The Creep Off - Episode 111: Knife, Knife, Ouch

Episode Date: May 3, 2022

This week Karl & Vinnie celebrate mother's day by making their nominations for creepiest mom: Karl's Dinner with a listener consequence is finally determined: In the Scum Parade we meet a prank video call enthusiast, a modern-day witch hunter and a 14-year-old monster.  

Hey everyone, Tucker Dixon here with your weekly recap. Last week, we visited the Great White North, Alaska. Vinny started us out with a man who, somewhere between the baking, the hunting, the gun collecting, and the prostitutes, I realized he would be my new best friend. Hopefully he'll be out of jail soon. I'm not going to say anything about Carl's creep to honor his wishes. Also, I've been told by the government that I should not speak ill of Israel. As for my creep, it would have to be Sarah Palin.

She claimed she can see Russia from her Alaskan house, but she did nothing to warn us about this Ukrainian-Russian war. We could have crushed those Ukrainians by now. That's all I got for this week. Tucker, out. Good points. Holy shit. Attention parents.

What you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation. Horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the gun. because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo.

I do know they are very much against pedophilia. They fight it very hard. Disgusting Disgusting Vomit-inducing thing Ola Creepos, welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast,

the show about creeps by creeps for you creeps I am your host The Tower of Power too sweet to be sour And I am proud to say That I am doing a show With my wonderful co-host He is the brains behind WATP He's just look at him folks

He's handsome too Cause He's a handsome guy Put your hands together for him He's the man And it's cuck, cuck, C. What is happening, Vinnie Paul? You know, great to see you, my friend. It's nice to see you, too, man. I'm in a good mood today. Good. I'm glad to do a show with you. What's going on? Why are you in a good mood today? I don't even know. I shouldn't be.

I know. I know. I thought you were. You know what I'm happy about? You had a good mood is weird, because I thought you were a bunch of murders I wanted a minute ago. I am happy that we're using this new software. Okay, yep. We're streaming live today. We're having some fun with that. We're back on YouTube for the first time in months. Yeah. We're giving this a shot. We're going to see what happens. Cool. And Godspeed. I would even say, exaltseur, true believers. Upwards and onwards. Now, to last week's episode, we went to, as Tucker Dixon said in the recap, to Alaska. That's correct. And I had a guy who hunted women for sport. Yep. Carl had a guy who had murder caches all over the country where he would go and just pick up a couple grand and some guns go murder someone and then fly back to his house in Alaska.

Yep. And I hate to say it, Carl, you got me. Yes, 61% of the vote going to Carl. Thank you to the Pudgeon Loolews out there. I see what you did there and I approve of it. Well done, everybody. Well. I'm on the board this round, two to one.

It's two to one, buddy. it's two to one we're having a good time I needed that I need that this is a healthy round I feel good about it and today we're going to honor the people who mean the most to all of us well most of us some of us have some issues with them

our mothers ah Mother's Day is coming up yeah not every mother is like just an awful bitch whore like Carl's a lot of mothers are great they raise their children right So I brought Mrs. Hamburger today. Is that appropriate or how does that work?

I think you nailed it. So do you want to get this round started, Vinny? I don't know. Do we have any of their announcements or anything we want to talk about? Well, the reason I'm in a good mood is mainly because of the fact that tickets went on sale for the stand-up show. Yes. Who are These Comics.com live in Nashville, May 14th? It'll be myself.

It'll be Shulie Egar. We're going to co-headline this show. And it's going to be hosted by you, sir. That's correct. Making your stand-up comedy debut, so to speak. And also, someone who's a veteran of stand-up comedy, Vic the Review Girl. Yeah. We'll also be on this show.

I hope she serves stand-up better than her country. I don't know why you keep forgetting that detail when you promote this show. Because I don't care. Like, this is sympathy. This is sympathy for the poor girl. It's going to be great. I got a fun surprise for you. I'm going to announce later in the show, too.

You're really going to enjoy. Awesome. All right. Ring that bell, Carl. You're going first. All right. I will go first and no, I didn't bring Mrs. Hamburger. That would be ridiculous.

She's a fine lady. Fine, fine lady did the best job that she could. I am bringing. You didn't give her a lot to work with. I agree. Correct. I mean, I wish she hadn't broken my feet before I was born. She hobbled you at birth?

Aside from that, she's great. I brought a woman named Teresa Nore. Are you familiar with Teresa Nore? Not at all. I'm excited. Interesting. So the movie The Afflicted is based on her. She's a bad, bad mom.

Very, very bad. Now, she lost her mom when she was 15 years old. And at the age of 16, she decided to drop out of school and get married to her boyfriend who's five years older than her. Okay. And they had a baby right away. Her in Clifford. That's never good for a young couple. No.

No, you want to have the honeymoon period. You know, have some fun for a little bit. But now, they just started making babies right away. They were very abusive to each other. And apparently, this Teresa thought that Clifford was cheating on her. She was very jealous all the time. Oh, no. She would get in these fights.

And when she was pregnant with their second child. Oh, my God. Clifford said... Fighting, but still fucking. I mean, they got a chance this young couple. I'm leaving you. I'm done here. This is Dunzo.

He's leaving. And he's walking out the door. But not before she could shoot him in the back with a shotgun. Oh, no. And murder Clifford. So she goes on trial for murder. Now hold on. She shot him in the back.

In the back and he's leaving. Not a lot of defenses for that. No. There's not a lot of good defenses. But during the trial, she took the stand and cried her eyes out. And the jury found her not guilty. And she was released. She was trying to say how abusive he was.

And she feared for her life. And that was the only choice she had. He was about to abuse the door handle. your honor. Yes. I had to stop the monster. So she decides to go ahead and get married again and she gets married to this guy, Robert Nore, and they have four children together. So she's good for six now? So now she's good for six children. Okay. Two from the first marriage, four from this marriage. But she has the same problems with Robert. She's constantly accusing him of cheating on her and all this crap and she's going out and partying all the time. So he decides

to leave her. So she's going out. partying. She's going out and partying, especially after Robert leaves her. Then it's just like all on, like just drinking all the time going out. She's married two more times. And by the time she's 30 years old, she's been divorced four times. Jesus. The single mother with six kids by 30. And Robert wanted. Remind me what year this is? So this is going back to the 60s. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. Early 70s we're talking about. That makes sense to you. Yeah. Who says women can't achieve? So Robert, actually wanted to have custody of his kids and she did not let him have custody of the kids. She's got six kids, single mom, doing it all by herself. Now, she had some issues. She was getting fat. She wasn't looking all that attractive. And she blamed all of her problems on her children.

