The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - REALLY HER Ft. Meg Stalter | Episode 216

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

It’s really her!! Meg Stalter is on the show this week! Drew and Meg talk about clone accusations, being dressed matronly, Timothee Chalamet’s reaction to Meg wearing Kylie’s orange outfit during award season, poisoning people in Shakespeare improv, cake walks, pretending to be a lawyer, the Rainforest Cafe, and so much more.Meg IG: https://www.instagram.com/megsstalter/?hl=enMeg Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@megstalterFollow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/Visit Macy’s to discover the new Calvin Klein euphoria elixirs.Euphoria Season 3 premieres April 12 on HBO Max, with new episodes every Sunday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm like, well, lawyers could go to the Rainforest Cafe. Like, why does that prove I'm not a lawyer? Like, I'm like, I'm like, hey, don't make me take you to court. This was after one of my meetings. Everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show. Sorry, me, your favorite. Everybody knows me who cares about me. On to the guest today.

We have the iconic, the legendary, the hilarious Meg Stalter. Woo! Welcome to the pod queen. I love you. I love you. And when people see this, they're going to say, those two people get along so well in your life and on screen. And it's obvious on camera.

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And solar elixir is bright and. radiant. Joy in a bottle. They're ultra-concentrated for a scent that really lasts. Find your euphoria with the Euphoria Elixir Collection by Calvin Klein. I will say this. Our interview, when I got to interview at the actor awards. Yeah. In the comments. You hated me. I loved you. No, could you imagine if you said, you really, really stunk that day. I mean, you were a tough pill to swallow at the time. I'll be honest. Imagine I tell you that now. You're like, I wanted to bring you on to tell you. That made me really uncomfortable. Are you open to feedback in this current state?

I'll say in the comments, a lot of people were saying, like, this is the first time I've seen someone who gets Meg and like, understands her. And now I can actually breathe. That feels amazing. I agree. And they're like, I've, someone wrote. And I agree, by the way, that you are the only one that gets me. I'm not kidding.

When something similar to that with me is like whenever I have someone, I'll probably get it with your episode. But when I have other huge celebrities, like when I had Chapel, when I had Cynthia, Are you saying that? I'm a huge celebrity. Yes, of course I am. Of course I'm, just kidding. That makes me so amazing.

Whenever I have someone that's beloved, right? I'll get comments that are like, I just like really wish that the host would stop talking. That is so crazy. On my show. And I literally, with Chapel, it was out of control. Everyone was like, I just feel like she's talking a lot. But could you imagine if Chapel came on and talked the whole time and you said,

and you didn't say anything? I sat in silence. And then she said, I'm really excited to talk about my family by myself. Don't say anything, please. That would be so scary. She would never do that. No, questions. Questions at the end.

Yeah. No, I know. I had to make a video and I literally said, like, unfortunately, when you watch my show, you're going to have to hear me talk, unfortunately. Well, I wouldn't want to hear someone by themselves. I love chapel. I wouldn't want to hear her by herself unless I'm listening to her album.

Yeah, exactly. By herself would be scary. I'd be scared. And she doesn't want you to not talk. No, I know. Well, obviously, I was like, I was like the only interview she did that year. So I was like, right, so clearly she enjoys hearing me talk. If you don't enjoy it, I'm sorry to, I'm sorry to hear that. I would catch her on Jimmy Fallon. Say that. People won't say that Drew talked more and I wish that crazy white bitch would shut off. I know they're going to say that. I already know it. I already know it. The comment I get the most. Yeah, I only like her in small doses. Keep her on hacks as a smaller part. I'm serious They will not say that to you

I'm serious Well I mean You say that now But once I start acting Once my acting career takes off bitch They're gonna say they're gonna wish they never heard from me In the first place They're gonna always want to hear from you

They will always be trying to arrest me Well that's also how I feel I think honestly we're the same and that And it is like very annoying to see Especially when you're joking around And like riffing with someone And they're like I don't know

did anyone feel like maybe this was for real and maybe they actually fucking dislike each other? You're dumb. You could literally be doing a sketch on a snow and someone would be like, it fell off. Like, I don't know. Like the vibe fell off. I think I watched, oh my God, there's, okay, there's a clip of Timothy Shalameh and Kylie. Timothy's sister walks up to them. Oh, yeah.

Kylie gets up and just goes, I love your dress. The comments, she hates her dress. There's no way. She hates Timothy's sister is hated by Kylie. Timothy's sister never wants Kylie to marry Timmy because of that clip. It's actually out of control.

It's out of control. It's so crazy. The parasycial commentary. This is a perfect example. At the Oscars, like, when I did the snack spit again, there were people in the comments of like, I think it was my clip with Chase Infinity. I was like talking to her, love her.

and so she really wanted a snack she was like oh my god it's perfect I have a pocket whatever the clip was real cute it was like real innocent and I was like they don't have food in there like do you want a snack and then someone goes actually they for sure

do have food in there I actually am shaking right now they're like I'm sorry have you been to the ask she didn't want the snack yeah they actually give you chips in there in a box that's so crazy

someone was like someone literally wrote I'm not kidding to me they wrote the way you're literally lying to her? The way you're scaring her into eating your snacks, she doesn't want your snacks. That's so crazy. The way you're lying to her

is insane. Mind you. It does make you feel, I think, like, and I could kind of put myself in this place and see that they are thinking, no, I know, and I want to be a part of it. And I want to tell them that I do know that they have snacks in there. Right.

And I don't, please, do not cut this podcast. Oh, Megan's acting like, she, she like hates her fans or something because I'm saying that. Do not do a viral clip of me. Please, I can't handle it right now. I really need to win. We're fostering a dog right now. We can't find him at home. Please, don't do that to me. I don't need it right now. I'm serious. Do not do a clip of me in this podcast and make it go viral in a bad way. Someone asked me once, like that blew up like on social and started doing this for a full time. They were like, I'm really scared of getting canceled. do you have any advice for me?

And I said, yeah, my advice is to accept it because it will happen. It happens to everyone. It's just the nature of the game. It doesn't mean you're a bad person. It means that when you are the center of attention, there are going to be people who are praying for something bad to happen. And that's just the unfortunate reality of being online. And I've said this many times too.

I'm like a lot of times when people have a lot to say about influencers and like why it should be okay that they do these dogpiling things. I'm like, some of you wouldn't last a fucking day on the internet. Like, if you, for real, had the following and the attention. Yeah. Some of you wouldn't last a day. Like, there's a reason why people like Ariana Grande have explicitly gone on record saying, I never read anything about me and I never look at comments.

Me too. Yeah. I read all of it too. Every single bit of it. Every single thing. There was someone that message me. I can't, this isn't going to be funny because I can't, I don't know the names of the characters they were saying I looked like.

Okay. But one day the other day, they sent me a character and I, that was like, he was like, wow, you look just like this person. And I thought it was like a fan because I thought that character's cute to me. Right. Like it was like, yeah, it was a bigger character. Right. And it was probably, you know, it was kind of fucked up tea.

But it was kind of like, I thought it was cute. It was probably from like, yeah, some sort of, what's that cartoon where there's like, I don't know, I don't know, some sort of cartoon. Okay. And then he sent me to it. a meaner character and I thought I have to block you now okay two mean characters but can you imagine like that was days apart like you sent me one mean character say I look like this then you wait a couple days send me a worse character yeah they're like actually I want to take that one back

I had a better one I don't care at all no for real I've got the meanest comments I can literally it doesn't matter every single I've huge projects I've worked on for years mean comments about my who cares right but the people saying mean stuff to us like that would be they would care yeah they you would care a ton like it i've said before it takes a very specific kind of personality to survive it you're either like i think that's why in hollywood especially and you probably know this better than i do like when you meet stars like they're either the coolest most awesome person or the worst person you've ever met there's no in between i know and every evil or pure heaven yeah and you know why because it takes a pure person to survive or a truly

evil person to a surprise you know what I'm saying? That is so interesting and I think that's why stars are like it's either one or the other there's never anyone who are like yeah they're okay it's either someone you love dearly or someone that's like I never want to see that person ever again I wish the whole rest of the podcast was naming each celebrity and you saying who you think's evil you think is good Jim Carrey very hard to tell right now isn't it oh my god Jim Carrey that is a crazy thing that happened yeah imagine going to the party and then logging on the Twitter after I know being like, I know, that is so, what are the girls saying about me? Like, what if you logged on and you're like, wow, I wonder if people liked my suit. It's also so crazy. And they log on and you're

like, he literally seemed so happy then. Like, it's so sad because he did seem happy and he seemed like he was getting himself out there. And it really felt like people just like, they can't even tell you you you're not a clone these days. Like, he definitely seemed to be going through it like before. And now it seems like he's back and he's happy to be in the public eye. And he, we will not not see him for 20,000 more years. No, I know. It's like actually, and that's a perfect example of like. And I thought he was a clone for an hour. I was thinking he was. I honestly thought it was AI in the beginning.

Like when I saw the pictures initially, I was like, well, there's no way he looks, you know. When Alexis Stone said on their Instagram that they were, did you see? No, no, no, no. So there's this person who like transforms himself into celebrities. Oh, okay, okay, okay. And they said that that was them as Jim Carrey and people believe that. and I did. Oh, and you were like, oh, well, that makes sense.

Yeah, because the costumes are crazy. Oh, okay. Wait, I think I know who you're talking about. There's like prosthetics. Yeah, I think I know who you're talking about now. Yes. Yeah, well, like... But I believe that.

I believe the clone thing for a minute. And then I was like, this is just him. Yeah, and you know what? It's really mean, you guys, to say someone's clone. It's mean. I mean, I've gotten some pretty mean things. I think men don't get it nearly as much as women do. So you're saying it's a, I mean, if one guy gets a, you're a,

your clone well yeah well i i wish clone was the meanest thing i got shit sorry i would love to be called a clone yeah and i even like i sent meg this but like on our one of our clips like someone wrote a g lp ones are taking over hollywood on the clip of you and i and i literally wrote writing this on a video of the two of us specifically i never seen that i love that i like i like stuff like that. Me too. More of that is so funny.

Someone wrote on one of my Oscars clips, they were like, can you guys please stop inviting this cow to the Oscars or to carpets or whatever the fuck? And then I literally wrote back, or what? What are you going to do about it? Well, and I'm like speechless because I can't imagine someone typing that. Like literally, you're the most beautiful woman. Thank you. I appreciate that.

