The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - THE ULTIMATE GUIDE TO PISSING OFF MEN Ft. Kyle Prue

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

This week, Drew’s twin flame Kyle Prue joins the show to talk about his upcoming book How To Piss Off Men, and that’s exactly what they do. Drew and Kyle talk lying about your height on a fake ID, Kyle’s favorite specific ways to agitate horrible guys, men who make you read their Wikipedia page, an evil Hozier doppelganger, and so much more. Drew: https://linktr.ee/drewafualo Kyle: IG For sponsorships/partnerships, email [e-mail]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I was like, it's like evil Hozier. Like, he looks like. If Hozier fucking hated women. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If Hocher made the opposite type of music, Hozier's like, I'll crawl across the earth for you. This guy's like, if she steps foot in a club, I'm killing myself. And it's on you.

I'm blaming you. Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your favorite. Everybody knows me. Who cares about me? On to the guest. Today we have the iconic, the hilarious. the legendary Kyle Prue.

Hello, thank you. Thank you for having me. Welcome to the show. First time, long time. I know. Look at us. We're twins. I know.

Literally twin. Yeah. Sometimes I scroll to your videos. I can't tell if it's you or me. I know. We're all Spider-Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got to do one of those, you know what I mean?

To make sure. How are you? I'm doing good. I'm happy to have you. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to maximize our joint sleigh. To really lean into it. Yeah.

There's going to be some alarms going on. on some sections of the internet. I'm counting on it, honestly. This is a code red for them. Honestly, DefCon 3. Yeah, whatever the worst one is. Congress is having an emergency meeting. As we speak.

Yeah. And the president went underground just for the safety of everybody involved. Yeah, he's in that little elevator right now. I can't imagine that we fucking didn't say. Well, first off, obviously, huge fan of you and your work. Huge fan as well. Likewise. I feel like you and I have a very vested interest, a comment.

interest if you will yes a hyper fixation yeah an extreme hyper fixation the two of us a very profitable hyper fixation hey we're all here is what it is but i'm so curious about your your lore before uh ticot so i know you were telling me offline you're originally from florida yeah bummer yeah sorry i'm just kidding it's why like everyone's like you have a vaguely sort of amphibious vibe i'm like that's yeah i'm from well amphibian is the only thing they associate with florida i think i call that a win Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If they talk about the governor, then I'm like, I don't know. You're like, oh, well, actually, I'm not from Florida. But I'm so curious what you were doing before TikTok. Yeah, I've had a very sort of, yeah, strange, you know, rise to whatever this is.

Yeah, I feel the same, honestly. I was like a kid author. I was like a 16 year old, like fantasy author. Really? Yeah, like, I don't know if you've seen that thing going around like a thousand books a year kid. Like, it's this kid who read a thousand books and he's like holding a sign that says I read a thousand books. Yeah. Very much kind of my vibe. Really? Yeah.

Yeah. And so I like put out these fantasy books and I like toured around with them for like a few years. Wow. I went to like every middle school in the country and I was like, you got to learn to read. And they were like, we hate you. They were like, okay. It was like 6.30 a.m. And then I like I was thinking like, okay, I guess I'll just do this.

But I was worried about like going from like being on. a high schooler to just being an adult. Like I was 18, I had never had alcohol. Like I needed, I needed to learn some things. Yeah, totally. And I didn't know where to get it. And so I was like, I'm going to go to college. So I went to college for acting and poetry.

Period. Yeah. Look at you. I wanted to be the most unemployable motherfucker whoever live. I wanted to make it really hard to find a job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It doesn't look great on a resume.

When I told my parents, I picked up a minor. they were like sales and I was like not exactly better actually one step better poetry I was like have you heard of jam it's where they decide to break in the lines you're going to love this all of it's about you by the way yeah and how we grew up but so I like went to school for acting and then I graduated in 2020 best year to graduate uh real open in any profession possibilities endless yeah it was like a month before graduation, they were like, you're good actually. You can just go home. They, like, laminated my diploma and just handed it to me.

They're like, I'll send it to you. Yeah, they were like, don't touch anything on your way out. And so I like went and I like was doing this like this horror movie down in Florida, which was, yeah, awesome to do a pandemic horror movie in Florida. God, I can't even imagine. Yeah, yeah. Was it a really lonely set? I feel like they would call one person at a time. Yeah, yeah, pretty much.

Like, you're, like, wearing a mask in a room and everyone else is in a different room with, like, a monitor. And then you're, like, getting killed. And then they're, like, go home to your empty house again. Then, like, yeah, like, TikTok became just sort of a thing. Like, when I was in college, I was like, I'll either starve to death or I will, it'll work out. Right. And, uh, like most actors. Right.

Like all of them. Yeah. But this was like, yeah, like TikTok just sort of, you know, I feel like everyone says the exact same thing. It just kind of happened. Yeah. Like it's like I posted one video and I you know blew up and and now here I am. Then I got a disorder from it. Now I can't read.

Yeah. So yeah, I like sort of just started like kind of like leaning full scale into content a little bit more and sort of like pairing that with kind of like my acting and writing stuff. And the rest is history. It's rock and roll history. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everything's been awesome since then.

Always will be. Forever. It's cool. Yeah. We're good now. Yeah. That's so interesting. I mean, like, when you started posting on TikTok, because obviously I've been moots for a while.

Right. Obviously, when I first found your content, it was all the how to piss men off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's funny because when people ask me, like, what my video was, it was like, my very first video to ever go viral was me talking about very specific red flags and men. But I honestly think the two of us stitch that same exact video and kind of rose at the same time, which is so funny because we, I mean, obviously it's hard to tell the difference between us physically. Right, right, right. Obviously, it's hard. physically we look so much alike people who are watching this are like that's real game in tennis

who's the host they're so confused yeah i genuinely feel like we both stitched the same video and that was like my first video to ever like really kind of start rolling but i'm curious how you fell into the uh talking about men specifically like yeah before that i was doing um i had been getting death threats from furries uh so i was reviewing those uh so it'd be just like some high school are barking at me and I'd be like that's why furry specifically I've made a bit kick that high I evidently and by the way nothing but respect for you and your people in your culture we made peace long ago okay that's good a treaty's been put in place yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like bark bark bark well I guess it had kind of started in person a little bit um when I like moved to L.A I started

to all these house parties. Yeah. Because I was like, I'm from a place where nobody lives. And now I'm in a place where like everybody's here. It's all happening. Yeah, it's like the LA experience in the beginning. Yeah, like the first few weeks, you're just going to like the worst parties you've ever been to.

With the worst people we've ever met. And they're all like, it's just all men who are just there to talk about themselves to each other. And like I'd be talking to these like LA transplant like film bros. Oh man. like just graduated like out here to you know and like I knew what they wanted from me they all wanted me to be like this is the best idea for a horror movie I've ever heard like you are white jordan peel and and I'm going to be the one to tell you that I don't know if everyone's anyone's

ever said this yeah I'm like oh my god but you're a genius I'm like it's a social commentary but it's scary and you're the first one to to trip upon that um and my mom has always said this thing which is a little a little reductive but uh it was uh women want to feel adored men want to feel important period and it was always this thing where i was like you want me so badly to like make you feel important but i couldn't bring myself to do it because i was like if i give you this yeah you will go ruin all your hinge dates for the rest of your who knows where who you'll terrorize with that If I tell you great idea, you're going to go try this on some poor woman who is just like white knuckling her way through the Los Angeles dating scene. He's going to like recap it like live off it for the next five years.

