The Creep Off - Episode 143: He Sees You When You’re Sleeping

Episode Date: December 12, 2022

This week Karl and Vinnie determine who is the creepiest Mall Santa of all time: In WATC we finally learn "Why We Drink": In the Scum Parade we meet a bad friend, and we learn that Florida is... not a great place to be if you are a dog. Florida woman arrested after cops find bug infestation, feces, trash, 300 loose rodents, child in her home (yahoo.com)Sheriff: Joke lands Hernando County man in jail on child porn charges (mysuncoast.com)Man arrested after having sex with neighbor’s dog and wreaking havoc in Clearwater neighborhood - IONTBFlorida man breaks into home, kills family puppy: cops (nypost.com)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everyone, welcome to the biggest competition in the world right now. The creep off. The premise is simple. These guys each bring in a creep, and then you head over to the subreddit and vote for the person whose zodiac sign best match is yours. I mean, like I would ever vote for a Leo. After five wins, the winner makes the loser spend the dreaded wheel of consequences, which includes funny consequences such as watching porn in public, or having your janitorial remove so you can steal luggage from airports.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Anyways, last week we talked about some sport called soccer. Vinnie's creep believed in a woman's right to an abortion, even if he had to force her to have one. Whereas Carl's creep decided he was going to do something about the Zionist-controlled Belgians and their stupid-ass waffles by becoming a freedom fighter. Anyways, that's all I got for this week. Tucker, out. Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't any of these type of thing. I'm going to give the people what they want, sensation, horror, shock.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I'm going to deliver the goods, because I'm alive, and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo. Santa Claus is coming. Disgusting, vomit-inducing thing. Ola Creepos, welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps, by creeps, for you, creeps. I'm your host. My name is The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour.
Starting point is 00:01:53 The people's champion. And joining me in studio, as always, it's Stupid Carl. Hey, what is happening? Vinnie Paul Alito. Good to see you, my friend. Good afternoon, stupid Carl. Glad to have you back with us. Thanks for having me once again. I got to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:02:09 You and I got to have a chat about something. Okay. Let's talk about Saturday. All right. Saturday, Vinny was kind enough last minute to dress up as Santa Claus for the Iceyxon's Christmas show because our friend, our mutual friend, Mark Epilito, backed out like a bitch. Let me tell you about my day Saturday, Carl. All right. I had to go to a funeral Saturday
Starting point is 00:02:31 I know that I'm sorry yep yep right before right before I had to go play Santa Claus for the isotopes I wasn't feeling very jolly You didn't seem real festive when I first showed up to the club A few shots in Okay I was feeling pretty jolly and Mary
Starting point is 00:02:45 And I was really thankful for the opportunity to play Santa You did a great job And I gotta tell you something I don't know if you're pregnant or not I was thankful for that but I was thankful for that Yeah But someone sent me a text message
Starting point is 00:02:56 that they had a conversation with someone, and I have a bone to pick with you about that show. Okay. Okay. Yeah. That's not it. Okay. By the way, is it true or is it not true
Starting point is 00:03:07 that Trucker Andy sucked you off to completion while you were playing Xana Claus? It doesn't take long. Okay. Let's see this conversation. Isotopes good? Yeah. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yes. Great. They gave out gifts to everyone. My friend got a butt plug. I got a Steve Lawrence record. It was the equivalent of Charlie Brown getting a rock. She will love that.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I have, I had to give it to my friend because I haven't a record player. So whatever. All I just want to say to you is, you make me come to the club, dress up as Santa Claus to hand out butt plugs. Okay, so I was responsible for all the booze that we gave out. Anything like someone got chattering teeth they're all excited about. I didn't purchase any of those things. This is a team effort that we have. And I wasn't part of the rapping party because I had a podcast with Gina Bisconti who was hung over the day we were supposed to podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Well, all I have to say is, I feel very awkward about dressing up like Santa Claus and handing someone a butt plug. You handed a friend of yours a butt plug. Now, does she sent you back photos yet, or how is that working? Oh, yeah, it's on her only fans. Very good. Should we promote that right now? Nope. Onlyfans.com slash Vic the Review Girl.
Starting point is 00:04:19 You know what? I got to tell you something. What's that? I'm so happy that we are into this new game, this new round. because this round has been a lot of fun for me. Uh-oh. I've not looked at the voting yet. Last week we did. Creepiest World Cup.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Creepious soccer player, yeah. Footballer. Footballer, sure. Yeah, creepiest footballer. And who was yours again? Well, mine was obviously Nizar DeBelsi. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Became a joined Al-Qaeda. You know, he's responsible for TSA and all the issues that I have to deal with now in my life. Now, I would think that you really got me upset what you said. upset about TSA Vovis. Guy was like, God damn it. He makes a really good point. That seemed like I had a good kicker there. Well, Carl, my guy who forces chick to have an abortion that didn't work, then he kidnapped
Starting point is 00:05:07 after fed her to his dogs, and then was allowed to go play soccer a whole bunch more in Brazil. Yeah. Turns out, he whooped your ass. 113 to 166. Wow. Vinny with a strong victory right there. I thought I had a pretty good one. Vin housing for the win housing.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Let me tell you something, Carl. That puts me three to one in this round I don't like that And I might have my Patreon money Back by the New Year Oh, that's annoying That's annoying I hope that's not the case
Starting point is 00:05:35 I swear to God I hope you use it to bet on the dolphins yesterday I did I did bet on the dolphins yesterday Fuck And it was because of your recommendation Motherfucker I asked your team was playing Gino's team so I messaged both you guys
Starting point is 00:05:46 You seem confident Geno seemed unconfident So I'm going with the dolphins Now am I happy they lost Of course I want to tell you exactly what happened In my house Yeah
Starting point is 00:05:55 My buddy Kevin came over my wife was ever watching the game in the living room, and they bring on the pregame show when they start doing all the picks. And I was like, we picked the dolphins. I picked the dolphins. No, I picked the dolphins. I picked the dolphins.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And I went, that's not good. Uh-oh. We're not good at meeting expectations. This is going to be a spectacular fail. The second I saw everybody pick the dolphins, I went, oh, no. What about when the charges went for it on fourth and goal and decided to use their third option on a gadget play?
Starting point is 00:06:23 Anyway, that's neither here or there, Vinny. Somehow the Dolphins lost that game, and I thank them for that, even though I lost my bet. It's still, I'd rather not have the money and have the Dolphins with the other L in the division. All right. Well, you almost lost to the Jets. Eat my ass off. Almost lost it. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:06:40 Let's move on. What were the Jets even leading in that game? What do you mean? They were coming back. Okay. Yeah, if they had only three more quarters, who knows what is the old Vince LaVarty say? They did lose the game. They just ran out of time.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Yep. Okay. So speaking of game. games. I'm up three to one in this round. And today we have decided to continue. People love our recap of the Bills and Dolphins games, by the way. That's becoming a fan favorite segment on here. Well, I believe that every year from now and when the Bills play the dolphins, it should be called the Creeper Bowl. Well, that's coming up this weekend. It is coming up this weekend. And I refuse to watch it with you. I understand. Because you're just the absolute God
Starting point is 00:07:17 I understand. Yeah. People were saying to me, are you coming over to watch a game at Carlos House with him? Nope. He's, he's welcome. He's invited. I ain't going over there. We gave the invitation. I don't have time for that shit. Yeah, I don't blame you. I don't have time for that shit. Jenny's wonderful. Jenny makes a great spread. She does.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yeah, but your face ruins it for everybody. Fair enough. Now. Maybe if I dress up like Kanye, you can come over and watch the game with me. But don't you always dress up like Kanye? Sometimes. I'll be saying crazy things like, I think some of the dolphins are good people. All the dolphins are bad people.
Starting point is 00:07:52 All of them. Anyway, I don't even know what people are getting this reference. Let's move on. That was deep. I was calling your team Nazis. It doesn't matter. It's neither here nor there. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Okay. Okay. My quarterback doesn't have a Hitler mustache, but you know, whatever. Or a razor deal. You gross, shitty facial hair and then all of a sudden, Gillette gives you millions of dollars. Fucking two is lucky if a goddamn car dealership wants to hire him that motherfucker. Right now, I'm so mad at that goddamn asshole. He's going to murder his whole family after that concussion shit.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah. It's very possible. All right. Today we're sticking with the Christmas spirit. Yes. We are going to decide once and for all who is officially the creepiest mall Santa. By the way, speaking of the holidays, today is a holiday. Did you know that?
