The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - WE JUST HANG OUT AND SLAY | Drew Afualo ft. Hina | THE COMMENT SECTION EP 30

Episode Date: September 7, 2022

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Not me spending a whole day with straight people not even realizing. They are scary because they blend in these days. Everyone's cuffing their jeans. Everyone's wearing shirts about plants. No, literally. I'm like, how am I supposed to decide? Everyone has a hand tattoo. I'm like, I thought I had it.

I thought I had it. 50-50 if my zipper's up or down anymore. Take my pants off at home. They come off easy. I'm like, I thought it was four hours I was walking around. Netflix is a joke presents. Nate Bar Gatsy Big Dumb Eyes World Tour. Special live taping at Into It Dole.

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Slay. Your honor. They're slaying. They're not serving time. They're serving luck. Hina and I go way back. We do. We met at that TikTok event. We did.

And we were both being awkward and standing alone. I love that for both of them. I'm actually like really introverted and I feel like people are like, no, you're not. And I'm like, no, but I am. If I'm at a social function, I'm like in the corner. No, I feel that. I feel that. At that party, I felt very introverted yet.

The vibe was very. was like so uncomfortable. It was very light. It was, I thought, I was like, am I the gay representation of America? Because nobody else was fruity there. No. Then I saw you and I was like, you're fruity adjacent. I was like, I know, like a friendly face.

I was so happy to see you. Right. Oh my God. You want to hear something so funny. So Leo Gonzalez, when I had him on my show, I was talking to, because me and Leo are good friends too. So I was telling Leo, like, I remember other than Heena, because I told Leo, I was like, I saw Heena.

and I recognized Tina. But other than you, Leo was the only other person I recognized him there too. Yeah, that was the only other person as well. And I was starstruck. Yeah, because I was like, oh my God. The rock security guy. And I thought it was so funny. And I wanted, and I told them I didn't say anything because I got nervous.

So I just didn't approach him. I literally said, oh my God, you're that guy. And he was, he looked at me like, yeah. And I was like, I don't even know why I know who you are, but you're that guy. I know. I told Leo that in person when he came on my show. And he goes, yeah, I find that. really funny mostly because you saw that I was standing with myself and you didn't come say hi to me

because he was alone the entire party. But I thought like I love when I see people alone at parties because I feel like we're allies. Same. Like I feel safe with you. Right. You don't have friends like me. So we need each other. This is usually beneficial. Yeah. Absolutely. And I did stand there with you for a little bit. Yeah, we did. We took. We were in solidarity. We took a pick. Yeah. We took a pick. And then we we separated and then we came back. And then the rest of the night I was staring at you. Yeah. We just look at each other. And I was like, Drew, please. Help me. And then we follow each other on Instagram. Yeah. And the rest is rock and roll history.

Look at us now. Look at us. Look at us. So proud of us. I know. Wow. Now, API Trailblazers. That's right. That's us. We blazed. We trailed. We did. We did all of the above. D. All of the above. And like, it is hard being Asian. But trailblazing. That's another level. That's another level. Trailblazing as an Asian person. Yeah. As a Pacific Islander person? There you go. Who knew? Who knew all the trails we would blaze? I don't even like hiking. Me either.

I'm not an outdoorsy person. I literally hate the outdoors. Me too. One time someone asked to take me on a date and like they were like really cute. We were having like a cute little moment and they were like I love hiking. I never texted them ever again. I was like this is just not going to. You could never work out.

I'm deathly allergic to fire ants. It's like my one like lethal. Your Achilles. Yeah, it's my Achilles. Like I will die. How'd you find that out? The hard way girl. I got bit and I was like.

like, my throat's closing. This is fun. And it's like a random allergy to have. And I'm like, this is God's way of showing me that she did not want me to be outside. There you go. And I'm like, say less. I don't need to ask any more questions. I was like, I'm not going to fight you on that.

Because I was forcing myself to be outside personally because I thought that's what young people do. But I don't know. I don't really think I'm going to age now. The universe doesn't want me to. So I shall not. Me too. A natural breeze just doesn't hit the same. That's kind of like my.

My dad is such an outdoorsy person. And my dad loves, every year he goes, you know what we should do for like any event that's not Father's Day? You know what we should do? Ride bikes. Oh, no. Even worse. We should go on a hike. No.

And sometimes on like Mother's Day, he'll literally like group texts my siblings and I. And he'll be like, let's take your mom on a hike. I'm like, she doesn't like that. That's not a gift. That's a punishment. Do you love her? And I'm all, you like that. Yeah.

And he's like, your mom would love a hike. I'm like, she would go on the hike. She wouldn't love it. Yeah. She would just be there. Love is a strong word. Love is a strong word. That's why you don't say it on the first date.

I learned not the hard way. Unfortunately. Unfortunately. Well, see, speaking up, that's honestly a perfect segue into our topic for today. So our topic for today is we're talking about roles in the relationship. Role's with quotes, obviously. Because I'm a cis straight. woman. That's true. But you are a non-binary lesbian. That's true. Who's also in a committed

relationship. That's true. So we have roles, whatever they may be. Yeah. According to the like heteronormative standard. The science. Yeah. The science that that dictates only two genders. Right. Apparently they both need to have specific roles, but we don't adhere to those. Can you tell me about those? I can't, honestly. As a straight person, I can't. I believe it's woman cook. Woman. And money. Ooh. I think I might have heard that somewhere.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't really know what's going on over there. I just, I just assume everyone is gay. I met. Or at least hoping.

Yeah. I'm like, oh, that's weird. What are you? What are you? Hetero or something? I was on his music video set and like, in my opinion, everyone's wearing neon. So I'm like, okay. Everyone here's gay, obviously.

So I'm like over here being like fruity, like limp-risted walking around set. And then everyone's like, everyone was straight. I didn't know. How disrespectful. And so I was saying like, I was just going out to people being like, the gay agenda, am I right? And nobody said anything.

And I'm like, am I. Nobody can kiki with you? Nobody. And everyone was just like, oh my God, you're so silly. And I'm like, I'm not being silly. I'm trying to find allies. I'm trying to find friends. And clearly none are present.

