The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - UNDERWEAR ON MY FACE *NOT CLICKBAIT* | Drew Afualo ft. Chris Olsen | THE COMMENT SECTION EP 16

Episode Date: June 1, 2022

[video available on Spotify] Drew has Chris on this week as they talk about the objectification of men versus women online and in real life scenarios.  Drew: https://linktr.ee/drewafualo Chris: https://www.tiktok.com/@chris Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The antithesis of catcalling that I've experienced is men saying the, the, the gay F word to me in public. And there have been times when, like, someone will say it driving by in their car. And I'll agree. I'm just like, yes. Correct. Ding, ding, babes. How'd you know? Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your girl, Drew, your favorite, your one and only.

always and today I have one of my favorite people on the internet to ever exist the king of TikTok himself Chris Olson Oh my god Wow I didn't even I didn't even have all those titles for myself I make it a habit to suck off every single one of my guess I make it habit

Because I do it metaphorically and now I'm going to do it physically You know what I mean? Yeah there's only a few issues I see with that Not that we need to name them No it's okay We don't need to talk about it. Yeah, it's so, right. Wow, I'm in for more than I even knew today in this little yellow chair. I'm sweating.

We have a giant fan right here. We have a giant fan because I said before this, I will. One thing about me is I'm going to sweat. One thing about me? I'm a sweat. I'm going to sweat. One thing about me, girl? I'm a sweat.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just means our bodies are working. That's what I'm saying. Body positivity. Normalized sweating. Normalized sweating. Normalized ass sweat. And I've always said that.

You know what? I stand by that. And I've said that since day one. Out of the womb, normalize, ask, what my first three words? There you go. So, what did you ask me? Honestly, I'm just such a fan of it. I was sucking you off.

Oh, my God. And I'm, as you were. And now, is it my turn? Do you consent? I am also such, such a fan. Ever since you graced the screens of all of our four you pages. I think every single person, well, if you're watching this for sure. Yeah.

But truly all of us, you just like popped onto the scene. I'm trying, girl. Also at a time that I feel like, I feel like a lot of people around the time that I blew up, it was like the golden age of TikTok creators blowing up all at once. Oh, yeah. It was deep quarantine. There were so many people blowing up at once. And then it kind of slowed down.

I would say after that, it was really, it was like a lot harder to break through the mold and become like a huge creator. but like here she is. Oh, stop. Here she is world. You took the world by storm. I'm like, oh my God. Okay, fine.

We can talk about me. That's fine. Continue on. That's fine. You want to talk about me? That's fine. Yeah, but I mean,

it's because you were just talking about things that, in such a way that had not been done and that needed, uh, that needed to be heard. You're so sweet. Stop. Oh my God. Slay the world. Men all over are quaking now.

They're so upset that you happen to blow up. I know. I'm truly like a terror. You're a terror. Can you. Can you believe how many people are scared of you? No, I truly can't. To this day.

They think about you all the time. I'd be living in there. Rent free. You are living in people's heads. Studio apartment up there. I would say you have a one bedroom at this point. I've upgraded. I upgraded for sure.

Like the amount, there are people who love you and you live in their heads, but like the amount of people who are just, who go about their days, like, waiting for that notification that you've stitched a video. Or even, like, tweeted back at them. I know. my, even my tweets too. Even the tweets. I don't have a Twitter, but I like popped onto your Twitter for the first time because I have a little lurk account.

I was like, oh my gosh. She's living on Twitter. Yeah, that's where I run wild. I run free. You, that's where like it's flawless over there. The hinges are absolutely off. Yeah. Absolutely.

Like, you know, we're like, we're so, you're so, like, directed on TikTok and it's so, like, you're so direct. You have such a way with your words. Twitter is just like, watch the. out. Whatever thought pops into my head, you're going to say it. Everyone's going to see it. Everyone's going to see it.

Everyone's going to suffer. I'm going to make sure everyone deals with it. I'm going to make it everybody's problem. Yeah. Whatever I have. As you should. But it's also, yes, the amount of men who are scared that you're going to make a stitch about them, but the amount that want you to and that you don't is like almost the more

powerful move to me. It's like, I see you keep trying to get me to give you a little bit of like my clout. No, babe. No. Blow up on your own. Good luck though. Yeah, good luck. I don't think people who work at the cinema.

Right. I don't think they're... I don't think they're buying a ticket. They're not growing in an audience, I don't think. No, my God. I don't think anyone's bought a ticket. I don't think five guys' workers really do that. Right.

I don't think they're very good at that. Right. What would I know, though? That's actually the one time that someone made like a full... Maybe not the one time, but the one time I saw it where someone made a full, like, hate video about me. Oh, yeah. It makes you want to say something.

Initially, you're like, I'm ready to clap back. But then I was like, it makes him even more of a fucking loser. Yeah, literally. If he made this and I didn't even see it, babe. Yeah, it's shouting into the void. Granted, I'm telling you all right now, I did see it. It upset me a lot. But, you know what?

We're honest around here. And we're honest in this room. And nothing's wrong with that. In this room, I felt honesty as soon as I stepped in. They were like pouring out of me. Exactly. But like, my thought is like, if I don't say anything to you, this just makes a makes this video even more sad.

Oh yeah. I stay starving people out. Yeah. Yeah. Because then he made follow up videos. Oh yeah. Because it was his first time like getting a lot of views. He was like, oh, let me keep using Chris's name.

And like, right. That's happened to me. You got to use my name. Right. Of course. Sometimes they'll put me in the thumbnail. Like they'll put my face in the thumbnail because they know it'll make people watch it. And that's a fan edit.

Yeah. That's what I said. That's a fan of. Am I not in BTS? Like my God. You made a cap cut edit of me and you're telling me that's not a fan? Didn't someone even almost. make like a velocity edit of you. Yeah, they did.

It was like a hate video at the same time. Yeah, and they picked a really good picture of me. And to that I say thank you. I mean, all of the photos are good photos. And honestly, speaking of, that's a perfect transition actually into our topic for today. Because today we're going to talk about the objectification of men and women. Thank God. Right? I'm saying, and we're going to talk about both. I don't want to hear it. What about men? What about men's rights? What about men's wrong? I support women's rights and I support women's wrongs. And as we all should.

That's what I'm saying. That does not translate to men though. No. Let it be known. Not in this world. No. No. And it can't.

Too many people are out here already supporting men's wrongs. Always. They don't need. They're living men's wrongs, honestly. They're in trenching men's wrongs. Yeah. Fan behavior for men's wrongs. So what are your like, what's your knee jerk reaction when I talk about objectification of men and women?

Honestly, it's like, it's well obviously we we center in society a lot around like how women are very consistently objectified but I remember seeing a video about like the running one

oh yeah the running one yeah so it was like it was a girl running down like the west side highway in New York and she was like god the men here are like so hot I'm living for it and then a guy stitches it and is like what are you doing objectifying me just kidding it's not a big deal. And I was like,

initially, I'm like, yes, yes, you're on a good point there. You're on a good point there. Like, yes, we shouldn't,

we shouldn't, there's honestly a lot of times that I feel like women can get sometimes a free pass on objectifying men. Yeah. Just because it's not really,

they could do. It's, yeah, yeah, right. It's like, and it's not really focused on like no one's,

like, it's not pointed. Right. It's not like violent in its very nature or aggressive. No. It's more so just like,

admiration. Yes, yes. I honestly think like it's it's so interesting how we like talk about types in general a lot of the time in society. It's like people objectify in the way of like men being like I want like a five two girl with nine foot tall energy who weighs 12 pounds but it's also thick. Yeah, and I'm like, big titty's big ass, no stomach. No stomach. I swear to God if I see a stomach. And at the end of the day, I'm like, around the topic of types, why do we even feel the need to communicate them? On the show. Who do you need? Nothing but a show.

