The Creep Off - Episode 157: The Piggy Palace Good Time Society

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

Karl is off this week so joining Vinnie to make his nomination for "Creepiest Hog Farmer" is our pal Bryan Johnson from Tell'em Steve Dave & Would you Kindly?: In the Scum Parade we meet ...the horniest woman in Florida, a terrible pet owner and a Doctor who turned out to be a real audio/video equipment enthusiast: Check out the stories here: Threesome Goes Bad, Couple Ends Up In Cuffs | The Smoking Gun 1-Hour-Old Baby Found in Trash Can at Calif. Gas Station Hospitalized (people.com)Hidden cameras missing in Massachusetts child porn case allegedly masterminded by family doctor: feds (msn.com) 'Sick b*****d' chopped her own hamster 'Mr Nibbles' in half and ate it - Daily StarWho will do the polar plunge? Vote here 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are you sick of your boring true crime shows, like lame podcast on the lap? No, good news, this is a creep-off, the true crime joke for men. Because we made this show a contest, where you get to go vote for who brought in the best creep. And after taking five ultimate pones from his opponent, the losers have to spin the dreaded wheel of consequences. Bummer! Would you include bogus consequences, such as reading? The Seminology Cookbook, or having to loan out his voice talent to a Jay and Silent Bob cartoon movie. Last week we took on those lepricon worshipping people of the Irish, with Carl's Creep, who found an innovative way to get to the magical fourth hole on the woman.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Hell yeah! Or Vinnie's Creep, who stole his friend's awesome pants without ever returning them. Bologous. Anyways, that's all I got for this week. Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Sensation. Horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive, and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo. Hello, Ola Creepos, welcome to another edition of your favorite true cry podcast, the show about creeps, by creeps for you creeps. My name is Vinny, I'm your host, and I got to tell you, this show is going to be 50% better than usual because Carl's not here
Starting point is 00:01:59 where's the oh shit Carl's not here he doesn't have that you got butt slam jing damn it all right either way in true viny fashion I fucked up the audio for the first 10 minutes of the show with my guest today Brian Johnson who is going to be on for the whole episode during to hear him in a few minutes he is such a good sport and a great guy he let me go back and do record a re-record part of my presentation so Hopefully everything is going to sound flawless and smooth to you and nothing will impede your listening pleasure. So do me a favor. Make sure you're following Brian Johnson at Tell him Steve Dave and make sure you're listening to Tell him Steve Dave and his show.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Would you kindly on Compound Media with our pal E-Rock? So without any further ado, let's kick the show off and enjoy this Carl free episode. Splot! Today, our category is very simple. It is creepiest hog farmer. and Brian got to pick it so I am very excited to announce the stakes
Starting point is 00:03:00 for this episode Brian We got some stakes going I like we have some stakes for those I feel like I'm more a part of it now Yeah like we're really going to do this man Polar Plunge Loser of this episode This exhibition matching Brian and I
Starting point is 00:03:16 Losers going in the lake And I've watched people do the polar plunge And I think to myself of what maniacs would do something like this, but never thinking that I would do it voluntarily because I would never do it for charity, but for the creep off. I would never do it for charity for you, Ben.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I'll risk it. You know, man, honest to God, the worst thing about it is when the water gets to the small of your back, just so you know. That's when it just shoots right up. That's what it just, it's the absolute worst feeling of the world. when it gets to the top half of your body.
Starting point is 00:03:53 And I know this because I've been in the lake before. I had to do this when I lost to Eric Zane in an exhibition match, even though I shouldn't have. But that's neither here nor there. So you might be doing it twice. Who knows? I don't think so. I don't think so, Brian.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I got a pretty strong contender, buddy. I know you do. I know you do. But let me tell you about my creep today, folks. My creep. Ooh, with a lady. Well, used to be a lady. she was bored
Starting point is 00:04:21 under the name Stephen Buchanan she went into the Navy as a teenager and served in Vietnam before moving to one of our favorite states Oregon Oregon
Starting point is 00:04:35 Oregon and she kind of got out of the Navy and I'm not going to I'm going to level with you this is not how do I put this a handsome man okay this is not
Starting point is 00:04:49 the best-looking person I've ever seen. This is a mugshot of Susan. Gorgeous. And then here's another mug shot of Susan. This is what she looked like more on the regular for people. In case you were curious. What do you think, Brian? Pop-eye and a wig? Did I nail it?
