The Creep Off - Episode 108: Quit While You Are Ahead

Episode Date: April 12, 2022

In this special creep off exhibition match Vinnie goes head to head with Dick Masterson to discover who is the creepiest mental health professional: In the scum parade we meet a one man member of the mile high club, a couple of star wars fans and a Scottish trans infant inmate. 

Ola, Dick Masterson. What's up, Vinny? Hey, man. I'm really excited to have you on episode 108 of the creep off. Me too. Thank you. You know how important it is for me to do everyone's 108 episode? It means a lot to me.

You know who it was not important to today? Who? The creepiest of them all. Carl, it was not important to Carl today. He had other things to do. He was having a foot straightening procedure done. Oh, wow. went horrible.

Is this any indication of how quickly Carl would leave you to move up to the big leagues? It is exactly what that is. It is exactly what that is. But I like to think of it this way. I have a better co-host today. Aw. What do you say we do a creep-off, pal? Let's do it.

Let's start off with the recap from last week. Hey, everyone, Tucker Dixit. Hello? Yeah. No, I'm not paying you. The votes didn't go through. Oh, yeah, what are you going to do? Fly over from Mumbai?

Yeah, good luck with that one. Where was I? Hey everyone, Tucker Dixon here with your weekly recap. Last week was Wild Card Week, and Carl got to start us off because of his unscheduled, I mean, unexpected win. Carl's creep was Mr. Steelio Girl and your Xbox, and probably your life as well. And really anything else. He just, he really likes stealing. Vinnie's creep, on the other hand, really enjoyed cheap whiskey and child murder.

But don't worry, he was punished severely by getting near. dearly an entire month in jail for each child he killed. As for my creep, it would have to be Carl and Vinny for doing Wildcar Week. Now I can't make a funny joke about some random person that I find. I really like the attention I get from these things and I really want to draw these out for long periods of time so that people have to pay attention to me for a lot longer. Oh! Mission Accomplished.

Tucker... Out. Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm gonna deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down.

Cuckoo, cuckoo. I think no one trusts Carl, no one likes him anymore. He's a snake. He's a scumbag. Creepos. Welcome to Episode 108, joining me all the way from Los Angeles, California, from The Dick Show, and the biggest problem in the universe. It's a much better co-host than Carl. It's Dick Masterson, everybody. How you doing, everybody? Vinnie, I love how you somehow managed to make even your camera look creepy for the creep-off. I don't know if it's the lighting, or you have a creepy resolution selected, but something about it is sending shivers through my body.

well it's just my way I like to think that this is what I bring to the table when it comes to the creep off I bring the whole package the whole package camera and all you're giving track suits a bad name I don't wear track suits that elastic it cuts into my gut

doesn't make me very comfortable dude you need a onesie like they make fake onesies where that look like two articles of clothing because it folds over you need one of those I feel like this is very disrespect I'm just kidding. Dick, you can make fun of me all you want to today. I just appreciate your time. Ladies and gentlemen, before we get too far into this episode, I need to take just one second and say thank you to some people who are absolutely amazing. And we had a fundraiser last week up here in Rochester for my boss of the Carlson's nephew who has ewing sarcoma in his brain, Dick. And it's not the kind that helps you get rebounds and put up 22 a game. It's a bad.

it's a bad type of uing sarcoma is not patrick ewing's sarcoma is that what you that's what that's what decade are we in what how old is this audience that they get patrick ewing oblique references roughly our age dick roughly our age so is this how you start a comedy show like a thanks for uh like jerry's kids i'm gonna i want to i want to i want to i'm gonna let everybody laughing me about something a lot of people donated cash to this thing it was very very cool of them So thank you to everybody who did. You know who you are. And I went to the fundraiser dick.

And I was really excited to go to this because they had like a silent auction deal. And I slapped down a bunch of money on something. And I got it. Check this out. You're going to laugh your ass off at me. Okay. This is what I got. Something like a vacation home or something.

No, I got this autograph picture of former WWE superstar Lou Carper, A.W superstar, God rest, his soul, Brody Lee, who was a friend of mine. He used to come to the club all the time. He was a great guy, and he died very young. And I put a lot of money down to get this picture. How much did you put down? I'm not going to say the number, because it was

for charity. But I would put you this way. After I got this, I went, looked at it, it's fake. Oh, no. Oh, no. It doesn't have a certificate of authenticity? No certificate. No certificate. Oh.

So who am I going to get mad at? It's for charity. Somebody donated it. They're like, here, you can have this fucking picture in this shitty frame. We're running low on items for our charity auction. These WWE idiots will buy anything, though. That is accurate, sir. That is very accurate. My dad did one of those. It was like a charity thing. And he, um, he, um, he silent bid on what he thought was a signed poster of the water boy, because me and my sister were big Adam Sandler fans and water boy fans

when we were kids. So he brings it home and he's like, check this out, the water boy. We look at the signature and it's Kathy Bates. Some would argue that's slightly better. She had some good seeds. Irony hadn't, irony wasn't big in like as 98 as it is now.

It's appreciated though. Yeah, so either I just want to say thank you to all you creepos who donated. And we're going to do a contest. But before we do, I want to explain that today's episode is a bit of an exhibition. We're going head to head and we're going to do a creep off. But it's going to be just for the bragging rights because I think he's up for the challenge and I'm up for the challenge. So this is to be very exciting.

I let you pick the category, Dick. Yeah, it's something I'm intimately familiar with. I have a lot of experience with these particular type of creeps. So I figured to take it down to what I know. If I'm coming in, you know, unfamiliar with the show in the format. I know you guys, though. I don't think you could create a show together that's very different than talking about, arguing about weirdos and gross stuff and making fun of people. So I feel like I kind of get it already, just knowing you.

Yeah, walking into this, I feel like you probably have a better grasp than most. But today's category, ladies and gentlemen, is mental health professionals, therapists. people that we give our minds to to help fix. They're creeps. Elron Hubbard had it right. They're all creeps. They are inherently creepy. They are.

