The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - THE FUNNEL CAKE FIGHT Ft. Jessie Reyez | Episode 146

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

This week, the incredible Jessie Reyez is here!! Jessie joins Drew to talk about the transition from working horrible teenage customer service jobs to becoming a successful musician and songwriter. They talk about Jessie's unique writing process, showing up to work in roller blades, getting hit on by creepy married men, Moana cosplay, tattoos, getting fired, the power of alchemy, and so much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I was like, fucking, I'm going. Calling out of work and showing up at work, but as a patron. But I was like, how can I get in and out quick? And I was like, I know. Roller blades. Roller blades will get me in and out of there quick.

I'm dead ass. I was like 16. So I was like, fucking rollerblades, got some snacks. Like, went to the quick, the quick cashier. Anyways, I got a call later that night, and it was the boss, and she was like, it doesn't really seem like you want to work here. And I was like, you're right. Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show, starring me, your favorite. Everybody knows me.

Who cares about me? On to the guest. Today, we have the iconic, the legendary, the amazingly talented, Jesse Reyes. Welcome to the show, Miss Queen. How have you been? How's life? Life is good, man. Tired, at it, fucking stressed and blessed.

Right. it the only way to do it all right fine i'll confess something to you jessie years ago your song figures was my number one played song for the year all right it's out there no put it out there doesn't have to be weird we addressed it gone only weird thing i'm going to say unless something else comes back to me all right let let bless you but i and i'm sorry i've been obsessed with you for a very long time not in a weird way in a very honest way this is me being honest Ditto, I swear, I know, I'm going to repeat it, but pretend like this is the first time you heard it. The first time I feel like I watched many of your videos, I was literally amped.

Like, I loved it, and I felt so seen. Oh, I love that. It was so sick, and I was cackling my ass off, and the feminist in me was so happy that this guy was getting fucking roasted. And I remember commenting, like, I think I was like a hard emoji, and I was like, you're doing God's work. Yeah, and when I saw it, shit my pants. That's me being honest, too. I lied about the last thing. That's the last weird thing I'm going to say.

again unless something else comes up but I was I was so fucking fired up because I've loved you forever I just think you're an unbelievable vocalist and I think you're so special and amazing and if we fall in love oh well it happens to a lot of people on here love it I'm very charming

I'm a huge huge fan obviously and I just think you're so incredible and you've been in the business for a long time so obviously I'm very familiar with your lore but for those who aren't can you tell them a little bit about how you like got into the industry what kind of drew you to it obviously of a natural god-given talent but just like what your process was of kind of like getting into

being a vocalist yeah i mean i loved this since i was a kid i don't know about natural though i had to work my ass off to get better because i used to sound like absolute shit so i don't believe you i swear i had really bad pitch and honestly i still work on it i still like study vocalists that i admire and like breakdown runs and wow that's crazy yeah but that's also why anyone that that ever hits me and for example people that haven't found their passion or their vocation yet or people that have but don't feel like they're good and are scared of putting things out. I'm always like, fail faster, man. Just fucking learn how to take constructive criticism.

Right. Tell the people around you that you're not. First of all, learn how to have like good emotional equilibrium so that you're open enough to take it, but then actually have the like wherewithal to apply it and get better and objectively analyze yourself to how you could get better. But that's what I did when I was younger and I was able to get better. And then I was doing talent shows. I pretty sure I did a talent show at a mall.

And then... Like, how old were you when you did the television? It wasn't that long ago. It was like maybe 21, 22. Really? Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, crazy.

I love that. Where was it at? Toronto. Jane and Finchmont. Okay. Okay, period. Yeah. I joined this thing called the Remix Project that changed my life.

It's like a program for at-risk use from like 16 to 24 that don't have access to studio or mentors or anything like that. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it's lit. The Remix Project, I swear by it. they're great and that place changed my life but mainly because it was the first time that in my life had always been a dream and it had always been something that wasn't tangible that I couldn't touch it was always on a screen it was so far away so far removed and then when I joined that program um it was the first time that I was introduced to like real mentorship yeah and

someone came to speak who was king louis who's a droer rapper from Chicago who I loved a dead yeah and and multiple people came but he him being in person and being human and having succeeded, despite all the adversities that he faced, made it more of a reality for me to be like, okay, fuck, you could do it, you're human, you bleed like me, you breathe like me, I can do it too. That's cool.

I love that. So how long after you were in the remix project did you end up getting signed or signing to someone or start putting out singles? Like what order did that happen in? The team slowly started coming together. At that point was my first manager, Mauritius Ruiz, who also told me about the remix project.

Okay. And then he was friends with Byron Wilson, my other manager was over there. Love. And still here. Love that. Yeah, yeah. He works with another artist who, was my doing publishing for a son? Publishing for son who heard my shit and was like, lit.

I want to bring her out. And then flew me and movies out to L.A. for the first time. And I was terrified to sign because you hear so many fucking horror stories. I know, dude, I can only fucking imagine. Yeah, and so I was terrified of contracts, and I was terrified of, it's so funny, because you dream of getting signed when you're a kid, and then when it's, you're at the precipice of it, you realize how much is at stake. So I was hell of nervous, but it was great because Jermai was really patient and, like,

months, months of me being like, I don't know, I don't know if I want to do this. And they, he just, he like went out on a limb for me, like made BMG still fork up money for me and sent me to a writing camp in Sweden. while you're not signed to the company when the company is willing to invest in you regardless is them trying to be like, yo, we really believe in you. And I didn't have anything,

I didn't have much out as an artist, anything to merit investment was strictly based off of someone seeing potential. So it was him seeing potential and willing to risk it. And then I went to Sweden and then wrote a bunch of songs because it was a songwriting camp for bigger artists.

Met these two producers there. First of all, I was really depressed and drinking a lot. So these guys helped me out because they were like, we love you. We want to pay for you to stay on our dollar. So the writing camp was paid for by BMG. The extra week, it was the two producers being like, we want you to stay, we'll pay for it.

We can work on whatever you want. You can write for others. You can write for yourself. We just have faith in you. And I was like, okay. And so I stayed, and then that week I ended up writing figures. No way. That's fucking crazy.

Me finding out the lore behind one of my favorite songs ever. Love that. There was a lot of whiskey involved. Okay, so I do want to ask you about, like, the writing process as a whole and, like, how does that work for you? Because I think past, like, I'm obviously, like, I love a beautiful song, but I love lyrics. Like, I'm a very lyric-heavy person. Like, that's, like, how I love songs. No shit.

I feel like your lyrics are unbelievable. Thank you. So I'm curious, like, how your process goes. Like, how do you typically, like, do you write when you feel inspired, or do you kind of, like, brain dump, or do you come back, revisit, that kind of stuff? like what does that look like for you? I hate fighting for it. I hate like when I have to search for it. Yeah.

It doesn't feel natural. And usually in my life like I get knee jerk when I'm really, really emotional, it'll just pour out. Yeah. Like vomit. And the benefit of my working process is that for me it's more quantity based. And then I sort out the quality. Oh, okay.