Starting point is 00:05:11 I think it nailed it. And I think if I had to deal with this person on any level, I would prefer wigless. You would prefer wigless? The addition of the wig makes it seem like straight out of a horror movie. Like, that's what's coming out of a closet at you with a knife. That's fucking scary. It's very Norman Batesish, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she got out of the Navy and was like, It may sound amusing, but women are confusing to pop by the sale of a man. So Susan is now living up in Oregon, and she has decided that she is going to to farm pigs because that's our category this week hog farmer so she is uh farming pigs up there and she's doing it poorly folks she does not take care of these animals very well they are a lot of people are concerned about the way she takes care of them in fact people from her
Starting point is 00:06:05 neighborhood were going there and feeding the animals for her because they looked so emaciated and she basically survived made these pigs survive on other animals that died like she would find dead squirrels and dead cats and shit like that and feed them to these animals and that she would butcher them herself and sell the meat to people for 80 cents a pound what a bargain you don't frequently see skinny pigs you know yeah yeah you know who has skinny pigs shitty pig owners yeah now big owners who feed them squirrels yeah and not only is she disgusting not only is she not taking care
Starting point is 00:06:51 of them. She ladies and gentlemen lives in this lovely home. Now since she bought this property, she's been living inside of this thing and I'm going to let these two people who she had
Starting point is 00:07:06 paid to come do some cleanup around her property describe what her living conditions were like. Here you go, Brian. Both of them remember her living conditions as being terrible. Mother was running water on property both say there was no bathroom on site let's say this is her barn right here and you go underneath it there's the pig pin right there and there was like a little this like a little little
Starting point is 00:07:31 little just a little area to live in i don't know how anyone can live like that living in a little room with just a bed and tv and a little stove she said she got electricity from solar power which she had batteries all over the place there. They're all in that little room of hers. I mean, she's sleep next to the pigs. I almost feel like there should be a little picture of stuttering John in the corner up there, like they're talking about him. Yeah, this lady looks a little bit like stuttering John, too.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Like, yeah. Like in his rocker days, yeah. Yeah. You know, if only cameras could pick up stink lines, wouldn't that be amazing? Like, this mugshot needs stink lines in it. So she lives like a completely disgusting, literally like an animal. She is living in a pig pen. And she doesn't have to.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Like she could not live in that. She has a choice. What state is this in? Oregon. Oregon. That's right. Oregon. So it does get cold there because that looked like a very like open air house.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah. No roof. wall. Yeah, she slept in that shit. She slept in that fucking hobble. She probably had a space heater. I'm amazed she didn't just get electrocuted and die. She survived up there by like I said, butchering me and she would
Starting point is 00:08:59 put ads on Craigslist for helping hands. And she met a gentleman by the name of Robert Haney in 2013. Robert Haney's daughter described a deal that she had with Monica, that her dad had with Monica. She said that her dad would get part cash and be able
Starting point is 00:09:15 to stay on the property is if he agreed to build that house back up for her. So he gets to like park his shitty trailer on the property and work for her and get a little bit of cash, but build this house. So there are many times in my life when like I'll take a pause and be like, what, what mistakes have I made to get to this point? Like I'm in a not great situation.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Yeah. I forget being Popeye. But if I'm the guy who's like, well, I'm going to work for Popeye. I'm going to live in a shitty little trailer on their property and work for Park Cash. I would have to, I mean, how do you not reconsider every second of your life up to that point?
Starting point is 00:09:55 This feels like the kind of decision someone makes when they are resetting their lives, right? Yeah. Like you, this guy must have had like a real fucking horrible situation. I was like, I'm just going to go live in the woods with fucking Popeye, the sailor pig farmer. Yeah, he's like, I got sober and this is a good way to stay away from that environment. I'll just hang out on the pig farm.
