The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - RAIN CUDDLE BUDDY Ft. Anna Cathcart | Episode 215

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

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Like, just Beyonce ever wash a spoon? Like, I don't see her. Like, I can't picture. For real. Does Beyonce ever have to text Jay-Z and say, can you bring me toilet paper to the bathroom? No, literally, I'm like, and she's, like, it's like she can't.

I don't think Beyonce's ever farted. There's no way. I only has ever parted in her life. Everyone and welcome back to another episode of the Comments section show. Sorry, me, your favorite. Everybody knows me who cares about me. On to the guest.

Today, we have the iconic, the legendary Exo Kitty herself Anna Capcard! Hello! Yay! Thank you so much for having me. Oh my God, thank you for gracing us with your presence. I'm literally so excited. Big fan,

X-O-Kitty have to mention, have to call it out early, my sister and Carrie, who's not here right now, but she will be here, huge fans of the show. Thank you so much. They actually told me about the show. Oh, my God. Wow, they're like doing PR for us. Thank you. Thank you.

They love it. I love it. Very happy to have you. Thank you. I'm such a fan of you. I think you're so funny and so awesome. Oh, God. Thank you.

Thank you. I can't wait. Thank you. And we have met before. We have. We met at the SAG Awards. Yes. Now the Actor Awards.

Yes. And then we met in the bathroom. Yeah, at the women's brunch. Yeah, women's brunch. And I was like, hi. I don't know if you remember me. I think we're cool. And we meet again as we wipe our hands on.

Yes. And so we go way back, you and I. And I'm happy to finally have you on the show. It's a joy and a privilege. How have you been? How's life been for you lately? I've been good. We've been busy.

We just started Exa Qa Qaeda season 3 press, like full speed the last few days. Very cool. So it's been a lot. But good reunions with the cast and like hadn't seen him since shooting. which is so crazy. You got from seeing someone every single day of your whole life and you know everything about them

and then we all like pop back out into like the normal world and then we don't see each other for months so it was a very good reunion. Until you have to talk about your bubble filming everything until you reunite for that. And then you're like back in the snow globe. I always, it's like literally feels like a snow globe

and then you like fall out of the sky when you go back home and you're like what just happened? Because that was like your whole universe and then the show's like the new rap and then you're just like none of them living. Well I guess I'll never see that again Until you do.

Until you do. It's like a trippy experience for sure. Very cool. Well, how has been filming or how was filming? Filming was so good. It was so fun. Season three, I feel like was chaotic in its own way,

but also like so comforting because now it was their third time around and like everybody was the closest they've ever been, know each other the most, know what to expect the most. Love. Just the whole process in general. So it was really fun. And I'm so excited. It's finally like coming into the world. Like it's about to be like everybody else is now, not just ours.

So I'm very excited. That's so cool. Well, I want to go back a little bit. I know you're like very young, especially compared to me. But how did you get into acting? Like, what was the draw to it initially for you? I never thought I would be an actor, first of all. Interesting.

It did not seem like a real job. Well, also when you're like 10, you don't like, you're not like thinking like realistic career paths. But I was just like, oh, like that like I loved Disney Channel so much. And I watched so much TV. It was ridiculous. And now I say like, I'm like, thanks, mom. That was like my training. Like I literally just watched so much TV.

be as a kid and I wanted to be them like I was just like that would be like the coolest thing ever and then my older sister who I grew up like wanting to be like anything she did I want to do she did a few commercials growing up so I got into like having a commercial agent and I did like my first day on set ever was a Campbell soup commercial I literally didn't have any lines I just had to go that sounds so fake and just eat soup and I loved it was like the best day of my life and I was like seven and then like five years later I did a creola chalk commercial also no lines but I had to do a day with a bunch of chalk and I literally remember leaving and was like mom that was the best day of my life like however whatever just happened can we do more of that like I loved loved it so much and I didn't

I didn't even get might like I didn't even have words and then after that I got an agent that did film and TV and I was like very very lucky right place right time I did my first audition for a show called odd squad on PBS kids and then I booked it and I moved to Toronto for two years and we shot that like it was a very long series and it was like my boot camp I learned everything that's crazy I was only 12. That was my first role. And I loved it so much. And now that was 10 years ago.

That's crazy. Very crazy. You were like working your ass off almost immediately. It was wild. I know that's fucking right. It never felt like work at that age because I was 12. And I was like this is my life dream. I feel like Hannah Montana.

Like I'm like it was like all the things I want to do. And then like the transition later of becoming an adult and being like, wait, this is like a job now. Like this is actually not just like a fun little hobby. It was like so crazy and like such a weird thing. Also at 12 by the way. figuring all that out at later at like when i like became like 18 12 like then i was like oh this is like no longer what i used to see it as at 12 like back in the day my mom was with me all the time because

like she had to legally and i was just like having fun and it didn't feel like it it's changed so much over the years of like how i even my own relationship with career is like it wasn't i never even used the word like job as a kid because it's like it's a beautiful thing though yeah totally what were your favorite disney channel shows oh my god shake it up you like shake it up made me single-handedly made me want to become an actor. I've watched every single episode to shake it up more than once. I used to be able to quote, like, honestly, there's a lot of Disney Channel shows that I can, like, quote the whole scene.

Right. And like Zendaya, my queen of all queens. I know, isn't it so trippy to think about her being on that show? No, I like to always say I liked Zendaya before she was Zendaya. Like before she was like the Zendaya that now everyone was, when she was Rocky Blue. Yeah, Rocky Blue. I'm shaked up Chicago. I was like, I already see your potential.

I know you're going to be the star of her generation. and I'm eight. And I knew she was like she was, you know, I hate to be that guy, but I knew. But I knew. I was a fan before she was big. Like I was there when her first album came out, like replay.

Pre-law Roach, I was a fan of Zendria. Exactly. I, when she was wearing like way too many skirts at once on Shaker and she had like eight different jackets on, I was like, and I want to be. One glove. One glove. Yeah.

I want to be that. I got pink streaks in my hair because of that show. That's so, that's so real, though. I was obsessed. But I also watched like, like Charlie. Oh my God. raised our whole family. My dad, I once watched, walked into the room and my dad was watching Charlie alone. Like my parents love his channel as well. Live and Maddie, Jesse, Austin and Alley,

like, all of them, I never missed my episode. Oh my God. Thinking about, yeah, I'm, well, I'm 100 years older than you, so I was like in a different season of Disney child, but I remember all of those shows. Yeah. It's just crazy to think about now all of the heavy hitters in those shows now. Disney knows how to find that. Yeah. Ross Lynch on Austin and Alley. Ross Lynch was one of the people used to have like a crush on it when I was a child and I was like, I don't get it. I don't see it. And then he dyed his hair brown for Sabrina. And I was like, hold on a minute. I think you're my dream man.

And now he's dyed his hair back. But it's like the impact has been made on me. It doesn't matter. I've seen it and I can't go back. I think Ross Lynch is one of the most beautiful people ever. I think he's so gorgeous and he's so cool. Like Ross Lynch. Yeah.

Do you have any other celeb crushes? This is the place we manifest. Oh, that is the chair. Peter Parker and like I understand he's a fictional person. But like Tom Holland we love, but Peter Parker specifically, it could bring me to tears. Watch me. Just a live crush. You're telling me a made-up person.

I'm a person. But like, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland, like, as people, like, they're just, like, so cool and so wonderful. And so, like, I just want to give you a hug. I just want to, like, I just, like, I just like, I just like, I just like, give you a little cuddle, you know? But, like, I also love their character so much. Like, Peter Parker is just, like, the dream man. Tea. I feel like there's a lot.

Like, witty. Yes. And they're just like, they're just like, you want to just like, yeah. I get it. I get it, girl. You know? Anyone in the real world? Anyone in the real world?

A lot of the people of the sort, like that, like, it's like the base, like, the cute, the cute white boys. Right. It's just like, unfortunately, it works on me. It works on you. Unfortunately, I fall in like the white boy of the month. Like, oh, they'll know Brian. I'm like, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Well, obviously. I understand why that is a thing. Like, why that title has become a thing. Why boy the month? It's like, because people like me exist and we love them. And we fuel that. You're feeding the, the numbers.