Right. Why do you need to even tell people your type and like, and just like kind of like pigeonhole everyone, your idea of what a woman should be or a man at this point? Yeah. So I don't know. For objectification as a whole, I'm like, I'm half like I understand it. What did you bring up before this podcast? videos of men crushing watermelons. Like, I'll be on my knees for that.

Listen. Okay. We're in honesty for that. Okay. And guys, just don't tell anyone that. That's between us. Keep it to yourself. That's between us.

I'll be on my knees for that. But at the same time, the voice memo that plays over that is being like, Chris, get the fuck up. Because I know I should not be on my knees for no man. For no man. For no man. Especially not one with a watermelon between his legs, babe. But like, make it my head.

But like, do I want to be the fruit? Okay, maybe. But like, maybe. I don't know. Should we turn on the fan? No, no, no. Anyway, yeah, like, I get, I get. It's a fine balance.

I see what you're saying. It's a fine balance because at the same time, I'm like, maybe like none of us should objectify people. Ever. Unless you're in that kind of relationship with them. Where it's like consensual in that sense. Yeah. I think it's like what you said,

how men and women, it varies. Yes. And like when you were talking about types, that's a really good point. I've talked about that before. Yeah. As when you see terrible men who tend to objectify, right? When they describe a type, it's all about looks.

When you ask women, they're like, someone who's nice. Someone who's literally nice to me. That'd be great. I would love someone who doesn't emotionally manipulate me. If that's cool with y'all. If there is anyone out there who fits that one criteria, Yeah, we're set. Hit me up.

I don't care what you look like. If there's anything, like, I don't know, maybe have a job, ambition. Right, right. Be nice, respectful, not a bigot. I feel like that's more than enough for me. Maybe, like, take me on a date once. They don't even get to looks yet. No.

I need to make sure you're not rotten on the inside before I even entertain entering a relationship with you. Where I think that lends towards obviously patriarchy and, like, male, female gays. and I think a lot of times objectification is never for the women. Like, that doesn't make them feel good. And we've told them that many times. Right, right. They tend to ignore it.

Because the argument is always like, it's a compliment. To who, babe? To who? And I always think they're like, well, why else would you go out just like that? Because I want to. Right. Y'all want to talk about rights, right? The right to put on pants.

Yeah, I want to look in the, the right to put on pants. I want to look in the fucking. and like live for that. You know what I mean? And I always think too, like, do you have any idea how long it takes to get ready sometimes? For some women who like do a full B, like glam hair, everything, they look and feel their best? Right. You think they're doing that for you and you work at Staples?

At Staples. Sears even. Like I just think Coles. Get your Coles cash now. Coles cash. She'd probably rather have Coles cash than be objectified. Then be objective. It's like to do an hour and a half of like glam.

Yeah. For the man who was like waiting on a doorstep that you just happened to walk by. I knew you were going to be here. That's why I got glammed today. You know what? You're always out here. You're always out here. And I got ready just for you.

I got ready just for you. I got ready just for you. I'm so glad you're here. And you know what? I'll be the first to say it. If a woman did that, more power to her. There goes. If she was just doing it for that man, like, slay.

But I'm going to, I'm going to guess. I'm going to hypothes. For one second. As an empath. As an empath. I'm sensing that's probably not it. I'm sensing that's probably not it. I'm sensing that's probably not it.

Right. And then when men are like, well, what about when we get objectified? You eat that shit up. Not every man does. Some men get uncomfortable. For example, my boyfriend really hates it. Right. But it's more so because with him it gets very aggressive in the sense where it's like,

it's like fetishizing. Yes. So like, I mean, I'm sure you deal with that too. Because you're a haughty too. Yeah. So I'm sure people objectify you too. Right. It's different.

Like, there's, there's, it's, like, it's, I think it's, it goes back to what you were saying about women. It's like, when I'm not doing anything that's leaning towards the idea of, like, sexuality or, like, if I'm not literally crushing a watermelon between my thighs, I don't want you to talk about how, like, it looks like. I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, you're like, you're literally, like, flipping a pancake and they're like, oh, I bet that dick is. like okay it's like it looks heavy I'm like I'm just

what are you talking about oh my god it's you posting a video of you crying it really but the way the way that's literally happened I'll be like crying but like be wearing gray sweatpants

while I'm crying I hope you're okay but also like let me let me get on my knees I'm like so yeah Not the point of the video, but they write something like that. No, right, right. Not the point of the video, but.

But I get, so it's really when it's something that's not like, you know, like Billy just walking around living his life. Yeah, exactly. He's not, he's just like. Existing. I mean, look at him, you know? He's literally just like he's existing and people are attacking in that way. But like, if I'm to post as I do sometimes on my not Olson Chris account, if I'm to post, like a thirst trap, like, sure.

Well, then yeah, it's inviting it. Inviting it. Say something. I'm feeling good about myself. Say something. You know what I mean? Say something now. Say something. Say something. Now. Within the first 10 minutes of the video being posted or else it's going to all be over. Otherwise, I'm deleting it and I'm never posting it again. And I'm never posting a video again. But I think that's where it gets confusing is people think, well, you've posted a thirst trap before or like, or people think with women,

they're like, well, yeah, you've posted a thirst rep before, or like, you've maybe, like, flirted with a guy at a bar before. I saw you flirting with another guy, so it doesn't that me. I saw you make eye contact with a man the other day. You're telling me you don't want me to comment on your big tithies when you walk outside. I saw you order coffee and that barista was a man. I saw it with my own eyes. I saw you talk to them. You know what you are?

A hypocrite. And so that's why they think, they think like, oh, because it's happened before, you must, then the invitation is open. But it's like, no, babe. That's not true. Such thing is consent. That's why. They always bring up Onlyfans a lot of times. They'll try to shame sex workers.

But see, that's the issue of consent. They're consenting to it. They're making a choice to do it. And welcoming it. And you're also paying for you, dumbass. Also, babe, like, I bet like if you're DMing her on Onlyfans, I'm going to, like, she's not actually answering you. That's going to tell them.

That's an assistant, babe. That's just, that's an automated response. And fucking power to the assistant. I'm so, like, give me that job. Any of my friends who have an only fan, I'm like, let me respond to those DMs for you. I'll get freaky. I'll say some shit.

I'll get silly and goofy. Right. And also, even with only fans, if someone's, yeah, you're paying for it. And that's their job to, like, respond in a certain way. But there's a screen in front of you. Yeah. You can't, like, actually. Touch them or say anything.

Right. There's no. There's a barrier. Yeah. reason there's a barrier. Yeah, you weirdo. Because they don't want to be talking to you back. Yeah, because this is called a job. Yeah, this is called a job. She's clocked in. Right. She's literally on the clock. So like speaking of the video that you brought up, that's the video we're going to talk about, go into the comment section. For those of you who don't know what we like to do here is

we bring videos here from TikTok specifically and we rip them shreds and we get into the comments, right? Let's bring it up. So the comments on this video about the, oh, also what I was going to say before I get into the comments is the man being like, don't objectify me. And they're being like, just kidding, you can, you can objectify me. That's fine. It kind of opens up this other channel where they're like, well, if women dress like that, then that means I can objectify them because this man said it was okay. Right, because like initially he's saying like, don't objectify me as a man.

And I'm like, yeah, like, yeah, exactly. Speak on it. Yeah. Am I saying that to a man? You're like, I guess. Maybe I don't. speak on it question mark parentheses

but then but then when he like literally just goes back on it then it's saying like it's kind of making fun of whenever a woman is like yeah so you shouldn't do that actually just kidding please keep doing it because it's true if a guy was running down the west side highway and it was like these

hot bitches keep running past me do you like my straight voice literally the corner it's a little foreign it's a little foreign it's like a different register starts like coming out and my brain starts but like then if a guy was doing that

yeah it wouldn't be it would be a little like predatory the creeptown right right and that's like some of the the comments on here

are also like kind of they're steering into that skid of like making fun of women who complain about this so like the first one says not just a victim but a survivor that man has never been through

anything in his life truly and also joking about assaults. Let's dive in. Have you heard of therapy? Dark humor. Dark humor, which apparently none of us get. Me especially. Apparently none of us have ever understood.