Okay. Which, I mean, she's not wrong. I'm going to say, yeah, but maybe some of them are partially her problem. But from what I understand, you're not supposed to let them know. Right. You're supposed to keep that inside. maybe tell them when they're in their 20s or 30s and have their own kids.

Be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You should hear the shit I say to my dog when I have to go home in the middle of something to go let them out. Oh, yeah, your dog knows. But the fucker just ruined my afternoon. But like, you can't do that to a kid. It scars them.

Well, you know what else scars children is torture? This is what our friend Teresa was up to with these kids. Teresa forced them to practice all kinds of torture. She would make them sit still in the kitchen floor to slap them. She would throw razors at them She would point a gun at their heads She would put cigarettes out in their skin

It was a real torment So I'll just read what Wikipedia has to say about this For years Nor abused and tortured her children in various ways Including beating them, force-feeding them Burning them with cigarettes And throwing knives at them for fun She made her children hold each other down

While she assaulted them In one instance Nora held a pistol to her youngest daughter Terry's head and threatened to kill her. Jesus. Nor primarily focused her anger and abuse on Terry's older sisters, Susan and Sheila. In an interview, Terry said her mother resented that Susan and Sheila were maturing and blossoming into attractive young women while she faced the prospect of losing her looks as she aged.

So she actually accused her daughters of being witches and casting spells on her that made her gain weight and lose her attractiveness. So if you have witches in the house, you got to do something. Did they tie them up and throw them on the lake just to test to make sure that, you know. No, but you know the old burning at the steak thing? Yeah. All right. Let's see what happens here.

This is just a fun clip talking about some of the torture that's going on here. Always control and Teresa began to become more violent and unpredictable. She accused her children of things that they had not done and she would beat them for their imaginary actions. Her children described the weapon she would beat them with as the board of events. education. The board of education. My principal pulled that ship. Three-foot-long board that was about one and a half inches thick, with an electrical tape wrapped around one end to form a handle. Trees would make the other children hold her siblings down while she beat them. Her abuse didn't stop with beatings, though. She would burn her children with cigarettes, forced them to do grueling labor

and heat, deprive them with sleep, and throw knives at them as a game. She once locked Terry in a chest freezer for the supposed crime but telling other people that Trees didn't take care of her children. But the worst of her anger and abuse was directed towards her daughters. In an interview, said her mother resented that Susan and Sheila were maturing and blossoming into attractive young woman while she faced a prospect of losing her looks as she aged. Oh, okay. So you know what this really is all about here, Vinny?

It wasn't just for love of the game. She just... She was just... She was like, we're going to... Everybody sits still. We're going to play knify, knify, ouch, ouch. The woman's outward appearance isn't all that matters, okay? Have you stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe, you're jail?

Nobody likes a girl who's jelly That's right Teresa Nore You're being very jelly Of your daughters And nobody likes that type of behavior So I wanted to ask you What your take was on this

Because I'm against all of everything so far This one's interesting For the record So Susan's the oldest daughter And she is the most attractive She's thin She looks great

And here's Teresa getting fat So she decided That she wanted her daughter to be fat. too? Trees would make huge pots of macaroni and cheese, adding in hunks of lard and forced Susan to eat it all. If Susan got too full to eat any more, Trees would force spoonfuls of the food into her

mouth. If Susan vomited, Trees would make her eat that too. You know what I said I was against everything? Yep, as I was wondering. Now, making her eat the vomit is probably pretty bad, though, right? Even by your standards, I would imagine. Yeah. I would imagine, I mean, where we live, we'll eat a garbage plate or two.

But that's where we draw the line. That's pretty much where I draw the line. That's pretty bad. That's pretty gross. I'm a little sickened by that, yeah. All right. Here's a longer clip, but Susan didn't last very long under these circumstances. Sure.

Susan became a delusional from the infection and pain and soon slipped into it. Oh, okay. I should point out what happened before this. So they had Susan tied up to the dining room table for months. They decided to untire. and Teresa gave Terry the youngest daughter a gun to hold at her so that she wouldn't go anywhere. Sure.

And they were in there like making food or something. Someone dropped a spoon. It spooked Terry so she shot her. And so Susan was shot in the chest. Now rather than bring her to the hospital, they put her in the bathtub and they sewed her up. And she actually survived that. Okay?

Wow. The problem was that the bullet was still inside her. And Teresa was concerned You're not supposed to just stop the bleeding Right Well Teresa was concerned That that would be evidence That they could use against her

The fact that her daughter has a bullet inside her She thought that might be a problem So they decided They decided we gotta take this bullet out So after she recovers from being shot She comes back, she recovers They say okay we got to perform surgery So she forces her sons

to perform surgery to remove the bullet. And why the son's got to do it. The anesthesia she used was whiskey, which didn't work out real well. She has an ibuprofen too, which didn't work out real well. And so it was like a little fun little surgery time at home. Lots of games they played at this home. Throw the knife. Operate at your sister.

Lots of fun games. Anybody want to play doctor? Not with you, mom. You're old and ugly. No, wait. I need you to come and get this surgery. Do this surgery on your sister. All right.

So, yeah, let's see what happens here. Susan became a delusional from the infection in pain and soon slipped into a coma. Teresa insisted Susan was just faking it and left her on the kitchen floor, instructing her other children just to step over her unconscious body. As Susan lost control of her bladder, Teresa put diapers on her. As Susan's body turned yellow from sepsis and jaundice, Teresa claimed it was proof that Susan was possessed by a demon. And the only way to exercise the demon, she believed, was with fire.

