The Creep Off - Episode 140: Creepsgiving III: Kevin and His Weezer Band

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

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Hey everyone, welcome to creep junkies, also known as the creep off. This is a competition where these two little stinkers try to convince you that they presented the biggest creep. What's a creep? Well, that's up to you to decide when you head over to the subreddit to vote against Carl's sock accounts. After five losses, the loser must spin the dreaded wheel of consequences, which includes funny things like losing their Patreon money. Sorry, Vinny. Or trying to watch soccer without alcohol.

Last week was... Wildcar, bitches! And I learned that this audience hates their families because it looks like the man that murdered his whole family was not as creepy as the lizard that forces you to ignore your mother every day and not just during the holidays. Anyways, that's all I got for this week. Tucker, out. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not born.

Back him down. Cuckoo! And you should have seen what he did this past Thursday on Thanksgiving. What do, Gene? He nailed a turkey from the rare. The turkey with the pecker on it. Eat us. Hey, it's Thanksgiving Day.

Eat us. We make a nice buffet. We lost the race with farmer head. Eat us because we're good and dead. Disgusting Disgusting, vomit-inducing thing. Ola creepos, welcome to your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps by creeps. For you, creeps, I'm your.

host. My name is Vinnie. And joining me in studio, it's hot cucka carla. What's happening to Vinnie Paulino? Merry Creepsgiving. Dude, it is my favorite holiday. It is my favorite time of year. It is the holiday that is centered around food, baby. Yes, it is. It is Super Chat Monday. For those of you who are watching us on YouTube, we will read your super chats at the end of the show, so make them count. Also, WATP Live.com. Tickets are not available for the DabbleCon. DabbleCon, here in beautiful here in lovely sunny Rochester, New York, February 3rd and 4th,

get all of your information and tickets at WATP Live.com. I got to tell you, folks are already grabbing those weekend passes. WATP, WATP, WATP, Live.com. What a read. What a read. It is a holiday around here.

We do creepsgiving every year, And this year, our creeps will be focused around the holiday that is Thanksgiving. It's our third annual creepsgiving special edition episode. I'm very excited for that. I love it. I did screw up here because the results are not loaded in. And I can't seem to figure out where I put them. All right.

I know what they are. We can just talk about it if you want. So last week I brought Josh Powell. Yep. I thought that was pretty creepy. Yep. But you brought Mark Zuckerberg. and, of course, overwhelming victory for Vinnie Paulino.

What I love about this in particular is that I had a really bad taste in my mouth, but now I'm off to a good start. I had to spend the wheel. You're getting my Patreon money. Yeah, for as long as you don't win around, which means we can't start voting for Vinnie now all of a sudden, people. What's going on? True believers.

Let's get things looking good for a new year. That's all I'm asking you to do. All right. Well, I'm being a whore, Carl. Yes. Can I be a whore for a second? Of course. So check this out, folks.

You know how we just did our awesome zombie shirts? I'm rocking mine today. Yeah, looking good. It's laundry day, so that's just how that worked. You know, it's not a wrestling shirt. I had a feeling. Our holiday shirt is coming out. Ooh.

One run, never making them again. Here's your chance to get your very old. Carl and Vinnie crampus Christmas shirt. Yeah, that's actually a fantastic design, I have to say. Very cool graphic. Mint salad did that? Yeah, Mint Salad did it for us. Wow.

If you do not speak Carl's native tongue of German, it says greetings from the creep off. That's right. Yep. So if you want to grab one of those, they're going to be available at htb kicksass.com later in the week, and we'll post a link once they are officially up and out there. Nice work, Mint.

That's a little different for her, that style. That's good. She did a great job on the roast posters, and I love her style. So I was like, we're going to do a crampish shirt. I got to call Mint. It'll be fun. Awesome.

So excited for that. We're going to be doing a bone. bonus episode right after this episode today, the link to the Patreon and Supercast is in the description of this video if you're watching us live in YouTube so you can follow us right over there if you're a patron. We're doing pedophile hunter theater. So you're up one nothing on this round, right? That was the first round. That's us. Yeah, so that means that he's got to get to five before I get to five and he's up one nothing. That's correct. So ladies and gentlemen, let's ring the bell and let's start the competition. All right, we've already

taken four of the creepiest Thanksgivingers. So what do we got now, Benny? I decided this year because I'm in such a good mood, even though I shouldn't be. I'm going fun. I'm going fun creep. I'm glad you're having fun because your heart isn't. Too soon. Sorry. A Minneapolis woman allegedly killed a Thanksgiving

guest on Thanksgiving at the table. Anina Maria Hare, 47 years old was charged in 2017 with the murder of Edward Califf. He was 69 years old. This was her boyfriend, Carl. She invited him over for a nice Thanksgiving dinner. Okay. Things went south pretty quick. All the food comes on the date. What did she burn? What did she burn, Vinnie? Carl. What did she fuck out? She forgot the gravy? It wasn't her. Did she forget the gravy,

Vinny? It wasn't her. It's my creep Edward. Oh, really? Okay. I thought this is story as oldest time. Now, Ania is awesome. She's making a great Thanksgiving meal for this guy. Okay. He's over there. She sets the table, puts the food on the table, they're going to sit down to eat. And what does Edward Caliph do? He starts smoking his crack pipe. Oh, not at Thanksgiving. At the table.

You do that shit in the garage and he come in. Now, obviously, Anita was not happy about this. And what upset her, explained to the police. Correct. For real? For real. What of that? Was number one that.

Don't Bogart that crack. He didn't ask if he had permission. to smoke crack at the Thanksgiving dinner table and then he refused to share his point with that. I was going to say, if the problem was it not sharing, I don't think he needs to ask permission then, if that's what the concern was.

