The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - RHETT & LINK WOKE UP IN A COLD SWEAT (Ft. Rhett & Link) | Episode 238

Episode Date: September 9, 2026

The legends behind Good Mythical Morning are finally here!! Drew talks to Rhett & Link about their blindfolds getting into the Smithsonian Collection, the birth of their Youtube empire, eating a dissection worm to impress a girl, becoming a Jeopardy question, using a screwdriver to run their shared Ford Bronco, the secret Order of the Engineers, and so much more.The season 30 premiere of Good Mythical Morning is now available on Netflix.Follow Rhett & Link on IG: https://www.instagram.com/mythical/Follow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/?hl=enGet 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code COMMENTSECTION at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

So we're walking by and I just see, oh, there's a bike on the wall and I just touch the tire. That's like hon, hon, hon, honk. And yeah, yeah, I honk the bike horn. No, there was no bike horn. You said, my bad, my bad, my bad. And the woman says, no touching, no touching. Hey, everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your favorite. Everybody knows me who cares about me.

On to the guest. Today we have the iconic, the legendary, the men themselves, right and link. Woo! Hey, hey! The mythical morning legends themselves. Oh, my God. Good mythical morning. Oh, my God, of course I would say that.

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Not even. Honestly, I'm a little shaken up. Are you? I awoke in a cold sweat at like 4 a.m. from a nightmare. Oh, no way. What'd you have? Are you willing to share her about? This is not something that normally happens.

It doesn't. But I was in high school. I was on the high school basketball team in my dream and in real life. This is just an excuse to talk about your glory days. Okay. He's about 70 feet tall. Are you about to bring up my high school record for three-pointers, which was 77 in one season? Because I wasn't going to bring that up.

Okay, yeah, that was my record. Yeah, 77 points. We just started. So I was getting ready for a game. And for some reason, the opposing coach for the other high school team, was Steve Nash, Googling. Right.

And he was looking at me with his arms crossed, like watching me warm up. Yeah, what kind of high school did you go to that's Steve Nash is coaching? Well, this was the opposing team. Oh, got you.

And so, and he was looking at me, you know how sometimes they'll separate the courts with like a net, like if we want to play like two different games? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Steve Nash is looking through this net at me.

And so I'm a little bit nervous and then I look down and realized that for some reason, I'm just wearing old, low top vans. at the big game. And I'm like, these are too slick. I got to get some shoes.

My dad takes me across the street to the Walmart, which we didn't have a Walmart across the street. We had a tobacco field across the street in our high school. Naturally. He gives me these big black high tops that are Nike's, and there's a green swoosh. Link knows that that's not the colors of our high school. So I'm like, now I got to play with these green and black shoes,

but then when I get back to the game, they're sliding all over my feet, for some reason my dad got like size 18 shoes and then that's when I woke up in a cold sweat and I've been uneasy since that point. That's your worst nightmare being suited up poorly from the big game. When Steve Nash is watching this.

He has really worked up to be here. Right, right, right, right, right. I think that's what this is about. Yeah, I'm Steve Nash. Yeah, you are. And I'm watching you in the two big shoes. I almost bring in the net. I almost wore my low top vans.

I mean, I'm glad you didn't have to perform the low top vans. You probably probably would have done worse. Yeah. Who knows if that dream had to continue. But you did play basketball in high school. I love to hear that. I'm glad that heights being put to use.

Yeah, not anymore. Yeah. Not anymore. It's just creating physical problems. At this point now, your body's giving in on you. You're both really tall. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing about Link. Thank you for saying that.

You're welcome, Link. You are tall. I'll give it to you. Yeah. Are people shocked when they see you in real life and see how tall you guys are? Do they kind of guess? Yes. When they see us, they usually turn to me and say,

you're taller than I thought you would be. Right. Yeah. It's not, yeah. And they're too afraid to talk or look at it. They just thought that Link was like 5'4. Really? They think I'm 5'4 too.

You know, the funny thing is, ever thought about people thinking that you're short? Right. It creates, like, you know how you know this? Yeah. The version of you that exists on the internet is not who you are. No, it is. You're super authentic and people know who you are and like you're not being somebody. whole thing but because it's like we are you know entertaining yeah like dramaticized versions

of ourselves yeah they might perceive you and be like okay well i don't know how tall she is but i'll just say she's five six or whatever and they might say you're five six right as well yeah and so the fake version of you that people have identified with is a short man that's an interesting maybe that means maybe that means you're safe i actually know i don't think about it at all ever believe it or not that ever crosses my mind, ever. I do find it concerning that they think I'm small only because I've said quite frequently and often how tall I am.

But I don't get, wow, you're taller than I thought. I get, you're huge. That's what I get. I get that immediately. They're like, oh, you're like huge, which I was like, all the adjectives you could use, you use that one, no worries. Not a big deal to me.

But I do- For the record, I'm sorry, what is it? Five-10? How tall I am? Yeah. I'm six feet, if you can believe. We're the same. We are this?

Are we? Yeah. I feel like you're tall. than me. I just got a little bit more hair. My hair's going in a different direction. A little more volume on you than me. I got to tease my hair up so I can be the same height of you. So I'm still shorter than either. That actually feels good. Or we're like the same. I mean, honestly, I feel like people think I'm small probably because I'm like mean online to men. So I think they just kind of assume I come in a tiny package. But I did, I once like when I was standing like eye level

with the rock, I like tweeted that picture. I was like just in case anyone doesn't believe me. Like I'm, he looks normal size standing next to me. Most of the time he makes everyone look this big. Right. So I was like, if this is enough proof, I feel like me being eye level with him is enough. But even then, they were like, well, you're probably wearing high heels. And I wasn't, but it's okay. And the thing is, is that I would say 90% of the time when people say that, and it is most of the time that when they run into it, you can see immediately the regret that that's the first thing that they said.

That's true. But here's the thing. That's true. When I run into a man who is as tall as me, I'm like, you are a freak. You're weird. I turn to my wife who's like 5'3 and I'm like, is that what I look like? Oh my God. Like that guy is so big, it seems like he's from a different planet.

Right. And she's like, you carry it differently. And that's a good supportive spouse. Yeah. We love a supportive spouse. She was trying to make me feel better. Well, I'm so happy to have you guys. You guys are legends, honestly.

And I mean that not in age. I mean that in impact and empire that you guys have grown. I would love to know just for the maybe two people that have never heard of you and they're like brand new to the world. Maybe they opened their eyes yesterday. Can you guys tell me about the inception of Good Mythical Morning and just like the whole how you guys started just generally online and how you guys started making content? And I do have to say really quickly, during BLM, I was so inspired by a, you guys,

a video that you made where you wrote a letter saying like talking to a white man. I was so inspired by that. I actually made my own video because I watched yours and I thought, wow, that is so poignant and so impactful that a white man is making a video like this. I think I should make a video too. And that was like one of my first reels I ever put on Instagram. But it wasn't, I didn't have a following. I didn't have anything.