Starting point is 00:08:38 Which one? Well, it's Trucker Andy's birthday. But more importantly than that, it is Super Champ Monday. Can you believe it? One of the chances we're always. Oh, I forgot my bell. We're always broadcasting during Super Champ Monday. And it starts with Tucker Dixon.
Starting point is 00:08:51 $2 go Jags. Tucker, you don't even watch these games. I know what you're on. to you're, uh, Mr. Family guy over there driving the kids around when you should be sitting at home on your college watching football like an American adult would. I know what you're up to. But anyway, thanks, Tucker, for the $2. We need to set a rule right now.
Starting point is 00:09:09 We're going to read these at the end. We're going to read these at the end. Yes. If you want to interrupt the flow, it's going to cost you at least $20. Me? No, if you want to interrupt the flow. Oh, I was going to say you're the one interrupting last week. I thought you're going to be out.
Starting point is 00:09:22 We will only interrupt. I see. for a $20 super chat. All right. $19.99, we keep going. $20, we stop what we're doing. Yep, that's the answer. Sounds good.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I can see the super chess this week, by the way, in case you couldn't tell. Yeah. That's a new thing we're doing. Yeah. So we're going to not interrupt the flow of the show unless you pay us to do so. Okay. All right, Carl. Let's ring the bell and let's start this out, shall we?
Starting point is 00:09:46 Oh, boy, is my guy a creep. Great name. His name is Ronald McDonald. It sure is. C. McDonald. I found this guy because it was the first Google search I did when I typed in Mall Santa Arrested. This was the first
Starting point is 00:10:02 This was the first one. It was. I started reading it. I went, oh, this is Benny's guy. Okay. No, this was not the first one. I felt like I dug for this. I was getting the guy up in Toronto. Listen, I'm not going out for it. Played Santa Claus for over 25 years this guy. He was a prominent figure in Seattle because he was not
Starting point is 00:10:20 just one of the city's favorite mall santas. He was a, every day of the year, Santa Claus visiting the children's hospital. He was a U.S. Navy veteran, and he worked as a janitor at the Washington Medical Center from 1959 until his retirement in 1982. It was at that job in 1967 when his co-worker suggested that he take over the role for Santa for the sick kids after the regular Santa retired. Isn't this sweet? That is sweet, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:46 This guy is like an old Navy guy. It's giving back. I like to think he was on the USS Indianapolis with Quint. he was out there in the water with the sharks eating everybody and now he's like i'm going to be santa and give something back it's awesome so his wife beryl acted as mrs claus and they would visit with patients throughout the entire year start in 1982 macdonald would pose in pictures during the holiday season at the lake forest town center mall where he became seattle's most beloved christmas santa well they're making that up it's not like there was uh people were actually
Starting point is 00:11:18 voting on who's the most beloved Santa Claus. Which ball is the best Santa. Nope, it was this guy. Vote now. Now, let me tell you how people described him. They said he was a loving, wonderful man who always had kids around his house in their neighborhood. They said that he had an amazing talent for soapstone carving and for just a love of rhubarb pie, Carl.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Listen, I'm sure there's wonderful things about Cardiff Electric, too. That doesn't mean that I'm excited to hang out with him. He was able to communicate with hearing impaired children through sign language. Okay. And he even learned how to speak Vietnamese for young refugees. Let me guess what his sign language was. Hey, Timmy, come here. Well, all of these good works were good and fine until October 1997.
Starting point is 00:12:05 When the parents of an unidentified six-year-old, apparently a six-year-old in his own family went to the police. And boy, did they have a story to tell. Okay. The police went to his house and confronted him, and they admitted, he admitted in front of the police and his family, that he began molesting this child when she was two months old. No one told me there was going to be boasting. Two months, huh?
Starting point is 00:12:33 He sees you wet your TV. You still got that juice from the vaginal walls on you when you two months. That's gross. He licked it fucking off like that guy. It got all up in his beard. Okay, that's too much. now as he got arrested he got arrested
Starting point is 00:12:52 and people started coming out accusing him because apparently he was a bit of a problem he was immediately charged with four counts of child rape and three counts of child molestation involving victims age 7, 6, 4, and 1. Now according to court documents McDonald confessed
Starting point is 00:13:08 that he had been molesting the six-year-old girl since he was two months old and that he directed the seven-year-old boy to have sex with her Yeah, that's not how that works He sees you when you're sleeping He gets you to start coming To be fair that kid's Christmas gift was to get laid That's what he asked Santa for
Starting point is 00:13:30 That seven year old is like I gotta get some pussy Get that out of the way Santa I need some pussy Okay So he watched it and masturbated While these two children tried to figure out intercourse One teenage neighbor described Who didn't want to be identified
Starting point is 00:13:44 said she found the charge is upsetting, but not surprising. Okay. She said she stopped visiting their house because she felt like he was luring the kids there. He had every doll and toy imaginable, every kind of toy. He had 300 kid movies, she said. Wait a second. This guy was a toy collector? Huh.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Is that common that a guy would want to be near children would collect a lot of toys and have a lot of toys around? I think the question should be. You could go after people who collect. articulated figures. Didn't the guy who molested Jim Forentine collect like wrestling photos? There's a lot of wrestling
Starting point is 00:14:22 photos in here too. I'll give you this picture of superstar Billy Graham if you don't say anything good. I swear to God. Jim and I say it to fucking I'm getting suspicious right now. It's sticky lips on Culver
Starting point is 00:14:34 and he was telling me that whole story. That's an interesting story. It is fucking wild. Yes, he was blessed by a guy who was Jim was always hot. All right. That's the point of that story. This guy was like, I'll give you like 30 pictures if you don't tell your parents.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Look at this one. I got this one right here, Tito Santana. And a young Jim Fortridge just goes, look, if you just tell me when you're going to finish, that'd be great. Actually, what just don't want it in my mouth. Let me tell you what Jim Florentine said. He said, you'll let me take 30? And he goes, yeah. And so he picked out 30 pictures and then he went and told his parents.
Starting point is 00:15:12 That's the true story. That's great. So basically everybody in the neighborhood was like either loved him or thought he was creepy. And in court documents, a neighbor said that she made him like the godparents to her kid. You know, one of the things about being a successful child molester is charm. It's important to be charming. Nobody expects Santa, but they should. They should. Yeah, no shit.
Starting point is 00:15:40 In court documents, prosecutors say McDonald admitted to police that his. sexual contact with children extended over 60 years. Oh, now he's just bragging. Oh, he's bragging all right. Now he's just taking a victory lap. And there were at least 45 victims. Listen, everyone exaggerates their number. Am I right, Vinnie?
Starting point is 00:15:59 Every guy exaggerates their number. Every girl diminishes it. I don't know if that's true. It's probably a lot fewer than that. His son Craig testified in court, Carl. Would you like to know what his son Craig said to the judge? What did Craig say? that little tattletail, that little snitch.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Please give him the maximum sentence. Okay. His own children went and testified, please lock him up forever. I'm guessing they were maybe victims of this as well. And what I really like about Ronald Carroll McDonald, Ronald C. McDonald, he apologized at court and he went with the oldest cliche in the book. I'm not Santa. He was like, I'm not Santa.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I was Satan to those kids and I am truly sorry. Okay, you're also guilty of being a hack. out of my courtroom, sir. Acquins, Andy fucking made children fuck in front of him. Isn't that interesting, though, that once you start raping children, like all of a sudden, incest also was just like, oh, whatever, I've already got this far.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Give the shit, right? On January 9th, 1998, McDonald's ultimately given the maximum sentence, 26 and a half years in confinement at the state treatment center for sexual offenders. They didn't even send him to jail. They sent him to a place to study him. Okay. It wasn't out getting him better.
Starting point is 00:17:11 It was literally like a research facility. you don't get these people better anyway so that's fine that yeah they should all be said to be studied and then put down i can't could you imagine the fucking experiments they're doing there like they got these fucking petos strapped up to wires yeah this guy's in his fucking santa suit and they just bring out a kid and what do you like yeah i think of that thing on o and a where they had bobo and they're talking to him about all this shit and they're just watching his pants grow they talked about the mess he'd go down just back and forth like they're showing him a photo of a bald penis and he gets really excited
Starting point is 00:17:43 and they zoom out it's just a guy who shaves and he's like ah fuck that you know I think it's funny it's like a football like a football game is on a television yeah and then a kid walks in wearing a diaper just see which one he goes for all right yeah this can be fun yeah he died in 2011 fuck him straight
Starting point is 00:18:00 to hell but uh that is my creepiest santa he was making he did a lot of shit and he claims that he never did it on the job but it's really hard to believe that if you're into fucking two months old's that you're not rock fucking hard every goddamn day of the year when he's going around pretending to be Santa Claus and having everybody sit on his lap. Yeah, why even tempt yourself with that if you're not going to do something?