Yeah. Because none of you are chiming in. I don't trust anyone anymore. So. I feel that. Yeah. And then I was like, not me spending a whole day with straight people, not even realizing.

They are scary because they blend in these days. Everyone's cuffing their. jeans. Everyone's wearing shirts about plants. No, literally. I'm like, how am we supposed to decide? Everyone has a hand tattoo. I'm like, I thought I had it.

I thought I had it. Okay, so basically, I think, I mean, according to the men, the straits, the scariest of them all for being real. Right. Women have very specific roles in relationships. Oh, really? And obviously, you're a non-binary lesbian. Right. And a relationship with a woman.

Right. Do you feel like there's a role for her to play? a gender like I don't have any roles so she actually has all of them so she assumes them all yeah by default I call her like my husband followed with a pronoun she there you go and like and I feel like that really encompasses like our relationship you know yeah we personally I don't think there's a single role there I wouldn't and you know what how freeing is that right that is so release yourself yeah from the heteronormativity sometimes she cook sometimes she clean sometimes I clean I'm like, I don't really know.

I don't know. It's just kind of... I do laundry yesterday. She do laundry today. I'm like, it feels pretty equality. Yeah, it is equal. Equal. Equality.

Yeah, equality. Coincidence? I don't think not. I don't think so. Equality. I think for me, too, like sometimes my boyfriend who's like, aesthetically, like, very masculine. He is a mask. Yeah.

As I would say in my community. That's a mask. He's masked. He's masks. Yeah. And I think sometimes the whites, they will ask me things like about his long hair. Right. And like in my culture.

That's not mask. No, that's not mask. That's girl. That's girl. So like sometimes they'll ask like about the long hair. My brother has long hair. My dad had long hair at one point. RIP.

He's bald now. It happens to everybody. That's what gives me the permission to talk about bald people. I have alopecia so I can say anything. About bald people? About bald people. There you go. I'm popping.

Okay. So like for my boyfriend, like in my culture, it's very normal for men to have really long hair. Like very long, thick, luscious hair. And it is gorgeous. And it's like my thing, if I'm being honest. Right. Every man I've ever liked because I don't want to say crush because men have repulsed me since the day. Crush is kind of aggressive.

Yeah. It's more so tolerated. Right. From afar, I, they always have long hair. So it tracks that I'm with someone with long hair. I have a thing for long hair too. Right. But he does have an undercut.

Okay. Which I would assume transcence. That's so lesbian. Well, there you go. Yeah, there it is. That's girl. Yeah, that's girl. The undercutts also girl.

Yeah, but like is lesbian girl? Sometimes. That's true. It's up for interpretation. Yeah, it is. But I think sometimes they'll ask because according to the rules in the relationship, like femininity is solely with the female identifying person in the world of heteronormativity.

Right. But I don't think hair has a gender. Hair doesn't have a gender. That's why when I was like, okay, I'm not girl anymore. I'm not boy either. When I was like, I'm non-binary, I was like, it doesn't even matter if I have long hair anymore. Because it doesn't, like, I used to be insecure about presenting femme because I was like, oh, then people are going to think I'm a girl. But then I was like, men have, look at Hozier.

Yeah. Look at Harry Styles. Yeah. Look at these, look at your romance. Yeah. They have long hair and no one's like, that's girl. Yeah. So I was like, who am I?

That's true. You know, because I won. I have alopecia. So I'm not going to look good bald because it's going to be patchy. Okay? So when everyone is going bald during the pandemic, consider yourself privileged because I couldn't do that. Okay? And I don't have the head shape for it.

I'm shaped like a freaking peanut head from. That's me too. Mine's just a big garbanzobane. That's what I'm saying. I'd look like a like a cue tip when you rub it really hard and it's all frayed. That's literally what I would look like. Yeah. Bald.

But I have a theory that if I went bald, I would never sweat again. And sometimes I'm tempted to try. I mean, wigs. Yeah, that's not saying. Go bald. Yeah, I kind of like the idea of wigs because then I could be a different person every time you saw me. And like, I love a good rebrand. A rebrand?

We support a rebrand. I rebrand every week. We were just talking about how cringe we were when we were younger. And you were a big fan of rebrands. I was, I've been rebranding before people knew what rebranding was. When I was 14, I was like, okay, I'm going to be like super slutty and like crazy. So, like, that was my brand. But like, I wasn't actually a sludely.

bloody, I just wanted to wear high wasted shorts. So like I wanted to present. But like in, in that year, that was really, that was really progressive. You know what I mean? You wanted to cosplay. Yeah, it was exactly. Because I was on Tumblr at that time and like all the girlies who I was in Hawaii.

So like in Hawaii, like people were on Tumblr like that, right? That was like a Cali thing. Yeah. So I was like, I'm different. I know what's going on out there. I'm not like these other girls. Yeah. And like I was,

I was a big pick me when I was, I was the most pick me of all picmies because I was so convinced that. I was different that I had to keep rebranding to be even more different. And then like I had, that sounds exhausting. It was. And then I had an era where I was like, okay, I'm going to start reading now. And then I read like one John Green book. And then I was like, hmm, it's time for me to open up that chapter.

I found it. I became an enigma. I was elucid. I didn't talk. I was almost like on a silent retreat for like a whole school year because I thought people, if they knew less about me, they'd be more curious. They'd like, they'd talk to me. I'd just ignore them.

I'd be like, I don't speak. things wrong with her. Yeah, and I wanted to be weird. I didn't like to talk to me very much. And like the irony was like I was a cheerleader. So like after school I'd go to practice and I'd be like screaming. So it'd be like kind of that dichotomy was really weird to people. Like is that the same person that was in class?

Exactly. And then you just keep rebranding. And then I wanted to talk again. And I was like, okay, now I'm not going to shut up, you know? And now I don't shut up on the internet. So it's like. I was a real cringe ball in high school. I used to be one of those people that would be like like this and I'll rate you on

Facebook, you know? Oh my God, not like my status. I was one of those. Like my status and I'll tell you my first thought about you. Okay, if I liked your status right now, like, yeah. And it was like 2013. Like, what would you say? Ooh, 2013.

Yeah. Maybe 2012. Let's like kick it back to the OG days. I would say something like, I would literally say something so cringe. Like I'd be like, I love that we're language arts besties. Oh my God. Shut up. Thanks for letting me borrow your pencil.