Yeah, yeah. So I just kind of started just slowly. And experimenting. And it's always through questions. I feel like you never want to hit someone with like a real deal like straight like sniper shot. Yeah. Because if you give them the question, they'll figure out how to. hurt themselves.

Yeah, totally. Do you remember the first one you ever did? The first one I ever did on TikTok, like the first one that really blew up was I said, just tell a man that he seems like he gives off the vibe that when he sleeps, he goes like, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, you sleep like that. If you were a cartoon, and also, I'm not sure you're not. And the video got, the video got like five million views and someone was like, can you give me more of these to use all my friend's boyfriend.

Okay, very good. And I was like, yeah, I got you. What about in person? Do you remember, like, the first time really being like, oh, that works? Yeah. That really works. I, like, I vaguely remember it. But I remember being, like, pretty drunk outside of a bar.

Yeah. And this guy came up to me and my friends. And I was like trying to, like, get in the Uber. Yeah. This like 45 year old guy coming over and he was like, oh, like, you guys went to Michigan and we're like, yeah, yeah. He's like, dude, I love going to Michigan. Like, I love tailgating.

He's like all these college students, you know, like, and like instantly going in a really creepy direction. He's like all the women there. Like trust me, like, they find me really funny. And I like, like, my like drunk brain clicked off and I like clicked into kill mode. And I was like, do you ever wonder if they're laughing at you? And he just like gasped. And I like got sober real quick. And I was like, where am I?

Like that was kind of the moment where I was like, oh, this is something. Yeah, there's something here for you. Yeah. A calling, if you will. My friends were very much trying to save it. They were like, oh, no, no, no, no. And I was like, oh, he's just like that. I was like, I was like, women your age don't like you?

Like, they were like, in the Uber, Kyle. I was like, I want to talk to him. Yeah, and then, you know, I kind of started to move it on to the internet. Yeah, sort of, you know, power to the people. You're giving back. Yeah, yeah. Coming from you, I think it's, it's really extra powerful. Like, when they see that kind of content coming from someone like you.

Because obviously, for me, the initial Neanderthal reaction is like, whoa, of course you're gonna fucking say that because you're emphatically bitch. Yeah. But when they hear from you, they're like, how could you? They're like, you had all the keys of the kingdom and you fucking...

You churned on us. Benedict Arnold. They're like, all this privilege and for what? Like, it's so funny. Like, I think a big part of it too has been like, if someone says something to me that like, like, I'm like, oh, like,

I've gone to a very academic place with it. Yeah. Where someone's like, you don't have a peanut allergy? And I'm like, no, they're like, you do really give that vibe. And I'm like, you really give the vibe of someone with a peanut allergy?

That hurt my feelings. So they'll definitely hurt a lesser man's feelings. Right, totally. I'm like, I consider myself healed, however, out. You're absolutely correct. Like, I think a lot of the talking points, you know, like, whatever you want to call them, the in cells, the, you know, they have like a script

that they practice all day long on Twitch. And they're like, they're just drilling bench Shapiro videos. And when someone like me does it, they're like, you're white knighting. You're a pick me. And I'm like, man. And I get picked and you don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've been loved. Unfortunately. For you. I think your series has been my favorite because they, I love a niche joke. Yeah. Like I love a very specific insult. I think those are. And I've said that.

I'm sure you've said this or gotten these two because sometimes when I like make fun of dudes or whatever. they'll be like, oh, I can't believe you didn't mention this or I can't believe you didn't mention this. And they're just very obvious physical characteristics that they have. And I was like, see, you guys are thinking short term. You got to think long game. And you know about that. Yeah. I was like, you've got to bury your so far deep in that psyche that he's going to think about me for the rest of his life in a horrible way. He's not going to have that same hairline in a few months. Exactly. If that's what you're going, like, he's aware. He lives in his body.

Yeah. He looks at it more than anybody. Yeah. He wakes up as him. Yeah, and I've even told people, I'm like, sometimes I'll say that people's hair is thinning, and I can't really tell if it is, but they get mad immediately. Yeah. And that's because he's thinking about it all the time. And I said, and now I'm living up here forever. The greatest insult possible is the one that you drop, and it makes someone realize something they were not aware of it.

Because, you know, like, people spend all day, like, fortifying themselves. They're like, she's going to talk about my jawline, you know. And then you're like very, very slender wrists. And he's like, oh my God. Fuck. Yeah, I think one of the meanest ones I've ever said to someone that like was a big video for me at the time was like, do you know a lot about steroids? I don't know. You tell me.

About performance enhancing drugs. Yeah. But a lot of gym. My performance has not been enhanced much at all. I don't know if you could tell about my build. One pull up for now. for now you know a lot of gymbros

when they abuse that shit they get what's called that guy know you know and so like some people are born with it that's not what I'm talking about anyways it was like this horrible Jimbrough

and he made this awful fucking video and so I stitched it and he had a lot of like obviously shirtless vids of course got to show off the bod and he had gyno like bad

yeah like really bad but his nipples like his ariola's just huge right and so like on top of having gyno which makes it look even bigger and so i said like what's going on with your nipples dude like was like they look raw and i literally was like village wet nurse like what do you what's going on with you that insult like i'm not kidding it spun him out so fucking bad he like made

like 15 videos about me like he was like i've always been insecure you know what like talking about someone's nipple size is not fucking cool he's going to college yeah he went back to school yeah he went back to school. Yeah, yeah. Like, I fucked him up so bad. He became a monk. He started working on himself. That fucked him up so bad and it's because he had never been told that before.

Yeah. But he had always thought about that. Yeah. And so I was like, like you said, like the one, it's like, it either develops a new insecurity that they've never had or it brings up something that he thought nobody could notice, but he hates. And it's always this thing. They're always like, I feel like, like talk shit get hit is like a, like a law of the

universe online. You know what I mean? And so, like, all these. guys are always like doing all this like you know like misogynistic like horrible like problematic ranting yeah and then you come in with something just very tactical clear uh and they're like this is not how we do things here on my corner of the internet all of a sudden yeah yeah we got a moral check everybody swat people and we we attack minorities yeah it doesn't it's not like an uphill system yeah they're like that's not really how it's worked for me in the past

Yeah, yeah. Which is like, yeah, no shit. People at my high school loved this. Love my whole thing. They literally told me that I was so funny. I could do it for a living. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yeah.

And here I am on the national stage. It's like the rules just change. Like as soon as you step in, the rules change. Yeah. My, like, favorite one that I have forever is, um, because I wanted to like think of like an actual, like an actionable solution to something. Yeah. I said if you get cat called and you feel safe enough to do so, yeah, but I'm sorry, I don't have any change. Yeah, literally. Um, because to build up in your mind, I assume never done it. Not much of an interactions person. But to build someone to something up in your mind, you're like, I'm a cool guy. Yeah. Like I can hit on a person who's like moving. Who's like in, in route. A moving target. Yeah. Yeah. And you say to them like, I'm sorry I don't have like, like you are of course begging for money. And the switch that they have to make is like, it's all the distance of self-perception that exists.