Starting point is 00:10:14 do pig stuff with the pig lady well the daughter said that in December 2013 her father dropped off the face of the earth she said we hadn't heard from him for two months we all just started to panic on January 1st 2014 the kids drove out to check on their dad they spoke to monica who claimed she hadn't seen him since he quit four months earlier huh monica susan monica said that my dad just basically left she wanted us to come retrieve us stuff and get it all out of there when they got to the guy's place all of his stuff was there his tools all of his clothes his jacket that he supposedly loved so the family was very very suspicious and they went to the police department and the cops drove out to the property and she told them
Starting point is 00:11:04 the cops that they hadn't she hadn't seen them in six months oh i didn't see the guy in six months so the story's changing the family's very concerned they don't know what's going on. Well, that's when authorities found a clue. Apparently, in December, after the time that this man has supposedly disappeared, there was a charge on his EBT card, basically his food stamp card in a Walmart, 25 minutes away from Susan Monica's house.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Well, they go to the Walmart, and what do you know when they look on the security footage? they see fucking old pop-eye sitting there going just fucking having a great old time fucking using this guy's card buying spinach in toilet paper I hope no lice all that so when they get to the house though
Starting point is 00:12:08 the cops are going around and they found they found this Video taken on January 10th, 2014 by Jackson County Sheriff's Captain Nathan Sickler shows the day he searched Susan Monica's property and found something terrifying. Human remains. To be possibly human. That human bone, one of Robert Haney's legs. It has an animal bite marks all over it. It's just not on. You see these types of criminals, you know, like.
Starting point is 00:12:42 They kill somebody and then they, like you say, they use their credit cards or their debit cards, their EBT cards, their checks. And you're just like, how stupid can you be? But then again, you turn around and you're like, well, how much sense should I attribute to a transgender pig woman, you know, who's leaving leg bones in the middle of the road? To them, maybe using the EBT card is like, it doesn't even cross their mind that it could be an issue. Correct. Could come back to haunt them. absolutely bonkers so they find the leg and now they decide to take her to investigate they bring her into the county sheriff's officer questioning after being confronted with hey why is this guy's leg
Starting point is 00:13:26 in the middle of the walking trail by your house you lunatic monica claimed a very bizarre disgusting story is the only way i can describe this folks Monica claimed that one day the previous fall after this guy had had given her his debit card he gave me the debit card and said I could use it whenever I needed to pin in everything he also gave me some money
Starting point is 00:13:51 and some other stuff and he disappeared but then after he was already gone I came out one day and my pigs were having a feeding frenzy and when I looked to see what they were eating I saw old Robert laying there with all of his guts all over the place like snakes and a can
Starting point is 00:14:12 he was being eaten what I believed to be alive she said Monica left Robert's body in the pig pen until the hogs had their fill after a couple of days she scooped up his remains and put them in garbage bags a wild animal later got into one of the bags
Starting point is 00:14:33 and dragged the foot out to the pond she claimed I've been looking for that foot all over. You guys found it in the walking trail? Holy shit. That doesn't sound like she's trying to cover up anything. Like aside from maybe possibly killing him. But her assertion is that he gave her all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And then she's like, wait a second, who's that in the pig pen getting eaten alive? Why it's Mr. Haney? I guess I'll just let the pigs do their thing until, you know, they're ready. and that's a couple days later. And then she bagged up the parts and then that's the end of the story. So if I have that straight, that's not very...
Starting point is 00:15:13 No, we're not done. Okay. We're not done. So the cops are like, what did you do? She says, well, when I saw him eating him, I went up to the, I went up to the,
Starting point is 00:15:26 to my shed there. And I did, I also grabbed my shotgun and I put him out of his misery, you know, because he was alive when they were doing it. Okay. Oh, so you shot him in the head. Well, yeah, but it's because the pigs were eating them.
