The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - RACHEL PEGRAM IS A HOOT | Episode 241

Episode Date: September 30, 2026

The hilarious Rachel Pegram is on the show this week!! Drew and Rachel talk about doing standup in front of a railroad track along the LA river, why being a good singer is a curse, bombing on stage in New Zealand, getting an SNL tattoo as form of manifestation, hot Dr. Pepper, and so much more. Follow Rachel on IG: https://www.instagram.com/iamrachelpegram/Follow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/?hl=en Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I was not good at writing. I didn't actually understand what a sketch was. It was really, if I, the way, yeah. How were you writing them initially? No. No. I don't really feel comfortable. Next question.

Yeah, next question. Welcome back to another episode of the comment section show, starring me your favor, but he knows me who cares about me. On to the guest. Today, we have the iconic, the legendary, the hilarious. Rachel P.gram, who! Welcome to the, the show. Thank you for having me. Oh, my God. I'm so happy to have you. Oh, happy to be here.

I think you're a hoot. All the clips I've seen. I think you're a hoot. Damn. So obviously I got to have every hoot on my show. Oh, you're trying to collect the hoots. Yeah, I got to collect the hollers. I'm hollers. I'm hollered. Yes, yes. So I need a hoot to my holler. You got to collect the hoot for your holler. Yeah. I'm so happy to have you. I think you are hilarious. We were just talking offline just now about you working with my producer Amanda. Yes. Who I talk about often on the show, even though she's never on camera, I do talk about her often. Okay. Because at the end of the show, I will have some fun facts for you.

And I always tell people if they're not fun, I counted a strike against her. So her job's on the line, no pressure. Okay, no word. We'll get to that. No, that's all right. But I know you. That's okay. I'll lay it down on YouTube.

If somebody got to get fired today, that's just part of the process. Yeah, that's okay. But we were talking about how you did stand up for one of her short films, right, Amanda? Short films, which was a very unique experience you were telling us. Absolutely. It was sort of at a venue that was like, by a river, but like, not the LA River, but maybe. But a river.

Certainly. And then a lot of concrete. And then it was also, it was a by a railroad track behind it. And then the green room was inside a school bus. That was rocking a lot. And then people were also on top of the bus. And they were like, go in the bus. And that's where you're going to hang out with me, everybody.

And I was like, I am not going to be in the bus. Well, see. I was on that show with Taylor Ortega too. So I said, Taylor, what are we doing? Who we love. And she has also been on the show. And we love her dearly. That is,

but I'll tell you what, the show is really fun. Yeah, but I genuinely remember having a great set. And I remember being a fun time, but I was like, I don't know what this is. Well,

you say, well, thank God we're having a fun time. Yes. Because this is a unique situation I found myself. Yeah, and that's honestly,

I feel like the L.A. experience in show business. Of course. Sometimes you find yourself on a school bus. Sometimes you're going to be on the bus doing crowd. With Taylor Ortega. Yeah,

with Taylor-Oan. And you say, and I'm actually, oh, I'm in the right place. I think you're sort of looking at your life, he said, this is beautiful. I'm crying.

Well, speaking of, I would love to know how you got into comedy in the first place. I know you're an improv girl. Yes. I know you're a tried and true. Amanda said, she's improv legend. Wow. A UCSB, UCSB?

UCSB, for sure, for sure. Improve legend. So I'd love to know how you got into it. How you got into entertainment, comedy, acting, all of it. Well, I got started. I wasn't, I wasn't looking to. to do comedy actually. I was looking to do musical theater.

No way. Yes, that's what I went to school for. And you can sing? Yes. Oh, I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. Well, yeah, well, yeah, okay. I'm so jealous. Oh, I love it. No, but it's nice. It's nice to not be able to sing. You think? I think so.

You said, don't make me. I think it gives you a freedom. Once people find out, then they want you to sing for stuff. You know how many times people try and pin me out to sing. They're like, Rich, why don't you sing right now? Why don't you like sing a little something? Do it, do it. I was at an Italian restaurant.

There's a piano. And then I'm with my friends and her parents. And her parents are like, Rachel, why don't you go sing something? I said, what? A jazz standard? Attention, attention. No. They're like, do you know any Frank Sinatra?

I was like, every word? No, let me pull something up. Yeah. It's heavy as the head. You know what I mean? Heavy as the head. I'm jealous. But so you're a musical theater girl.

I was a musical theater girl to start. Okay, too. Do you love Broadway? Yes. What's your favorite Broadway show? Company. That's a great one. That is such a good one.

I'm me getting chills. That's such a good one. I would say close a second into the woods, but I'm a real Sondheim girl. Me too. I like Sondheim. I know, you know what, he deserves more love Sondheim.

As if he's not one of those too. But there are a lot of people who hate Sondheim musicals. What do you mean? They're not fucking with it. Why? I think they just find it annoying when they, like my sister, I'll use my sister as an example.

I'll throw her under the bus. But she says she finds it annoying because it's like talking singing. It's just like every word is being sung as opposed to like. You don't like the human experience. Yeah. Oh, you don't like magic and whimsy. Oh, sorry.

You're not a fan of that? You don't like the intern, looking within. Looking within. Yeah. You don't like introspection. You're not a big fan. Yeah. Oh, it's thinking it out, figuring it out.

That's what's happening in a song time song. No, for real. I had to, like, bully her and my mom to come see into the woods with me. Yes. I went into theaters. And then literally about 10 minutes in, my sister's like, they sing every word. Yeah. And I was like, shh.

Experience. Shh. She did that to me with Les Miss, too, when we went and saw it. She's like, they sing every word. I'm like, you can't ask me this every time. That's okay, though. I know. Even like my mom when we saw Deer Heaven and Hanson, I wish I know that movie got a lot of flack, obviously, because a 40 year old man was playing a 10 year old. Obviously, we know. We know. Right. And that was a choice. Yeah. That was a choice. That was a choice. But we watched. I remember my mom was like, is this a musical? But she was asking me so many questions

and we already missed my favorite song because she was late. And then I was like, you can't do this to me. You can't. You can't. Otherwise, I'm going to have to make you a seat over so I can watch the experience. Yes. That's just how serious I take Broadway. And you should and I appreciate that. And so you said company into the woods. Yes.