I'm so ignorant. Dark humor. I'm so ignorant to dark humor. Right, right. I guess jokes about assault should be much funnier than they are. That's at a higher plane. I think it's because I'm a stupid woman. I think so.

I'm a stupid woman. That's probably what it is. I'm afraid to agree. My vagina makes it, I'm incapable. of understanding. Right. Dark humor. Big brain humor.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Top shelf humor. Right, right. Me is a gay as well. I've never understood a dark joke in my life. Never. Yeah.

And you know what? And we're both not white. Right. Yeah. It's just like we just keep getting knocked down. Honestly. On this, on this humor spectrum.

Why men are the most surprised? Why street men are the most surprise? I feel bad for them like a lot of the time. They go through so much. Let's uplift and support. Not not a, what was it? Not a survivor. Not just a victim.

Not just a victim, a survivor. And say it again. Say it again for the white men in the back. Yeah, they need it. You guys need all the support you can get, apparently. This next one says, if you're running without a shirt, you're obviously asking for it. Yeah, once again, it's kind of staring into a skid. Right, we're right.

It's really, I'm not much of, I actually, I do comment like a fair amount on TikTok videos I enjoy. I'm starting to figure out I can't go as wild as I used to. No. Because sometimes I'll be right in, like, the most. wild shit. People go, girl, what are you doing here? What the fuck?

Yeah. Like, like, Drew? How did you get here? How did you get here? But my thought for these guys writing the comments, I'm like, were you like sitting behind your phone? Like, did you take like 10 or 15 minutes to think about what you want to say?

Right. Did you draft things up? Did you go on like the notes app of your computer and like write down a few Sentences? Workshop it a little bit. And work chop it and see like, that's the one. That's the one. If you're running without a shirt you're asking for.

Exactly. Exactly. They're going to, that's going to hit so good. I'm going to get a viral comment. Right, right. Which is, that's the, I'm like, what is the deal with trying to get a viral comment? I don't know. No one's going to remember.

So it's going to be like, are you the person who wrote that comment? Wait, I saw that comment. Wait, you're the one who wrote not just a victim, but a survivor? Oh my God, I loved that one. Wait, I loved that. Like, come up to you at Disneyland, be like, that's, you're the one. Oh, my God. Do you mind if we take a picture?

Do you want, if we take a photo? I'll just like put the comment in the in the caption or something like that. Help. This next one says if a male did that, then they would, then they would be toast. How old is that person? That's, you're toast. That's a young child. You're toast. And give your phone back to your mom.

Put it on the dresser. Like put it on the dresser. Let your mom pick it up because I don't think you should be. That would be toast. You'd be fucking toast, man. What a lame thing to write. I'm hurting. And this last one says, That's how women feel.

Which is, I mean, I think that's being serious. Like, that one's being serious. Like, it's like, yeah, that's kind of, it's almost like you run so far past the point you kind of come right back to it. Right. Like, you're trying to be funny, but you end up in the spot that we were all at it initially. Right, right. Right.

We've gone all the way around in a circle. I think that's kind of like, it's something, it's called like the horseshoe effect or something. Whenever you go so far on one side, you end up getting like close. back to the center. Like, yeah. It is how women feel. It's just like, even when I think about when I'm like hanging out with

some of my girlfriends like in New York or in L.A. If I'm to like go home at the end of the night, I'm just like, okay, peace. Like we're gonna fit. But if I have to like think about my friend walking home at night or something, it's a fully different game.

Because like, yes, like if I were to get like on the rare case I would get cat called on my way home. First of all, it would probably make for a great content moment because I would be like, hello, my God, West Hollywood. What are we? But yeah, I would literally be like, I'm so starved. I would be like, actually, you're like, never mind, never mind, never, no, run, no,

right, you cut the cameras. But for like, for the girlfriends, like, you really have to make, make sure they're going to be okay, walking down that west side highway, walking home. It's like a completely different. Totally different game. So it is like the objectification of men and women. Like it is a little, it's different in a way. Yeah, because one could very well threaten safety.

The other is just, it's creepy and weird and appropriate. Right. It's all inappropriate, but one could lead to you being murdered. Totally. Totally. It could be a lot worse. Again. Again, like as we, because I'm sure you do too, you like hear the comments.

back in your head after you say something. You're like, I know what you guys are going to say about that. Again, I know, I'm sure there have been moments when a man has been walking home and they felt unsafe or something. And like, women can be stalkers towards men as well. But it's just like the percentage of times that that happens for men versus women. Though I did see a take once that like someone was saying like men can't be sexually assaulted because it, that's an old, that only happens.

That's beta behavior. And I'm like, someone's like, that's an ick. I'm like, yeah. So, no, no, no. So like, so once again, we've gone too far. Yeah, again. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. One more time.

Reel it back. Let's reel it back. Let's reel it back in. Just a little bit. So, yeah, like, men can have these issues, too. It's just like, we have to be considering what the, what the volume is at hand. Well, also the uneven power dynamics. They're very different.

Like, to say that women are superior to men in a patriarchal society is just not true. Right. So to act. like the interactions are the same is just not true. Yeah. Women are constantly kidnapped, harassed, and murdered when they're walking alone at night. The odds, like you said, of being a man are far less. Does that mean it never happens?

No. No. But does that mean it's anywhere near as common? Also now. So two things can be true at once. It could be bad for both, but one could be infinitely worse. The amount of times, like, I've walked home with a friend or something. Yeah.

And she's been like, I usually get cat calls. called so much, but the difference of when I'm walking with a guy. Or I feel like I saw a story once where like a girl got cat called and she was walking with a guy and then the guy apologized to the man who she was walking with. He like cat called her and then was like, oh, sorry. So what I mean? Like the respect only only applies to men or something. Like and the fact that they won't do it because of a man is again a whole other issue.

Once again, like yeah. Like, let's just hear the way these things work. And I've talked about this before, but it's like this, it's kind of in the same vein as like when men who really, really hate me want to write terrible shit about me, whether they send it to me personally or put it on the internet. When they find out I have a boyfriend, if they go and message him, it's never bad about him. Never bad. They just want to tell him how much they hate me. But they're like, but you look so good. You look, you look great.

They're like, honestly, honestly, if it never works out. Is that a gay man? Like it's like it almost goes to a point where it's like well if you ever I don't know single let me If you're ever single like bro maybe we can lift together or kiss but like it's up to you Listen I like to do both at the same time Lift lift lift and kiss It's a workout thing it actually lived then kiss It's a it's a tech

It's like those pushups Right right right right right but are your DMs or your message requests worse than your public comments, or would you say the public shit is worse than the private stuff? It depends on the platform. Because on TikTok, I would say the comments are worse,

but no, I think on Instagram, because it's a message request on Instagram, like they could say literally anything. They say the most vile shit to me on Instagram. Right, because they think no one's going to see it. Exactly, including me.

Yeah, a lot of the time they don't even think you're going to see it. They're like, I'm just going to say the shit. I don't give it. Oh, the amount of times I've posted one, because I never blur out names ever. You want to be bold? Okay. Period. Yeah, I said, you want to be the star in my circus?

I'm going to send you the shoes and nose priority mail. You are going to be front and center. Yeah, you are going to, the clown shoes. You want to be a main character? I'll make sure of it. Yeah, okay. Here we go. One time some dude message, he messaged it to my boyfriend.

Some terrible shit about me. I feel like I saw this. Yeah, then I tweeted it and I put a picture of what he looked like, and I made fun of what he looked like. And he deleted his whole Instagram. But before that, he messaged me and said, can you please take that down? I work at a school and my school's name.

Sorry, bitch. You worked at a school so why did you do it in the first place? Thank God you're educating the youth. I'm so glad. I'm so glad to hear that. Wow, thank God you're in that kind of space with children. I'm so glad they're employing bigots. I'm so happy to hear it.

