The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

Lock in team, the one and only Rebecca Black is here this week!! Drew and Rebecca discuss the pop mothers who have influenced them most, Rebecca’s boiler room sets, DJing at her ex’s house, poppers, spending the day with a hater, lesbians who love Joe Jonas, getting caught eating spaghetti at Disneyland, mailing Zac Efron a yearbook photo, and so much more. Listen to Rebecca’s new single “Sugar Water Cyanide” releasing on December 5th, and presave her new album “SALVATION” out January 17th here: https://lnk.dmsmusic.co/rebeccablack_salvationRebecca IG: https://www.instagram.com/msrebeccablack/?hl=en Rebecca Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@msrebeccablack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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On to the guest. Today we have the iconic, the legendary, the multifaceted and talented. Rebecca Black. Hi. Hello. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. Oh my gosh, I'm so happy. I'm honored to have you. Oh my God. I'm excited to be here. Right. This is our first time meeting in person, but I feel like we've known each other for a long time. It feels like we have.

I've admired you from afar in the same room for sure. Likewise. For sure. Likewise. And not in a weird way. For me, borderline. I'll be honest. Mine was. I don't know. Well, how have you been, Queen? How's life? I think good. I've been just like head down. So it's actually nice to like sit and chat and talk. And key. Yeah, and key. You have to. I have a lot of key. But I've been good. I've been good, you know. I've been busy. You've been working. You've been in that stew cooking. We've been, I've actually been out of the stew cooking. It's been sitting. Well, now we're seeing the fruits of your stew. Yes. The fruits of your cooking. It's been in the fridge. And we're finally bringing it out. Exactly. Exactly. It's time. Yeah, it's been, it's been fun. It's been fun. And your new. single trust, may I, dare I say, a bop. Thank you.

I love it. And I told you this before we started rolling, but I love a Kunti gay pop song. You can never have too many. Right. I think that's been like the year, it's been the year of Kunti Gay Pop, and I'm determined to bring it into the following year. I love it. And also, can I also say, I love your boiler room sets.

Can I say? I'm a huge fan of them. Thank you. I think it's iconic. Thank you. So I have lots of questions, but first we'll start, start with the music. So how has your most recent music journey been? Like how does this differ from your earlier work, would you say?

I mean, I've been doing this for a long time. So there's been so many different iterations of like me thinking I know what I'm doing and, you know, either falling on my face or just getting my, getting information and figuring this whole thing out. in the last like four years have been like a really steady um i feel like journey of figuring out how to like put what's in my head on a paper um with everything that i do and i definitely think like this last um this current album that i'm putting out and um in the process of releasing like feels like it couldn't have existed without literally everything that came before totally And it's just exciting to see people really like get it.

Yeah. And respond to it. Absolutely. I know a lot of people see my name and they think one thing or they have expectations. And I love to betray them. Right. Exactly. So it's been really, really exciting to see people like see what I've seen for a long time.

Absolutely. And your I would say a gay icon. And I think I would love to know how your experience has been as far as being in the queer community yourself. And then also, like, having such a strong queer fan base. Like, how has that been for you? How has that shown up in your art, in your music? Yeah, I mean, like, same thing. It's been such a long kind of journey of navigating it.

And also the landscape of music has changed so much over the past, like, 13 years. Yeah. Whereas I think even, like, five years ago, I remember, well, maybe it was a little bit long. I don't know, whenever it was that I was, like, figuring out my sexuality, which was a little longer than five years ago. But at the point where I was like starting to make gay stuff, I had a lot of people tell me like, I don't know if you want to make this a part of your brand or like pigeonhole yourself or anything. And now it feels like every artist is dying to be gay.

Right. Like they wish and pray that they are gay because it's the year of being gay. So I don't know. I mean, for me, like I've always just lived my life like, as a huge fan of the pop space as a queer person. And I owe my life to gay people, like even before I knew my world and my piece of being queer, like, gay people were always the people who rooted for me when everyone was like, I don't know about her. Yeah. They were like, she's fierce.

Trust me. You guys are sleeping on her. Trust me. And it's because of them that I was like, maybe. Maybe you're right, I guess. I don't know. Um, that's so T. I love that. It's, I mean, it's true. They're never wrong. They're never wrong. They champion a horse. It's going to win. So whatever the world is like shitting on and the gays are loving it. I mean, look at Addison. Exactly. That's a perfect example. We have been on Addison. When Obsessed came out, I was possessed. Like, I was loving it and was like,

what do you mean? And you said people don't see it. People don't see the art. No. And here and here she is. That's true. They're like a. The gays are like, when they pick shit they like, especially music, artist, culture, they're kind of like that octopus that used to pick the World Cup winner. You know what I mean? They'd be like, is it real? And I mean, he has no losses on the board. I'm going to listen to them.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, what they like, I'm going to listen to. Exactly. And they picked you. Exactly. And I remember seeing like a tweet once that was like every gay is like born with essentially like not like a godmother, but like a woman that he will have to. to or they will have to defend for the rest of their life whether or not like life or death matters

on it so it's you know I just I really appreciate the way that honestly it's given me so much confidence over the years to like know I have a world there and and gay people are like such a big part of my audience and so too their geniuses yeah they really are and they know their shit they know they know they know who's fears and who's not like you were saying they do they were like you guys are going to wish that you were on the ground floor exactly exactly and so how has it been now like how do you feel towards the music industry now like as far as like your evolution and your career and how you've kind of matured within the industry honestly like kind of grew up in there so like how do how do you how do you feel towards it now versus how you used to oh that's an interesting question

I mean it's it's a weird place and it's changed so much and it's It's still, I was just having a conversation about like the way it is literally changing in its structure all the time. And I think it's really exciting to watch pop have like the renaissance that it's having and see the way that like I remember six years ago in 2018. Like we were all viking to rap music, which I love rap music. But there were no girls. Like it felt like there were no, it felt like there were no, it. felt like Pop was in a place where it could really be pushed forward, which is funny, because that's where you have like the Charlie's and like Sophie and all of these like

inventors of where Pop is now kind of like kind of first having their seeds be sprouted. So it's just exciting to me to see Pop be in a place where people are like really appreciating world building. And I think like the chapels and the Sabrina's and the Charlies and all. of the girls that are out there right now are like really opening up a landscape to show that like people want to see you take a risk like people want to see you push them and and that's something I've always known about my audience from like the jump when I started making my the music I really wanted to and it's it just makes me excited to keep going and I hope everyone sees this as an opportunity to like do more yeah do more because people want it and that's such a good point and also

like leaning into what makes you different as opposed to conforming which is typically what goes the pop route or like women who are fitting a very specific mold but now it's like a renaissance like you said of pop where it's like they're almost craving something completely different than people haven't seen before yeah which is also like nice because I think there was a a period where like TikTok started popping off and every and TikTok is huge for music still and I don't get it I don't I drive but I like just watch and learn. But it's nice to see people, I feel like, time and time again, no matter who tells me it's not true. Like, people appreciate an album.

