even an hour away from Varnum Town,

which is this crazy podcast I did. This is on the coast. You don't have to go to Varnumtown. But we did a podcast about this little town that was this drug smuggling operation. It was a huge thing on the coast. Yeah. And we're going to try and turn it into a series. And I bet I bet Jen knows all about it. Honestly, she knows everything. She's the funniest person alive Like we have a lot of isms from Jen

Okay Here's a perfect one One time she called Carrie Or Carrie called her and was like Oh do you want to come with me to this wedding This weekend And she was like well what time Because I am volunteering at the blueberry festival

So what time And then I am going to a cookout later So actually I'm busy So if you ever want to go to a blueberry festival And buy a house You can have Jen I know Jen is Jen is my person That's your main girl

So funny, blueberry festival. I mean, I guess that is important. Right? I don't know. I mean... More important than a wedding,

I'd say. Yeah, I'd argue. Honestly. I mean, well, maybe, yeah. It's depending on the wedding. Like, a couple months ago when she was in town, she came and watched the show for a bit,

love her, obviously she's the best. And she was even, she'll sometimes text Carrie like, you know, Drew should have this person on their show. She'll just text carry that. And then I'm pretty certain.

She said, you should have Kyle O'clock. And that was months before we heard from you. Lo and behold. And then Carrie was like, Mom, you're never going to believe who is going to come on the comments section. So she's gutted. She couldn't be here today. Oh, shoot. I did have to give her a little shout, a little piece.

Okay. I'm glad you did. Of the app because she's a huge fan. And if you could sign her VHS tapes after, you would appreciate it. Absolutely. I can see there's three or 400 tape. I'll sign all those photographs and all the things. Yeah.

Carrie was. Literally like, I'm like, do you think maybe he'll sign my mom's VHS tapes? And I was like, I prepped him at the party last night. I did let him know about Jen. And I brought a couple different pens that we can use. So we are good. Give her a mix and match a little bit. Oh, that's very well.

I love it. I love the VHs. That is VHs. Those are OG, Twin Peaks VHS tapes. That is. That is. Yeah, absolutely. That's fantastic.

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I mean, it's really nicely done. Like, you're in, it's in a log encased in a log. Yeah, like, right? I love that. 360 of Jen's VHS tapes. That's cool, and you have all the images of the cast on top. I know it's really stunning, honestly. And it's in really good shape.

Yeah. It's like, I mean. This could go for a million dollars. $1 million. Once you sign it, I'm going to hawk it. So I hope that's cool. Yes. That's going to reduce the price. Then it'll be 50 cents after I sign it.

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But I do have some other fun facts about you. Uh-oh. If you'd like, we can go down them. Okay. Okay, this first one says, your first film appearance was getting paid $10 to be an extra in the movie The Changelang. Yes. Yes, I was at school.

I remember, I got $10. You know, I would have done it for free. Yeah. Actually, I did it for free. And then $10. I don't even know if I saw that money where it went. But yes, I was at school at the University of Washington. And that's where the program was where I studied that I was like, okay, I'm going to become an actor.

And they posted the thing in the drama department. Come be an extra. Yeah. Basically just be a student on campus. Yeah. And so I just said, and I was like, okay, I didn't know what this meant. And I just went and I said, okay, you're going to walk up these stairs. I didn't see a camera.

I didn't see it. I didn't even know if there was another actor. It was just a walking, it was just a bunch of us. Yeah. And I just, and I must have said actions. I didn't hear action. People just started moving. And I just went with the people and we walked up the stairs.

And said, okay, stop. So okay, now what do we do? We got to do it again. I was like, okay. I mean, it was literally, I knew nothing. Just walking up steps, walking back. steps I'm walking back down and I haven't I haven't gone to look at the I've never seen

I mean I've seen the film but I haven't really looked to see if I made the cut I don't know if I did we have to go back in love I might have been cut out I bet Jen will know if you've been in there yes she will I bet she would know she knows all my bless her heart it says before filming blue velvet you met Laura Dern and David Lynch at Bob's big boy for a chemistry lunch yes and how back up I think it went well I'd say pretty well and I dated for four years. Oh my God.

It was great. Lord Dern. How fun. And David Lynch, obviously so cool. Yeah. And do, like, chemistry lunch, is that just for the, like, before you start filming, obviously? Yeah, I think.