Hello? But also the way people can like, even if you didn't post that shit, if you just posted like his name, people would find everything immediately. Oh, absolutely. We have detectives. Oh, yeah. We have detectives in the comment section. Oh my gosh.

One time this dude was purposely tag. I'm sure you saw it because I made a TikTok talk about it. But he literally tagged me in his Instagram story. Unprovoked. Never seen him. Never talked about. He literally just was calling me fat. And so I reposted it.

Right? And then he lost his mind. I'm like, you wanted me to see this, right? You tagged me? Did you not want me to? That was supposed to go into my DM. I'm like, Tee, we're having fun. Yeah.

You didn't want the repose? You didn't want the cloud, the smoke? And literally someone tagged me in a comment and they were like, I figured it out. I figured out why he did this. His girlfriend of three years, they broke up and now she's with a new guy and he's in much better shape and much more handsome. And today's her birthday. And today's her birthday.

So she's celebrating and that's why he's being a . Whoa. That girl found all of that. He only had like 12 pictures. Oh my God. And then he was like, what does that have to do with anything? What does that have to do with anything? The way they can't even lie.

Like if that, if she aired my shit out like that, I would lie so hard. I'd be like, you're out of your mind, bitch. That's never happened to me. There's no way. I didn't even know when his birthday was. I had no idea. I've literally never heard of that girl. I would have lied so, he can't lie.

So he was like, what does that have to do? And listen, I'm like, I will go into, I'm, I'm a shameless, like, detective as well. Like, there have been times you've posted, man, and I'm like, oh, I'm going to, let me find out everything about their lives. And it's so funny to me, because usually. if you post someone, they'll immediately go private or delete their every account they ever have on social media. But it's what's so funny to me is the guys that

like keep their accounts open. They double down. And are like, I don't give a fuck. But they'll leave their comments open. A photo on Instagram will have like 12 likes and like 3,000 comments. Just being like. The amount of times that's happened.

Being like, what are you still doing there? My favorite part is the spiral. Like when they try to double down, like they're like, I'm not going to take it back. I'm not going to take it back. Okay. Right. I always say my favorite stage is the, it's like this five stages. It's denial.

Yeah, it's denial and the delusion. Like they're like, this is exactly what I wanted to happen. Okay. Okay. Well, then it looks like we both win. No. Yeah, exactly. I got, I got what I wanted to happen and you get yours too.

Right. So aren't you happy? You're welcome. You're getting all these followers. Yeah. It literally staggers like a drop. so quickly. Like it goes from that and then it ends with, I just don't know why she would

ever do this to me. Yeah, then it immediately. I'm a small account and she's not I'm a small account. You would think you would realize that before you tagged in the video of you calling me a fat bitch. Right. You would have taken that into consideration. It's always so interesting how quickly they

understand victim victims. Mentality. They literally they're quick, they're so quickly like I stand with victims. I am one. Like, they, they, they so quickly, it's the horseshoe. The tone shift. They've gone all the way.

They're so, they're so bold and everything. And then immediately about, about stuff that would be like anti-victoms or be like, or be like, fuck women who just like try to take down men and all this shit. And then they become one and they're like, yeah. I just like didn't. I told someone once I'm like, you know what that's called a victim mentality? And you all love to make fun of women for that. Like you guys just constantly make you so victims. Okay, then when I do it, I'm a big bully.

Right. And you're the poor innocent man. We didn't do anything wrong. The poor. I mean, it's just like if they can treat you a big personality on the internet like that. Yeah. Imagine how they're treating like the fucking women in their life. And that's why I almost said, see, that's the difference between me and other creators.

I built my platform this way. Right. So what makes you think I'm not going to put it on a billboard on Sunset Boulevard? On a Billboard. Who says I'm not going to do that? Come on. That's why I said a lot of them, a lot of creators can't do that because their brand is different. They're very brand friendly.

I'm not. And she's still getting her check. And let's speak on it. And let's speak on that. Let's talk about that for a second. This episode is brought to you by Ultima Replenisher. Health is all about balance, like a salad with fries. So why not have balance in your hydration?

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I click on the account and it says follow back. I'm like, so you want to, like, you're a fan. You want to continue seeing this kind of stuff. And I remember there was one time I made a full video because there was one guy who had been DMing me the shitty stuff for over a year. And I was like, you're in love. But you want to know what he would do?

And you like me or something. And you know what? I bet he's going to watch this. So, hey, King. You want to know what he would do? he would send all of it, unsend it after a few months, and then send a dick pick.

And then unsend it. He's going through it up here. He's going through it. And then unsend it and then start hating again. He would just be going. He would just constantly being triggered by you. Doing the rounds. He's consistently being,

but also literally in love with me and wanting me to like hook up with him or some shit. Like he wants me to, he's like, okay, the hate didn't work. He's like, here's my dick. What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts? Can we just, can we just spitball here?

Yeah, let's start rolling. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. And so I made like a full ass video about him about like going, dating things being like this is, he sent his first hate message here. These are all the things he's ever said to me. And then, and then he unsent them all. This is the blurred out photo.

Oh my God. And then I literally, I pressed post. And then I swiped out of the app and un, un, un, posted it because I was like, I will not be giving this man my clout. Yeah. I was like, it's such a fine line. Yeah, it is. Because it's, but it's sometimes, it's like you need these, these men need the smoke.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. For me, it's like, whenever I choose to do that about men who intentionally hate about me, I always know, I can tell. You can tell too probably. You can tell. When it's men who think I'm never going to see it. Right. When men who purposely do it because I know they want me to see it, that's different. The vibes are different.

Like there's, if someone like sends like a one off DM of something really like just really mean. Yeah. Sometimes I'll respond to it and then they'll leave it on red or or be like or or make a joke back like oh ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah. I never thought you'd see this. Yeah. Or like a hate comment and I respond to it and then they suddenly make a joke. I'm like, yeah, you thought you were just going to be.

Yeah, you were just going to be a dick. You were angry about some shit. Yeah. And decided to put it on me. But it's the ones who want, who really want you to say some shit that I'm like, I'm... That's when I'm like, you got to starve it out. You got to dehydrate them. Start it out.

Because I think that guy has... Well, also that guy that was sending... That's also a form of objectification doing that to you. Right. Sending you dick pics. Right. It's also a form of... Yeah.

Well, let's like, I mean, and that speak on it. Yeah. Because we, like, people don't read... Like, sending a photo like that... Unsolicited. is essentially like flashing someone. It's a salt. Like if you were,

if I were walking down the street and some guy was just like, dick. Or he went. I would be like, I would be like, oh my God. I know, literally. Terrifying.

And that's, but people think because you're doing it behind a screen. That it's okay. Oh, it's okay. It's different. It's not. It's not. It's not.

Don't do that. Even if it's like someone you know. I would urge you to maybe ask consent. Ask first. Get clearance. Yeah. Let's make sure everyone's cool and on board with it. Right.

Nothing wrong with sending pigs unless they didn't ask for it. Unless they didn't ask for it. Yeah. Unless you're Chris and that crazy guy. And I have no idea who you are. I could not even tell you his name. So for this next video, we're going to talk about men objectifying women. So I always like to describe the video this as Chris did.

originally. So in this video, a man is basically, he has a bunch of pictures green screened in the video of a beautiful girl. And he's talking about how much. Oh, I saw this one. He's talking about how much he, like, loves her and like things she's really hot, essentially. And then when they show pictures of her from behind, she's considered flat, like her ass is flat. So he's like, ugh, gross. Can we also talk about how it was a young, a young woman in the video? And the hair line was giving me 60. That was giving, it was giving. It was giving. It was giving. giving 60. It was giving old folks home.

Yeah, I was giving like 45 going on 60 especially. Yeah, that so and and that's the, that's the kind of thing where we're really getting predatory and it's getting frightening. Yeah. And it gets frightening. It's also like that's, that's what I'm saying. Like the point of his video too was talking about how she like doesn't have a butt or something like that. Yeah. Why do men feel the need to communicate things ever?