So are you. So are you. So, sending it. For what? Themselves? Also, the private DMs are so scary because I'm like, you're laughing just to yourself. Yeah, when they're like, ha, ha, ha, like to their own mean shit. It's really crazy.

It's really bad. People online are ill, I would say. It's really crazy. And it's also crazy to, like, get so excited and follow influencers and be so excited for their journey. And then once they get to a certain place, that's what I talk about that a lot, where it's like, it's like, people are so excited for you until you're at a certain place. they're not. It can even be like, it could be colleagues. Yeah, they turn on you kind of thing. It feels like, my sister once described it as like once you become almost unattainable to them or unreachable and like whether they think they could have done what you did or they could be you,

whatever. I get that all the time too. They're like, I could easily do this. Well, what is it? It is not easy. I would be scared to do the celebrity interviews, by the way. Yeah. Do you get nervous? I would be nervous. Kate Hudson. You look amazing tonight. What are you thinking right now? I would not be good at it. I got asked to do something like that before and I'm nervous to do it. Because I think like I'm I could do like if you want awkward like me not doing real

questions but it's really nerve-wracking. You're so funny and you also get real questions. So like for me they'd I know everybody would hate my version of it. they'd be like, you let that person around Kate Hudson and she had a listen to that? I know. Well, believe it or not, I get that too, if you can believe it. I can't. Yeah, which is funny because I've said before too, like my preference of short form interviewing

like that is kind of like breaking the barrier between like celebrity and real person. So it's like asking them or treating them like normal people, I feel like they appreciate it. Most oftentimes they appreciate it because they're so used to not being treated normally. and I think they enjoy it. I think they enjoy being met that way. And that's why I'm like, I like quippy, like silly, like watching. I mean, like, I said this about you and Zach Fox, but I was like you two were my favorite to interview at Actor Awards.

You didn't feel like I was being too crazy and you're kind of like, okay, put the fake cigarette down. No, you were killing me. I wish I could have just talked to you for even longer, honestly, and I would have. I had so much fun with you. Me too, likewise. And your clips did really, really well, obviously because you're fucking hilarious. And that's why I said people were like, this is the first time I've seen someone get her, like, for real.

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filming me you're recording yourself you were so fun there is a clip though of of me walking and you were trying to get my attention it was really sad oh my god I didn't know it was no no no It wasn't sad for you. It's sad for me. I look insane. My girlfriend's way behind me trying to catch up. My publicist. You were like, hi, and I'm waving.

Do you know this clip? I'm waving to like, well, I would call them fans, but they definitely were paid to be there and wave at me. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes, the people across for me. Yes. Those were all creators. Yeah. They were invited.

They were supposed to like, like, cheer for you up. And I was going to my head. And you were kind of like, can I come interview you? And I was like, did to do. to do you? No, when you came to me, you had sunglasses on, so I didn't know if you were looking at me, but I was right in front of you. And then you were going, oh my God, it's you. Oh, thank God. Oh, my God. You're all sorry. You said sorry, I was with the fake fans. Do you feel like the evil around you when you're at award shows? You know what? It's funny you say that because

not. And of course, heaven. Yeah. And of course it's my dream to be there. No, you're right. I'm more feel like a very like tense energy like yes the actor wars is actually the only place I never feel it like I feel it at globes I felt it at the Oscars I felt it at um the Emmys but like at that one that's the only one where everyone feels light and feels like happy and it I think it's because they're voting for their friends and they're having fun together and they're like it's like internal it's not the academy doing it that makes sense so I think it's like this very tense nervous energy but the evil that I feel is when I go to like dinners or breakfast that are hosted by huge like

outlets you know what I'm saying like these like things when they're like oh it's hosted by like these huge outlets and there's lots of A list stars there and then you go and you have like a seated meal and everybody's talking and they're giving each other awards yes I know what you're talking about those that's where I feel the most like hunger gamesy it feels literally it feels very Or catness in the capital. Yeah, it feels like, drink this and throw up so you can eat more. That's how it feels in those. And I was talking to my friend about it too, because I was like, when I was talking to her about it, I was like, sometimes they just say things where I'm like, you guys haven't been normal for a very long time.

Yeah, I was like, I think it's bad outside. At least that's what everyone tells me. That's what feels. That being said, please, Oscars. I love you. Globes. Give us all. Would die for you.

let us come and be the heaven among hell. The actor words, when you guys got to present. Oh, yeah. When your entire bit, I was laughing. Laugh LMAO. It's a hard room. It is a hard room. You said, can people sit down?

We're talking. Well, I think people thought that I was, like, I saw a comment that said, it's so funny, she said that because people were probably standing clapping for them, and that definitely wasn't what was happening. It was that people actually were. walking around. It was an interesting one because people actually walk around during people's speeches. And the other ones, you have to stay seated until the break. Yeah, yeah, like the Oscars and stuff. They're very strict at the Oscars, especially. I bet. I mean, I've not been to the Oscars,

but we'll get there one day. Well, I've been in a real, like, can you fold some chairs while you're in there kind of vibe? Like, that's why I was in there. Like, one time I, when I did Oscar stuff last year. I was backstage during the whole show. And like at one point, I was like walking and I was on live. And I converged with Rachel Senate. And we were like meeting. We were talking. She's like, oh, I love you. I was like, same. And she's like, girl, let's get a drink. And then I go, oh, girl, I'm on the clock. And she goes, right now. And I go, yeah, she goes, that sucks. You're right. It does suck. Loekey. I'd love to get a drink with you, Rachel Senate. Unfortunately, I'm fucked in. They should let you have a drink in between the chair movie. I mean, if it were. I was. I mean, if it were. up to me. They're making you move the chair. They're making the host move the chair. Oh yeah, girl. For me.

Me. Me. Me. Bada of me. That's only for me. Well, guess what? When you win one day, which you will, you'll be sitting there and you'll get, you'll get to tell everybody to move their chairs.

Yeah, then I'm going to tell them to fold up my chair. And you could say, yep. And I'm leaving right after this win. So you can fold up my fucking chair. And then I'll be getting a drink with Rachel Senate. And the cast of I love L.A. I said Rachel Senate, I'll meet you at the bar. When I

Celebrate my big win I do love this person So if they're listening I'm not saying anything bad But maybe this is your chance to know I didn't love what you said Is that there was a costume Or on a show that asked

To wear Spanx for the flashback scenes to have a different look That's fine to say Like if you say that And I literally was like Is that fine to say? No no it's fine for me to say now

I'm saying, it's not fine to say that. Oh, that did sound like I said that. I'm like, that's fine to say. I was in 20 pairs of speech. It's fine to say on the podcast because I've never confronted her. And I'll say, oh, there, her. She, her. But I literally couldn't.

I was like, what do you mean? Like, I just was like, what do you mean? No. Like, a different look. And like, why don't I just go get surgery and get a boob job and have a different look for the flashback scenes? I could get a bob. A different for a different look. That's fucking crazy.

To say to my, and not even in an email. To your face, yeah, is fucking insane. But my feelings weren't hurt. I was more like, this is so unprofessional. That's exactly how I tested. Like, I didn't feel a bit different about myself. I'm like, I love the way I look. Same.

And the character loved the way that she looked. And the flashback and current day. Yeah, we actually have that in common. So. Like, and I didn't want to wear the spinks when you asked me for the original character. So I don't want to wear the, for the flashbacks. I'm like. Oh my gosh, she's slightly more flattened down during this.

It's like they don't even do that much. You can tell this is old because... She definitely lost one pound. Yeah, she was definitely in a different place when she was one pound lighter. And also can I tell you something too? That is so real. And it's like in this industry especially. And I talked to Alon Amar about this too.

But I was like, you like I never feel any differently about my body too. It's feel the same way. I literally think to myself, what an unprofessional thing to say. And also I hope you're not telling other women that. Like, that's literally what I felt. Yeah. That's why I hope she hears this. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think to myself, like, how unbelievable it would be that it, that kind of thing is existing now, especially with women. Imagine if I was insecure about it. Like, actually, yeah. I do want a different look in real life, too. Thank God, thank you so much for saying that. I'm so, like, finally, like, yes. But we were doing a full hair story.

with the flashback. We did a full hair story. My nails were a different color in the flashback. No one is watching my hair. We did a whole wig. It was slightly thinner than the hair. I'm like, I'm wearing the thin wig. Like I have to also like wear the spanks.

Like we're already telling a hair story. We were telling a hair story. Okay? And she goes, and the pupa. No. Yeah, yeah. We want to see that? Yeah.

So we're cool. Like, would previous you be cool with that? She's like, can we get a body double for the flashback and your face on her? I'm like, why do you need to even tell the story? We're doing a hair story. You're right. People know. It's also like the way the show's written.

Like there's different characters with this person. We don't, why would we need that? Yeah, I agree. It's worth saying that much. Yeah. And that's actually also why I, that's how I react to it in real time to. Like I say the same thing. I'm like, why would we ever, why would we do that?

I don't like that. You wouldn't tell like someone skinny could we put you in a fat suit for the flashback scenes. No, but I bet you they would. would laugh about it. Imagine we did that. You know, it would be hilarious. That is actually so funny. They would like joke about it like that.

Yeah. Like this is like not not similar to that but a little bit different where like one time I did a commercial and the original short they picked was like a see through. It was see through mind you like high deaf fucking cameras. It's like a six camera shot. See through long sleeve tight turtle neck top. I'm like interesting choice. Okay.

They picked that one. I'm sitting in it. And then they go up to my stylist and they're like, does she have like a camisole or something? Because I had a brawn, obviously, it was see-through. But like, it's because my big naturals were like distracting. Like they were literally sitting like. But they picked a C-Thilless-Ther.

