The Creep Off - Creeps' N Roses #5 Weaponized Girl Power

Episode Date: April 16, 2021

This is it, the 5th and official last episode of Creeps' N Roses. Enjoy

I'm going to be honest, I don't remember really anything from these, and I tried to watch a recap, and you've just made me hate The Bachelor by making me do this podcast and watch this couple times. You know what that means. It means I won. Welcome to Creeps and Roses with Vinny and P.J. We're talking about The Bachelor because Vinny needs to pay. Lots of bitchy girls who want to see that dick. We didn't want to do this podcast, but Carrow the Supervisor. The Bachelor

Let's discuss the Bachelor With PJ and with We've got roses We've got creams Hey everybody Welcome to Creeps and Roses The Only Show

About Creeps and The Bachelor I'm PJ We have Brian McBride Joining us again Hey Brian How's it going Now I want to make this very clear before you say a word

before a word comes out of your mouth I want to make this very clear I had to spin the wheel I had to do five fucking episodes of the bachelor he's a quitter and here we are at episode number five

this is it when I stop recording this my consequence is complete yeah I mean nobody believes you and I hope that no one ever lets you this down people listening just berate Vinny anytime he complains about any like thing

that Carl does for the consequences Oh, what would be new? Oh, boo-hoo. Carl's not wearing his crocs again. Shut up, Vinny. You didn't even do five episodes. Wham, my daddy, my daddy, wang! I have done five episodes.

I only had to do 10-minute episodes and everything that we've released as an episode. And when I say things, that means episodes. I want to point that out. I don't know. I don't know. It sounds like you'd realize your mess up halfway through that and then change your mind. I feel like I'm a member of the cast, and I wasn't on the first episode.

So does that really cool? count? That's true. That's true, Vinny. Oh, he's silent because he knows we got it. I'm taking a sip of coffee and here's my response to that. My response to that is simple. Today, we are going to cover the from where we left off to the end of season 25 of The Bachelor. That's today. That's this episode and we're done. Yeah, so it's been a pretty long week, I guess, since we released the last one. Like, because we were doing these weekly, right? Yeah, it's been a week.

Yeah, so what's happened? Like, I forget exactly where we left off. Well, let's hop into it, shall we? We left off with a confrontation brewing. Wait, on The Bachelor, two of the women are fighting? Yes. Oh, that's the episode. Okay.

Well, Anna and Victoria, the people who are cast as like the two main villains of the house were both booted off at the beginning of last episode, episode five. So, at the beginning of episode six, the end of episode five, They teased a big conflict between MJ, or as I like to call her, Jungle Boy, and Jacinia, a very attractive contestant who I guess this is her five minutes of fame on the show. That's right. I forgot that you call Matt James Jungle Boy. I don't call Matt James Jungle Boy. I call MJ Jungle Boy. What's next? You're going to start making monkey noises to do an impression of Matt James? No, I would never do that. I would never make monkey noises about any human beings.

like in the Black Panther that was hilarious remember that let's talk about Marvel movies I could wasn't that super racist though I mean this is completely off topic already it was just culture and Wakanda and great I don't know I hate everyone

right now I'm already spinning out of control and there's so much information in front of me let's just pick up where we were please we got to finish talking about the Black Panther I want to know what they're going to do with Chadwick Postman what are they going to do with them well Whatever they're going to do with them, they already did it.

He's been dead for almost a year. Well, who's going to replace him? Who's going to make the monkey noises now? Is it Matt James? Who did they put Matt James in to replace him as the Black Panther? That's true, and he already thinks he makes monkey noises. He's perfect. Now, why do you think Black Panther would make monkey noises?

Did you see Black Panther? There was literally a group of Black people that all went, oh, who, like we're being gorillas. Yeah, but that wasn't the Black Panther. I'm not making that up. That happened in Black Panther. Okay. I'll concede that that happened in Black Panther. If you just shut the fuck up. No.

You could just shut up. Please. I'm begging you. Okay. I'm sending you the Black Panther link. Because I'm not the racist one. I mean, you kind of are because you said Matt James does it. So, where we left off last week was there was about to be a date card delivered. We know that Jacinia had made some comments about M. to Matt and the date card is coming in and instead of them just getting the traditional date card this is what they get mj and jessinia i need to know the truth that's right they are summoned

to a two-on-one date with matt james and it's not the fun kind of one it's more of like when you and somebody you got into a fight within school had to go to the principal's office it's a not really a date. It's more of like along the lines of a of a scolding. You know what? Sometimes it starts that way. I've seen videos. Okay. Okay. Like you're you get mad at your step sister. Yeah. And then you have to go to your stepmom. Mm-hmm. It ain't one of those. Oh. Okay. So Matt calls the both and says, hey, listen, I'm going to talk to both of you separately. And once again, Jacinia tattles on

MJ. I think I'm right. I guess he'll find out the truth tonight. Oh, fuck, I fucked this up. Okay, here we go. Acting like she didn't know that there was any kind of toxicity in the house or bullying or division when she and Victoria were on the forefront of that. Anyone listening? Like, if you're like, what does this have to do with the creep off? Like, the thing that ties this and the creep off together is Vinnie fucking up the technical stuff.

Oh, played the wrong clip. Oh, this isn't working. I darned my butterfingers. Now listen. I want to talk about this. They go to have this date. She says that MJ was one of the main sources of strife and conflict in that house. Would you agree with that?