He's like, I literally, like, I hate you. Right. Like, why? Like, if there's something I don't like, I don't talk about it. I'm over it. I don't bring it up. I don't bring it up. But for some reason, a hater loves to talk about what they hate.

Yeah, like, they keep it top of mind all the time. I'm like, so do you hate it? It sounds like you're in love. Yeah. It sounds like you're in love and you're obsessed. I'll tell you something. There's a really thin line between love and. hate. At some point, they're walking on eggshells.

Like, they're truly walking that line. Right. Because the obsession is both. It gives me love. I feel like it was a line in the hit show Desperate Housewives, if we remember from years ago. That was like the opposite of love isn't hate. It's indifference. And I'm like, speak on it. And that's truly, this is so off topic, but not really. when people have asked me for like relationship advice first of all I'm no expert but like

same they sometimes just ask oh my god yeah when they ask me about that they're like how do you know when it's over like is it fighting or whatever and I always say no it's when you don't want to fight anymore it's when you've given up yeah it's the complete indifference towards it like you just have no desire to either like even yell at each other right no fighting in a relationship

I think the connotation can be rough because there's so many different kinds of fights But like an argument in a relationship, if done productively, is actually really good for a relationship. You have to have arguments and relationships to, like, communicate well and figure out what each one of you needs and likes and a partner. Like become a better partner. Yeah, exactly. So, like, it's definitely not fighting. It is when you give up.

But, like, people always ask me for relationship advice as well. And I'm like, babes, clearly it didn't work out. I don't know. I don't fucking know. I was gonna ask you. Shouldn't I be the one asking you like what we should be doing? I don't fucking know how to go through it like I can I know how to go through a breakup and not die at this point. You know like that's like that's enough.

And that's enough. That's enough for me. And that's enough. You just start like going on two hour road trips to nowhere. But yeah, it's like I it's so funny. Sometimes when you have a platform. Yeah. people kind of do immediately put you on a higher level of things,

which I really appreciate. And it's like, yeah, we got these platforms for maybe having a little bit more, not me having a little bit more knowledge about something, but like, you know, speaking on things in a different way or having a uniqueness. So it makes sense that people would come to you or ask me about advice about things. But at the end of the day, like we're in this boat together, girl. Like, we're just, I'm just as, I'm just as, I'm just as, dumb. I'm probably dumber than most

of you watching this right now. Not me though. I'm smarter than all. Not. Not her. No, no, no. She's smarter. She's smarter. But like I could learn a lot from what everyone else has to say to me. I say. Same. I think that's only natural, honestly. Right, right. But like, when it like, especially with this guy, the, the attraction is so, like, almost feral that they feel entitled to, like, an opinion. Like they get to comment on your body. Right.

And that's why sometimes when dudes are like, oh, you do body shame and return to body shaming. I've never talked about body shaming. Right. Not once. If you really, if you go all the way back, I've never once addressed body shaming. Yeah. All I've ever talked about is the very specific facets of bigotry. Yeah.

That's what I've talked about. It doesn't make me a hypocrite because I never said I wasn't going to be mean to you. Right. I've told you many times. Right. I'm going to be really mean to you. I never said I was nice. She said on this podcast.

We've heard it. And it went viral. All heard it. And it went viral. And that's the thing. Like going back to men and types too. Like, because he's now talking about like he's clearly showing that he has a type.

Yeah. Men will talk about their types unprompted. Yes. They're single. No one will ask you what your type is. And you will be out here on social media spouting your type. And it's like, not this girl. Not this girl.

Babe. Actually no one gives a fuck what your type is. It's crazy. Because you know who really doesn't care? The girl in that picture. The girl. She's living. She's living.

She's living. Because it was also red carpet photos. I'm like, wait, where... They're Getty images. Yeah, Getty images. Gross. I'm like, okay, like you said to some of the comments on your, like, Vegas things. Yeah.

Once you get on the red carpet, let's talk about it. Then we can talk about it. Then we can talk about it. And let's also see what you wear. I would love to. Like, what's your, wait, what's your fashion expo? That's what I was like, I'd love to see. I'd love to know.

Because is it 2006 Nike? Because it seems like you've been wearing a lot of that. Right? Van No shade to Nike. I love you guys. No shade to Nike. But even in this video too, I think the whole video itself was green screened by a girl who was basically saying like this is a terrible trend because men were using the sound to basically show women they were initially attracted to and then show assets that they have that they're like yuck. And that's not.

Yeah. Yuck. Not a perfect tent. Right. Meanwhile, they look truly like a Muppet. Yeah, it's not going to work. It's not going to work. I always, that's why I always make this joke.

But I always comment on looks because it's never going to not be funny when you're ugly and you're calling other people ugly. That is, that hits every time. It's not really. That's the truest form of humor to me because it's like the self-awareness, she's gone. She has checked out. She's not here, baby. Well, some of these men really think they're hot. Really feel the fire.

And then if you comment on what they look. like I do like I'm like you're one to talk right right then they'll go listen I know I'm not perfect then shut the hell up then shut up it's always it's always the fitness bro that thinks he's hot but turns the like

sharpness on his photos on Instagram up to 2000 the contrast all the way up the contrast all the way up and like his hair is like covering his face and he's like all my life I had to fight all my love a demon emojis

Or like, or it's like a Bible verse. And it's like, God, you really are close to the Lord with how much you talk about women. That's what I'm saying. Clearly, the teachings of the Lord have really penetrated that tiny pea brain. They said it in the Bible. I hate women. It's actually one of the first lines. It's in scripture.

Yeah. So there you go. And so I, we're on to you. And I live by that. That's what they say. And I live by that. It's the Instagram bio to end all Instagram bios. Yeah, literally. We're so here for it.

So the comments on this is like, I understand where you're coming from, but girls talk about us as well. Like basically shitting on the girl who green screened the video, because she was saying this is a terrible trend, stop doing it. Yeah. And this man is saying, I understand where you're coming from, but girls talk about us as well. Listen, girls talk about you when they've been provoked.

Right. Men talk about women unprovoked all the time. Like the only time women make fun of what other dudes look like is when they're being horrible. or if they're making a joke, in which case men do it the same too. Yeah. So, like, who are you really mad at? Exactly.

If we were in a culture where, like, no one was doing any of that, sure, sure. Like, yeah, the one or two times that it's ever, a woman has ever objectified a man. Yeah, like, let's talk about it. But that's just simply not how. Well, at any time a girl doesn't, all of a sudden that moral compass points do north. Right. They're like, you know what? You know what?

this makes you a bad person. No, I've never objectified a woman in my life. Not me. I've never. So this is actually the first time I'm coming in contact with objectification, and I can't believe you are introducing it to me in this way. In 2022, and I'm 30 years old. I've never seen this before. I've never seen this before, and how dare you bring it up to me in this way?

It's just like, yeah, there are times when a woman has made a man uncomfortable. Again, it goes back to everything that we've said before. there are isolated incidences. Yeah. And they beat those to hell. Like they'll use them and just talk about them non, nonstop. Right. Because it'll be like, it'll be like a short king.

Listen, I'm a short king. I'm all for them. It'll be a short king who's maybe felt insecure because a girl was like, listen. I like a taller dude. I like a taller guy. And so because of that, he has then objectified women for the rest of his life. Can you imagine? But he, I can't, to be honest.

I can't get into that. I can't get into that. But then he will also be the first person to be like, well, it's because one time in the fifth grade, Mallory called me short. And it's like, great,

but that actually didn't give you a golden ticket to then objectify for the rest. Or to be a bigot. Or to make fun of, like, fat people for the rest of your life. Right. Okay, well, I hate fat bitches. Okay.

All right. Well, I don't like short guys. You can't say that to me. Yeah. That's what they always say. It's like, wait. So now you understand. Yeah.