I think it was, that was what it was. You know, David doesn't really audition people. You know, it's more of a kind of a meet and talk. Very cool. Which is very nice, very civilized. Yeah. He just figures, hey, well, you're an actor. what to do, you know. And then he meets you and wants to know if you, if he gets a sense of you

within his, you know, his world. And sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, but he's just very kind and very gracious. Well, it's very kind, it was very gracious. I still speak of him as if he's here in the present tense. And so Laura and I, and we just had a lovely meeting and she's just delightful and alluring and fun and she had a great sense of humor. I remember laughed a lot. She's got a great laugh. Like you. She has a great laugh. Oh, thank you. Different than your laugh. Yeah, I don't know if I'd call mine alluring, really. Maybe like a siren. Maybe like a siren in the ocean, you know.

I think it's great. But we did that. And that kind of thing. I had one other, I had a chemistry read for a film years ago. I think it was called The Net. I had a chemistry read with Sandra Bullock and

I thought it went great but when you go see the movie I'm not in it so sadly. So apparently other people did not feel that way. They did not feel the chemistry

that I thought was scintillating. I thought it was piping hot. Pipe and hot. Yeah. There you go. So it doesn't always work out. Oh, that's okay.

Yeah, yeah. I even, well, I haven't even gotten that far, but I did, I've told this story a few times, but like, when Moana, the live action Moana was like broadcast that they were going to film it, you know, there's about, I would say, about 10 someone people in this industry currently. I'm one of the 10. Okay. And I'm fairly new. I thought maybe, you know, extra at the very least. At the very least. Not one person called me.

which is interesting because I know the director of the film and I've worked with Dwayne. Like I've done a few things with The Rock. Right. So, and now Li-E. So it's kind of like, that's interesting. Yeah. So then I think because I made a TikTok about it and I was just kind of complaining for the fun of it. But I was also kind of like, hey.

Hey, by the way. And then they did end up sending me reads for background characters, all men, by the way. It was coconut farmer, angry coconut farmer. and fishermen. Fisherman. Fisherman number three, actually. And I wanted to be the fisherman. So they really had you typecast. Right.

They really were like, well, a man who does hard physical labor, obviously. And I think it's based off my builds. So basically they were like, yeah, like, just read these. And now looking back, I feel like they only did that because I bitched about it online. And they were like, duh, give this bitch fisherman. And then obviously I didn't get anything clearly because I'm still here doing this, obviously. And so my fisherman, my role didn't take off like I thought it would. No, no.

But I did want fishermen because he had three lines, whereas the other guys had one. Right. Didn't pan out. No. But I thought I nailed it. When I did the self-tape, I was like, I nailed those three lines. They made a huge mistake. I think so.

If you had played one of those roles, it would be memorable. I don't remember the fisherman from that at all. Yeah, exactly. And you know what? We're going to forget him again when we see the live action. Totally. If it'd been you, people would remember. I do have a fear, though, because I did get a read for, like, anime, like, voiceover.

Yes. For an animation. But it was an audition, like, three, four years ago, and they asked me if I could sing. And I was like, no. I'm not tone deaf. I just, like, can't sing. I wouldn't say I could sing at all. Right.

And so they were like, okay, perfect. We need you to sing for a minute straight. Acapella and then do these few lines. And the description of the character and everything was very vague and nondescript because I think looking back now, now that Mwana 2 is out, I know it was for a role in Wanda 2 and I know it was for like a newer character they had in Wanda 2. The song she sings, you're fucking nuts. I can't sing that shit.

But also I was like when I did the tape for just the few lines they gave me and then I sent in the singing tape. I for real was thinking to myself, they're never going to call me again. They're going to blackball me when they see how bad I am at singing. No. Yeah, I think so. And so obviously I didn't get that one either. So they didn't tell you what you were auditioning for.

They didn't say anything. It was all yeah, they said it was like and I've heard they do this with like huge releases. Like they kind of cloak them under other things. So there was a description of the character but it was at the time it was a two-headed bird.

that was an old woman and I said, how is an old woman a bird? That feels like just a mean thing to write to me. Right. And so it was like a mean old woman bird

with two heads and then they're like basically it's just like bitchy. They're being mean to each other. Right. They kind of are at odds. Back and forth.

Yeah. Yeah. So I was like both heads. Like that was what the lines were and then they wanted me to sing for a minute. And I did to be fair, I think I picked a song that was really hard.