Yes, I was like, why would you pick a C-Thru top? I have huge tits. Like, that's like, and they were literally like, it's just like her. It's just like it's a little. No shit. I was like, yeah. And I have. huge knockers so we're going to have to keep that top of mind but you're like you like picked the

outfit and then it makes you they want you to feel like embarrassed exactly that's like i'm not going to be embarrassed you pick the clothes if you don't fit me or like there was the time that the hacks cast did a photo shoot and i'm allowed to say i won't say who but there was a stylist that they picked for the photo shoot she literally didn't plan for any of our sizes every single one of us is a completely different size yeah this stylist picked a show shirt off of Hannah threw it at me to put on. And I'm like Carl's wearing like like sharing clothes with like Mark. Like we're all literally different like heights, sizes, like nothing was planned. And then she was like super mean to me because like the clothes didn't fit. And I had on like a t-shirt

dress that was more like a t-shirt like kind of pulling it down. I'm like I'm wearing a t-shirt dress. But like she literally were laughing because it's like me and Hannah aren't the same size. And it's like, oh, it doesn't fit you. Let's throw it on you. It's like, well, no. Like, it's not going to fit it. Right, exactly. And it's so, like, disrespectful. And was mean to me. Yeah. It's, it's dismissive. Yeah. It's like so dismissive and rude and disrespectful. And it's also they make it seem like my body is the issue. Because I have the very first stylist I ever, ever met with and worked with was terrible. Awful, awful, awful. She was like, because I, the first thing I asked was like, do you dress bigger girls? Like, do you? Do you dress bigger girls? Like, do you? you dress above a 12? Like that's, I don't want to hear shit about an eight. Like, if it's a single digit, I don't give a fuck. Do you dress double digit bitches I want to know? And so she was like, yeah, I have such an expansive portfolio, blah, blah, blah.

And she's like, and I can get you all these really nice clothes and like bigger, whatever. The first fitting I did, everything, H&M, H&M jeans, get the fuck out of my thing. You think that shit can fit me? Are you nuts? That fake denim at H&M, you think that she can go over my. I don't even look at the pants in there. There's no, I could hold them in like that. Unless they're a pajama.

Unless they're stretchy. I don't want to hear it. So, but then it's like, then they make you feel like, I'm not going to apologize because you don't have clothes up. No, I know. And I literally told her, like, after I tried on, like, four. And then also, like, she dressed me so matronly. Like, when I saw how there was so much Lane Bryant on that fucking rack, I said,

bitch. That's the other thing that the stylet, like, an amazing stylist, will, like, not only know, like, wear clothes that can fit you. It's like, the stylist needs to be like, you're hot. Right. Like, you're going to look hot in this. Yeah, exactly. Like, feel the same way that we feel about ourselves.

I agree. My stylist is, like, she had a stage where she was trying to put me in a lot of see-through stuff. She wanted everyone to see this. Okay, okay. Let's steer away from the seat. But it's because I also was like, I did like a see-through dress. And then we kind of at a stage together, we're like, yes. undies showing like all the time and then i'm like okay okay let's do like less and then she like is just

such an amazing stylist same i that's how i feel about mine too she kind of ran with me wanting to do like a see-through thing and then was like yes you're so good let's do this see-through and this see-through and then it's like we always like go along um together yeah and like she always just like thinks everything's hot and like is excited to try new things with me and it's and that's beautiful and that's the whole point right the whole point of having a stylist is like someone that's going to meet you where you're at and what you like. Not wanting to cover you up and like something that fits you or barely is a huge one or they do this with big girls a lot where they like everything is like bust only and then it's all flowy

and then tits up to the neck and then shoulders covered. Yeah. So I'm giving mother of the bride and that's fucked up. Why would you dress me like that? And I literally told my current silence I've been through a few. My current one is the best one I've ever had and she's amazing. And she asked me, like, what are some things you're not, like, the biggest fan of, like, in terms of dressing? And I go, I don't like when stylists just always try to put me in busty tops and then cover my shoulders.

Like, I hate them. Yeah. It's so unnecessary. Like, it really is insane. And backwards. Honestly, I feel so reductive, especially now, like, given the time that we're in. But I actually always, like, bring my stylist now. Me too.

After that horrible experience. You know, that's smart. And that's smart. Like, if they're willing to bring her, I'm always like, yeah, ask. to ask her to do it for me. This episode is brought to you by HBO Max. If you thought HBO's Euphoria was intense in high school, Saddle Up.

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Right. And yeah, they were like, they'll be mad if my outfit's too tight and they'll be mad if it's too loose. Right. And that's just being a woman. Like literally. Like I wore one, the dress I wore at the actor. The actor awards.

Too tight people are saying. I'm like, well, it's supposed to be tight. Yeah. The orange outfit, they think it was too loose. Right. Why don't you come do the fitting? Actually, I think I think it. I didn't know that you were my seamstress.

Yeah, also the Kylie Jenner, the orange outfit. Did you ever hear anything back from them? Well, so we had, first of all, Timothy's publicist came up to us and was like, you guys got to see this. He loves it. But all he said was incredible, but it was lowercase. And so I'm like, I don't know if he loved it. And I hope that he did.

And I hope we play a couple one day. me and Timothy a couple and then we did I can play your child that's what I was gonna say right how that would be so sweet that would be so amazing and it's like you're going off to college

but we are we're not like an old age makeup no no not at all we could do like a boss baby thing I was born an old man we had to keep walking past their table like in their outfits but we I couldn't look at that when we had the outfits on Why?

Because I was like, I just, at the off chance that she'd be like, fuck you! Like, I mean, it would have been so good. That would have been so, you should have been like, hey, twin. Yeah, yeah. Hey, thanks for letting me borrow this. It's like fully loose on me. And then it's like, obviously not hurt. Imagine he says, like, you're like, it's a little big.

Yeah. Oh, I got to get it taken in. People are saying. Like, it's so, but they also had like bodyguards at their table. which I understand. I'm not judging because they are like the most famous people

in the world. For real, literally. But meanwhile did see Timothy. We saw him at the actor awards and I was like I acted very like we knew each other. I said hello.

And he's like, hi. And he was nice. And then he was like, let's get a pick. And then we got scared that when we walked away that he thought we wanted

to get a pick and that's why we came up to him. Oh, no. And so I feel sick. Yeah. That was the last. Can you imagine I go up to him? Can we get a pick? Like, that's so embarrassing. Also, like, him assuming that too. But that's the thing I like, did he? Because he's like,

there was a camera person there, right? So it all happens so fast. I'm like running by, I go, hey, and I'm like, okay, we're running by. I'm like, hey, remember? I don't remember what I said. I don't remember what I said. I think I did. You remember. Hey, you. Oh, oh, I know what I said. I go, hey, you know, we're obsessed with you. that's not true this is before the ballet stuff you you this is pre opera ballet this is pre opera also also you actively lying i said you know it you know we're obsessed with you and then and i love him of course i do and paul's a little bit ahead of us and he stands up to say hi he definitely knows we're the freaks that did his outfit there is a camera person there he's like let's get a

pick. Okay. It does seem like we ask. Yeah. Because I say we're obsessed with you. I'm like, can we bother you for a pick? We're obsessed with you. You know what? I'm like one pick won't hurt. That would haunt me too. That would haunt me. That's crazy. If Timothy Chalme, if Timothy Chalme thought that I was like really that big of a fan that I ran up to get a pick, yeah, that would haunt me too. And Paul posted the pick with like a carousal, but I said it'd be funny if you posted only the pick like five times. and then was like, I love, like, met so many people last night, and it's just him and Timothy. I'm actually scared that Timothy, like, if my name ever does get brought up. Right.

Not like as the main, probably like, what about her for the crazy maid? You know what I mean? Like, what about her for the wacky, fat neighbor? I don't know. That he'll be like, no. Like, I know that person, like, no. Like, people do that. People say no about people for like, no, you're right.

And they clear it by like A-list stars. Yeah, like they run it by them first. I made this joke to a loan. I was like, we should do Alonamar. I was like, we should do like a buddy cop thing, right? And then she goes, we would have to pay for that ourselves. And I was like, oh, nobody's coming to see that shit. They're like, yuck.

When they see how we're built. No. Two of us. Wait, I need you to do that. I think so. Like. I think so. but everybody is so small

and I think that's why dude when I It's gonna go out of style Yes being small Yes I think so We love everybody that's every size But yeah but there are trends That is true

And now right now it's like trends To be really skinny or something Right or whatever But that was also like in the 90s That's true So big legs are coming back Big legs are coming back I do like sometimes I do like

When people are like In a C of O's Zemphic, we knew that you would never give it. I get that too. I'm like, yeah. Hey, you're right. I literally got a message that I read to one of my friends on the show where someone said, like, it was like a Jim Shark ad I did.

So I was in like workout clothes and like a little top. And then she's like, you know, everyone, I'm so tired of chasing perfection. I need a real body. Okay, bitch. You know they call me. fattening jeans. Okay. They say that about Addison Ray.

I'm going to die. People say that about, I'm like, I'm going to blow something up. She's extremely fit. They're saying she's a big fatty. I'm looking at Addison, a beautiful queen pop star. Right. And people are saying, people are saying, wow, it's so cool to have a pop star that has a normal body. I'm really sick to my stomach.

I'm like, genuinely sick to me. I'm like, you're insane. I saw that about, I saw that about Zara Larson. And we're not commenting on people's bodies. No, no, they both are to edit this. But I'm saying like, yes, we're not commenting, okay? And I've got a big butt, I'm allowed to say it. I'm not commenting on people's size.

I'm saying that when you say, yes, I'm so glad someone's normal around here to someone who is probably like working out like in doing dance class every hour. One also like genuinely small. So like what the fuck are you talking to? And it's okay if we say that because I'm not small. That's what I mean. I'm not comedy on someone like off the street. You're medium.

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That's what I'm trying to say I'm not commenting on her by I'm just saying like It's the idea behind like Oh this is someone who's thicker Yeah what the we need to get clear real fucking fast On what the definition of thick is I think that's what I mean I'm like that is really crazy to me Well I even told one of my friends once I was on her show

I was like when men call me fat and ugly Right like which is the only thing they'll ever say to me I'm like ugly lie outright lie fat depends on who you ask. Because to some people, I'm big fat fatty. To some people, I'm like, not fat. Not skinny, just not fat. To my family, they're going, you're losing weight.

To my family, my family's like, you're annoying. That's more important. That's more important to discuss than the body. But I'm also like a huge proponent of body neutrality. I've said this for years where it's like, I don't want to think, I love how I look, but I don't want to derive value or worth from my body. I don't want to feel anything towards it negative or positive. what I want to feel is grateful.

