The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - WHO WANTS TO KISS ME? Ft. Maya Hawke | Episode 221

Episode Date: May 13, 2026

The one and only Maya Hawke is on the show this week!! Maya talks to Drew about having to watch her parents kiss in a movie during middle school science class, their favorite romantasy books, smut, getting off the Internet, advice on wedding planning, cold plunging in streams, and so much more.Maya IG: https://www.instagram.com/maya_hawke/?hl=enFollow The Comment Section on IG! https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/Barilla: Look for the red bag on shelves.Explore deals at ring.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The first porn I ever experienced was a book that I found on a bookshelf. It was like a translation of an old French literatica. Okay. And I was like, this is amazing. And I like, yeah, I do that, but like, but I do it in like an elegant way. You know, I do it in like a French literatica way. Like I'm not like, I'm not cheesy. I don't watch porn.

Right, right. I read 16th century French literatica. That's grown up. Right. That's lady life. Right. back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your favorite, everybody knows me, who cares about me. On to the guest. Today we have the living icon, living legend, the one,

the only Maya Hawk. Woo! That might be the best introduction I've ever gotten. Oh my God, I'm so glad to hear it. That's one of my favorite compliments I get from guests. I feel the, I mean, it's, I feel, I feel you've taken my words away. I love that. I'm going to suck the fart right out of that ass and it's going to be beautiful. We're going to enjoy it together. That's, you know, my dad always says, you smelling what I'm farting? Your dad and I have that in common. Yeah, I'm a big fan. But thank you so much for coming on the show.

Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. What an honor. It's an honor to have you. This episode of the comment section is presented to you by Borilla. You know those nights when you're deep in a reality TV binge and suddenly the snacks aren't cutting it? You need a proper meal. Something that hits as hard as the most unhinged clapback.

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Yes. That's pretty fun and new. Just came from San Francisco, now in L.A., going to Denver tonight. So that feels new and good. Yeah. What else is new with me? music obviously is new but awesome music is new thank you I appreciate it yes Maya gave me the honor of listening to it early oh very exciting yes you did yes you did that's pretty cool and it was amazing

and I loved heavy rain I already told her off camera but I need to say it on camera well I really that means so much to me it's my favorite song on the record I'm so glad I had a lot of fun writing it and a lot of fun recording it and just like you know some things are like very labor intensive and sometimes it just like works yeah I'm sure with your episodes like sometimes you have to like spend a lot of time editing and sometimes you're like we could just print what we got. Ready to go.

Yeah, ready to go. I love that. So talking about music, I would love to know like your history with music, like if you've always wanted to be an artist, like if you've ever wanted to be a specific kind of artist. Like why is now the time really to like really bury yourself in music, do you think?

Well, I've always, I mean, this is my fourth album. I've been doing it, you know, every record I've had a slightly different. like agenda and style with the way that I put it out and and the way I was thinking about putting it out in the way and what I wanted it to do in the world like how I wanted it to move through the world I think it's been different every time because I am also an actor and I'm sort of figuring out how I want these two careers to work and because the two crafts work together very beautifully.

Yeah I was going to ask that. But then then the the two careers you know the two industries, it's different. And so I'm always kind of renegotiating different ways to try and think about it. But I've been making music my whole, I never really wanted, well, that's not true. At some points I thought about wanting to be a musician, like, or in my early, early teens, like 11 to 14. And then I was kind of like, no, I'm not good enough at that. I've been, I'm very strength led as a person. I'm very like, if it's working, keep doing it, do more of it. If it doesn't work, never mind. I'm with you on that. I get that. I get that kind of mentality. Which is like maybe like laziness, but I... I don't know if it's lazy because you have lots of talents to work out.

Thank you. So then I stopped doing music for a while and then I started again when I left school and started working as an actor because I realized that the beautiful thing about acting school is you get to act every day. Yeah. And the weird thing about acting as a job is you're pretty lucky if you get two full days of acting in your year. Right. Like real acting, you know? And so finding other ways to creatively fill up your cup is very important.

And, like, I, you know, I make music and I watercolor and I write and I do all these different things. And some of them feel like there are times where it feels like it's important to keep that sheltered and protected from it becoming your job. Because you know when you're like, you have a dream. You want to do something. You work really hard to be able to do it. And then you are able to do it as your career, if you're lucky. and then all of a sudden the joy of it of the dream gets sucked away. And you have to figure out how to keep protecting it and reigniting it.

And so I always have to have to have if I'm doing something is my job, I have to be doing something different creatively just as pleasure. Yeah, totally. Always in a balance. Yeah, absolutely. And so, like, you know, right now I'm on tour with music, which is often my, like, pleasure world. So I'm, like, writing, you know, Sarah J. Moss fan fiction.

You know what I mean? just to keep myself balanced to make sure I just always have some kind of creative expression that isn't being commercialized. Yes, of course. And so, I don't know. Especially as an artist. You need to be re-inspired. You need to be reset a little bit.

And like redorkified, right? Like re-innocized and inspirerized. Yeah, totally. I also invent new words in case anyone was wondering. A renaissance woman. That's what you are. Thank you. You can do it all.

Triple threat. Yeah, I was going to ask if. Can't sing or dance. but I do invent words. Yeah, there you go. Can't sing, please. You're a trip and I can't sing. And if I could, God help everybody.

I mean, I think everyone can sing and I'm sure you can sing. That's what everybody says and I appreciate the sentiment. I don't know. I guess I just like, I feel like if it's not immediate, I'm like, I don't have it. So we're back to what I just. There you go. Like, I'm with you on that. It didn't come easy, then never mind.

Well, and I'm also like, God honestly, God help the world. if I find out I can sing, I'm dropping an EP tomorrow. I mean, I'm going on tour. It would be explosive. Yeah, I would have to get in the lab immediately. I think you would be headlighting Coachella in like six months. I'd have to. Honestly, I took up DJing as a side hobby because I was like,

that music industry is going to let me in one way or another. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the way I'm going to get in. A bunch of white guys can do it. I could easily do it. Oh, totally. That was my thought. And then I was like, just give me about eight months.

I'll be at the Doe Lab in Coachella. You absolutely won't. I have no doubt about it. So back to, acting and singing. I would love to know is that how does the preparation feel? Does it feel the same? Does it feel as intensive?

Does it just kind of depend on how you're feeling at the time? I've been comparing a lot because I did my first professional play this past year. Oh, very cool. And now I'm on tour again for the first time in three years. And I've been really thinking about the like pre-show vibe as an actor versus a musician. They're so different. Yeah. It's like like backstage at the venue.

It's like everyone's cool and they're hanging out and maybe having a beer and like chilling and chatting, you know. And backstage at the theater, everyone's like, brr-br-br-v-v-v-v-v-v-h-h-h-h-h. He thrusts his fists against the post, and still admits he sees the ghost. Like, there's, like, such a... Everyone's locking in in a different way.

Yeah, and there's, like, there's, like, actors and music music, have such different vibes. Like, actors are the most on-time people you've ever met in your life. Like, maybe not movie stars, but actors are the most on-time people you've ever met in your life. Like, and even movie stars, like, when it comes to the work day.

