The Creep Off - #32 What Nagging Gets You

Episode Date: October 13, 2020

This week Vinnie & Karl shift through the trash to find out who is the world’s creepiest garbage man. These creeps don’t deserve the title of Sanitation Worker! In the scum parade we meet a woman with an electric personality, we learn what nagging gets you and finally we ask what is cruel and unusual punishment really?

Hey buddy, you ready to start the show? Yeah, let's do it. Hello, Creepos. Welcome to the worst contest on the internet. A show about creeps, by creeps, four creeps. My name is Vinnie Paulino. This is my co-host, Hot Carla. What is happening, Vinnie Paulino?

I'm feeling all right today. I'm feeling pretty confident. So we put out a poll. People could choose what the theme would be this week. They certainly did. We had a bunch of blue collar type of jobs. We went with the servicemen, the tradesmen. But before we do, let's talk about last week real quick, shall we, Carl?

Oh, right. Before we get that far, let's talk about last week. Our new algorithm, our very technical algorithm, has been put to work. It has calculated the votes in Carl. Would you like to read the results to everybody? I will. Now, if you go to our website right now, you will see that I actually have more votes than Vinny dead. Problem is is that there's some cheaters out there.

While I appreciate that they're cheating on my side, we had to go ahead and screen. rub some of those fake votes cheaters never prosper the result is Vinnie with 55% of the votes I mean you crushed me in our last round

five to one and now you already have a 1-0 lead on me for this round well listen man my creep was a guy who is probably the most debased individual I know, and you can only use that card once. I was talking to my buddy Crows about that. I thought that was kind of weak.

You just picked a guy out of history that was, I mean, if that's the case, then we can always just pick out like whatever mass murder we want to. It was wild card. You pulled out Robert Nielsen who committed his crimes like in the 80s. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why people weren't voting for you. It was wild card. I don't understand why you did that.

But all right. Well, either way, it worked. so ha ha ha point viny so let's talk about this week's theme shall we we did give everybody an opportunity to vote and this week we are going with the creepiest garbage man ladies and gentlemen they work hard they pick up the trash they don't like to be called garbage on their sanitation workers in 2020 but today we are going to discover who is the worst of the worst yeah this was an interesting uh choice why well because i wanted to research this and i don't even know to call these people to put it into Google.

I don't know what people use, like, trash collect, mafia boss. I don't even know what word you use to describe Garbage Men in the year 2020. A lot of Italians, I believe it's a good expression. Yeah, for sure. But they're my people. So, yeah, Garbage Men, it wasn't that hard. No. Because there's one guy who stands above the rest.

And that is My Creep this week. You want to ring that ball and we'll get into it. All right, ladies and gentlemen, my creep this week. Hales from the great state of California. not only was he a veteran, a civil serviceman, basically. He was a garbageman. He was a trash collector. That was his job.

He was also the subject to the first major case of familial DNA convictions. They found him through the DNA of somebody else and his family. We'll get to that in a little bit. But ladies and gentlemen, my creep today, his name is Lonnie Franklin Jr., aka the grim sleeper. And can I tell you my favorite fact about him, Carl, right out of the gate. Please do. When I saw the video of him in court, he looked exactly like,

W.W.E. Hall of Famer Teddy Long. Okay. I do not know. You don't know Teddy Long? No. Hold on. I'll pull up a picture for you. I'm sorry. I don't go as deep in pro wrestling as you. Teddy Long was a great manager. Jesus. You're going to laugh. I'm telling you, dude. He looks just like him.

I mean, if you said classy, Freddie Blassie or something, I would know what you were talking about. But Teddy Long. That's Teddy. Oh, okay. He looks just like. I've never seen that person before. Really? What era are we talking about?

80s and then like in the 2000s. All right. And let me show you a picture of Lonnie so I can tell you I'm not just saying they all look alike. Yeah, it's probably a good idea. Yeah, it's really a terrible thing to say, which is not what I'm saying, obviously. Oh, yeah. I see the resemblance.

Yes, they definitely look alike. It was not me just screwed around. But yeah, he definitely looked like. Who's like Booker T, too, don't you think? No. There are two men who happen to look identical. Well, my bet. That's all I got to say about that.

So we're going to talk about my friend Lonnie. Here's an interesting story about it. Went to prison, and he was convicted and sentenced to death for the murders of 10 people. He was kicked out of the military in 74. This is important. This is an important fact. I know you hate it when I go back and do this stuff. It's fine.