I'm really getting sick of these selfish crackheads, Vinny. That's the one thing about all my friends who are potheads. They're very generous. They love to share. They want everyone to partake. These crackheads are like, nope, this is all mine. You get your own crap.

Carl, let's go back to the first Thanksgiving. Yeah. Everybody brings a dish to pass. That's true. That's true. And I believe the Pilgrims introduced the Native Americans to crack cocaine, which is what got them a dick and started the ghettos on the reservations. I read that, I believe.

Let's go on with it. So this guy's smoking crack in the house. Yep. Like he cracked open a bottle of wine, didn't offer anybody a glass, like kind of an asshole. Sure. She gets upset. So she rips the antenna off of their television And then grabs a butcher knife

It starts chasing Edward around the house Now, all right, back up Who has an antenna on their television? Crack heads, Carl. What year is this? What year is this? 2017, crackettes. Okay, an antenna on the television.

She grabbed what was there. Hey, good news. We get all four channels in at this house. Oh, sweet. Okay, cool. He's trying to get out of the fucking house. Can't find a way out. So he grabs her vacuum cleaner

and throws it through the window and decides to try to leave through the window and she says I don't fucking think so and according to her she put him in a sleeper hold she jumped on top of him and put him in a sleeper hold and held it until quote he started snoring okay how does she know the sleeper hole that's impressive

I wouldn't be able to do that you wouldn't know how to put somebody to sleeper hold no and I doubt you could either I bet however they do it on wrestling is probably pretty fake No, I don't have to do the real one. Okay. The key is tilting your head and so the windpipe closes. I thought the key was holding up his arm and letting it drop three times.

And then there's another crack. It's a deep key. One, two. So when the police arrived, because the neighbors did call the police because a vacuum went through the fucking window. Right. They found Kyle if lying down near the broken window. Signs of the apparent struggle. And the man died at the hospital.

in an interview with police But he was able to get in all the UHF channels So that's impressive He was able to watch the PBS telethon this year Yeah Hare said she invited Caliph over for Thanksgiving dinner Got angry during the meal Because he lit up the crack pipe

But she was upset that he did not offer to share Now She told police that he yelled for help Broke out the window with the vacuum cleaner grabbed him fell on top of him He continued to struggle And she just quote Put his ass to sleep

That was her statement to the cops to the cops. Yeah. I put his ass to sleep. Well done. This is my favorite part of this. The autopsy said the cause of death. Homicidal violence. Okay. Yeah. She was found guilty. She pled guilty of first degree manslaughter. That's it. Because apparently it's so rude to not share your crack at Thanksgiving. I don't think that's why. That even the justice system. I don't think that's why Vinny. Even the justice system isn't even bad about it. You're being silly now. No. It's just silly talk hair served about three years of her prison term and spent the rest on supervised release my creep joseph caliph for not sharing his crack pipe okay oh okay well there's a twist at the end there

can i also say i see what you did i don't like his family they were trying to make him sound like he was a saint and they they said this about him he wasn't perfect but he always made us laugh Oh, yeah, this silly crackhead uncle. Where's Uncle Cracky? He's the best. Well, he won't be with us anymore. I made horrible, horrible manners. What a creep, Carl.

Try to beat that. All right. Let's see what I can do. I am going to go with a band named Brent Springford, Jr. Now, I'm going to give credit to a guy named Bama Mike on YouTube and the Oxygen Network for the information that I have obtained today. On Friday, November 26, 2004, Brent and Charlotte Springford were found brutally slain in their mansion in the wealthy garden district of Montgomery, Alabama. What happened was the Friday after Thanksgiving, construction workers were at their home because rich people always have projects going on. They don't give a four-day weekend ever.

So the construction workers are all there. They have the key codes. They can get into the house. They walk in, and it looks like the place has been robbed. everything's torn apart downstairs there's just papers everywhere boxes are torn apart so they're like oh what the hell happened here

so they start to walk upstairs and that's when they see the trail of blood turn around get the fuck out of there call 911 this was a really a gruesome gruesome crime scene so

they're trying to figure out who would do such a thing because the mother and father went to the daughter's house who lives about an hour away in Alabama for lunch on things Thanksgiving Day, they come back that day, later that day, they're found dead the next morning and they don't know who did it.

They have an alarm system, obviously, but somebody had broken in on the upstairs window where there was no detection for the alarm system. So someone had to know that in order to get into the house without the alarm system going off. All right. So people start suspecting this guy, Brent Springford Jr. Now, Brent is the son of these two. Brent and Charlotte Springford

And he's a 24-year-old guy He actually moved out to Colorado He's in Boulder, Colorado He was These are very rich people So they have their own jet and stuff So for a long time He's just trying to find himself

He's traveling the world He's doing different things And he finally decided to settle down in Colorado And his parents gave him a pretty sweet deal for that They bought him a house in Boulder They paid for Brent To live a very lavish lifestyle

all up there. They bought him two brand new cars. They paid 100% of all his credit card balances. And they gave him an additional monthly allowance of nearly $1,000. Pretty sweet deal, huh? Who's reading

that? A South Park character? That would be Bama Mike. Who's reading that from his YouTube channel? That checks out. All right. So, let's hear more about from Bama Mike here. So apparently, Brent started getting a little bit weird. And they discovered this when they had Brent over to the house. Now remember,

they're in Alabama. He has to fly in from Colorado. And they have this annual black tie event at the house that the whole family comes to. By Christmas of that year, the Springford's annual black tie holiday gathering, which took place right here inside of their house. He showed up with a newly, completely bald, shaven head. And he was wearing a monk's robe. He also spoke in a very strange manner after he left that black tie holiday event. His parents are mortified. They were absolutely mortified.