I was just very passionate about it. So I like did this whole entire video on the history of the police department in the U.S. and how it was made from slave patrols and everything. I did a whole entire video on it because I was inspired by your video. I had to tell you that I forgot. Like I had forgotten that I'd made that years ago. So I have to say that. I was like I didn't see any of your videos link,

but I'm sure you made amazing ones. But I do remember Retz. Yeah, since I didn't write this article, I will brag on a little bit. Yeah, please. Letter to a white man is still, I mean, if you Google it, it's still out there on what, substack or something?

No way, it's a, I think it's like a medium article. A medium article. There's a video at some, I just read it. Yeah, he read the letter. You know, I mean, I, I, I was born and raised in North Carolina. We'll go back and talk about Good Mythical Morning in a second, but to talk about this letter for a second.

Yeah. I was born and raised in rural North Carolina. Like he said, the tobacco fields across the street from our high school. Yeah. So when he moved there in first grade, I mean, that's practically born and raised there as well. So it felt like an opportunity to speak from, I'm speaking for you now, but I was very proud to know. Yeah, totally.

To speak from our experience. growing up there and kind of having that point of view. Totally. And having the opportunity to be heard by maybe a different group of people than who most everyone was talking to at that time. Totally. So yeah. And it's still out there.

Yeah, it is. It was so impactful to me at the time that I was like, that was like one of the first videos I ever made online was like, before I started making TikToks and like being silly online, like I was like very active. posting about everything that was going on and I was like talking about a lot of things that were going on. It meant a lot to me to see people like yourselves with platforms also talking about it. But then when I saw your video, I was like, you know what, that's so, it's such a wonderful way of packaging something that is so huge and oppressive and awful into a way that people can digest it and understand it and even at best empathize with it and be able to relate to it.

So I remember thinking like, wow, what a wonderful way to package such a difficult messaging, like to be able to translate it, not just to obviously marginalized people who are well aware, but also to white people. Like, I thought it was amazing. I thought it was incredible. And I was like, I'm going to make one too. So you also had your impact on me. You both did. So I appreciate you guys. And also I did, I did not know you guys were from North Carolina. Carrie's from North Carolina as well. Carrie. Carrie. Tell them where you're from Carrie. Are you from Kerry, North Carolina? I'm from Wilmington. All right. Beach girl. Cool parts. Yeah, a beach girl. I know. So I was like, every time I find

know where someone's from if I know someone who's from there and they're in the room I'm like oh my god you guys know each other that's why they're states yeah that's why we have a lot in common but let's get back to mythical morning so we have over 3 500 episodes of good mythical morning now crazy I don't know if we've gotten to 35 we're approaching we're approaching if not surpassing 3500 past 3 000 last year yeah at some point I mean we we celebrated the 20th anniversary of uploading our first video to YouTube ever a couple of months back but Good Mythical Morning started as a side project for us to put out daily content just to have a conversation with each other that we would share with anyone who would watch in between videos that we would put out on a

monthly basis on our original retin link channel where we were making a lot of musical comedy and sketches yeah think lonely island but with sponsors a text So like, right. We knew that we wanted to tap into our longstanding relationship and the fact that we could, we're always shooting the breeze about something. Yeah. If we can monetize that, that would be nice. For real. But it was very much, it was a side project.

Yeah, which is crazy. It started very small. Yeah. But it started with the idea that, okay, we're trying to make things happen in Hollywood. And we've got a pilot and we're trying, you know, or a pilot presentation or whatever. We're trying to enter the industry, like once we moved out here.

Yeah. And it was, okay. Because we had had a television show on the IFC channel called Commercial Kings. That's why we moved out to L.A. Yeah. We observed a lot of other people, not a lot of other people,

but some other people who would see YouTube as a, like, training ground, stepping stone. And then they get the opportunity to go make a real television show. Yeah, totally. And they would stop doing the YouTube thing. And then inevitably, when you give the control of your, you know, your media existence over to somebody else who then decides they don't want it anymore, well, where's your audience?

And so we're like, no matter what happens with any of these projects that we are aspiring to, let's not lose the connection with fans. And that can be this daily show, which started, like I said, really small. It was just the two of us. Unscripted. We had a timer. We knew kind of what we wanted to talk about. and we would just kind of keep it around, I think at the time, closer to 10 or 12 minutes.

That's when you guys were Steve Jobs in the garage. It was just you guys. It was a garage. Yeah. It converted garage in Rett's backyard. Yeah. But we knew we didn't want to do any editing. We wanted it to be as conversational and as, like, organic.

As real to us as possible. Plus, we didn't want to invest too much time and energy in trying to edit or make it into something. And now look at you, now look what you did. You guys didn't want to spend enough time. Now look at you too successful. Well, I mean, we benefited from at certain points along the way of the algorithm, rewarding content that kept people watching. Yeah, totally.

So it's, you know, we were slowly developing a loyal audience of who we call mythical beasts. That's what they call themselves. Yeah, so when they would start watching. They would keep watching an entire episode. And then if another one would be recommended, well, it was, there were so many of them it was easy to binge. And I mean, not to get too in the weeds,

but like when YouTube, when the algorithm switched from being about views to being about watch time and keeping people watching longer and longer. Yeah, engaged. It rewarded the show and it really started to take off after a couple of years of us doing it. Yeah.

And became the main thing, We were doing it. There were so many lucky breaks along the way and so many changes that we were not responsible for, like, YouTube making that decision to reward watch time. We just, we were right place, right time, benefited from, you know, the algorithm. I really think that something that's so admirable about the two of you that I've thought about for years, obviously because you guys been doing this for years, is like you guys saw the value in YouTube. Like it's, I feel like so often, especially with now, I mean, the integration of, of traditional Hollywood. and the internet is like so inevitable at this point. Like they're kind of interchangeable in a lot of ways. But like before that, like the internet, like you said, was one of those like, well, I guess

I'll do this. But then as soon as I get what I really want in Hollywood, then I'm going to ditch this. But you guys saw a lot of value in YouTube way before other people did, which is why I think you guys invested early in terms of like commitment to it. And I also love how you guys have stayed really engaged with your audience over the years, grown with them, which is like hard to do. It's hard to age with your audience a lot of times, especially if you have something very specific you could age out of.

But the fact that you guys have been able to compound it has been incredible to me. I think that's amazing. I think one of the things, too, is that with all the traditional stuff that we've done, even the stuff that we were very happy with the way that it turned out, like some of the commercials that we made with Commercial Kings, still are like some of our favorite content that we've ever created. When you just kind of look at the whole show, if you sit down and watch an episode of that, if you're somebody who watches a Good Mythical Morning, you'll be like, it's them,

but it feels like there's some other influence or there's something else informing the way that they're coming across that I don't like because there was some other voices involved. Right. This is tough, right? Because you kind of want other voices. It's like we're not like, oh, we know exactly what it is that we are doing and we don't need any help. We need a lot of help, and we have a lot of help. But I think that there's just something about,

you realize that there's a place where we can make exactly what we want to make. Totally. Comfortable and we can come across exactly how we want to. Right. And we can decide how many episodes there are going to be in a year. Yeah, that's so true. We can decide when we're going to take a break. Yeah.

And that. You don't always have that control. You don't realize how valuable that is. Truly. That's so true. You know, it's funny, the number of people who are coming from a traditional background, who reach out to us now. Yeah.

