The Creep Off - Episode 134: What's a Ponzi Scheme?

Episode Date: October 10, 2022

 This week Karl and Vinnie mow down the Motor City by nominating the biggest creeps from Detroit. This one might be hard to listen to, especially if you like cats: We prove that our show is better than “True Crime Obsessed”: In the Scum Parade we meet a principle that liked to sneak a peek, a pilot with a bucket list and a poor man who went on a truly terrible tinder dateCheck out this week's Scum Parade stories:Former Principal Danny McEaddy Was Peeping Tom at Night: Police – NBC10 Philadelphia (nbcphiladelphia.com)Pilot sues Southwest after colleague exposes himself (yahoo.com)Colo. woman allegedly duct taped, choked Tinder date with belt, threatened him, then ordered delivery | Truecrimedaily.comTexas woman convicted of killing a woman to take her unborn baby (click2houston.com)

Welcome to the Creep-Off. This is a competition where the host, Carl and Vinny, try to find the creepiest creep in any given category. Then you, the voter, head over to the subreddit and try to cheat for your favorite host. After five losses, the loser has to spin the dreaded wheel of consequences, which includes funny consequences like getting a job in fast food or putting on a live show in Detroit. Could you imagine? Last week, we paid tribute to the unsung heroes of the creepball. The male stripper. And because there was a hurricane that barreled through here, I don't remember what the score is anymore, so I hope you both lose. Anyways, that's all I got for this week. Tucker, out.

Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo! Welcome to the Motor City.

All our industry is dying. Our football team went 0 in 16. All that's left is Marshall Mathers. see m and m he's all we got left CREPOs. Welcome to another edition of your favorite true cry podcast, the show about creeps, buy creeps for you creeps. I'm your host. My name is Vinnie and joining me in the studio today. It's hot cuckaca carla. Happy to be back. What has happened in Vinnie Paulino? Pal, I am thrilled to be back in the studio with you. You seem to be in a relatively good mood.

Things are good, buddy. I like this one o'clock start. I get to eat lunch before I come over here. I'm feeling good. This is great. Carl, I'm with the one o'clock start. yes that's the new rule new rule one o'clock on mondays that's it baby now before we go too far under the show i got to throw in a cheap plug for those of you who don't know the zombie carl and viny t-shirts are on sale till till october 18th i made sure that the first t-shirt that we sold has carl's face on it because he hates that also i want to plug if you want to see vini and myself and the whole cast of characters from who are these podcasts including brian johnson from telling him Steve Dave, Anthony Coomia

from the Anthony Coomia show. We got E. Rock, Missy B. We're going to be in New York City this Saturday night at the City Winery in Chelsea and Manhattan. WATP, NYC.com is where you can get tickets for that show and learn more about it.

It's going to be a great time. And I'm not going to fuck the audio up, Vinny. Not this time, buddy. By God, I hear it's going to be a slob knocker in Manhattan. It's going to be a good time. We'll be hanging out. Carl's taped. Carl's hands are taped. We're hanging out front.

Friday night. I heard from Chrissy Mayer that she might be hanging out this Friday, so it's going to be fun. Oh. Way to sell it for everyone. All right. Carl, we're back in the studio. Yeah. The last episode we did in studio, we brought in the creepiest male stripper. Yes. And I have the results of that. And I got to say, I'm not real happy. Yeah, when I get 64 to 58. Yeah, baby. Cuzz-a-Roo! Cuzz-a-Roo! Yeah, baby! That's fucking bullshit.

Another victory for the good guys. I like it. I had a funnier stripper story than yours. I think that's why I won. Yeah, my guy was definitely worse, though. He was, like, tying people up and making them live in a closet while he raped them, and then his trans roommate would come by and make him suck his dick. I mean, voting's close, buddy.

I don't know what you want to do here. What are you trying to accomplish? I guess make people vote for you feel bad? I don't know what I'm doing right now. What's the score right now, buddy? I believe it is 1-1. I don't even know. Let me look here.

I just had this open and I love for God. Sorry, guys. Yeah, no, I've lost track too because we had a week where we're in Detroit. We kind of just did a scum parade episode. So I'm a little bit lost right now. It's where things are at. At this point, Carl, I have one, you have one, and our guests have one. Okay.

Got it. So your current consequence is getting a job at a fast food restaurant. That is correct. So I have a job. Oh, congratulations. I just have to schedule my shift. No shit. Do you want to say where?

Rhinos pizza. Okay. Home of the pickle pizza. Where is that rhinos pizza? It's in Webster. Okay. All right. I'll stop by.

Fucking disgusted. Yeah, pickle, that's not pizza. People are monsters. They're fucking assholes. Whoever came up with this. There's a real bunch of dickheads. Yeah. And I really, I, you know, I was thinking to myself about this and everybody's like,

that's not a fast food restaurant. There's a couple, a little bit of the feedback I heard, but it's fine. I'm actually thinking about this. I would rather go work at a fucking Popeye's on Lake Avenue. That would be funny. Go deal with pickles on pizza. That would be really funny. I didn't even think of that.

Popeyes on Lake. That's actually a world famous joint because of local news reporting here. Oh, old Rachel Barnhart really brought that stuff. story. Didn't she? That's great. All right. So that's going to be fun. You got to pick your shift. What are you going to do it, do you think? I got to talk to her this week. I'll text her tomorrow. Good, because I want to be there. I want to film evidence of this, and I want this to be another thing where you're not actually there. Oh, I'll do the job. I'll work a regular shift. I'll do what I'm supposed to do because that's what the people's champ does, folks.

Okay, if you say so. America needs a hero. And I am that hero. All right, cool. Yeah. Any other housekeeping? Are we ready to get several. with the show. Carl, I could not be more excited to go back and visit the city that we just left that I couldn't wait to get out of Detroit. Yes, we are doing the creepiest creep from Detroit is the category this week. And I guess because I won, I'm going to start. Can it be whoever owned that Airbnb that you got us? That was a nice place. All right. Okay, there was one problem with it. So there's full baths upstairs, one upstairs, one downstairs. I don't know the broken windows, the gun shop. Oh, Ferndale's a very nice neighborhood. That was a nice town. I enjoy.

it there. Here's the thing, though. There was a toilet upstairs, a toilet downstairs. If you flush the toilet upstairs, a toilet downstairs would explode and all of the water in the toilet would go shooting out of it. So if anyone was like sitting on the can downstairs and so it upstairs, it turns into a bidet, but not a good kind of bidet, a bidet with your shit in it. So it was a little messy. It's a backwards bidet. A backwards bidet. A little messy. It's called an Australian bidet. Yeah. All I have is shit in my ass while I want to get something. on my cheeks too oh we have something for that oh good can we do me favor make sure some splashes

i'm the back of my balls too that'll be great i just see the entire undercarriage just coated please awful they usually charge extra for that not at this place uh i was just corrected by gangrenously our oracle i have two carl has one and the guest has one so fuck Alex no he knows everything he's the oracle i think it's one to one to one i'm not losing a point i'll go back and look officially we'll figure it out we'll figure it out officially i won't cheat you. I will never cheat you, Carl, I would never cheat you. I would never ever do it, buddy. Good point. So I guess you want, so you get to go first. Who's your biggest creep from Detroit? Carl.

