The Creep Off - Episode 136: Tie a String Around Your Finger

Episode Date: October 24, 2022

This week Karl and Vinnie make their nominations for biggest creep from the Garden State of New Jersey: Karl read the letter we received from the currently jailed Podcast Hitman: in the Scum Parade we meet a dirty janitor, a horny dimwit and the world’s worst orthodontist  Check out the stories for yourself: Houston janitor filmed dipping genitals in woman’s water bottle, causing her to contract STD | The IndependentJames Donald Laker Wrote Kids Abusive Notes: Deputies (lawandcrime.com) Kentucky man arrested after posting video of himself choking toddler (nypost.com)Michigan man gets life in rape of Texas girl after he removed her braces with pliers (yahoo.com)

Hey, everyone, welcome to The Creep Off. This is a competition podcast for the two hosts try to find the creepiest creep in any given category. Then you, the listener, get to go vote on who brought in the creepiest creep. And the winner of five votes can make the loser spin the dreaded wheel of consequences. Which includes funny consequences, such as, wearing crocks for a month, or calling the Sandy Hook parents a bunch of liars. Anyways, last week was IT Professional Week.

And I think we all know who the creepiest IT professional is. whoever ran the soundboard at the Rochester show that's not it Chris anyways it's all I got for this week Tucker out attention parents what you're about to see is not suitable for kids

shoot it's not even suitable for some grown-ups you might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things I'm going to give the people what they want sensation horror shock I'm gonna deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down.

Cuckoo, cuckoo. Please clap. La Crepeboes. Welcome to another edition of your favorite true cry podcast. The show about creeps, buy creeps for you creeps. I'm your host. My name is Vinny. And joining me in the studio is my good friend.

C, C, C, Carl. What has happened to Minnie Paulino? We're going in for a marathon today, so I'm not going in too hot. All right. Yeah, I see that. We're going to pace ourselves. So we're going to do the regular episode here. We got our category, creepiest New Jerseyer.

and then we got a bonus show for all of our Patreon supporters and Supercast that we're going to record after this. I'm super excited to be able to do it because today's show, the early show is going to be great and the later show is going to be absolutely disturbing. So good. Oh, boy, oh boy. Jam packed day today.

Cool. So Carl, let's talk about last week's episode we did Creepiest IT professional. Yeah, it was a close one, I believe, right? Unfortunately. Yeah. So the final score is Carl, 58 to 54. USA.

USA. So I have to officially announce the current score. Yes. What is the current score? The current score. Carl has taken the lead. Yes. It is now three to two in this round. Nice. All right. I'm feeling it.

I am feeling it, Vinny. I think I finally figured out this game is played. I think I finally figured it out. Move it to Reddit. We're all the grumpiest people in the world who actually think you're cool. People on Reddit do not think I'm cool. Trust me there, buddy.

That's where your argument falls apart, my friend. Fair enough. I can point to some evidence. But anyway, so that's awesome. Thank you very much of the Couss out there who voted for my creep. That was a close one. We both brought good creeps in the IT field last week.

It was closer than it should have been. My guy, I could not get over the story. He was selling. Selling undercover police officers names, home addresses, and information to have sex with dirty hookers. Yeah. I think a lot of people were rooting for him. I think that was your problem right there. I got to know the audience better.

Yeah, exactly. I got to know the audience. Right. It's an anti-hero. It's like Tony Soprano, you know. My guy might as well bet the punisher. They fucking love him. Right.

All right. All right. So what are we doing this? Oh, wait. So it's three to two. Three to two. You still have to do your fast food challenge. Do you have a date picked for that yet?

Great question. I was texting with last week the owner of Rino's Pizza, who is in Florida with her family currently. She's coming back this week. She's going to sit down on the counter and give me the date options. So it's going to happen. I'm on it. And life will be grand.

How long is this shift going to be? How long is your shift? I don't know. 20, 30 minutes. No. No. And I don't want you to get. 35 minutes.

I don't want you getting free pizza during your break either. That's not fair. Can I at least get the employee discount on the pizza? Yes, employee discount fine, yes. 20%. Yeah, you have no idea how much of that adds up. I bet. And you bring a coupon too?

They should stop advertising in the yellow pages. I just go and steal them all off of my neighbor's porches and keep all the pizza coupons. So was that the only outstanding consequence at this point? No, I got to still get that fucking seaman book. Holy shit, you do? I've got two. I haven't found that thing yet. Oh, my God, really?

I thought I was the problem. Oh, no, what just happened? but I just kick something out. Great job, Carl. What did you kick out? Oh, I lost my monitor, but I can still see you up over here, so that's fine. You lost your monitor. Yeah, I lost my monitor in front of me, but that's okay.

I can still see up on the other other monitor. It's all good. I think I literally kicked out a cable. It's nothing you can fix. I think I literally dislodged the H-GMI. Okay. Oops. Well, then.

I was getting animated in my little club fluts. We're getting animated over here. All right, Carl. I'll tell you what. Two consequences. Yeah, that's really bad. Behind on. Okay.

That's pretty bad. God, I got to keep track of this stuff better. You literally could have just said, yeah, yeah, so they do that. I'm good. I would not have known. But you notice how honest I am? I'll tell you. I'll tell you.

I'm not going to fucking dick around. I mean, I feel like for so many years, the first literal two years of the show, you avoided your consequences for like six, eight, nine months in a time. I'm a busy guy, Vinny. It's not that I avoid. Well, you know, maybe I'm a busy guy right. now maybe I'm a busy guy you are yeah yeah I'm a busy guy look at me we'll get to it we always get to our consequences we do I did jump in that lake too by the way well I'm being

honest about everything I don't know if that's true I saw some photoshopped photographic evidence but other than that I don't know it's hard to tell please clap I had to email slide by the way to get that I loved it on his special he told the audience to clap Wow. Wow, Chad. One of these days on a Patreon episode, I'm going to play the RT bomb. The worst bomb I've ever seen on a television show ever. Anything that was recorded for broadcast. There was a comic who died a horrible death.

Oh, okay. A local guy. It's really great. Oh, that sounds fun. All right. I'm into it. Yep. All right. Let's move along. Let's play the ball. Who do you got, Carl? Let's go. All right. All right. So my creep is a man named John.

John List. And I'll start off with this backgrounder here. The List family lived in a large house in Westfield, New Jersey. The head of the family, John List, had a senior role in a bank. Money was no issue for him. He also had a happy family life, 20 years of marriage with his wife, Helen, and three kids. John's mother also lived with them. All right, so you got a 19-room mansion in New Jersey.

This guy's got a pretty good job at a bank Making some money He's got the kids He's got the family Then on November 9th, 1971 While the children were at school He decided to go ahead and shoot his wife Helen in the back of the head

Point blank range Right in the living room Then he walks upstairs His mom's up there Hey, what was that noise I heard? Oh, don't worry about that Shoots her right in the eyeball Takes her out

Mo Green style Mo Green style Then his daughter, Patricia, 16 years old, and the younger son Frederick, get home from school. And he's kind of like hiding out as they walk in. Boom, boom, takes them both out. So now we have the wife, the mom, two of the kids, done. Then he made some lunch for himself. You know, got to keep your energy because he needs energy.

Then he drove. So we have a baloney sandwich? Then he drove to the bank. Did he just pound glasses of water and eat a baloney sandwich? Yeah, exactly. Now, this guy's not a drinker. He's not like that. Okay.

His wife, though. So then Liss drove to the bank to close both his and his mother's bank accounts. Then he went to Westfield High School to watch his elder son, John, 15 years old, playing a soccer game. Routing on his kid. All right, John. Good game, buddy. So everyone's dead at home and he's at the kid's fucking game? Yeah, he's just hanging out watching the game.

