The Creep Off - Episode 104: Legalize Hugs

Episode Date: March 14, 2022

In this week’s show Karl & Vinnie make their nominations for the biggest creep from the great state of Idaho: In the Scum Parade we meet a pizza man with a bladder issue, a man who only... wanted to make his son the best he can be and a 10-year-old baby murderer. Vote this week at The Creep OffSupport the show and get cool merch on Patreon

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ah, it's great to be back after a week. Carl, Tucker Dixon, uh, submitted another video recap this week. Yeah. Hey, everyone, Tucker Dixon here this week, and I'm a tuckinator sandwich. Anyways, last week was I can't believe Carl didn't pick Fauci week. And I can't believe it. Carl didn't pick Fauci. He picked the man who just wanted to recreate Planet the Apes for real this time, though.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Vinnie's creep, on the other hand, was a man who just loved motivational speakers and decided to try to fake it until he made it. But his family just kept getting in the way. I'm on vacation this week, so I really haven't done any research. It was like fake doctor week or something. So I guess I'll just pick voucher. Anyways, that's all I got for this week. Hucker, out. Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't any of these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation. Horror shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive, and I'm not backing down. cuckoo, cuckoo! Hey, kids!
Starting point is 00:01:30 Ola, Creepbos, welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps by creeps, for you, creeps. I'm your fat host. I'm your fat host. Is that what that said? Yeah, I just stole it from Ash. The worst drop ever. I'm your fat host. I'm your fat host, Vinnie.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Nice to meet you. Glad to have you here. And joining me a stupid Carl. Hey, buddy. What is it happening, Vinnie Paulina? How are you feeling, buddy? Oh, I don't even know. They're filming a movie.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Yes. filming a movie. It's very obnoxious. There's a lot of crew around, a lot of signs to be quiet. I'm not good at being quiet, Vinnie. They're going to be so bad. That's not something I do well.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I wonder if they'll put us in the credits. Amnoxious disembodied voice one. Abnoxious disembodied voice, too. It's a hamburger, H-A-M-B-U. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I'm going to use my stage name, Artie Fletcher. Perfect. Ladies and gentlemen, I got to tell you, it's great to be back. I have a big announcement. Carl, are you excited? I don't know. What is it? What's our big announcement? The date of the carl and pretty roast. Oh, we have a date for the roast. We got the date. We told you we'd tell you this week. It's going to be Saturday, September 17th. Okay. The weather will still be warm in Rochester. It's a lovely time of year. It is a lovely time of year. It really is quite a lovely time of year. You could bring back some apples. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Or you could, you know, not. I don't give a fuck what you do. Just buy a ticket to come to the show. It's going to be a comedy at the Carlson, and we're going to have tickets on sale very soon, and you've got plenty of time to plan, folks.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Awesome. That'll be fun. All right. Very good. So last week, we did an episode, and we both kind of had an argument over. Creepiest mad scientist. It was creepiest doctor. Creepiest mad scientist for March Madness, everybody.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Carl, I don't care. And this week is probably something about Ireland or Irish people, I would imagine. No, it's about potatoes, Carl. It's about potatoes. We're going to Idaho today. But before we do, let's talk about the results from last week. Let's talk about the results from last time. 53% go to Carl.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah, baby. Holy shit. You got to say, I am on a winning streak. This is three in a row. I am leading three zero this round of the creep off. This is exciting stuff. I'm not happy about it. I'm doing well.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I'm feeling it. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good about today. That all your creep did was stuff that people do on the internet all the time now. Oh, he didn't actually make a monkey army. He didn't genetically splice anything. He just made different animals fuck each other, which is just kinkshaming is what you're doing. Wait, people make different animals fuck each other on the internet all the time?
Starting point is 00:04:16 What are you talking about? Probably, I assume. Probably I assume. What the fuck? All right. Well, you're a little too late for that argument there, but the votes are in, and I am victorious. yet again. Should we tell people what this game is that we're playing? We probably should remind everybody. Each week, Carl and I are going to nominate a creep in a category.
Starting point is 00:04:35 This week's category is Idaho, and we are going to be nominating the biggest creeps from Idaho, and you will be able to vote for who's who's creep was the creepiest. Who brought the biggest creep is what you want to vote on at the creepop.com? Not who you think is more handsome, who you think is more thin. None of that. none of this who would it be a more annoyed if I voted this way is not a good way to vote it's only about the creep that we brought in the argument
Starting point is 00:05:00 that we made and because Carl won last week he has three points if he gets to five he will make me spin the awful wheel of consequences that is correct and I am looking forward to that so that means I refuse to do I refuse to spin the wheel until you do your burger consequence
Starting point is 00:05:15 I know I gotta do my burger consequence so dude here's the thing man like you could win I refuse I will not spend that goddamn wheel That's not in the rulebook, my friend. Yeah, either is waiting months to do here. I know, I'll get to it. Tucker, how do you make, how do you make yourself a hamburger? Let me a know.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Oh, he's on vacation. Go ahead. Go your first. All right. Creepiest person in Idaho. In September of 2021, Kamala Harris visited Idaho and therefore, all right, I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:05:50 My creep this week is a man named, named Joseph Edward Duncan the third. Are you familiar with this person, Vinnie? Yeah, because he was the first result when I googled Idaho criminals. In 1978, when he was 15 years old, he got started real early this guy. He raped a 9-year-old boy at gunpoint. How old was he? He was 15.