On July 16th, 19E4, Nor packed all of Susan's belongings into trash bags, and after binding Susan's arms and legs and placing duct tape over her mouth, ordered her son's Robert William to put Susan in the car. He drove her to Squaw Valley where Robert William placed her on the side of the road on top of the bags containing her belongings. Teresa Nour then dials Susan in the bags and gasoline and lit the girl on fire. Susan's still smoldering body was found the following day. An autopsy determined that she was still alive when she was lit on fire. this poor woman this poor girl was shot recovered then they tried to take the bullet out and then she kind of got an infection from that died almost died but then died being burned alive on the side of the road and when they discovered her body they couldn't figure out

who it was so now well her skin looked yellow she must have had a demon yes they knew that they knew that she was possessed but that was the only thing they knew for sure so now Now, with Susan out of the picture, Teresa decides that Sheila's the problem. And she forces Sheila into prostitution to pay the bills because Teresa's not working. So then Teresa gets upset with Sheila because she thinks she got pregnant and got an STD. Oh, no. Yeah. So they decided to walk Sheila in a closet in their apartment and not open the door.

These people do not believe in treating infections. No, they do not. They locked her in a closet. She instructed the siblings to not open the door. This poor girl, Sheila, is in there yelling and screaming, pounding on the door until about three days later. It just stopped. She just stopped making all that noise. Got real quiet.

Was mom like, I guess she finally learned her lesson. Well, what's funny is that I don't know if Teresa forgot about her, just thought maybe she'd go away. but three days after that she goes kind of stinks in here I think it's coming from the closet It's out of sight, out of mind kind of deal So they open up the closet And yeah she's dead in there

She had died from starvation and dehydration I opened up the closet My dead sister's in the closet Which is a fun way today A Temeanor Kelly wasn't there Come up with a tune or two So they threw her in the car Drove her out somewhere

My gay and sisters in the closet And burned her as well burned her body and what's funny is that they went back to the apartment and it's still stunk you know just getting rid of the body didn't get rid of the smell so teresa's like hmm if people report me and the smells they might start investigating let's burn the apartment down nah i think she started force feeding the rest of the kids beads like she did the macronia cheese to make them all fart and stick the place up to hide that's not what happened bitty that's that would be a hilarious thing to happen but now she burnt she burnt she burnt the apartment

At least my idea was better. So she got away with murder yet again. And at this point, the kids are old enough that they all go their separate ways. And Teresa goes to Las Vegas and she's living a life now in Las Vegas. The youngest daughter, Terry, is telling anyone who would listen to her about this. She tells her therapist. She tells authorities, the police. Everyone thinks she's making it up.

She's like, everyone's like, this is a crazy story. Your mom isn't this nuts. You're making up. this shit up, right? It wasn't until 1993. Jesus. The TV show America's Most Wanted highlighted these two unidentified bodies

that were her sisters. And they said, anybody with information about this, she's like, all right, I'll try again. She calls them up. They decided to go ahead and believe her.

And they did bring Teresa Nora to justice, as well as the two sons. Holy shit. Little Adam Walsh did die for a purpose. Yes, he did. To bring this bitch to justice. That's correct.

She is currently serving two life sentences in California, crying on the stand, didn't get her out of this one. So that is my creepiest mom, Teresa Nour, truly just an awful, awful person, even by my standards. Yeah, I can't. I mean, it's not like she did a bad podcast or anything, Carl. Right. It's not something that bad. She's not mom's wife's left. but she's pretty bad so where do i start my creep today yeah really upset me carl and i don't

this does not happen to me often no it doesn't i told you before the show started to smell this glass yes and what was in this glass car it smells like tequila it is tequila car yeah it's not anything but tequila it's a blanco it's pretty harsh oh boy oh boy minnie's chugging tequila it's not like Kim. Mike Reap today was a 33-year-old first-time mother on July 26, 2009. The date of the incident we're going to talk about today. Her name is Adi Sanchez. Now, O-T-T-Y. Interesting. Terrible name. What ethnicity is you? I believe they are Hispanic. Okay. So she's born in 76, into a family filled with crazy people. She doesn't know who her dad is. Okay. Her mother, her aunt, her aunt,

and her cousins all have mental health problems. She's an only child. She grows up in a house crowded with all of her other relatives. She never knows her dad, like I said. She lives in chaotic conditions. They're always moving. Houses, always moving, lived in three different cities. By around high school.

Sounds fun. World traveler, had your family around all the time? No, not really. It's all good so far. No, by around age five. Adi Sanchez started hearing voices in her head. Yeah, clean up your room. But Carl, here's the interesting thing.

These voices were all like positive voices. They're like, Adi, you can do this. Yeah, like daily affirmations. That's cool. Yeah, it was like I have Adora the explorer living inside of you. Sweet. You can do it, Adi. Yeah. Yeah.

You're special. Telling her that everything's going to be fine. Just basically like self-affirming voices inside of her head. Nice. But here's the thing. She's surrounded by other crazy people that are like outwardly more crazy. Yeah. So she gets no.

treatment for this to her childhood at all. Well, I mean, okay. No one appeared to have any regard for the scare. Hey, I'm hearing voices in my head that I'm awesome and I can do anything I want to. It's like, what are you going to do? I try to treat someone for that? In my family, you would be beaten down immediately verbally.

All right. Until you eat all your problems away. Now, they said, they described her as the most level-headed member of the family. Okay. Okay. She did very well at school. She graduated when I have good grade. She becomes a pharmacy tech.

While she's doing school for this around 2003, she meets a guy named Scott Buckholtz, who is a schizophrenic. Okay. Cool. So Scotty and Adi. Scottie and Adi. I like it.

The two begin a dysfunctional relationship, punctuated by frequent breakups, and Sanchez's mental illness worsened over the years because she started using drugs. Now, you know what? I have to tell you. Drugs are bad. They're not great when you have severe mental illness.

That's not being treated. You shouldn't do drugs. So her mental health worsens. She loses her job because she's displaying erratic behavior. What kind of drugs is she doing, do you know? They did not say. So they did say that she, like, disappeared for a while and was using drugs. So I don't know how heavy.

