The Creep Off - Episode 146: The Curse of Papa Shango

Episode Date: January 2, 2023

This week Karl spins the wheel, the scoreboard is reset, and we start the new game with a wildcard round.Check out the stories from this week's Scum Parade here:Texas man dressed as woman arrested for allegedly photographing women in bathroom, brandishing pepper ball gun (yahoo.com)Palm Beach man, 41, impregnated a 13-year-old, cops say. He blames the rape on voodoo (yahoo.com)Tadashi Kojima Charged with Kidnapping Utah Child (lawandcrime.com)Man accused of trying to gouge out Utah bus driver’s eye because he’s Asian (yahoo.com)

Hey everyone, welcome to Andrew Tate's favorite podcast, Pizza and Prostitutes, or as we call it, The Creepoff. I feel like crap today, so it's all going to be Andrew Tate jokes because they're a low-hanging fruit. The premise is simple. You go to the subreddit, you vote. After five votes, loser has consequences. Consequences could be something like knife chops from some tough guy, or arguing with a 19-year-old girl who's falling into a relevancy online leading to your own arrest. Okay, on to the creeps. Now, Carl brought in a guy who killed an 11-month-old chite. but the child was a girl so according to Huzzlers University that's probably okay Vinny brought in Andy Dick who molested men which is not alpha behavior that's very beta of him finally Brian Johnson brought in a trad dad who decided to spy on his

daughter and she killed him why that makes him a creep Andrew Tate doesn't know anyways that's all I got go Jags Tucker out attention parents what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, coo, coo. Wild car, bitches! Yeah! It's a disgusting, vomit-inducing thing.

Ola creepos. Welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps. Spy creeps for you creeps. I'm your host. My name is Vinny. The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour. The people's champion. Vinnie Barreto.

And joining me is Baby New Year 2023. It's Carl. What is happening? Vinnie Paulino. How you do it, buddy? I could be better. The question is, how are you doing? I am fantastic.

You know, normally I don't root for the Patriots. I, you know, for many, many years. We had Tom Brady, Bill Belichick. A lot of reasons to root again. But yesterday, what a dynamic team. What a performance out of those Patriots, huh? Wow. Remember?

I don't care. Oh, really? Okay. I remember after week three. Oh, Carl. I do remember week three first place. All this is fun talk that was going on. Carl, I need you to understand something.

Yeah, buddy. The wheel is behind you. It is. You're not going to bring me down. Okay. Okay. Brose. Whatever the fuck, however that song goes.

Gotcha, buddy. You're not. breaking me down today because you're spinning that fucking wheel because I beat you. All right. Well, I, we have to talk about, yes, you did. Come up. Me with the fucking.

And you did. Please. I think Vinnie, this is the first time if I'm wrong. I beat you and a guess. Our guests came in third place. We both beat our guests. Sorry, Brian. I think this is the first time that's happened, right?

Ladies and gentlemen, when Brian Johnson was such a good guest on the show. I loved him on the show. He was fantastic. Creep sucked. People weren't into it, I guess. I don't necessarily think that those photos existed. Listen, I think that they did.

But anyway, that's not the point. The point is, I'm not going to be a sore loser. I've been Googling and Googling. I am not going to be a sore loser today, even though you picked a creep that did shit not in 2022, like was the category. The van shit. It happened in 2022. Yeah, that was one of the things. That was not.

And then he was stealing power tools. That was one of the things. Creep of the year. Yeah, exactly. Brian picked a guy who was up to no good before he wasn't even alive in 2022. I'm the only one who brought someone who did shit in 2022. Uh-huh. By default, I should know what, but I'm not, listen, I had no sour grapes.

Great. If I didn't lose this week, I would have lost next. So whatever. What are you going to do? I love that attitude. Sometimes you've got to spin the wheel in this life, right? Vinnie. You're fucking telling me, brother.

Sometimes the wheel spins you. So what are you going to do? In the, on the creep. off the wheel spins you. Yeah. So, look, it's a great way to start 20, 23 for me. By making you, I'm hoping to land on that one spot. I get my Patreon money back, though. That's true. Either way, you do get your Patreon money back.

So congratulations on that, buddy. I guess I won't beat. By the way, I've lost something like seven football bets in a row. I lost every game on Christmas. I lost both college playoff games. I was doing terrible yesterday. I had a 5-te parlay. The Eagles! The Eagles!

what's going on with them I will pull back I've been losing all of your money as my points I'm not neither of what's happened I just lost my own money I never gamble but you begged me to be in your fantasy fucking football league

because you needed a person this year I put the money down and I was kicking everybody's ass all year you were yes now I'm playing for third place this week I believe and I didn't look at my bench in time and apparently I started Tua yesterday

So there goes my fucking money. Oh, boy. God damn it. Third place, you get your money back. Fourth place, you get zero. That's too bad. Yeah, well. Ah, darn it.

People love our riveting fantasy football talk. You know what? Why are we doing fantasy football talk on Super Chat Monday? Dude, thank you for remembering. Today is a holiday. It is Super Chat Monday. Please send in your Super Chats as you watch along. We are live every Monday at 1 p.m.

Or around there. Yep. Or around there. pretty close usually i'm going to make a comment on something here really quickly today someone said oh carl's late again no carl was on time today i made him late because i was jibber jabbering yeah we were we maybe i should get here a little bit early deal with you catch up when he wanted to talk about football before the the podcast i'm like nope i want to take the sting out i was trying to do it for the listeners i want to talk about

it on the show uh the don't care about that game i care about this game that we play will the dolphins make the playoffs they're eight and eight they have an outside chance what you think okay here's why this sucks you know why this sucks right i fucking hate buffalo so got to much okay if miami beats the jets next week they should and buffalo beats new england next week if the buffalo loses tonight and they beats new england next week no buffalo doesn't have to lose tonight okay if buffalo just beats new england next week miami's in okay i see yeah okay so we're rooting for the bills I really that really I hate to say

I'm gonna half the route for Buffalo as I told you I'll come over and watch that game with you we'll go celebrate together okay as I told you best case scenario for Miami is to be playing in Buffalo in January and I was correct about that now you're hoping that happens and let me tell you something yeah

we're gonna whip your ass all right bro you say we're gonna I ain't scared it's gonna be the longest walk to your locker room ever I ain't scared buddy I'd love to play the dolphins dude who is fucking concussed that would be if the bill is to play the dolphins

that'd be like two by weeks You should have heard me screaming in the bar yesterday. Eight Nate, Tua. Eight Nate, Tua, you're going to murder your family in 20 years for eight. Dude, Tua, I don't know that he comes back from this, man. This has been a rough year for him. He should not. Not good.

I think you should just say thank you, good night. Unless you make it to the playoffs, we got to play Buffalo. He's feeling okay. That Tua, get out of the field. Sounds good. All right, let's get into the game, right? Yeah. So what do we do whenever someone has to spin the wheel?

which we will at the end of this episode. We reset the round. We reset the round. We're zero-zero and we start with a wild card. Wild card, bitches! Yeah! Which Vinny loves because there's no end of people who murder and eat children that he can bring to the board. So, what's, are you ready to get into it, buddy?

Am I? You ready to present your creep? I have bells on. My creep today is from a sleepy English verb named Killamon. in a town of northeast Derbyshire, which borders Sheffield and South Yorkshire, for anybody who gives a fuck. You're really paying a map there, thanks. Mike Creep today is a former cage fighter, Carl. His name is Damien Blendal.

Now, in the fall of 2021, Damien had some legal trouble and was serving a 24-month suspended sentence for arson and was already in the probation system for here's the list. Arson, robbery, attempted robbery, and grievous bodily harm. All of them convictions. Okay. So he's got a little bit of a record. Now, he's got a Zumach like record, yes. Yeah, he's not doing well, but he's out. He's out and he's free.

He was living with his pregnant girlfriend, Terry Harris. She's 35. Her son, John, who's 13, the daughter, Lacey, both from Terry's previous relationships. Now, I'm not going to spend. Who's she pregnant with now, though, the... His baby. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

So on September 19th, 2021, Lacey's 11-year-old friend, Connie Grant, Gent, they were having a sleepover party at the house so it's the two daughters it's the son it's the pregnant mom all in the house and around 930 Damien had done what he said was three to four bags of cocaine while he was smoking weed okay now that's not a great choice I don't know what three to four bags of cocaine means but it was anything like cocaine that I've seen that's way too much cocaine that's a lot of cocaine that's way too much so So, yeah, it's so much cocaine that the next thing you know, old Damien, had taken a claw hammer to the skull of his pregnant girlfriend. He fucking bashed her brains in.