Right. Like, most of them are, like, you know, call time 605, you're there at 605. Yeah, for real. Because that's sort of the attitude. Every minute wasted time on set is like $200,000. Right, for real. So we're not in the business of being minute wasted.

Yeah, for real. And versus musicians are like, oh, yeah, rehearsals started at noon. I got there at 1.30. I was on time. You know, so there's a real, there's some cultural differences. But it's also very similar because it's really about like opening up your instrument trying to give, make as much space as possible for inspiration to come in,

try to get as much stress and tension out of your body as possible so that you're loose and free and can be kind of like a vessel. And so there's, I don't know, there's commonalities and there's differences. Differences. Which art form do you feel like mostly like yourself? Is there anyone?

I feel that art form wise, they're like the same outlets just with different lamps plugged into them, you know, and like they illuminate the room differently, but they come from the same place. Yeah. I'm more comfortable in the film industry. Right. As like an industry, I think because I grew up in it, it's intricacies in the different ways in which it's fucked up and complicated. You're more familiar with. I'm like, I get it. Yeah. And the music industry, I find very intimidating. And confusing. Would you say that's an inspiring way or in an off-post? I would not say in an inspiring way.

It's the off-putting way. Well, I wouldn't say off-putting, I would say intimidating. Oh, I see. I would say it's intimidating and I think that there's a lot of, when you're promoting a film, you're on a team. And that team is like the writer and the director and your co-star and, you know, everyone involved, and you're all pointing at something you made together,

going, look at this. And when you're promoting a record, it often feels like you are alone pointing at yourself, going, look at this. going look at this. Right. And that's where I get uncomfortable. Yeah, like bearing your soul kind of thing. Bearing your soul and then telling people to look at it.

Yeah, like drawing their attention. I'm comfortable and I want people to look at me but bear my soul. Right. Right. Like I'm obviously an exhibitionist and I like, but I like want to be like, I'm going to have a surprise show where I show up on a street corner and I just start singing and then and everyone's going to, and I want people to be there. Yeah. And I would be sad if they didn't come.

But I wouldn't want to make an announcement saying that I was going to be there and I hope they came. You know what I mean? Like it's like that is like my cognitive dissonance of like I can't figure out how to crack this puzzle. No, totally. Where do you like feel your creative process typically lies? Does it kind of change when you're like songwriting, when you're creating melodies, anything like that? Like does it feel very specific your process? Does it kind of free flow just depends?

mostly free flowing, but like there are some consistent themes. Like I usually I often do a lot of my most musical writing when I'm doing something else. Interesting. I get really inspired. Like I'm on a film set or on it like that's kind of where I feel and my brain starts like turning all. You know, like we've like kind of on brain and off brain mode. And like sometimes I'm an off brain and I'm just like, all I can think about is the book that I am reading and what I had for breakfast and that I love you. and then my pillow is soft and I should wash it.

You know, like, I have that mode. And then when I'm like, okay, it's work time. And I've got my god, like, that's one of my brains kind of like, ooh, idea, idea, idea. Yeah. And do you jot down your ideas? Like as soon as you have them? Yeah.

And like sometimes it's like voice moments and sometimes it's in my notes. And it used to be really in my notebook, but to my great disappointment of myself, my notebook has kind of gotten switched into my notes app. Yeah, I feel that. My notebooks, I still carry them with me, but I'm mostly sketching them. Yeah. That's cool though. Yeah.

Okay, you can do, okay, miss, I can do everything. I can't do everything. You can even sketch. No, I mean, I can't really sketch. I mean, I painted the album cover for this record. Which is incredible and amazing. So I like,

but I don't like, I'm not like a painter, but I like painting. You can just do everything, like I said, Renaissance woman. Well, saying you can do everything is different than saying you do everything. I very well may do everything. That doesn't mean I can do everything. Well, you know what?

God only hit me with a funny stick. That's all he gave me. He smacked me over that. He gave you beautiful. He gave you kind. Oh my gosh, thank you. And I'm sure if I got to know you better, I would list more things. Oh my gosh.

Well, we got to spend more time together. Okay. And now it's on camera so you can't cancel on me. No, I would be embarrassing for you. Plans confirmed. Okay, there you go. Perfect. Notice there was no specific dates at.

No specific dates, but it is on camera. Yeah, but it is on camera. Yeah, the record. Yeah. Okay. So I want to pivot really quick to reading because you've mentioned reading a few times. Yeah. Do you like, what kind of books do you like to read?

I've been in a bit. Okay. Well, reading is, have been a very complicated thing in my life, my whole life, because I was really dyslexic. I went to different schools to try to figure out how to learn to read. And then instead of it becoming like a, you know, okay, I'm not good at this, so I won't do it. Words and language became so important to me because it was difficult.

Yeah. And I think, you know, someone smart at a school I went to for kids with learning disabilities described my learning disability as like most people have highways. that go directly from their seeing to their comprehension. And I have like country roads that like stop off in lots of different areas. That's a beautiful way to describe. Yeah, it has to like go through your like smell center and your memory center and before it gets to your comprehension center.

Right. And I think that that makes me like really like love reading. And like it's hard and it takes a long time. But I retain it really well and it becomes it's like watching a move. Like I mean, I think that everyone feels this way about reading. But I it's like watching a movie in your head Like I just pitched reading It's awesome

But I this year I was kind of straight up audio books And like hadn't really read a book cover to cover in a while But then this year I my mom got me into The sort of like Romantasy genre Which I don't like to call it because I think it's misogynistic Like that only the women fantasy writers get called Romantasy But I did period

Yeah period. I love that But you know what I mean when I say that. Yes. So I've been like, probably read 6,000 pages of Romantic City. I've just been devouring book after book after book after book. You and me both. What are some of your faves?

I think the definitive one, like the My Harry Potter of is Throne of Glass. Oh, nice. Yeah, I haven't finished that one. I read a guitar. What book are you on? Two, honestly. Okay.

I know I have quite the journey ahead of me. You've got to get past book three. Okay. Like book two and three, do a lot of work at like, you're kind of like, what's happening? And then when you get to book four, reading it, yeah. And then when you get to book four, you're like, oh my God, I want to go back and reread these books. Because now I understand what's happening. And like I want to read it with informed with that information.

Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. And it's like, by the time I go to the end, I was like, this is my, man ever. Like this series is one of my favorite things I've ever read in my entire life. That is so cool. I love Romantic C too. I'm actually writing two fiction books, actually. Really? That's so cool.

I know I sold them last year, so I'm working on them now. But I've read a ton of them. Thank you. What are they about? Mine are about, I'm actually pulling from, because I'm Polynesian, I'm Samoan. So I'm pulling from a lot of Polynesian, like, mythological, like, lore. Oh, brilliant idea. Yeah, and, like, fables.