Starting point is 00:06:09 He raped a 9-year-old at gunpoint. The following year, he was arrested for driving a stolen car. He was sentenced as a juvenile and sent to some boys ranch in Tacoma, where he told a therapist he had bound and sexually assaulted six boys. He also told the therapist that he estimated that he had raped 13 younger boys by the time he was 16 years old. So this guy really likes raping children and got started pretty young at it. Yeah, that's not a good habit to get into when you're young. In 1980, Duncan stole a bunch of guns from a neighbor and then abducted a 14-year-old boy and raped him at gunpoint again.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Duncan was sentenced to 20 years in prison for this crime. This was in 1980. He was released on parole in 1994 after serving 14 of the 20 years. He was a good boy in jail, apparently. Yeah, well, he didn't have a gun to rape anybody left. That's true. That's a good point. So between 1994 and 1997, he murdered Sammy Joe White 11 and her half-sister, Carmen Kubius, 9.
Starting point is 00:07:11 So he went after girls now? He got out of prison and he got converted? Yep, in Seattle. So they scared him straight? Well, he killed these two girls by beating them to death. He also killed Anthony Martinez. as in Riverside County, California, which we'll get to later. It's more about that.
Starting point is 00:07:26 That's not good. He was not convicted of any of these crimes in those three years. What do you mean? Well, he murdered people and was not convicted. Did he go to trial for it? Nope, there were just cold cases. Okay, gotcha. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:07:38 He wasn't charged with the crimes. Right. That's what I should have said. He was arrested in Missouri and returned to prison in 1997 after violating terms of his parole. And he was released in July of 2000 with time off for good behavior. real jerk so he spent most of his adult life in prison but now in the year 2000
Starting point is 00:07:56 he's free and in March of 2005 he was charged with the molestation of two boys at a playground in Detroit Lakes Minnesota so he had five relatively good years well he didn't get caught so yeah there's that so he was charged with
Starting point is 00:08:13 the molestation of these two boys they set the bail of $15,000 some idiot helped him post the bail and Duncan just skip town that should be your creep and headed off to Idaho and now we get to the part in Idaho on May 16th 2005 authorities discovered the bodies of Brenda groan 40 years old her boyfriend Mark McKenzie 37 and her son Slade Grown in their home along Lake Cordillane Cordellini and um that sounds way too ethnic to be in Idaho I know I'm probably
Starting point is 00:08:47 pronouncing that wrong why don't you play my video number one where it explains what this guy did. Now, typically this guy's really into like molesting and murdering children, but this time he got the adults involved. In May 16, 2005, Duncan broke into the Grones' home, tied everyone up and bludgeoned the mother, Brenda 39, her boyfriend, Mark McKenzie, 37, and Brenda's son, slayed, 13, with a claw hammer.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Duncan took Dylan, nine, and Shasta, eight, somewhere else where he later tortured and molested them. Idaho authorities were stunned by the site that met them at the grown home. Blood and gore were everywhere. The faces of the victims could hardly be recognized. So he takes these two kids, puts them in his Jeep, his stolen Jeep, goes into the house, ties everyone up, murders them, gets back in the car, tells the kids what he just did to their family, and says, okay, we're going camping, kids, and they drive off to a camp. The kids were like, yay. We hated mom's boyfriend anyway.
Starting point is 00:09:54 So these kids were abducted. This lasted for seven weeks. Funny by video number two. All right. Duncan took Dylan and Shasta in a stolen Cherokee Jeep. He brought them to the aforementioned campsite. He kept them there for weeks while forcing them to have sex with him and torturing them. Duncan made a video of his exploits.
Starting point is 00:10:19 It was later shown much to the shock of everyone in the courtroom. There revealed the horrific acts he committed on Shesta and Dylan, who at one point forced them to perform sex acts on each other. One of the jarring moments showed in the tape was when he tied a wire around Dylan's neck and hung him. Duncan masturbated as he watched Dylan gasp for air. Yikes. That's pretty creepy.
Starting point is 00:10:48 This guy's bad news. I felt like I was bad news because I'm thirsty and I was listening to that going I could go for a Shasta All right Well I have another video here Where it talks about
Starting point is 00:11:01 The murder of the Boy Dylan Well I just heard it He strangled on you No that he didn't kill him Oh that was just he auto erotically asphyxiated the boy The boy
Starting point is 00:11:13 It didn't do good things for the kid But he didn't die from that And you know what though That's like the opposite of the way you're supposed to do it. Correct. You're supposed to be the one jerking yourself. Yeah, right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:25 So he's experimenting this guy. He's creative. All right, video number three. Now half dead. He told Shasta to drag Dylan out of the tent and placed him beside a campfire. Duncan then accidentally shot the boy in the stomach with a sawed-off shotgun.