Like that's how I want to feel towards my body. Grateful at any size, whatever it does as long as it keeps me alive and healthy, that's what I care about. And that's what I'm working towards. And it makes it fucking impossible when you have people online calling Addison Rayafati. That's crazy.

That's crazy. You're crazy and insane and you need to go outside. There is a divergence in the women that follow me because there are a lot of women who love me, which is a great thing. But there is a specific subset of women who, like, they think that that kind of talking is like feminism and they think that's like support

when like you need to decolonize the mind in order to like actually support and feminism like for real. And so they think when they see us like they think look how brave she is. She doesn't give a buck. Yeah. And really that's true. Go on with your big ass.

Yeah. Literally. Literally. Or I've also obviously like no one's worse than men. Like men are insane and horrible. and I don't even think about them. But there are really mean women comments to me. I agree about like looks and stuff.

Or like if I do a crazy late night appearance, there's a lot of women that are like attacking. And I'll go on her page and I'm like, what is the deal? Her is like looking like she looks like she has a nice family. Yeah. So you're like what is the matter with you? It really is, I think women like that especially because I get that too.

Like really, really mean comments about my looks from women specifically. I've gotten that many times too. Obviously, like you said, far in a way, it's always men the most. But when it's women, I've always said, like, that's the part that really upsets me. Because I think to myself, like, I'm fighting for you, bitch. Like, what the fuck? Like, oh, you're going to turn on me?

And I think now, too, especially, it's because you and I are for real about confidence. Like, there are a lot of women who are much smaller than us and look much different than we do that are violently insecure, no matter how. far they go because this business is just that awful, you and I are for real about the shit, like for real confident. And I think they can tell, especially when we're being ourselves and the way you are yourself, because I have to give you your flowers for a second. Like, I truly- And I'll be taking them and give them right back to you. I really do think that you are one of the most talented actors today. I really genuinely believe that because you are not afraid. Like, you are so brave, like in the way that you act.

That actually is really hitting me hard right now and I actually almost fell out of my I'm serious. That means a lot coming from you. It's very like, I sing your praises everywhere I go, but I have said this to many people. I'm like, you are changing the game. Like the way they, even the way you walk carpets, you are changing the game. Like you're putting fun back into the worst part of the job, which is shit like that. Like I talked to someone recently who's an actress and she was like, it sucks because like acting is my passion and my first love and that's 10% of the job.

And the other 90 is like what I describe as like, running for mayor. So you're just constantly doing press tours. You're going and getting dressed up and being touted around and answering the same questions over and over again. But you go to carpets and you have like purpose and drive and you're being funny and silly and like you're injecting joy like back into these really stiff, archaic mediums. And I really want to tell you that because what you do on carpets, I can see it's like genuinely you are an actress. Like that is what you are. And what you do on those carpets is so fun and it's so like magnetic and it's incredible and I have to tell you that because I really think you're making it easier for people to walk these carpets like you're making it easier for

people to like digest the content to like feel like acting is fun and Hollywood is fun and like people don't care so much about the like I don't know buttoned up nature of it I guess you're making it more accessible and it's a beautiful thing I actually am getting emotional because I that is literally what you're doing I'm serious because you are when you've interviewed me that you are like my safe place and I felt like not alone when I was with you. I'm so glad. And I feel like there those events like I'm I'm truly like can be so grateful to be there with our like my dream was to be an actor. So and I still feel kind of like funny saying that because I like to saying like oh I'm an actor. Yeah.

But I feel like there are. I'm not saying anything about a specific award show but they're at these Hollywood events they do feel like they're. is an actual evil because there's a lot of evil in our industry. It's true. But there's also a lot of angels like evil. And so I feel as a gay god girl that like I can bring like some light and like joy. Absolutely. Like to what we have to go to or like for award shows it is fun to go to when it feels like I could feel lucky and also make fun of like being an actor. The seriousness of it.

Yeah. Like the absurdity of it. Because it is a very absurd job like just generally. Yeah, and it could feel also like you are like at the capital in the hungry games. And that you like it's like is the answer not to go to anything that you're invited to of like celebrating like your show or is it like to go and try to like be positive and be silly and like make people happy. And also use your platform to say what's important and what's going on. So I try to like do all of that there and I feel like that's what you do. And so you make me so happy.

Happy to see you're so sweet. There are evil people around us. No, that is true. And that's why even like the actor words is a perfect example. Like you and Paul Downs when you guys did your presentation and you were joking about Hamnet and everything. Like I literally, first of all, like I told you, laugh my ass off, obviously. But also like you are brave. Like you are brave and courageous.

And it takes a lot of courage to not just like be yourself in a way that's like authentic to you. Like your humor is so authentic to who you are. And so that's what you depict when you're doing like bits like that. But you're also like making it just like, I don't know, tolerable. Like those energies can be so, they can be so intolerable and boring, right? And stuffy and also very like when I say archaic, I mean too, like the frameworks are so like stacked against so many different marginalized people. And you come in and you just upset the entire thing and turn it on its head.

And I think it's genius. It's so sweet. I think you're a genius. And I think you're amazing. And then people need to give you way more credit because I think sometimes people think the silliness of the bits that you do sometimes at carpets is like, oh, this girl just like does whatever. But you're very specific about how you do it and the way you do it. And I can tell because I'm smart.

You get me and I get. And yeah, and I do. It's true. Your humor is smart. It's very, very high level. It's not. I saw someone already comment when I was saying like, I said like for people that don't get my stuff, I feel like you do have to be really smart to be able to joke like this.

And I wasn't meaning it in a mean way because, like, I didn't feel very smart in school at all. So, like, I'm allowed to say that I feel smart now. Right. And people are like, oh, she's like this pretentious person saying that we just don't get it. And she's so smart. And I'm like, no, I'm just saying I'm smart in a certain way because you guys are smart in different ways. So like a mathematician, if they don't get me, then they're smart in other ways. Well, and you're also talking about a very specific kind of person who's critiquing the

way that you act and the way that you perform your bits. Right. I'm not just saying like if you don't get it. I'm saying if you're being mean to me. I'm saying then then you don't get it. But I'm smarter than you think. Yeah, it's true. And that's why I'm giving you all the credit in the world for that, for especially for your bits.

Dude, like I, I'm not kidding. Every time I'm like, this bitch is a genius. Like every time I see doing stuff. But you're so smart and so naturally funny that you like we get each other's sense of humor. I agree. And I don't, I really appreciate you saying that. And I don't feel like, like, brave or anything. But I feel like it, try, I'm trying to, like, take some of the power away of, like,

celebrity because if you can make fun of it and you're kind of like an actor or whatever. Right. And it's like, take some of the power, like, doing a joke about, like, this huge movie that won, like, all of the awards. That was, like, the most beautiful movie I've ever seen. It, like, makes it, like, feel like they're just. we're all people. When you continue to enforce these weird like barriers of entry, it closes doors for other people. And that's genuinely why I think you're a genius and also why I hate that rhetoric of like, influencer shouldn't be here. Because for someone like myself, which I've said before,

like, and a lot of other people, the internet was my way in. Like that I never would have been looked at because I don't look like Addison Ray. So and I don't talk like her and I don't sound like her. So the, the constraints with which people are held. to these standards that we're fighting against, like, this prejudice. And we were just talking about fat phobia for so long, like, and how it's still being weaponized against us, even now as people with platforms and you as a celebrity and a successful actor, like, it's still happening even now. But that happened because of being online.

Right. Like, they saw me online making videos, like, and I was performing for, like, 10 years doing stand-up. Right, exactly, which nobody knows, like, nobody even begins to think about with you. Like, that's why I'm saying, like, it's the same thing. with me too in the sense of how sometimes people digest my content. Like they're very like, oh, I just like when she's mean to men. And it's like it's my jokes and the jokes I tell are a lot more layered than just like,

this is my favorite thing that when women are like, oh, this is how you be mean to men. They'll be like, I bet it's small, isn't it? Like that's like the meanest thing they can think to say. And I'm like, obviously my jokes are a lot more layered than that and there's a lot more like nuance to it. Like if your jokes were like just like it's small like anybody. could do that. That's like my point. But you're literally so smart and so

you, I feel like funny people are just really, really smart. I agree and that's why I've, I've known that about you. I've known you were smart because you're so funny. My sister and I, your humor is so aligned with me and my sister. It's not even funny. Like, I talked to, my sister and I said this for months.

This was like a bit when I interviewed you at Pandora. There was a part where you were... I'm sorry, I love Pandora. I love Pandora too. I really do. I love them. They're amazing. bracelets, yeah. I actually am wearing, they actually sent me this charm bracelet. I love me,

I do. And like, when I was talking to you there, you were like, I used to be a gold girl, but, and then you look at the camera and you go, get this one, now I'm silver.

I laughed about that the whole way home. We said, now I'm silver for fucking months after that. I still do it now. And that's what we laugh. And I was like, after you said it, I was like, I have to tell my sister

that joke. She didn't laugh. It's interesting because like, that is true about me. You know what I mean? But like, as I was saying, saying it. I'm like, I am still making fun of

like the actor who's like saying something really like really like interesting about themselves but I'm also like that also is true. Also when you that's how I thought of it. When you wore that 32 inch wig and you were saying you were like, I'm on my big period careful. People were

really like how can you see that and not know I'm doing a joke? Like people were like who the hell's this? I'm like, do you think that's my real hair? I'm wearing my own shirt. Like I'm on my shirt.

Like, I'm on my shirt. Like, that's the fun I always want. There are people that are like, what's going on? And then the people that get it feel like they're in on the joke. Right. And like, I'm the only one being made fun of by myself. I agree. It's a very, it reminds me a lot of Tim Robinson. Yeah, I love him.

Because his humor, too, is very, like, specific. Like, it's a very specific kind of humor. And that's how I feel about yours, too. It's so layered and it's so. so funny, bitch. You have me giggling, bitch. That's literally, that's why I said at the actor words, you and Zach Fox

were my favorite people. And I literally kept saying when I asked you the question, like, what would you change your actor name to? And you said, Miss Queen. Now, I don't remember that, but it does sound like the thing I said. Miss Queen. It's so crazy. Imagine that.

Oh, my God. Well, the funny thing, and this isn't against any male comedians, because I love Nathan Fielder. I love Tim Robinson. Like, I am their biggest fan. Yeah. But people do let, like, men be more, like, crazy and silly. Awkward, crazy humor.