And they, you know, because Polynesian people had so many before, prior to being colonized, they had so many, they were, first of all, like, worshipped many gods, but polytheistic, but they had so many. different beautiful stories for describing things like the wind and the sun and the trees. Of course. So I thought there is no better setting for a romantic-se kind of book. No, I think that's brilliant. And I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it either. I think that's really, really smart. Look at me. Awesome. I love that you love those books. Are you a big smut reading fan? You like to read smut? Yeah. I mean, I think the first. Yeah. I mean, the first,

I mean, this is weird. You can cut this out if you want to, but the first porn I ever experienced was a book. that I found on a bookshelf. Okay. And it just looked mysterious and had no cover. And then I found it and took it off. It was like a translation of an old French literatica. Okay. And I was like, this is amazing.

Yeah. And I, and then for a while I was kind of like committed to literatica because I thought it was sort of like a feminine. I was like, oh, this is cool. Like this, like, yeah, I do that. But like, but I do it in like an elegant way. You know, I do it in like a French literatica way. Like I'm not like, I'm not cheesy.

I don't watch. porn. I read 16th century French literatica. That's grown up. Right. That's lady life. Right. Right. Um, that's, that's fashion. That's dignified. Yes. That's dignified. Yes. That's, yeah, that's legitimate. So, yeah, so no, I'm into it. Yeah. I love that you're into it. I love that you're looking up fan fiction and smut. I'm into it. It's awesome. I love A. O3. Me and A.O.3 go go. Me, A.O.3 go. And my Kind of my Kandasi books I've ever read, like, was, there's a Viking one I read called A Curse Carved in Bone.

You ever heard about that one? Sounds fantastic, no? Oh my gosh, it's a duology. It's so fucking tea. Why do all the titles? Like, I love these books so much. Oh, they're crazy. Why don't all the titles have to be like all the same thing? Yeah, they're like buried in ash, buried in embers. Like, it's one of those. Watch them burn. Crossbow of midnight. Like, a blood on the tower.

Yeah, they're so dramatic. And they all have to have the same like nouns and adjectives that are just like reorganized. And I'm like, these books are incredible. Please title them appropriately. Let's title them a little bit better. Can we work on getting some romanty new book covers? Right. Let's work on the marketing.

Like, I want some, like, defined, like, New Yorker style, like, like, marketing of, like, like, yeah, like to just, like, meet the quality of the writing, because the writing's amazing. I agree. And I want, like, I want, like, a dignified little New Yorker style cover and title, please. I need a little bit more variation in that. Yeah. As well. I agree.

And in my book that I'm writing, I made her 30. Okay. That's awesome. Which is period because most of them, she's freshly 18. Yeah, got to be. I'm not loving. I was like, I'm as a 30-year-old woman, I was like, no. I've even had like when I had meetings with a publisher, one publisher that I had a meeting with, they asked me, would you be interested in making her 23?

And you were like, no, I went, no, I'm not. And also she's technically speaking, she's 700. So I think it's fine. I think it's totally fine. I think it's okay. I'm glad that you're letting some women be immortals here. I think that's very cool. Yeah.

My bitch starts out strong. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. She starts out, like, on top, like, top of her game strong. Well, I want them to make them older, too, because I'm, like, I'm falling in love with these books right as I age out of being able to play any of these characters. Exactly. And I'm like, will you please write one where the main character is, like, 32? That would be awesome.

So that I have the time, so that we can develop the project together. And then by the time it gets made, I'll be the appropriate age to play one of these characters. I'm telling you. Do you have any other favorites of, like, fantasy books or even just fiction in general? I love this. Actually, weirdly, this was like a big influence on my record. There's a song kind of inspired by it. It's from the 80s.

It's called the Lioness Rampant series. It's about a character named Alana Tribon. It's by Tamora Pierce. Okay. And she's amazing. And it's like it's romantic. It's like 80s romanticie. It's not that smutty, but it's like it's wink wink almost.

That's like chapter break right there, you know. Yeah, yeah. Pants of the fireplace. Yeah, Panda the Fireplace style. But I love it's about like a young girl who wants to become a knight in a kingdom where women aren't allowed to be knights. And so she dresses up like a boy and becomes like an amazing magical night. Okay. And it's great.

It's I love it. Ooh, that's funny. I recently rewatched Moulon, which is like, that's kind of a Moulon tip. And I was like, damn, this movie is so good. I rewatched it recently. Milan's amazing. It's so incredible. And I was like, I need all the women in my books to be like this.

We must be swift as the fourth thing. Yeah. So literally be like, fuck my. dad I'm going to go to war. Yeah. Like that's the type of shit I need. I need from a girl in my book. Yeah.

I'm with you. And I'm writing mine my girl to be like, well, first of all I made all the men huge too and like all of the men have long hair, which I'm fucking with. That's awesome. And so I'm like I'm kind of going left of center for most of the books I've read because I feel like the descriptions are very like every woman is very small, tiny, dainty, that kind of thing. Every man is huge and enormous and whatever.

I'm kind of leveling that field as well. That's cool. I like that. Like I wrote a line that was like, the women are big, but the men are bigger. Yeah, that's good. Like, that's the kind of shit I'm looking for in my book. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I need some, I get what you mean, though.

You need to switch it up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, why not? What about TV shows? What are some TV shows? I watched DTF St. Louis and finished it. And I was just so moved by my old co-star, David Harbor, that his performance was, like, one of my favorite pieces of acting I've seen in a long time.

Oh, nice. I can't stop thinking about how good it. was and like like I left him like a crazy voice message being like please tell me how you do so good at being actor like I really what did you do because I want to do be good like you um and uh so I was blown away by that um what else am I watching that you're loving that I'm loving I'm like watching Rooster I'm loving Rooster oh I just saw something about Rooster the other day um what else you ever watched the show Paradise on who Lou. No. No, listen, this show's becoming a Paradise show because every one of my guests, I'm like, have you seen the show Paradise? Okay, cool. I'm talking like I work for them, I don't. Or like I'm in the show, I'm not. But it has Sterling K. Brown, James Marsden. There's a whole bunch of people. I think Shailene Woodley was in season two. Like, there's a whole bunch of heavy hitters. Shows fantastic. Okay, incredible. But it's like sci-fi, so it's like about end of the world kind of deal. Okay. But it's basically, without any spoilers, the premise is essentially the head of security is Sterling K. Brown for the president.

and James Marson is the president when the world ends. Oh, cool. And so it's like, what do you do when the world's elite has been essentially prepping for the end of the world and not telling anyone else? It's like the next part of that movie that came out this year about like the, about D-Day with the nuclear bombs dropped? Yes, yes, yes, it's like what happens next? Yeah, essentially. Cool. It's so interesting.

And honestly, they're acting their ass is off in that show. Oh, I can't wait. But the writing is like unbelievable. I was like, I find it really inspiring for the books that I'm writing now. I've been trying to watch a lot of different depictions of love, like both in like platonically, romantically, like child to parent, like grandparents, that kind of thing. Whoa, that's really, I'm really into that too.