Starting point is 00:11:40 With his guts hanging out, Duncan thought it was already too late to save Dylan. And so, he shot the poor boy in the head, completely killing him. With the film still rolling, Duncan proceeded to chop Dylan's body into little pieces. He then forced Shasta to throw Dylan's body parts into the fire. The devil is here, boy, the devil himself. Duncan can be heard yelling on one of the videos.
Starting point is 00:12:06 The devil likes to watch children suffer and cry. This level of utter depravity was among the first that the FBI had ever come across. So, this- I don't like this guy- This guy's bad news. So he murders Dylan kind of by mistake. He didn't really mean to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:24 But he didn't mean to murder him completely dead. Right. Yeah. He just wanted to, you know, make it so he couldn't breathe for a minute. All right. So then he takes the daughter Shasta. And I mean, that's a real pretty heavy accusation to make against the devil that he likes to watch kids suffer. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:40 The devil's like, whoa, don't drag me into this shit. Yeah, dude. What I do? Come on. Yeah, we don't even know each other. Shit. So then, uh, this idiot. drives to a Denny's with Shasta and back near her hometown.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I know it'll make you feel better, little girl. Rudy Tootie, fresh and fruit. The waitress, the other customers, everyone recognized her. And they called the police. And without incident, he was taken into custody for this. After he was taken into custody, he decided to go ahead and admit to the murder of that Anthony Martinez in Riverside County, California. Jesus. And I have some video from that trial with Anthony's mother, who's Diana Reed, this is my video number four. Joseph Duncan barely opened his eyes as 14 years of justice played out in a California courtroom.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I don't even think of Duncan as human. Diana Reed lost her oldest son at the hands of what she calls the manifestation of evil. Duncan lured Anthony Martinez into his car, offering the little boy a dollar for help finding his lost. cat. Instead, Anthony ended up in the desert, bound with duct tape, raped, and murdered. By Duncan's own account, Anthony was the third child he had killed.
Starting point is 00:13:59 You know, lady, you want to solve this problem. Give your kid an allowance. Yeah, exactly. A dollar? He needed the dollar that badly. This is bad parenting. You know, at the very base level here, a kid shouldn't want
Starting point is 00:14:12 to do anything for a dollar. Thank God. This was 1996, though, many. A dollar went a lot further back then. Yeah, that was like a can of Coke and a bag of chips. You get two cans of Coke. Oh, it's amazing. All right, this is the last clip that I have. This is the judge in that trial explaining how evil this guy is.
Starting point is 00:14:32 The 31 years of being involved in the criminal justice system, I have never met a more evil person than Joseph Duncan. Joseph Duncan, the most evil person this judge has ever encountered. And I would believe that that is probably true. this guy is a creep he was sentenced to five life sentences without parole and was going to be given the death penalty but then he died from brain cancer on march 28th 2021 after refusing treatment so there you have it viny yeah why would you get treatment you want to stick around more for this shit well they did perform surgery on the guy they removed a tumor i'm like who the fuck is providing that surgery why you know what they should have done what's that taking that tumor out wait from her wake up and then just crammed it down his throat And watched him joke out his own fucking brain to him. Joseph Edward Duncan III, the creepiest creep in Idaho. Ah, not so fast, Carl. What do you got, Vinny?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Not so fast. What do you got? I got a guy who didn't need to go on sprees. He only needed to do one thing. That is so depraved and vile. I don't know. I don't. Get your sick bags, kids.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Oh, boy. Today I'll be talking about a situation that happened just a few months ago, Carl. This happened on a family compound in a rural area in there at Clark. Fork, Idaho. A 70-year-old man named David Flaggett. Okay. See, I'm not going to be able to stop laughing. Dude, guys.
Starting point is 00:15:58 The property caretaker went missing in September of 2021. Here's a picture of a good old David. Okay. An old cowboy. Yeah, he's a rancher, it looks like. Yeah. So this is a pretty rural area. It's owned by this family.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Oh, there's a rural area in Idaho? You don't say. It's right next to the potato farm. His family could not find. him he went missing in september of 2021 they were a little bit worried carl so the police were called by the flag at children okay and police after checking his house and not finding them started searching the area and they found his truck a gentleman by the name of james david russell 39 years old was standing by the truck wearing rubber gloves and he had a bucket that was filled with soap and water okay
Starting point is 00:16:41 and he looked like he was washing the car now this is the missing man's truck you have the car wash drop at the car wash or? I do not. Okay. Russell is a member of the family that own the property. He apparently had had some issues when Mr. Flaggett. The family had said that he had several past conflict like run-ins and then he had told the family about it. And he also said, that kid is weird and he creeps me out. Okay. Okay. David sees the cops and immediately runs into a garage that's by this area and locks himself up in the attic part of the garage. Okay. Telling the cops, their trespass, it gets to fuck off my property. It's normal behavior.
