The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - TWO VIRGOS WITH A PB+J Ft. Lizzy McAlpine | Episode 141

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

This week the one and only Lizzy McAlpine is here!! After Drew makes Lizzy apologize for her devastatingly relatable lyrics, they talk about their lack of survival skills, getting sassed by paparazzi, Lizzy’s love for horror movies and Steven King, crushing on Dylan O’Brien, and so much more. Drew: https://linktr.ee/drewafualo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah, love that. Thank you. Hey, everyone. And welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your favorite. everybody knows me who cares about me onto the guests. Today we have the other half to my peanut butter the one and only the iconic, the legendary,

the incredibly talented, Lizzie McAlpine. Woo! Welcome to the show, Jelly. Look at us. We're matching. I know, it's so cute. I love that for us. No one ever wants to wear a costume with me. Lizzie, thank you so much for joining me in the fun and the silly, happy spooky season. I'm honored to have you.

Thank you for having me. Oh my gosh, I've been a huge fan of you forever. All right, cards on the table. Fine, since you asked. Your song Seelings was my number one song played last year. That's just me being honest. Okay, I want to start the relationship, honest. I really appreciate that. In a not weird way, I want to start the relationship. Right, right. Thanks. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. You're an icon and a living legend. I'm so happy to have you on the show. Thanks. I'm so excited to be here. Oh, my gosh. And I would love to educate more people, the masses, if you will, on your lore. I'm pretty familiar with it, but I know you started on TikTok, or initially, like kind of how you like started kind of putting your your music out there.

But I would love to know like how you came to where you are now. Like what's that journey been like for you? Well, I went to Berkeley College of Music in Boston. Ooh, nice. For two years. And then COVID happened while I was there. So I dropped out after two years. And then I started posting like covers on Instagram.

And I was like targeting people. I was like, okay, I want to cover this artist so that they'll notice me. And then it like usually worked. So that's how I like was building a fan base on Instagram. And then I put my first album out. And then I started posting on TikTok. And then yeah, it just kept going. What was the song that really like, would you say was like that was the one that really took off for you?

On TikTok or just like in general? Just in general, I guess. Was it pancakes for dinner? No, there was a, I wrote a song. It is not released and it will never be released. Um, it's called you ruined the 1975. And I posted it on TikTok and it like really went super viral randomly. And I still get comments about it.

Really? Like, we didn't even know that she sang that song. It was like a pandemic thing. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. But then like, I don't even know pancakes for dinner really had that big of a moment. But then Cilinx was like the big one. You're like your big, big one.

The big one. Well, pancakes for dinner was for me then because I loved that song. And I also, this is another fun fact for you about you. But I, when I was writing my book, I listened to one of your albums many times. It has Angelina on it. Oh my God. Yeah, I listened to the like acoustic live EP. Yeah.

I listen to that. Oh my God. Because I like to listen to music when I write, but I don't like to listen to music. I like to listen to music with lyrics. Like I know some people don't like that when they read and stuff. I do. Yeah. But I needed like a nice, like chill vibe.

So I listened to that one. That's like kind of a deep cut too. Right. Look at me. Day one. That's right. And where the fuck were y'all at? Not where I'm at. That's for sure. Exactly. Exactly. Day one. Anyways, I did want to tell you that. When I listened to that song, it reminds me of writing my book because I listen to it a lot on a shuffle. That's amazing. I love that. Get into it. And you guys, you guys are mad. You're fucking mad because I'm a day one stand. Sorry. But I would love to know when it did happen for you, like, with ceilings, like, how did that feel? Like, after kind of just like, were you gunning for that? Or were you kind of just, I just want to put my art out there. I had no idea. I mean, I had released five seconds flat.

I think it was like at least a year, maybe like at least like eight, nine months after the album had come out that ceilings like went viral. So like I wasn't expecting it. It wasn't a single like it was just like kind of a deep cut of the album and I wasn't really expecting that one to be the one that like went viral. But it was insane. I mean, it was so cool. And like, yeah, it really like opened so many doors. for me and like allowed me to be doing what I'm doing today it's like it's so insane yeah I love that and I think too like also speaking of that the album that uh ceilings is on I think you should apologize to everyone

for your song Doomsday specifically for the lyric that says the funny thing is I would have married you if you had stuck around yeah I think you should apologize I'm so sorry everyone felt really hit by that I'm so sorry I'm so sorry including my sister my sister literally said in my in the dressing room she was like I felt personally attacked by that lyric and I was like well oh my god well I'm sorry sorry she's not even listening but you know what I'll accept it on her back and everyone else's great great great but you are really truly such a genius lyricist I'd love you how you write how does that process look for you do you typically wait to feel inspired do you kind of like just jot things down as they come yeah it's usually like I can't force it so if I try and sit down and write when I don't

have like an idea or anything it's not going to happen yeah um so i just kind of have to wait and that means sometimes i go like a couple months without without writing anything and it's very frustrating because sometimes i want to write a song yeah but there's no inspiration so i like just have to be patient yeah it's not my strong suit i'm honestly so jealous of you because i obviously your beautiful brain comes up with the lyrics but also you're such a talented singer i can't sing for shit i can't sing at all Really? No, not even a little bit. I mean, I'm not tone deaf, but like, I tell people all the time, I'm not tone deaf, but I can't sing. Like, there's just, you know what I mean? It's not, it's not awful to hear it, but it's not nice. Like, no one's going to pay me for it. Right, right.

My point. Like, I always tell people, if I could develop a skill instantly, it would definitely be singing. I just have so much admiration for people who can sing so well. No, amen. And you're also so good at writing songs too. Shit. We need some for the rest of us. Sorry, God only gave me funny. That's all he gave me. Or they gave me. I don't know how God identifies, but that's all they gave me was fucking funny. But I would love to know how has it been kind of melding the worlds of being like an artist, but also being known for being on social media? Like, has it been a little difficult? Because you're kind of like, I'm not a TikToker. I was like, I just one of my songs went on TikTok. So like how has that process been for you? It's interesting. I try not to think about it too much.

And also I've kind of stopped posting a lot on TikTok. Like I used to post way more. I used to post like a lot of singing videos. And now it's just like I just post what's fun for me because I don't want to take it too seriously. And also now it's like I dealt with this a little bit at the beginning of my tour. But I had ceilings like kind of towards the end, but not at the end. And after that song, I was just watching people get up and walk out of the concert. And I was like, okay.

Because they were waiting for ceilings. Yeah. And then they, but that's why you put it at the end. Then I moved it to be the literal last song. So if they only paid to come see that one song, then they have to wait the whole show. You're so me.