People will say time and time again music videos don't have a return on investment. Like, yes, they do. Yeah. Especially on social media. Yes. All what people pass around time and time again. And I see it with like Gaga music videos from 10 years ago or Lana music videos from 10 years ago. Like people pass around.

something that shows you who they are and identify with that. And like that's, that's what raised me are those girls. So it's really exciting to, I don't know, be in a place where I can be like, see, I told you we needed to do that. And be right. You know? Yeah.

I mean, the trust, like music video is as an independent artist, like, it's not easy to put something like that out. Yeah, I know. Because it's expensive. For sure. And I look at my bank account and that dictates what I can do. And it's just really, like, exciting to see people embrace that because it lets me do more. I was going to ask, too, like, what were some of your pop influences?

But you mentioned Lady Gaga and Lana. Yeah, Lady Gaga, I was obsessed with her. Really? Every time I look back, because my sister's a lesbian. But every time I look back, and I'm obviously not, I just fucking hate men. But at least once an episode, I have to mention that my sister's a lesbian. Anyways, that's just part of my thing. That's my hidden Mickey.

My hidden Mickey in every episode. It's mentioning Jason's up. Anyways, so my gay sister and I were like every time I look back, because when my sister first came out to me, I was like, what? I would have known. And I look back, I'm like, well, yeah. Yeah. Because we learned the entire bad romance choreography in 2009. And we would do it all the time.

Like we would play the music. We'd like, hey, play it, play it, play it. And then we would do it. And we would record ourselves doing it. So, you know, yeah, a lot of the shit I love, I've always loved, like, especially culturally, has been what women and gay people love always. Yes. And like you said, they're always right.

They're always right. Lesbians love Gaga. They do. Every single one of them that I know. We all, like, there's, yeah, there's, there's, like, societal counterpoints that you can be like, okay, yes, that makes sense. Another diva that they picked, and everyone shat on when she was, first out. And when you look back at like old like early day gaga videos, even just like the random

shit she was doing. Yeah. Because she was doing a lot of crazy random shit. Like the references and the things she was putting in front of like such a large mass scale of people are shocking. Yeah. It's literally like so far ahead of her time. It's scary. Yes. And it's like this bitch was living 25 years in the future. Yes. It's sick. It is. It is. It's sick to know. that like a 22 year old or 24 year old however she was when she did like um paparazzi and and bad romance and all those like it's so cool to know that like guys people have been ready for this for years i mean Madonna like it goes so bowie it goes so far back for what people are down for but um yeah Gaga is a huge influence for me Madonna Gwen honestly like early like Gwen Stefani love um Orange County girl and and Lana those are like my love my four mothers yeah and not to pivot but kind of to pivot I'd love to talk about your boiler room sets sure I'd love to know how you got into DJing how do you how do you how do you like it like what drew you to it obviously other than the gay underworld because I know and by that I mean

underground the underworld they do love the gay satanic underworld and I'm all in there trust me me too I know that it's huge for them but I feel like boiler room is kind of moving to like people are starting to see it a lot more now because it's traveling around on social media. So I'd love to know how you got into DJing. I started DJing like, I think it was at the end of, like probably this time, 2017, which was seven years ago, six years ago. Oh, damn.

And I started at my ex's house, as you do, surrounded by a bunch of lesbians. And basically someone just had a controller and would like kind of play at house parties and just like nights where we would all hang out. And I just wanted to try it and thought it was cool and thought it was like could be something really fun. And I started just doing that. And then I started playing like little L.A. raves and like parties around town. Like there used to be this night called Candy Pop at this place called the satellite that's no longer existing. But I would just like, I mean, that's kind of how you start DJing.

You're literally like, I'm a DJ now. And I would like to play and see who believes you. Yeah, girl, please let me come and play. And I remember, like, my first few gigs, like, I was clueless because you get up there and now you're not on a tiny control. You're on, like, CDJs, which are, like, big and a lot more buttons. And so I really just learned through, like, playing gigs over the last six years and practicing some more.

And it's been, like, a thing that I think not a lot of people have known about. that's been a big part of my life and love it i love your sets i mean i i love to play i boiler room was someone something i was really surprised to get an offer for at that point because that's like i've been such a huge fan of electronic music for so long like i remember being 12 and hearing like scrillics is scary monsters and nice sprites that my little brother put me on to and being like this is crazy like it music can sound like this what and And so it's been something that I've loved for so long. And it was just so cool to get the offer to do it.

I was so scared to do it. But it went off. And how was the energy in there while you're doing it live? It was crazy. It was literally like 6 p.m. Was it really? Yes. Damn.

So I was nervous because I was like, I'm in Washington, D.C. It's 6 p.m. Gay people don't leave their house before 6 p.m. Who's going to be in this crowd? I'm scared. I was scared. I was scared for sure. And, um, and I went up there and like 15 minutes in my set, someone offered me

poppers next to me. And I was like, girl, it's literally 615. You saw and you said, I'm home. I was so excited that someone asked me, but I was like, no. You said honored, but no, thank you. No, thank you. I don't like poppers personally. They give me a headache.

Right. Um, I don't know if you ever done poppers. I've actually never done poppers. No. Okay. Well, I've brought some. Well, that brings. us to our sponsor for today.

The gay person who offers you poppers. But it was great. Like, it was crazy. I mean, the barricades, like, broke in the middle of the set.

So you see, like, security behind me trying to, like, get everyone off the stage. The CDJs also were literally, like, moving like this throughout the whole set

because it was just... So lit in there. It was crazy. It was... Damn. I got this bitch jumping. Damn. But they were,

like, they were ready from the beginning. I love it. And I just get excited because I like I spend usually the week before I do a set literally just like deep on sound cloud looking for the like most unhinged remixes I can find like I open the set with this Hannah Montana. Nobody's perfect like 150 hard techno remix naturally. Exactly. And I heard it and immediately was like this is what I will play first. And it's just cool to see.