I'm right there. Well, I love that. I'm happy for you about Peter Parker especially. I think that's wonderful. Also very fun to hear about Disney Channel. What was like your first gig where you were kind of like, oh my God, this is huge. Descendants. I mean, I did descendants like when I was 13 where it was like still passable to like freak out and like play my cast, like my castmate songs in the trailer.

Like I was still allowed to be crazy because I was 13. Thank God. It wasn't like a few years later. It was like, this girl needs to chill. I would like look into Sophia Carson's eyes and be like, I love you. I have a poster of you. And it was like, I was cute enough and young enough for it to like not be weird. Right.

But I look back down and like that's like you were fully working with these people and I was not hiding how much I love them. And like China and McLean, she is my aunt farm queen. Like I loved her. Dub Cameron. Like all of them. I was like I like you made me want to do this and now I'm here with you. Like I was you're so real dude. Like crazy.

You're so real dude. Honestly, that's what I felt when I had Sammy Hanradi on the show. She was telling me she was like a child actor too. so she was on like sweet life of Zach and Cody like she was on Icarly like she was on so many different things and I was like girl and she's like every time I went I was like oh my god I'm the biggest man and I was like you're real

as fuck I'd be doing the same thing yeah it's like it's like you really have to well as a child especially I didn't channel like being calm now I have to chill out in terms of like fan girling but like I really got to live it up then because I was so little and like I used to like enter contest to be on like you know how there was like oh like you could win like with Best Western you could go for one day and

like try on Rocky Blues glove and I was like I will sit here and enter my max amount of entries every single day at my mom's MacBook. And I literally did that when I was like eight and then now then I was like I have a trailer beside yours like this like I'm getting paid to be here. I would pay to be here. Like that was that was my whole child. That's so awesome. We were like this is how I know I've made it on the set of descendants. Yes. Honestly my sister, huge fan of the descendants franchise as well. I know that because she's told me when I met Dove I met Dove for the first time at the actor awards like a couple weekends ago and love her she's trying to come on the show too we were kind of chatting and my sister was like did you tell we have our cousin Cruz it's like she's what 21 I think 21 she was like did you tell Cruz you met dove Cameron and I was like no because I forgot she was obsessed with dove Cameron live in Maddie at but specifically descendants I'm huge descendant Ted you should just like start singing like into the core every time if you see any of them just bring that up yeah just start singing yeah just say like just say like Alex, I play Ron to the Core by Deb Cameron.

As she was in the roof? Yes. Please. I love that. And I love that you are a proud and loud fan girl. Very. Anything else you were big fan girl love? Like music groups, TV shows, anything?

That was really it. Like all Disney Channel. And then like Zendaya was the number one rising one. And that's still, that's still like, I don't know how I would act if I met Zendaya. Like I want to so badly, but like it would be hard. That's real. Like she's like not like she's all the things because she's also done the transition of like becoming like a serious actor as an adult but doing she did two Disney Channel shows.

I think we forget about Casey undercover. I think the world forgets about Casey undercover and like that's so impressive that I'm like you did that and then you did another entire series as the number one on Disney Channel when you were older like and you still like I just think she's so graceful. She's flawless and like she could wear anything and it's perfect. Like everything she does is just like has golden. like sand around it. I get that. How you feel about her is how I feel about Beyonce. It's one of those people. And I did meet her and I barely survived it. Yeah. But it was amazing. You're so strong.

Thank you. And it was one of those. She's the only person I've ever met that didn't make me nervous or made me a little bit nervous. Everybody else never makes me nervous. Like anytime I meet other famous people, I'm never nervous. She's the only one that I felt like a little like. This episode is brought to you by Ring. Check on your home with Rings battery doorbell so you can see who's at your door and track packages in real time. Cam Plus helps protect your yard at night with a wide view and clearer retinal 2K video. And for even more detail, upgrade to 4K cameras and doorbells with retinal vision so you can zoom in without losing clarity. Your door, your yard, your home.

With Ring, it's protected. Shop cameras, doorbells, and more right now at ring.com. What am I going to say? Yeah. When I get in there, what am I going to do? I don't know how, like, I'm like, Beyonce just like goes to the bathroom. She wakes up. she does normal person things and I'm like I can't picture it like I can't picture I can't

like does Beyonce ever wash a spoon like I don't see her like I can't picture real does Beyonce ever have to text Jay Zee and say can you bring me toilet paper to the bathroom no I'm like it's like she can't I don't think Beyonce's ever farted in her life like those types of things I'm just like you're too you're too like oh yeah like there's something yeah I totally get what you mean there's just something about it and that's how Zendaya is for you that's how Zendaya is I get that that's I was asking if you were a big fan girl leather music groups or anything because that was a big Jonas Brother girl when I was young I get that one direction kind of but then past that I was like I was a little aged out of it at that point

I think I got into one direction later you did wait like they were already broken up and then I was like oh damn wait they're actually really good wait guys come back yeah I was like wait now like just for me can you come back because like I feel like I got like I started like in music when I was like in high school right they were already broken up yeah it's like their peak was when I was in elementary school and everyone like had like Nalhorn on their phone cases and I like didn't even have a phone yet. Like it was like we were like little and I was like guys like boys are gross like I yeah you said I don't know anything about one direction but what do you know about Casey undercover? Exactly I'm like if you at recess if you want to talk about Austin and Allie I'm there

but like I don't care of one direction and then I was like you're real and I was like wait these are some these are amazing and now I love boy men I was the I was the same way about men too like with my sister my sister is a lesbian but she in and all schooling we were in was like boy crazy like she always had a new crush I never had any crushes so you You would think that it would be me to turn out to be gay. Right. But it was not the case. She was hiding in plain sight.

You know what I mean? But she would bring up boys to me all the time and I would be like, who cares? Yeah. Cares about boys. No, I was so. I was so like that for so long. Yeah. And I love that you were so intacting at such a young age.

You big theater girl? No. Kay, weirdly, I've never done theater in my life. Interesting. Like at any degree, like not even like community center theater. And I would love to. Yeah. And now I feel like it's like now I don't know how to get into that or like I'm such a big fan of musicals and such a big fan of theater as like a audience member. Can you sing? I can't really. My life dream is for Lynn Manuel Miranda Miranda if you're watching, which I'm sure you're a huge fan of this podcast. Right. Lynn, you know. That's just why he listens to when he works out. Yes, of course. Yeah. He's literally, I know he's doing choreography and he's listening to your voice. Right. That I want you to train me to become a singer the way you train Andrew Garfield for Chik.

boom because that's one I favorite movies of all time and he wasn't a singer no and Zach Ephron wasn't a singer in Highest Musical one and then he became a singer for Highest Musical 2 so we know it's possible that's what I think is my destiny is that someone will train me and then I'll become a singer and then I will become a musical prodigy the longer I talk to the more I'm like I feel like I I ripped you out of my brain and put you there like I was like that's actually how I feel too I've I've talked a ton of shit about not being able to sing because I can't but I've also been like well Lin-Manma Miranda, like, he kind of like talk sings. What The Rock did in Moana, like, I could do that.

We could do that. Actually, The Rock has a really nice voice, though, which is a bummer for me, because I can't sing, but still. Right. I'm thinking I could learn a tune or so. To me, you are the Rock. So I think you could do it. Right.

I think you could do it. Yeah, we're built the same. When I see Moana, I think of you. You could do it. I know. And I want to be like the little pig in Moana. Right. Oh, in Juana.

Like, if they're doing another live action, you could be. be Maui and I could be right poo pooha or something yeah pooha the pig yes and you know what I would love to be the rock and I would love I would go top list sure you why not tattooed I can see you with the sword yeah with everything me and Maui

built the same obviously and that's a compliment let's be clear that's an elite compliment right and it was like I feel like back to your point about musicals what's your favorite musical first is a tic-tick-to-boom well the movie musical yes but dear Evan Hansen

is my favorite musical. That is crazy, Carrie and I loved Dear Evan Hansen. No way. I literally, that whole soundtrack got me through high school and I love it so much. I'm like everything about Jordan Hanson. I've watched Jordan Fisher be Evan on Broadway and I was sobbing and I love Jordan Fisher shoot and I don't even cry watching performances of like anything which always I could get concerned sometimes that I'm like I'm an actor I should be feeling like everyone around was crying and I'm like that was great but I like have nothing happening but that one I was sobbing under my mask. He was COVID still. And I was literally just like, like, my mask changed colors because I was crying so much.