Splat! In their bedroom. Okay. How's she doing, she all right? Oh, very dead. Okay. This guy was a cage fighter, remember? Yeah.

So he just went fucking crazy. That's not the real consequences, is it? All right. Sorry, good. Fight this guy in jail. Yeah. So, Damien went fucking crazy for some reason. He claims he blacked out.

Now, for some reason. I'm glad that he kept it quiet, though, because they were having their sleepover party. So what do you do after you murder your pregnant girlfriend and you got three kids in the house? Order pizza. One of them, not yours. Order pizza, of course. Rent him, videotape. Yep. Get something off Netflix, gets a pizza.

Sure. No. No. He went to a little John's room to tuck him in permanently with Mr. Clawhammer. Oh, boy. Little 13-year-old Jod's head was bashed the fucking badly. Apparently, he started attacking him in his bedroom and was hitting him with a claw hammer and the kid tried to run into the bathroom.

That's where they found him. So not great. Then, next up was the friend, little Connie Gent who was spending the night at the house, lucky her. Yeah. Worst part of this, she was originally supposed to be there for one night. And then the kids did the things. Can I please stay for another night?

Can I please stay? Oh, so much fun the first time. Yeah. Yeah. That'll teach that kid. Uh-huh. Let that be a lesson to you. Go home.

Look, my stepdad's good for like one night, but the second night, it gets a little restless, starts doing the blow. Uh, man, Carl, I hated sleepovers when I was a kid. Yeah. I find it very weird to be in anyone else's house.

I don't like it. Dude, you have a lot of weird hangups. You don't like to be touched. You don't want to be in someone else's house? Yeah. I never wanted to sleep in anybody else's house ever. What's your deal? That's kind of weird, right?

I don't know. I don't think it's weird. You wet the bed or something? Never. Not a bed wetter at all. Not a bed wetter. Okay. But legitimately, I just could not handle, like, trying to sleep somewhere else for a long time.

All right. I couldn't sleep in hotel rooms until, like, my mid-20s. Huh. Really? Yeah, I would be up all day. I would just be, like, trying to sleep. I don't know. I'm weird.

Is it because you read too-much-to-crime shit? probably most likely most likely so where were we we were talking about little connie gent and uh she was in the guest room brains bash the fuck in wait the two girls don't sleep in the same room together well she they found her in the guest room we don't know what happened yeah i was gonna say that that's not normally how sleepovers work oh it's 1030 all right everyone to their respective rooms well good seeing yeah at that point that leaves little lacy sure who Damien, according to the forensics, got a hold of in the living room. That's where he raped her the first time.

And started beating her again with the claw hammer. While she's still alive, he takes her back up to the bedroom where her dead mother is laying on the floor with her brains bashed. This is going great. He throws her on the bed, then repositioned a mirror in the room so he could fuck this child in the doggy style position. then he leaves her on the bed to die now carl at that point what do you do now well i'll tell you what that's exactly right what any coke i'll tell you you go get more blow yeah so he just realized he's like man i just blew through three to four bags of coke and four humans right yes i need more coke and more humans what do i need to do so he's like ah

I got it. John doesn't need that Xbox anymore. Okay. So he took the kid's Xbox, went to a pod shop, pawned it, when bought more blow. Now, the next morning, Carl, he has some type of phone conversation with his mother where he sounds kind of erratic. Sure. Everything's fine. Everything's fine.

Everything's weird. Like, just crazy kind of a phone call. So the mother calls the police to go check on him. Here is the video of the police. least finding Damien the next morning after the lovely massacre that I just described to you. Here's the cops meeting Damien. Come to me. May, have you got anything on you that you shouldn't have?

No, there's no weapons or nothing. Right. Do you just want them to do your coat? Have you armed yourself? Yeah. Have you stabbed yourself, mate? I can see, see blood on your hands. Yeah.

Not his. Anywhere else? Just my chest, four inches in with a bread knife. Can we have a look? Yeah. One on the stomach. I bed quite... Right, do you...

Very calm. Yeah. No, no, no, just stay there. Stay there. I just don't want to be in front of everyone. Alright, just round the corner. Just walking wounded at the minute. All right.

Stand here, stand here, stand here. See you. Right. We're told you, I know what's going to happen to you now, mate. Well, I know it's going to go to prison, obviously, again. Why, what have you done? Have you done something to anyone else? Yeah.

What have you done? No, there's four people. Oh, alright. He's like, well... The jig is up. well i don't know he doesn't have very good improv skills there but i wouldn't play that music what a great he goes so we're going to take care of you now here's what's going to happen i know it's going to happen now i'm going to prison again that was his start going to prison again well why did you do something

to somebody else yeah murdered for people yeah about time you got here so the great news ladies and gentlemen on december 21st of 2022 just about a week and change ago he was given a whole life sentence, which means under no circumstances is this motherfucker getting out. All right. Now, it has emerged that the probation officer, who is in charge of Damien because he was out on a suspended sentence, has been fired. The probation officer was found guilty of gross misconduct after erroneously categorizing Bedell as a medium risk rather than a high risk before they released him from prison.

They also fired that guy's supervisor. And the house that this whole thing happened in was such a fucking. bloodbath blood seed sure they tore the whole thing down yeah they're like we can't there's nothing we could do with this yeah they must have a equivalent of like a carfax accident report for homes right you look up the zillow or whatever just like how many people were slain here four and the youngest was 12 yeah i don't think we want this one let's look at another uh two stories somewhere else what they do is they show the crime scene photos and then they let you do like what loz does you could pick different wall colors to make it look all pretty i love it yeah interactive

but holy shit this guy fucking not good a problem although i have to say though kudos to england so when they let somebody out who shouldn't be let out and then they do horrible things they go huh that was bad we shouldn't do that again whereas in this country we we whatever and then they go find the person who was responsible for letting be out and they fired him that's that's shocking to me that usually not happening in san frantic time soon i believe that in california you get promoted Yeah, correct, exactly. They only murdered four. That's pretty good, Chair.

You're the supervisor now. Yeah. But that story when I read it, originally when I found that video, was because I was just looking through crime stuff and then gangrenously sent it to me too. And I started reading the details. I don't like Alex is working for you behind the scenes.

No, no. I, we were going to use it for the scum parade. Okay. And then I started reading the details. I was like, oh, no, no, no, no. This guy is a fucking problem. Pretty bad. This guy's a creep.

He should be your vote this week for the biggest creep. Well, I'm pretty sure, though, that the parents of the girl who were over there aren't beating themselves up at all. I bet you they were fucking having wine. I bet they're not second-guessing themselves or anything. They're probably feeling pretty good about this. Could you imagine, like, thinking, oh, a night without Connie. This is going to be great.

They're the ones with the Netflix on. They're the ones who ordered the pizza. Yeah, it's pants off time in that household two nights in a row. Yeah, they were just fucking as their daughter was beat to death of the hammer. I mean, we were all implying that. You don't have to come out and say it. They were having sex with each other. I saw it.

All right. Carl, beat that. All right. You ready for mine? I have a fun creep this week for us, Vinny, because it's fresh in the news. Oh, are you picking George Santos? I am not picking George Santos. Let's first talk about the victims because the victims are what really makes this person a creep.

Reep. University of Idaho roommates, Kaylee Consolvius, Madison Mogan, Zana Carnado, as well as Carnado's boyfriend, Ethan Chapin, were all stabbed to death in the girls off-campus house. You know about this story, Vinny? I've been, I'm waiting for the details to come out. Ethan Chapin, whatever, but the three girls, these college students, between the ages of 20 and 21, very attractive girls, many. Have you seen photos or videos of these women? I did. Yes. They are very, very cute. Yes, and these are the types of college students, so they live in this party house. They have bright futures ahead of them. Bright futures ahead of them, including, I guarantee you, something would have leaked to Porn Hub that we all could have enjoyed. Two of the three might have had an only fan.