Yeah. So I'll be in the studio. for like full day and like make like five songs and not all five are good like four of them might be shit and one of them is worth polishing and then I'll take that one and invest mind you like that's I know there's people that there's much more successful people that will devote five hours to the one but I have to do it after because I hate committing and then four hours in I'm like this is yeah you find out you can't save it yeah yeah you can't save it yeah this one's dead yeah I prefer that but then but then the downside of that is then when it comes time to make an album

it's such a shitty process because there's so many dead songs on the floor that that you just kind of got to say goodbye to or you put them on a shelf and you say maybe later when the time's right or you give them to other artists yeah yeah how has that been for you prefer do you like writing for others too a lot of my friends who are musicians too they they really love writing for other people yeah who Megan trainer oh I love me we love an M train around here yeah yeah she's been writing for other people she's been writing for other people yeah she's great yeah she was one of the early supporters too yeah she showed Love matter.

I love her. But she's also, she's got real, like, ethnic in her when it comes to her, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, her vocalism. Like, her vocalization is just, like, the way she sings, she's very harmony forward and shit. And I feel like that's very common amongst minorities. Like, we do love a good harmony. Yeah. So I think that's beautiful and amazing.

And I also think it's really admirable that you're so committed to the craft of, like, I'm just going to write as many as I can, and then I'm going to be very selective about which ones I pick. does that process typically take you a long time? Do you sometimes sit with two and you're like, oh, one of these is good, one of these could be good too. Yeah, I hate it. Is that way you kind of shelved them too sometimes? Yeah, or like shelf them or, I mean, I don't,

I don't know, it's just hard. It's like, it's like choosing between chocolate cake and funnel cake. Like I love both sometimes, you know. And I might like one later. Yeah, yeah. I might be in the different mood another time. Yeah. Have you ever written one that you're like, this is too personal?

I can't, I can't release that. Do you write that way? everything's about my life yeah but i've always been real uh forthright with my shit yeah i've always been forthright with it so i've never really been like the one time that i thought about that i second guessed it and that i had to like talk to my family prior to it coming out so they didn't trip out was gatekeeper and that was for other reasons yeah like you know it wasn't so much me concerned about how how anyone involved would feel but more so about my my parents being like what?

What happened when? Yeah, like you're like, I just an FYI before you hear it. Yeah, the worst case scenario didn't happen, but this is what happened. Yeah. Well, and when did you feel like you actually like, man, like I think I'm kind of like doing this. Like I think I could really do this for real. Like where you feel like you made it?

I remember the specific, I was at, because I remember I used to cross the border all the time because I lived in Florida at one point. I was bartending there and still trying to make it happen in Toronto and I had built a bit of a beautiful musical community in Toronto. So it felt like swimming in the deep end for hours in Florida sometimes trying to get, trying to get make headway. Yeah. So I would go back and forth a lot.

And then the remix project happened and I begged my bar manager to let me back home to audition and shit. So anyways, it was a lot of back and forth. And even when I was at remix, I was lucky that I was living off tips that I had made while I was bartending and being bottle service girl. There was, I had so many jobs. Like, I was a personal trainer. I was a receptionist at a gym. I, like, taught Zumba.

I was a lot. Yeah. Love that. A lot. I love a Zumba. Yo. You know who loves Zumba? White women.

They love Zumba. They love Zumba. You know what more power to you, Queen? Yeah. Happy for you. So I used to always just, I'd like alternate between whatever the fuck I told them. But often I would just be like a personal trainer, sometimes bartender. But the more you tell them, the more they fucking ask.

So sometimes I would just leave it there, right? Yeah. And then one time I went and the guy was like, what do you do? And I was like, I'm a musician. I'm a musician. Like I was able to, it was,

it was, it was the first time that I wasn't working like a double, like multiple, multiple titles. It was the first time that I was like, oh, this is my,

this is my only source of income. Yeah. It was great. That's fucking awesome. Yeah, it was like, the guy was probably like, okay. He was, oh, aren't we all?

Me too. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes I have a very different reaction when I tell people what I do for a living. It's rare that people don't know sometimes, but when I tell them now, like, one time I got asked, they're like,

how would you describe what you do to old people? Like, well, they didn't say old people. I said old people. And I was like, well, old people, if they ask me, I just go, honestly, I, because I've said I make videos on the internet and old people immediately think porn. Old people immediately think of.

Yeah, yeah. And now looking back, I think like for rentals that I got denied of, and I was like, hmm. I think about it. Maybe it's the way I said it. I don't know. But I tell people like, honestly, I make fun of awful men on the internet.

Yeah. And then they go, they pay you to do that? That's a great tagline. Yeah. And then I go, yep. And then they go, all right, they just kind of give up. Like, they have no further questions. They're like, okay.

Yeah. And I think it's funny too because sometimes, like, I've told before, like my grandpa, he still doesn't watch me. He tells me often he doesn't watch me. And he does have a TikTok. So love that. And he's just always like, And I need that kind of energy in my life. Yeah, it's grounding.

I think, yeah, I need a humbling every now and now. Yeah, yeah. And also, too, I will say a way that made me feel like I was actually doing something with this was getting to care of, or getting to take care of my family. Oof. And I feel like you can relate to that too. 100%. You seem very family-oriented.

Yeah, I remember the first check I ever made off of, like, a really shitty publishing situation, like the first time I ever sold a song before Jermai was involved. Yeah. was a song Rainer Camp of Toronto for a Netflix show for some kids show on Netflix. What? No, family channel. Yeah, it was something like that. And it was $250.

And I was exactly. I was like, yes. And I went home and it was the first time I showed my folks a check for music. And they were like, huh? And then I bought groceries and they were like, huh. And it was just, it was great. It's so funny to have those little bookmarks. Right.

And you never forget them either, especially when you grew up with nothing. Like I the first check I ever got I think was like 75 bucks and it was for like something fucking stupid. I don't even remember. And I remember when I got it, I was like, oh my God. And I was unemployed at the time. So that was a million dollars to me. I was like, yes. I'm going to hold on to this forever.

I'm going to hold on to this so desperately. But I think that's fucking awesome. And I love that your family, how supportive was your family of you as a vocalist? Like, do they know you could sing? I mean, I sang all the time. Yeah. I would like do shows for my family. I'd never shut up in the shower and outside the shower.

It was a lot. Love. But they were worried. Yeah. And my brother's like, a scientist, a very smart man, works at university. Like he's, he's, we're starkly different. Your brother's a scientist? Yeah.

Yeah. And teaches and stuff too. So it's cool. It's cool. But then I came along and I, to say I hate school is like, kind. You know? It's putting it like gently. Lightly.