I would do that too. I'd be like, well, guess what? You're going to have to wait. Literally. In fact, I'd push it one more. I'd be the encore song. It is. You got to make me good.

It is. Oh, the actual very last one period. You're so me. That's so funny. I'd do some petty shit like that too. I'd be like, well, guess what? You're going to have to cheer for me to come back and then. You can hear something.

Exactly. And I don't blame you either. I feel like to, I feel like that might be like the natural progression for a lot of artists where it's like you want to keep growing and grow like past certain phases and past certain. Yeah. Like songs that blew up initially. Yeah. How has adjusting to fame been for you being public? I mean, I don't consider myself like that famous.

Like I just and I don't really like leave my house so I don't have like any experiences. But I have like a couple, there have been a couple, like, crazy moments where, like, I'll be at the airport, like, waiting for my bags. And there's, like, five men coming up to me with, like, stacks of pictures of me to sign. And, oh, my gosh, like, I know what you're doing. Yeah, so they can go sell. That's crazy. I saw that for the very first time. I'm not even kidding.

At LAX, not too long ago. Yeah. Was it? I forget who. Oh, it was the dude from Walking Dead. I forget his name. Oh, yeah. But what's, what's the Asian guy's name from walking dead?

Glenn. Glenn. Glenn's character's name. Yeah, the guy who played Glenn. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. He sat next to us on a plane. Yeah. And we're like, oh, that's cool.

Whatever. When we get off the plane, there were literal, literal full-grown men, like, standing there. Oh, yeah. But they had, like, walking dead figurines and then headshots of him. Yeah. And they were like, oh, Stephen, Stephen, Stephen, which, like, I remember my sister goes, why did they have so many? And I was like, I don't know, maybe they're going to go sell it or something.

That's exactly what they're going to go. That's exactly what they do. And it's like, they think that I don't know what they're doing. And I'm like, they're like, I'm a really big fan. He's a 50 year old man. I'm like, at least like pretend. At least like try to act a little bit more. It was like, hey, what's your name?

Lizzie? That's right. Literally. Can you sign these? And they're like rude too. Oh, like I say no. And they're like, really? Like you can't just sign this one thing.

And I'm like, no, sorry. And then one time we're out there for I was with my manager, Molly. Yeah. And she was like, no, sorry. Like, we don't do that. And the guy literally turned to her and was like, I'm sorry, I was talking to Lizzie. And I was like, excuse you? I was talking to my favorite artist of all time.

What? I was like, we weren't like having a heart to heart. Like I'm sorry. He's like, ma'am, please don't interrupt. We're having a really intimate conversation, she and I. What's your name again? Lizzie. It was crazy.

It's wild. You know what's funny? This is not at all the same because I am merely a dickhead online. But one time when I was in New York, I was leaving a hotel and I was going, I was doing, I did like a quick turnaround trip. But like the hotel I was saying, it just so happened to have a bunch of famous people in it. I think because there was some like time gala or something. I wasn't going to that. Yeah.

I can't trust that enough. I was not going to that. But like I just so happened to be in the same hotel. And as I'm leaving, there's like barricades on the side. And there's a bunch of fans. Like I think it's mostly just people like they see barricades. They're like, ooh, so I'm famous. Yeah.

And then there's paparazzi. And so we're walking out. No one takes a picture of me, obviously. But then one guy, he like, like heard a girl say something to me. And so he took a couple of pictures. And then I. got in the car. I just said hi to her. I got in the car. As we're pulling off, I see him go up to that girl and he's like asking her, hey, who is this? And I was like, hey, buddy, like, just don't take the

picture. Yeah, right. Like, I'm like, hey, that's such a blow to my ego for no reason. And I was like, jokes on you, that picture's worth nothing. Good luck selling that one. No one's gonna fucking buy it. So good luck. But yeah, they're really rude. Like, people are weird. They get very invasive. It's just, yeah, and it's like, maybe if this was like a stranger, like, you would not be, like, following them through the airport. No shit, huh? I one guy, like, literally, like, was in the airport, like, past security. He would no ticket. And I was like, how did you get here?

Like, how did you even get back here? He's like, well, I guess I came to the airport for no reason. It's scary. Yeah, you did. That does, that would terrify me, to be honest. And the first time it happened, I was alone. Oh, yeah. And I was like, I don't know how to say no.

do you? Oh, did you stand there and sign them? No, no, no, no. But I was like, I'm sorry. Like, no, no, thank you. Like slowly walking away. Yeah. I saw, recently saw, too, like, one of my friend, my friend, Caleb, he was talking about how, like, because we're, like, someone like myself and, like, my friend Caleb are, like, such niche people on the internet. It's like, if you think it's me, it's probably me. It's most likely me, because there's not a lot of people who look like me. Yeah. But then at the same time, it's like, it doesn't, I can't hide at all. So, like, I can't wear a mask, I can't wear sunglasses, like none of that shit matters because I'm just so visible. I'm also very large and so is my fiance. So like there's really no hiding. So even I don't know

have you tried hiding. Does that work? I try to like do the mask, sunglasses hood up. But you know. And I think it kind of works, but I only think, I only remember about that like after the fact. Yeah. After something that happens. And then I'm like, okay, like it's not worth it anymore. I feel that. Yeah. What's something, what's like the coolest thing that you feel like you've done since like getting like your art out there and having it be platformed what would you say is like the most memorable thing you've done so many things oh gosh i don't know probably like i mean on this tour we played like at the greek oh that's we played at red rocks red rocks was in i think red rocks was like a really i've never i've never actually been there but the view looks insane i mean i had never

been there either but it was like so wild was it because to see it during the day is like one thing there's no people there but then you like walk out on stage and there's it's It's like full. Yeah. And it's like rocks on either side. It was beautiful. Really? It was like really bucketless moment for me.

That's so cool. Who's someone that you're really excited you got to collaborate with and who's someone that you are hoping you can eventually? Oh my gosh. Honestly, I love that Nile asked me to be on his song. Period. I wasn't really like a One Direction fan when I was younger, but I love, but I mean I like love some of the songs I'm like I go back to some of the I would like I would like I would like

buy like single songs on on iTunes but I would never like got into like full albums or I wasn't like going to the concerts but like obviously they're iconic and um yeah he played that song we went to his show because I sang with him at his show which was insane yeah and he played um the one direction song what is it called night night change night changes yeah and I was saying every word I was like oh my god this is insane. This is so sick. You're all so strange. It was amazing.

And who's someone you're hoping you can collaborate with if you would. Oh my gosh. Every single artist has just like disappeared from my brain right now. Oh my God. I feel like so many people. What if I said dead or alive? Actually. Yeah.