All right. Let's get this thing started. I found a very fun creep. His name is Mike Scoopin. And Mike Scoopin is from Detroit. What a whimsical last name. And he is a reality TV star. In fact, he was on the show Survivor twice. And I I found a guy named Rob Woolchek from Fox 2, Detroit. The man, ladies and gentlemen. This guy is an investigative journalist, the kind you don't see too often anymore. You should really go subscribe to his YouTube channel. It's fantastic.

I have some clips from this guy because he decided to track down what Mike's scooping is up to. Let's start. I brought some video clips today, but if you're listening, you'll understand just fine. Let's start with the number one here, Vinnie. And Mike's scooping. If I go what I'm going out for. Who stabbed a pig to death to survive in season number two is one of Survivor's most memorable contestants.

You know the need to shed some blood. Survivor changed Mike Scoopin's life forever. And now, Mike Scoopin wants to change your life forever with Pay It Forward, a simple investment. People say, how can it be legal? What's the product? The product's just money. So he's got a business called Pay It Forward,

and people are asking, what is the product? What are you selling people? Nothing. It's just money. Now, Vinnie, I don't know if you know this, but there's only one entity that's allowed to make money in the United States. That's the Federal Reserve. Right.

So the fact that this guy has a company that's just based on money. And I know that Chuck E. Cheese also mince those coins. That's true. That's a good point. Yep. Put Putt Golf, I think, has their own. Anyway. Disney dollars.

The point is that it seems a little shady this page. it forward company. And that's why Rob Wollcheck wanted to get on this. But first, let's learn a little bit more of the background. So we know this guy was on Survivor, but let's learn a little bit more about our buddy Mike Scoopin in my track, too. The dose of reality I'm going to put

on TV. Mike Scoopin is a star. He's the author of a book, Fireproof, named for his most famous Survivor exploit when he passed out in a campfire. And although he wanted to get him, continued had to be medevacked off the island. Thousands of people follow him on Twitter.

His website is packed with photos of himself with Bill Gates, President Bush, Pat Robertson. You can buy customized Mike's scoop and survivor shirts. He even sells an 8 by 10 glossy of himself. Mike's a motivational speaker. How to get closer to God. How to get your prayers into. He talks about his victories in life. It even speaks at events like this one two months ago.

Celebrate your marriage. Oh. but I have to tell you about blended family. Yeah, you can get marriage advice from Mike. His bio says, Karen and I have seven amazing kids. Mike's so popular, he even considered running to be a United States senator.

But Mike's too adventurous for that. He went back to Survivor, played another season a couple of years ago. But again, he didn't win the show. But he did win more fans, and now his fans can share in his new business, if they have a little money. I have paid so much money in home-based business

I've visited for 33 years And you don't have to sell anything But the product's money The product's just money You just hand over your money to Mike Deposit it into Mike Scoopin's fifth third bank account Bank of America bank account Or his Chase bank account

Cough up some dough And you'll get put on this kind of pyramid-looking chart Carl Are you telling me that people are taking money advice On the asshole who fell in the fire pit? Yes! This guy literally passed out into a fire pit woke up and ran into the water because he was on fire and that's how he lost he was the first contested ever on survivor who wasn't voted off but just

took himself out of the game oh no i was just told there was an echo on that clip but i think i'll figure it out all right so this is great so this guy is a motivational speaker so right there you're like uh what's that about he's a family man a reality tv star a business owner the problem is the business is the definition of a Ponzi scheme. Basically, what happens is whenever there's 24 people who donate money after you donate yours, you go up a level and then 24 more, you go up another level. And then you get to a certain level that's called the money seats. And then once you're in the money seats, as people put money in, you get that money,

which is a Ponzi scheme. This is the way he describes it. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Now, wait. Is it not a Ponzi scheme? if there's like vitamins involved like if you just got a product involved if there's tupperware involved or just something it's legal then it's legal yes you can't have a business just based on people giving money and then you give that money to some people and not another's like that's not

it's how business works like yeah i was going to say fake business is more of a business than that business i'm mr businessman from the business business business yeah give me money why because it's a business yeah it's perfect need money all right so set up for my next clip here is that it turns out Mike Scoopin is probably the last guy you want to trust with your money as why he killed that pig to death yeah no that was impressive but rob actually does some investigating here all right bear with me everybody I'm going to try to figure out what this echo is while this is playing I'm going to hopefully get it real quick this is Mike's lakefront property or should I say it used to be Mike's property but Mike hasn't made a mortgage payment

in 18 months so the house was taken away and sold in a sheriff's sale last May. But Mike's refused to leave. Neighbors I spoke to want him out. They're tired of the rundown property and the bill collectors who come by. Like the people Mike stiffed from this Grand Rapids Elks Club golf course. Mike walked out on a $7,000 bill. He got sued and lost. In August of this year, the IRS slapped Mike with a $52,000 tax lien. So Mike's a big time tax dodger. But at least he's not a deadbeat dad. Well, actually, according to his second wife's bankruptcy filing, second wife, wait a minute, Mike Scoopin's the happily married guy with seven kids.

He might be happily married. After all, third time is a charm. He has seven kids from three different wives. And it hasn't all been smooth sailing. Just last week, Mike Scoopin tried to get sympathy from the judge overseeing his eviction case. saying he can't move out of the house he lives in because he has seven school-aged children. Well, none of his kids live with him in this house. Whoops, Daisy.

So there was a headline there that said the ex-survivor star attacked his ex-wife was also something they showed up on the screen. And this guy has so many driving infractions. He doesn't have a driver's license. It's been suspended. And they're going through the whole list of all these infractions. He has to go to court. He doesn't show up to court.

So there's bench warrants out for him. up. This guy's a real piece of shit. That's why he had to go to that island for that other season. Yeah, right. Get me down to Australia. Get me out of here. So now what's fast forward to Rob runs into this guy.

He's trying to track him down. He can't track him down even though he sees him in his house. He's pretending he's not home. He sent him a note on Facebook. Rob did to Mike Scoopin. And Mike Scoopin wrote back, I'm actually on the West Coast right now, but I'll be back, you know, sometime next week.

And Rob's like, I just saw you come out of your house to get your mail. What do you mean? So this is great because we finally confront him and he wants to talk to him about the nature of his company track for. What would you like to know? Well, tell me about it. It's an investment deal? No. Gee, it says it's a simple investment that will change your life forever. But Mike now says it's an internet cycler, whatever that is.

There's hundreds of them all over the internet run by very reputable people. They've been going around for years. Mm-hmm. Who's a reputable person that's running one? Mike Lindell? There's hundreds of them. I don't know the business owners. So what is the business?