I picked the song song, Songbird. Well, so they asked you to sing just anything. Yeah, they said any. I think as long as it's somewhat recognizable and acapella. That's really hard. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean.

And then they said nothing, like nothing from a musical or anything. They wanted it to be like a modern-ish song. Yeah. Of some kind. Again, very vague instruction. Yeah. And I don't know how to sing, like I said. And I asked my cousin to help me because he's a very good singer, a very talented

singer. And he grew up in church singing and everything. So he knows a lot about music. And so he was like going through takes with me and like just he's like, just have like just sing something for me and I've never been that nervous in my life than to sing in front of someone singing is really nerve-wracking I know and I know you said you've done musicals yeah and how do you like singing I mean I haven't sung for a long long time I mean I feel like you're way better than me no no no I I don't think I can sing anymore but it's it's very yeah it's a very very disconcered nerve-wracking

yeah like I'll that's why I said I could get up and tell wiener jokes but I cannot sing in front of other people me it makes me so nervous and there were a couple times where my cousin was like recording he's like i'm just going to record you um so you get used to being recorded while while you sing and then we'll just like stop it after every take and then we can pick the best ones i was like okay and there were some takes where like he would start and then about two seconds in he'd stop and be like that's terrible let's start over that's horrible don't you someone i'd be like i didn't even sing i think good confidence building what we call that yeah i had a real mr miagi situation going on.

You know what I mean? I was like, what does this have to do with karate? That's why I felt. Challenging. Good Lord. Yeah, well, you like a challenge. But I am looking forward to acting.

I will say, with all the bumps I've had, I'm very excited. Yes. To keep going. I want you to have a great experience. Another fun fact. It says you originally wanted to be an opera singer

and studied classical voice at University of Washington. Speaking of singing. I can't sing. I thought about it for like a quarter note. Bally boom. Very funny. Dad joke. But I did.

No, I, like I sang in the musicals in high school. I went to college. I took singing lessons. I was one of those kids. And I studied with one of the teachers at the University of Washington in the opera department. I was terrible. Let's just put it. Get that right out of the way, first of all.

And did it had pity on me. Because I think it was weird because I was coming from this very special acting program that was at the school. And I was also trying to do this other thing. And they were like, well, he's an actor, right? Yeah, but he wants to be a singer too. He was like, well, wait a minute. You should be a jack of all trades.

All of direct of all trades. It would be good. If only I could be a coconut farmer. An angry, an angry coconut farmer or a fisherman. Yeah. Well, you'll get there one day. Someday I'm going to get there. Hopefully your career takes off soon.

Fingers across through. My fingers are crossed. but it was really fun and that was really going to be my thing and then literally I was on my way to New York and I auditioned for Dune in Seattle with a casting agent there, a casting lady and they took and showed the tape

to David Lynch in L.A. and they flew me down and they met me and I chitty chatted. I didn't know what I was doing and I screen tested and they were like okay you're the guy and I was like this is really I was like of course I'm the guy you know at the time you're like well this is how it works Right? They pull you out of like a hat and then they throw you and I'm like and you know,

I'm coming to find out of course that's not how it works at all. That's so cool though. It was wild. Okay, opera singer. That's Udub, right? Yeah, you dub, like huskies. Huskies, yeah. Purple and gold. Period.

Well done. Yeah. My sister went to the University of Oregon. I'm sorry. Big rivalry. Great school. Yeah. No, great school.

No, but that's fun. I like that. Udub's a great school too. Yeah. And they got a great football program too. Yes, they do have a really good. Do you go back and watch games at all? I went back to recently.

Yeah, yeah. I went back and watched one of the games. They're really good. You know, they're really good. And we got a tour through the, through like the locker room area and then the weight room area. And I was like, I mean, it's like pro level. I don't know what pro level is, but I was like, this is incredible.

I know the money they're funneling in those programs now. Oh, my God. It's no joke. It is no joke. Yeah, they are like pros now, essentially. Yeah. Now with all the new rules and everything. Are you a sports fan?

Yeah, I am. What do you like? Yeah. Well, I watched football. I love Seahawks being from that area. I remember a rooting demand in 76 when the franchise started. Love. Big Caryl fan?

Yeah, I like Pete Carroll. Love. He brought a great energy. Yeah, he led a dynasty over there for a while. And it's just, you know, it's in the town. See, I mean, I went to school with UW was it. I was in Seattle for five years. It's not my hometown, but it's something, it's a town I'm close to.