I open with that knowing like y'all are you the. going to get this or you're not yeah and immediately people were in and I was like love good vibes then yeah how would you compare performing like sets as a DJ versus like singing like a performer it's so different it's so different I mean I I have a live show that has dancers and choreography and props and boobs and can I say when Rebecca Black does choreography bitch she does choreography with a capital C bitch thank you you're up there moving bitch I'm I try, I try. Yeah, I love it.

I mean, I've been working with this choreographer, Richie Jackson, who did, like, bad romance and, like, all the early Gaga stuff that he just, like, gets what I want to do. And we work so well together, and I live for that. But DJ sets are so, I am in, like, I'm not looking around. I watched that boiler room set, and I was like, girl, have some fun. You look sad, Queen. You look so serious. I'm not trying to be cool. Like I am literally just like, where is everything?

You're locked in. I'm locked in. And so it can, it just is so, it's so different. It's literally just me. I walk up there. I do my thing. I go. And with like a live set, like, and also that's the difference with DJing is I don't

really plan my sets out. Like I plan my first song and I might plan my last song. And everything else, I just kind of like throw a bunch of shit in there. like let's see what I feel because I like to see what the room what the vibe is yeah yeah yeah um and with a live show like it's you know we know what we're doing to the minute and the second yeah so it's just like a different kind of um adrenaline DJing I get way more adrenaline I think beforehand because I'm like what the what is going to happen out there probably too because it's like you're a vibe curator at that point yeah the energy is consistent on you right exactly

Whereas like my live show, I'm like, you come and you get it or you don't. And that's not my problem. Take it or leave it. Yeah. And DJ, it's like, please like me. Is anyone unhappy? It's like throwing a party. Yeah, exactly.

You're hosting the party. I hope you're having a good time. Can someone let me know if you're not? Yeah. Honestly, honestly. But yeah, it's different. But I like having both. And I was honestly like scared to DJ, I think, for a long time on bigger stages.

because I was like, I am relinquishing a piece of control into, like, technology, which, again, with my show, I'm like, even if the whole system fails, I'll just be like, hello! Yeah. And I can, like, make it up from there. Whereas I think with tech, like, CDJs, there's always something fucked up in there. Like, something always weird happens. So it's, you know, it's fun.

I will ask, too, when it comes to DJing, it's very male-dominated field. Like, how has it been navigating that as a woman? And a queer woman on top of that. It's weird. It's weird. And then throw the fact that you're Rebecca Black on top of that and it's a little bit weirder. Yeah.

I mean, that's what was so interesting about Boiloo Room is like I did that knowing that, okay, either people are really going to have opinions on this or they're not going to care. And that's totally fine too. And I think it was fascinating to see a couple clips like get posted from Boil Room before the set even went live. And everyone was like, oh, not another celebrity DJ who like doesn't know what she's doing and like is not pressing any buttons or whatever. And it was just like a very fast kind of this is not going to be good. Yep. Even though they'd seen maybe like 15 seconds of an hour long set.

Yeah. And it's fascinating to watch the like electronic world and dance world I think is still like very largely gate kept. And I get it. place where like people are really embracing dance music and queer people are really like being I think pushed to the forefront. Thanks to a lot of like amazing trans DJs and drag DJs and even like someone like Charlie like bringing boiler room and like that kind of music to the forefront. But a lot of like white boys had a lot of thoughts and opinions.

Oh, I bet. I just want to them to listen to the set. For me, I'm just like, the set's not out. So I don't know what you've watched. And also, do you know how to do it? Like, I always think, like, I'm here and you're there. So, like, one of us is clearly more skilled than the other at the craft. That's what I'm like, you're never truly alone because there's always a man waiting to tell you something you could have done better.

Always. Always. There's critique waiting for you. Always, always. And at this point, like, I think being on the internet for so long, I love to watch the conversation happen. Like, I will sit back and just. just let I feel like Regina George and mean girls where like I'm like I just give you I gave you the info yeah saying there and off the shoulder top this isn't about me yeah really like if you want to

feel like big and mighty on yourself as a boob boop man I meant to say man hello as a boob or a munch if you will as a munch as a munch um live your truth but like I think if anything these conversations are um only like lighting the fire under all of the women in music and gay people and like um marginalized people in music to like fight for their voices harder right so good luck yeah i was like well you guys have the chain smuggers so go look at them like you don't have to look over here love nobody's looking go over there that's okay exactly i'm not saying you can't go watch him totally totally there's two of them right yeah obviously plural i don't know you can point to any two white guys and i'd be

Like that could be the chain orders. It could be Glenn Powell. For all we know, it could be both, you know? Exactly. But that's actually a good transition into, I want to talk to you about dealing with hate online because you're a season vet, I feel like, as am I? No. No.

You know, why did something happen on social media that I should be familiar with? I must have been napping. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know who that was. But I would love to, first up, before we talk about that, I do want to commend you. And I find, I admire you greatly. Just for your, obviously, you're very real. and valid talent but also um for how you've like grown throughout the industry and how you've like

really like in a in a very awful time on the internet you're you're still fucking doing it man like you're still here you're still fucking succeeding like that shit did not slow you down not even one bit so i want to give you your flowers for that because it's fucking hard like you especially i want especially at the time right like the way it was like unparalleled hate like it like on another level right so you've experience what very few do, I feel like. And you're still here. And you're succeeding. Thank you.

Because, and where the fuck are those people at? Exactly. Well, they are at the chain smoker sets. Naturally, you know? And no hate to the chain smoker's. I'll give you hate. I don't know. I'm just kidding.

I don't know. Are you bad guy? Let me know. The jury will check back in with me. But I do want to give you your flowers for that. I just think I think you're incredibly strong and talented and courageous. Thank you. And I'm so, I commend you for not letting that stop you from putting your art onto the world.

It would have been a disservice to the world. Thank you. As you not kept going. So I think you're amazing. But I do want to ask you about, hey, like how have you been able to kind of process and keep going throughout your career? Yeah. I mean, it honestly has been, well, it's been something I've done a lot of therapy on. And I have, God, I've talked about this so much in some.

sometimes I really don't even know what to say. But I think I am lucky to have an urge to dissociate at times. And that has been one of the protective mechanisms that has really helped me and also probably hindered me at moments of growth. I think it's really, the big, challenge that I had to face within myself was just being as young as I was. I was 13 years old. when Friday happened. I never know how to say that. Like when Friday hit the hit the second tower.

I don't know. That's your 9-11. And that's mine too, bitch. You know what I mean? Oh no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's the only way to get through it. I promise you that.