Internet cycler, which you don't know anything about, which I... Okay, well, then why don't you tell me? So we could have had a good interview here. Okay, well, let's have a good interview. I'm giving you the chance. Let's talk. I don't know if you really are. Sure.

I'm giving you the chance right now. You're an ambusher. So what? You're an ambusier. Yep. No shit. Here I am. Tell me what your business is.

What do you do? Explain it. Yeah. What the fuck is Internet Cycler? So I looked this up because I never heard Internet Cycler. And it actually, it's called like a Matrix scheme. When you look up Internet Cycler, there's a bunch of names for it. And what it is, it's a Ponzi scheme.

It's, I know. It's just another name for it. It's literally just says Internet Cycler Equalside Ponzi scheme. Yeah, that shows up and look it up. Yeah, it's not anything more than that. So here's, here's track number five. Alright. Not a Ponzi scheme.

Okay. What is the business then? I don't even know what a Ponzi scheme is. Do you? Yes, I do know what a Ponzi scheme is. And this looks like a Ponzi scheme. Now I start reading directly from Mike's Pay It Forward literature. The Attorney General assures us we are in complete compliance.

Which Attorney General said this? Do your research. Who said this? Do your research, Rob. Mike, I've done my research. I've been to the Attorney General's office. It's a legitimate business. legitimate business. And you know what? I'm helping hundreds and hundreds of people. And people like

you, instead of doing legitimate research, you're out for a new story. I don't think you're helping anybody, Mike. How are you helping anybody? All right. So from what I understand, Rob Wolleck is a lawyer. Oh, is he? Yeah. Well, he seems to know his shit, man. He's great. Yeah. He, like, practices law and does this just because he hates people like this so much. It's awesome. I mean, he's a real fucking hero. Rob Wollack, man. Yeah. And I... Two thumbs up. I saved the best for last. So they're chasing this guy, well, not chasing him, but they confront him as he's leaving the court.

And this guy is trying to walk away from him towards his car. But he doesn't have a driver's license. I'm like, where are you going to your car? So he just like keeps walking and he doesn't know where to go. And he's just like wandering around. So this is the funniest part of the video track six. You're losing your house. I can't even hate this.

You're a bomb. Like, you are a bum. You don't pay for your house. You don't even have a driver's license. You're walking to your car right now. You're going to get in your car. You don't even have a driver's license. You don't have a house.

You lied to me about, you don't live in that house, yet you're here fighting to save that house. You're a loser. You were a loser on Survivor. Don't you a loser on Survivor? And now you're using whatever fame you got from Survivor to try to work people into your investment deal so you can make money so you can survive. You're a loser. You're a bum. Who wrote this fucking copy, Trump?

I love it. You're a loser. You lost that survivor. You losing everything you do. Wow. I knew there was a reason I thought it was so funny. Rob, you're the best. All right.

So let me give you an update since that little expose. So he is accused of recruiting investors and friends to take part in his grifting scheme called Pay It Forward. Victims allegedly made $10,000 cash investments in the scheme. Their money would then cycle through a chart in which participants were eventually paid out of other new investors' money. the scheme was discovered when eventually Definition of Ponzi scheme. Yeah, exactly. The scheme was discovered

when eventually there were no new investors signing and most people in the scheme lost all of their money. So this is the best part, Vinnie. But the guy survived the fire pit, honey. This is the best part. We just got a mail on this stack of 20s. So some people who invested $10,000

went to the attorney general and said, I don't think this is a legit business. They just took my money. I got nothing in return. So they decided to investigate this. Scoopin's laptop was search in conjunction with the Ponzi scheme investigation. During the search, investigators discovered images

of underage children in sexual situations. A guy had CP on his computer on top of all of this. In 2016, Mike was charged for six counts of child porn possession, five counts of larceny and one count of racketeering for allegedly running a Ponzi scheme. This is what Michigan Attorney General Bill Shuet said. Not only did this man rob people of their hard-earned savings with his financial scams, but he victimized

innocent children every time he looked at a piece of child pornography. This man seems to have no concept or caring for right and wrong and will be prosecuted under the full extent of the law for these horrific crimes. In December of 2016, Michael Scoopin was sentenced to one to four years in prison for child pornography and larceny. I'm sad to say he was released on parole on December 19th, 2017 after serving just one year in prison. Well, isn't that

great for everyone? That is my creep from Detroit. Mark scoopin the survivor who is a real piece of shit well what do you got vittie my creep today folks made me pretty sick to my stomach and the story is awful so there's your trigger warning i'm going to let local uh detroit local four fill you in carl a grisly scene greeted police at a home in rochester hills they were called to the residents on a report of animal cruelty now this man David Who is facing charges. You think with a name like that, you would be a doctor. Not this guy.

Not this guy, folks. What's his name? His name is David Who. No, what is his name, though? We have that. David Who. On first, what's on second. I don't know's on third.

That's what I want to find out. I want you to tell me the names and a fellas on a St. Louis team. I'm telling you. He's on first. What's on second? I don't know his own third. You know the fellow's names? Yes.

Well, then who's playing first? I mean, the fellow's name on first base. David who? The fellow playing first base for St. Louis. David who? The guy on first base. David who is on first? What are you asking me for?

All right. Huber is fun. Humor is fun. Okay. I can make fun of this guy's name all day. All right. You were out of me. Go ahead.

But in the spring of 2017, a gentleman by the name of William Lau and his little kitten Oreo needed a roommate. Here's a picture of Oreo. It's a real black and white. Oh, that's a cute kitty right there. There's Oreo. We'll leave her up there for the rest of this.

This is cheating. What's great is Craigslist helped him find a new roommate. Who recently moved into the mobile home park after replying to a Craigslist ad for roommate. Investigators say prior to the roommate said he never felt unsafe or had problems with who. Okay. So far, so good. Well, one day, William Lau came home and he walked into his room and he starts hearing this loud pounding noise. And he can't figure out what this pounding noise is or what his roommate would be doing.

This is a trailer. He's just going, what does this guy do it? So he goes into the other room. This is his description. He had Oreo in one hand and a hammer in the other. William Lau described the horrifying moment he realized the pounding he heard from the other room was his roommate bashy little Oreo's head in. Lau says he tried to get his roommate to stop and to give him Oreo back and to calm down. Do you want this show to be successful, Vinny?

What are he doing? Hugh refused. He tried to get physical, but he tried to get physical. but who pushed him back, it started swinging the hammer. After about 10 minutes of pleading, Lowe says his roommate started to hit the kitten again, and that's what he felt fled the home and called 911. Hey, real quick, do you have any more clips you're going to play?

So the cops come in, and they find David Who, they're with the cat, and they're like, I have the body cam audio of them finding David Who with the cat. Sorry, folks. I'm back 12 still Bound up on a head Bang bang maxwell still I'm finished

I'm finished Splat Okay, that wasn't the real audio. Jeff, I'm putting that together, Vinny? I did have a silly time. I'm not going to lie, it was a silly time. Now, during the interview of the detectives say the suspect stated he was angry with the cat because it bit and scratched him several times.