Like top to bottom. Yeah, totally. I've made videos in the past telling people how to like ward that off just for safety reasons. Like I used to like freak the fuck out or be really mean. And like obviously people are insane so you can't really trust that you'll be safe, especially if you're alone. So I've told people before like just to say what like three times like just really loud. Like what? Like you didn't hear them and then make them keep repeating it.

Right. Like when they say the most graphic shit and then the more times they say it, the less confident. Like they start to do a cost benefit. Yeah. They're kind of like, oh, well, now that everyone's looking at me and everyone can hear me, I don't really want to say it anymore, which is like almost like a smoke bomb and you could just run away. Yeah. But on that video I posted, someone actually commented and said something I love to do is if they approach me, especially if they're in groups. Yeah.

But even if they're alone, she's like, I'll look at them and I'll be like, you've had a lot of women die in your friends. family, huh? And I was like, that's so funny. That's a great one. That's, get witchy immediately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a lot of women die in your family, huh? I can tell. Yeah. She said she does that and I was like, he's like, he's like, it wasn't my fault. You're like, okay. She's like the color that drains from their face immediately. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, oh, yeah, yeah, start speaking in tongues. Yeah, yeah. Levitating. You're like, uh, Aries, huh? I was like, that's a good one. Yeah. I feel like your series is so helpful, too, because there are, it's almost like a, like you said, it's very tactical. But it's also a way for women to like stand up for themselves that, especially women who don't feel confrontational.

Totally. Or like they don't feel like strong enough to be like, I don't like when you talk to me like that or whatever. You know what I mean? I think the methods that you use are really helpful for people in those situations. That's kind of the goal. You know, I think like, I remember like, yeah, like talking to somebody like at like an event and shooting. like I like really appreciate the work you done. I was like, oh, yeah.

And I was like, oh, yeah. And I was like, uh, and she was like, no, like I like, this helps me. Yeah. Like have something in my back pocket. Totally. Because I think like men are going home and like running their scripts. You know what I mean? Like they're, they're drilling.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. They're like, they're listening to the podcast. It's always good to be able to like swerve hard. Yeah. You know, and hit them with something that they are like really not expecting. Yeah. Because otherwise they'll just like just steam.

roll. Every time. Yeah. It's funny too because I was talking to one of my friends, we were going to an event, and she was telling me about a guy, and she was just basically telling me he steamrolls her in every conversation. And like she was saying, he'll ask me questions so that I can prop him up for the next thing. You know what I mean?

And it's like, you don't even need me for this conversation. So he just talks at her for however long, holds her hostage for however long, and then make sure to take a picture with her and then bounces because he just wants to be able to tell people he saw her. And so when we were talking about it. she was like yeah every fucking time like I see him at every event it's so fucking annoying and I was telling her I was like you don't have to stand there and listen to him like yeah you really don't like if you're just like okay well nice to see you and just turn your back like yeah yeah yeah

what's he's gonna do you know she's like I know huh like we were kind of laughing about it we go to the event that's the first person that she sees yeah and he does the same shit comes up to her steam rolls her like he's trying to talk to her but then he's like selfie yeah when we went home she was telling me she goes oh my god I need even tell you like when when he came up and talked to me he asked me a question i started answering it he cut me off to like tell his story yeah um and then she was like you know you do that a lot you did that to me yeah and then he was like oh like he literally had no idea what to say and he said what do you mean and she goes you ask me questions and then you interrupt me so you can talk like why do you ask me the

question if you don't want to hear my answer i was like period bitch fucking tell him he like blue screened like the way he rebooted immediately yeah all his like pre-selected dialogue options just went up in smoke he's like fuck i'm not prepared for this he was like oh um i'm sorry and she was like it's fine it's just like don't talk to me if you don't want to hear what i have to say and then i was like you better work bitch and she she's like yeah so then i was like all right well see you and she before she left she told him she said yeah you should work on that yeah you're probably you could do this in the mirror yeah you don't have to be a part of it i think also that a lot of, like, a lot of men depend on, like, uh, politeness as like a, like,

social construct that, like, women are conditioned into. And it's like baked into them. Yeah. And I, I feel like, number one, like, advocacy is to drop, like, politeness altogether. You and me both, bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You and me both. I don't have to sell you on this one. Uh-uh. No, I'm with you. Yeah. Like, it's such like a, a, uh, a privilege and system of power thing to do to totally. Just be polite. You know, it's like, we're like, we're like, we're just like, we're We can do anything we want to do and you have to be polite. And that's like where all these hurt feelings come from. It's like, it's like, Drew Body shamed me.

It's like, and you were doing what when it happened? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's not. I was like, I was too, you know, I look at me. Yeah, it's always like, well, she, I'm like, no, I don't hit first, but I do hit back. Yeah. So that's. And I hit once.

Yeah. My hitting is not very, it's not really one you can come back with. But that's, I've told people before because they're like, well, have you. You're okay talking about what people look like. Then I should be able to comment on what you look like. That never stops you regardless. You're going to do that. Even if I was like just making fucking cooking content,

you would still be content at what I look like. It doesn't matter. So yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, but also like swing straight and clean because don't miss. You're only getting one. I've told people I'm like, I highly encourage you to comment on what I look like. I honestly get quite bored pretty frequently. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's one dude, I think recently that's been getting sent to me a lot. And even my sister yesterday asked me, she's like, hey, are you going to, have you heard about this guy? And I bet you know who I'm talking about. How Alpha Dan hasn't made it to my algorithm. My algorithm is like, seven things you did not know about SpongeBob. And I'm like, no, mine too. It's funny. My 40 page, thank God is not plagued with that shit.

My mention's another story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Completely different story. But anyways, there's one guy that's been recently, like, within the last week or two, has been getting sent to me a lot. And I was telling her, I was like, I'm thinking about it. but like I'm bored. Like, yeah. I have a bunch of insults in my head, but they're like,

because they're all doing the same shit. Exactly. And they're all inspired by the same people. I'm like, are you not tired of this fucking, like, this stick? You're, you're doing like the like tour of the zoo. You know what I mean? Like, you've done it 600 fucking times. And it doesn't even sound like you're into it.

Yeah. Like, what are we doing at this point? Yeah. They're like, if she and you're like, goes the club. Yeah. You know, like, the way I can like almost ad lib finish the sentence every time. Yeah. It's at what.

point, like you said, do you get tired? Because do you even believe in this shit? Like, there's some people where I'm like, I don't even think you believe in this shit. I think you just like having any sort of attention, even if it's infamy. And I feel so, like, conflicted about it because I'm like, I can only talk about this shit for so long. Yeah. The same shit like over and over and over again. Because sometimes now people are like, how do you pick people now? And I'm like, only if I have a good joke. Yeah. Like if I got a banger joke, I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm a stitch that guy. There was a guy a few years ago who I like went after. Yeah.