No, you're right. You're so right. And they're like, he's a genius. Like, he went in. He's a pilot now. I'm like, if I went and I became a pilot, like, people would have me arrested. Like, and I just, people don't let women be funny. Be crazy, weird, funny.

Or, like, silly. It's like, if I'm doing that on late night, it's like, she's crazy. Lock her up, who the hell is this? But then if a male comedian did that, that was like maybe like the same amount of known. Yeah. Everybody would get it.

Yeah, and everyone would be like, this guy's hilarious. He's a genius. He's so hot. I know. So sexy. Oh, I want the awkward guy. Because I think also people assume men

are really smart. Yeah. So it's like if they're doing something awkward, it's obviously on purpose. It's obviously planned. Right. It's so Andy Kaufman. You're so right because I made a joke.

And I talked about this with Caleb often offline, but like I made a joke with Brittany when she came on my show as like Glinda. And she asked me my opinion on ghouls. And I said like just like generally ghouls. And she said, yeah. And then I said, well, if they came here legally, I wouldn't care.

Like, and then we, that was the joke. And we like laugh. And we were like riffing about that, like pretending they're like, you know, like illegal. Like illegally entering the US, whatever. And so we were joke. And the amount of comments I got that were like,

did you get this joke from Caleb? Oh, saying that you, does he have a ghoul joke? If he does, I haven't heard it. Does he have a goal joke? Probably, I might have worked it off. Oh, they just really like sounds like something Caleb would say. No, they literally thought I took that joke from Caleb. I don't know if it was specifically about ghouls.

I don't know if they just mean like doing a parallel. Oh, like a, oh, only if they're illegal. Yeah, like the wittiness of it was. But also they know that you're friends. Right. And I think that's why they think I just like take his funny. like in snowy people just yeah yeah they just constantly think that when i'm funny like generally and it's not about men then they're like oh well then all three of you're the funniest people like so

so if you're also different and you also like are so funny together well i would never assume that you or caleb took from each other yeah and that would be insane people like worship men though right exactly and that's my point and i and i made a video about it too because i was like if you guys haven't found out i'm funny by now like then fucking keep it to yourself i don't want to hear it i don't I really don't. Crediting my jokes that I say off the dome to someone who's not even here is fucking insane. It also would be so much more work to copy a really close friend who you're on the same podcast all the time together. Like each other's podcast.

That would be really hard. Hopping his joke into a riff with another friend that he knows. Yeah, that's why I'm saying. Like, it's a very dumbass bitch thing to ask me because they just can't believe that I can come up with a joke that quickly. in that funny. Also, if he said something similar, maybe you guys joke because you're friends and maybe he took it from you. You know what I mean?

Well, that's never possible. I don't think you guys would ever take anything from each other. I agree. But it's like in the very rare case that you accident, like. It's just so stupid and it's accrediting men again, like giving them way more credit. Like you were saying, you're right though. Like if men, if there was a male comedian and honestly there probably will be one that tries to rip off what you do on carpets, there probably will be.

I've seen men that are like wait to hear what I've thought of. And it's like, oh, I thought of that a couple months ago. You know? Like, I can't even think of an example, but I'm like, I know, like, there are... They're saying that about you? Yeah. I'm like, what you do, they're like, yeah, yeah. Well, if I had the time, I would have also done this.

Yeah. Yeah, if given the opportunity, I also had this idea. Yes, I'm sure there will be a guy on the red carpet trying to be doing a big character actor. Oh, my God, I know. I heard the other... Fake cigarettes or... I don't know.

Oh, I guarantee someone's going to try to rip off your bit and then copy you. And then if that does happen, they're going to be like, oh, man, he just doesn't care. Look at this guy. He just doesn't care. Yes. Oh, yeah, totally. And you're like, oh, okay. Well, I'm glad you guys receive it when he does it.

But when you do it, you're just crazy. You need to be carted off to the asylum. But I will say that the Kylie Timmy outfits were Paul's idea. But I did tell us that we should do it soon. Yeah, that's true. And that was very smart. But he is not just like, he's not a regular guy. Yeah.

I like to say he's like, there's certain men that are goddesses, like your man. You know what I mean? That I'm like, he would never take credit. He always gives me credit and I always give him credit. That's really sweet. As a comedy partner. I love that. And he's not like typical like guy.

Like he wouldn't just steal like be like take credit for something. Yeah. Men would, like, true collaborating. Well, I do want to ask you more about Hax and I'm working with Paul. I would love to know more about it. Angel. Yeah, just like how it's been, how it's going. Like, how do you feel?

Like, do you and, did you guys have, like, instant chemistry or did you guys build to it? How did it go? Well, I loved him on Broad City. Yeah. And what happened was we met at a stand-up show. And I don't think that we didn't have the audition yet for Hax. I didn't know about it. But he does say that when he saw me at the show, then he was like, okay, this,

makes sense for Kayla. Oh, love. But then I still had to audition. Okay. And so I really wanted it. Yeah. But Pat Regan showed me a, um, a screenshot where it did say my name in the script. Like think Meg Stalter. And I never, I was never on TV before. That's so cool, though. So it was nice to have my name in a script. Oh my God. That's incredible. But they could have it to someone else. People are auditioning that I know. That's crazy. Yeah. They're using you as reference. Yes. Doing me. Do you have any tips for me for auditioning? I'm venturing. into acting. And, well, I was going to say that my dream is to do something with you for real.

I would love Meg, I'll die. I'm serious. I'll die. You are literally a star. And I don't care if there's a comment. Oh, she's complimenting her a lot. I don't care. If you were here, you'd be complimenting her too.

Right. Like, truly. That's what I feel about you. My thing is, like, I think that writing for myself, even if I hadn't actually, like, right now, I technically have not gotten anything, like, on screen that I've written, right? Like, I think like riding for myself, even if it's... This episode is brought to you by Billy. So, y'all know that first everything shower you take during the summer after swimming all day,

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Yeah. I think helps me. Okay. Because like I just, here's the thing is I can't imagine how hard it would be to be an actor that wasn't a comedian. Right. But you're a comedian too. You know what I mean? Like, right?

So it's like, if I was an actor and I audition. and I was never able to tell myself yes. Yeah. It would be really hard. But you already tell yourself yes with all of the things you've created that you're going to have such an amazing acting career. Thank you. Because I don't know how many parts people will write for me.

I'm writing like, I've been writing six things every day forever. Casting you? Yeah, me too. You know what I mean? Yeah, totally. But I guess we do improvise someone hacks, but I mean the script. is truly amazing. Yeah.

So I feel like I've learned a lot from them, but, like, technically, who knows if anybody ever would offer me another role again? I have to write my own stuff. No, you're right. And it's crazy you say that, too, because that's what some of my other actor friends have said is, like, sometimes, especially when you're marginalized in any capacity, sometimes you've got to do it yourself, like, and then prove it, and then that's where you go in from there.

And I was like, you know what? You're probably right, because I've done a lot of, like, reads for small things, haven't booked one didn't even book Moana if you can believe it there's only about two of us and they cast two of them so it's a bummer well the other thing is like I feel like

you know so many people people are going to write for you I hope so because you are so charismatic you know what I mean so I think it's like I'm going to write for myself and I'm going to like just like put out my own stuff online because that's another thing that I'll say that I do

I won't say the show but I did hear there was a part on a show that I wanted. Yeah. And so I started posting videos as, and I couldn't get an audition for the show. Yeah. Because it was like really small. Yeah.

So I heard basically that there was a publicist character. So every day I was posting videos as a publicist. I didn't get the audition. But then like maybe that helped someone else see me. No, yeah. You're actually, you're a genius. You're a marketing genius especially.

So I'm like, I'm not tied to any person's thing, but I am like going to like put myself out because I don't know what people are saying in meetings about me. You're so right. You're actually so right. I'm just going to post this because that's basically an audition. That's too.

Like if I could maybe change their mind, like I'll just be trying to do like a really funny like publicist character if I want to be on the show. If I'm not right, that's okay. But at least like I put an auditioned on my own page. Hell yeah. It's like Jojo Siwa did you ever see when she put that self tape? Yeah, that's kind of I kind of jojo see what I did. But I'm kind of like it also.

It could also shoot me in the foot. What if someone sees it? they're like too funny. I need more serious. But you know, at least I just... You know what's funny? When I met with my...

I met... I have an acting coach and when I met with him once, I was like, do you think my height in slates? Do you think I should start lying? And then he was like, well, I'll tall of you.

And I was like, well, I'm six feet tall. And I feel like that's why I'm not getting the roles. Me, not even considering talent. I'm like, it's probably my height. So how do you feel... I told them, what if I'm five foot two? Yes, I literally tell them, what if I said five, seven?

And he's like, that's like way too sure. Like you should get a little closer. And I was like, okay. I love your height. I'd be, if I was a casting person, I'd be casting you and everything, by the way. Thank you. They're going to make me the Rock's body double before they make me a lead. But that's the thing is casting people literally, like, it might not even be about talent or look.

They can just be like, this person seems like what I had in my head for this. I'm not even kidding. That's what all my friends are told. Sabrina Breyer. She told me. That you have to write your own. Yeah. She said she worked on a show and she said, I worked with a showrunner that like we would pull up tapes.

And before they even started, he'd be like, no, because that's just not who he was picturing. Which honestly makes me feel better. I feel like it gives me way more freedom because then I'm like, well, then it's really just chance. It's really just like, if you're feeling it, I can do it. Because sometimes I watch movies and I'm like, I could fucking do that. I watched Crime 101 and I saw Chris Hemsworth and I thought, I could do it. that. I already know that you're an amazing actress because you are literally mesmerizing. Thank you. Do you think that somebody who, like look at the platform you built. There's a reason people want to watch you and hear

what you have to say and people will write for you. And that's the other thing is I know that there'll be other rules for me because I know. Absolutely. I know that we know who we are. So people know in the cast, who we are and what we can do. Totally. Even before auditioning. So there will be. But I will say it's very empowering to tell yourself yes about stuff and write for yourself. No. You're You're so right for you. And I am writing fiction books right now. It's so cool. Thank you.

I would love to send you the sample after. But I sold them. I sold two of them and I'm like talking about film rights and TV show rights, whatever. Yeah. Before I've even written them. But like I've been telling my team like this is my Lynn Manuel Miranda plan. Yes. I'm going to write it.

