The Creep Off - #27 I wouldn’t wear your Sunday best

Episode Date: September 8, 2020

This week Vinnie and Karl submit their candidates for creepiest 80’s musician. In this week’s Scum Parade we meet a very angry motorist, a geriatric couple with bad aim and a Chomo who could have used a manscape 3.0. Vote this week on twitter @creepoffpod

As David made his way to the doors of the library to start the day, he was shaken from his usual morning slumped by a loud clicking sound coming towards him. Hey, hold that door, came a call. When he turned around, he saw the sound coming from a pair of black high heels. Oh, boy, is this foot fetish fan fiction? Running around the concrete footpath. David caught his breath in his throat as he took in the young woman the heels belong to. those shoes framed a pair of extremely large feet

with slim angles did you write this foot fetish fan fiction accented by her light chocolatey brown skin I knew you were one of them and shown off by your short cuffed slacks worn along with a black dress shirt as part of the library's unofficial work uniform episode 27 and we've now discovered you are the creep

a set of messy dark bags spelled out either side of her face and framed her bright eyes and framely smiled Hi, I'm Christy. I just started today. The girl introduced herself. Hi, David replied awkwardly. Let's start the fucking show. I'm sorry.

Anyone smile at anyone's feet for an hour? It's the Creep-Off. Ola Creepos. Welcome to another edition of the worst show on the internet. It's the Creep-off. I'm Vinny. That's Carl. Hey, what's happening, Vinnie Palino?

How you doing there? Hot cuck-cac-c-cara. I'm doing awesome. We got a Labor Day edition. the creep off. Here we are working. We were both talking about how neither one of us is really laboring today. No, no, it's pretty easy. It's an easygoing day and I love it. Well, it's a very easy day because we put out a poll to decide what the theme was going to be for today. We did. 60s musicians, 70s musicians, or 80s musicians. We did. The people chose the 80s and this was

pretty easy. There's a lot of bad things that happened in the 80s. Yeah, it's a really the challenger music being one of the big ones and also and also bitty so reganomics now i will say this this was i suggested in the discord server so i forget who suggested it we're creeps we don't care that much so we're going to do that in just a minute but i think we should probably look at some results from last week before we do we got to look at results first uh we certainly do carl here we go a minute he's 74% Please 74% of a moment

That's like 3 to 1 You want in the landslide I did Dennis Haster That's about my game Is definitely creepier than Larry Craig That's the answer I agree

The old Vienna sausage That used to hold the gavel I thought I could gaslight our listeners But it didn't work Yeah They did you You didn't go very hard You didn't go very deep

on that one. I'm going to say, well, I'll tell you what, Vinnie, I've learned my lesson. I'm down two to zero in the tournament that's going on right now. Yes. I don't want to get to five and have to spend the wheel of consequences. So I'm going to step up my game now. So speaking of the wheel of consequences, I do have to make an announcement. I need to pull on my calendar because I have to remember the day I decided. All right. But because I had to spend a 12 month live stream listening to a 12 hour. 12 months. Yeah, you asshole. Stupid idiot. I'm just going to get a dry erase and change No, it says 12 month. It's written right here, buddy.

I'm sorry. 12 hour live stream. That is correct. With Michael Patrick and Patrick Michael and whoever you all want me to listen to. You could suggest the worst podcast. Suttering John. I'm going to put them into a loop that last 12 hours. Oh, you know what you should have to listen to?

What's that? The last episode of WATP we just did with Shaw the Audio Engineer. Unfortunately, I did already. I thought I was the only person allowed to just contradict everything you say. Holy shit. So I'm going to do, I believe it's going to be September 26th or 27th. It's going to be either a Saturday or a Sunday. That's like a month away.

I need some fortitude here and I need to put together the show. Like I got to compile the episodes. If you want to send in an episode suggestion for my 12-hour podcast torture, you could send it directly to The creepoff at gmail.com. Just send me the link to the episode. And we'll all make sure you know what I'm going to be listening to. during that fateful 12 hours very good all right we're looking forward to that now because i am the winner from last week that means this competition's going to start with creepiest 80s 80s musicians ring that bell carl my creep this week was born jesus christ allen in

1956. A lot of people know him by his nickname Gigi. Now, he's kind of a folk character in the punk rock scene, but for those of you who are uninitiated, holy fucking shit, this guy was just a walking, fucking terror everywhere he went. Gigi grew up in New Hampshire. Here's the thing about this guy. He was named Jesus Christ, which obviously tells you a lot about his parents. It's like naming your kid, giving them a very common name and, you know, spelling it wrong, like Carl's parents. Real fucking sick, creepy shit. about the Allen's family patriarch was a religious fanatic named Merle they lived in a log cabin they had no electricity they had no running water Merle was incredibly like reclusive

and nuts and very abusive in fact he always threatened to kill the family and when they kids misbehaved he would dig graves in the cabin cellar just to prove his point he'd like dig your grave that's why you always leave a note like he's one of those guys yeah so uh gets the point across for sure yeah yeah so the younger alan described living with murrell as a primitive existence this is uh merle merle junior so there was jesus christ allen and merle junior we'll talk a little bit more about him in a minute they said it was a primitive existence liking it to a prison sentence rather than an upbringing they weren't allowed to talk after dark if it would be dark out they were no longer allowed to speak like in that terrible movie so

this guy was really coming out of a real crazy situation so his mom mother took Jesus Christ and Merle Jr. They moved away. And the nickname Gigi came from Merle not being able to say Jesus Christ. He was only able to say Gigi. And that was the nickname that stuck. That's blasphemy. That's like the definition of it. Yeah. But this guy, like the dad was a religious nut. And he was just like, my son's name was Jesus Christ. I must protect him in the woods. Dig your grave, boy. Like, what a fucking upbringing. He'll be okay in three days. It's fine. So his mom, Ariata, officially changed his name from Jesus Christ to Kevin Michael, even though he continued to go by Gigi. The only thing he was allowed to do was listen