Yeah. And it's just never been for me. Institutions, it's just never been for me. Yeah. And the first time. I'm actually there's one teacher in my life that I like always acknowledge and say thank you to I like gave her a shout out in my poetry book because it was the only time I ever got to call home a positive call home from a teacher was her and she called so sweet she didn't know until I told her why it was so impactful is because my house we only spoke Spanish my parents would help me with homework but like mainly with like things that were universal like math and like you know what I mean but English not really because we don't You know it's not the element. Yeah.

And so the fact that she called to be like, yo, your daughter's skilled, because we're doing poetry and she noticed it, and she was like, your daughter's skilled. And it meant so much because they wouldn't, they wouldn't have noticed that at home. Yeah. They wouldn't have known that, you know?

And if I were to tell, they'd be like, okay. Let's focus on math. Let's focus on math. Yeah. So it was sweet that she was able to vocalize that and have it be heard. Yeah.

But they were nervous. They were nervous. So the first time I started making money, I know they were like, okay, great. And my mom's so sweet. My mom's like, my mom's like the neighborhood mom. You know, even on the tour, like the tour bus, everyone calls her mom. Yeah. She's that.

My mom too. It's the best. But I say that to like preface this story because she, she one day hit me and she like, crazy. She wanted to apologize for something she said to me when I was like 24. And I was at it. I was like out grinding. grinding like I've never been

the hustle in me is different the dog in me is different and it's just I've always been that way yeah and she saw how hard I was working but she saw that I wasn't really I wasn't getting reaping any fruits yet and she says that she was like honey like meha listen like maybe this isn't for you

like maybe maybe it's not God's plan like she's very spiritual too so maybe she was like maybe you have to be open to something else and I was like okay I'm like give me another year I'm like I'm gonna give it another year and we'll see how it goes and then that year shit started fucking popping off and she and the craziest thing is that she said this to me and I'm and she looked so serious and so like it was it was something that weighed on her and I was like mom I don't even

remember yeah I don't even remember that's how that's how so much support and love and like presence and kindness she's always just offered me that it didn't even it didn't even make a sound yeah like I didn't even retain it yeah especially because of the way she told you too It's just out of love. Out of love. And like care. Like she wants to make sure you're good and you're taking care of. Exactly.

So it wasn't because she thought you couldn't do it. It's because she's like sometimes the world works against people like us. Yeah. And maybe this isn't in the stars for you. But I think you putting a timeline on it is so fucking real too. Because when I started doing this for a living, I like really didn't see much in it at first. I was kind of like, well, I'm like a hundred in TikTok here. So I doubt like I can be a TikToker jokes on me.

But I was like, literally like I don't know about that and then when it started really like building I was unemployed at the time because I'd gotten fucking fired before I started. Oh you've been fired too perfect. Hell yeah girl yeah you know what's funny is like when I look back I've been fired more than once I thought I only been fired once but like the other time was when I the one time I was a server in college that's one of the worst jobs in the world like waiters waiters waitresses like God's soldiers for real like and I remember after like working there for like two weeks I was like yeah I got to find another job like I'm not nearly like what's the word because I'm not rude

but like I don't have the politeness in me to eat shit for very long so I was like yeah you're bandwidth like no yeah I was like given my tongue yeah I need to get out of this fucking job like and the guy that when my manager fired me it was actually kind of fucked up because he had me trained my replacement which I didn't know he was my replacement and my replacement kept leaving in the middle of the shift to go smoke meth in the bathroom. So, and that's not, and that's not hyperbole. I'm being dead serious. Like I, I, at one point followed him and I heard him like, and then it was going like that, fucking breaking bad in the bathroom. I said, oh, and so I'm covering all his tables. And then my manager's like, oh, let's talk after the shift. And I'm like,

he wants to hear about the meth head. Okay. So as we're walking out, I go, bad news, think he's on meth. And then he goes, stop right there. So we're letting you go. and I go oh well and I didn't even get to the meth didn't even get to tell him um bummer and I remember he just told me like you don't you're not taking your waitressing job serious like if you want to move up in the restaurant business I said pause I use this money to buy beer like fuck you mean move up in the restaurant business girl what are you talking about like I'm not trying to be a restaurant tour I'm not fucking car me I'm here to get fucked up money like that's when I need. I would literally leave work and I would take the bus home. I would walk across the street and I would go and I

would buy like a 32 pack like two 32 packs. Mind you do as I say, not as I do. I was underage at the time but I was using my sister's ID. So I was like yeah, I'm 5-4. No for sure. That's me. 5-4-112. Yeah, that's me, King. And I would buy two 32 packs and I would stop on like the third stop was my friend's house. Get off. Go get fucked up. That's what I was doing the waitressing job for. And he wanted you to take it Yeah, he wanted me to move up in the business. I'm good. But he fired me right then and there. And then the meth head replaced me.

I remember like two days later, he called me and was like, oh, are you not coming in for your shift? And I go, what? Didn't you fire me two days ago? And he goes, no, I put you on call. And I go, that's not what you said when you fired me. That's not. Oh, he needed you.

He got caught between a rock and a harp, he's trying to double. Not the back pedal. Right. How dare he? My girlfriend, who was waitressing at the time there too, she told me the realty and she told me that the meth head was working my shift and then left in the middle of it and they couldn't find him. And then when they did find him, he was sitting in the freezer eating a dessert. Like he was plating a dessert for a table instead decided to sit down and eat it.

So he was in the freezer doing that. And like the one cardinal rule I remember this at that restaurant was you could not eat the desserts. I don't know what it was about the dessert, but they were like, don't you fucking dare touch the desserts. And they weren't even that good in my opinion. but he was sitting there just eating it like he was just at home he's just sitting there like and they're like hey um so then he just called me and started talking to me like he never fucking fired me and i was like by the way he's on meth click no way yeah i was like well i guess i'm hanging up my apron for good i guess waitressine's not in my future that's not in god's plan for me

is to be a waitress that's funny what's the worst job you've had sounds like you've had a million uh the worst for whatever reason my boyfriend was a personal trainer for a long time No shit. Yeah. Fuck. And that one's crazy too. What's that? It's like Canadian Publix.

Oh, okay. So a grocery store? Mm-hmm. Were you just like cashier? Or the cashier. Why was that one so terrible? Because it was just so monotonous, man. And I tried to make the best of it.

Like, I would just, like, write songs on receipts and shit. Mm-hmm. But I, like, I've been fired more than twice, more than three times. More than four. Really? Yeah. Just because? Just.

What's the story? you tell yourself i tell myself i was just too funny for that job clearly oh my god clearly i was just far too entertaining and they can't handle it so i was too honest yeah yeah i was too honest to like upper level management or co-workers everybody everybody everyone's getting hit sorry everyone's doing it sorry nobody's safe man nobody would you be honest about like like okay so the so the so the one i had danced like three times a week and it was in it was far as fuck So I had those days like blocked off and then it got canceled or something. And so then I could have gone into work, but I was like, fuck that I'm not coming in.