They spent the next several months trying to convince Brent Jr. to seek psychiatric help. So they're trying to get this guy some help. They realize, okay, he's a, uh, you know, a few cranes short. You want to be a monk now?

What did he show up like that? That's just his that hasn't been explained quite yet here, Vinny. No one's really sure what's going on with this guy. So then he decides to stop talking to his parents altogether. He gets married to a woman twice his age. So Carolyn Stout. He is crazy. Yes, Carolyn Stout and him get married.

She's 48. He's 24. The parents didn't even know about this. And then when they find out about it, at first, they're like, good. She can take care of them. She can figure this shit out. Maybe she has insurance. He could get out and get off of ours.

Right. But they're still wary of. him and tell him, okay, your sister's getting married. We don't watch you there. As some more time passed and we come around to October, they told Brent Jr. not to come home for his sister's wedding because of his erratic behavior. They couldn't trust him to come in, behave and act like a normal human being. What do you mean?

I had a brand new Pope outfit I was going to wear. Yeah, right. Oh, man. What the fuck? So now this is not going over well with our buddy Brent being told. he can't go to his sister's wedding and then it gets worse. I mean, that completely enraged Brandt, Jr., and put him in a panic. And then right after that, Brent, Sr. and Charlotte would go on to do something that would set events in motion that would ultimately cost them their lives.

They cut him off from all their money. Rout row, he's no longer getting that allowance anymore. The house isn't being paid for. This seems really harsh because all he did was be upset that he can't go to his sister's wedding. Right, exactly. What's so wrong about that? He just wants to be part of the family. Yeah, it's a nice family event.

He wants to be there. So what if he's a weirdo? I would be very upset. I'd be like, you guys think I'm going to this? Well, there's one thing I know about rich people is that they have to keep up appearances. And so if one of your kids is a nutso, you try to, like, keep up as far away from everyone else as possible. You call them, you, I've seen black sheep, I know. You call them unique and you get them.

reality show. That's how this works that. Or you could do that. Right. People in Alabama don't think that way, but I hear what you're saying. So, as I mentioned, they go to the daughter's house. They're coming back around 6 p.m. on Thanksgiving night. And this is always fun when you walk back into your house and you see your son who you don't want any part of anymore sitting at the dining room table. Several hours later, at about 6 p.m. that evening, Brant Sr. in Charlotte arrived home to find their son Brent Jr. sitting in their living room waiting for them

with an axe handle right beside him. Ro Ro, Ro! Mother, father. Soinks! All right, so he decides to beat the shit out of them. Brent, Springford, Jr.

had beaten them to death with that axe handle. They were making funny noises gasping for air. So he would go on to slit their throats to the point of nearly decapitating them so that he didn't have to hear them make those noises anymore. So he pretty much cuts their heads off.

This is a very gruesome scene. What were the funny noises that were bothering him? They're not. I might have been a little bit of that too. Waka Waka. So, yeah, so he nearly cut their heads off. This is why these detectives were pretty grossed out when they got to this crime scene.

It's pretty fucking brutal. So what happened was they were going to cut them off and Carolyn well they discovered that this woman that he had married was just in it for the money

this Carolyn stout woman so they're actually quite concerned about her so like she was at the house and he comes home and his fire tuck outfit and goes I'm cut off and so she rips off her non outfit

is like I'm out of here pretty much pretty much yes But what they began to learn is that she was actually taking advantage of the Springfords financially and was not taking care of Brent Springford. And that caused a lot of tension in the relationship. The father was done with her and was really done with his son and had told him that he was going to be cut out of the will. And we believe that is when things started to unravel.

Yeah, don't tell your spoiled brat kid they're cut out of the will. They're going to be pissed off about that. So he finally confesses because he had tried to cover his tracks. He took buses to Alabama to commit the murders. Then he drove his dad's expensive car to a train station to get back. So they eventually figured all of this out. Well, no one will figure out who did it if the car is at the train station. Right.

They threatened to arrest his wife, Carolyn's scout, as an accomplice. and Brent Jr. confessed to brutally killing his parents. He even went on to claim that a demonic spirit named Akasha had ordered him to do it. I mean, that sounds fair. Carl, do you know what happens if they say to me, we're going to arrest your wife as an accessory? My response is accessory, she did it. Right, no shit.

It was her. I wasn't even there. It was her. She had an axe handle. She didn't like the funny noises. Well, what's so interesting about this, is that once he admitted to the murders, his wife Carolyn wanted nothing to do with him.

She only sent him one piece of correspondence after that. Only one time she even tried to communicate with him. It was a note, it was a letter with one sentence that just said, if you get the death penalty, I'll support you. And what's interesting is this guy, what's his name again? Bama Mike? Bama Mike looked into this woman, Carolyn, and apparently she had had.

had an ex-husband who she killed, but she wasn't convicted because she said it was self-defense. Now, he also had come from a wealthy family. So she, it seems like she might be manipulating these guys, and she would have put him up for it. But either way, she's free, and this, this poor, this poor guy bred Springford, all he did was turn his parents into human pet dispensers. He gets life in prison, but it didn't turn out to be. that long. In 2013, Brent Springford Jr. committed suicide somehow by

taking a toxic dose of Tylenol. The state of Alabama hasn't released how he got a hold of the Tylenol that he took, but he took a lethal dose of Tylenol, overdosing on it and dying. How many fucking bottles of Tylenol is that?

How is that possible? How can you OD on Tylenol? I'll talk to Dr. Steve about that. I bet you his belly hurt on the way out. Yeah, right? Oh, shit. So somehow while he's in prison, he's able to get enough Tylenol to kill himself.

So that's the end of that story. But that was some Thanksgiving meal with Brent Springford, Jr., murdering his wealthy parents. Okay, so he murdered a couple of rich people. Yes. His wife left him, and she may have been waiting to murder him too.