Starting point is 00:17:17 They found him with the truck. They wanted to question this guy. They ended up getting him down. And then they searched the truck. Short and sweet today, kids. All right. When they opened up the truck, they found Flaggett dead, upside down, wrapped in a tarp in the front passenger seat with his hands duct taped. He had no pants on.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Deputies examined the condition of Flaggett's body after removing it from the truck. And according to the court documents, Flager appeared to have had severe head trauma. And there was evidence that several areas of his body had been maimed. Hmm. After he was dead, specifically, part of his thigh and his penis was completely missing. Okay. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:17:59 It appeared the parts were removed after he died. Okay. Good. By the way, if you're going to remove my penis, kill me first. Correct. Correct. I'm cool with that. And I think that's probably why he put him upside down on the truck.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Because if you put, like, a man with a gaping wound where his penis used to be in the front seat, it's going to make a big mess. Big mess. Yeah, so he had him upside down, which to me shows that the guy had a little bit of common sense. He was also there cleaning a crime scene, but I just want to point that out. Okay. Carl, I have audio of the last words of David Flaggett. My cock is gone. Boy, me, Holly, stop.
Starting point is 00:18:31 No, wait a minute. Calm down. My cock is gone. Calm down. All right, touch, David is, you fuck. Who gives a shit? Who gives a fuck? He also said, you know what, I miss penis.
Starting point is 00:18:44 What a dick. This guy, James David, is found with the body. He keeps his mouse shut. He's arrested and charged with murder. The police get a search warrant for John David's house. And they found blood in some places. And they found evidence of like little pieces of meat in the kitchen area. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:03 One discovery here. They had to add a new charge to the, to the murder. Investigators found blood and tissue in a bowl inside the microwave. That's not how you cook human. Some of the tissue. Every microwave it, that's a shortcut that's not worth it. Some of the tissue indicated heat had been applied. They figured by look, the condition of the meat that was in there, that it was in there for at least one or two minutes, but there wasn't a lot of meat left.
Starting point is 00:19:27 You see, there was audio from a video camera in the kitchen. Here's what happened. He ate the 70-year-old man's penis. Do we know that? Yes. For sure, why did he cook it first? Would you eat it raw? Look at this guy again.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Yeah. That's not the penis you want to eat, girl. If you're going to eat one, don't want one that's all old and stringy. Oh, is that the problem with this, the guy's too old to eat his penis? He ate a 70-year-old. It is the fault of the wang. Oh, I don't think it's funny. It's not funny. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Blah. So he is the first man in Idaho to ever be charged with cannibalism, and it happened last September. No shit. All right. Well, that's a fun one. Yeah. Witnesses report that on the day of Flagg, it's killing Russell acted agitated and recently had been having mental health issues. Court documents indicated, well, at a California hospital receiving psychiatric help last May, Russell reportedly told his family he wanted to cut chunks of his skin off with a knife to cure his brain. Hmm. Okay. The family had a lot
Starting point is 00:20:46 of warning signs and Mr. Russell was a danger to himself or others, but still they brought him home and let him loose on this fucking property. And a trial in October was suspended following his referral to the Idaho security medical program, the results of which have been sealed. He did appear for a review hearing on December 28th, but
Starting point is 00:21:02 he was given 180 days still in the nut hut. Like they're keeping them under observation. This guy's fucking nuts and he ate a 70 year old man's dick off. That's gross So ladies and gentlemen This other guy is a monster sure But I mean this guy's like fucking Gallum running around
Starting point is 00:21:19 This fucking farm He had a bad day He just had a bad day A 70 year old man whose job is like I'm just here feeding the chickens How you doing? Did he make an 8 and 9 year old brother and sister Have sex with each other
Starting point is 00:21:30 No he did not He had one bad day He didn't even cut the guy's penis up until after he was dead Very nice You heard the part about the results of which were sealed. I don't know. He might have. He might have had something to do with 9-11. I don't know, but you should vote for me at the creepop.com. James David Russell,
Starting point is 00:21:49 ladies and gentlemen. All right. Very good presentation, Benny. He ate a fucking penis. I know. I heard you. I get it. Carl, shall we do some voicemails? Yes, let's do voicemails. The Creepoff voicemail segment was brought to you by the city of Syracuse. Jim Beehme's wife was robbed at gunpoint by a 12.
Starting point is 00:22:09 year old boy guns yet another weakness of the two three zone see you in syracuse nice well done mcbride you'd have to if you're not from syracuse you might not get that one that doesn't matter it's pretty funny it's good all right uh this one just came in at very not too long ago here we go Zinny, I listen to you on who are these guests with and then today I was walking up to food so of course I thought of you and started laughing again that Daniel day-drinking Lewis line was just it was brilliant, that was funny saying on the whole show
Starting point is 00:22:50 That was a good line Thank you, thank you. Congrats. I like, oh, you pretended like you haven't even listened to that. Yeah, you're like, oh, this just came in, let's see what this is. Oh, someone complimenting me. No shit. Dude, I will tell you this.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah. There is like a transcript thing, like a loose transcript thing that pops up. And I saw Daniel Day Lewis, so I assumed it had something to do with that. And I thought it was going to be 50-50. I was ready to take it either way. Okay. All right. Let's see what else we got.