to the radio as a kid. He loved rock and roll and he learned how to play the drums. Now, you can imagine a kid growing up like this and then going to junior high and high school in a normal place. Probably worked out really well for him, right? No. Probably became well adjusted, made a lot of friends, started playing soccer. No, he was a bit of a recluse. He did. He did. get really into music and he formed several bands and him and his brother, Merle, played together. His brother Merle was the basis. Now, according to Merle, that is not the only way that they played together, Carl. Merle told the author of a book called Rock Bottom, Gigi wasn't that interested in sex in high school. He did engage in sexual activity, albeit in a, quote, non-traditional

way. Murl explained, he never had girlfriends in high school. The only sex Gigi had when he was a kid was me and him masturbating each other as young teenagers. Is that why he wrote this song? Ain't only raping children. That's a pretty good dude. Yeah, he was heavily into masturbation, according to his brother. Aren't we all? Yeah, well,

you can't fault a man for that, but I can't fault you for jerking off your little brother. Yeah, well, they didn't have the internet back then, so who knows what honey of us would have done? Look at how kids these days have it so easy. They don't have to go jerk off their siblings. So he acted out in high school as you imagine he did things like cross-dressed at school he sold drugs broken to people's houses and he generally lived his life on his own terms can i tell you something that's really

funny yeah i think i've i think i've done all of the i think i did all those things in high school as well yeah sold drugs cross-dressed how was your brother what was the other one no no not the jerking up the brother thing uh what was the other thing breaking into houses breaking into houses yeah i think i did all those things you were breaking and entering as a kid car well i mean just to hang out for a little i can't imagine you holding up under question it Actually, I can't. You just sit there with a stupid grid. Carl, does you break into that house?

Just smile talking. No. I don't think so. No. Doesn't sound like something I would do. So he played in some really interesting bands. He started playing professionally in the early 1980s. He appeared with a group called the Cedar Street Sluts, the Scumfucks, and the Texas Nazis between 1980, 1980s.

He gained a reputation for himself as a hardcore underground rocker after a performance in Manchester. He became known as the Madman of Manchester. Now, what was so weird and what kept people coming back to see Gigi? I can't really necessarily say it was the music. Would you like to hear a couple clips of his songs? Definitely. Let's hear the music. Okay, let's play some G.G. Allen clips for you.

Here is this song called Piss on You. I want to piss on you. I want to piss on you. You ain't shit to me because I'm better than you. If I want a shit on you And make your little sister Too I want to piss on you

My back up has a yearn't too I want to piss on you I want to piss on you Shit in your mouth piss on you Do your mouth with super food If I were mixing that song Benny

The lead guitar I would have brought down Just a little bit I would have brought the level down Of the lead guitar And be like It wasn't your best performance but we'll keep it, but let's just bring it down a little bit, it's bury it. It's like if Nick Bate

had production. Dude, I think this inspired Nick Bate. I really do, too. Here's another, here's another clip from a... Lyrics are good, though. Yeah. Lyrics are good. Yeah, here's another one I think you might like. It's called Ainal Cunt. All right. The looks like that. This fucking deal. But there's a bloody pork.

I need to make a meal. Nobody can. You're dead evil cunt We'll be my fucking fuck today How much on this round I'm at me I rip the dead ass

And I'm penetrating Deep pot Yeah, so that's basically Yeah How much of the song do we have to listen to me? I think we get the fucking point Well, I just want to make sure you got all the The nuance of the song

Yeah. You know, as you lay on the ground on my feet. For my cream, I'm going to play the entire catalog. So just so you know, this is going to be like an eight hour free pop. Fine. Fine. Well, gee. Go ahead.

Read the lyrics. Go ahead. Whatever you wanted to do that. I'm sorry. I dropped it. Just said, you know, things like, you know, your dead anal cunt will be my fuck of fucks today. As you lay on the ground in my feet, I'll rape your dead ass and I'll penetrate it deep. Did he inspire the band anal cunt to name their band anal cut?

They must have. Have you ever heard? There's not two, two people that are that. Right. That's right. Yeah. What do they call it parallel thinking? Correct. Parallel development. Parallel development. So here's a clip from a closeted homosexual reporter from his early days talking all about the impression that Gigi would make in a town when he would arrive. News 96 reporter Shepard Smith joins us live outside the club space fish on Church Street with this exclusive report.

Michelle, we must warn what you are about to see and hear is quite graphic. But it's true. Happened at the club spacefish behind me last night. a band called G.G. Allen and the murder junkies. People paid $7 to watch a man defecate into his own hand while he was nude. And that is just the beginning. While he was nude. That's how you shit to your own hand. Yeah, you don't do it with your pants on, Chef.

You know how difficult that would be? You're just hoping it falls out the leg that you're holding your hand underneath. Young Shepherd Smith. I like that he was focused on how much people spent to get into the show. I mean, $4.50, I can understand. But $7? to watch this guy shit into his hand that's two months. Well, he definitely found

his gimmick in 1985 while performing in Peoria, Illinois. He basically stood in front of the crowd and took a giant shit on the stage. Frontman bloody mess recalled later, I was with him when he bought the X-lax. I'm being to the crowd. The act was entirely premeditated. Unfortunately, he ate

it hours before the show, so he constantly had to hold it. Or he would have shit before he got on stage. Before long, he wasn't just defecated on stage. He started eating the feces, smearing it around, and throwing it at the audience members. He also incorporated animal blood into the act by pouring it onto his body before performing

and by spraying across the stage in audiences. Now, this is just about how his stage show developed. Eventually, he would start cutting and mutilating himself on stage, and on one show in New York, he fucked himself in the ass with a banana on stage. The old banana trick. The whole disappearing banana game. Yeah, I mean, we've all seen that one before.

I think Teller did it the best when I saw Penn and Teller in 84. Penn looked like he's a gentle giant. Yeah. So a bunch of the places stopped booking him, and then lawsuits started happening. Several female concert goers started claiming he sexually assaulted them during and after the shows, and others have claimed that he attacked them during his set. There was one show he played up in New York State. A young Vinnie Paulino was there in the audience, and we have audio of that.

