The Creep Off - Episode 139: The Wildest of Cards

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

In this episode Vinnie spins the wheel of consequences, and we kick off the new round with a no holds barred wildcard match: In WATC we prove that we are better than "Crime Junkie": In the Scum Parade seniors are running amuck, we meet a meth fueled minstrel act, and we learn jealousy can be ugly.  Visit thecreepoff.com for links to vote for which of our hosts nominated the biggest creep and our Patreon and Supercast. Check out the stories here: Blackface Act Panned As Police Pop Painted Perp On Possession, Parole Raps | The Smoking Gun72-year-old woman sentenced to life for shooting neighbor 6 times after falsely accusing him of burglary | Truecrimedaily.comMichigan man, 76, gets federal prison time for leaving bombs at cell stores in anti-porn extortion scheme - mlive.comCalifornia woman killed sister and three-week-old baby over jealousy and sibling rivalry police say | Daily Mail Online

Hey everyone, welcome to midterms and maniacs, or as we call it, the creep off. This is a competition where the host tried to get you to vote for their creep. What's a creep you may ask? Well, that's up to you decide when you go to the subreddit and vote. After five wins, the winner makes the loser spin the dreaded wheel of consequences, which includes funny consequences, such as jumping into an icy lake, or going to Pennsylvania to beat a man who just had a stroke. Anyways, last week was Chadwick, and he had the choice between a heinous criminal with an extensive rap sheet

or a cute, funny, charming man named Ted Bundy. Anyways, that's all I got for this week. Tucker, out. Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock.

I'm going to deliver the goods, because I'm going to deliver the goods, because I'm I'm alive, and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo. Wild car, bitches! Yeh! Disgusting, vomit-inducing thing. Ola creepos, welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast, the show where 50% of its hosts are completely ashamed. The show about creeps, my creeps, for you creeps.

I'm your host. My name is Vinny. And joining me in studio, as always, it's hot. Cucca Carla. What is happening, Vinnie Paulino? I want to thank the fine folks of Buffalo, New York, for coming out to the isotope show. on Saturday night couldn't be nicer people

those buffaloonians really just salt of the earth not like those people from Miami those people they suck I don't like those people at all people in Buffalo fine fine people big fans of the creep off and we appreciate your support how do you feel about people from Minneapolis

they're fine okay they're fine okay I have cousins there I've made a decision in life I'm not going to be discussing football with you ever again good idea You get You, I'm not going to say, I'm just Please don't be offended by this.

Yeah, yeah, here we go. But your reactions to light teasing about the Buffalo Bills tend to be like stuttering John levels sometimes. I'll kill you! Yeah, I'll kill you. You get a little upset. So I just want an interest of having the good show.

No more hot football talk for you. Sounds good. Vinny, here's a tip for you. Wait 15 minutes after. after the interception and overtime. Just give me 15 minutes. All right. That's all I need.

And then I'm good. I was... Immediately. As the ball's being caught by a Viking. I'm getting fucking text messages from Phiddy laughing at me. All right. Well, maybe that was a little distasteful of me, but, you know, it's meant to be in fun of games.

Oh, good, buddy. All good. All right, pal. So last week we did creepiest Chad, and I went by the textbook definition, as we were supposed to, and you went by someone's first name. Either way, we created a matchup for the ages, Carl.

That's right. One of these matchups that you'll never see again, and we really got down to the consequence to the bottom of this. And here's the result. Who's creepier? Chad Zumach or Ted Bundy? And the answer is, Chad Zumach's overwhelmingly.

That's one of the biggest fan counts, or I would say vote counts that we've seen. On Reddit, yeah. Yeah, we've really inspired people to get out and vote. And I appreciate that. Well, you know, this was the biggest election in the country last week. That's true. Yeah. And I appreciate all the Cuzzaroos for coming out in droves.

Well, I hope all of them fucking choke and die while they're listening to this. See? See, this is why. Well, I was game point. And I let you, because I was being a nice guy because you were so bummed out about the Jets, I let you pick the category. Here we go. And you're like, Creepious Chad. I knew what you were going to do.

I knew you were going to pick Chad Zumach. Do you think I was a fool? I think what I texted you back was, let's do creepiest former radio host. And I called Chad Zumach, and you said, we already did that. I said, okay, let's do Creepious Floridian. And I picked Chad Zubak. And he said, now, we've already done that one. I said, okay, how about creepiest guy named Chan?

I picked Chad Zumok. It wasn't like a mystery. I was just, I was very, uh, interested in covering Chad's criminal record. I should have changed it. I said, how about we do, uh, creepiest guy not named Chad? Right. That's what you should have said. I should have said.

I should have said creepiest guys named Ted. Yes. That I would have won. But, uh, since I did not win, that means I will be spinning the wheel of cons going on this today. That is true. No, 9,000. Spitting the wheel day, everybody.

Tried lately. Oh, boy. And I got some, I got some ideas for new consequences, we'll talk about later. Uh, I put it. new one on the board there i took off the fast food job and i replaced it with give podcast hitman a hundred dollars sweet that's awesome it's for the rights for that awesome song that he said in last week yes i want a fucking like an animal feel the jingles from the inside all right i want to fucking like an animal

You get me closer to Carole. Can we talk about the bills instead? Jesus Christ. Oh, I love that song. I'm going to keep that around. And you know what? I love your wife very much, and I hope she never, ever hears that.

Okay. That's why you keep playing it. Okay, yeah. Well, no, no, I play it because it upsets you. It's really your fault. Yes, understood. Yeah. Never would have happened.

She never met you. So today we are going to be starting off a brand new round and traditionally on the creep off that means wild card oh I didn't know that is that we used to do that we kind of fell out of the habit cool like the idea of bringing it back because we don't do them enough a wild card's fun we go however we want to right so uh are you go ahead and pick Joe Biden already go ahead are we ready to start yeah ring that bell all right so I brought in a gentleman I don't believe we've covered this before this was a suggestion from someone on the Discord many moons ago.

A gentleman named Josh Powell. And Josh Powell married a woman named Susan Cox. She met him when she was 18 years old. He was 25. And they were members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Oh, I don't like this already. Yep. And within a few days, Josh proposed to her.