They're like use car salesmen for your emotions, right? And I think they just get you in that room for an hour and train you on how to sell their services to your friends, like an Amway scam. Yeah, I don't know. I've never really been to therapy, which is why I could do this show so willy-nilly. Everybody walks out of there and like, oh, you guys. got to go to therapy. You got to go to therapy. But my thing is, I don't know. I know how good most people are at their jobs, which is bad. And like you go in to get, you go to anything at like big box store or even go to get your oil changed and you're lucky if they don't unscrew all

your tires. So you're telling me that therapists are good? I don't think so. It's a solid point. That is a very solid point. They're like, hey, you know, we have a, I wrote a book. They have all sorts of add-ons, like they're practically trying to sell your air fresheners with their shitty books that they wrote. Yeah. Like, here's my book. It's all your fault. And, you know, just by looking at you, they probably already have an idea of where you're fucking up. I'm like, oh, man, look at this guy. They're like carnies. They could read a mark. Like, guess my weight? Yeah. They're like, oh, this one? Cigarettes, alcohol. I walk in. Alcohol, overeating. All sorts of problems.

Unfixable. Delicious. It's a cash cow. Would you like to buy a copy of my book? Only I can fix you. It's great. So these people, they are in a weird business. And I got to tell you, the people who get into it, it surprises me that not more of them are being arrested on a daily basis. Because I read a statistic while I was researching this.

And it said that, like, you are six times more likely to be raped out of a sit there. office in like a dark alley. So they need body cams? Is that what you're saying? Well, you don't want your shit getting out there. No, that's true. Do they take notes? I wouldn't want that shit happen.

Like, do they have to take notes on everybody they're interviewing, but then they're storing all about all your gay dreams and just a file cabinet in their office or what? Here's Dick's Dick file. Right here. It's like Scientology. That's why they have you. You don't want to stop paying.

somebody that knows all your deepest murderous, murderiest fantasies. Yeah, I can't argue with that. I can't argue with that. So here's, we're going to do the competition. Creepiest mental health professional. We got to do start this off, right? Let's crumble! So, Dick, do you want to go first or second?

I'll go second. You'll go second? Okay, well, I'm going to start this off today because my creep. His name is Dr. Harvey Lothringer. this guy was a Princeton graduate the year we're going to be discussing today is 1962 that's where the bulk of this incidents happened okay okay he was a very successful general medical practice doctor so he's not even a psychiatrist yet okay he's just a general doctor he lives in this gorgeous 13 bedroom house in jamaica

states queens right such a nice neighborhood dick his neighbor is fred trump oh wow Yeah, like this is a nice statement. It doesn't get any better than that. Yeah. And the reason why this guy has got so much money is because I don't know if you know this, in the early 60s, you can make a lot of money in medicine, baby. You can make a lot of money in medicine, especially if you're running an illegal abortion clinic.

Yeah. I learned dirt from this article that this guy in 1962 was getting 500 bucks a scalp. Oh, God. Was you making him too? Nope, nope, no, no. No. No. while he's in there, you know?

No, he wasn't making him. He was just taking them out and reaping all the benefits. He's living, like, in the nicest part of town in New York. 500 bucks? Yeah, in 1960s. Yeah, man, it was completely illegal. Oh, God. Enter June 1962, and a girl named Barbara.

She's a 19-year-old college student. She informed her parents that she was pregnant, and the baby's father proposed marriage. But Barbara's parents, Dominic and Rose, La Fremento thought this was not a wise choice. They were Italians. They're my people. They're just like, no daughter of mine's going to be a whore. I'll slap that baby out of you.

That's the only way I can remember your last name. I'm like, it's, oh, it's Vinnie Italian. I know it's Italian. Is it Delpino? Is it? I got to look it up every time. That's all right. I mean, Giz Waldy's probably an easier Italian name to remember.

But whatever. This lady, her parents start looking around for a reputable back alley abortion. Okay. You know, if you're going to go somewhere, you can go to Jamaica Estates. If you go to the nice place, that's ready to go.

You're going to pay for what you get. So these people put down their 500 bucks. They made a deal with Lothringer, and they brought him to his house at 3 a.m. Okay. So this guy... That's when they do their best work, at 3 in the morning.

Apparently, he found out that he was being investigated by the police already for being part of, like, a citywide abortion ring. Okay. So the cops are already investigating this guy. He knows it.

He tells him, bring her over 3 a.m., bring her in through the back door. Maybe she should have gone through the back door. He wouldn't be in the situation. But bring her in, and we're going to get this all taken care of for you. So they bring her at 3 a.m. They leave the mother in the waiting room with his secretary, who is also his 24-year-old girlfriend. Of course. Okay.

Her name is Teresa Carrillo. It's 5 a.m. before me too man we were having it we were having a ball before all this me too shit you know dude if you were a doctor at the 60s uh who who you were fucking killing pussy so speaking of killing pussy let's get back to barbara so he tells the mother no that barbara's all right she just needs some oxygen so the mom's still sitting out there going i hope she's okay i hope she's okay then he comes out around seven o'clock and says hey listen I might have to take her to the hospital because she's having some issues and I don't know what we're going to be able to do to fix this, but I might have to take her up there.

She's okay. It's not a, it's not a big deal. He killed the wrong one. Is that what you're going to? No. She just came out alive and he killed the mom. She died on the table, dick. And so during this time, he's trying to like make this mom feel comfortable like, oh, your daughter's okay.

your darters are okay. Oh, she's dead. But meanwhile, in the back, he's just. Like, what do I do? What do I do? What do I fucking do? So he keeps just trying to stall tide with this mom. Okay.