Starting point is 00:18:24 I got to tell you, Carl, I don't know if I believe him. Right. That'd be like me having the popcorn in my lap during a movie and not putting my boner through the bottom. Like, what's the point? I'm just going to let my girlfriend eat some popcorn. I got to tell you, I've never been brave enough to try that move. No one has.
Starting point is 00:18:40 It's so stupid. It is the dumbest idea in the world. And I feel like getting salt in the tip of your dick might be a problem. Although a salty, buttery penis, there's probably worse things out there, right? But he doesn't know what to do with that. All right. I brought a creep who also is a mollusant to Vinny. My creep, I believe this is the person you were alluding to before from Toronto, Canada.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yeah, the first Google result. Oh, stop. And it was not. I had to do some digging on this one. Bruce Bruce McArthur is my creep. Now, I had a feeling
Starting point is 00:19:17 you were going to bring in child molestation. Oh, did you? That seems to be your thing. So I said, Excuse you. So I said, let's find something
Starting point is 00:19:23 a little bit more interesting than that. Let's find something you wouldn't expect a mall Santa to be up to. My creep this week, Bruce McArthur, set records for the
Starting point is 00:19:33 longest active serial killing spree in Canada and also the oldest known serial killer in Canada. He holds a both of these records. There's not very many up there.
Starting point is 00:19:43 It's not that impressive. We got guys like fucking Gary Ridgeway in the fucking states. This guy doesn't hold a fucking candle. USA! USA! USA! There's a lot of reasons to be a proud American on this day, Vinny.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I agree with you on that. I will say, though, when I was researching creepy mall Santas, I found a lot of them to be from Canada for some reason. I don't know why that is. Does Christmas last longer up there or something? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Maybe it's a year-round Christmas. All I know is that my mall Santa didn't last very long. He came everywhere. Buckets. Gross. All right. So in 1969... In 19669, same-sex relationships were decriminalizing Canada.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And that sprung the Church and Wesley gay village of Toronto. There's this little area of Toronto that becomes like kind of the gay hangout. Is that where the Maple Leafs play? Oh, I see what you did there. So I think that's where Maple Leafs fan on Twitter hangs out. I just, he followed me the other day and I blocked him because I do exactly what it was. Yeah, I think it's a different person now.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I think someone grabbed John's old sock account that he couldn't keep up with. But anyway, I blocked that person. Fuck him. Fuck him. Who cares? So this gentleman, Bruce McArthur, was, he grew up in a rural area. He was always gay, but he couldn't admit it because it was shunned. You know, he was a religious guy growing up.
Starting point is 00:21:21 It was shunned about the pastures. He had a family. He had a wife. He had kids. Eventually, the marriage broke up because he was a gay man. And that doesn't usually last forever when you're a gay man. So after he left his wife, he decided to move to Toronto and hang out. in the gay area.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Well, on Halloween 2001, he took some poppers and lost control. He went back with a guy to his house, to his apartment. And with a lead pipe that used to carry around with him, he beat him almost to death. That's a little more than out of control. Yeah, it's a little out of control. Like, out of control is him running around asshole first to people.
Starting point is 00:21:58 That's also out of control. That's also out of control. Bashing someone with a fucking lead pipe. Well, the mistake he made is that he didn't kill the guy. So the guy knew who he was because he used to hang out at the same gay bars together and obviously they were going to go home
Starting point is 00:22:10 with each other. So this guy was arrested for that and the part of the sentencing which I find odd, he was barred from hanging out in the church in Wesley neighborhood. It's like for murdering someone. That's all the guy.
Starting point is 00:22:23 We tried to kill someone. We got a few of the approbation. He got a few things. But that was like he's not allowed to hang out there anymore was one of the things. Now it didn't matter because most of the people in the community
Starting point is 00:22:33 wouldn't have anything to do with him after that. So what he started doing is he started dating immigrants who came to Canada from the Middle East and parts of Southeast Asia where homosexuality is mostly suppressed. So what's happening here is you had these guys, most of them have families as well, and they can't relieve their sexual urges where they live because they'll be killed for it. Could you imagine what a douchebag this guy was on dates with these guys? He's like, I totally relate to you.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I come from the farmland of Canada. You're from Iran, I understand. Right. He's got it from Afghanistan and Iran. It's a little different. In 2002, so after this... My brother made fun of me. Well, my brother murdered six gay men in front of me by the time I was 10.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yeah, while laughing his ass off. In 2002, MacArthur registered with Ricon, a gay fetish dating website for men into BDSM, where his profile noted his interest in submissive men. He was active on numerous gay dating websites, including, listen to this list here, Betty. Silver Daddy's, Man Jam, Grinder, Bear 411, Bear Forest, Scruff, Daddy Hunt, Squirt, and Growler. I've never heard of any of, well, obviously, I've heard of, what was it called Bear Forest? Bear Forest. I have a feeling that isn't about shaving.
Starting point is 00:23:57 It's not. It's not about wiping your ass either, like those Charmin Bears. God damn it. Remind me to tell you how annoyed I am with these fucking bears. You do nothing but shit all day long and how they are on every fucking football game is commercial. I like those commercials. They're cute.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Oh, they're the worst. They're adorable. They're the worst. When they have to go fucking house. Well, two bears want to wipe the bottoms. When they have to go house shopping, they have to find a place with at least four baths in it. Because they're all shitting all the time.
Starting point is 00:24:22 That's all they're ever fucking doing these bears. All they have to do is find a house and eat the people inside of it that has four bathrooms. There you go. Not hard. So there were eight total victims. Six of these victims were immigrants, people of color. There was one white Canadian that we'll talk about.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And one was a drug-addicted homeless sex worker. There was gorty. So basically what you're seeing here is that this guy is taking advantage of the fact that these people are living double lives. They don't want to be found. They're trying to stay quiet with their lifestyle. And so this guy's like, hey, I'll hook up with you. And then he ends up murdering them. So MacArthur had become a self-employed landscaper.
Starting point is 00:25:01 operating under the name Artistic Designs, a colleague who installed water features on three of MacArthur's projects described him as more of a gardener operating out of a little van with old tools. He said that MacArthur was always accompanied by an older white man who appeared to be romantically involved with him, a day laborer, usually a Southeast Asian or Middle Eastern descent. So he's actually getting his victims to work for him first, which is smart, if you ask me.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Yeah. Payday isn't a lot of fun for them. All right, time to pay up. No, you're supposed to pay me, sir. Most of McArthur's clients were wealthy, elderly women who found him charming, and he had built a client base through personal recommendations during the offseason MacArthur were trade Santa Claus at Agencourt Mall, just outside of Toronto. Oh, so he was a gardener, and then he needed to make a little extra.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Yeah, there's not a lot to do with landscaping come December in Ontario. Come spring, you'll be turning shrubberies into penises again. That's right. I have a fun story here In 2014, Bruce's son Todd was sentenced to 14 months in jail For making multiple obscene phone calls His son's such a creep
Starting point is 00:26:08 He's just calling girls and saying By the way, this is the thing That actually used to be a thing before the internet Guys who just call girls and say obscene things This happened in 2014 Is it that why Casey quit? Yeah, I think that's why Casey quit the show, yes So his son was released on bail
Starting point is 00:26:25 In order to stay with his father at his Toronto apartment and assist with McArthur's landscaping business, a former friend of Todd visited one night and discovered the wall of MacArthur's bathroom was decorated with photos of naked men with erections. He said that most of the men appeared to be East Indian. Where do you hang your towels?
Starting point is 00:26:42 And the Todd said, they were men whom his father knew. MacArthur did not hide the fact and laughing about it over breakfast one morning. Oh, you found the wall of dicks, huh? Yeah, I know those guys. I call it Dad's Dickwold. Oh, you know how I stuck him up there? So the reason why this guy was able to get to him with his crimes for so long was because, A, as I mentioned,
Starting point is 00:27:08 these people were mostly immigrants who came in here were trying to keep a low profile. There might have been some racism involved where the cops didn't really care that much. He was actually brought in for questioning in 2013 after two of his victims had disappeared. One of them even worked for MacArthur for his landscaping company. And the guy was a smooth talker, so they just did. just let him go. Like, all right. Yeah, you sound like you're not the problem here.