But him and two other army guys got kicked out together for tricking a 17-year-old German girl to get into a car with him. Then they gang raped her and took photos of it. I think I've seen the video of that, actually. Really? Yeah. There's a website. I'll shoot you the link afterwards. The men drove her home. They were like, okay, we're done gang raping you. We're talking, this is the 70s in Germany. Like, we're done gang raping you. Where do we take you? And she goes, oh, back to my house. And she tricked these fucking idiots. Not the best and the brightest way in the army. She goes, I really liked you guys. You guys are great. Can I get your phone number? And the guys who raped her gave the phone number. Obviously, she called the police. The police got in touch with the army. They were all sentenced to jail. And they were only in jail. And they were only in jail. jail for a year. And then they were, you ready for this, Carl? Yeah. They got a general discharge from the army. Yeah. Not a dishonorable discharge for raping a foreign national. Right. They got a, all right, you guys go home now. USA. USA. We're number one. We're number one. So, fuck,

yeah. So our military, definitely there's some dumb issues going on there. So this dude started raping when he was serving our country. But in spite of him, a rapist and being removed from the army. Well, we don't know what role he played in that. He could have just been watching the door. I'm pretty sure that he at least took the photos because there is going, we're going to talk about photos in a minute. In spite of being a rapist, he was employed as a sanitation worker in Los Angeles.

He knew all the city's alleys, the dumpsters, and landfills. And trust me, ladies and gentlemen, he used them a lot. Franklin's first known victim was a 29-year-old Deborah Jackson. Her body was discovered in August of 85. She had been shot three times in the chest and dumped in an alley. now here's the thing that's interesting that's his first known victim he shot and killed her after he raped her i think that maybe he learned from his experience in germany don't let him talk yeah so i think he escalated and just freaking murdered this girl just don't give me your phone number yeah that's

you don't have to kill people just don't give him your address don't hand him a business card asshole so all of his victims he did the same thing that albert fish kind of did and he found low income like people that wouldn't be missed in this particular case it was people with drug issues and prostitutes that were African American in Los Angeles in the 80s cops ignored all of it and they all thought it was drug related until later a year later in 1986

a like deluge of bodies started showing up all over the town Carl we learned from last week that if no one in the family is causing a stink then the cops aren't going to pay attention to it right if they don't if their family's like oh my gosh she's missing we don't know what's going on if they're not hearing that it's fine yeah no problem Pretty much. They found a 23-year-old, a 26-year-old, a 22-year-old, an 18-year-old, all dead and trash bins around L.A. Between 1985 to 1988. So all of legal age, though, that's good. All seven women have been shot with a 25-caliber handgun, and DNA from the same individual

was present on the breasts of each of the women. So that's not very much fun. DNA technology was not really so hot at the moment, so they didn't really know what to do with the DNA. They did store it, so that'll come into play. But they had no leave. They had nothing. These were just bodies all over different parts of town thrown into dumpsters. Yeah. Okay. So did they assume that it was one person who did all of these?

They did after they realized they were all shot with the 25 caliber gun. That was the one tying contributing factor to all of it. Now, years later, after Mr. Franklin was arrested, one of his victims who actually survived and got away from him in the 80s didn't realize that she was a part of this whole thing. But here is her telling her story about being picked up by Lonnie Franklin. He said, you want a ride? I said, yes, I will take a ride, sir. And he said, I just got off work.

So he opened up the door to let me in. He was nice to me at first when I got in the car. Next thing I know, we hit 180. He hit the corner so fast. I'm like, what are you doing? What are you doing? He's like, tonight, you will go one-on-one with the Undertaker. He was like, yeah, bitch, you're coming with me.

So she got in the car thinking he was a nice guy giving her a ride. And he got the screw job out at the glove department. He was shaking, he was shaking, shaking, he said, when I open up this door, you get out and you get butt-naked. By the time I got out the door that she was laying right down the side of the car. By the door, when I walked out on my side, the trash bins, two trash vans were sitting right behind me. And I'm like, what are you trying to do to me? Shut up, shut up, shut the fuck up.

And I'm like, oh, Lord, I didn't mess up. She basically Can you translate what I just heard? There was a screwdriver involved in a trash bin. I was not following that. It was a little hard. Yeah, okay. Basically, he started threatening her with a screwdriver and a gun and said...

The gun is a little bit more persuasive than a screwdriver. He said, when I get out of this car, I'm coming around. You better be butt naked. Okay. And he comes around. He opens up the door and on the ground, he laid a sheet on the ground right next to the car. Okay. And the car was parked right next to a bunch of dumpsters.

this guy's romantic hopeless romantic this man was gonna fucker yeah killer and just roll her in the sheet and throw her in a fucking dumpster so he's getting efficient got it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so

you know what that's actually that's smart a lot of people do something then transport the body in order to get rid of them this guy's like why don't they just bring the person while they're still alive to where I want them to be when they're dead I would say anyone who gets efficient at murder is a creep would you agree with that Carl

probably a little creepy all right so uh let's Find a little bit more information about what happened that night. Oh, Watts. And I look at it and I go back there and look and I look at that trash bins back there and look down on the ground and just think about what could have happened to me that night, you know? That's what they probably would have found blood of me dead at.