Oh, they wanted to fuck real bad. The couple was married at the LDS Portland, Oregon Temple. on October 6, 2001, they then moved in with Josh's father, Stephen, in the South Hill area in Washington State, where Susan suffered his advances. The father, Steve, would regularly steal her underwear and secretly filmed her for a year before confessing his obsessions in 2003. So they move in with the stepfather, or the father-in-law, and he's trying to bang his daughter-in-law. Well, it doesn't sound like he's trying to bang her. It sounds like he's just creeping on her. her. Well, he's creeping on her. He's obsessed with her. He definitely wants to get with her

if it's possible. And, uh, okay. So both Josh and Susan Powell were relieved when they moved to West Valley City, Utah in 2004. But unbeknownst to her, Josh had shown possessiveness and prior relationships. His ex-girlfriend, Catherine, had practically fled the state to break up with Josh over the phone due to his behavior. He seemed to be quite menacing and threatening. Okay. So someone had to literally flee the state. Yes, to get away from this guy. Because the phone calls were so bad. To get away from this guy.

Well, because she didn't want to see him in person after she broke up with him. She was concerned about that. Okay. So Susan was focused on her children and newfound work as a broker while Josh was in between jobs. She gave birth to two sons, Charles and Braden, in 05 and 07, only to suffer increasing marital strife rooted in Josh's lavish spending and him siding with his father when the subject of his obsession emerged. Josh declared bankruptcy in 2007 with more than 200,000. thousand dollars in debt who susan wrote a secret will in june of 2008 that stated that josh was threatening to leave the country and sue if she divorced him on july 29 2008 she even recorded footage

of property damage he had caused and i actually found a video this is really interesting she was obviously very concerned something bad was going to happen because she was constantly like filming videos here's tell me if you can hear this there's josh's razor And this is me, July 29, 2008, it is 1233, Mountain Time. Covering all my bases, making sure that if something happens to me or my family or all of us that our assets are documented. That's not normal, right? Does your wife ever shoot videos like this, Biddy? That doesn't seem normal to me.

Well, let me see. She has to update it every six months. December 6, 2009. Susan took her children to church. It was about 18 months after this video was recorded. She took her children to church. A neighbor who dropped by in the afternoon would be the last person outside the Powell family to see her. The next morning, her children never turned up for daycare, and the staff failed to reach either Susan or Josh.

So the daycare workers called Josh's mother and sister to notify them of the children's absence. Josh's mother then called the police. When West Valley City Police Detective Ellis Maxwell arrived at the Powell family home around 10 a.m. on December 7th, he noted that Susan's belongings were at the home. There were no signs of forced entry. And two fans were blowing on a wet spot on the carpet. Josh returned home with his children around 5 p.m., claiming to have gone camping. His children also agreed that this is what happened.

Yes, we were. camping. Yes, we were camping. He did not hurt Mom at all. However, Josh told detectives that he couldn't explain why Susan's phone was in his car. And investigators found a litany of tools in his vehicle, along with the fact that Josh had taken the children camping on a school night during freezing temperatures. But without a body, the Salt Lake City County District Attorney refused to file charges against anybody in the Powell family in connection with Susan Powell's disappearance. On December 8th, Josh running the car and drove 800 miles before returning to Salt Lake City Airport on December 10th.

On December 9th, however, police found blood-containing Susan's DNA on their carpet. And on December 15th, they found her handwritten documents in her safety deposit box. And in her handwritten documents, she explained that she's been an extreme marital stress for three to four years.

For mind of my children's safety, I feel the need to have a paper trail. He has threatened to skip the country and told me, if we divorce, there will be lawyers. So back in school Yeah, that's how divorces work

I don't understand Why would you be, what? There will be lawyers that we get divorced There will be lawyers If we get divorced Yeah, okay It sounds right

And there will be a tomorrow What's the problem What's the point? Back in school Charles One of the sons told his teacher That his mother

had come camping with them But was dead Braden drew a picture Of three people in a van And told his daycare worker That mommy was in the trunk Meanwhile, Police discovered

that Josh had liquidated Susan Powell's IRS Anyway, Josh and Susan's children moved back to Washington State that same month to live with his father, Stephen. But a search warrant of season's home yielded child pornography. Where they got to Steven's house? He's like, hey, where's Susan? Yeah, exactly. Where's that piece of ass you married, huh?

So they got a search warrant for Stephen's home because it's all very suspicious. They found child pornography and he was arrested in November of 2011. Josh lost custody of his children to Susan's parents. and was ordered to undergo a psychological evaluation on February of 2012 because when they looked at his computer, they found hundreds of disturbing images, including simulated child pornography, bestiality, and incest. Oh, he was going for the loophole child porn.

Yes, right. It's a drawing. It's fine. That's great, but you know, you're going to keep the dog fucking video? Yeah, I know. You're stupid. All right. So he lost custody of the kids, but he was not going to go easily with this one. On February 5th, a social worker brought his kids over for a supervised visit.

But as soon as the children were inside, Josh locked her out. He then incapacitated his children with an axe, doused them in gasoline, and set the house on fire. He tried to murder his two children with an axe. That didn't work. So he poured gasoline on them and set the entire house on fire. Moments earlier, he had sent his attorney a single-line email. I'm sorry. That's the only way to kill someone that's messier than an axe.

Yeah, right? I know. It's brutal. Brutal. So basically what happened was this guy, they never did find her body. They've been searching all over the place. It looks like he probably buried her somewhere, somewhere out in rural Utah and lit it on fire. And there's just no evidence or not.

no remains left. But yeah, this guy's a creep. He decided to go ahead and murder his wife. And then when things were looking like he might be arrested for that, he decided to kill himself and his children by burning his house out with all of them inside. Wow. Fun story. No.

Not even a little bit. Okay. That's awful. That's pretty bad. That is pretty bad. But not as bad as my creep today. Are you done? I am. What do you got, buddy?

All right. Listen, folks, before I start this, I want to bring you all back in your minds to another time. Okay? A time before we knew nothing about everyone else. A time when your mailman could have been the worst person on the planet. He could have been a Nazi. He could have been a full-blown fucking communist and you never gave a shit. Or he could have been a bad person. Right. Right. Yep. I remember that. You didn't care though. You know why? Because he smiled at that. you when he brought you to the mail.

It's all the matters. Left the package on the porch. That's all that matters. Yep. But this was before my creep today took over the fucking world. Uh-oh. My creep today is the real Z-man. He's forever altered society by creating a product more addictive than stuttering John

review podcast. Sounds diabolical. He is fucking diabolical. We're going to talk about how diabolical he is. Today we are going to talk about the soulless vacuum of human that is Mark Zuckerberg. I am looking forward to this presentation, Vinny. Please, take it away. Carl, I thought I would do you proud today.