Let's see that dick. Can I take his nose off? Yeah, I was having a great time with Bosch for it. There's really one distinctive interview with G.G. Allen, and it was just a really great interview, and they asked him a lot of interesting questions. There was a lot of things that were revealed about the psychology behind his stage act. And as you can imagine, it's fucking lunacy, Carl. Well, he's eating his own shit on. Yeah, this is from his appearance on the Jerry Springer show. I don't need to hear him explain it, really.

What do you do on stage? I might go out and kick somebody in the head. I might grab a girl at four-certs. to perform moral sex with me. I've got sex on stage with men, women, and animals and everything in between. See, the thing of it is, in rock and roll, there can be no limits. I agree. Have you seen the isotopes? We really, we're edgy too. Yeah.

Have you ever fucked an animal on the stage? I haven't personally. Have you raped a man or a woman? Not me, but I'm playing the lead guitar, buddy. All right. I have other things to do. Now, they asked him about the shitting. What's the deal with the shitting?

He had a very interesting theory on this, and I guess it comes from his religion. upbringing with good old Merle in the cabin. Defecation on the stage goes with what I do because the defecation is the communion to the audience. It's a communion to my allies. It's just like I told these people over here, they go to church on Sunday and eat the body of Christ, why can't my followers come and eat the body of Gigi out? So I want to make a point here.

When you ask someone, why do you shit and eat your shit on stage, do you expect a good answer? Do you expect somebody's going to bring it to light and be like, oh, okay, you're just misunderstood. Well, of course it's going to be ridiculous. All right. Fair enough. But that was really ridiculous. He brought in the body of Christ into this. Yeah, he's sharing the union. Now, as for the rapes,

how do you defend raping people who come to your show? Well, good old Gigi sure did. Well, I'll tell you one thing. People feel sorry for themselves after they're raped, and that's not what they should do. They should build from strength. If a girl gets raped when she's 10, she may not get raped

and killed when she's 15 because she'll be condition for that situation. Is there data to back this claim off? You know what I love about that? It's really good if girls get raped with their dad. I heard him say that and I immediately thought of you. Because like Carl will always take the most extreme sarcastic viewpoint on something. And this sounds exactly like something Carl would just say to fucking like stir the pot.

Right. Yeah. They grow from it. They learn from it. You know, a 10 year old that gets raped. If you're going to rape people at your concerts, you don't want to go on Jerry Springer and admit it. I have a feeling that this is not working.

working out well for him. I think he's saying that it's character development. It is character development. And you know what? He really did say it's character development. Listen. They're censoring their kids, telling their kids to stay away from what's really going on in the real world. Those are the very people who are getting raped and killed because they don't know how to handle tragedy

because they're never put in front of a tragic situation. And when they come to my show, I'm going to give them the hard lesson of life. If you get raped at my show, you're probably better off for it. Well, that's way to be on the offensive. You know what? He makes a good point. It's all the parents' fault. It's not wrong.

That's not wrong. That is true. So wait, $7 to get rate by this guy? That was starting to sound like a deal. I mean, the dry cleaning bill is horrific. That's the problem. Don't wear your Sunday best. So here's him summing up his shows.

I've seen people in my audience leave with broken bones, broken arms. I've seen them leave on stretchers. I've seen rapes before me. It's just all a part of it's a great thing. It's a powerful thing. It makes you powerful. Yeah, it's a great thing. Who's the insurance company who is working with this person?

State nowhere. Yeah. Because that's not fucking happening. Yeah, I'm not insuring this show. Yeah, correct. He was also into young girls. Did I mention that? Did I get the head in there?

You haven't gotten there yet. And in 1980, he got married. and to a woman that he knew in high school, shockingly, the marriage dissolved by 1986. At that point, Alan was dating a girl named Tracy Denal, who was a teenager. Danult gave birth to his daughter, Nico, in 1986. They never got married. But by the time Gigi-Hon was dead, he was dating a 17-year-old named Liz. And here are some clips.

17 legal in New York State. Sure. Just want to point that out. I like to point that out. Don't ask me why I know that. I just want you to listen to this. I want you to, this is a clip, and I apologize. apologize for the audio on this. This is the best I could find of it. This is him appearing on another

talk show with his two teenage girlfriends. Here, I'd like you to meet them. Wendy and Liz are both 17. And they say they do anything for G.G. Allen. Really? Anything? Yes, I will do anything for him. I will die for him. I will do anything for him. He is my God. He is my daddy and I will do it all for him. He's your daddy. What's that mean? He is my daddy. He is up to me. When she came out followed me on the road i told her i i showed her more things than her daddy could ever show her he is my daddy how does he win legal custody of a teenage he's dressed like a fucking mad max warlord i know the speedo is not a good look for him oh my god well would you like to know how daddy spent father's day with his uh with his daughters oh boy here's uh here's what he had to

say i can take a guess my god on father's day my daddy gave me the great gift of letting me watch him masturbate and I got in his mouth and it was the greatest father-daughter experience I've ever had in my life. Did she say piss or shit there? Oh boy. You want to hear it one more time? There you go. Just give this a lesson. My daddy gave me the great gift of letting me watch him

masturbate and I got to his mouth and it was the greatest father-daughter experience I've ever had in my life. Yep. How many girls do want to shit their dad's mouth though? I bet there's a few. Would you like to hear one real... Would you like to hear one really interesting fact about Gigi Allen that I did not know, that at some point during the 1980s, he struck up a pen pal

relationship with John Wayne Gacey, yeah, who'd been convicted of the slain's of 33 people. The two were close enough friends that Gacey gladly designed the movie poster for a documentary that was being made called Hated G.G. Allen and the murder junkies. Now, here's the interesting fact. Not only did John Wayne Gacey do the poster for this, the director of that movie was Todd Phillips, the guy who just did Joker. Yeah, interesting. Yeah, that was his very first film. So, I bet Joker

was better. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to go with it. You know, you grow as an artist. The farther you go. You learn from a space. Gacy's artwork also essentially funded the film. Phillips sold prints of the poster for $15 a pop and ended up raising around $12,000. And because of it, they took away, you're not supposed to be able to make

money off of your crimes. They took away John Wayne Gasey's art privileges. Oh, wow. Over this whole situation. So he didn't have to pay out anything. You have to keep all the money. Yeah. Good deal. Yeah, not bad at all. That's interesting. So maybe I should be tapping into criminals more often for some of the

work that I need done. Towards the end of the 80s, he's been living his life like a complete fucking lunatic. Shitting in his daughter's mouth, having his daughter shit in his mouth. Just a lot of fun. Fucking cutting himself bleeding, raping people and animals on stages. Yeah. Pissed and shiting everywhere he went. Everybody that worked for that fucking guy had to wear rain boots. If you were a fucking roadie

You got to bring the capes Pants. Bring the galoshes. By the way, how much of this, though, is just his persona? And he has to say that these things are happening to make a seem like he's so edgy and such an edge lord. I mean, you make a something to shit up, right? People say that. Yeah.