Starting point is 00:27:31 So they fucking had the guy after a couple. Listen, thanks guys. Come on over to see the Dick Wall anytime. Have a great day, eh? I got to go back to go on. I got to get to the mall for my shift. The Great Wall of Dicks. In 2016, he strolled a guy in the back of his van.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And this guy was able to get away. So he's trying to strangle him to death. He gets away, goes to the police. The police questioned him. He says, you know what? he liked rough sex. I thought he was into it. I didn't realize it. I was going too far. But, you know, we've done it before.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And he seemed to, like, really like that. And the police believed him, even though the back of his van is covered in plastic. He had plastic lining all over the back of his van. It's like, yeah, that's normal. Gay guys don't want to get to see him everywhere. I mean, I guess. You don't want to ruin the interior, eh? This checks out.
Starting point is 00:28:20 So there's this thing that a lot of cops have talked about, like why Dahmer got away with what he did for a while was because the cops just thought gay stuff was icky and they were like okay whatever yeah they're like this guy is saying
Starting point is 00:28:33 you strangling him it's like oh yeah let me tell you how he likes his sex okay no never mind no more question that's fine we'll use our imagination on this one
Starting point is 00:28:39 you're free to go all right dick wall we got it we'll see you later yeah we're free to go sir the final victim Andrew Kingsman was well known
Starting point is 00:28:48 in the gay community he went missing in 2017 and they found enough evidence to lead them to MacArthur now they don't have enough evidence to arrest him but they start following him around for a while and they're watching him drive around in his van
Starting point is 00:29:02 what he does is he takes photos of gay guys in the neighborhood and then he goes back online to find them on these dating sites so he's scoping these people out ahead of time and then scrolling through all these photos finding them I know that guy from Man Jam yeah I see that guy he was on Bear Forest So then police see in January 2018, they're surveying
Starting point is 00:29:27 him and they see that he brings a guy home with him. So they're like, fuck, we got to do something right now. So they quickly get granted permission to enter his home. As they enter his home, they find this guy completely tied to the bed and blindfolded. Like, this was about to go down. They caught him in the act. They caught him
Starting point is 00:29:46 red-handed. And they arrested him. Eventually, MacArthur admitted to all of the killings. There were eight total, as I mentioned. And he buried the bodies in various areas because of his landscaping business, he had enough ground to cover that he was able to go and bury the bodies at all different places. So he gave people free fertilizer. Correct, yes. Yeah, this is a beautiful tree growing out in the backyard.
Starting point is 00:30:10 There's just to be hired Bruce. He's doing a great job. Anyway, he was given life for being a serial killer. Yeah, it sounds like he was a creepy landscaper. This week's category was creepiest mall Santa. It sounds to me like he was a serial killer. He was Santa every year and was well known for playing Santa because you fucking found him out of line, asshole, when you were researching this.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Don't even try that shit. Yeah, because he was number one. No one's a full-time Santa. That's not a thing. This guy's a full-time Santa. That's bullshit. He retired and he went to the hospital. Your guy was a janitor.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Until he retired and became a full-time Santa for sick kids. He was a seaman. He was a seaman. He was a janitor. So fuck off. My guy was a full-time. full-time gay guy who happened to play Santa Claus every December. My guy played Santa Claus every day and liked to watch
Starting point is 00:30:57 the children play with each other's parts. All right. Santa Claus is coming. All right. So what people can do now, they've heard both of our arguments. I have Bruce MacArthur. Vinny has what's his nuts. Ronald McDonald, Carl.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Ronald C. McDonald. You go on our subreddit. Don't be a cloud. You go on the subreddit and then you go ahead and vote for who you think brought the creepiest mall Santa this week. And remember, I need to start coming back. I'm down three to one.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Cause a ruse. Let's go. Let's have a merry new year. Let's be back in the money, baby. And I want people to, here's a, I'm going to, normally I don't do this video, as you know. But I'm going to make a case for myself
Starting point is 00:31:37 on why you should vote for me this week. Sure, be my guest. Go visit Brooke McArthur's wiki page. Scroll through that shit and then realize how good a job I did summarizing all that and not bringing up every little fucking painstaking detail about this guy. You're welcome. Let's move.
Starting point is 00:31:51 We got any voicemails? I thought we'd do, who are these creepos? Oh, yeah, we got the who are these creepos? Oh, can I also plug the fact that we're doing a bonus episode after this? Yeah, let's do that. I'm excited about it. I've been looking forward to it all weekend. Are you going to tell the truth?
Starting point is 00:32:08 Creepos. Are you going to tell our listeners the truth? Minnie, I've been very busy. Are you going to tell our listeners the truth? So what happened was, Saturday was a rough day for me. Oh, for you. I know. You had your thing going on.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I apologize. But I had to get up, write jokes, record jokes, record an entire podcast, load in for sound check, get all of the jokes and everything, edited and prepared for the show, come back, play the show, load out. It was a very, very busy day, Vinnie. How does that affect your normal prep time of noon on Monday? Yesterday, I had to get up, edit the podcast. There were, Gino's recording on his phone. There's a billion noises I had to take out. I spent painstakingly went through that to clean it all that up.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Watch the bills win. Watch the dolphins lose. I've been very busy, Betty. I didn't have time to prep, but I will. I will have time to prep for our bonus show about Chris Chan part two or three or six. Part three. Awesome. And a little bonus, people got mad at me when I said we were doing Chris Chan.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I got a little pedophile hunter theater for you. Okay. A little bit of Pito Hunter. Is that going to make people happy? It does. People get very happy about that segment. Very good. It's a good one.
Starting point is 00:33:26 We're going to Canada again. Now, folks, let's do Who Are These Creepos? Carl, go right ahead. Who are these creepos? All right. This is the segment on the show that we started doing because we're both petty assholes. And we want to prove to you that we have the best true crime show on the internet today. And it's obvious to me.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I think it's obvious to Vinny. but is everyone else convinced yet? I don't think so. So what we're going to do is we're going to break down the other true crime shows one of the time to show you why we are the best true crime show and also just to turn you off from even this whole genre. It's terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I don't understand why this is so popular. It's so every podcast I listen to true crime podcast is worse than the next. And what I listened to this week is a show called, and that's why we drink, hosted by Christine Schiefer and M. Scholes. Oh, actually, this is what it says on their logo. It says, by Christine Schiefer, M. Scholes, and Boxed Wine. So it's another fucking true crime show where it's like, hey, everybody, we're just two gals drinking and talking about true crime.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Here's the description of the show. Murder and the paranormal finally meet. Grab your wine and milkshakes and join us every Sunday for some chilling ghost stories and downright terrifying true crime stories. The world's a scary place And that's why we drink I love that they're acting Like they're the first ones
Starting point is 00:34:53 To marry paranormal with murder Like every other Patrick Michael podcast Is the same premise It's not that impressive Just about every true crime podcast For some reason does paranormal stories It's because it's for women Women love ghost stories
Starting point is 00:35:05 They fucking love ghost stories For some reason Why is that, Vinny? Is it because there's still children And like make believe? Is that why? I ask you I blame the wine
Starting point is 00:35:16 This is an embarrassing start to the show right here. Oh, I thought you were going to play a Tucker Dixon recap. Shit, hold on, hold on, take day, pick, take it. I get it. Christmas. No, hold on. I'll do it. I got it.
Starting point is 00:35:32 No, shut up, shut up, shut up. Okay. Christmas time is here. There, okay. The weird thing about your-nailed it. What the hell is you supposed to be? It's your pitch or your harmony. I don't know what the right word is.
Starting point is 00:35:45 But you really do. sound like multiple children in unison. That's the demon that live inside me where all of them kind of rally together and sing in chorus, yeah. I don't know how one voice sounds like a unison, but, um... There's been no laughs! What do you mean? None!