Yeah, we got out of your way, buddy. Nobody saw this shit coming, but I figured this might actually be the one where you're on board with me. He grew up a weird on White Plains, New York. He attended Harvard University. Well, attended Harvard. He wanted to create a website for comparing the woman in his dorm's tits. He called it Face Smash. Yeah.

Did he not know Hot or Not was already out at that point? No, no, Face Smash, Carl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to see the girls in my dorm. Because that's what it was about Was his immediate world Sure He wanted to make something that was like

Just connecting the people that were in his General vicinity And I don't think this guy realized How big of the concept it was But it doesn't matter Because I don't think it was originally All his idea Okay

Now in February 2004 They founded Facebook With his roommates Eduardo Savarin Andrew McCollum Dustin Moscovitz and Chris Hughes Now They launched it on Select

college campuses and the thing got huge as we all know it had a billion users by 2012 yeah when it started you had to have a university email address to sign up it was only for college divs yeah and it was only for certain universities yeah so like i said a billion users by 2012 he took it public in 2012 in may with the majority shares in 2007 at age 23 he became the world's youngest self-made billionaire carl now in what year was that uh he was he was In 2007, by age 23, he was a billionaire. Okay. Yeah, he made a lot of money from this thing pretty quick.

Now, how did he make all the money, Carl? Well, advertising, but... Sure, but it's more insidious than that. Okay. Because this thing was designed. Facebook was designed and perfected over time to be insanely addictive. They used a three-step process. I'm going to let this guy explain it to you here,

because he'll explain it way better than I can. Facebook is specifically designed to use something. called behavioral design, a design that's now been adopted by almost all social media sites to addict you to their platforms. Behavioral design begins with a thing called motivation, which relates to whether or not someone would want to open the app in the first place. As people as social animals, we often take an interest in what our friends and family were up to. And by hijacking this basic human desire, Facebook steps in as a convenient middleman, giving us access to our loved ones at our fingertips. So, that's the first step. There's two more. And once you open up Facebook,

you're immediately prompted onto the next part of the behavioral design process, the action stage. This can be anything from leaving a comment, posting a status, or simply pushing a like button. But the key is for the action to be as straightforward as possible. The harder things are, the easier it is for users to break the attention loop. The final part of the process is the recursive element found in behavioral design. This is called the trigger, and it's what gets you to open the app over and over again. It's the most addictive part of all of this. This can be done through things like noise notifications, a phone vibration, or a ping on your

computer. But whatever it is, what the trigger needs to do is remind you to open the app and the motivation will do the rest. Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch. Now, nobody's making you light up a cigarette. No one's making you look at your Facebook. I am talking about the design here, what this thing was purposefully made to be addictive, because the goal is if you want to sell ads, you want to have as many people on this thing looking at it as often as possible. Sure. You're a marketing guy, Carl. You could tell me when I'm wrong. Well, I, I, believe that everyone who develops a product wants people to use it as much as possible. That's the whole point.

Right. But I feel like Mark Zuckerberg was very, very insidious. This is why I promote the creep off so much when I do other appearances and things. I want people to enjoy the show, watch it, listen to it. You know, that's part of the marketing element of business. Certainly. Certainly. But we also don't make this show to be completely addictive.

Well, maybe we should. I think we should. Yeah. Oh, we're doing this. We're doing this wrong. Never mind, Mark Zuckerberg's fine. So do you remember who Sean Parker was, a guy invented on Napster? Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, he also was the first president of Facebook. People don't remember that. But he did an interview after he left, and he had this to say. It's a social validation feedback loop. I mean, it's exactly the kind of thing that a hacker like myself would come up with because you're exploiting a vulnerability in human psychology. Yeah, that's right. They figured out how to fuck with your head with Facebook.

just with the app's design itself is meant to be addictive. Now, let's start talking about how you make the money here. Okay. Is it just the ads, Carl? I believe so, yeah. Well, isn't there also user information and things that are very valuable? Well, that actually, yes. That's the reason why the advertising works so well is you have so much information about users,

that they actually hand over to Facebook, and then Facebook says, hey, you want this information to advertise? Here you go. Sure. well in 2008 facebook allegedly violated several federal wiretap laws soon after launching their beacon program a federal class action lawsuit alleged that facebook had been analyzing and publishing the behaviors of users without their consent for example users would make purchases on sites like blockbuster and zappos those things would be published on their news feeds publicly in one instance a guy remember that yeah remember when it would just like you'd be playing a game or whatever you were doing it would just automate it post for you on your timeline like i don't want this thing fucking posting for me on my timeline one of the plaintiffs of this thing said it ruined his christmas gift for his wife wow because he bought something and the fucking shit popped up on his facebook page all right i have a drop for that i believe who gives a shit who gives a fuck fine you're gonna go to court

go i ruined christmas scares i bet his wife was up yeah sounds like this the student highlighted facebook is an approaching violation of anti-hacky law and wiretap law a decade before some of the other schedules that they were going to have. Now, here's the interesting thing. You could opt out of being involved in this stuff, supposedly somewhere in the Facebook terms and services. But in 2009, secretly without telling users, they changed 350 million users' privacy settings with no notice,

opting them in to just harvest as much information as they could from these people. Sure. Now, in 2011, Symantec did an investigation and they discovered that not only were they harvesting all this information, they weren't even fucking protecting it. Right. Because the information was leaking out to over 100,000 different applications that are merged into the Facebook codes and shit.

Yeah. So all of these places were just able to take all the information that Facebook was stealing, or not stealing, but harvesting. Sure. And leaking this information wherever they wanted to. I think that's insane. Now, I'm just trying to get through some of the points. of this. But their biggest

data breach of all time was the Cambridge Analytica situation. The files were published by the Guardian and the data from 50 million user profiles was co-opted by political consultancy Cambridge Analytica. A whistleblower revealed that the information had been

used to profile audiences for Trump's election campaign material as well as the efforts of a thing called vote leave. A $1 million profile harvesting operation brought the importance of the data protection to the forefront and illustrated the power of data and commodities. So this company realized Facebook was leaking all this shit

and just used it for political stuff. So the question is this. Is Mark Zuckerberg a creep? Yes, he created something that was incredibly addictive to get people addicted to it. And then he's been careless with all of the information that he's gotten from it. I mean, geez, Trump got elected to be the president.