The fuck. So I didn't. But then I got hungry. And let me like, when you're that young, your frontal lobe is not developed. So you don't make the smartest decision. So I didn't make a smart decision. And then it was the closest door to my house. I was like, fuck it.

I'm going. You're crazy, dude. Calling out of work and showing up at work. But as a patron. Yeah. But I was like, how can I get in? and out quick and I was like I know Roller blades

Roller blades will get me in and out of there quick Like that way no one will seem me I'm dead ass I'm dead ass I'm dead ass I was like 16 so I was like fucking rollerblades Got some snacks like went to like the quick The quick cashier Anyways I got a call later that night

And it was the boss and she was like It doesn't really seem like you want to work here And I was like you're right She was like well I don't Obviously Yeah she was like And then that was the end of that job Yeah I would have fired you too

I'll be honest That's fair I saw you, if I saw you coming out on a day off and your enroller blades, you're fired. Sorry. Yeah. No, that's fair. Sorry. Clearly you think I'm a joke and this joke, which I don't blame you for, especially at 16. Like, when I was working at the restaurant, I think I was like, probably like 19, 20. And I remember like, I didn't take that shit serious either. I mean, I was good at my job, but it's also like, it's a job. You know what I mean? It's not. And I remember too, the reason why he fired me was because he said like I wasn't taking it seriously obviously and it's because he was trying

to convince me to stay there and continue wagressing through the holiday which was like I'm not yeah he's like you can dying to do it he's like well I have a couple shifts on like Christmas Eve and stuff and I was like Christmas Eve yeah yeah yeah no girl I will not be here on Christmas Eve what the fuck I was like oh no I'm going home like for school and I had another job too at the time and so he was like you have to take more shifts if you want to take this seriously. I'm like, when I got hired, I told you I can work Monday, Wednesday, Fridays. I told you that.

And you said yes. And now you're trying to pressure me into taking more shifts and I can't. So I was like, I literally just can't. And I had a full class load and everything too. You're in school too. Fuck. Yeah, I was like, I was taking like 24 credits and I had two jobs.

So I was like, and I was taking the bus. Give me a break. Yeah. And when I went, it was like a nighttime restaurant. So it would open at like, I think first dine in would be like 6 p.m. But I would have to go in at three.

And I would have to go in at three. And I would have to build the salad bar. Like prep, yeah. Prep wouldn't do all the prep and stuff. But I was doing it by my fucking self. And I would have to carry these two big ass buckets of like ice that would, I would go to the freezer far as hell, carry both of them back at least six times to fill that whole thing. That was the worst job? Yeah, that was one of the worst jobs I ever had.

Let me think. I really had to think. I mean, he used to babysit all the time too. I used to babysit too. And I didn't mind that job. But one time I babysit a kid that was so awful that I was like, yeah, I can't do this shit anymore. What did you do? he just would not stop crying.

And he was a baby. He was probably like two, one or two. And he had an older brother that my sister was like kind of watching him because he was around the same image as my brother. And I was holding the baby. I couldn't put him down. I couldn't lay him down. I couldn't feed it.

Scream cried for 12 hours straight. Like, and every time I sat down, it would get louder. So I just had to keep walking in circles. And it was horrifying. And he was allergic to everything. The mom left and goes, by the way, he's allergic to wool and peanuts and this and that and also this and also that but there's an epipen right there have a nice night hey okay have a nice night and she left I know yeah and then I was like

this is the worst job in the world I don't know customer service is not for the week though it's not for the week like at all I don't know how people do it especially like baristas or anything like that it's a lot what oh my god they're oh it's just it's that was the worst one But then like, it's both ways. It's when you work with idiot. It's when you work with idiots, bro. It's when you work with idiots. You're like, is everyone the dumbest person alive?

Or am I tripping? Or is it me? It's so dumb that you start to question yourself. It's sometimes like, what the fuck? I feel that. Yeah. Sometimes it's that wild. But oh my God, I had this one lady.

With this job I loved. I worked and I was like 14 to 18, which is like, it's like a water park? It's a water park. Yeah, in Toronto. Lit, lit place. And I got it. I think I had just turned 14. I'm 13, 14.

That's young as hell. Young as hell. I don't know. I was at it. And you know what? Responsible for people's lives. Love that. No, no, no.

I'm just kidding. I was the cashier at the water park. Okay, nice. I was working at like the pizza pizza and like mainly there was a funnel cake next to the pizza and I get free funnel cakes. Free access to the water park and free funnel cakes. I was like perfect. I love here.

And the managers love me off. Shout out Eric. Shout out Brian. They were so great to me. I love that. We stayed friends. When I started cheerleading for the CFL, which is like the Canadian NFL. I know about the CFL, girl.

I'd give them tickets and shit. They'd come. So we stayed friends even after. Oh, I love that. Yeah, they're great. Once I was there, I think I was like the second year working there. So I was like 15, I think. And this fucking lady.

This fucking lady. I was at, I was, oh, my God. I was working. And she's with her fucking, like, children that were like fucking yapping. And she's trying to control them, but also order. I get it. You're stressed. Whatever.

Yeah. She's ordering some shit. And she's like, yeah, this, this, this. And I was like, okay. And then she takes her money and she throws it. Oh. Yeah, she throws it. At you?

At me. Like, not at, but like on the, towards me. Yeah. But like, if I was closer, it would hit me, but it hit the counter. Yeah. And I look at the money and I'm like, do this bitch is throw money in me? And I look up for her and I'm like, and I'm trying to hold it in. Yeah.

Oh, I take the money. I take the change and I feel it happening. And I'm like, don't do it. Yeah, right. There's no stopping this. This is like a train. This is done. So I take the change and I'm like, and I throw it back because she threw it at me and I'm

15 and petty. Like, hello. Yeah. So I throw it back to her. This lady looks up and she's like, sees red, starts going off. And I'm like, see red start going off. Now we're arguing at each other over the counter. And then she starts climbing on the counter.

Oh. And I'm like, she's arguing down at me. And I'm like, I'm popping off to him like this, fuck the rule, whatever. everyone's yelling and she's come she's significantly bigger than me okay significantly bigger than me i have to say this for to to justify what's about to happen next she was significantly bigger than me so i back up and i'm like oh this fucking lady's about to fucking like wrestling me what the fuck is it calling me like you know like from the top row the top rope yeah i'm like say this lady's about so i reached back because this is that the i was working the funnel cake spot that day because you could

switch so the little the little friar is right here with the frying thing nice because she was a she was coming at me don't who this this is self-defense she's all and based off the advice from my lawyer this is what happened next anyways okay so i grabbed the thing and i and i take it out and then she jumps down and then everyone was able to stop it before it escalated okay well then they all pulled her back and then they pulled me back and then they got her over the counter and the craziest thing was watching her carrying on like nothing she grabbed her fucking fun okay and and carried on with her kids. Like, left.