But here's the fact. I don't know if it's true or not. Here's the fact. I don't know. That's a great sentence. Let me break some facts down for you. I have no idea. There were some things that make me question his authenticity.

For example, in 1989, he said that he was going to end it all on stage on Halloween. He was going to kill himself Halloween night, 1989, on stage. How much for the tickets for that concert? 7.50. Yeah. There's a surcharge. It's his last show. Do you want balcony or do you want?

Okay, so he couldn't do it. And the reason he didn't do it is because he was in prison. Here's a clip of him blaming the victim of why he went to jail. They let her off and put me in prison because she was the weaker sex. Now, if women want equal rights, they got to do equal time. Okay, I cut her, I burned her, I drank her blood, but she also did the same to me. Well, he's got a good point there. You know, because she was the weaker sex.

And he also, I will say this, had been arrested 52 times over his career. Here's a clip of him discussing it. You've been arrested 52 times. Are these mainly assault charges or like public decency type things? It was indecent exposure, disorderly conduct, inciting a riot, endangering the lives of my audience, indecent to minors, assault and battery, felonious assault, attempted murder, and so on and so on and so on. So what you're saying is, what you're saying is that the law has no business to come into my show and tell me what I can and cannot do on that stage when people have paid to see it.

Well, you know, we get a long way from what Jim Morrison said the F word on stage and had the show shut down. Poor Lenny Bruce. It's just like a couple decades go by. And this guy's like, I should be able to rape animals on stage. What's the problem? Here's my favorite thing about him. You know, if he was in prison, like if he didn't have the music thing and he was just in prison, he'd be what they called a jailhouse lawyer.

Yes. Because he just has an argument for fucking everything. Well, I like that he was able to rattle off everything he's been arrested for as if he rehearsed it. Yeah. Like he's got flashcards at home. Well, I mean, he has a good memory. He does.

He does. He does. It's impressive. Here's how he died. And here's the real train. He died? Yeah, he's dead. What happened?

He prided himself on being such a fucking rock star. He died in the most fucking legitimately cliche way a rock star can die. He died. Oh, his wife murdered him and then they claimed it with suicide? No, he died the same way. Oh, not the Kirkland way. He died the same way those Boris Philip Seymour Hoffman and Heath Ledger did. Fucking heroin.

Yeah. He was only 36 years old. That's pretty good. Yeah. I mean, he looked like he was fucking half dead in those clips I just showed you. now when he died you know the problem with heroin it's not a real getting shit done type of drug nobody shoots up heroin and then gets their to-do list all knocked out for the day if you want to be a rock star i feel like cocaine methamphetamine maybe PCP i just feel like

there's better things out there for you the mcjagger diet the more you know now uh let's talk about his funeral shall we okay okay he had an open casket service his corpse was buried with a bottle of Jim Bean, which was what he requested. Several photographs of his extreme live performances. His good friends came and they paid their respects by urinating and shitting directly into his casket. Is that true?

Yes. What's the funeral home that negotiated this? I think they must have done the shit in a field. They're like, all right, we don't typically allow that, but if you want to pay the extra fee. Those places are usually so clean. His tombstone is still routinely vandalized

by those seeking to mourn. the Fallen Rocker. So that is G.G. Allen, and I would like to play you one final clip. All right. This is him on a talk show talking to a police officer. Does G.G. Allen know wrong from right? That's what I wonder. I thought this thing, is this like authentic or not? But listen to this interaction.

There's a lot of screaming, but try to hear through it. Being up on people, raping people, et cetera, et cetera, is wrong. I don't know it isn't right in that. It's wrong. It's wrong. What? No, it isn't. It's right. it's right the words of GGL and ladies and gentlemen he might have had a mental illness you think I do yeah think he might have not they

said that you know when they put him in prison and they analyzed and they said he had like a personality disorder yeah yeah they didn't say he was like psychotic or anything like that but they definitely said he had a personality disorder and he was a stone cold alcohol his friends were shocked that heroin is what got him because like he we never really saw him with like a needle in his arm we always saw him just piss fucking drunk so there you go your turn very good

Vinnie compelling argument for Gigi Allen being the biggest creep unfortunately I brought a bigger creep today my creep is

the backup tambourine player for the monkeys no I'm just kidding my creep this week is a man that you might know admits he is a criminal

I knew you bum Michael Jackson. You want to talk about the creepiest 80s musician. Look no further than the King of Pop. It is Michael Jackson. Let's talk about how many children this guy molested. He settled a lot of these cases with Hush Money. You familiar with this, Vinnie? Never heard anything about it. Oh, well, this whole thing just escaped me. I haven't heard this story. You know about this? All right. Well, listen to this report. The claims of Hush Money reportedly amount to 200 million.

for 20 victims. He paid out $200 million for 20 victims. Two of the fathers of those victims committed suicide. These parents are not good of parenting when they let sleepovers happen at Michael Jackson's house. Now, Michael Jackson. Oh, hot take, Carl. Michael Jackson built a theme park in his house. Maybe you've heard of this. He wanted to attract children to come over.

And you know why he wanted to do that, Vinny? Because he wanted to have sexual intercourse with them, Carl. That's correct. There's a man named Wade Robson who has come out and talked about this. He sexually abused me from seven years old until 14. He was abused from seven to 14. Do you know why he stopped being abused? Did he have to pay $7 first? Did he know what? Did he have to pay $7 first? Do you know why he stopped being abused at the age of 14? That's around the time that all of a sudden, young boys start looking like grownups.