I don't like the general she's using drugs thing. I agree. I have a lot of friends who use drugs every day. They're fine. If I had the answer for this, I would have looked it up. It would be in here. Because, you know, I get every nuance of the story. She bounced from one low-paying job to another, usually working in fast food restaurants.

She also had a brief spell as a home health caregiver. So she's working shit jobs by May 2008. The fast food is not a shit job. It's a fun job. There's some perks. Yeah, that's going on the wheel of consequences. Get a job at a fast food restaurant and work shifts. You're going to work at the Wendy's up the street.

Holy shit, that's hysterical. That's really funny. Like you get hired. You have to go work shifts. That's a funny consequence. You have to work like three shifts. And a fucking fast food. Can I write that on the application?

This is for a goof. That would be the fucking... Sir, you seem a little overqualified for this position. Yeah, I know. It's for a goof. It's a bit we're doing. Is it cool? My buddy hangs out and fills me while I'm doing this.

He's here anyway. He's here all the time anyway. He's actually sitting right over there. That guy? He needs a guy with Biggie fries. He's our best customer. Tell me come back more. We have to think about that.

That one's pretty funny. Okay. So let's just fast forward to 2008. She goes to Austin, Texas. with a fred out a little trip. Yeah. Her friend goes to get an acupuncture treatment for some reason. She wanders off, goes into a pharmacy where she spends the next nine hours going through

everything on all the shelves saying that she's preparing for a non-existent trip to China. Okay. The staff eventually is like, this person is just in the store being crazy. So they call authorities. She gets a mental health arrest. They take her to the state hospital. She's there for 16 days. They realize she's schizophrenic as well.

Okay. She's never been diagnosed to this point. so after he she gets released the the woman who's had voices in her head since she was five is schizophrenic yep no shit Sherlock no shit thanks for clearing that well I'm just trying to explain something that's very interesting here September 2008 she's she's getting mental health treatment she's on medication she's getting better her life is getting better things are going well she's back drugs are good she's back together with Scott great but uh Things changed when the clinic that she was going to is faced with budget cuts, and they informed Sanchez that they could no longer treat her for free.

She would either have to pay for treatment or apply for government benefits. Okay. This is where I have no sympathy for this creep. Okay. She was unable to afford the treatment, but she was so fucking lazy. She just said she didn't want to do the paperwork and applying for the government assistance. She simply stopped going. That paperwork is a bitch. Those are long forms.

Carl. that she simply stopped going and getting any treatment stop taking all of her meds around the same time she and scotty buckholz that's the problem with girls they're either not taking enough drugs or they're taking too many drugs i can't find any girls it's somewhere in between yeah it's either or right a real 50 50 proposition with these ones so by late september 2008 the end of the month she find out she's pregnant with scott wesley buckholz's baby who is bored scott wesley buckholz junior on june 30th, 2009. Oh, that's right.

I forgot this is a story about mothers. Yeah. It's taking a long time to get there. I'm sorry. I just want everybody

to know who we're dealing with here. Yep. Three weeks later, Sanchez had one of her frequent fights with Buckholtz and moves out of his house. On July 20th, she moved with her baby

into her home of her aunts and crazy cousins. Mm-hmm. That same afternoon, Carl, she shows up at the emergency room complaining to being emotionally stressed out. They gave her,

her a flyer on dealing with anxiety and told her to leave. Yeah, that's probably a ditto will probably help her through this. On the afternoon of July 25th, Sanchez appeared at the home that Scott Buckholt shared with his mother, Kathleen. She claimed that she wanted to collect the baby's diaper bag, but she was

acting so erratically that the mother urged her to seek some help. At that point, she starts accusing the mother of trying to steal the baby and wanting to breastfeed it. She then bolted from the house. Okay. Kathleen, the mother of the grandmother,

calls the county sheriff's department and reported her concern for the child because she didn't put the kid in a car seat. Okay. It's like three weeks old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Car seats are reported.

Yeah. The police did nothing. Adi goes back to her house. In the cops' defense, like, what are you going to do? So she's been to the hospitals, they've done nothing. Yeah. The police have been called. They have done nothing.

Yeah. Okay. I can't even believe that nothing happens. I can't. What was the accusation that there was a baby in a car? There's a three-week-old baby in a car without a car seat, and the woman's acting crazy. Do you know often that happened in the 50s and the 60s all the time every day? This is San Antonio, Texas.

It is the Wild West. They're fine. They don't care. So she goes home. Her cousin that lived there said that evening, Adi was acting very irrationally and kept bringing her the baby and saying, take the baby. So the cousin took the baby for most of the evening. And apparently, Adi had calmed down.

And the cousin was like, take your baby. I'm not taking care of this baby anymore. This is your baby. Right. So a few hours later on 5 a.m., her cousin had to make a phone call, and I have the audio of the phone call, Carl. I wish it was a little bit better, but this is the actual 911 audio. Can I intend to fire any masks?

How can we help you? I need an MBS at 351 wayside drive. 351 wayside? Yes. It's a house. It's an apartment. And what's going on with the emergency? I'm sorry.

What's the emergency? What's going on? What's up? My sister has... She's her child. And she's... Hello? Tell me what's going on. Don't talk to the other people.

Talk to me. My sister has... She's heard her child. Seriously, you heard her child. How did she do that? What's going on with the child? The baby is dead. Jesus!

Jesus Christ! The baby is dead. Please come, please. The baby. Maybe three weeks, not only three weeks old? Three weeks old? Not even three weeks old, Dean. What did she do to him?

Or, I don't know. She stabbed him. That's not all over the bed. I don't know. All right. You know, to connect you up to the police, okay? So. It took her a long time to get that story out.

Jesus. Yeah, and I understand why. Do you? Because what's happening in the background is Adi, is a raving lunatic, screaming and yelling. She went into another room and, like, locked herself in another room to make the call to 911. So the cousin goes out, and she's still on the phone with the police,

and she is answering some more questions, and just listen to more of this. So now Adi's stabbing herself. My sister, I told you to come to me. I thought, but you tell me that you're God. I was, I'm not dead up here. I'm telling you. So she's clearly delusional.

Yes. Where did she stab herself? In the heart and in the stomach, she says. And where did you see it? I see a stab wound in her on her heart. Yes. I'm looking at her right now, yes. She cut her own throat, too.