Starting point is 00:36:02 Finney, should I team up with these two ladies? They seem to laugh at everything each other says. I wish I could get that kind of support out of you. Oh, it's the demons inside me, Vinny. The reason why it sounds like multiple voices is all those. demons I get nothing I get nothing from you Betty
Starting point is 00:36:22 I can't help you here I can't help you here alright well let me show you how it's done this is hilarious banter right here and you know how I know it's hilarious banter because they're both laughing so much oh Lord
Starting point is 00:36:37 oh well um happy Thanksgiving Christmas Manaquantuanca Happy Holidays from us to you. It's December. Happy Toyotathon, Honda Days. Whatever you practice privately.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Whatever, we acknowledge all of the above. I'm grinding my teeth. Yeah. Are you annoyed yet? Yes. I am actually. I give time off for all of the above. Especially happy Honda days.
Starting point is 00:37:07 If Eva texted us and went, listen, it's going to be a big day over here at the Eva Gross family house for Toyotathon. I'm really going to need to take the day off. My girlfriend, Rachel, and I have actually converted, and we're now celebrating the Toyotathon. So they're still doing Toyotathon jokes, many of you notice that? They're really running with this premise. But wait, it gets worse. It gets worse. That is funny.
Starting point is 00:37:32 We're actually trucked people now. Oh, we're actual trucks. Just like the movie cars. We're the literal trucks now. They morphed into. Hong Kongk, honk, I need time off. And I'd say, okay. My girlfriend's actually a Toyota car.
Starting point is 00:37:46 can't read out. Oh, I see. Oh, I knew we weren't allowed to ask that when we were, you know, it's like a private question to ask somebody, so I'm glad we finally know the deals. Anyway. That's funny. I'm funny. Some lighthearted humor. You like that, Benny? Oh, it was good stuff. They're trucks now. That's why they celebrate Toyotathon. Because they're not even people. And I like that you can always tell
Starting point is 00:38:16 someone's intellect when they say you know like that cartoon movie cars it's like that yeah i do know that good one this show is like that high school warning movie blood on the pavement yes dude this is so bad and the staple of every one of these true crime shows where they have to drink and then read stories is that for some reason they feel the need to tell you about what they're drinking as if you're sitting at home going huh how am i going to get smashed today and listen to these nonsense and is cackling women. How could I sound this retarded? Yeah, I'm going to need a recipe or two ladies.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Let's go. I'm, uh, I have something to crack into it. I'm drinking, um, something you're going to absolutely hate. Um, what is it like sardine juice or something? Good one, stupid. It's like sardine juice. Oh, God. It's good one.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Good stuff. It would be funny if she said it, what is it, Mountain Dew? Come on. Sardine juice or something? You might be able to guess. It's close. Uh, so I got it at Trader Joe. It's organic, sparkling, lemon and strawberry, apple, cider, vinegar beverage.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Wow. She got it at Trader Joe's, Vinny. Should we run out right now and grab some? Well, next time you go over to Trader Joe's, honey, could you bring me some rope in a stool, which you might? Holy shit. This is bad. It's really bad. And by the way, this is a very big show.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I'm sure you've heard of it before, right? No. It's the show that has the Ouji Bucy. board logo and the blood splattered on it they do tours they do live shows all over this is not those two this is not like um true crime and red wine do they do they have to do it in a garage because they cause now oh i get it no they don't i assume i assume they do it in a small club somewhere i really do hate any successful true crime podcast it's really kind if it were good i'd be fine with it you know not for nothing like
Starting point is 00:40:14 There is a, the fact. I'm not, listen, I'm not bad to people's success. I never am. I'm happy for everyone. My problem with it is this should not be what success looks like. This should be, we're still trying to figure it out. That's what this looks like to me. Okay, I just need to say this.
Starting point is 00:40:29 The true crime genre in itself is pretty fucking ghoulish. Yeah. The whole idea, it's very fucking dark. Yeah. And especially our type of show where there's, we're trying to at least be humorous with it. Sure. But these people. all they are is just fucking merchants of fucking bad news.
Starting point is 00:40:48 That's all the show is like, and this person died horrifically. And then they go, oh, that's too bad. Yeah, that's two to next week. There's two ways. There's two ways to play it. There's the Marissa Jones, like, I'm just putting this out as a public service. I just want good things to happen here, you know, as if it's not just like, no, you're just taking advantage of this. It's just titillating and you know it.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And then there's the people like, ah, Sue go, ah, this kid got molested. 17 times before he was six. That's kind of funny. Didn't tell anybody with a dummy. Yeah, you probably should tell someone if you don't like it. All right. So they decide on this episode I checked out that they were going to read some listeners stories.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Now, Vinny, I can't think of a worse idea than involving the listeners in the content of the show. Are we still doing that thing where the bonus show where the listeners compete with us? Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. This is what happens when you involve the listeners into your podcast. Okay, it's called Home for the Holidays Ghost Story by Kayla, who uses she, her pronouns. Thank you for normalizing pronouns, Kayla.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And the story goes. Thank you for normalizing pronouns. Yeah, Carl uses it and that. Ugh. All right. So the story's told, and this girl grew up with their brother, brothers got ghosts in their old house that they lived in. She comes home from college. And, um.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Cool. she's in the living room taking a little nap next to her brother she wakes up she sees a ghost i saw this video yeah you probably did back from college hey sis there's a ghost you better stay close to each other listen to the reaction from these two dummies when they talk about the ghost part of this he doesn't respond so i call out louder alan and then the recliner sits up and my brother sits up. I should warn everyone. This is some scary shit. All right. We don't normally have this type of scary content on our show. Oh, no. Yeah, so watch out. And then the recliner sits up and my brother sits up and says, what do you want? I'm sleeping. He's in the recliner. Truly, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I hate it. I hate it. Wow. The goose cam hit both my arms at the same time this time. I'm still looking at this. Does it usually go in weight? It's usually one arm at a time for some reason, but this time it hit me in both elbows, got me in the knees, a little on the thighs. It's all over the place. Yeah, we're all getting deuce chills over here, ladies. It's not just you.
Starting point is 00:43:25 That ain't funny. So they go on. Now, this is the listener who wrote in with this true ghost story about this ghost that haunts her parents' house. And she goes on to say this. I have a few more crazy stories about houses I lived in when in college. while I was in college, and I will have to write in later about them. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:43:46 This poor listener, wherever she lives, there's a ghost there. Everywhere she goes, it's haunted. What are the chances of that, Benny? What are the chances? Oh. How unlucky. Everywhere she's going, there's ghost there hanging out. I never go to there with a ghost, but she's always with ghosts, this woman.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Some people are more sensitive to the paranormal than others. I guess so. Ah, gee whiz, what a bummer. I fucking hate ghost stuff. Even the dorm room was haunted. Ghost stuff is the worst. Oh, jeez. I fucking hate it.
Starting point is 00:44:13 You know why I hate ghost stories, Vinny? Because it never, nothing ever happens. Like, the movie Poltergeist is fucking cool. Because those things got shit done. Yeah. You show me the fucking person who got sucked through the television into fucking hell. Yes. Now we're talking.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Now that's a fucking ghost story. But the ghost story were just like, and then I touched the object because it was cold. Like, okay. Because of shit. Oh, is that impressive? The worst ones to me are the ones of people who, on the, those shows, they just walk and go, did you hear that? Oh, I know. Did you hear that?
Starting point is 00:44:44 I know, then they amplify it. It's like, someone took a stop. It's literally like, do you know how you get that job? They ask you one question on the fucking interview. How good are you pretending to hear shit? Yeah. That's how you get cast on that show. Whoa. Hold on. What was that? Wait, wait, video, wait, what was that? Everyone heard that right? Did we, were we recording? Did we get that? Did we get that? In this studio, probably not. I didn't even know for streaming. But it would be lucky we were. And they're all so full of shit because they all have like their fake science tools too.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Oh, yeah. Well, you got to have the audio officer on there measuring the audiopsy of the room. They use that one thing. They walk around like they're on fucking Star Trek going, oh, I'm scanning for ghosts. You know what that shit is? It's a fucking, it's the same type of thing that you buy at Home Depot to find the electrical wiring in walls. Yeah, right. They're like, nobody watches this show is.
Starting point is 00:45:40 ever done any home improvements. They'll never catch on to us here. Oh, but look. Lady, I'm glad you called us. Your lamp is haunted. Yeah. You're like going to the sky to the walls. Like, peep, beep, beep, beep, beep, oh. Oh, what is this? It's a stud ass all. It's a stud. Nope, I think it's a ghost. Portle to hell. It says right here, go to the hell. That's great. You wrote that on Sharpie. Portal to hell. This is my portal to hell. finder. What are you talking about? Did you go to ghost college?