Yes. If you could be in any Broadway show, which one would you pick. Okay. And so this is going to be a pivot. It's Carolina change. Interesting. I really love that musical. I ran into it early on in my like time and I was like, I just think it's so beautiful. Oh, I love that. And it's so like sad. But I love, but I love, but I love. But I love. like a sad woman's journey. I agree. That's why I love the color purple. Yes. Yes. And specifically Cynthia Rebo when she sang at the Tonys. Oh. I'm here at the Tonys. Incredible.

2016, I believe. Yes. Yeah. I was I saw that. I saw that. I was I got a rush ticket. I was sitting on the side and I was just leaning over like a little toddler. I was like, oh my God. This is beautiful. So when you went into school, you were initially going to do theater. Yes. I was going to do Broadway and then unfortunately early on I saw improv show and that'll get you that'll change your entire life I'm honest to God it was like I got to do something about this and then off to a flame immediately yes immediately what about it did you love I just I don't know I think like you know it's interesting how there's like certain careers where you're like well that's a career that's a job that you can have yeah and in my mind it's like well Broadway's a job you can have that makes sense but I think

For a lot of people, they'd be like, that's not job. That's made up. But to me, comedy was that. So I was like, comedy's not a real job. You can't make any money doing that. And then it was like, well, also, it's interesting that I saw improv and I said you can make money doing that because they were never not making money. But it was like, oh, that's like a thing that you can actually do.

So then I was like, wait, that's kind of fun. And then I kind of got into the sketch group. And I think the thing that I liked so much about it was that I had agency. And I think that something about musical things. theater, like in terms of like just being a performer, it's like you're just kind of stepping into roles. And unless you like are so lucky to be the first one to debut a role, right. You're always going to be stepping into something that somebody else has done. That's such a good point. Yeah. I was like, the mold's been created. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like you maybe won't be able to make choices in the

same way because you might need to honor somebody else's performance. Like with like, Kristen Chinowith in Wicked, it's like, well, there's like certain parameters now that we've set. Like it's like Even Ariana Grande made a great performance, but like, Kristen Chinoweth made the mold. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's also there, which is nice, but yeah. So you liked that kind of like freedom. I think so.

I think I found that really, really amazing. And then so you did sketch comedy. Yeah. And like, did you write a lot of your own sketches? I did. Do you enjoy the writing or the performing or both? Is it kind of apples and oranges? It's definitely both now.

Okay. But then I was not good at writing. I didn't actually understand what a sketch was. it was really if I the way yeah how were you writing them initially no no no

I don't really feel comfortable next question yeah next question I don't know it's like I would think of something funny but then I wouldn't know how to like communicate it I see and so I'd be like I think that this is funny and then a lot of people would read it and say what is that

what does that mean what is that right right right and I'd be like Don't you see it? Yeah, you're like, catch the vision. Okay, just watch me do it. Yeah. Watch me do it.

Were you someone who loved attention growing up? For sure. Me too. I always like to, I love to ask performers because obviously the answer is pretty much always the same. Yeah. But you never know. Sometimes people are shy. Yeah, and honestly, or just trying or lying, right?

Or they lie to me and say, no, I hated attention. But I like, I like asking because I think when you talk to performers, you're like, well, yeah, obviously I love attention. And I think that's important to admit. Yes. when you want to go into this business. Like obviously I have to have some sense of vanity about me. Yeah, I'm gonna need the light. I'm gonna need it or also be sick.

Yep, yep, give me about 10 minutes. Yeah, thank you. I'm gonna need that. I was like telling my friend about this the other day, but I was watching, I have another podcast with my sister. And I was watching an episode that we filmed like three weeks ago. I haven't watched it, obviously. So I watched it.

I made myself laugh out loud with a joke I made because I forgot I made it. I laughed out loud. told my husband, Camere, I rewined it, played it again, laughed again. Like,

that's the type of shit I'm on, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that's beautiful. I think if no one else is going to laugh at you,

you gotta be laughing at you. You gotta think it's funny. It's got to be the funniest thing in the world to you. If it's not, it's not funny to anybody else. Exactly. And if it's like, I got one person cracking up.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But I love, and I, that's how I feel about your early sketch ideas. Like you're like, listen, I get it. Right. You know what I mean?

I just need the tools. I need to be able to flush it out a little bit more. Just give me a couple parameters and I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to figure out final draft eventually. I was like, I'm going to get in there. I'm going to be tapping. I'm going to be space, you know. I'm going to figure it out.

So when did you start moving towards stand up? Like was it kind of a natural progression or did you do improv for a while sketch and all that? I did improv. I mean, I guess I still do improv now, but improv was really like the base for everything. And then I did sketch and I kept doing sketch after college and with like an indie team. And then I started doing stand up after college. And that was and it was just like, you know, like a little bit here and there. Just like open mics.

And then honestly like I feel it only got more consistent with it once I like like right before I moved to LA is sort of when I was here. Like I feel like that was really when it was like, okay, this is really what I want to be. And what do you love about stand up like specifically? I mean, I think the same kind of thing that like drew me to comedy at large is like the autonomy of like taking your idea and trying it out and like showing it in that particular way. I just like I love the like connection with the crowd. And I feel like I, my favorite thing when I do stand up, well, obviously is your favorite thing is to crush at large. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, have a great show.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for everyone. Right. But I would say maybe my second favorite thing is like when that's not. happening but there's um there's there's there's like three girls in the audience and they're having the time of their life and I'm like yes you got I found them I said they're here because like sometimes you do a show and it's like people haven't caught the vision and I'm like that's okay that's okay I know I'm not necessarily maybe fitting in the mold that you want um you didn't come up here and think that that's what was going to be me and so then it's like when I see those

girls like it's also is often a lot of little weirdo girls yeah and then so i say i love that yeah there was an absolute little freak weirdo girl that i and i mean that respectfully that ran up to me after a show recently and she was like i'm not on instagram but can i give you my email and will you tell me whenever you're around and i said yes sure queen why not yes i'll take it down we'll do something sure give me that email we'll pass it along to somebody that reminds me of um cat cohen You know, Kat? Yeah. I fucking love her stand-up, too.