Yes, exactly. So that's why this is a tragedy. That's why Brian Coburger is such a creep that he would do something like this. Now, what happened was these murders occurred back in November, and for weeks nobody knew what, happened. There's six people in the house. Four of them were stabbed to death. The two others who survived didn't even know what happened. They didn't hear anything. They didn't know anything. There were no leads, no suspects. Everyone was wondering, how does this happen? It was actually the other two roommates. A lot of people were accusing them maybe. Yeah,

of course they were. Because how do you not know? That's the nightmare, man. Do you know how many movies they made of that nightmare waking up in the middle of a crime scene and actually legitimately not knowing what happened? Correct. That's what happened to these people. That's awful. All right. So let's talk about our suspect here, Brian. Our sources within the FBI are saying that Brian Koberger, again, 28 years old. He was highly educated, Terry. In fact, he had a master's degree in criminology from DeSales University there in Pennsylvania, but also attended Washington State University in Pullman, Washington,

which is just less than 10 miles away here from Moscow, Idaho. That's right. This is a grad student working on his Ph.D. at Washington State University and Vinnie I brought a fun treat for you today I brought Nancy Grace's take on this now Nancy Grace was interviewed Happy New Year

Nancy Grace was interviewed to tell us more about what this guy's studying in school Murder I'm going out two things This guy has got a master's degree in criminology He's currently working on a PhD in criminal justice

Yet he drove the getaway car all the way and parked it outside of mommy's house are you kidding me yeah what an idiot so this guy

what he did was he committed these murders got away with it his dad flew in from Pennsylvania they're from Pennsylvania his dad flew in one way to meet him in Washington State and then they drove the car

all the way back to Pennsylvania this was in December that this happened so yes we knew about that car there were images of it but it's not like driving all the way to Pennsylvania is the dumbest thing

you can do, right? I would think that you'd want to get it out of that area. I agree. Nancy Grace calls everything stupid. If he had found a way to, like, have the car demolished into a cube. Yeah. She would have like, that moron. What an idiot. So, this is, Nancy Grace is shot out of the cannon. I don't even

know what point she's trying to make here. This is hilarious. She doesn't either, Carl. I know, I can tell. Another thing we know about this guy. He has been described as obsessively vegan to the point that he made his parents. get rid of their pots and pans. Oh, no. The bake process and the dishwasher wasn't enough.

They had to buy new pants that had never touched meat. What does that tell me? He is obsessive. He is fastidious. He's about six feet tall. He's socially awkward. He planned this whole thing out. Did you notice the charges? He didn't go into steel. He didn't go into rape anybody. He went into that home with the intent to kill. How long had he been watching these girls? And as we speak, Jason, they are tearing his Pullman apartment apart. So she's just like yelling things out. Did you know he's a vegan? Did you know he's six feet tall?

He definitely did it. His parents bought new pants. What's the point of any of this, Nancy? What point he tried to make here? He's fastidious. Well, that he's guilty, obviously. What the fuck you're talking about? You know, that's a terrible, like, trait to have throat in your face.

Like, usually people, you think that's a good trait in someone. Yeah, I would think so. What does that tell you that he made? That's the studious motherfucker. He made his pairs by new pants. What does that tell you? It tells me he's six feet tall. What?

All right. Let's hear a little bit more from Nancy because she starts accusing him of things I think are fun. But the nice thing about Nancy Gray's. I know we've had our fun. I know that you're actually a fan is she'll just fucking say anything. Well, that's what I love. That's why I'm a fan. I know.

It doesn't matter how fun. famous she is, the fact that she has this huge platform, she'll just like, fucking she'll just say whatever. Single, which she is. As a matter of fact, there's no indicia of a girlfriend and ex, a fiance. Even a high school girlfriend hasn't

been dug up yet. So, is this guy an in cell? What was his motivation? And let me remind everybody, the state doesn't even have to prove motivation. So, she's accusing him a vegan. He's a vegan insal. What else you need to know? obviously all right so our favorite thing that nancy does what's our favorite thing that she does

uh my favorite thing that she does she gets the loved ones of a relative on their show well that's true but this is just an interview on another oh does she make this about herself she makes it about her okay she interrupts the person interviewing her to make it about her i bought new pants last week at walmart i shop there because i hope that the parents have some degree of closure and something in their heart and their family members that they get Some degree of closure. Wait a minute, sir. There's no such thing as closure.

This guy will probably end up with a life sentence unless a jury comes to their sentences and gives them the death penalty. These families, and I know as being a victim of violent crime, you get a life sentence for the rest of your life, wondering what your loved one went through at the time of their death. It will never be over for them. There is no closure for these families. there was no closure to the bullet holes of my fiance's head yes she loves bringing that up

that was the 70s right when that happened minnie the 70s she's still fucking bringing that shit up Jesus Christ Nancy get over it I don't want to tell you how to grieve but fucking get over it all right you know usually people are happy to dodge a bullet right not Nancy that guy literally dodged a bullet by not dodging a bullet all right so this guy Colberger It's a very interesting case. Information's coming out as we speak. But this guy was studying criminal justice. He's getting his Ph.D. in criminology.

And when he was doing his research for a research paper in school, he sent out these questionnaires to people that are a little suspect now that we look back. Listen to some of these questions he was asking. Quote, why do you choose the victim or target over others? Did you prepare for the crime before leaving your home? What was the first move you made in order to accomplish? accomplish your goal. After arriving, what steps did you take prior to locating the victim or target? How do you leave the scene? Hmm. Sounds a little odd to me.

What did you do that you fucked up and got caught? What would you do differently if you were to say, do that again? All right. So apparently what this guy was doing, Vinnie, is he's been stalking chicks at bars in this area in Idaho near this university. Cool. Yeah. Investigators have still not given a motive. for this attack, but there are reports the alleged killer had a habit of stalking young girls in bars. Now, electronic fingerprints are hard to conceal mobile phones, constantly sending and receiving signals, which also include location and officials say that data has been discovered

pinpointing the killer's location to areas near the victims in the weeks leading up to that fatal attack almost two months ago. So I think these women were guilty of having way too much fond, is going to be my guess, because I've seen videos of them, they're all having so much fun, they're all loving a life, they're out of bars, they're getting blasted. There was, um... Well, this will teach you, young ladies of the future. Yes, there was police cam footage from September

where they had to go to their house twice for noise complaints because they're just having way too much fun. So this guy, he's in grad school. He's studying all the time. He's not having any fun. These sexy girls won't quiet down with the pillow fights. I'm trying to study and they're practicing kissing. I'm trying to get my work done.

I'm fastidious. Correct. In fact, there was an interview with... with one of the bar owners around there. We had to kick this guy out because he was hitting on the employees there. He was saying he has like two or three beers and then he starts getting real gropey.

And so he seems to be a problem. Now, don't hit on the bartenders. Don't hit on the servers. No, unless you're in a strip club, then those are the people to hit on. Don't hit on the strippers. You're allowed to touch them. Yes, hit on the bartenders and the waitresses

and the strip club. But you got real creepy with your face this now. I was trying to get people throw it out of strip clothes I could tell you were actually giving me your best advice for once wear sweatpants

of course there's a discord server that this guy's involved in and this goes to the earlier stories about how on Reddit he was asking people

about the perfect crime and stuff like that you know reportedly he would he was wearing after the murders he was wearing gloves

to the grocery store he was trying not to have any fingerprints and stuff like that I believe it was Discord they reported it as Reddit on there. They probably don't know the difference. Yeah.

I'm sure that it wasn't just vegan recipes they were sharing the disgusting on the discord. It's interesting, though. He was wearing gloves for weeks after that went down when he would go places. Like he was very concerned about his fingerprints. You know how they caught this guy, Minnie? How? So DNA. He was walking around wearing gloves at the supermarket.

Cops on. It's like, come here, I got to talk to you. So because there's no motive and nobody puts him anywhere near this house. basically what happened was the DNA evidence they were able to collect they could connect to his family members because one of those family members did that stupid 23 and me thing that you should never ever do because you're putting yourself in a database never ever do that and that's how they were able to connect it to this guy and then of course they found the car and they have this other evidence of him stalking all the bars and doing all this stuff leading up to this wow I know the craziest thing is I don't know if you know about this many but this guy called into a podcast that was talking about this crime. And I don't know what his motivation was. I don't know if it was like to plant the seed that there's probably somebody else who did this. But this is crazy.

Now, the host of this podcast has come out and said, I don't know that this was Brian talking to me. He used a different name. He said it was David. But a girl he went to high school with said, no, I've listened to this. That's definitely Brian. this is definitely the murder suspect that you're going to hear on this podcast i live in a college town and i've worked with uh probably at least 10 sigma kai members and you know the one thing that every single one of them i i feel like has asked me is if you were going to kill somebody

how would you get away with it and I just wonder if maybe, if maybe this is nothing more than some kid in a fraternity trying to prove himself. And that was it. What? So according to him, 10 different kids from this fraternity all asked him, like, how do you get away with murder? And we're supposed to think like, oh, because they asked you that, then one of them decided to try to get away with murder, which proved themselves, how does that make any sense? Because you can't tell anyone. Getting away with murder means you don't tell anyone.

So how are you proving yourself? That doesn't make sense. None of that makes sense. So the hosts are like, wait, what are you saying here? What do you mean by this? I'm really trying to think about how, like, what kind of fucking fraternity, fucking CW evening tween television fraternity would be like, we're going to have the pact that to join you have to be a killer.