This is all Zuckerberg's follow. Well, can I also bring up the fact that in order to overcompensate for the Cambridge Analytica breach, in conjunction with Congress and all this new oversight because of that situation, the Hunter Biden's laptop story was completely suppressed on Facebook because they called it misinformation. Now they have all these extra things to block stories. Now that story turns out to be completely true. and it was blocked right before a major election. So this guy's damned if he does. He's not, he's damned if he doesn't.

But the problem is this motherfucker created this goddamn addictive thing that everybody is on and can't seem to fucking break away from. And that's what they're getting the majority of their news. And it can very easily be skewed. You are fake news. Is he a murderer? I don't know. Is he a pedophile?

I can't prove it. Stop it. But it is questionable. how much blood is on Mark Zuckerberg's hands here. Okay. Okay. Now, this clip is an opinion of an unaccredited and will remain uncredited expert

on a recent appearance of a friend of our show. According to UC Davis, suicide is the second leading cause of death among people ages 10 to 24 and has been increasing every year since 2007. Yeah. The rate of suicide for those 10 to 24 increased nearly 60% between 2007 and 2018, according to the CDC. That's right, Carl. that guy sounds smart he sounds like he knows what he's talking about i uncredited i will give that man

no credit okay here he went on to talk about the other things that they found out oh this generation boring a study on the impact of social media on undergraduate college students showed that the longer they use facebook the stronger was their belief that others were happier than they were but the more time the students spent going out with their friends the less they felt that way this fucking goddamn phone app has warped for reality in the brains of a generation. Agreed. And not only that, this uncredited source also is accusing Mark Zuckerberg of committing perjury.

CEO Mark Zuckerberg said a congressional hearing in March of 2021. The research that we've seen is that using social apps to connect with other people can have a positive mental health benefits. So he's lying. Oh, there it is, folks. You are fake news. Now, I have a clip of our boy, the Z-man, sitting in front of Congress. Okay. And Democrat from Massachusetts Senator Markey asked him this question.

And I'm sorry if this is long, but just listen to the deflection on this. I'm such an important fucking thing. Would you support a child online privacy bill of rights for kids under 16 to guarantee that that information is not reused for any other purpose without explicit permission from the parents or the kids. Senator, I think the, as a general principle, I think protecting minors and protecting their privacy is extremely important. And we do a number of things on Facebook to do that already, which I'm happy to get into your help. And I appreciate, I'm talking about a law. Should we have a lot to protect these kids?

We support a law to ensure that kids under 16 have this privacy bill of rights. I had this conversation with you in your office seven years ago about this specific remember how we talked about this mark and and i think that's really what the american people want to know right now what is the protections of this what are the protections that are going to be put on the books for their families but especially for their children would you support a privacy bill of rights for kids where opt-in is the standard yes or no senator i think that that's an important principle and i appreciate that and i think We need a law to protect Yes or no, Mark?

That's my question. Do you believe we need a law to do so? Yes or no? Senator, I'm not sure if we need a law, but I think that this is certainly a thing that deserves a lot of discussion. I couldn't disagree with you more. We're leaving these children

to the most rapacious commercial predators in the country who will exploit these unless we absolutely have a law on the books. the books. And I think it is absolutely... Please give a short answer. Senator, I look forward to having my team follow up to flesh out the details of it. I don't think this is a difficult... Senator Frike. Senator Fake. To get a correct answer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. He would not answer that question. Well, it's kind of a bullshit question because... He's definitely grandstanding. Well, here's... Yeah, of course. Because here's the thing.

Who are you more concerned about having your private information? Uh, corporation or the deep state because the NSA and CIA, they wouldn't have to adhere to this law. They're allowed to just find out any information about U.S. citizens they want and use it against them at all times. And by the way, they work very closely with Facebook to do that. Well, I was just going to say the Republican Party about a month ago released a thousand page document accusing Facebook of giving information to the FBI about conservative voices without warrants. They were just like, here you go. Yeah. Yeah, this is what's going on right now.

Okay. And so I agree with you 100%. And the whole idea they put Mark Zuckerberg in front of these politicians. They can grandstand it's so obnoxious anyway. It's just a waste of everyone's time. Now, they did waste his time because there's other places where he's dropped the ball, Carl. Yeah. There's other places where Facebook has spectacularly failed.

And I'm just going to bring up two things real quick before we go. Great. Myanmar. You familiar with Myanmar and Facebook's relationship? I don't remember. Okay. So the country in 2020, was embroiled in a genocide towards Rohingya Muslims.

I'm sorry if I'm saying that wrong. I'm 100% sure I said that wrong. Yes. Now, Facebook was being used directly by the military of Myanmar. Okay. Here's what they were doing. They were setting up shops and they were having military personnel create Facebook pages, unassociated with the military, to spread,

we need to get these people out of our country. If you see them, get them. And horrible, horrible racist things. about these people who are living in their country. Sure. Now, usually this would be against Facebook's terms of, you know, terms and conditions. Yeah. But the problem was, you know, he's so busy testified in Congress.

They forgot to hire moderators than spoke permese. Okay. So this shit was going on for a very, very long time. And other people, not me, have described Facebook as an absentee landlord where these people were just using the tool to do fucking complete evil. If only there was a way to translate languages into it. a language that you do know that was easy to use. Yeah, turns out

either way, they were using it to fucking aid in genocide. Now, what does the man who controls the minds of millions of people already have planned for society next, Carl? Oh, boy, I can't wait for the metaverse.

The fucking metaverse. A universe that users can live in that's completely owned by Mark Zuckerberg. Yay, how fun. This is terrible. Can I buy a house Mr. Zuckerberg? Can I have an apartment in your new Metaverse?

Not only is this thing fucking greedy. Can't wait to pay this guy fucking rent for virtual space. It's gonna be great. For a fucking app where the fucking graphics

look like a Wii game. Yeah. It's not great. I do own an Oculus, by the way. I have one too and I never use it. I'm part of the problem. I'm sure you are.

I'm all in with VR. Let's go. It's not. doing well. You know that, right? It's not doing well. No, Facebook stock is plummeted. Yes, that's right. I think Zuckerberg lost, except it's like $80 billion. That's too high of a number, but it's some ridiculous number.

Well, it's a drop in the bucket for this company. It's a drop in the bucket. I don't know, man. I think that they're having a lot of issues right now because with, well, I don't want to get into it. Anyway, their advertising models getting fucked up by Apple and they're going to have some issues. I think that's great. But I do feel bad because it is we are coming up on the high. holidays, Thanksgiving is just a week or two away. And then, obviously...