I don't know. Seems like this guy's a victim. My guy's a real creep. Made this poor woman spend three years in prison because he wouldn't share his crack. Oh, we're back to doing this again now where you make your argument, I make my argument, and then you go on your argument again? Well, haven't you always seen it?

You always get the last word in, don't you? Haven't you ever been to a court? Everybody gets a closing argument. Oh, okay. Apparently, except for Vinnie. Oh, okay, all right. Vinnie can't have due process on the creep on. I see how this is.

All right. Vinnie couldn't even pick which person was the creep. I did too. So I'm not sure that he's the person. All right, Dickhead. Are you ready to do some who are these creepos? mini yes it's time for creepos

this is a new segment on the creepoff and the reason why we do this segment is to prove once and for all that the creepoff is the best true crime podcast on the internet today the way that we do that is by being very petty and by analyzing all the other true crime podcast

one at a time to show you the fine folks who enjoy the creepoff the Cuzz of the Vinnie's creepaholics, whatever your guys are. True believers. Whatever that is. Oh, you're not even to acknowledge the true believers. Whatever that is.

The creepomaniacs, scum parade, merry marchers. We want to show all of those people. They have chosen the right true crime podcast. And today, I am going to review a show called True Crime Garage. Are you familiar with this show, Vinnie Paulino? You know that I'm not, Carl. Well, it's a pretty popular one. That's why I ask.

I don't listen to true crime shows. All right. Well, let's check out how this one starts off. Except for Nancy Grace. True crime garage, I will tell you, is not hosted by one woman. It's not hosted by two women. It's hosted by two men. That's right.

Nick and the captain. Invite you to grab a chair, grab a beer, and join them as they talk some true crime. This is how things start off, Vinnie. Thanks for listening. Thanks for telling a friend. This week, we are very excited to be featuring Eternal Autumn, brewed by the great women and men over at Track 7 Brewing Company. This is a West Coast-style India Pale Ale featuring HBC 586, Idaho 7, and Mosaic Hops.

Who fucking cares? Is this Opie's new show at Gepardt? Even the guys are doing this. They're pairing true crime with alcohol. With these guys, it's always beer for some reason. So it's like, hey, we're going to talk about true crime, but also check out this beer we got. He goes on to explain everything about the beer and how great the beer is.

Benny, what's going on here? What is it with the true crime and drinking? Why is that connected? I cannot figure it out. I thought it was a lady thing. I thought it was the wine thing. I was just about to say, I feel like this is a very woman type approach to this. Yes.

It's like looking at exactly what type of true crime shows are popular and then trying to play off of the, but we're dudes. I will say this. One thing I'll give them is when the women talk about the wine they're drinking, they go on and on about the label and the colors and all this nonsense. Oh, there's notes of pine, you know, like whatever the fuck they're trying to say about this shit that I don't care about. These guys get right to it. And actually, this guy, Nick, sounds like a professional broadcaster. He sounds like he might have a radio background. And you are going to want to try this one because here we go, Captain.

I'm going to do it. Eternal Autumn, five out of five bottle caps. Boom. Get you some. And in the garage, it's always a great autumn because of all of you out there in listener land. So let's give some thanks and praise. You out there in listener land.

Wow, this is old-timey radio talk going on right here. Well, all of you folks that are watching us in Streamerton, I hope to enjoy the show. Yeah, middle streamer, Brooke, listener land. All the people, listen around, and then they give some shoutouts. Streamfield. And then they have to go, yeah. And then they have to go through and they have to do their roll call thing.

So they explain, all right, these are the people who are contributing to us or paying our beer fund is what they say. And they call out the people's names. And this is a true crime show? This is a true crime show, Betty. I will give them credit, though. They get into the intro of their show. So after they give the shoutouts, they go into their social media stuff and then they get right into the intro of the show. Yeah, BWRUN beer run.

If you're not following us on social media, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, then you're missing out on the true crime conversations. Make sure you follow us there at True Crime Garage. Colonel, that's enough of the business. All right, everybody, gather around, grab a chair. Grab a beer. Let's talk some true crime. I'll give them this. That's two and a half minutes into the episode.

They do get right to it. They don't drag it out. Like, I've heard so many other shows. We're in a minute 12, minute 14. They're still talking about wine and the shoes they bought at the mall. Shut the fuck up. I get to the story already. Oh, so you mean that the guys got to the point before the women shows usually do?

Yes. Check. Okay. Yeah, so that's something that maybe some of these ladies could take some notes on. By the way, this whole thing where I want to follow them on social media to be part of the conversation about true crime hard pass You don't even want to conversate about true crime

with me on this show Right, I do this for a living I don't want to do it I do it under protest I'm not going to get on their Instagram account and start messaging them All right

So then let's get into the fucking good stuff Let's see what's going on I want some panty dampening murder porn Let's go Tracy was found Having been attacked And beaten to death

Inside her apartment That she shared with her 18-month old daughter. Nice. Tracy and her ex-husband shared custody of the little girl. Are you moist yet or what, Vinny? This is what we tune in for on these true crime shows. Just under the arms.

I believe that. Carl. That story checks out. The guy, the captain, does he talk at all? Because he's only said like two words of this whole thing. All right. Brilliant observation, Vinny, because I'm not sure why this guy exists at all. And I will...

I'll show you some of the drop-ins that he does. Okay. Here's one of the ones that they're telling the story about this Tracy Harkness. But after the sun goes down, if we are talking about 9 or 10 o'clock at night, it turns to a ghost town rather quickly. Pretty standard Midwestern town. Late at night, you're going to get a few people out, really hardly any cars out on the street. Dynamite drop in, Monty.