It better be to meet some of the moms. After the game ends. Now that he's single and everything. He drives John home. And then as soon as John gets in. the home, he pulls out his gun and this son realizes what's up and tries to get

away. So he's just shooting bullets missing his son, finally connects. Oh, can I guess how that went? Yeah, pretty much. Get back here. So then, he drags all of the family into the ballroom, leaves the mom upstairs. You're telling me there was a house in New Jersey

that had a ballroom. This is a big house. This is a mansion. This guy was looking. What did this guy do for a living? Well, he was a comptroller at a bank. And I don't know if you know anything about banks. They have a lot of money. That's what I've heard. They're in the business of money.

All right. But it turns out he actually didn't have as much money, which we'll get to. I'll make this quick. So then he cleaned up the various crime scenes. He moved all the family into the ballroom, tried to scrub things down. He took out all of himself out of all the family photos. So he's in there cutting out himself to not leave any evidence of what he looks like. then he tuned in a religious station on the radio put it up full blast turned down all the lights turned off the thermostat and left drove his car and left it at the airport that is very there's a lot of smart moves there correct because the murders were not discovered until december 7th nearly a month later the neighbors noticed that all of the rooms in the mansion were illuminated day and night and there was no activity in the house so after the light balls began burning out of the

one by one they call the cops because it's before LEDs you know they didn't last 10,000 hours back then so the officers were able to get in through a window that wasn't locked and they find all the bodies and so they're like oh shit he's got a month's head start on us where are we going to find this guy like I said they find his car at the airport but there's no evidence that he got on an airplane I think he left it there to try to get them off his scent and they cannot find him and at one point they assume he committed suicide and just, you know, put himself in the ocean or something. Why would he do that? He's a free man. Right. Exactly. So then

1989 rolls around. This is 18 years later. And they decide there's this new TV show on Fox called America's Most Wanted. And they decide, we should probably cover this story. This guy killed his whole family and no one knows where he is. Well, back then it wasn't as easy to figure out with someone would look like 20 years ahead. You know, like, we're stuttering Johnny just like fast forward one year. And like that's what 20 years of aging looks like. He ends up looking like Luke Skywalker in the last one. Right. Yeah.

Didn't have that CGI technology quite quite right. So listen to this. This is actually very impressive what they had to do on America's Most Wanted. Nowadays, experts can generate dozens of images of what somebody might look like in 20 years' time in a matter of minutes.

But back in 1989, the police had to enlist the help of the sculptor Frank Bender. He had worked with the police previously to sculpt the faces of people whose bodies had decomposed before the police found them. All he needed to reconstruct a face was the skull. This time the task was different. He had to model somebody's current appearance based off of a 20-year-old photograph. Frank approached this task very carefully.

He said that he needed to know everything about John List. He even said that he needed to literally become one with him. Really boring. A forensic psychologist was assigned to help him and draw up a psychological portrait of the killer. Through this collaboration, they were able to make a sculpture of what John may look like now. There was one detail they couldn't get the answer to

had John started to wear contact lenses. If not, what glasses did he wear now? The psychologist suspected that List would not be careful enough about his appearance to swap the glasses for contact lenses. He also thought that John would have changed the style of his glasses. He thought that List would want to appear more important than he really was. The psychologist decided to go with the glasses with a thin, dark frame. Now the bust was complete, and they hand. it over to the journalists.

All right, sorry that was a longer clip, but I found this to be incredibly impressive. They got together this guy who usually sculpts faces after someone's decomposed, and they teamed him up with this psychologist who figured out what this guy would look like 20 years after the last photo they had of him, and they used that to bring it up on America's Most Wanted. The America's Most Wanted piece on John List aired on May 21st, 1989. The sculpture was so incredibly accurate that a, Denver family immediately recognized their former neighbor, Bob Clark. So this guy was going by the name of Bob Clark.

He'd started the new life. He'd remarried. He's living out in Denver. And his wife's best friend lives next door and they're having a great life together. Get the fuck out. Then he moved away from Denver, but this aired on TV and they went, I know that guy. That's Bob Clark. He was arrested for the murder of his family 18 years after the crime.

It was very surprising that the glasses John W. war were exactly how the psychologist had imagined them to be. The psychologist figured out exactly the style glasses he would be wearing 18 years after and they nailed his face. I'm sorry. I thought that was a cool element. That is interesting. It's impressive.

That is interesting. But if you ever yell at me for getting into the minute, too much minutia of a story, I will come into there and punch your glasses off of your face. All right. So they arrest him and he insists that he's still Bob Clark. for over a year as they're going through this trial. And then finally... I'm Bob Clark from Virginia.

Yeah, exactly. And then finally, they're like, look at this fingerprint that we found at the crime scene. He's like, ah, you got me. Damn it. It got a little bloody at the crime scene. You have a few fingerprints. Well, that's how I was going to say, like, the only thing that could have been left behind his fingerprints that he could not have gotten rid of.

Right. Because, like, you lived in the fucking house. Yeah, right. You're going to find fingerprints. Right. All right. So he testified that he actually was having financial difficulties that, that reach crisis level in 1971.

He was laid off for six months and he didn't want to be humiliated by his family. So he would just get up every day, put on his suit and head off to the train station to sit and read the newspaper pretend that he had a job. And just like what went through his normal routine and no one knew the wiser of it. Dude, my brother did that. Oh, really? Yeah. I've told stories about my brother.

He's fucking dip shit. He fucking did it in like 78 or something like that. He was living with my dad. married my mother who was like 12 years younger than him okay and she had brothers that were like the same age as my brother yeah so my two uncles and my brother got an apartment together my brother couldn't keep a job and he would go to work every day as if everything was like fine that's hilarious until my uncles found out and then what they told me the story it was the goddamn funniest thing I've ever heard because he'd be like I'm off to go do business now

Yeah, right. He grabs his briefcase. He's got papers hanging out of it. Ah, so many meetings today I've got to get to. So what he was doing was he was diverting money from his mother's bank account in order to avoid defaulting on the mortgage. No way, no. At the same time, he's dealing with his wife's alcoholism and her untreated tertiary syphilis contracted from her first husband and concealed for 18 years. So his wife.

Why? Holland had pressured listened to marriage by falsely claiming that she was pregnant then insisted that they marry in Maryland which did not require

the premarital syphilist test mandated in most other states at that time this woman was up to something no I just wanted to get married to Baltimore I love Baltimore Baltimore is my favorite town

crab cake after they get married who the fuck I would be saying why Baltimore and how do you even look that up in that year how do you even know which fucking state did she know that

though her health progressively deteriorated she said nothing to list or her physicians until 1969 when a thorough workup revealed the condition by then progression of the disease combined with her excessive alcohol consumption had according to testimony transformed her from an attractive young woman to an unkept and paranoid recluse who frequently and often publicly humiliated list

comparing his sexual prowess unfavorably with that of her first husband so this woman looks like an old bag and she's talking about yeah my husband can't satisfy me in this fucking wet-oodle. Are you tried to convince us all that this guy is a creep for killing her? I mean, what are you doing here? You're just sabotaging your own story.

All right, but this is the best reason why he, because remember he killed his entire family. Yeah, well, they were little siffle babies. Yeah, well, check this out. John started to believe that the devil was controlling his family, so he decided to take their lives while they were still pure and innocent. Yeah, so it turns out John

was a big, big church guy. And in a five-page letter written to his pastor found on the desk in his study, Wiss claimed that he saw too much evil in the world and he killed his family to save their souls. He was hoping to be reconnected with them in heaven because he wanted to kill them while they were still innocent

because the devil was controlling his family, Betty. But you kept going. You can't, you can't. Why do you have to keep going? Yeah, and then he went and found a new life and remarried and just went about his business. So good for him. This guy, John List,

murder his entire family, got away with it for 18. 18 years, if not for America's most wanted, would probably have lived out the rest of his days. He was obviously convicted, five life sentences he died in prison in 2008. Okay. The age of 82. John List. Fun one. That's not fun.

Oh, I mean, terrible. Awful. Awful. Horrible. Horrible. Haid it. Let's take a minute for the victims. Yeah.

All right. My story. My creep today's heinous crimes may have ended up saving a lot of lives, Carl. His name is Jesse timidiquois. He was born in Newark in 1961. A woman named Carol Critch, a forensic social worker, was a witness at Jesse's trial a little bit later. Wait, he was born in Newark? Yeah.

