The Creep Off - #31 That's Great

Episode Date: October 6, 2020

This week someone spins the wheel of consequences! The boys go head to head in another no holds barred potpourri edition to kick of the new round of the competition. In the Scum Parade we meet the parents of the dirty kid in class, a woman with some strange new thoughts on the afterlife & we learn about a not so everyday case of workplace sabotage. Don’t forget to vote at Thecreepoff.com

It's the cream off. It's the cream off. Hola creepos it's time for another edition of the world's worst contest it's the creep off a show about creeps by creeps for creeps it is it you know you pitched it to me yeah and it took me a while to decide that that was the right sign on yeah i feel good about it i do too thanks buddy no problem so welcome to the creep off my name is viny paulino i am your humbleish host and joining me in the other room is hot cucka carla what is happening minnie polino how you doing buddy what exciting things are happening today carl well i think i'm down four to one currently

and we put the vote back on the website we did so we thought there might be some shenanigans involved and uh the numbers that you guys see might not be the numbers that we're going to be talking about because we're actually looking at things behind the scenes and uh that is correct numbers to be actual votes from actual people because we have a way to see where everybody voted from and we also could look at the patterns there's ways to figure out what's real what's legitimate what isn't so today our tally that carl and i have both agreed on i'm coming back baby viny 100 votes uh huh carl 87 votes spin that wheel spin that wheel spin that wheel Spin that wheel, you fuck with your backwards hat.

So it is wheel spinning time for me today, huh? It is wheel spinning time for you. At the end of the show, we'll pull out the wheel, we'll spin it live on the show. And remember the rule, oh, Vinny, remember the rule that we have. Yeah, don't you forget the rule that we have. How's that? The rule is, I have the right of first refusal. If it lands on something I really don't want to do, but that I have to do whatever

Vini tells me to do. Correct. That is the rule. Boy, I got to be honest with you. I feel like you're going to Tom Myers' restaurant. That's the one that you bitched about the most. I was just going to ask you, do you know what you're going to pick if I say no?

Tom Myers' Restaurant. Absolutely. It's in Baltimore and it's not going to make for any good fodder for the show. It's 12 hours there and back, same as I did on a pod on a live street. Dude. Yeah. I don't understand how that's going to be fun for anybody. I got the enchiladas.

They were great. All right, moving on. Carl, you're going to have to take a camera and you're going to have to like live street while you're sitting there eating you're going to have to talk to the viewers and the listeners you're going to have to interact none of that's not the way you're going to have to become a man of the people like your boy viti over here the people's champion and the champion of round three of the creep off that's me baby oh my gosh so two time two time creep off champion congratulations viny you blew me out in this round i have to do better i have to try harder and do better is

my takeaway from this i'm happy that we can work this out That we were able to work out the voting today. And I'm happy that you were a man of your word. You are going to be spinning the wheel. And I could not be more delighted. So we've been doing themes for our creeps over recent weeks and months. And why don't we have a theme this week, Biddy, what happened? I'm a dumb dumb.

Yep. I forgot to put it on the Twitter. He sent me the three categories people would vote on. I said, great, looks good. Let's do it. And then days later. Forgot to put it up. Never put it up.

Nope. You want to just pick one. So I said, let's go back to the old Popperi. Popperi, which is a fun category. It is. Because there's no rules here. We could vote or submit anybody that we want to throughout history. It could have happened yesterday.

It could have happened 100 years ago. Either way, we're going to have fun with the creepiest people we could find for this episode. You ready to get started? I guess you're going to go first then. Yeah, ready. Okay. There's the bell. Let's do it.

All right. My creep this week is known as one. one of the most infamous individuals in American history, Carl. He had many nicknames and I'm going to let this creepy British guy tell you them. He was also known as The Grey Man, the Werewolf of Wisteria, the Brooklyn Vampire, The Moon Maniac, and the Boogie Man. I'll leave it right there. I have a problem with this already. He was a Werewolf and a Vampire.

I thought the Werewolves... Did you see Underworld? Did you see those Underworld movies? It could happen. where wills fight the vampires i'm pretty sure you get me both and then the last one was boogie man like all right i think you should start a boogeyman and work your way out but okay well i'm gonna say that i didn't write that script i guess is what i'm trying to say all of those nicknames pale in comparison to what this motherfucker actually was my creep this week is the

infamous albert fish all right are you familiar with him at all carl i'm not minnie i have true crime is not my thing well i mean of course i love this stuff this is fascinating why are you on I love hosting a True Cry podcast with you, Vinny. It's great. I had to go back and research this motherfucker and I still feel dirty. Okay. So I'm trying to do the- Why are you grinning ear-to-ear then?

You love this shit. Because you're going to spin the wheel. I know. That is exciting. Is the 12-hour live stream still on there? No. I switched it with a cuties marathon. Oh, cuties marathon.

Okay. All right. Sorry. I didn't mean to derail you. Let's keep going. We're going into history with this guy. He was born in 1870. Okay.

He was abandoned by his parents because they were unemployed losers. And he was put into a orphanage where he was exposed to regular beatings and sadistic acts of brutality. Well, this is all reported on 150 years later. We don't know if anything is true. Oh, sure. He's very well documented, Carl. Oh, I'm sure he is. I'm just saying fake news.

That's all. Okay. Okay. He said later that while he was in that orphanage is where he first got into sadomasochism because he used to look forward to the abuse because it brought him a lot of pleasure. Let's see that dick Like four years later His parents came and got him out of the orphanage He went and lived with his mom right

And he was a little kid who liked to get beat He ended up finding one other weird friend And this friend introduced him to a lifelong passion of his And that lifelong passion was eating shit And drinking pee So they were just two little boys What really liked to get fucking beat up And the other would like to eat shit and piss

And they were just BFFs back in the day Okay. What age are we talking about at this point? He was, uh... No, we're talking like under 10. Okay. As he got older, he made money working as a male prostitute. He started to molest boys.

He would lure children from their homes. Wait a second. That's an option? You can be a male prostitute? Yeah. He made money working as a prostitute and started to molest boys. He lured children from their homes, tortured them in various ways. His favorite way of torturing a child was using a paddle laced with sharp nails, and he would rape them.

As time went on, his sexual fantasies with children. grew more fiendish and bizarre. This is him all under the age of 20. Okay. He lived in 23 different states, Carl. Okay. He worked as a painter, and he specifically took jobs close to children, the mentally handicapped, and African Americans, because he said, according to him, their children

were not missed as much when they disappeared. So he's also a racist, great. Correct. Correct. So we've got piss shit eater, sadomasochist, racist. His buddy was the piss. No, he introduced him to it. He loved it, too.