Starting point is 00:23:16 You got to step up your game on the creepball. First of all, Carl, you weak bitch. Do your fucking consequences. You got to change it now. You don't do your consequences. Two weeks within a month. You got to spin the wheel again. And we got up the consequences, especially for Vinny.
Starting point is 00:23:28 24 hours. live stream locked in a room no food or he's got to do an insanity workout for an hour or we just feed him to ash you know what all three of those things would kill him you know what all three feed him to ash is not bad to put out of the wood you like that one fed to ash
Starting point is 00:23:48 Jesus Christ alright what else we got hey dudes here's an idea for the wheel keep dinner with listener on just as a permanent fixture I think it's just a funny consequence and
Starting point is 00:24:05 there will never be a shortage of creepy listeners to do that with. Thank you, fuck you bye. Still working on your dinner with Heather W. Oh, yeah. What is going on with that? Did she ever respond? I got nothing at the moment. Okay. So maybe I should reach out to her then. Why don't you just say, hey, they picked
Starting point is 00:24:21 you. I don't even know how I'm going to get the schedule in our time that we're in Nashville. I got a fucking dinner. All right. You know, I had an interesting conversation with Mr. Shulay and an interesting conversation with Dr. Steve today. Okay. And, uh, might have found a venue to do a little comedy show later in the evening. Good.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I like that idea. Yeah. So you might see, uh, me and Mr. Shulie. I like that idea. That's cool. Dude, he put me on the phone with High Pitch Eric the other day. Uncompletely, I did not ask for this.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I walked outside and he's just like, hey, high pitch. I'm here with this guy. He's a comedian. And at Highbridge, like, are you a famous comedian? Who are these podcasts? The Holocaust wasn't real. And I said, no, you've never heard of me. You don't want to know who I am.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And I left and I walked away. Welcome to Who Are These Podcasts, White Power. All right. Here's someone who's upset with us about. Hi, this is Hi, Petjerk Eric. And you're listening to Who Are These Podcasts? Chinese people smell. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:22 All right, God. Vinny, Carl, I just listened to the latest, uh, episode of the creep off. And I got to say, I'm a tad disappointed. Don't care. You're going for the March Madness tie-in. You're going for a mad scientist or a fake doctor. Yep. And neither one of you two picked Dr. Jay. And before you say, what did he ever do that was creepy? A lot. Have you seen the fish that say Pittsburgh? There's a part in that movie where he takes a date to a playgroup. ground in his Rolls Royce
Starting point is 00:26:01 and makes her stand on the sidelines as he shoots baskets for an hour. That's a creepy motherfucker, man. But again, a little disappointed. Dr. Jay should have been the guy had I been doing the creep off. I would have warned.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Love the show. See ya. Bullshit. Dr. Jay is not a creep? What are he talking about? I don't know. I've never heard that before. I don't know, Carl.
Starting point is 00:26:28 It means to me. uh here's some more advice uh just fly regarding uh fucking a chick with a uh fake leg you always want to fuck her without the leg somebody you just had a threesome with an a club situation you just have a fifth of body weight that is just dead weight you always want to get rid of the get rid of the fake leg that also makes it easier to access everything so yeah uh beel still suck just you know always get rid of the fake leg fun this guy had a two-and-a-half sum is that what he's telling us he is hey i have another email here this one's from a lady it's from uh jenny jay she wants to know if anyone has any tips for making love to someone with club feet
Starting point is 00:27:13 so and that's the way the news goes i think that's our voice also this week great it's very good you got some music for me i certainly do because it's time for us to have a little scum parade do it because viny's a creep and Carl's a widow. I'm not kidding around. They're both a gendered psychopads with no business in a civilized society. And they're going to take you on a scum parade. What better place to start than Milwaukee?
Starting point is 00:27:51 A Milwaukee man is facing 15 felonies accused of secretly recording people inside a gym locker room using a camera hidden in a coffee cup. Can you hide a camera in a coffee cup, Vinny? Yes. Does that sound like it'd be hidden to you? How many coffee cups have wires hanging out of them? Have you ever seen that before? I've never see the coffee cup attached to a car battery,
Starting point is 00:28:12 but I don't know if I would be completely suspicious if I did. I don't know. I just imagine like the O in the Dunkin' Donuts on the logo is there's a lens coming out of it. I'm just imagining like a Betamax camera on top of a. A cop. Oh, yeah, I'm just drinking my coffee, everybody. Why is that cup of coffee plugged into a VCR? So according to a criminal complaint, a gentleman by the name of Penn Dong.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Peng Dong. Listen, man, us and Roger, we've been getting schooled on cameras by the Asians for a long time. Yes. So maybe this is the guy who did it. He's like the Asian version of Anthony Weiner. Remember when Anthony Weiner was accused of sending out dick pics? And he's like, oh, they're just doing that because my name is Weiner. Like, that was his defense on the daily show.