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yeah. Did you go to ghost school dickhead? Yeah, okay. I bought it at Lowe's, but it's a really creepy Lowe's. You've never been there before. My friend Kevin works. I heard it blows. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:29 All right. So now Kayla. Oh, we're still with these two. Kayla wants to explain how excited she is that she's been able to listen to the show. for so long. You're the first podcast I ever listened to and you continue to be one of my absolute favorites. I love that I got to listen
Starting point is 00:46:48 to your friendship grow. Aw. From Kayla. That's so nice, Kayla. Unfortunately, the ghost says she prefers the Rogan experience. Minnie, do you think people are going to say that someday to us? Like, we've watched your friendship grow over the years.
Starting point is 00:47:06 No. No, I think it's going to add to the murder suicide. Here's how this is going to add. I just don't know who's going to still be alive at the end of this is what's going to add carl's going to be so desperate for low cows he's going to turn on me and he's just going to be like every episode is going to be the fuck video episode and everybody's going to pay you a ton of money and i'm to sit there going what i do that joke's so unfunny it sounded like vittie paulino said it am i right people it sounds like your show now i know we should we should start that sooner than later actually hey chad you're off the hook buddy man all right oh my god
Starting point is 00:47:40 Speaking of Chad, real quick, and then we'll move on. All right. Well, it is the creep off. Go ahead. Chad Zumach on his show, I pulled a clip, was talking about the comedy at the carlson. Because he called this club that we're sitting in right now to find how many tickets are still available for DabbleCon, WATP Live.com. Get your tickets, February 3rd and 4th. Chad, for some reason, thought that he would call the club to blow the story wide open that it's not sold out yet.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Like that was what he wanted to find out. No, it's definitely not sold out yet. Yeah, it's not sold out yet. That's why we keep promoting it. If we, if it was sold out, you wouldn't. hear Carl on his knees at the beginning of every WATPB WATP live.com
Starting point is 00:48:17 WATP live.com Anyway, so then as Chad's talking about comic to Carl's, he goes, oh yeah, I know that club. I featured for Nikki Glazer there. So I grabbed our friend Mark when we were playing the show here Saturday night and I go, guess what Chad said? He goes, that motherfucker. We fucking kicked him out of here.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I'm like, I need you to come out of the show and tell that story. So hopefully we get Mark on very soon. Oh, good. To tell the chance, Sue Mock. He told me the whole story and I wasn't supposed to tell you and I told you and that you went and settled everybody on the show anyway. Fuck yeah, I did. Dude, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:48:49 I'm just a man. I'm just one man. What am I supposed to do, Vinny? I'm not mad at you. You give me information like that. I mean, it's not like you didn't prepare it all for the bonus episode we were going to do. You know what I probably need, Vinny? I probably need some help.
Starting point is 00:49:03 And that's why we drink is sponsored by BetterHelp therapy online. Of course, they're sponsored by Better Help. This is the problem that I have with this, though, Vinny. I thought you, I didn't think you were to say better help. I thought you say orthopedic shoes. I don't go to orthopedic anything. I thought the solution was drinking. It's in the title of the show.
Starting point is 00:49:24 That's why we drink it. And she's like, and by the way, if you need mental health, betterhelp.com. I was just going to get a 12 pack. Now I got to fucking download an app too. Jesus. Fuck that noise. But what I like, though, Vinny, is there's a lot of sponsors on the show. As I mentioned, they're pretty successful.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Oh, certainly. And I like the seamless ad copy. I like it when I'm listening to a show, and I'll say Tim Dillon's very good at this, too. I'm not even sure if it's an ad anymore. I don't know what's going on. It just sounds like the content of the show. I'm just having fun, but it's actually an ad read. We talk a lot about crime on the show, but you know what else feels like a crime trying to buy furniture these days.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Pretty good segue, huh, Vinny? Nope. We talk a lot about crime and paranormal, but you know what else is scary is really shitty furniture. You know what else is scary is financing that isn't interest-free? That's pretty scary. I fucking hate successful podcasts so much. They're the worst. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:23 So now we're going to find out that one of these women is a dog mom. I know. I'm also shocked to find that out. Oh, that was spooky. Okay. This is from Michaela, she, her. and the subject is a December ghost story like father like son
Starting point is 00:50:40 I love when they have a little subtitle you know I know it's like I don't know what it does to me but it does something also speaking of sons Giovanni came in to sit and he's just driving me absolutely nuts speaking of sons my dog just came into the room also this whole thing
Starting point is 00:51:01 that's so patronizing to their listeners oh there's a subtitle to your story wow Look at you. You're able to write a subtitle? Impressive. How dumb do you think your listeners? All right, don't answer that. Actually, now that I think about it, your listeners are probably very, very dumb. You own a dog? Wow, you can work email? Wow, we got your email. You use the right email address before you hit said. Good job. I hate everything so much. I have one more clip. Please get it over. Because this show is annoying.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Do it already. So they're reading all their, their listener stories here. and whoa so scary wow and this is something i guarantee you vanny you will never hear on the creep off and this is how i prove my point that we are the best true crime podcast out there today because i never ever have dreams about you or anyone in your family and if i did i would never talk about it at the show i actually woke up to record this episode from a dream that i was having about Gio. No, really? That's cute. I probably know. Just look at him. He's like, yeah. We were in San Francisco, and I was holding
Starting point is 00:52:09 him like a little baby. Uh, what? I was holding, uh, well, that's not the weirdest dream we've ever heard of. No, but it's still weird. I was holding him like a little pushy was in my lap and I was holding his back up and I was just, we just, I was giving him a little kiss. He was giving me a little kiss. I was giving him a little kiss. And we were just out by the water in San Francisco and we were in the back of a truck and it was driving around but the wind but the wind was making his hairs look so majestic yeah he does love to get like a little his main flows in the wind you know it's a good dream I love that story oh boring boring stop it wow what a boring dream that is I had a dream that I was with your dog
Starting point is 00:52:55 in the back of a truck and it was windy and that dream was brought to you by better help Holy shit. So this show sucks. And it wasn't difficult to be better than. And that's why we drink. Vinny. We're better than you. You need voice spells. We certainly do. And our voice sales segment is brought to by our friends in Syracuse. The creep off voicemail segment is brought to by the city of Syracuse. The Syracuse police sees 500 grams of meth from a local area man. I don't know how much jail time he's going to do. But the police holiday. party is going to be lit. See you in Syracuse.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Yeah, there's actually a bar there called the evidence locker. It's a lot of fun. All right, first voicemail. This one, we actually had a celebrity call in, and they were impressed with your presentation last week. Oh, good. Hello,
Starting point is 00:53:51 this is Hillary Clinton. I do it. I get a lot. Good job not choosing David Ike, Carl. we don't need people talking about listen people do we thank you Hillary uh all right wow I can't believe she listens to the show
Starting point is 00:54:14 she listens to every show while she nests and sheds her skin all right if Carl doesn't win this time there is no God it also shows you that the audience has never flown before 9-11, because I've flown both before and after. Man, fuck that al-Qaeda guy. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:54:37 The other guy's crime is what? Letting his cousin feed his dogs on the raw diet and not wanting to pay child support? Who wants to pay child support? Nobody. Who wants to fly comfortably? Fucking everybody. I don't want to take my shoes off to get on a plane. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:54:55 I hate taking my shoes off. there's a uh a thing happening in rochester comedy right now caro oh yeah what's that some guy started an open uh like a comedy show at some cafe somewhere okay and uh this person also happens to own a gym like an open mic kind of show uh no they say that it's like a uh showcase okay yeah and uh this guy's a little weird he owns a uh a gym for like babies to teach them how to tumble and stuff Oh, yeah, very weird. But he decided that for a stage, he was going to bring two of the tumble mats from his gym
Starting point is 00:55:34 to set up in the middle of these people's coffee shops. But the comedians have to take their shoes off before they can perform on the mats. For real? For real. This is really happening? This is really happening. And there's a giant argument over it.