Sheriff officials said he told detectives that he felt pain and decided just to let out his anger. Who was charged with killing and torturing an animal, a felony punishable by up to four years in prison? he was placed at a suicide prevention vest at the time of his booking. Why? Exactly right. Fucking give him the hammer. Put him in his cell. Go ahead it, fucking kid.

Here's a rope. Here's some sheets. Here's, uh... And here's the thing. I don't ever know what happened to this guy. I cannot find any record of him being convicted. So I'm guessing that he pled out or they put him in a nut hut. Either way, fucking Oreo was the victim.

And, uh, when you go to vote this week, make sure you vote for David. David? Thank you. You might get zero votes this week, Vinny. That was a horrible presentation. Horrific story, not fun for anyone. And let me just see what Bill O'Reilly thinks about it. Fucking thing sucks.

Agreed. All right, Oreo. Agreed. All right. Okay, you could vote for the guy who had the Ponzi scheme or the guy who bashed little Oreo's skullet. Sounds good. Sounds good, Vinny. Are you ready for the newest segment of the Krip of?

I couldn't be more ready, back. Yeah. Creepos. This is who are these creepos? This is our attempt to prove to you that this is the only true crime show you'll ever need. We have the best true crime show on the internet. By a mile. By a mile.

Country mile. And the way that we prove this is by looking at other true crime podcasts one of the time and showing you why they suck. And you could think that I could go after all these young women who drink wine with their girlfriends on the phone and pretend that they have a true crime show. And we will. We'll eventually get to that. point every single one of them but but last week or two weeks ago we did my favorite murder huge

show yep this week don't forget we did uh nancy grace at the live show nancy grace at the live show last week on who are these podcasts people would have loved to hear that we need to bring her back again wow i subscribe to hear that i subscribe to her show now and i listen to it every day because she puts out a new episode every day and every one of them is what's it like when your child doesn't come home from school. This lady I'm going to talk to is going to tell you all about it. Well, I tell her how dead her kid is. And then she always makes it about her too.

Well, when my son was seven, this isn't about you, Nancy. Who cares? Shut up. Anyway, today we're going to be talking about true crime obsessed with Patrick Heinz and Jillian Pensavali. Now, this is a podcast, very popular. If you want to look up how much they make on Patreon, I think they have like 40,000.

and 50,000 subscribers on Patreon. $40,000? Yeah, it's paying subscribers. So, five bucks per. Jesus Christ. It's insane. And what they do is they watch true crime documentaries and then their show is about the doc that they watched.

So literally you could just go watch these docs, but their show is telling you what they saw in the dock. This is the laziest version of true crime I've ever heard. Carl, not Edward R. Murrow compared to these fucking people. Thank you. That's what I've been trying to tell everyone. It's in my bio. The Edward R. Murrow, True Crime.

Yes. So they watched this true crime show, the curse of Von Dutch. Familiar with that? Nope. Okay. Well, I'm telling you that because in this introduction, you cannot make out what the fuck Patrick is talking about. He's talking so fast.

I did not speed this up. This is literally what their show sounds like. You ready to be shot out of a cannon right now? of any? Nope. Hi, Jillian Pins of Alley. Hi, Patrick Hyne. Fam, as Julia was saying, we are doing these three episodes

of the Curse of the Von Dutch in two episodes. It's the thing we do sometimes where episode one, you're listening to it. Yes. Episode two is live right now at the $5 level, ad free on the Patreon.

It'll also be the regular episode next week. So if you just got to hear about like what happens on the second half of this nonsense. It is a wild ride. It is a wild ride. Start to finish. The murder is what happens

like in the last 10 minutes of this thing and it is wild. You know who that sounds like? Who's the sound like? Remember that Ian Carmel? No. That we did on your show. He has the all list everything show.

Oh, yes. Yeah. The voice sounds like that, but way more annoying. Well, this guy is very flamboyant, very openly gay, thinks he's hilarious at all times, laughs at fucking everything.

And the dynamic between these two is so obnoxious and absurd. The energy level, like I make fun of podcasts without having any energy. I do dislike that. This is too far. This is so over the top.

It's so obnoxious. So they set up their show by promoting their TikTok. Also, follow us on TikTok. If you want to see the fun recorded moments of the episodes, follow us on the to talk. It's a true crime obsessed pod. Great.

Okay, if we had a TikTok, it would literally be just vile crime scene photos. Yeah. Which is what, isn't that what true crime podcast is supposed to? What fun are they? Oh, dude. We got to get the behind the scenes fun. I don't know.

if you could pull up their TikTok or not I didn't fucking putting that in my browser I didn't set you up for that so that's fine but I went and checked it out a little bit and it's literally just 20 second videos of them with their little goofy parts of their show going ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

It's unwatchable it's unwatchable but you know what though Vinny TikTok's at our speed you know we're older guys we're not on the TikTok we're not on the TikTok you know we might get involved involved in their Facebook, their Facebook group.

Bonus there is you get to meet like 50,000 cool other friends. Yeah. And it's like a fun place to decompress and share true crime stories and talk about the episodes and just like share your dog picks. Yeah, I feel like I'm just saying yeah, I'd agree with you a lot. But everything you're saying is facts, so I really can't argue with you. Well, you look perfect today. You look perfect today.

Thank you so much. What is going on here? Get to the murder already. Jesus Christ, dude. It's insane. Carl, this sounds like the. they're doing something right somewhere and I can't figure out what the fuck it is for the life of me. We've covered this show and heard of these podcasts. I've listened to a lot of

I can't figure it out. Is it the dog pictures? Maybe it's the dog pictures. People are sharing in the Facebook group. That must be it. How sad is that? They literally says if you join our Facebook group, you'll make 50,000 new friends. That's not how friendship works. 50,000. Yeah, that's not what that's not what friends are. Sign old gill up right now. I know, I know people in my family who think they have friends in Australia and other places on Facebook. Those are not your friends. That's terrible. It's not healthy. Social

media is not healthy at all. It's not good. So make sure you follow the creep off on Instagram and Twitter. Yeah. All right. So let's get into this because this whole doc takes place in the early 2000s. Paris Hilton's a big part of this dock. And so

they talk about how it brings you back to that time. This whole thing starts with the producer tosses. the Von Dutch hats. To everybody. We need a thousand people. I'm like, they went for a look here. They thought that was going to look real cool. Yeah, for every...

Because it is a little bit of a time machine, much like the soundtrack. Is a time machine. Does she mean time capsule? Minnie, do you know what a time machine is? It's a machine... A device that one would use to travel through time. Correct.

The forwards are back. Correct. Thank you, Betty. I didn't even set you up for that one. You already do the definition of a time machine. She goes, wow. Did you hear the soundtrack? It's like a time machine.