She started stabbing herself while the sister is on the phone. of 9-1-1. And listen to this part, if you could hear this in the background, I had to isolate this. Mama, calm down. I didn't mean to do what he told me to. I didn't mean to do what he told me to is what she just yelled. So what didn't she mean to do? Well.

Murder the baby? Is that what she didn't mean to do? Police officers, and an ambulance obviously rushed to the address. They arrived at the scene so gruesome that many of them required trauma counseling after. A tiny decapitated corpse lay on a bed. Its skull cracked open with brain matter spilling out everywhere. That's fascinating. Please go on. Three of the baby's toes were missing.

Apparently chewed off. What? As if that was not bad enough, the skin of the child's face had been ripped away. It looked as though he had been attacked by a wild animal. Wow. Police say Sanchez chewed off three of her infant's toes and eight parts of the baby's brain. What? Not only that, she cut the baby's head off and genitals off.

The autopsy report spells out the attack in nauseating detail, mutilated genitals that had nearly decapitated in the skin flayed. Authority said Sanchez ate parts of her son, including the brains. The medical examiners found apparent bike marks across the body. And she stabbed this baby and cut this baby with two samurai swords. and a steak knife. Drugs are bad. You shouldn't do drugs. So she's not doing drugs.

She's just crazy. Well, is she maybe a vampire? Did you think about that? Is she a zombie? Maybe she's a zombie? There are certain people out there who eat people. It's the only way they can survive.

In an interview after this with a psychiatrist, she said the voices told me to hurt Scotty. He was going to be the apocalypse. Further on in the interview, Sanchez explains the decision to kill her son, saying the voices told me to eat his insides I was a harlot because I committed adultery there was a demon in my stomach

the demons would come out of her stomach if she ate Scotty the therapist explained and she also explained that this had to be done by 5 a.m. So she's sitting there too yeah so she's sitting there and she's like this baby's going to be the apocalypse if I don't murder and eat him

I need him I need a hero I'm holding out for a hero yeah she fucking ate this baby, parts of this baby. Did it work? Do the demons leave her stomach? No.

And that's the way the news goes. By 5 a.m., she believed that Scotty would evolve and he would no longer be possessed, and then they would be inside of her. Sanchez says the act of eating her child made her gag and throw up. I bet. But she kept doing it because the voices kept telling her too.

Oh, God. This episode could be hard to listen to. this is pretty brutal it's not good really i have the audio i need more audio of her talking to a therapist when they asked her about eating the baby i want my baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back ribs i want my baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back this is going great yeah she was very remorseful so obviously the people are freaking out the dad wants her executed. Sure.

I mean, this is an insane thing, and they decided to take it to trial instead of just locking her away. They put criminal charges up against her. They decided to take it. Yeah. It's called America, Finney. Dude, sometimes they just send you to jail. Sometimes they send you to the nut hide.

Okay. They decided to be a trial for this murder. So during this trial, they said they found out the schizophrenia, and they said, mixed with postpartum psychosis, this is what caused this. She has a history of several hospitalizations. they said. So long story short, for her to be found insane, they had to decide if she knew right from wrong at the time of the murder. You can't eat a baby's brains and claim that you know right from wrong. The judge took five minutes to agree with them on this. And he was like, yeah,

send her away. They sent her to the nut hut after five minutes of reviewing the psychiatrist's charts. As she was being let out of the court, Scott the dad says, bye, Addy. She replied with, Bye, I love you. And outside of court, Adi's mother, Manuela, said that she was glad that her daughter had been given a second chance at life. And I'm sorry my grandson didn't get that same chance. The verdict means that Adi's case will be reviewed annually by a judge to determine if and when she can be released.

Oh, God. As of right now, I believe, still locked up. Okay, good. Still locked up. So that is my creep. She ate a baby's brains. Well, she ate her own baby's brain. I is a baby

She fucking ate a baby, Carl Yeah, yeah, yeah It's not a good thing to do That's my creep this week All right I think we got a couple creepy moms You can vote for who you thought

brought the creepier mom On the creepoff.com Dot com Vote for Vinny Thecriepoff.com.com Carl I think it's time for some voicemails

You're ready to go? The creepoff voicemail segment was brought to you by the city of Syracuse A Syracuse pizza was recently shut down because its ingredients came from an unknown source. This is unacceptable. In Syracuse, we want you to know

exactly which family dollar dumpster your food came from. See you in Syracuse. They're running out of slogans. That's not a good slogan for your town. It's not going to get people to go there, Syracuse. I mean, on a billboard, you can't even read it all. You're driving by. Yeah, I agree with you.

Yeah. every label we have a special label he'd let you know which dumpster it's great so first voicemail I have to say this is some nice positive feedback on the bonus episode we did last week for patreon hey oh just finished listening to the bonus amazing scumption Carl that advice you had about how to traffic drugs fucking priceless came about 10 minutes It's too early, though, or it's too late. Fuck me. Uh-uh.

I'm calling you from county. Yeah, they found all my baggies. Don't put it in the glove compartment. Anyway. Never in the glove box. I'll find a way to listen from jail. Have a good night, guys. The two places they always look, your glove box and your asshole.

Remember that, people. You know what's funny is I wonder what percentage of our listeners are currently in prison or jail while they're listening to the show. And is that why Syracuse advertises on our show? Because they're like, well, once you get out, come visit Syracuse. It's basically Australia. Syracuse is just a prison colony. Just be with your people. We'll judge you here.

We're all like you. I was talking to a comedian last night, a friend of mine, Shirel, she's hysterical. She played the Syracuse Funny Bone this past weekend. She was there for five shows. And like, there were three shootings inside of that mall recently. Yes, I have seen the news on that. Yeah, it's like the gangs have decided that's like an area where they want to have their warfare going out. Yeah, apparently in the food court.

The food court is like gang territory now. Yeah. She said she walked in there and she saw like 200 kids and like four adults. Can I just say food fights, fun? Armed violence, not as much fun. Throw your French fries. Don't shoot a gun. I'm with you, Carl.