Are you? Yeah, even like on my record, I tried to have there be like a song about friendship love, a song about sibling love, a song about parental love, a song about, like, the love between two people who broke up and are still friends, like just kind of all the different ways and forms that really deep relationships can exist. Yeah, totally. It's like, I think that's what I loved about it because they, they depict, like, human connection in a way that is so beautiful to me. Like, it's the way you can connect to people, community, like, how much of a difference it makes. Like, what kind of

that you would, like, Station 11, which came out during the pandemic. It's one season. It'll blow your mind. It's on HBO. It's so good. People like that. People like, I think didn't find it at the time because we were in a pandemic and it's about a pandemic. Oh, I see, I see. But, like, now post, it's very different kind of pandemic. But it's amazing. And it's also about kind of community, like, in the aftermath of a disaster and how the human, the kind of rejuvenating power of the human spirit.

Yeah, that's like, I think that's why I also started watching a lot of studio Ghibli movies. Oh, cool. I love the way that he writes love, like, both between, like, siblings, between romantic partners and like the depiction of love. And I also like to watch things in different cultural contexts because I feel like they depict love in very different ways from like the way American people write. Yeah. So I feel like it's giving me a lot of different kinds of inspiration and like variation. Like what kind of things do you like to look at or watch or like pull inspiration from? Or is it mostly just like personal experience? No, I pull inspiration from all kinds of things.

Like I often get caught off guard by some moment and like why it just like, you know, something just strikes a chord. I feel like occasionally something strikes a chord and it either personal or something I'm reading or watching or someone else's art or song or. And then you kind of follow that down, right? Like you like kind of figure out,

you follow where it hurts or where it makes you smile or like where you're like, oh yes, oh that's true. And I think usually truth is like my biggest guiding principle in life. Yeah. I'm really interested in honesty and in how much I think that your life gets better if you stick to it. Yeah. And when you figure, but that doesn't mean it's always easy to be honest. And not just because it's hard to scary to tell the truth sometimes, but also because it's hard to figure out what the truth is.

is. Right. So when I hear something and I'm like, oh, that rings true. That's usually what I chase. Oh, I love that. I felt like that was indicative when I was listening to your music, but also I feel like that's what helps people connect to music a lot easier when you're like way more honest. I feel like sometimes if it doesn't hit, a lot of times it can be, it can feel inauthentic or like people, artists are holding you at arm's length a little bit. But when you let them get a little close, it could be real beautiful. Yeah. Just like your song, Heavy Rain. Thank you. Loving that. is brought to you by Ring. Look. It's always comforting to keep an eye on your home. That's why I've been using Rings battery doorbell. It lets me see who's at the door and track packages in real time.

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I had this beautiful day. I went down to Lincoln Center and I was making a wish in the fountain, which is usually the wishes I wish to someday perform at Lincoln Center. Oh, true. So it seems like a good place to make that wish. And I was like, I was there. Have you been to that square?

Yes, I have, yeah. It's like very, very beautiful. There's like multiple fountains and people are moving around. And then all of a sudden, it's having this like very interesting conversation with my brother. And then just the like rain just out of nowhere just exploded down. And I just watched all these New Yorkers like magically materialized umbrellas out of nowhere. And everyone was just kind of like all of a sudden rushing and moving away into doors and disappearing everywhere. and I had the day, a day where I didn't have anything to do.

There was no reason that I couldn't just sit there at my fountain where I make my wishes and just be in the rain. Yeah. And I did. And I felt very free and very, very myself. And in, you know, like out, there's so much stress in the world in, you know, both one's own life and then also in all the information that we all have access to every day. Yeah.

And I just, we have these moments, or at least I have moments where I can't differentiate between what is a real problem and what's not a real problem. Right. Like, you know, where you're like, sometimes I talk about like when I'm anxious, if I solve the thing, the problem that I feel anxious about and it just immediately gets replaced by another problem, then the problem is the anxiety. Right. And if I solve the problem that I'm worried about and the problem,

goes away, then it was the problem and not the anxiety. Yeah. And so I was having a day where I just felt like, oh, this is my life, I know who I am, I know what I believe, and I know what matters to me. After a time of feeling extremely insecure and very afraid, I think when stranger things ended, I felt very lost and I didn't have a lot of faith in myself or in the future of what was going to happen and I was really scared. it took me about a year to really move through that feeling and that day was kind of like the day

of being like okay no I get it I see it I know what matters to me I know where I want to point my arrow that's so beautiful those words just kind of came to me while I was like soaking wet in the cab home and yeah yeah that's so beautiful I think that's amazing I think it's also like a very human feeling too I think I think sometimes I think people will find that very relatable that you as someone who's been performing at such a high level for such a long time can also have those feelings of humanness where you're like, well, what's next? Like, I think that can be very relatable to a lot of people.

Well, I'm lucky because I've known about that since I was a kid because I, you know, I got to watch my parents who are at the top of their fields. Yeah. Be really nervous about what next year was going to look like or about this or about that and like not, not have a sense of security. Right.

In any sort of like regularity of having a job. Right. And I think, you know, my identity got so fused with stranger things and in a way that I never imagined until it ended. I didn't, couldn't see it until it was gone. And then I was like, whoa, I don't know what comes after this. And I don't have faith that anything will. And I've like, you know, I was 19 when I got that job. And when I was 19, I had so much faith in myself.

I was like, I'm going to be a movie star and it's going to be awesome. It's going to be great. And I think that, like, of course I'm going to get the part in this because I'm going in, and I have a good attitude, and I'm cool. So why wouldn't I? And like, here we go. And then cut to eight years later, I have all of that confidence is gone. And you would think it would be increased due to experience and credits, but it was obliterated due to knowledge and information.

Right. And, you know, it's that classic experiment where they have people take a math test, but first they have to demarcate how well they think they're going to do. Right. And the people who think they're going to do the best, do worse than the people who think they aren't. Right. And which is usually because the more you know about something, the less, the more you know you don't know. Right. Like, the better you are at math, the more like, I don't really know that much about math.

Right. Versus if you're like, no, I remember I passed eighth grade geometry. Let's go. You know? Yeah. Well, I think that's, I think it's also very honestly empowering to hear someone like yourself talk about that kind of vulnerability. especially as an artist, because it can feel, I think from optics-wise, it can feel like you're in something as huge as stranger things. And they're like, well, you're fucking, you're totally fine.

You're feeling fine. You're feeling great. You're feeling awesome. 24-7. There's no way you're not. But that is the hard part about, you know, ascending to new heights. There is that level of like there's a greater height to fall from, I guess, like the higher up you go, which can be nerve-wracking. But I also think it's really beautiful and vulnerable for you to.

to share that feeling so openly, especially through music, about feeling very like just nervous about what could happen next. Yeah. After getting a gig that big. You know, our industries present a facade of kind of like impenetrable glamour.

Yeah. And there's a lot of glamour and like a lot of very young people do very well. And but it's, it is also a profession of constant reinvention and very little job security. Especially for women. Yeah, especially for women. And I think that it's, and also we live in like,

we are the anxious generation. And so there's both real and imagined, like, structural insecurity. Yeah, totally. And we hold these comparison machines in our pocket that are programmed, and this is like, I really, a big part of my not, feeling so bad anymore, my heavy rain moment, was really getting off the internet.