I mean, I can't say she was the best, but I don't think she was the worst. Anna FartFace and Victoria were clearly the worst, and they're gone. Victoria was well beyond everybody else. Yes. Followed by the FartFace Girl and then everybody. Like, it's so, like, far below now. Yeah. Yeah, she was kind of like the passenger and the.

car and now like she's the one driving the car like the other girls were driving it she was just long for the ride now she's the one in control someone has to grab the fucking wheel yeah there must always be a stark in winterfell that's right there must always be a bitch on the bachelor so mj when she gets alone with matt she obviously just denies all of this and plays like i don't know what she's talking about that says to them i'm going to just go think about all this and that leaves those two alone in the room just staring at each other well matt walks out. And here is this priceless moment. You know what? You are

literally, this is so petty. You need to literally check yourself right now. Now at that point, I have to believe that somewhere, Victoria is practicing voodoo on the body of MJ and is somehow channeling herself

into the body of MJ with the fucking literally's. You need to literally check yourself right now. Like, what does that mean? Like, she needs to, like, feel herself up. Make sure you don't have breast cancer right now. See, it is one of those videos.

I do it. Would you like me to do it for you? Right. So, Matt comes back in, and, uh, he makes a decision. And I saw it a mile away because why keep the show interesting? I'm Jack. I can't give you this, Rose. Boo!

Wait, why did he have a rose in that confrontation? Because there are no rules in this game. That is why. The rules of this game are whatever the producers say they are and whatever fucking minute that they need something to happen. That's what I've learned about this show. They just do whatever they need to make a story. So it's pro wrestling.

No, this is terrible. Yeah, it's more interesting than wrestling. Do you know how much better this would be if they were doing like Hurricane Rodas on each other? Yeah. yeah how much i would love to see fucking victoria walk in it just starts stunning people that would be great she basically did she did she did she did stud people yes yeah she stud everyone on her way out that was an epic meltout okay mj's gone we're gonna fast forward

a little bit later in the episode and another notable our girl katie dildo girl remember her mcbride oh yes yes dildo girl gets goes on an alone date with matt and she tells him that she could fall in love with him the same spiel that all these women give this fucking guy she said could she could see herself falling what does that even mean it's in the realm of possibility is there's a chance to say that about anybody at any time i don't know what this means katy did not get the reaction from that that i think she was hoping for

because she says this to him as he's holding a rose in his hand And this is the first time where I see Matt James be a little savage. My relationship with some of the other women in the house has progressed further along than ours has up into this point. I can't give you this rose tonight. Yeah, you should watch your phrasing when talking about black people when using the word savage moving on. Now Katie's the bachelorette. Is she going to be the bachelorette? Yeah, she wins the bachelor.

The person who gets to be the bachelorette's the winner. So she won. You think she's really going to be the Bachelorette? I think she's announced to be the Bachelorette, unless something changed. Is she going to be handing out dildos instead of roses? She just might, and this one is for you. No, I feel like what's... The stinky one goes to.

Here's... Now, everybody, on the count of three, smell your dildo. And if your dildo smells, you step forward and you're going through the next round. Yes. If your smells like hand sanitizer, you're going home. now that's so vile now listen this katie girl what i liked about her is she did in a way she was the face in the house she stood up for a little bit of common sense at points and it was a shame uh well she wins she wins in the long run congratulations katie that's all i can really say about that she's gone now mcbride do you remember how i said earlier that this show there's no rhyme or fucking reason to how they do it i do remember you saying that yeah like a minute and a half ago. Right.

There's this girl named Heather Martin. Okay. Remember this, Peach? No, not at all. Yeah. Okay. This is the best part of the whole season. Do you think so?

I mean, it made me laugh. It was, if you like awkward encounters, this is amazing. Oh, kids, strap in. Well, they should be comfortable around each other, right? They've been here for how many weeks? Well, not, not Heather Martin. She hasn't. Well, all this new girl versus OG stuff started.

a former contestant from Cold and Underwood season, and don't worry, we got plenty discuss about old Colt later. This lady, Heather Martin, who was friends with, I think it was Hannah Brown, a former bachelorette. Yeah, the most recent bachelorette. Oh, no, two bachelorets go. Okay. Well, this girl, Hannah, said to Heather, because she knows Matt, that, boy, you two would

be a great couple. So, Heather, who was already on the show, found out where it was being filmed, flew across the country. At least this is what they want us to believe I don't know what the story is here I think it's true I think it actually did happen I think that she actually caught the producers of the show off guard

She shows up McBride she flies halfway across the country Okay shows up to But fuck Pennsylvania And the reasonable thing would be for them to call the police And not let her in right Well she shows up at the gate and security's like What do you hear for it? She's like well I'm Heather Martin

I'm here to be on the show I just want to meet Matt James Back up She shows up you think like Oh, she's going to go on TV. She's going to get a cool car. She shows up in a shitty minivan. That's true.

She rented a minivan. A minivan to go on The Bachelor on TV. I could tell that the producers immediately love this. They say, well, we don't know what we're going to do. We're going to have to talk to Matt. So they throw this girl into quarantine for like two weeks before she makes her debut. And during this time, they start showing clips of this woman in the hotel room. It's only six weeks long.