Yeah. Dead or alive. I mean. Oh, God. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know any artists right now. Like why are they all leaving my brain?

Oh, my God. You're like, um, who else is in one direction? Harry Styles. Maybe like scrambling. Maybe Joni Mitchell. Ooh, that'd be cool. I mean, that would be sick. That's such a quirky answer too.

I would have said something stupid. I'm with you on that. You were never a fan girl? Were you ever a fan girl at all? Just in general. Not really. Really? I was obsessed with like Dylan O'Brien.

You think you're better than me? You're not. I had like, I had like actor crushes. I was not like into musicians. I was obsessed with Dylan O'Brien in like middle school. That was like, too big teen wolf fan. No. No?

What about Maze Runner? Yeah, Maze Runner. Oh, that's where you got into it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. Teen Wolf, like, I don't even know if I won't. Did I watch the Teen Wolf? I watched the beginning of it, but that was pretty much it.

I kind of fell off on that one. Yeah. Did you have any favorite shows? Do you have any favorite shows that you like? Like series like that or anything? Currently or like when I was younger. Just in general that you were a big fan of? I mean, I love Tana Montana, Victoria.

I Carly. What are the other ones? That's so funny. You're like, you have no music fan girl crushes even though you're a musician, but you have a lot of actor ones. I know. I don't know why. That's so funny. Honestly, I, what's your sign?

I'm a Virgo. Me too. Oh my God. I fucking knew it. Can I just say, when's your birthday? I smelled that shit on you. September 18th. Oh, nice.

Mine's the 21st. Of September? The 21st night of September. Look at us. We're literally days apart. I know. You and I remember this. Literally.

eat peanut butter and chili. I fucking knew you were a Virgo. I had a feeling because you're so particular about things and you're like, no, not really. And I'm like, that's a Virgo if I ever did any other dream actor crushes besides Dylan O'Brien? Oh, that was the big one growing up. I can't really. I only remember that because in sixth grade we did like an art project and we had to like pick a photo of a famous person to like draw and I picked him. So I made like a huge photo of his face and I wish I still had it but I don't think I do that's honestly really funny when I was I was a big Jonas brother girl when I was like younger how old are you 25 what I have to think about that I just turned 25 so I'm like I don't know how old I am okay I'm 29 but like when I was I'm a million years older than you

apparently and TikTok years especially but um I feel like TikTok years are like dog years like when like every year I have is 17 of a normal person I don't know every time I talk to people they're like damn when my birthday just passed, I have never had more people in my life be like, this bitch is 29. shit. I thought you were like, they were like, damn. Like I'm going to be in a retirement home. So my God. Anyways, I was a really big Jonas brother fan as a girl. And like when I was in eighth grade, we had to do that like home project where you have like a fake baby and shit. Oh yeah, yeah. Like the flower baby or whatever. And I named mine after Nick Jonas. Like my named my baby after him. And I was like,

and it's funny because they had like fake marriages or like single parents in my class. And like I had I was married to a kid. Yeah. And I was like, well, here's the tea on this. I'm going to name it, Nicholas. I don't know what you're thinking, but that's what this baby's name is. That's so funny. And he was just kind of like, okay.

Yeah. But yeah, I was super into the Jonas Brothers. And I did meet them like recently. Yeah, I met them. Was that last year? Yeah, last year I made content with them about Waffle House. Love that. Because I went to see them on Broadway when they did like their little Broadway

stint. And so like I took my sister. and my agent Alex, who was also a huge showswether fan, like the three of us, we went and saw, like, their first couple albums, which was, like, those just spoke to me as... Oh, sick. Oh, my God. It was so fun. It was a blast. And, like, I did it with Seatkeek.

Yeah. And for my brand-to-at Seek, I used this video that my sister and I made as fans when I was in middle school to, like, try and win tickets to their concert. But my sister's a dumbass and doesn't know that the tri-state area literally means three states on the East Coast, and we live in California. And so she's like, we got just, qualified because we don't live in the tri-state area. So we made that video for nothing, that being said.

I did use it. I used it in my brand deal with Seeky, and then the Jonas Brothers team reached out to me. They were like, oh, we saw your big fan. Do you want to come make content? I was like, yeah. You have to. I mean, like, how are you going to say no? Yeah, I know, for real.

I was like, I'm going to need to do that for sure. I just rewatched Camp Rock. Oh, you did? Yeah. It's so bad. It's so funny. It's so funny. It's, I was, I hadn't really watched it since I was like,

younger and I was like what's going on here? I know and the hair crazy the straightened hair great you're out of your mind I know I know a flat iron hated to see Joe John is coming I know a heat protected hated to see that bitch coming yeah oh my gosh that is so funny but you were like not really a fan girl that's crazy that's insane well let's transition into our topic so we're going to unpack why some men hold women to impossible perfectionist standards when it to dating and relationships. Because obviously you have written many a song about dating and relationships. How is it writing songs when you pull from real life? Like is it is it is it, do you find it to be therapeutic? Do you find it to be? Oh yeah. It's like my journal entries. It helps me like process things

definitely. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Okay. Period. Do you ever have that feeling where like you write something and you're like, oh, this is a little personal? But then it's received so well that you're like, well, I guess it's out there. Yeah, I definitely have those moments. But it's, you usually. You that stuff tends to be received really like better yeah or not better but like people like when it's authentic authentic and just like I'm just being open totally honest so yeah I love that well now we're going to talk about that because you do detail in many of your songs about like I guess shit man yep shit man shit man I do yeah okay so for this first one okay let's say do girl this bread's getting in my face. She's all up in my grill. Okay. In this video, a woman reposted in response to it and now

deleted TikTok where a guy is warning other men that, quote, when you're talking to a girl and she says she doesn't want children, that's the biggest red flag. He goes on to say that this is the biggest red flag in the world because, quote, she's living for herself more than she is for her future offspring. In the world, like the biggest red flag in the world. Yeah, like what if I'm a world? Yeah, what if I kill you then why? I feel like that's worse. Like, I feel like if I came to your house and I killed you, that would be a lot worse. Yeah. Than me telling you, I don't think I want kids. That's so crazy. Imagine. Dude, their gift of hyperbole is insane. The way that they're so like, that's the worst thing you could ever do. That's so crazy. Do you ever get hit on mine? Hate? Yeah, for men.

I mean, yeah? Who doesn't? Like, you know what shit? Men are just hateful. Yeah, amen. Amen. Lizzie, you know what? You're on to something with that. But this, okay, let's see this first comment says, sorry, but he's right. Women who don't want children are not for dating. I love when human men call children offspring.