That broadcast school has really paid off. Dude, the captain has one line per page. on this script that they're reading and they just let him say something randomly and it's like all right you're part of the show good job buddy i i can't imagine what he would be like if there wasn't a script oh dude this show is bizarre sounding because as i said it is very professional but it's also dry as hell they just read it very straight yeah who wants to listen to true crime for people could hold their alcohol right what's the point of that get wasted fellas you got 6.4 abv in that IPA let's go So, Vinnie, I listened to the first part of Tracy Harkness. There are four parts to this, totaling three and a half hours. This is a woman who was killed in her apartment, and it was 30 years ago. They still don't know who did it. And I got to listen to three and a half hours of this.

There's so many details that they get into. It's too much. Steve told investigators that Lori knocked on the back door of the apartment but got no answer. They went to the back door because that was the door Tracy and pretty much everyone else used. This portion of the apartment complex was built in a U-shape around a rear parking lot where the residents had spaces to park their cars. As a result, most residents didn't use their front doors other than to get their mail or the newspaper. Tracy was no exception. Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring. Dude, like literally,

All they're explaining is the people who found her body couldn't get in the door they normally go in so they walked around in the front and walked in and found her body. But he has to explain because of the way this is set up and, you know, she does get the newspaper, she will go to the door for the newspaper, but only on the weekends. And then they go, it's like, shut the fuck.

This is why it's three and a half hours long. Normally on Thursdays the neighbor brings out the garbage through the side door. Right. This is why it's three and a half hours long. And I guarantee they're making most of the shit up because this happened 30 years ago and who could possibly care about these details. This is a time filler. I love how the people go on forever with these cases that even the cops don't care about.

Right. Even the cops, if you were telling them all this information, you'd be like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you found the body? And then what happened then? Let's get right to that part of it. And that is a big part of this, because, like, if you ever watch the way cops, like, have to sit there and listen to people try to tell them what happened. Yeah. Well, and then my boyfriend, Frank, well, we're on and off again.

Actually, I'm not with Frank right now. I'm mad of Frank. But I might get back together with him. He's in the doghouse. Ma'am, whatever. You and Frank did what? What happened? Oh, he shot me in the shoulder.

I don't know why I turned to the Nancy Grace. I'll bleed it everywhere. All right. So let's get into, so we heard that they start the show off after they talk about their social media and becoming a part of social media and giving the money and all that stuff. So, all right, let's start the show, guys. The bowling family wants the killer to be caught for the sake of Tracy's now grown. daughter. Tracy's family and the Grove City Police Department are hoping that new technology and DNA testing will lead to an arrest. Well, hold on a second. The family wants the murderer

to be caught for the sake of the daughter who never knew her mom. The daughter was under two years old. So now she's 31 years old and she's worried about this. She's like, I didn't even know that bitch. What the fuck do I care? I didn't grow up with her. You guys don't know who knew her. But did I tell you We have forever Hambur Autumn logger He's like what the show cares

These people suck All right So I want to ask you this Vinny Has this ever worked once In the history of trying to solve a cold case Tracy's family

Has something to say To the killer If you did this Get it off your conscience And go tell If Tracy's family wants this killer brought to justice If you know Who killed Tracy Renee Harkness

Call the Grove City Police Department You can imagine you get away with murder It's been 30 years They don't know who you are They're off your set and you're like You probably feel pretty bad about this right Like no I can't believe I'm going to weigh with it What do you think I'm to tell on myself? That's insane

You know what that plea is called The fucking Hail Mary Yes Of fucking true crime Dude, this show starts with the Hail Mary. It starts with that. Oh, God. So bad.

I bet you feel pretty bad about it, don't you? I bet you're not real happy with yourself. Maybe you want to get that off your chest. Listen, in the weeks immediately afterwards, I was paranoid about getting caught. I felt really bad about what I had done. 30 years have gone by. Eight years after that, I met a nice lady. Yeah.

I have a family. Oh, I started sleeping great two months later. Are you kidding me? You think I'm worried about it now 30 years later? Oh, her daughter? she didn't even know her right she's doing great so what's the difference so you heard

what I was just explaining here they do that little intro thing they talk about the beer they're drinking they talk about social media they get props and roll calls people who are giving the money then we do a little thing so this is what happens to go into the show all right everybody gather around grab a chair

grab a beer let's talk some true crime Okay, so... This true crime is brought to you by Syracuse. I know it sounded like that. So that's the start of the show, and then they go in and they say, hey, if you know anything about this case, turn yourself in. And then this happens.

This is the still unsolved homicide case of Tracy Harkness, 30 years later. And this is True Crime Garage. What an interesting choice for music. Is this Patrick Michael? They're starting again again to start. What are you doing? How many times are you going to tease? You're going to do a podcast.

Let's go. I'm listening to a podcast. Start the podcast. I like how they started off with the plea. And then they were like immediately, the still unsolved murder because it obviously didn't work. Yeah. No shit.

All right. So the amount of talking that the captain does is interesting to me. I wonder if maybe we should start decreasing your workload a little bit. Her recent employer said she was friendly and easy to work with, but she spent a lot of time on the phone on personal calls. When she died, she was working at a new job as a secretary. She also had a part-time job a few nights a week helping out at a friend's jewelry business. So she definitely had a full plate.

Tracy was a longtime member of the Grace Memorial Church. She had this job. She did this other thing. So she had a full plate. I've never been accused of having a full plate. But, Carl. Not before you sit back down again. I like to think that this guy is just like a war veteran who's a paraplegic in a wheelchair.

That's about all they could get out of him. Dude, I would love if you talk to that little. This show would be so much better if you could just learn what the captain. Get the captain's role going on here. Host Nick and the captain of waiting to grab a chair, grab a beer and join them as he talks from true crime. This is no ordinary garage. It's a rabbit hole of true crime with a generous supply of alcohol and banter to whiten the load. What the fuck does that even mean?