Right. What a fucking crazy thought. Correct. And the host says that too, but listen to this. to get he literally spells that out for us i know that's the thing that just like maybe people say trying to like have interesting conversation but like just in my head it's like this is it's always been these these dudes that were in in the fraternity and and so it makes me wonder if it's a thing that it's in their in their like culture that they ask to see how smart you are and whatever

and what kind of answer you come up with and someone took it too far oh wow who what what kind of dudes would ask you that yeah good question whoa that's that's crazy as shit man that's a that's an outrageous statement man i'm i'd bite their names down yeah man like i like i like you know i like horror movies and all that kind of stuff and I'll watch those kind of things but like when someone like in person says some stuff like that it's kind of like jarring it's like what

why are you saying stuff like that? Have you ever heard that it's in the fraternity's culture to want to get away with murder before this is just nonsense that he's spouting here. Were you ever in a fraternity? I was not no. Yeah me neither. You know what though?

Honest to God Carl if I had a fraternity and I started when you would totally be allowed to be Oh, thanks, buddy. You know why? Why's that? I would make the pledges eat shit off of your feet. You're a bad person. You're a very bad person.

I like horror movies and all that type of stuff, but when someone says that to you, it's jarring. Yeah, it is. What a fucking weird phone call to make. I'm sorry, I'm mentally distracted by the thought of college kids eating Cheetos from between your toes. I'm sorry. People are like, you know what?

Fuck it. I don't need this. I don't need this shit Fuck this shit I don't need friends Can you just tie a brick around my cock And I'll drop it off the side of the building Can we just do something easy like that

Can I kill those hot girls over there down the street All right so before you vote everyone Please Google Kaylee Maddie and Zana Check these women out And you tell me Who is the bigger creep this week I say Brian Koeberger

go to our subreddit to vote for who you think the biggest group is. Well, two of the three kids that my guy, Damien Bendal, killed were pretty good looking. Your story's over. Pretty good looking. They were like 12. Oh, I'm just saying that they had a chance to be something. Two of the three. So, Vinnie's argument is that these chicks would have been hot.

Okay. But I think you're the creep. I'm going to add you as a third option for who the creep is this week. You know, let me point this out. On the creepoff.com, there is a running pole on there as it was creepier, Carl or Vinny. And you, sir, are running away with that. I'm meeting by a lot. Yeah, I don't think.

I don't think I'm going to catch up. No, probably not. All right, Vinny. Are you ready for our favorite segment of the show, or at least my favorite segment of the show? Oh, wait. It's time for who are these creepos? That's right. This is the segment I feel like I just did with you.

That's right, Vinny. This is the part of the show where we like to break down another true crime podcast because we are petty. While we know we're the best true crime podcast on the internet, we need to prove it. And we do that by knocking another podcast down one at a time. And hopefully hurting their feelings. With a who are these creepos segment. And this week, I have for you, not another true crime podcast, a suggestion that came in from Nathan Strigau. Thank you, Nathan, for the suggestion.

The name of it is not another true crime podcast. Correct. You like that? Okay. That movie was terrible. And that movie was from, I don't know, late 90s, 25 years ago. Right.

Yeah. What are you doing, idiots? This is a show hosted by Sarah Levine and Danny Murphy. One of the things I want to point out right away, one of the formulas of these successful true crime shows is the guy, and girl usually it's a girl and girl but if it's a guy and girl the guy has to be very flamboyantly gay that's the winning formula for these types of shows now find winning it's do it's okay it's on this network called betches media which has a bunch of shows i've never heard of any of them

i don't know what the deal is batches betches like bitches with an e and let me read you the description of the show betches media presents a podcast for people who who all types of sketchy things, from cults to conspiracy theories to, of course, crime with a healthy dose of irreverent humor. Your co-host, Sarah Levine, and Danny Murphy give the lowdown on one morbidly fascinating topic per episode. They'll present the facts of each case, punctuated with jokes and side tangents, along with their own personal theories. Now, when I see side tangents, that is a red flag for me. I go, uh-oh. So these people get off topic easily, and they celebrate it.

They think that's a good thing. I'm going to tell you what, though. I hate that. I'm impressed that there's no, like, booze involved in this one. Oh, you'd be wrong. You would be wrong, Mr. Polito. So the episode that I checked out, this suggestion that came in, there was another person on this show named Casey.

So she was like a third co-host back in, this is December of 2019, when this came out. Yeah, strange. She had a lot of thoughts on dirt. No, not that, Casey. Not that one, Vinny. So it starts off. And by the way, I should point out the hypocrisy that's going on right now as we started the show talking about the dolphins and week three

and what the standings were, that your fantasy league. So I understand that. But trust me, we got to the fucking meat and potatoes of this podcast way quicker than these people do. This takes them forever. It starts off with them singing, Vinnie. Happy. holidays and welcome to Not Another True Crime Podcast

Thank you Happy holiday Every holiday Oh my god you guys have to sing the whole episode You know that right That's our thing Do you have to ask us once? I know I'm like pretty much

I realized that as I was just couldn't stop singing everything I was doing in my house today That's how I process It is like that's how I get through my day It is how I talk to myself Couch making a sandwich I'm gonna turn on the TV I'm just like bitch you are late again

You will be fired by the Don't you love people who just started singing for no reason, Vinny? Isn't that a great trait to have? What a fun personality trait that is. They released that? This is how they start this episode. They heard that and they released that. Yeah, they didn't edit it out.

I would have. I would have, I would have, A, edited it out and B, murdered my co-hosts. But that's just me. What do I know about anything? Coke and a hammer. It's all I do. Yes, correct. Three or four bags of Coke is all I need.

Last episode, people. By the way, you and Sarah have something in common. I'm a stand-up comedian, you guys. It's called comedy. Ever heard of it? Ever heard of it? Okay. Yeah, everybody's a stand-up comedian.

It's great. Did you happen to hear, I don't mean to put you on the spot, but on the latest WATP, Tom Myers released his latest stand-up set, and we broke down the whole thing? No. Okay, yeah. Thank you for not inviting me to come listen to it. You'll enjoy it. You'll enjoy that because.

Does you get any jokes? actual jokes off. Tom Myers explains how he has to tell other comedians about joke structure. It's one of the most insane things you've ever heard in your life. The fact that he would talk about understanding proper joke structure, a guy who proves over and over again that he doesn't, and it's the same thing with this woman going, I'm a stand-up comic, I'm so funny, I'm so funny.

You're not doing a good job of demonstrating what you're saying right now. You're actually making it seem like the opposite. What's this girl's name? Of what you're saying. That would be Sarah Levine, would be. All right. We're going to do real time research. We're going to be one of those shows. I'm doing it right now because I want to see if she's a real comic.

Okay. She's not. So Thank you. All right. Guess what? What? They're drinking all right. Yeah, we're all here today. As you can tell by the fact that we're already off the rails, two minutes in, less. Yeah. That's how it's happened. Yeah, we didn't even. Well, Danny had a glass of wine, but we just held a glass of wine

the rest of us to take a photo and we're wild. I had a glass of wine and a mini thing of champagne and then three tasting sips of wine. Wait, did you go to happy hour at two in the afternoon? How dare you accuse me like that? Yes, I did. You having fun, Vinny? They're drinking.

They're getting loose. They're off the rails already. Well, we just started. It shows already off the rails. We're all just so crazy. I can't believe it. Would you like to hear her bio on their website? Yeah.

Sarah cares about a few things, including cheese, cheap white wine, never show. Cardinay and the real housewives of the Potomac. Oh, she is a comedian. She co-host Bech's Not Another True Crime Podcasts and post her tweets to Instagram. Well, what a quirky thing to do. How fun. I wish this was her O-Bets.

44,000 followers on Instagram. Wow. Not bad. Is she attractive? 64,000 followers on Twitter. She looks kind of like a girl I dated in high school. So unattractive. Okay, I got you.

You could throw a stick and she'd chase it. Got it. Okay. Moving on. So Casey here. Casey was no longer on the show, it appears. She missed the previous episode because she was a little hungover, Betty. Oh, boy.

He's drinking those white claws. But so, yeah. And so as it turns out that if you drink approximately, I mean, I probably had about maybe 10. Wow. And then I had some shots of Pino Grays. and then I had some bud lights. Do you say shots of pinocrigio? Yes, it's the most fun thing.

Oh, yeah, this is a thing I do. I order shots of pina grigio at a bar. How do they charge you for that? See, they don't know how, which is really fun. Which is her second rule of scamming the bartender. Yes, well, sometimes they just laugh. Sometimes I'll just say you can charge me for a full glass or how many of her glass, you know. And a lot of times, they'll be like, this is on me.