You know, people who have incredible careers. Yeah. And they're like, how do we create something like what you guys are created? That was literally what. This is crazy. I was going to ask you guys that. I was literally going to ask you guys if you guys have had people asking you how to kind of pivot or be able to do both at the same time.

Because I feel like a lot of people who went up the traditional way now are kind of on the back foot where they have to like be engaging and they have to be able to make content and they have to be able to also show their personality, which I think has been squeezed out of a lot of celebrities in Hollywood, where it's like, I'm only going to sit there, I'm only going to answer the questions that have been approved. I'm not going to show you anything else about me because I'm not supposed to do that.

It is a completely different mode of working where it's, where, yes, creators package themselves in all different types of ways, but there's an intimacy to it that I think it's kind of a starting. Yeah. I was going to ask, when did you guys feel like Mythical Morning was like really like, like, okay, I think this is becoming like a thing, like a big thing that I'm going to have to pay a lot of attention to. Because obviously you expanded it and have an empire now, which I think is incredible. And we just had Josh on the other day, which we love Josh. Obviously you guys love Josh too. So I'm so curious. Like what like, when did you guys feel like it was really kind of shifting? And you're like, I think this is going to be a lot bigger than I anticipated. Obviously it started as like kind of a side gig. I'd say, uh, I'd say, uh, It's funny to say 10 years ago, but I would say about 10 years ago. 10 years ago and you guys are both 25, so that seems like that. That's right. When we were teenagers, when people who would recognize us on the street would talk about Good Mythical Morning more than they would talk about some classic music video or sketch.

We're like, oh, that person's watching Good Mythical Morning. And now it's 95% of the people. Yeah, they do not play about you guys. They might mention another thing that we did. Oh, also like this or that. Yeah. I think about 10 years ago when, well, also when we started seeing that the view numbers, we would put a bunch of work into a music video.

Like it might take weeks to months to fully produce everything from the music to the music video. And the view count on an episode of Good Mythical Morning was basically getting very similar numbers after like a day or two. we were like, something is shifting. This was not the plan, but it feels like we should lean into it. Lightning in a bottle, yeah. That was like 2015, 2016. Wow, that's so, that's crazy to think about it, 2015. That's crazy.

I was in college at the time, so I remember distinctly. Your guys' explosion. Right. One of the things that comes to mind for me is when Post-Milan came on the show. and then we became friends after that. The fact that everybody in the world was listening to a guy who wanted to come on our show because he watched it all the time. Yeah, it's crazy.

Everyone's a fan of him and he's a fan of ours and it really took a while to wrap our heads around that. Yeah, that is crazy to think about how. I was going to ask about that too because I know you guys, you guys are so ingratiated and like I feel like just the internet. Like, you guys are such a pillar in the internet to me. I was going to say, like, what's the coolest experience you've had since Mythical Morning has really kind of taken legs and now you guys have grown this entire thing? Like, what's been the coolest thing you guys have done so far?

I think one of the coolest things we got to do was we went on the Tonight Show. Sick. And we performed the first song that we ever wrote together, which was this rap. about Halloween. This was 1991 probably when we wrote the song. Nottie by Nature's OPP was really,

You down with OPP, yeah, you know me. Hell yeah, I'm very familiar. I mean, it's the first song we ever wrote, so we just, you down with Halloween, yeah, you know me. But then to, like, share that story on the Tonight Show. And they have the roots playing the music.

And Questlove, I'm very good friends with Questlove. did my first book so I'm big roots fan he is great I know right that was a genius like y'all such a surreal moment to have you know we rehearsed with them backstage and then we come out we're doing it and it was a little embarrassing it was yeah because it was a tongue and cheek down with Halloween yeah you know me you're all just forgive me while we do this but this is our very first song yeah we were in seventh grade yeah just just just just for perspective it was a very different time we were children that was that was That was a pretty good one. I would say another one that was very surreal was last year the microphone, our first microphone from our desk and then the blindfolds that we wear on the show and we're doing a blind taste test were put into the Smithsonian collection.

Whoa. And so. Me getting chills. And so they should be on display sometime this year. How fucking cool. Yeah, they said that we were later to this year. When we put them into the archive. they were like, we rotate things out of the archive onto the floor

and we'll let you know it'll be the next couple years or whatever, but we've gotten word that that's going to happen at some point. But so we take the microphone and the blindfolds, and they're like, let you walk into the archives and like open this filing cabinet. Well, we gave it, we mailed it to them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they took us down there to see where they had it stored

before they would put it on display. Oh, yeah, because we couldn't touch. We couldn't touch. Yeah. Once it's in the archives, we can't even touch it. It's no longer yours. Is it no longer ours?

No, no, no, it's no longer ours. It's not, it's theirs? It's there. We gave it to the Smithsonian. We signed it over? Yes. So, I mean, when you can't touch it anymore, I think that's pretty much any of yours. They go, they open the door.

This is like in the entertainment section. Okay. And on the shelf right, like, eye level is Indiana Jones's hat, the fedora from the movie. Crazy. And then beneath that is the puffy shirt. from Seinfeld. And then beneath that is our microphone and blindfold.

Damn, you're in great company. And I think what they do is they like... In the first Kermit the Frog was sitting up there. Oh my God. My sister would have cried. He was kind of great. Yeah, he had eaten something bad. Holy shit.

All the original Muppets. That's crazy. And I think they're like, okay, we're going to kind of make this ceremonial. Let's put them next to these famous things. And then after they leave, let's put them in the back. I think that's how it works, but it makes you feel really special.

Hell yeah. If I'm next to Kermit. Hell yeah. It hadn't touched anything, right? But then on the way out, just mindlessly, there's this 10-speed bike that's hanging on the wall, right next to the door. I think it's the one that Greg Lamont.

No, it was Lance Armstrong. Who's Greg Lamont? Another guy. Who the hell's that? Okay. Actually, he probably did cheat. But he wasn't. I don't know.

He's a cyclist? Yeah. Oh, well, I knew another cyclist. No, but it was Greg Lamont's. It was Lance Armstrong's life that way had taken off of the floor because you know. Shit. And so anyway, so we're walking by and I just see, oh, there's a bike on the wall and I just

touch the tire. That's like hon, hon, hon, hon, hon. Give it a good spin. I honk the bich horn. There was no bike horn. She said, my bad, my bad, my bad. And the woman says, no touching. No touching.

Yeah. I felt a little stupid. Oh, my bad. They ended up being me. I was the one who touched something. Out of the two of us, who was the one that would inadvertently touch. You're the toucher typically? Oh, no.

You don't think I touch. I was touching shit, though. I know how to touch stuff when nobody's going to see me. I like swung the bicycle. I got hold. I thought this is just somebody's bike. Yeah, they commuted to work and they hung it up. But I mean, now we're at this point where, what I mean, we're so jaded.

You know, you can't do it. I got a text of somebody who's like, you were on Jeopardy. I was like, no, I wasn't. Trust me. You did not want to see me on Jeopardy. No, I wasn't. No, I wasn't. We were a question on Jeopardy.

So was I. Look at us. The contest, is it? Yeah. It is. All right. I was trying to relate to you. All right.