Right. We need, listen. Listen, I love a nice melee. inside of a food court. Don't get me wrong. It's not like the food court is run by Nazis. You don't need to invade.

What a fun time. Carl? Yes. I have some good news. By the way, that was a really good scum stream we did last week. It really was a lot of fun.

People want to support us on Patreon and get bonus episodes where you can find that. And merch. And we get merchandise too. You get merchandise. So Carl, a lot of people called with the same voicemail this week.

I'm only going to respond to it one time. Okay. because you all said the same fucking thing. I get it. What do we do wrong? Hey guys, Sir Lipton one more time. I'll make to tell you, it's Vinny. The movie you're thinking about, it was broken ground.

I watched it maybe about a month ago, and it is horrible like you were saying, but it was actually John Cusack who played Stuttering Bob. Nicholas Cage played the grizzled hard detective who was out to try to capture him.

And then 50 Cent plays. some random pimp. I don't know why he was in it. That movie was straight trash. So just giving you a correction. You'll probably get more calls about that. Fuck y'all.

And I'll see you in Syracuse. Thank you, man. Thank you. I have no plan. I'm going to have to be there. That was my favorite call in regards to any of this because all the other calls

are like, it's actually a pretty good movie. Oh, really? Hey, Vinnie. Hey, Vinnie. Hey, Vinnie. Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch. Nicholas Cage was a cup. I get it. All right, now we get it.

And you know what? I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Well, you should, Vinny. We try to get the facts right on this show. Listen to the shit. Vinny, I forgot to tell you the name of the movie is The Frozen Ground.

That's the name of the movie. You should see it. It's a good movie. Thank you, fuck you. Bye. 9,000 of those this week. There ain't no fact check it. I don't care about the movie.

this movie. Thank you for fact checking Vinnie, sir. I was so... Could everybody please continue to fact check Vinny? Yeah. What's your opinion on frozen ground? What did you think? All right, I got a couple voicemails here. Go ahead. Our friend Richard Lucas called into the show.

Hey, Carl, this is Richard Lucas. I just wanted to tell you. I was listening to that thing about the girl getting her clip ripped off by the fingernail. Yeah. And it reminded me this time of making out this girl and she used to teach like she's like digging into my gums

next thing you know two minutes later I'm heading for the bathroom and I'm spitting out blood for the next hour and a half on top of that when I got back her makeup started and she looked like the joker thank you fuck you bye I maybe not a keeper

sounds like he was making out with me the poor Jenny's face is scarred It's all scarred and mangled. Here's another voice of an angel. Here's another voicemail about my consequence that's coming up. Face of a victim. I don't know if I agree with this or not.

Okay. But I want to get your take on it. Carl, I just heard the cow photographer offer to have dinner with you in Nashville. You've got to do it. And be sure to film it. I mean, it's a win-win. You get to finally finish the consequence. and it'd be great bonus content for both podcasts.

I mean, come on. How can you say no? Is that man jerking off while he's leaving this voicemail? That was weird. I don't know why people are so enthralled with the cow photographer. Well, he and I had a nice conversation about Sunday night. Why is that an interesting thing? Why is the cow photographer something that?

I promised you a surprise, Carl. Oh, okay. You are having dinner with the cow photographer at Nashville. Am I really? You are. And you know what? I'm going to do you a favor. Okay.

You get to do it Friday night. Friday night. You get to have dinner to cow photographer. And he's going to bring a fun souvenir for you to have. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I hope he puts it right on the table. I wonder what that's going to smell like.

Just leave it right on the table for the whole meal. You know what your instructions are. Uh, Carl. Yes, me. Have a great time. Jenny and I'll go get something to eat. Okay. I'll take Jenny to eat.

I'll help her. I'll get a straw for her because her face is all mangled from your teeth. She's fine. She's fine. Your wife is the greatest. She's wonderful. She is. I'm sorry, we brought her into this.

I guess that is the voice sale segment for this week unless you have any more. Nope, that's all I got, buddy. All right, buddy, boy. So let's do a scum parade, Carl. Watch out for the scum parade. Oh, no, it's a scum parade. The guy was going for rain Making many say

Say Say Sarasota County Florida, Carl Yes The Sarasota County Sheriff's Office has arrested a man accused of video calling strangers while completely naked. Yes, this is a weird prank. It's the new form of prank. Yes.

Visual sexual assault. The investigation began in mid-February, after detectives received at least three reports from victims who received video calls from an unknown man who is completely nude making lewd gestures on camera. Who's answering video calls? I wouldn't answer a video call from my mother, when alone a stranger who's FaceTiming me. Pass.

How lonely it to me to answer your phone? People like the technology, they just look and go, oh, someone's calling me. Oh, it's a gentleman who's jerking off. Damn it. If you don't recognize the number, probably best not to answer the video call. Yeah, unless you want to answer it and just hear... Jacking it, jacking it, jacking it, jacking it, spike in it, smack. That was audio from the call.

Once in custody, the gentleman by the name of Adam Smith confessed to calling numerous random phone numbers within the past two months. Smith has been charged with a decent exposure, exposure of sexual organs, and obscene communication. It's not hard for them to track. Yeah, right. Where you call from number one. And then they were like, oh, look, you have very distinctive tattoos. Yep. Your tattoos match.

Yeah. This is a bad strategy all around because what are the chances of even calling an attractive female that you want to jerk off with, right? If it worked once, it was a goddamn miracle. Right. I don't understand what this guy's trying to accomplish in any single way. Sounds like a creep if you ask me. I'm with you. We're going to go to Lyme, New York.

You ever heard of this? Yes. believe this is where Lyme disease is celebrated, right? We got a big statue of a lot of disease right up in the score. I've never heard of Lyme, New York now. I don't know where this is. It says it's Western New York somewhere, so I'm guessing it's somewhere in the sticks, but I was done with her witchcraft.

That's what 51-year-old Anthony DeBella allegedly told police after the stabby death of his sister in the town of Lyme Thursday morning. According to court documents, Debella reportedly stabbed 67-year-old Wanda Paoli in the head, neck, and face with a bayonet and an all. A-W-L. Yeah, it's kind of like an ice pack. Yes. I had to look that up. Yeah, I had to as well.