And then they'll charge me for the second round after I go do it again. They're like, oh, this is a thing you're going to keep doing. Wait, this is your shtick. Why do you only order it in shots? See, Vinny, not only does she drink, but she's so interesting the way she drinks. Oh, you're so cute. You order shots of wine? Wow.

The bartender's just like, here, just take it. Yeah, just fucking go away. Just go away. You know where a good place to drink is across the street. That place has amazing shots of pito. Do you know, go off yourself? Never shard a day. Go over that they got to pino.

Wow, she stinks. I don't really like that show. Well, Minnie, you would think. How is their crime coverage, Carl? Okay, hold out a second before we get there. now you would think that someone says oh I was hung over last week yeah I drank white claws and shots of wine they'd be like that's a cool whatever you're here now let's get into the topic at hand no no no no no no they just keep this going so it's so funny I think I posted something

about it on an Instagram story and a friend of mine Margo from like we worked together what had it been like seven years now ago she goes holy shit this is still a thing I was like baby girl You don't out grow, you know, grease your shots. All right. Every true crime show needs to hire me. And you know what my job will be, Minnie? My job is the guy that moves things along. I come on there and I go, all right, cool.

What are we talking about today? What's the true crime story that we're going to cover today, huh? Ladies? What do we got? Are you to say that you're the only one in America qualified to host a true crime podcast? I think so. Wouldn't you say that? No.

What did you say that? probably the best at it. Second. No, what I mean is this, many, every one of these shows where these people get together and they like to drink and they're quirky and they think everything about them is interesting and it's not. They need one person on this show, not their gay friend, that guy's not helping. You need me to come out of there and be like, bitch, shut up.

Move on. What the fuck with this nonsense? Every week with this. I can't imagine that this gets any better, does it? Well, let's talk about how long hangovers last because now we're on the topic of hangover. The day after a hangover is like the day you're most productive because you feel like such shit from the day before but I literally two days later I was still like

no I think my hangover No more white claw A semi two day affair because like the day after is just like incapacitated and then the next day I'm still like a little tired Sluggish like kind of sniffly My lips are peeling because of the dehydration You know how that comes? Oh I need to do it carries into the next day I like schedule facials

When I'm hung over because I need like my skin is peeling off See, I mean, but like, that's... Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! He schedules This guy's skin is peeling off because he drinks. That's the gayest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

Listen, I'm not 100% clear on what monkey pox is. If your skin is peeling off because you drink too much, you have a real serious problem. Well, the one woman says, yeah, the first day I'm hung over, the next day I have the sniffles still. You have a cold. You're not hungover. These are not, this is not a hangover that we're talking about. You got drunk when you had a cold, stupid. My skin is peeling off.

You have leprosy and a cold. It's not a hangover. What the fuck is wrong with you guys? Let me tell you. You got a cold and you're drinking wine. You're a dumbass. Whiskey, baby. Whiskey is the way to go.

All right. So you pull up your cuff like you're drinking whiskey. Top of the morning. All right. So can we finally get on track here? Can we finally get focused on what the show is? I taught you a low-carb Cosmo. It's a vodka soda with two splashes of grenadine juice.

Oh, that's right. It's so good. It's like a kind of like Shirley Temple that have seen some things. Yeah. Well, we used to call it Dirty Shurly. Dirtle Shurley. Yeah, that was a big thing when I was bartending. We would always get through.

We were just sugar and booze to just. Get you through the holidays. All right. Anyway, happy holiday. What she said anyway, I'm like, yeah, anyway, let's get to do it. Happy holiday. No. We're not talking about the holidays now, aren't we?

Come on. This is 12 minutes into the show. There's not a commercial. There's barely an intro. This is 12 minutes in. They're still talking about drinking. And this is what I like to drink. And this is how I drink.

But when I drink, I drink too much. Oh, my Christ. But you'll be happy to know, Vinny, that if we're lucky, you and I can witness this live and in person. They're talking about the live show they have coming up. I'd rather go to DammelCon. But you can see us do that more live. live too if you guys oh that's right oh my god i hope you guys ask for still listening if you haven't like shut us off by now i hope not we're doing a live show

we are a little bit of self-awareness right there if you haven't shut us up enough you're still listening i have something to promote me maybe don't be boring for the first 14 minutes and then people will hear about your live show show us off by now i hope not we're doing a live show we are doing january samala samala oh no they're reading the names of the people who bought tickets that's not a good thing sign that reminds me of roll call for opi or stuttering jobs like if there's that few people you can call them each out by name i gotta be honest with you i'm sitting here and i'm thinking go to that show should be put on the wheel behind you attend a true cry podcast in person

doesn't have to be this one can be any of these shows we've been talking about that's fucking funny that's a pretty good one oh man that's better than go to church now i oh no no no viny you just heard this is so bad you just heard they've a live show coming up next month and they've already sold tickets to two people but lest you think it's just two people vittie posting on the group of hopefully i was like and maybe just those two but yeah but they both they each bought two tickets each so they'll have a core for there we go join them oh they each got two tickets so there's four people coming to the show at least so that's good that's good to know you know when i'm getting tickets to a show i want to know that it's going to be really awkward i'm

to be like one of the only people there it's always a good feeling i'm gonna tell you something really funny yeah um just because i'm a spiteful asshole okay there's a comic who has a show coming up in the rickles room that i don't really particularly care for yeah okay and uh the show's coming up but i've had keeping an eye on the numbers mm-hmm two tickets oh no it's coming up quick see this is the problem with you betty is that you work for this place that books for this room that you're smiling about if he's got back to the bosses i don't think they'd be too pleased with you so my job to promote his show rooting against the club doing well.

I am not rooting against Cup at you. Yes, you are right. I bring business into this club. You're actively rooting for them for the show to fail. No, I'm actively rooting for him to Bob.

Yeah. Well, that's something. What you want? Maybe that should be on the wheel. Bob? No, I have to go to that show. Should I put it on the wheel? We'll talk about it.

Okay, but if we get done with this fucking side. Hold on. If I spin, if I spin and that comes up, I want to be coped. So he sells two tickets. The third one. You have to buy the rest of the tickets that are available.

It's a sold-out show. It's just me. It's just Carl and maybe Andy will go with you. All right, Vinnie. Finally, because you asked, what about the true crime coverage? I want to know, what are we going to be talking about? Is there something interesting? Maybe something I haven't heard about before.

I love these true crime shows to dig into cases that aren't being talked about by everybody else. That's because we were between some big ones for kind of to round out the year. Like, you know, we were between Charles Manson and Casey Anthony. But lo and behold, we chose Lacey Peterson. And that's where I turned it off. I've heard enough Lacey Peterson talk. Thank you very much. You know what I'm talking about Will Connor?

Finney, the reason why I decided to go ahead and bring Brian Coburger's day is because it's brand new. Yep. These evidence is still coming out right now. All this information's coming out. People who talk about this case three years from now are hacks. It's a hack thing to do. Ladies and gentlemen, I can't argue with that logic.

Thank you very much. Are you ready for some voicemails, Carl? Yeah, let's hear some voicemails. All right. They're brought to us by our friends in Syracuse. The Creep-off voicemail segment is brought to by the city of Syracuse. Thank you to everyone who spent their New Year's Eve in Syracuse this year, the proud home of the only New Year's ball

made completely out of recycled heroin needles. Remember, don't touch it. See you in Syracuse. By the way, don't touch it, I think is the motto of Syracuse. Remember, don't touch it. Carl, let's start off with a suggestion for the wheel. They didn't like that we didn't take the Jerry Banfield life coaching and put it out in there.

So here's another option. All right. All right, all right. Since your pussies won't do the Jerry Bansfield, life coat thing. He has now released Jerry Bansfield NFTs. So put other real consequences. Whoever lose, we've got to buy some Jerry NFTs. Jerry.

I love you. Bye. Jerry Bantfield NFTs, Carl. I'm assuming that's a real thing. That's what he says. I wonder what they go for. Did you look it up? No.

I just listen to the voicemail. $100,000. He just needs to sell wild. All right. This one's for me. Hey, this is voice over Vinny. I love you, but

you need to go back to Vinny the bottom instead of a G-Hod Vinny. I don't know what you decided to do there, but I'm not dating that so much. Just go back to the metrosexual, Vinny.