So two weeks. That's a long time. like in bachelor time two weeks is a lifetime that's cheating that's like a bye week right she could get the number one seed what'd she do and absolutely that's absolutely correct so she's just this goofball I mean look at this

video she's got a pizza box on her head and she's doing the fucking huckle buckle and the thing falls up she's like oh and she's just filming herself being a weirdo in the in the bedroom at the uh fucking hotel Vinnie be honest did you leap at the screen when you saw her drop that pizza I was not pleased

don't waste it I wrote the producers I don't care for this type of entertainment but if you're going to waste pizza Benny's like looking to book that exact room Hope that like he can get a sniff of the pizza sauce If it's spill on the floor I'm gonna fucking sniff the floor

Like next season's bachelor at contestants Are gonna have to sniff those fucking dildos Billy's like those degenerates He's like at those degenerates at the like Comic-Con stuff Who they sniff the seats where girls were sitting But instead he's like I think that this table had pizza on it and he just goes up

and sniffs it. Pepperoni? Very foppishly. I got to get foppish in there for Kevin Ricotta. So there's Heather. She shows up in the middle. Now here's the thing. She shows up right

in the middle of Matt's one-on-one time with Serena P. She walks in. Nobody has any idea who she is. Except Matt James kind of knows who she is because Hannah has told him this. So Serena P handles this very well,

very eloquently, I must say. Oh, she welcomed her. What the fucking. Who is that? She's from Colton season. She's friends with Hannah Brown. And the producers did her so dirty, the new girl coming in, because they could have let her meet him

any time. They wait until she's actually talking to Matt James. Oh, of course. This was the most unbelievable thing after all of the drama they just had about new girls. It's like The house is on fire. It's about to fall down. And the producers are like, you know what?

We just need to throw one more fucking rock at it. That I'll knock it right down. Heather and Matt talk, but he says he needs to think about this because, you know, it's been a while. He feels like he's really blindsided. But he puts off giving her an answer because I do legitimately think he didn't know what to do. I think he had to, like, give her a pause to go talk to the producers to figure it out. Now, what's wild about this,

bride is this leaves poor blood Heather who's been in a hotel room with no human contact dancing around with pizza boxes on her head alone with all of the girls from this season who are left now in spite of all of these women getting rid of all of these toxic people victory is gone fart face is gone jungle boy is gone right nothing this girl walks into this room like a guy damn hamster tossed in a piranha tank. Okay, like a 12 pack of Corslight tossed into stuttering John's apartment, PJ.

She didn't have a fucking chance. Now, this is a long clip, but boys, we're just going to watch the entire interaction that they played of these girls, the good girls, the nice girls, meeting Heather for the first time. I call this

clip Sharkbait. Hi, guys. Hey, how's it? Good. Good. What's up? It was good. Good. What's your name? And what are you doing here? I'm Heather. Nice to meet you guys. What did you say? I said, what are you doing here? I am here to meet Matt. Oh, you're so late. I know, I'm late. Oh, a little catty. Yeah, I've never met him before. So are you ready to get married to him or be engaged within a couple weeks? Yes, that is ultimately like what I'm here for. What are you want to know? season yeah yeah I was on Colton season okay oh so you missed that one so you tried this one um no like truly like I please leave didn't feel it with Colton and that wasn't

for me and I'm not here to just come in and like ruined everyone's day and like my day's my day's pretty ruined why did you not meet Matt prior to him coming and being the bachelor So I'm friends with Hannah and I knew Matt was like new Hannah but now this girl's playing with her hair nervously you would be a great match fiddled with her bra strap the more I learned about him the more I thought like it could be a potential match and that I wanted to meet him you're just bachelor hopping yeah that's exactly what it is you guys like she's almost twitching do this what are you doing here because I can't I want to hear Matt like I'm not going to be on TV this is it is a lot like I'm going to be on TV this is What's your goal here? I'm not convinced that you're ready for an engagement. Absolutely. I, obviously, Dr. Phil over here.

Do you know Matt at all? You know Matt? Trust me, I would have rather have gone on a date with him without all this. Like, it just Hannah set me up with it. But that wasn't the reality of the situation and I didn't. I'm sorry. I don't really care, honestly, because we literally are freaking out. We have one more week plus a date and then we're going to hometowns.

All of us have very strong feelings from that. Because we have been here for six weeks, and you walking in and interrupting my time when I was having a pretty important conversation, super uncalled for. And I still just do not understand why you're here week six. Like, bitch, what are you doing? It doesn't make anyone uncomfortable. Like, it makes me, like, really sad. They make this girl cry. What I want to do?

Okay, just talk about an interview because I don't want to hear your tears. Okay, I'm sorry, guys. that ladies and gentlemen was the nice girls that were left whoa that is god i wish victoria was there victoria would have chopped that woman's head off it's shit in her neck that is some of like the most interesting tv i've ever seen imagine being so hot your whole life like that chick's like a solid eight out of ten nine out of ten yeah imagine being she's the best looking one there now that katy's gone yeah like imagine

Imagine being that hot and never having anyone say anything rude to you. And then you just walk in this room and everybody's berating you. Like, oh, it was so good. She had no idea how to handle it. She started crying. Like, that was perfect. The producers, uh, hats off to them. I'm going to just let you know what happens here because we got a lot to get to.

But she leaves it tears, goes back to Matt just to have him say to her, hey, listen, um, you're kind of too late. I'm starting to have feelings for the other girls. so I don't think this is going to work out sorry so now this woman is sobbing she's just been rejected and they just like immediately escorted her out she probably for the filming of this was there for an hour where she just got screamed

at by these people dumped by Matt James and she spent two weeks in a fucking hotel room for the pleasure yeah well I mean a luxury hotel room so it's like she was like oh she had to sit in quarantine like she was getting like waited on hand in foot also um it's like this is such a stupid play in the long run for the producers i mean it's getting close to the end but they just gave all those girls who hated each other a common enemy to all root against so in the long run let's see how it plays oh yeah we did see an awesome display of

girl power there didn't we yeah women unite fucking weaponized girl power i'm sure it's kumbaya for the rest of the show oh yeah so let's uh talk about one more notable one more notable departure before we get to the scandals. Remember Abigail, PJ? Barely, yeah, the deaf chick. The deaf girl. We've basically established that where all of the terrible things are going down,

she just sits there and smiles and nods her head because she doesn't know what's happening. Yeah. So, like, this poor girl has been lost through the whole season. She got the first impression rose from Matt, which I guess is a big deal. and he never takes her out on a one-on-one. She's the only girl left at this point who has had no one-on-ones. She's just been there in the background.