Who was like some podcast, bro, you know. Aren't they always? He was doing this like really misogynistic thing. And then he like came out and was like, it was a social experiment. And I was like, then be ready to collect some other fucking data because he would come. Shit. Isn't it always? Yeah.

And I made a video about him and he hit me up and was like, go on the podcast. Like come on the podcast. Really? And I made a video about the fact that he had offered me to come on the podcast. And everyone was like, you better go. Like you better go. You better get him. And I thought about it and I was like, I do not want to prop this guy up.

Yeah. Like I do not want to make this guy more famous. I thought about that. And I was like, I will give this guy six weeks. Yeah. And if he doesn't self-explode and get canceled, then I'll go on his podcast and I'll talk to him. Yeah. Five weeks later, that guy gets arrested for the thing that you would think that a guy like that would get arrested for.

Oh, my fucking God. And I was like, well, I assume you're not booking guests. I assume that you can't stream from the prison yard. Yeah, yeah. Let me know if I'm wrong. Yeah, I mean, like some people get that deal, you know, like the Jordan Belfort prison. Not this guy. I don't think you're going where he went. I don't think his views were high enough.

That's so real, honestly. I've gotten not nearly as many podcast invites as you may think from men who fucking hate me. And for obvious reasons, like they don't, they actually don't want to have that conversation with me one on one. But also I feel so strongly about that because sometimes they're like, like, we'll bring me on your show so I could, why would I do that? Yeah. You want me to give you attention and followers and clicks? Oh, no, I'm not doing that.

Yeah. I was like, you want to platform your, like, bigoted messaging. Get your own fucking show. Yeah. I did. Yeah. So, like, get your own. Also, like, like, they're going to come here and, like, sit in the room.

Yeah, sit in the green room and have a little drink. Yeah. You know, like, talk to everybody. Exactly. Hey, I'm the, I'm the misogynist from, uh, A red pill right brain. I don't know if you're familiar. Yeah.

That like really violent toxic like masculinity mindset of like, oh, I'm going to prove you wrong. Yeah. I don't have that. Like I don't need to prove anything to anyone. Yeah. Because I know I'm smarter than you and so do you. And that's why you don't want to do this shit with me on your own platform. Like you would rather me bring you on my show so you can have like it just makes no sense.

So that's why I'm like I don't have to prove that I'm bad. better than you yeah because I am and that's just obvious and so like it doesn't bother me because then they're like oh well you're just a fucking chicken yeah okay like that doesn't move me yeah I don't get motivated by that because I'm not a Neanderthal so it doesn't move me it's very like similar to kind of like the Andrew Tate thing where like I'm sure you got this but like I got like millions of comments being like you've got to talk about Andrew Tate and I was like that's the one guy who I do not want to talk about yeah because like that's not a dude who I think he's not even in America for real but that

And I think I saw your video on this. Greta Thunberg, like, called his dick little. And he got so mad that he docks himself and got sent to prison. Like. And he got God. Yeah. Like, hello. And I was like, Queen.

And that's hilarious. That's the funniest thing that could have happened. That's so funny. Yeah. And I did. I made a video laughing about it. Yeah. And it's so funny, too, because even with him, like, before any of, before he even, like, had any sort of presence on TikTok, I had made a couple of videos about him, but I had no.

I do who the fuck he was. I was just like talking shit about him. And then I think at overall, I had made like maybe three on him over the course of like two years. And then when all this shit happened and he blew up and I was constantly getting sent shit just like you. I was like, I'm not talking about this guy anymore. Like he's literally like literally an assaulter. Like he's literally a predator. I'm not platforming that kind of messaging anymore. I'm over him. And that's someone who I feel like, I was like this is literally a Ouija board like someone opening that portal and letting his ass in here. You guys have plagued the internet with him.

So let's just pretend he's dead. Yeah. And hope that he goes away because that's what I'm going to do. Yeah. And especially with like people like that, it's like I do not want to risk some 12 year old. Exactly. Seeing me and being like, oh, there's soy boy talking about this, you know, and like clicking and being like, now I love him. You know, like, that's me.

That's me. That's me in every coffee. That's their favorite thing to call men who are like respectful. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, soy boy. Yeah, they're like, soy boy. I'm like, it's a good milk alternative. And?

And is there a problem? Like, I was going to ask, my next question we're going to be about hate. Like, do you get a lot of hate from men? It's petered off. I mean, like, here's what I'll say. Like, they don't come from me like they come for, like, people, like women. Yeah. I think like.

It's more of a, no, you don't get it. Yeah. Or it's more like, I think like, early in the days of how to piss off men, people would hit me with, like, criticism. And I would immediately, like, lean in. into it. Yeah. I wanted to like exhaust the talking points. Yeah. So people were like, you're a pick me and I was like, I love being a pick me. Like it's the best. And like, uh, yeah, people were like, you're like, you're like white knighting. Like you're like trying to like save women. And I'm like,

I'm giving women weapons and they're going to save themselves. Like, yeah, I don't know what point I'm saving anyone. I'm giving them tools. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm doing a little bit of like academic embarrassment work, you know. Um, um, um, Every once in a while I'll get something like really, really, really scary. Yeah, same. It's nice now. Like when I first started, I did not have a team. Like, I didn't have anyone I could talk to.

So, like, stuff would come through and they'd be like, this your address. And I'd be like, no. That's the, like, scary part of what it is we do, which is, like, the people that were, like, protecting or the people that were on the other side provoking are, like, some of them. Because I've said before, like, there are some people that I genuinely. never platform or stitch or anything and it's because I feel like there's another layer there that I'm unwilling to touch because I'm like my stick and everything that I'm doing is protecting other people and you're on a whole other level of fucking like literally insanity we're not doing that yeah that's too much if they're far enough down the pipeline yeah they have some fantasy about like

doing something horrible exactly like that's like part of the incentive structure within that pipeline So like you can tell too. Yeah, I know. You see it in the eyes. Totally. You know? Yeah, totally. And there's a difference between like sexist, you know, like Jimbrough and like a dude who's got like a like 16 hour screen time.

Exactly. Yeah. And you can tell too, I feel like, because you see all the same shit I do. Yeah. It's more of a like vibe check. I'm kind of like, yeah, that person I'm not willing to touch. Yeah. Like I don't think.

I don't think that they're doing this for attention or like I think they're doing this. for a reason and it's like I'm not gonna engage in it yeah and I think that's probably smart all these like podcast dudes are at least like producing a podcast yeah like I know I know that they're like sentient enough to like cut footage you know so I'm like fuck you like but a dude who's like on it like the way I record videos if anyone records videos in the same ways that I do like this far from your face like talking into the microphone I'm like that's a freak I would fucking know you're a freak you're weirdo and not in a good way. Even recently, because, like, I've talked about WNBA players recently.

Like, and when I say recently, I mean, like, a fucking month ago at this point. And there are still men to this day, like, stitching that same video. And I'm just defending them because it's men on a podcast doing this, like, what if game of, like, what if high school basketball players played women in the NBA, WNBA? And I'm like, well, see, that would never fucking happen. And I hate this hypothetical shit just so you can dunk on women. Like, it's fucking stupid. They're like, what if the circumstances were.

different, then things would be different, huh? And it's like, you're just discovering what things are. The, like, the possibilities, like your unlocking possibility. Yeah, like, standard, yeah, probably things would be different, but we'll never find out, will we? I made a video about this, what everyone was asking for, like, what do you say to the lock and key analogy, you know, like a key that can unlock anything as a master lock and a, you know, like a lock that can get unlocked by any keys, like a shitty lock or whatever. These are not the same things. Like, if a penis was a basketball and a vagina was a dolphin, then things would be hilarious. But they're not.