Yeah. I'd be like, you and I just get each other. Ew. We're such good. We're such besties. Yeah. I love language arts together. And then you'd say, I own this pick.

And then I'd be like, Heena owns this pick. Ew. I hate that that was the thing, but that was it. Because people would be competing. They would. They'd be like, I own. Yeah. I'm like, okay.

And then you'd have to change the caption to Heena owns this. Yeah, exactly. And what did that even mean? It was territory. Because back in the day, like, we were still like, back in the day, meaning like 10 years ago, like, we were still colonizing the internet, right? And everyone wanted a piece of that colonization. It didn't matter who you were, what race you were.

Like, you wanted to own something on the internet. You wanted that real estate. And so... Just like the forefathers. Exactly. Colonizing. It's in our blood. That's what I was saying.

Were you born in Hawaii? No, I was born in Japan. Yeah, I just moved to Hawaii, just like a little, you know, I'm taking a trip across the Pacific to get myself over to California eventually. Yeah. So, yeah, I went to high school there. Oh, where'd you go to high school? Callahoeho High School.

Shout out. Shout out Mustangs. I went to... I went to UH for college. Shut up. Yeah. As long as we've known each other, we've never talked about. I know.

Wait, what? What do we talk about? You went to UH girl? Yeah. I was over in Kailua. Yeah, period. Yeah, I was going to say, you give me Kailua vibes.

Oh, the local girlies are going to love these jokes. I made a joke on my podcast with my sister. I was telling them about like a terrible first date I had in college. Oh, give me the tea. Give me the Hawaii tea because like, where do you take you? Yeah, because I was a real like, I was a real local girl. So like local boys. You look like you're from Hawaii.

Yeah, I went on a day with this guy. I literally told this story on my pockets with my sister, but he asked me to like come get ice cream with him. Basically he had been trying to like hang out with me all spring break. I hope he never watched this. If you're watching, nice try. All spring break, but you know like because I was underage, I was just losing my mind.

Right. I was going wild. What do you do out there when you can't drink? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You go and you go your day drunk every single day. Don't know you got a Sandy's. There you go.

Sandy's almost dying. Oh, my God, girl. The amount of times are almost around. Oh, my God. Do you remember in Waimea that rock? Oh, yeah. Girlie. One time I was like, because at this point, I was like, I can swim.

Right? Because, you know, if you're, like, raised in Hawaii to some extent, like, you can swim. That's all you can do, if anything. Yeah. So, like, and then in Cayloo, have you been to Cayloo Beach? Yeah. You know, flat island. Yes.

Girl, I used to swim that back and forth, back and forth. I was a swimmer. Look at you. I was literally Michael Phelves. That's what I'm saying. And so I was like, I'm an athlete, whatever. So I go to my Mia, the swell. She was going through her that day.

But I was like, it's okay. I can swim. Yeah. It's been proven. I jumped in that water. I almost got sucked out to sea. The way they tell you to just let yourself be taken so that you can come back. But when you're in the moment, you are fighting for your life.

I'm like, there is no, there's no, there's no f***ing way. I'm just going to let those. There's no effing way. I'm just going to let this go right now. I am going to. fight for my life. So I was fighting. And then at one point, there's like a rock in the water. And I just like, I dug my toe into it. I'm scraping that toe. And I'm like, oh my God, I am fighting. And then next thing you know, I'm swept underneath. A wave takes me and I'm tumbled onto shore. And mind you, all the

haughtyana grondees and all of the little boys, they're all on the shore scoping out who's jumping out who's jumping out of that rock. Yeah. And coming out the water. That's the most important part. Who survives. So I'm coming out of that water. So I'm coming out of that water. with like literally my top is gone like I am like crusty I'm out of breath my hair is over on the other side of my body like kelp wrapped around my ankle pretty much humbled immediately I was so humbled that day I don't think I swim again and now and now nature now nature nature she she be I'm allergic to her I know I think that too with uh with Hawaii like there are very specific places I know I can swim yeah but I'm under no I am no proud bitch

I say, I look at that water, I say no thank you. Yeah. And some of my, you know, my Howley friends, they're like, it's just like any other beach, babe, it's not. I'm like, go check it out then. It's not, Pele's out there herself and she will punish you. She's always watching. I will lay and fry like a fucking lobster on this beach before I go and test Mother Nature herself. That's what I'm saying.

I'm like, first of all, there's some things, there's a whole movie about a girl who can, you know, Moana, you know her. Yeah. She had powers. That's why she was able to do what we do. Yeah. I'm just a mere mortal. I have no power out there. I am but a mere mortal.

That's what I'm saying. That's why I said that's the part that doesn't represent me in that movie is her affliction with water. How much she loves the water. I'm at odds with the water. I feel like we're cool. I don't want any beef. Yeah.

Her and I are neutral. Like I see her. She sees me. Yeah. She did try to kill me once and I backed off real quick. I'm not conflict avoidant. My first time ever going to Hawaii, I almost died too.

So I feel that. I feel like that's tradition. That's tradition. Yeah. That's how you get. It's like hazing. Yes. In like frat culture.

You become a woman. You emerge a woman. Or a person. Or a person. Whoever you identify us. Whatever you are. Honestly, whatever. I don't care.

Anyways, what were we talking about? Oh, my terrible date. Yeah. So I go on this date and he wants me, he's like, oh, let's walk to the 7-Eleven that's like right off my campus to go get ice cream. I'm like, cool, cute, whatever. 7-Eleven was the move, huh? Yeah.

So we walk and it's cute. Whatever we go, he's like, get anything you want. I'm like, oh, gee. Oh, my God. No way. Sadie. Yeah. Also, he's a money.

He has got money. If he has a 7-11 money. So he buys me an ice cream. He gets two ice creams, which is normal. Right. He eats them like carrots. Like red flag. That's huge.

Immediately. It means he's not sensitive. No, each one, I'm like someone who can't bite things with my front teeth. So when I eat cold stuff, don't watch me because you're going to hate how I do it. Yeah, you do that. Yeah, I do from the side. Like my grandfather. So my literal.