What about who wants to be a millionaire? I was not on that one, no. You've been a question on that? I was not on that one, no. We were not a question. We were an incorrect answer. We were an incorrect answer on who wants to be a millionaire. That's not that big of a deal.

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Yeah, totally. And when you introduce your, I don't know how you feel about it, but if you introduce yourself as, well, what do you do? I'm a YouTuber. Right. You know, it's if you say I'm a creator, I'm a YouTuber, maybe there's a bit of, okay, well, anybody can do that. You're not really telling me too much at this point.

My neighbor's a YouTuber. Yeah. My other neighbors are YouTube. Well, everyone's an influencer now, too. Everyone, yeah, everyone's a creator. Everyone, yeah, totally. There's no real, like, specificity to it anymore. And you don't want to be like, well, because I don't like to talk about what I do.

Me either. You know? Yeah, same. But if they start asking questions, I'm like, well, yeah, it's like, we've been doing it for a long time. And, you know, it's like. I talk about the Jeopardy thing a lot. I just always drop the Jeopardy. Like, we kind of make a TV show, but we kind of make it for the internet.

Right. Not that we decided to put the show on Netflix so we could simplify conversations with strangers. Imagine, though, if you were like, it just makes my job description a lot easier. I have a TV show. It's on YouTube and Netflix, and then the conversation. It's on both of them. You know, we would not be here if it wasn't for YouTube. You talk about how we got here.

It's because no one gave us opportunities, we created opportunities ourselves using YouTube as the only place that would give us the ability to connect with an audience totally and the last thing we're going to do is abandon what we've built there no totally so Netflix is an additional stream for us it's in able yeah more reach yeah it's totally it's new people who haven't ever watched good mythical morning maybe they've seen a thumbnail on YouTube maybe they don't go to a lot of people just don't go to YouTube for their long form entertainment they're still using it for or how-to videos are really niche things. Yeah, totally.

About a TV show that you would watch on YouTube. They go to a place like Netflix for that. So our intention is that somebody who's never really given the show a chance, will give it a chance. Yeah. Find it for the first time. Absolutely. And that's a new audience.

Yeah, that's incredible. And I think that's wonderful, too, that you guys still review the Internet that way. I feel the same way, too, even moving forward in my career or moving into other forms of media. I've, like, said many times, I'm like, I'm never going to turn my back on the internet because the internet gave me everything I have today. And just like you guys, same thing with me. Like I had to really make my own thing.

Like I kind of had to, no one was really looking for a girl to be mean to men on the internet. I just kind of did it. Right. And it worked out. Thank God. Worked out. Now I'm talking to two legends. Look at me.

Worked out for me. A legend talking to the legends, right? I mean, you could be a little meaner. Come on. Let us. Hey, I tried. I tried. They got me.

Once they gave me that blue check mark, they said no more. Is it, A, A, A, act right. Act right. I'm looking. I'm looking at you now. It was one of those. But I think I would love to know when you guys decided to start kind of expanding the Good Mythical Morning, like, brand. Like when you guys started trying to build up more YouTube channels, because that's something I really admire about you guys too, that you guys are seeing value in other creators and wanting to, like, uplift other people on the internet that have something amazing to contribute to the ether.

Like, obviously the internet is so vast and expansive. Like we were just saying everybody's a YouTuber, everybody's an influencer, everybody's a vlogger, everybody's something on the internet because it's so accessible. So like when did you guys decide to start kind of building out a little bit more and like supporting other people's channels or seeing talent in other places where you're like, hey, I think this person has something. And I'd like to, because I think that's like my goal eventually too is to be able to like bring up other people as well and in a way where I can kind of like foster their vision

and their like dream of creating something and putting it out into the world. world. So when did you guys kind of come to that decision? At some point, we looked at each other and we were like, we're already old for this. Even when we started, like we started, we were like 30. And I think we had this idea that eventually people were just going to be going to realize they were just watching two middle-aged white guys and just be like, there's a lot of those already. Yeah. Maybe this is an Valid thought to have, yeah. And what is our legacy? What are we going to do?

Who else, in the same way that you're talking about, can we sort of have entered this world? Yeah, uplift. Yeah. And then it just happened really naturally with Mythical Kitchen as a prime example, right? So you've got Josh who we hired to help us make a dish that we really needed some culinary expertise for because we were literally doing something we called boiled for safety. That's what our crew did just to make sure that we didn't die when we ate something.

Right. But there was no culinary intention to it. So we bring Josh in to do that. And he makes us like a really, this gourmet burger. And then we realized we wanted to bring him back because we wanted to lean more into that culinary stuff on the show. And it took a while to get in touch with him. Like he wasn't even returning our phone calls for a while. He was a busy man.

And then eventually he did come on full time and he didn't really want to be on camera. He just saw himself. No way, really? He was more of a writer and more of like a food thought leader, I think. But then when you put him on camera, he would just turn on and you realize how smart he is, how entertaining he is. Totally. And how much he knows about his craft. It's like savant level.

Yeah, and cares too. And so we just were like, yeah, let's do some more of that. And then he developed his own audience. And now he's essentially with that team over on the mythical kitchen side, which is, you know, in the same building with us and part of mythical, they are really leading that effort and coming up with their strategy and what they want to do and who they want to reach. Yeah.

And obviously with our support, but they have the vision for that. And so it happened very naturally as an outgrowth from, you know, it started as a weekend show on Good Mythical Morning Day and it became Mythical Kitchen and then they developed last meals. Yeah. So I would say it was to overuse the term organic. It was very organic. Yeah.

And I think that we're very glad that that happened. it's incredible to see the success they're having. We're not really in this like, how do we do that again? I think we were in the place like that. But, you know, it has to be a really special situation. I appreciate that about you guys. Yeah, it's not like a productivity thing or like, I'm going to pump out a million channels.

It's like when you see something that you really think is special. I think that's wonderful that you guys have that kind of discernment. I think some creators, creators who shall not be named on this podcast, I know for a fact people have plans to, say, I want to have the number one channel in this category and this category and this category and this category. And it just, to me, it feels like ambition for ambition's sake. I agree. And it just feels like, I'm just doing this.

Like, it's the same thing that happens when you have engagement for engagement's sake. Yes. You end up making something that has no soul. And it may be reaching a lot of 10-year-olds. Right. Yeah. Because they don't have souls yet. Yeah.

They're developing their soul. Yeah, they're developing it. And you're going to snap. You're stealing it right from them. Yeah, for real. And making them think that this is what they need their, they just need their lives to be about transaction and productivity. And making money.

And making money. Yeah. It's kind of like every time I go into my kids' bathroom, the fans are. I'm like, you realize how hot it is? Outside. I'm trying so hard to keep it cooling here. And you're just sucking it all out through this. God damn fan.

This magic pipe. Now, it needs to be. to be on at certain points. I got two boys who share bathroom. It needs to be on at certain points. All the time. But then, well, maybe they're right. Maybe they're on to something.

I'll correct myself. I mean, they go to work and go to school. And then I'm like, don't leave the fan on all day. Yeah, it's such an old man thing to do too. Something your dad does when he goes to the bathroom. He's not a old man thing to notice it and point it out. I can hear it. And complain about it.