He's just like, listen, here's what you're going to do. I'm going to take her to the hospital. I'm going to take care of her in a minute her. You can come back and get her later today. Why don't you just go back to the train station, meet up with your husband, go home, and I'll get in contact with you later. So this lady does that She leaves She goes to Grand Central Station

She meets the husband He picks her up But instead The couple waited the entire afternoon Just there at the train station They were so worried They go back to the guy's house And there's no one there

They have no idea where he is He left No side of this guy There's the house still there His patients are waiting outside They're just like hey I had appointment with the doctor Where is this guy?

Oh no The parents are freaking out They don't know where their daughter is They know that they did this medical procedure She was having problems She's gone They waited several more hours Then they went home

Then they went to bed Then they woke up the next morning Still nothing from this guy Then they called the police And reported her missing Now remember this is a really nice house Oh no What of his housekeepers

Had called a plumber About a clog drain at the house Because they found the toilet all backed up and it partially flooded one of the bathrooms so they couldn't find the doctor guy it's like doing david's the house so they call a plumber over the worker finds the source of the problem uh when he looked at the toilet he saw like human teeth in there oh there were pieces of bone he chopped this woman up oh in one inch pieces I'm not shitting you. He just spent all day doing it? He spent all night and all day chopping this woman up and flushing her and putting her down the garbage disposal.

He used the power saw on the bones. Where did he get this idea? This was plan A for him? What do you think is happening here? I mean... He didn't... This guy's running around. I need the power saw

Tell the bombs He's going to the hospital He's everything good guys And he's running out and telling him You know what I might have a problem with this one And then running back in And just stuffing her down the toilet

Kicking it in the plungeer Working So This guy calls the cops The plumber calls the cops The cops show up Like yeah those look like human teeth This is very weird

So they start excavating the sewer Within 24 hours They start finding pieces of her drive they start finding all sorts of stuff you didn't have to flush the dress you could have just burn that yeah that might have been a good move but uh they did find the baby he didn't do too much the baby was in there which was good in the sewer so now they have enough to arrest this guy obviously but they can't find him let me tell you what this motherfucker did the the secretary his girlfriend tells the cops after they catch him that they took a train

to Detroit. They took a taxi across the Canadian border, had a plane take them to Montreal, then they flew to Paris, they traveled by rail to Barcelona. When they got caught three months later, the doctor, the

receptionist were living in a rented apartment in Andorra, a country I have never heard of before. That's somewhere between Spain and France. They had no extradition to the U.S. So they have to extradite the guy to France, and then France sends him back. Now, how did they get caught?

How do you get caught in the 60s without the, like, what do you just, are you using the same name? I don't know, man. Did he have a birth mark in the, in the shape of a rapist on his forehead? How do you get caught in another country back then? I don't know, but this guy was busted. And I mean, I don't even think you have credit cards. It's a lot hard. It's a good point.

Yeah. Either way, he was not good at hiding. So let me ask you something. You can look out for someone shady, like, I think that guy's, that's when everyone was like suspecting everybody of anything. That guy looks kind of shady. I think he may have flushed a woman down a toilet once. Yeah.

So if you are the DA in this case, what are you charging this man with? God. Abortion? Okay. Desecration of a corpse? Sure. A desecration of a dress? Yep. Stealing teeth?

Sure. I don't know. Murder? How about murder? Murder? Yeah. I'm going to read to you a fun article that I found today from 1964 in the New York Times. The media was so different back that dick. It was so different. Harvey N. Northringer,

the Queen's physician, accused of abortion in first degree manslaughter in the death of a young woman in his office in 1962, was allowed to plead guilty to second degree manslaughter yesterday to cover all 31 criminal charges pending against him.

The surprise move in criminal terms of Queen's Supreme court came almost two years after the dismembered body of a 19-year-old Barbara Lafermento of Pelham was found in a sewer near his home. I think they got the facts a little wrong there. During the luncheon,

recess, his attorney, Maurice Edelbaum, proposed the district attorney Frank Ketchetori that his client plead guilty to second degree manslaughter. After a conference with Queens District Attorney, they agreed. And they figured, you know what, this will save us a three-week trial.

So they let him plead guilty. to second degree manslaughter, they said that he would get like one to 15 years. So they set up a sentencing date. The parents show up. They're wearing all black. I mean, Dick, this could be a movie scene, what is described here. On the day of the sentencing, the parents ran late. They arrived to the courtroom just after this hearing concluded.

Reporters informed them that Lothringer had received a term of just two to eight years, which would make it eligible for parole in just 16. months. Well, you know, Vinnie, look, doctors make mistakes. Yeah, but you're not supposed to float. You're supposed to own up to them, not flush people down toilets. Well, at this point, does it really matter? Mistakes were made.

This isn't really an up-and-up kind of operation. Certainly not, no. So maybe he was hoping to replace the daughter with one that looked like her at the hospital. That would be right. This is your 19-year-old daughter. Like the family dog, you know, you come home. It's like the maid from a family guy. No English.

Sometimes when you're having an abortion, your body gets all messed up, your hair changes color, you can't remember things. Like English. Yeah. After four years in prison in 1968, he gets paroled. His first petition to restore his medical licenses denied, but he tried again and was successful. He got his license back, but he decided that his days as a family doctor were over.

So he decided that maybe the best thing for him to do would become a board-certified psychiatrist. Okay. So by 1978, Lothringer somehow landed a job as a psychiatrist at the West Chester County Jail. So he's a jail psychiatrist. No wonder the recidivism rate in fucking New York is so goddamn high. They had this lunatic in charge of the mental health of prisoners. Is it good to have a criminal psychologist, though? Like, does he get some kind of cred if they're not listening to them, work on their anger issues?

She says, look, I know, I get it. I chopped a woman into little McNuggets and tried to flush her down the toilet. So you can talk to me. Like whenever? I get you. Right? He pulls the chair out backwards and sits at it. It's like, hey, guys.

Yeah. I want to reach out to you. You see these teeth? I pulled these out of a woman's head. He just drops them on the dog. slowly one at a time, bling, bling, blink,

I like to think that no, he was a little rougher. He would be like, oh, you guys want to fuck with me, and then he'd just look at them and then just flush the toilet with his foot.