And then I'm going to sell it to someone. And then I say caveat. Yeah. I'm literally. I'm the lead and no I can't sing. So do with that what you like. That's the other thing. Guess what?

I'm, I'll say. still singing something even if I can't sing. And that's the thing. Yeah, I'm in a real Who Want Me phase with acting. Well, literally, people are going to be begging and you're going to have your, you're going to have your book

be a movie and be in it as a star and everyone's going to be throwing stuff at you. I'm serious. In a bad way or in a good way? No, throwing things. Please be this role. Please be this role. Oh, you thought of meant like throwing tomatoes? No, throwing roses. Oh, and throwing scripts at you. At opera. I'm serious.

Like they do with an opera. Of course, in the ballet. What do you think about what he said? Do you think he got too comfortable? Yeah, I honestly, I feel like I understood the spirit of what he was trying to say. I just felt like he did it in a bad way and also unnecessarily dragging other art forms into a conversation about acting when acting to be in a live by streaming. All of it just feels like non-starter, like, but also largely, by and large, um, I, I don't know. don't think he needs anyone to defend him because he's still going to be Timothy Chalmay

at the end of the day. I really don't think anyone needs to defend him. I think he's okay. I think this is the first time, literally the history of time ever that people have been mad at him. Is there a possibility he was doing a bit? No. Because some of the Marty Supreme stuff, like he was kind of kidding, right? If I were him, that's what I would have said. I know. I would be out there. I would be literally online going, I was kidding. I was a bit. I love ballet. I would have hit up a different British rapper and I would have gotten to work. Yes, for real. Yes. Yes. For real. and then I would have forgot.

Oh my gosh, he literally needs to do that. I would have gone, met up with Drewski, and I would have made it disappear. That's what I would have done. I heard his family was ballerinas. Yeah, his sister and his mom, I think. So aren't they mad at him? Well, I think that's why his sister went to the Oscars.

To show, hey, this ballerina's not mad. But, like, I don't think. Honestly, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like when there's cheating rumors, so then, like, they go out to dinner, him and his wife, and they're holding hands. They're fingering each other at the dinner's not.

We love each other. Yeah, we love each other. Look, two in the pink, one in the stink. She should have dressed up in her balla, ballerina, ballerina costume. Her costumes. I was having a stroke. Ballerina in her ballerina boat. Ballerina bow.

Well, she's an actress, too. Oh, period. Honestly. Right? Good for them. Wait, right? I'm believing you. Isn't she in, is.

Are you starting rumors? She's in sex lives. Sex lives. Oh, T. Okay. Whole family's actors, period. Okay. We're going to pivot to fun facts.

Okay. Are you ready? Yes. Okay, fun facts. This first one says you used to do Shakespeare improv in Ohio but got in trouble because you kept poisoning your teammates. Well, yeah, I'd say the guy that ran the theater said you need to keep the jokes off the stage or you can't be in the show anymore.

And I was going jokes. I mean, that's what happens in Shakespeare plays. I didn't really have the accent down. So you don't want to be historically accurate. Yeah, I'm like, I poison them because that's what Shakespeare would have done. He's really scary. He's really scary. It feels like Michael Scott when he's an improv and he keeps bringing a gun.

That's the thing. Like, I definitely wasn't good, but I definitely thought I was really good. And I was like, I would literally be like, everyone's going to love me today. Like, I can't wait to be so funny. He was so scary. But he also, like, he put, there's these twins, really nice twin girls in our class. Yeah. He excelled them to being in a show.

really, really fast because I think he had a crush on him. And that made me feel scared. And they're scared to him out. Yeah. I would be scared too. And I love those girls. And he's creepy. And he's creepy and weird and clearly has no sense of humor or historical knowledge

about Shakespeare. That is what happens in Shakespeare plays. Ever read Romeo and Juliet? I mean, who cares? Like, by the way, it's improv. They can come back to life if they wanted. Like, that's... That's insane to me to be mad at that.

And I said, hey, can I talk to you to the side for a second? Yeah. He was sending me really scary Facebook messages about it. When I was doing short form and long form improv at the same time, he said that you can't be learning both the same time. That's like doing ballet and like hip hop dance. What? And I was like, okay.

And you're like, I think that those are two very different things and you're not the boss of me. He just didn't want me to take the improv class from this amazing woman. that he was like was his nemesis. So it's like, I'm like, you guys can work out whatever, but like I'm doing both classes. Yeah, they need to settle it on the remix, those two. You know what like short form improv? Like those games.

Like zip zabs up? It'll be like, it'll be like the alphabet game. Oh no, no, wait. Okay, it's like, you know those TikToks that are going viral where they're like, sex with me is like those kinds of games? Okay, I see what you're saying. You know those horrible, like, sex. with me is like is like drinking coffee it's hot until it's not you know okay have you seen those

videos i think so short forms like that and long forms like you're basically pretending to be in a play for like an hour you're making up everything and like whatever we're losers like shut up we're doing improv we're literally theater kids like yes i owe my whole career to it but i mean it's it's like embarrassing like don't tell me i can't do improv every day yeah and you know what's funny is I had to explain, I made a zip, zap, sop, zap, so I was an athlete going up. That's like a warm up. Yes. Yeah.

So I was explained, I made a joke to him about zip, zap, zap. And then he was like, you've made that joke around me multiple times. What is that? And I was like, it's like a warm up thing for improv. And then he goes, okay. And I go, you know, like, and I was like literally saying it like he knew. And he goes, I don't know what any of those words mean. I thought you were just saying stuff.

Like he literally thought I made that up. He thought it was a catchphrase of yours. Got a blast. Zipsaps off. Sipsaps off. Wait, that, me playing, like, literally in my 20 Zip Zapsop and being like, this is amazing. Like, I'm getting on SNL. Like, this feels amazing.

Yeah, it's like euphoric. It's euphoric. It really is like you hit a flow state when you're playing Zip Zip Zop. You really feel like you're that girl when you're playing Zips, Zaps, Zop. And I do want to say to my brother, my younger brother, he's going to be 22 years old. And we talk about Donnie on this show. He is a gym. I think you would enjoy him, honestly, if he met him.

And he is currently starring in high school musical The Play. And he got cast as Troy Bolton. Oh, my God, a huge role. Yeah, he got a lead. Wait, you said also what? Zeke. He also, he's playing two roles. In the same production?

He has to change a costume. In the same night or are they switched off? In the same night. So, yeah, he's playing multiple roles. Amanda's dying because she hasn't heard this story. That's my dream in high school to get. I couldn't even get one role. He's so lucky.

And I will say this. It's a local theater production. We're so excited to watch him. He's so excited about it. He's having a blast. But he literally texts my man. My brother is 22 years old. 21 years old.

My man is 31. He texts my man and he goes, hey, Billy. He's like, just out of curiosity, would you be interested in auditioning for the play? They need more boys. Oh, my gosh. And then my man goes,

you know what I'm gonna let you take that but thank you I appreciate the offer and he was like just thought I'd ask he never know I love him I know that I would love him and he like wait your guy should do it imagine my old ass man on stage with those children wait wait it's not height wait no they're like young college students okay but they're playing high schoolers yeah they're playing high schoolers so imagine my man you give you miss Darbis yeah the music teacher but also like it's kind of like he could play play Like if there's 20-year-olds playing high schoolers, he could play a high schooler. I don't think so. Wait, that, okay. It would be like Channing Tatum in 21 Jump Street. He is so funny in that. He is. He's so funny.

I loved when Jonah Hill was that way. Yeah, it was not evil. Well, my brother, like, was telling my sister and my mom yesterday about how rehearsals have been going, and he's like, they're kicking my ass. And then he was telling my, he was like, yeah, because there's two casts, right? and he plays Troy in one and Zeke and the other, right? I'm still a little confused. So in the same...

Me too. Wait, the cast thing you just said to confuse me because I'm in the same production, like, okay, there's a show tonight. I think it's like a two show thing. He's playing both people or he switches the shows? I think it's like the first show is like he's Troy and then at the second show he's Zeke. To switch it up.

Yeah, so not within the same show, but I think it's like... Why are they doing that? I really couldn't tell you. Maybe because they have an oversupply of women and not enough men, so maybe that's why. But it's different shows, so they'll have enough people in the one show. Oh, so maybe the next show, this guy can't do it. A woman has to take on this role. He steps into the Troy.

Right, like, yeah, he's really got to shed the skin and put on the other costume. But he's been giving, like, he was telling my mom and sister, my brother has never acted. He's taken, like, one class. So he literally was telling. My sister kept going, yeah, like, I don't know, just like the other Troy and Gabriela, like in the other, when he's not playing Troy, he's like, there's just no intimacy. And my sister goes, the word is chemistry, you have to stop saying. Intimacy's like, they're not hooking up. He's like, it's weird.

It's giving virgin. I literally wish that I knew when the auditions were. Like, it sounds so fun to be, like, in a play. I know, I agree. And then my sister goes, are you giving other people? advice and then he goes well just some like tips yeah yeah yeah yeah my sister's like you've never acted so maybe we like focus my mom goes maybe we focus on having fun and like you but guys can do that guys can do a new thing and give advice that's really and i literally said i'm like and because he's a man

you got to stomp that out no it's all done in genuine earnest like my brother is the most genuine earnest person like clearly he asked my 30 years old man to be in the high school musical production. It's so sweet. He's like the sweetest person ever. So that's why he's like, well, just some tips. And my sister's just like, don't, don't hand those out. It's okay. Just focused on being the best Troy. And that's a huge role, by the way.

Yeah. And he texts me and said, hey, sis, do you have any basketballs at your house that I can take to use for rehearsals? And I was like, yeah, sure. So he came to my house and picked up a basketball. And then, like, my dad was like helping him pump it up. So it was like nice and full. and then the way my brother was dribbling and he's like, well, don't dribble it like that.

Oh, he's giving advice to your dad. Yeah. He's like, why am I surrounded by people that don't know how to act? And don't know how to play basketball. God, damn. Like, he's getting so confident at rehearsal. Wait, do you know that when I was his age? Yeah.

I made it into a production of high school musical at a dinner theater. Did you really? I auditioned and I was really nervous. But I didn't do it because they only like cast me as like back. background. Oh, ensemble. Yeah, ensemble adult or whatever. And then I went on... Adult in the crowd at the basketball game.