Like, what are we fucking cows? Like, they're like, well, she sired three offspring, so now we have enough milk for the rest of the winter. Like, what the fuck are we talking about? Yeah. And I feel like, like you said, that's the biggest red flag. What would you say is your biggest red flag? Other than murder.

I mean, that's a big one. It's up there. Yeah, well, that is up there and it's viable, unfortunately. Yeah. I don't know. Probably just like not listening. Yeah. That's like huge.

It's just something I've experienced so much and just like just invalidating. Like just not listening, not understanding. Totally. It's like just use your ears. It's crazy how that works, huh? It's crazy how like when you're like nice to people and you ask questions and listen to the answers, women tend to respond pretty well to that. Crazy.

It's crazy how that fucking works. Even like someone like, obviously for me, like my personal niche, I'm just swinging on awful man all the time. And you would be shocked how many times like they just automatically are like, well, see, that's why you're fucking single. I'm not single. And then they're like, well, your man's probably ugly. That's also not true.

And then they're like, well, I'm sure you treat him poorly. Well, just the goalpost keep moving, don't they? I find that to be. actually shocking that like they're like this is fine to say yeah I also don't think like specifically men on the internet and also anyone on the internet but specifically men just feel like they can say anything yeah they're just saying anything like maybe maybe you should keep that to yourself like let's bring back private thoughts like let's bring back and it's like they're behind a screen so they don't think that like exactly it's going to be that big of a deal totally but then we talk about them

on the show so yeah there you go and then I pop in and then I pop in and all of a sudden it's like, oh, okay. Like, I've said that before. I'm like, when they're like, that's just my opinion, I'm like, okay, well, you can say whatever you want. That doesn't mean it's not going to elicit a reaction. Right. That's the part that seems to shock them every time.

Yeah. Every time it's like, I'm allowed to say whatever I want, but you can't respond to me. That's not cool. So crazy. Like recently I had a guy make a whole, he's talked about me a few times. Recently, he commented on me getting engaged and he was like, he basically said that, The only two viable reasons that I would get a ring like this would be, or in general, would be that I'm lying about who I am and I'm actually probably really subservient to my man in private.

This is just like a ruse. And then the second one was that he's just with me for money. So like, he's like, those are the only two possible ways that this could have happened. So I found that to be funny because those are two insane things to say just in general about someone you don't even know, right? but I made fun of him on my like on my Instagram story and I called him a stupid bitch because he is right and he made 11 videos about me and then went live about me for three days straight and he kept saying that he was never disrespectful to me but I was disrespectful to him and I was like they're just living in delusion like what's going on I literally was like you said

that my man only loved me for money and he's like that's my opinion hey what the fuck are we talking about? Like, hey, what are we talking about? What? Hey, what are we talking about? And I even said, I even, like, made fun of what he said, because it's so stupid that it's, like, genuinely so invalid. It's not even funny. Yeah. But I was like, why is it always money that he's with me? What if he's with me for my body, too? Like, what if he's only with me for my body, then what? What if he's using me for my incredible snatch? Then what? Like, you guys are stupid. You guys don't even think. And, like, I'm not even taking it seriously. Though I'm joking about that shit. And he kept saying over and over again, like, that's just my opinion. That's, that's,

So crazy. I'm not thinking you can have an opinion on someone's personal life is actually kind of insane, but you know, that's okay. Yeah. Like men like that exist and they walk amongst us. Can you believe that? They can vote. That's crazy. Scary. Yeah, that's upsetting. That's terrifying. Have you ever had someone come back and ask you about a song? Like, hey, did you write this about me? Um, no, because all the guys that I, well, most of the guys that I write songs about, like, for example, my ex that I wrote my most recent album about, like, he's also a songwriter. And so, like, we used to, like, send songs about each other to each other. So it, like, wasn't that big of a deal.

Every time I write a song about him, he's like, I'm honored. I was like, you should be. You should be. You're all, thank you. Yeah. That's crazy. What a healthy way to process, though. Yeah.

Seems healthy. I think. I think. Or maybe it's really not. Girl, maybe it's not. No one's told me. Well, well, correct me if I'm wrong. Okay, this next comment says, well, yeah, he's right.

Why would any guy want to have a relationship with a woman if they weren't going to have kids? I mean, in case he just, like, loves her or something, probably. Like, just to have a partner in life? Yeah. I think that's more than enough, yeah. For most people in relationships, yeah. And this last one says she is not contributing to the community or society. Well.

Interesting. Well. That's an interesting take. Yeah, not contributing anything at all, literally at all. If you're not producing offspring like monkeys, then there's no point. Right. Because that's the only thing that a woman can offer to the world, apparently. Yeah, that's all we're worth at the end of the day.

That's crazy. I was like, yeah, you have someone who puts out art for a living. But no, for sure, for sure, for sure. I always joke about that too when they're like, oh, women, whenever men like that, reduce women down to body parts and they're like, oh, the world would stop turning without men. People would probably stop dying, too, but that's besides the point. I was like even whenever they referenced that, I'm like, you have no idea what women have contributed for hundreds of thousands of years because they never gave women credit for shit. So like, how are we to know?

Like you could tell me that that was invented by man, but I don't know if that's true. Yeah. I wasn't there. Right. I was like, and there's a lot of Albert Einstein's arithmetic, there's been like so many things coming out that his wife actually was responsible for most of it. And so like he's the only person people know because he. put his name on everything because they wouldn't take women seriously. Wow. And I was like, so that's actually, it's actually insane. It's like the movie Hidden Figures. Like,

those three women were responsible for getting us to space, but nobody ever heard about them until when, like, five years ago. So that's what I'm like, whenever men tell me that, I'm like, I don't know if that's true. Yeah. I don't know. And if a man told you, I don't believe him. Right. Okay, let's look at this next video. This one is, this video is a TikTok cut down from a man's podcast. Ooh, derogatory. about relationships and communication. Ugh, double derogatory. The cutdowns captioned,

this is why most women are not wife material. Okay, let's hear what he says. He says, I'm sure it's insightful. Any woman that doesn't appreciate a man or feels like they don't need a man, any woman who has uttered those words is not fit to be a wife. And he says, your role is not to challenge your husband. Roll. Huh.