The paper says DeBella told police he killed his sister because she was, quote, getting in the way of me communicating to God. You know what's funny? The irony here is that I bet God would have told him not to kill her. Yeah, if he could have gotten through. It could have gotten through. And honestly, I am all for killing off witches, right? I mean, I think you would agree with me that. So is your creep this week.

Yes, witches should be killed. But you got to do it properly. You burn them at the stake. You drawn them in a river. Or on a pile of their own belongings on the side of the road. Exactly. Exactly, Vinny. That's how you get rid of witches.

This guy's stabbing his sister in the head. You're just going to make it angry. Who stands people in the head? That's a weird place to stab someone. Well, again, he was, quote, done with her witchcraft. Debella is charged with second-degree murder and two counts of fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon. According to the court documents, Debella and Paoli

were living with their 89-year-old mother when the murder took place. In the papers, police said DeBella called them to report he had stabbed his sister at their home. Jefferson County dispatcher said they received the call from a man named Tony who said that Wanda Paoli is being killed. She is a witch,

killed with a knife and all, and is currently on the porch. well thank you for the call sir thanks for letting us out thank you sir next time we'll let the authorities handle the witch but thank you yep yep well we have proper ways to handle witches yes they involve catapults when officials arrived they handcuffed de bella and found paoli dead on the porch outside the house police found their mother unhurt inside the home and he's like of course she's dead on the porch i told you all she was i'm a christian man i ain't no liar This is a good man right there According to police Debella told them I had to do what I had to did To her because she was getting in the way And me communicating to God

Police say he continued to talk about how Quote people are worshipping rocks and dirt Instead of God The documents have also Also have a statement from Debella's brother Russell Worshbert's talking about I think she is probably one of those fucking annoying brugs I'm a wickin

Yeah probably yes Which if you're hot Wick it up baby Yeah it can work but not for this woman. It wasn't working for this woman in any way. Either way, the brother Russell in Texas said he spoke with Anthony on the phone and his brother told him, I killed her and I stabbed her in the head. Thank you, Russell. Yeah. Yeah. He cooperated the story. Anthony Jabella's being held without bail in the county jail. That's a hell of story, huh? That sounds like a party, that

house right there. So you got brother and sister who are 17 years apart, probably didn't grow up together at all. You got this elderly woman, 89 years old, who's in there. like out of it not even knowing what's going on uh where'd your sister go tell your sister to stop laying on the porch and being lazy tell her to cast a spell that wakes her up can you cast the smell out of this house says oh I imagine that place just smelled terrible everything about that story just screams gross part of western New York yeah the one thing I don't picture is central air I'm probably doing a one-nighter in

lime this fall. I just took a bunch of dates. I'm going to look that up. Where is lime? Oh, by the way, I will say this. I am playing the Syracuse Funny Bone. Did I tell you this? Oh, no, you didn't. I'm going to be there next month with our buddy Jim Florentine. Oh, that's amazing.

Yeah. We should get Jim on the show. If you're listening, Jim Florentine is always welcome. Well, you're going to talk to him. Yeah. I just want to find out if he'll listens to the show. I've never asked him. I know he listens to your show. I'm a little offended

by that. Why are you offended by that? You're on my show. I'm also offended by that. A woman who allegedly confessed to putting her two-month-old son's body in a trash after she claimed he died while he was sleeping has been killed. Now, this is quite the story, Carl. Did you find this one interesting? This one is interesting, yes. Ladonia Boggs 39 was allegedly stabbed to death inside her home in Washington, D.C. The Metropolitan Police Department said in a news release just before 3 a.m. that morning, 5th District detectives

responded to alerts of an incident in the area. They found bogs inside suffering from an apparent stab wound. She was declared dead at the scene. Later on Wednesday, officers from the Kappari-era Regional Fugitive Task Force found and arrested Carl Jones 44, charging him with second-degree murder well-armed.

Thanks a lot, Carl. Oh, where to go? Carl, that kills people. So either way, this guy, Carl, is the father of the baby. Yes. That she threw in the dumpster. Yes. Now, is that a proper way to dispose of a two-month-old?

No. Because honestly, I think what I would do, I'd go to one of those Goodwill drop-off locations. Yeah. Right? Absolutely. Yeah, because then someone will take care of it. I mean, you're not going to get good money for it. No, but I do want the tax right off.

You know, I just didn't give you a little pink receipt. Just fill out the paperwork, please, and I'll be on my way. It's a blue receipt if it's a boy. This came about a year after she was charged with the death of her son. She was originally charged with felony murder and the presumed death of her son, Kayon Jones. She allegedly was recorded saying he died in his sleep before she threw his body in the garbage. According to a statement from D.C. police, Kian was last seen alive on May 5th of last year, but wasn't reported missing until two days.

later. Right. Yeah. So authorities were searching a Virginia landfill for the newborn. His remains have still not been found. So I just want to say because I read that sentence right there and I thought, wait, authorities are searching a landfill for a newborn? What's the point of being an authority if you have to do all the fucking dirty work? I'd make the subordinate search through the garbage for a dead baby. If I'm an authority and that's not my job. I'm not doing that. Report back to me what you find. I'm with you, Carl. That sounds awful. I'm not going through a Manfield looking for a dead baby. No thank you. Yeah. I'm good.

A local missing person advocate would then shared a video of bugs talking about how her son had died while sleeping in the bed with her. The last thing that I remember was that I had rolled over and he was on my chest. After that when I was asleep, rolled over, noticed he was unresponsive and I panicked. That's what she said in some video. She then went

onto detail. She disposed of Cyan's lifeless body saying she wrapped it in a blanket before throwing it in the trash. This is like when Christopher was high on heroin and sat on Adrian's dog. Cossette. This is my favorite scene of the fucking Superman.

Tony's about to fucking murder that kid. I love it. How could you do that to Little Cossette? It's a sin. Oh shit. Okay. So this whole thing is very suspicious. Maybe it was an accident,

but the fact that you wrapped the baby up like Moses and placed it in the dumpster. Yeah. Makes it seem like maybe you're guilty of something. The surveillance footage showed bogs taking a car seat, a plastic bag, and a cardboard box to a dumpster at her apartment complex. Prosecutors decided not to pursue murder charges, and she was instead charged with tampering with evidence, and was awaiting trial when she was stabbed to death.