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, anyways. Yeah. And now there's like, it's crazy. And there's oil and shit on the floor and I'm like shaking because I thought I was

about to have to like fucking defend the shit out of myself. Because she was like over a foot bigger than me, man. And like there was just, I had no choice. Yeah. I had no choice. And so my back was against the wall. My back was against the wall. And then and then the managers come out and they're like, Jesse, what the fuck?

And I'm like, I had no choice. My back was against the wall. And they're like, oh, come, like, I can't believe this. Like, I've been working there for a year. They're like, you're such a good employee. Like, what the hell? I've been friends with people there. Like, people love me off.

I was a favorite. And it was great. And they're just, like, disappointed. And they're walking me to their office. They're like, come on. And they, like, take me to the back office. And they're like, we can't believe. And they're like, so what happened?

That's how. I'm going to give her a stern talking to. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. And then I sat in there and they're cackling when I tell them this story. and they're like okay well like they're like just take the day come back tomorrow and i was like all right cool and they came back well that's good that you had supportive managers that's rare especially in customer service yeah those guys were fucking great i love them they were they were they were really really cool and i worked with good people at that spot for four years that's why i stayed for four years

damn that is a long-ass time but that's good though yeah that's good though because then you have a like a good job but you also are surrounded by people who like support you and care about you yeah it's like when they don't care about your fucking livelihood when you're working for them yeah they're the worst manager you're the worst manager was in the world. The worst. Yeah, and I even, I was thinking about, like, too, like, what's another terrible job I've had? But one of them was being a character.

Like, I was right out of college. I was, I was fucking, I say this very loosely, but I was, like, dressing as Moana and being hired for birthday parties. I don't know what you call that, like a character person. I figured lean into a skid, you know. Everyone was like, you know who you look like? Yeah, I know Moana, because I'm the first brown bitch you've ever seen. That's not Mexican, right?

I'll be the biggest Mexican alive. And so I was like, sure, why not? because I don't want to get a real job, so I guess I'll, like, cosplay. And can I sing? No, not even a little bit. So my thing was just more so dancing. I was like, let's teach the kids of Hula. That's one of the worst jobs I've ever had because, and not because of the children.

Honestly, the kids are like wonderful. Like, they're so sweet and they think you're really her. And that's like, you know, stupid kids. I'm not her. She doesn't exist. No, but they were fantastic. And the moms were so sweet too. It was dads.

like dads were fucking creepy and I don't you've seen me on TikTok I don't have it in me I did two birthday parties quit can't do it anymore fucking sorry and like the way that grown ass men like when I say grown grown men like in their

40s 50 60s they're with their wives and their children there's no there's no they like wait till you're alone and then they'll make suggestive jokes while you're talking to children like it's fucking disgusting I can't even imagine how it happens when they're like when they look good because like to be fair my costume wasn't that

great i'll be honest so i barely look like her for being honest so i can't even imagine and also she's supposed to be a child like she's supposed to be a child so and i had um one dad like the first party i ever worked uh the kids were so sweet and so kind and like they were so excited and i was like talking to all of them and i remember that one boy was with he was like he was like my dad wants to ask you a question and I was like okay where is he and then he says he keeps making suggestive jokes about like the oar that I had and like it's like pissing me off it's getting me more mad as I'm getting mad again thinking about like reliving the memory but he was like what if I what if I wanted to call you Moana like what if I wanted to call you like what kind of not what's your what number would you give me and then he had his kid ask me twice and then I go and then he goes I said call me And then he goes, yeah, like, I think on the cell phone. I have no clue, maybe. Either way, I know he had a wedding ring on, so, you know.

And then he's like, how would I go? When he sent his son to me and he was like, oh, like, my dad wants to know, like, how would he get old of you? Like on the cell phone, I go, cell phone. I don't know what those are. I live on an island. Anyways, time to go, guys. Let's go learn up. Like, I just kept making shit up to try and, like, deflect them.

But to send your child to me, you're a fucking sicko. When you have your wedding ring on. Yeah, girl. Like, I was literally, when I was. was watching it unfold. I was like, oh yeah, this isn't the job for me either. Unless you guys want to watch Wana get active, like with these. Yeah, no. I'm going to ruin the fucking party for everyone if one more dad talks to me. I want to make this a very memorable children's birthday for everybody involved, including your child. And I remember the last party I worked, I had just

started dating my now fiancee. And I had told him, like, that I had a party to do. And I was like telling him how men are so fucking weird and creepy and so he came with me and then was like standing next to me the entire like hovering around me like that like a fucking rumba and i was like see he shouldn't have to do that in order for men to like respect not be fucking weird like hey time in place like we're not at a fucking strip club this is a lawn of your like wife's house like this it's just not the time or place so that's probably one of the worst jobs i've ever had other than serving I'm trying to think I don't have I haven't had I've had a lot of jobs but they're I feel like I've always been kind of what-evs about them did you ever work like nine to five corporate yeah

well the the I was in sales when I was at the gym I worked at different things I started as reception and then I got promoted to sales and then how'd you like that I got fired that's another one yeah it's another one but that one was again it was just because I was too I swear to God it's every and when I think about it's too honest like I'm not going to say the name of it. It was just. I've never even heard of that show. It's good life fitness.

And like, that's so funny. Can I get, whatever. Anyways. So like, so I was 18 or 19. Mm-hmm. Okay, wait, I have to give you some context. Okay, please do. So I started as reception.

Mm-hmm. And I had a manager who was really sweet. She was a really nice girl. Really, really cool. We were homies. Mm-hmm. Loved her. Then she got promoted to something else.

And when she got promoted, all of a sudden, she was a fucking snowman to me. And I was like, why'd be so cold? Weird, strange. I, again, I just, I was like, what's going on? Like, what the hell is this? Because it was, like, very, like, stark and quick. Yeah. And she's like, Jesse, like, you don't understand.

But, like, when you get promoted, like, you just can't really, like, associate with the people that are like, you know, like, Benice, you kind of, like, you just have to, you, you elevate. And I was like, we're working at a gym, bitch. What are you talking about? I was floated. I couldn't believe it. I was like, is this? Are you serious? Yeah.

All right, cool. Cool. I could be a snowman too. No problem. Because I was still trying to show her love. Whatever. After that, I'm like, ice. Ice.

And then she got tight because then she could feel me switch it to. Yeah. And now I wasn't beholding to her because she's not my manager anymore. So she can't ask me like the fuck. All I have to be civil. She was tight. Whatever. Now it's not beefing.

We're civil, but we're not cool like we used to be. Yeah. Then I worked up for a year. And then I get promoted to see. sales then i start working sales when i got promoted all of a sudden the snow melted and she starts trying to like buddy buddy with me again and i was like nah the nah the ship has sailed like i can't retroactive yeah what you're a freak you're weirdo you're dumb and she was kind of butt hurt about

that and i was like whatever it is what it is i was still cool with everybody else there this new girl came on real sweet girl her name was kathy that's who got me into cheerleading into professional cheerleading but she um she was her first week and she was pacing because she was so nervous about getting in trouble because she didn't collect enough leads have you ever worked sales yeah i have worked in sales but not at a gym yeah but you know like leads and yeah you know you have the team they're all about quotas and stuff yeah so she had to we all had to collect a certain amount of leads for the week in this box where people take in names and then it's alleged that someone gets a free membership. Okay.