Really? Yeah, because I was realizing that not only, you know, my husband, like, his internet told him that he was a loser and that I was amazing and, like, did doing great and everyone loved me and like, and my internet told me that I was a loser and that he was doing great and that my other friends were doing great, but that like everyone hated me, like, you know, like, and I realized, oh, it's not just that the internet is bad, it's that even, even of us have our own curated crafted internet made by the companies that run the internet that are designed to get us to look at it more yeah which inherently means that

they target our insecurities our self-doubt our fear yeah our self-hatred like and that's what I am looking at it is not an accurate representation of how I'm doing no exactly yeah it's a it's like a fun-house mirror yeah it's a fun house mirror and and I realized I had to stop looking at that and then I did That's good though. I think that's a beautiful thing. It's important, I think, to cut off parts of this business that are not necessary to you thriving as an artist. Like, the internet's one of them. And I'm someone who came up on the internet so I fucking get it. Well, but like, we all came up on the internet. You know what I mean? Like in different ways, right? It's kind of, it's all become the internet now. It's true. Yeah. They're so one in the same. Your Instagram and your Netflix are like, you know, right next to each other on the same thing you hold in your pocket and like, and you're doing similar stuff on them. Yeah, and they're scrolling through trailers or you're scrolling through trailers.

Right, exactly. It's like, you know. It's so true. And I had someone on the show, Anna Cathcart, she's an exo kitty. Yeah. And she, when she was on the show, she was telling me that what she realized was that acting is like, like, it's so much more of everything else than it is the actual acting. Like, she says, I love acting, but like 80% of it now is the marketing and the. I talk about that all the time.

Yeah. It's like, I remember when I was. drama school I was like yeah you know the thing that sucks about drama school is that like my day is 80% magical and 20% bullshit and then I left and started working and I was like whoa 80% magical is crazy stats like that's bringing in in that's such high numbers of magical per day like now I was actually really lucky with how much magic I was that was so much magic like I now I'm like lucky if I get like two percent magic yeah that's very true like sparkly feeling of like what whoa, you and I were building a dream together

and we're catching flight and we're floating away. And here it goes, oh my God, I don't know the difference between me and this other person and here we go and I'm high on it and whoa, I'm crying about something that doesn't happen to me and a spell is coming over me

and now I'm laughing and now I'm in love with you. And like that kind of float is just like not in the schedule very often. No, it doesn't. It's complicated. It's very minimal. I've actually recently started venturing into acting. I've always wanted to be an actress,

but obviously I did the internet dickhead shit first, and now I'm trying to pivot, and I'm in my self-tape era. Any way that anyone comes up and finds a way to make their art is awesome. Thank you. There's nothing wrong with any way of doing it. I appreciate that. I mean, the way I came into the business, too,

I feel like is pretty unique in the sense that, like, I grew a platform by simply being really fucking mean to men, like misogynistic men essentially. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, me just ethering them kind of gave me a platform. So now I'm like, well, now what am I going to do with it? Yeah. I want to do a talk show, talk to my heart.

and also maybe act. Yeah. And also maybe write books. Yes, and write books as well. Also wear really cool t-shirts. Thank you. This is my dog, tuna. I had a feeling.

Yeah, this is my dog. The last episode, I wore a squid shirt. So this time I'm used to squid's my other dog. Oh, nice. But he's deaf, by the way. You can't tell from the photos, but he is. I have, I had a friend who had a deaf dog. Deaf dogs are really cool.

They don't bark at every single thing that walks by the house. He's honestly the chillest dog in the history of time. Like, he's everyone's like, he's a crowd favorite. He has no stress and it's probably because he can't hear. Because he can't hear anything. And so many dogs are so terrorized by their sonic anxiety. Right. Like he literally has the biggest ears ever useless.

Sometimes I wish my dog was deaf. Every single person that walks by our apartment. Yeah. You have just one dog? Just one dog. Oh my gosh. Maybe I'll get a second one someday, but I don't know. What's their name?

Lucky. Oh, that's so cute. She's the best I miss her so much. What kind of dog is she? A miniature Labradoodle. Oh, that's so cute. She's very cute. She's very good.

barker. She's a barker. That's okay. She also has the highest pitch bark. It's like, it's a, I love her to the moon and back again. I, sometimes I look at her and I'm like, I can't believe you. Like it's, it's a tone, it's a pitch that like, it's like, you know when you're like talking

to a microphone and it feeds back? It's like that. It's like so high. The frequency is so high. It's so, it's ear splitting. She's protecting the house. Yeah, she's protecting the house, but I've been teaching her, shh, whisper, whisper. And then she goes, Woof.

But then, and then she'll get annoyed and then she'll go, ah! Yeah. So we got to work on that. We're working on it. Working on it. Shh. Woof.

Yeah. Well, I know you mentioned your husband and you recently got married. Yeah. Oh my gosh. How was that? It was awesome. It was amazing. I'm getting married.

I'm getting married in August. Congratulations. Thank you so much. Do you have any tips for me? Yeah. Yeah, I do. Trying to think of which ones are on, on air appropriate. No, no, they wouldn't be sexual.

They would just be, I'm, My biggest tip is that really you're going to have a great time at your wedding. I know you are. Like, there's, what stage of planning are you at? Right now, we're getting there. We're getting into the nitty-gritty. I just like, do you have a date set? Yes.

You have a date set. How far away is it? It's another state, so. No, no, sorry. How many months in the future? Oh, how many months? From now, it's about four, four, four, four, four, four, four, First of months.

Okay, cool. Yeah. Awesome. It's going to go great. Like, you're going to have the best time. Just be selfish. Okay. Like, it will be hard to feel good about being selfish in the, but if you're going to spend

so much energy you're trying to please everyone, you're never going to please them. And then they just will be pleased. Like, they'll be so happy. I'll be stressing about pleasing them. If the day goes all, well, everyone will be so happy. Okay. And like, and you'll waste so much energy being like, does my mom like the flowers? Like, no, I'm worried she's going to hate the flowers

And then she's going to have a bad time And then it doesn't matter She's not be able to stop looking at the flowers She just wants you to be happy Even if the way And like she's nervous that you're not going to be happy If you make sure you're happy Like she'll be happy

And like so great I think that's my Try not to waste too much energy Trying to make everyone else happy It's one day of their freaking lives They can do it They can do it They can sit next to someone they don't like

Everyone can do it Everyone will be okay Biggest tip, don't show anyone your seating chart. Okay. Make it with your husband. Don't lock and key. No one gets notes. You know everyone invited to your wedding.

You know who they like and who they hate. You manage their feuds. Do not let them manage their own feuds. Okay, that's a great one. That's my biggest tip. That's a great tip. My lesbian sister, I do have some blood relatives that are homophobic. So my rule for my wedding has been like, if they wouldn't come to her wedding, they're not invited to mine.

Awesome. Bad ass rule. Thankfully, that's cut my life. guest list and fucking half because I have a huge fucking case. Also probably cuts down the fuse. Yes, exactly. Yeah. You don't need my advice is what I've decided. You don't need my advice at all. Honestly, though, that was tea about the seating chart because I told my mom, I was like, I really don't want to do a seating chart for that reason especially. I was like, I kind of want to do a first come first serve if you come, you get your own table. So that was my initial idea.