I pull up in their driveway. I can hear that. That's a, that's a, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's. That's how souls are being sucked out of 10 years. This episode is brought to you by Vinted. If you're like me, it feels like you have an infinite amount of clothes in the back of your closet that you tell yourself you're going to wear but never actually do. And when you get new clothes, you have absolutely no room for them.

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We were tempted to be like, what can this be? And what does it look like to take on investment? What does it look like to blow this thing out as that? big as it possibly can be but then you start thinking like but what why yeah why is we we never what does your life become exactly right comes about it just becomes numbers numbers we never took on investment but we for for many years we were we were configuring mythical in a in such a way that we could if the right opportunity came along totally because we didn't We didn't know exactly what we were thinking about it,

and how we felt about it. And we didn't, we didn't, and we were like, we can utilize an investment and go after bigger and better things. What it ended up looking like, though, was an widening of what mythical offered. There became an incentive to platform other people. Yes, there's a good side of that, but then there's also this less broadened

mythical means beyond just the two of us so that we can attract more of an investment. Yeah, totally. Then you start having conversations about verticals. Yeah. And you become obligated. I thought verticals was like your vertical leap. You know, that's where that's, I was in that world. You know, me and basketball.

You know me, I'm a big basketball head. Although my vertical's not great. Basketball's always on the mind. It decreasing every year. But when they explain, oh, no, you need to be thinking about different categories of content that could be under this umbrella. then you sit so you got excited about that for a little bit yeah you sit back and you think what am i excited about that vertical like is that right anything to do with anything at all that i'm interested in

right totally and yeah okay maybe you're your your your or maybe you can find someone else who is passionate about that vertical and you can platform them again that that's a noble cause but it's a particular calling yeah i agree you know if you're not asking for our advice but I would love advice. This is me asking for advice. This is me. I'm picking your brains because I do think you guys, what I love about, obviously you guys have built this empire and that, and I mean that very literally.

But I also think you guys are good people and that's something that I think is hard to find. Like it's hard to see people who are building in an intentional and impactful way as opposed to like you said, compounding for the sake of numbers and money. And I call that in the creator world like in this like kind of internet weird, in between world of internet and Hollywood. I call that like being spiritually glutness. Like when you feel like I need to make anything and everything that produces, that makes money, that gets me attention. There are thousands of things I've said no to because I'm like, for what?

Why would I, why would I ever need to do that? I don't need to do that. When you become everything, you become nothing. Exactly. So I think that we really, I don't know if it's just that we're getting older, but we've changed our tune on that. And we're still as ambitious as we've ever been. But it's about things that we are like naturally drawn to and feel like, does this thing need to exist? First of all, does this thing need to exist?

More people should be asking themselves that when they make content. And are we the ones to be making it? Is there something about us, our experience, and our expertise that actually necessitates us being the ones to make this? Right. If we can check those two boxes, we'll do it. Yeah. Just doing it for the sake of it. Yeah.

That is, again, it's a soulless place. Yeah, that's how I've described it too. I actually talked to Josh a lot about that too when we, when we were, because I was explaining to him also on his episode that I, I love the way that he interviews and stuff. I think he's really connective. And I think you guys are like that too. And I think that's why you guys have been able to sustain for so long because I really do, I've made this joke multiple times on the show, forgive me if I'm repeating myself. But I've said like in order to get to a certain level of success in this industry, I feel like you have to be a really genuinely good person, which means it will take you longer. or you have to be pure evil and you'll get there fast. And I was like literally it will squeeze out people who are not pure evil or pure good. Like it will squeeze them out. And I was like because that's the only way you survive. You have to like get there the right way or get there the evil way.

There's only two ways up. So I was like in the good way just takes you longer. And like even like I mean even with the world of TikTok like I blew up in TikTok around like 20, 21-ish. But I was old in TikTok year. TikTok years, I was a thousand years old when I started. I'm 30 now, but like at the time, I was like 24, 25. Everybody was 16. So I did feel the same way.

And it was one of those where I was like, okay, I like this. I don't like these things. So I'm not even going to bother trying to do this stuff. It doesn't bring me joy. I don't think I'm the one who should be doing it. Like I make a joke all the time that I can't sing. But if I could, I would have put out like three EPs by now. If I could.

If I could have, I would be wreaking havoc on the music industry. But I can't. And I'm not even going to try because I can't. So it's like one of those things where I don't need to do it just because I now have the platform. And that's why I think you guys are so wonderful in terms of how you've built. I talked to Brittany about it a lot, actually, because I know you guys love Brittany like I love Brittany. But I'm like, I really do look up to you guys in that regard because one of my goals eventually

is to be able to platform other people and be able to make the art that they want to make and that I feel passionate about too. But maybe I'm not the best voice like you were saying, maybe I'm not the person to make it, but I can help put you there. so you can make it. And I would love advice. I know you guys were in the middle of trying to give me advice. I would love advice about how to build so intentionally.

Like how did you guys, did you guys just like, was there a lot of like kind of hits and misses or was it kind of like you guys are just locked in together and you're able to make it happen? Like how did you guys kind of get to that point where you felt like, okay, I think this is the way I want to build. Like was it just naturally. I think we've always been locked in. in terms of with each other, in terms of where we're headed and what we're, we get alignment on what it is we're going after. And I think it's, it's always been important for us to have

things that we are going after. Yeah. And being on the same page about that. So we've had the advantage of the support structure of this, you know, this longstanding relationship. We're like an old married couple. Like, you know, we've got this. You guys are work wives. Yes, we'll, yeah, we'll bicker and we know how to push each other's buttons, and we know way too much behind everything that, everything he's saying today, I know everything behind it. Yeah, for real. It's 40% bullshit. Yeah. 40%. Yeah, I just, I, I'm sorry, I just got to break it to you. Noted. I think it's been really important that we've had each other and that we've stayed in as lockstep as possible moving forward.

And yeah, you're right. The target is always moving. The thing that we're going after, I mean, we are extremely passionate about Good Mythical Morning. We're extremely excited about continuing to shape what that show is becoming. We think of it as something. that is constantly evolving. Yeah, it's like living, breathing.

You're talking about as our, like, growing up with our audience, that's a part of it. When it comes to that, we work very hard to remain engaged creatively with the show. Because it is the engine from which we're able to drive towards all the other things we're trying to do. Yeah, absolutely. All the other projects that we're hatching or working on that we're not even able to talk about yet. The fact that we have a backlog of all of those passion projects that Good Mythical Morning enables, it's a balance of working on Good Mythical Morning in a way that rewards us and gives us enough time to invest in the other things that we are passionate about and want to go after.

Now, in the past, talk about investing in other creators and kind of what you're thinking. There's a cost to anything you invest in, right? Yeah, totally. You know, you can only do so much. And as you build a team, sometimes you can see that you have the capabilities to do things. And then you can wield the capabilities of a team to go after things with less involvement from you. Yeah, totally. But still, when it comes to, like platforming all the creators and what they want to go after.