Hold on. Let me read that again. This is the second sentence of the description of this show. This is no ordinary garage. It's a rabbit hole of true crime with a generous supply of alcohol and banter to whiten the load. I don't think they understand what a rabbit hole is. I don't think they understand what a load is. Oh, they know what a load is.

It's all right. The Kansas got the banter now. I'll give him that. From international atrocities to heinous stories on home turf, dive headfirst new a different case each week and enjoyed a cold one. Will stew there. Hold on a second. A dive in a new different case each week. I told you this one goes over four fucking weeks, just this one case.

Like wrap it up in one week and I will. That's fine. Are you saying that these folks don't know what they're talking about in their own description of their show? If you consider yourself an armchair detective, you're in the wrong. right place and you're amongst friends for the mystery seeker true crime garage presents an archive of missing persons unsolved in cold cases plus accounts of infamous serial killers and chilling solved cases ooh chilling solved cases i always am more chilled when i found out who did it and why what's the difference between an unsolved and a cold case isn't that the same thing well both

unsolved and cold cases that is correct same thing i mean i guess it's length of time, I guess, that went by. True crime garage is just one rule. Don't litter. Remember to not take yourself too seriously, because if you do, nobody else will. What? That came out of fucking nowhere. I despise this description.

What was the point of that? This description's all over the place. Why are they trying to be so foxy and quaint when they're discussing grisly murder? I don't know. You don't need words like amongst friends. It's just, no one talks like that. And what it was in line and have a beer with us. Yeah, yeah. Grab a chair, grab a beer, and join them as they talk some true crime.

Is there something about a cold one or something? I don't know. Well, well,ster there. Grab yourself a cold run, welster there. I mean, why not just be honest with you? This podcast isn't great. You might want to get drunk first. You might enjoy it better. Like, we've said this many times in the isotopes. The drunken you get, the better we sound. I think that's what these guys are trying to say is like, yeah, you might want to crack open a six-pack and then turn this on. Yeah. I feel like this is like my grandfather trying to explain. anything serious to me when I was a kid. He'd sit down and like, all right, we're going to explain this.

Yeah. Cracks the beer. We'll get through this together. Now, this is what calories do to your body, Vincent. And you're like, I don't want to hear about this. I'm not listening. La, la, la, la. Is it dinner time?

All right, here's the last clip that I have. This is just some editorializing from the captain that I personally found unnecessary, but I'll let you decide. I'll let you judge for yourself here, buddy. according to Tracy's friends she and her ex-husband got along very well and spoke almost daily

this because they shared custody of little Megan Well in a perfect world all people that shared kids together would have a healthy relationship for their kids You don't say Thanks Captain

Thanks Captain You know in a perfect world If you have joined custody You get along with each other Yeah, in a perfect world. Thanks, Captain. In a perfect world, most people would have pulled out. Yeah, correct.

All right, Vinny, that's what I have for us. True Crime Garage, which is a very big show. It's so dry and so boring. These guys do not have any personality whatsoever. It sounds like an AM radio host from yesteryear. You know what I find? Talking to Listenerland. I find insufferable these shows where they're these bores.

Like, we're having a beer, so we're cool and hip. Boring people drink beer, too. Yes, a lot of them. And I apologize for being so boring. I won't apologize for my beer drinking. Guess what time it is? What time is it, buddy? It's time for some voicemails.

Let's go. Creep-off voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse. The S.U basketball team just lost to Colgate University. The opponent was able to exploit Syracuse's main weakness, fear of dental hygiene. See you in Syracuse. I'm not going to lie I saw that one coming Not going to lie

All right Could have used some cavity creeps or something too But wouldn't have been better Here's our first voicemail From our pal DP Hey guys, it's DP A Consequence IDF is a

bonus episode But it's got to be 60 minutes long All the Patreon is going to submit one idea per uh per patron subscription the winner picks their favorite five everybody votes on it and the loser has to do a one hour bonus episode based on the the most popular idea anyhow hopefully that'll get you a couple extra bucks it'll get me 60 minutes of entertainment thank you fuck you bye okay so what i might suggest we could do there is maybe add that type of voting system to the uh yeah we already have i have to produce a podcast yeah podcast stream but maybe

we let the listeners pick the okay i like that okay that sounds good uh this isn't a wonderful compliment i feel okay vennie you and carl are like the most fucked up laurel and hearty of podcasting and i love every fucked up second of it thanks guys oh you're welcome he called back though just to make sure that is a deep pull right there Holy shit. Hey, Vinny, it's animal good. Just to be clear, you're the fat one in Laurel, Hartley. So you're the funny one, at least.

Correct. Oliver Hardy was his name. All right, again, another one here. You know, boys, not for nothing, but I'm just saying that who are these creepos drop that you do for the beginning? Could use a little bit more production, you know? Something like a, who are these creepos? W-A-T-C, who raped this child that would be on me.

You know, something like that. Just come on, man. Put in just a little bit more effort, and I think the show will be a lot better, you know. Thank you, fuck you, bye. Did you know long I spent editing this together? Creepos. About as long as that took to play.

Can I also just add, this show would be fantastic if Carl and I put it just a little. a bit more effort. It wouldn't be a bad idea. Yeah. It would be the most fantastic show on the internet. Yeah. If I didn't wake up Mondays at 12.30 going, oh, shit, I had to put together stuff for the

creep off today. Might be good. All right. So let's, do you any voicemails girl? I don't. Okay. Well, moving on to a scum parade. Let's, uh, hit the music.