Okay, you win. Thank you. All right, let's get to that letter. I hate Newark. Let's get to that podcast. That letter. All right. No, keep going.

Okay. So this woman's a clinical or a forensic social worker, and she was a witness at this guy's trial later. We'll get to the crime in a minute. but she did the research on his family Jesse's mother was a promiscuous alcoholic who had 10 children by seven different men his father was a violent drinker with a criminal history and based on information provided by Jesse's mother

he was raised in poverty they lived in a shack for a while they had no food they didn't have heat and they definitely didn't have any health insurance okay his father used to sexually abuse him and his brother and the two brothers once saw their father rape a seven-year-old girl. The father tortured and killed their pets in front of them,

and once he forced the brothers to eat their pet rabbit. Cooked, I hope. I don't know. I mean, rabbit could be a delicious treat. Either way. Yeah. This is a perfect recipe to raise a creep. Sure.

You would think my creep would be the dad. I was going to say. I should stop here, but I'm not going to. Right. I know. In 1979. Yeah, you think Joe Litt. John List was a bad dad. It's so funny, he said Joe List, because I wrote that down to you.

All I'm thinking of is Joe List. That's all I pictured in my head was just like with a shotgun blasted. He gets in the face. A little skinny Joe List. All right. In 1979, he pled guilty. Jesse pled guilty to attempted aggravated sexual assault and connection with an attack on a five-year-old girl in Piscataway, New Jersey. He was given a suspended sentence under the condition.

He gets some counseling. He never did that. No. They end up going in arrest. and he served nine months in an adult correctional center. Now, in 1981, he gets arrested again, another incident involving a seven-year-old girl. Oh, boy. He eventually pleads guilty to attempted sexual contact and to cause, causing serious bodily injury in connection with the assault.

He spends six years in Avonnell Adult Diagnostic Treatment Center for sexual offenders. Good news is, when you go to college, sometimes you make lifelong friends. And he did. He met a guy named Jesse Cephali and a guy named Brian Jenin, who are also sex offenders. Well, of course. That's where you put them all, right? Yeah. So when Jesse gets out of prison in 1988, he moves into a house owned by Joseph Cepeli's mom.

And then Brian moved in, too. Oh, birds of a feather. And they're all hanging out there. All three of them just living there. Cool. How's that for a fucking content house, Carl? Yeah, right? It's even crazy having Gino Bisconti and Alex Stey at the same house.

So, on July 20th, 1994, yeah, little seven-year-old Megan Canko lived with her parents diagonally across the street from this house. That's not good. It is not good. About 5.30 p.m. Is there a Megan's law thing going on here? Do they have to tell people that they're- Don't bury the lead.

Fair enough. Little Megan. Oh. Little Megan was lured into the house to come play with Jen. Jesse's new puppy, which it didn't exist. He got her into his bedroom. That's as cruel as it gets right there. Yeah.

Promises of puppies and there's no puppy. To a little seven-year-old girl. Oh, that's brutal. You should see him. His nose is so cute. Oh, he wiggles his little tail. He's got that little puppy. He's got that stinky puppy breath.

I'm on my way. Little pop-bellied puppy. Loves it when you rub his belly. So he gets her into the bedroom. He tries to attempts to sexually assault her. She bites him on the hand. She screams and tries to escape. he doesn't let her leave Carl

he grabs a belt it starts choking her with the belt till she loses consciousness then he took her by the back of her hair and smashed her face on the dresser multiple times then he smashed the seven-year-old's girl's head into the door frame all of this seems unnecessary when she's passed out now this has started to cause her to bleed

so what he decides to do is grab a plastic bag and put it over her head so you know he doesn't make a mess okay yeah he doesn't want to make a mess in his house Sure, clean it up. So he did that to avoid blood stains on the carpet, and then he decided to rape little Megan. Oh, boy. Now, believing Megan to be dead, Jesse placed her body into a toy box that he had in his room and carried it downstairs. He put the box into the back of his truck, and he thought he heard Megan cough.

So he drove her to the Mercer County Park, took Megan's body out of the box, placed her in tall weeds, and went back to his car or back to his truck. And then he just says like, ah, you know what, let me go back. And he goes back and decides just to rape her again one more time for the road. And during this time, Megan's mom is, you know, it's 5.30 in the evening. We're going on, you know, later on. She's going, where is my daughter? She's starting to search the neighborhood. This leads her to the mother, Maureen Kanka, to meet Jesse, who's 33.

And she said that he told her that, he told her that. he had seen Megan around 5.30 when he was working on his car. I was outside working on my car. I saw a ride by it or bike. Oh, what an idiot. Yep. Because now you just got to answer a bunch of questions, and now you've got to make up a whole bunch of stories.

The canc is called, please, hours later. I didn't know you had a hot seven-year-old daughter. That's what I would have said. There's a smoke show across the street from my house. You have a 70-old daughter? Is she single? Yeah. I don't know if she's single.

Oh, this. well I'll tell you what let me see you got a picture of her okay so can I keep this can I keep there are worse ways to answer that question there are a lot of worse ways so the cops are called they're searching the neighborhood they're asking everybody anything everything they can yeah and someone mentions by the way did you guys talk to the pedophile house over there on the corner you might want to have a chat with those three sure so the cops start talking to jesse and jessie's like oh yeah I saw around 2 30 this afternoon and they're like well, the mother said you saw her at 5.30.

Oops. And he just was like, oh boy. Well, he could have pretended it was a time zone thing. I know certain people get very confused about Pacific Eastern. Believe it or not, Officer, strangest thing. The international date line goes right across this street, just right here. And it's a different time over there. So they go, the police said that he appeared to be extremely nervous, sweating, fidgeting.

he at that point had been out looking around for her with the parents sure when they grabbed him like he was out there just pretending to be a concerned citizen hey guys one place I wouldn't look is tall grass no never gets lost in tall grass that's for sure the park no why don't you take her to the park I waste our time there why would a kid be at the park yeah let's go look at the abandoned well so the cops take him in and as they're looking they're looking at them over like hey what's that bite mark on your hand he's like I bit myself that they brought they he should have said the puppy bit him it's a better fucking story well then the puppy ran away I know and he took my toy box

the puppy took my toy box bad dog so as he's held there for 24 hours they start growing the roommates too yeah and the roommates are like just tell him what happened or whatever like Apparently, there's a lot of suspicion that the roommates knew he did this. Sure. And weren't going to say anything. But he confessed, took them to the body, showed him right where she was. And prosecutors alleged that he lured her into the home by town where she could see the puppy. Okay.

That's a question about Megan then? Because you would allude to the fact that she was still alive. I'm just, no, Megan's long dead. Okay. But when did she die, though? Because it sounded like she was still alive in the car ride. Yeah, she may have been dead when he left her there or she might have been barely alive and died after he left

I don't know for sure I couldn't find a concrete answer that's fine so in May 30th 1997 the jury returned a verdict of guilty on all counts of murder including capital murder kidnapping and aggravated sexual assault now he was sentenced to death good

well no not good because New Jersey fucks everything up yeah boy in 2007 they abolish the death penalty okay great and he was still alive oh good so they were like you know what you get to mercifully live out the rest of your life in prison. Congratulations.

Is there a holiday named after him yet? Jesse's Day? Yeah. It's that day in April when you wear pink. Now, after the murder of their daughter, the Cancans began spearheading the campaign to enact legislation, modeled after similar laws in Oregon providing for police registration and common notification when sex offenders are released into a particular neighborhood,

the murder led the legislature to the U.S. state of New Jersey to pass Megan's law. Good job, Megan. Which requires... You got murdered better than all the other girls. No, you've obviously helped a lot of people with that. I mean, you fell for the dumb, I have a cute puppy thing, but at least it led to something good. That's the thing. And Megan's sacrifice, I guess, probably a couple other kids got a shot now.

But this was really crazy. And I've had about my fill up to here with sex offenders the last day or two. Me too. And we're in the bonus episode going to fucking oof. Boy. Oof. So that's my creep this week. Jesse timidiquis.