Yeah. You have to figure out how much you want to be involved and how, you know, And then how much, because you don't want to spread yourself too thin. Yeah. It's that simple. I think for us, you know, we have literally invested in other creators in the past. And we're still have an interest and we're still supporting those creators that we've invested in. We invested in Smosh at a time when they could have gone away, but we kind of kept them going.

And we didn't know we were biding our time to then be able to hand it back. over to Ian and Anthony at the same time. And they're absolutely flourishing without any involvement from us, which is, we're ecstatic about that. Yeah. But it's not something that we want to continue to do at this point in our careers because with our level of capacity, we are really focused on the things that we want to create. And we've learned having invested in other creators and platforming other creators in different

ways that like okay this is not the season for us for that now because we've experienced the amount of work that it does take that's such a good point if you want to do it right and you want to give people what they actually deserve right they need yeah it's going to take something from right and if you've already got the show that is you know in our case coming out Monday through Friday most of the year, which in and of itself could be, it should be maybe

if you talk to our wives a full-time job. But then you also want to do other stuff. Yeah, totally. That you're very passionate about. It just becomes this equation of, okay, we want to make sure that these things that we are doing

are good and that they're like, they bring life. Yeah, totally. You know? Yeah. And when you start looking at something and it feels like, oh, this has become an obligation,

not something that brings joy and brings real life that feels like it's coming from a place. And again, this is all a very highly privileged position to be able to have a conversation to be like, just follow your passions. Right, yeah. Because I think that that in a lot of ways can be a lot of people give that advice to young creators and people. And it's just like, I mean, this is a tough world to follow your passions. Shit, let me tell you. Right.

For real. But to be in a situation where you're privileged and a lot of things that worked out and we're okay financially, we do have the privilege to say like what are we passionate about and to ask that question like what do we need to be doing? Right. What do we want to be doing? No, totally.

I think that's a wonderful way. Yeah, like the balance of it. Like how do you guys balance? That was my next question. So it's a perfect segue way. It's like how do you guys balance like in terms of how do you reset? Because when I talk to creatives a lot on this show too, like a lot of Glazer when I had her on,

she was telling me like when I got pregnant, I was like this is my time to take time off because like I had just done Broad City. I had done like all of these specials. I was like just really at the top of my game. But like in order to be a creative, I have to go live life and I have to go like experience life. I can't just work all the time.

So she was like, so I took like a year to like have my baby and like be with my family and be present. And then I had all kinds of new jokes. I had all kinds of new things to refill my cup. So I guess my question is how do you guys refill? Like what do you guys like to do? I know you were telling me you just took a little break. So how do you guys refill?

Because that's been probably one of my big. bigger issues is balance. Because I feel like very aligned with y'all in the way of like this is like I'm going to move. I'm going to move on this. And there's something here. And I do have a very, very intense work ethic, which I think you need in this industry, especially in the topic of content creation like you really do.

It is like a shark mentality. Like if I stop swimming, I'll die. But then like I'll die too if I just keep swimming forever. So it is one of those like what do you guys do to refill like your cup? How are you guys doing balance? because I would love advice on that too. I would love advice on balance. I think we've tried to have our cake and eat it too

in terms of banking episodes of Good Mythical Morning. Totally. We'll take a longer break for the summer. But then leading up to it, our team has engineered the production schedule so that we can just have more sitting in the can. We have Good Mythical Summer, which instead of doing five days of week,

We go down to Monday, Wednesday, Friday. And then on either end of that, we'll take, I think, a week or two break from releasing the show. Yeah. But it's just we've cranked out more than we normally would in order to afford the ability to take off. And then if I, you know, I try to be dissimilar, look at my phone when I'm off, but I know that the show is still coming out. Yeah, totally. And so we have that luxury with the way that the show is produced. You guys have gotten to that point where you can kind of work around.

But it was absolutely important. I mean, whenever we decided that we wanted to take a longer break during the summer, we told the team it might have been a year ahead of actually doing it. Oh, nice. You got to plan, planners. Because our schedule is mostly determined a year out. Yeah, mine too. Which is crazy.

First of all, that's important. Yeah. Because you want to minimize. the number of decisions that you are making. Like the days of when us coming in, like when we got started, we would come into the office. It was just the two of us.

And if you didn't feel like working, you might be like, let's just go see a movie, man. Yeah. You know what? That was great. That was great. But those days don't exist anymore.

Not anymore, no. And so, and I think that that's something. And you're already there. People who are starting out think that like this is, it's easy. It's fun and it's a privilege. Yeah. It's not easy. I agree. I say the same thing. I was like, this is not. And you know what? I do, I will say I'm grateful that I did, started doing this when I was older because I had normal jobs before this. I went to college. Yeah, I've worked every fucking job you could think of. I've had very, I've lived paycheck to paycheck. I've lived on my own. I was like, I was so glad I was like a normal adult before I started doing this because then it does give you that perspective of like it is extremely difficult, but I could be doing shit I hate. And I'm doing something I love.

So it really does give you a better work ethic. And you're thinking about it when you're not doing it, which that means that you aligned your passion. Totally. I think we'll sit down with Jenna who handles our schedule and we'll look at like she's got it all color coded. Like there's a physical version that we look at. Then there's the digital version. Oh, I love a type A woman on my team. And you can look at it and you like, oh, this is what we've signed up for.

Yeah. And it's like, why are we doing that? because I can look at that day on a calendar and I can imagine what that day is going to feel like. And so you begin to develop a real connection between what you've signed yourself up for and what living through that life feels like. Totally. Yeah. Just being really in touch with that. Yeah.

And just beginning, like we always, every year we come back and we're just like, all right, what can we change? What can we not do? What do we need to set aside time for? Like, again, we've got a project that we just keep teasing with our fans. The thing that we've worked on that we can't talk about yet, that will be something that we talk about a lot in the future. Yeah. But the fact that we were able to do that,

given the amount of time that it took and is continuing to take, and still not feel like we're going nuts. Yeah. It's just a result of really aggressive scheduling where you look ahead and you have hard decisions. And a competent team. Yeah. Like you need a really good team.

Like, and a big team. Like, I'm sure you guys have a huge team. Sometimes when I've talked to people who are like newer to the world, I'm always like, who's on your team? Who do you have? Like you need a team. Like I think sometimes, especially younger people now when they get really big on like TikTok, they're like, well, I don't want a team because they take like commissions out of what you make.

And I was like, okay, well, I'd rather have 90% of something than 100% of nothing. And like you do need a team like that, yeah, they need to be paid. and compensated for working with you, but it does, I think, like, over time, it, it, you'll be thankful that you have, like, a really good, solid team. So I'm going to take that. Do you guys schedule in vacation? I've just recently started doing that. Oh, yeah. Last couple years. I've been, like, I need time off. Like, we're, like, literally I lay horizontal and nobody bothers me. I don't look at the internet. I don't do anything. It took us a while to get there. Yeah, that's what I'm, that's what I'm asking. But we've started taking an, like, an extended break

during the summer where we are technically off. There's still things that will... You guys can't help it, but be plugged in a little. This is a little bit of an emergency situation, and we need your feedback or whatever. Yeah. But essentially taking some time off and forcing ourselves to just do the things that we're interested in

and not think about content and not think about that. Again, we talked about like the version of yourself that you have created. And everybody's familiar with. And it's like, If you, like, sometimes you can begin to lose perspective and you begin to think that you are the person that they all have identified with. So true. And so then everything that you do seems like it could be content. Right.