Just, you know, just take care of yourself. I don't know if you're going through something, you know, if your feet or girlfriend don't you, but just take, just I don't give a shit shave that gay beer You are looking very bear-like these days

I have to say Vinny the bottom I do have to say I have a fiance in Niagara Falls You guys don't like it You know it's weird I started growing this beard in like July Yeah

And no one has said anything to be about it Until like the last three weeks I've noticed that too because when Dick commented on it I didn't even notice that you'd been growing a beard. It just kind of like slowly over time came in, I guess. Yeah, that's how they work, shithead. Well, right. Not as slowly as yours, but either way,

it was interesting because Dick's just like, hey, what's that dumb shit on your face? I was like, oh, yeah. Look at that. What's it dumb? It's just what? What? He didn't say that. I said that. I made it funny. All right. Here's some thoughts on you, Carl. Oh, shit. If Andy Dick is the horniest man

alive, Carl has to be number two with the way he talks to those WATT review girls. How can a man that visibly has such low testosterone be so horny all the time. Go fuck yourself. Oh, boy cells are killing. Visibly low tea. Holy shit, I had no idea.

Carl Lotee. That's funny. That should be your middle name instead of Ziggfried. My middle name is that Zingfried? Yes, it is. Okay. It's Carl Ziegfried Hamburger. Okay.

All right, hold out a second. I have to point this out. You really are fucking like... You don't be a funny character as Mr. Lotee. A pity to fool! Mr. Lotee. I would get very upset right now, but I feel like I need a nap. Yeah, and I don't have any hair in my arms.

Pitted fool. I don't have no... Chest hair. That girl's very attractive. I'd like to have a conversation with her someday. Maybe coffee. A Mr. Lotee. Let's get breakfast.

Mr. Lotee. I got to be home in time for the soaps. How come you're a real... You really are a fucking Svengali. Uh-huh? Like, you're getting these girls to fucking do toddless pictures. his fucking head is soaping up her ass in the fucking shower. Yeah.

How do you do all this for WATP? And we don't have creep off review girls. Have you seen what the ice setups have done over the last 15 years with go-go dancers? How come there are no creep-off review girls? I'd like to know. I think I know the answer because there's one common denominator with all the things that I do that involve girls. Me. You seem to be the problem on this one, Vinny.

You seem to be the problem. Maybe you're too high tea. I just want a cute. I just want to have a pretty creep-off. Because I want a review, girl, this Christmas. That's hilarious. Well, you're going about it the wrong way. That's not going to happen now.

Hey, you should go back and listen to the bonus episode we just did. Yes. Chris Chan, Volume 3. We're going to be doing an episode with our listeners. I need to coordinate that very quickly. But Carl, I watched a documentary yesterday. Okay. We have a new hall of favor coming up.

And I got a friend. of a friend who's friends with the documentarian, but Carl, the best documentary I've ever seen in my life. Really? I watched last night. Will you please talk of the subject at least? Brett Hart's nephew Teddy. Okay.

He's a bit of a problem. Cool. There's a, this is technically a true crime situation. Yep. And, uh, fake wrestling, but true crime. Got to love it. The guy who made this video. Yeah.

There is a scene where I guess, you ever see the show shameless that was on Showtime? like William H. Macy. Yeah. They found like the Canadian Frank Gallagher who Brett Hart's nephew convinced to get him out on bail for the crimes of sexual assault and kidnapping. All right. They get to this fan to come bail him out. And he has to go stay at this guy's house.

So the documentary goes over to the house. And this guy, he's got a child like a little black kid living with him who's way too old to be wearing diapers, wearing diapers, wearing diapers just running around dancing and clapping. Well, this fucking redneck is breaking beer bottles on the ground. I'm sold. It's odd peacock folks. The Teddy long documentary. Sounds amazing.

And Mersh is in it. That is correct. Oh, no shit. It's one of the talking heads on there? Yeah. It's pretty wild. I fucking fell in love with it. Cool.

I kind of want to see if we could get Mersh to come and do that episode with us. All right. All right. Those guys are so fucking busy. I know. I really want to do something with Mersh and Royce, but it just seems like they're always podcasting. Yeah. But, yeah, we should read.

reach out to him on that one. Because when I saw him on that, I was like, okay, this is an episode. Nice. All right. Let's keep moving with the voicemail, shall we? Last episode is very educational, Carl. It was. Hey, guys, Cheryl, pal, D.P. That last episode was very educational. I learned a lot about myself because Carl brought in some dude that stabbed a baby, and I was like, oh, I hate this. And then you brought in Andy Dick, and I was like, oh, I really hate this. I hate this. I hate Andy Dick as a, just from his acting and everything, I was like, I hate, I hate Andy Dick's career more than a murdered baby. You could have just said, I'm bringing in Andy Dick. There you

go. You want another, you want another solid fucking win? Bring in Tom Green. They're the, they're the same motherfucker. That's not true. I know Tom. Tom's awesome. Tom's a great guy. Tom's like the nicest dude in the world. He is Canadian. He probably fucking twist cats at night or does something weird. Yeah, I could not believe the reaction you got to Andy Dick. I thought he was still mostly beloved by people, but apparently everyone thinks he's a cream. Do you realize that I picked Andy Dick because I was like, oh, well, I'm going to lose. So I might as well pick the most entertaining thing.

I remember you say that. You're like, oh, we got a guest style. We always lose if there's a guest style. I'll just grab Andy Dick. We fought. I had no idea he was that hateable. Wow. But I'm pretty sure that we're going to be keeping tabs on Andy Dick in the future.

I hope so. Google Alert set. I still think you won that because of the Phil Hartman's story, though, which happened back in the 90s. It's supposed to be 2022. It still hurts. It does. All right. Here's someone calling to yell at you, and I agree with them.

When Carl was on the Chrissy Mary show, he was given a chance to do plugs. He didn't mention the fucking creep-off once. Tell that motherfucker to mention the creep-bock. What the fuck is wrong with him? How, God-damn wrong is that? Jesus Christ, that stupid motherfucker. They're Benny. Oh, dude.

Bix him out. Well, later. He knows my thoughts. He knows my thoughts. Chrissy cut it out of the episode. All I did was talk about the creep off. Then Chrissy Mayer, she's cutting these things out of the episodes because she wants to take the creep off down. She's a problem that one.

Her and Frank Pellegrino are pulling all the strings. They're the puppet. matches me on all of this they're setting a narrative Vinnie these people are creating a narrative it doesn't exist carlisbril to creep off that's a narrative that they're creating through high-tech video editing software can I can I can I tell you something as a friend no can I tell you something as a friend you're the shits you're really are that's I've done with my voicemails that's my story and I'm sticking to it all right you ready for a scum

break because we still gotta spin the wheel we can these shows are going too long Well, it's because you're going all day. I'd fucking idiots to the... I'm going all day! Yes! Come on, the bills game's going to start a little bit. Let's go. All right.

Let's do a scum parade. Scum parade. Take me on a raid of these fucksharets that these creeps have made. Scum parade. Vinnie and Carl going to tell you about some fuck shit. Scum parade. Like stories of a kid Fucked by his mom or dad

Soaking up the blood of a cat scum parade A lot of fun ones today, huh? Yes. Excuse me, folks. Start in Texas, shall we? A Texas man dressed up in women's clothes Allegedly snapped photos underneath a stall in the mall's bathroom, then brandished a pepperball gun as he was fleeing the scene.

It's an old West. shootout, Carl. Yep. Douglas Eagle, 45, is facing charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and improper photography. So I had never heard that. Nothing was centered. He didn't follow the rule of thirds.

I never heard that charge before. Improper photography. Does that mean that Opie is an improper photographer? Yes. Is that the new title for Greg Opie Hughes? The improper photographer. The improper photographer. Greg Hughes.

I just want to point out to this guy. I don't know if he's never heard of Google or Bing or Duck, Duck, Go. you're going to get better peeing videos by just searching for it because listen that angle is not that flattering coming up from underneath the stall it's just not a good angle for people you know there's these girls out there that are trying to feed their kids right they need the money you don't need to go out there chew pepper balls of people he's like i don't want to google girls peeing and then people search my search history they're going to think i'm a creep and this should happen on christmas eve by the way most people are getting ready to go see the family or Old Doug Egan's putting out his dress and load the pepper balls. Dude, being a pervert before, like, cross-dressing was fine, everyone had a smartphone. You had to be way more creative. This is an old school pervert. This is a boomer pervert we have right here, folks.

Dude, this is like the run up the middle on fourth and goal of being a pervert. It's just so predictable. You're like, okay. So, by the way, this happened at the same ball. I did that story about around Christmas. where the American Eagle girl, like, killed the manager and then set her on fire in her apartment. So are you going to do, like, 20 minutes about this mall and you're stand-up set now? You don't want to go to the Hewlett Mall in Fort Worth.