They start getting hair down there. Jex is not real thrilled with that. He was the hairless. preview messent young boys. This is Wade talking about how he was groomed. He used a flat iron. A couple days

prior to the abuse starting. He started touching me just in the sense of like panned on my leg, lots of hugs, kissing my forehead, rubbing my hand. So there had been this kind of development of physical closeness that was happening already

that felt like a father. Oh, well, that's nice. It felt like it felt like a father figure in his life. Well, until this happened. I will be your father's feet. Until this happens. Michael just sort of starting to touch my legs and touch my crotch over my pants. It progressed to him performing oral sex on me, him showing me how to perform oral sex on him.

That's the problem with kids. They're terrible at blow jobs. You really have to walk them through every single step. Yeah. You really have to keep them gagged after too. Huh? Huh? Well, they do talk about that.

They do talk about how Michael Jackson would tell them there weren't allowed to tell anybody. The training, Michael's training of me, to testify, began the first night that he started abusing me. He started telling me that if anybody else ever finds out, we'll both go to jail. Both of our lives will be over. yeah not exactly not how it turned out so molesting children sounds like a terrible thing to do

but i think it's even creepier when you think about how michael jackson actually fell in love with these boys like he was in relationships so that one kid was seven years he was in a relationship come on in fact he even got married a lot of them he allegedly engaged in a wedding ceremony with this young boy oh jesus christ No, he didn't. He decided to marry this young boy, and the reason why is because they were in love, and God had brought them together, really. As Michael started doing these sexual acts, he started talking to me about God brought us together.

We love each other, and this is how we love each other. We love each other, and this is how we show each other our love. They love each other. It's not just that he wants some lost boys. By the way, I think one of the things that he was into was rim jobs. Michael Jackson really liked the boys to just get out of all fours and he'd just go up from behind and just go to town on them and I will say a nine-year-old's butthole probably not to clean his place in the world

they really they're not going to oral sex they can't wipe real good there's a lot of problems with nine-year-olds yes yes I have to tell you your parents give them too much trust at that age to get that job cleaned you need to go to Uncle Mike so this other guy James Safechuck he talked about his uh... molestation events with Michael Jackson. And I think this is the creepiest part of it. Oh, did he not marry him?

No, they didn't get married. Did they have sexual intercourse out of wedlock? Yes. Yes, this was a sin for sure. Okay. He introduced me to masturbation. He said I taught him out of French kiss. This young boy taught Michael Jackson how to French kiss.

Is that the grossest thing you've ever heard? why is it it's always the kissing that gets to me it's always the worst thing it's like oh you guys both sucked each other up okay and we made out oh how did the kid have to teach him you may i know this is a new thing is this what the french are talking about this is a 30-something year old man who's been a giant celebrity since he was five and he's telling this eight-year-old you tell me how to french kiss man I should buy the the way, I should bring in his argument into this because we're talking a lot of shit about Michael Jackson, but he does have a pretty good point to make. No, they're ignorant. That's ignorant.

Good point, Michael. Another South Park clip from Carl. Yep. You know it. By the way, they were talking about this on Joe Rogan, and unfortunately Brendan's on there. But Jamie talks about one of the things from the documentary that came

out. The hallway leading up to his bedroom was wired so that footprints would make a ding-dong sound in the room. So he had it rigged that if anybody came near his bedroom, he would be alerted long before they got there. If that isn't the creepiest thing a child molester could do, I mean, it's not, it's actually practical. I shouldn't say creepy. It's actually quite practical, but it shows how invested he is. The sex swing just flips around in turns into a bookcase. Yeah, right. All of a sudden. movie screen comes down and they're watching a Disney cartoon.

All right. So this is obviously a lot of creepiness and we do know that Michael Jackson 100% had sex with a lot of young boys, no matter what McCauley Colleges says. That shine goes off. Michael Jackson just pulls out and wipes his dick on a teddy bear, throws it into the fucking garbage. But the worst thing that Michael Jackson did,

and I don't know if you're aware of this. Was that ghost song he put out in like 2008? No, that was all right. The worst thing that he did, was he bought up rights to other people's music. And I don't know if you're familiar with this. But this was a surprise. Oh, I know all about it.

This is a surprise to me. He also owned happy birthday. He owned happy birthday? He bought the rights to it. So that's why you're not allowed to sing it in a restaurant. I feel like that's over. I think you can say it now. You can now because it's back into the public domain.

Or maybe after he died. Dude, that's why everyone sings the bullshit. Happy birthday. Happy, happy, happy, happy. I think like ASCAP or BMI could literally come in and just find the restaurant. Holy shit. And that's because of Michael? That's so stupid. Dude, what a baller move.

It's copyright. Owning Happy birthday. I want a lot of money. Give it to me. Too bad he doesn't like bitches because that'd be the biggest move ever. By the way, that's not Marge Simpson. That is Brennan's Shop. I apologize for bringing Brendan Schaub out of the show.

Did you know that he bought happy birthday? That's why you're not allowed to sing it? I did not. I did not know that either. Well, someone who's watching live on YouTube says that is not true. What a fucking creep. Oh, now we're going to trust random people watching us on YouTube. Who do you think knows better?

Jamie from the Joe Rogan experience or some random person who's spending their Monday afternoon watching the creep off? Okay, Carl, you make excellent points. Not about your creep, but about that. So for all of those reasons, I say the biggest creep of the 80s is G.G Allen. Is of course Michael Jackson. Vote for Michael Jackson. It is the correct vote. And good argument today, though, many.

I thought that was a good discussion that we had. It's going to be three to nothing. you're going to be spinning the wheel in no time fuck you carl all right don't forget to vote on twitter at creepoff pod we're working on getting a new voting system in place while carl supposedly is

but he's a little too busy enjoying vacation I'm very busy with that we're working on it yep yep we got a lot of technology going on in the background you guys aren't even seeing yep so uh you ready to check out our voicemails today do we get some voicemails minnie you know what I feel bad I have not been getting updates about picking Michael Jackson

no no Michael Jason was a great pick I'm going to win I feel bad I've not been giving updates I started to and then I kind of let it slide my fantasy baseball team ended the regular season 4-1 and 1 I'm in the playoffs I have a first week buy in the playoffs so faces loaded my fantasy baseball team doing very very well and I'd be getting all the emails and notes from people

and DMs asking about it we're doing well we lost last week but it didn't matter still in first place got the first week bye all right Benny what do we got you're ready for some some voicemails Sure. This one came in from our friend imbecile, who was very upset because last week we only had one call. And I got to be honest, it was a bit of a snoozer.