Jordan Fisher and I are mutuals online. And he is, like, very supportive of me. Like, he comments on so many of my things. Love you, Jordan Fisher. I feel like he's the most supportive person ever. He is. Have you met in real life? No, I haven't.

He gives you Jordan, if you're listening, which again, this is probably what he's listening. Honestly, it makes me happy to think about. He gives you a hug like you just go back from war. Really? Every time he ever is given me a hug, it's like the most like, like, best. He's like my brother, my blood. He gives the best hugs ever. And like my sister had like a unique experience.

Like without us, we both came together and we were like, Jordan Fisher hugs. And she was like, Jordan Fisher hugs are the best hugs ever. So it's not just me. It's like a universal experience. You're two separate experience. Two separate. Yes. He gives the best hugs ever.

That's so deep. Dear Evan Hansen, that's a great pick. Waving Through a Window was one of my top songs for like two years in a row. Yes. Which kind of says where I. I was at mentally at the time, but it's okay. We're healed now. It's okay.

Love it though. I remember when I saw it in theaters. I mean, did Ben Platt look a little insane? Sure. But he is the OG. Like you have to put the OG in the movie. Hot take. I'm so mad when people were mad about that.

Me too. I was like, first of all, have you seen Greece? They're like 42 playing high school. So you're going to be upset that he's playing high school. This is not the craziest thing we've done. No, not at all. And he made Evan. Like I'm like, you birthed him.

Yeah, you birthed him. Of course it should be you. And like his voice is perfection. I still like the movie. I feel like people didn't know what they were getting into when they were watching. Like they like the plot like shocked them because they were like, oh, this would be like a cute heartfelt movie about like a gay man. And I'm like, it's not about that at all.

No, for real. But that's on them for not knowing that. I agree. Maybe they should get into Broadway more. And I remember when we went to see the movie. I took my mom and my sister. And when we went, we were like late. We were like probably like five, ten minutes late.

So we missed waving through a window. Wait, I was just say it opens going through a window. Yeah. I know and I missed it and I was pissed. And so we're sitting and my mom, again, my mom has never watched this musical and I actually didn't even know it was musical. She just wanted to come to the movies. And so she was saying and she goes, who is that?

Who is that? Who's that? Wait, are they related? And then she goes, wait, is this a musical? And I was all, you need to stop. I'm so sorry, I love you so much. You need to stop. Otherwise, I'm going to scoot over one seat.

I was like, because I've already missed waving through a window. And now you're asking me all these damn questions. I was sad they skipped. Does anybody have a map? Anybody, like the first, the first song from the actual sound track wasn't in the movie. I started and I was like Does anybody have a map And maybe you happen to know how the hell

So not accurate to the themes And they skip There were many songs on in there And I was like what Where is that? I agree I was disappointed Well that's a great pick

One of one of my favorite musicals Of all time is Legally Blonde Oh Like Broadway musicals I'm like that The color purple Six Great one

Do you have any other great choices Hairspray? That's a great one I want to play Penny and Hairspray Because she doesn't really have to sing very much She has like three lines alone the rest is ensemble and she just has a lollipop and gets to like be the fun friend the whole time right not that i thought about this but like truly what's your star sign i'm a gemini

interesting what is that tell you have any vergo i don't know i don't know you don't know any of i don't know anything about that i i don't even know what it means to be gemini i also don't know what dates like i i couldn't know less about horoscopes which is fascinating because i am in an industry where everybody asks you what sign you are in the first conversations like this is a very typical experience and then I go I don't know and like what's your moon stars yeah you're just so type a and I'm like oh I don't like I don't know what any of it means do you think it's like do you think it's like are you someone who like researches the like yeah I do I do I am very witchy woo-woo just generally speaking I think that's part partially because I'm indigenous so I feel very connected to spirit

and all that kind of thing so I do believe in astrological okay like depictions I just don't think they're as like hard pressed as people think they are like I think generally If I spoke generally about a certain sign, I'm sure all of the people who are that sign would understand it and be like, wait, wait, wait, that's true. But don't you think like everybody who also isn't that sign could think that they relate to them? That's the thing with everything.

It's very subjective. It's this and everyone's like that's so me. And I'm like, but if I told you that that was actually the Sagittarius one, you'd still say that so you. That's my personal thought. And I think that's the power of women. Women are just so convincing. We're just so open-minded.

Yeah, and women are so empathetic and women want people to feel supportive. So I feel like when you tell- We will see the truth in all. Right. And I do think that there is a lot of- There's like, yeah, there is a lot of positive. I do think though it's very accurate in a lot of ways.

Just not as like finite. It's not like this is the only way all of these people act. But also everybody to some extent has all of the signs in their chart. Not all of them, but most of them. So like you'll exhibit traits in certain areas. What am I supposed to exhibit as a Gemini? With Gemini's as far as I know, I know, and again, don't jump me astrological girls, but like Gemini's, the one thing I do know is people always say they're

two-faced, but that's not always a bad thing. Sometimes it's just like- I do think that's kind of true. Yeah, like it's not always a bad thing. Also, you're an actor, so that's that too. And with almost zero training, which again could lend towards the Gemini. Right. But it's also, I think it's two-faced in the sense that you can be also, you could just be different people in different situations. I think I am two-faced in some way because I'm like a very pessimistic optimist. Right. And like my sister trying to talk about this a lot where she He's like, you are like the most negative positive person I've ever met. Like, I'm like incredibly cynical and incredibly, like, I'm a realist to a fault.

Right. We're like, you're also extremely self-aware. I am, I am a little self-aware sometimes also to a fault where like I wish I could, being delusional is so hard for me. And like the fun part of it of like, you just have to like believe. I'm like, but like who says? Like when someone's like, everything happens for a reason, I'm like, it does not. Or they're like, oh, like, everything's going to work out. And like, but like, why would I? Why would it?

Like, it's so bad. But I'm so like throw an inspirational quote at me and I will knock it down. Yeah. Which is so terrible because I also think this is why I'm two-faced because the other time of me is like I am so positive. I get so excited over little things. I find joy in everything. I'm like so easily excited and like I'm like easily joy-filled.

But I'm also just as easily like let me debunk why that inspirational pillow is stupid. Like I also have that. So I think that is me being two-faced. Yeah. You're like you're not negative, but you are a realist, which I think is like almost too rooted in reality. It's, yes. Sometimes a little wimsy is nice.

It's, I need, can you help me find some more wimsy because it's hard for me? It's hard for me to buy into the wimsy. Yeah, that's so unfortunate. Yeah, I get that too, because I'm a Virgo, so I'm very, like, detail-oriented, very organized planner, that kind of thing. Earth signs, so I'm very grounded.

I'm also very realistic, but I'm very, like, believe, I believe in manifesting, I believe the universe is always working in my favor kind of deal. And maybe that's what you're looking for more of. Yes, I can't do. that more connection the manifesting thing too also hard for me I like I just like I don't know yeah I don't like I don't I don't I've had my friends really really fucking smart and I think

that's what it is so sometimes really smart people it's hard for them to daydream and yes to like imagine kind of like I have a big imagination but then like it I always come back to real life like it's like a little too quickly if I've ever if anyone's ever teaching like a dream course like I'll I'll sign up that's too you know because I I I I talked about this in therapy once, but I was like telling my therapist, I don't have hobbies. Like I told there, I feel like I don't have hobbies. Like my hobbies are like things that normal people just do. So like watching TV or like playing video games, which I guess could count. They could count. But I was like, I just like, I don't have them because I have this thing in

my head where I have to, if it doesn't give me something, like doesn't procure a result or help me succeed or be the best at something. I kind of think my brain is like, well, that's not important. Right. I get that. But my sister is the queen of hobby. Like she loves all hobbies. She's tried every craft you can think of. Like she's filled with nothing but whimsy. Those people are so cool to me. Yeah.