Literally in high school I'd get like adult choir. I'm like, well, none of us are adults. Like, what the hell do you mean by that? Like, do I look like an adult? Yeah, like Renee told me she was always in drag. Like they always made her an old person or a man. Oh, old. Yeah.

I'm like, it is so psycho like drama teachers, like putting stuff on you. Yeah. Like when you're doing the, like when you're auditioning, like, this girl getting like the lead because like, yes, she's a good singer, but I know you're giving me the old woman because of something else. Like I'm not appealing to you in a certain way. To the drama teacher. You know what I mean? Like, it's creepy. It's creepy. It is creepy and weird. But you're a star, so you had the last laugh, obviously. But she did pass away. And it felt bad. So rest in peace, Miss Montag. She was really screaming at us a lot. But I do, of course, wish for the best for her. And that, and that she had to go. life, I know. Kisses to this guy. And I shouldn't have announced that she passed away. But it was really sad. And she did have a boyfriend named Chef John.

And we don't know why he was allowed to hang out at the school with us. And we don't know if he was a chef. I think she would think it was fun that I gave a little tribute. What if his first name was chef? I think it was probably John. But I am wondering, like, you bring up a point. Like, if his name wasn't chef and he wasn't a chef, why are we calling him Chef John? Maybe it's because you're dumb kids

And like it's like when you try to make a nickname She made us to say maybe he's trying to make a nickname happen And it wasn't taking And she's like well these stupid kids will call you that Oh yes yes yes So maybe that's what it was And it kind of makes it like less weird That he's at the school like if he has like a fun like he

Oh he has a job somewhere Yeah because well we all call him chef John That'd be like if I went and I'm like People call me Rocket You guys can just call me Rocket I know like hey Miss Rocket Like, it's cool, you're here at the school. Like, right.

You did have a good point about it being John and I don't want anyone in the comments being like, oh, Meg, shut her down when she said that maybe his name chef. I was being genuine there trying to figure it out with you. And I was like, maybe it. Thank you. You know what? Like, maybe that was a nickname of his. That's not funny.

That he gave himself, I bet. Because he's, like, good at making pizza or something. And so people started calling him, like, chef. Chef John. And then it just carried it on his stuff. Okay, I have more fun facts. Oh, yes, yes. It says, in 2018, you tweeted at Gucci, Maine.

I'm a big fan and I'm 5-7 and living in the Chicago land area. Can you please tell me how your day was, for the love of God? Okay, that's really weird. I don't even know who that is. I do not remember that. But I do remember when I first got a Twitter. Yeah. Was it a tweet?

Yeah, it was a tweet. Yes, it was a tweet, yes. I would tweet at just people that were famous so that more people would follow me. And I'm past that phase You are a marketing genius Like I said At the time I was just trying to get my comedy To be taken out

I never I never wanted I never cared about like Being famous but I always cared about making a joke About being famous Yeah so you're like I need to be in the right room Yeah yeah To make this joke about being famous

But of course You're so much smarter than everyone You're 10 steps ahead That's kind of scary though That was like threatening Please for the love of God And tell me how your day was Please for the love of God

What did he say? I'm assuming nothing. I'm assuming nothing. There was no response. Was there how many like five I'm guessing? I didn't even say. I think it did work sometimes though. Like getting people to, it made me tweet a lot.

Yeah, I mean, that's how to do it. I love Twitter. Before it turned evil, that was like one of my favorite places. It says you did a dance to in sync song space cowboy for your elementary school talent show. Yes. I also did an elementary school talent show. And I danced to Thriller by Michael Jackson. That like the original dance?

Well, see, yes. But the thing was, I did not want to watch the music video. I only wanted to watch Jennifer Garner and Mark Ruffalo do it in 13 going on 30. So my sister and I watched that scene and we just kept rewinding it and only learned the parts that she does that you can see. Oh, I love that. So every other part of the song, we were just kind of standing there. But those parts that she did, we were killing. I like that.

I don't need to see someone dancing the whole time. I like to see someone sitting there. Mind you, my sister's sick to her stomach with fear because she's so nervous to do that in front of people. No one's watching. It was at like an end of the year carnival, the talent show. And all she wanted to do was the cake walk because she's weird like that. And the cake walks when you win a cake while you're walking? Yes.

It's like musical chairs. It's like musical chairs. So you move. And then when the music stops, if you land on a certain spot, you get the cake. You get to pick a cake. And that was her favorite thing to do at the end of the year carnival because she's weird. My family always loved winning everything at stuff like that. My mom too.

We'd have like five cakes. Yeah, yeah. No, my sister would like nervously stand there and stare at my mom the whole time because she wanted to participate but was afraid. So then my mom would walk around the circle with her just so she didn't feel alone. This podcast is brought to you by Carvana. Selling your car should feel like one less thing on your list. Not one more. With Carvana, it is.

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But there is a, there is a desire to be on scene. Yeah, spiritual draw to the cakewalk. Yeah, she felt very drawn to the cakewalk. But were you ever nervous to be on like in front of people? Never. That's why it was my idea to do the thriller thing. I love it. I do love it.

I love. I cried my eyes out the day before the audition for the talent show because I didn't have anything. So then my mom took me in my friend's house to make up a day. I was like, I didn't have any idea of what my talents were. I knew I wanted to be on stage. Like, what's wrong with me? Like, I really wanted to. I needed, I needed to.

You needed to. You needed to put something out there. Why? I'm assuming the undying need for attention. But that's the other thing is like mine is weird because like... I wanted to entertain. Like, that's what I really wanted to do. That's what I'm saying, I don't want just like attention like, oh, like look at her.

She's in this crazy outfit. it's more like the I have a need or want to be on stage and someone to be getting enjoyment and feel something I agree to walk away being like there was something about you your performance that made me feel something you are magnetic what is that I don't know I don't know it in my family like for some reason at someone family reunions they love doing talent shows I don't really know why we do those two yeah yeah so for one one year me and my sister did the ho-down throwdown from the Hannah Montana movie so good because I told her I was like well we have to do something we didn't but I was like we have to do something we didn't but I was like we have to do something.

We have to get up that this audience needs a performer. Yeah. And so we went out there. And it's my someone, like, ass family. Like, none of them give a fuck about hands. I don't have them know anything about it. Like, half of them don't speak English. So it's very, like, wrong room.

But I told her we did the entire three-minute song, like the entire thing. And, like, not one clap during. And then at the end, everyone was like, oh, nice. There's something. I know that feeling. And I know it's like I would do anything. to have the feeling of that. And I don't know. But it's not, we don't want just attention because if we did, we'd love going to those

breakfasts you were talking about. You're right, you're right. We would just love that. It's the performance. You're right. Because when I got off that stage, not one clap the whole time, I didn't give a damn. I thought I killed. I was like, well, these people are clearly just gathering themselves after I gave the

performance of a lifetime. Literally my life shows, it's like a hostage event. If people aren't laughing, I'm still going. And I'm having the best time. Like, I'm like, they can leave if they want. But I'm literally like in heaven. Like, I'm truly like doing what I'm supposed to. I don't know.

No, and that's a beautiful thing. And I think that's why you're so successful. Okay, this one says you belong to a Facebook group called Coffee Lovers and Sass. And posted in the group in 2018 that you were starting a copy business out of your driveway called Beans and Babies. Okay. I don't know about that. I definitely, like, definitely had a stage. where I don't know what the beans and babies thing is.

Maybe it was like a mother's coffee event. But I definitely used to post a lot before like doing videos. I would post a lot in like not like tons of Facebook groups. It'd be like. Caleb did the same thing. He said he joined a ton of them just to see. It's like prank humor. It's like literally prank humor.

It's like seeing what the responses will be. Then screenshoting it posting on my Facebook. It was like a way to do like like yeah. pranks on like, no one. Like, like, random nice people. Yeah, harmless. And I got really crazy in our high school reunion Facebook page. Oh, I can't hear about that.

And I was like, why would I come here? All of you guys were so mean to me. And then the meanest one commented was like, I wasn't mean to you. I said, you're the meanest one. Oh, and the joke part was I said, I'm a lawyer now. I was going to say, that doesn't sound like a joke. No, I said, you guys were mean. I'm a lawyer now.

And then she messaged me pictures of myself at the rainforest. Cafe and she was like, yeah, you really seem like a lawyer. I'm like, well, lawyers could go to the Rainforest Cafe. Like, why does that prove I'm not a lawyer? Like, I'm like, starting to believe I'm a lawyer. I'm like, hey, don't make me take you to court. This was after one of my meetings. I was there I won the big case. Yeah, after a big case. I just won the big, okay, lawyers can still go to Rainforest Cafe. Yeah, I'm like, I'm celebrating my case. Like, what is wrong with you? I'm like literally about to go to Harvard to prove her. Wrong.

Do you like the rainforest cafe? Well, did you like it? I feel like the food's really crazy because you could order something and it's so huge and then someone can order something and it's so small. It just isn't proportionate. Like, proportional. Yeah, it's not very proportional. And it's not that good, but I do love the atmosphere.

Like, I love the rain. Did you ever celebrate a birthday there? Definitely. Did you see the volcano bit that they do? Yeah. Like when the actual rain comes down. Yeah, and they like have the lights flashing and then they go, volcano. for like probably about two minutes too long,

but like they say that over and over again. So fun. Yeah. And I went to a birthday at the Rainforest Cafe. And when I saw that shit, I really felt like I was at Cirque du Soleil. I was like, oh my God, the pageantry of it all.

They're trying to save the real rainforest. They need to save that restaurant because they are closing everywhere. Keep the Rainforest Cafe going. Especially for all the lawyers. Where are the lawyers going to go? How are we supposed to party after a big stack of papers that we've,

went over with someone's divorce. I can't believe her looking at my page, like, oh, yeah, she's probably not a lawyer. I'm like, and she was so mean to me. And she was like my best friend and turned on me because the, like, cheerleaders didn't like me. It was horrible. And I was a cheerleader. I was a nerdy one.