What kind of pizza do you eat on Thanksgiving? Thanksgiving pizza. Yeah, that's what I thought. It's fucking amazing. And that's what I also eat the day after. Now, this just this week, they fired 11,000 employees by email. I saw that. So happy holidays, everybody.

Mark Zuckerberg, the Z-Man, when you go to vote this week on Reddit. Wild card, bitches. Okay. Very good, Vinny. Is that the... That's my... That's the presentation. that's it all right well with that i think it's time that we move on to another edition of

creepos that's right viny this is the part of this show where we like to get a little petty and talk about other true crime shows and how they're not as good as the creepoff and we don't just say that we prove it and the way that i do that is by bringing in another true crime show and one at a time dissecting it and letting the fine folks out there who listen to you to the creep off know that they are in the right place for all of your true crime needs. That's right. We even did that on this last edition of WATP. That's correct. Yeah, little stinkers podcast, which interestingly enough does have a pretty big fan base. Yeah, people are mad at us about it already. Yeah. I noticed that. I want to bring

to you today a show called Crime Junkie. Vinny, are you familiar with Crime Junkie? You know I'm not, Carl. Oh, I thought you would be. It's one of the biggest shows, one of the biggest podcasts in the World, hosted by Ashley and Britt. Their podcast is so large that they actually were able to transition off of Patreon and build their own paywalled content on their website, similar to what Mike Boudet's done, sort and scale. So they are doing very well for themselves and be very successful true crime podcast.

I've never listened to it before. I will say that they do a good job presenting the cases. It's obviously very professional. I don't like the editorializing that happens, though. These women cannot help themselves. Most notably, the fact that there isn't really any signs of a struggle anywhere in the house. And I mean, you would obviously expect to see a struggle in a case where you have two parents at home with a nine-year-old daughter. I mean, I would fight like hell if I even had a tiny chance to protect my child.

All right, we got it. Everyone loves their kids. Shades of Nancy Grace there. Yes, I know. Making it about her for no reason whatsoever. No, we know that. Right. If someone's trying to harm your child, you're going to struggle.

Anyway, this is a story about the short family, and the short family, a mom and a dad and a nine-year-old daughter, they, one day, they went into the home and both parents had a bullet through their head, and the nine-year-old was missing. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, this is the true crime story that we're talking about today, and I thought this was odd. Investigators also find a pretty significant amount of cash, like $485 just lying out on the kitchen counter. 485 is significant. I mean, maybe if you're 40 years old and still trying to be a stand-up comic, that would seem like a lot of money. But to normal people, I wouldn't call that a significant amount of money.

I'm going to go over here and cry in the corner. All right. So what's weird about this show, Vinny, is it takes forever to get to where it's going to eventually get to. And the whole time going, why are you giving us this information? It doesn't matter. None of it matters. So, okay, if it's not her, who is it and who is this man? But that's a question we never get the answer to.

Then why did you bring it up? Why did you bring up? She keeps introducing new information and details. And by the way, they had nothing to do with anything. Well, okay. What do we do? We're filling time here? What's going on?

So then there's these tips that are coming in for this missing nine-year-old girl. And this is just wild speculation out of nowhere. The next development in the case doesn't come until early September when investigators receive another tip. And I'm not actually sure where they receive it, like if it comes through a phone call or during an interview, but they hear that there's a possibility that Jennifer might not actually be Michael's biological daughter. And without literally anything else to go on, I think investigators start to wonder. Like, if this is true, what if Jennifer's biological father was involved in her disappearance somehow? Like maybe he didn't know about Jennifer at all

Then somehow found out It set him off He decided to kidnapper, murder Mary and Michael That kind of thing Like what the fuck? Did you hear that leap that she just took? It's possible The father who's dead in the house

That might not be his biological father There's no evidence of this It's possible And then all of a sudden it turns into And maybe the biological father found out That he had a daughter And didn't even know about it So he went there and shot him up

And then here's the payoff On that wild speculation But investigators discover That Jennifer is 100% the biological child of both Mary and Michael. Okay. That's what we assumed to begin with. Why did you introduce this nonsense then?

What's the point of that? Filler. Is this what we should be doing, Vinny, just making up random stories about shit and just... And that taking it back? Yeah, but actually, no of that's true. Okay, cool. Is Mark Zuckerberg a cannibal?

Well, some people would say that he is a cannibal and that he ate his first wife before that Chan Lady. But turns out that's not true. Moving on. Metaverse. All right. So then they talk about in another state, this is all happens in Virginia. I think in North Carolina, there's a guy on his property as a pond. The dogs find some bones in the pond. So he alerts authorities about it. Of course, even though it's across state lines, Eddie's house isn't actually that far from the Shorts house. So everyone is immediately wondering,

could these be Jennifer's remains? They do a preliminary test by comparing hair samples. And just based on that, their initial finding is that this is not a match for Jennifer. What? I know. What? Piddy. That's what I'm saying. I don't listen to true crime shows.

I guess this is how it goes. It's just like, and this didn't happen. And that didn't happen. And this thing could have happened, but it didn't. Like, okay. Wow, that's hysterical. So then, this is going on for years now where they're getting tips and they're investigating people and they're just hitting dead end after dead end.

And then she brings this up. The landlord also told police that he had seen Gary with a gun on the day that the shorts were murdered. And the day after that, Gary and his mobile home were gone. Oh, well, that sounds like a pretty good lead to follow up on it. This guy, this landlord told the police that and they're not doing anything about that. So they finally tracked down this guy. We're still waiting for that DNA test to come back. Yeah, so they finally tracked down this guy, Gary.

And listen to the use of the dramatic pause here. Jenny, this is pretty impressive. But when they take a closer look at the map, there is something unexpected on it. Whoa! It really hooks in, doesn't it? I thought she took a nap or something. Wait, did the show just end?

I thought my internet just skipped. All right, I'm going to try this dramatic pause thing. I think that's pretty cool. Hey, Vinnie, I heard that you think Mark Zuckerberg is the biggest creep, but you know who's even a bigger creep? No, it actually is Mark Zuckerberg. You were right. No, thank you.

Okay. So they investigate this guy, Gary, who moved to Canada right after these people were murdered. And he got pinched for a DWI up in the Northwest Territory of Canada. And it turns out he's a bit of a lust. and I thought this was an interesting phrase. I've never heard this before. According to an Associated Press report filed in the Star News Online, his friends basically say that Gary suffered from a severe alcohol use disorder

to the point where he was drinking a case of beer every day. Severe alcohol use disorder. Have you ever heard that before? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Okay. It's called the Melendez syndrome.