My literal grandpa eats like that. Anyways. So he eats these two popsicles like carrots in 20 seconds each. And that's two red flags for me. Right. Back to back. Yeah. And this is something that stuck with me so severely. I still see it so clearly.

After he finishes the ice cream, we're talking. We're like, it's first day shit. So you're like getting to know each other. Right. You're like, oh, yeah. So how many siblings do you have? And he's like, oh, I have two brothers. And he takes the trash, throws it as hard as he can.

over the fence because we're walking under a freeway. Throw it hard as... What happened to Malama the Aina? That's what I'm saying. There's no Malama here. But he throws it as hard as he can. He goes, ah! Anyways, yeah, so do you have any siblings?

The way that he so casually littered and then was like... So what's your favorite color? The way that he did that, the ick, the ick, the ick that course through me. I would have had the ick, like, oh, let's go to 7-Eleven to go get ice cream. That's what my friend said, but I was like, I think it's cute. out there. You were like, whatever. Yeah. It could be a vibe. Because with the right person, have you ever been a 7-11 with your boyfriend? It's a joy. Yeah, it's a joy. It's a joy. Road trip. Road trip. Yeah. Slurpy. Maybe take some picks. Maybe like get like a fancy water.

Yeah, like a bodega type pick. You know what I mean? I literally, the way I immediately was like, this is never going to work. How did you get out of there? Were you like? We talked forever. I, I felt like I kept trying to leave and he was like, no, let's talk more. And I was like, yeah. And then he was like, when I'm going to see you again? And then you're. Like, do you remember that? February 31st, write it down. Write it down. That's when you'll see me again.

That part? Yes, ma'am. So I immediately, I was like, eh, that's so gross. The way that he, oh my God, just the casual littering, I think it was the way that he threw it so hard, but it was paper. I think, did he not think you would notice?

I don't know. It's like, you might as well just pick your nose in front of you at that point. The way he just turned around the torque on his torso, like the torque. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do. I was and then so yeah so I'm from here and I was like that's crazy and I literally said I was like there's a trash can like right here and he was like oh sorry I already took care of it I saw I would have I would have been so bitchy about it I'd been like go pick it up he threw it over a fence I'd like climb the fence I was just like are you I thought you're a man

Climb. That's literally one of their roles is to climb the fence when they litter. That's what I'm saying. And that's what I'm saying. I'm like, that is a role if I've ever heard it more. That is a role. If I litter over the fence, you're going to go get it. That's what your girlfriend does.

Yeah. That's her role. Yeah. She climbs fences pretty much every day for me. To prove her love to. Yeah, to prove her masculinity. To assert dominance. Yeah.

To assert dominance. We have like this thing going on like back and forth because we're both like kind of like, you know like we're both like I don't that me kind of yeah and so we both every time we're doing anything remotely mask yeah like it'd be like me like lifting a pile of laundry yeah and I'll be like my mask right now she'll be like she'll like um I don't know like cleaning a mirror but like maybe her bicept is out and she's like my mask right now and I'm like yeah hanging off picture frame yeah and that's why we call each other husband because it's like it makes us both feel really mask. And you know what? At the end of the day, we like to have fun. Yeah. And I'm like,

masks can have fun too. We're like, I mean, we are masks for mask at the end of the day. Okay. So we're going to get into these videos that I was tagged in for those of you who don't know. We bring videos that I was tagged. Do we bring them here. We share all the giggles, laugh. Do what it is. We do slay. Pretty much. Yeah, that's what I heard. So the first video we have is basically a guy making a skit where him and his wife act out traditional gender roles and then they swap them and it's supposed to look

dumb. It's supposed to be funny. Because he's a man cleaning. Not man, clean. Then they swap, it's supposed to look dumb that he's doing his wife's roles and his main point is at the end of the day a woman is a woman and I expect her to provide what a woman is meant

to provide. I'm sorry I'm going to throw up. Which is these that's apparently. Yeah. If you're asking me. Yeah. And you are the expert.

You are, you have a PhD. That's a pretty huge day. Yeah. That's great. That's good. So for me, I feel like this is just very typical. It is typical.

It's predictable. And I feel like also I want to see something really, if they really wanted to make it funny, I feel like it'd be like they would start already in the opposite roles and then switch roles. because then your comments would look the opposite. That's what I'm saying. Where they'd be like, oh my God, you guys are so progressive. You know what I mean? Oh my God, you're still not like the others.

You're still not like the others. They're not like, what do they call it like spicy straight? Oh my God, I hate a spicy straight. Those are the worst kinds of straight. You know who calls them that? Straight people. I don't think that's up to you. Yeah, it's like when people are like 10% like Asian, they're like, I'm spicy white.

I'm like, no, you're not. Or maybe you're just white girl. Yeah. Maybe it's just that. Maybe. I mean, I don't know. Look into it. Look into it. Google it. Yeah. But do it 23 and me. Right. But I like some of the comments on this, like this says that's, that was how relationships worked before World War II. And this is how it's going to be after World War III.

I'm assuming they're saying like men will be doing what women are doing and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know like the history about how women ended up in the kitchen? I think I do, but I don't know. During like the agricultural revolution. And then like basically women were working like men. Like we were doing the same damn thing. Yeah. And then all of a sudden these girlies were like, okay, well, I'm pregnant. So I guess I'm working and I guess I'm going to do other things too.

Yeah. And then eventually they were like, okay, well, I guess I'll be home. It was kind of like their own decision sort of to be like, oh, well, I'm just going to do this because this is like, this makes sense. Yeah. And then that became now women are inside. And it's like, girl. And it's like women chose to do that. for the better of the family and then all of a sudden they're like that's what they intended

that's what they're born to do and i always think when they're like that's what they wanted to happen or that's what they intended i'm always like who's they who's they who's this fictional person that you're talking about who's that they them in question i want to know yeah and i always ask if that's the case like who are you getting this from who's is who's your who's your like intel source that's what i'm saying source question work yeah Emily format, please? Yeah. Like, why?

I think it's kind of ridiculous, too, because if you think about just the very basic concept of, like, female roles in the house. Right. Which is like cooking and cleaning nine times out of ten. You don't eat? That's what I'm saying. What did you do before you met her? What are you doing? You never cleaned?