But anyway, I like being that young and having so many people be so quick to be like you did a really bad thing. Like you really fucked up. Which is like what? Exactly.

Was it bad or did you just like not care for it? Like those are two very different trains of thought. You know what I'm saying? People on the internet really use the internet as a tool to like unleash their frustrations. And I think at the time. And project. Yes. At the time I didn't know this being that I was a kid.

But yeah, I just, I. I took, I think I was in a place where I had no sense of self and I was just like trying to figure it out. Like I was, well, because you're a child. I was, you know, in the eighth grade. Yeah. And being that young, it just was really hard to, I think, develop like a identity that wasn't based around what other people thought of me and being accepted. And so that's been a challenge and doing that in an industry where like people hate women a lot of the time and have such unreasonable expectations of women just made that even harder.

I have crazy stories about crazy people I could tell for many days. But I just feel really lucky again to have always had even when at times it was maybe two people online rooting for me and being like, you got this. I feel really lucky to have them. And also to be in a place where like I would not. be where I am now if it weren't for the people who I've met in the industry over the past few years who have been like no go yeah like you got it I'll step back I'll help you out but like do what you got to do yeah um and it's so it like hate and opinions and and all of that like just feel so

outside of my orbit and like I love that I think that's great I think I've watched so many people on the internet like really struggle with with criticism and it's not even criticism like criticism is one thing hate hate and and like the cancellation and everything and like it feels like a war that you have to win by like saying the last word right exactly yeah what I've learned is like the last word is being so unbothered by it yeah and I feel grateful to like be at a place where like I'm pretty unbothered yeah Yeah, to a degree. Period.

And, and yeah. And that's a good thing. And that's fucking awesome. And it's like in damn near impossible. Like sometimes when, you know, there's criticism about like influencers, for example, because I'm a dickhead influencer. But when like there's criticism about it and they're like, oh, you know, when influencers complained about shit, it's annoying.

Like I would get, I would die to do something like that. Which I'm always like, I get it. Trust me. I worked a lot of fucking regular ass jobs before I did this. So I get it. This is not by any means. hardest job in the world. But sometimes when people say that shit, I'm like, you think that. You think anybody could do this? Yeah, you think that. Because all you see is the good stuff,

the fun stuff. Right? I was like, but what you don't see is when everybody turns on you. Yeah. And I said, that's a feeling I wouldn't wish on anybody, to be quite honest with you. It's truly awful. And like, having only done this for like the last three, four years, like, obviously, given my niche, it's to be expected that I will get when I run and punch the someone in the back of the head, I have to expect they're going to turn around and want to swing, too. That's just typically what happens when I attack awful men. But, like, so if I thought, like, getting hate was like, like, that kind of hate was, you know, unfair to me or whatever, that would make me a hypocrite.

But I always tell people, I'm like, every time y'all think of hate, you only think of, like, trolls, right? Like, just trolls, which are a facet of hate, obviously. But the other side of hate you don't see is, like, hate that's disguised as, like, valid or it's disguised as, like, oh, this is a reasonable, like way for me to talk about how much I fucking hate someone I don't know right which is I think insane like I think you're insane like yeah I'm 27 27 you not even knowing okay so I'm 29 so we grew up on the internet around the same time yeah so like I've never in all my years of being a

voyer on the internet before I became this person like I've never been like I'm gonna leave a fucking hate comment I've never been that person so I can't even relate yeah to that kind of like energy yeah no saying like at all any sort of unsolicited I literally cannot relate to it so I it it's like what you said like there's really no rhyme or reason to it and there's and trying to figure out why or trying to fix why is like you're going to be chasing ghosts forever there's no way because someone someone's going to hate you regardless yeah I mean they'll like we're all figures to people and we're all not real like I there was actually this one thing I did years ago There was a show that aired for like three episodes.

And I think it was called Hater. And it was like some random CW, like kind of coming out of the early 2000s trash reality TV situations where there were like all those really bizarre shows. And basically kind of like like punked or like one of those type. And they had me shoot an episode for it. And I was probably 15 or 14 at the time where basically you would have, they would find. if they would cast, like a real, like, hater. That's crazy.

I'm already checked out. Oh, I'm not doing that. And every episode, like, I think Kim Kardashian did an episode, a few other people, and you would spend the day with a hater. And doing what? Running errands. Basically. Basically.

And the whole point was to, like, in some very unsettling way, like get this hater to humanize with, you and for the person to humanize with the peter or whatever and so i did this like i spent the day with this i think it was a woman in her like late 20s early 30s who oh when you're 14 yeah yeah and we had a conversation at the end of the interview where like i basically was like fully in tears like not understanding why this girl was just like going off at you at me yeah the whole day was just like I hate I mean back in hindsight just in general conversation oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no it was what I would love to rewatch this footage but basically

at the end of the of the of the point I'm getting to is at the end of the day we got to this conversation where she something literally like clicked in her brain and she was like I didn't think you were real like I didn't think you were real person And it took 12 hours of literally being next to this girl, like in every Uber we were together, like in every or whatever it was. Like we were, she just couldn't get this like, ugh, out of her mouth of like, I hate you. It's so unfair. And then we probably got into this whole conversation, blah, blah. But it's really real that people don't.

They really see you as like, you're there for their entertainment, you know, which I. I get it. Like, I'm a pop star. Like, I'm there to... To entertain. To entertain and do, you know, choreo for you and make you feel good about yourself and escape and all of that. But the depths that people take it to is... I'm just like...

And I promise I'm not laughing at you. I just find it absurd that, like, a woman in her old, like, 30s is going like, God, I fucking hate this kid. Get a load of this guy. Like, just the thought of her sitting there with a camera... Yeah, I find it. fucking yeah I hate you yeah that something about you just really makes me mad like I don't know it never aired but I would I just would love if anyone knows I and you know what I'm glad they

didn't because it's a really horrible look totally like honestly I wish I wish they did just to show how fucking stupid people like that look when they're like they're airing out what they feel is something very valid and then to say it out loud it's like reading your hate comment out loud to the person you wrote it on like yeah do you hear how fucking dumb you sound like do you hear how mentally unwell you sound in this comment it's misplaced it's definitely misplaced and like i i get i get why the internet is like a place for people to use their anonymity to kind of like you know again like unleash whatever it is on people but there's so there's so many other ways we can work that out girl like i i think it's exciting that we're in a place

where clear like times are weird the energy in the air not great right now yeah for the world and i think people are looking for a way to cope and seeing the way that like dance music and pop music and like everything can be a real a real escape like a real unleashing of energy a real like like voodoo doll that you can use on yourself to experience joy experience joy and like find community absolutely that I'm hoping in time we're in a place where things will work and so about. But I'm not always, you know, confident. Confident. Yeah.