Scum parade, take me on a raid of these fucks your raids that these creeps have made. Scum parade. Vinny and Carl going to tell you about some fuck shit Scum parade Like stories of a kid Fucked by his mom or dad Soaking up the blood of a cat scum parade A 22 year old Manassas Parkman

Has been jailed without bond After police say he cooked himself Stolen food at a pizza hut While threatening employees with the knife He brought a knife into a kitchen. That's really done. Watch out. I got a can opener in here as well.

Watch out everybody. It's like, yeah. No, we already have those things, sir. You think one of those $15 an hour minimum wage people was going to pull another knife off of the metal thing on the wall that's not fighting him? One of those pizza cutters, those spinning knives, like, huh? You get out of here, you? Holy shit.

This happened around 11 p.m. Saturday, November 12th. The suspect walked into the store past the service counter towards the kitchen area. while in the kitchen, he retrieved food items from the freezer and began cooking them before lifting up his shirt and revealing a knife to an employee. Yeah, you think he didn't stop me from me to these mott sticks? Think again, asshole. He's just fucking tossing him at the basket of the fryer. Now, the police said he then took the food and left the business.

So he just came in and did his own takeout order. I don't see the problem. Yeah, right, exactly. An employee attempted to confront him in the parking lot and the suspect brandished the knife. You're going to share those mott sticks. Get out of here. Not sharing my mottsticks. A police canine and helicopter assistant from Fairfax County police searched the area for the suspect that night.

A helicopter, Vinny, for a guy who cooked his own food at Pizza Hut. That seems like overkill to me. So it is overkill, and here's why. I'm just picturing Henry Hill trying to eat the mottsticks as fast as possible burning his tongue. Oh, shit. fucking rolling stones are playing i'm a monkey man a police canine helicopter assistance is out there looking for him but they couldn't find him right turns out one of the employees knew the guy so they're fucking flying a chop around the guy knew his name and where he lived

yeah he's like oh that's david he lives over there yeah uh at that apartment complex he was arrested the next day he's being held without bond and uh on a robbery charge can i offer us suggestion. If you're going to do this, pick a restaurant where your buddy doesn't work. Try not to have any friends who can identify you very easily. Also, pick a restaurant other than pizza hot. You couldn't go into a Taco Bell and make yourself some tacos? Come on. That's just Knifey David. Knifey David loves Mottsticks. Jesus Christ. Memphis, Tennessee, Carl.

Yeah. This story's great. I'm really thankful. You and I really did a couple of smart things in life. Oh. Pass the show. Interesting. We're both married with no kids. Well, that's true. We don't deal with dating. Yeah. We both married great women. We both. We couldn't have done this better. My girlfriend's hot too, yeah. Yeah, your girlfriend's a real whore. A Memphis woman says she met a man on Tinder. Okay. And it didn't go well. No? Because he carjacked her at gunpoint. The incident happened nearly a year ago. Elijah. Are we still going to fuck or how you see you mad at me now? It's like I thought girls like bad boys. well, I swiped right. Get the fuck out of the car, bitch. Yeah. Darius Scott was booked in Shelby County Jail Tuesday in a charge of carjacking and aggravated robbery

and employment of a firearm during a dangerous felony. The victim told police she met him on Tinder. They agreed to meet. She said when she got there, Scott got into the passenger seat of her car, put a gun to her side, demanded her phone and money, and threatened to shoot her. The victim told police she panicked, jumped out of the car, and that's when Scott drove off at her 2007 Kia Rondo.

Oh, my God. She, listen, man, if you put a gun on me and told me to take a Kia Rondo. Right. I would put up more of a fight that this woman did. Well, she also left behind an iPhone in 50 bucks. I mean, you'd be better off robbing Chad Zumach with the fucking bounty this guy is getting. Yeah. I mean, there wouldn't be the 50 bucks, but he probably would have some lady's purse.

Those credit cards. The victim reported the crime. I'm sorry. I just got, sorry here. The victim reported the crime. Police department said about five hours later, Scott sent her a text message. Oh, boy.

Offering to sell her the car back. All right. So committing crimes via text to the victim. This might be the dumbest thing. And we've been doing this show for a while now. This might be the dumbest crime ever. Technically, it's targeted marketing because he did no shit into the car. Holy shit.

What an idiot. Wow. So Scott was among four people accused of ransacking a woman's condo in southeast Memphis and stealing $60,000 worth of items in July of 2021. Oh, so he's a piece of shit. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No kidding. The others and the other stole. Let him's in the house next door to the victim. He was charged with aggravated robbery at theft, but the charges later dropped. He's now currently being held on $260,000 bond. This is why I don't use Tinder. I'm just, I'm a grinder guy because I just trust the people out there.

They seem like good people. all right carl no shave in your game what's going to happen with that audio a pennsylvania man who murdered his elderly mother and documented the killing has been sentenced to at least 20 years in prison despite his own family wishing a harsher penalty sure families always do yeah we'll find out today the bonus episode that that's not always true families tend to be families a lot of times tend to side with pieces of shit. Well, wait a shit on my point then, many thanks. Yeah, no problem.

I just wanted to plug the show later and make you look dumb. David Subney received the sentence on a single third-degree murder charge in connection to the death of a 67-year-old mother Margaret Sumney. David was accused of torturing his mother before murdering her in the bathroom. Now, he documented the ordeal taking 277 photos that included several selfies with blood on his face and Margaret's body. Ah, the selfie stick killer, they call him. Yes.

What a fucking SSK. Watch out for SSK. He's got his selfie stick. He knows how to use it. He did end up apologizing in court. He said, well, that's good, at least. He says, I don't know what got into me, you guys. By the way, I get this.