So it turns out it doesn't feel very good. Oh my God. So now you get it. That's crazy. It's like it's suddenly like, I'm so glad we're doing this together. Yes, babe. We realized together.

I'm so proud of us. We got there. At the end of the day, you're best friends with these men. I'm saying. You're helping. My biggest fans. You're helping lead them. It's like you are holding all of their hands to the light.

You're like, babe, I see you in the darkness. I'm going to bring you. It's so gross down there. And it's in hell. You're looking pretty rough. and it is in hell. It looks like your hair has been burned all off. Let me take you, let me take you to the light side.

Yeah. And by that, I mean, I get to show people that you're in hell. And then I shut the door. And then shut on there. You stayed on there because you took yourself there. And this next comment says, oh, wait, aren't you the same girl? Girls that make fun of height. Yeah, see, we were just talking about height.

My thing about height is this, if you're a short, if you're a short dude, right? And you don't make that your entire personality, you're fine. I think like no one. They'll have no problem. Literally no one, no one cares. There was a time in my life when I was like, yeah, I always want, like, there were, there was a, not always, but there was a time in my life when I was like, I think my type is someone who's like taller or something like that.

But then I found myself like dating people of literally all heights. Yeah. Because like at the end of the, you realize, oh, it actually doesn't matter. It doesn't matter unless you're, unless you're going to hammer home the fact that you're like a short person. Yeah, exactly. the rest of our No one talks about dudes being short more than short dudes who hate being short.

Like you are the ones who talk about it all the time. Right. Bring it. Like you'll never let me forget. No matter how hard I try. Right. You'll never let me forget. There are some,

like if you think about this, like you talk to dudes who are short, don't make it their whole personality. You don't even realize they're short. Like you, it takes a long time for you to realize like, oh, they're not very tall. But like it's not something you're like,

ha ha loser. Yeah. It's just like a passing thought. Yeah. Because it's not their entire personality. because they don't care because they're not insecure. Right. And then that goes to the point that you were saying earlier about how like women will frequently talk if you ask what their type is.

Yeah. They're not going to go like, yes, maybe down like at the very end of the list is like, I like a taller man sometimes. But let's talk about selling sunset for a second. Did you watch? I didn't watch, but I think I know what you're going to talk about. Chris Shell at one point in the show says, I had a height thing for a while. Yeah.

But then she dated Jason, who's much shorter than her. because women are going to go for the personality. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. As long as this person is a good person, that's really all that matters. Yes. But, like, for me, I'm, I'm someone who hated being tall. For a long time, I'm six feet tall.

Yeah. So I'm a tall bitch, so I would like someone to be taller than me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In my dating time, like, that's, like, the least of my worries at that point. And are you going to, like, have you ever made that your whole personality? Being tall? Right. I'm being so tall.

Right. You guys look at me. You got for the movie tall. You know what you're being mean to me? It's probably because I'm tall. It's probably because I'm tall. It's probably because I'm tall. You've not seen like the other half of my body in these videos, but it's probably

because I'm tall. It's probably because I'm tall. I bet you anything is because I'm tall. The types that like women will talk about and how it goes for personality first, that's why it can sometimes be like a dumpster fire in the gay community because that is all men. Yeah. Men, men, men, men, men.

It's craziness. Like, I'm like, here we are talking about how men can be the worst. and I am a man looking for a man. If anything, if anything, that makes you a veteran, you know better than anybody. I'm like trudging through the woods. I'm allowed to comment on this. Because it's like I am, I'm a kind of guy who I will talk about personality first, but I'm also very aware that in the gay community, like, so much centers around looks.

There's such like a toxic look in the gay community. Because, I mean, if you think about like older gay men too, they are. always looking good. They're always looking like you are still snatched. You're killing it. And I'm like, but does that come from the fact that you have been like working your entire life

to continue looking good? It's so exhausting, I'm sure too. And like this next comment says double standards. This next one says that's so not okay. What trend is this? It's not a good one. That was like the only supportive one of the girls video. But yeah. I mean, it's just the

unsolicited commentary on other people's bodies unnecessary nine times out of ten it's always men but like when it comes to objectifying I can't forget to mention this I made videos once about how I deal with objectification like in public right because like back in the day I used to be a screamer like I used to be someone like because I had no fear when oh yeah so I used I used to light people clap the fuck back so you would just do what you're you're doing on TikTok now yeah but worse but worse because I you know because I had no community guidelines in real life right right you could say whatever I was like, yeah, and I had no fear, so I would go insane.

Like if someone was objectifying me or like a friend of mine or anything like that. Oh, go in. But then I started thinking people are nuts, so maybe don't do that. So then I kind of, I would try anything. I would try to say I was taken. I would try to ignore it. Yeah. Nothing works, right?

No. And then if you're receptive to it, they take that wrong to. Yeah. So I developed a technique. I'm going to share it with you all now. Guys, get ready. This is something that's foolproof. Like, it's worked every single time.

Anytime I talk to women and we talk about this, I give them my tips and a lot of times they tell me it worked. I'm obsessed with that. I've seen people do barking and shit. Like, sometimes dudes are into weirdos. Right. Sometimes they're like, that's exactly what I wanted to do. They're like, oh, she's so quirky. Yeah.

She's a quirky queen. Yeah, that barking doesn't work for me. That doesn't work. So when they, let's say they say some bullshit. Like you're by yourself. They say some bullshit. This is what you do. You go, what?

like you didn't hear them. Right. Even if you very clearly heard them. Yeah. Yeah, you go, what? Really loud so it draws attention. Yeah. Then they're going to have to say it again.

Right. And it's never anything good. They're like, you got some nice titties. Let's say that's what they said. What? Then you say what? Like you didn't hear them. And then they're going to go, you, you, I said you have some nice tits.

Like you're going to say it again and then you have to go again. What? Like you have to say genuinely stick to it. I'm telling you commit to the bit. Commit to the bit. Commit to the bit. Once you say it. the second, most of the time they bitch out after two.

Sometimes they'll go to three. Three's the cap. They've never made it past three. Once you hit three, they're going to be like, never mind. Like they're going to be, and then if they say, then let's say they doubled down, right? And they go to three. Right. Then you go, oh. And just turn around.

That's it. That's it. That's it. Do nothing else. Don't laugh. Don't smile. Don't get mad. Just go, oh.

Right. And then leave. I'm telling you, they say, they feel so dumb. So that's my. I'm telling you they feel so... The look on their face is priceless. Every time...

I can imagine. When you do it, they're literally like... Like, they lose all their stamina. All their, like, the... All the gumption they have. Yeah. It's gone. Well, there's a video of a girl

like walking around the streets of New York and she replies, like, encouraging all of the... Like, she'll be like, oh my God, really? And like, really talk to them back. And almost all of them react horribly. They're like short-circuit. They're like, they're like, off.

Shut up. They're like, why are you talking to me, weirdo? Yeah, they're like, nice ass. And she's like, oh my God, thank you. They're like, bitch. I'm like, what was your goal? That's what I'm saying. It's not for you.

And even then there's an off, there's a chance that someone might be like, yeah? And then you're like, oh, now I got to deal with it. Now I got to talk to you. I'm telling you, use my trick. That does sound foolproof. Every time.

Then you go, oh. Oh. Oh. You have to look up and down. Oh. and just turn around. That's it. Like one time,

the very first time I ever did it, I was like, that's what I thought you said. I just turned around. Right. And then they're like, I mean, can you imagine the embarrassment?

Just the humiliation. Like they literally, one time I had to do it and he literally sped off. Like he healed out fast and the furious. Immediately. Took off speed racer out. Right. Right.

Because I was at a gas station. Yeah. That's where I developed my trick. And I've, that is so powerful. I've shown women because it's not you being antagonizes not you getting mad it's just you're hello like it's you asking question oh okay and it's like repeat yourself if you wanted to say that like say it oh no no say it louder i'm telling you and you have

to say it loud like when you say what you say what like really loud so it draws attention everyone's looking now there's an audience and they have to say it again right because that's it's it's exactly like the men who you're responding to it's like no double down on what you just said no no tell everybody hey turn around he wants to talk to yeah no he wants to he wants to he won't he He has something to say. I told you. He's being bold. You want to be a main character.