Just to give a little scare. Because they're bullying the last psychologist. Like, it's like danger, what is that movie with Culeo and Michelle Pfeiffer? Dangerous minds. Dangerous minds. Like, we got a bunch of recidivist

convicts. You got to come in and psychoanalyze them. We have just a guy for it. At the age of 70s. years old in 1996 he was forced to retire when the prison was sued by the family of a 13 year old

girl who hug herself in their custody after our buddy Harvey without consulting anyone took her off all of her medication for some reason he just said no more meds for this girl and she fucking hug herself

like within a day she probably called him fat or something He's like, oh, yeah? I'll show you fad. There goes all your fucking Benzos, bitch. The lawyers for this prison were like, well, we're going to have to defend this. Like, oh, who's the doctor? Wait, what?

No, we're going to settle this and who hired him? Like, oh, he's been here since 78. Old Harvey, he's fine. Oh, the abortionist? Yeah, he's fine. Holy shit. That is my creep this week. The creepiest therapist.

I mean, could you imagine going to get psychological counseling from a man who flushed a woman down the toilet, ladies and gentlemen. Dr. Harvey Lothrigger is my creep this week. I can't believe that his contingency plan for a death on the operating table was so bad. The worst plan I've ever seen. Like it's smart for a doctor, but it's maybe he just should have consulted a plumber, right? Like he had it all figured out on how to cut the body up because of his doctoring, but he didn't understand how the plumbing worked.

I like to think that he was like McCoy from Star Trek. God damn it, I'm a doctor, not a plumber. Dick, you're up, buddy. Who is your creepiest mental health professional, sir? Okay, I got, um, well, I don't know if I could compete with the guy that's, uh, chopping women up and flushing them down toilets. It's, it's extra creepy because it's a toilet. Like, if you had just chopped a woman up and fed her to some pigs or something, it wouldn't be as creepy, but sitting there flushing one at a time. Could you imagine being the secretary during this? Having to pretend that you're taking a shit and then, what are you doing? in there, oh, you know, making sounds.

Like, ah, dinner's just getting, going right through me. Just slipping and sliding out blood. All right. Okay, I've got the guy. We're all big fans of, you know, sexual identity and the biology of gender. Big fan of it.

You know how we have this word gender that means something different than sex for some reason that happened kind of suddenly? I don't know. I don't remember when it happened. I'm like, oh, they're different. All right. Well, this is the guy who came up with it. Interesting. Yeah, there's a guy who came up with it. He was a psychologist, a sexologist,

an author known for his research into sexual identity, and the biology of gender. He wrote the book, Fuckology. Sexy. Yeah, that gives you any kind of idea of how fast and loose this guy. That sounds about as good as, that sounds about as good as any other thing. therapist's book, to be honest with you, slightly better. So he pioneered, I think, the field of the aggressive... Fuckology. Creepy, yeah, creepy therapist. This guy was sitting there, he's, you know what?

Why don't we just beat total creeps about everything and invalidate, violate the trust that humanity's placed in it upend 2,000 years of medical trust that we have, totally destroy it with people? he came up with paraphilia, the term, and most of his research goes into that. But there's one incident I want to tell you about specifically. All right. Because he was also a fraud, Vinnie. And all of his...

The guy who just made up a million different genders out of nowhere was not on the up and uptick. Turns out, yes, turns out there was some malfeasance in this research. I'm going to tell you this story. uh his most famous case was of uh of david reamer born bruce reamer who was born uh and he was he was circumcised at eight eight months old and it they botched it and it left him without a penis which you could you know i actually have audio of the moyle oh boy that was him you could imagine so eight you got an eight month old baby I don't know how badly, I don't know how badly you have to botch a circumcision to cut it completely off. But it's a good argument against circumcisions, if I'm honest.

Like, there's zero risk of accidentally trapping your dick off if you just don't get a knife anywhere near it. Oh, I have a better argument why you should be against circumcisions. Because it's just something the Bible tells you to do. How about that? Okay, so John Money It's not even like the New Testament That's old testament shit What are you people doing?

John Money persuades the baby's parents That sexual reassignment surgery Is the answer to this So he says the baby The kids got no dick Did nobody try glue it back on? Did I try that? They didn't have the strong

They didn't have gorilla glue yet it wasn't invented until the 70s uh so 1966 1960 he goes hey your son's got his dick chopped off let's just raise him like a girl they're all they're all babies are the same boys girls gender doesn't matter let's raise him as a girl uh let's whack the rest of his package off his testicles let's turn everything inside out and give him a vagina we're going to change his name from bruce to brenda and you guys will just treat him like a girl and it's it'll be totally fine, right? Sounds like a good plan, right?

I could see some holes. I could see a couple holes in this. Give him some hormone treatment. He's going to be fine. We're all just a bunch of skin and holes anyway. So he'll, you know, kids are, they can roll with anything. I can't argue with that part. So he published all this as a huge success.

And he built his career in this idea of gender fluidity and reassessing. on this case that he called a huge success but as it turns out we found out much later that things got a little goofy so during during appointments with with this kid that they turn into a girl and the kid's twin brother uh john money would force the two to rehearse sex acts with the gender swapped kid with the trans uh a woman or little girl acting like a bottom roll while the brother grinded dry humped him with his working penis but still

prepubescent penis. Can I just play girls basketball? I'd rather play girls basketball than this. So this is a pretty big crime already. Yeah. For that poor child.

Added element of it being identical to, you know, you always say like, wow, wouldn't it be great to have an identical twin? All the pranks that we could play on people, like, swapping in and out and driving me. He took them and made, for some reason, made them perform

boy girl sex acts on the boy as the trans girl. He kept doing this for years. Can you really call someone a trans person if they had no saying? in the matter? I don't know. I don't know. That was his theory. So for several years, he kept going and they referred to it as the John Joan case. And they touted it as a big success for female gender development, using it to support the feasibility of sex reassignment.