Right behind the welfare office. The dumpsters where he was a taker was right behind the welfare office, not the place where he really cared about anyone's welfare. I just thought I'd point that out. We don't know how many people he abducted. and how many people got away. We know how many dead people there were that they were able to connect. But in 1988, a 30-year-old girl, same situation, walking home, gets stopped by him.

It's a yellow pinto. He got her in the car, pulled out a handgun. And instead of raping her, he shot the woman in the chest three times, Carl. Okay. And then threw her out of the car, dumped her off. She got away. She was the first person to actually know this was him. She had the 25 caliber bullets inside of her.

and got to a hospital and gave a sketch to the police. Now, this was 1988. He got the nickname the Grim Sleeper because in 1988, all of his murders stopped until 2002. Oh, weird. Yeah, they called him the sleeper. We're going to talk about that in just a second. But in 2002, the same MO started popping up all over again in L.A.

15-year-old body was found. Another 35-year-old body was found. Another 25-year-old body was found All shot with 25 caliber handguns Why did he shoot the one woman before he raped her? What was the boy? Was she being up and he? What was the deal?

Actually, yes, Carl. That's what his complaint was. All right. That was what his complaint was. He was very not pleased with her. That's too much sass, lady. Listen, I want to make this rape go smooth as possible. I'm going to need some cooperation around here.

Right. Who started you on? Oh, no. So basically, he offered her ride and she said no, and he kind of badgered her until she said fine, which is really not a good move. Right. Ladies. Just a reminder, don't get into cars with strange guys, but he was like, come on, come on, come on.

And then when he pulled out the gun, she was like, why are you doing that? He says, because I was disrespectful by you. To say no to a free ride. Yeah. Ladies, come on. But now they were finding DNA on these people. They were finding more bodies. Well, that they had a sketch artist.

They did. But, I mean, we're talking 14 years later. This guy's out collecting garbage. All over town. All over time. He's out all the time. No one saw it. Right.

No one saw this guy? No. So he got away with it. 14 years. All of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, this starts happening. So guess what happened in the last 14 years? DNA became more of a thing. It put in the DNA into their new database for the state of California.

And Christopher Franklin, Lonnie Franklin Jr.'s son came up as a familial mass. match from a felony weapons and drug charge in 2008. So the cops were like, okay, we found a match. This guy's got to be related, but this guy's too young to have done it. Who could it be? Oh, look, the dad kind of looks like the guy in the sketch. So Carl, the cops staked out Lonnie Ford or Lonnie Franklin. They started following him around.

And he went to a birthday party at a downtown restaurant. A cop dressed up like a bus boy and went in and watched him eat. and then went and took his plate with his fork and a half-eaten piece of pizza and they used that DNA and bingo Is that legal? Apparently.

They're legally allowed to trick you to giving the warrant and it's disposed of. It's garbage. Wow. But the cop dressed up like a bellboy. Yeah. Or a bus boy. He didn't carry his bags in.

Franklin was arrested on July 7, 2010. And during the search of his home, this is the interesting part, Carl. We know about 10 murders. Like I told you about 10 people that were kind of tied to him. Those were the 10 murders he was convicted of. But during the search of his home, detectives found hundreds of photos of unidentified women. Many of them were nude, some beaten and bleeding.

Some appeared unconscious or dead. Photos of the grim sleepers, 10 known victims were included in this. They don't know who the other people were. There were hundreds of them. That is not a Kodak moment. No. Photography in that time, either it's a Polaroid or you actually have to get a processed. Yeah. So what was he doing? He had his own place to do it at his house. Oh, so okay. So

he had the dark room and everything. So this is what happened in Germany. They were taking photos of shit in Germany. Why is he a photographer on this shit? This is so, it's a good thing this was before Facebook. Yeah. This guy would have out of himself a lot earlier. His Instagram account would have had a problem. Right. He would have done fine on TikTok, I hear. Why do people take photos of their crimes? I feel like I'd be such a better criminal than these assholes. Well, the police asked him a question. The police were asked a question by a reporter about this 14 year period of him being asleep

after they found all of these photos of these women. Okay. And this is what the police had to say. Is your working theory that this grim sleeper as he's known, who was quiet it seems for 14 years, may not have been quiet for those years? I don't believe for a minute he was quiet. What's a shitty nickname then, isn't it? The grim

sleeper is a shitty nickname. It doesn't make any sense at all. They should just call him the murder and garbage bum. Yeah. He should just be garbage man. He really should just be called garbage. That's what a garbage. He's a garbage man. He's not fit to have the title sanitation worker, Carl.