He became a big fan. Okay. All right. And in spite of all of these things, being a child rapist and a molester, he got married in 1898 and had six kids. Holy shit. All right. He had six children with his wife and they lived a rather normal life until 1917 when his wife ran off with another guy. Hard to believe she could find a dream boat that was more attractive than Albert.

Yeah. I digress. At that time, things started getting weird for his kids because he started making them play sadomasochistic games with him. Like he used to have them paddle him with the sports. spiked paddle till he bled. Well, remember, this is before Monopoly was invented or clue. Sure, sure. There were as many games to play back then.

Here's a game he used to play. He used to like to stick cotton in his asshole and have his kids set it on fire. Oh, that's a fun game. That's like, that's pretty cool. Well, how about this one? Tebow's like, oh, yeah, I've done that. Hey, has Steveo ever done this? Has stebo ever stuck a rose into his dickhole?

I think so. I think that's Jackass 3. Yeah, the 3D one. Yeah, the 3D one. Yeah, well, Albert Fish is the originator of sticking a rose in his own fucking dickhole, Carl. Wow. For fun. You got to stretch that shit out for a bit, I would imagine.

You would imagine. It doesn't just go right in there. No, not at all. And the thorns. Oh, God, the thorns. Then he would pull it out and eat it. Did I mention he would eat it after he would eat the rose? Loggidly, I mean, it could be fake news.

I don't know who's reporting on this. Well, here's one fact that we do know about him. When he was ended up being arrested. Yeah. Here's just a little thing. that they discovered. When he was arrested, over two dozen needles were found in fishes, pelvis, and perinium, and were all self-embedded.

Yeah, that's right. He used to like to stick needles in his own dick for fun. So when he was arrested, there were over two dozen needles in his nuts and in his fucking taint. I have a friend who got his penis pierce. What's that called? Prince Albert, I believe. Yeah, the Prince Albert. I mean, this isn't uncommon.

Some people just like to shove things into their genitalia. I don't know. You ever see a pierce a nipple on a chick? It's kind of a turdod. Now, here's my thing. If people are into sadomasochism, they're into sadomasochism. It's their body. I don't give a fuck what you do.

Then why are we talking about it? Because it gets worse. Oh, okay. In 1919, Fish stabbed an intellectually disabled boy in Georgetown. He chose people that, like I said, mentally handicapped or African-American. He would, he murdered, mutilated the bodies of children, Carl. With what he called his implementation. of hell.

He had a meat cleaver, a butcher knife, and a small hand saw it. Those were his little tools. Now, funny story, in 1930, he had a run-in with the cops. He got remarried to a woman named Estella Wilcox. They got divorced after one week. Oh, nice. Yeah, this marriage was about to last. And in the 30s, I feel like marriages lasted longer than that on average, right?

Well, it ended because he had another weird little habit that he used to do. He used to love to read the classifieds in the newspaper. And then he would send people obscene letters. Oh, that's kind of fun. Right? Like, you know, I would do that. Yeah, like it would just be, to this day, it's like going on Craigslist and fucking with people. Yeah, right.

But, you know, there's also no paper trail at this point because you put a letter in an envelope, whatever. So he got arrested like a week after getting married for sending an obscene letter to a woman who was looking for a maid. So he's just not a normal dude. You can get arrested for sending an obscene letter. letter in 1930 you can and they sent him to bellevue psychiatric hospital for observation wow what a war wolf ooh ooh the man the brooklyn vampire watch out he's sending out letters look out watch over this guy okay he's gonna write some saucy language to do a letter and send it to you when you're just looking for a maid service uh-oh well this guy's naughty in may may 25th 1928

fish saw classified advertisement in the sunday edition of the new york world and read young man 18 wishes position in country. Edward Budd was an 18-year-old kid who wanted a job. Fish was 58 years old. He went to the Bud's family. They put their address in the class fight. He went over to the house under the pretense of hiring Edward. He later confessed that he planned to tie up Edward,

mutilate him, and leave him to bleed to death. Fish introduced himself as Frank Howard, a farmer from Farmingdale, New York. He promised to hire Bud and his friend Willie, and he said he would send for them in a few days. But he didn't show up. He then sent a telegram saying, apologizing, and he came back a few days later. When he came back, he met Edward's younger sister, Grace, and he changed his mind as to who his victim was.

Oh, okay. I guess Grace didn't make a good first impression, huh? No, no, no, no. He did not. He met the parents, and that very same day, he said, you know, I have to attend my niece's birthday party over here. Grace might really enjoy going with us. Can I take Grace to my niece's birthday party? And the parents said, sure, you're going to hire our other.

son, yeah, absolutely. You could take our 10-year-old daughter with you. Oh, boy, okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. These are parents of the year. Smart move. Now, they never saw Grace again, obviously. But in 1934, an anonymous letter was sent to Grace's parents, which ultimately led the police to Mr. Fish. Mrs. Budd was illiterate and could not read the letter herself, so she had her other son read it to her. Here is the letter. These are the types of details that you throw in that she's like, who gives a shit? Okay. Well, here's the- Who cares me running? I just want you to imagine that this woman couldn't read it herself. She had to get somebody to read this to her. Okay.

And now you're going to have it read to you. All right, let's hear it. I called on you at 4.06, West 15th Street, brought you pot cheese, strawberries. We had lunch. Grace sat in my lap and kissed me. I made up my mind to eat her on the pretense of taking her to a party. You said yes, she could go. I took her to an empty house.

In Westchester, I had already picked out. When we got there, I told her to remain outside. She picked wild flowers. I went upstairs and stripped all of my clothes off. I knew if I did not, I would get blood on them. When all was ready, I went to the window and called her. Then I hid in the closet until she was in the room. When she saw me all naked, she began to cry and tried to run down.

I grabbed her and she said she would tell her mama. First I stripped her naked how she did kick, bite and scratch. I choked her to death, cut her up in small pieces so I could take my meat to my rooms, cook it and eat it. How sweet and tender her little ass was roasted in the oven. It took me nine days to eat her entire body. I did not fuck her, though I could have. Had I wished, she died of virgin. So six years later.