So this went on for years until it was uncovered. And it was uncovered way later. Like the damage, the damage had been done for decades. The success of this program had spread around for decades. So at 14, the boy developed schizophrenia. And the parents decided that they should tell the, Brenda, the trans daughter, what they had done. Because they were instructed. You're not schizophrenic. We're just terrible parents.

It's all right. You can settle down now, Brenda. All right. You might have, look, we have something to tell you that might answer a lot of questions. Like, why you are playing with trucks and why the kids at school call you a cave girl, cavewoman, and why you hate wearing dresses. And why you got inward boners? I don't know if that's the thing. It's got to be. Let's see here, his case, David Reamer's case came to international attention in 1997. So this is 30 years this guy was perpetrating this lie of gender reassignment when it was told to an academic sexologist who persuaded Reamer to allow him to report the outcome in order to dissuade physicians from treating other infants similarly. So this guy was a big proponent, John Money, of.

a very early child sex reassignment surgery. Wouldn't a real psychologist just try to help the child with a mutilated penis feel better about themselves? Isn't that what like therapy is supposed to be? Yeah. You know, it was risky because you could imagine that if it had worked, it would be cool, right? Wow, it's a good thing you did that. I feel great, actually. I don't feel like a boy with balls and no dick. I just feel like a woman. And then we would never have heard the story.

Yeah. Yeah. There'd be a lot more babies getting swabbed at birth by now. Let me see here. Oh yeah. On July 2002, Brian was found dead from an overdose of antidepressants. Uh-oh. Which if you're, if that happens to one of your patients as a psychiatrist, you really, you really are bad.

not good right anti-depressants specifically that's like that's what you're racing against I found a website

by the way I'm sorry I didn't I didn't mean interrupt you I found a website when we were researching this

that was basically just like bad therapists and just lists of therapists and all the shit they've been convicted of

so many people get in trouble for just misdiagnosing and prescribing people the wrong way it's a big fucking deal

I believe it I mean what do they have to go off. If they don't have any actual tools to use, like an x-ray, it's like imagining the rest of medicine a hundred years ago. And there's like, I mean, I don't know. Maybe you're depressed. Maybe you're a woman.

We don't really have. All we have still is just questions and you lying to us about everything your parents did to you. That's unbelievable. Dr. Money, huh? Dr. Money. David,

the sex change one. committed suicide by shooting himself in the head with a sawed-off shotgun. That's kind of ironic, isn't it? It's like 10,000 spudes. You think he, was he aware of the irony as you think he's like a comedian and set that up? Or was he aware of it as he was pulling the trigger at all? I think the irony went right through his head. Reamer's parents, they said that Money's methodology was responsible for the death of their sons.

Can you imagine that? And Money has argued, instead of saying, oh yeah, that was fucked, that I did that, as well as being illegal. Money, the psychologist, has argued that the media response to his expose was due to right-wing media bias. in the anti-feminist movement. Yeah, so that's the reason. The reason people are so upset, according to the doctor of psychology, is Trump, basically. What makes me question that argument, sir, is the fact that most trans people don't want to be raped by their brother. Do you think?

It's not a good argument, sir. It's not a good argument. Even if the trans part would have worked, I would think that the forced incest would be in a problem. Like, I think you messed up your own experiment when you started adding that into the mix. Yeah, sometimes scientists, man. They get ahead of themselves. Yeah, they do. They get excited.

Premature celebration, right? I'm like, okay, that was awesome. Well, let's see. Now let's see if the incest thing that I wanted to get going. Let's see how she fucks. Let's see. intersex activists also criticized the guy for making them

look bad, I think. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's a case that probably should be cited more often. Well, right? Right? Because everybody's talking trans all the time, but nobody's ever going like, hey, you know the guy who came up with that?

Was like a weird pedophile? Anybody? So you're telling me that like the whole trans thing, the whole trans movement started from like a Reese's peanut butter cup accident. This guy slipped the knife. It's like, you got chocolate by peanut butter. You got peanut butter by chocolate.

Look at what we have now. Yeah. But there's no reporting on how the Moyle felt about the botched circumcision. But yeah, this whole, this whole nightmare that we're dealing with every day is all a result of

these poor kids that both killed themselves. So what's this guy's name Dr. Money? What a bad ass name. That's Probably why he thought he could get away with it. That's like, that's a heel's name right there. Dr. Money. Dr. Money. What's up?

I love it. So, uh, ladies and gentlemen, you could vote this week at the creepoff.com. You could either vote for, uh, Dr. Lothringer, or you could vote for Dr. Money. And, uh, we will find out the results on next week's episode of the Creepoff. So, uh, make sure you do that. Dick, you want to hear, uh, do some voicemails with me, buddy? Absolutely. All right.

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creep-up. America's number one anti-Russian podcast. If you are Russian, you should kill yourself. Jesus Christ. Some are Carl's laughing really hard at that. Okay, I'll give you a little

backstory on this next one. A guy called it last week, and he had sent me a picture that his mother has framed in the house of her and Jared Fogel. Does she know what happened? Oh, she knows, but she's just like, it was still such a magical day. I met a celebrity.

And this kid sent me a picture, and I cried, and I cried, and I cried. Laughing, laughing, laughing. She looked like... Does anybody get a trigger warning when they come in the house? Like, hey, you don't have any... Nobody molested you, right? Okay, come on in. Something in this house might be upsetting for you.