Are you casting a fucking play? Roll. Your role is not to challenge. challenge your husband. Your role is to produce offspring. Right. That's your role. That's so interesting that he has a platform like that and is talking like that. I know. Whenever men are like, I should start a podcast. No, you shouldn't. I promise whatever you're going to say has already been said. Totally. They don't need to hear you add to it. They really don't. Every time men are like, I should start a podcast, that's the thought. That's the shit that comes out of their head. Yeah. And they're like,

I can't believe nobody wants to listen to the things I have to say. I'm like, bro, you're insufferable. That's probably why. That's so crazy. This is why most women are not. Okay, he says any woman that appreciate a man, does not appreciate a man. Well, see, like those are two different things. Like when they say you don't appreciate someone and you say you don't need them, like,

those are two different lines of thought. I feel like you could say, if someone doesn't feel appreciated, that's like a feeling, but it's saying like, oh, I don't need a man. I just want one. What's so bad about that? that thing. Hey, what's so bad about that? What's the worst date you've ever been on? Oh my God. That thought just came to my head. Um, let's see. Like one that stands out to you. I'm trying to think, honestly, like, I haven't been on that many dates. Like, I have been on have been good.

I mean, like, for the most part. I mean, like, I don't, the thing is, like, I moved to LA like maybe three years ago. And I have gone on like from the dating apps like maybe five dates. Okay. And maybe less honestly. Yeah. Yeah. So there's not like a high percent that percentage of like those that are going to be bad. I feel it. But I'm trying to really think. I don't know. Yeah. Some of my worst encounters with men haven't really been dates necessarily. They've kind of just been like interactions. Right. Yeah. Like sometimes when they're like they're like. like when you hate all men I'm like well I've never said that but even if I did what are you going to do about it and too that's on you but also I'm like I mean yeah like have you ever hung out with one

it's kind of easy to hate them like they kind of they kind of make it kind of easy you know what I mean like we hang out with too many cis straight men like at one point or another yeah you start to develop a real disdain for them right because they're awful like in so many ways like they're so awful in so many ways. Yeah. I feel like if I'm thinking of like one of the worst in our, I've had some pretty bad. I've had some stinkers because I used to work in sports before I did this. Oh boy. Yeah. So I worked in sports media. So I had some pretty bad ones. Yeah. One time I was training a guy at work like training him. Like I was teaching him how to do his job. That's important. Okay. Yeah. And like we we were hanging out at this point like at work for like two hours at this point. I

I was going over everything, like, Virgo, Pine Tooth Cone over and over and over again. And then halfway through, he goes, you know, you're a lot smarter than you look. And I was like, I was like, what? And he goes, you're like way smarter than you look. Like when I saw you, I was like, you know, I never would have thought that you would like know this much. See, like he could have just not said anything. Yeah, like anything at all. Like anything else.

Like you literally, yeah, you could have just like literally. Yeah, you could have just like literally. never shared that with me ever in a million years like i i didn't need that's so crazy i guess he like felt comfortable enough with you to be like i'm going to share this this with you and it's going to be received like like what and he truly like he really thought like that was the nicest thing he could have ever said to me that's so crazy and he was like i just like want to let you know and i was like oh boy okay i was like you thought i was you thought i was fucking stupid and he goes well no and I go well that's what you just said and I go you thought I was fucking stupid even though

I'm teaching you how to do your job that's weird and then it was so painfully awkward and then we just didn't talk for like the next hour damn that's tough I feel like sometimes the almost like the Incredible Hulk like I black out a little bit like in moments like that yeah and then I just make it awkward for everyone and I feel bad about it but also like I feel like it's a necessary evil He deserved it. Yeah. You know, like. Have you encountered any rude celebrities?

You don't have to tell me names, but like I've had a couple ruddies, but not too many, but mostly weirdos. I don't think so, honestly. Mostly weird people. That's who I've been encountered. I don't think so. No? No. I mean.

Well, that's good. Yeah. That's really good. I feel like kind of lucky that like all the people that I've met that I like look up to. Thankfully, have been awesome. Like super sweet. I feel that way too. The only rude encounters I've had have been at like events and stuff, but it's just been with randos. Yeah. But I will say since we were talking about the paparazzi, they're honestly really rude. I've literally never had an experience with them. Just people who take

pictures at events. Oh, at events like on red carpet. Yeah, like carpets or or like any sort of event with famous people. Yeah. Like I went to a fashion show this past fashion week in New York and I loved it. The show was awesome. And there was a big, like majestic looking tree in the middle of the room. And so like, um, people are getting photographed in front of it like by, Getty,

whatever people. And there was, like I was going up to go take a picture. Like my rep asked me to go up and take one and I was like, yeah, yeah. So I was about to go. And then this girl kind of,

she just kind of stood in front of me. And then she was dressed like a ballerina. Like literally she had like point shoes on and everything. And she started like dancing. Like she started like doing like pirouettes and stuff. And I was like, I mean, go ahead queen.

Like she started doing it and I was like period queen. Like I was just hyphen her. Because I didn't know who she was. I figured they were going to take pictures, but nobody was taking a picture of her and someone was just recording, like, I think a friend. Yeah. And one of the photographers goes, hey, go do that over there. Take that shit and go over there. Oh my God. I said. Holy shit. And she was like, oh, okay, she just left. And he goes, go on. You can go in front now. And then I'm uncomfortable because I'm like, just watched you yell at that girl. Holy shit. And he's like, anyways, go ahead. Yeah, no, go ahead.

go ahead. Wait, I actually had an experience a couple years ago at a fashion week event, which I, like, this was a couple years ago. So it was like not, I was not anyone who anyone cared about. And I was with my like more famous friends at the time. Yeah. And they were like, okay, like, we're going to take pictures in front of this thing. So like one by one, I was with two of my friends. And like one by one, they went up. And I was like, okay, like, I'll be next. And then the photographer was like just walked away after the two. And I was like, okay. Yay. Totally. Yeah. Love that. Thank you. You know, it's so funny. Lizzie, I have multiple stories like that.

You, and you wouldn't believe. And honestly, they'll never give a fuck about me because I'm just a dick out online. And, you know, when they, my carpet call times are at 12 noon. Like, everyone normally comes at 6pm. That's a fun fact for you all. When they make you come before, when the sun is still up, you don't mean anything. They might give me a tray and tell me to wait tables after. But they, I remember one time I went to something and I was like, I had just,

gotten there, but principal talent had already started walking. So like after that, I could drop dead in front of them and they don't give a fuck, right? So like I was still very new at the times. It was like a couple years ago. And so I still walked. Obviously, my publicist was like, oh, no, no, you can still walk. And then there's only two photographers. It's a really small carpet. It's like not big at all. There's only fucking two. I go, I walk up. The first guy holds up the camera and he goes, oh oh my god i go wait what like he like dead ass like looked me in the eyes and goes wait that's so shocking yeah shocking oh yeah that's how they treat people like me at those carpets like holy shit i was like oh love that no for sure um i'm going to talk about that in therapy

but i remember like it was one guy and he was the main one and then there was one girl and so the girl she just knew who I was because she follows me. And she was like, oh, I'll take, I want to take a picture of you. And I was like, okay. And she took a picture of me. And then the other guy was like, all right. And then he took one singular photo of me. And get this, that's one of the worst getty photos I've ever taken.