I don't use the word garbage, but if I did, I might call him a garbage man, yes. He looks just like Teddy Long. Okay. Lonnie Franklin Jr. He looks just like if it's hysterical. No one is relating to this. Just because you are, just because you're no selling it. In the comments.

You know who's going to love it? Podcast Hitman is going to laugh his ass off. Podcast Hitman will love it, I'm sure. Podcast Hitman is going to love it. That's all. That's my creep. That's your creep for this week. Marnie Franklin murdered a whole shitload of women. All right.

Through them and dumpsters. Very good. Raped them too. So it's my turn for my garbage man. This is a guy that everyone knows very well, notorious garbage man. Are you trying to say Tony Soprano? Tony Soprano. It's my garbage man this week.

No, I'm just kidding. Actually, my... You can maybe cue your audio next time, asshole? I know. Sorry. I pulled that, after you pulled the other theme song there, I decided to just find it on YouTube, but I didn't know there was such a long intro going to that. My bad.

My bed. My creep this week is a guy known as Joel Guy Jr. And what? Joe Guy? Joel. Joel. Joel Guy Jr. I don't like that name.

That's like the name that you see in the papers. Joel Guy Jr. arrested. Yeah. Joel guy made a trip up to Knoxville, Tennessee. to visit with his folks over Thanksgiving back in 2016. And all of a sudden, his folks, after the holiday, didn't go back to work. And people were concerned. And they were wondering what happened to his folks.

So they sent the police over just to check in on and make sure everything was okay. Well, it's the holidays. I assume they were all at home together. Yep, you would think so. Yeah. Well, the deputies could have never imagined what they would walk into with something out of a horror movie, Ted. both Joel Sr. and Lisa were brutally murdered and dismembered. Oh, okay.

It's easier to wrap him in a sheet and throw him in a dumpster. Well, this is why he is my garbage man. What he decided to do was take the bodies dismember them and then put them into garbage containers full of bleach and other chemicals that would deteriorate the bodies, some type of housemade acid, I guess. So this guy really wasn't a garbage man. He was more of a chemist, Carl. Well, I mean, the garbage cans were a key part of this, but there's even more to it than that. The crime scene is about as horrific, as Chandley said, like a horror movie. You have body parts in pieces of Tupperware around the house.

You have mom's head apparently boiling in a pot on the stove. They came into the house to find, and there's video of this, you can find that, a giant pot on the stove with his mom's head in it. He was trying to boil it down to nothing. He was just like, hey guys, come in here and put your hand to this thing of spaghetti. It's great. Yeah, this was after Halloween. Oh, God. It does feel like brains.

Wow. Oh, that's really bad. So he boiled his mother's head. Yes. Put their limbs, body parts inside of Tupperware, and basically was trying to melt them into a human goop. Yeah, they, exactly. They found Joel Sr.'s hands in the exercise room. He had body parts thrown all around.

the house when they came up there he never learned to put his toys away no he definitely did not so guy senior was stabbed at least 42 times and his wife at least 31 times in the chest and back so he really wanted to make sure he took care of the job when he did this now he wanted to defend himself this is a trial that just took place he was just sentenced he wanted to defend himself He's filed several handwritten motions, most recently a motion to represent himself. Also wanting to override the prosecution and have a judge consider the death penalty if he is convicted in this trial. All those motions so far, though, and I'm successful. So they didn't let him do that.

Well, I like him. I like the spirit. They assign the attorney. If you're going to do anything, you know, go all the way for it. Defend yourself, son. Yeah. I like it. According to the article here, I guess he probably could have done his good job without him.

having an attorney assigned to him. During Guy Jr.'s four-day trial, the defense presented no evidence and did not call him to the witness stand to testify. Basically, the guy goes, listen, he was in a good mood that weekend. There's no way he was going to murder his parents. Why would he even want to do that? Come on. The holidays are coming up.

The problem is the prosecution called a string of witnesses and presented an extremely graphic evidence against the defendant, including photos of Guy Senior and Lisa's partially dissolved tors floating in what has been described as. as a diabolical stew of human remains. The best part about this, you're ready for the kicker? The best part is... The kicker wasn't the mom's head on the stove? That one was pretty good.

Okay. The best part was, you want to know what the motive is. Why would this guy want to murder his parents? He's a 29-year-old guy. His parents are in their early 60s. And he decided to write down notes about everything that he was going to do and why. this is someone reading from his notes in the court trial, in court. He's not alive to claim her half of the insurance money, all mine, $500,000.