Dick, she looked so happy in the picture, too. Just big smile. Like, oh, a celebrity! Well, she's in no danger. No, yeah, that's true. So here is a voicemail of somebody who has him topped, apparently. So you're talking about this guy's mom and a picture of her with Jared. I don't have a copy of this photo, but a family member by a soon-to-be marriage,

her family owns Subways. And there is a picture of her as like an eight-year-old girl standing next to Jared. smile love you fucking mind what a momento of a fun day at the sandwich shop oh wow is he getting is he getting a nice sniff of that freshly baked bread that she's got going on that guy we did a whole bonus episode on him did you know that he turned his dorm room into like a porn rental store he was just buying so much pornography in college oh wow he would rent it out to people like the big tapes the big tape packages that you used to have. DHS buddy. And then his apartment, then his dorm room, he got too fat for his dorm

room and he had to move off campus. And that's how he subsidized himself was renting porto tapes. And then he lost weight from eating subway sandwiches. Like, look at this hero. Do you think they vet guys like that more now? Like, do you think maybe question number one is like, are you a pedophile? Um, they show him like a picture of a girl in a bikini and then a picture of a little boy with a lollipop. It's like, which one of these pictures do you prefer? All right, we got one from a listener. Here we go. Hey, guys.

So my bad, I forgot to vote again, and I feel like a dick. I usually feel like pizza or ice cream, so this is kind of a weird feeling. Anyhow, I'd like to cast my boat for Vinny. Brought a Better Creek. That was pretty fucking gross. I'm ready for a comment, you guys. This podcast has fucking ruined me. So anyhow, if you could give me a favor and just call me every Sunday and ask me who I'm voting for and you guys do the math and all that shit, that way we know every vote counts, that'd be fucking great.

Anyhow, I love you, fuck you, um, eat your vegetables. No, it will not, sir. You're not the boss of me. Fuck you. All right. Well, thank you for the vote. It doesn't really count. If you want to leave a voice off of the show, the number is 585-371-80808.

and we're always there to listen and if you had your penis chopped off by a moyle way too short please call us and let us know how that went for you quit while you're ahead don't try fixing it you know I think the name of this episode is going to be quit while you're ahead

I think you just named it you're going to have a lot of guys coming around giving you crazy fixes for your chopped off penis but just sleep on it I think the most important lesson that we forget that's so prevalent in society these days is just be you yeah just be you with you little mingled weeder own it exactly right own it are you ready for a scub berate dickmaster said yes absolutely

i love these all right driving children oh pitos dittling judebaggerers rake the sewer rink lily ray so you see your paths of you abusive ass hats Gather some parade Scum parade On the creep Oh,

Scrum parade Oh, Skum parade Who Carla and Vinny are back Oh Oh Well, how do I start this off? Our first guy

I mean this guy was a real jerk He really was. Did you read these stories? stories I sent you, Dick? I did. Okay. Well, a passenger at a Southwest Airlines flight pulled his pants down and masturbated four times on a three-hour flight from Seattle to Phoenix.

I feel like that's a lot. Yeah, we were talking about this on my show yesterday, and I don't know if it's to completion or if it's like, it's like Loki's Wager. Like, when does it count as a time masturbating? Hands-on versus hands-off time? so once your hand hits that's a time and if your hand comes off that's no more that it's a new time grabbing your dick i don't think we have a science for this but i think that's probably the closest thing like if he's like yep okay i'm done for a while and he just like lays back and that goes

back to it does it have to go flaccid again like is there an engorgement percent ratio that it has to cross below before it's and then it's hands off and then it's a different time if you go again you know what i'm saying i do i don't know what the what the metric is if somebody knows Like if you put on clean underwear at night, you could put them back on in the morning and then wear them for the whole day. But you can't wear them for a whole day and then put them on again in the morning and wear them for half a day. Right. Correct. It's got to be, and we need a beat-off rule system if we're going to have stories like this. I don't think we do. I think we could just laugh at this guy.

His name is Antonio McGarrity. I like that. He sounds like an Italian Irishman. Very drunk, very romantic. So he gets arrested with the flight landed April 2nd to Phoenix. Harbor International Airport, and according to a criminal complaint first obtained by the Daily Beast, McGarney admitted to masturbating multiple times on the flight. I think they may have gone by his number, Dick. I think they may have just gone like, how many times did you masturbate?

So he's like, I don't know, three or four. So that's like when you get pulled over by a cop. Like, how many drinks of you had tonight? Like, I had two or three when you've had like eight. So he must have been jerking off the entire flight. Yeah, this guy did not stop. So he did it in front of a woman sitting next to him. Like, he had no shame in his game.

The FBI investigator said to complain. The woman said McGarty pulled his pants down early in the flight and masturbated four times in the first hour. So she takes a picture of him doing this to show the police. And after he fell asleep, she asked the flight attendant to move to a different seat. I would have led with that. You didn't think about maybe after the first time he did it to move seats? Was she paralyzed?

Did he have like a weird looking dick or ginger pubes or something? and she just stared at it, transfixed. McGarity claimed that the woman said it didn't matter to him if he masturbated, and he found that kind of kinky. I believe that. I believe that she did lead him on. You think that she was like, all right, go for it? Yeah, she's like, oh, I didn't know what to say.

So I said, yeah, absolutely. And what do you know, he did? This is like Louis C.K. all over again. Yeah, except this guy isn't going to win a Grammy. This guy isn't going to win shit. I like to think that she was like, sir, could you not do that? And he was just, I don't care, I don't care. Just said, I stick and a good old time.

And either way, he's arrested. You don't get to do this. You don't get to do that. You think you can get away with that? Without having legal ramifications, you're out of your fucking mind. Stuttering John's making a lot of sense today. I should do more stuttering John drops when Carl's here, not when Dick's here.

Got it. Check. So did the woman, did she want to switch places to throw someone else under the bus? Or did she tell them that he's beating off? I got to get away from it. Because that's kind of like, it was like a line at the peep show. People were like waiting and she had to move to get the next guy there turned next to him.

And she's taking video. how do you discreetly take a video of somebody jerking off? Is he I guess he's distracted? Why are we using the term discreet in this story at all? There is no discretion. You're just right there filming like you motherfucker.