And get this. When you Google my name, there's the picture that shows up, this is not a joke. The picture that shows at the very first one on Google is a fathead of just my head from that night. No fucking way. The way that there's so many other pictures of me that I look a lot better. And the one, the first picture that pops up is a fat head, a literal fat head that's like a cardboard cut out. But like just my head. And I don't know who made it. But if I find you, I'm going to beat the shit out of you. That's a threat. That's an open one. Oh my God. Holy shit. So I was like, I love how that story not only follows me because it scarred me,

also because it's on my Google page. Right. Wow. Sometimes those carpets are intimidating, though. They can be very overwhelming. I get so nervous before and then like I don't, I kind of black out. I never know what to do with my hands. Yeah, the hands is a big one.

I know, especially if you have really uncomfortable outfit on or shoes or something like that. Yeah. What's the most intimidating carpet you've ever walked? I don't do it a lot because I don't like it that much. but I feel like the first time I think the first time I walked a carpet it was at the Spotify Best New Artist Party last year yeah nice and it was terrifying I mean I was just like I've never done it before and no one was like telling me what to do so I was your first carpet ever I think so yeah that's crazy you're so famous that's crazy think maybe I'm remember I don't know like a time is weird

and I don't remember anything that's ever happened to me yeah But I think that was my first one, yeah. Yeah, and it's really overwhelming. It's just like, everyone is just splashing in your face. And I'm like, what? And they're like, okay, move over. Yeah, they like, want you to like rotate like a rotisserie chicken. I think the hardest one I've ever, like the most intimidating one I've ever walked was the Oscars carpet.

Oh God. Yeah. Which again, I walked at 12 noon, obviously, way before anyone important. And then they also like didn't even take the plastic off the carpet when I walked, which is hilarious. Like, they were like, that's, that bitch isn't stepping. on the nice carpet. So I was like walking like shuffling on like it's almost like trash bag material. Which is insane. Which is insane. And like they take pictures from every single angle. Like I saw pictures of like my four like like super close like super tight on my face like almost like cutting my

forehead off. I saw some of my hands. I saw some of my feet. I saw some from the side. So weird. I know it's horrifying. I've never been to like a big one like that. I've never haven't like been to the Grammys or anything like that yet. Really? Yeah. You're just like, eh. My thing is that I want to go only if I'm nominated for something. Just like, I don't know, it's so, you have to like pay to go. Like even if you're like invited, you still have to pay. And it's like, oh, to sit at the table and everything. Yeah. Like, I don't need to do that. You're like, it's okay. Like, it's okay. I'll, I'll be okay. I like to watch. I like to like see the same. All the outfits. Yeah. But I don't need to go until there's a reason to go, you know.

Tea. That's the Virgo. I feel like that's such a Virgo thing. Last year, or was it last year? No, it was this year. I went to a Grammy party. I went to the Stephen Tyler one. I went to the Stephen Tyler one, which was really cool. But I remember it was a horrifying experience in a lot of ways because I was sitting at the table.

And there was a guy at the table who I did not know, but like clearly he's somebody. I just, I don't know who he is. And he was getting like increasingly more drunk like as the night, you know, open bar and like that many egos in one room. is dangerous. Oh yeah. It gets crazy at times. And so like he's like getting more drunk, more drunk. And there's like a girl sitting next to him.

Like it's like me, her and then him. Yeah. And the girl next to him like he clearly likes that girl. Like he clearly he wants to hook up with this girl. And she's not biting like at all. Like she's just like, like the whole night like closed tight lips smiles the whole fucking night. And I'm just ignoring him because me and my fiance are sitting there together.

And like at one point we eat our dinner. Like they bring the food or whatever. And then he wolfs his down in 10 seconds because he's starving because I'm assuming because he's drunk. And then he's like, I need more. I need fucking more food. Like he's like telling me later, hey, get me some more. Like he's being really rude to waitstaff everyone. And then after probably like five or 10 minutes after that, I'm like facing this way.

And my fiance's face like looking back at me like this. And he like reaches across my plate and like grab something. And I turn and look and that guy was trying to eat the food off my fucking plate. I'm so dead serious. Like with his fork, he's putting it in my chicken. So cough in my mouth, why don't you? And then he's like, he's mushing up like my fucking food. And he's trying to eat it.

He's like leaning over two people. What? Yeah, what? That's so weird. That's so weird. And where we're at, Doug, what is the fucking matter with you? That's so crazy. I truly was like, I'm like, Zoe de Chanel's hosting and you're doing this shit.

Like, this is crazy. That's so why. And my, my fiancee was like, what are you doing? That's not yours. Like he's a child. And then he was like, oh, I thought we fucking knew her. He's talking to that girl. He's not addressing me or my fiance.

And he's like, I thought we fucking knew her. Do we not fucking know her? And that girl's not even saying anything because she's so humiliated. So my fiance goes like, well, we don't know you. So don't fucking do that again. And he like, he like puts his fork back on his plate. And then he was so, it was so awkward and so uncomfortable. And like when we left, my, my fiance was like, you're really fucking embarrassing, by the way.

And he never apologized to me. That's so weird. Yeah, so rude. And people are strange at those things. They are. They are. Men are weird when they get drunk. Don't I fucking know it.

Don't I fucking know it. And especially when they have egos that big, too. It's like, oh, my God. It's a fucking perfect storm. Okay. Let's go back to these comments. This one says, her role is also not to ever try to define a man either. She needs to stay in her lane and out of his.

tried to define a man. Like, what does that even mean? I don't know. That's what I'm like, like, what are they even talking about? You guys don't even need us for this conversation. Go circle jerk each other. I don't care.

What is going on? I don't know. They're fucking insane. I feel like, like you said, they just say things. Right. Like, we're just saying shit at this point. I can say anything. At this point, I can just say anything at all.

And I'd be like, I don't know. I saw it somewhere. So it has to be true. Jesus. And this next one says, it seems that women are the ones saying they don't need a man. I don't see men stating. they don't need a woman.

I think these women do it as a flex of their independence. That's some toxic shit. Oh, okay. That's so toxic to be independent. Right. Like what? So toxic to think for yourself. That's honestly sad that men need women.

Like, you can't be by yourself? And they're like, men aren't saying they don't need women. They say that shit all the time. What are you talking about? They're always like, keep it up and we're not going to marry you. Okay. God, don't threaten me with a good time. Shit.