Yeah. And they really, really get behind their team. the 12s. They do. Yeah, the fans are really an important part of that franchise. Yeah. So I like that. And then I'm kind of a fair weather sports, you know, like I watch the World Series, of course.

Yeah. I mean, you're like, because you've got to do that. And same with basketball. And then I grew up as a golfer. I played a lot of golf. Yeah, I was really cool. You can see why I was Mr. Popular on the golf team. Golf's real cool now.

Yeah. You see a lot of young people are golfing now. When I was young, it was not cool. They were like big nerd. Yeah, it's a big nerd. You're golfing. But we did have cheerleaders. Oh, love.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, they had two cheerleading squads. And so they would come. For golfing? Yeah, for golf. There was a cheerleading squad for baseball. There was a, all the sports had a cheerleading squad. And so they would come out.

This is at the height in my high school. Oh, in high school. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was serious. Real supportive school. I love that. Yes, they were big on that.

And I was like, why do you have cheerleaders? Because, you know, golf is like, can't really speak. It's quiet. Very quiet. So they were very quiet cheerleaders. I don't think they had one cheer. They just sort of look each other like... They're just there going...

Really quiet. I think that's a fairweather fan comment you made, I think, is real. My dad played in the NFL for like a bit back in the day. That's impressive. Yeah, from like 2000 to 2002. Okay. He was on the Arizona Cardinals. But my dad didn't play football at all growing up.

He played... He started playing in junior college. and then was walking around. When he was just walking around on campus, my dad's, my dad's 6-6, so my dad's a big dude. And so he was walking on campus, and then his coach, like in college was like, do you play football? And he was like, no, I've never played football. And so he's like, okay, like, you should definitely join the team.

And so my dad played at the junior college for a couple years and then transferred to Western Texas A&M, played there for two and then got drafted, like seventh round, right before Mr. Irrelevant. So, you know, Mr. Relevant is... Kayak gets my flight, hotel, and rental car right, so I can tune out travel advice that's just plain wrong. Bro, Skycoin, way better than points. Never fly during a Scorpio full moon.

Just tell the manager you'll sue. Instant room upgrade. Stop taking bad travel advice. Start comparing hundreds of sites with kayak, and get your trip right. Kayak, got that right. So anonymously, obviously, the very last person picked in the draft. Yeah. My dad got picked right before him.

Before him, so he's fine. He's good. Honestly, he kind of sucked. My mom was like, I wish he got picked as Mr. Irrelevant because, like, the guy who, the very, like, one of the guys that was Mr. Irrelevant, he, like, they throw this big parade and son to, like, celebrate him as if he's just as important as the first guy. Sure, sure. And my mom's like, well, he didn't get any of the free shit and he was right before the last guy.

Damn. The timing couldn't have been worse. Damn. Well, the fact that he played in. That's really impressive. I think so. That's the top of the, of the war. Right. You don't get any higher than that. I know. I tell my dad that all the time because a lot of times he's like that about it. But I was like, that's an incredible experience to have and not many people do. But that being said, my fiance also played college football for a long time. I didn't want to go to the pros. Yeah. Also a big dude. But both my fiance and my dad are the same. And in terms of fair weather sports fans. Like they love watching sports. Like they really do enjoy it. But they're not like, like you said, they like World Series and made finals, fun stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like. It's kind of like. It's kind of like. It's kind of like. It's kind of like. It's kind of like.

that and oftentimes I mean I love having it reminds me probably when I was younger because there was sports were on all the time when I was a kid and you just sort of walk through the room and you just sort of having the background you're like it's sort of comforting somehow yeah that's so real I agree my mom's a 49er fan so our kind of rivals with you yes yes I'm sorry we can't continue this interview and that's the end of this interview by the way no so nice to speak well it was a joy until you know you brought that moment but speaking the subject of sports my next fun fact for you it says you worked for a golf course greens

groundskeeper in the summers growing up in yakima what i when you say nerd you i was a capital n right there i know every fact is more nerd nerd nerd it just keeps pointing in that direction the wiji board says nerds it goes there oh yeah well it was you know it was it was actually a great job i got to say because you're outdoors started a little early for you know because it was i was high school into college. So I had to be there at 6 a.m., which was, you know, sort of put the kibosh on some of the late-night activities. But it was really nice to get up in the morning and it was nice to be in the sun all day, outside, really beautiful surroundings. Golf course is very lovely, you know. And yeah, and it was really, and I worked with some very eccentric. It was kind of amazing because there were these old timers