And I was like, I was like, I want to do that. Like my sister will be like, oh yeah, I'm just doing butterflies. Just bought a butterfly thing. So she's just so like, yeah, I'm just getting into it. So the will. And I wish. It's all about the will though of people like, people who make DIYs for fun. I'm like, where did you find the will?

Where did you find it in you to like, you went to Home Depot. You bought that. You researched it. You made it. You let it dry. You did it again tomorrow. for no one but yourself. No, for real.

You have a very strong relationship with your own inner soul. That's so true. Where do you find the energy? I don't have that. Like, I recently bought a journal because I was like, I want to journal, but I was like, I do do journal, that's great. I love that. I want a journal more.

But then I'm like, but sometimes I sit there and I feel like when I'm writing it, I'll like write jokes like to myself, which I'm like, what am I doing? Like, it feels like I'm jerking myself. writing my own joke reading. Yeah, I'm going, I'm going, I'm so good sometimes. No, but like, I feel like that's good. That's good for your craft. I was like, I just have never stuck to the journaling,

but I bought a journal specifically because I know about junk journaling. Okay, yes. Which I've heard about many times, but I was like, I don't know. That's a lot of crap. And again, it's like, nothing with hobbies. I'm trying to get more hobbies. So then I saw one girl I know do junk journaling,

but she does like anything, like trash, not just like scrapbooking stuff, but like trash. And she does. does it only when she wants to like memorize a moment. Whoa. Like she's like just to memorialize something. That's so cute. So she had one that was all Popeye's trash, but it was because she ate Popeye's on this really special day. Okay. I was like, now that I could get into. Yeah. Yeah. That's so wonderful. Yeah. So I was like, this is why media brings the world together. Right. That is fantastic. Sometimes when I see myself buying something specifically because I saw it online,

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I can't scrapbook because I'm too much of a perfectionist. I tried to make a collage and I did succeed and I did make it, but I was making it with one of my friends and we were both like silently working and I was like, are you having fun? She was like, no. I was like, no. I was like, is this like, are we getting, is this supposed to be the fun part? I'm like, I'm like, I'm over here sweating. I keep moving things. And then once you glue it, it's done.

And then I'm like, well, now I can never move. like that's a photo booth photo that's now stuck in here forever like what if i wanted to do something else with it i just like i can't your brain sounds like a prison girl and mine is too i would say a lot of the time sounds like you get a lot done though i try yeah i do try you should see like how many tabs i have open at once that's how my brain works too and it i can i can do it i can multi-tasked oh my gosh my tabs on my safari on my phone it's terrifying yeah mine i have so many did you know there's a limit to how many you can have open no but you've reached i've reached it twice And it's 500.

Oh, why? And I'm so dead ass, 500 tabs open. Don't know what that is. But I literally my... That's not ever needed. No, my man gets so grossed out when I show him. He's like, oh my God, 93 tabs. I'm on, don't look over my shoulder while I do things.

Do you ever revisit the... Like, are they just there because you open a new tab every time you go on Safari? You're not actually using them all the same time. You just open a new one. Yeah. Or I click a link and it goes in there. I'm someone who's like, if I can do it from my phone,

I will do it from my phone. Like if I can buy a house from my phone, I'm telling you right now I'm going to buy it from my phone. You buy plane tickets from your phone. Yes, I did that all the time. You know, there's like phone task, laptop task, desktop task. I don't have that.

Everything is a phone task unless it makes me so angry I want to throw my phone in the ocean, then I move it to the laptop. Have you ever filled out a when to meet? When to meet? Do you know like the when to meet website? It's like if you have a big, like if a group of friends are all trying to figure out

when they're both free, you can fill out a when to meet and everybody blocks out when they're busy and then it will be like, You're all free at this time. If anyone has ever tried to fill out a when to meet on their phone, that is a perfect, like, screen time, like, motivator that you don't want to go on your phone again. You never want to go on your phone ever get. If you're like, I've been on my phone too much, try and go on a when to meet and you'll turn off your phone for the rest of the day.

That's crazy. Nothing is more frustrating than filling out of went to meet. You have to do that. I've never even heard of that, but that is a genius thing. It's so awesome. In this industry especially, you need it. It's kind of, it's like, no offense to when to meet. It's like a janky website, but it works.

It does. You fill out your weird little green squares and then like the darkest or the lightest. It's one of those. It's color coordinated. And then they're like, you guys cannot hang out this day. Me being influenced again. Yes. I've never heard of that app, but I'm going to look into it as soon as we're done because

all of my friends. Yeah. Okay, need to do it on the laptop. Laptop task exclusively. I think that's so helpful too, especially in this industry because like when I want to invite my friends to something, let's say it's in like September, I ask them in February because I'm like, just in case. I don't know if the, because some of my friends film movies, some of them are flying all over

the place. I'm like, I need to ask you now and you tell me. But do they actually say yes or no? They'll say, I think I have something, but I'll let you know. Right. So then like, this really ever help. And then as we get closer, they're like, okay, I don't have that. Okay, I do have this. Yeah. It's one of those. But that when to me thing will alleviate. But that's normally for like the next two weeks. Like I can't, like if someone tells me like something's happening September, I'm like, and I might be living in like Patagonia. No same. I don't know where I'll be there. No, for real. I don't know where I'll be in two weeks,

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Honestly, like, the actual acting part is such a small part of the job. That's so true. And it's my favorite. And I'll like, need it every once in a while to remind myself why I do all the other. Yeah, why I am in this career. And like so much of your job is like you're not, it's not in between the moments of action and cut. Like that's like such a tiny sliver. but it will always be my favorite

and like it makes me happy whenever I remind myself that like whenever I go back and I'm like oh wait I still like I love this so much because it's like I never intended to be like a social person or like a content creator or like a public person it's like I just like found acting so fun and so fascinating and like getting to be a character

is so fun getting to make choices and like work with dialogue and like all those things I'm like I just get so like ignited by it but I really only get to do it like a few months a year and like hopefully I can do that more. Like that's the hope of like whatever more projects coming up. But like at the moment so much of work is all the other parts. Yeah.

Which is like I've compared to like it and I'm nowhere near you like the acting things I've done. You're so right. It's like 90% of it is standing around and waiting for people to redo things, reset things, whatever. And then you get to do it for like five, 10 minutes. Yeah. Then you reset move on to something else. Totally. So and a lot of it I've compared it to like it feels like you're running for mayor every other part of the job. Like you're running for mayor.

You're constantly running for mayor. Yeah, I'm kissing babies. I'm cutting ribbons. I'm like going and making people laugh. Like I'm doing all that shit like and shaking hands and meeting people. I just want to make a difference in my community. I want to be mayor. Like the mayor's like I didn't want to do this either.

Yeah. And half the job. Another ribbon. Like yeah. Half the job feels like beauty pageant. Yes. Part of it like doing in like, you know, being all dressed up, meeting people shaking or what do you call it?

Touching elbows with like people in the industry kind of deal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you're like. Oh, I think of meant. Definitely not what I, like, had intent. Like, that was not my 12 year old dream was like, oh my God, I want to like get dressed

up all the time and like make like, no, it's like there's joy in that too in moments for sure because it like makes the dream feel very real where I'm like this is also something that little me would love like want to do. I literally, this is like, this is me trying to be dreamy and whimsical. I like had, I found a Pinterest quote that said like do it for the little kid inside of you. And I like made that my background for like a few days of. of press this week because I was like I need motivation. I was like even this stuff like little me used to pretend to like do interviews.

Yeah and like my sister and I would like make fake commercials or like pretend we were on talk shows. And I'm like that is like yes it's not the acting part that I'm like really love so much. But it's still part of the whole dream that like 11 year old me would be like you get to like go on a podcast and call it work. That's true. That kind of stuff is like the perfect reminder to be like I I am freaking out if I look back at 10 year old meeting.