He basically wrote down all of the assets that his parents had and wrote down if the father is dead and the mother can't be found, then he would receive the assets. He wrote all of his doubt showing everyone what his motivation was, but that wasn't even the best. He's definitely a lawyer, this kid. He's a lawyer, all right. That wasn't even the best thing that he did. He wrote down a shopping list. Milk. Before he murdered them.

I'm going to read it to you right now. I'll send this. This is so funny. Get killing knives dash quiet dash multiple. This is a bullet point list. Get sledgehammer. He did it right quantity too. He did it right.

Quantity too. Multiple. Get sledgehammer dash crush bones. Bring blender and food grinder dash grind meat. get bleach dash denature proteins, get plastic bin for denaturation process. He's got it all figured out. And then he says, does not matter where they're killed, just get rid of bloody spots to prevent evidence of the time of death, not the mattress or couches.

This is the notes he's writing down for himself. Did he think he was going to forget that? Why are you writing this down? Yeah, I don't know why anyone would think this would think this was premeditated. I know. Get rid of bodies inside their house because. The DNA is already there. He's got it all figured out.

Like, what is he going to say? Like, how would he even defend himself with these notes laying around? Is he, is he thinking he's OJ? If I were going to kill that and make them into soup. Right. This is what I would do. Yeah, no, this was not a difficult trial. So he's been sentenced to life.

And I don't think he'll be seeing the light of day ever again, which is good, because he is a creep. Yeah, I would say so. Well, Carl, that was, uh, whew, that was fucking something, that one. It was something. All right. Well, I guess, ladies and gentlemen, it is up to you now. If you would like to vote this week as to who had presented the creepiest person,

the creepiest garbage man is obviously me because my person actually was a garbage man. But Joel Guy Jr. did use garbage bins to get rid of his parents. So he was also a garbage man. No. Yep. That's not how that works. Yep. That is how it works.

Vote for Carl. Folks, I think you just learned. The creepoff.com. Folks, I think you just learned how much work Carl puts into this. So the creepoff.com for your votes and stay into it for that. Carl, would you like to hear some voicemails? Oh, yeah. Did we get some voice mails this week?

We did. This one, I got to be honest with you, ladies and gentlemen, the only reason I'm playing this is because it's 43 seconds long, and it partially made me laugh. Hey, Rand, it's John Melendezza from the Howard's Tharns, y'all. I got a I got a proper I got an idea for this you stop doing business

with Carla and I'll do comedy show I fuck I got a cockcrow Kill the cockroach cat Oh fuck where's my last Cozley Oh fuck

I got a new bit I got a new bit then Alright here's what I do I paint my belly orange And I show the crowd And I'm like Hey my belly style Trump

because he's an idiot thank you all bye it's a good bet yeah it's a good bet that's the only thing to me laugh at that I was just like wow that's a really terrible limitation all right that's pretty good

all right yeah we'll take it and this one came from we have a lady listener I don't know what she said here it just didn't come out too well but see if you could help me translate this hi baby and Carl well thank you so much

my voice now last week. I just want to say that I'm very disappointed for this thing that has some very, very popular cases, but I think I'm going to just go for me anyway because it goes suck. Signing out,

Carl's Left Nutt. Ha, ha, ha, ha. She'd Carl's Left Nutt at the end? I think that's her screen in Carl's Lept Nutt. All right. Personally, you'd rather be the right one. all right fair enough so she was upset because we did well-known cases yeah is that what it was that's what i think it was i can't figure out what people want i really don't know idea uh and here

is a suggestion wheel idea the other guy gets to choose your topic for the next week and you have to do your best to try to make him sound as creepy as possible because you'll probably choose someone who's not creepy at all viny winnie people's champ huh is that kev bat i don't know I don't like that sign off. I like that sign off quite a bit. But I don't know if I like that suggestion just simply because I really would rather have you trying. It's not like a freebie. Like I don't want to give away points, but maybe it could be interesting where the loser has to pick the creep for the other person the week before.

What do you think of that idea, Carl? It's weird because. Convaluted maybe? Well, you just like pick Mr. Rogers or something. And then the person would be like, yeah, I couldn't find anything. I think that'd be a really boring episode if we just try to sabotage each other. We're not even very good at this. I don't need you sabotaging me on top of it.

Yeah. It doesn't help me at all. Same. Vice versa. Okay. I vote no. But I like the creativity, though. Keep the suggestions coming because I do want to replace some of the things around that wheel of consequences.

So I'd love to hear more ideas so that we can try to figure out what the best ones are. I also really liked the Vinny Winnie part. Are you ready for the scum parade, Carl? Yeah, I'm ready for the scum parade. Let's do it, buddy. The scum parade, these are my peeps, the scum parade is nothing for creeps. The scum parade, I'm paroland in each show.