Starting point is 00:29:02 This is the same thing. He's just like, oh, okay, yeah, Peng Dong. I'm the one filming everyone's dick, because my last name's Dong. Just because I'm a camera expert and an engineer. Right. And very jealous of your giant fetuses. Oh, man. So the cops showed up on Christmas Eve last year for a report that a man was recording
Starting point is 00:29:22 inside the men's locker room. When officers found the coffee cop, one noted, It contained a black plastic insert with a thin red and black electrical wire, according to the criminal complaint. The officer noted the wires appeared to match the connector that was attached to the underside of the coffee cup lid. According to the complaint, Dong allegedly later told police the camera records video, which is saved on an SD card stored in the coffee cup lid. Fucking purvey genius. Yeah, right? I mean, honestly, I don't know how we didn't get Boston sooner, but.
Starting point is 00:29:52 The Wisconsin Athletic Club sent an email to members Thursday saying that, The Wisconsin Athletic Club takes the safety of their members very seriously. It is clearly stated in our clubs that the use of video is prohibited in our locker room. It is subject to the state local law. So they arrested this guy for doing this. And then they sent out a thing saying, we take no responsibility because we told everybody they're not allowed to film. Well, Dong tried to say he was filming because gym members were stealing from him. But the police said, Chad Zumach does not belong to that gym.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Chad isn't even allowed in Wisconsin. It's not even allowed in Wisconsin. So that can't be the case. Yep. sorry dong so uh let's keep moving on shall we yep carl we've been talking a lot lately about delivery drivers yeah yeah this guy is not a grubhub driver door dash driver this guy was working directly for the noid a domino's driver mhm cyrus warren 21 has been charged with three felonies in connection to various incidents between december 2021 and february 22 okay he is now a
Starting point is 00:30:52 former dominoes delivery driver and he is a registered sex offender he's been arrested in northern colorado on a slew of charges that he stalked two young girls and attempted to break into their homes he's been charged with stalking attempted first degree trespass both felonies following a series of alleged incidents uh after about a month warren reportedly began working for dominoes he had delivered a pizza to this customer's home in this apartment complex and was met by the family's young teenage daughter at the door. On December 22nd, Warren allegedly delivered another pizza to the same home. This time, the suspect was met by the family's younger daughter, whom he asked for a hug
Starting point is 00:31:30 after checking to see if her parents were home. Yeah. So far, I'm not hearing anything that's illegal. He hugged a little girl. Also, why are these children answering the door for the Domino's guy? Can an adult get the pizza? You would think that that would probably be the way to do it. I would think so.
Starting point is 00:31:48 So, hey, are your parents home? You want to give me a hug? Yeah. Fucking weird. And this is like a little kid. He hugged her and then he went away. It's fine. Yeah, but then he came back.
Starting point is 00:31:56 According to police, after allegedly picking her up, Fort Collins police said, Warren then gave the child a note offering his contact information and babysitting services. She might need babysitting services. I think this is a class act. The next day, Warren allegedly sexually assaulted an adult female victim that is believed to be an acquaintance of the suspect. Right. So in other words, see, this is where the story gets real weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Because this is a non sequitur. This has nothing to do with any. Yeah, it's just in there. He got Hansy with some chick who he knows, and she knows him well enough to go on a date with him. And then she decided that she didn't really like him that much anymore. And so she's like, oh, he got Hansy with me. No, that's not what happened.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yep. That is what happened. They agreed to hang out a specific location, Warren, picked her up, and then drove her to a different secluded location had sexually assaulted her. Right. He went to make out point is where they went, Vinnie. They went to make out point. And then she's like, your breath kind of stinks.
Starting point is 00:32:47 No, he went to a rape alley. No, no, make a point. Make out point. They're listening to the oldies station. They're trying to have a good time. I only have I. So far, the creepiest thing this guy has done is deliver Domino's pizza. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Fucking yuck. That's the only thing that I'm disappointed. The answer, criminal. He's a medist. So far. He's a hero bringing pizza to people. The victim eventually escaped and later contacted police. More than a month later on February 7th, Warren,
Starting point is 00:33:18 returned to the village garden apartments where those kids lived right this time in plain closed when the younger daughter answered the door warren asked again if her parents were home before requesting to use the bathroom so we should have for a play date the young girl denied warren entry before closing locking the door but the suspect persisted knocking on the door several more times afterward oh no he was knocking on a door lock him up god you're libertarian bullshit lock him up wow a short time later the family's tweed daughter saw the door handle moving as if someone trying to enter the home. Oh, no. He was trying to enter the home by opening the door that was locked and it didn't work. Do you not- Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch. I don't think this guy's guilty of
Starting point is 00:33:59 anything so far. He's trying to get into the house where there's just children. He needs to use the bathroom, Betty. In Tuesday's release, the victim's family later contacted Domino's about Warren's behavior. Oh, so now they're going to rat him out to his employer. Yeah, he just showed up at someone's house like can i use your bathroom and then was like persistently trying to get in banging on the door and trying the door to get in it's cancel culture this is fucking cancel culture man i lived through this i know what this is like oh let's get him fired from his job we don't like him very much it's bullshit can't go with you on this one you don't like cyrus i do not i think cyrus seems cool i do not like cyrus water that's what they learned that
Starting point is 00:34:41 warranted quit his job on December 23rd the same day he allegedly assaulted the acquaintance the police chief said they are extremely grateful and proactive they appreciate dominoes for a assist and letting him know that yeah he was there but he doesn't work for dominoes anymore he's a sex offender this guy's a convicted sex offender the suspect is shown a disturbing pattern of behavior and we won't stop until every other victim is an opportunity to seek justice the police department said if you have any information if you have been raped by a domino's pizza man you need to call detective julia chenoeth there's no shame 970 416 by Dominole's delivery man, all right?