that were there, you know, and they all had stories. They had crazy stories. There was one guy. His name was red. That wasn't his real name, but it was red. of course and he always kind of hitched up when he was a good old boy like this and he was a good old boy like this and the whole thing with the hat and you know the whole thing the trucker hat and I remember he had a wallet that would sort of stick half out of his back pocket yeah and it looked like you'd taken two slabs of dried roast beef and stuck them together and then there was a bunch of stuff inside and I looked at it said that can't be a wallet it's like because you take it out and it's like it's a sandwich it's like a sandwich it's a foot long rice it was like this is

amazing but just stuff like that you know you have this great like memories of these really eccentric characters that, you know, we all were in this. And, you know, you have a lunch together and you sit around, you talk, and you get to know each other, you know, it was kind of cool. What a fun job to have. It was fun. It's random, but very fun. True.

And then my last fun fact about you is that in high school for Prank Week, you put up posters of Farrah Fawcett on the gym floor and switch classroom furniture. Of course. This is good. You went deep in this research. I really love it. So a rebellious nerve. Well, it was senior prank week.

So we had to come up with these ideas. And so the one, the genius prank, and I'm going to put it out there in case anyone is thinking. So our high school was laid out kind of, it was a two stories, two floors, kind of one long hallway, and in the middle was the cafeteria, right? So too long.

And they were sort of kind of mirrored with each other. So what we did is we took, we got in, we broke in, I had a crew, we had a key, we could open most of the rooms, and we took the desk, from the furthest away room on the lower part of the you know of the of the of the floors yeah and we moved it and we had an elevator because we got the kids that had broken legs and we got the elevator so we could use the key and we moved it all the way to the upper floor of the

furthest away point and we just switched the desks like this and did and then we took the ferrafasa posters because this was 1997 okay so fairer phara fossa you know she was like she was the one yeah yeah she was like on on um she was like, what is it, on Wayne's world, is you guys like, Heather Locke, Heather be thy name. She was like her thing. So it was Farah Fawcett. We took posters of her and then we shillacked them over the school emblem in the middle of the cafeteria. Damn, you slacked them too? Yeah, we put it with, we took, we took a glue water combination to put it down, which was actually easy to get off. And by the time the kids got to school, the janitors had

been busy and they like had already removed the posters. Damn. Yeah, I know. I was very sad. But the desks all day long they had disrupted the school which was the important thing to do. That was the important part. And it wasn't vandalism we just moved things around.

Did something silly. Yeah, you know. You just did a little silly. Yeah, just kids. Yeah. We didn't have social media. We didn't have things

to take our minds. We didn't have, you know, phones. We had to make our own fun, all right? That's what I'm trying to say. It doesn't sound that fun now but at the time it was hilarious.

It was a lot of fun. Yeah. All night. We were up all night. So proud of ourselves. I honestly get that now because I just turned 30. So now,

Well, in TikTok years, I'm over the hill. Yeah, I'm sorry. TikTok years, two steps from the grave, me. Yeah, yeah. So like when... What's next? God, retirement, hopefully. I'm clocking out, you're clocking in. Hopefully your big break comes to. You, thank you. Thank you. I'm here. People to see this. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. But I was talking about this with my friend the other day because there was so many things that I've shifted drastically, obviously, with the invention of self-

phones and social media and everything like that. And I feel like my generation was probably one of the last ones to have childhood and high school with, yeah, with no phone and no social media or anything like that. And honestly, I'm like grateful for it. Yeah. Like now I have brain rot to a level that is terminal, I think. It's clinical at least. At this point, yeah, I have no choice. Those bugs are embedded in my brain. Yeah. They're in there and they're in there. It's okay. Make, make yourself busy. That's fine. Yeah. But I was like telling my. friend the other day I was like I'm honestly really glad that I had a most of my childhood including my teen years like with no phone no social media yeah it makes me

sound a hundred when I say it but it's very true like I feel like I had a lot of developmental milestones that maybe people are missing out on now because everybody's on their phone and everything's so easy now to look up because when I was I was like telling a story like this on the show the other day that I had to do I went through a really weird hyperfixation phase and when I was a child so one of my hyperfixations was the Titanic. And so, like, I've already said this. Like, I just, like, needed to research everything about the Titanic.