You never cooked before? If you did. Cleaning, I believe. Yeah. Cooking, how'd you eat? Exactly. That's what I'm saying. And if she's also working, then, like,

you know, wouldn't it make sense to be like whoever's home and willing? Right. So what? Like you get home from your job, she gets home from her job, but she has to work another job because you're treating your girlfriend like your mom? Because you said this fictional person said so. And like if you got used to being cooked for and cleaned after. Yeah.

Who put that behavior into you? Your mother? Your mom? You'd be nothing without your mommy. Is that what you're saying? So now I'm your mom? So now you love women because you love your mom. And how much do you love your mom?

Do you love your mom? Do you love her enough to say that she belongs in the kitchen? Try telling your mom that. That's why. And sometimes they're like when they say reference older generations, they're like, well, my, my grandma did that, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, you mean before it was legal for them to own their own car? That's what I'm saying. Interesting. It's, if you think about it, women have always been hunter gatherers. Right. Because they, they gathered, babe. They resource. All we do is gather. That's what I'm saying. To this day, I gather every day. I stay gathering. Gather information. Right? Gathering. Gather anything. Gather tea. Vibes. Vib check.

Yeah. The sleigh? The sleigh. I gather a sleigh. Like, it's my full-time job. I do. And if you think about it, women are the ultimate manipulators in that sense because they've convinced you that you're so masculine that you need to go out and work and earn money for them.

You think that we didn't plan that out? You think that girly pops out here weren't thinking like, oh, I can get away with not working. Are you? Slay. They said that. In the 1920s, they said that. In the 1920s, they were like, how about? And they got all the girly pops together in a little prohibition, like, little bar. And they were like, girlies, let's just tell boys we're silly. And we can't do anything except for BQ. And they'll work. Just watch. And then we just hang out and slay. Yeah. And I, and I still have my 1920s behavior sometimes. Like, I'll be on like a set and there's like a man's. I'll just ask him to do anything. I'll just wish I'm dumb. I'm like. Oh, how do I open my water bottle? Yeah. And a man's like, oh my God, I got it. And I'm like, you're so stupid.

I just didn't want to do anything. Gathering. Gathered. They stay gathered. They stay. Yeah, because actually all, I don't want to do labor. Like, point blank period. Yeah.

I don't believe in labor. I don't believe that anyone should ever do it. I don't adhere to it. I don't even want to give birth. That's how much labor I don't want to have. I agree on that. So I'm like, no labor for me. Yeah.

So my purpose in life as a lesbian is to make anyone else do my labor. And who does my labor? men. And that's called reparations. Exactly. And then they think that like, and I get them to do it for free because I'm just like, I'm like, oh, you're so mask. And then they eat that up. And they're like, I just helped a helpless, helpless little lesbian, do this. And I'm like, yeah, whatever. You just did that for free. And I was going to pay somebody to do that anyway, but you just did it for free because you just couldn't wait to prove your masculinity. The way I'm like so incredibly feminine and small brain, especially when I have to do something like get my oil change. Oh my God, yeah. Like get my tires rotated, whatever you call it.

Whatever you call those things. I tried going into like one of these situations like I knew what I was talking about because I did. I'm not dumb. But then like then the men tried to charge me money for it. Yeah. If you just pretend you have no idea what's going on. Yeah. They love that. I'm like, gives them a little something. It gives them a little something and then they can explain something to me. Yeah. And then I just, I'm like, all right, what's the coupon? code. You know, where's the group on? Where's the group on? You know what's so funny is sometimes because like the intersectional feminist inside

me is so strong and I can only keep her at bay for so long. Right. Oh, I blow up sometimes. Sometimes with car stuff I like I purposely don't go because I don't know the answers. So I like want to figure them out so no one can talk down to me. Like I'll call my dad a million times and ask him questions. I'm like listen. That's why sometimes when I have to do car stuff, they'll ask me a bunch of questions. And I'm like, for all I know, you could be making upwards. Right. What language are you talking to me?

Yeah, I speak seven languages and mechanics isn't one of them. There you go. I'll say that. Fax is my second language. That's what I'm saying. So then sometimes they'll ask me like, what do you know? I'm like, what I know is it's gray? Yeah, you could also say, you could be like, what do I not know? And then they'll just start talking. And then you could be like, I already knew that. And you're like, then you just gaslight, like gaslight. That was a test. Yeah, that was a test to see what you actually you know. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite thing to do is like when men like talk down to me, I just like let them go for a little bit. And then I just like stare at them pretty, you know, just like this. And I'm like, do you think I'm stupid or something? And just like, and then just like let that sit.

Yeah. And then they start apologizing because I don't say anything afterwards. I just give them that space to really feel uncomfortable. To sit in it. Marinate. And then if they keep going, I go, I said, do you think I'm stupid? And then they really sit. They're really uncompy. Yeah. But yeah, one time, I was doing this music video and I was like in the back and there's like this guy who was also there and I go oh like what do you do for a living and he thought it'd be quirky to say sleep

and which like I don't really care I was just saying stuff because I thought that's what people do you know when you meet somebody yeah when you meet somebody you like want to have a conversation and then I didn't press and I was like okay and I just turned my head and then he goes oh that's not where I thought this conversation was going to go and I was like okay

What exactly did you want for me? And then, yeah, but he ate that up and he was like, you're so funny. And I'm like, I'm just not interested. The way that I hate that. When you're like mean and they're like, oh, like, you're so funny. I was trying to be bitchy. Yeah. They're like, you're so funny.

And then you go, I literally, I hate you. Yeah. And they're like, no, I like genuinely, I wouldn't care if you dropped dead. Right. And they're like, oh, I love that. She's hilarious. She's so goofy. Oh my God.

She's so funny. Right. The amount of men in high school that I was like, you irritate the absolute. dog shit out of me. I can't stand you. Right. And they'd be like, ugh. I love that. I love a girl that speaks to her mind. Right. Them, them indirectly beating

the pick me out of me. Literally. I'm like, not you picking me when I'm trying not to be picked. For once. For once. Yeah. So some of the comments When you pick me too close to the sun. Not this. And you actually get picked and you're like, oh, this is what I wanted. This one says support moms for home.

if possible, which is what you said. Like your mom is essentially who did all those things for you. But I've said this too. I've talked about this a lot in interviews and stuff, but in Samoan culture, it's really matriarchal. Yeah. So in like traditional Samoan culture, men do all the cooking and cleaning. Women do the, they have children and they take care of them and they take care of the elderly. That's like our gender roles.