Starting point is 00:15:40 So then they say to her, Monica, question for you, if I were to look around this property more, would I find any more bodies out there, Monica? And she drew a little map of her property for her. She said, right there, that's where you're going to find Steve. And they went, who's Steve? And she said, well, Steve was another guy I had
Starting point is 00:16:07 working for me and Steve died he shot himself a bunch of times in the head with my gun and I fed him to the I fed what was left with him to the piece because you know I won't take care of them and then I buried what was left
Starting point is 00:16:23 in a good Christian way over here were the exes wow they said so he shot himself in the head a whole bunch of times yep that's right bunch of times in the head and daddy buried himself
Starting point is 00:16:35 Now, I wonder, like, in an area like this, like, I'm not sure where this person lives, but they have to be on the cop's radar on some level, right? Like somebody that weird that lives in a half barn, half house, pig woman slash man. I guess she gave people deals on meat. That's it, 80 cents a pound? That is pretty good. I mean, you look at the price of bacon these days. And even if it was partly Mr. Haney, 80 cents a pound is not the worst deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:09 And I mean, this is how people described her in the town. I bet you'll hear this this time. I think a lot of times it's just the look. And she'd come in and be dirty from working on her property. She was very big. Yeah, they called her fat too. They thought she was big, fat, and dirty. That's what everybody thought of her.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And she had this stupid wig. I mean, she really she really did look like freaking Popeye. Look at this. She got out of the Navy and then I'll bring this one back. It may sound amusing
Starting point is 00:17:45 but women are confusing to pop by the sale. Yeah, she's not great. So they start question and they said, so listen, level with us. You told us where these two are. Are there any more bodies out here?
Starting point is 00:18:01 She goes, well, if I told you about the other 17, I'd spend the rest of my life in jail. Oh, boy. And she was literally trying to still convince them. I'm not going to tell you about anything else because these two, the one shot himself in the head a bunch of times. I had nothing to do with that. And then the other one, he was being eaten to death by my pigs. And I put him out of his misery. Would you like to know how long it took the jury to convict Susan Monica of
Starting point is 00:18:31 murder i like it when it's like two hours or under take the under one one hour by the time they were done going through all the forensics and then also her behavior in jail was astounding she confessed to other people in the jail just told them what happened to robert hainey she said he was drunk and he she didn't like the way he was talking to him so she shot him and threw him in the pig pet so she that these people wasn't testified against her at the trial they're like yeah we were sitting at lunch and she's just sitting over there like hey you guys well hear her story um that that's the other thing that the people do when they get to jail they can't help but tell their story now sometimes it's a jailhouse snitch who will just make something up to try to get some time cut off his own sentence but many times it seems like they're just like it's just spilling out of them they have to tell someone they have to have that recognition i'm telling you do and it's and it's terrible because she also signed someone's birthday card while she was in jail it's terrible because let me just say this too but before i preface this part not all of these people want to get out of jail
Starting point is 00:19:44 every single person that's in jail wants to be out of jail i pretty much believe that so if you're going out and confessing things people are going to tell on you yeah they're going to tell on you they're going to tell on you this lady someone had a birthday she signed the birthday card the sweetest murderer in Jackson County. Good old Susan Monica. Was she a grandmotherly type? That hardened, ruddy face doesn't say nice grandma.
Starting point is 00:20:20 She's a fucking pop-eye. Would you like to hear an excerpt from the trial when she confronted the people who were lying about her? Sure. He's just an old grove phony baloney. yeah that's what she said did that hold up or no no no i didn't no she's just walking through jail all happy confessing to everybody bum titty bum bum just having a blast so damn 50 years in prison she got that's all they gave her they didn't give her life she got 50 years to 25 years to be served uh concurrently so
Starting point is 00:20:54 when first 25 her up she starts serving the second 25 either way she'll be dead so sentence yeah she's not only a disgusting smelly fat person those are the worst kind of fat people they're my people I'll tell you the worst kind of the smelly one she just stunk
Starting point is 00:21:15 she's dumb she straight up murdered people because she didn't like the way she talked to him and she's a liar a liar and listen you don't want to sit next to pop by the sailor man
Starting point is 00:21:32 and a wig on the bus so to get back to the definition of a creep right Brian take it away tell everybody who your creep is this week okay mine is Robert Picton now I know that like
Starting point is 00:21:45 it's frowned upon to just you know grab stuff for Wikipedia and go from that so I did and I watched a documentary I looked up a couple different sources online and of course you look at Wikipedia and what I discovered is
Starting point is 00:21:58 doing all that shit is also on Wikipedia. It's all there. There's, I learned nothing new from watching a documentary or reading all these other news sources than was already on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is the source of every true crime podcast, Brian. It's the story and documentary. Yeah. I love it. You know what? I thought we have a friend that comes from a up by you guys. He lives in near Buffalo, I believe. And he said documentary and how I ridiculed him for not saying documentary until I found out it was a regional dialect. I had to apologize to the guy. Oh. You guys
Starting point is 00:22:33 say documentary. Down here we say documentary. We're stupid up here. I don't know what to tell you. That's pretty cool, though. Like is his name Red? His name is not Red. It's Frank Five. Okay. Okay. I know a filmmaker in Buffalo, too.