So it says... I don't usually say this often, but I'm on Team Carl. I don't get to say this too often. It says in the story that before the baby was killed, she was taking PCP. it doesn't generally put you to sleep correct also PCP is like so 1997 we're all doing meth now what are you doing all the cool kids are doing meth come out Ladania what are you doing it PCP

you know what she's doing now um not a fucking thing fertilizing plants I guess that's true the circle of life Chippewa Falls Wisconsin what that Officials say a 14-year-old boy strangled and then sexually assaulted a 10-year-old girl. Where did this happen? Wisconsin. What city?

Chippewa Falls. Home run. Call me a home run. Sorry. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. So, this story's hard, man. There's a lot of dark shit in this.

The 14-year-old's accused of killing the 10-year-old girl. He knew the girl planned the attack, knocked her down, choked her out before sexually assaulting her. The body of Ileana Peters was found Monday along a walking trail just a day after she went missing while returning home from an aunt's house a few blocks away, sparking anxiety in her small western Wisconsin community. Oh boy, Ileana, she disappeared. We don't know where she went. She was out there walking to her aunt's house and ain't no one seen her since then. I have a sister who lives in Wisconsin. That's a pretty good ass, that's a pretty good ass, that I don't go to.

visit. Yeah. And the worst part is that you do visit family in Alabama. So what does that say? The person whose family I visit in Alabama has paperwork on me. Okay. So the boy identified only by his initials appeared in adult court in Chippewa County by video for a juvenile detention center. Judge Benjamin Lane agreed to district attorney's request for $1 million cash bond.

the statements regarding this kid's intentions and his statements regarding what he did he got the girl off the trail he punched the victim in the stomach knocked her to the ground strangled her to death hit her with a stick strangling her to the point of death before he then sexually assaulted her then he finished the job yeah but how was the girl dressed do we know like a 10 year old so look at this kid's 14 years years old. We all went through this phase. I think he deserves another chance here, Vinny. I never went through the phase of murdering younger children and raping them. Sometimes when you like a girl, you pull her hair or you choke her out and sexually assault her,

you know, kid shit. Oh, oh. You're dealing with hormones and things, Vinny. It's a very complicated and confusing time for a young man. Yeah. The judge sealed a criminal complaint, but said after the hearing that the boy is charged with first degree intentional. How Homicide, first degree sexual assault and first degree sexual assault of a child under the age of 13, resulting in great bodily harm. Well, you know, she's dead, so. Yeah, it's pretty great. That's a lot of bodily harm. That body heart is pretty great, all right.

At that bodily harm? Stupendous. Pretty good. It's a pretty good bodily harm. Out of this world, bodily harm. It's so great. You can't believe the bodily harm. It's amazing.

I looked at that. That's great work. That's pretty great. This kid's going to be popular. I don't think so. Oh, no, okay. Yeah, he's, I hope this, I don't know, can you have a 14-year-old excuse? This is pretty terrible, dude.

I think that the kids should be given another chance. I think he's fine. I think we'll get through this. Look, and it was a pretty dramatic event in his life that he had to witness this murder and sexual assault and this poor 10-year-old, but I think he'll get over it. I'm a big fan of his. I think he'll get over, and I think he'll be fine. Carl you are a fucking monster

I'm trying to remember do we have anything else we need to go over today get your tickets for the stand-up show Who Are These Comics.com If you're going to be joining us in Nashville We're going to have a good old time Yeah and let's not forget tickets to our podcast WATP Live.com is where you can get those That's on May 14th in downtown Nashville

The City Winery. It's an awesome venue It's going to be a lot of fun And then you can come see the comedy show at Never Never which is, I believe, 1.8 miles away from the venue. Something like that. It's pretty close. It's pretty close. It's a quick Uber drive away.

We'll see you in Nashville. And next week, we already know our category. We'll just throw it out there. We're doing creepy. Where are you going to do the biggest creep in Nashville? Which I already picked my creep because I forgot that we were doing mothers today. Yeah, he texted me some dudes today, but I'm like, you realize we're doing mothers today. I think God, I texted that to you.

And the reason why I did is because I wasn't sure if we had done it yet or not. You know what would have happened? I normally don't. Ladies and gentlemen, here's what would have happened. If Carl came in. I know exactly what happened. I would have tried to gaslight you. You never said that.

You never said that. Mother's Day is next weekend, Vinny. What are you talking about? Why would we do mothers? Why do we do mothers on this show? We're doing Nashville. We got to promote the live show. What do you mean?

We talked about this. My brain is twitching and I know you're joking. And I know you're just kidding. And I'm having a fucking physical reaction to your bullshit. I would have a split second where I realized what an idiot I am. And then I would have. just got off on you about what an idiot you are. That's what would have happened. There is

no fucking shame in Carl's Gayle, ladies and gentlemen. Not a fucking ounce. Wine, by the way, is right next to Watertown. Oh, Home of Arthur Shawcross. That's correct. Well, they shipped them to Rochester for us, but yeah. Yeah, so it's right on the water actually, like

right by the Thousand Islands. Looks like a nice area. Oh. Well, lots of rocks and dirt. I worship those rocks and dirt. Don't tell anyone. Lots of rocks, dirt for my whore witch sister to be buried in. Either way, I'm out of here. This is a fun, fun episode.

I thought it was disturbing. Oh, I really enjoyed it. There was torture, baby, it was fun time. The bodily harm was great. We could both agree on that. Might be the name of this episode. Great bodily harm. All right, folks, on that note, thanks for supporting the show.

Make sure you vote, visit the creepoff. to vote this week on who you thought brought the breaker creep follow us on instagram at creepoff pod follow us on twitter at creepoff pod and i got to say that dude who did that poster of you me the axis powers the axis powers is great mr fucking fuji as fixed japanese stepfather very funny very well done so well done very well i love it so much thank you on that note it's nice to be important it's more important to be nice Leave us a voicemail 585371.808. I forgot that part.

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