You don't know what these things are. You're so mean because I'm like, and what if there were fucking flying dicks? Like, who gives a shit? Like, what are we talking about? Like, we're comparing women to inanimate objects. Like, that's like, they're not the same. They're like, if women were objects, I'm like, that would be a form of objectification. They're like, I don't know that word, but.

They're like, you don't get it. They're like, we're not on the same YouTube, are we? You know. I did the locking key thing, too. I was like, a man with a lot of keys, a janitor. Fuck him. Sorry. Sorry to say, like, that's how, that's my view of it.

Like, who gives a fuck? How about you put lock these nuts on your forehead? How about that? Like, I don't give a shit. I don't care. Talk about whatever the fuck you want. Just don't make up shit so that all of you can, can key, key, and laugh together about how fucking dumb women are.

Like, that's literally you're propping that up so you can all talk shit and that on specifically professional female athletes and you're a piece of shit for doing that like that's pointless you know what you got to do to the guys like that is uh call like any sport that they want to talk about men's blank like are you watching like so like you can be like you guys watching men's football they're like football you're like men's football yeah yeah yeah you guys watching men's basketball like they love to be like oh it's women's basketball it's like it's basketball yeah you know what i mean like you're watching men's basketball like if you want to put a qualifier and front of fucking everything, we can do that.

But just be prepared for every conversation to take a little longer. We're going to waste a whole lot of time doing that. I'm putting prefixes everywhere, brother. One guy got so mad, he made like a whole bunch of videos about it, like my sport video, but he was like in his like, you know, talk about it. He was literally like, I mean, I'm only 5'4. Stop right there. I've heard enough.

I've heard enough. You're like, pause. Yeah, stop right there. And I literally told someone I was like, I didn't listen past that. Yeah. I didn't. And to be fair, most people won't. Yeah.

So it's like, stop right there. If you start the sentence with I'm 5'4 but, people hear like, well, yeah. People like, five four, huh? Like, wow. Interesting. Even when I joke about height and shit, like, they're always like, I can't change my height. Have you tried?

They're surgeries. You can get your, like, your, whatever this bone is. Yeah, your shin, your shin splints or whatever extended. I've saw it. And then you look like the scariest thing. Like you, you look tall, but people see you and they're like, that's not right. He's not supposed to be tall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You look like ex machina. That's stolen valor. That's what that is. It's like, fucking stolen valor. Have you ever seen this like license thing I did? I don't have it with me, but I had a Michigan license made, like a fake ID made that said my height was 510. Because I'm, I'm like, I'm a little over six foot and I tell dudes I'm 510. And there were dudes who are about as tall as me.

Yeah. And they'd be like, I will fuck you up. Me. There's no. And I'm like. Look, the government said so. They measured me at the DMV. So you must also be 510.

I love that you're committing to the bit of buying a fake idea when you don't need one. Yeah, like doing crime. I'm like 25. I'm talking to some college student at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. Like, how fast can you get this here? I'm trying to club right now. I used a fake ID in college, but it wasn't even really fake. It was just my sisters.

Yeah. But she's two years older than me. And I used hers. And on hers, it says I'm 5'4. And then I was like, well, I'm absolutely not 5'4. But I was like concocting all these fake stories. I was like, well, I got it when I was 16. And then I grew six inches or like seven, eight inches.

Wow, can you believe it? Then I hopped on the trend. And now, yeah, yeah. Then I got the shin split surgery. I went to Turkey. And for $87, they made me six foot. Yeah, I was like they literally added nine inches to my height. Can you believe it?

It's a miracle. And now I can dunk. And drink right now. I actually can't dunk, which is a bummer, but no. I've never tried, but probably me neither. How do your parents feel about your job now? Over the moon. They're psyched as hell.

But here's the thing is I'm like, stop reading comments. Oh, your parents read your comments. Yeah, yeah. Like the other day, they were like scrolling through them on the phone with me. And I was like, I know I've seen them. They're like, did you see this one that's really mean? Yeah. Well, I think like for a while they were really nervous.

Yeah. But then I started making money and they were like, oh, it's a business, you know. Yeah, naturally. Their choices were either support me forever or let me be insane online. And they picked. And they picked well, I think. They were like, I should probably watch this. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're blocked. But they have burners. They keep getting around your security protocols. I'm like, hmm, Kelly Prue 8, huh? Speaking of your content though, you're coming out with a book Or you came out with a book Or it's coming out

Yeah, it's September, yeah Period. How exciting. I'm excited too. Yeah, tell us about it. Tell us about the book. So yeah, it's a how to piss off men handbook. I think period. The thing about it was I like loved having the series

But like I think a lot of people were like This is logistically like not useful to me In the sense we're like if someone says something to me I can't pull up your profile I go and like scroll through 30 videos like find out what his interests are yeah and so I wanted something that you could like flip through have at a moment's note like be ready to go with like some guys like portable so we guys like what do do do and you're like give me one fucking second like I'll get your ass hold that thought yeah yeah so I wanted to do something that like because

I think like I love the internet you know I wanted something that could exist like out in the world like I wanted this to be like an activity yeah so yeah it's like over a hundred things you can say to piss off men and there's like some personal meditations in there. It's so funny, like the publisher wrote the back of the book or whatever, and they wrote, all of these have been tested for effectiveness, even on the author. Because, like, the whole book is me, like, this one really, really hurt. Girl, this was, this one's personal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Most of them are like, this was said to me at Trader Joe's. This is not in the book because it's too late. But someone at the gym to me the other day said, just came up and was like, I'm sorry. And I was like, yes, I am. And they were like, they go. She goes, are you anemic? And I was like, how do you mean?

She goes, you show lots of signs of anemia. And I go, and she goes, I'm a nurse. And I was like, I'm glad. Oh, okay. I'm glad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm glad you clarified. I thought you were going to say something that was going to make it less mean.

But I'm glad she just told me. She was like, can you stand up really fast? I just got to see what happens. And you know the messed up thing? I'm anemic. So am I. Really? Yeah.

We really are twins. Yeah, this is Virgos. Your book's coming out in August? July. July. Yeah, end of July. July 30th. We're coming up.

Period. Look at the summer. Hot girl summer. Yes. Books. Yes. Hot girl summer books. Yes.

What are your favorite, like, if you could think of a couple off the top of your head, like your favorite things that you wrote about in the book? So yeah, I love, sorry, I don't have any change. And when men try to explain crypto to you, say, oh, it's like, Cole's Cash. And then they go, no, no, no, no. You're like, no, I get it. It's like, Cole's Cash. I totally get it.

Yeah, yeah. It's like an alternate currency. It's mainly online. Yeah. I'm a Maxinista personally. Yeah. So I love. Yeah.