Right, right. Just needed to download it. Yeah. For why or what, I'm not too sure. Yeah. No, I think it's, I mean, I get it, right? It's fascinating because you think of how could it have happened? Right.

And it was like everything, all the wrong things happened at one point. You get it. So you're like, how do you? You're speaking my language. Pull that apart. Yeah, absolutely. How can I not be. in situation like that.

Right, exactly. So I'm going to study it and know. Exactly. Don't do this. And prepare. Yeah. And I think most of my fascinations were with things that involved like the hubris of man, really.

It's just like really thinking you're bigger than the program. I feel like I was super invested in stuff like that. I was like, how could you ever think that you could get on that and think nothing bad was going to happen? Like me thinking like nothing bad would ever happen to me if I was younger at the time, if I was around at that time, I'd be like, well, I'm just, I guess, built different. I wouldn't have gotten on the type of. Yeah, yeah. I would have saw it. I said no, that's going to sink probably.

This is a disaster in the making. Yeah. Yeah. So I had a very weird hyperfixation thing as a child, but when I was really into things like the Titanic and I was at like my grandfather's house, I would to look it up because I had no computer or anything like that, I would use the encyclopedias. Yeah. And I talked about those recently and there were some younger people online that were like, what are those? Yeah, yeah. And I was like, I'm a thousand. I'm a million years. old. Oh no. Encyclopedia. There used to be the Encyclopedia Britannica. I think that was everyone had one in your house. Yeah, people used to sell them door to door. Well, you know, it used to be, and this is an old reference. There was a show called Laughan, thousand years ago, and it was irreverent and kind of young comedy. And one of their phrases, they would always say is, look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls. Look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls. Now, Funkin Wagnalls was actually the name of the Encyclopedia. With a fucking waggnels?

Genius marketing. I'm just like, who comes up with that? I'm like, I said, that's fit. Yeah, exactly. And now you're never, clearly it was very impactful because you're still. It's a bug right in here. It's still in there. Yeah.

I was like, you guys have no idea what it was like to have to pick one out and then look it up. And then there's not that much information in there. No. No. I need more. Did you have any special interests when you were younger? I was a big reader. Oh, love.

Yeah. Any faves? genre. You know, it's all the classic one, the Hardy Boys, you know. I like the three investigators. I would actually read, my parents had the Readers Digest

Condensed Books. I was like, okay. And I would literally have hungry for stuff to read. I would like pull one down and I would go like, what's it? Oh, Papillon.

What's this? Or Papillon. What is that? And so I read, but it wasn't the whole story. Oh, yeah. The condensed version. It was like the cliff notes.

Yeah, she was like, ah, damn. I got to go find this and read it for real. God, edged by this. The reader's digest is edging me again. And itching me again. Man, you're really not beating those nerd allegations. You said I was itching to read something.

I have gotten to the age. I've gotten to the age where I just let it all kind of hang out. It's all good. See, this is what you have to look forward to. I'm looking for it. Honestly, I'm there. I'm already there with you honestly. That's one of the things I love about you. Yeah. I'm like, I'm real old. Right there. It's all right there. Here I am. I know. The first thing, honestly, at this point would have been Like when you ask me, what is that? And I said it's electrolytes just trying to keep my hydration up.

That's me getting old. I love that. I was just talking about this. That you being practical. That too. And health conscious. Yeah, like tiredness now that I'm older is just like, it'll ruin my whole fucking day. Yeah.

I don't get a really good night's sleep. Secret ingredient right here. Yeah, what's in there? It's vitamin C-O-F-F-E-E. Sorry. That was such an old man joke. It's old man. Do you see how I leave?

you know that? I'm like, yeah, baby. And you got me. Oh, man. I yearn for that. I can't wait. To just be saying things. When you're older, you could just say anything. You could just say anything. And people go, yeah, because you're older. Yeah. That's so too. Pass. Just keep moving. Keep moving, old man. Keep moving. I can't wait for that. I was talking about this the other day. I was like explaining. I think my sister and I were talking about, but I was talking about how like, because a lot of, I have another podcast with my sister and a lot of our audience members are like, there's a good portion of them that are our age, but a lot of them are a lot younger. And so like when we talk, I was like, you guys don't get it. Like you're going to get to an age where you'll say things out loud like, I can't eat that.