She's losing your mind. Yeah. That's true. And it's also it's because it's. It's exhausting. Like it's really, really tiresome and it's hard. And like also like you said, there's just so many other hats you have to wear like in addition to what you actually want to wear. So I get that. But it's also like then I feel I feel so guilty being like oh it's so tiring. It's like well like it's a job like it's like that's I think the weirdest part is acting is like

disguised or like just being a public person is disguised. It's like you're just having fun all the time and it's not a job where I'm like I used to get freaked out when I like wanted to like have an off day or like I wanted to leave a red carpet I'd be like oh my god like you're not grateful enough like someone would die to be in your position yeah I was like actually like there's no job in the world that you're not going to have certain days or you're just like I just want to be at home like I don't want to do that I'm like that's that's okay but at 12 13 14 14 14 none of it never happened to me like I literally would be so sad when I was wrapped like yeah so I'm like oh like you're done for the day I'd be like are you like are you sure like are you sure you don't want to another setup like I just like never

want to leave and then when it changed to me being like wait I'm like exhausted I like had this whole like identity crisis and I was like no I actually this is just a job now like it's like And it's still like a job that I adore, but it's a job. Like it's like you're an adult. This is a career. Every job has its like. Every job. Totally.

You're going to be tired sometimes. And you're right though in the sense too that it feels ungrateful. Like I talk about that in therapy a lot too. Like like feeling guilty for being like. Conscious. Yeah. Averse to it. Like I'm like I'd rather just do literally anything else.

I don't want to do that kind of deal. So I get that. And it's also like I did a talk last week. I went to like FSU in Florida and I did like a college talk thing. And one of the girls asked me like, oh, because again, like, I'm like an internet dickhead. So it's like a different kind of perception and everything than you're talking about. You're way busier than me, probably. But like, you're always, dude, you are everywhere.

Like every time. You're always, I'm like, how did you have time for that? How did you? You're literally on every carpet ever. Oh, girl, because I'm not you. So I have to make sure they don't forget me. But like, but we don't. And you're funny every day.

That's effort. That's so exhausting. It's hard being a clown. I literally think about Mary Beth Barone when she said, do you see me as a clown or a sexual being like literally I'm like I am a clown obviously I I think you can be both yeah see me true okay two face that's my two face clown sexual being um but I I talk about that a lot and I when I did my talk last week this girl had asked like oh like what's been the hardest part about like becoming a public person and also like do you have any advice for people who want to do the same thing which is being

influencer I'm assuming so I told her I was like well the first thing the hardest thing is privacy like It's like giving giving up what you did not realize you were giving up. Like it's it feels like, oh, wow, that would be crazy to be recognized by people. And then it's awful in like many, many, many ways. And I told her, I was like, I don't think the Illuminati is real. In fact, I know it's not. There's a very real evil existing in this industry, but it's not the Illuminati. I could tell you that right now.

I was like, but I do think, you know, on the Illuminati theories, they say you have to sell your soul in order to get fame. I was like, there is like a piece of you you have to give away. in order to get famous, or to be famous or to be someone, like be a public person. You have to give away something. And I was like, and I just would like double, triple, quadruple check that it's worth it to you. Because for most people it's not. Like you, like you said, it's hard. It's fucking hard.

And 90% of it is shit that you're like, I didn't realize this came with the job. Right. Okay. It's a lot of other jobs within one. Right. But then I'm also, I don't know, I'm like every job, like, if I think that, then I look at what my friends are doing it, and I'm like, that's so hard. I agree.

Everyone has everyone's job is so hard and I'm like, but I'm getting like salads for free every day for lunch and getting driven around and like they're not. And that adds to the guilt. Yeah. Like it's like I truly like we all have hard parts of our job. But like the reward that we get can be so disreportional of like. Amen. I'm getting so hyped up for something that I'm like everyone else has a hard job that like no one is getting praised for that or like who's driving them home. Or financially.

Yeah. Totally. That like still at the end of the day I'm like, I'm like such a lot of. I agree. And I said to, I said to them too, because I got this when I was in my mid-20s. So I was like, so I was aggressively normal before this. I went to college. I graduated.

I got jobs. I worked, lived paycheck to paycheck, did all that stuff. So I was like, so I would never sit here and tell you all like, this is the hardest job in the world. Of course it's fucking not. Yes. And I was like, the only, the hardest part about this job is that the problems you have, there is no guidance for until you meet other people in the industry. Then that's your like guidance.

There's no handbook. There's no thing that you sign. that's like, hey, by the way, you're never going to be able to go anywhere and not be known ever again. Hope you're cool with that. Like, you just find out. So I was like every job has their issues, but I would never trade this job. Yeah, especially having had real jobs. I've had real jobs too.

And I was like, those are way fucking harder. Right. And like, I also feel like what's weird for this stuff is like, people just expect you to know what you're doing. Like I always am like, thank God I started at 12 because you were allowed to be confused. You were allowed to ask questions. I was allowed to like, like, just be very vocal. about why I didn't know what I was doing, because it was like, oh, she's a kid, it's okay.

Right. But I'm like, that experience of, like, my castmates who work on ExoKitty being their first job, it's like, now you seem like maybe you're unprofessional or you're unprepared. And I'm like, that's not fair. Because if you put me in any other job, I wouldn't have no idea what I'm doing. And I would need training. I would need someone tell me like what lingo means or even like, what does it mean when like, what does this word stand for?

Like, things that are just like they're assumed that like you show up on set and you're supposed to know these things. And no one's teaching you is like, that's so unfair. Yeah. I'm like very lucky that I had the background. when I was a kid so I was allowed to like mess up and yeah like imperfect because now you're expected to like know what you're doing you show up just because immediately yeah and I'm like if you like made me be like a chef tomorrow I like showed up in the kitchen why don't I'm doing like any sort of spot you put me in that wasn't a set I would be lost so like that's so unfair to

adult actors who are starting now that's true and that's and that's also a good thing that your fellow actors on the show have you to be able to like ask that's why I always tell people in this industry make friends totally be nice make friends like connect to people because you're going to and need them. It's so important. When you have questions about stuff and things, who are you going to ask? Totally. I was like, my family doesn't know.

Yeah, yeah. Same. I think that's the, the best part about like, one of the best things about this business is the friends I've made. And I'm sure you said one of the chicken girls is one of your best friends. Yes. Shout out chicken girls. Shout out to the chicken girls.

Yes. No, there's honestly, like I've made friends and I was like 15, 16 in L.A. that like I am still so close with and like are like such a wonderful community here and I'm just so lucky that I met them when I did like that pivotal time of like right I was not cool in high school I was like figuring out that like I went to regular public school while trying to figure out career stuff and like high school's weird for everybody but like it definitely was weird at many times and like to have such strong friends like in the industry in that era was so important and then also like I was lucky to make good friends at home too but like having kind of my

Hannah Montana life of having a community in this world and in that world was like, no, dead ass. I was going to say you literally were Hannah Montana. I was like always so honored. So honored by that compliment. I was like, yes, you get the limo out from. I was like, that is, that's me guys. But I definitely like really leaned into that in high school of being like, well, I have two worlds like this weird crazy double life of like,

it was weird. And it totally like of being like, oh, I'm going to recuperate. And like tomorrow I have like a biotest that like I need to run into my like school. Like I'm so not cool in. But then like I'm like hyped up in work wise. Like I'm like getting recognized on the street. But like I'm getting like so deeply not popular at school. Like it was such a weird.

It was weird. It was crazy. Well, speaking of we'll pivot back to Exo Kitty. What are you excited for people to see in this new season? This episode is brought to you by Two Good and Co coffee creamers. How do you take your coffee? Piping hot, iced, strong, brothy? If you love rich, creamy goodness and delicious flavor in every sip,

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where like I feel like I could talk like it was like illegal it was the same of like same with like Noah being season two it was like you cannot speak like they changed like laura jean was mary jane in all of our scripts because they were like in case someone gets a hold of it they don't want them to see the word lj like they're like we're being so top secret about it then now i'm like whoa i can actually like publicly talk about this so excited for people to see that i think it's so fun to have that dynamic back and like just it really brings it to all the boys world and like that feeling back to the series which was so fun and like i don't know i think we're doing a lot of things that the fans have been asking for so I'm very excited to see their reaction and like I can't wait to see

everybody's like I can't wait to see everybody's like losing their minds it's so fun it's so fun to see that like they care so much like I'm like that's so special like that's so cool that like you did this with your time like you actually wanted to make an edit or you like care about this character's story like yeah I'm just I'm very excited for them to see it how was it working with Lana again so fun not a single minute had like we didn't skip a beat like I was like I feel like I'm 14 again and you're my big sister and like we are playing the same games we used to play.