It sounds like equality. It sounds like equal distribution of labor. Yeah. And it's like it's very, like that's why I said like long hair and stuff. Like we have these things called Ilava Lava Lavas, which like to the regular person would be like a skirt or like a sarong. But men wear them all the time. It's out of respect. So they look like skirts and that's for girls.

But grow up. I know. It's a garment. They look so manly to me. Yeah, no, they probably look fire. That's, like, the manliest thing to me. I think, like, when men wear skirts, and I'm not going to give them that thing, you know, because I feel like, you know, these, like, white boys on TikTok will, like, wear a skirt.

And they were like, I'm doing everything to dismantle all the patriarchy. You know what I mean? I'm like, you're literally wearing a skirt. It's not that profound. Like, I don't have a gender. Grow up. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, I'm like, you're doing nothing.

Level up a little bit. Yeah, level up. Yeah, I'm wearing a suit since I was 10. Like, come on, do something different. But I do feel, like, In a lot of like, in a lot of non-white cultures, there's a lot more fluidity in like these roles. Absolutely. You know what I mean?

And like in cultures that weren't like colonized by the West, I feel like you see in their society and like the way that those people grow up. Like that they still have these like cultural sentiments of like gender roles and things like that. Yeah, it's a lot more fluid and open. And a lot of times, especially in indigenous cultures, there's a third gender too. So that's in my culture. that's in a lot of indigenous, like, native cultures. It's very prominent and very prevalent. So that's why when you have people like yourself who are non-binary and people are like,

all these new things are coming up, it's been around for hundreds of years. Hundreds. Hundreds. You just were all the way over there, not brushing your teeth. I know. Yeah. This is before anyone's time. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

And so this last comment says that was how relationships worked before World War II. Oh, yeah, again, and this is how it's going to be after World War III. I think that I watched this video. I actually got tagged in it and it was a man who was, see, you know, sometimes they'll go live. Right. Because they're really confident. One thing about a man like that is they know that people want to listen.

Right. They are so entitled to everyone's listening ears. So he was inviting other men to come on and debate him on gender roles. Okay. So this other guy comes on and I got tagged in the video because it got saved, but he was basically asking him like, what is what's your role in the relationship? And he was just going, what do you mean by that? Like, what do you mean by role? And the way they don't even know what to say because their brain short circuits past that.

Yeah. I mean, a lot of people, like, if you ask anybody about any topic that they have a really strong opinion about, you can tell who's read and like who actually has an opinion versus like who's just regurgitating information. Yeah. If you just ask, what do you mean by that? Yeah. what do you mean by over and over again, you're going to hit a wall eventually. And like the distance between you and that wall tells me how much you actually know about what you're talking about. Exactly. Exactly.

Because it's actually, it's giving cult-like behavior. If like, you don't even know why you believe the things that you believe. It's giving sheep. It's giving you never. Sheep. And you know these men hate to be caught sheep. Honestly, sheep are really cute. But, you know, well, we won't even give them that.

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Calvin Klein. Yeah, the way that they'll just, he kept asking him. He's giving beta. Yeah, he was, he, the guy was saying, there are no such thing as roles. Like, sometimes I cook, sometimes she cooks, sometimes neither of us do. Right. Sometimes she clean, sometimes I clean. It's really just, yeah, he's like, it really just depends on like timing more than anything because we both work. Right. And then the way he's just sitting there, like stone face, like, like he has nothing to say. Yeah. If you say the most basic of logic to these people, they're like, wait a second right that is not what Jordan Peterson taught me that is not what he I didn't read far enough in the 12 rules for life and then the way that like after that he goes do he gets he started

getting frustrated because obviously like when you're a Neanderthal right and you do no work as far as like growing yourself and evolving and becoming like I don't know a decent human being right um your first reaction is to anger right because you get mad that you're stupid yeah and that's like I'm so dumb. That's not my problem. Yeah. And so he got mad and was like, are you even in a relationship? And he's like, yeah, I've been with my wife now for over 20 years. Do you have a wife?

Yeah. And then he was like, what about you? And he didn't even say any, he didn't answer. Obviously he doesn't have a girlfriend. Yeah. And he goes, well, I mean, well, what does she do at home? And he's like, again, what are you talking about? Like, I don't understand. The way that it's just such, when you're so genuinely confused.

And they're like, and he just hung up on him. Get out of here. I can't. Simp. SIMP behavior. The whole thing with simp behavior. Also, I love, I, I, I'm a huge proponent of Simp behavior. I think that it is what's making the earth go around right now. Because every girly pop that's in a relationship with a man's and he's simping over her, she's happy. She's crazy how that works. It's crazy how that works. Isn't it crazy when you're obsessed with women

and then you like make them feel like that? Yeah. And like how well you get treated. And when you do that from a genuine place of like admiration and love for women. Yeah. Because one thing about a man's, Here's a thing about a man's, okay? And I don't even know men's. But I'll tell you a thing about a man's, is that they will only seek validation and respect and admiration from other men. There you go. And likewise, they only give respect, validation, and admiration for other men.

Yep. That is giving something that I'm not even going to say, because you guys can put two and two together. Yeah. I mean, the only thing you like women for is, like, what they can give you physically. Mm-hmm. I don't think you like them very much. I don't think you like them very much.

Not as people or as humans. You like them more as objects and that's more of a problem than I think you take serious. Yeah, that's giving a whole other thing. Yeah, the way that like when they perpetuate this idea that SIMP behavior is like bad. Right. I always think you're alone. Right. So it's bad to be in love with your woman.

It's bad to like be loved and give love. Right. I don't really know. Sounds like someone who's never had love. Obviously, we're doing things wrong. Yeah. By that logic, I should be it. And I always say, you know, what exactly would he have to be sad about?