Timidiqua, the man who this is the reason Megan's Law exists. Very good, Vinny. All right. Ring the bell while the bell's over. The bell has been wrong. What do we want to do now? We're going to do some who are these creeps? Yeah, let's do it.

Let's get into. Creepos. Now, as you know, Vinny, Yep. What we like to do on The Creepoff is not only just the best true crime podcast people can listen to, but also prove it because we're petty. And so what we've been doing is dissecting one true crime show at a time to prove that we are the best true crime show on the Internet today. That's us. To quote a guy who's a good friend of mine in Canada.

One of the best shows on the Internet today. That's us. And what I've been doing is we've talked about Nancy. Grace and my favorite murder and we've been we've been going through some of the big shows that everybody has heard and knows yeah not this week ah this week I want to talk about a show called true crime and red wine hosted by britain and leslie and this is one of those shows benny where it's just two besties telling stories to each other we're just two best friends with a true crime obsession support yourself a glass sit back and enjoy you know this is

a recipe for success when two women get together drink wine and read Wikipedia to each other. I just want to point out that like naming your show crime and wine or some variation of it. Yeah. It's basically like starting a freestyle rap with my name

is so and so and I'm here to say it's it is the lowest hangate dumbest. I hate it so much. I hate it too, but never stop doing it. It's how I find most of these shows. I just put in true crime wine podcast and a list of them come up and I know they're all awful

and I love it. It's great for what I do for a living. So, all right, let's get into, uh, this is the mistake that all these true crime hosts make. They think the listeners give a shit about them. And I've seen this on YouTube. I've seen this all over

the place. The person presenting the information that somebody wants to hear about thinks you're a fan of that person. Like, no, we don't give a fuck about you. This is, this is the Chris Hansom syndrome. Yeah. You know, it's like, oh, I'm the stars. Like, no, no, no, we just like to see pedophiles get knocked out a bag.

Yeah. Dummy. Except for guys like Gordon Flowers who are just, you know, undeniable stars. He's pretty cool. He's pretty good. Guys, we've missed you. So much. November was a nightmare month for the both of us.

Okay, like we can't even recap it because some of it was personal. Some of it was family. Some of it was. I had a psycho trying to mess with me. So my mental space was taken up. And now I don't have to worry. about it so Vinny I'm I don't understand what's happening how could you they were off for six weeks and and they're like oh my gosh November was just so crazy for us I we're

sorry there hasn't been a new episode I'm sure all of their listener were missing them so dearly but they can't even give you an explanation Carl's like I need you to drop a new one so I could do it for who are these creeps oh god it's it's so infuriating to me these people think that somehow they're the star of the show like I know you missed us like no there's a billion shows just like yours nobody missed you so yeah we're glad to be back it's what is it December 10th I don't even know how long we were gone uh the last one we did was our Halloween what yes six weeks yes oh it's been a bad six weeks I think everybody missed us too nope how many hints is she gonna drop that it's been a bad six weeks for I know it's

it's enough nobody cares and honestly if they don't even know how long they've been off Why do you think any of the listeners do? You care about your show much more than anybody else does. I promise you that. And they're like, wait, when was the last time we did the show? She's like, I don't know. Well, why would anybody fucking know? All right.

Jesus. Now we get into who's going to go first, many. They both brought a little true crime story for us. Oh, is it a competition? No. There's nothing fun about this show at all. Do you want to go first? Do you want me to go first?

I don't know. Mine is creepy. Okay. Yours is current. Yeah. Do you want to rock, paper, scissors? Yep. Okay.

Do you do rock, paper, scissors, shoot? Yes. Okay, ready? I win, too. Oh, just so you know how to play this game. It's just, I win. So we don't have to play? Yeah, I win.

Oh, okay. We'll see about that. Oh, boring. Boring. Carl, I would rather they just scissor each other over the microphone. Yes, I'd rather they hit each other with a rock or scissor each other. Give themselves paper cuts. Oh, my God.

So this is so obnoxious. Like they can't figure this out ahead of time. They think everything they say is fun and cute. It's so annoying. I'm like, all right, if we're going to get to some true crime, can we fucking get to it? No. We got to figure I was going to go first.

We got to play rock paper, scissors. Then we've got to talk about the wine that we're drinking because this is the other mistake all of these shows make. We're going to combine all of the things that we enjoy and make them the crux of the show. Well, I don't give a fuck about red wine. I just want to hear the true crime story. Too bad, because you're going to hear. their analysis of this wine and it's

pretty good analysis. What's our wine tonight? So after our very long break I decided to pick out the pretty one. It's so pretty. Isn't it pretty? Yeah. Stop it. Jesus Christ. Do you think anybody's actually listening going, why are they talking about all these tribes? Get back to the wine. Tell me how pretty

the line is. How pretty is the label on that wine? That's what I want to hear about more. Please, that's the expert analysis I'm looking for on this show. And then this clip right here, As they're talking about how delicious this wine is, just reminded me of your buddy Florentine. This one is delicious.

It is good. I am super happy with this. Yeah, it gave me goosies when I, like, first tasted it. It gave you goosies. Did it give you goosies? Oh, did you get goosies because it's so delicious? The wine. Ugh.

Dude, when I heard that goosies, like, you're not clever, you're not cute, you're not fun, you're not interesting. I doubt you're attractive. What's going on here? Why does everyone think they can do a podcast, Biddy? Leave it to the professionals. Well, I do it because I'm cute, interesting, and attractive. See?

This is, everyone falls into this. It's what I'm talking about. Thank you for demonstrating that. All right. So now let's talk about what their stories are about. So mine is about Elisa Lam. Forgive me if I call her Eliza, because when I read this, I see the name Eliza. Okay, that's close.

Put her name is Lisa. I'm retarded too. Good. So my story. is about this woman, and I'm not going to remember what her name is, and I'm not going to say it correctly. Even though I have it written down, I see it differently when I look at it, so that's what it is.

But, you know what, though, Vinny, even though this is so obnoxious, I'm like, thankfully, we're finally going to get to the fucking story. Can we just tell the story? Can you just read the wiki page to me so I can figure out what's going on? Nope. The other woman has to sidetrack the conversation. Dallas just mentioned

we were watching it was like previews for a Netflix show or something and it was Borat and Dallas was like, didn't Leslie say she liked that? And I was like, I don't know, but also I don't doubt it. But it was funny because he was like, yeah, he knows it's you. I'm part of the family. You are. So we were talking about getting a cat. Sorry, I'm like, and hijacked your story here. So we were talking about, you know, getting a cat, we were looking at different cats. And there's this one I wanted to rescue it and it's a Russian blue. And I was like, yes. And then we get to give it the Russian name. You have to name. I want to name

is Fedka. What is going on here? Vinny, I'm trying to pay attention to what's going on. I have no fucking clue what they're talking about. Are you still talking? I don't even know what's going on right now. Dude, I'm so lost. Who's getting a cat?

I don't know, but Borett from... Were you getting a cat? Who's getting the cat? Boris from Kazakhstan. I know if that was part of the USSR at one point, but they're very confused about geography. And it will be again. All right.

yeah, so they just, they can't help themselves. This is the problem, and I don't want to just make a blanketed statement about women in general, but I will. This is the problem when two women get together and have these conversations with each others. They can't fucking focus. They want to sell each other Tupperware. They don't know what they're doing.

It's like, we're trying to read these fucking wiki pages to each other. This is my last clip here, Benny, because even when they get to the story. This show is horrific. Oh, this is terrible. Even when they get to the story, they can't just. walk and tell you the story, they have to try to clown around with each other and crack each other up. Her parents were immigrants from Hong Kong, and they had opened a restaurant in the area.

Canada. God, I had to think about where Vancouver was. Canada land? Canadian. It's funny. Well, I don't think it's funny. All right, so these are two humorless, wittless idiots who think they're important because don't forget drugs.