Like, it just, like, felt like we were right back in the movies. And, yeah, it was awesome. Oh, my God, I'm so excited. I was like, I got to lock in. I got to lock in on Exo Kitty, obviously. Okay, well, to pivot now, we're going to go, we do have some fun facts. I'm so excited.

About you. And then we'll hopefully, we'll link it back to Exo Kitty, obviously. But this first fun fact says on the first day of shooting Exo Kitty, you had a scene where you had to struggle getting a suitcase up the stairs and a bystander who didn't know. know you were filming saw you having trouble with your bag and tried to come help you. That's really nice. That's sweet.

I was like, poor man, we're in a TV show right now. Get out. Get out. Get out. He's like coming in. He's like, he was walking up the stairs from like the subway station and was just like, look at this poor, sad girl struggling with her one big ass suitcase. And he just like picked it up.

And I was so confused because I thought I was a background actor that I was like, you were just taking a moment. I'm like, congratulations. You saw an opportunity and you took it. And then we all realized he was not an actor. And he was just a nice. man trying to help me take out my suitcase man that's so nice it was so nice evidence of a man being nice for one I know I was like maybe in Korea they're actually kind like I was like this is incredible

but it also was like someone was obviously like kind of chilling and not doing their jobs because how do you get there like everyone how did he get that how did he get that like I'm like you're like you are in the show you are on my mark like how did you get here but I still think to this day he doesn't know like like he literally just like carried it and kept walking like he wasn't even there and we were like all confused and like yelling cut like he he saw you struggling he said damn i'll help you walking around the world being like remember that girl that i helped way back in 2022 and there was that sad little girl with her big suitcase i'm such a good citizen and he doesn't know imagine he was just like god i saw this girl and she was really struggling today and then like

she's being a buffoon with her suitcase he still doesn't know how was it shooting in korea oh it was crazy it was so fun that honestly season one was like a whole different experience from two and three because it was COVID and it was like a whole different version of the city a different version of production like everything and then getting season two of like getting to really explore and like it it feels like we are also all at international school like we all live in the same building it's like your castmates are down the street we're like all getting like fried chicken at 2 a.m. after work like just like feeling like we also are living that life of like being at international school was so fun and Korea is such a cool place and I still feel like I've only explored like a tiny corner of it like so I all I bet

it's like expansive I've never been to Korea but I really want to go yeah yet and It sounds awesome as hell. I feel like the only international place. First of all, this job has taken me internationally more than I've ever been ever in the history of time. But I've only ever been to like Europe and then Mexico, obviously. But only Europe. I haven't explored Asia yet. I got to get into it.

I'll give you recommendations. Oh, yeah. Please do. Oh my God. I'm going to take you up on that. You can't take it back. It's on camera. Okay.

Next one fact. It says you were simultaneously acting while going to college and studying sociology and creative writing. So true. Party pants. Okay. So true. You were doing, a sociology major. My, my fiance was a sociology major. No way. Mm-hmm. You sure was queen. Yes. Speaking compare notes to get into deep conversations about why the world is the way it is. It's very fascinating. I love sociology. I, like, honestly, like that was such a perfect major for me. Like, I thought it was so fun. But I always wanted to go to school. And I always, like, thought I would go to UBC specifically, which was like my university is where my parents met and where like my dad, like has to be. PhD from there. My sister has her undergrad and her master's from there. Like, everybody, my whole family went to UBC and like my grandparents and aunts and uncles all went there. Like, it was such like, like, I had a UBC hoodie when I was like six years old of being like one day I'm

going to go to this school. That then once my career like started, I was like, I still want to go. Because I still want that chapter of like I want to be a university like student. I want to be a college kid. I want to like had that space to also make friends my age because I feel like so much of my job. I was 12 with like a bunch of 50 year old on set. Like it's like you're not, you're not with people in your same stage of life. I was like, I want to just, like, be, like, a young adult and, like, have that space to mess up and figure things out and, like, go to a frat party and see if you hate it. Like, those things are I'm like, you don't get to do when you're working.

Like, it's so different. You're, like, you grow up very quickly in some senses. So I was just, like, very excited to have that chapter. And it was, like, it did not disappoint. Like, exceeded expectations. I love that. You're very Emma Watson. Like, when she was, like, I'm going to college.

She's a coolest person in the world. Except, like, I am a college dropout. Emma Watson is not. Then I. did not finish my degree. And that's okay. Sorry, you succeeded tremendously at your job. That's the hope. That's the hope. I said, this is someone recently

and they're like, you're in really good company. You know how many, like how many good people are college dropouts? I was like, thank you so much. That's so true. It's true. Also, I got fired right before I did this and a lot of people I've met have gotten fired right before they blew up. And so I was like, you want to be famous on TikTok, you got to get fired. Go get fired. That's actually true. I'm just kidding. Do as I say, not as I do. Whoa.

No, fancy. I'm not. I didn't actually, I don't even know you just said, but it sounded good. I said do as I say not as I do okay yeah it sounded like we were in Hamilton all you are rapping well that's because I'm a hundred and you're 11 so like I have a lot of I have wise wisdom I have a lot of isms in me that are very old man right that's why I got a lot of I like it and I love that you honestly I love that you still pursued it even if you didn't finish you can always go back and finish too totally and it's served its purpose and I feel like I learned so much and like gained so much just like as a young adult also and like made a really

good community and like it was the best thing ever but and unfortunately you're a very talented actor so i hope this was the right i hope that was the right choice and i can keep working away oh my gosh you'll be fine you're too talented to not succeed at literally anything you touch um okay it says in 2025 you hiked the dolomite mountains oh people who did do research i loved i know Amanda likes get real thank you to the fun fact team um also like the the suitcase one i was like trying to hide how much taken back it was because i don't remember like when did i say that i'm probably That was for hopefully 2023. And you fooled me.

I thought you were very like, wow. I was like, I talk about that all the time. I was actually my number one topic in most interviews. So of course you asked. No, I like, that's like really niche. So like good job. Yeah, Amanda likes to create people out. That's kind of cool.

That's like your full time job. You get to like be an FBI agent and like it not be weird. Right. My in-house Nardwar. That's like. Yeah. That's why I said. She's my in-house Nardwar.

Nard war is like from my hometown and I feel very special. Like he's like he at my universities. This is such a side tangent. But he like does shows at my university. radio station. And it's like our big claim to fame. Like we're like UBC Nardwar, go Nardwar. Anyway, to me, you are Nardwar and the Rock. I guess what I'm trying to say is you're everything you're notherst. Actually what I'm trying to say is you're all the icons in my in my mind. You fulfill them. Oh my gosh. What was the question? Oh yeah. You hiked the the dolomites.

I did. I did and it was like the best thing ever. I loved it so much. We never thought we'd see the day that me and my mom be like are like trying to be athletic and now I've like fully been in like now I'm like on my athletic grind and like I love running I love working out but like we never thought that would happen like my sister and my dad had been like super competitive athletes their entire life like my dad used to be like semi pro my sister was like super super high level and like all of university in high school track and field was her thing and then my dad is a triathlete and like a cyclist cross country skier also so they were like doing all the things and my mom and I would like cross-country ski like twice a year and like be like snow like when actually we just like this is pretty

it's like we're like snow shooting basically like we were so not in that world and I did track when I was little that is my like my true lore is that I track and field was my first love and then acting came like I was obsessed my iPod background used to be I heart track like I heart track I made it on piccolos I heart track it was like cut out on like a background of like a track like get like photo like stock image I No, like that... You're very influential, you. Clearly. Why have I brought them up so many times in one conversation?

But that was like, I was so obsessed with Tracking Field. And I was like the PC champion. Shout out in my province for like sprinting and long jump, which was ironic because I was like two feet tall. Like everybody else was way. I had like the last person to grow in all of the city of Vancouver. Which run was it? Yeah, a 60 meter sprint.