Starting point is 00:55:50 It's the funniest goddamn thing I've ever seen. A gym with babies. Babies don't have credit cards. Who's going to sign up for that? Dumb parents with too much money. Who's going to want to go to that gym? What are the benefits? What are the perks? Where does this take place? Many if you don't might be asking? A cafe somewhere in like Marion way. Oh, okay. So it's a little out of town. Yeah. Why you want to go? I do. It sounds fascinating. You want to go do shoeless stand-up? Yes. Sounds gross. Well, I mean, I'll get a lot of laughs just for my club foot antics. That is true. That is true. you know like those assholes who come to like get up on stage and their whole first part of their act is like
Starting point is 00:56:27 what they're wearing like can you believe this sweater can you believe I'm wearing an Argyle sweater vest? You must think I'm a real shit head huh? You know? If that can be my ad except for like I can't help it. Like I'm literally no I was born club footage. Hey you guys hate it when your mom's pussy breaks your feet when you're being born
Starting point is 00:56:43 anyone else get tripped by their mom coming out of the cooch I'm going to need two minutes tripping and a 10 minute match penalty on my mom I was not called for her I had a very supportive mother not of my ankles though All right
Starting point is 00:57:00 All right All right moving on Ronnie and Syracuse is calling to yell at us He always has a problem with me Okay Benny it's Ronnie in Syracuse And I got a beef with you I don't know what happened to intro for the scum parade
Starting point is 00:57:14 But holy crap We had three fantastic jingles from Jenny with the strong pipes and the angelic voice and instead we got a club soda Kenny sound alike
Starting point is 00:57:26 with a 90s passio keyboard thing going so you need to ditch that stupid-ass song and bring us back to the lovely Jen you've got three choices there and the other thing I wanted to say
Starting point is 00:57:38 was I got a topic suggestion as you know I drive a bus and I haul out of Amish up through the northern New York State and these people can be creepy You look it up, you'll see. So why don't you guys try for a topic? Creepiest Amish person.
Starting point is 00:57:52 There's rape and incest, there's drugs, there's animal cruelty. There's even driving a buggy, well intoxicated. All that stuff is there. Good luck. Talk to you soon. Thank you, fuck you, bye. Hey, you know what? I can't argue with anything that person's saying, by the way.
Starting point is 00:58:08 You know what? I think I want to revisit creepiest bus driver after that call. No, I think what we should do is creepy. community in the United States I call Amish. Oh, I call that fucking creepy that place down in South Florida. Which one? Florida. You're talking about Miami? No.
Starting point is 00:58:26 You're talking about the Dolphins locker room? Yeah, okay. You win. No, the villas. I call the villas in Florida. The old people's swingers colony. Yep, yep, yeah. We're Brent Hatley and his wife hangout. Yeah, I call that. It's pretty gross. Sir, I just want to acknowledge what you had to say there.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Voice of an angel. Face of a victim. Yeah, hi. This is Andy from Sinister Dynastay, and I was thinking that maybe you guys were pretty aggrant when you were talking about that Mongolian dude. Maybe you guys are the ones who should be waterboarded, stampeded by a bunch of horses,
Starting point is 00:59:09 and pecked in the bags, and no one should know about it. All right, bye. Fuck you! All right. You got any voice spells, Carl? We were arrogant about Genghis Khan. Yeah, because we knew who it was on the first guest when they said, The Mongolian.
Starting point is 00:59:22 The only Mongolian guy I know. If I'm on Jeopardy and the topic is famous Mongolians, I'm going to get one of those rights. No, you idiot. We're talking about Jeff, the Mongolian. Oh, Jeff. Fuck. Not Genghis Khan. I was sick that day.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I don't have any voicemails, buddy. All right. So I guess that means it's time for the Scum Parade. Skull Parade. Take me all. I love the Cassio. That these creeps have made. It's a scum parade, Vinny and Carl going to tell you about some fuck shit.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Scum parade, like stories of a kid fucked by his mom or dad. Soaking up the blood of a cat scum parade. You know, Carl, I think I need to just go ahead and hit the, this because every story this week this has never happened before or Florida you got to get your shit to tell
Starting point is 01:00:25 why so many creepy bucks What's the hell going oh man? Maybe it's a swamp gas for a flagrant Ophietta get us come on for a gun all right ladies and gentlemen a florida woman is under arrest after police say they found a child and multiple animals living in squalid conditions this is not a cool scene
Starting point is 01:00:58 police in citrus county florida which really sounds lovely does yeah citrus county carl wants to buy property i'm in i found a place you could get cheap yeah uh fix her up right they responded to an animal cruelty call at the home of 38 year old shannon marie morgan When authorities of the Citrus County Sheriff's Office arrived on the scene, they were overwhelmed with the smell of ammonia inside the home and found several cages in glass aquariums, housing snakes and rodents, along with rats and cats that were loose running around the home. Authorities described it as slightly worse conditions than stuttering John's apartment.
Starting point is 01:01:31 That's how bad this is. They said, just like stuttering John's apartment, all of the animals have been deprived of basic necessities, and fecal matter and urine in the house in cages that caused an infestation, of roaches and other bugs. In addition to the squalor from the animals, authorities say trash, dirty dishes, and rotten food are scattered throughout the hole. Time out right there.
Starting point is 01:01:52 This is what I love about this article. It talks about fecal matter and urine and roaches. And they did it to the dishes. And the dishes are dirty. Can you believe it? No one's cleaned of these dishes? How lazy are these people? Get some elbow grease into it.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Let's go. What are we going to eat off of? There was a nest of rats inside of the dishwasher. Yeah. And one bedroom police officers found a ferret and a dog in cages that were too small for the animals and found a small child inside another bedroom who was surrounded by bug infested trash on the floor and a mattress. Investigators also say they found blood on the floor of one bedroom caused by a cat eating one of the rats. Well done, sir. Good job. Cats doing something. I got to say this is way scary in that stupid ghost story that I heard
Starting point is 01:02:38 and that's why we drink. Yes. This is an incredible scene and there was video of it on this article and it is horrific. The ghost couldn't fucking find the recliner.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Yeah, no, that ghost is running from this place. Like, oh, fuck this scene, I'm out. Authority said that there were more than 50 rats found inside cages with about 300 rats
Starting point is 01:03:00 robyed freely. That's the worst part. If you're one of the caged rats, like, oh, my cousins are out there. Why am I in here? What am I doing? Seven cats, one dog, one ferrette removed from the home, and the house was secured in order to facilitate the removal of the other remaining animals.
Starting point is 01:03:17 How does something like this happen, Vinnie? Capitalism. Oh, it's blame capitalism. I agree. Yeah. Okay. It's the patriarchy. Patriarchy? Yep. That's also a good answer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Patriarchy capitalism, really. Yeah. LGBTQ. White men allowed her to buy that many animals. That's the problem. You're right. Morgan has been arrested on. 12 counts of animal cruelty and one count of child neglect.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I feel like there should be more counts of child neglect there. Yeah. Total bond of $26,000. And fuck her. That's terrible. Yeah, it's pretty gross. Those rat, when I feel bad for a fucking rat in a cage, you know your place is shitty. I feel like there's a Billy Corgan joke somewhere in there, but I'll let that one keep going.
Starting point is 01:04:00 All right. Spring Hill, Florida. Carl. Yes. This story made me think about our conversation. last week. Okay. Where we talked about how if you walked by the window and saw someone looking at child porn,
Starting point is 01:04:14 would you call the police? Right. Yeah. And you're like, no, I wouldn't do anything. Correct. I said I would tap on the window like it was an aquarium. You're like, hey, stop it. What are you doing there?