Is that why I've gotten dumber? Yeah. It's brain rock. I have it too. I think that, you know, I don't use Twitter anymore, really. Me either. I deleted mine. But there was a time in which if you, if I had a funny thought.

Yeah. I might think, well, this could be a tweet. That's true. You know what I mean? And that is a, I mean, some people are really good at managing that. But when you get to this point where your thoughts could be content. Yeah. And you're like, I could have just thought a funny thing or said it to my wife or to link or whoever I was with at the time.

And it was just, it just lives in the moment and it is what it is. Yeah. But then what happens is, oh, my dog is doing something cute. That could be an Instagram story. Yeah. How about your dog just does something cute and that in and of itself is an experience. Yeah, totally. Right?

And I just think that it's hard. It's really hard to do. But the fact that we're kind of both bad at social media and the fact that we have a brand that lives outside of us that someone else is managing. So I told Jesse this when we were on vacation, I was like the very ambitious person in me gets antsy when I'm on vacation. And I think I'm not doing enough and like what we're going to fall behind. And then I'm like, yeah, but like you posted like six social media posts today. I did. I didn't.

But I am on the internet in many different ways. Yeah. And somebody else did it. Yeah, that's true. I'm not thinking about it. That's very true. So I think that it's like you, you sever that connection with that and you just be yourself. And then you've got a great team that's making sure that you are ever present in the way that you need to be in order to continue to be successful in this.

Yeah, that's so true. I feel like too with me, like one of the many things I've said no. to a thousand times and that does not stop them from asking me is reality TV. To follow me, I think it's because I'm perceived as a bitch online so they're like, this would be awesome on TV. So I'm always like, no.

Like from the very beginning with no team at all, I was like, no, I don't want to do that. And they were like, why? And I was like, that's the last thing I have is like my home. Like, you're going to come in my home. I was like, what if I just want to sit on the couch and scratch my ass? Then you're going to have to record me.

That's great content. Yeah, they're like, wait, wait, wait, right there. I mean, Mike you. I was like, the thought of that makes me feel suffocating. Where does that mic go, by the way? Oh, yeah. For real. That's not saying. I think it could go on the hand or on the ass. Watch they'll literally add folion probably of me scratching something.

I was like, I just don't think I need to be seen that much. I was like, I think whatever it is I put out should be from me or I should know about it. I don't like the thought of someone recording me 24-7. I feel like it does start to make me feel like what you were describing, which is like, it makes me feel not like a real human. So when I'm like feeling overwhelmed by the internet, I'll like have what I called normal human people time, which is like I just don't go online.

And I do things that I did before I did this without having to think like, oh, I might have to. What if I posted this or what if I took picture of this? Like that kind of disease I also had to in the beginning where I was very like, I feel like I need to constantly. And it's because when I first started, I posted one video a day every day for two years straight. So like I just did it I did it because I wanted to but I was also at the same time I'm like well I have to be productive

I have to stay like top of mind kind of deal and then that's sort of killing me and I was like okay I can't do I can't do this anymore and then I had to like almost wean off of it like you were saying where like okay I haven't posted for like four days and it's that bad like will they forget about me that kind of thing I am working on it I'm working on deprogramming from it and you're already doing this but I think a lesson that we learned if you go back and you look at you look at you look at at our social media handles, whether it's Instagram or TikTok or whatever, and you go back four or five years, there was this period where we were

trying to make content that was specifically for those platforms. And we didn't know what we were doing. We made a lot of cringy videos. And then it just hit us one day. We were like, we put so much content out every single day.

On multiple platforms. And like, if you just take Good Mythical Morning and Good Mythical More, and you say, that is, you your output on a given day. Yeah. And there's so many place.

It's 40 minutes. And there's all these moments that happened in that content that could become a great social media. This seems like just like the whole clipping thing. This seems obvious. It wasn't obvious to us until we realized that we were making this show that put all this effort. And then we were coming up with some dumb sketch to put on TikTok or Instagram.

Right. And they were just like, let's just make the show, make it as good as we possibly can, and then say to our team. you guys find the best moments and package them in the best possible way. Yeah, just clip them, yeah. It works better for our social media. Yeah, totally. It feels like a more cohesive universe.

Yeah. But we're also not like, all right, let's, let's, we would take a day and make like 12 short form videos in a day. Yeah, I saw, I saw someone say that. When I first started posting videos, they were like, oh, I post like 12 to 15 TikToks a day. And that's how I. We didn't post them every day, but we would bank them. That's just crazy. But for us, it was we were, yeah, we were an entire day.

What else could we do with that day besides just make one-off TikToks that aren't strategic for how we actually want to express ourselves? Right. And they're not aligned with what you guys are wanting to. And it wasn't coming from us and our ideas. It was just like, oh, guys, here's a trend. Let's put these two middle-aged dudes doing this trend. And it's like the fact that we're three months late to the trend. Like a middle-aged white guy would be

Yeah, it's very obvious that we have no idea what we're doing Yeah, we were on brand Don't get me wrong That became weirdly enough it was working with the brand It's like, they're always late Yes, so the way this whole system works Like, why are we doing this? Okay, I do have some fun facts about you

Y'all, or both you, y'all will let me know if they're fun. Okay. And if not, I do put a strike against Amanda If you guys say they're not fun. Her job's on the brink. Got it. Got it, got whether or not they're a fact.

Yeah, yeah. No, just whether or not they're fun. Yeah. Okay, this one says that you once jointly owned a 1992 Ford Bronco as a, quote, company vehicle and for camping. According to my taxes, it was a company vehicle. It was very fun. That was very fun until we're on the side of a mountain and it won't start. And we have to use a screwdriver in the ignition to get down the mountains.

It was actually putting a screwdriver into the ignition and hitting it with a ham. Yeah. What kind of jalopy were you guys driving? I mean, a 1999. Also, while you were going. I do love a 92 Bronco though. Full speed. Like you're going 65, because I don't think if you get to 70, 65 miles per hour down the highway.

And it would just shut off. Just like completely. Get the screwdriver. And that would, you would lose power steering. Oh, my God. be barely down the highway. Scary as hell. You would have to crank it back up while going full speed.

And then to get, yeah, we got rid of it. Get the hammer. Very fun. Very fun, Amanda. Ben, our director, who's worked for us forever. He bought that. He bought the Bronco off, you guys? Yeah, I think for like $400 or $100 or something.

Damn, he got a steal too. I think we had a, yeah, he ran for two months. And he said, uh, sorry, final sale. No refunds. Okay, this one says you met in first grade when you, you both had to stay in during recess for writing swear words on your desk. What were the swear words? Very fun.

Well, the truth is we don't remember, but we have said that it was damn in hell because we weren't capable of worse than that. Anything worse than that? Anything worse? At the time. Although, when I was five years old, I lived out here. So from three, four, and five I lived out here. How interesting.