Six years? Because my life was so small. But also the 100 meter I did also do. I did 60. Okay. I was going to say they go down to 16. It's like two steps. I killed that and then long jump which was always ironic anyway that was my whole life then I found acting and then I decided I hated sports but my sister and my dad can tint my dad's always been like crazy athlete yeah and then like a few years ago I like slowly got into running and now I'm like actually doing races and like love running but that like took a while marathons no absolutely not like 10 K's we love 10 K's a marathon the LA marathon like I just yeah I just saw I was like I love running but not that long right six hours that's a whole school day and you're still

Right. And also like paying to go do it. No thanks. It is crazy how much. No, it is crazy. And then and I literally said this recently. I'm like, and you take a picture of me. And you, when I cross there are the worst pictures ever. A picture of me. You, you put my time out there. And they're like, look at this bit. She runs 10 minute miles. That's fucked up. And they like announced you on like the big like you come through. Yeah. There comes Drew. Yeah. Last all barely made it in four hours. Wow for a whole marathon. That's really how they're violating my hip like. Right. Like, right. They're violating my hip like. No, it is a wild concept. But all to say, we got into hiking. And then my sister and my dad did like a crazy Dolomites hiking trip. Like they did like hut to hut like wild journey like a few years ago. And me and my mom were like, we could never. And then little did we know a few years later, we would get on this train of we like hiking. And the four of us went on a hut to hut in the dolomites of like, we stayed at five different places.

And you like hike to the next place every day. But some of them were like very like actually like hut. vibes and some of them were like very like fancy lodge that were like way nice than I'm expected. But it was so fun because you didn't have to plan anything. Like all you did was like every day was like six hours of hiking in like the most beautiful places and like that's all you had to focus on. Like I feel like trips when I'm stressing me out of like what are we going to do or like where are we going to go or we didn't go to like where we're going to eat and like what are you want to do. And this is like wait, there's

literally nothing else you can do and you have to keep going because that's where you're sleeping tonight. If you have to just keep going. It was so fun. I loved it so much. And you could breathe. So much. So much. So much like. I'm sure. it's beautiful it was not crowded all it feels like hanging a piece of cheese in front of me and I'm like chasing it like if I do that hike because I'm like well I'm not gonna have nowhere to sleep I mean there is cheese at all the lot of it's close enough they have I think we ate my sister ate spaghetti balinese eight days in a row because I want our favorite foods but every hut even if they didn't have any money food they all them all of them all of them serve these spaghetti bowlinoles I just imagine your sister hearing you say that and going all right no no no like she had spaghetti she literally had bolognais eight days in a row I counted it's partly made of bolognais at about I'm just about I think she would proudly put this, like, I think she posted about it on her story, actually. Like, she loves, she would, she would, she would, yeah, she took a photo of every Bolognais she ate. And she's like, damn. That was her, like, her photo diary of the trip.

I was like, oh, how is the mountain? She was like, mountains. Let me show you balanais. Because it was everywhere. So now we know the dolomites are actually. Well, now that I know Bolognaz is in the picture, maybe I'm interested. It's fun for multiple reasons. Yeah, maybe I need to look into it.

I want to go on more hiking trips. I actually want, like, I want, like, a sponsorship to, like, to do more hiking or, like, I I feel like that such a fun. like random side quest of like doesn't really match with X-O-Kitty, but it's like very much like part of my life now, but people are surprised by it. So I'm like, let's do that more often. Like it was so fun. Yeah, they have so many running apps now. They have like run a Strava, like all those ones. That's the one where they logging. They're like, you're averaging a 10 minute mile. I'm like, okay. I don't want to, I don't do. Don't be doing that. No. I know I'm going slow. It feels like

like shame. Okay. Next fun fact says in elementary school your mom used to come in and make dumplings with your class during Chinese New Year. Okay, I think that's the craziest one yet. Also, like, did you watch, like, the Chinese New Year video from Disney Channel? Like, I feel like that's, they're, like, we did do a special. Yes, and I'm like, hi, I wear it during some because I'm Chinese and I celebrate Lunar New Year. It means the cycle of the moon touches. I feel like that's, like, one of the only times we've ever talked about this.

That's incredible. I like Chinese New Year because my mom comes into my class. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. But true facts. All, all true. It was so, I honestly feel so lucky that, like, growing up, I was, like, in, like,

one of the most Asian places in North America. Like, Vancouver has such a large Asian population, like, a lot of Chinese population, too. And a lot of mixed kids. Like, we had so many halfies that it was so normal to be a happy. Like, it was just like, oh, like, so many people. So all my classmates were, like, there was always a big population of, like, half Asian kids specifically. So it was, like, very normal.

And, like, I felt very, like, celebrated because of it, which, like, I know. Yeah, beautiful thing. Yeah, beautiful thing and not every happy has that experience or not like, just like every Asian person in general, I was like wearing my trink son to school on Chinese New Year and being like, let me bring you guys Lacies. Let me like, I was so excited about it and like wanted to show that off that my mom often like, she also was a kindergarten teacher.

So she was like very used to like, she like love that type of setting. Yeah. And we'd come and we would make dumplings and it was so special. Or she would come and like do it like read a book about Chinese New Year and like answer kids questions or like play games. It was so fun. It was so special. And I'm so glad that we could. could scare you with that fact. Yeah. And your mom sounds like a joy. She is. Your mom sounds sweet as

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It gets up right now. With someone, okay. Well, you know, sometimes Instagram is like a little archive, like a blast of the past, if you will. And that is certainly that. That's from 10 years ago. You are so cute. I can't stand it.

I look like a ball. I literally my hair line and everything about that is like, she's so spherical. But that was one of the highlights of my career. This was Outswad. This was my very first show. And it was like that was my very first day on set. I actually distinctly remember where we are to. Like that was at the very end.

We just wrapped up. My mom like came out with her little like iPhone 7 maybe. Like it was like way back in the day. This was her first iPhone also. Totally side note. But she had a flip phone up until. I did this show and then she was like, oh, dang, I need to buy an actual phone because I need to take pictures of her. She had a flip phone.

You made your mom get on the grid. Out of anybody who's ever had a flip phone, my mom was the last one to like, to the turnover. To be like, oh, a touch screen. This is the reason why. So you could take this photo specifically. And that is me and my little suit. I was, it was the best show ever. That is so fucking cute.

That's crazy. I love that your mom took pictures. Oh. She was like, I got to get rid of this brick so I can get a new phone. If she was here right now, she'd be taking pictures of all of us right now, like constantly. That's what my mom does. My mom takes pictures of everything. And then she like gets mad because like I'm always like mom, I'm always like mom,

I'm taking pictures. And then like I'll be like, can you send me that picture? And she's like, oh, oh. So if I didn't take that picture, you want to have an Instagram story to post. It's an extremely universal mom experience because the same thing with my mom. We were like, mom, please, mom. And then my mom and then later I'm like, can you make a shared album and you have to it? Yeah.

And I'm like, can I have that pick you took earlier? Yeah. Yeah. It's a, we have to do it. It's a right of passage. Exactly. That's what they want to. Yeah, just like we let my mom take her picks and her vids. Okay, this last one says on July 25th, 2016, you posted this gift of you dancing with the caption,

doing a happy dance because of 500 followers. It says now you have 5.7 million followers. Congratulations. Thank you so much. That is a boomerang. Let me be clear. You're making your own boomerang. That was a boomerang.

It was the boomerang era. That's me in my childhood home backyard wearing my finest H&M outfit. And I was feeling cute. I had half my hair up. I literally remember that so clearly. And I was like, Mom, time to do a Boomerang photo show. Because guess what I just had 500 followers? You said, Mom, get that new iPhone.

Get outside. And that was taken on her phone for sure. And she was so confused by how boomerangs were. For sure. And I think I used the, you know, like the little sideways like, woo! Limoji that has like the confetti coming out. There was like a bunch of those in the caption. And I was feeling so fly.

I mean, I think I was like 13. That was like, I had the most followers not even in my high school. Like, I felt so cool. I remember hitting 5,000 followers while I was like probably in grade nine. And that was like, like, world shaking. I was like, this is like, there's no way. Because I was like, that's bigger than like my high school population. Like, and they all follow me.

Yeah, that was crazy. That is crazy. To think about it now is even crazier. Yes. Freaking out over 500 is crazy now. Totally. That's, yes. I want to be like, guess what?

guess what's going to happen in a few years. I'll tell you what, you're cute as hell as a kid, so it doesn't surprise me at all that you were doing well as a child actor. Get that cute kid in my office. I'll never forget, and I have deleted this, because whoever just stopped my Instagram to find these, you'll know that it wasn't there. But I remember posting on International Taco Day.