That's really cute, though. I think that's beautiful. For a little tiny bit of time. I, my sister and I were athletes in high school, but we one time for some reason got like a wild hair up our ass and we're like, let's do cheer. never done cheer. We did cheer when we were little, but like, because my mom was a cheerleader for a long time. But I, once I grew out of being a flyer, I was like, fuck this sport. Like, if I can't be thrown, I'm not. Oh, I was going to say, I could see you be a cheerleader because

you're so charismatic, but you would be the one that's like a nice cheerleader. Thank you. I appreciate that. We literally were like, okay, so since I'm a big bitch, like, how am I going to demonstrate like my contributions to the team? And I was like, oh, I'll just like hold someone. Like, I'll just like be a base. You had to, yeah. Right. So I was thinking that. And we literally rehearsed so much like for the audition and then like the day before you have to rehearse like practice holding each yeah yeah yes and dason was trying to learn how to do a back flip oh i never got i a man would have to come and flip me over and i could do a back handspring if he was flipping me over and i worked for years on that like what's the point he's not going to come on the court and do that well i need you i need you

otherwise i can't do my flip yeah yeah so and then we bailed like the day before we were like oh really do you want to go to that and we were like no wait that's so cool and we just didn't show up But we were talking a big game. That's cool. We were like, we're going to go and we're going to be cheerleaders. And then we just, we both looked at each other and we were like, that's way more cool and powerful than like what I did, which was not make the team a year and then never do it again. You know what I mean?

Like waiting, like waiting seeing if my name's on the paper. Oh, yeah. Come on. I've done that though. They should let anyone that wants to be a cheerleader on the squad. No shit. You can never get enough pet. It's like have 50 girls out there doing it.

And it takes the power away from like. popular girls. Also, like, split them up so they go to each sport. You know what I mean? Well, yeah. You can cheer on every sport. You have endless amounts of cheerleaders. Could you imagine an adult watching poor me try to do a cartwheel and then be like,

she's just not cutting it. For, like, eighth grade cheer? Like, what a loser. I know. What loser. Again, it's back to the creepy guy that was like trying to control your improv. It's like powerful. I'm like, just let us all in.

Let us all be Maria in sound of music. Oh my God. How fun. Five marias at the same time. Doing the lines at the same time. All starting at different points of the song. Yes. And then you all meet up at the end. That's so, taking turns. Every scene there's a new Maria. How fun is that? And everybody looks completely different.

Yes. No harmony whatsoever. The two guys that auditioned for the guy part could be switching off and then like 12 girls I want to be the lead. Like switch. Yeah, I think so. Why not? We're chalk full of ideas. we got to write them down so we don't forget.

We need to start a children's theater together. With your brother. Yeah, with my brother. Because he can teach them how to ask. Yeah, well, obviously, we need a true thespian like my brother to be able to give out tips. And then we'll all play basketball. Yeah, just for fun. That's besides the point.

Well, thank you for coming on the show. I fucking love you. I love you too. I've had the best time chatting with you. Me too, for real. A lot of times on podcasts, I can keep my mask off on. Sorry. And now I'm taking it off for you.

I felt like I was myself. I'm so glad. I'm so happy to hear that. Mask back on. Oh, but by the way, like you could tell what my shirt says, right? Because yes. I did an interview where I was wearing a shirt that said irresistible. And the woman, it was on Zoom, and she said, I love your resist shirt.

Resist. And I just was like, because I didn't want her to just know that it said, like, I'm like, I'm not going to be like, no, it says irisist. Because it's like the words were bit. Resisting really heard. Well, thank you so much. Does it? That's for me, because I'm the ally. Resist and really her.

I mean, there's nothing wrong with me wearing an ally shirt. No, absolutely not. Allied to straight people. Yes. And then also resist, of course, but irresistible. I mean, that is what the shirt says. That's obviously. That makes more sense.

For what I, the way that I was dressed up. and I had a pearl necklace on, you know. So. There's something about resist with like a big like pearl necklace. That's kind of not. Yeah, it's not really hitting. Yeah, it doesn't hit the same. I agree with you.

Well, you know what? I fucking love you. I think you're a star and I'm so happy you got to come hang out with me. I feel the same and I never want to leave and you're a star. I feel the same about you, not myself. I feel the same about me. Thank you. I feel the same about you and I can't believe that you are really her.

Because I've been a fan for so long. Thank you. And we're really us. And I'll be resisting not seeing you again. Right? Or wait. I can't resist seeing you again. You'll find it.

You'll find it. You'll find it. Thank you so much for coming for maybe the one straight person that's unfamiliar with you that watches me. Where can everybody find you? You can find me on TV sometimes. And you can find me online and in my show too much in my show, hacks. that the season's coming out by the time this airs maybe it's out now.

And a new secret project coming soon that you're going to... She doesn't even know. And a new secret project coming that I know you're going to crave. Bailey told me not to say it. Bailey told me not to tell you. But if it's already out,

then you'll know what crave means. Interesting. I'm getting an only fan. You're replacing Connor's story on Heated Rivalry? You're going to play him? I will be in a movie with Candace Owens. That's coming out.

Well, thank you so much for coming. I fucking love you. You're a fucking star, and everybody knows that I've seen your praises everywhere I go. I'm so happy I got to hang out with you. And I'm so glad that you get to see my secret project coming soon. You're going to crave it. You're going to be craving it. It's going to be unexpected.

There you go. I believe it. And thank you all so much. I was coming out with a line of shoes, like wide shoes, plus size shoes. wide shoes plus body positive shoes like just wait does Bailey want me to talk about the shoe thing my fat girl shoes fat girl shoes is so funny yeah one time a really huge brand um had like an idea and they were going to want it to cast me in like a commercial thing underneath my my bio they had my name there were other people next to me that were like star singer songwriter grammy award

winner. Undermine body positive influencer. That is making my stomach literally work. Do you know that

Jenny Craig asked me to be the it? I'm not kidding. I literally was like, it doesn't matter how much money.

I really can't do that. Wait, wait, it's not even just like commercial, it's like be the new person. Like,

which would be so funny as a joke. Like the Atkins guy. Like literally be Jenny Craig woman. Like be the supposed, the sports,

the, spokesperson and I said like, well, I don't think I should do that right now. And it was pretty early on. So that's what I'd be known for. You would be like, where can people find you? I'd be like drinking in one of the shakes and on Jenny Craig. Jenny's Craig. You're on.

I don't care how much money I really can't be doing with me. I can't, you guys. Come on. I'm serious. It's okay. You've been hit up by them. I've been hit by Weight Watchers. I'm being serious.

I can't wait. And I said, you know what? Like, let me just, you know what? They have to wait till we come to me like that. I'm like literally trying to enjoy my morning. I'm trying to enjoy my damn morning. I'm at a coffee shop getting a call. My manager's completely scared to her wits to tell me.

I'm like, literally keep it to yourself next time. I don't want to hear about that. Imagine having your job being you have to call someone and tell them that Jenny Craig wants them. And there's spokesperson forever. I'm like, forever. Who's that guy that does Atkins, the actor? He's a white guy. Rob Lowe.

That's who it is. He does Atkins, like, for, like, forever. He's been doing it for the last 20-something years. Well, I'm like, also, like, do I have to eat the stuff? Like, also, I'm imagining they would want me to lose a little bit of weight to be, like, I'm loving it. You know what I mean? Like, also. You can't do that right now.

I can't. I literally can't get, like, please do not talk to me about this right now. Like, I'm like, I'm thinking about, I'm imagining, like. I mean, we sweat laughing about it. as a joke, but I just don't think that they wouldn't know I was doing it as a joke. How funny as a joke? Like if I did it right now, as a joke,

but I can't just do that. And us filming, them being like, let's get those pants up higher. They have me holding my big fat pants up. I know. Look how big these are. And I don't even fit in them anymore. That's the type of shit they bring us.

It's crazy. I know I can't. Also just imagining, like, yes, she seems like she is big enough where it's still hot, but she also could lose a little bit weight from our thing. And, like, you know what I'm saying? They're looking for people that could have, you see them and you go, maybe they just lost a little weight. Yeah. They don't want anyone like too, like, big.

They want someone the perfect amount of curvy. I can't. And they wouldn't describe us as curvy. That's the, like, most. That's the most insane part. No, exactly. They wouldn't even use that worse or service. They wanted someone, they wanted someone chubby that people can call fat online,

but someone not so chubby that they wouldn't, that they had to get the pants too too big. Yeah, exactly. Like, yes. They need a believable fat. Yes. You know, they're like, yeah, like some people, they're like, oh, she needs to be, I played like a stripper. Like that was, I had to be, like, believable.

And then ours is being a big fat guy. Like that's who the fuck ours is. I can't. She's believable. Yeah, she's not going to do the Jenny Craig thing just yet. Yeah. Like, I can't, I'm like, right now in my career, I cannot do that. I actually think now I could do it and people would be like, this has to be a joke.

Yeah, that's true. But before, I know if that was the intro to me. No, you're smart. You're very smart. Yeah, now I'm ready if you want to come back. Now, A. Who did take that job? Because I haven't seen any Jenny Craig commercials.

Me either, to be honest. Maybe Rob Lowe. Or like the Weight Watchers thing. I don't know. Who took that? I don't need to know. Thank you so much for coming on the show. You are an amazing actress.

You are vulnerable, hilarious, genius, and I, like, I feel so connected to you. Thank you. Likewise. I know that people feel that way when watching you. So I know you're going to get a million acting jobs. Thank you. And I can't wait to continue to watch your star powers, like, just shine. Like, people are now becoming so aware of how amazing you are.

And it's about goddamn time, honestly. I can't wait to keep watching you rise. Like, you are so important to. the space. And I loved having you. I think you're a gem. I love you. I love you. Look at us. And you mean the world to me. And I know you would never take a joke from Caleb. No, never. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate the confidence in it. Thank you all so much for tuning in to this episode of the comment section show. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Meg Stalter. I'm sure all of you already know her and follow her and consumer

content. But if you haven't, please fucking do. She's a genius and incredible. And I called it. I knew she was going to be a star. But that's besides the point because you can watch new episodes the comment section every Wednesday. Don't forget the audio is available on all streaming platforms for the video list for free and exclusively on Spotify. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Meg. Thank you so much to all of you. And I'll see you next week. Bye. Yamava Resort and Casino at San Manuel is California's number one entertainment destination for today's superstars. Catch the Jonas Brothers return to the Yamava theater stage on April 30th, the powerful vocals of Demi Lovato on May 17th, and the signature Southern Country Rock of Eric Church

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