Right? Gotcha. But what people don't know is that, okay, wait. So she's saying that shit and she's like, oh my God, Jesse, I'm so nervous. It's like 8 p.m. on a fucking Friday. She's like, I got a wedding on Saturday and I'm going to have to take this box to the wedding to collect leads at the wedding. And I was like, no the fuck you don't. No, you don't.

Listen, it's a scam. Like, they're not giving away a free fucking membership at the end of the week. They collect all these boxes together. They might do it at the end of the year. It's not a, you're fine. You don't have to take the box to the wedding and collect leads at the wedding. Yeah. And she's like, okay, she's like on the verge of tears.

I'm trying to calm her down. Yeah. And then my other manager, the old one, walks out of the back closet. Because that's where the gym music was. And I don't know she was changing the music. And she walks out and she had heard everything. And she was like, you know, Jesse? And I was like, you know, you could get fired for slander.

And I was like, okay, bye. And she leaves. And then the next day, I start my day. and they called me into the office and my new manager wasn't in there because usually when you're going to get fired you have you need a manager and a witness yeah my manager knew I was in money

like I was good I was good and she and like after the fact I found out that she refused to be in the room when it happened when it happened she refused to be the witness because she tried to save me but they were like no because she had her because this one had already reported me and then and then head office and it was a whole thing anyways

they fired my ass and I and I went to my aunt and I and cried and cried. I was so disheartened. Yeah. Because I was about to switch into PT. Yeah. Because I had climbed there.

Yeah, yeah. And then that week I went to the competitor across the street and I got a job. Period. And I worked there for like two years. Yeah. What's your time? A Gemini. Yeah.

That was my guess. I thought it was my guess. If it wasn't that, it was a Scorpio in my head. I couldn't especially Scorpio women. Gemini women though? Yeah. I'm a Virgo. Oh, my mom's a very girl.

go. Period. I love that. I'm going to do one more story really quick. Everyone's going to have to hear me app. Sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry. What I was going to say was about your story about getting fired at the gym.

It's very similar to me getting fired at the NFL because I worked at the NFL. Shut up. Before I did this, yeah, girl. What did you do at the NFL? Social media. No way. Yeah, and they hate when I say this and I'm going to say it again because it's my fucking show. One of the reasons they fired me was because they said they couldn't trust that I knew

how to grow a following. Grow a following. Wow. And I was like, oh, turns out I do. No wait. If you were taking my ideas, you guys could have had that. Glad they didn't, though. But when I did get fired, I got fired by my manager who hated me and made sure to tell me often.

Like, it was just like a slow breaking down of me over time. And I was already planning on switching teams. Like, that's what I wanted to do. So, like, the last meeting I had with her, she was berating me in private like she always did. And then I told her, I was like, okay, so like, I would like, to switch teams, I think, at the end of the season. Like, I just don't think this works in this capacity anymore. And I was like, I just, I can't thrive in an environment where someone, like, genuinely

doesn't want to see me succeed. Like, I can't really grow in that kind of environment. And I don't think you're happy either. Maybe it's for the best, like, whatever. I was trying to, like, be very cordial and civil about it. But this was the first time I, like, had really stood up for myself, like, which is shocking for me, personally. And so she was like, well, you know, as soon as I, like, I was.

I said that. It was like a, and I said, and the next time you talk to me, I want there to be someone else in the room. You said that? Yeah, because I told her, I just don't think you're going to talk to me the way you do if someone else is here. And then as soon as I said that shit, she was like, all right, why don't we just take the day? Let's just breathe. Let's just like take a minute. All this shit. And I'm like, all right, but like I've made up my mind, like in my head. And I went home next day, mind you at this time, I live in Lake Elsinore. So that's in like the IE. And I was driving to Culver City for six days out of the week. So I was driving two and a half hours one way and then two and a half hours the other way. So I was driving to fucking Vegas every day. Like that's how much I was committed to

this job. And so then the next day I go into work, it's like a Wednesday. And I'm working. I work all day. Then at 5 p.m. She like slacks me. Hey, can you come to the conference room so we can finish our conversation for me yesterday? And I go, yeah, I take my laptop, go in there because she always, I always like take notes or whatever and I go in there and there's another woman in there so I figure because I told her yeah I figured because I said I don't want to speak to you alone anymore I want to speak to someone else that that's what I figured it was HR I figured that's why she was there so we sat down and then I was like I had my laptop open and I was like sitting there and then no one was really saying anything I was like I'm Drew right and she's like hi I'm so and so I'm with HR and I'm like okay

she goes okay so we're going to be talking about how we are letting you go Like we're going to be terminating your position. Like I had no way of knowing that she was going to do that shit to me. Like I had no fucking way of knowing. Like I was like, oh, let me close that. Because obviously don't need to take notes on that, do I? I was like sitting there and I was like, mm-hmm, just like internalizing it. Yeah.

And processing openly. And I remember thinking like, like as she's talking to me, the lady's talking to my evil manager, not saying anything. She was evil. Her not saying anything. She's just sitting there, like staring at her. and she's looking at me and I'm looking at her. So we're just sitting there and then after she finishes talking, she goes, do you have anything you want to say?

And I go, yeah, if you were going to fire me, you couldn't have done that before I drove here. Like, you guys couldn't have done that before I came here. And then she goes, well, you're not being fired. You're being let go. That's what they kept, they kept correcting me over and over at the burbage, right? Because it's important. And then she's like, well, you know, I think we're just like the HR lady,

I think told the manager like, don't talk. I'm going to talk the whole time. You shouldn't say anything. But I knew she wanted to be there because she wanted to watch me get fired because she felt good about it. Like she was like really feeling good about herself. And so she was like, I go, I don't know. I just feel like you could have mentioned that to me yesterday when we talked for two hours.