That's not what a time machine is, idiot. All right. So, let's listen to Patrick laugh like a retard. Not enough gays, though. You would think there'd be more gays than this stuff. I didn't see Naria 1. Because they knew. They knew right away.

Not falling for this shit. The gays. The Vondutch look was very hot. And that's how you know it's fake, too, because he could stop it on a dime. And by the way, I also want to say that this is so over the top, so fake. There's nothing natural about these people. It's not real. in any single way they're putting this on you know what if you want to just vote for that guy

is our creep this week I'll put him as an option out I don't like this car oh listen to this listen to this ugh could you imagine could you imagine having a co-host on your show who laughs like that you know what everybody

let me give you a pallet cleanser let me give you a pallet cleanser here after that you beat a cat Let's go back to the cat diet I'm just saying I would rather listen to that that this guy laugh All right

So then they talk about how In this documentary There's this guy who's like laying in his bed As he's being interviewed for this And it's pointed out That you can see There's a bottle of something in the bed And to Patrick Heinz

This is the funniest thing He's ever heard in his life He loses his fucking mind over this But what I don't know Clearly you missed this Because as he's like taking the blanket off the bed, there's, like, a bottle of something that, like, is it loop? Is it lotion? I don't know, but I hate it all. Oh, no! And the camera, like, kind of

zooms in on it, but, like, doesn't want to make a thing about it. Can you imagine the situation where... Did he just say the situation? I don't fucking fight this guy. Did he just say the situation? Listen, we've all agreed that if you don't want to see the whole word situation, you say the sitch. We've all agreed on that. It's not a situation. Yeah, this is, like, one of those this is like three layers of new sling that i'm not comfortable with we've all agreed on that dude listen to him but what i don't i would hope that he's witnessing a murder with this scream at all oh no and the camera like kind of zooms in on it but like doesn't want to make a thing about it i have a feeling if that man was being stabbed to death it would be less dramatic right

yeah he would he would handle it better you really turning it on there pal really turning it on i'm just picturing both of his hands are up like fists going like this Like that spaskin we were talking about on Booker-in-up podcast. Spazkin. All right. All right, they suck, Carl. All right, let's get time for show tunes.

You can't have a gay guy to gal doing a show about true crime without busting into some show tunes, can you? That was a big thing, like, a long time ago. How do you know? Because, like, the 50s and I saw a little movie called Grease and Grease 2. Hand job, hand job.

But no, like Hot Rod's Griesletting go. Grease letting go. That song's not for kids. These two's a better movie. Anyway, it's better. Point is. But you know what the best movie musical of them all? Which one?

Newsies. Oh, of course. Open the gates and seize the day. Oh, where'd that go? Don't be afraid and don't delay. Oh, I don't know where we are here. It can break us. When did it turn into people enjoying people who have no talent?

When did that become a thing? When did people just accept people making noise? into microphones and considerate entertainment. I don't know. Minnie, I remember falling in love with the Ope and Anthony show because they came on the air here in the afternoons and I heard Jim Norton say some of the funniest, meanest, wittiest shit. I've ever heard a human being say.

I was like, what is this? Wow. This is awesome. Nowadays, you can just have two retards singing out of key and giggling at each other and that's a huge show. I'm very upset. Also, she said grease too is better than Greece.

What are you just trying to be fun? That's bullshit and you know it. Don't fucking come at me with that nonsense. I'm not hearing that. Grease, too. It's a garbage movie. I've never seen either. Yeah, me neither.

Really, I have it and I'm really happy. Grease is a great movie. Very good music. Good, Carl. Anyway. Hey, listen, I like what, where to go, Captain Wow said. This guy squeals like Ned Flanders.

Yes. There's that episode. All right, this is, let's get more singing going. shall we? No one can make us give our rights away. Here we go. Arise and seize the dead.

Buhr-D-R-Bah-Buh-Buh-Buh-Boo. Minnie, I can see you're at your wits end. So I'm going to wrap this segment up. And I want to wrap it up with a revelation because any true crime show, if you're just like reporting on shit that you saw on TV, you're not really doing, you're not adding anything to the world, right? So I need them to have some information. that they can give us

that I wouldn't have known otherwise this is amazing they're talking about Paris Hilton and I just have it on good authority from people who attended those parties which I bartended so I met Paris Hilton many times she was always very nice to me but apparently she's a big fucking asshole

I have it on good authority so I went to high school on the Upper East Side as did Nikki Hilton and Paris I was not there so this is absolute hearsay but I have been told that they actually have said like don't you know who our grandfather is Oh, my God.

That's what I've heard. Hey, it turns out Paris Hilton's an asshole. You don't say. Wow. Shocking. I had no idea. Huh. Thank you for that revelation, guys.

I want to sing a song. I don't care. I don't care. So that is this week's, who are these creepos? Once again, proving that our show, the creepop is the best true crime podcast on the internet today. There wasn't even a. crime they didn't even talk about a crime well they get into it i just i guess the episode in itself is a true crime it is yes it's criminal what they're doing the amount of money they're making doing

that they did a three-part series on this one doc of a bond dutch whatever gives a shit uh well i guess that means it's time for some voicemails that are brought to you by our friends in syracuse the creepoff voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of syracuse people make fun of Syracuse, but I'll have you know Rochester is ranked 14th in families that make 10K or less a year. Huh, good luck catching us at number two. See you in Syracuse. Families making 10K or less per year, that's homeless people. Pretty much.

Like, how do homeless people even make 10K? I'm sure they do. I remember there was an interesting study that was done that this was years ago. It's probably not the same now. But homeless in New York City were pulling. down like 30K on average just from begging 30k a year wow yeah now there's way too many of them so i don't know if that's still the case i think it's probably not but oh no they unionize they got benefits oh right 30k in benefits they all have a fucking smartphone you ever notice

that how does that happen who's signing off on that plan yeah you look like you're good for it all right we'll give you the unlimited data they got to be on fucking like boost mobile or some shit yeah yeah it's up horizon or they bought fucking uh burners Maybe. All right. Here's a voicemail. Fuck that one up. Hey, guys. It's D.P. Did you guys already do the creepiest German? If not, please do it. If so, please do one again.

I just spent six hours in the truck picking up some German foreign exchange students. And holy shit. There has to be more than a couple creeps out there because that whole fucking culture. Oh, man. What happened? weird is there more to that could he give an example i'm not sure what what he's getting at there hold on a sign let's try this germans are something to laugh about and be happy about with the germans because the culture i don't get the culture there is no humor there so i desperately need something to laugh about and be happy about with the germans because holy shit that was miserable

anyhow thank you fuck you bye okay that is true the germans are not known for their sense of humor that is very true there wasn't like i would love to see like the german benny hill yeah it wouldn't even be in fast motion like he just grabs him by the hair and say you'll submit yeah i got a voicemail for us minnie all right go ahead hey carl i don't know if this should be for the creep off or for fucking w a tp but i'm watching your latest episode with vini and i'm actually watching the video because i'm a patreony but viny i'm a big guy too but for the love of christ you can't be a big guy with a chin strap beard, a gold chain, and a Miami Dolphins t-shirt.