Yeah. And the internet doesn't help with that either. And it's funny too because in a few interviews I've done, I've talked about like the highs and lows of the internet. Because obviously, like, given what I do, I see very awful parts of it. And I've like said before, I'm like, I think the internet, like most things in the world, like as much good as it comes with, it comes with a lot of bad too. But I feel like the good definitely outweighs the bad in a lot of ways.

Yeah. So that's why I'm always like, as much as the internet pisses me the fuck off sometimes, like for the most part, generally speaking, it can be a really beautiful place to find community or to build audiences. And like, I even had Mary Beth Brone on my show not too long ago. And she is a comic and she's been a comic for a long time. And so she was saying like, she loves the internet because it allows people to build audiences like on their own whereas like before you'd have to go these very traditional

routes that are very exclusionary and they don't include a lot of people so like I've said that before too like if I didn't have the internet like chances are someone who looks like me and talks like me and thinks like me wouldn't be given a platform to be able to like reach an audience so it's kind like you have to build it yourself and I think that's what you've done like because of your consistency and your talent like you've been able to establish a very long time fan base it's just growing and growing and growing with time yeah and now you just have people being like I've been known about her. I knew back in 2010. And girl, I knew you were there because, again, there weren't many.

So I know your names. I know everything about you. You ever had any weird fan interactions? Oh, yeah. Or rude. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're extremely rude sometimes. Well, actually, my fans, I think are truly like some of the coolest people I've ever met. You're right. We should distinguish. People who recognize you and then there's fans. Yes. Yes. Yes. I've never had like a I'm trying to think of I've had for like a rude fan moment even though that would be fierce honestly if someone was just like brashing through but no I've what I've heard from from people who come to my shows and and who I've met is like that the it's such a welcoming energy which is which I think is like on that comes from what we set forth and like the you know kind of rhetoric that we give our people because that that is the thing is like

you are building an audience and cultivating like an environment and even though I don't think we're entirely responsible for every little action that everyone can make because that would be impossible and I think there is something to be said about how safe your fans feel in your audience like when they come to your shows and I feel like that's a hallmark of who you are as a person but also as a performer it's like you're able to create a space where people can feel totally and 100% safe and like have a good time which is rare. Especially for public outings. Yes. And for marginalized people in general. Yes. Totally. Totally. Totally.

Totally. And like it's, um, I forgot what I was actually going to say right there. That's all right. I got you queen. Um, as far as like, yeah. As far as rude people who recognize you. Hmm. Have you ever had any of those?

Any sillies like that? So many. I mean, back in the day. Yes. Like I. Remember. being in like a mall and like people never want to like really come up to you and do something in your face yeah again that would be like pulling up a hate comment and reading it to them yeah um

but i've just had so many like weird sly interactions and and all of that and um i like i think as a kid and especially being like maybe when i was in my hometown that felt scary but it's been a really long time since I've had a weird moment like that. And now I'm just like, if I were ever to, I'd be like, you're weird. Yeah, you're, okay. Thanks. I had an interaction recently in the airport that I'll probably think about for a while, like, and not in a good way. And it was like, it's because, like, being perceived in public, like, I don't know if you feel this way. Are you an extrovert, an introvert, would you say? Apparently I'm both, too. Yeah. But I think I'm probably a little bit more extroverted.

Me too. And I feel like I've always loved being in public until I started being perceived. And now it's kind of a nightmare for me to go anywhere in public. Just because I hate the feeling of being looked at. It feels like you're a zoo animal. And so recently I was in an airport with my whole family. And like I was talking to, I was talking to my family. Like my back was turned.

And this girl stopped and she was like, oh my God, right? Which is normal? I hear that a lot. I heard it the entire fucking day. I was in the airport. So I just don't respond. And so she says it again. So then I start turning around.

And she looks me in the eyes and she goes, oh my God, Teffy. She's looking me in the eyes by the like she's looking me in the eyes and going, Teffy. And then I go, what did you call me? And she goes, oh, wait. And then I could feel like in her head. I felt like she was going different brown girl, different brown girl, different brown girl. Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.

Now I'm sure everyone here knows Teffi. You know Teffi. Yes, I do. We don't look anything alike. Like not even fucking close. Like, and if you look at it. build it's even more confusing because like teffy's this big and this tiny like and she's five two like she's so small and so i said what did you call me and she goes oh no no no sorry um sorry i like i know

your name no wait don't like i know it trust me i know it makes me stand there while she's trying to wait hold on hold on wait i know it i know it i know it i know it girl i said my name's drew i'm not teffy and she goes oh i know that i know that but you have like you have like podcast right girl that's what i was like yep and then she's like your last name starts with an a bitch that's painful right it's horrible it's horrible so like sometimes when i have it fan it's not a fan but like encounters like that in public yeah those are uncomfortable always and they're and you know you've been in the industry for a long time it's like it's not something you ever like really get used to.

It's just something you kind of learn to deal with, like as time goes on it. Totally. And people like that, like, I've definitely had similar experiences like that where people will confuse me for the wrong person or think we went to high school together or something. And like, people have these knee-jerk reactions where they don't think, they just see,

and they're like, oh, I've seen that. Yeah. I have to say something. And it's like, the amount of years I would have left on my life if people just thought once the one that really sticks out for me is I was like 15 and I was at Disneyland I don't go to Disneyland much because like even though I grew up in Orange County that's so expensive yeah so I was at Disneyland and I remember I was in the like pizza parlor the like space pizza situation and I was mid spaghetti bite and someone just like ran over

posed for a photo next to me as I'm literally like I and then just ran away way and I was like that's so oh god yeah it makes me feel so I would never want to be perceived like right it feels like I post like that type of shit makes me feel like I posted a whole pick on main like I just feel like I'm I'm just showing bearing my soul to the world and like people aren't supposed to see that like it feels so weird like and I talked to chapel about it a lot when she was here but it's like and Ravina when she was here she said that it's almost like a trauma that you learn to just deal with like as you kind of grow around the trauma and just kind of figure it out.