Okay. Embesile here. I try only to call if I have something funny or entertaining to say as pervete's instructions. However, this week's creep off broke my heart when I heard the only voice valor was crap by Rick. PBR, whom has a personality that is dwarfed by that of Lenny Dykstra's pubic hair. I always wanted to start a voicemail feud with that twat. But he does not have the courage or fortitude to stand up to the great, immatile, Wilhelm. Just like everyone else in Oregon, it seems he only has courage when he has courage.

surrounded by shrill women and incels in black masks burning down shoe stores Jesus Christ shots fight lastly Vinny what

please despite you looking like the quintessential basement dwelling pizza roll eating Twitch streamer you pretend sane ignorance in not knowing

what a Gumba is a Gumba you You fool. Are you trying to score cool points with that Fonzie like Carl? Anyway, Gumba! Oregon! Oregon! Oregon.

All right, a little long this week, pal. But, yeah, I guess last week I couldn't remember the name of the little mushroom guys. They're called Gumbas. Yeah, I get it. Who cares? Whatever. All right. I knew the word mushrooms.

I got close. So, Vinny, let's talk about your lighting. because we believe it or not we're in the same studio we're right next to each other I'm in a different room you do look like you're in someone's basement and that you are a creep with your light why don't you just have regular lighting what is the deal is that I like it the way I like it okay I'm more comfortable in the dark um the problem is you're not your face is all lit up because if it was the opposite it would look better if you were dark and the background was lit up that would make sense to me mind your business fair enough here's our next uh voicemail from someone

who's a little annoyed with us okay How many times this thing going to ring up? Ban practice, what the fuck, Carl? I'm over here at Walmart, listening to the creep-off, doing some shopping for my family. The fucking thing ends, and now I am mindlessly humming about anally raping children. What the fuck? Anyway, also the enemies and Mario are called Gumbas. Come on, take no.

Bye. That's for you, Ben, practice, guy. It is a catchy fucking ditty. It's really good. It's really good. What a book. Really, really just was just a career that was extinguished too early. I know.

You think about Charles Manson, and his music wasn't very good. He was never going to make it. But Nick Bate, man, they locked him up too soon. He had so much art to put out into the world. Now, this is last voicemail of the week. This is someone calling about our scum parade segment where we talked about the two fat guys who tried to kidnap a realtor. Yeah.

Hey, I'm just calling about that a person on the crew. There's two people on the creep off that kidnapped a realtor. look have you tried finding a home in this market it's tough it's so competitive i i would get half a realtor if they were showing a house and i want to buy to another person or a couple yeah it just makes sense okay well maybe i stand corrected it is a seller's market it is a seller makes a good point listen i will stand corrected when you have a good point you have a good point yeah for sure all right if you want to leave a voicemail call 585 371 8108 not while we're streaming live go fucking yourself. And if you want to leave a voicemail about Vinny that we could surprise it with,

you could always call the WATP hotline. Are we ready for the parade? I'm ready for a parade. Let's do it. Am I ever? Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, stop it. I want, I want Scum Brigade this week. Okay, you got it, buddy. Well, in the middle of the night and the early morning light, you can see these are creeps from miles away. and banging their kids and banging siblings driving up a quiz with children on board watch out for the scum parade oh no it's the scum parade look out for the scum parade making minnie's day we're going to start off the scum parade this week ladies and gentlemen

shocking we are going to florida wesley chapel florida troopers are looking for the man who was last spotted alongside interstate 75 according to the florida highway patrol it was around 930 a m thursday when troopers received multiple calls about a woman being beaten along the southbound side of ice 75 why did you giggle during that sentence because i'm just thinking about this happening out of the side of the road it's fucking crazy the woman was beaten bah ha ha ha says minnie what the fuck is wrong with you it's just weird that it's happened on the side of the road The police found a Dodge Ram pickup and pulled over. What's wrong with that?

A couple of giggle-pusses. They found a Dodge Ram pickup. They had pulled over because of a blowed tire. Several witnesses were still at the seat, along with the female victim. They told troopers that the truck had suffered a tire blowout while the woman was driving. That's what her husband yanked the steering wheel, nearly sending the truck and its trailer out of control before it came to a stop on the outside shoulder. her. Troopers say an argument ensued, and the woman's husband of 12 years later identified as Joey Edward Morgan, walked around to the driver's side of the truck, and pulled her into the

I-75 travel lanes by her hair. Then he allegedly headbutted her. What are you laughing at now? Points for the headbutt. I think that if you're going to be a wife-beater, you've got to be creative with it. Yeah, this guy listens to Rogan. Dude, that's fucking funny. Head-butting your wife? Yeah. He punched her and then shoved her into the past. of a tractor trailer. This sounds better than any tables, ladders, and chairs match I've ever heard about. This is hilarious.

It's up there. Oh, my God! It's a tractor trailer match. I can't believe it. Oh, my God, King! She's broken at half. Baga! But did we see her tits?

J.R. I'm ruining this. It's fine. Shove her into the path of a tractor trailer, which had to swerve to avoid hitting her. By the way, throwing someone in front of a truck is a terrible way to murder someone. Do you know why that is, Benny? a witness. So you're not going to get away with that when you shove someone in front of a truck because someone's watching you do that. There is a what are you going to do that grab the truck driver, throw him in front of a car? Like, where does it add? Yeah. How do you get away with this?

Yeah. I don't think he was thinking clearly. I don't think so. This is so like Chris Benoit level shit. Yeah. Morgan repeatedly threatened a killer before running from the scene on foot and disappearing into the woods. I'm going to kill you. Exactly. Real threatening. The trooper's searching the area they were unable to find Morgan. Troopers say that the 45-year-old Summerfield man is now wanted on a charge of attempted murder. He's living in the woods now. Yeah. Really bad idea to beat your wife on the side of the interstate.