She's very pretty, but she finally gets her one-on-one date with Matt. Did you take her to a concert? Did her a poetry reading. Fucking asshole. So they start having a conversation, and she lays it out there for him. She did what Katie kind of did. She laid out her feelings. And here's Abigail, the hearing impaired woman, telling Mad, how she feels.

I can see the possibility of a feature with you. I just want to know, like, can you see that possibility? Now, there's a thing in comedy where the rule is simple. If you're talking to the audience, right, you don't ever ask the audience a question. You don't know how they're going to answer to. okay it's all about like controlling the situation and she asked him I just want to know do you see a future for you and I together well

the answer is don't ask the question if you don't want the real answer would you like to guess what Matt says I will I just want to say it's funny how with the deaf chick everything's all about sight with her do you see a future for us do you see this you're a heartless motherfucker PJ Ph.A.

All right so let's guess Matt pride what do you think Matt's going to say yes I see a future with you I can't imagine he's going to yeah he's got all these other girls who have like who can hear wow both of you are monsters I can't believe I'm doing a show with you too

you two are creatures here was Matt's response I was so comfortable in our relationship that I explored other relationships and in exploring those relationships

with other women and going on those one-on-ones I did grow strong ones for them this is the greatest cheating speech you ever heard my life it's because a relationship is so strong that I went out and so fucking all these other girls

so now she's just looking down she doesn't know what he's saying and because she's about to try and you can stop talking if she's looking down yeah wow i can't believe i'm doing a show with viny he's a monster she's deaf viny come on give her a break yeah you heard me now listen i just feel bad he's like i felt so good and strong about our connection i went with all with all these other girls first and then i realized i liked them all better than you that's what he just told this girl so uh congratulations abigail she leaves right after this like

they take her out like it's not stick around to the next ceremony it's just like bye honey those are our notable people who are leaving and it's around this time that some scandal starts pj we know that the season began on a january 4th we're going to talk about a lot of dates now because we're going to go down the timeline of this fucking crazy story oh god now for those of you for those of you who have followed what's been going on outside of this house on The Bachelor. On the first night that this show premiered, a girl named Maddie Beirster on TikTok who claims she went to high school with Rachel. Cuses Rachel of teasing her in the past for liking black men.

So, PJ, there's the video you can see it. It says, girly, remember when you bullied me in high school for like the black guys? and it's a picture of her and that on the screen and basically just being played over laughter were they like brewing a potion while they were doing that what the fuck was that laughing there was definitely there was definitely a cauldron of that fucking room also high school isn't that long ago for her

because I think she's like 22 yeah so I'm talking to the last four years right like fairly recently yeah so like a day later the video goes viral this girl Maddie is messaged by other people claiming they also experienced racial racist behavior and bullying from Rachel either in high school or college. Now, for those of you who listened to the last episode, you know that Rachel is the girl who went out and got the fancy shoes, the lubitons. The obvious favorite.

Yes, the obvious favorite. Also, not the Louis Vuitton. Shut the fuck up, Vinnie. I said the lupitons. Lubitons. I said it properly this time. Okay, thank you. What a fucking problem I am for not knowing the names of the woman's shoes. Are those the red bottom?

Yes. Okay. Yes. So she got the date that all the girls want the most. And now outside of the house, this scandal is starting to brew. Now, the allegations against Rachel don't stop just in bullying. People came through with images from her social media, screenshots showing her cultural appropriation in some photos, liking posts of Confederate. flags and also sharing Qaeda theories.

I mean, who really cares? She was in high school. Who cares? Like, imagine you're in high school and your parents, like, introduce you to all this stuff. And you're just like, oh, yeah, this is like normal. Okay, yeah, like Confederate flags. Yeah, that's just part of life. She's from a place called Cummings, Georgia. I'm not like surprised that a Confederate flag in the background of something doesn't immediately set off an alarm for her. Because, you know, not for nothing. they're still everywhere

down south they're everywhere up north yeah I see them up here yeah you live in pencil tucky we don't see that stuff in a classy place like Rochester Dewey McBride no

sometimes most of those have been replaced with the Trump flags though where I live well that's like well yeah I'm from one county so there are some so all I'm saying is like she's from Georgia

like they were upset because she took pictures with people with friends wearing Mad Maga Hats that she liked. Who gives a fuck? Yeah, I don't care. That doesn't matter. Yeah, who cares? Shut the fuck up. So February 2nd, okay, the show is over with. It's already been filmed. It's in the can. It just debuted. All of this stuff is starting to come out. So Matt James responds in an interview with entertainment tonight. He says,

I've not spoken to anybody since the show ended, but I would say that you have to be really careful about what you're doing on social media. Rumors are dark and nasty and can ruin people's lives. so Matt James kind of defends her says there's a lot of stuff going around about the women that were evolved in the show I would just like to give them a chance to kind of have their say their peace whether that is someone who's

gone night one or someone who went home last night. Everyone has a story and I just want to be receptive to that. That's what stupid Matt said. Now here is the thing that flipped everybody the fuck out. It's not the MAGA hats. It's not the Confederate flags. Pictures emerge

on February 4th of Rachel at an old South antebellum-themed party. Now, was that that movie that just came out? Yeah,