I feel like you could have mentioned this part. And then she was like, we've had many talks. That was the one thing she said in that entire meeting. I'll never forget it. Her stupid glasses too. She had glasses not stupid. Silly ass glasses. anyways. And then she says that and I go, as soon as she said that to me, I go, we've never talked

about you finding a way to fire me legally. We never talked about that. And then we're just looking at each other. And then the HR girl goes, I think we're getting off track. I think we need to be focused. I think we need to like, do you have any other questions besides that before I continue? I go, yeah, can she leave? I'd rather be alone. And then she was like, yeah, yeah, no, yeah. And then she just got up and left and that was the last time I ever saw her. Good fucking ridden. but the funny thing is too even after that like my manager at the time like she was so micro-aggressive towards me like constantly and i remember when i lived they had security waiting for me oh they had security waiting for me too which is crazy i know that's standard but it's also nuts because

you could have waited again it was this was five or no it was like four o'clock so i get off at five and you had them wait right there and wanted because she wanted other people to watch me get fired and pack my shit and watch everybody watch me. I'm like, you're evil, dude. You already fucking got me, bitch. You fucking fired me. Like, it's fine. What's funny, though, is because it was so hard for me to work there, one thing I always say, when I look back, I'm like, you know what? When I look back, I should have known something was off because it's really easy for me to make friends. And for some reason there, it was really hard for me to make friends. I was really trying. I was doing my best. I was giving my best jokes all the time. No friendship. I had like two friends there,

but like one of them was a buddy from college and the other one was like an older woman. But all of the other people who worked in the facility, the front door girl, the lady in the bathroom, the security guy, they loved me. And so the security guy, when he was waiting for me, he goes, I'm sorry. And I was like, hey, buddy, kicking me while I'm down. You know what I mean? I know that's really sweet, but it makes me feel bad. But I was like, it's all right. No, it's only fine.

And then they told me. Were you leaping? I, like, yeah. I weeped. I was really proud of myself. for not crying in the meeting because I wanted to, but I was so angry that I didn't. And then as soon as I sat in my 2015 Prius, I started sobbing. And then I went on my Instagram and I deleted every single thing that could have possibly tied me to the NFL at all.

Like I deleted every single, every trace of it. I got rid of all of it. And then I called my mom. She didn't answer. She didn't answer. So then I was like, all right, fine. I'll call my dad. So I called my dad.

And then I told him. And then the first thing he said to me was, congratulations. And I said, I got fucking fired. Yeah, and I told them, I was like, I think I got fired when I was talking to him on the phone. And he was like, congrats. That's so great. And I was like, is it? Doesn't feel like it?

And he goes, you hated that job because like all of them knew. They knew I hated that job. That's a sweet immediate kneejerk response. Right. And it was what I needed. Thankfully, I did cry the whole fucking way home. I cried in that two and a half hour traffic I sat in. I was just sobbing the whole way home.

No, and then not too long. later I started doing this. Yeah. So it's like everything happens for a reason. Everything does, man. You can't ever connect the dots forward, but you can always connect them back. Right. I truly feel like too, I always tell my family this and like everyone around me like the

universe always has my back. Like I was like my ancestors are always looking over me. They're watching over me constantly. And sometimes when I don't listen to them, they have no choice. Yeah. But to shove me off the fucking path. Like if. Those who don't hear must feel.

Right. And me being, me being a Virgo too, I don't deviate. paths often. So like when I have a course, I steady it unless I have a backup plan or another backup plan or another. So I had no backup plan and I wasn't planning on leaving even though I kept saying I would. And so they had to kick me off the path and they Spartan kicked me off that hoe. Shit, sandal to the chest, man. I was like, okay. Oh no, for sure. Yeah, no, fire me. It's okay. No, totally fine. But thankfully they did. And then not too long later, start posting on TikTok. Now look, I'm talking to you. All's well that ends well. I love that. Okay. So,

So I'm going to read one TikTok. We didn't even talk about the topic, but that's just how much we've been king. I love that for us. Okay. So this first one, okay, wait, the topic is society's double standard when it comes to expectations of men and women. What double standard? In dating and the workplace. Well, we did talk about the workplace.

So we were kind of on topic. Anyways. So in this video, a man is interviewing a woman asking about red flags when the women asks him, what's your biggest red flag in a woman? Immediately he says tattoos. If I see a tattoo on her, it's over. because girls that get tattoos are usually more promiscuous. Not going to take a promiscuous girl seriously.

Well, men who say that can never get. It's funny because they call women whores and it's like, well, clearly she's not that good at her job because she won't sleep with you. They're like, slut. Okay. I'll sleep with everyone but you apparently. This one says, never seen a woman that looks better with a tattoo. Tattoes are the most obvious sign of the pursuit of external validation.

also the bright dyed color hair too the more natural the woman looks the more likely she's the one to eye on for long term to eye on for long term and that's yeah until he said that i wasn't on board but it was so well written prolific it's profound honestly yeah do you do you have a lot of tattoos do you have any tattoos i have three i have this one cute i got it with my dad it matches like he's got a little smile of face and then i got my parents right here oh i love that and then i got one on my foot that matches that just between two of my homeboys that's like a little dog that's a long story I'm sure it is it's probably a fun story too your life is crazy yeah I have I have obviously I have this like hand-arm tattoo but the hand tattoos they're so pretty thank you all and all my tattoos are

cultural so all of them are someone tribal I have one down my back too and then I have one on my neck and then one on my side but the one on my side is like a tribal like it's a moon but it has someone tribal inside of it and that one's for our mom like we got sibling tattoos me and my sister and my brother uh because we're she always says i love you to the moon and back so we got that and then one of my neck is for my dad like we all got the same ones too my dad's very first tattoo was like a stick and poke in samua that says 100% someone and it's like tiny as fuck and it's on his like left shoulder blade and it's so funny because he hates that tattoo like he and it's so faded and raised it's awful because he got it when he was like 14,

which was a million years ago. And so my dad hates that tattoo. And then one time when me and my sister were drunk, we were talking about tattoos, and then we were like, what if we got? And Jason goes, what if we got one that said 75% someone?

Because my dad's 100 and more 75. And then I was like, that's hilarious, dude. And that was like two years ago. And then we did it. Like we, my brothers is huge. It's on his shoulder and it's literally in the biggest font

I've ever seen in my life. And then me and Jason have little ones on our neck and I was like that's how you know we're never that serious because we're literally we tattooed a bit on ourselves because we thought it was funny it's good it's great I love a silly ass tattoo I think they're fun yeah and I think like haters that's crazy you can't get a bad bitch of tattoos just say that it'd be a lot faster yeah do you get any hate online I'm sure you do you're a woman existing and you're talented so obviously and you're not white so obviously you have to working against you too yeah

I do, but I've learned to, I've always had thick skin. Me too. It's just, and it's such a gift to have it. Right. It makes you, it just makes you stronger, but also lets you get better. Like, people try to, people try to throw jobs and it's like, yo, you don't even know. That's why I felt so seen watching your videos. Like, the way you cackle is the way I receive them.

I love that. For real, like, bitch, you can't sing. I'll be like, but I'm eating. But I'm eating. Okay. But I'm living off this. Yeah. mad right you're mad right and here's what's even worse suppose you're right and i can't and i'm living off

this you're mad yeah so you're mad either way you're mad either way yeah you're mad no matter what you're mad either way i say that every time men tell me i'm not funny i'm like well one of us is funny yeah yeah so oh we should check tape let's check our record let's check the trophy wall and see i always think that too but i i never i feel the same way you do it's like someone who's doing worse send me in life is never going to give me valid criticism about mine. Especially not my job. No, and if anything, you'll moat, it's like, you'll live, you're, you're, you have no idea the favor that you're doing.