They read Wikipedia pages to each other. I believe, I rest my case, your honor. This is proof that obviously the creepoff is the superior podcast. Sustay. Creepos. The best in the business. So I guess that means it's time for some voicemails, Carl. Oh, yeah, we should probably read a letter too.

Yeah, we'll do that at the end of our voicemail segment. Sounds good. The creepoff voicemail segment is brought to by the city of Syracuse, Syracuse, where our tap water will sterilize your children so you don't have to. See you in Syracuse. What a wonderful service from the city of Syracuse. Yeah, it's smart. All right, this is a pretty solid question from my listener.

All this child porn, they always have terabytes of porn, right? But I'm wondering, is it the same porn or is everyone getting arrested for the same child porn? has the FBI or whoever, like, commented on, you know, is the rate of child porn, like, victims going down at the very least, and all these petos are just sharing the same shit. You guys seem to be the experts on child pornography, and so I'm curious about your thoughts on this. Go fuck yourself. Um, whose job is it to determine the unique number of CP images out there, videos? That's not a job I want, sir.

It's that one guy we talked about last week. Oh, boy. Oh, look, I got doubles. 30,000 files. I'll be here all weekend. Honey, I'm not going to be home from work. Ooh. Spilling over on my desk today.

Yeah, no idea, buddy, but I'm sure people do get, uh, no idea. And a weird thing to even think, I have to say. All right, all right. Now, this is so to point out that last week, there was something very disturbing that we completely missed. Oh. So I think I've heard the most disturbing thing I've ever heard on the creep off on this IT episode, and it was during the scum parade.

You mean to tell me there's a facility somewhere that has a blind, retard washing dishes those dishes aren't getting clean I don't care what you say they're not getting clean that's disturbing as fuck yeah good point

yeah what right over our heads by the way I've been to that restaurant too you ever get the fork that still got the fucking food from the last guy who ate with it it it turns out that the slow guy in the back is being raped by a counselor yeah and he just didn't see the dirt on that one

Apparently the server didn't either. Come on, you're ramping this shit up for everybody. Pay attention. Hey, Carl, here's a suggestion for another edition of who are these creepos. Hey, Vinnie or Carl or whatever intern is listening to this message. I just was listening to the last episode and I just wanted to let you know that you should check out small town murder. It's two comedians that talk about murders and they try to make it funny. maybe a little bit better than you guys

maybe they are I don't know I'll take the challenge Love the show though Bring in and I think you guys should check it out I think you'd be entertained Anyway Sue Oh that was like a legit suggestion

Like you think someone Like the show I hate that show I think it's terrible I've never heard it No I just know we're better Of course

Yeah Well I'll prove it That's fine we can do that Carl I gotta tell you This guy's just following you everywhere Hey Vinny Winnie, hey, this is Chad.

Hey, Vinny, if you could pass it along to Carl, this is Chad Zumach. And, uh, you know, with friends like Carl, who needs enemies? You know, Vinny? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. But I always vote for you because you're the people's champ. Vinny Winnie, the people's champ, like Carl. See you. Hmm.

That was about as funny as a real Chad Zzumachz. Yeah, that was pretty accurate. I recently changed my Twitter name to the Z, to the V-Man. V-Man. Yeah, the V-Man. Somebody put a meme or something on our subreddit that just showed like someone sleeping. Like, let's try to listen to the Z man or the bunch of Zs. I think that's pretty good.

That checks out. This is a, I really appreciate this call. Whoever left this one, thank you. What's up, Carl, what's up, Vinny? I just wanted to call. and say, thank you, Vinny. Because of you, we get to see fixed tips. I don't think anyone's thank you yet.

And barring Carl's computer fucking posting a JPEG, we're all kind of in debt to you. Thank you very much, Vinnie. Yes, sorry. Oh, nice. Yeah, sorry, I can't get my computer to upload the JPEG. I'll just describe them to you because I was able to see them. Yeah, Vinny, that is a good point.

Yeah, you're welcome, everyone. That's why I'm the people's champion. Don't you forget it. And last call. We have a creep alert. Hey there. I'm calling in with a creep alert. So I worked at an automotive shop, and I had a car in that the service salesman told me the guy recently found out that his wife cheated on him.

And I opened the trunk to air up his spare. And there were buckets of cleaning supplies, a couple of BDSM sex toys, and a machete. Oh, Jesus. It's still in the packaging brand new. So basically, I think my fingerprints are all over a future crime scene. But, you know, I'll be honest, I've got a rooting for them. So maybe I'm the creepier. Thank you, fuck you, bye.

Was the last name on that Hatley, by any chance? It was a Subaru. oh my god all right you know what please i'm i don't even want to say this because it means i'm to get more can we get less brett hatley porn out there in the world god what the fuck is that man doing it's i've never met that guy in my life i don't know him what the fuck are you doing dude what the fuck are you doing living his best life i got i fucking go out of these fucking gifts or the gifs that bob up up like Jesus fucking Christ

it's horrific it's not fun I was going to describe it but I didn't even want to think about it oh speaking of horrific there's a letter sitting out of that desk for you wow okay I don't give permission to read on podcasts in all caps

across the top oh well sorry buddy you are once again providing content to our shows well I'm glad I'm not going to be the one reading it because that means I'm innocent when he gets out and decides to kill again. Okay, fair enough. Matt, I apologize, but you do understand that I have to read this on the show. You do understand that, right?

And thank you, by the way, Matt, for helping us with content over the past few years. And I'm sorry, things didn't work out with you and your girlfriend. I think I kind of predicted that they wouldn't. Who are you more sorry for, Carl? I only knew Matt. You know, it's one of those things that's like, well, Matt was my buddy. So, you know, I got a thing. You don't get you don't have to like that.

All right. So you've already read this letter. Is there anything in here I shouldn't read before I start reading it? No, you can read the whole thing. Carl. Oh, by the way, he spelled your name. This is the envelope. I don't know if you can see this.

Spilled your name VY N N-Y. Pauline. What a funny guy. What a funny guy. So he addressed it to you. Always the comedian, eh? He addressed it to you, but then signs it to me. Interesting.

So from what I understand, our pal. Alex had sent him a letter. Oh, okay, yeah. And had told him that if he wanted to respond to the show or getting touched with any of us, just to send it to the Carlson because that's what people seem to do. I see. Alex told him to do that because I was wondering if he's been listening to the show or not. Maybe I'll find out after I read this.

You will find out. Okay, let's go. What's up, my friend? How is the world of podcasting going? It's going fantastic, buddy. Oh, this is. Oh, my God. It's going great.

Our Patreon is killing it. Oh, I hate you. Anything exciting from the S.J. or PM camps? oh yeah dude s j we've created an entire fucking industry with stuttering john it's amazing i feel like a bit of an outsider now okay so he's not listening anymore good i feel better already i feel like the way you respond to this feels like that fucking uh m&m music video i'm your biggest fan my name is stan this is what's fucking happening right now all right it's been 450ish days being in here which means i haven't been able to listen to podcasts

or, you know, have the freedom thing. Yeah, that's what prison means. You know, have the freedom thing. I'm licking this kid more and more. Is that weird? Yes, it is. And that's why I decided to read this on the creep off. Good choice.

I feel like I... That'll probably drive him crazy, too, if he finds out... You didn't even read it on WATP. He's like, he ran it on the creep off. Fuck that show. I never even liked that show. All right. Rather disappointed I haven't heard from you, man.

By now I expected some picks of Casey, Vic, Jen, or Chrissy Mayer, or some money on my books and tablet. You can afford it making $10,000 a month on Patreon. Oh, so he does have the internet then. Apparently, I don't know. I don't understand what he means by on my books and tablet. Even a care pack package would have been cool. Is this guy fucking calling you a creep for not giving him things? Hold on. This is funny. Let's keep going.