Starting point is 00:22:51 All right. Sorry. So, okay, so Robert Picton. Yeah. Let's get back to your Wikipedia story. Yes. And this, uh, this This March, this February marked 21 years. It's a 21st anniversary since they raided the pig farm of Robert Picton, one of Canada's most prolific serial killers. On February 6th, 2002, they searched Robert,
Starting point is 00:23:12 please, sorry, search Robert and his brother David Pickton's farm following reports of illegal firearms. That's what they went under the guise of somebody reported seeing some illegal guns, some unregistered guns there. They have to have a reason to go in. They got to have some reason. It can never be the real reason, you know. And what they found became one of the largest crime scenes Canada has ever seen.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And later on, Robert William Picton was later connected to the disappearances of many women from Vancouver's downtown east side, which is, I'm not sure if you know, but this is a very like, very, it's like eight blocks. So it's like a skid row, highly concentrated with like sex workers, drug addicts, homeless, that kind of thing. Oh, yeah. You know, what we what we see all over today, you know? Yeah, mini Vegas. So yeah, yeah, pretty much. So Robert William, they call him Willie, Picked him was born in 1949 and raised on a pig farm. And as a child, he spent long hours on the farm, slapping the pigs and looking after the animals.
Starting point is 00:24:20 His mother and father were pig farmers. He's born into it. I feel like that's the only way you become something like that is like you're born into like my father was a construction worker I saw how it sucked I'm like I don't want to be a fucking construction worker right but like a pig farmer you're out there in the middle of nowhere you're probably pretty isolated as a like as a kid I wasn't forced to perform construction but I'm sure he had to like he like they said he had to slop the pigs and all that shit so it's like you had options yeah yeah he's gonna be a pig guy yeah yeah he's gonna be a pig guy yeah he's like that's the thing that sucks imagine being like a farmer's kid because the second year parent croaks you're responsible for us that shit like you got to take care of it oh yeah my wife and i um have gone back and rewatch little house on the prairie okay and the amount of chores these kids have to do and seemingly like so happy to do them sure ma help out whatever you need pa we'll we'll go to school all day then we'll do our chores then we'll do our homework then
Starting point is 00:25:23 we'll fucking plow the field. Like they just, I don't know. Little house on the prairie is such a whitewash. I feel like it really is. Though they have some like really out there episodes. Like there was a double episode where there was a girl who was like, there was a rapist in town and like he raped this young girl. She's 13.
Starting point is 00:25:42 She got pregnant. It was going to run away with Albert. There's a dude who was like addicted to morphine. And. And so these were the after school special version. The dude, OD's in the middle of the woods and his mom like stumbles across him. Oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I've never seen that. Yeah, there's a couple of really like episodes that you're like, this is bizarre. Like you're just like so out of left field compared to the rest of them. Interested. Well, so this guy, he's out with the pigs. He's a, he's a farmer by trade. Yep. His mother was very demanding, prioritizing the pigs over the brother's personal hygiene and
Starting point is 00:26:20 forcing them to work long hours raising the. the farm's livestock. Here's another thing that seems to be common with pig people. She sent them to school in unwashed, dirty clothes, reeking of manure, earning the brothers the nickname Stinky Piggy. Not the most creative, but definitely, like, there's no room for error. It didn't even call it like Sticky Piggy one and two. It was just they were all sticky piggies. Stinky pigs, yeah, I guess, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:47 And it says here, again, this is another thing common with guys like this, strongly attached to his mother little interaction with the abusive father even though the mother was also abusive like they seemed like a lot of these serial killers seems to be like mama boys you know i'm guessing she didn't hit his hard probably not yeah she probably just yell she was her thing was more emotional you know emotional abuse come on stinky piggy why do you stink so bad because of you bob wash my fucking clothes like we all went to school with a stinky piggy too like you knew who he was or she was they never had a chance yeah oh no he's like you know thank god you weren't stinky piggy you know how goddamn heart it has to be to be a teacher oh just to look at all