I love. I totally get it now. Yeah. I'm trying to think of, yeah, yeah. Oh, one of the, it's like, oh, my God, you're so funny. Like, oh, my God, you're so funny. You're just like, you're like James Corden. You're, you're so funny.

And you're funny in like the exact same way that he's funny. You know, like. That's really going to fit it's awesome. Yeah. Especially in L.A. Yeah. Yeah. Every dude in L.A.

thinks they could do stand-up comedy. Here's the thing I said, if you go too far with this, if you don't say James Corden soon enough, he will start doing stand-up like that afternoon. He's going to start workshopping. Shit, are there some open mics near here? You should come with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go workshop some material. I need someone to laugh.

I think one of the ones I have in there is this was, I think, the first one I ever did in any of the videos, which was like, tell I got, oh, trust me, we've talked about it. Men hate being discussed. It's how they get caught. You know, like when he says. like something he does or whatever you're like we've talked about it oh yeah don't worry yeah yeah yeah there's been an internal meeting um about you and your behavior and he's like shit they know about everything what's that supposed to be yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah they know my phone password they must have been through there um that's so funny i remember one time my friends and i were out and this guy was talking

well this guy and his friend were talking to me and my girlfriend and they were Australian Australian men are fucking horrible. They're real dice roll. I don't know what's going on over there. They come over here for some like horrible tourism. Yeah, they're on some next level awful tourism. They're like, what's terrorize? I was about to try and do an Australian accent.

And I was like, this is not the time to try that for the first time. I was like, maybe not here. Yeah, maybe not. No, not with your viewership. Yeah, they come over and they terrorize American women. But when he was talking to my friend and I, we were just like, what do you do for a living?

Because we were in college. And they said that they were athletes. And I was like, oh, we're like, what do you guys do for a living? And they said that they were swimmers. And I was like, like just in general or because I wasn't, I couldn't think of a job that you would have that you were a swimmer. And they were telling, he was like, no, we're Olympians. And I was like, okay.

Well, the New Zealand guy was saying the Australian guy is actually placed. He's like, he's like, he's like, one medals and stuff. Like, I've never placed, but that's what we do for a living. And I was like, okay. Yeah. Like, I just like, immediately don't believe you, but like, okay. Yeah, yeah. And he was like, we are, we are.

And I was like, I mean, okay. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Like, same. It's like, if you really are, and that's you and that's your craft and that's your, your whole thing, it's like, why do you need me to validate it? Yeah, that's my point.

Why do you need me to be like, you are a swimmer? Like. You're right. You're right. You're right. It's like, I have a bronze medal and you're like, yeah, you fucking are. Bronze. I literally told him, I was like, I mean, okay. And then it was just very like, he needed to prove it to me. Yeah. And I was like, I like don't give a shit, but like, okay. And so my friend and I were laughing because like when you just act like, okay, they get really pissed off. They hate that. Sure. Because men want to feel important. Yeah, exactly. If you figure out what he's like tied his self-worth to, because they all pick a thing.

Yeah, they do. They're all like, this is the thing that's important. And because it's important, it makes me special. My interest in it makes me important. Yep. If you belittle that thing, their whole shit crumbles, you know. And they, like, start, like, short-circuiting, like. You're like, you're like, you just go back and forth, huh?

Yeah. You know, it's quicker to walk. You swim. They're like, they're like, this matters for Australia. I do it for the nation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, we are, we are. And he, like, literally unbuttoned his shirt to take out his arm.

to show me the back of his like shoulder blade because they had the like Olympic rings. Right, right, right. You know, they don't check when you go get tattoos. No shit. I literally was like, I was like, I could go into any tattoo shop and get that. But like my point is like, you ain't got to lie to kick it. Like, I don't give a shit. And what's funny is like they looked like they could be Olympian swimmers,

but because you're being so insane, I'm going to keep acting like I don't believe you. And then eventually he Googled himself and like found his own Wikipedia page and then made me read it. And I was like, okay, yeah, no. for sure. And when I'm looking at it, I was literally like, you guys are Olympians, but haven't bought me a drink. Yeah. Yeah. Anyone can make these, you know. It's like a user edited platform, you know, like. Me just constantly poking holes and everything. I'm going to get the Olympian tattoo and write like, javelin 2012. And be like, go ahead, check that. Yeah. Yeah. Fact check. That's proof. That's proof. I paid $200. And a 21 year old made it permanent.

And yeah, I was drunk the night I got it. Yeah. Yeah. What's that have to do with anything? I was in. Berlin? 2012. You having to Wikipedia what year the Olympics were. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like Great Britain. Anyway, speaking of your book, How to Piss Off Men, right? We have a couple TikToks that apply to that.

And it says, okay, in this video, a guy on a podcast lists what he considers the three biggest red flags to look out for when dating a woman. He says, if you're dating a woman who is, one, posting thirst traps on social media, two has guy friends that she wants to stay in touch with or three enjoys going out to the club run okay you know these guys who make these

they're like we're trying to return to traditional values yeah trabb wives or whatever we want to go back to traditional values what they're saying is like remember when they couldn't get away like remember when like they literally couldn't get a job unless they were married yeah yeah remember when the government made them stay like what happens is like one of these dudes gets like dumped so hard by his hot-ass girl. She sounds very cool.

Like there's traps, hitting the club, you know, like tons of guy friends. Yeah. And he's like, I got to make a podcast. And also, I'm feeling nostalgic for the fact that my grandma could not escape, you know. Like. My grandmother was miserable, but at least my grandpa never had to like remarry. Yeah. Or be nice.

What the fuck? That's what I've even said. I'm like, if you were to go back and. time and like talk to your grandmother like your great great grandmother. Yeah. This tradwife bullshit. Yeah. She probably fucking hated your great, great,

great. Yeah. Like, I guarantee it. It's all of history. Women weren't even allowed to have their own bank account until the 70s. So like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, let's go back.

I'm like, okay, by that measure, first of all, go to war. Yeah. Second of all, go make a lot of money and I'm not going to do anything. I'm going to be at home. Yeah. And I need you to pay for home. And I'm going to be on Valium like you've never seen it before. Yeah, dude.

I'm going to go absolutely crazy. It's funny when people, like, I think like I see a lot of people being like, it's hard to date right now. And it's like, this is the first time we've ever tried to do it based on like actually liking each other. For real. You know, like, this is a historic moment where we're like, I don't know if I like men. And most men don't like women at all. They're just attracted to them. Yeah.

Which is very different between like actually enjoying their company and like wanting to spend time with them and also being attracted to them. It's just like, it's purely attraction and they don't like them or like hanging out with them, which is weird. I think like a lot of people now are going into dating with checklists. Yeah. Like they got to have blank, blank, blank, blank, blank, like men are like, I want a woman who doesn't have friends, who doesn't club. You know, like, this dude's like, he's like, watch out for these things. And it's like, you should get to know people on a person to person level. Like, what if you meet a girl who is like your best friend in the whole world and you realize why she has so many guy friends?

and she loves the club, you're going to give all that up? Yeah. Like. Because some dick on a podcast said so. Yeah. He said run. So, bye. Yeah.