There will be multiple witnesses to that. Correct. It's almost as dumb as raping an animal on stage. Correct. It's that level stupid. Or marry like a 10-year-old. Come on. Dude, that's creepy.

That's creepy. This next story also happened in Florida, and this one really fascinated me. Charles McMillian Jr. was dropping off a U-Haul van with his young son and a childhood friend. When out of nowhere, bullets start flying at them. Just as they had parked the van at the U-Haul drop off, this plaza, they were sending McMillan's truck getting ready to go. As he typed in the mileage on the phone app to drop off the fucking truck, gunshots are going off. They look back and saw these two old-ass people coming towards them both pointing guns. in their direction. The couple yelled don't move and on other commands for them to surrender.

But McMillan threw his GMC truck in reverse, drove around the van, and sped off in a blind panic. They heard more gunfire as they fled. They managed to escape Thursday night with their lives. They fucking sped out. They called the police. It turns out that the two shooters were Wallace Fountain 77 and his wife Beverly Fountain 72, the owners of the strip mall. They were waiting inside of another U-Haul because they said someone had been stealing gas and they wanted to scare off any culprits.

Now, Mr. McMillan and his friend Mr. Clemens said the fountains who are white never asked why they were there or even whether they needed any help. They just opened fire. They saw three black people unarmed dropping off a U-Haul. They got guns and they started shooting. Isn't it weird?

Vigilantes in comic books are always really cool. They're like the Punisher or Batman. But in real life, vigilantes are either teenagers or retirees. Yeah. Why is that? 77-year-old. He's out there trying to shoot criminals.

Now, the wife said she denied ever-knowing McMillian or Clemens' skin color. She said what asked, were they black? Oh, were those black gentlemen? We just thought it was criminals. We weren't going off on that at all. And that's a quote. She goes, you've got vandalism and theft going on at your property. We're just trying to protect our property.

That's the only issue here. Well, no. The only issue is you're shooting at people, and that's illegal. You shouldn't do that. Well, they were shooting warning shots. There were six shots fired into the air to scare these people. That's an insane approach to criminal justice. You might want to, I don't know, talk to them first.

How long do you think it took those two fuckers to get in and out of the van, in and out of the back of the U-Haul they were hiding and waiting for people? I don't know, which one had a walker? They had to have the ramp up. Yeah, right. the shit that they said to the cops is insane they pretty much admitted to everything that they did they're like well we thought that i thought i heard them siphoning gas so we came out guns ablazin yeah as if that's like oh well if they were breaking the law well then of course you'd start shooting guns at them that makes that makes perfect sense they come from a different time carl it's like the cops get there simpler times and you're allowed to shoot black people that are on your property right the cops get there and they're like i already told you my wife said they were scary and words so we immediately started to shooting guns. Can we go now? They were acting N-Wordy.

Can we please go now? What else do you need to know? These people are just shooting guns at people. What's wrong with these fuck? How do you live 77 years and think that this is okay? It's how you live 77 years, Carl? Maybe. From his cold dead hand. Later in the article, if I can skip back, there's a lot more out in this article.

Please go ahead. McMillan and Clemens said that they hope their story and others like it will prompt new laws banning people from taking the wand to their own hands. Dummy, there's already a law. You cannot shoot guns at people who aren't attacking you. That's already I hope there's new laws. This is

a law. What they did was illegal. They started shooting guns at you for no reason. You know, the cop was like, oh, they're just so old. Don't worry about it. And this guy's like, we need laws. We need a law about this. What did you guys do wrong? Well, we are black. Just let them go. Oh, okay. Well, that's why. That's why they shot it. Wait, you were dropping

the truck off? wait all three of you are black oh well then that's i mean obviously that's why they shot at you so we're going to let them go on this one they're already laws we don't need more laws that's not the moral of this story and this attorney that they have too oh my god you really read into this article i kept just the facts but go ahead the attorney was shitty i agree oh this attorney is turning this into a whole george floyd he thinks he's uh martin luther king junior he's talking about all this stuff this is about the race relations in this country is like no these are just two lunatics that guy's office is in the same strip mall that these two people are right right you know these books behind me actually have information in them they're not just for show hey karl you ready to stop laughing no well here we go

we're going to missouri uh the husband of an operator of an unlicensed home daycare is in jail on dozens of counts of possessing child pornography that's surprising usually the unlicensed ones are the best ones yeah i mean the cheapest usually David Mananis, Bap, Bampanana, Mananus. 62 is now facing 48 new charges that could put him behind bars for life. I'm fine with it. The new charges are for looting and lascivious molestation of a toddler. Well, for photographing. Thank you, George.

And several of the daycare children interviewed by detectives said Manus regularly took photos with them during, quote, naked time. Jeez, Louise. When Paul Beach County Sheriff's Office at detectives first arrest of Mananis on July 30, They said they found his tablet that contained over 100 images of children from infancy to nine years old, performing sex acts or having sex acts performed on them. Detective said one of the images showed a girl between one to two years old, laying on her back, her legs held apart by a man while he took the pictures. Now, Vinnie, this is a disgusting story. Yes, it is.

I really hope that some good comes out of it like that girl that you just described. Maybe she becomes the greatest webcam girl in the history of webcaming. She started young. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, Tiger Woods was on TV putting when he was like four years old. This guy was just trying to help her, giving her career advice. Getting the career going.

Well, here's the interesting part. Detectives say they match their hair pattern on the arms and hands in the pictures to the hair of mannaces, arms and hands. So that tells me, you got to get whatever that fucking machine is that Carl's selling on WATP. You need the mangroomer. The manscape. Manscapeer. What the fuck? Because I think you hate you.

No, one more 3.0 from Manscape.com. Yeah. What are you talking about? Oh, you got to like, because he's got, yeah, if you're going to take pictures

of yourself fingering children, you want to make sure there's no recognizable arm hair on there. You're a stupid dumbass. The manscaper. Okay. Use code W-H-E-P. Get away with Moll Station.