You look like a fucking douchebag. Pick two of the three for the love of God. I love you, buddy, but fuck that you look like a gigantic fucking cock. Perfect voicemail, sir. Keep those coming. That's well done. Thank you for your input. What happened to the dolphins yesterday?

They're down to their third string quarterback. They lost the New York Jets? we're not allowed to do sports talk there's like 900 voice mails here yelling us about sports talk really but i will say that the bills won by 35 points we don't we can't talk about that she pittin motherfuckers you know what i notice about the bills what's that bitty that the referees your team is hurt and they're still destroying other teams oh now you're now your backups are so great our backups are so great you couldn't beat miami but i will say this to you i think that josh allen is now getting the tom Brady treatment from refs.

Oh, yeah? If they touch Josh Allen, the flags are flying. I didn't see that happen. Mm-hmm. When, when, he's the new darling of the league. Okay, I didn't see that. Little Joshie Allen, you can't touch little Joshy. Josh Allen doesn't slide.

Josh, he's got his lunchbox and he's ready to go to Bill's trading camp. Joshua was through linebackers. He's no Tom Brady. Are you kidding me? Little Joshy at his lunchbox. He's stiff arms linebackers. Hey, guys, I'm Josh. Can I play on your team?

Okay. How's Tua doing? Can he form a sentence yet? Who fucking? knows. I'm pretty sure he's going to kill his whole family now. Yeah, no shit. Chris Benoit Part 2 coming up. Oh, man. Why do all the people I love have to go rogue?

Damn it, CTE. No more sports talk. Hey, guys. I love the show, but I'm going through a bit of a rough time and the topics are dark and this might be my last voicemail. Best of luck guys and see you the next life. Oh, no. He's not going to Greenland, is he? I think he was heading to Detroit Even worse

Fuck that hurt Never mind guys I'm here to stay Oh god Mental illness can literally drive you crazy It's a good point Well whoever you are sir Chin up

Mental illness can literally drive you crazy Chin up pal At least you're not little Oreo You really are trying to scare people away from the show I don't know what your goal is here What do you mean scare people away from the show? No one of us to hear stories about kittens getting tortured you idiot i want to win the game carl yeah you're not going to do with that one it's the game

it's not a good okay not a good strategy wait a second the the point of the voting is to vote for the biggest creep correct who's the bigger creep the guy who was looking at cp bilking people out of money yep all right good or or the guy who bashed kids call it for no reason let's stop rehashing that one because he scratched him maybe more voicemails over there no i don't know way too many voicemails this week we'll get back with them next week we're done unless you got another one Oh, no, I'm good. All right. Moving on.

I guess it's time for a scum parade. Hit the music, Carl. this week. To start. Yeah, right. A longtime educator with ties to Pennsylvania and South Jersey, who served as a school principal by day, was a peeping Tom at night, authority said. Danny McGady was denied release during the detention hearing Wednesday following the late September arrest police said he's charged with at least three peeping Tom incidents,

a burglary, and on at least one occasion unlawfully entering a home. All right. So this is my question for you. I'll let you read a little bit more. But why do they lead with peeping Tom? Yeah. It seems like the least of what this guy is up to. That's not the words. Like when I think of peeping Tom, I picture George McFly and back to the future. You know, he's up on the tree and he's got the binoculars out.

It's fun. Yeah, a guy who looks like Carlson and a tree of binoculars. That's what I think of when I think of peeping Tom. Me too. Trying to get a peek at a six through her bedroom window. Right. That was such a good description. trying to get a peek in a six

Because if you weren't such a loser You would go get a peep at a seven at the strip club Right, yeah, there's eights right across the street from here, I know Jesus Christ So Police say McKady unlawfully entered a Camden County woman's apartment With the goal of committing a burglary After watching her unload groceries in February

He's just like, oh, she's unloading groceries Hot Well, I mean, she just went to the store so there's probably some fresh food there, I guess. Okay, never mind. Right? I would be like fucking yogi bear following the smell. Yeah, you would have food.

She got a rotissary chicken. It's like how they say if you buy a new TV, you shouldn't put the cardboard box out by the curb because people will be like, oh, there's a new 85 inch O LED in there. It's, I guess it's the same thing with bringing to groceries. I don't know. I'm not a burglar. It must be a terrible neighborhood. He threatened her by grabbing her by the upper body and attempting to force her into the bedroom. All right.

So again, peeping just. Tom was the headline. This guy went in there to burglarize the place and decided to sexually assault this woman. Well, she fought back and she, he got away, he ran away. He ran out of the place. So the same Victor later installed a ring doorbell system, which caught, that was heavily thing. Caught this guy coming back and looking through her windows again.

Yeah. Whoops. Yeah. Now, investigators say the 39-year-old's actions became a pattern and usually happened at night. The crimes all happened in Sicklerville and Pittman, Pennsylvania. Winslow police carried out a warrant in September at his last known address, seizing the educator's computer and multiple cell phones. A source was knowledge of the rest, as McCadia has worked at several schools on both sides of the river. I don't know what the

fuck that means. It means he's in Philadelphia and South Jersey. So he was in Pennsylvania and Jersey. So he was also working as the principal of a school up until September of this year. They hired him August 1st and fired him within the month. Yeah. Before the school year started. Yeah. He was already gone. I have to say, Vinny, I don't understand why they're so focused on his profession in this one.

It's not like he's doing harm to children. So the fact that he works at a school is neither here nor there to me. Yeah. Like he's just an asshole. Who cares what he does for a living? I mean, I just assumed that the reason he probably ended up getting fired was because he was an incompetent who would do something like this to begin with. Right.

He's like, so listen, we need to organize the curriculum for this year. Where's the principal? Oh, he's just drilling peep holes in the locker room again. this fucking guy I mean it's great that they weeded them out though they were like

get the fuck out of here I'm glad for that yeah the creep alarm went off somewhere now let's head down to Florida show a second I've got to talk to you about the last sentence

in this story sure did you see what his attorney said what did his attorney say the attorney says his client feels wrongly accused did you see that

I just wanted a tour of the bedroom what do you mean you feel wrongly accused what what does that matter how you feel about it are you or are you not wrongly accused this guy's a principal in 2022 all right that's not a good word to use if you're trying to say you're innocent i just wanted to point that out okay you're right but that that that also screams fucking ultra pc yep yeah i feel like i'm being attacked here well yeah you are because you attacked that woman while she had her top off at her house you leave that four alone sir

All right, Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Yeah. This story scares the fuck out of me. You know that whatever we do, yes, yes. Interesting. Dude, I don't like to fly. Well, you know the planes fly themselves, right? Carl, God allows them to leave the earth and for us to get somewhere safely.