I thought it was like some country singer band at first. Yeah. Isn't it laid antebellum like a famous band? Well, the Antebellum South

means before the war. The term antebellum, I believe, just means before the war. So in a way, it's supposedly celebrating

old school way of living in the South, which, of course, implies slavery. States' rights, you know, particularly one particular right they really wanted to have. Yes. Man, those were the days. A Reddit thread provided additional details about the photos. It claims Rachel attended the formal at Georgia College and State University, which was hosted by the Kappa Alpha Order in 2018. Two years after the fraternity's board of directors nationally told all of these

sororities they are not allowed to do these parties anymore apparently it was a thing they sent out a statement banning them saying that chapters shall not sponsor functions with the name old south or functions with any similar name all functions and activities must be conducted with a strait dignity without the trappings and symbols that might be misinterpreted or objectional to the general public so this frat in georgia this sorority in georgia is like we're going to still have our antebellum party for some fucking reason and none of them thought it would come back to bite anybody in the ass

but here we are also our 1917 German mixer goes on his plan yeah so what you're explaining is kind of what I looked up but I didn't I kind of stopped there what even happens at these parties

like is it just a party and then they have a Confederate flag up so who cares I'm gonna show you if they're like auctioning off black guys to have sex with then obviously that's a big problem but it sounds like they just are having a normal sorority party with the Confederate flag

Who's that a problem for? PJ. PJ, here's the picture. You ready? There's one on the screen. There's three girls, two friends and pink dresses smiling. Yeah, exactly.

There's a big group part. There's a big group picture here. And they're all just wearing old school, big, big, like, hooped at the bottom dresses. And they're all wearing, like, what looks like prom dresses. That's it. So who cares? Yeah. And then there's like a, she's there on the end.

That's it. That's pretty much it. It's a sorority party where they all wore stupid fucking dresses. Yeah, like, it just seems like harmless. It's not like they're like, yeah, it's not like they're like auctioning off people or whipping anybody. They're just like, oh, we're wearing old clothes and we have a Confederate flag up. There's no Confederate flag up. I don't see a Confederate flag anywhere. I'm assuming that wherever they're having the party, they probably have one up.

Yeah. Well, I mean, they probably hung up by the Purdy Cross. now these fucking women did not have to call this a goddamn antebellum party they did not have to call it an old South party all they have to do is call it a southern style cotillion or something like that they're really stupid for doing this

it is stupid it's not worth it was specifically banned it was probably specifically banned for a reason because that's why anything gets banned if something is banned it's because somebody got fucking bent out of shape about it. So there you go.

Now. Also, this is the same. The Bachelor community is known for just like throwing people in the trash if they do a single thing they don't like. Like the MAGA hat thing, people legitimately like freak the fuck out if they find out, oh, this person voted for Trump. Holy fuck, they're the worst person in the world.

When it's just like, yeah, they probably just like agreed with some of his politics more. It's not because they're like fuck black people. Yeah. So like the bachelor community is kind of not one that you want to mess around. Are you saying people who watch network television might be a little too woke, is I was trying to tell they?

Okay. In internet communities and internet communities, they're telling me they're too woke on the internet. Is that your point? Okay, okay, I said I was retarded, moving on. Oh, with the R word. Now, the allegations against Rachel continue to be a hot topic at Bachelor Nation, PJ. and former bachelor at Rachel Lindsay

organizes an interview with via Extra with Chris Harrison the dirty wordsmith himself he was like I can sell a ton of my filth books with his fucking interview people who watch Extra and people who watch The Bachelor is just one circle of end diagram right?

Yeah yeah it's almost like a human centipede it's just shit going all the way through both ends now uh here's the how this interview starts. Now, McBride, I'm really going to be interested to hear your opinions on this. Give us a listen. What are your thoughts about Rachel Kirkanel and the allegations attached to her?

A couple of things. First and foremost, I don't know. I haven't talked to Rachel about it. And this is, again, where we all need to have a little grace, a little understanding, a little compassion, because I've seen some stuff online. Again, this judge jury executioner thing where people are just tearing this girl's life apart and diving into like her parents and her parents voting record and what

it's unbelievably alarming to watch this. Okay. I can't disagree with that statement, you know, because here's the fact of the matter. This may have been an antebellum party. They may have put the word antebellum on a fucking flyer, but they all just were going to wear their old school

dresses or whatever the fuck and have a party and nobody fucking thought twice. Right. I don't know. I have no clue. I have no defense for it. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Where's my song?

I don't care. I can't see in that picture. Did they invite somebody who's at least Southern Greek or something? Yeah. I would say that there's not a lot of diversity in that sorority. I will say that. That might have helped them out. Here's where the interview goes kind of south for Chris Harrison, ladies and gentlemen.

The picture was from 2018 at an old south antebellum party. So I think, you know, when you, when you, it's not, when you hold that under the lens. It's not a good look. It's not a good. Well, Rachel, is it a good? Okay, he starts to say, no, it's not a good look. Good. Stop talking, Chris.

Stop fucking talking. Yeah. Good look in 2018 or is it not a good look in 2021? It's not a big difference. Fucking idiot. Because she's celebrating the old South. If I went to that party, what would I? I represent at that party.

Okay. You want to know the right answer to that? If you're Chris Harrison, if you're Chris Harrison and you want to defuse this thing, your answer is, who do you want to be? It's a make-em-a-party. You could be whoever you want to be.

That's the answer. Finney, it was way back in 2018. You don't remember those times. Oh, my God. You know, times were very different back in 2018. You can't remember what it was like in 2018. Like, that was the only thing that I disagreed with him on is like, Come on. It's three years ago. Not much has changed.