You show me that dick. Well, I mean, dude, if she's, if he's fucking sitting there whipping it out, what's he going to say when you pull out your camera? No, don't look. Is that what he's going to do? I think this is a new ad campaign from Southwest, honestly, where they're just

generating fake stories about people. about sex crimes being stopped aboard their aircraft? Or maybe it's done by JetBlue. I think this was a Southwest Airlines flight. And if this is the case, if they let you just masturbate, I will buy that extra seat. Yeah.

My fat ass will pay for two seats. All right, let's go down to Mobile Alabama, shall we? A $500,000 bond is set for a Mobile Alabama man who police say killed another man by hitting him over the head with a shovel and a pipe. Oh. Not a good thing

to do. Prosecutors on the case told a judge at a bond hearing, they believe the assault might have been racially motivated. The attacker was white, the victim was black. Morgan Daniel Barnhill 27 originally told the officers in the Mobile Police Department, he struck a man because he thought an unknown burglar was

breaking into his shed on March 29th. Okay. Well, the authorities say the investigation pretty swiftly uncovered. The man knew who the person was. He bashed to the head with two sharp and heavy objects. It was his neighbor. A 25-year-old black man.

An officer close to the case said through the investigation was determined that the alleged victim intentionally misled the officers about an attempted burglary. And they discovered several inconsistencies in his statement when it's starting. They determined that he filed a false police report claiming an unknown man was attempting to break into his shed. So he knew the family. He knew the guy very, very well. Yeah. And apparently they've had barbecues together. the guy's been over to the house.

You were making it illegal to kill your neighbors now? That should be, you should get a mulligan on that. Like why significant others, wives, husbands, neighbors, okay, those, that's fine. But anybody else, you can't kill anybody else. Yeah. You know? In this particular case, I will give the Mobile Alabama Police Department a little bit of credit. They actually did investigate it.

They did just take this guy in his word. I go. oh he was breaking in was he well good job like high five throw the guy in the fucking in the back of the hearse set about out of here they at least investigated it but uh the victim's mother said that apparently there was a argument over someone had a purse that was missing and this guy blamed her son and invited him over to come talk about it and then killed him and fucking beat him over the head with the fucking shovel come on over and talk about that purse I'm in the shed and then he locks the shed and he's like oh shit there's a guy trying to get into my shed well the perfect crime shocking this guy remains incarcerated because he didn't have enough money to meet bail oh yeah so this dick heads in prison now dick when the last time we did a show together was when we were in chicago and uh when we did the live show we talked about an illinois man who got in trouble very close to where we were like two blocks away from the

venue oh really do you remember this no well i have an update on it so here's the story folks this guy named michael lelko 45 he's being formally charged with two felony counts of concealment of death okay the remains of his mother jean lelko she's 79 and jennifer lelko his sister were discovered back in august while we were in chicago right around the quarter in the family's suburban backyard there was a welfare check done by the state because the place was such a fucking disaster that they didn't have doors that worked.

There were two brothers that lived there. They had to go in through the windows to get in it out of the house. This is starting to sound familiar. Apparently, Gene and Jennifer were probably the ones keeping this family together. But they found their bodies buried in plastic tubs

that they wrapped with duct tape. Now, no one knows. Did they get them nice tubs at least? Dude. The best tubs. It's his mother. They got wheels on them. The ones you could stack.

The ones that are like they look like they stack. Yeah. I like to think that it's the ones where they just didn't have the matching lids. That's why they had to do the duct tape on it. The lids match. The lid says rubber made and the tub says hefty. No, they don't. Fucking bullshit.

In the ground, mom. So sad state of affairs is that Michael had been allegedly cashing his mom's monthly social security checks for years. Now, the two siblings have allegedly stated that Jennifer had killed Gene by pushing her down the stairs in 2015. Then they claimed that Jennifer died from COVID-19 in 2019. Okay. So-convenient. Jennifer killed mom, put her in the rubber made tub, put her outside, and then COVID got her. And so we just gave her the same treatment.

Is that true? That's what they're claiming. But how can anybody know? Yeah. Either way, this cat. What a loss. Oh, fucking G to Jed. Helping the flowers grow.

I mean, that's got to be like, how could you not want to hide the corpse of somebody getting social security, though? You got to at least give it a shot. Yeah. And I mean, when you, right, when you just make. the body disappear like that. The checks keep coming. Yeah, this is, uh, yeah, exactly. So maybe not, so you can't cut them up and flush them down the toilet. You can't put them in, no, no, you can. I found that out. You absolutely can, but you have to have a really nice house. These people did not have that. In fact, here's a fud story, they said. When they were on the property trying to find

these bodies, they said that these two exhibited severe hoarding behavior. When officers found Jean and Jennifer's remains last year, they noted piles of objects stacked to the ceiling of the home. feces and urine in bags and no working toilets the associated press specify some of the objects at the house were star wars toys so yeah they're fucking got their lightsabers out and they're just fucking chasing each other around shit and piss it in bags they're pretending they're on like tattooing in the scrap you just fucking run around and filth these two day go bah we're in the swamp climbing around how does a toilet stop working Have you ever had, like, a toilet that just ceases to function? I've had a couple toilets that weren't happy with me. Yeah. And I don't think I've ever had. Yeah.

I don't think I've ever had one go on strike. Like, you pull off the top, I guess, and reattach the chain, worst case scenario. Yeah, they don't really break unless, like, you actually break them. You're a big, fucking fat piece of shit. You break it. But you're trying to flush Star Wars toys down to do something, I guess. It's the new Starland. my bowl of fat got stuck

but hold on a second here I watched an episode of hoarders where this one guy was living in this house that didn't have a bathroom that worked at all and like the tub was filled with like brown liquid and the toilet was just looked like chocolate moose was just filled to the top

it was absolutely disgusting I love that show I love how angry they get when they throw all their shit away it's so funny don't you understand i need that r2d3 i need that one for my collection yeah i need those fingernails it's covered in shit

it's not clear if either brother has an attorney but they are officially being charged with uh social security fraud and that's what they're getting for because they don't know what had obviously these two are fucking slow as shit yeah if they had just reported their mother missing i imagine these two would be like in a halfway house somewhere

yeah fucking playing Star Wars Chamming the toilet up Jammy They wouldn't be as good at Gardner's I'll tell you that at the halfway house So our last creep Dick Our last creep

Sophie Eastwood Formerly known as Daniel Eastwood Okay She Daniel transitioned from male to female After being jailed for life in 2004 Sure You know why not?