I posted a photo of like a stock image of tacos on my feed and just said, happy International Taco Day. It's just a stock image It's a stock image It's a stock image across it And I remember even at the time My sister would be like

Now what was that What was that? She's like why didn't At least it could have been you with a taco Like she's like that's not weird Like she said we could have a whole photo shoot Like let's go Taco Bell And then she was like all there for it

But she's like you really just googled Taco Yeah you open the tab on your iPhone You found and post that on your feed Nothing but Happy International Taco Day And I remember that one Because I only deleted it a few years ago when I came across it. I was like,

this is still here. Yeah, that clean sweep, you need to do that once people start following you. I think I should do that again. This is reminding me. In the car, after this, I will be going to sweep what's new. You have to.

You have to go back and double check. And honestly, I've joked about that before where I've done a sweep on mine, but everything I was getting rid of or archiving, they're just humiliating. Right. Like, they just make me look humiliating, I guess is the point.

It's just so, I had one. it's similar to your taco thing but not i took a picture of like a burrito i was eating oh but i but i had to put a like a huge blown out filter on it so it looks like bright orange it honestly doesn't like appetizing at all right this is gone now too so you can never find it but i literally yeah and i took a picture of it and i literally just wrote rain cuddle buddy my burrito yeah okay let that sink in for a bit i'm sitting in the shame of it you guys know that dare i ask what year That was like 2010, I want to say, and you were, I think, one. Right.

So I was in high school. I was learning to walk when you were like, this is my cuddle buddy. And I was like, I could step for the first time. Right, exactly. I respect it. Yeah. I would have liked the post. I think I was like 15.

And I remember when I posed a little too old, I'll admit it, a little too old, just a little. But I felt like. The cuddle part is what's throwing me off the most. If you were just like, burrito on a rainy day, I could almost pass. But like, you were, you had your arms dropped around that for me. Sorry, Miss Happy International Taco Day. All of us can't be very literal. We love to post about our magazine food adventures.

Why? There's something about that. Yours is so factual. Mine is trying to be cute and funny. I'm like, have you seen the calendar up? I don't think you're aware of that today is international talk. Nobody's talking about this. It's international talk about it.

No one needed to know who you were cuddly on any day either. You're right. You're right. Both pieces of information are very useless. People could have gone unnoted. Like they didn't need to know. Yeah, you're right. There was no, no read.

And honestly, when I look back at stuff like that, I think to myself like, yeah, it's no wonder I ended up in show business. I, like, needed attention clearly. And I was like always trying to entertain in some regard. Even if it didn't have attention on me necessarily, I was still trying to entertain the people. I was like, maybe you'll enjoy this picture of my food. You posted cuddly burritos so you could have a podcast now. That was why.

That was the trajectory, really good pipeline. That was my drag path or whatever the fuck they're talking about on TikTok. It was that posting my wet style burrito. That's all I don't like that at all. you were, it was, you were cuddling it, wet style. I wasn't actually cuddling it. No, I know, but like, that gets, that's even worse. Again, you are too literal.

Yeah, you're right. This is me. I can't be a dreamer. This is me. I know, Andrea, I said, wet style. Girl, that literally doesn't make any sense. Like, was it raining on the burritos? Right.

It was a rainy day. So what does the rain have to do with it? I'm the worst. Like, I'm no fun. But I also think this is why I'm going to be a good, like, director when they are good because I'm so detailed-oriented to a fall. Right. Like, it's really.

No, it's funny. The whimsy is gone, though. It's like, explain that. Let's draw that one out. Bring in the mood. Yeah, it's bad. You know what? It's all right, though, because you, first of all, are incredibly smart and incredibly talented.

Thank you so much. But also, you're a proven star, so it really doesn't matter. You don't need the whimsy. You're living it. You're living the whimsy currently in your career. But that reminds me to kind of close us out, like, what is any advice you have for any, like, aspiring actors? Especially young people, because you're so young. you're so young. I honestly think

like you, if you think it's never going to happen, it actually might. Because I truly never thought I was going to happen. And I often say, like, I thought it was the same as being like an astronaut. Like it was like, well, you'd like people want to be actors, but like you don't act, you don't become an actor. Like I was like, that's

not like the thing that's going to happen to me though. And that like, the fact that it did like all the time now, because I think again, I fall into that like, who might have things that I want to achieve? Like, but what if they just don't? And I'm pause what you thought was never gonna happen did happen so why like who are you to believe that's not gonna happen again like all the things that could be just around the corner but like honestly keep believing that it's possible and like keep being kind to

yourself in the process because you are the only person that's gonna be with you all the time and like have your own back be your own cheerleader and be your own friend when you have to be because like I think that goes very far and even if you like sometimes it feels silly or feels cheesy to like I don't know I used to like make reminders on my phone that were like kind to me so I would like wake up or like in the middle the day we get a reminder being like you got this or like you can do this and it's like literally just like i said that reminder yesterday like it's like it that's just from me but it's like getting past me it's past me give me you a text message right now being like hey i thought you might need this and like

stuff like that is like so wholesome and i think actually very helpful of like just knowing you have your own back like knowing that like whatever is happening like at least like you like you like you're there for you like totally and no matter what you're like trying to achieve or what type of career you're going into I feel like having your own back and like even being quiet cheerleader like you don't have to be like create like I'm not super like outspoken about it or like wow I think I'm the best like I think I wish sometimes I had more of an ego because I think sometimes it's helpful to like take up that space I wish I had that but even like quietly being like I know I know I can do this and like I have my back I feel like that that mix with the belief of like literally even it feels impossible who are you to think it can't happen like amen

it totally see who says you don't have whimsy yeah that was so whimsical right there Thank you so much. Hell yeah. And what are, what are, I want to ask you one more question. What are some other dreams you have? Oh, I have so many dreams. Yeah, what else do you have? I really want to do movies and I really, like, I haven't been in a movie since To All the Boys.

And that was like, like, I've never been in something that's released in theaters. And I think that would be just like so special or something like, so, like, dreamy about that as well. I'm like, whoa, you can like buy ticket to movie theater and like, it's a project that I get to be a part of. And I really like, I want to just explore different. different types of projects like I think doing like an action movie would be so far or something I've done and so fun like something in that world or something that's like very grounded like my dream person to work with like Greta Gerwick like to do a ladybird type of movie would be like that's my like dream right now oh I love that

and I loved that movie I love that movie and like that style of like it's it's grounded but there's still humor in it but there's like a realness to it and like the tone and the way that it's shot is so specific and like it just gets me so excited and I there's so many things I want to do and those are definitely top of the list but I also love musicals so much like we've already established and I think that just adds so much magic like I would love to do like a huge production in that way because there's so much more to like learn and dive into and enjoy and like I have so many dreams and I just hope so I hope they slowly come true this is the place to do it this is the place to manifest it that is the chair to do it in I put two dolls

on Broadway from that from that chair you are magical me acting like I'm taking credit for it. We just manifested it together on the show and it came true. Many dreams have come true on this show, so I'm happy for you. I'll come back when I'm doing my press tour for my Greta Gerwig movie. There you go, and then we'll be like and you said it here. And I said it here. Yes, exactly. On the comment section.

Yes, on the comment section. Specifically, but thank you so much for coming and hanging out. Thank you so much for having me. This was so fun. Yeah, you're the best. You're a hoot. Thank you. I love you. I feel the same. I'm going to like, every time I see him, there goes the rock. It's just, it's never, I don't think

And Nordwar. Yeah. Like the Rock Ward. The Rock X Nord War. Yeah. That's yours. So special. Thank you so much.

Oh my God. You are to me. I love you. I think you're amazing. And I think you're so talented and I can't wait to watch you win an Oscar. Oh my gosh. Thank you. I can't wait to see you there.

And that's going to be it for this episode of the comments section show. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Anna. Anna, where can everybody find you? The maybe two people that don't know you that are watching now. You can watch season three of Exo Kitty. on Netflix, April 2nd, and you can find me an Instagram just out my name, Anna Cathcart.

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