And there was a neighbor named Rochelle. And she was probably 12 at the time. And she, one day, she leaned into my ear and she was like, have you ever heard of the word? Oh, what kind of ominous whisper? And I was like, is this a proposition? I know, I was going to say. No, but I'll never, I'll never forget that. So I did know about fuck when I was five.

So technically I did know. But I would never have written it. No, there's no way. You're too pure of heart and spirit, both of you. But still fun. But still very fun. Okay, this one says as teenager. you were both members of a punk rock band

called The Wax Paper Dogs. Yeah, with a Z. Yeah, I see that, Paper Dogs with a Z. And what instruments did you guys play? I'm so curious. We were both, we were dual lead singers. You guys are conjoined twins. We just do the same thing.

We started as dual lead singers, and then me, because I have, you know, I have a shame, the shame reflex. I was like, somebody's got to play guitar, and I know it's not going to be, So we already had a guitarist. I started playing guitar, so now I play guitar.

Period. And you did play the tambourine in that band. Hey. And a lead singer, period. Yeah. Yeah, you need a little tambourine if you're a lead singer. Oh yeah. That little shoulder to be.

The only punk rock band in the county that had a tambourine. And that's what sets you apart. You knew. You were like, we need something different about us. I'm going to get a tambourine. I like how you started as dual lead singers, though. You're like, let's try it. Okay, we'll see.

And then we'll see who. Who's better? And no, no. I don't see that in your guys' this future, no? That's not shocking to hear. I'll say that. This says you were both inducted

into the North Carolina State chapter of the Order of the Engineer where members are given rings to, quote, wear on the pinky finger of their working hand. Ringless. We do not currently wear the engineering. Yeah, this one's not as fun.

When you get to the pinky ring. Why's got to be a pinky ring? You guys aren't rocking with a pinky ring? Not from the order of the engineer? But we both have engineering degrees. Period. I know that. And you know what?

That also makes perfect sense because you both are extremely smart. And everyone who's an engineer is always very smart. But you guys are far more social than a lot of engineers I meet. Yeah. I have met. Working very hard. I used to do, my mom was in PR for years. When I graduated from college, I couldn't get a job in the field I wanted.

So I went to PR. And when I did that, my mom worked with engineers because I, I always say like I did outreach for a major infrastructure projects, which basically means any sort of major construction, I was the girl going to your door and letting you know your commute's going to suck for the next, probably 25 years. Do you want to get emails about it? That was my job. So all I did was interact with engineers and stuff like that.

And so they are extremely smart, but not very social. So you guys are very social compared to most engineers. We're not very good engineers. And maybe that's why. God doesn't give with both hands. They were like, I'm going to give you this unbelievable talent in empire, but no engineering. Don't go into engineering. Okay, last fun fact.

In high school, Link ate a worm to impress a girl, and Rhett drew a detailed comic book-style picture of it. I think I still have this picture. And it was, to be clear, it was a worm's anus. Have to make that clear. Because we were dissecting the worms. In class. Yeah. So this one.

And so we had to identify the anus. Fromoutohyd or however you say that. Yeah. Which is a poison. Right. And you said, I know what we'll get her. She was cute. I had a way of, I wish I still, I'm not a good collection.

I mean, I just swallowed it like a pill, dude. It really wasn't that. She dared me. But for some reason, I did have a tendency to create comic book, like, maybe it's just one panel of moments that happened with you, with me, in our, friends. Mostly me. I was your muse. Something notable I would like create like a story and I'm such a bad collector.

I should have given all of those. I have it. I have it. Oh, okay, good. Okay, period. A comic book style picture of you eating a worm. Did it impress the girl? She said, do I dare you.

Yuck. I mean, the fact that we are still talking about it all these decades later, mission accomplished. Hey, she still lives. I wonder if she knows it's her. Do you think she knows that she's the girl you talk about? I try to impress it. I don't even remember. remember who it was.

In biology class? I think you guys were lighting oil lamps at the time. Do you remember? Could you see? Yeah. Can see it was too dim in there. Yeah, it was too dim in there. You guys are working by candlelight.

Yeah, I don't remember who it was. It was like, there was a girl behind me. I have to impress it. And that's the first thing that came to your mind. Yeah, I know what I'll do. I'll eat this worm's anus. And then I'm taking her own. Let me tell you.

Well, they're at the end of our fun facts. Did you guys enjoy them? Yes. All very fun. I'm so glad I do have to wrap now. They are telling me I have to wrap you. But I do want to ask one last. Actually, no. I don't want to ask because I've asked so many questions and I'm talking too much.

Yeah, just tell us something. I do want to tell you something. I think that you both are so just paramount to the space. I think you guys are incredible. And I think what you guys have built is so admirable to me. Like the way you guys have moved in the industry, I find just so. inspiring because I think that I can tell, like I said earlier, the intentionality you guys put behind how you guys build. And obviously the content you put out is so hilarious and so fun and it's impactful in many ways. But I think the way you guys have grown over the years really inspires me and how I want to run my business. And I think obviously on the entertainment side, you guys are evergreen, in my opinion. You guys are so fun and so informed. And I think there needs to be more white men like you guys. in the space.

And I mean that very literally, non-evil white men in the space is rare. And the fact that you guys are still here and you're still doing it and you guys care about such, like your activism too is also so inspiring to me, both of you. And so I do, activism is a huge part of my platform as well. And it's like at the forefront of a lot of the stuff I do. And I feel like people like you existing in the space

and doing so well now and then working with Netflix and expanding your empire even bigger. Really makes me believe that I can continue to hold my morals and everything front facing and not be afraid of it detracting from my career in any way. So I want to thank you guys for continuing to put that at the front. I think that's incredible. And I think what you guys build and everything you have built, you have earned. And I think you guys are amazing.

And I can't wait to see you guys keep being huge giants in the space. Like it brings me a lot of hope that there are good white men existing in entertainment. It brings me a lot of hope. We really appreciate you saying that. I hate to burst your bubble, but it is because of two wonderful women. And period. And that's on there too. And that's exactly why I like you guys.

Period. We're only doing this, literally, we're only doing this because the first time we ever like entertained a crowd as adults, it was at a friend's rehearsal dinner. And we like sang a song about him. And we get into the car afterwards with Jesse and Chris. who we were dating. I think, no, you had married. That's right.

Christian and I were newlyweds. And I was engaged to Jesse because Greg got married in the middle of it. Yep. And then they were like, y'all, they did say y'all, definitely. Y'all need to do something with this. And it felt like it was a, it was permission to be like,

you can go after this. We don't know what kind of life that will create and what kind of instability that will create. But when you come home, you better not be different. And I think that's... And as soon as you are, we're cutting it off. That's really...

I mean, we're grounded because of them and a lot more. And I think that's amazing and I believe you, first of all. But also, I think it's wonderful to see white men use privilege for good. It's a good thing. Sometimes you guys can do good things. Yeah. Sometimes. Thank you guys so much for coming on the show.

I fucking love y'all. You guys are amazing. I adore you. And again, for maybe the one or two. two people that have no idea who you are, which would be insane, where can everybody find you? Good Mythical morning on YouTube and now Netflix. Very exciting. Thank you all so much for joining us on this episode of the comment section.

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