Really? I tried to do that. It's surprising the thing. It's like in many ways this year, with like with this record, a lot of things, has been like laughing at your own plans. Like, it's just kind of like, oh, right. Okay. Like a lot of like, a lot of like me having ideas and people being like, that's a great idea. Let me explain to you why it's not possible. Like I would say is like my year in two sentences is that's a great idea. Let me explain why it's not possible.

Well, there you go. You know what? You're constantly reinventing. You're learning. You got to be. Yeah. How's married life been for you? Awesome.

It's been amazing. Yeah. I think that's wonderful. I think it's great when it feels. different. It doesn't feel different. Which is a beautiful thing. But it feels like it feels like we did a magic spell. Yeah. It feels like the same thing but like me and my fellow warlock which wizard man did a magic spell and and we like surrounded ourselves in a magical bubble of light. And it's so nice. It feels like so it's like the same except maybe the bubble got a little tougher.

That's kind of how I felt when I went like got engaged. Yeah. Felt like it leveled up like nothing really changed but it did feel different in a beautiful way. Yeah. I think that's a Amazing. Almost the engagement felt like a bigger shift to me. That's a good point. Yeah. Mostly because of the way that like family reacts to that. Yeah. Like they're kind of like, oh, okay, well, hey, nice to meet you. Everyone gets real serious.

Everyone's like, whoa, sorry, I didn't realize. Got it. I didn't realize you guys were for real about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So what's your favorite caller? I guess I should get to know you a little bit better. I guess you're going to be around for a while. I think that's beautiful. Yeah. Well, look at you. You had a big year. Your own new album, got married. finished a big show I've been doing for eight years. I was gonna say how was that how was that like the culmination of it all I guess beautiful really emotional I mean like we talked about it a little bit like mm-hmm

and I feel so lucky to have had that experience I feel like the people and the friendships and like where it all ended up and the kind of like groundedness it offered me it like it's like a combination of a college experience and like of an incredible, like, you know, digging of the foundation of the house of my life, you know, as metaphorically. Yeah, totally. Like, it was just foundational, community building and really taught me about being a part of a team, taught me about confidence and endurance and belief in myself and in others in taught me

about change, like the way things can change. Like, what I thought that experience was going to be when I started it. was so different than what it ended up being like. And then that was so different than what it ended up becoming. And I'm really what I'm left with is profound gratitude. Oh, that's so wonderful. I think that's a beautiful thing. And I think y'all did a kick-ass job.

Thank you. On the ending of it all. I watched the finale in Ireland. Oh, awesome. Because I went to Ireland over Christmas break and I was like, and it was the people in my group were like, we have to watch the finale. Wait, you were with a group? Did you do like a group travel?

Yeah, we went to. to Dublin. Yeah, for New Year's Eve. Like, with a group of friends or on like a tourist traveling. No, no, no, no. For friends. Okay, in my mind, did you watch that movie? Imagine I watched with strangers. I was just like imagining you like on like, you know when you can like join like a

travel group? Like I was imagining you on some sort of like tour of Ireland travel. Yeah, then I was like, guys want to watch the stranger things finale? Yeah. No, it was all my friends. Like what was that movie called? It was amazing. Jesse Eisenberg directed it. Oh yeah, where they go on the last trip together. Yeah. Yeah.

I forget the name of it. They go on a tour of, um, of, Deast remembers, you saw it. Well, Kieran Culkin's in it. Yeah, I can't remember the name of it. A real pain. A real pain. Yeah. I was imagining you went like a real pain style trip.

That's what I thought to. And I was like, that makes sense that like the group would get together and watch Dring to that. It's pretty like, it's like a good common ground show. Oh yeah. Are you kidding? One of the most popular shows in the history of time. Yeah.

Yeah, probably. It'd probably get a few in the group to like it. Common ground. Okay, pivoting back to music really quickly. what do you hope people take away from your new album? I mean, okay, so I sort of see this album as like a journey from figuring out what you want, but knowing that you're not ready to receive it. Like, I think I saw a certain kind of love out there in the world.

And I was like, oh, that's the kind of love I want. Yeah. But when that kind of love comes at me, I freak out. I think I don't deserve it. I think that the person who is like being emotional and sweet is untrustworthy. I think that like if I'm not like chasing something that doesn't want me, I feel uncomfortable. Feeling that scene and that wanted, I don't feel deserving of it. And so I was like, okay, but I figured out that I want to feel deserving of that.

I'm no longer being like, no, that's just lame. My thing is cool. I'm like, no, my thing's not cool. My thing is messed up. And I want to be able to have the kind of love that I'm seeing. Yeah. And I need to get emotionally ready for it. And I gave myself kind of like an assignment of figuring that out.

I like articulated that. I was like, I want, I want to be able to accept the love I think I deserve. Yeah. And I then sort of see the record kind of beginning there. And then the songs, you know, getting you to the end are like the lessons that I had to learn, the parts of myself I had to give up or like open doors up to. Yeah. to grow enough to be ready to receive that kind of love.

Yeah, totally. And then the end of the record is like kind of about how that kind of love changes you. It makes you stronger and you're better for it. And you're better for it. Yeah. And it's like it's not weakness. It's strength and it's beauty and it makes you see another person so full. You can really see someone else so fully.

Yeah. Not just in the way that they either are or not into you or are you saying. Are you unsafe? Are they? You can be like, oh no, you are both independent from me. Totally yourself. You see me as independent from you. But we're deeply on the same team.

Supporting each other and. And choosing each other. Yeah. And I tried, like in that song, Bring Home My Man, I tried to kind of lay out what I thought was a realistic promises that you could make someone. You know, it's like in some ways they're like my vows. Yeah.

And then it's like a, you know, well, I know that we're not going to be daisies and sunshine every day for the rest of our life. Totally. I know it's going to get hard. I know it's going to get bad. Yeah. This is what I want from you.

I don't need you to wake up every morning obsessed with me. I need you to have the patience to tell me when you're not feeling obsessed with me and to work with me to try to find our way back there. Yeah. And I think that that's sort of what the record ended up being about was like figuring out how I wanted to change the lessons that I learned in order to make that change. and then what it felt like to move through that chain. To walk in it. To walk in those shoes.

I think that's so beautiful. And I'm so excited for everybody to hear it. And I heard it first, just so everyone knows. I heard it. Well, I mean, obviously, Maya's heard it before me. But I heard it before all of you. Yeah. Okay, so we're going to pivot really quick to some fun facts.

I love fun facts. I do have some fun facts about you, but you can let me know if they're fun or not. Okay, cool. They may not be that fun. I'm ready. Okay. So it says one summer you worked at the famous Shakespeare and Company Bookstore. in Paris. I did do that. I have been there. You have? Yes, I have. I got a tote bag from there.

And I bought, I think I bought Pride and Prejudice from there, too. That's awesome. You know that thing when you, like, you remember that you didn't do something? Yeah. And you like, it's just like a pang of guilt and shame. You bring that, like, there's one rule about living and working at that bookstores. You have to write a bio about yourself and your experience there. And I didn't do it. And they were like, it's okay. You can submit it a couple months later if you want to, still haven't done it. It's just like, I need, Scott, I got to get it. God, I got to get it. get that Shakespeare and company bio in. I worked there when I was 15.