I was thinking that. He's got OCD and I always got this thing too. S-A-U-D. I guess, severe alcohol use disorder. But it turns out, Fiddy, SUD. Turns out having this severe alcohol use disorder is an amazing alibi. And when they parted ways in the evening,

he says Gary was so inebriated that there was no way he could have driven to Virginia, committed the murders, abducted Jennifer, especially without leaving any forensic evidence behind. Carl, did you commit this crime? No, I was wasted. Are you kidding me? Of course not.

Do you know what wasted I was? there's no way I could have done that. That's hilarious. I like that aisle by. You're going to be using until the day you die. I think so. So, this was back in 2002. Fast forward, 2019.

So this is 17 years have passed. They haven't solved this crime. Okay. Then the chance to get answers from that was lost for good in February of 2019 when the house where Mary and Michael's bodies were found unexpectedly burned to the ground. Though, interestingly, or maybe not, the fire has never been officially linked to their murders. So 17 years later, the house where they've already gotten all of the evidence they're ever going to get burns down.

She goes, now, was that tied to the murders? Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. It wasn't. No, it's because the landlord broke it up into apartments and some asshole fucking put up a hot plate. Yeah, of course. So anyway, again, just another detail that doesn't make any sense. It had nothing to do with anything.

So this story just goes on and on that Maybe it was this, maybe it was that So I'm waiting for the big payoff, Vinny I just want to know what happened to Jennifer If you or anyone you know Has information that could help this investigation Call Henry County Crime Stopper is at 276 632

You can get away with this You can just tell a story that has no ending And put that out as in a podcast episode And then she thinks it her audience Is he going to figure this shit out? They've been looking at this for 20 years. No one knows. Serious calls only, folks.

Serious calls only. There is on their website. They do have a police sketch of a suspect, and I'm pretty sure it's Opie. Because I did check it out. I think I might, maybe I need to let them know that he looks a lot like Greg Opie Hughes. Cheers. So, meaning, listen, it's a well-produced show, crime junkie. You know, for people who like true crime, obviously they like this kind of thing.

I just found it annoying. Well, Carl, I also found an annoying. So we're better than that show. Thanks for listening to The Creepoff. You ready for some voicemails? Yeah, let's do it. Well, the voicemail segment is brought to you by our friends in Syracuse. The Creepoff voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse.

Syracuse, where the only thing that collapses faster than our football team is our infrastructure. See you in Syracuse. God, what happens? happen to that football team. They started so strong. They were, my buddy Kevin was going crazy about it. I bet. Wop, wah. Not good. Yeah. Oh, that's right.

I'm not supposed to talk about football with you. First voicemail. All right. So the obvious thing to do here for the wheel of consequences don't just give podcast hitman money. Give him your half of the Patreon money. Fuck no.

Thank you, fuck, you. Bye. That's ridiculous. Yeah, we would never give him that much money. ever i would i i've already feel bad giving them a hundred dollars he's just going to spend it on you know other inmates so he doesn't get raped by them yeah i wonder what you he will spend that money on is he get like lucy cigarettes or what do you buy in prison when you have a couple hundred bucks i don't know what you do with that here's a message from our pal tampon tom vinny it's your buddy tampon uh how fuck is it that uh podcast hitman has an ipad like

They allow him to use an iPad in prison. And also, how weird is that he can't listen to a podcast from the iPad? What a weirdo. Don't give him money, please. Hey, Tampon, I hate to ruin the mystique of the show. He didn't really record that song. That wasn't really... Oh, is that why he thought he had an iPad?

I think he did. Okay. Yeah, I don't think he has an iPad. And if he does, it's not connected to the Internet. The Wi-Fi in prison sucks. All right. I figure the problem. Here's a consequence suggestion.

All right. Also, Vinnie, Carl, uh, we'll comment this idea. Carl has to allow a podcast hitman to a smash Jenny jingle in a consul visit. Uh, yeah, I think that'll,

Carl just cheat and make sure it doesn't happen, but, you know, they have a good idea you can do it. No, how is that fair to me, sir? What is Vinnie's consequence here? I don't understand.

understand that at all, Vinny. I am going to say no to that one. My consequences will be my sorrow for Jenny. And what did poor Jenny do to deserve such a thing? I have a voicemail for us here. All right, go ahead. Hey, Carl, Vinny is the worst host ever. Yep. First, on the creep off, he doesn't pick a guy named Chad, and he goes with fucking Bundy. And then he teases us saying that there's a really hot chick. He spends two minutes looking for the picture. And then apparently he just said it to you the listeners had to suffer through those two minutes we don't even get to see the girl this guy is out of control he sucks i agree thank you for the note sir i'll be better sir i'm sorry you know what you're right i i showed it to carl i didn't show to

he didn't put it up on the screen that's fine i i really she wasn't that hot it's fine no all i said was she had a tiffany ambrithyson thing going on and wrong okay i've been wrong before All right, those are the voice fails I had this week And Carl, I guess that means it's time for a scum parade Let's go All right, let's do it. You are fake news Scum parade

Take me on a raid Of these fucks your raids That these creeps have made Scum parade Vinny and Carl Gonna tell you about some fuck shit Scum parade Like stories of a kid

Fucked by his mom or dad Soaking up the blood of a cat's gun parade Carl, I'm sorry I said these to you so late today It's okay But I changed up what I wanted to do I'm going to show you Well, let's start off with this, I'm sorry folks Investigators have been looking for a guy named Rufus Barron

35 years old an outstanding warrant when his own mother called the police to report that her son was asleep at her house in Madeira, California. Now, when officers arrived at the residence around 11 or 1.30 a.m., they discovered Barron dressed like this. Now, keep in mind, this gentleman was on the lamb. Yes. All right, there he is. So he is covered in black paint. It's not, it's black face, but it's also black body.

That is correct. Yeah. He painted himself black. Now, as they started searching the residents, they found something really, really insidious there. Let's talk about Matt, baby. Let's talk about a yes, sir, re. Let's talk about all the bad things and the bad things, Matt and see. Let's talk about Matt.

Now, I'm going to give this guy a lot of credit. This was an intriguing idea. Yeah. The cops are looking for me. Blackface. Blackface. Now, I read this article, and it gave me an idea for the wheel of consequences. Nope.