Starting point is 01:04:21 I see you. I see you. By the way, the headline of this story starts off. Jok lands Hernando County man in jail. And I'm like, why isn't Chad Zubak in jail then? If you could get in jail for a bad joke. Because I was going to say, Chad's never told a joke. Oh, that's a good point.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Spring Yield, Florida. A man who planned to prank to prank his friend by changing the wallpaper on his phone made a disturbing discovery. Hernando County Sheriff's deputies say they received a call from a man after he found obscene material on a friend's phone. Long story short, this guy named Jody Fletcher goes over to his friend's house
Starting point is 01:04:55 and leaves his cell phone there. His friend looks at the phone, picks up and realize it's not password protected. Who the fuck doesn't password protect their phone, Vinnie? I've never heard of such a thing. Pitos who want to get caught apparently Carl. His friend's like, I'm going to take a funny picture and make it the background. So this guy's like taking a picture of his asshole. Yeah, right. And that he's like, or like a topless Vic
Starting point is 01:05:16 or something hilarious. Yeah. That picture of old meat tits. Fucking cousin Oliver with two fucking flopped fucking saggy turkey breasts hanging off the front of it. Wow. I don't know if you could say that. And a voice like fucking Satan's fart. Cousin Oliver still. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely cousin Oliver so he's like i got to put this picture my asshole as the screen saver on the background yeah so he opens up the photo gallery and he's like wait a second there's my asshole oh no a photo gallery filled with child porn yes wop waw he immediately called law enforcement detectives got a warrant found over 70 images of child porn fletcher declined to speak with detectives after being arrested and he thought
Starting point is 01:06:04 to himself, thank Christ I didn't leave my Zoom player over there. Dude, this is what I understand about this story. I mean, obviously the password protection thing is bizarre. I've never ever seen a phone that wasn't password protected. But wouldn't you continue with the jokes? So you grab your buddy's phone, you're going to make a silly wallpaper
Starting point is 01:06:20 for, um, be a fun little goof. And then you see he's got CP over it. I would change his wallpaper to CP, give him back his phone. That way he knows that you know. And now you can hold it over his head forever. That guy will do your bidding for the rest of his life. Oh, well, that was a great dinner.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I wonder who's picking up the tab. Yeah, exactly. Jody. Yeah, strategically, you could have played this a lot better, in my opinion. Well, jokes on Jody Fletcher. He is facing charges of possession of 10 or more child pornography images and use of a two-way device to facilitate a felony. This is why, as Jim Norton used to say, you need to have a good boy phone and a naughty boy phone. Got a good boy phone and a naughty boy phone.
Starting point is 01:07:02 The naughty boy phone is password protected. you do not leave it at your friend's house. Keep that in mind, everybody. More advice from Carl. Yes. Clearwater police have arrested a 36-year-old man named Chad Mason of Orlando. Wrong, Chad again. Close, though.
Starting point is 01:07:21 This is right by Tampa here. An incident occurred 4.30 p.m. on Sunday, December 4th. Mason took a known individual's golden doodle for a walk and proceeded to have sex with it in someone's front lawn. Uh-huh. several individuals, including a juvenile, witnessed the sex act. Yeah. And confronted him. 4.30 in the afternoon.
Starting point is 01:07:40 He's fucking a golden dude on a neighborhood. 4.30 on a Sunday. Someone's lawn. Out of the fucking holiest of holy days. It is defense. I looked this up. The Buccaneers had a Monday night game. So you didn't have anything else to do.
Starting point is 01:07:54 He was definitely keeping the Sabbath holy. Come on. Nothing? No. Zumak, you could use that. and took a known individual's gold doodle for the walk. This happens. Everybody sees him. He decides to run away.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Now, instead of just running and hiding like you should when you were caught, you know, fucking someone else's dog in public, he decided to have a little bit of a fun time. He caused the destruction of a nativity scene in a nearby church. He ripped a mailbox off a residence property and attempted to steal an unoccupied vehicle. He was identified by witnesses and quickly taken into custody by officers. had booked into Pinellas County Jail on the following charges. Criminal mischief? Yep.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Check. Sexual activity involving animals? Sure. Lude or lascivious exhibition. Check. Check. Exposure of sexual organs. Check.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Criminal mischief to a place of worship. Now, that's where I draw the line. You don't get to have the distinction just because you're a church. Dude, I have to say, if you do, if you fuck up somebody's property, it's somebody's property. It doesn't matter that it's the churches. This crime spree started out funny because it was a golden doodle. If you're going to fuck a dog and golden doodles a funny one to fuck. But then it just gets funnier and funnier as it goes.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Like, fucking bust up the activity scene. hilarious. What he should have done, though. This guy's fucking kicking baby Jesus with dog shit on his dick. He's wiping the dog shit from his dick off on baby Jesus. I'd fucking Mary's dress. It's just fucking hilarious. His dick smells like the fucking manger.
Starting point is 01:09:25 One of the wise men forgot to bring somebody. He's like, here, have some dog shit from my dick as a gift. It's better than mur. Gold frankincense and a little bit. of Fido feces. So it starts off very funny. It gets funnier, but they really should have been
Starting point is 01:09:38 an upper decker in the church toilet, don't you think? Wouldn't have that really sealed? Like, you need to have like a climax, a closing act. Yeah, I hope it ends like the end of Louis
Starting point is 01:09:47 with Florentine doing the helper decker. Yeah. All right, so he's in trouble. See, some people try to punch up other people's jokes. I try to punch up their crime sprees.
Starting point is 01:09:55 I'm like, this is how this could have been funnier, sir. Yeah. You'll know in the future. You're a regular Jamie Lissau. You're a punch-up man. A heartless Florida man,
Starting point is 01:10:03 allegedly broke into a home. Alexander Hernandez Delgado, 25 of a charge with aggravated cruelty to animals with a weapon and armed burglary and a break-in and a Dover home. So he broke into this house in Tampa Bay. Yes. He started walking around the house and for some reason, my story
Starting point is 01:10:19 disappeared. Holy shit. Sorry, Carl, I got it right here. Okay. Sorry, by the way, this guy looks a lot like Lorenzo Ariel. I was going to point that out. This is like Lorenzo's cousin, Alexander Hernandez Delgado.
Starting point is 01:10:35 He allegedly entered the premises through an unlocked living room door. Apparently, he was very hungry and went into the kitchen and made himself a lot of food. Apparently, he ate a bunch of their shit. Okay. And then he started throwing their shit around the house, as one does. The homeowner reported that when they got home, they saw the suspect strolling out of the house wearing one of their hats. Like, he just stole some of his hat.
Starting point is 01:10:59 You need a souvenir. Now, this guy sounds kind of charming. I mean, he made a sandwich and stole a hat. Yep. Not too mad at him. Well, police then discovered that the family's puppy had been stabbed to death with the machete and left inside a crate near the living room door. Now, I have to tell you, Vinny, this is very bad for crate training. You want the dog to feel safe in the crate.
Starting point is 01:11:19 You want the dog to go to the crate. Yes. And feel safe there. You do not, never stab your dog while it's in the crate. We need the more you know jingle. We do for that one. That was some pretty good. advice from me just now.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Deputies found Hernando Delgado at a nearby Dollar General said he admitted to being inside the dwelling. And unfortunately this is not the first case of animal cruelty that they had seen lately. This gentleman also has a history
Starting point is 01:11:48 of violent behavior. Oh, no shit. You're telling me the man who owns a machete has a history of violent behavior. You know what, Minnie, I don't have a history of violent behavior. You know what I don't own a machete? I own zero machetes in life you think that golden doodle was just like oh i got off easy no after here's this story
Starting point is 01:12:08 cold don't took a fucking and then this one just got stabbed at that i think i'd rather be standing up my grate then brought for a walk and then fucked by some weird out oh dude just smelling a lawn and then how do you do so uh ladies and gentlemen that's this week's skumper by the way not only were they all florida they're almost all like animal cruelty shit yeah florida's not as great as people seem to be making it out wow It's not going to stop me. I'm going. Please get gone. So, folks, that is the scum parade this week.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Super chat Monday. Let's do it, Carl. Let's get through some super chats here. I think we saw a few come through. I heard a bell or two. Gina Leffey's Bull. Yeah. For $1.90.
Starting point is 01:12:49 I said, can we get an update on the Brent Tommy M-S-C-S drama, Carl? Yeah, that's interesting because that kind of, well, Brent was very upset that I had mentioned that he reached out to Tommy to get starting John's number and that voicemail that we heard was actually a voicemail to Brent from John Melendez and Brent denied all of this but from what I've heard he just got busted and decided to start lying now I kind of let that go because I don't know all of the facts of it the guy who told me that that's what happened has never lied to me before but I also if I could be mistaken I don't know all the answers I don't want to ruin Shulie and Brent's relationship.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Also, it also sounded kind of stupid anyway. Yeah. Like, who gets the shit if he's trying to get in touch with John or not? It's a difference. Doesn't change my world. I like that Shulie has friends who are jealous of not on the Uncle Rico show. Guys like, Brian, I'm like, oh, come on. I want to goof on John.
Starting point is 01:13:45 No, you like him too much, Brad. I'm not allowed to. You can't be on the show. You want to talk to him, for real. All right. Chris Primer, $10. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Chris.
Starting point is 01:13:55 He said, I had a wonderful conversation with our beloved chatter last week. She mentioned their spouse is taking well to the chemo And said to tell everybody to send more superchats I denounce it Do you have the super chat song? Is there a super chat song? I want more super chats Oh, give me all those super chats
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