You have to pray before and after every flight. Did your name laws tell you that? Yes. That's where I learned it. Carl, though, seriously, this story is completely insane. And I don't know who I believe, but I think this might be in addition of hero or creep. I think I know who I believe, but go ahead. Okay, okay.

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Southwest Airlines pilot is suing the company, her union and a former colleague who pled guilty last year to dead bolting the cockpit door during a flight and stripping down naked in front of her. Yeah, it's called a cockpit for a reason. I don't know what you thought was going to happen. Yeah, the truth and advertising on Southwest. She looked at his dick and was like, oh, my God, did you pay the $35 carry-on fee? Oh, come on. That's a good line. Come on.

Christine Janning alleged the Southwest retaliated by grounding her after she reported Michael hacked to the company in the FBI that it kept him employed despite an alleged history of sexual misconduct and the manager's disparaged her in memos to other employers or employees. Sounds like she was a bit of a Karen at that company. Yeah, well, no one seemed to like her very much. When you hear what she says this guy did. Yeah, let's get to it. She alleges that the Southwest Airline pilots conspired with the airline and refused to support her as well. So, okay.

According to the lawsuit, she said she has never met this guy Hack before. Okay. And he was the co-pilot on a flight from Philadelphia to Orlando. She says that Hack, who's a 27-year veteran with the airline, had used his seniority rights the previous state to bump another pilot who have been scheduled to command the flight. Okay. So he's an older gentleman. Yep. Janney believes that that's because he saw a woman was scheduled to co-pilot. What does she think this guy is like, a woman fly to plane, I got to see this. Well, she might be on to something. He's had a few incidents in the past.

Yes, he has. He has. But she said they got onto the flight and he says to her, looks at it says, Hey, there's something I always wanted to try before my retirement. Yeah. She said he bolted the door so no flight attendant could enter. He then put the plane on autopilot, stripped off his clothes, began watching pornography on his laptop, and committed a lewd act for 30 minutes while taking photos and videos of himself. Wait a second.

Is that Hunter Biden flying that plane? Is that what I'm to believe here? He made me put on a gip mask and ate a sandwich off of my head while he flew the plane with his penis. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, this would be even more interesting than Tommy Lee driving the boat. If there is video on this, I'd like to see it.

Some fucking naked old guy cranking one out wearing a captain's hat. With who I'm guessing is probably a six. So at his... Sal Nick said it was Janning to ask Hack if there was anything. This is the defense attorney. Yeah, yeah. That she asked Hack if there was... anything he wanted to do before retiring when he replied he wanted to fly naked she told him to go

ahead and then made sexual advances after he disrobed okay that's what the lawyer says and then he fought her off yeah he rejected that and uh adamantly denied a lewd act occurred i i didn't do anything like so here we go vanny this is where i'm going to tell you who's telling the truth and who's not okay he's saying the truth detector that is carl he's saying she told him to get naked and then she tried to play with his cock and he refused. That's not a good story because that's literally never happened in the history of the world. Correct. That's never happened where

a girl's like, hey, take off your clothes like, all right, okay, I play with your dick now? No, of course not. Gross. Why would you do that? This guy definitely was jerking off next to this poor woman. At his sentence hearing last year a hack called the incident, quote, a consensual prank that got out of hand.

There's no such thing as a consensual prank. That's the definition of prank means it's not consensual. Something got in hand all right. Janney's attorney, Frank Podesta, denied she encouraged Hank or a hack or made any advances. Janine said in the lawsuit that she was horrified, but she kept flying the plane while taking photos to create a record. So she was just sitting there taking pictures of him fucking cranking it. I would have done the same thing.

Oh, God. But let's not pretend she's flying the plane. They already explained it's on autopilot. These people are not flying the plane, Vinny. I'm the pilot now. Yeah, look at me. Where's the makeup mirror? And we just lost the ruts of our listeners.

All right. Well, that was fun. This has been a good run. We had a good run. We had a good for a couple of years. It was good. Carl, thanks for everything. Let's get out here.

So Janet said his retaliation for the FBI report. She was grounded for more than three months, costing her part of her salary. She was then required to take unnecessary flight simulator training before she could go to work again. Yeah. Yeah, they pretty much wanted to make her life miserable for ratting on this guy. Yeah, Southwest denied Jennings' allegation, saying we immediately supported Janney by cooperating with the appropriate outside agencies as they investigated. I don't think that's true because, well, the problem is she waited until after he retired to say anything. So they're just like, what do you want us to do?

I mean, it's not an employee here anymore. What do you want? Well, if he stops by to drop off an application. Right, yeah, exactly. We'll consider that. It's like, well, what do you want us to do? We don't have any jurisdiction over him. He doesn't work here. So now she's suing in private. So then she goes to the FBI. and says, hey, this thing happened, gets them involved.

So that's the part I don't like of this story. I'll be honest. Yeah. Well, let's get to something happier, shall we? Oh, boy, do we have anything like that? Let's see. No, actually. Boy, lie.

Oh, sorry, folks. Let's get to something way more depressing. Okay. And slightly terrifying. If you're out there on the dating apps, good luck, kids. Have fun. Colorado Springs, Colorado. A 22-year-old woman was arrested after she allegedly invited a Tinder date

over to her house and then cut choked and threatened to kill him if he called for help i have to looking at this girl and just knowing what she's up to seems like anthony kumia's type i think he would be into this girl aunt fucking keep an eye on the gun yes don't lose the gun aunt so dispatch uh when this guy called for police dispatch reportedly told officers there was an open line in which someone in the background could be heard saying, because you cut me and you're going to kill me. So he called. He couldn't get them.

The phone's laying on the ground somewhere and he's yelling for help. They hear this. They send the cops. When the officers arrived, they found a naked man in the parking lot who was bleeding from a cut on his arm. He was reportedly backing away from the suspect named Lauren Dooley, who also reportedly had blood on her body. Officers took Dooley into custody, but she refused to talk after invoking her Miranda rights.

now here's what happened the victim whose name was redacted from the affidavit reportedly told police he matched with Dooley on the dating app Tinder and agreed to go to her apartment they talked for a bit and then she reportedly performed oral sex on him so far so good yeah do you know how we always try to pull the plug early on an episode on a good joke yeah hey thanks for having me over that worked out really well nice to meet you miss Dooley take your hat off she's 22 she's kind of cute she is kind of cute

Julie allegedly bound his hands and ankles together with duct tape and he initially consented but found it odd All right. Call me old fashioned Vinnie But for me getting tied up a duct tape, not a first date thing And my house the man does the duct tape aid Not on the first date, maybe the third Let's watch a movie first Yeah

Let's get to know each other Yeah let's get the bondage into this later Right So after she taped his arms and legs She produced a kitchen knife It demanded he'd get into her bedroom Okay. Which, you know, easier said than done when you have your legs taped together.