Like, he's like, also, is there anything more fucking submissive than listening to what another man tells you what to do? Truly. Uh-oh. Kind of gay. Uh-oh. I can say it. You're sounding real readable and submissive.

Yeah. Uh-oh. That's a really submissive thing to do. It is. I did watch that video before we came here. Oh, you did? Yeah. Because I was like, I got to get a look at this dude.

I was like, it's like evil Hozier. Like he looks like If Hozier fucking hated women. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If Hozier made the opposite type of music, Hozier's like, I'll crawl across the earth for you. This guy's like, if she steps foot in a club, I'm killing myself. And it's on you.

I'm blaming you. It's an evil hosier. Holy shit, can you fucking imagine? That would be crazy. That's the one thing I do not think the earth can handle is evil Hozier. Oh my God, no way. Okay, the comments on this, this says, man speaks truth in a relationship there must be mutual respect no male friends for her nor girl

friends for him i don't know if this is like not necessarily controversial but uncommon but like a lot of women i know that are not fucking picnys they do have male friends but a lot of times they're either in relationships with women and they're more so friends with a girl yeah or they're related to them or they're like a childhood friend that they've just known forever i don't know like what age are you talking about. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, because sounds like you're talking about young women. And that's another problem. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, my girlfriend's always hanging out with guys in her home room. It's like, wait a minute. Oh, who let you on the internet? Yeah. Wait. Oh, okay. Well, that's not. Yeah. That's a little different, isn't it? I also think that like as a woman going out, you're going to go find a guy

who doesn't know any women like at all, not safe. Like very scary. You know what I mean? Super scary. Like, I think, like, it's probably, like, it's probably good to, like, it's good for both people to have friends of the opposite gender, I think, because it's like, it's like, if, if you are a guy and you have friends who are women. Yeah. You are like, that's probably a good sign that you're like, you don't just see women as objects. And you're not awful. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, they have been willing to stomach you in some capacity.

Like, big news. Green flag. I feel like as you get older, too, like, the relationships you form with people are, like, like they're just so different. If that makes sense, like my, my boyfriend has friends that are women, but they're mostly like women that I'm friends with.

Or they're like women that he knows from college. Yeah. They're also in relationships. You know what I'm saying? It's just like the dynamic shifts as you get older. So that's why I'm like, what age are you talking about? Because like as you get older,

you start being friends with people that are in either committed relationships or they just have longstanding relationships. So they're like, again, like brother and sister. It's like completely different. I don't know what the fuck. Like, who are all these women? Yeah. With all these male friends.

Like, I don't know what you're talking about. Also, if my, I would be more concerned if my boyfriend, like, only wanted to hang out with his, the guys. Yeah. All the time. Yeah. And if he had, like, friends that were women and they, we all hung out together. Yeah. That's more sinister to me.

A mixed gender group hangout. Yeah. Is, like, you know, like you said, it's, I think it's a good sign. If they have women that are willing to tolerate them on a platonic level, that's actually a good sign. Yeah. This one says, Stay single, my friends. They will take your house, your truck, your money, your kids, and your dog.

That's a personal experience. Yeah, that sounds like, that sounds like you need a diary. I love when, like, dudes do stuff like that. Like, they comment online. They're like, women are always liking my stepdad more than me. And you're like, well, it's like a personal thing. Hmm. Like, I'll read this next video.

Okay, this one says, The woman in this video is sitting in her car, lip-syncing this affirmation to herself. I don't need no man, I don't need no man, I'm a bad bitch. And men in her comment section are very personally offended by it. So this first one says, keep that same energy when you need a police officer, a fireman, or a mechanic. Oh. They make those in women now. I don't know if anybody told you.

Those come in a female build now. Did you guys know that? New models. New models just dropped. They're much more aerodynamic. Even if I needed one, I'm not calling them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, house is on fire.

I'm going to figure this out. No worry. No worry. It's actually no worries. I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is like the thing like, this has been like for the last few years. It's like, it's like, keep that in mind when you need the police to save you.

It's like the police that save me. That's an oxymoron, isn't it? Nobody's ever fucking saved me. Police come. I'm getting in trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm not calling them. I'll tell you that much.

Yeah, yeah. But like, who called us? You're like I did. They're like, for real. Really? I think your name was Drew. Drew. For real.

We show up for dress. I was like even something. Yeah, what the fuck? Like call them so they can say. Okay. I feel like, yeah, the same like you're going to need me. It's the same thing when men are like, when women say shit like that and then they get personally offended. They're like, oh, well, don't call us when you need protection.

From what? From you? That sounds like from, okay, from other men. Well, we're not cavemen anymore. So there's no saber tooth tigers wandering into my den. So I feel like I'm okay. but also when it comes to like you know they're always like well men are protectors and women are gatherers or whatever the fuck like that hunter gatherer bullshit it's actually a fallacy but native

american people like indigenous people a lot of times they would leave women and children behind but specifically women because they believed women were far more valuable than men were so like if they go to war or some shit like they could afford to lose men but they can't afford to lose women because women create life so they think women are far and more precious. Yeah. So they would leave them behind because they don't want anything bad to have it because they need them.

Yeah. Whereas they viewed men as disposable. So they were like, well, men and die and that's fine. Yeah. Right. Like, we need women. So, like, this tenter gatherer shit was like from colonization. Like that was like created this fallacy of it because that's actually not why.

Yeah. There was like a distinction between the two. It wasn't because women are weak. It was because women were more valuable. Here's what you got to do. This is, I dropped this one recently. If a man tells you who he's an alpha, you go. is that a furry thing

I don't know much about it he's like I'm top dog and you're like I'm sure you are I bet yeah oh god yeah yeah yeah I smelled that on you when he came in this uh hey this next comment says but at the end of the day remember that's his car

do you know women can't buy cars I just heard just found out just found out just got the news and this last one says we'll be another old maid Okay. Well, that's like almost related to that study. I think they draw I think it came out last year. Yeah, it was definitely last year because I was getting tagged in it a lot, but it was like basically saying that men are reporting far higher levels of loneliness than they ever have in the last like 20 years. And it's literally because women are like, oh yeah, I don't like have to be with you if I don't want to. Everything in the world. That's crazy. Everything in the world is about incentives. If women aren't like pairing up anymore, it's because you're not properly incentivizing. They're revising them to do so.

Yeah, they have no desire to. Because they don't need to, so they won't if they don't have to. Well, like in the 50s, it was like, you know, like the only way, if I'm like a young woman, the only way for me to leave my house, my, like, father's house is to go to a different man's house. Yeah, literally. Like I have to, like, I read this like statistic like a long time ago, so it's going to be wrong. But like a super high amount of like women in the 50s married people who lived on the same street as they did. Like 80% or something like that.

Yeah. And like now, like 9% of people marry someone from the same. count as them. Yeah. You know, because like, yeah, it's just not the same anymore.

Mobility is so much different. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, the gift of like free will. Yeah, it used to be like, I know two men and I'm going to make a life with one of them.

You know? Well, I saw one and he wasn't that bad. Yeah. Whenever your grandma's like, he called me every day, you're like, he shouldn't have done that.