Starting point is 00:35:16 2645 if you've been assaulted by Cyrus Warren and let me know how the pizza was. See, this is such a non-story that they even have to say, like, we don't, he didn't do anything wrong. So if he, if you know that he did something wrong, let us know because then we want to like say that he did something wrong. Dude, this story is completely creepy. This guy's a registered sex offender and Domino's hired him.
Starting point is 00:35:38 He's running around and he's asking kids to hug him. he's going back to the house as trying to get in this guy's a creep dude not buying it seems like he's a good dude seems like he's just misunderstood okay let's talk about another person who's misunderstood okay Carl how did your dad motivate you as a kid you know what he did biddies he took the braces off my legs and he threw a frisbee he said go get it did he really no I'm not the family dog you asshole did he really did he scratch you behind years that you can do it boy who's a good son not you oh you take me to the bumper and just see how fast i could go closer a new jersey dad has been charged with the murder and the death of his
Starting point is 00:36:22 six-year-old son after he allegedly forced the boy to run on a treadmill because he was quote too fat okay what listen i'm with ash here when is it too fat what is too fat come on according to the report christopher gregor 29 of monroe in middlesex county has already been charged with child endangerment in April 2021, but was arrested Wednesday on the murder wrap. Authorities have not released the name of his son, but an obituary cited the name Corey Mickelow is the name of the kid, apparently. He died April 2nd, 2021. At the time, the Ocean County Medical Examiner's Office determined that Corey died as a
Starting point is 00:36:58 result of blunt force trauma. Okay, so that has nothing to do with the treadmill. Keep going. Greger was charged with a danger of the welfare of a child on July 7, 2021, and later released from the Ocean County Jail in Tom's River. according to the news outlet, but after the additional investigation, he was arrested on a homicide charge because footage came out from the Atlantic Heights Clubhouse at the fitness center. Apparently someone had a coffee cup camera in this room. Yeah, I know. So now video's okay in the gym all of a sudden?
Starting point is 00:37:24 This is fine. Okay. Dong was there with his coffee cup camera. And this guy basically made the kid run on the treadmill. And the dad kept increasing the speed. And the kid kept falling down and like smashing his head in his chest on the. The machine. Like, he just kept face planted.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah, he was increasing the speed to the point where the kid couldn't keep up. Yeah. Now, I want to say this, Vettie. This is called being a father. Okay? Think about Tiger Woods' father. Let's say that we, let's say we had footage of what Tiger Woods' father put him through growing up. Or any, like, Olympic athlete, the training that they did as children, if you were watching
Starting point is 00:38:03 this go on, you probably say. I saw King Richard, arrest Will Smith now. You'd say the same thing. you'd be like, holy shit, this is child abuse. No, he's a creative world-class athlete. This kid's into hockey, he wants to be a goalie. The father's just trying to get him prepared for this. Well, you know, they always say that, like, nature takes care of the run and the litter
Starting point is 00:38:21 because this fucking kid couldn't handle it. He couldn't handle it. He was a little kid. He was just like six years old, and he just died. By the way, this is a New York Post article. Yeah. It's all speculation, and all the information they have on here is based on the mother. Brianna's Facebook page
Starting point is 00:38:39 I'm not even making that up everything is like and then Brie posted this and here's a photo that she posted and then she posted that I dropped my son off and now he's dad and I don't know what happened but I'm blaming the father and now the father's arrested medical experts after looking at this video they came and said yeah this is what caused
Starting point is 00:38:56 the kid's death yeah because the mom was being an uppity bitch on Facebook she would shut up about it did the guy have to make this poor kid run all day long yes the little doughy motherfuckers got to deal with this he's not even bad he's already dealing with a divorce The kid's not even fat, by the way. Listen, you saw the photos.