Just like I love yours. And I love women with very unique perspectives on comedy especially. But just the world at large. And, like, I did a show with Kat actually where I was on the card with her, too, the ticket with her too. And she performed before me. And she was cracking me the fuck up. And I really told her, I was like, girl, that room did not get you the way that I got you.

Yes. Because the way that she made. jokes is so unique and so funny just like yours and that's why I think I love comedy like that when it's like borderline isolating but to whom right I was like I was I'm he he heing and ha haing the whole fucking time yes it's like I I love that you have little freak weirdo girls that you're that gets you 1,000% it's either them or it's absolutely strange sim men what the hell and I don't know where they came from but they are die hard like just big fans.

They just be, they just be commenting on everything. And they just laugh. And they don't say anything strange to me, which all appreciate. Like a good boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like kind of sitting to the side.

They kind of know their place. And I'm like, thank you. Thank you. I don't want anything else. Don't do anything strange. Yeah, don't do anything. Don't bother anyone.

Exactly. Don't talk. Just sit there. Laugh. Yeah. Sit there, laugh, enjoy. Have a nice time. Yeah.

Tell your friends. Yeah. And tell them to do the same thing that you're doing. Pass it along. Yeah. What was like, what would you say was like a show you had where you're like, yeah, I think I'm gonna, I think I really love stand up. I think I really want to start doing this like more consistently.

Did you have like a show where you're like, okay, this, maybe this is a something I want to really lean into. Well, it's funny that like this, okay, this is an early, well, no. Well, okay. You know what? Well, yeah. So I, no, that was early. You know, I'm maybe not giving myself some credit.

It was definitely before I moved to Los Angeles that I really started doing stand-up because I'm remembering some shows that I did in New York that were there. I'd already been doing stand-up for a while. But this was like the first time that I had done like a larger set. Like I put together an hour. And like I think it was. just at a time where it's like I didn't know that I could do that. Yeah.

And I did and I remember being like because also with that show I incorporated some music. So I did like some comedic songs. And I remember that show really feeling like, oh, I think this, this feels like the kind of thing that I want to do. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Like that felt like the path. Yeah.

Absolutely. Well, it's blending your two loves, right? Yeah. singing and also comedy. Yeah. And I get what you mean about the freedom thing too because Caleb, obviously we have a mutual friend of Caleb, but he's been encouraging me to do stand-up forever. But like I did try it and it's really fun.

But I feel like I have so many things going on that I'm like, I'm going to put this down because I love stand-ups so much. Yeah. Like stand-up's been my favorite form of entertainment forever. Even more than like movies and TV shows, I love watching stand-up. I love watching comedy because I love to laugh. Yes. And it's funny because one of my comic friends told me they were like telling you a funny

joke is such a good payoff. You have such a good laugh. It feels good. Like when you get get me for real. Yeah. And I was, because I just love to giggle and I love to have a good time. But I, even when I did a baby five, I was like so nervous about memorizing a lot of it. Like I was like, so I don't even know how to an hour is so unfathomable to me. Oh my God. Because even with the five, I was like struggling to remember all of my jokes. And I think I were, I, when I talked through with Caleb, I was kind of telling him, I think I, I liked more of the freedom I have with like kind of just going wherever with it yeah but obviously with with stand-up you need the guardrails to at least be able to know in what order you're going flowing because I like comedy that flows into the next joke kind of thing but that that was so difficult for me so I like I give

you like all the kudos in the world for doing an hour like holy fuck but every every comic is like a magician to me when they're able to do that because I just felt so like um I just want to I think it's when I honestly it's probably my fault because when I get in front of a mic I just want to ramble and then that makes me start rambling. I'm like, oh my God, I have to tell my jokes. And I have to, like, keep going back to the material. Like, that's what it feels like my brain's doing. But I think that that's important.

You think? You know what I mean? Like, I think that, like, sometimes when you're working out new material. Yeah. Sometimes, at least for me, I like to, like, say it, however, sometimes I'll keep telling a joke a little bit different for too long. But it's like, I think, like, sometimes I find, like, it's like you're doing it in front of a different audience

or you're feeling a different way about it. And, like, I don't know, like, because a lot of, especially stuff that's like a story for me. It's like I'm like finding the ebbs and the flows of it. Totally like the high points of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I feel like there's something that can be good in the ramble. That's true.

You know, like in terms of like figuring out what it is that you want, like what's really going to pop or like maybe something new inside of it that you wouldn't have done if you would like just stuck like strictly to what you would practice. That's true. I think part of me too was like, and I've said this before on the show many times that like I I love comedy so much like stand-up that I didn't want to find out the hard way I was bad. So like I didn't want, I didn't want to bomb. And every comic I was told is like, they're like bombing's part of it.

Like that is like it's part of the learning how to do it in the first place. Like you can't make it if you don't bomb. Listen. And bombing? What's been the worst time you've bombed? Oh my God. It's so, it's so vivid. Really?

It's as vivid. It's as vivid. It's as vivid as the railroad show. I feel it. As the school bus. I was in New Zealand. Ooh, okay. And I had been recommended by a friend for this like comedy club.

Well, I didn't know, first of all, though, I didn't know it was a club. I thought it was just like a regular, like a venue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like a club. Like a club club. Yes. So it was like, so it wasn't just like a place where they do. It was a club comedy club.

That's crazy. I'm giving this distinction because he was like, this is like an alt theater. And I was like, no. No. When I got there, I very much realized that it was not. Yeah, you're like, no, it's not. No. And everyone's like really serious.

Like there's a girl that's in a corner, standing in a corner, and she's like reciting her set to herself. Oh. There's like people who, they're like, going to. Like they're performing for the golden buzzer or something. Oh. The stakes couldn't have been higher. Me, I'm kind of like, what's going on?

Yeah. Where are you guys from? Nice. Yeah. And everyone kept being like, who, who told you about that? Who got you on this show? And I was like, that's my friend. I don't know.

You're being whimsical in there. Everyone's in there, like, stressing beyond belief. Really? Because I guess this is like a maker break-it show. Come to find out, there's like a guy in the audience. Everybody kept being like, oh, he's like the John Stewart of New Zealand. I said, what? Does that even mean?

And also, why is he here? He's like a big deal. And I was like, okay. I know, what is he here scouting for what? Right. Also, the John Stewart of New Zealand, I said, what role is that exactly? Political, mostly? Or, like, I'm confused.