I mean, what a dummy. I don't disagree with you. You're a hundred percent right in 2021. That was not the case in 2018. Again, I'm not defending Rachel. I just know that, I don't know. When racism started in 2019. In 2018. 50 million? You know, it's like there were, that was a type of party that a lot of people went to.

That was not the case in 2018. Again, I'm not defending Rachel. I just know that, I don't know. 50 million people did that in. 2018. What? You know, it's like there were, that was a type of party that a lot of people went to. And again, I'm not defending, I didn't heard of this type of party.

Same. So if 50 million people are getting invites and I, not one, not one guys? It's unbelievable. 50 million people went to these parties. And not PJ, not Big Brian, and not Big Vinny Pee. None of us were invited. We love parties.

And I'm the first on the invite list. Like, I love that NWRD. Just kidding. I don't love that. you're a real problem so he also says this this is one of my favorite things so tell me about the party my guess these girls got dressed up

and went to a party and had a great time they were 18 years old now does it make it okay I don't know Rachel you tell me oh no why are you like arguing with an African American woman about this Chris no why why if you wanted to make the points

they were 18 they were stupid we all did stuff at 18 I'm sure they really regret it now you know something like that and rachel hasn't said a word now the word the rumor was that the uh the producers were muzzling her now these pictures came out on the fourth chris harrison's on extra defending her on the 10th one day later she puts out a statement yeah what a cunt well there have been rumors circulating there have also been truths that have come to light that i need to address i hear you and i'm here to say i was wrong at one point i didn't recognize how offensive my racist actions were. But that doesn't excuse them. My age or when it happened does not excuse

anything. They are not acceptable or okay in any sense. I was ignorant, but my ignorance was racist. I am sorry to the communities and individuals that my actions harmed and offended. I am ashamed about my lack of education, but is no one's responsibility to educate me. I am learning and will continue to learn how to be anti-racist, because it's important to speak up in a moment and not after you're called out. If you're a person who doesn't understand the offense in question, I urge you to learn from my mistakes and encourage you to use

them as a teachable moment. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, sincerely your grandson, Frank. No, she said literally everything you could say, and I bet you people were still pissed at her, and there's nothing you can do. No, she got off pretty easily, actually. The thing is, like, I hate this woman because of that,

Because Chris Harrison saw this woman being attacked by the hate mob and was like, no one's going to stand up for her. I'll take the brunt of this. Right under the bus, Christopher. He didn't do like a good job in this interview, but I thought it was kind of admirable that he tried to stand up for and be understanding. He did say retarded stuff. But then this chick just like threw him under the bus and said stuff that's so stupid.

Like, I'm the only one who can educate me. I can't blame my age or stuff. Of course she is. You were just in school, your whole life, idiot. What do you mean you can't blame other people for educating you? Like, you were only 18. Lots of people are educated by school systems that are where they're growing up. Not in Georgia.

That pisses me the fuck off that like, oh, I can't be the responsible for educating myself. You were a kid like six months before that. Like, yeah, you've been adult six months. Like, it's not a great idea to go to Lady Antebellum party. But that's what you were grown up at top. Like, fuck off with. being like oh it's not my fault like or like it's not anyone's fault but mine like it kind of is some other people's fault that pissed me off like she's such a cunt then she threw chris harrison

on the bus oh man you just love christ harrison too much you need to calm now you can you tell i'm triggered now would you like to know what happens next micbride same day february 11th the same day your statement comes out um it's not going to be good for chris harrison michelle one of the other contestants that teacher she's a very engaged individual so okay She put out a statement, we are the women of Bachelors season 25, 25 women who identify as BIPOC, which is black people, indigenous people of color, for those of you didn't know, were cast on this historic season that was meant to represent change. The statement reads, we are deeply disappointed and want to make it clear that we denounce any defense of racism. We're looking at you, Chris Harrison. Any defense of racist behavior denies the live.

and continued experience of BIPOC individuals. These experiences are not to be exploited or tokenized. Rachel Lindsay continues to advocate with grace for individuals who identify as BIPOC within this franchise. Just because she is allowed us doesn't mean she is alone. We stand with her, we hear her, and we advocate for change alongside her. POC is such like a racist-sounding thing.

How is person to color any different than colored person? you know what I mean? I brought that up with my friend Delvin. I'm like, isn't it basically just the exact same phrase? You're just flipping, like, adding in a preposition. And he's like, yeah, I hate that term. Like, it's weird that they've accepted that as common vernacular when it sounds just as racist as like the other way to say. Yeah, it turns out my racist grandmother, we're just way ahead of the times. Yeah, apparently. Apparently. So February 13th, Chris Harrison announced he's stepping aside. Now, that's all he said is he put out how are we still talking about this this is so long because it's really because it gets better and I have some points I'd like to make this is like months ago at this

point too oh my god because I'm trying to be done with this season we should have done this when it was relevant I was busy when I was even more pissed maybe it's good we didn't because I was even more pissed off at that stupid chick than I am now so so Rachel Lindsay the one who did the interview comes out

she said this on a podcast. I came across this clip. During that conversation, he talked over me and at me. During that conversation, his privilege was on display. He never gave me room to talk, and he never gave me room to share my perspective. He wasn't trying to hear it. He was just trying to be heard. Now, my thought is this. I'm looking at what this is. They labeled this discussing the Chris Harrison interview. The key word in there is interview. Yeah, I was going to say, like, do you know what an interview is. An interview is not, when you schedule an interview, it's not like, hey, listen, bring this person in so I could tell them what I think about their situation.