Starting point is 00:39:10 If your parents are dealing with a divorce, you might want to eat your feelings. You might get a little chubby for a little bit, but you'll grow out of it. You'll grow out of it. No, you won't. Not everyone does, Minnie. Look at your way, buddy. Not everyone grows out of it. Wish my parents were divorced.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Did you pick up on that, though? This is horrible reporting. It is horrible. It's literally like, and then Brie wrote on Facebook this, and then she posted this photo. And then it's like, they don't get the father's signed at all. There's no quotes from the other attorney or anything. It's just like, well, this guy's obviously did something. They don't even know what it was.
Starting point is 00:39:43 They have no idea. I really think you're a problem. We have footage from a treadmill incident, from a gym from months before this. What gets a shit? What does that mean? Carl is never going to be on a jury. Oh, no. No, I definitely will not be.
Starting point is 00:39:58 How do you feel about victim blaming? I love it. I have hours of it on tape. Do you have an iPhone? Open up Apple Podcast. Yeah. All right. So you're going to hate this last story then, don't you?
Starting point is 00:40:12 This story is rough. I don't have a lot to say about this one. Yeah. I don't have a lot to add on this one. We just talked about a creepy father. Let's talk about a creepy kid. Holy fucking shit. A lawsuit in connection with a Wisconsin girl accused of killing a baby in a daycare in
Starting point is 00:40:30 2018 has been tossed out. Now, the lawsuit was filed in December 2020, and it accused the Chippewa County Department of Human Services. services and their director, along with the foster care coordinator and Jane Doe social workers for not giving enough warning that the child was a threat to other children. So this kid was apparently in the foster care system and was also being dropped off at a daycare with other kids. Okay. Which means that this child, you know, was in the care of people who were paying someone else to watch them because they had jobs or whatever. Foster parents are just like regular
Starting point is 00:41:01 parents. Sure. And if you're foster kids, obviously don't touch them, but good on you because A lot of fucking kids need homes And it's a good thing to do What's going on right now, Vinnie? What's happened to you? Dude, I really feel for those kids, man. I feel for those kids. Jesus Christ, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:41:19 I'm your sandbagging you, you son of a bitch. Vinny, Vinny, Vinny. I feel that children without homes is a very sad topic. I thought it was the show, buy creeps, four creeps. So the case got thrown out. Yeah, by the way, if you can't sue a daycare for your baby being stopped to death there yet,
Starting point is 00:41:47 but it wasn't the daycare. She was suing the county for the county not warning them that this kid was dangerous at the daycare. Oh, I thought they were sued at the daycare. I thought that was what some of the people were. Because wasn't it where people working at the daycare they were suing? No, it was the social workers that put this kid into the foster care. Well, that sue them too. Of course you could sue them.
Starting point is 00:42:06 them the incident question occurred at a tilted licensed daycare could you please turn that the girl who's 10 years old at the time is being charged as an adult for first degree intentional homicide why is a 10 year old being
Starting point is 00:42:21 charged as adult they never explained that either what the fuck is that all about since why can you just decide to charge a 10 year old as an adult this girl went to the baby's crib yeah dropped the baby and then stomped the baby's head
Starting point is 00:42:36 yes in so hard there's shoe prints she stopped the baby's head into from 3D to 2D that's how much she stopped this baby and then she put the baby back in the fucking crib and went outside to play yeah yeah this is a psycho and no the parents of this baby
Starting point is 00:42:56 who left the baby in this daycare are like I think we should sue people they're like no you can't sue anyone for that not the county can't sue the county that's crazy I feel so bad for this father because the dad was like, listen, I'm 38 years old. I've wanted a son my entire life. I finally had a kid. You know, he's not one of these. Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch.
Starting point is 00:43:32 So they put the baby down for a nap at three people. She said the 10-year-old and two six-year-olds who attended the daycare arrived from school, played outside while the infant slept. The person who ran the daycare admitted that the children, which also included the two other two-year-olds, were in and out of the house for short periods of time while the baby slept. She also noted she spotted the 10-year-old sitting by herself close to a bay window in the kitchen on the day in question. So this kid just acted like kind of mopey, but this woman didn't check on this child. She just let the baby sleep and this kid stomped it to death. Yes, correct. It's a horrible story.
Starting point is 00:44:08 I don't really quite understand what's going on here. This 10-year-old is being charged as an adult, so we will follow this case. I don't know. What do you do with the fucking monster like this? I never want to talk about this case again. You want to follow it, go for it. I'm asking you, though, what do you do with the monster like this? Put her down.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Put her down. She's not, she's... Do they have the death penalty? Maybe. That would be interesting. They're charging with an adult. That's true. It's being charged with an adult.
Starting point is 00:44:35 could they put her to death? That'd be pretty cool. I'd sign up for that. I'd be good on this one, I think. If they put her to death, all those kids at that daycare would be like, Yeah. So the suspect is currently housed at the Northwestern Regional Juvenile Detention Center. Her case remains an adult court. That's all I know.
Starting point is 00:44:55 And there's audio from the day of the incident. Splat! Jesus Christ! I hope you enjoyed today's episode of the creep-off, everybody. I hope you had a good time. What a fun time this was today. God, don't forget. We really made up for that week that we didn't talk about child molestation or murder.
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