Oh, God, that reminds me. I have to get my bio in. It's been over a decade. I'm like, oh, God, my bio. Watch them. They're going to watch this. And then they're going to be like, that reminds me.

Maya, Sylvia. I'm sorry. How was it working there? It's extraordinarily incredible. The French take so many breaks. I couldn't believe it. It's a crazy, it's a crazy, from America.

You're like there and you like work for half an hour and they're like, have you taken your break yet? And you're like, no. I just started half an hour ago and they're like, oh yeah, so breakfast break. Yeah, they're all, you don't smoke. And you're like, okay. And then I'll go take my break, come back, like stack a couple books. They'd be like, lunch break now.

Like, when am I going to get anything done? How am I going to get these books stacked? I know, yeah. I'm an American. Their work day is so nice. It's really different. I bet they're like, they go smoke and then they drink and then they do all that while working at a bookstore.

Yeah. I feel like the hour I've spent with you thus far, I honestly feel like that is the most you job to work at that bookstore specifically. It's pretty, it's pretty. pretty up your alley yeah Harry Potterland it's really that place is so nice though it's so beautiful it really is and all I wanted was to buy one book from there I did and we did have to wait in line for a little bit to get inside but it was awesome yeah you shouldn't go on Sunday no yeah no no way okay this one says you had to watch Gattica the movie that her parents met on well filming for the first

time during your ninth grade science class yes true just like just by happenstance they just happen to play it? They played in a lot of, if you ask around, a lot of people watch that movie in science class. Really? And they just were like, we're not going to accommodate, we're not going to change the syllabus for you, because it might be weird. Hey, sorry, we're not moving this around you. We're not, we're not shaping, okay, okay, nepo baby. You think we're going to shape the syllabus around you and not have everyone watch your, your divorce. Your divorced parents make out. Yeah, no, we're not going to rework class. You're, see, the world's not, doesn't, doesn't, evolve around you kid.

Nice try. Nice try. That's so interesting. Especially during science class. Well, you've seen the movie? I never had to watch. I never had to watch it during science class. Oh, yeah. I've never watched that.

I think a lot of people did. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. I'm just, I'm letting you know I didn't have to watch it. So if you were in my school, you wouldn't have to watch it. Well, I wish I went to your school. And maybe that's why. I love my school.

I was like, maybe if you went to my school, they probably would have been like, actually put on Gattaca because Maya's in here. Because we like, because actually people just like, get a kick out of watching me watch. They're like, so does she think it's hot? Does she think it's sad? What's you feeling? Okay, next fun fact.

It says in high school, you told your dad that you were, quote, going to a therapy session, but you actually went to lose your virginia. Yeah, that's true. I shouldn't have said that. I was watching. I was like my sister, like, you know, because like all my sisters get fed these TikTok reels of me in interviews and like my sister pulled that up on my phone. and was like, Maya, is this true?

Is this happened? Younger sister, my mom was like, ew, you said that in public? Gross. He said, no, this stuff is getting out of control. He's getting out of control. Mom, it's getting out of control. I don't remember saying that at all.

But you know what? I feel that because sometimes I say things on like recorded broadcasts of any kind and I'm kind of like, I'm annoying. That's weird. I shouldn't say stuff like that. Yeah. I should chill.

I have that thought all the time. I should chill with that. Yeah, I should chill. I wish I could be dignified and graceful and like only, like, be like a woman of few words. And be so cool. Be so cool. Yeah, unfortunately, I am not like that. Not like that.

Yeah. I do love to talk. I love to talk and I think things are funny and like, and then they're not funny. And then sometimes my mom doesn't find them very funny. Yeah. Okay. This one says you went on a long walk and swam in a stream on your 21st birthday and that you that it's been part of your B-Day tradition

since you were four years old. Do you still find a stream to swim in on your birthday? I would say there's some like narrative, either by me or whoever wrote that. Or the internet? There's some like, there's some rounding out of some facts there. I would say I love stream plunging.

Okay. I love to jump in the stream. I am not a person who's very good at doing the same thing every year. Partly because like my life, I travel a lot. I'm always in a different place in my birthday. to be like, I do the same thing on my birthday every year. And I always like, no, I don't. I never do the same thing on any day, ever.

I'm the least habitualized routine person you've ever met. I have no idea what I'm doing with my day every day. I wake up and smell the panic. So you start your day. That's how I start my day. Yeah. But whenever possible, I do like to submerge myself in a stream. That's nice.

Did you go swimming on your 21st birthday? Is that the first time? I don't remember where I spent my 21st birthday. I feel like 21. I was in upstate New York and I did go swimming in a stream. I remember I was I was thinking about my 22nd birthday. Okay. But it was what I was mixing it up with. But because that was during the pandemic was 22. 21 was the year before the pandemic and I. I see. Yes. So I did go swimming in a stream. I, my 21st birthday was in Vegas and it was a nightmare. So your sounds better than mine. I mean, I'm a wholesome lunatic. Yeah. That was my, that was my first and last. time going to a strip club on my 21st birthday. Whoa. And I mean male strippers because like the female strippers were great. But the men I was accosted by them. It felt like a haunted house when I was in there.

So I was like, well, that's the last time I'll be doing that. I got really into, I can't remember his name, but there's this Australian male stripper that I was like obsessed with on Instagram when I was on Instagram. He was amazing. And I really wanted to go and get selected. Amazing like in his dancing. His dancing was amazing. And it was like very intense.

and I like like you could like I almost wanted to like have him at my bachelor's party but then I got distracted I got distracted I got off the internet I got distraction I didn't book it but I still want to go but I've never been to any kind of strip club ever we should go together that seems like there's our plan there you go we'll shake hands on it great there you go it's on camera done we'll do it we'll repurpose that memory for me personally yeah because it was awful and I did get a lap dance to the song work from home by fifth harmony incredible um on stage and he did um at one point flip me upside down and shook me like this oh cool granted i didn't have the best of memories from that i will say my favorite memory from that night though is like while i was upside down and being shaken like for my change out of my pockets at that point

he's like shaking me he turned around and then i could see my sister's face through his legs and she was laughing so hard that it almost made it worth it to me because like a bit i'll all i'll it's always worth it to me. Yeah. So like the bit and the memory of the bit made it kind of worth it, but at the time I did want to die. Like it was awful. Yeah. It wasn't something I planned on doing. My mom was there too, but that's a whole other thing. That's cool. That's a whole other layer to it that I had to kind of process. It makes sense to me. We might have more in common than we think. Then we may think. What's your sign, by the way? Cancer. Scorpio rising Capricorn moon. Okay. Interesting. I'm a Virgo son. Cancer moon.

Vegetaries rising. Cool. I feel like I could sense you were a cancer. Very emotional, very in depth. Emotional? Yeah. Homebody. Mm-hmm.