A weird way to end that letter. Six years later without hearing from your daughter. Was she hoping that she lost her virginity when she was dead? I would hope that she would die a virgin. It's a weird brag, right? Yeah, it's weird. It's a weird brag. I told her could have fucked her.

Well, yeah. I just ate her body instead over nine days. This motherfucker ate this child, Carl. And it wasn't the only kid that he ate. Okay. There's five other children that are accounted for. But the reason I'm playing just this one, we could sit here and play clips of this stuff all day. Well, it's not a tickle fight.

At least you brought a cannibal this time. I did. I gave credit for that. A child cannibal. All right. Now, he did this like five other kids. It's pretty fucked up. One kid was a little boy.

And that story is really sick because he sent the, he basically sent the parents the recipe that he used to cook him. Which is the tastier gender? Do we have an answer on this? I actually do, Carl. Okay, good. his little monkey was sweet as a nut but his peewee i could not chew i threw them in the toilet yeah so apparently girls taste better than boys that's what i was gonna guess yeah that's what i would have guessed yeah yeah so he chopped off a little boy's peewee yeah and uh yeah ha ha ha where's kevin ricotta

when we need him i know yeah but what am i so yeah pretty fucked up car My guy, Albert Fish. So he gets caught because of that letter that he sent to Grace Budd's parent through a good detective work. They caught this motherfucker. And when he went to prison, when he got arrested, he admitted it. But he blamed all of the victims in court. He said that God told him to do this because they were all going to grow up to be whores. Oh, okay.

He was a whore. I love when God tells people to do things. It's always my favorite cop out for anything that you do. When he was in custody, he regaled his attorney with stories of sexual assault, torture, and cannibalism. At his trial, the, oh, you motherfucker, how did I lose that clip? Several psychiatrists testified on fissue's sexual fetishes, such as, but in no way limited to, sadism, masochism, cannibalism, cannibalism, cunnillinous, fallatio, anilingus, flagellation, voyeurism, exhibitionism, picurism, urophilia, coprophagia, infibulation, and pedophilia. In his summation, Fish's defense attorney, James Dempsey,

noted Fish was a psychiatric phenomenon, and no legal nor medical records was there another individual with so many sexual abnormalities. So he's a pretty fucked up person. They said that there has never been anyone who was ever in the court system that was as depraved as this guy now they had a thing about not executing the mentally insane judge waived it this time judge was like uh the judge said uh we agree that he was outside the bounds of sadly but he needed to be executed anyway i think that should always be the case like who cares why they're a sadistic murderer just let's get it on the planet i'm with you so fish apparently agreed uh and he told the judge that it would be a supreme thrill to die in the electric chair.

It's the only thrill I haven't tried yet. All right. Has he heard about crystal meth? No, no, I don't think it was around that. Okay. So he died in the electric chair in 1936 in his last words, or I don't even know why I'm here. And there is a chilling photograph of him being strapped into the electric chair.

Oh, you got it for me? I'm going to pull it up for you. Yeah, that'd be great. I want you to see what this fucking weirdo looks like. Let's see this werewolf vampire. Oh, dude. They called him the gray man because he was just this old fucking guy. Like he was in his 50s when he was doing this shit

So old, gross Yeah, I know, you don't like gross old people That's a guy in his 50s Yeah, dude Jesus Christ, sir and John looks like he takes better care of himself Wow Yeah, he died in the electric chair So I would like to play for you

My summation clip today From our friend Norm MacDonald Who, after hearing the story of Albert Fisher This is what he had to say Finally someone funny on this show I know, right? Had to bring it a real comedian Yeah

Fish was finally arrested, and he immediately began confessing to killing 700 children. Get out of here. Yes. And he was dizzingly happy about it, smiled as he described the grisly details of the tortures and the murders. Appearing to the detectives, and one of the detectives said he appeared as the devil himself. I mean, this, Albert, I mean, this guy was a real jerk. Yep. This guy was a real jerk.

I knew he'd go for something like that. Yeah, so there you go. Albert Fish, that's my creep this week. All right. That's a great creep, Vinny. My creep this week is possibly mother of the year. You might know who this is. She's been in the news lately.

Lori Valo. Are you familiar with Lori Valo? I am. Lori Valo is a mother of two, Tiley, 16-year-old daughter, and JJ, the seven-year-old autistic son. Now, what happened with Lori is she left her husband, Charles and started hanging out with this guy named Chad Daybell.

And let me explain to you what Chad Daybell is up to. Daybell was a former gravedigger turned novelist and podcaster from Rexburg, Idaho, who some say was something of a local cult leader, says Morgan. He tapped into this prepper element out there, people who wanted to prepare for Armageddon. So this guy was writing books about how he's able to see into the future and see the other side. He started a little bit of a cult.

Interesting that they mentioned podcaster in there. I like that that's one of the descriptions of this guy. Watch out for this guy. He's a podcaster. Uh-oh. Wow. So yeah, he played in some crazy shit and he and

Lori became best buds. He reportedly believed he had numerous past lives and could talk to angels. My two near-death experiences. He also claimed he could read light and dark oras. Chad had this belief that some people who were on this earth weren't really the people they were supposed to be. They were zombies. Their souls had left them and evilness took over their bodies. So Chad had this theory that he could determine there were certain people on earth that

weren't actually people. Their souls were gone and they were just zombies. And this woman, Lori, mother of two, is really interested in what this guy has to say. And so she becomes a co-host on their podcast. Yay! Lori started doing podcasts with Chad

and began telling people she was a supernatural being appointed by God to lead the 144,000 chosen into the millennium. She also believed she had been appointed another more ominous role, says April.

Part of her mission on Earth was to eliminate the darkness, the demonic, the evil. Good. We need more people like that, don't you think? Yeah, we need more religious nuts on this planet. We need more people to get rid of all these evil people. Well, one of the targets turned out to be her ex-husband, Charles, and she let Charles know that she was probably going to take care of it. So Charles was smart enough because he's getting threats on this woman he now thinks that she is leading these 144,000 people into the next life. She's a prayer warrior.

That, yes, that he should probably change his life insurance. So he takes it from her name to his sister's name because he doesn't want to get killed. Unfortunately, that wasn't enough. Within an hour of entering the house that morning, Charles was lying on the floor in a pool of blood, shot in the chest by Alex Cox. 9-1-1, where is your emergency? So this brings into this other character, Alex Cox, who happens to be Lori's brother. Okay. Now, Lori's brother said he went into the home and that this guy was threatening him with a baseball bat and he shot him in self-defense.