Like John Stewart of today? Because he's pretty serious now. Yes. Or John Stewart. He's not really telling jokes anymore. No, no, no, no, no. Honestly, he kind of fell off that train earlier than some of us might have realized that. That's okay.

That's okay. He did a lot for 9-11 victims. That's so. And we love him for. for that. Thank you. Thank you, John Stewart. So, we never forget. But, um, although I kind of snuck up on me this year, but right. I agree. I agree. I was also blown away.

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Tough. I go up on the stage. I'm going through my set. It's like, it's like comedic silence. It's like a laugh track thing. That's crazy. Silence. You hear ice.

cubes in a drink. That's how silent it is. I'm hearing people like, I'm hearing a small shuffle. Like, I'm hearing, like, a tiny little, ding, ding, ding, ding. It was so bad. They did not, they were, there was only one bit where I got some laughs. Yeah. But I think they were mostly confused at that point.

And whatever, I'll take it. And I just kind of plow through. And then finally just. 30, my 30 minutes set of five minutes set. I just, I was like, you know what? Okay. And I was like, thank you so much. Guy comes out and he goes, she had some props, didn't she?

Okay, that's America. And then like, moving on to the rest of the set. I was like, oh, did they laugh? Dear God, of course, they're dying at him. Because he just railed into me. And he's like, and he's right. That was the layup. And he took that.

That was crazy. That's fucked up. That's fucked up for him to do that. Honestly, you know, he's never going to see me again. And I don't know who that man is. So honestly, take a job. Yeah. And he was like the MC.

Yep, yep, yep, yep. And so I did, it was so horrible. My mom was there. Didn't add that in. This is maybe the second time. No, that was the first time she ever seen me do stand up. Oh, no. Second time she's ever seen me do comedy, period.

I don't actually think she's seen me do comedy since then. So she has no idea. She's kind of like, oh, I hope this girl figures it out. Well, Sonia, she had fun. She had an interesting time. She was like, and I felt really bad. And then days later, I feel bad for you. They made that so uncomfortable for you.

I was at the airport. We're leaving. Yeah. Guy comes up to me, he said, I was at that show. I said, oh, he said, that was incredible. You were so funny. And I said, oh, thank you. my mind of saying, why don't fuck you didn't laugh?

I was gonna say, I don't fuck you laugh. Oh, so funny, you sat there in stoic silence. Oh, because you scared of everybody else not laughing. Why don't you laugh? Be brave. Coward. Be fucking brave and laugh.

You know what, they're gonna look at you too. And then we're gonna be together. That's funny. I didn't know you found it funny because not one of you laughed. You didn't say anything. Was it like, do you think it was intentional of the not laughing? Yeah. Like, do you think they were just being haters?

No, they didn't like me. No, they didn't like me. They didn't like the set. They didn't like what's going on. But I will say, it did make me realize that my set felt at that time, deeply American.

Oh, okay. You know, it was like a lot of American references. And you know, you'd be forgetting that people don't know about Rosa Parks and other countries. They're like, who the hell is that? Who is that?

Yeah. Yeah. The John Stewart of New Zealand's here. Right. And he should know. You would think he would know. I know who this is. Right.

I don't know who she is. Yeah. They're like, we don't know Rosa. Yeah. When I was on that same show with Kat Cohen, there was another comic on there. And I won't say who it was, only because I don't know if she would find, like, if she thinks this is bad. I didn't.

I thought it was funny. But, like, she was making a couple, like, bold jokes, which, like, we get laughs here and there. But then she would make one that was so, such a softball. And then they would laugh like they've never laughed before. And at one, they did, that's her a few times that her set. And then at one point, she goes, I don't fucking get this room. You guys are weird. You guys are fucking weird.

which was funny. That made me laugh. But then again, they didn't really laugh that hard. And then when we talked after, she goes, what the fuck is the deal with everyone out there? I was like,

I don't know. I can't get a good read on it either. So I was going to ask if that was like, if you've experienced that a few times, like a weird energy in a crowd. Oh, absolutely. Do you have like some cities that you're like, you guys are weird every time I come here?

I mean. Or do you have any faves? Any places like fave to do stand up in? I will say doing, I did some, I opened for Caleb a couple times. like in Texas. And I will say doing shows,

doing shows in Houston was really fun. Yeah, Houston's fun. I've done live, yeah, have I done live? Yeah, I did. I did live comedy shows in Houston. Yeah, they are fun. So fun.

Yeah, they are fun. The energy electric. Yeah, it's true. And it's like, I was in a really tiny venue too. So it felt like the energy was packed in there. They feel excited in a particular kind of way. I made a bunch of iron claw jokes at that show. And it was killing because they're from Texas.

It was fucking killing that crowd. And it was funny because I've said this before, but like this is when I was on tour with my sister. We were doing like live comedy. And we did three shows in Texas. We did Dallas, Houston, and Austin. Yeah. And so we went from Austin to Houston. And then we ended in Dallas before we left Texas.

And I remember we kept watching Planet of the Apes on the tour bus for some fucking reason. It kept coming on the TV. I don't know what it was, but we love that franchise. So we were watching them constantly. And we kept making this joke where like when Caesar like unites the apes. and he's like, Aves together, strong. Like, and then they repeat it to him,

and it's funny. So, like, when I would open the show, in Texas for some reason, the Planet of the Apes jokes were killing. Like, in Austin and Houston, kill, bitch, when I tell you, killing, I mean, killing. And then I went to Dallas.

And so it was an even bigger theater. And I remember my joke was basically like, this is like, Aves Together Strong. Like, that's me to you guys and you guys respond. And, like, I kept killing. I made one Planet of the Apes Jokes in Dallas. Not one laugh.

Not one silence. Silence in the theater. I remember being like, put that joke on the shelf. I'm not going to use that again. Sorry. And I'm abandoning that joke here. No worries.

Something that brought me joy. You're not into it. All right. No worries, no worries, no worries. Okay, so you guys hate fucking monkeys. Got it. I guess we'll jump. No worries, but that's okay.

Don't worry about that. You hate those animals. Heard, hurt, heard, heard, received. Received. That's all I was like, oh, not one. Not one. It felt like a, like, too. It's crazy.