Right. No idea the favor that you're doing to me. Right. Every time that you throw me to negative. Like, the way, period. Alchemy is a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing.

And when you know how to do it, that shit just, you're just fanning a fire, bro. Right. That's all you're doing. So fan me up. Shit. That's funny. I've talked to my friend Teffi about it before. She's very spiritual too.

You love Teffi. Colombiana. Yes. She's so witchy and spiritual. She's my witch mother in training. But she's even told me before and I hold this very true to this day for myself too. She said like, when I tell you the universe and God don't play about me, I would stop fucking with me if I were you.

They don't play about me. That's why I'm like, when you wrong me, I feel bad for you. Whatever's coming for you, it will come. It may take, she may take her time, but just. she will arrive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I always think whenever something happens like that, I always think like this was for a reason and this was on purpose,

for a good reason and on purpose. When I got fired, I struggled to tell myself, but I was telling myself, this is for a reason and this is on purpose, like for a specific reason. And thank God. Yeah. Oh my God, thank God. It's so great to train yourself that way because it's so hard to do it in those moments.

Right. To like advocate for yourself that way. Especially in this industry. Especially in this. Oh my God, especially in this industry. But it serves you so much to train your brain. if you don't naturally have that. I got a lot of that for my parents.

Like my parents just put me in situations where I had to have thick skin. Right. Like, me too. I always tell people when they're like, they try to insult me. I'm like, oh, you guys haven't, you haven't met my mom. So I'd hang out with her. That shit's chill. That's child's play to me, bitch.

You know what I mean? That's level one. Yeah. I was like, damn, is that it? Yeah. Well, no wonder you think I'm so fucking mean. Yeah, my dad could cut. But I'm not me.

I wish, that's the other, whatever. fine. They're not our tribe. It's not mean. It's funny. You don't get it. But that's what I'm saying. You guys don't get it. You don't get it. That's why a lot of times, that's a lot of white people don't like it either. That's why I was like, you need to hang out with more minority people. Your skin will toughen up too. Don't get it. I was like, my family thrives off roasting each other. Like, that's like something fun that we do together. We sit in a circle and we make fun of each other.

And I had to get funny and I had to get funny fast, bitch. What the fuck? I was drowning out there when I was a kid. That's funny. And then what's worse in my family is like if you start taking it a little too personal, like you're like, whatever, whatever. They're like, oh, someone's mad. Are you mad? Double down.

Oh, no joking with her. She's mad. Double down. Can't do it. I was like, the humiliation was eating me alive. I had to get good. Oh, my God. Anyways, to wrap us up.

I know we talked about all kinds of things, but I'm so glad we got to touch on your music in the beginning. Sometimes I get so wrapped up in King, I forget to ask about your artistry. But just to kind of. of dovetail back to the beginning. What would you say is your best piece of advice for any sort of, any aspiring artist in general? Not as, they don't necessarily have to be a vocalist because you're not just a vocalist. Obviously, you're a poet too.

And you're just an artist in general. I feel like you have so much art like to put out into the world that's beautiful and withstanding. So what would you say is your best piece of advice for people who would love to, you know, essentially make a living off of their art or be able to put it out into the world? It can feel faster. Because time is going to pass you by anyway. And so many people get paralyzed by indecision and they fucking like pussyfooted up.

Like they're just, they're scared. And when you really break it down to brass tax, what you're really afraid of is being perceived. And if you're scared about people seeing you, if you really think about it, the people that are seeing you aren't even working on their own shit. Because if they were, they wouldn't even be paying any attention to you and whatever failure might be in front of you or behind you. So it's kind of fucked up. But when you think about it that way, you're like, who the fuck are you to be judging me when you're not even focused on your own shit? So what am I even ultimately scared of? So fuck that.

Let me just focus on my own shit. And if you do fuck up, it's fine. Again, this doesn't come overnight if you're not naturally like this. You train yourself to be that way to, like, try something. If it doesn't work, keep it fucking moving. Try something again. If it doesn't work, keep it fucking moving. And then the more knows you get, if you can keep your enthusiasm up, the hundreds know, my,

be like the one right before the yes that might change your life you know and you and you're not going to get better unless you try like LeBron didn't come out the fucking womb playing like he does you know you have to work at it so that also comes with it but fail faster and learn to objectively criticize yourself and surround yourself with a team because it's impossible to do great things alone right yeah and then tell and then make sure you you you cultivate a culture of um honesty yeah And telling your people, yo, I got thick skin, you need to tell me what I'm fucking up here. I'll get off stage and I'll be like, how'd I do what went left, what went right? So we could like finesse and, you know what I mean?

You're so me. But that shit is so, because that's how you get better. Yeah, totally. Cultivate that sort of culture where everybody can be very forthright with criticisms and apply it to yourself. With love, obviously. It's said with love always. Yeah. But learn to do that.

And then also learn to celebrate the small ones because the universe reflects your level. of gratitude. Period. Yeah, and sometimes we forget, because then we get there and then the little problem that you would have been stressing about when you had no money or when you were just getting started now, you're like, oh, that ain't shit, but it is. Yeah. But it is.

And you have to celebrate, even the small ones. You have to celebrate them. Period. Feel faster. Celebrate shit, gratitude and have thick skin. And if you're going to cry, cry, we'll wrap it up. I love that. I think you're so fucking awesome.

I think you're so incredible and so talented. And I think you're a gift to this world and the industry, especially. And me. Oh my gosh, I got to have you today. So thank you so much. I appreciate you. I think you're just unbelievable. Your lip, period.

God's work. As are you. I don't know what God's work. A little bit of toxicity. And you guys saw that on camera. So you guys got that. But thank you all so much for joining us on this episode of the comment section. Thank you to my amazing guest, Jesse Reyes.

For those of you that maybe were born yesterday and don't follow you, where can everybody find you? XVi-V-E-E-Y-E-Z. um jes s i e r e y e y z everywhere jesse rejes just have a song that came out with r e lennox that's called just like that that's a little friggy diki you go enjoy that love amazing fantastic also i did want to mention really quick your collaborations are insane i think your collaborations are fucking incredible thank you i thought imported was also one of my favorite shout out black that amazing motherfucker i just got a verse from him oh period did you see that in the he sent it in the group chat do you have anything else you want to promote at all Show is that at all?

Yes. I'm going on tour with Janayko next week. Right? Two weeks? December. Front hat of December. Yeah. And then may or may not be working on an album.

Ooh. But I have a long fucking catalog. A big catalog. Yes, she does. It's extensive. And it's fantastic from top to bottom. Not in a weird way. Say that so neutrally.

No bias whatsoever. Thank you all so much for joining us on this episode of the comments. Don't forget new episodes drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms or you can watch the video for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify, which is actually perfect because Jesse Reyes is all over. Spotify.

You can watch this episode. You can listen to her discography. You do it because I said so with love, though. Anyways, thank you again for joining us. Thank you to my amazing guest, Jesse Reyes. I'll see you next week. Bye!