You got plenty of yeah definitely so this happened in scotland the 36 year old was dubbed the hannibal lector junior after she used shoelaces as a garot to strangle her cellmate a month before she was due to be freed from a young offenders institution for dangerous driving that shit escalated quick dangerous driving turned into hannibal lector junior sex change yeah so now she's now she's in prison and she was like you know what it is the part of the one like chop it off i don't want it anymore i'm a lady now so they put her in here they put her in lady prison they transferred put her in lady prison and now in 2022 she's been in jail since

2004 she has declared that she wants to be treated as an infant and has requested to do that or what i don't know what they have to do in scotland i have no fucking clue. They got the kilts. I don't know who's who in Scotland, what they're up to. Why did criminals get like that much of their freedom recognized? Like everything about prison is

cruel and horrible, but why do they let them fuck around with identity stuff? Do you know what I mean? Oh, you're in a prison in your own body. Well, you're in a prison prison. Yeah. So I don't fucking care. That's great. We want you in here suffering. That's the point. So

yes, you absolutely have to stay in with the wrong gender. So whenever you feel suicidal or feel bad, just come in and report to us. We'll tell you, yeah, you earned it. You shouldn't have strangled that woman with shoelaces. Yeah.

You're supposed to feel bad. Get back to your cell and no dessert, bitch. Go. It's so fucking crazy. So she wants to wear diapers. She wants to have her food pured. And she also demanded guards, hold her hand when she is escorted to it from herself.

Uh, I read that they gave her a pacifier, too. Fine. You could have fucking pacifier, you fucking weirdo. She's sneaking stuff in, like she's sneaking a file in and the pacifier to file down the bars to escape. This is a long con. Now, according to a source quoted by the Daily Record, prison bosses are treating her request seriously and have already given her a dummy. Yeah. I don't know what that means.

What do you mean? It's a pacifier. Okay, a pacifier. Eastwood is it a complex person and intelligent, but she is pretty demanding on the reason. sources of the prison and enjoys being the center of attention, they said. It's difficult to know if she really does feel a natural inclination to be treated like a baby, or if it's just something for attention. What is the difference? That's a great question. That's an even better question. What is the fucking difference? Now, this is just so crazy to be. The article

goes out to say the modern prisons are very tuned into human rights and the legal implications they throw up. So it's being given proper consideration. The sources also reveal Eastwood has been difficult and manipulative over the years. Well, it is unknown if Eastwood's condition has been clinically examined. People who identify as babies usually suffer from paraphylic

infantism, otherwise known as adult baby syndrome. Oh, it's got a whole syndrome. Well, it's... That someone like John Money came up with. It's also classified as a sexual fetish that sees adults role playing and regressing to a childhood like state.

Um, fucking crazy that this jail is taking it seriously. It sounds like, uh, if they're Hannibal Lecter or not, like, they'll just push it till the system will not tolerate it anymore. So I guess the prison gets the last laugh, right? Because they know that she's just pushing them with insane bullshit. Like, yeah, sure. Yeah, we'll accommodate that. Yeah, here. You want some diapers? You want to go shit on yourself and yourself, I guess? We'll read your bedtime story, sure. would you rather read her bedtime stories or like deal with shower duty if you're a if you're a guard yeah i'll go read the nut a story so i'll read him a story i'll read him the same

one just like a baby would one every day can you tell me another one no lights out don't touch the bars just starts racking it with starts racking it with her billy club there are no plans but eastwood in any open prison schemes even though she has already served the entire punishment term in normal jail, so they're putting her in her own separate place now. And speaking to the record from prison this year, Eastwood said, she claimed she would have been released by now if she had not transitioned. She said, I felt this was sexist and transphobic. Oh, and babyphobic.

The SPS Scout Scottish Prison Service was implying that. as a man, I didn't represent a risk to the public, but as a woman I did, I don't think there's any evidence to support that. Well, you know, women. That's the evidence. They have a track record. They all belong in prison. So, I have to say, that is the end of episode 101.8. Dick Masterson, I appreciate it. You better hope that that lady doesn't hear put your house with a diaper and a binky. Oh, what is she going to do? Looking for revenge. she's going to be like flush you down your own toilet she's going i identify as a rochesterian now i need to be transferred out of prison for life to rochester to get revenge on the fat one fuck that dick i gotta tell you man it's been fun doing the show with you today thank you so much uh we could you could follow dick on twitter at the communist and you can check out the dick show and the biggest problem in the universe wherever you listen to podcasts yeah thanks so much guys i love talking about pedophiles and hearing about pedophiles.

So I know this is where I could go to let it to let it loose, you know? Yeah, man. We don't pull any punches on this show. We talk about the fucked up shit here. So it's been fun having you. Carl will be back next week if his feet can be straightened out. Until then, folks, act right. It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.

Gogea. That's how we close the show. Is it that good? Did you come up with that? No, we stole it. from an old radio guy. Oh, wow. Hey, I didn't even get to play for you.

Have you ever heard of Carl Hamburger? Yeah, I have. Did you see the video of Carl Hamburger this past week doing his cheeseburger? Oh, yes, I did. Yeah, I did. I got all these voices. I feel like those should pop up on the dick show.

Yeah, I feel like we could do a whole, like a food-themed. episode. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! I sit there writing out hamburger puns all day. Oh, good one, Vinnie!

Oh, man, I'm having so much fun with that. Dick, thanks again, man. All right, buddy.