So you like Texas. that's good. Houston. Houston is fun. Houston's a good time. And I'm from Texas too. Oh, fine. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so that must feel extra good then that your hometown is fun. Oh, my people. Yeah. Oh, thank God. My people love me. I die. Texan's tough, you know? Yeah. Hell yeah.

That's why do you have any that you're kind of like, this is terrible besides New Zealand, obviously, you know. New Zealand's haters. They're big haters over there. New Zealand is big haters. Yeah. Bob the drag queen told me that Italy is like he hates country and he'll never go back. Whoa. Italy.

Yeah. And he was like doing standup there as awful. They will not laugh at anything and they're so racist. I hate them. And I was like, okay. Right. Received her. I've heard that though.

And then Matea Lane was on recently too and he was telling us that he loves the Dutch, like the Netherlands. Oh. He's like they're so fun because they'll laugh. Even if they don't get it, they'll laugh. Wait. And they'll be like, that was so funny. Let me get over there.

Let me get over there. Let me go see. What's going on? Yeah, that's pretty nice. Do you have any that you're like, never. No thanks. cities. Not really.

That's good. I'm glad. No. There's nothing that's been too, too terrible. No. I love that. Okay.

Other than New Zealand. Other than Auckland. Oakland. Literally Auckland is on my list. What's been the coolest show you've done? Like where you're like, wow, this was fucking awesome. Oh, man. No, that doesn't make sense to bring up because that's, that's from, no, that's strange.

You bring up whatever you want. No, no, no, no. Just kind of thinking through. What's, what's been a real. really what's been a fun what's been a nice who who's been yeah oh i love your external processing yeah it could be yeah new york i mean new york in general's lots of really good yeah they're fun like bell house and union hall these are all i watched caleb at bell house yeah yeah it's a great venue. Oh, I love the Bell House. My first time ever going to Bell House was watching Caleb

and his whole show. And it was so fun. Yeah. And that was when I, um, at that same show, I bought all of Caleb's merch and like let everyone have it. And he was like, why the fuck would you show me up at my own show? Why would you do that to me? And I was like, well, you did too good. I had to do something. Right. I got to pull focus in some way. Uh-huh. Same. Just like if you get married, I'm going to announce I'm pregnant at the way. At the wedding. Yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Obviously. Of course. Yeah. T-D-T-T-T-T. T. I was like, oh, Drew really hasn't been drinking. I don't know if anyone's noticed.

But actually, guys, I have a bit of an announcement. It's like, first dance is happening. I too would like to say something if that's okay. What's like a big dream you have in comedy, entertainment, all of it? Like what this is the, I always say this is where we manifest. Yes. Like this is the place to manifest because a lot of my guests have had dreams come true. that they've spoken life into here.

Oh. So do you have any dreams, like big comedy dreams or movies, TV shows, whatever it is? I mean, yes. Yes. Yeah, I'm glad to hear it. I, and I do believe in manifesting. I will, I'll, I'll, a quick. Me too.

This is at a time when I wouldn't, okay, but I was, I was really into SNL. I was a big fan. and I, like, wanted to get a tattoo with my friend. I had this idea. I said, oh, what if I get this S&L tattoo? And she was like, yeah, I love that. That's awesome. And she said, and I'll pay for it because I was 18.

And I was like, great. So you're going to buy me this S&L tattoo. And then I got it. But when we went to the parlor, the tattoo artist was like, I think it should be in this font that I created. And I was like, oh, okay. I kind of was thinking in this font that I was interested in. That I picked for my tattoo on my body.

And he was like, no, I think that this will be better. And I was like, okay. But I was really like, you know, kind of like, and then my friend, she was also getting a tattoo, trouble glove. Oh, yeah, typical. She's getting a trouble club. Yeah, she's into music. And so I show her the stencil on my body, which I had chosen to put on my pelvis. Obviously.

And Lauren Michaels would want nothing different. Honestly, that's what he would want. And she was like, yeah, that's perfect. It looks amazing. And I was like, okay. No, for sure. Two dumb bitches saying exactly back and more. Yeah.

You like it? I like it. I like it. You like it? I love it. Yeah. And I was like, okay. I mean, I wanted the tattoo, but this just particular.

And I was like, you don't think it's too big? She was like, no, I think it's a nice size. It's huge, by the way. And it says live from New York. Okay. And it's massive. Right. Got that tattoo.

And on your pelvis. On my pelvis. I also said, well, I'm an actress. That makes sense. Your thought process is very interesting to me. How you decide things. Very interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then let's just say, you know, years later, did get hired at SNL as a writer. Okay. Period. So that's how that worked. Very. So that, so. So I don't want to say I'm, my, my poor decisions are always right, but sometimes. Sometimes you just got to be fast and loose with it.

They're right enough to reaffirm that it's working. Yes. Like you're right enough times to affirm that it's working. That could be something. Let's keep going on with that. Let's tattoo the next thing on my body. How'd you like working as well? Right.

Yes. But okay, I will say, I, big dreams. Definitely to write and star in my own movie. love as well as TV show oh period and that's that's the big you're so me you're so me do you have do you want it to be comedy drama I think for the TV show definitely comedy love and definitely comedy like hard comedy and like definitely I mean I guess this feels like a relationship base but it's like I feel like the characters matter so much I agree sometimes it's like the premise matters more And to me, I care more about the people in the world that we're creating than it like being like a heavy like.

Me too. And then someone was murdered. Yeah, yeah. You know, we got to figure it out. I agree. I think those are the shows I love the most when they have very like complex characters. Yes. I was just talking to my man about this yesterday because I was like one of the many times I just start rambling about stuff and he's like, yes, listening to me.

I'm like perfect. But I was talking about morally gray characters and how I find them a lot more interesting. Yes. that way. And you don't need crazy things to happen when you have really interesting people. I agree. And I think like nuance within people is important. I agree. I feel like it's more realistic. Yes. Yeah, totally. It's like very easy to be like this person is like not a good person. This person's bad. Yeah. They're evil because of this. And then it's like, well, no, maybe this person is a complex person. It's like, why is like, you know, Walter White on a breaking back. Yeah, totally.

It's a complex individual. Yeah. You know, maybe you don't like everything about Walter White. But that's okay. Yeah. You know, like, but we're still locked in. Yeah, exactly. We're so incredibly interesting. And far more relatable, I feel like, to audiences. I agree.