Right. I'm going to make sure of it. Right. So that's why I literally have done that countless times. That's beautiful. And it works every time. They feel so dumb. A lot of times they'll give up, they'll leave.

Like, because then the third time you say it, they're going to be like, okay, she definitely heard me. Yeah. So then they're like, they get very uncomfortable. My God. Wait, I'm going to live. So the antithesis of cat calling that I've experienced is men saying the, the, the, the, the gay F word. to me in public. And there have been times when, like, someone will say it driving by in their car.

And I'll agree. I'm just like, yes. Correct. Ding, ding, babes. How'd you know? And, like, I was, my friend and I were being loud on the streets of New York the other day. And the same thing happened. But this time, I didn't say anything.

I just, like, I was like, whatever. I'm, like, annoyed by that. But I think that can also apply. of that situation. Yeah. If I was just like, what? Yeah. Wait, what was that?

No, like, say it again. Feel free, feel free. And enjoy, like, enjoy having everyone else here. Yeah, you'll have to draw attention to it. It is so funny when they say stuff or, like, if a man cat calls you driving by in the car. It's like, oh, you didn't want to stay. You had, you knew this was something. And they get stuck at a red light.

So then you're just standing there. What do they do? Roll the window up. Yeah. It's just the slow. Like. I was just being silly and now I'm embarrassed. Yeah.

Honestly, like men getting embarrassed. A beautiful thing. I'm telling you. It keeps me young. And there was a, I feel like, there was a survey. I forget, like, someone looked this up, but it's real. There was a survey of like, people asking women what their biggest fear was. I think I remember saying.

People ask, people ask women what their biggest fear is. And it's like, it's assault or like, or, yeah, or like being murdered on the street. Ask men what their biggest fear is. being embarrassed ridicule and she's and then I was born and then

Drew spawned out of nowhere I spanned out of nowhere that you literally just like the survey was finished and you appeared

it's like women are terrified of life altering events when men are scared of a little joke of being embarrassed a little joke a little jokey joke

about them that makes terrifying you know what I can vouch for that that's true yeah they do not like

being embarrassed they do not like like being embarrassed. I can 100% confirm. And then that's oddly what makes them like more mad. What makes them mad, what makes them like become women's biggest fear. That's what makes them violent.

That's what makes them like horrible humans. It's like it's just We have both have very different problems. We have very different problems. If your biggest fear is being ridiculed. Block me. Block me. Block me. Block me. That's my advice to you. Block me.

What's your biggest fear then? Um, embarrassment. As a man, embarrassment. Ridicule. No, bitch. Do you see my social media? I embarrass myself every day. You too.

I embarrass myself. Every day. I think that's the only way you can do this business. No, my God. Ridicule is so far from my biggest fear. There are videos where I know people are going to be like, Chris, there's something wrong with you. I know that's going to be the comment section.

And I'm like, first of all, yes, there is. And? Yes. And what of it? and and also I'm like, I'm like, I find joy in the ridicule. Yes. I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I'm a mess as, as you are. And that's also why you follow me.

That's like why you've connected with both of us is because you're like, oh, I'm a mess just like them. Yeah. I would say like a little bit of an irrational fear, I'm not a spider person. Oh, Rachnophobia. I frequently will go to bed and just think that there's like, like a spite. I will, I will, I just have, I will allow myself to think that like, one is going to find its way into my apartment and just be like waiting. Do you know that happens in Australia? Yeah, the, the absolute dinosaurs that they're still dealing with. Terrifying. I will never go to Australia

for that reason. I'm so sorry to all of me who are from there. If I ever do go and I see one, I am never coming back. One of my friends, I did a summer program with a girl who grew up in Australia. And she, I was like, oh my god yeah like the spiders are insane there right aren't you scared of them she's like yeah i hate them like one time i woke up and there was like a tarantula in my bed and i had to just like brush it off i was like you're not so you're not scared of spiders that like you're lying to me i just lied it would be death i would immediately i would hope my heart would burst in that moment and i wouldn't have to deal with it no for me um that's the spider's house now like i'm living out clearly the spider needs this room more than i do and take it and please

I honestly take it. I'll pay for the house. I'll pay for it. Yeah, you don't. No, but like... I have no problems being like I don't like bugs. Like I don't like bugs. No.

I don't like birds. I don't like sea animals. Like, there's a lot of things I don't like. No. Let me tell you. Yeah. At the very top of that list. However, I think an irrational fear of mine is like, I just talked about this with my

sister actually on my podcast with her. But we talked about, I don't like, this is so stupid. But I don't like. when like people are bigger than they're supposed to be. And I mean tall. Like I'm talking tall. Like I'm saying like giant things. Oh.

Upset me. Oh. The best way I describe is like, has anyone ever put a Disney? Listen, everyone in here is like, huh? Yeah. We're all like, we're catching up. We're catching up in our heads.

We're like, wait, we'll get there. Like if you've seen Chewbacca, right? Right. Has anyone, have you seen him at like Disney? I'm like my heart's like pounding. Have you seen him at Disneyland? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. You know how he's like nine feet tall? Yeah. No. Instantly no. Right. Instantly, instant death, like kill me instead.

I don't want to be around. I don't want to be in a world where people are giant. Like, giants scare you. And in a sense that, like, this is so hard to articulate. My family understands why. I have this irrational fear of large things. Like, large people or mammals.

So, like, not like, you're not talking about, like, a tall king. No. I'm talking like, you're 12 feet tall. If someone, if someone's head. Like peer, like literally it gives me if you saw two huge hands

like peer over Wait wait Wait wait like this is a perfect example This is the one I always give people And they're like oh okay Because I believe it or not I talk about this a lot Right but like has everyone seen Avatar

Right the first avatar right Okay remember the part at the end When they're like all fighting each other And then the girlfriend Like his blue girlfriend She comes to the little You know he's like in that little pod And he's like in the machine

Right You know what I'm saying And you know how like Something's attack it and he's going to die. So she like crawls inside the machine. She crawls inside of it and she's holding him like this. Like he's like a little Barbie.

Oh, because he's small. No. No. No. She's too big. Be less big. Right. Be less shrink.

That is so. I wonder where that stems from. I don't know. But when I was a kid and I would have parties at, look at me just doing therapy. When I was having a party. Can we talk about it? I would have parties at Chuck E. Because the characters were so.

They're large. Every time they came out, I would start screaming. and run in the opposite direction. I have this track since I was a child. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Something about large mammals. Like, and I'm talking like 12, like if someone came in here

and they were like 30 feet tall. Yeah. I would instantly kill myself. Would you? I would throw myself in front of her room. You would probably start sobbing. I have. I saw Chewbocker for the first time.

This is me being vulnerable. I saw Chewbacca for the first time at Disneyland. My mom was like, let's go take a picture. I said, girl, you know how I feel about big things. Right. She was like, it'll be fine. It wasn't. We went in there.

I had a full-blown panic attack. because it was too big. Too big. You're too big. You're too big. But you also, right. Even knowing that it's just like a regular person in there. Like, even though you know.

It's like, it's like a. I know he's not real. It's like a 5-8 intern who's just like. Like an 18 year old. Like he's watching me in my early 20s. Absolutely spin out. Like I wish, oh, you know what? I'm going to find the picture of me because my whole family's next to it.

And I'm on the very, I was like, because I was. You're scared. I literally was like, I couldn't do it. Right. That was the first time my boyfriend ever watched me, like spin out. And so he was like, are you okay? Have you ever cried on social media? Yeah, I have.

You have? Yeah, a couple times. You're not, you're not, are you a crier. Yeah. You are a cipher moon. Oh my God. I'd be crying. I'd be crying and I'd be stressed. But you, I feel like, I feel like you, because you have to hold that, that stronghold on these men, you're like, I'm not going to let them see shit.