Because sometimes they're like, I feel sorry for him. Because they'll assume I don't have a boyfriend or a man of any kind. And then they'll say, they feel, yeah, that's him. There he is. Ely. So I was thinking, I was a lesbian, right? When I first stepped into the rainbow, and I started dating women, I was like, okay, one of us, boy, one of us, girl, we are here, you know?

Because I feel like for a lot of people, like you have to unlearn. Yeah. Because like what you're taught is hetero, right? And you're taught, man do this, woman do this. And I feel like when I entered a lesbian relationship, if I was dating like a femme girl, I was like, okay, obviously I'm mask now. And then I would pick up the pieces of what I thought a man would do in the relationship. But like, that's not what I organically would do. right and it's not saying I'd give her the woman gender roles because I would do both but I'm like this is exhausting and I feel like there's a lot of unlearning that we all need to do in order to like actually have a healthy relationship because like even in like a lesbian dynamic like where we're obviously both like equals um a lot of people especially if you've never been in a relationship like that or like say in the past you previously dated only men and now you're dating women yeah like you're kind of used to a certain dynamic and it's actually crazy how pervasive these gender roles are in most relationships like that's such a good point

You know, like, because even like as a lesbian, I'm thinking like, oh, this is what you have to do in the relationship. You know what I mean? And then it took like many relationships for me to realize like, oh, I don't have to provide. Yeah. I don't have to do that because we can both provide. Like, oh, we can both cook. We can both do this. We could both do that.

And like now, like, the dynamic is completely, you know, finally at equilibrium. Yeah. And like, I just asked my girlfriend. I'm like, what chores do you like? She's like, I like, I like doing the laundry and doing the dishes. I'm like, I hate those things. Do it. I'll do the rest.

You know what I mean? Perfect. Yeah. So, literally. Yeah. I agree. I think even in heterosexual relationships, too, there's a lot of like, like you said, imbalance because you're taught a certain way, especially raised within patriarchy.

Right. So you're led to believe certain things. And then when you enter a relationship with another person, it's so different. Like being, being by yourself and thinking what you think relationships will be like. Right. And then actually being in a relationship is much different. It's wish. is. It's a jump scare at some points, but I feel like certain aspects of like heteronormitivity is that like

you don't talk about, only the woman talks about her feelings. The man never does. Like I was having this conversation with this insol the other day. I didn't know he was an insult. I was just having a conversation with this man's because he was dressed cool. I was like he's not an insol. He was. He was like. Like you said they're blending. Yeah, they're masking. The way that they're. The way that they're blending. Literally. And then basically like this man's was like, yeah, well, you know, like everyone withhold something in relationship like the men withhold the emotional and the woman withhold the physical so you know it's an exchange so when she so basically when she gives up the physical then I have nothing to go for anymore and I was like well if it's an exchange then wouldn't you

give up the emotional when she gives you the physical and he was like no and I was like no so by that logic how does that told me so that's what I'm saying I was like that doesn't go with my evidence No, that would make it equal and that's not how it's supposed to be. And I was like so against your own logic, like it's not an exchange then is it? It's like you're bartering. Yeah, it sounds like a robbery more than anything. I think that's so even when they say like it's the physical and she won't give it up, doesn't that sound like a problem if she doesn't want to partake in physical interaction with you? Right.

At what point do you go, maybe it's me. Right, maybe it is me. Maybe I'm repulsive and that's why she doesn't want. want to do. Right. But you know what's so nuts too in general? Like the psyche for anyone like men, women, non-binary folks, anyone. Yeah. The psyche is a powerful thing because she can convince you any damn thing. She's like, you know, she's convinced me I'm perfect. And I'm like, okay. Nice. But like for a lot of people, like, it's hard to be put against your psyche to like ask yourself to like be like, well, what's actually wrong with me? Because that's a really hurtful process for yourself.

And we all want to love ourselves. Like, let's be honest. So like if you could just ignore that, you could love yourself forever. But like, but then like what kind of life is that? Sometimes you have to hate yourself. I'm sick of this love yourself mantra. I'm like, let me hate for a second. Sometimes because I need to come back. Exactly. It's a cycle because then when you hate yourself for a second, you're like, I hate this about me. Then you can fix it and then you go back to loving yourself. Yeah. And then you find something else. It's like, I say that too. I'm like self-awareness. Self-confidence is important, but self-awareness is essential. That's essential. To exist within a society where you're a

contributing member of it, you need to be self-aware to some extent. And there's some things that you can just let go. Yeah. Absolutely. Gender roles is one of them. Free yourself is what I always say. I think too, with men especially, like, specifically with my boyfriend, we talk about, like, when we have issues or we argue or we have any sort of conflict, we always, like, talk to

each other about it after. Like, we're like, okay, this is like, he tells me how he felt, and then I tell him how he how I felt and then we kind of move on from there. But like in the beginning, he felt healthy. Healthy communication is essential. But I think too in the beginning he would think, this is another thing, like this is a gender thing with heterosexual relationships where men will say things and they don't understand tonality or inflection and how that can

bear weight on what you say. Right. So it's like, you know, men always make fun of women for saying things like, it's not what you said, it's how you said it. Right. But that's true. That's what I'm saying. It's true. Like if you think, and I explained it to him once, I was like, because he's never been rude to me. He's never been mean to me. But the thing, sometimes he'll say things and I'm like, what was that supposed to mean? Right. And so I'll tell him it's like, I learned this from my sister who's also a lesbian. Slay, right? She taught me about intention versus impact. So I've taught him that. The true gay agenda.

That is the gayest agenda I've ever heard. I am pushing so hard. If you want to buy into the gay agenda, purchase now at 555. And I tell them like when you say things, intent doesn't matter. Impact is what matters. How it impacted me. So true, bestie. Even though I know.

And I told them to you, I'm like, I'll just tell you this. I know you're never trying to hurt me. Right. Because sometimes they get upset because they're like, that's not even what I said. Right. I'm not, I never hurt you. I always lead with that too. Yeah.

I'm like, I know you're not mean. I know that your intention. wasn't to be hurtful. But in the way I felt when you said that made me feel as though. Yeah. It's all about wording. It is. And then you talk them through it.

And then he understands now so well that he'll tell me. He'll be like, well, you didn't hurt. It's not that. It's like the way that it impacted me. Not him. Not him using the terminology. Not him gaining too much information. He has too much intel.