We're going to start this week's scum parade in Utah. April shirtlift, 37, has been charged with multiple counts of child abuse, aggravated assault, and a threat of violence. Police recalled on Friday after it was reported that it, taser had been used on a child in a church parking lot. The boy told police that he and a friend were riding scooters in the parking lot and noticed a woman possibly filming them while she sat in her car. Feeling uncomfortable, the boys left the lot.

When they returned and continued to ride their scooters, the woman showed the boys her taser and yelled, I'm going to fucking tase you. Yeah. As the boys began to try to run away, the victim said the woman drove towards him at a high rate of speed before getting out of the car and chasing him. She eventually caught up to the boy allegedly, placed the taser on his chest, and activated it for what the victim said was about four seconds. The woman drove away as the boy laid there screaming and crying.

Shirtleaf later admitted to police that the vehicle seen on the video surveillance was hers, but that she did not own a taser and denied threatening the boys. The police as she described her personality as electric. They said she really lit up a room. However, she later said that she did own a taser, but that she didn't use it. Upon inspection of Shirtless vehicle, police found the taser, and investigations showed it matched the burn marks on the board. What would be the chances that that one didn't match the bird marks?

Oh, it actually is a different taser. By the way, this story, there's something missing here. I don't know. Those boys must have done something to that lady. They did something. This doesn't make any sense. This woman's just looking to tase nine-year-olds. She's a 37-year-old.

Yeah, she looks like she's about 67. She looks like stuttering John 37. She looks terrible. It might have been John. It might have been like a my cousin of any situation where another person who drove a very similar car was also in the lot. For sure. It was John.

It was actually Lenny Dykstra. Letty Dykstra tased his children. Lenny Dykstra, tased a boy in the church parking lot. That story is nonsense, though, right? There's no way, there's something missing there. Yeah, we don't know. But all we know is that a kid ended up getting tased and this woman went to jail. Yeah, which is, you know, one of the rare times we're having some fun on this show.

Yeah, I'm with it. I'm all about it. I feel like you should be allowed to tase a strange child, like three, get three a year. Yeah. like you should have a punch card when the police show I'll be like here I got two left so you could do two one year four the next right I don't know if it goes over I think it should okay I'm voting for you November 3rd hey everybody don't forget to vote November 3rd oh god dude everywhere I fucking go with the vote yes I know we need to vote I get it no one's

reminding me to vote all right to be registered I plumb for gods god Jesus Christ did you know this is the most important election we've ever had Vinny? Every fucking four years. Every fucking app I've used. I fucking tried to order DoorDash and there was fucking Oh, God. All I wanted was a pizza.

Yeah, well, like a pizza and you also wanted those breadsticks. You also wanted some chicken fingers. But yeah, no, I know what you mean. And dipping sauces. Diffing sauce. Sydney Deal 27. This story fucking blew my mind. I tried to tell my wife this story and she refused to hear it.

She got so upset. Okay. Las Vegas. Yeah. Sydney Deal 27 left his one-year-old daughter, Sia Deal, in a hot car Monday afternoon with the keys inside. Deal's brother told police, he was confused by a call that he got from his brother saying, hey, I locked her in the car, I need some help. The AC's running, but I need you to get here. When the brother showed up, he immediately wrapped his shirt around his hand and offered to punch out the window.

Right. That's what you do. Yeah. I mean, that's what the dad should have done. Right. Or the dad should have called 911 instead of calling his stupid brother. Well, also, I think he's lying about the AC running. Mm-hmm.

But we're going to get there. Sidney, the father, stopped him and said he wanted to wait for a tow truck because, quote, I don't want to damage my car. Right. I just bought this car, and I don't have the money to repair a window. Right. During the same time, he had his girlfriend on the phone calling the insurance company to see how much it would cost to get a locksmith to come and open up up the door to get the one-year-old out. And you know what? He told the girlfriend to do that she told the cops.

Hang up on. hang up on them. They want too much money. This guy. So he's fucking shopping around to find the cheapest price to get into the car. And then finally they flagged down the police. The police show up and they go to break the window. Sydney stops them

and says, my girl's trying to call locksmith. So now he's holding up the cops from breaking the window. This motherfucker, this must have been the nicest Hyundai-A-Lontra on the fucking planet. Whatever car this asshole has. The cops eventually just said, dude, get the fuck out of the way. We're breaking the window. We're going to save this kid. when the toddler was pulled from the car

about an hour later her body was already in rigamortis. So he would have saved his daughter's life, but he didn't have a coupon. It's basically what this story is. Do they have a coupon for child saving? This guy is a bargain hunter to the very end. I will change insurance companies.

You want to tell me it's $89 to get a locksmith over here? That's ridiculous. Why do I pay a premium? I find this whole situation to be absolutely fucked up. I could not find anywhere what type of car it was. But I am fascinated to know what car window was worth more than this guy's daughter's life. He also called his mom at one point. This guy's making phone calls to everyone in his family.