Lori and Tiley are questioned by the police and they corroborate on the story that it was all self-defense and therefore there was no wrongdoing. So everybody backed him up. Everyone backed him up. And these people then moved closer to Chad Daybell. They all moved to Idaho. So the mom and the kids, as well as the brother, moved into a townhouse complex in Idaho so they could be closer to Chad Daybell, the podcaster and gravedigger. All right.

So as you know, they're concerned about these soulless zombies. Now, you do not want to hear from Lori that she considers you to be a zombie. It's not a good thing. We know that in the spring of 2019, Lori started referring to Tiley as a zombie to at least one of her close friends. One of those close friends was April Raymond. And she had described Tiley as having a dark spirit.

Uh-oh, well, it sounds like her 16-year-old daughter's got to go because she's a zombie and has a dark spirit. So lo and behold, in September of 2019, Uh, Tiley came home from, uh, from school one day and no one ever heard from her again. Apparently, according to they were able to get Alex's, uh, phone and they could track where Alex had gone. They found out that, uh, or somewhere around 3 a.m. He went over to Tiley's place, was there for a couple hours. And then at 9 a.m. went over to Chad Daybell's place.

Chad Debel, the gravedigger, just happens to have a pet cemetery in his backyard. Where else are you going to put your dead pets? Of course. So for a couple hours... Not everybody has a garbage disposal, Carl. For a couple hours, Alex was over there and disposed of the body that was timely. But nobody knows this, of course. They totally got away with it.

Now, you still got JJ. Yeah. You know, you still got the younger son, the autistic seven-year-old in the house. So hopefully he's going to be all right. All right. So apparently they were doing a podcast in the living room, right? This, this Chad and Lori. And the next day, JJ was nowhere to be found.

And people were asking what was going on with JJ. But the little boy was nowhere to be seen the next morning. Lori explained why. She said that he was being a zombie and climbed up on the cabinets, climbed up on top of the bridge, her picture of Christ down and then climbed up onto the upper cabinets and got between the top of the cabinet and the ceiling not my priceless picture of Christ I asked to see him and she just said that he was out of control so she had Alex come and get him

all right so now JJ's being a zombie that can't be a good sign for him he broke her picture of Christ Carl it is a clear sign that the devil is in the boy yes the soul has definitely left this child so of course this is a couple weeks after the daughter is buried the son is buried a spoiler about a year later they did find the body and this is how they found the body the child was covered head to toe in duct tape he had duct tape continuously wrapped from elbow all the way around his arms over his hands all the way to his right elbow now why would you wrap a child in duct tape. If they're out of control, zombies, Carl.

Well, I think the answer is this. Why do you bind somebody's feet and hands and mouth in duct tape? You do it to keep them from yelling or talking. The way they found that body leads you to believe that JJ was still alive because you don't go through all that trouble to somebody who's already dead. They buried a seven-year-old autistic kid alive in order to kill him. It's pretty rough. Yeah, but did they cook him? What happened to Tiley, I wonder?

Because of the condition of Tiley's remains, it's hard to tell what happened to her. The only thing we can know for sure is that at one point, whoever did this, dismembered her body and burned it. Okay. so these people are a lot of fun now now here's the thing though like when you think about this yeah they must have really believed this zombie shit because like the only logical thing that i can think of is they tied the kid up and buried him like if he's a zombie it doesn't matter anyway you think they really believe this shit i almost do pal because listen man i grew up

with really really crazy religious people yeah and they believe at all man i've seen people try to cast the devil out other people okay they believe it yeah but they're intense people who aren't having as much fun as these two people now let's get to the fun part let's get to the fun part of the story kids are missing and and nobody knows this yet all right so lorry and chat are just going about their lives and they're doing their podcast and they're hanging out and then uh this happens now oh did i mention that um Tammy is uh Chad dad's wife. So Chad's a married man. Right. And he was having an affair. Well, I don't know if he was having an affair or not, but this might help explain it. Now, the cold glare of death would

shift focus to Chad Daybell's family. Roughly one month after JJ's death, Chad's 49-year-old wife, Tammy Daybell, died mysteriously in her sleep. Two and a half weeks later, the widower and the Mary Widow wed in Hawaii. So the two kids are gone. Nobody knows that. Now this guy's wife dies in her sleep. She's like 50 years old. And the next thing that happens,

two and a half weeks later, they get married. They go to Hawaii for their honeymoon. How are they doing on downloads for that show? Were they getting a lot of listeners? I want to listen to the show. So bad, I couldn't find it. Because if you Google podcast with either of these people's names,

it's just a billion stupid True Cry podcast talking about this. Right. What you got to look up is doing a better job than I'm doing. What you got to look up is like Daybell Exhibit A is what I think you do. Yes. I know. Because I would listen to this podcast if I could find it. These people are nuts.

Dude, that would be a great WATP bonus. That would be fun. That would be a good one. Call me for that one. I'll keep looking for it. If anybody knows where it is, let me know. So, yeah, I know what you mean. Did they really think that there were zombies out there?

Do they really believe their own bullshit? Because there's religious people out there that really believe their own brand of shit, man. Sure. Sure. I think some, I think some do. I think most, like cult leaders don't. The leaders of these things always know that it's all bullshit So this guy knows

And the reason why I know that is because What's fucked up about that is they all believe The leaders all believe they're doing the right thing I don't know This guy thinks that this shit is real Even though it's not like real real But he thinks it's gonna make people's lives better That's why he does it

There's no way He does it for him Because that's why he's got a podcast And he writes books Are you saying you don't think he's altruistic at his intentions I don't think he's altruistic in his intentions many All right Because after the wife is gone

and the kids are gone now they're able to be together they go to hawaii there's all these pictures of them with ukuleleys and they're just all happy and having fun yeah because there's no zombie children running around right shit right they got rid of all the zombie children so they don't have a care in the world and it wasn't until this is unbelievable to me this is idaho in 2019 this is last year nobody even knew these kids were missing until finally the grandmother of jj went to the police Where's the quiet one? Where did the quiet one go? They're like, finally, they heard enough excuses.

They haven't seen this kid in a long time. So the police show up over at Lori's house, and they ask what's going on with that. And now Lori says that, oh, JJ, he's just staying with my friend Melanie down in Arizona. They're like, okay, can we call Melanie and figure out what's going on? So they do, and she's not responding. So the police go back over to Lori's.