Right. It's, I want to hear what you have to say. I don't think she liked what he had to say, and most people don't. It was pretty stupid. I think we all agree. So, like, I get that, but this was just a weird sentence to me that I just thought I should play. Like, Chris Harrison, I think, has a pretty long track record of being fair and, like, being someone that everybody likes. because I bet that if I'm sure that this lady has a podcast, as does everybody else who's ever been on The Bachelor, I'm sure that she praises Chris Harrison like two weeks before this on her pad like podcast like, oh, Chris Harrison's awesome and now she just does a complete 180 because he said that 2018 and 2021 are completely different.

Well, dumb thing to say, man, don't you say something stupid like that? Right under the bus you go, my friend. Now, here's a fun thing. Rachel comes out. Matt makes another statement, kind of like shitting on Harrison to. and Rachel asked the fans to stop defending her on her Instagram. She made a little video and she goes, if you're in my comments or defending me anywhere,

telling people that I did nothing wrong and that there's nothing to be heard about, there's nothing to be angry about or offended about. Please stop. That's not our place to tell people what they can and can't be offended about. That's wrong and that's part of the problem. I mean, I can tell people what they cannot be offended about. I feel like, is that the American thing?

Yeah. Isn't it? I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to have an opinion on your opinion. Right. But either way, Rachel Lindsay deletes her Instagram after getting hate from Bachelor fans, which I thought was shocking. Wait, isn't Rachel Lindsay this black chick? Yeah. She got hate for this?

Yes. Oh, good job, Bachelor Nation. Now, February 28. I hate this chick. The Bachelor announces that Emmanuel Acho will replace Chris Harrison for after the final rose. Now, Emmanuel is a former Bengals linebacker who they just brought in to be the person for this. Now, let's talk about what Chris Harrison has to do now.

He's stepped aside. They have replaced him on the show. So now he goes on to Good Morning America with Michael Strayhan, who for some reason people think seems to be a good broadcaster. I don't understand why they think that. Doesn't the gap in his teeth in the list? Well, no, he fixed the gap in his teeth. No, that was a joke.

Oh, was it? Yeah. So here is Chris Harrison's apology. So a lot of people, and I'm wondering, why would you defend Rachel Kirkconell? I am an imperfect man. I made a mistake, and I own that. I believe that mistake doesn't reflect who I am or what I stand for. I am committed to the progress, not just for myself, also for the frantician.

also for the franchise yeah for the franchise we get it Chris well we get it so him and like Papa John are just hanging out now try to not say the N word together yeah they're both just eating Papa John's pizzas to find the flaws okay well they hug each other and cry and then he adds this this is my favorite line I want to keep this and I just ladies and gentlemen this is some really solid advice right here antebell and parties are not okay past present future, knowing what that represents is unacceptable. Not even in 2018, Chris. It was such a different time.

You know what? I'm going to stop going to them. I mean, they're all over the place. 50 billion people a year ago. I'm just not going to do it anymore, guys. I'm surprised I haven't accidentally stumbled into one at this point with how many you're happening. It was late driving home today.

And the Bellam Party got my way. so the finale airs very soon after this and it comes down to four girls serena p the girl who thought he was weird for the turtle stuff brie the girl who was in the uh at tv accident with him michel the teacher

and fucking rachel kirkconnell man lady antebellum herself now i like how you have said those names if anyone remembered any of that stuff that happened. You remember when Brie crashed on the ATV. Nobody remembers Vinny. I'm trying to be a good host. God damn it, PJ!

Hey, well, do a better job. I'm almost done. I'm almost done hosting this show. So the final rose ceremony, the winner is Rachel. They knew this whole time. All this shit comes out. This show is in the can. And they find out that this girl won.

because they didn't better enough apparently and no wonder Chris Harrison has to go out there and talk about the franchise I know that's what you were going to say and protecting the franchise

when they already knew that this girl wins the whole fucking thing. So like that does make Chris Harrison's thing not as admirable because it's like oh he's just trying to protect the chick who won because we don't want it to have like oh the villain of the season

and ended up winning. Like, all these women are absolutely horrible to each other, and the real villain is the one who's secretly, supposedly racist, and then wins the whole thing. Like, that would be actually bad for the Bachelor franchise. So it makes a lot more sense in the context of him doing that. But it still was shitty how much she got thrown under the bus for something that was seemingly fairly harmless, in my opinion.

And not to mention that they did announce two days before the finale that Caitlin Bristow and Tashia Adams are going to be the new host of The Bachelorette and that Chris isn't going to be on that this year. So he's fucked. I don't know what's going to happen to that guy. Did I nail him? Yeah. You're controversial.

Fuck you. So is this even bad for the show? Or is this just give them so much attention that this was like the best thing to ever happen to them? Guess what? Guess what, McBride? I don't care. I don't care.

I don't give a fuck what happens. Chris Harrison, go fuck yourself. Right. Just smutful. motherfucker. I don't care. Rachel Kirkcault, go have all the goddamn parties you want. I don't care.

I don't care. I don't care. I feel like it would be an injustice for us not to finish out this story. Freedom! Okay. Here's how we'll finish it off. Let's talk about what happened to Matt and Rachel after the finale. Rachel gets picked. Usually, you know,

the whole point of this is to have an engagement in a wedding, right, PJ? Supposedly. Yeah, the past like seasons that I've all watched, have all been complete cluster fucks after the season ends so well why should this be any different so they have the show

where the ex linebacker of the Bengals is hosting it which why I didn't look into it at all because I was kind of tapped out by that point where they're like Emmanuel a chose doing all the stuff why get him I'm like isn't that just a football player why is he hosting yeah I have no idea

and he's like 30 he could still be playing if he was is it just because he's black no he probably auditioned for it I mean, I didn't watch much of his stuff. I mean, I watched clips of this final thing. But Matt dumped Rachel pretty quick after this whole thing. Like immediately. As far as I remember, he basically found out about it and immediately dumped her.