I have to work tomorrow. Like you'll literally say things like that out loud and mean it. Like you'll be like, I can't. I have a busy day tomorrow. I can't eat that. I'll be up all night. I'll have to sit in the recliner. Yes.

I ask it reflux. Yes. You know. like to stack my pillows up so I can't. I know what am I going to do? Don't start with prunes. I'm just saying kids don't prunes no. That's a dead giveaway. My godfather. Now you're going to tell me a story about prunes aren't you? No, please don't. But not about that. Don't. Don't. Not about prunes. Okay. But my my godfather did say once like he was like if I could do any kind of reverse aging. I wouldn't make myself younger. I would really. I would really.

reset like my food clock. So like I wouldn't be allergic to anything. Nothing would upset my stomach. You could eat anything. Yeah, I would just reset that. So I could eat whatever I want. Wow, that's a really interesting idea. I know. I was like, huh. Because when I first heard that I was like in my early 20s and I was like, what fuck does that mean. Now that I'm older, I'm like, oh my God, what I would give. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What I would give to reset my food clock 10 years. Yeah. I love that idea. I can't even have anything with a little too much heavy cream. Otherwise, it's curtains for me. It's curtains for you. It's curtains for you. It's curtains, Batman.

You know what's good about getting older? You have reference points. So many. And, you know, the audience is not going to be like, what the hell? But it's like, to me, it's just like it was yesterday. It's like, you know, Batman and Robin. I mean, come on. I mean, yeah, I made, I think it was, I don't even fucking remember.

I think I made like a river sticks joke once. Like, I just said someone look like the fairy men on the river sticks. Oh, okay. I just made it that joke. I made a Dante's Inferno joke once. And then young people are like, uh-huh. No. Because they don't fucking get it.

Only in Italy. You can do it in Italy. They know Dante. It's Italian. They'll get it. But yeah, you're right. Yeah, but I can't wait. I yearn for that time where you could just say anything.

Yeah. And they're like, well, he's old. It's okay. It's okay. It's fine. He's old. It's good. It's good.

Go hang amongst your own kind. Okay. Okay. I think I would reset. If I could reset anything, I would reset my knees. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. I think that's a great idea.

I could use that now. Yeah. That would be the thing. When I was young, I tore my, I tore my ACL. I tore all the ligaments in my knee because I was an athlete growing up. So I tore all of them when I was like 14. That's a hard recovery. Yeah, it was pretty rough.

I was like nine, 10 months total in recovery. But I was like playing sports full time, like at the time I recovered. So it was like it was a lot. But I remember when that happened to me, I, I immediately, because in my head I was, I'd always thought, I'm going to go to college for sports. Like I'm going to go on a scholarship. Right. And then when I get there, I'm going to find something else that I love. When I tore everything in my knee, I was like, okay, fuck sports, first of all.

This is not forever. Have to redo it. But because I tore all that in my knee, you know, the scar tissue and everything builds up. My physical therapist over 10 years ago goes like, Make sure you do your stretches and everything. Otherwise, you know, it's going to be a little hard. I'm like, yeah, yeah, when I'm 14. I'll be fine.

My mobility was so shit on my bad knee for well into my 20s. And then my man now is a certified personal trainer. So he helped me like fix my mobility. But I would do the same thing. I would reset the strength on my knees as well. Yeah. Yeah. Especially my left one. It's crazy.

I know. It's like, I remember going to, not that long ago. I mean, going to the gym. And you, you'd see like an old, you know, older person at the gym, you know, and you're just like, why do they even bother? It's like, what are they really trying to prove? You know what I'm like? And now I'm like, good for you.

I'm happy to see you here. I give them like, it's great you're doing this. You know what I mean? Because they're trying. They're trying. You know, and I'm like, that's going to be me one day. It's all good. You know.

God, what's the point? What's the point? That awful. Just like, get out of my way old man. God, get off the machine. you're not even using it. You're not doing it right. Where's your range of motion?

Come on. Oh my God. Oh, my God. That's so funny. Go get the five. I don't have been so much fun with you. This is crazy. Well, thank you so much for coming and hanging out with me today.

You kidding. This is really, really nice. I think you're a hoot. You're a hoot. I think you're so fun. And I can't wait to be the adopted child in the family and overcompensating season two.