I always love when people get into really fine details with their bullshit stories. Like, how are you going to continue to do this forever? But this was her explanation as to why Melanie wasn't getting back to the police officer. When the police returned to Lori's home, she embellished her story even more. Well, they were going to Frozen 2 today, so they may be up the movies. Could you get a hold of her at some point and say, can you please call back the officer that's been trying to call you? Okay, sure. Yeah, because I think they are the movies right now.

She can't produce the whereabouts of her seven-year-old autistic child. And her excuse is, I think they went to go see Frozen Do. Yeah. That's not going to buy you a lot of time. Well, when they get done with Frozen Duke, could you have her call me, please? Oh, yeah. You know what? They might be going to a go-kart track after that.

It's a really busy day. I don't know. I think her friend Stephanie's having a birthday that they were going to go to. Yes, right. Wow. So that's what I love about these people who are really, they're always going to get caught because they're so dumb. They don't have any plan in place. Like, how did you not have a plan in place?

You just wrapped your kid up and duct tape and buried him alive. You didn't think like, someone's going to wonder where this kid is at some point. And it took it until November until they did. No, I'm convinced they believe that this was the right thing to do. The craziest part about it, Vinnie, is there's a 16-year-old daughter who went missing two weeks before JJ. There was nobody worried about that. Melanie handed that secret recording to authorities, and investigators launched a nationwide search, but not just for JJ. It was then that they realized his sister, Tiley, was also missing.

This is a man's world. The little boy is missing. So Melanie records a conversation she has with Lori, hands it over to the police. The police are not like, oh shit, JJ's definitely missing. And then they're like, has anyone seen his sister? Wait, what's her name? I mean, this girl has friends and shit. How is that possible that nobody reported this girl was missing?

Apparently, she didn't. I mean, she's not in school. Anyway, I just thought that was hilarious. So now it's well-known news. There's billboards up. Everyone's looking for these children. There's missing children. And they're Lori's children.

And guess what Lori decides to do? The only two people who didn't seem concerned were Lori and Chad. Instead of helping search, they skipped. off to another vacation back in Hawaii. They're back in Hawaii again. Of course they're not concerned. They duct taped him before they buried him. He's not getting out.

They went back to Hawaii and, of course, reporters are trying to track them down as they're just hanging out on their vacation. Can you tell me where your kids are? There's people around the country praying for your children, praying for you guys. Why don't you give us answers? That's great.

That's great. It's not a good look. It's not a good look if your kids are missing and you don't give a fuck and you're out with your new husband. been going on vacations all the time and living it up they're fine they're in the holes we left them in right yeah they're not going anywhere we know exactly where they are they're not going anywhere they're exactly where we left them you motherfucker so finally this woman is given an order

to produce the kids within five days like all right you got five fucking days to figure out where these kids are not the boss of me she was formally served in order to produce tiley and jj within five days. She ignored it and was arrested on the island of Kauai on child abandonment charges. Chad showed his support in the courtroom as Lori was extradited to Rexburg, Idaho. All right, so finally this woman is arrested and she's got to face her day in court. Now, what's interesting is that in this time that it took for them to get arrested and then for them to finally find where the bodies were because if you can't produce a body there is no crime correct so they finally find the bodies and i would see alex cox his cell phone is what led

them to uh chad's place and what figured out where the bodies were and how they're able to dig them up and find them and luckily Alex has also passed away but what about the man who led them to day bell's backyard Alex Cox Lori's brother Incredibly, he too had died. He dropped dead six months before J.J. and Tiley were found. Oh, okay. Well, that's interesting. Dropped dead.

So we got a dead ex-husband, a dead wife, a dead brother, two children that were found buried in this guy's pet seven. And one happy couple. And one happy couple. And there's speculation that they're going to be able to say that Alex did all of this and they're going to walk free. Alex was the Prigger man. And Alex has already dead. dead. So how are they going to prosecute Chad and Lori? I am horrified that law enforcement isn't

going to be able to find anything to tie him to this. That terrifies me. All right. Calm down. I'm terrified. It's fine. They should be in big trouble. It's like, they'll get something. So you can't have buried children in your backyard and I can arrest it for something. Does anybody think that they're going to actually get away with this? Well, it's interesting that you say that, Vinnie, because this is still an ongoing investigation. Yeah. And because they've just discovered where these children are and what happened to them, now they're starting to look suspiciously as some of these other things that happened. The body of Chad's wife, Tammy Daybell, has been exhumed. Uh-oh. And investigators are now calling

her death suspicious. Yeah. Authorities in Arizona are also investigating the shooting death of Lori's former husband, Charles Valo. It appears that Chandler police believe Lorde. had something to do with Charles's death. Yeah, it does. It does appear that way. So they've exhumed the body of Tammy, the wife of Chad, and they're investigating Charles being shot by Alex. They probably just left JJ there because nobody wants to deal with the duct tape.

Like getting that stuff unstuck, now it's been in the ground for so long. I mean, you're just to be pulling out parts of the kid when you start to take it. That's a mess. Leave him down there. Is there even a guy that does that? Like usually, oh, I know a guy. Don't worry about it. We'll get this figured out.

I don't think there's a guy for that. There's a guy who does everything when it comes in Denpon. He's Colonel. I don't know about that one. I don't know how you specialize in something like that. So anyway, Lori Valo and her hubby Chad Daybell. That would be my creep this week on the creepop. I have a question.

Where did this story come from in your mind? Was it because you were listening to Drew and Mike? Drew and Mike were talking about it a lot, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People are calling you out on the YouTube. Just want you to know. Oh, no shit.

You know where I actually got the idea, though? I have heard about this on Drew and Mike, but I asked my wife who is a fan of true crime if there's been any crazy stories. Does she want to do a podcast? I know she actually know this shit. So I asked her and she brought this up. I said, oh, yeah, that's a great one. And I didn't even know all the detail.

So I watched an entire 48 hours or whatever that show is called. Very well produced that show. It is a very well produced show. And you chopped it up nicely to get all your clips. So I chopped it up better than they chopped up. the daughter and before they buried her. But not quite as well as my man, Albert Fish, did when he was cooking and eating children. In fact, one kid, they said that he stabbed him in the stomach then just drank the blood

as it came out of the wound. I forgot to mention that earlier. I hate when you do this. I feel like you do this on purpose. You leave a detail out just so you can sandwich my story. You love sandwiches. You love pizza. I'm surprised you not pizzaing my story.