Because he's like, well, I can't be with someone who I think is racist when I'm black, which fair enough. Here's what he said on the, we're going to leave this with our final two clips of creeps and roses. He says, I can't wait for us. And so when I questioned our relationship, it was on the context of you not fully understanding my blackness and what it means to be a black man in America and what it would mean for our kids when I saw those things. You can't take our kids to lady into ballot parties, Rachel. Because this is the last conversation I thought we'd be having. I didn't sign up to have this conversation. this is the moment when he realized he had to be rid of her and that he couldn't like make this work

most disappointing thing for me was having to explain to you why what I saw was problematic and why I was so upset so I'd like to point something out here if he had to explain to her why what she did was problematic and why he was upset where did this apology really come from that she can't put out with this apology about this teachable moment and she's working so hard to learn

she learned it all from him he had to explain this to her and he was like I doubt she even read it probably just paid a PR person to write it I'm sure that Chris Harrison or somebody else there had wrote this for her it was not Chris Harrison

yeah it was definitely not Chris Harrison you're right it was somebody over there wrote this so he had to explain to her that this was wrong because she didn't quite grasp it so to me match made in heaven and I'm done kids I'm done with the bachelor

fuck you Carl what I missed what about all the Matt James drama what Matt James drama and the new Bachelor news just popped like yesterday what I don't care I'm done five episodes well you said we talk about Colton Colton's gay okay we got the first black

We got the first black bachelor and the first gay bachelor retroactively. Which makes me think watching The Bachelor, this is now confirmed it, that The Bachelor is straight conversion therapy. It just might be. It just might be. Listening to all these whiny girls, you're like, fine. Get some dick in here. Somebody always like that and send it to me.

We need to get me pride. Also, I think Matt James tried to get back with this Rachel chick then. Or she tried to get back with him. I forget. It's confusing. I think that he tried to get back. with her but he was having sex with other people good for him good for him was it colton i'm just kidding yeah it's cold okay so ladies and gentlemen that's creeps of roses i don't give

a fuck anymore i've done oh man i could eat my ass now i want to thank all my uh my vietnam true believers i want to thank the creep of maniacs i want to thank the scum parade merry marchers don't forget to creep off patreon exists now uh tune in on monday we got a brand new episode of The Creepoff coming your way. And I would like to put something out there for you, folks. I have found a show that I would be interested in possibly doing a spinoff of Creeps and Roses. Okay.

But it's only if PJ would be my co-host for it. And McBride, you could come to. Is it flavor of love? Tell me it's flavor. No, it's that flavor of love. There is a new show that's coming out that I just cannot wait for. And here's the preview. PJ, I want you to watch us, and you tell me if you want to do this show with me.

Okay. We want to set a new standard for all of our wrestling. Here we go. Go, go, go, go, hero, hero, co. Tony and Brandy Rhodes, the king and queen of AEW coming to the ring. Who the hell told you tonight was open mic, bitch. Bitch. This is dope.

How bad do you want to just get down when you see this? She already escaped. What do you all do it? This is actually not. Going good. So what we have here is Cody Rhodes, the Prince of Pro wrestling, the grand son of a pluma, baby, the son of the American dream, the brother of Gold Dust and Rhodes. Ladies and gentlemen, Cody fucking Rhodes, the man and his lovely wife, Brandy, are doing a reality show. And the name of the show will be.

Is it Rocky Rhodes? No, the name of my show will be creeps and Rhodeses. And if you want me to do Creeps and Roadses, just let me know. I hate how much I love that name. Yeah, it's a good name. Creeps and Roadses. Can I quick add that has a thing? This is dope, or is that one of you guys just really excited?

That was not me. That was McBride. That was not me. Okay. I think that was dope. I already have the cover worked out. McBride, I'm going to show you. I think I sent it to PJ.

Didn't I send you what I want the cover to look like PJ? I don't think so. You sent me the name. I thought it was a joke. Are you being serious? No, I'm not serious. I want to do this. Okay, I'll do it.

Here's the picture I want to use. That's me, Cody, and Brandy. You did send that to me, okay. So, just me, Cody and Brandy. Is this another quarterly podcast? No, we would do it. I'd be so excited to watch this because I'm such a big fan of Cody and Brandy. They're so wonderful.

So it's like you're like turning it on me. Then I have to watch something shitty that I don't want to see. But then I can. make you hate wrestling oh yes oh this is going to be great okay i can't wait to make you hate wrestling you'll never it'll never happen i am going to make you all suffer if we do this so uh if you want to see creeps and roses let me know kids uh tweet at me uh mcbride yeah thank you for helping me deal with us i didn't even lose a real spin i don't know why i'm here yeah well uh pj great job as my co-host i really appreciate you guiding me through this

fucking sewer that is the bachelor nation it's it was rough like I started off having so much fun with how much you hated it but it was just such a slog to like have watched all these when they came out and then have to go back and try to we watch them and then being like this is so shit the second

time watching it and then watching recaps but the only recaps on YouTube are that are decent are by this guy who's absolutely horrible at the recap so yeah it's been rough I kind of hate the bachelor now so that's amazing I'm very happy to hear that listen to we are assholes my podcasts where we use a spreadsheet to justify

saying offensive things uh great mcbride do you have anything you'd like to plug uh i'm hosting a trivia night it's tuesday uh but more importantly i am i'll be there hosting here at the comedy of the carlson oh that's right somebody hired you yeah that's right idiots uh congrats all right kids that's the end of our show. Fuck the Bachelor and the asshole. I don't care. We got roses.

We have dreams. I don't care. I'm okay.