So a woman confronted the suspect described as a male that was dressed look like a female. In Texas, they're going to say something to you. I mean, I know it's 2023 now. We're all for everybody's rights to dress however they want to. But it is Texas. And you are in the ladies' room, sir. Right. You're going to get a talking to by someone.

So this woman who... It is interesting, though, how quickly the LGBTQ community will disavow people. It's like, they'll stick up for anyone. It does the shit. They're like, oh, wait, what were they doing? Oh, they were taking upskirt photos? Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's just a guy.

That one, no, that one is just a guy. That's a cis male. That is a cis male. That is a cis male. Get up. Don't drag our fucking good day through this month. Not us. I was having...

I was having lunch with my friend the other day. And he plays for the other team. And he told me what I said, I was considering to bring it in George Santos. And I told him I brought an Andy Dick the week before. He's like, what are you trying to do? Just make us all look horrible? I was like, no.

I'll leave you alone this way. You go, no, you guys are doing it to yourselves. And here we go. But the suspect was confronted and decided to try to run away. Another person witnessed the conversation and attempted to intervene. But the suspect reached into his backpack and pulled out what appeared. to be a handgun, pointed at the male witness, the suspect that left the ball, and the handgun could be seen in his waistband as he changed clothes.

That old gag. Yeah. We're looking for a woman. Yeah, there's no woman here. No ladies here! Egan's being out of the Tarrant County Correction Center in Fort Worth, I combined $30,000 bond. Now, Carl. Yes.

We're going to move down to Palm Beach, Florida. Florida. Florida You got to get your shit together Why so many creepy bucks Don't that hell going on. Maybe it's a small gas Hope they're going to be in a gift

Uh huh huh Come on for a gun West Palm Beach, Florida A man is being accused of incestuals rape and the impregnation of a 13-year-old child. 41-year-old Jean Innocent. His last name was innocent? Yes.

Interesting. He claims that voodoo caused him to rape the child. He doesn't deny doing it. He doesn't deny being the father. I think he just wanted to brag about getting laid. It's like that old joke where the guy goes to confession and he tells the priest. He's like, oh, yeah, I just had sex with two sorority girls. He's like, well, are they of age?

He goes, yeah. Why are you telling me that? He's like, what do you mean? I'm telling everyone. He's being charged with one kind of incest, one kind of impregnation of a child, and two counts of sexual battery on a child. The girl went to the St. Mary's medical center, saying she felt abdominal pains.

The arrest report said it was there that St. Mary's hospital staff found the victim's pains stemmed from her being six weeks pregnant. That'll do it. She said innocent began sexually abusing her over the summer. His most recent abuse of her, she noted, was in November. her tears she added stopped innocent from full insertion. She recalled him saying, never mind before leaving the room. I have to say, as someone who is not a rapist,

it's good to hear that the other person not being into it is a turnoff. Because I always thought that that would be the thing that would make it difficult. Like the other person going, I really don't want this right now. It's not sexy. Yeah. It's not good pillow talk. How do you get past your wife's tears during sex? I'm just curious.

Flip her over. I'll change the shirt. sheets later. Turning music up real loud. Holy shit. Oh, holy shit. He said that this would,

he blames voodoo. He says the voodoo magic made him do this. It's possible. So it is not Garland. Oh, no. This is not the curse of fucking Papa Shango. Okay, dude. This is like,

this is just an asshole who. I don't know why someone would use this as a defense. Do they think this is like separation of church and state? If you say it's a church thing, they can't prosecute you? That could be true. It is Florida. Is that what he's thinking? I don't know how this is a defense.

We'll see how it turns out for him. Yeah, all right. Well, a 26-year-old Arizona man was arrested in Nebraska, Carl. Did you hear about this? Did you hear about this? Yeah, he was allegedly abducted a 13-year-old boy. He met through an online video game platform. Discord, actually.

That would be the one. Tadashi Kojima, also known as Aaron M. Zeman. Yeah, I didn't understand that. Well, he's Americanizing his name, apparently. Is that what it is? Okay. Or is it just because when you abduct children, you want to have multiple names? I don't know. I'm thinking that might be part of it.

Okay. He was taken into custody on Wednesday in charge with one count each of second-degree felony kidnapping and misdemeanor resisting arrest after authorities allegedly located at traveling with the missing child. Yes. That would be the piece of evidence they need. So they caught him at a getting split gas station. And what happened was he went into the gas station with the kid. And there was like an Amber Alert out for this kid. Dude, how many times do I say this on this show?

I know it's not like a broken record. But fuel up before the abduction. Make sure you have a full take of gas before you abducted child. You can't be stopping everywhere for gas and cigarettes. Come on, man. Motherfucker, you got to make sure you have enough gas to get over the state lines just to make sure it's federal. Fuck, or charge your EV or whatever you got to do, but load up on all the necessities. Dummy?

Now, an alert gas station attendant had actually thought something looked suspicious about the car and the people that were at the gas stations called the police. Yeah, you know, it's suspicious about it. He's fucking open mouth kissing a 13 year old. He's 25 years old. He's driving a 98 Toyota Avalon. That's pretty suspicious. Right there. That should not even be on the road at this point. He said that they pulled up to one of the pumps at the station, but no one got out of the vehicle.

The driver that reportedly turned the car around and went the wrong way down a one-way street before turning around again and returning to the parking lot. By the way, that's the exact type of behavior you want to display when you're doing something illegal. Just be as suspicious as possible at all times. Drive erratically, go the wrong way down one-ways. If anybody says anything to you immediately say, why do you ask? Yeah, nothing suspicious is my son. No, I just asked you wanting me to fill it up all the way. He's my son.

That's fucking funny. Yeah. So either way, this dude is bad at abducting children. Very bad. He's a creep. By the way, watch your kids online, you dummies. Did the boy want to hang out with him? Is that the sense that you got?

Yeah, I was. It sounded like this guy was grooming the boy. Okay. Because how disappointing is that when the guy finally picks you up and it's a 98 Toyota avalon? This guy's a loser. I thought my new boyfriend was going to be cool. Dad.

I was going to show them off to all the junior high kids. Damn it. Well, the young boy's father said that they were talking and exchanging inappropriate conversations via discord. So it wasn't just high scores from Call of Duty that they were talking about. Okay. Yeah. And wait a wait. If you're the dad, you got to be let down a little bit.

You went with the guy in an Avalon. Yeah. I'm with you. Didn't we raise you right? What did we do? This one's on me, kiddo. I failed you as a parent We're going to church

Cameron Michael Ward 25 Here's a fun guy Yeah We're in Utah right We're in Utah He approached a Utah Utah transit driver Neil Unamora

After they pulled into the station And stepped off of his bus So this guy's a bus driver This guy Cameron Michael Ward 25 is hanging out at the bus station Yes This gentleman is the driver steps off the bus.

Ward then repeatedly asked the driver, where are you from? Now, if you don't want to get charged with a hate crime, don't ask questions like this is a good start. Okay. Now, according to the charging documents, Ward punched Yuma multiple times in the head and face. After Yomora fell to the ground,

Ward repeatedly continued to beat him up and kick him. Unimora managed to get up, but was knocked down again a second time. Ward then attempted to gouge his left eye out which caused a crescent-shaped laceration into his left cornea. Can you do a favor, Vinny? Sure. Can you read the headline of this story for me real quick?

I don't have it in front of it. Would you have the headline? Let me see if I have. Oh, I'll have it. Hold on. The headline is, Manicues of trying to gouge out Utah bus driver's eye because he's Asian. It's implying that there would be a good reason to gouge somebody's eye out.

Not for the right reason. He wasn't trying to gouge his eye out because he's Asian. Once again, the real creep here is the press. what a fucking lunatic this guy is just because he's Asian so he tried to gouge the fucking guys out with his fingers yeah and he goes then I thought he meant

what country are you from so I'm thinking this is more or less a hate crime is what the cop said well the guy answered the guy goes where are you from and he goes Salt Lake City so I think maybe this guy just hates Mormons what did that make way more sense because the guy never said he was from anywhere other than Salt Lake City Utah you know what this is probably

what fraternity this is probably a fraternity stunt this is what these guys want to do for creed for street crime they're always asking me how do you gouge out an asian's eyes yeah those are the hardest to gouge out by the way if you can pull that off that's that's a why do you think that their eyes are the hardest ones to pull out i just wonder why he would say that well right now it was like yours would be they could either um for a hazing ritual you can either eat chitos from between carl's toes or couch out of the Asian man's eyes no one ever picks the Cheetos. No one

ever has picked the Cheetos before. Every Asian man within a hundred miles of the campus has an eye patch. On Asian pirates in the school I noticed. Our fraternity is a problem. Yarr.