We love Papa, but. But I wish you had better. I wish you had more options. Yeah. No means to know. Yeah. I feel like,

I feel like, Like the paradigm has shifted drastically in how women are viewing the necessity of men in their life. And so now it's more so, well, if I don't have to put up with this shit, I'm not going to. And then men are like, what the fuck? Yeah. Like, how am I supposed to fucking get late if they know I'm awful? Shape up, man. They know I'm terrible.

Get your money up. God. They're like, they're all in the clubs. It's like, get to the club, dude. Yeah, then go. What the fuck? Like, what are you still doing here? Buy a bottle.

Wait. Okay, just to wrap things up. You had a very interesting journey. Your lore is very interesting. Strange, yeah. But I'm curious, like, what... We'll ask you two different kinds of questions. The first one I'll ask you is,

what's your best piece of advice for men who are, like, not awful inherently, but, like, maybe they're trying to be better. Yeah. And they have to, like, fight those, like, urges. Yeah. And it's, and it's not by anyone, like, it's not inherently anyone's specific fault. I always say that. It's like, everybody has internalized misogyny, women included, and anyone else on the gender

spectrum has it. It's like our job to unpack it. Yeah. But like, what would you say is your best piece of advice for men who are, like, actively trying to unpack that and, like, not be horrible, like, be someone who can, like, approach women and not scare them or, like, be awful to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How Not to Scare Women is my new series.

For real. Move slowly. I think to like a person like that, I would say like, I've been you. You know what I mean? Like I think like how to piss off men came out of like my like brittle and fragile like ego, you know. Your own unpacking of it. Yeah. And I think the thing that I would say is that like anger is blood from a wound.

And men love to talk about anger. Yeah. But they never want to talk about the wound. Yeah. And I think it's important. If something is making you what you would say, like, irrationally angry. If it's, like, out of context, then you have to put it in context. For real.

You know, like, I had a friend of mine who was like, who would always tell me, she's like, if it's you versus a goose and a fight, it's the goose. And I was always like, I was like, they're 25 pounds. Like, I box five hours a day. I'd fuck up a goose. A lot of nectar hit, you know. But I like pull out of that and, like, why does it matter to me at all to be seen as a person who's like capable of violence?

You know what I mean? Like, why do you? You can one up a goose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it doesn't matter. Yeah. That situation is unlikely. Like, every time I-

fight for your life. Every time I see a goose now, I'm like, not today. Don't. Yeah, I'm like, I'm ready for you. I think it's important to, like, say, like, if I'm, irrationally angry, let me follow that to what the wound is. Like, how do I want to be seen and why is this, like, upsetting me? And I think it's important to have the realization.

Like, I think a little bit of nihilism is healthy. Like, I think it's a little bit important to be like, what if all this shit I care about doesn't really matter. You know, like, I think the gift of that. That was hard for me for a while. Like, obviously, like, all this, like, you know, like, art is so important. But, like, at the end of the day, like, it is for me. It is on, like, some level, like, a way to feel, like, important, you know. Yeah, totally.

I think it means a lot to be able to be like, I'm dropping that. Like, I'm able to drop that and be like, I'm not important, you know, like, I have healing to do. Yeah. And if you can do that, everything gets so much more. better so much faster. It's crazy how that works, huh? Like, the ability to not engage in things that don't serve you. Yeah. And like to leave them and know that it doesn't say anything about you inherently if you leave it. Yeah. This like 50s male fantasy. It's like that wasn't real then. It really wasn't. Like someone is selling you this shit. You are trapped in like a in like a Greek

tragedy. For real. Where you're getting angrier and anger and angrier to like bring love into your life and it's just never going to happen. No, never. In a million fucking years. I think that's very found honestly and I feel like like I said earlier in the episode like it means a lot coming from you especially when men hear it and I feel like there are men in the world that really do want to try yeah like and be better um they just like have these things tendencies and shit and I've had like very few but some men who have been like you know you really kind of help me unpack some things and I'm sure you've gotten that too like like you said why does that bother me so much I feel like too it's like it really speaks to your own

agility if the only thing the only like gotcha you have is the accomplishments of another man yeah it's not even you kind of gay it's not even you i saw like hannah bernard do you know hannah bernard yeah love her she uh was on one of my other friends podcasts she was talking about war she goes i don't know how do they do that like how do they get so many men to show up on time i can't even get my friends to come to brunch on time and then in her bit she says like also a man killing a man gay penetration He was like, you care about him that much. Yeah. Very intimate to kill another person.

You're the most important person in that man's life at that point. Like, I remember when I was in college, we had a Greeks class and so much like Greeks is like conversation about like, you know, like war and everything. And I remember our like 90 year old professor was like, well, men love war because it's penetrative. And a lot of the men were like, it's all about breaking into cities. Like it's all about penetrating other men. and with swords and the dudes were like, that's not, they're like,

that's not true, take it back. They're like, what about guns? And it's like, that's just penetrating someone from very far away. Still the same thing.

Still the same fucking thing. Like, like headline like, war over, like we just found out it's gay. The way they start being like, hey, you know what? Forget war.

Yeah. I don't care about war. Who cares about that? I'm in the gym. Back to the gym. Okay, last question. What kind of advice would you have

for creatives who are maybe looking to, Because I know you also write and you're an actor. And now you're an author, period. Look at you. What would you say is your best piece of advice for people who are creatives and maybe they want to venture into different avenues, whether it's social media or filmmaking, writing, all that stuff?

I think you have to like it. Yeah. You know, whatever it is, like, you have to be able to stand by it and say, like, I like this. You know, like, I know a lot of, like, young actors who are trying to get platforms because it's good for a cash thing and stuff and it seems like this is the way the world is going and they're like clearly like phoning it in you know and and i think i think it's important to be like you know like obsessed over the details like if you if you want to be a creator you want to make things like it is so important to like really really really give a fuck about like the tiny little

minutia yeah totally and i think like it shows if you don't i feel very much like you're you're this way like um like you have to care about every word yeah you know like i think I think like, especially if you're doing comedy, like, it matters why you choose to say a certain word and not a different word. Yeah, totally. If you want to be a creative, I think like the likes will come and go. The attention will come and go. The industry will come and go. Yeah.

You have to be like in a vacuum. Like I made this video and I watch it and I like it. Yeah, totally. You know, because everything else is fluid. And if you put yourself worth into the ups and downs of it. Or the virality of other people. Like, and that's a robot. You know what I mean?

Totally. Like, you can't control that. If your views tank, all, you just got to be able to be like, I like it. Yeah. You know. Absolutely. Yeah, because also at the same time, too, like now, like you put someone online, like, people are going to have it. You know, like, you better like it enough that in like 10 years they pull that up.

You're like, I stand by that. For real. If you're in court, they're like, can you read the transcript? You're like, yeah, I love this one. Oh, this is a banger. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I talked about his nipples. village wet nurse. Okay. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you so much for having me. You're fucking amazing. I love you. I love you.

This was so fun. It was so fun. I'm so glad we can meet, twin. Finally. Burgos. Virgo's rule. Period. And thank you so much to all of you for tuning into this episode.

Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Kyle. Where can everybody find you? You can find me on all social platforms at Kyle Peru. And how to piss off men comes out in September. Period. Where can they get it? anywhere books are sold. Love.

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