And that's when he said, This is going great. After that, the victim reportedly, this is my favorite quote, no longer consented to stay at the residence. Can I go now? I've already ejaculated in your mouth and I'm kind of done here. The victim went into her bedroom because he was afraid he would hurt her. And Dooley allegedly cut his shoulder with the knife.

Then she allegedly used both of her hands to apply direct pressure to the victim's throat for approximately 20 seconds. It's called strangling him and both of her hands to apply pressure. Strangle them, yeah. Correct. She allegedly stopped momentarily

only to procure a belt that she put around his neck. This is getting me nowhere. Hold on a second. Yeah. So she's got the belt that she's got like one foot on his back. She fucking pulled it up.

She's smart enough to use tools. Oh, no. Oh my God, she has thumbs. Dooley reportedly got angry at the victim for bleeding all over the bed. That is annoying. When you have your Tinder date over, they fucking bleed all over your bed. Like, I've got to change the sheets now.

It's the whole thing. You think they'd warn you. Right. Like, they know. They know what days it is. That's not. It was the guy who was bleeding at the bed. Let's not get confused.

Oh, I got this all mixed up, Carl. Oh, I'm so foolish. So stupid me making a joke. All right. So she's yelling because he's bleeding all over the bed. she tells them to go get in the bathtub while the victim waited in the bathtub Dooley reportedly ordered delivery from DoorDash

she allegedly told the victim if you scream or say anything I'll kill you Dooley got back into bed after eating your meal would give a shit I've dealt with those people who drive around for Doradesh you can see three people murdered in the corner you'd be like thanks for the tip have a great night don't give a shit

don't couldn't care less let me tell you something you might as well start smoking pot again they're quite they would be quieter about your crimes than your lawyer would they could keep a secret honestly they'd be like you know what i ate three of his fries i'm just going to let it go i think we're even i'm not i'm not going to rant to the police on this one five stars are appreciated are i'll call the cops that well there you got that got that going duly got back into bed after eating her meal the

victor reportedly followed the knife she allegedly used was near his feet and he used it to free himself once duly fell asleep he was cuddling with her until she fell asleep that's fun i got a question for you vanny let's say this happened to you and you could do it again would you okay are you asking me if i had a time capsule when i travel back in time no what i'm saying no i think there's a percentage of guys maybe you're not one of them i hope you're not i think there's a percentage of guys who when brought this opportunity okay here's the deal you're going to get had it's going to be great she's cute but then you also get tied up she cuts you and threatens your life and chokes you a little bit

okay one more question to be like all right i'll do that that that's okay uh-huh uh-huh okay one question how much of the door dash do i get oh yeah i bet she didn't finish it okay all right yep and where did she order from that's that's a good question is a pizza that's a good question she was booked to the el paso county jail on charges of second-degree kidnapping two counts a second degree assault menacing and false imprisonment. When officers searched Dooley's apartment, they reportedly found a knife near the bed. Several blood soaked rags of blood all over the bathtub.

So, I mean, I don't think I'd want to do it again. No. You don't think so? Yeah, like, you know, there's been roller coasters that I've enjoyed, you know, that I didn't think I would, that I would go do that again. This is not one of them. Okay.

This isn't the ride. I'm going to ride twice. Well, send us an email. Leave us a voicemail. Let us know if you'd be a guy who would sign up for this. Would you like to be menaced? Would you like to be menaced by a cute? cute girl. Some people are into it, man. I'm just saying. It's not, it's not nobody. Leave us a

voicemail. 585, 371.80108. Now, uh, new Boston, Texas didn't know that was a place. There's a new Boston? It's better. It's in Texas. It's got to be better. Just kidding, Boston. Just kidding. We're pulling you, we're yanking you yawn. I don't know what the fuck you people say. A Texas woman was convicted of Capitol Murder Monday for killing a pregnant, woman to take her unborn baby dude i always tell this to these people if you want that unborn baby you just got to wait just got to wait man it's like you and you pull the pizza out too early i'm like it's gonna cook you just got to give a time carl a comic that i worked with the other night yeah i'm not going to tell you his name but i will tell you his initials don't use it okay s s okay

you know what i'm talking about yep okay told me this joke okay what's this big blue and purple and can make a woman scream first thing in the morning. I don't know. Crib death. Pretty good. Solid one. Never thought I'd hear it out of that guy. Pretty solid.

Never thought I'd hear it out of that guy. I thought he's putting that in his act. He made a fucking scarf come out of his mouth. Waga, waga. Did not see that punchline in his sleeve. Pretty good. Now, the Bowie County during North East Texas deliberated for about an hour before finding Taylor Renee Parker, 29, guilty of the October 2020 murder of Reagan, Michelle Simmons, Hancock.

Now, she abducted this woman and cut the daughter out of her womb who later died. Doesn't that sound like the origin story of a supervillain? If the child had survived that. Yeah, actually kind of does. That's a pretty good one. Like, you'd want revenge at all of society if that's the way you were born into this world. That's like one superhero movie where I would want to watch the prequel. Yes.

You're a sick man, Vinnie. You're a sick, sick man. The verdict of a jury of six men and six women came after three weeks of sometimes grisly testimony. Now, here's why I brought this story up. I'm glad this woman is convicted, but boy, what a fucking semantics that they were arguing at this fucking trial. Dude, if your argument is that the baby wasn't a person yet because it wasn't born, you're in the wrong state. That's not going to fly in Texas, dummy. Never going to work.

Yeah, maybe New York. California, not in Texas. They argued that the baby was never alive. Yep. And they moved to dismiss the kidnapping charge, which would have lowered the capital murder charge to murder. That's why in opening statements, they said they spent so much time on the definitions. You can't kidnap a person who has not been born alive.

Insane. Insane on this one. I would argue, is the reason you kidnapped and murder this woman to get to the alive baby, ma'am? Yeah. It had something to do with it. This is so fucking crazy. I'm just going to say this, Vinny. I'm going to put this out there. This woman who murdered the other woman to try to take the unborn baby from her womb is a menace. This woman's a problem.

You know what I say about kidnapping pregnant woman taking the babies out of them? What's that? I denounce it. I'm with you on that one. I'm against it. I am so against it. it. If you're running for office, I'll vote for you if you're against that act. I think you should be illegal. There, I said it. Yeah. I don't care who hears me. I think that act should

be illegal. When Taylor had the baby and Reagan was still alive, that's when Taylor started slashing and cutty. She can't leave her alive. It was not a quick death. She kept cutting her and I guess Reagan would not die fast enough for Taylor to get out of there and get on with her plans. That's what the prosecutor's explained. Yes. This was not a typical C-section. She caught her from her abdomen from hip to hip. And that's the way the news goes. Wow. Yeah. That's one way to get to the baby, I guess. Well, this has been a great episode of the creep off. Hope you enjoyed it if you're still with us. Oh, we should have so with us. Well done. Well done. Yikes. Carl, now that we've introduced the world to Rob Wollcheck, there's one that I've been

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