It's going to happen. It'll be like a whole blindside situation. You guys just adopt me. I play football. Yes. You know what I mean? Like I learn how to read and everything like that. Yes.

Turns out none of it's true. But we... You're the daughter I always wanted. Right. We settle that lawsuit way after the fact. It's not going to happen. Yeah. Yeah.

We could do like one of those. I think that would be awesome. Yeah. Take my notes to Benny, if you will. I will. He's going to hear from me. My God. Yeah, exactly.

Thank you so much for coming on the show. Cool. I adore you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for my fun questions. Of course. That was really great.

my god of course anything for you i do have a final question oh i'm ready um if you have any advice for any aspiring actors or like fespians if you will uh yes um and just like you know not just especially now because i feel like the uh industry feels almost impossible to penetrate yes not that it felt any easier back then but i think even now with as much exposure as people get it can feel a little daunting and intimidating yeah um just if you have any any advice for aspiring artists The only thing I can think about it, well, a couple things. One is you have social is a great way to just do your stuff and get it out in front of people, you know, and have them respond. I mean, again, Benny's a really good example.

Creating characters and kind of developing a following. And then, you know, people pay attention to that. And then they go, maybe, or he's got the energy to, you know, actually tell his story. So I think, you know, that kind of goes hand in hand with. just the idea of where I always say just work you know what I mean if you can just get get on the stage get get in front of a camera get something student film and the third thing is find find your find your group find a find a community yeah a couple people have come to town and they're like what am I sorry I said find a class yeah find a class just and just go in and you know monitor

find a good class and and start to make connections with the other people in the class because they'll have information and you'll have information and pretty you can share this back and forth and you build this community that then can support they can support each other yeah absolutely and so that's and that those are just you know and if you have a passion for it and I love for it you've got to keep doing it yeah for for no money at all if it's if that's what it takes because that's what I think a lot of people have done for a long time. Yeah. Do it for no money.

I think that's how, I mean, I think that's proof that you really, really love what you do. Like, especially as an artist. I've said, I've talked about that before with friends too who are in the same industry, whether they're like a content creator like me or an actress first, how that kind of understanding that the whole point of art is to not necessarily profit. It's to like, it's to put art in the world. Like the whole point is to create. Yeah, you have to do something.

Yeah. A voice and you have to, you know, get it out there. And again, with social, it's a positive way to use social, it's just to use that as a way to like, hey, I'm gonna hear something that's important to me or find someone and do a little short film. Just anything, just your point of view, your perspective, your vision, put it out there.

What do you gotta lose? I love that you have said that, especially as an OG, like you're such a successful actor. I love that you're advising people to utilize social media too, because some people say the opposite. They're like, I hate social media, I hate the crossover. But I think it's a beautiful thing.

reach yeah I think it's well and I a lot of actors I've had on the show that like started acting well before social media were like it used to be a lot harder to like put yourself out there and now it's like easier to yeah the opportunities were we're not as yeah and you couldn't do your own thing right exactly you didn't have a platform on which you could like show your stuff yeah totally so well thank you so much I fucking love you're the best I can't wait to grow old together ah I'm so excited and thank you so much for shouting out Jennifer Pritcher her twin peaks VHS set. JPR. JPR, the one and only JPR. We love her here. Thank you so much to all of you for tuning into this episode of the comment section show. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Kyle McLaughlin. Where can everybody find you, Kyle?

Oh, down at the supermarket. I'll be there, there selling my stuff. We have a couple things, you know, fallouts coming. Very exciting. And I do a podcast now called What Are We Even Doing? And that's been, that's an eye heart, But everywhere, and we do interviews, and we're going to do you coming on. Yes, I am.

We're going to have a chit-chat as well. Yes. That's been a lot of fun. So, yeah, I'm just doing stuff. Yeah, I was like, everybody who wouldn't know you is probably like nine. So that's probably why. They were just born yesterday. So that's probably why.

Everybody else knows you, though. I have to get a Fisher-Price thing that we're doing like a, you know. Yeah, you got to get on some Miss Rachel stuff. Yeah, I got to that nine-year-old. Yeah. Used to be trying to get on backyardigans, but it's really, really tough. you know, because they sing. Yeah.

God, it's so cut throat over there. Well, thank you so much to my amazing guest, Kyle, for coming on the show. Thank you all so much for tuning in. Don't forget new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms with the video list for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Kyle McLaughlin. Thank you so much to all of you, and I'll see you next week.

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