So that's why when people are like, I would love to do that. All right. Good luck. It's tough. It's definitely one of the stranger parts in. And like, I really respect everything that chapel's done this year and inserting a boundary for itself. Because there's so much about, so much conversation about, you know, well, of course, you knew what you were walking into or you asked for this as part of the job. But like, not many jobs have, like, unclockwiseable hours.

And it is, it's just a, it's not super hard to, to be respectful. And so many people are. Um, but the few that aren't, you are remembered. You live up here. And every, every city we go to, venues will ask for a list of faces that you don't want to let in the door. And like, sometimes people do things that are really scary or like uncomfortable. And, um, you might have your face on there. Yeah, that's like, and that's real and that's important that you like pay attention to that shit, which you don't, you don't sign something that's like, I'm signing away my right to not have people grab me in public.

Like, nobody ever fucking agrees to that. Like, even when she set that boundary too, I like made a video about it too because a lot of people were involving me. Anytime anybody says anything, if they were in this chair, they're like, what the fuck is Drew doing? Like every time they're like, and where's Drew at? Like, I don't know why the fuck. I'm just, everything's my fault. I know. I'm like, and if anything happens, consider that a warning, Rebecca. But even then when I talked about it, I said, like, you guys aren't, you know, it's disingenuous and it's

not a good faith conversation to just automatically chalk that up to like, oh, you signed up for this or like your fans love you, you owe them that. I actually don't. Like, I actually don't owe you the right to grab me in public. Like, I actually don't owe you the right to not remember my name, but take pictures in my face. Like, I don't owe you any of that shit. I don't owe you anything, really. other than the art that I put out or the thing that I do like to entertain you that's really it like that's all I owe you and that's it anything past that is extra credit in my opinion totally totally I think like I see people trying to have a conversation in a way that's constructive and what I think would be more constructive for everyone globally is like let's question the way that we idolize people and the relationships we have truly with the way that we I think this goes even back to like the ways the expectations people set for people on the internet and all that

like I think every figure on the internet and I've seen this with people like Trisha or like chapels or doja or who you could put every Brittany like you could put every person in there me. I've experienced this firsthand I think I've seen the way that

like the internet and not just the internet culture historically uses people like us and women particularly to build up when they're bored and ready for it. And then once they are comfortable, take them down for the story and the conversation and as like a catharsis piece and then they'll build them back up. Yeah. And then they'll take them back down.

Yeah. And then they'll do it as much as they can until someone just like really becomes unbothered by it and I truly I am always curious to see like where culture will go in the ways that like again people really are building these like deep deep parisocial relationships with with everyone that they see online and I get it I get it like we're all because at the end of the day like we're all human people just using our socials at the end of the day so of course we come across as like friends and yeah totally people you really know um so I don't know I don't know what the answers are to fix it I'm just watching it as a girl observing it and keeping an eye on it because you have to

yeah and also in the spotlight so yeah yeah something you have to keep your finger on the pulse it's true try I just think like I I check in with myself as this as like people who I really idolize like why am I so let down by this thing that they did I don't know them never met him before in my life you know yeah and I think though I've said this before too when I've defended women like I defended Dylan Mulvaney when she put out her fun song and like people like like turfs were fucking losing their minds. Piss me the fuck off. Don't piss me off, for real.

But I remember when I made a video, like I made a couple of videos defending her, but when I made another one, I said like, your, your internet-going experience will be improved a thousand percent when you like digest and internalize

the idea that not everything that is made and created is for you specifically. When you realize the world doesn't fucking revolve around you, you're going to have a lot more fun on the internet. I just cannot imagine like going through and being like, this isn't catered to me. So I'm going to tell everyone how much I fucking hate it. Like, okay, move on. Like when I see shit I don't like, swipe.

You know what I'm saying? Like I move on. So and I think it's like what you said too as far as hate goes like and, you know, entitlement to people's bodies in time and whatever. People who are on the internet, famous people. It's like you said, they don't see you as a human. Like they see you as a figment of their imagination, an imaginary friend, if you will.

Like, it's all very, like, parisocial, like you said. Yeah. And add on on top of that, like, in the ways that Twitter and TikTok and Instagram and everything are structured, one other piece of this that, again, don't know what to do about this. I'm just witnessing it is, like, everyone's opinion now has a way to be uplifted and be part of the conversation. Like, I think that, like, when something happens, or someone does something and it creates conversation.

Now any person's opinion has the ability to get 100,000 likes on Twitter. And now you see them in the comments and they're promoting some like sunset lamp and like they're making money off. So everyone's benefiting or like trying to benefit off of these conversations. From like a dog pile. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just a it's a weird one that whoever did this, whoever got us here, fix it. Fix it.

Because I look at, I have a nine year old. sister and she doesn't know yet i don't think like she's she doesn't have socials or anything like that thank god um and i hope she never does ever but um i i watch as a big sister and and try to learn from her because they're i'm so curious how she's digesting in it and it scares me you know to to know what it was for me i get scared for what it'll be like for her right and the and they like you said the gift of virality has really poisoned, like the ability to have, like, genuine discourse and conversation with respect. And we're talking about valid, like, you know what I'm saying?

Not awful people. You can dog pile them all you want. In fact, I don't think you dogpile them enough, in my fucking opinion. We're dogpiling the wrong people, bitch. We need to refocus. Exactly. We need to refocus. That's why I'm like, I think, too, that's another reason why, you know, a lot of iconic women

like yourself have found me on the internet because I think the way I deal with hate it's a lot different it's awesome you know what I'm saying like awesome I'm big I personally am having a ball I think a lot of other people are enjoying it as well we are and that's why I think when I get like when men say shit about me kind of like how they were talking about you giving you some very unsolicited advice on how to be a DJ and you know honestly that's them being jealous because that's their favorite thing to do that's their dream job especially awful white white men like yes oh they could they'd be a DJ and a stand-up comic at the same time oh that's like their wet dream that's their perfect like that's their kismit you know what I'm saying yeah

they really love that they really do do you get a lot of unsolicited advice on your DJ sets on my DJ sets yeah um oh yeah oh yeah totally or just like why did you do like that's like because I I did and they're like well I don't like it okay all right click away yeah exactly exactly so to circle back to music i would love to know who's a dream collaborator of yours oh my god um i have so many honestly i'm obsessed with fk twigs have been for so long that would be cool that would be oh i love that um there's so there's so many artists though that i would love to work with so many producers um I gosh I mean I've like always the people who know that are the people who know I've been like a Charlie

truther literally since 2013 in my room in high school and I love I love what chapel's doing I love like I think there's so many amazing people out there period you said all of them well yeah yeah I did say there's so many people that are are good so anyone who is good what if you could collaborate with someone who's not alive anymore Oh, I'm like, who's not a lot? Let me think of all the dead people I know. Probably someone like a Bowie. Ooh, that'd be cool.