It's the least you could have been doing as I continue to spend the, I continue to spread the gospel of Patrick Michael, his greatest song, snakes in the grass, and his neglect of his children. Are you judging others now, Matthew? You're judging Patrick Michael for how he treats his family? Okay. And he's putting you on a guilt trip. I don't feel guilty. I wish my brain wasn't all fucked up Or I had access to your podcast

Because I'm not doing a true service To these lucky MCJ junkies I've had What? Oh These lucky MCJ bunkies I've had So are these his roommates Or his cellmates he's talking about? I must be

Yes, okay So that means his cellmates So he puts Lucky with a little question mark To be funny So this is actually fucking crazy I wish my brain wasn't all fucked up yeah I wish so too man that's is that a so being aware that your brain is fucked up that's awful right that's that's torture progress I mean a little bit of

progress all right so let's get back to the I want to keep going but let's get back to this thing where he thinks I should be giving a money or a care package you just send them some nudes of your wife please yeah that it's weird to you included that name anyway I will be with Chrissy this weekend maybe I can get some shots of her and the hot tub or on the lazy river. Just send him a link to her only fans. She doesn't have an only fans. I know you've had people right.

I know you've had people right. I didn't tell anyone to write. But I'm not reaching out to do an interview or tell stuff about my case. I am just bored and lonely. Oh, that's sad. I've been reaching out to people and surprise, surprise, they aren't responding. I'm looking at you, Alex. and next gado next grotto i've been jailing well even in the time i spent in the m h wing

that's a mental health wing yeah yeah there's only so many card games puzzles chess books to read or pictures to color before pictures to color oh no hey before it gets tired and repetitive Hell, even all the hustlers get boring. They got nudie mags in there? All right. Apparently. That's something. I know his type. My day is pretty boring.

I wake up 715 to 740. Did I ask? I wake up between 17 to 740 when the... Really boring. I'm sorry. I'm struggling with this. He wrote this. This is not number two pencil.

This is the lightest fucking pencil. I mean, this is impossible. to read. It's so... That's Michigan Penitentiary Pencil. Yeah, it's not good. All right. I know we're going along here. Uh, my day is pretty boring. It's a lot. I wake up between 715 and 740 when the somethings come on for breakfast.

Uh, cereal, fruit, bread, egg. Go back to sleep till someone knocks on my door for laundry. Oh, boy. Oh, there's a lot here. Um, I'm the unit's laundry man. It gets me a little food. I wonder if he's lost some weight. I bet he has. Then lunch, which is between 1120

and 1220, mostly crap. Then play cards, usually spades, poker, rummy or screwed. Kill something, kill lockdown at 3P, till locked down to 3P

were locked for one to one and a half hours till dinner, usually. I read color pictures or complete puzzles during that time. Dinner is four to five. Oh, my gosh. They treat these people like they're in their 70s. They eat lunch at 1120 and eat dinner at four.

So whenever your grandparent goes, I'm in a nursing home and they treat me like it's a prison. They're not lying. Those old people are not lying. Yeah. And then I fall asleep to Jeopardy. Did you have as much fun with this as I'm having when you read this, by the way, but I'm, no, I bet it's insanely disturbed.

I'm feeling guilty that I'm, all right. I'm a smile. a reader. What can I say? All right. So then he says, dinner four to five, more bullshit. Then I watch the news till wound care, leg wrap for my lymphonia. Oh. Then back to the rock till 10 p.m. lock.

Some days, we get wrecks, others, that it's more laundry car. and cookups, commissary on Monday and Friday, winning exchange Wednesday, and Razor Pass on Fridays. Razor Pass. What the fuck? What is Razor Pass? Razor pass on Fridays. You think he has those scooters? They get to like cruise down the hallways? No, I think that'd be fun. They let them shave once a week on Friday. Oh, that's probably what it is.

I was trying to think, like, what is Razor Pass? Is that like they're hiding contraband and like passing shivs around and shit? it's got to be like they let him shave. They probably, yeah, they probably supervise him with a razor and let him shave. That's interesting. Okay. Right back and ask questions. I will.

I will write back to Matt. This is exciting. I don't know why he didn't want this right on the show. This is fun. We're learning. Right back and ask questions, let me know what's going on in the world. Oh, dude, I got a lot to catch you up on. If you want to support me, touchpay direct.com is for commissary account.

Getting Out.com is for the tablet. You can send me your email if you want to send messages that way. You don't my email. Whatever. Mycarepacks.com is to send care packs. Video visits can be set up at ICS VideoVisit.com. Oh, shit. Can I record that?

Can we do a video visit with Matt Lewinsky and put it out as content? Could this be my new show? Carlin, Matt? Only if it's on our new $20 paycheck here. All right. Use my name and inmate number. Cool. All right.

Let's see. What else? He says, Patty wishes he jailed as well as I do. The inmate formerly known as podcast hitman Matthew Winski with his number. P.S. Pass my info along to Carly. Carly? Yeah, Carly.

Patrick Michaels Carly. I forgot about that. Okay. Pass my info along to Carly. She could use a step up from that ginger butt crack. Dude, Josh, you might be single, buddy. I hope you get out soon. PPS, get me a few magazine subscriptions to The Wrestling Observer.

You want Meltzer's magazine, dude? Come on. Laundere babies, travel puzzles. Oh, I guess that's the end of that. Yep. Wait. Oh, now he's got notes to all the folks on the show. Should I read these too?

Yeah, I mean, might as well. All right, starting with Vinnie Paulino. Oh, what does he have to say to me? Oh, caps. I do not give permission to read these letters on the air. That's what he wrote to you. I didn't read shit on the air. He thought you were going to do it.

Sorry, Matt. Sorry, Matt. This is fun. We're having fun. We miss you. I followed your directions, Matt. Kroge, don't tell anyone. But I miss you the most of the WATP co-hosts, my favorite asshole.

That's nice. Andy, be more like Joe. All right. His brain's working. He can write jokes. That's good. Mean Doug. Thank you for bringing PM into my life. Now, get me some Doritos and chili.

Is that what mean Doug does? Interesting. Nice Doug. Oh, he's got nice dog on here too. Send swag to me in here or picks of your co-host in a bikini, assuming it's still the broad. You know what? I'm going to send him picks of my co-hosts in a bikini.

He asked for luxury pictures. I should just nail that. That's funny. Dick Masterson. Oh, shit, I was just on his show yesterday. I wish I could have told him about this. Same as Carl. Send me money on my account so you can afford it.

And he says, from the guy who brought Patrick Michael Clips to your crossover. So he thinks he deserves payment for that. I might throw him a few bucks. Why not? Because he murdered a woman. Yeah, you know, you keep coming back to that, Vinny. Like a broken record over there. I mean, if Dick was here right now, we go, yeah, a woman.

But he's not. So I am, but I'm saying. Honestly, the jury's even out on that. Jen, I may have been too subtle, but I want to... Wait, what? I may have been too subtle, but I want to pin your feet behind your head and fuck you good. Send sexy lingerie shots. Love you, Matt.

All right. Well, that got a little... That went a little too far. He wrote that to Jen from the Jingles Department. Jen from the Jingles Department, yeah. I think she's taken. All right, Pat Oates, getting Carl to reach out to you and your skewering, ooh, I can't read this, something, the wild pitch. The next week is right up there with all these Patrick Michael segments I had for two years.

I hope I made your podcast radar. It's been funny. That must be a show that Pat Oates does. I'm not aware. I'm sorry, Pat, I love you. And then Pat, oh, he said to know it to Patrick Michael. You think I communicate with this guy? I'll try.

Bernard Michael, looks like I won. Carly and the kids are gone, and you only have your lame podcast left. Don't know why you feared the stardom I gave you, but whatever, hell, write me. So my rock. Looks like I won. So my rock can hear your bullshit firsthand.

Podcast hitman. Like I want. Well, number one, dude. All right. It's fucking uncalled for her to send that fucking letter, like talking about fucking genuinely. that's fucking uncalled for. That's my favorite part of this letter.

That's pretty fucking funny. He's going to pit her feet back behind her head. What is he going to fall on her? Yeah. And that's the last time anyone ever heard from Jenny Jingles. Wowie. Matt Lewinsky wants money and a care package. I wish you had an Amazon wish list.

That'd be so much easier. But I'm really bad mailing stuff. Are there lawyers on Amazon? Is that? Dude. That's amazing. All right, Matt. I'll write you.