Blackface meth bender. Come on, Biddy. Come on, blackface meth bender. Let's do it. I'll think about it maybe for the next time. Wheels already full this week. Okay. So he's being held on the county jail on multiple charges,

including possession of a controlled substance, violating parole and possession of drug paraphernalia. I give him credit, you know, meth heads, they do try. Yeah, I mean, it's, if his mom hadn't ran to them out, I think he would have gotten away with it. No, he would have been stabbed on a subway. But let's go down to Florida, shall we, Carl? I like that the police are looking for him, so he thinks, well, they're probably not looking for a black guy. I'll just dress up as a black guy. That way, the police will leave me alone.

Yeah, good luck with that. Yeah, it makes sense. All right, Escumbia County, Florida. Florida You got to get your shit together Why so many creepy bugs What the hell going on? Maybe it's a small gas

Hopefully we'll be able to get us Come on for a gun Carl, Ascumbia County, Florida, 72-year-old woman was recently sentenced to life for shooting her neighbor six times. This is one horny, 72-year-old woman right here. This is my favorite story of the day. This is a fun one. On the evening of September 25th, 2020, Yaghanada Grace Bushbaum shot her next-door neighbor at Myrtle Grove Villa apartments. The attorney's office had prior to law enforcement's arrival, Bushbaum lured the victim closer to the back door of her apartment.

under the pretense of giving him a gift, then shot him six times and claimed he was trying to break into her apartment. Yeah. Now, a few days before the incident, Bushbaum reportedly filed a false complaint of burglary against the victim. A warrant was allegedly issued for the victim's arrest. On the night of the shooting, Bushbaum called authorities to have them come serve the warrant. Now, Uganda Bushbaum has attempted to kiss him on September 24, 2020, but he had to physically stop her advances towards him. So she's obsessed with this guy. You don't say. She, uh, she's like, if I can't have him, nobody can. It's basically what this came down to. The report continued, he said that Bushmom had

developed romantic feelings for him, and he believed she had wanted a relationship with him. Let her take her dentures out and go down on you, buddy. What's the problem? I don't understand. According to the state attorney's office, the victim suffered critical injuries, but survived the shooting. Bushman was found guilty of attempted second degree murder with a firearm on July 29th, following the two-day trial. Several months later, November 9th, she was sentenced to life in Florida's Department of Corrections.

So another six monsters, though, okay. Yeah, sure. Okay, fine. Hey, I forgot to mention it's Super Chat Monday. Oh, Super Chat Monday. How do we forget that? Yeah, if you want to slap your Super Chat sit there right now, we'll read them at the end of the show.

The long-going tradition that is Super Chat Monday on the creep off. I know. How do we forget that? We're fools. Bay City, Michigan, Carl. Yes. Last summer, homemade bombs and threatening letters began appearing in Michigan's cell phone stores and cell towers. According to the letters, the items were dispersed to scrap pornography from the internet and make the author of these letters $5 million.

Okay. It sounds like a good plan so far. Nope. It was not a great plan. Unfortunately, the 76 Romaine who penned these letters has basically decided that his, crusade well his crusade didn't make him rich he was trying to get he's going to jail this john d al is fucking going to federal prison it's there's so much alliteration in this stupid story i know it's not well written okay 75 months to six and a half years in prison is what he is sentenced to the plea agreement states allen on october 24th 2021 drove a ban drove a van from his loscoe county home then he placed polka dot envelopes

containing letters on at least three cell phone towers purporting they were authored by the Coalition of Moral Communications. So he made up this fake organization that has members in 27 states according to the letters and he would leave bomb threats at cell phone stores and on cell phone towers. Right, because that's going to get rid of pornography if we just get rid of these stupid cell phones and cell phone towers.

His notes were addressed to AT&D, Verizon, and other cell phone carriers. In them, Alan demanded all telecommunications containing immoral content, such as pornography, be removed from the internet within 180 days. Dude, if you want to get rid of pornography, teach fathers how to be good parents. That's how you'll get rid of pornography in this world. Yeah, hug your daughters. Right, exactly. Give them some attention.

He also demanded $5 million before. paid according to instructions that would be provided in future communications so not only is he trying to get rid of the internet he's trying to make a quick buck Alan wrote that if he did not receive the funds he would destroy all these cell phone towers now sounds like a good plan to me so you're saying that it didn't work no it did not okay now in furtherance of his threatened extortion Alan made two pipe bombs at his home they were fully functional and contained shrapnel the plea agreement states so this guy stopped jerking off like I imagine this guy could not like it was just a complete porn on the internet addict and figured the only

thing he had could do is like shut it down for everybody else probably yeah so uh yeah so he's gonna blow up a verizon store and that was gonna solve all the problems no it was an AT&D store yeah he placed one at an AT&T store then he headed back over uh the bridge to a Verizon store but a second uh second bomb in front of one of those and both bombs were placed in cardboard united states postal service boxes that had CMT written on them and contained hands handcuffs. You know, if his goal was just to take out some smartphone salespeople, I'd kind of be on board with them. But I don't like the motive on this one. They also bore writing indicating this was, quote, the last warning and that the next incident would be during business hours.

Oh, that was nice of him. It's always nice to give the heads up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Law enforcement on September 2020, and executed a search warrant on Allen's home after footage from surveillance cameras incriminated him because you know when you're dropping off bombs in front of stores it's incriminating yeah yeah it's you're not very smart you're not doing this well no he was arrested and he confessed pretty quickly that he had uh left the notes and the two pipe bombs so he is getting seven years in jail because none of them went off if one of them had gone off i imagine this would be a much stiffer sentence sure but he's 76 years old right so i i think that that's a pretty I think we'll take him out for a good amount of time.

Agreed. Yeah. I think that's basically a life sentence is what we're trying to get out. I think that's what I'm saying. Fucking senior citizens on the muck in this week's company. Seriously. Wow. They're fucking running amok.

When I'm in my 70s, that's why I'm going to start my crime spree too. Why not? Bro. That's the time to do it. I wish I would be there with you when you could see a 70s. I know. I wish you could be there too.

But if I have, dude, that's the way we go out. Meth Bender. Meth Bender. Let's go. Like 74, I might be persuaded to do the blackface meth thing. You might be able to convince me a little easier. Now, we're going to California to end this show today. A woman from California and her three week old baby were killed by her older sister and gangster boyfriend out of quote, pure jealousy.