I don't know what we would do, but it'd be something. Honestly, a weird one for me because I really grew up listening to so much of music. And I don't know if I would make the choice today. But I was a huge Michael Jackson fan growing up. Oh, huge. My mom was. was like big and again did you have the Michael Jackson Wii game the dance one wait no oh some fan okay actually so iris singed my fandom I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding um did you have the glove

a bedazzled glove again something oh no fedora no glove okay so I was normal um I like the beat not a fucking weirdo so I like the beat you know like the music um I don't know why he came to my had as like the only dead person I can think of other than David Bowie. I'm like Audrey Hepburn. I don't know what you would do. I'm really being basic white girl right now. So sorry. I'm brain dead.

So were you a big fan girl when you were young? Oh, huge. What were you super into? Lana. I was like, apparently I was like leaking Lana songs. I don't know. People love to like bring that up and I don't remember that at all, but I guess so. yeah um i was a i was a believer oh gee okay huge believer huge directioner oh love who's your

fave this is this is this is a sort of so i already so i thought i live on no totally fine i get it though i get it though um but yeah things have things have grown but i i mean i feel like 2014 was like prime prime prime like fandom cultivating too um i like i like fandom cultivating too um i loved One Direction too. Yeah. Who were you a fan of? I was, I was a, oh, like just in general fan girl. Well, both.

Well, actually, the first thing, the first group I truly remember being like a diehard fan girl when I was like nine or ten was my chemical romance. And like that was my very first concert when I was 10. I saw them in Anaheim, crossed the street from Disneyland. Oh, my God. Honda Center? No. Convention Center?

Yeah, the Anaheim Convention Center. Yeah. Whoa. Welcome to the Black Parade Tour. What? Yeah, girl, I was there in the rafters. My mom was too scared to go in the pit, so we sat very high. And that's why I was, I laugh when I think about it because my mom was so supportive,

like my whole family was. Because it was fucking weird. I'll be honest. And not because their music is weird. It's just like, the shit they talk about is so, like, they have very dark themes. And like, Skylands and Turnstiles, like, three cheers for sweet revenge, like, and on BlackBraid. Yeah.

My sister and I die hard fucking fans. Like, we would literally put on, like, we would get their deluxe CDs with all the extra shit like the tour DVDs and we would fall asleep to them like we'd put them on we'd like oh put the tour DVD on and then we'd fall asleep and they're like yelling fuck shit bitch like over and over talking about doing drugs they're all drunk yeah that's my white noise yeah that is kind of giving white white noise right right right right so we would watch those and like I was I was I was convinced at like 10 years old that I was going to marry the guitarist Ray Toro anyone unfamiliar yeah i was convinced i was like i was like well obviously we're going to get married he's 35

obviously we're going to get married and i'm 10 obviously it's gonna be fine eight well yeah and then as i got older went into like middle school did a hard left to the jonas brothers whoa yeah my mom a real whiplash my mom was like oh okay yeah that's huge which one i was a nick girl wow see it was more joe it was more joe focused and i're gay just like my sister she was also a joe See, the lesbians, it's all there. It's all, you just have to, like, get a little, like. But breadcrumbs are so prominent. Yeah, move a little, like, Joe.

And I hope these men know that it's a compliment and they should feel very lucky. Absolutely. That lesbians like them. Lesbians don't like very many people. They don't. They don't. But they like Justin Bieber. They like Joe Jonas.

Who else? Yeah, that's pretty much it. I'm trying to think of who else I was really standing. Oh, you know what I did when I was. was in when I was like 10, I remember I I would like collect all the J14 like me mags and put them all in my walls and all that. And I thought that like the P.O. box addresses on the back were just their home addresses. I was like this is grit like this is really cool. Like I should go here.

It's a phone book. Yeah. And so basically. And so one year I remember I cut my year book photo out of my yearbook. and I saw Zach Efron had a PO box situation there and I was like, well, I'm just going to mail him a letter. And so I put my little yearbook photo, which I had my full retainer. It was fourth grade. Full retainer, everything, wrote him a letter and I sent it thinking like, this is my new pen pal. Like, I'm going to get a response and I waited. You're like, God, I wonder what he's going to say.

He's going to be so caught off guard. He's going to be, he's going to think I'm gorgeous, first of all. So send. Yeah. Me like chubby little retainer girl. 10. I love that. And he was probably 21 or something. And yeah, I'm still waiting, I guess, for a response. I'd love to know if it got opened. Right. Because maybe I want the photo back. I know you're a huge fan of the show. Zach Ron, if you're here. He's also like five, six. Isn't that crazy?

Is he really? Yeah, girl. No hate to the short kings, unfortunately. I'll hate you. Just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. And if you clip that, I'm going to be fucking pissed. off. That was a joke. I would be pissed off. That was a joke. Unless you're awful. If you're awful, I always tell men. If you're a bad man and you're short king. Yeah, exactly. I get to make fun of you. Yeah. But yeah, no, he's, no, he's five, six.

Wow. I feel like you're tall. You're pretty tall. No, it's people think this. I'm five four. No way. Damn, you're all laid. That's a good thing, though. Oh my God. Thank you. No, people think I'm tall. But I'm really average. I didn't think you were as tall as me, but I thought maybe you were like five, seven. How. Tea? I'll take it. Yeah, period.

I love that. Small. Well, everybody in this industry is like this big. Oh, yeah. And it makes it's bad. It's hard. It's very hard. And when I say everyone, bitch, I mean everyone.

Like, I tell, I, sometimes I tell my team, I'm like, every room I go into, no matter how high the caliber of celebrity or not, I look like when Alice in Wonderland drank that potion that made her too big for the fucking house and her arms pop out the side. That's what I look like in every room. Everyone's like. Oh. like two little rascals stacked up on top of each other. And that's why I'm always like, can everyone tell me why everybody is so small in the entertainment industry? How are they doing?

I don't know. I don't know. It's freaky. Yeah. Like I saw Cynthia Revo and Ariana Grande at the Wicked premiere and I talked to Cynthia for a little bit. This big, dude. Little figurines. I could put them on my shoulders like devil and angel.