I'll write you back. I'll probably send you some box or care package or something you did help contribute to the show and I do appreciate that he's still contributed to the show so that's awesome he didn't want to though no Alex had to tell him to do it no he wrote uh do not read this on the air oh well no I know but he also said he thought that I would have written him by now I guess I should have but I wonder what the policy is I got to look this up I want the policy is about the video visits I assume that you can't like record it and use it right just write yourself up some fake press credit

Do whatever you want. Yeah. All right. So, Carl, I think it's time for a scum parade. And I am very excited because we got a amazing new scum parade jingle from our pal, the fast food king. This is awesome. And I hope you have it on the board because I do not.

Scum parade. Take me on a raid of these fuck-shareades that these creeps have made. Scum parade, Vinny and Carl going to tell you about some fuck shit. Scum Parade Like stories of a kid Fucked by his mom or dad We're soaking up the blood of a cat scum parade I'm really glad I work in a place

Where I really don't have to worry about having coworkers A janitor Has allegedly been caught on video Dipping his genitals into a woman's water bottle And now the married mother of two claims she has an STD. That's a weird way to get an STD, isn't it? It's a good thing it's on video or I would not believe her at all.

Oh, yeah. Oh, the janitor put his dick in your water. That's why, sure. The janitor put his dick in my water. I've heard that one before, honey. Lucio Diaz, 50 is facing charges of a decent assault and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Now that does build your ego up.

I don't know what would. Yeah, no shit. This individual is a sixth man, the woman 54 told ABC 54. Texas, she wished to remain anonymous. This is a huge thing. I wonder why she wants to remain anonymous. Could you imagine that first date? Oh, you're the woman who got the STD from drinking dickwater.

Yeah, no, I heard about you. Everywhere she goes, she's just constantly coughing because she just can't get it out of her fucking mouth. Oh, fucking dickwater lady. Yeah. Good idea. What's up, DWL? How you doing? Yeah, right, exactly.

If she was a wrestler, that would be her nickname. Now coming to the ring. D-W-L. Oh, my God. Dick-water lady! Dick water lady! She noticed a bad smell of the water to spend her at her job in a doctor's office following the August incident. She decided to only drink water from her own water bottles.

But last month, she thought her own water had been mixed with urine. according to court records a urine alice confirmed her suspicion she said footage from a camera in her office shows the janitor when he pulls out his penis and puts his penis in my bottle in my bottle basically rinses his penis in the water well how do you wash your dick vending in other people's water bottles car exactly i i treat their water bottles like people treat the ball washes at golf courses exactly dip i learned i acquired a sexually transmitted disease for which he is also tested positive for, she told ABC. He gave me an STD. I will have for the rest of my life. Nothing is going to change and nothing will make it better for me.

In fact, I feel like for the rest of my life, I will have to be careful. Yes. Yeah. Take your water bottle home. Don't leave it at your desk, stupid. Yeah. According to court records, Mr. Diaz is in the custody of immigration and customs enforcement. He's a Mexican national with unclear immigration status.

So you really shouldn't drink the water. that makes sense actually now that I think about it is that the name of this episode don't drink the water don't drink the water wow it's that easy to contaminate water

just let's do is touch a Mexican and it's bad for you now here's the fun part cheap labor well cheap labor is really important to some businesses yeah the woman said that the janitor kept

working at the building where the doctor's office is located despite the management being made aware of the situation and hey we have this video of the janitor sticking his dick in this lady's water bottle. Could you fire him or something?

He does a good job. 2.20 an hour. Who am I paying $2.20 an hour, too? I can only pay this subhuman over here from Mexico. I mean, I get it. You got to make business decisions. They have a duty to protect their tenants. And they wholly failed in those responsibilities, the woman's lawyer said.

So, lawsuit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The use of police department said that others could also have been affected, adding that Mr. Diaz could face additional charges. If I were him, I would just say this was like a cultural thing. Yes, correct. This is how we make sure the water is okay to drink by dipping our dick in it.

If my dick doesn't fall off, then it's good to drink. So I was really just doing this one with a favor. And frankly, I got the STD from her water bottle, okay? Oh, oh, that's good too. Yeah. Thank you. Maybe I should be the lawyer. I didn't know I had warts until I finally washed my dick off.

And there they are. All right. I didn't know idea. You'd think you can get away with that? Giving me an STD from your water bottle? How dare you? All right, you want to go to Florida, Carl? Oh, yeah.

We have a song for that? We do, and I just pulled it, so it would be right there for me. Oh, no, listen, we're playing the fucking Florida song. I'm not getting any more messages. Someone's not prepared. For what? Oh, I'm prepared. Florida.

You got to get your shit to get. I guess it. Why don't let it creepy bucks? Bigging bucks. What's the hell going home? Maybe it's a swamp gas. A flagrant Opie and a kid to get us. Uh-huh, uh-huh.

Come on for a gun. I love that song. It's great. It's very catchy. Sorry I forget to play it sometimes, folks. Now, Pinellas County, Florida. Police officers claim. man wrote children notes telling them to engage in sexual activity and abusive acts.

That's fun. James Donald Lakers, 66 years old, is locked up on a $10,000 bond for lecivious conduct record show. Authority said he did something like this before, writing a 10-year-old girl that she will be raped. You know what? I have to tell you, Vinny. You know, I don't like to give advice to these types of people, but I wouldn't use

the R word. I would say make love, you know. You are going to be forced. made love to. Yes. You want to be tender with, with these young girls. They don't like, our word's a turnoff. You will receive the tenderest force you've ever imagined. Correct. Well, can I add this to the, uh, to the proceedings here? Yeah. In the new arrest affidavit, deputies noted the term mentally challenged in the section labeled for aggravating mitigating factors. All right. So, uh, you got it on it. You got the, uh, you got the, uh, you got the ballot.

Do I have the bell? I sent you an email and told you to have something ready. Oh, yeah. I think I have that. Uh-oh, retard alert. Retort alert, class. Sorry, I was conserving my computer's energy for our double show today. I apologize.

On October 7th, Laker allegedly put a green sticky note on the victim's mailbox across the street from where he lived. It was addressed to two children, deputy said. Authorities identified the kids as a six-year-old and an 11-year-old. The notes told them to engage. in an act of sexual abuse with their three-year-old brother. Yeah. I think that's kind of a fun stick. You know, it just says, don't forget to suck off your baby brother. Oh, thanks,

Mr. Laker. Thanks, Mr. Laker. It's a little reminder for you. Tie a string around your finger. Tie his string around your finger's name of this episode. The defendant left a second note inside the victim's mailbox instructing the same, deputy's claim. On both occasions, the notes were fouled by one or both of the child victims. Mm-hmm.

Deputies say they canvass the neighborhood. They claim they filed the handwritten notes of the same handwriting at Lakers' home. So they were like, oh. Don't forget to write to tell your neighbors to suck themselves off. He's giving himself little reminders too. There's a sticky note on his mailbox. Don't forget to sexually harass the children. Don't forget to, with the vague rape threats.

Don't forget that. He's turning into Gary from San Diego in my mind right now. Don't forget to suck off your brother. That's not good. Hey, Carl. Don't forget to suck off your brother. When they asked this guy if he left the notes, he said. How should I know?

I'm retarded. Good answer. The defendant admitted to writing the inappropriate notes left on the victim's mailboxes, his deputies wrote. When asked why he did this, he said, quote, he felt like it. The defendant stated he was, quote, locked up when he did this 20 years ago. And he admitted it was wrong in the past. from to write notes like this to children.

When asked if he was having similar urges as he did in the past, the defendant replied, once in a while, Laker apologized. Oh, let's move on. He apologized. In the words of Ricky from trailer park boys, it's all water under the fridge. It's all water to the fridge. It's move on, guys. Records do not name an attorney working on his behalf.