I like suggestions on the name of the Creepoff fraternity, please. You can tweet those at us at Creepoff pod. Now, folks, he's being charged in two of disarvey, a police officer, because he got to a fight with the cops. Would eat cum pie be the name of the fraternity? I hope not.

I hope not, too. Keep going, sorry. It's okay. He was arrested shortly after attack. The cops got a hold of him. He punched an officer in the head in the face. The officer pinned Ward to the ground, but later reportedly continued to resist and even attempted to grab the officer's gun from his holster.

Not a good decision. Back if deputy has arrived, Ward kicked one of them so hard in the torso, that is gear on his vest was knocked off. It's not like this guy's just angry. They're trying to make this a hate crime against Asians and there was like related stories about Trump on this article and stuff. It's just like, this guy's just beating up everyone.

This guy's not being out of eating up everyone, it sounds like. Ward was charged for two counts of disarving a police officer, as I said. One count of aggravated assault, two counts of assault on an officer and interference with arresting officer. He has been booked into the South Lake County jail. So

Mr. Ward calm the fuck down would you please isn't it interesting every week we do the scum parade never want to be gone there's only three stories this week guys hey sorry we only got two to read to you this week every week there's four new stories like this it is impressive and it brings me back to remembering when we first started the show yes and you were very concerned that there would be an issue with not having enough content i go really do these all have to be topical like recent stories like yeah yeah okay okay if you say so what i don't know fred i don't know that's gonna work bitty and here we are here we are your second most successful show yes of the three

well we'll see uh it's it's a close second or third it's up there for sure all right to the top three top three hey before i spin the wheel i do want to remind people that today is super champ monday and say fiscker whisker seriously don't let your kids use discord i mean that seems like a no-brainer right Does anything good come out of Discord ever Except for that suggestion I got for Not Another True Crime Podcast That was a good suggestion Okay, so Discord's good, never mind, I take it back

Yeah, so yeah, let your kids on It should be fine That's our advice Now, why don't we talk about what's on the room? Just all your kids talk to Jay's apartment And you'll be fine That's the one rule I have in my household I mean, honestly, they'd probably be fine

On the Creepov Discord It's just cat pictures There are a lot of cat pics on the creep off Don't know why It's like shared stories of atrocity, cat pictures. Well, I think it's because to add a little levity because it's tough to like read those articles over and over again and not just see like a really cute cat doing something fun. Is it? Okay.

I think so. Well, all right. Carl, stop stalling. I'm going to stop stalling now. Is it time to spin the wheel? Yeah, let's talk about what's on the board. All right. There's Tom Meyer's restaurant.

There's dinner with listeners. Yes, that is a return. Do we know that Tom still works at that restaurant? I assume he does. I still think you have to go there. Okay, either way Okay Keep the Super Chats coming

And we're going to get to those at the end Yep Murder and makeup Murder and makeup is where I have to make a video Where I read a true crime story While applying makeup Just like what's her nuts

What's the name of that woman Bailey Sarian Oh she's kind of cute Oh god The makeup on Oh I know as I was gonna say I mentioned how ugly she is And I got called out for it

And all I did was like Google her with no makeup And set the picture And then shut that right up She is not in the tragic. She fucking looks like me. Yeah, not, not good. All right.

All right. Drive to Gary Indiana is still on here? Well, you're spitting. So yes, it is. Okay. Go to church. Oh, that would be the worst. Five episode podcast series.

I believe the other person gets to choose the topic of that podcast series. That would be my choice. Okay. Truck knots. Knife edge chops. That's where Colin Delaney, former WWE superstar comes in and you have to take your shirt off and take three slaps to the chest. I don't like that. Not fun.

So there's give the other person the Patreon money. Yep. The one I'm going to land on, pass the spin. Bullshit. Cardiff stand up. Cardiff will write a stand-up set for me that I have to perform at an open mic. Yep. Yep.

Could you imagine every setup is like, yeah, peanut potatoes hard these days. I was like, what the fuck is he talking about? The worst part about being a potato is when you drive by McDonald's, you smell your relatives. I think that every sentence of every setup should, should begin with as a pedophile rapist. I think. Cardiff, please. I know a lot about joke structure.

That'll be funny. You're not the one writing this set, thank God. $100 for the podcast hitman. We got to donate. Oh, that guy, a note back. Remind me to do that. I got to do that. Yeah, you sure do.

Why are you writing this shit about my wife? You owe a fucking note back. I thought I was flattering. I was happy about it. The two-hour song torture. This is going to be the song. I want a fucking like an animal. That's going to be the song you have to listen to for two hours.

From the inside. I hate you. I want to fuck Jen like an animal. You get me closer to carol. It's the podcast Hitman theme. I hate it. Chicken bikinis on the cow bikinis on the chicken bikini. God, how great would it be if you landed on chicken bikini.

And you had to do that shit twice. Oh, I'd get a new t-shirt. That'd be cool. God damn it. All right. Tom Myers' rest dress. We're back to square one. So I'm looking for past the spin to Vinny, which would mean that Vinny would have to spin the wheel of consequences.

That ain't going to happen. Hullarious. Let's find out what happens. I keep your hands or I can see him. Whoa, whoa, hold on a second. Hold on a second. Try that again here. I got to move this.

It's scraping up against, uh, oh, sure. Mr. Rogers. Okay. Here we go. Round and round it goes, and this is going to drive to Gary, Indiana. Jesus Christ. It finally paid off. It finally paid off.

Yes. All right, guys. So WATP is going to be on hold for about three months as I recover from my gunshot wounds. Vin-housing for the win-housing. Oh, shit. Well, I'm glad everyone's having so much fun with this right now. Can I fly to Chicago and get a rental car? That would make sense, right?

Because then I can hang out in Chicago. That'd be fun. You can just drive another hour and you be in Chicago. That's the thing that sucks. It's like an hour outside of Chicago. so like it's a far away from here that's that's that's her damn sure she got eight hours it's six eight hours a trip it's a far away maybe you get a hotel there maybe i can stay with patty seat cups maybe he'll let me crash it on his couch or in his closet carol get up i got a podcast

purple monkey dishwasher says say hi to patty for me car we'll do purple unreal un fucking real minnie all right well happy 203 everybody i can't wait to, you know, can't wait to reschedule my entire life around fucking driving to Gary, Indiana. So exciting. Maybe on my, on the way back from the Super Bowl, when I go to, when I go to Phoenix, Arizona for the Super Bowl, maybe on the way back, I'll do a pit stop in beautiful downtown Gary. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. What a shit hole.

I was talking about you, not. Wild car, bitches! Yeah! I was talking about you. You, Benny, you're the shithole, not Gary. Ah, from Uncle Rican, Miami. The champ is here, Fannie Witty Witty. Vinnhousing for the Wienhousing.

That's it, baby. Folks, thank you for listening to The Creep Off. Overcaffeinated says, Wheel Idea, stand up with jokes written by the other host. Yeah, that's fun. That's actually a really good idea. That is pretty good. That's pretty good.

Well, no, this is better. I'm really happy. That was, like, one of the first things we put on that fucking wheel. Oh, I know. That both of us have dreaded. Oh, I complained about it. We've discussed it amongst each other. I literally told you I'm not doing that.

I've been complaining about this since the first started this show. Like, what are you talking about? I'm not driving a fucking I. I have a lease not putting that kind of mileage on my car. What are you talking about? Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Yeah.

This is going to be me in the driveways you leave. I'm just going. Do do. I'm so happy right now. You know what you ought to do? What's that? Here's what you should do. I'm listening.

The day before dabble gone is when you should do this. You should have listeners meet you and Gary and you could drive them to dabalcon. You just don't want to show up a dabalcon. You never get abducted and never make it to dabalcon. I see what you're up to. It took three years to land on Gary, Indiana. And you know what, Carl, you did that weird fancy spin, too, where you did it backwards. Yeah.

You were trying to get fancy with it. I was. And that's what you got when you tried to get fancy. This is just a fucking great day. It all backfired on me. Wow. Well, at least I'm not fucking bired a chicken bikini. There's that at least.

This might be my ear, folks. This might be my year. I hate how happy you are right now. Let's talk about that Dolphins game, shall we? Let's. Why don't you call me from the car phone on your way to Gary? We can talk all about an asshole. I'm the car phone.

All right, buddy. You can call me on your car line. All right, buddy. All right, folks. Okay. Patreon. Go find to support the show on Patreon. We truly, truly appreciate it.

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Hall of Fame episodes. We induct people into the Hall of Fame. We do deep dives on our favorite creeps. Oh, boy, is it a great time. And it's only $5 is our basic tier. It's cheaper now that it's ever been because of fucking inflation. Thanks a lot to the current administration for that. Jesus Christ

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