Wow. If they wanted to, you guys are interested, let me know. The spot is open. I am looking for people. Okay, well, circle back to your music, but tell us about the new album and what are you excited for? What are you excited for people to hear? I'm so excited for people to hear it at all because it takes a long time to get an album from finish to into people's ears. And it's called Salvation.

And it's something I'm really deeply proud of. And I think it's the most risks I've ever taken in making an album before. I think it'll add a lot of context. Like when people see me do boiler room and see me do all of the things that I'm doing, like this album has existed for a long time. Like these songs were made a year ago. And I am just excited for people to get to see where I've been. Yeah, totally.

And I think I've really like put my head down. And over the last like really, I mean, I've lived in a lot of, LA for almost 10 years. I've been just trying to get to the place where I feel like I'm making some of the songs that I've made on this project. They just feel like things that I'm like, see, I knew it. I knew I knew it was in there. I knew I needed to just like jiggle it out. And I yeah, again, I feel really grateful to be in a landscape where like people are ready for people to tell stories. And that's what I'm here to do. Love. What do you hope people take away after they listen to it. I hope it's an escape. I hope that it provides relief. I hope people have fun. I hope people

fuck to it. I hope people kiss. Like whatever. Do what you want. Do what you want with it. I just that like I I hope people really take the universe with them and it inspires them to take that into themselves. Like I am truly who I am because of like the albums that raised me and created the like story within my life I wanted for myself. And I think that was what I really wanted to do with this album was like tap into a version of myself that I want to be more, which is like, I think I'm a pretty like normal person. Sorry, reveal. But I look at like the most delusional, like grandiose, like crazy people. And I'm like, God, I want to live like you. Like I can't lie. every time I see a Jojo CWat TikTok and I'm like, that's so wrong.

But that must feel so free. Like that must feel so stunning to be that like, you know. I feel that way when I see like influencers that are like, for lack of a better word, fucking awful or or just stupid like and just unaware and don't give a fuck about anything ever. Yeah. Oh, I envy it. I have yeah. I know it's not good.

I know. I know it's miserable. But there's a second where I'm like that I want to be that. I can't, but I want to be that. And I think that like this record was just me tapping into like what that would look like in a way that's not destructive. Exactly. In a way that is like I am understanding something about myself that you don't get. And it's not about that because I'm feeling freedom and I'm feeling empowered and, you know, God bless.

Period. My last question to you is what would you say is your best piece of advice for anyone who's, I mean, I would say any marginalized person at all who's pursuing music. But even more specifically, like people like you who grow up in the industry or on the internet and not everybody has a story like yours, obviously. But there is something to be said about the way you've been able to navigate and really like come out from under like all of this awfulness and kind of still pave. away for yourself, like for people who feel maybe fear of being perceived or fear of putting out art and getting criticism or hate, like, what would you say is your best piece of advice to them? I think maybe this is my delusional bit. I think that like if you do the work and put your head down and focus on creating something that means something to you, it doesn't matter if it doesn't

hit the first time. It doesn't matter if like at first it's not totally realized. If you continue to look around you, gather and put substance into what you're doing, that is always worth it. Yeah. That is always worthwhile. There is the best like artists that I know and the best musicians I know, I know, I know that there is this like banner for success or, or the best musicians. like measure of success that we all look for but some of my the artists that have meant the most to me in my life are songs with like a thousand streams and i i i love them and i i i think those artists are you never know where your art is really truly hitting until suddenly one day you look back and you're like wow where have i been for the last 10 years and i think no one knows

or will ever know what you're trying to do better than you. So, like, as, like, cheesy as it is, like, get in there. Get in there, write it down, get it out. Yeah. And finish it. Yeah. Like, that's also the biggest piece of advice I can give is I talk to so many artists or, like, people I know that are really talented and want to be artists.

And they're like, I've been making this album for, like, 10 years. And I'm like, we'll put it out. Because then when you finish it, or even just finish it, don't put it out. finish it then you can start again and make something better and that's like what that's all i've done for the last yeah 13 years of my life is make really bad stuff that's the secret so that it can get a little bit less you know well and i think to your point too like it defeats the purpose of art if you only create it to garner some sort of accolade right it defeats the purpose like that's not what art is for it's to express yourself so putting it out there should mean more to you or

finishing it like you said should be more than accolades or rewards which are great like they're awesome and unfortunately they are a big way to make money off the art but yeah to like you said to focus on that being like your measure of success it kind of defeats the purpose of putting out art and I feel like real culture shifters like someone like you or like lady gaga early in the day like that's not why they're making it like they're not making it so they win a grammy they're not making it so it has two billion streams they're making it because it's important to them and it means something that something to them and then like you said sometimes 10 years down the line the octopus picked and then all of a sudden everybody everybody all of a sudden remembers yeah they're like wait i actually do love them

yeah so i think you're one of those people so i want to i want to tell everybody here now that i was on the ground floor with her back of black exactly and some of you bitches are behind you're not listening to the octopus like i am it's okay i love octopus so much my favorite animal oh i didn't even know that Look at me. Yeah. What if I did know that? That's the question I was hoping you were asking when I came in today. Yeah.

My bad. No. Sorry. Thank you. I appreciate it. Damn it. Thank you so much for coming on the show. I think you are fantastic.

I really do. And I think you're so talented and so incredible. I can't wait to keep watching you. Soar. Likewise, bitch. Yeah. And I can't wait to tell everyone. Yeah.

I knew about her. Yeah. Yeah. Rebecca Black. Yeah. I knew about her. I'm going to brag to everybody. Who's do.

Right. And all the gays in front of me are going to be like, oh, get in line, bitch. For real. Well, I'm so happy to have had you. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you. And thank you all for tuning into this episode of the comment section with my amazing guest, Rebecca Black. If, again, someone is nine years old, like your sister, and they aren't following you on socials, where can everybody find you? Search Rebecca Black on everything. It's Ms. Rebecca Black or Rebecca, wherever. Period. And stream the album and when it comes out and trust. period. And that's why, and that actually is perfect because for those of you that don't remember or don't know, new episodes of the comments section come out every Wednesday, you can stream all audio and all streaming platforms, but the video lives exclusively in for free on our favorite platform, Spotify, and that's why it's perfect, because you can listen to Rebecca Black's music and you can watch our episode, and then everyone can be happy and fulfilled and awesome. Yeah, you can just

make an auto play of trust and then the episode and then just, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then you're gay. After that. That's the agenda. There you go. And we're pushing it. Thank you so much for joining me on this episode. Thank you to my amazing guest, Rebecca Black. And I'll see you next week.

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