I love a social media cry No, I love that I love that for us Right, right I'm saying That's this is way before I had a platform I think I was like 20 At the time

But I don't know Something about large mammals Just They just get it Like when you see whales And they're like huge Oh my god Like the open ocean

For mammals are whale I'm an idiot Okay I was like Are whales mammals Like A mammal means you get pregnant Yeah

Yeah I think You don't lay eggs Whales get Yeah they don't we would know about whale eggs. It's just us just being like, are they mammals? We would know if whales laid eggs.

Think about it. Think about that. We would know. We would not. Because it would be a huge thing. No, you're right. With those whale watching things where they're like, they see a whale and then there's like a single other person in the boat.

That's my worst nightmare. I would say that like the open ocean is another big, big fear. Me too. Like thinking about just like if I am left in the middle of no. Because then imagine looking down. No. Huge mouth. That literally

You're done That scene in Life of Pie Have you ever seen Life of Pie? Yes Okay the part where he's He's just like sitting on the boat And then that giant whale comes out And it's like

It's like I watch I can't stop I literally I watched that And I said that's where it ends for me Yeah I'm drowning myself that night Like I truly I will not

He held on for a long time Way too long He held on for way too long As soon as I see a whale I'm out I'm out I don't take me now I don't want to be in this world

Lenny War it's okay. I'm also pretty... I'm pretty terrified of like the like supernatural. Me too. Like I'm scared of a ghost. Me too. I'll say...

And I believe in them. I believe it. And you know who you're fucking with them? White people. And they do. They test the afterlife. And they test it. And it's not for me.

And it's not for me. I, there was a time when I was like, there was a good time in my life where like every night before bed I was like there are spirits here. And then I moved out of that apartment and I didn't feel it anymore. So let me tell you there were spirits there. I'm telling you. Insidious the movie. Insidious the movie.

It's giving paranormal activity. Except I'm not. You wake up and you're like, it's giving me paranormal. Can you guys not? Except I am not a person who's going to set up a camera and see what happens. I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I'm leaving.

As soon as when they're like, oh, I need to figure it out. Not me. Not me. I don't need to know. The ghosts can have this house. They can figure it out. They can have it. No, let's talk.

Let's talk. Babe, I don't want to argue with you. about property. No, my God. You can keep it. You were probably here before me. Yeah, I'm saying. Take it.

That's all yours. Yeah. Anyways, yeah, fears. Fears, fears. I have the most irrational fear. I used to be scared of cows for a while. Well, they are big. They are.

But see, there's really just like it's a big, like a big thing for you. Big mammals. Yeah, a big mammal. Okay, no, I had a dream once about that a cow was chasing me on two legs like Barnyard. Like Otis from Barnyard. Have you ever seen that movie? No. Oh.

That joke will kill for people who have. seen one. He walks around on two legs, which is something there's something. You want to talk sinister. That would be, if you saw a cow walking around on two legs. Tell me that wouldn't make you shit yourself. I would be really, I would be upset. It would be upsetting. I had a dream it was chasing me on two legs. And then I had this really irrational fear of cows for a while. Whoa. I've since grown past it. I think they're okay now. I mean, you know the way to get over this is like exposure therapy. Like your photo with Chewbacca was necessary. Was it? Because I still haven't gotten past And listen, I'm never going to touch a spider in my life.

So here's me trying to give the advice when it's not something I'm willing to take it. No. No. No, thank you. That's for you. That's for you. But you take it. But you take it.

Yeah. No, I do, I just tend to like live in fear. Same. I feel you. Yeah. I think anxiety is just constant fear. That's what it is. Yeah.

That's what it is. The internet has given me a lot of new fears. Oh, me too. I'm like scared. I'm just scared of the internet a lot of the time. Yeah. like when I found out that when you order at Starbucks they can see you what did you just say when you order at Starbucks they can see you like at the drive-thru yeah like you know how they're the big

menus there's cameras in there they be watching you and you know how I found that out you know how I found that out do you want to know how I found that out I literally found that out because one time I was in a Starbucks drive-thru and I was ordering and I was trying to get my mask out of my purse I had a pair of underwear in my purse don't ask me why I was going to the beach that's neither here nor there. I had a pair of chonies in my purse. I'm sitting there I'm ordering trying to put the mask in my face. The dude talking to me a little too friendly. Kept calling sugars, shuggies. It was throwing me off, right? So I'm sitting there trying to order. He keeps saying the word shuggies. And I'm trying to put my mask on my face and it won't go on.

You want to know why? I was putting a pair of underwear on my face. A pair of underwear on my face. No. And then I found out they could see me because then when I came to the window, none of them could really look at me. And they were all laughing. And you want to tell me, that's a fear. You want to talk fear, that's a fear. Someone, and I said, can they see you through the menu? And people in my comments were like, yeah, we can see you. That's, I'm in pain for you. For you.

That's ridicule at the end of the day. That's embarrassment. I'm literally saying. And you lived through it. And let that be a message to men everywhere. Yeah, the mental scar on my frontal lobe, the fact that I'll wake up in the middle of the night thinking about that. Yeah. Was it like cute underwear?

No. Damn. They were what we called period panties, babe. That's what was on my face. And how did we confuse that for a mask? Because both of them were black. Right. And they were both in my purse.

And I wasn't looking. And I was thinking about the word sugars. Were you trying to put like the leg holes over your ears? Yeah, I literally was putting one side on my ear. And I kept going like this. And it wouldn't stick because I was still trying to order. Mind you, I'm ordering all this coffee for my family. There's about eight of us.

So I'm like, no, that's a venty iced Americano with oat milk, no sugar. Like, I'm literally doing that. trying to remember it and I'm putting underwear on my face bitch underwear bit chonies customis imagine them all like people are starting to gather around the monitor they're like a live stream

is she she's oh my god period panties they were exhilaration brand honestly they were from Target I've had them for about 10 years so that should tell you the state of them but they were clean

they were clean right no one tell me no one even start with me and try to say I put dirty chonies in my in my purse. And so what did the, what did it, what did it, what did it, what it going to the beach have to do with? That's why I was like, I was just going to the beach. Neither here nor there. Because I don't like UTIs. So after you swim, you have to change, but then I already had like a little brawlet with me. You're not a fan of UTIs? No. Oh. As are most of us. That's too bad. So then I, if you sit in a wet bathing suit, if you sit in a wet bathing suit, you get a UTI. So I was literally like, oh, I'll just bring

underwear. And I put them in my purse. So I didn't have to pack a, So you were trying, you were really trying to be productive in this moment. I was trying to be prepared and that's what I get. That's how I'm, that's how I am repaid. That's how the universe repays you. Yeah, they repay me by making me put period panties on my face. Something about astrology plays into all of us. Yeah, me being a Virgo, I'm very prepared.

That's what it was. And that's why I spin out when I was. And then it was the cancer moon putting the underwear on my face. Yeah. And then it was my Sagittarius Rising getting angry at everyone. Like it was anyone's fault of my own. My God, it really throws, it all comes together. And my mask was like,

same kind of material a little bit, cloth. You know what I'm saying? And on that note. And on that, what were we talking about? And on that note, fears. Yeah, fear. Well, objectification is a fair. Oh, objectification.

We went off the rails a little, but, you know, we always bring the ship home. We did. I'm so. The fact that you can't look at me the same anymore. I'm like, uh, whoa. This has been really fun. Anyways, that being said, thank you so much for coming today. Thank you for having me.

Whoa. I feel like a lot has changed since I first walked through the doors. I feel like we connected on a different level now. Yeah. You and me and the 50 other people in this room. And the 50 other people. Yeah, right. Like, I'm so relaxed.

My asshole unclenched. I'm so glad. Yeah. And there's ass sweat probably, huh? I didn't want to say it. But we stand that here. But we stand it. But we stand it.

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