Oh, boy. They also noticed a similar comfort of clothing and diaper changing table in the images. The children reported that the pictures were taken. in the homes of David Manus, specifically in the master bedroom. And while changing to go to the pool, he also took pictures of them.

They reported David's, David takes naked pictures while the children were playing during Naked Time, charged a two counts of Lundisivis Smallestation, and then 46 counts of sexual performances by a child. How does he get away with this for so long? He has a thing called Naked Time. You're telling me none of the kids get picked up by their parents. You're telling me a state didn't want to license this place. I know, right?

Can't believe it. And you know who he lived with in that house? his wife and his two adult sons Yeah Can you imagine what the fuck's going on That even the two adult sons Don't pick up on fucking naked time Well, they're adults who live with their parents

They're probably not doing really well in life They should probably play in video games Yeah, they're probably just get a job And get the fuck out of your house Ah, well, David Manis Fucking creep, enjoy prison What a piece of shit that guy is Yeah, talking about pieces of shit

We're also going to Missouri By the way also, he saved all the images He took the photos with a camera. He had like a digital camera he was using. And then saved him onto his tablet. The tablet has a camera. Skip that whole step. You could be watching this on the tablet.

He's 62, Carl. He's 62 years old. And maybe the resolution isn't what he wants. Maybe he needs the DPI. I'm sure he doesn't even have a nice camera. He's got two adult sons living at home. That's true. This guy's a fucking idiot.

Terrible parent. Terrible babysitter. Yeah, I mean, he's no Michael, Jackson but it's pretty gross yeah um funny thing is he did not marry any of the children he was engaged but it didn't work out yeah that two year old was just a little too loose around the swings yeah as soon as she turned three he was like i'm just not into her anymore yeah people grow apart god damn it uh sherry none of this is funny palo a missouri woman who prosecutors say was the most culpable in the death of a developmentally

man has been sentenced to 17 and a half years in prison on federal charges this last week. The developmentally disabled man in question had a terrible last few months of his life according to a lawsuit filed by the family. His name was

Carl DeBrody and he was staying at a second chance homes facility but sometime before his death, Paulo allegedly brought DeBrody and another resident to stay overnight at her home. Like she was checking them out like library books. Yeah.

Okay? Well, at the home, the suit said De Brody was forced to do manual unpaid labor and sleep on the floor of the basement without a bed or a mattress. Unfinished basement also. Yeah. All well, his house. Like my wood paddled basement. I'd stay in your basement. I could pass out drunk on that floor.

No, I've done that. That's a good carpet down there. That's like all kinds of shit. No doubt. I wake up feeling rusted. So not only is he doing all this unpaid work. his health is deteriorating and de brooding the other resident were allegedly forced to physically fight each other for the benefit and amusement of the caregiver and her family isn't that funny there's a retarded fight club the first what's the first rule of fight club potato chips no you know what's funny about that is it's called second chance homes so there's always a rematch Carl one night starts screaming in the middle of the night

Family members believe he was taken upstairs in this woman's home placed into a bathtub with the shower running while he was convulsing and bleeding from his nose and mouth Carl died as a result of this episode The lawsuit said Carl remained in the bathtub for two or three days Until he was ultimately placed in the city of Fulton trash can and encased in concrete. Yeah.

So they found his remains a year later in concrete. Yeah. And I just want to ask, how do you fuck that up? What kind of bad craftsmanship? What was a foot hanging out or something? How do you find a body in concrete? He was placed into a storage unit. If you do it the right way, you should be able to hide the body in concrete.

Well, she rolled. She admitted what she did because here's the funny. Thanks for shitting on my joke. Yeah, it's a good joke. Who are you fucking Sean the audio engineer? well no car actually what happened was she confessed that okay thanks no he's on a successful show this situation happened in 2017 this guy died between october 24th and like november they said like 25th they placed it to

about a month but he wasn't reported missing by the facility until april 17th of 2017 yeah so he was missing for months and once people start investigating like hey who checked him out last So like, oh, it was Paolo over there. It was Sherry. She ended up confessing to what happened. And a lot of people are in serious trouble. Police said that she... You're in serious trouble.

This retarded man is in concrete. And you're in a lot of trouble for that, Sherry. And we also don't like that you make them fight each other and headbutt each other. You're in a lot of trouble, young lady. By the way, the picture of these people, there's a picture of the caretaker, Sherry, and a picture of the mentally disabled person, Carl. I can't tell them apart. I don't know which one's which.

yeah did you notice that they both look mentally disabled to me paid one to watch the other yeah paula told police she watched de brodie stopped breathing but despite knowing CPR and first aid she did not attempt to resuscitate him why do you tell the police that

why would you say exactly for the reason you just explained nor did she seek medical help paula pled guilty in november to one count of depriving to brodie of his civil rights and one count of health care fraud Yeah. The St. Louis Post Dispatch Reports, Powell also was ordered to pay the government $106,795 for Medicaid claims. You know what the second rule of Retarded Fight Club is?

Don't remember it. There are no second rules. That's a good point. So, ladies and gentlemen, that is this week's scum parade. How do you feel about that, Carl? The scum parade keeps getting scumier and scummer. I don't know how you do it, buddy. But it's impressive.

Hard work. Now, remember, folks, don't forget to vote. vote for Gigi Allen on Twitter this week at Creepoff Pod. Leave us a voicemail 585-371-8108. Please rate and review. And you want to send me your terrible podcast for the podcast, death stream. Send them to the creepoff pod at gmail.com. Michael Jackson is clearly the biggest creep of the 80s in any category.

I disagree. He built an amusement park at his house so that he could fuck children. That's pretty elaborate Well If you get raped at my show You're probably better off for it So it's nice to be important That's ignorant

But it's more important to be nice Giga Well I'll tell you what People feel sorry for themselves After they're raped And that's not what they should do They should build from strict If a girl gets raped when she's 10

She may not get raped and killed When she's 15 because she'll be conditioned For that situation What I'll tell Uh-oh retort alert retort alert class what an asshole

my dad gave me the great gift of letting me watch him masturbate and I got in his mouth and it was the greatest father-daughter experience I've ever had in my life that's a pretty good sound clip right there I gotta give it to you