That's really cool. How fun. What about your movie? You said you want your movie to be more like drama? I think more comedy drama. Okay, T. For sure. Love.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so cool. Because I feel like the kinds of movies like that I like the most, like the things that I'm inspired by is like stuff that, well, I guess a mix but things I've been drawn to currently are kind of claustrophobic movies. Ooh. So movies where you feel like oh my god what's the Rose Byr movie that came out is like if I kicked you oh if I liked I'd like you yes I love how like yeah it feels like suffocating almost yeah yeah like uncut gems kind of like I was just what to say like I or like a John Cassavetti's movie the woman under the influence okay Gina Rao like I like I

just I like, I think also like depictions of like womanhood in that way are so interesting. Yeah, totally. Like the complex feeling of like trying to do better for yourself, but then like kind of being a fuck up. Yeah. Like constantly trying to figure. I don't know, like being on that hamster wheel. Totally. But I think there's also, I think it also could be funny.

Yeah. And I think there's room for a laugh here and there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's, uh, that's so, such a good point too about women. and the depiction of them. And I think, especially now with, like,

the moral policing of everything on things like TikTok, they moral police women, like, these characters and these shows that, like, sex in the city, for example. Yeah. Like, obviously, Carrie Bradshaw is, like, unlikable in a lot of ways. But, like, she's also extremely relatable in those ways. Like, and that's kind of one of those things that you learn, like,

as women, like, when you make, I've talked about this before where I'm, like, when people are super judgmental of women, even if they're fake characters, they make very judgmental decisions, like things that they feel like they can be hypocritic or critical of. I'm like, well, women are so complex. And I think that's why, like, you know how many things I've loved my friends through? Like the kinds of decisions they've made where I'm like, girl, why would you ever?

And then it's like you learn to love them through it. Yes. And then love them so they come out the other side of it. And then when they do, they look back and they're like, I was fucking nuts. Yeah, I was like, yes, you were. Yes, you were. You were. You were.

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or full glam, Sephora can help you find your match. One of my really good friends, she was like ranting to me about something. And it was like the most, it was the most nothing burger issue. Like it was like, it was something that was insane and crazy,

but also she didn't need to care about that much, but I got why she did. And so she was rambling to me for like maybe an hour. And then after she goes, do I sound insane? And I go, I mean, yeah, but I love you. Yeah. I was like, I'm loving you through it, girl.

Yes. You do sound insane, yes, but like, it's okay. Who doesn't? Yeah. I was like, who doesn't? When I talk about stuff, sometimes I sound insane. Uh-huh. Sometimes you just got to be talking.

Yeah, it's like. Yeah, it's like. Yeah. And that wasn't. And then look, she found her way to the end. Figured it out. Yeah, we talked to. You had to get there by yourself.

Yeah, but I love watching women like that on screen. Yes. Like, once who could be perceived as like unlikable at a certain point. Like you're like that that is like real life like that's very human I think and I think like flea bag for example is like a great example of that especially when you find out the twist and you're like oh my god I've been rooting for her this whole time right and then you find out like you it's just real life I feel like it depicts it like parallels I think that's wonderful I think if anyone could make it hilarious you could thanks but you know it's like it's I think in anything comedy happens like I think it's unrealistic to think that like even in your worst times you're not laughing a little joke you're not laughing a little somebody's saying something inappropriately somebody's done something a little

you know and you're laughing yeah yeah absolutely I love that I'm going to look I'm going to look out for it I'm going to manifest it for you thank you alongside you and then I'm going to look out for your big movie and be on the lookout yes I'll be on that and then I'll invite you back when the movie comes out and then you'll talk about the movie

and I'll be different then I want you to know I'll be different I won't be goofing off like I am now I'm going to be serious. I'm going to be like, oh, yes, very good to. Yes, how good you see you? Just so you know, I'm going to be different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm going to blow up and act like I don't know nobody. That's literally how I feel. I might come in here and I might say, hey, it's so nice to meet you and be like, oh, you did. It's so different. It's like, that meme when they're like, I'm going to let the money change me. Like when I get it, trust and believe I will be a different person, I will forget about you. Oh, 1,000 percent. Reintroduce yourself because I'm a new person.

I go by Ray now. Don't worry about that. I made that joke on here once when I was talking. I did like, I'm venturing into acting. So I've been like doing reads and stuff. Haven't booked anything yet. But when I do that, I'm like, I haven't booked anything yet. And obviously, because I'm still doing here, doing this.

I'm still here clocked in here, bitch. Like that's how you know I haven't made it yet. This is what I'm doing still. But that's okay. Yeah. And I was like, because I do plan on forgetting everybody as soon as that happens for me. The second you book. Yeah.

This is in the garbage. Spotify, goodbye. I don't care. See you later. Sorry. Yeah. Contract. Sorry.

Talk to my lawyer. I'll have my people call your people. Yeah. Okay, so that's a good transition actually into your fun facts. Are you excited? Yes. And you'll let me know if they're fun, obviously. Okay.

So this first one says that you cry during movies because the, quote, existence of cinema makes you really emotional. Okay. And I got to be honest. me doing this this that's a fun fact about you it's not the first time this is come that's come up somebody is a pull from like a

broopulcher article I think I did in like 2018 you getting embarrassed you're getting embarrassed of that corny thing you wrote I can't believe that's what I said I didn't know you guys would be quoting me I didn't know it'd be 2026 it'd be here hide me for years to come. Easy cry for a movie.

If a movie is trying to get me to cry, I can get there, especially on a plane. Oh, yeah. On a plane, yeah, time's not real up there. Come on. I'm crying over everything. Oh, yeah, I watched Raya and the Last Dragon on a plane once. I was like, I literally,

that was when we had to wear masks on the plane too, and I was wearing, I was wearing my mask. I soaked through my mask, Because I was open mouth sobbing on the fucking plane. Yeah. It's not that serious. No. But it was in the plane.

Yeah, it was. It did feel that way. It was. It's heightened up there. Yeah. I watched the beekeeper recently on the plane. Oh, man. Jason Statham.

I've never seen it. Cried. That movie is not a movie you would cry. When you said, when you said, when you said, oh, something's off. And you got emotional? What's going on with her? Yeah. Well, you know, it comes out the gate kind of strangely swinging.