That's why I think it like, who cares? Hey, who cares? People are dying. I don't give a fuck. Like, what are you talking about? I know, I agree with you. That's, it's so toxic to think for yourself. Lizzie, don't ever think for yourself.

That's so toxic. Okay, I won't. Ever. Okay, this says since they feel that way, they can live in a desert without resources. See what? See how quick they will sober up. What? Huh?

I think they're saying. Okay, he's saying the way I have to like, I can't analyze it. Yeah. I think he's saying, since women are so confident that they don't need men, if you put them in the desert without resources, see how quickly they figure out that they need a man.

What's he going to do? Right. Like, what the fuck? We have no resources and we're going to start. We're in the desert. We're both going to die. We'll just die side by side. Like, what the fuck?

I, did you ever see that shit on TikTok when they're like, oh, men? She clocked out. That's okay. Her master is gone. That's why that's fucking spider. Did you ever see that thing on TikTok when men were getting mad? Because someone interviewed women and they asked, like,

would you rather be stuck in the woods with a bear or a man? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And you saw a man got very offended by that. You're like, you'd rather die? I'm going to die either way. At least if a bear kills me once I'm dead, I'm dead. I don't know what the fuck you're going to do after I die.

And what you're going to do before that, you know what I'm saying? Right. So I made a video about it once, but I was like, because then, a man countered that by saying, like, would you rather be stuck in the desert with a woman or a dog? And then was only asking men, and the men were like, a dog, a woman would slow me down. Like, women don't know how to survive, blah, blah, blah. The way that men like that think they're bare grills is crazy to me. You wouldn't survive.

You wouldn't survive either. Girl, and men are so, like, men like that are so proud that they, like, they would die and die quickly because you're unwilling to, like, put it down for even a second. Totally. I was like, have you ever, that's not true at all. Like men who say, I would survive in the desert just like this comment. I literally said they think they're like Stanley Yelnats. Like they would just off sheer grit and perseverance. They would survive off the, a generational curse from Madam Seroni is how they would survive.

That's not you. Like, that would not be you. You would die so quickly in the desert. It's not even funny. I would too. But like, I'm not walking around telling people. Right. Like I don't think that I would survive.

I'm being realistic. I'm being honest. okay, I would die and by my own hand, because I'm not going to die slowly. Right. So like I would go out on my terms. That's what I'm doing. But like when I was like, have you ever asked a misogynistic man for directions? Like when they get lost?

Yeah, you're not surviving in the desert. Like, you're not fucking doing that. You can't even like give their dad a hug. Like you're not going to survive in the desert. What the fuck? You got so many demons. It's not even funny. Starvation and thirst is the least of your worries.

Yep. Do you think you would survive in a zombie apocalypse? I think about this all the time, actually. I ask every guess this. That's so funny. I think about this all the time because I love like apocalypse movies, movies, TV shows, books. Like my favorite author is Stephen King. I read all of his stuff.

He writes a lot about that stuff. And I think about it all the time. I feel like I could probably survive for like a couple days, maybe a week. I'd like to think that I would be able to survive because I've read so many. I've just consumed so much media about it that I like feel like I would know what to do now. But also I could be dead in the first hour. You know, like I really don't know until it happened. You're so agnostic about it.

You're such a fucking burgo, it's crazy to me. You're like, but also at the same time, because you got to be right no matter what. I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that. That's so funny. You love end of the world stuff. Do you like horror? I'm a big horror fan?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your favorite horror movie? Okay. see I only really read horror books okay what's your favorite book then I mean the stand by Stephen King is literally about like a um a disease that kills like 99% of the population and I read it when COVID was happening and I was like oh this might be like too close to home like oh actually I'm scared now yeah all of his books are so good that's cool yeah what's the scariest movie you've ever watched oh gosh I feel like um oh what's that movie called do you watch horror movies like if I

describe this movie would you know what I'm talking about? Maybe. It's about this guy who like they like he's a writer and he moves his family into this house where this murder happened but he doesn't tell his family that it happened there and then he finds like these videotapes in the attic. Oh is it insidious. Is that what it's called? Wait, no. What's the one? No, wait. What's the one? What is the one? Yes, sinister. Sinister. That's what it is. Yeah. It's the one with the thing on the eye. That's what the movie poster looks like. Look it up. The movie looks like. I don't know anything about that, but that's the movie. Is it scary?

I've never watched that one. It was, I hate, yeah, no, I don't like it. The scariest one I've ever watched, I think, is hereditary. Oh, I tried to watch that. And then I said, no, I can't. Get into this, Lizzie. I saw it in the fucking theaters. And that was my sister's fault because she's an A24 horror, which I get.

I mean, I love A24. Me too. But she was, she convinced us to go watch it. She was like, no, let's go watch it. It's supposed to be really good. And I was like, is it scary, though? Because it sounds kind of scary. She's like, no, it's not that bad.

I'm not even kidding. Like after, and if you haven't seen it by now, have you what? I know. I know. I know. You know what happens. Okay. Don't get mad at me, but this is a spoiler.

The movie's like eight years old. The right after the daughter gets beheaded and then he's just like sitting in horror for like however, it felt like 40 minutes. And then when he drives home, like that entire sequence, when he drives home and he goes in the car, it's like all slow and shit. I told my sister, I go, how much longer is this movie? I am not going to make it. Like I felt like I was going to have a heart attack.

And I was so fucking afraid when I went home. I can't imagine seeing it in the theater and not being able to stop it and walk away. It's like not being able to leave. I feel like it's just happening to me. And I can't stop. No, it was horrifying. I stayed up for hours. You know, I watched like a thousand happy things and nothing was fixing it.

And I had, I was so scared of that movie for like a week. Wait, I just remembered a movie that's not technically a horror movie. It's called Eye Origins. Okay. You don't know the movie? No. Okay. Well, my ex made me watch it with him because it's like his favorite movie apparently.

Okay. And he didn't like really tell me anything about it. But he was like, it's the best movie ever. And I was like, okay, sure. And we were watching it and it was like fine and cool. And then there's an elevator scene and they're in the elevator. And the elevator gets stuck. And the platform is like up here.