Social media is dangerous. I'm up here. I want to get the best pictures for my Insta. No, I get this. Nobody else had any pictures with their dead mother up. I guarantee this woman posted so many embarrassing pictures of him on Facebook that it was time for revenge. because I've seen this, even people in my family have to post every photo of their kids growing up

and a lot of them are embarrassing and they don't need them on the internet. So this guy's just like, oh yeah, Bob, you think it's funny? You think that was a really cute picture when I was getting toilet trained? I got a funny picture I can take too. I got to go hang out with your parents one day. I got to see what the scrapbook,

the hamburger family scrapbook looks like, here's Carl and a papoose at the zoo. Here's us playing putt pot with Carl's feet. Here's all of us running a marathon. And Carl's sitting over there. Here's his prop picture. He's sitting sadly outside of the gymnasium. His date didn't show up.

We told him he had a date. We made a date. a name. We put Cranth in a dress, said him. It's okay, little brother. I'll be your time. You're having way too much fun with this. Do you need a minute? You're over to play some, uh, some music or something. Who's that old guy over there? You need a second to recover on this one. Hey, Carl. Yeah, buddy. I just want you to know. can i can i can i can i tell you something as a friend no can i tell you something as a friend you're the shits you're really you're just the worst i cannot believe he said i would let

myself get in such a day where i could do something so bad so horrible i cannot believe what i did that i killed my own mother i can't stop thinking about it i think about it every day well i would hope so the reason why he's in prison he sees the picture on his instagram yeah but when if the reason why you weren't able to do the things the things you wanted to do the thing that took away all of your freedom in life you'd probably think about that every day you know when you're just like why am i not doing what i want to be doing oh that's right uh killing mom it's almost like chill is a punishment yeah that's all that that time i killed mom that's why i can't do what i want to do i like every day i think about those i like i was always like he's expressed

remorse yeah now ellen david's half-sister called the claims ridiculous Prior to Margaret's murder, David was accused of torturing his ex-girlfriend at a hotel in New Jersey. He also led to his- What was he playing her wean? You're going to love the malice. Let's listen to it twice. This is my friend Carl's Weezer cover band. He thinks he's Rivers Cuomo. Watch out. Kevin in his Weezer band.

Can I get a really cool rock and roll concert t-shirt of Kevin and his Weezer band? That's pretty funny. I would like to see that. I like to see that. those photoshopps. I also want to see the Laurel and Hardy photo shots. That's funny too. Yeah. Prior to Margaret's murder, David accused of tortured his ex-girlfriend, like I said. So this guy's got a fucking problem. He also attacked both of his parents in the past. David got sentenced to a minimum with 20 years and a maximum of 40 years in prison over the mother's

death. Now, Margaret, the older sister, wish for David to have received the death penalty. Here's the quote from her. You broke her back. You paralyzed our mother. Then you just beat her and beat her. The blood was splattered all along the walls. But I think the sickest part is the pictures. 277 pictures. Well, it would have been more, but he didn't want to spring for the 256 gig iPhone. So he just ran out of storage space.

You don't. She goes, she makes a good point. You only take pictures if you want to go back and remember something and see what you did. Or if you want to show off to your friends. Minnie, how many times do you take a photo just to show your friends all the cool shit you're up to on? All the time. Exactly. All the time.

That's why you do it. Now, his case is basically over in Pennsylvania, but he still has to go to Atlantic City, New Jersey, over the alleged torture of his ex-girlfriend. So he's going to spend a long time in prison. Not long enough, according to the family. Yes. Carl, I got a fun story to finish up with. You sure do, Betty. A 20-year-old man has been charged with an attempted murder of his sister with the intention of having sex with her corpse.

the Israel police set on Sunday. So I understand like parents will have two children very close together in age. Yeah. So they can be friends growing up. Yeah. Not friends with benefits. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

That's how that works. Well, it does work that way. Haven't you ever been on Pornhub? Isn't that pretty much all everything is that? Good point. Good point. Now, the 18-year-old victim was moderately injured in the stabbing following a police investigation. Her brother was arrested in charge with attempted murder.

Now, the victim said that her brother, quote, entered my room at night. suddenly pulled on a knife and started to stab me in the head. Or as he calls it, foreplay. Oh! I ran out of the room. Yeah. Oh, you're getting real wet now. If not, he would have killed me.

I don't know what happened to him. The woman said she was nearly murdered by the would-be necrophile. Police claimed that the motive for the attempted murder was the defendants wished to have sex with his sister's corpse. I will say the incestual necrophilies. is definitely upping the ante with this one. That's impressive, my friend. If you can't keep it in your pants, keep it in your dead sister, am I right?

The defendant said it is interrogation, that he is a fan of necrophilia, and that is why he planned to kill the sister. You idiots? This is all a big misunderstanding. You guys ever, you guys ever check out of these necrophilia movies? I'm kind of an enthusiast.

Yeah, but you don't say that. You say sleepwalking. Sleepwalking. You don't say, Yeah, well, I've been to, like, fucking dead people, so idiot. Well, the joke's on her because necrophilia is technically not a criminal offense in Israel. And that's the way the news goes. Due to his condition, he's been hospitalized in a psychiatric hospital since his arrest.

If you think about it, there's no victim, right? Well, she was stabbed in the head multiple times. No, that's illegal in Israel. That part's illegal. But fucking a dead person is not because there is no victim. According to the High Court, Justice of Ruling from 2018, a judge said that sexual offense could only be applicable when the victim is a living person.

Right, because what are you going to do, give him an STI? What do they care at that point? Oh, no, I have monkeypox. Yeah, but I also died 24 hours ago, so it's fine. You know, this makes the antiquities world a little more interesting. It does. Just say it. In Israel, go out there and fuck whatever you find in the desert.

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We can do it whatever the fuck we want. In fact, if I didn't show up today, whatever. But he doesn't still do a show together. It's fine. Yeah. I'm not going to get written up for it. I'm not going to get a pig slip. Yeah, the only thing he's going to get is me teasing him on the internet. Which I get anyway.

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