Felicia Rashad's in that movie You're saying, huh? Felice Rashad, Jason Statham, Josh Husserson, Jeremy Irons. That's a very interesting lineup. Mini driver. Damn. Too stacked.

That felt like Madlibs for actors. You know what I mean? Like, I need an actor. For an action movie. That's about beekeepers, but it's actually a secret society. Yeah. One thing about Jason Satham, he's going to play a secret agent.

One thing about that bald guy, he's going to be kicking ass and taking names. you what I feel I'm on the train. Yeah. I want to get on the Jason's day than the train. I'm here to stay. Hell yeah. Yeah.

I think so. Yeah. I feel very like I love when actors just kind of do what's like, they're like, yeah, that like makes sense. Like they're like, yeah, it's kind of like that joke they've made about Doolipa, which I don't feel this way. Doolipa, if you ever see this, I don't feel this way. But like they're like, Doolipa's going to make the same song and put it out every summer.

Yeah. Until the end of time. Right. And I'm going to play the fuck out of it. Like that's how I feel about that. That's why I feel about Jason's save them. I'm like, when he's just like killing people and beating people up, I'm like, well, that makes sense for him. You're in your bag.

Why would you get out of it? Exactly. Stay in there. You found the formula that works. You found the work. You found what works. Oh, you're going to make a, just a nice little song of the summer every summer. Yeah, a chart topper.

Come on. Okay. Who cares? Twist my arm, sure. I'll listen to it. Oh, something that I want to dance on the dance floor. Something that gets me thrown a little last in the middle of the night, middle of the night? Sue me.

Oh. Yeah. Take me away. That's crazy. Yeah, lock her up in the studio. That would make a few more hits. Well, I'm glad to hear that you're so emotionally connected to cinema. Yeah.

I'm happy for you. I got to delete that. I got to get that article. I got to ask you to take that shit down. You're going to be like, eh, huh? Okay. This one says for your 28th birthday, you wished for hot Dr. Pepper? I did?

I know, girl, I don't know. You tell me. My 28th birthday, I wish for hot Dr. Pepper? It's in quotes. Hot Dr. Pepper. 28. What was 28? What was that? Holder you now?

33. Okay. Yeah. That's not too long ago then. Well, but it feels. Do you like, do you like Dr. Pepper? Love Dr. Pepper. Do you want it hot?

Hot. I want a hot Dr. Pepper? You know, I would think. I have brain damage. I would think that. I'm going to go to the doctor after this. You have a TBI. I would think that this is like an insane random thing,

but based off everything, I feel like I've seen, the way your brain turns, this would make sense for you to say that. This is one of those things you didn't realize you said. Right, but I didn't say, but I don't stand by it now. I could not, I'd like to retract that statement.

Yeah. It's not a representation of me now. I know, I've changed and I no longer, those reviews no longer reflect who I am at this time. And I just want to shout out to the community. Thank you for your support. Hot Dr. Pepper. That's very interesting.

I don't remember. I love Diet Dr. Pepper. Oh, yeah. Delicious. I do love that. I know, I know a lot of people are, are very anti-diet soda,

but no. I honestly think that's the only, that was what I was raised on was diet soda, so that's why it's my favorite one. It's not like a calorie thing. Yeah. I could give,

I could give a fuck about calories. No. Like in a drink, please. But it's got that kick. It does. It's got a particular, I was never into diet soda growing up, but then Diet Coke grasped me.

And now I can't get away. Yeah, yeah. I can't get away. And I think that's maybe what's in there. It's in there that's actually doing it to me. It's that Aspartame. Yeah, Aspartame is doing something to me. Because they don't have Diet Coke in all of the countries outside of you.

No, they don't. No, they have that like Pepsi Zero or Pepsi Max. Yeah. When I went to Ireland in December of last year, they only had Pepsi Max. No. Whatever the hell that is, get rid of it. Yikes. Disgusting.

Yeah, poured out. I just started drinking regular Coke because I was like, that's just better. Yeah. But it tastes better than whatever the hell this is. Yeah. Well, I'm glad that doesn't reflect you anymore. It doesn't reflect you. Yeah, I'm glad.

I'm glad we could take that off the table for you. No problem. Okay, that says in 2023, you were Burt from Sesame Street for Halloween. That's true. Who was Ernie? My friend Karen. Karen was Ernie and I was Burt. But I was like, I'm going to be sexy.

I'm going to be sexy. And it was like, kind of not. I just had a skirt on. I couldn't figure out the top to be hot. It was just burnt in a skirt. Yeah, it was burnt in a skirt. It was burnt in a skirt. But because I was like, oh, I think it's because often in my head I'll be like, oh, I could craft it.

Yeah. I could do it. I bet I could sew amazingly. Oh, that's easy. I just haven't tapped into that potential. You know, I know how to sew. You're so in there. You're so me.

You're so me. I'm always like that. I'm like, if you gave me like 10 minutes, I bet I could figure it out. Well, of course I didn't figure it out. Of course, I get the shirt in the mail and I say, well, now what the hell am I supposed to do with? Cut a V into it. Yeah. Yeah.

So it was just, it was just normal. Right. Yeah. Got it. With the skirt. Yeah. And then I put my hair in a little bun. Oh, cute.

Yeah. Didn't even paint myself yellow or nothing. I was going to say, did you do face paint or anything? No, I should have. Should have. Not that I'm thinking about it. I really should have. In many ways, it was just kind of like, oh, Rachel kind of got a strange little outfit on, huh?

You just have a striped shirt off. Yeah, without my, uh, because I'm, because I'm a, I was Bert. Without my Ernie, kind of, kind of. You'd have no idea. Certainly not. Sesame Street? No. Probably because I'm not yellow and I have the skirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're throwing people off with the skirt. That's why.

You're gender bending, Bert. Yeah. And people weren't ready for that. No, they weren't right. The world wasn't ready at the time. That's right. Okay, last one fact that says that at NYU, you were accepted into a highly competitive sketch comedy group called The Hammer Cats. Oh, that is true. It's highly competitive sketch comedy group is interesting. praising. It is. Yeah, it is. I bet it's extremely popular though. Yeah, it's one of those things.