You do this every time, though. Seriously. I think it's cheating. I think you're a cheater, and I don't like it. He's a real jerk, Carl. He's a real jerk. I get it. Are we got any voicemails or anything coming through?

Yeah, we did. This one came in from a lady. Holy shit. This week is brutal. I wish there was a way to vote for both, but then he definitely got the win this week. Yeah, I just thought you liked to know. Okay.

I want to make a comment. about that i think this is important to point out so apparently i played audio of someone getting raped on the show last week yeah i was just going to gloss over it because i never want to think about it again i didn't say it at the time but i want you to know that police investigated that and no charges uh they didn't press any charges and there's it doesn't seem like that any of that was real oh so i deserved to win you deserved to win i didn't want to say the text i wanted people to vote for me Just so you guys know, I didn't actually bring... You bastard!

I didn't actually bring audio of a woman getting great because that would be very disturbed. All week I was horrified. I had conversations with people. I was like, listen, should I play this? I did too. I'm just wondering, should we play this? Should I, like, try to get this cleared somewhere?

Like, I was trying to figure out what the responsible thing to do is with your careless attitude. It appears that it was a prank. Ah, episode was even a day late and people made fun of me. Oh, is that why it was a day late? Not exactly, but a little bit of it. But, uh, all right, so here's some. More comments on last week's episode.

All right, all it takes is one drunken time where Vinny's got a call in and sit through the ring, and now no ring. Hey, how about that shit? Maybe now Vinny's got to listen to that last episode and realize how unfunny it was, and we'll get funny podcasts from here on now. Jesus Christ, guys. This week didn't help your cause, but maybe next week there'll be a funny episode. This is just another response to last week's episode.

Fuck you, Carl and Vinny. the parents, I had to take a shower after that episode. Fuck both of you. Now, even your creep parade was total shit. It was awful. It's called the scum parade, pal. Yeah. Scum parade.

Get it right. Yeah, that was a rough one last week. We couldn't put enough trigger warnings or disclaimers on that one. Yeah, it was a weird episode. But I hope you enjoyed it. Hope you enjoyed it. Hope you enjoyed it. I got a... Now that you know, it was all just a lark. I bet you can go back and listen to it. Enjoy it. It's all just good on everybody. Last voice fellow of the week. You're going to enjoy this one, Carl. It is for you.

Hey, Carl. This is Chad Zumach. This is how I talk. You stopped returning my calls on the WATP line, but I just wanted to let you know that Chrissy Mayer is a cunt, and also that John Melendez was nice to me. Also, Burke Reischer is terrible, but I do have his phone number. Give me a call back,

buddy. I can't wait to host again. Bye. I don't understand what any of that is, but just thought you'd enjoy it. Well, after you listen to WATP, you'll know. I do want to make an announcement that I'm going on the Chrissy Mayer podcast later today. Gross. Would you do?

Is that with your consequence on the wheel? That should be the consequence. That's it. That's it. That sounds good. I got a voicemail here as well. Carl, this is for the creep off. I'm calling to let you know that Vinny did not complete his punishment.

See, on the wheel of consequences, he had to listen to Dead Town and all these other horrible podcasts for 12 hours. And if you listen to the show, Or if you watch his live stream, it's 12-hour live stream. He didn't really listen to any of these podcasts. He just kind of fucked around in chat the whole time. So I think he's got to restart. Nope.

And P.S., the only reason I call this voicemail is because it takes four years to call the other one. Not anymore. I fixed it. You fixed it. All right. That's cool. So, sir. People are calling shenanigans on you, Vinny.

I did it. You might be a cheater. I did it. And you're going to do every fucking second of your consequence, whatever it is. pal just a reminder all right all right so you ready for a scum parade yeah let's go to the scum parade well in the middle of the night and the early morning light you can see these are creeps from miles away they'll be banging their kiss and banging sibling driving up a cliff with children on board watch out for the scum parade oh no it's scum parade

Invinny's day His day Oh, I love that song. I love the Scum Brigade. Now, are you ready for your scum parade this week, folks? Here we go. We're going to start off in Salt Lake City, Utah, where a man was rested Saturday

after police say he refused to return a car he was test driving to the dealership and drove at dangerous speeds on the freeway. You ever thought about doing this, Carl? No, but now I do. no thinking about it a lot Did you see the guy Did you look at the picture of the man

How would you describe him? He looked like Jared Letters Joker But more methy Disheveled According to court records 43 year old Caleb Gibson Was conducting a test driver On the Salt Lake City

When the sales associate in the vehicle Told him to return to the dealership The salesman told police Gibson refused And while the employee was calling 911 He said Gibson sped up to 100 miles per hour Turn the music up Roll the windows down And ran away from the police

there was a police pursuit and he decided to try to evade the police. Gipson told police he was scared to stop the car because the sales associate was yelling at him and grabbing the steering wheel trying to make him pull over. Seems like a logical thing to reason not to pull over when

someone's grabbing the steering wheel. If Subaru doesn't take advantage of this and use this in their next commercial, I'll be very disappointed. Are you tired of the same old dealership with the same old salespeople selling the same old cars? We'll tell your wife and kids to hit the bricks and head over to your Subaru dealership.

We're not offering any old test drives. Strap in next to Vin Diesel because there's a heist and you're in, motherfucker. A hundred miles per hour, you know it. Heavy metal through 7.1 surround sound? Fuck yes! Police pursuit that ends in your arrest? Why not? You're driving the world's safest car.

You're driving a Subaru motherfucker. Dude, I'll buy two. I used to work for a Subaru dealership. Did I ever tell you that? No. Yeah, I used to work for one. And there was a big problem with people who looked like this guy coming in trying to drive out, what are they, WRXs. Okay.

Like the really nice, like Subaru stockards. People wanted to drive them because they soup them up for racing and they take them out for crazy test drives all the time. I'm guessing that's what happened here. But the fact that this dude decided like go on a car chase with the police chasing him, put him right in the scum parade, ladies and gentlemen. Well, if you're going to break the wall, why put a witness into the passenger seat next to you? It just seems like a really bad idea. They weren't going to let this motherfucker take the car by himself. No, that I understand.