I believe that this is a legal abortion under California law, though. Am I correct about that? With the new rules, yes. This was, Pelosi wrote this. Yeah, exactly. She was like they could be up to four weeks out of the womb. Yes. And as long as you only use one bullet, it's legal.

Urelli Salero Rivera 22 has been arrested over the cold-blooded shooting death of her 18-year-old sister, Yinelli Solera Rivera. So Yorelli and Yinelli. Dude, every name except for John Allen has been fucked up at this one. You got Rufus Yagodonda, Yarelli. What are these names? Who are these people? Who are these people? W-A-A-T-P. And her infant daughter, Celine, who was just 21 days old at the time of her death.

Urelli's boyfriend, Martin Arroyo Morales, 26, known as a gang member, has also been arrested over the killings. They thought that it was like a serial killer. Fresno police have charged both with two counts of premeditated murder. We have the murder weapon, a Smith and Weston 9mm, millimeter handgun, and they have a motive. Jealousy and sibling rivalry, the sheriff's department, said, Hey, I got a question for you, Benny. Are these the Mexicans Trump was warning us about? These are the ones specifically, aren't they?

Well, Yinelli seemed fine. Yeah, well, probably. Now, Carl, I just want to point this out. They're saying, they're accusing this woman of being jealous. Believe me, she would not be my first choice that I can tell. Well, the murderer would not be your first choice. Here's the images. I'm going to give them to you.

Let's get Rufus out of that. Let's get Rufus out of there. Now, here's the sister. who died. Yep. Smoke show. There's the sister who killed her. I could see where there would be some jealousy.

By the way, that baby is a really cute kid too. I'm not going to show the baby. Yeah, that, I mean, that photo of the kid, I'm just like, oh, come on. I just have to say, pretty simple. That's like an open-it-chuck case. If they just sit down and show the picture of her and go, she was jealous, convicted. Yep, makes sense. Now, they supposedly had no idea who committed this crime.

until they found some surveillance footage. They were kind of thinking it might be the sister. And they found some surveillance footage from like around the corner and another store putting her car in the area. And they ended up arresting her. They zeroed in on Urelli and her boyfriend. And then they confessed to the killings when they were arrested. So a bunch of dummies admitting they did it.

That's what the sister gets for being younger and hotter. That's what you get. I'm glad my brother. Well, it didn't feel that way. Yeah, well, good thing you weren't hotter than your brother. That's good. Oh, I am. You should see that mutant.

All right, folks, I guess that means it's time for me to fucking do my duty as a co-host of the creep off and fulfill my consequence and spin the fucking wheel. I've been doing practice spins all day. Yeah, I know. You're getting good at it. And I'm not fucking pleased. You're getting good at it over there. Now, there is one thing you can land on that you would be very happy about, and that's pushing the spin over to me. Correct.

The other options are all consequences. That is correct. I'm trying to, sorry, folks, let me get situated here. Yep, all right, get that in the shot, and let's go through and talk about what we have here. Pass the spin. Yes, that's the one you want. Patreon money. Oh, the Patreon money.

I had to deal with that consequence for a while, and that's where, right now we spend. split at 50-50, but if he lands on that, I get all of the money until he wins again, which could take months. The way you're going, it could take years. I would quit the show. I would be done. Knife-edge chops. Three knife-edge chops from Colin Delaney.

Yep. I can't read it. Truck nuts. Oh, you got to put truck nuts on your car? Okay. Five-episode podcast series about the winner's choice of topic. Okay. Very good.

You had to do that before. Go to church. Oh, right? Were we going to add the dress as insane cloud posse or now? No, we're just going to go to church. I don't want to get thrown out. Murder and makeup. Oh, yes, the murder.

You have to make a video similar to that woman who does the murder and makeup show where you tell a true crime story while applying makeup. Drive to Gary, Indiana. Oh, that's still on there? We got to get rid of that one. Dinners with listeners. Okay, I had to do that one. Tom Myers Restaurant's another one that Jesus, fuck.

I mean it's in Baltimore Chicken bikini Oh okay Yeah I like that We had chicken bikini Two hour song torture $100 for podcast Hitman

Okay that's the new one Cardiff stand up Oh what is that Cardiff Rights a standup set for you have to do it in an open mic Correct Okay Correct And then we're back to pass

All right Wow What is going to happen today Here we go All right Join us again next week and we'll fight, we'll give you the answer. And around and around it goes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or he's not cheating. All those hands in the way. I can't see it. Money to podcast, Hitman? God, no. You get my Patreon, buddy. Fuck yeah.

It's a just world. This is a just, just world. Motherfucker. Vinny, Vinny, Vinny. Fuck. Vinny, Vinny. It was funny when you did this show for nothing. Yeah, I know.

It was pretty funny, wasn't it? Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny. Let's see how long we can get this going now. Guys, if Vinny doesn't win another game, he has to keep giving me his half of the Patreon money. So let's keep this going. This is such bullshit. This is great.

Oh, Christ's sake. This is good stuff. Oh, congratulations. Thanks, buddy. That was fun. This is a fun episode today. I'm having a lot of fun today. Is everyone having as much fun as I am?

This is great. No. Oh. I'm going to read our super chats now because there's only two of them today. Okay. What do we got? Dixon Marie says, could we get creepiest,

can we do creepiest person of size again? Oh, yeah. I think we could do round two of that at some point soon. Yeah. Who did I pick? Was it you? I can't remember. It should be that Jake kid from Little Stinkers.

Oh, man. I watched a little bit of a stand-up after you told me. Not great. Yeah. I don't know the guy. This one came in from Tricky Dickie, 1999. Oh, nice. Hey, Carl.

Are we going to get that video of the roast before or after podcast, him and gets released from prison? Before. It'll happen before. Dixbury's, I'm going to up my Patreon now worth it. $5 donation. Thank you, brother. Thank you. So that is that for this week.

Thank you guys for supporting the show. Those of you join us on Patreon and Supercast. There's a brand new episode up right now that we recorded last week. Yeah, that was a fun one. We had Brian McBride, the voice of Syracuse joining us. We watched a video that was so stunning to me. Yeah. I didn't know.

I couldn't wait to share it with you guys, but we watched a gentleman being asked to find another place to live for some very, very good reasons. Yeah. His wife was none too thrilled with what he was chatting on the internet. Chatting on the internet was the least of the problems of this scenario. But we did say that the wife gets to keep the dog. so check that out supercast Patreon to backslash the creepoff

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