Water sign. Water sign. Like cozy, cuddly. Yeah, totally. But then I've got that Capricorn who's like, I know we got to get stuff done. Those two are not always getting along. My Capricorn and my cancer, they're like, my cancer's like, why did you agree to do this? Stop.

I don't want to do anything. What do you mean? I just want to call my brother and cry. Um, uh, yeah. And then my capricorns like, no, get up, get up, get up, get up. Yeah, I think Capricorns are very admirable to me. I feel like Capricorns. Capricorns have a really Batman villain-esque layer to them where they feel very like as soon as, first of all, everyone loves Capricorns.

Like if you have Capricorn in your Big Three, you know people magnetized towards them. But Capricorns are very like, when they're done, they're done. When they're done, they're done, they've got, they mean business. Yeah, they're very cutthroat. They're cutthroat and they mean business. I've got my Scorpio, which makes me wake up and go, who wants to kiss me? I think I need to kiss someone today. I think anyone want to kiss?

Wouldn't that be cool? Wouldn't that be cool? I love Scorpio women. Scorpio women are the best. They're a blast. They're a blast. They're so fond. I love it when she gets to come out and party.

It's very fun. Would you see you identify more with the Scorpio, Capricorn, or the cancer? I really like my cocktail. I feel extremely seen by my trium. Yeah, okay, period. Okay, big words. Thank you. Love that. I don't even think I use that word right. I'm giving it to you. Sometimes I like just like using a big word for no reason wrong. See if anyone challenges you. Triangle, triangle, triumvirate. That would be cool. That seems cooler than saying triangle. Well, I agree. I think even in the limited time I've known you just now, I feel like that is a perfect. Your big three is real accurate. Thank you.

I feel like for mine because of my absolutely just disemboweling men on the internet, I feel like they assume I'm a fire sign. But obviously my rising is a fire sign. So that's probably what it is. Well, also, cancers and water signs, it's like actually the strongest disemboweling men. It's like, if you come for my friends, I will, I will become the scariest person that you have ever met. You're telling me. Like, if you come for the people that I love, me, whatever.

But if you start to come after the Absolutely not I feel you I'm like that exactly I feel like also I feel like the Virgo Makes me like extra good at being mean Yeah Because I'm a real detail oriented person yeah So I will remember yeah Like recently I did a big move I moved houses and

The moving company I worked with was awful But they lost some of my paintings and like smaller things And I really do think that they broke them and then threw them away, even when I was messaging them about it and I was telling them, you guys lost my things. They're like, we don't have them.

Like, which is funny because I have OCD and also I'm a Virgo. So like, if you think I haven't memorized every single thing in my house. Where it was, where the box was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, you're crazy. I could count every single item in my house right now.

We've found a difference between us because I'm often like, in order for me to exist in the world, I have to accept that things that belong to me will be lost and broken. That is how I, and if I, and it only is a huge problem if I am worked up about it. Right. But I'm going to try to just have like a sort of like meditative mind state about being like,

well, that t-shirt was meant to leave my life. A Buddhist kind of like these earthly possessions mean nothing to me. Well, it's just like that, that was the time I got with that pair of earrings. And now that's, they're going to find a new life somewhere else. And that's all I got. You're right. I need more of that. No, I need more care about the fact that you lost,

care about your stuff. Well, we need a little bit of each other. That's where we'll balance each other a little bit more. We'll work out the trade at the strip club. Yeah, we will. Exactly. When we're at the strip club, we'll... We'll exchange powers.

Yeah, well, yeah. We'll do a blood oath. We'll connect. There you go. We'll plug into each other like the Avatar Blue Aliens. Yeah, exactly. We'll just right into AWAA. Oh, no, I'm super.

Well, thank you so much for coming on the show. I think you're a fucking hoot. Thank you for having me. I think you're a hoot. You're awesome to talk to you. You ask great questions. You're extremely thoughtful and brilliant and wonderful. Well, now I'm hard.

So now what? Now I got a big ass boner. Now what are we going to do? See, I told you I got that Scorpio. Who wants to kiss me? Thank you so much. How many boners could I start by the wave of a hand? Yeah, you're just going to blue balls.

Everybody in this room. I think you're a delight. And for just a second of seriousness, I really do think you are a Renaissance woman. And I really do believe you to be so incredibly talented. And I think it's a beautiful. thing that you are so honest and vulnerable about artistic expression, but also just like how it can feel being an artist full time. I think that's a really touchy subject sometimes to broach with artists because I think sometimes they worry about showcasing that side of vulnerability,

especially when numbers count, streams count, like things like that. And I think it's a really amazing thing to hear someone at the level you are in your career, still talking about feeling lost or having to kind of re-center yourself in your art form and refill your cup. I think it's a beautiful thing. And I think it's really important for other aspiring artists to hear so that they don't get discouraged because this obviously is an industry, both music and acting, of rejection, right? And it's like experiencing it over and over again. Pretty much at every level. Yeah. Right? Like it's like it's different rejection. Yeah. You know, like you're being rejected from different things and in different ways,

but but it is a never-ending. Yeah. You have to figure out how to get. okay with that. Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, but I thank you, thank you for letting me talk about it. And thanks for saying that. I really appreciate it. And I think you're so talented and I can't wait for everyone to hear all of your new music and see you on tour. I can't wait to figure out what I'm going to regret having said. I guess we'll see in the edit. Yeah, we'll see in the edit. No, it'll be like a year. I usually like stand by my bits for like a year and then I'm like, ah. Your eye never I never said that in my life. Like, yeah.

You're leveling up every year. But I love this idea about no, no, that's AI. There you go. I might start trying that. There you go. So use it on your parents especially because they're older, so they don't know. Yeah, that's true. They're losing track.

They don't know. You have to tell them. Yeah. You say, mom, AI's getting out of control. Out of control. It's out of control. It wasn't even me. Wasn't even me.

You know, you could tell. It wasn't me. Honeygammon, she got me red-handed. There you go. There's a little sample of what you could hear on tour. Yeah, we're covering it wasn't me. Yeah. Every night, yeah.

Well, thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you. You're amazing. I love you. I think you're amazing. And thank you all so much for tuning into this episode of the comment section with the iconic Maya Hoc, obviously. For maybe the one person that was born yesterday and watches this and doesn't know where to find you, where can everybody find you? You can find me, even though I said that I don't have Instagram, there is a profile that does exist that is being run by someone else. But I supervise all of it. I'm just not there.

I'm just not looking at it. I'm deciding what goes out, but I'm not looking at the things that come in. Right, right, right. And you can find me on Netflix, and you can find me on Spotify, and you can find me on Apple Music, and you can find me on band camp, and you can find me on Disney Plus. And in the nearest stream. And you can find me on, yeah.

Cold plunging in a stream somewhere. And in a stream somewhere. I'm around. Oh, and you can find me on my website, myahawk music.com. Yes, exactly. Well, thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming on the show. You're fucking ledge.

You are. And this is so fun and amazing. Thank you all so much for tuning in. Don't forget new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming pop-ups for the video right now is on Spotify and it will soon be on YouTube. Make sure while you're on Spotify though, you stream all of Myahawks music, obviously. And we'll see you next week. Love you.

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