What was that process like to get in? Was it like just a regular audition? Was it like S&L probably? No. Yeah, you had to submit sketches. Yeah. And then you had a in-person audition. Oh, T. And I was good at the audition. Okay, nice. But like I said, I did not know how to write a sketch. So my sketch was really strange, but the performance was good. And so then when the like directors, they were like, they interviewed people. Yeah. And they're like, so would you be willing to learn? How to write?

Yeah. Would you be willing to learn how to do this? And I was like, yeah, I know 100%. Yeah. 100% I can. You're literally, I feel so like kindred spirit with you because I feel very the same in the sense that I'm like, I know I can do it. Yes.

And even when I don't really know how to do it, I still kind of know how to do it. You can do it. Yeah. Like, I still can kind of do it. Right. So. That's what I'm saying. It's like you, it's like, it's all in here.

Yeah. The only block is you. Stand out of your way. It's belief. Yeah. It's a belief system. I, that's so true because I've said like it's, um, I make this joke about myself all the time because I watch, I have watched many things, but I've also not watched a lot of

things. If that makes sense. Yes. So I always, I feel similarly. I always joke that I'm like, I got the gist. Uh-huh. So like when I was, uh, they came out with a new gladiator, right? The original gladiator, I've never seen.

Mm-hmm. And I was telling my dad about this. And I was like, I think I'm gonna, I should go see that new gladiator movie. Like I was like, oh, that looks interesting. I should go see it. And he goes, well, have you seen the first one? And I go, no, but I got the gist. And then he's like, what do you mean the gist?

And I was like, well, like, I know it's like guys fighting. That's enough. I'm like. You don't need to see the social. I'm watching to enjoy. I'm not watching to critique. This is the Lord of the Rings. You know, it's like, you don't need to like, oh, then this character and then that.

It's like, I know what's going on. Yeah, because even like something like stranger things. right like I watched all of season two I did not watch season one I did not watch anything else after that I watched all of season two yeah clocked out and then season five obviously ends and then in Ireland like my sister and other friends we were with were like oh let's watch the season finale of straight new things they watched it I watched it I cried yep I laughed laughed with them like I was there I don't know anything that's fucking happening and then I

was like wow that was incredible that was so awesome and then my sister was like, you're going to go back and watch, like, all of it? I go, no. No, I had, I had the experience. You know what's going on. I was, I got it. You're getting. Like, what you needed was the characters, you know? And you, you were connected to them because you'd watch the season.

You knew their arcs. You knew their flaws. You knew what was going on. Yes. And then you happened and you got to, oh, you get to experience it in a real way. You know what? That shows that somebody did their job. Yeah.

Yeah, I enjoyed it. Yes. You're just like me. That's why you're like. And honestly, that's why I know you're successful and going to continue to be successful. Because honestly, 90% of this business is confidence. Yes. And just like, I can do it.

And no fear. Like no fear of being perceived. Yeah. Yeah. Which leads me to my last question. I was going to ask you like, what are some tips you have for aspiring artists? Because obviously you wear many hats, which I love. And I'm jealous of the singing.

I always joke that I think the universe didn't give me singing because they knew I would just be unbearable. I would be like the most agonizing person to be around. So they were like, funny and that's it. bitch. I feel you would be popping out with some songs. I would have dropped at least. I joke, but this is not a joke. Like if I could sing and I have the platform I have now, I would have dropped at least one EP. Oh, 1000%. At least

one. You would have three tracks popping off right now. Obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I would love to know if you have any advice for any aspiring artists that are like maybe going through it right now or like in the grind of it all right now. Do you have any advice for them?

I mean, I do think that the most like important thing is to keep going is to continue and not be like judgmental of your own work it's like if you're standing in your own way then it's like you're not going to be able to bring other people into it totally there's like a martha graham quote that i really like yeah that like uh she just talks about it's actually kind of like um being an artist like talking about how being an artist is a lot of dissatisfaction yeah that's so true And it's a lot of like you not being completely like, I don't know, I'm somebody that likes to keep tinkering with something or like keep having like,

if it's like I'm working on something, I feel like it's not ever finished. Yeah, totally. It just has to move to the next stage. Yeah. And I feel like the quote is kind of like about how there is a bit of a dissatisfaction and you just have. And it's like an unrest, but it keeps you alive. And that what you have is a creative channel and you have to keep the channel open.

because like even if you have a similar idea to somebody, it's not going to be the same coming from you versus somebody else. Yeah, that's so true. And so I think it's just important to be open to your craft and like let your ideas out. And don't be scared if they suck too. You know, like if it doesn't work like that also is valuable. Yeah. Yeah.

And it is true. Like it's very like I think a lot of it like you were joking about like it's the only obstacle is me. Yeah. But it's true. Like especially when it comes to art Like in putting out art It's like this fear of being judged or critiqued

Which I think is natural, obviously it's natural to it But like art is also subjective Exactly So like you said it's like what's hilarious and awesome to one May not be to the other But as long as it is to you That's what matters That's what matters

If you're playing back your jokes and you're laughing That is what matters Literally that's what matters You're making yourself laugh That's what matters Yeah my husband after I do that He goes you're laughing again Like you didn't hear me

Like I didn't hear you didn't hear me laugh the first time Yeah I was like yeah I had the nerve to rewind it Watch it and laugh again Yeah I love me I'm my biggest fan Yeah obviously

I don't go get me because I got me Yeah Yeah yeah Well thank you so much for coming on the show I think you're a fucking delight You are the hoot to my holler I love that That's perfect

We're match made in heaven Yeah Thank you so much for coming on the show I adore you For those that are not familiar with you, where can everybody find you? Online at I am Rachel P.grim on all platforms. And then I'll tell you what, I also got a new podcast coming out. Yay!

How exciting! In the winter? Yeah, so when you're bundled up, that'll be a little funky. You want to get cozy. Yeah. Nice. Oh my gosh, how fun. You really are a jack of all trades.

Look at you. You're doing everything. I got to keep up with you. Thank you so much for coming on the show. I think you're amazing. Make sure you all go follow Rachel everywhere. She also performs live too. So I'm sure if you just follow her,

you'll see all of the many, many amazing things she's doing. So thank you all so much for tuning into this week's episode. Don't forget new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms with the video lists for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, YouTube. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Rachel Pigram. And thank you all so much.

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