I mean, because obviously, what does he need a lawyer for? No, he's got this. Yeah. They said he was charged in 2002 with looting lascivious conduct as well and did the same thing to the aforementioned 10-year-old girl introducing her to perform a sexually abusive act to herself. Yeah, you don't start this type of shit when you're 66 years old. If you're running notes like this to children, this has been going on for a bit. Dude, he literally, here's an excerpt from one of the, an additional note written by the defendant read.

P.S., I will show my penis. You will be raped. See, this is what I mean. You will be sued. Yeah, you can't, don't use the R word. It's very harsh. People don't like that. good point let's go down to carleton kentucky carol okay a carroll county man has been arrested on charges that he abused a two-year-old child and posted a recording of the abuse on a social media platform okay not smart benjamin j franklin benjamin franklin that's his name christ the balls on that mother to name her son benjamin franklin little betty franklin you better

be sure you got a genius coming out and it doesn't sound like that worked out wow uh you gambled and you lost honey mrs franklin so yeah that's a bad choice for a name he was arrested october 13th by the carroll county sheriff's department for criminal abuse of a child under 12 and strangulation he is scheduled to be arraigned october 19th his arrest reports as deputies were called to carroll county memorial hospital by the child's mother about her child being abused and said there was a story on snapchat belonging to franklin regarding it this motherfucker used Snapchat to put video of him holding the child

a two-year-old child up by their neck and shaking them, straggling them, as if he was Homer Simpson. Well, it actually sounded to me because he also threw the kid down on the bed. It sounded to me like he thought that he was like a professional wrestler and he was going after the toddler, brother. Wait until I see you in the ring, the toddler.

It'll be all over Snapchat. We're going to take things to a whole other level, dude. I'm going to kick your ass up and down Snapchat, brother. When I lift you up over my head by your neck. I'd slam you to the canvas, brother. You didn't have a chance, toddler. Did he give him the leg drop?

Did he go off the ropes and do the leg drop? Because I know that I personally, I prefer the people's elbow. Dude, all right. This might be a crazy idea. If it is, you can cut it out of the episode. But would that be a fun professional wrestling event where just adults beat the shit on the toddlers in the ring? by God. This is pandemonium.

That toddler's climbing up his back like a squirrel up a tree. Yeah. He's grabbing his hair. He's grabbing his hair. I picture the toddler after getting his ass kicked for 15 minutes straight, just gets up, starts freaking out, does the ear thing to the crowd. Everyone starts going nuts. He's stopping a mud hole on a little tiler.

Yeah. And then after the toddler gets all pumped up and ready to go, they just smash him down again. This would be fun. All right. That's inappropriate. Brad. I'm kidding. All of that was a joke.

The toddler's hands are taped. My God! He's out of the top rope. Franklin is being held at the Carroll County Detention Center on a $5,000 cash bond in order to have no contact with the boy, his mother, or their home. After locating him, though, he was advised of his rights. They straight up arrested him. And he admitted to deputies that, yeah, I did it. It's really hard to argue. you put it on fucking Snapchat.

See, I would have said, you haven't seen this new filter? There was no boy in this video. The child abuse filter. I was using the child abuse filter. They get rid of it already? Shit, that didn't last very long. It was on there when I was using it, though. It's great.

I don't know. I wouldn't come up with some excuses personally, but I don't like to get arrested. People aren't as smart as you. That's right, buddy. I like to get away with shit. So I make up excuses. The creep off. We like getting away with shit.

Yeah, baby. A Michigan man who's stalked. and sexually assaulted a four-year-old Lubbock, Texas girl and later told authorities that it wasn't wrong was sentenced Thursday to life in federal prison. Thomas John Boe Camp 22 years old received the sentence of the U.S. District Judge James Wesley Hendricks. Now, a federal jury in June convicted Boe Camp on 16 counts,

one count of transportation of a minor to engage in criminal sexual conduct. Well, she got herself there. Right? Didn't she travel to him? Okay. Well, I was going to tell you the charges that I was going to tell you the story. Yeah, please. So, tell the charges.

Transportation of a minor with intent to engage in criminal sexual conduct. One count of travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct. One count of enticement of a minor. Two counts of receipt of child pornography. Ten counts of production and attempted production of child pornography and one count of cyber stalking. Oh, bitch, bitch.

Beauchamp met the child identified in court with the alias Jane Doe on the instant messaging platform discord. Oh, that discord. I feel racist. They're also talking about my kids on there, too. He's trying to get in on this. She was just 13 years old, according to the authorities.

The pair exchanged a series of messages in which he threatened to hurt her family if she disclosed their budding relationship. Dude, you should have seen the comments. There was like 5,000 comments on this article. Yeah. If every parent talk about what a great parent there, I don't let my kids go on social media without my permission and I look at what they're writing

and I see what they're like, all right, you're the parent of the year. We don't have to keep shaming these parents. Their fucking 14 year old was raped and that's the first thing you think. I was like, well, fucking shame on them because if my kid's on Discord, I'm looking at all that. Jesus, strong with you. That's a good point.

I like how you're acting all high and mighty. Like, we're not going to blame the parents at just a minute. Yeah, I know. The man stalked and sexually assaulted a 14 year old. Then had the gall to claim in federal court that their so-called relationship was consensual. Amicham, the attorney said in a Thursday news release, the child who bravely faced her abuser in court,

asserted in certain terms that his advances were unwelcome. Now, once she was in Michigan, Bocapt kept Jane Doe in his home where he sexually assaulted her, forcibly removed her braces with pliers, strangled, and hit her. Okay. This is the thing now. This is not a good way to start a relationship. Okay.

So you meet online. Everything's going great. She agrees, y'all, I'm going to come meet you. I'll come hang out with you for the weekend. Like you got it, like you're giving pedophiles a bad name. you do that you know like take her out for a movie or you know go play ski ball did you just say you're giving pedophiles a bad name yeah because you're just going to start torturing her right away it's going to make it look like you're up to no good you know that is the perfect place for me to throw in the

plug for this bonus episode because we're going to watch this thing called chicken hawk today and chicken hawk was a movie about namba that was produced by an independent director in 1994 great it debuted to the New York Film Festival. And in order to get it made, the director agreed with the leadership of Nambla that they will let them tell their story. Oh, cool. And when they tell their story,

it's pretty fucking sick and evil. Good. I'm looking forward to that. That'll be fun. Yeah. So tune in, stay, you know, stick around, make sure you're on the Patreon. That show's going to be after this one.

So, Bocapp wrote a letter to the family member noting his victim supposed to betrayal. and asking for help to escape prison after he was already arrested. So I think that's pretty funny. At Thursday sedentary, prosecutors introduced into evidence

of record jailhouse phone call in which vocab insisted he would not apologize for, quote, unquote, rapy to a 14-year-old. I like teenage girls. They don't like that. I like that. He said as a federal agent's of prosecutors,

I frankly don't care what the morality is of this current time and place. It's not wrong. There's nothing wrong about it. And they're not going to ever convince me of its wrongness. So up theirs, I hate this nation.

I think Bocamp seems a little bit unhinged. If you ask me, like, honestly, CNN handled Trump winning the election better than this guy's handling these charges against him. Yeah, he's not doing it with grace or dignity.

No, not at all. He's not helping its cause. And by any means, he will not be shown in airports from now on based on this behavior. So life in prison for this fucking asshole. This is also from the article,

the teen's father testified at a trial that when she ran away to Michigan his terrified daughter brought her baby blanket with her oh well that's all well and good but your daughter's a whoreseer your 14 year old daughter traveled across straight lines to fuck a guy

she met on discord she brought her baby blanket to lay down so she didn't make a mess right exactly the fact that his dad's just like oh she's just this poor innocent girl's like no she met a dude on discord and decided to go fuck him listen I'm not victim

it sounds like I'm victim blaming I'm going to back up from the microphone. Sounds like I'm Victor Blamey here, Biddy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. All right, moving on. Well, that's the end of the scum parade this week, Carl. What a fun scum parade that was.

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We're to have a lot of fun. And I got some great scum parade stories. We're going to have a scum story. Wow. We have a lot going on today. This is going to be jam-packed. So we are going to end the show here today. And we'll be back next week.

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