Apparently he's not really tight with his one-year-old daughter, though. I guess that relationship isn't all that tight at this point. Yeah, Carl. It's just really expensive to replace a window. It's not. It's not excited to replace a window. Yeah, well, I mean, compared to the cost of college, you're right. Right.

we just saved himself a ton of money then well not really because he's being held on a $20,000 bond uh autopsy is pending uh they described the car as a high heat environment and he how do the cops not bust through that window before how do they not use his fucking head to do it that's what i don't understand not bust through that before the daughter dies were they just standing there going all right i guess we'll wait for a locks man dude i mean if i was this guy would be like she's sleeping really still like don't wake her up fucking asshole brutal now you're a merry guy i'm a married guy did this uh next story terrify you as well no not at all really dude this next story i'll explain it you go through it okay

a pennsylvania man has been accused of trying to kill his wife by setting a trip wire on the stairs of the ferry of their home uh william dank strutters he's one of yours he's a german uh is now facing charges of attempted homicide aggravated assault and simple assault the reckless endangerment. So basically the wife went downstairs to go get her Jimmy Dean's sausage bowl from the freezer of the basement. And this motherfucker took two little eye hooks,

attach them to the sides of the stairs, and put a thin trip wire at the top of the stairs. And the stairs are described as pretty like treacherous and you're going to fall right on to fucking cement. And if the tripware hadn't worked, he was going to get his buddy to go down to the floor is behind her and then just push her over him. What she didn't realize is that if that didn't work,

he had hung an anvil over her seat at the table. There was a piano that was going to drop as soon as you left the house. So what he was going to do is he was going to put these skates on her feet and strap a rocket to her back. This fucking walk. I mean, he booby trapped the house. So I guess his plan must have been. She goes downstairs to get her Jimmy Died breakfast bowl, hits the tripwire, goes down the stairs. He comes home from work, takes out the eye hook, takes out.

the eye hook takes out the tripwire and just tells everybody she fell. That's fucking terrifying. Well, that's the funny thing to me is that they said we're trying to figure out a possible motivation for this. I don't know, marriage for 30 years? You've been married for 27 years. What's the possible motivation? I don't know. Nagging?

Could it be nagging? Potentially? Her sausage bowl breath, baby? Jesus Christ. I mean, when you're married to someone for 27 years, you don't need a motivation to want to kill them. We get it. Also, did you notice that he was charged with simple, a Yeah. Like, are they insulting this guy's at work?

Yeah, way to go. Dub, dumb. Yeah. This was not well thought out. Like, okay, well, geez, just charge me. I don't need to hear about your opinion on the matter. Simple bill over here. What was interesting was she hit it and she didn't fall over. She, like, caught herself. Yeah. She looked at it was like, huh, this is really weird. And she started calling people in her family. Like, what do you think this is about? What do you think this means, Cheryl? Like, she's on the phone with people going, what do you think? I think you should maybe call the police. Don't she at first think, like, the cat put it there or something? out the cat and kicked up the carpet and she tripped over the carpet. Then she's like, oh, look, someone used a drill and tied

this. Oh, look at these little knots. Maybe it's not my cat trying to murder me since this is an eluded to him's cartoon and there's no way they could have done this. Well, we don't have any kids and it's just me and Bill. Jesus. Now, authorities believe they had enough evidence to charge William. He came home and the cops

were there and he was just like, I don't want to talk about it. When they asked him. He came in and he's like, did she fall down the stairs? No, she's right here. Shit. Hey, hey, hey, where's it? Did you find my wife in the basement? No, she's standing right here in the kitchen.

Fuck! Hey, where's the medical examiner at? I got some papers I need to decide. Hey, how are you guys doing? I stopped by the liquor store the way home. Oh, man. He pulled up to the seat after returning home. Basically, the cop said he didn't want to talk to us, which is his right?

They believe they had enough evidence to charge him, and they took him into custody. So he's in custody right now on attempted murder. I love that story. I do, too. it's funny. It's funny because I don't know how much this guy thought about this but let's say that it had worked and she had tripped and fallen on her face going down into the basement

there's a real good chance she doesn't die that's not going to necessarily kill somebody and now he's going to deal with this it's like well I was annoyed with my wife and now she's a paraplegic it's even worse oh god the backfire that could have happened you're actually right so

plus trying to get a fucking hand job after you try to murder your wife it's going to be a lot convincing it's way easier you just flop her dead arm down and just slap your dick in it just do what you got to do and she just sit there going no stop it fair enough stop it her arms just lay in there you bring up a lot of good points bitty i agree with what you said never thought this through now our final and our final creep of the scum parade this week we're going to talk about some law enforcement members of law enforcement caro yeah did you find this as offensive as i did this is the best one and a misdemeanor criminal information

report filed yesterday. Two former Oklahoma County detention officers and their supervisor are each charged with conspiracy and multiple counts of cruelty to an inmate. Court records say former jailers Christian Miles, Gregory Butler, and Christopher Henderson shot. Now, Henderson shot is the lieutenant. He's 50 years old. Christian Miles and Gregory Butler are both 21-year-old knuckleheads that are working in the jail. They said that they abused four male inmates by handcuffing them to a wall in a standing position for extended periods of time while at the same time playing the song Baby Shark loudly.