I'm just saying it's not. I've gone in to shop for cars and they're like, go ahead, sir. You doughy, fat white guy, you don't look like you're going to be a problem. This fucking guy, I'm thinking he's taking it to the next chop shop. All right. What else we got, buddy? Rachel Hilliard, 38, was sentenced to life in prison this past week. And Cedric County, first degree murder of Mickey Davis, who was a,

63 years old at the time of her death. Apparently on April 9th, 2017, Davis was killed after she went to Hilliard's home to pick up items that belonged to her son, Jacob, Gillespie. Now, Hilliard and Gillespie were dating. They had a kid together, supposedly, and they were in the process of a messy breakup. So the mother went over there to pick up some of his things. During Hilliard's trial, prosecutors argued that she was going to kill Davis all along and that this was just the opportunity.

Hilliard claimed that Davis came over to the house They were arguing over a painting And Ms. Davis fell down Okay, that's what happens when you're arguing People just fall down Right, right So Rachel Hilliard decided that after she fell down She had no choice

Because she said that she fell down and died She had no choice But to cut Davis's head off By using two steak knives Sounds like a real pain in the neck Waka Hylia left her head in the sink and her claim was that she said

the things told me that I didn't have much time and I had to get her head away from her body so her soul could get free and go to heaven God told her that yeah isn't it funny her and Albert Fish both isn't it funny who's taught God is talking to it's always like meth heads yeah complete fucking ludic also it's really funny

she thought she had to decapitate the head in order for the soul to leave the body is that why we have so many ghosts we're not decampitating enough heads of our dead bodies we gotta be like every time someone dies we need a fucking Highlander at the morgue to just fucking chop a head off. Yes.

This is the problem that we have. Davis and her nine-year-old grandson both went to Hilliard's home that day, but he went to go get help after the attack started and did not witness his grandmother's beheading. Hilliard said that she went to speak to Davis' grandson who run away and hid in the truck

before she beheaded Davis. So she killed this woman. And then it's like, come here, kid, come here, kid. But she couldn't find the kids hiding in the trunk. Then she goes and chops off to her former, I guess, closest to a thing to a mother-in-law you could have without being made.

Mary chopped her fucking head off with steak knives and put it in the sink. Wow. And she even said, I thought I had to take her head off because I was pretty sure she was like, I reckon she's dead. I better take her head off. It's a 50-50 shot that she's already passed away anyway. It all makes sense to me, Carl. It all makes sense to me.

Crystal Melf is a hell of a drug. Yeah. So they said she suffers from mental illness, but she is going to prison for life. Yep. Her competency was also questioned multiple times because some people think she is all there. some people think that she isn't either way going to jail you know how I know she's crazy

she's a woman you could send your letters to creep off pot at gmail.com all right geez louise here's a fucked up story for you that I think is going to go down into urban legend this is why I like this one

a 12 year old georgia girl may have died as an indirect result of severe lice infestation why are you laughing so hard that story is insane It is insane. I mean, like, when you were a kid and someone got lice in your class. Ew, gross.

Right. You never wanted to be around that person again. Right. This poor little fucking girl had lice for years, apparently, for three years. Okay. The Georgia borough of investigation special agents testified in her death that young Caitlin died of a cardiac arrest with a secondary cause being severe. anemia. They said that the anemia was caused by being

bitten in the fucking scalp by lice. Right. Now, the parents... So many bites over months and years of time. The new details are really crazy. The parents, Katie Horton and Joey Yosevic, they were charged with

second degree child cruelty. The mother, Katie Horton, told investigators Caitlin, and not bathed within the last week and a half before she died. When agents got to the home in August, the inside was filthy, with vermin covering the mattresses, stuffed animals, and other furniture in Caitlin's room. I don't say this lightly, Benny. I think this girl might have had a better shot of being raised by stuttering John. Yeah. She could play with the roaches. You know what they

should have done? They're not going to bite her. You know what they should have when the cop showed up? It's put up a green screen. Wow. What a nice living room you have? Can I play that piano? It's just for show. It's Caitlin's, that was Caitlin's podcast studio. So they removed her two brothers from the home Because it's obviously disgusting I think they should remove the rodents too This isn't safe living conditions for anything This is the technical explanation

Lice lowered her blood iron levels Which likely caused the anemia Which triggered the cardiac arrest So this kid died From not having a fucking bath From not having like the lice shampoo at school Where was the school? How fucking dirty Can this kid be?

It's Georgia good point yeah but now you know for the rest of eternity kids would be like with the kid who has likes they could die from that god i'm pissing off everybody that listens to us today what am i doing i don't know i think you are too i don't think they like to begin with fair enough someone's got to be the heel on this show you had your fucking big likeable teddy bear uh 12 hour stream that's me baby everybody loves viti yeah yeah yeah i don't do my chris farley laugh. All right. This story is also a lot of fun. We are going overseas for the scum parade. We are going to Hong Kong, Carl. A kindergarten teacher poisoned 25 children. Yeah. Only killing one of them, though. After an argument with... Only killing one of them. Yeah. She's not breaking her job. Yeah, well, common core. After an argument with a rival staff member, she has been sentenced to death by a court in Central China. They have it right over there. They'll just fucking off you when you do shit like this. Well, keep reading. I don't know if they have it all that right. That's true.

The intermediate people's court in Hinen province described killer Wayne Young's motives as despicable and vicious. The court said that leading up to the poisoning, Wang had quarreled with another teacher at Jiazhu Kindergarten over how best to handle the students. Then on the morning of March 27, 2019, Wang added nitrate to porridge supplied by the school and intended for the other teacher's students. Yep. Oops. Whoops. Whoops. I'll show you how bad of a teacher you are.

Yeah. Poisoned all of your students. She was going to poison all of her students and be like, she can't even keep her kids alive on her watch. I obviously am the better teacher. That's what was happening here. Sabotaging co-workers, it goes out at every workplace. Oh my God, exactly right.

Absolutely tried to sabotage the other teacher. And according to US Centers for Disease Control Prevention, Nitrate is a toxin and likely a carcinogen used in fertilizers food preservation and even uh munitions and explosions at high levels it could stop the human body from absorbing oxygen it's even worse than msg if you can believe it now here's the thing about wang someone isolate that here's the thing about way let me see that fuck you uh young wang had previously been caught trying to poison her husband yes so this is where t-shirts unions are a little bit out of control yeah This is going to be a little bit controversial, but I don't want people who tried to murder their husband raising our children or teaching our kids at school.

Yeah. Doesn't that? See, that was just in 2017 that she was caught trying to poison her husband. And she's teaching a kindergarten glass. And she used nitrate then too. Yep. And he survived. I know she's not good at it.