He's too far behind enemy lines. Yeah. he grows stronger every day with the information. But that makes him a wonderful partner. Because then we're able to communicate when we have problems, issues, or anything. And then at the end of any altercation fight, whatever we have, we always say sorry to each other. No matter who started it, whose fault it is. My partner and I have the same.

Yeah, we always see sorry to each other. Because you both did something bad. Right. No matter what both people are hurt about something. Yeah. And that's like, that's what I'm saying. That's a beautiful thing to have in any relationship, no matter what it is. communication is essential.

Right. And men try to say that like it's such a girl thing to talk about terrible dudes. And also I feel like the way that so like I had an era where like I was having a really hard time finding lesbians and like basically everyone I did was by and I was like one of like their first like gay experiences and to which like they would be like I would do the bare minimum. I would just be like how was your day? How are you feeling about that? And they'd be like, wow.

you're a gent. Like, you're crazy. And, like, I'd be like, I don't understand, like, why this is a big deal. Or, like, you get them flowers. And they're like, oh, my God. Yeah. The way that the bars in hell. The bars in hell.

Like, lesbians have it, like, you know, if we're dating from, like, the other side, it's like, we have it really amazing over there. No, truly. I think that too. We're just picking up the pieces. And they're never going back to that side. And then you think to yourself, I was just, like, a decent. I was a nice.

person and I was I listened and they're like this is the best relationship I ever have. Sometimes nice guys do finish first. I'll say that. And that's and that's sad. Yeah. That is literally sad. So, so sad for women that they feel so unheard and so invalidated that the first relationship they have that's at one step outside of head of normativity.

They're finally being treated the way they deserve. Right. And then they get, and I've had it where it's like people are so uncomfortable with like that form of treatment that it almost like levels down the romantic into something akin to friendship this has happened to me where it's like now it's bestie vibes because I treat you so well and they're like oh my god we're friends and I'm like I'm trying to court you but um no no no I want you to kiss me on the lips yeah I was like literally kiss me on the lips right the second um but yeah I think it's really interesting too like I've had this um one girl that I dated

she like basically had a full blown breakdown because like I asked her about like her boundaries and like because we got into like a mini tiff. Yeah. And then because of something that I did, I didn't know that. It was hurtful to her. And then I was basically like, well, do you want to communicate your boundaries to me so that way I can respect them and I can like know how to move forward in our relationship? And she just started crying.

And she's like, I thought you were going to break up. I was like literally girly pop. No. Like what? Just tell me what's the matter. Yeah. You know? That's so sad.

That's so sad. And that's why I think it's so important. What's going on over there? No, truly. That's why it's important though in a. in like a broader spectrum to have creators like you. Because then people can see people like you and feel like, okay, that's what I want. And that's like how I feel.

And then there are other people like me out there who exist and I don't have to like settle for all this. Right. Garbage. Garbage. Flaming hot garbage. No, truly garbage rat. So this next video is a video of a lesbian woman with texting talking shit about how trash heterosexual relationships are only want to sprinkle of heteronormative roles in my lesbian

relationship. So basically she says they're trash heteronormative relationships, but she only wants a little bit sprinkled on her gay relationships. What sprinkles? I don't think she, I think she doesn't specify. She doesn't specify. Someone's like a sprinkle never heard anybody. I hadn't pumped gas in so long that I almost forgot how to do it. I feel that. I feel that. It's not the same thing, but my dad pumped my guess until I was like going to college. There are some things that my father, Larry, is responsible for, but that does not go into

my homosexual relationship. In that sense, I have, I will have like a gay man do it. Yeah. And I'll be like, go. Yeah. And they're like, oh, my God. There you go. You know, I feel like I don't want a single sliver.

Yeah. Unless it's like me a lesbian calling my lesbian partner. or my husband, that's the only thing. That you're willing to love in the door. Yeah, exactly. Because, like, I feel like a homo relationship with sprinkles of hetero, it's almost camp. Because it's like, oh, my God, it's a performance. Like, we're just, we're just, it's a bit.

You know what I mean? Yeah, like this one says, because I'm not touching the trash, boyfriend, girlfriend, I don't care who. Right. I feel that. I don't, I don't do the trash. Yeah, this is, for real, let me pay your bills, but cuddle me at night, though. I feel that that's I mean that's fair like that's I think this is yeah I think they want to be the

little spoon yeah I'm a little spoon my my boyfriend's been a little spoon yeah I'll come out and I'll say it like I am a little spoon and like I feel like a lot of little spoons out there are scared to say like who they are to come forward to come forward because I think people think little little bad yeah big good big mask be a little guy sometimes and like I a self-identified little guy I I feel like sometimes, like, I feel shame about being so little. But when I'm in that little spoon and you feel the weight of that big spoon, I'm like, I've never felt safer in my life. And I will die on that hill.

And that's fair. And I think if you guys are out there and you're watching and you are a little spoon, just know, like, it's okay to be who you are. Little. Look at me. Little and spoon. I'm little. And I'm a little spoon.

And I'm a little spoon. I'm the big spoon sometimes too. And I think it's important that people have someone to look up to who is a big spoon. And you know what? I think too, whether you're little or big spoon, as long as you end up on opposite sides, that's all that matters. Yeah. And sometimes you might be the little one. And that's what's beautiful about humans is that we're always changing.

If I'm big sometimes. There's no roles. Yeah. It's a surprise. There's no rules. And I think that we need to apply the rules of spoons to the general relationship. That's a beautiful now to end on. That is.

What do you want people to know about gender roles in relationship, whether they're homosexual or heterosexual or anything in between? We just make up any damn thing. Truly. And like honestly, if you just like let yourself exist outside, just tell yourself you don't have a gender for like five minutes and just go, well, what would I do now? And go do that thing. It's really that simple. It's really that simple. And it's freeing.

It's freeing. Like I'm dressed like this. I don't have a gender. You might think I'm a girl. I'm not. There you go. Release yourself. Look at my package.

Can we drop? I'm kidding. Release yourself from the shackles of heteronormitivity. I promise it will be so much more. Like your life will just open up and you'll see so many things. Make bread. Yeah. Crochet.

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