They play this for two hours straight. There's no other furniture in the room, nothing else going on. Handcuffed to the wall. Handcuffed to the wall. Forced to listen to this on a loop. I can't even finish reading the Star workout. I don't know what. It's not that bad, is it?

Yes, it really is. I think I'd have some fun with that. You know what would have been torture? I'm putting it in the loop for the music before the live stream now. Perfect. No, you know it would be torture. If you lock them up and put this on. Don't tell my heart.

My egg break and heart, I just don't think you'd understand. Yeah, Baby Shark's way more fun. Do you do different voices? Iggy Bricky Heart is the second worst thing Billy Ray Cyrus ever created. Yeah. What's that other sister's name? Not Miley, the other one. She's the problem.

So investigators charge of defendants, they said that they would take them into the attorney visitation room. They removed the furniture, handcuffed them behind his back, secured to the wall. They were forced to stand, play the music on a continuous loop from a laptop. And none of the inmates appeared to be combative. They just all stood there and took it. I mean, I did 12 hours of listening to fucking Seamus and shit. These guys can handle Baby Shark. That's what I was thinking.

It's not that bad. And I was also wondering, so Baby Shark, I guess. guess could get a little bit annoying after an hour or two, but what's the song that wouldn't make this torture? Is there a certain song that these guys would be let off the hook for? I don't know. I don't know. I would do anything for love by meatloaf, might be. Right. That's a fun song. It's got a lot of parts to it. Yeah, that you could kind of get into, try to memorize the words. Something with a lot of words. Yeah. Maybe like end of the world as we know it where you could sit there and try to figure it out. That's a good one. Yeah. We didn't start the fire. No, that one's

terrible. I don't want to kill me. But like it's the end of the world as we know where you're trying to figure out the lyrics. I think that would be good because to keep your brain active. What you don't want is a baby shark. Right. Or stand if you're talking about R.E. I'm still. Yes, we don't want stand. We don't want shiny happy people. Shiny happy people would be worse than baby shark. You think so? I for sure. Ask anybody. That's what I don't understand about this. And maybe you can explain it to me. I think it's hilarious. I think it's really funny. These guys did this. They were trying to teach these guys a lesson. I guess.

that some of the inmates were being a little rowdy. They wanted to teach him a lesson. So they would bring him down to this room, play Baby Shark. But is there a length of time, or is there a certain song where this is acceptable? Like, I can't figure out what makes this cruel and unusual. You really can't figure out why this is cruel unusual? Honestly, I don't know what is the part. Is it Baby Shark?

Is Baby Shark actually the problem? Is that the reason why they got fired? Shackling them to a wall and leaving them there is probably a problem too. All right. The Baby Shark part is just kind of the common. what if they waterboarding them and played baby shark what would be the worst part about it you think the CIA doesn't do that already you don't think that shit's happening right now i think they play saint anger fucking shitty metallic that's torturous okay well i don't have an answer to that carl i don't know but if you do have an answer tweet at us at creepoff pod leave us a voicemail 585 371808 and of course you can email us at the creepoff pot at gmail dot com

and most importantly do not forget to vote this week carl did you have a nice time Yeah, I had a great time. I forgot to go to the creepoff.com and vote for Carl. I'm going to try to start my comeback here. Well, let's talk about what you should be trying to start, and that should be your cover album. Oh, yeah, Nick Bate cover album. Yeah, give us an update.

All right, the update is I've talked to members of my band who are willing to record this with me. So there'll be some things I do solo. There'll be some things I do with the Gingles Department, some things I do with the isotopes. Do you have any idea how many tracks you will have for this yet? No, I don't. I want quality over quantity.

I understand. This is my goal. I want to have a variety of different musical styles. Have we thought of a name for the album yet? No, I am not. Do you have an idea for me? Baton by Carl. All right.

How about the Nick Baton switch? The old, I like Baton. All right. Can't just yes and me, motherfucker? Yes, and. All right. And it's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice.

We'll see you next week. Gagia! Hala! Ha ha ha! It's the cream off. Well, my bet!