So he like climbs up. Yeah. And then he's like pulling her up. And then the elevator falls. And it chops him in half. Yeah. And I was like, you couldn't have warned. me about this. I had to, we had to pause the movie. I was like having a panic shock. I was like,

you're so mean. I was like, I can't do this. Like, why did you make me watch this? I don't think I can finish it. Yeah, dude. I, yeah. There haven't been many. I wonder if there have been movies. I feel like there's been a movie I've watched where I'm like, I bailed like halfway. I'm like, I can't do it. Like, it affected me physically. I was like, it was, I was not okay. I feel that. It's like it stays with you for fucking ever. Yeah. I know. I feel like. Yeah, there's not many movies. That's how I feel about Hereditary. I feel like it stayed with me for fucking ever. I have not been able and I haven't been able to watch it since. Like yeah. Sometimes when people tell me like, oh my comfort movies are movies like and they tell me a horror

movie like that, I'm like, what? Side-eye. Okay. Not for sure. I'm a little afraid of you. I love your idea about the zombie apocalypse. Like you're like, maybe, maybe not. Because I feel like I just want to wait and see. I know. I mean like, yeah, I don't know. I think. feel like I know enough by reading all these things about it that I could probably do it. I feel you. My fiancé is like convinced he would survive. I think he would too.

Sure. I just feel like I don't have any desire to. Right. Yeah, that's also a factor. Yeah. Like I think about like a quiet place, right? And I'm like, I don't want to live in the aftermath of that. Yeah.

When my phone dies, I will too. It's over. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm done. Like when my phone dies. When my candle dies, I'm out. Like, there's really no, there's, there's really no need for me to be here anymore.

No electricity to charge my phone. No need to be here. Yeah, I also, like, don't have a skill that could be useful in a post-apocalyptic world. You know? Like, I'm not, like, an electrician or, like, an engineer or something. Like, I can't, like, get the water to, I can't, you know, I can't do anything, like, important. I can play piano for you guys. Girl, you would be like, what's that fucking, what's her name?

What's Rachel Ziegler's name in the New Hunger Games? Lucy Gray, you'd be like her. That would be you. And I would be a bitch who dies early because I'm annoying. They'd be like, kill her. She's annoying. You'd be loved. You'd be loved by everyone.

Okay, great. You'd be loved by everyone. I'll take that. Oh my God, that's so tea. Okay, yeah, you should be her for Halloween. Oh, my God. Yes, sweet. I love Rachel.

Love that. I love Rachel too. I've met her one time. One time? Same. Yeah, she's really, she was really sweet. She's so great. Her and her boyfriend are really sweet.

Yeah. But they, I also beat them in Uno. So, yeah. I beat the shit out of them in Uno. So take that. Rachel Ziegler. Just kidding. Love you girl.

Anyways, you should definitely be Lucy Gray for Halloween. That would be. That would be sick. Yeah. So technically you do have a skill that would be beloved. I guess, yeah. I don't. They'd be like, that's the best you can, I said, best I can do is jokes.

I mean, you guys have any men you hate? We need some humor. Yeah. You know, we can't all be. sadness. I know. I was like, you guys need a jester? I'll do that. Yeah, I'll do that for you. Okay, just to, we'll close us out. I'm like, speaking of horror, let's ask an advice question. But I am very curious. First off, I want to tell you, I think you're an incredible artist. I really do. And as I have already disclosed, I've been a very big fan for a while of your music.

But I can't wait to see where you go. Like, I just, I see nothing but. the sky's the limit for you. Thanks. But I am very curious if you could give any advice to any aspiring, whether it's like songwriters, producers, or singers, artists in general, who are maybe trying to make it now or maybe they're trying to platform their music through social media. And obviously, that was a huge catalyst for you too, other than your talent, obviously. What would you say is your best piece of advice for them? I usually always say the same thing because it just feels like it really resonates with me always just be yourself yeah because as as cliche as it is it's like there's only one of you yeah and that's what's going to make you stand out and there's no point in like

trying to mimic other people or like what works for other people yeah like what works for other people definitely may not work for you and it's like I learned that the hard way by doing what I thought other people should do. Yeah. And then realizing that that wasn't me and that I should be doing what feels right to me. And yeah, just like being yourself is what's going to make you stand out. Love. Yeah. Period. Jelly. Oh, one final advice question. What advice do you have for songwriters specifically if they're experiencing, you know, writers block or maybe they're lacking inspiration, but they want to be able to write like how you write or in the same vein, right, as intimate. Like, what would you say is your best piece of advice for them?

I think just what works for me is giving it time and space for the inspiration to come, not forcing it, and also just like listening to artists who really inspire you. And like I've been listening to a lot of Joni Mitchell recently. And it's like that's really been heavily influencing my writing. And it's like it's gotten me out of a writer's block. And it's just really, yeah, I've just listened to people that inspire you. and give it time. Don't force it. Love. Period. Thank you. Lizzie McAlpine, aka Lucy Gray. I'm so, I'm genuinely so honored to have had you on the show. I think you're fantastic.

And I can't wait to see you at the Grammys. Because when you go, it's going to be for a really good reason. When you see me there, you'll know. Period. I love that. And thank you all so much for joining us on this episode of the comment section. And thank you to my amazing guest, Lizzie McAlpine. You all already know who the fuck she is. but for those that maybe are living under a rock, where can they find you? Everywhere, Spotify, Apple Music, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Twitter, everywhere.

Everything under the sun. And I cannot recommend Lizzie's music enough. And I know it was weird that I said that I listened to so much of it. That's not weird? Why is that weird? Because you're here, Lizzie, and sometimes people are weird about that. I love it.

I'm a huge fan. Like, genuinely, I'm a grassroots day one fucking fan. Yeah, the deep. cut of that EP. Amen. Period. Yeah. And again, where the fuck were y'all at? So make sure y'all go stream all of Lizzie's music. Make sure you fucking go see her on tour. You're going on tour. Yeah, in Europe. Love. Okay. European listeners. If you want. Wait, you can plug your tour, right? Sure. Yeah. Have you announced yet? Oh, yeah. It's been announced. Okay, period. Um, yeah, I leave. The first show is the 13th. Love. Right? Her not even knowing. I don't know. Of October. So in a couple weeks. And,

We're going all over. Period. Be there or B square. It's going to be great. I like the really vague details. I'll be there. I don't know anything. I just show up and play.

Period. That's all you need to do. It's going to be great. Yeah, we love that. Make sure you all go stream Lizzie's music everywhere. Go see her on tour and make sure you follow her on everything at Lizzie McAlpine. You already know who the fuck she is. I don't know why I'm plugging her like you don't.

But thank you all so much for joining us. Thank you to my amazing guests. Don't forget new episodes of the comments section come out every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms or you can watch the video for free. and exclusively on Spotify for the one billionth time. It's on Spotify, okay? Where's the video on Spotify? Where can you stream the audio everywhere?

Where's the video on Spotify? Thank you so much, again, for tuning into this episode. Thank you to Miss Lizzie, the jelly to my peanut butter, and I'll see you next week. Okay, love you, bye.