Yeah, I mean, like, why go back to the nitrate? You can't even fucking kill the guy at home. I mean, maybe she thought, you know, their kindergartners, a little dab will do you? They don't have Amazon over there. It's not as easy to buy poison as it is here in the States. That is true. So basically, the kids were all vomiting. It's a terrible situation.

And she is a sentenced to death. So the children were vomiting and passed out. One of them died. There were needle marks in their heads where they were torturing them with needles and poking them in the heads. And the school's official response is it had not yet found any evidence to substantiate the claims. Yeah. There's no. No, there's no evidence that any of this.

But yet we're still going to kill the teacher. There's no. Here's what you just did. There's actually two stories there. There are two separate stories. One's from a separate kindergarten. And that's where the teacher was supposedly poking the kids with the needles. Oh, I thought this was the same woman.

No, different person. So here's what I thought. Because Chinese children are very well behaved. Absolutely. Because you poke them with needles when they misbehave. Right. I'm thinking, we need these teachers. Don't sentence to death.

Sentence them to the Rochester District School. of the Rochester School District. You would think that if needles could keep people in line, Albert Fish would have behaved a lot better, Carl. Well, that's a good point. Yeah. I'm just saying we need a little bit more discipline in the Rochester City School. Yes, that's what I'm trying to say.

Thank you. No problem. I'm just spitting that out. That is this week's scum parade, ladies and gentlemen. Hope you enjoyed it. Thank you for listening to the show. We really appreciate you. All right.

Make sure that you call us and leave us a voice. Now, let us know what you thought of this episode. 585371.808. You could follow us on Twitter and Instagram at creepoff pod i should let you guys know with instagram what i'm doing is whenever you guys make those fun photoshops i'm going to start throwing them all up on the instagram so folks can see all the fun fan arts you guys have made so if you want to send any of that if you have anything you want to put us to put on the instagram you can send it to the creepoff pot at gmail dot com i want to remind everyone

that who are these podcasts does not have an instagram account that is true stop liking those images stop commenting on them i should probably say this on w at p yeah good point and uh listen and subscribe tell your friends leave a review it's nice to be important it's more important wait we got to spin the wheel oh fuck you're trying to end the show we got to no you're spinning this fucking i can't believe he forgot you were so giddy about it you were a giddy gitty and then you totally forgot what we're even yes and then you totally forgot what we're doing okay there's the wheel there's the wheel everyone can see it on screen no shenanigans going on I can't believe I got it.

I can't believe I did either. I know we're running away today. I know we're running along, but Jesus Christ. I got shit to do. So let's talk about what's on the wheel before you spin it, Carl. Okay, yeah. Do you want me to go through it? Yeah, please.

All right. There's drive to Geary Indiana still on here? Yep. Fuck that. Tom Myers restaurant. The seven second porn challenge where if I roll that, I have to stand somewhere in a crowded public area. I think in line at Wegmans.

Something like that. Can it be tops? Because I don't know what's there. I just stand in a lot. stand in line and watch Pittsburgh Weigman's Pittsburgh Weigman No that's not the day

And watch porn loudly on my phone for seven seconds Stuttering John book report We have to buy Suthering John's book And then write a book report about it And then it'll be graded by a teacher And then it'll be graded by an actual teacher We're crocks in public

For a day There's actually for a month No it's not It's for a day There's semenology Yeah that's not a good one Seaminology you have to buy The autographed copy

The Seamon Love mixed cocktail guide and you have to be seen reading it in public yeah that's a fun you have to go to a Starbucks and just sit there that's with your fucking semenology book that's a fun one right we have the Nick Bate cover song we got to cover one of Nick Bates awesome songs no you have to do an album you have to do a whole album of Nick Bates songs something like that all right oh we still have this one the mayonnaise bobbing for Apples.

Bobby for apples in a thing of mayonnaise. Correct. I don't even know. Brought in by a listener. I don't know that's going to work. I don't know why that's going to stick your face in mayonnaise. And it's going to be gross. Cudies movie athon.

Yep. How many times do you think you should have to watch it if you land on it? Once. Wrong. We got Vic standup. I've said you have to watch it at least three times in a row. We got the Vic standup, which means I have to go to an open mic and do Vic from WATP, the review girl. I got to do her stand-up.

Yeah, she's died, though. We got to do the, we got the shamis. stand up where i have to go to a open mic and do shamus's standup routine yep which that would be fun uh dinner with a listener oh adult diaper what's adult diaper you got to piss in an adult diaper you have to wear an adult diaper and use it oh god all right what if i develop a fetish after that and that's like turns into my thing that's fine it seems to be your problem you're not going to use my chair anymore but uh before you spend yeah the rules are simple whatever you get you have to do to the your utmost ability and not only that if you decide to pass on what you

land on i get to decide what you're doing let's do it all right and around it goes and around it goes everybody what it lands on i'll be pissed it is nick bait cover the nick made cover album well you look like you're skeptical you want to come over here and look at it i could see it's the nick made cover all right so you're going to do you're going to do all this you're going to do all of Nick Bates songs that cover, like I think you should put some effort into it. Oh, yeah, no, we'll get the jingles department involved. Maybe PJ could help me out. We'll, we'll do this up right.

Yeah, and it'll, and you're going to have to do this. Doug White. There's a way we're going to have to make this better. You're going to have to, like, put it on Instagram or on Apple Music. I'm going to your real name. Under your real name. I think the music of Nick Bates, hi Carl. And I think it has to go out there so people could download and listen to it.

I think that's to be the first seven tracks of the next isotopes album that we put out. Fine with me, but unexplained. unexplained but this album here's the thing about this album it has to be available for listeners they have to be able to get it and listen to it oh yeah yeah we'll put them on youtube or so we'll figure it out all right i mean i'm not gonna fucking buy publishing rights i'm not gonna give nick bait money please isn't he dead i don't think so i think he's in jail i thought he died in jail oh maybe yeah who cares uh he's a little he's a little shitt eater that carl hamburger sings the bates that's what's on leo on the youtube all right so let's try this guy doxing people

everybody here we go you're ready it's nice to be important it's more important to be nice good gear see you next week got to hit the music now how do we find new ways to fuck this show up every week you'd think we'd be out of ways to fucking show up I'm getting better oh yeah you hit your clip on a different computer it's the cream off He was ready to chew them I threw them in the toilet His little monkey was sweet as a nut But his pee-wee

I could not chew I threw them in the toilet I mean this guy was a real jerk