Starting point is 00:27:34 the little stinky pickies in your class and just know what's coming their way yep yeah like this one this one and this one like you even know it like even going to like a regular old white suburban school like us like we were like lower middle class you could pick out the people that you're like this guy will not last past 30 drug addiction this or that and you usually mail it you know there was a kid in my class he was three of me now like it was really like freakish like freakishly obese like heading to tlc kind of obese kind of a kid who smelled horrible and his mom was like just as big and like you just matter you're like oh dude you're ruined uh you're not even out of junior high yet dude you're ruined yeah like terrible no future what
Starting point is 00:28:20 whatsoever. Yeah. I don't even think this kid could be a hog farmer. He could feed the hogs for fucking weeks. So he dropped out of school, Willie, and he left a butcher's apprenticeship to begin working full-time at his family's pig farm and is believed to have begun murdering people in the early 1980s after inheriting the farm. He was arrested.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Can I ask you a question there? Yeah, sure. A terrible demotion. He was almost out. he could have been a butcher he could have been working a nice butcher shop had a normal life he could have left the meat at work and gone home but he goes for the farm freaking terrible yeah and there's another thing like guys that like have the ability to work in a slaughterhouse or butchering animals I think there's just like a certain detachment from life that you have to have in order to like yeah be cutting cows throats and beheading chickens and all kinds of shit you know you Speaking of butchers, Dr. Steve, thanks for the two bucks. All right. I'm on vacation and Carl's turn into Candleff.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Hey, Dr. Steve. Do you have to be fucked up in the head to want to be the, do the butchering part of it, I think? Not really. I mean, it is a trade. Like, I mean, it's just like any other trade. People want their meat. Somebody's got to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah. And I'm glad that they're ghouls that want to. I think you have to have to have a certain degree of. golishness about you to be like, that's where I want to work. Yeah. You've got to be detached, man. Yeah, I got a cousin who owns like a funeral home up in, uh, up in Serenac Lake up in the mountains and the Adirondacks.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And I got to tell you, man, I wouldn't know how to have a conversation with that human. Another thing like mortuary type stuff, like funeral home types of another business that you're kind of born into, right? Oh, yeah. It's always a family business. Yeah. you have to have the genes bred into you to make you think that this is
Starting point is 00:30:22 the normal way to behave. I don't know a lot of people are like, you know what? I've been looking at all the programs they have at community college and I'm leaning towards mortuary science. Like you never see that in the commercials. No, definitely not. Those are like the emo chicks in the community college. I don't know what I want to do.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I want to continue through the darkness. Into the main cavity of people's bodies where I'll suck out their guts. and then charge their families for it. All right. So he inherits the family farm, disgusting. Yep.
Starting point is 00:30:58 He eventually got, well, I won't get into that just a second. The brothers began to neglect the site's farming operations. Instead, they registered a nonprofit charity called the Piggy Palace Good Time Society, which if I had a shirt that said that, I would be so happy. Okay, we need that, May. What did you say the name of that is? The Piggy Palace. The Piggy Palace Good Times Society.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Name of this episode. Right there, kids. It's the name of this episode. They registered it with the government in 1996, claiming to organize, coordinate, manage, and operate special events, functions, dances, shows, and exhibitions on behalf of service organizations, sports organizations, and other worthy groups,
Starting point is 00:31:43 which I guess is what you have to do in order to register for a charity. Sure. In reality, what they were doing was they were going down and picking up all these sex workers from this area that they called the low track area. That's in the downtown east side of Vancouver. And they would bring them all back to the farm where they would party with drugs and like hell's angels would frequent the parties. I guess guys would pay to like show up and bang the prostitutes and take drugs and shit. And they said that these, I mean, it says these events attracted as many as 1800. people you know that's a that's a party man that's a big party but that's also a new definition of
Starting point is 00:32:24 a pig farm yeah right oh if you see the victims like i i know you know posthumously it's not nice to comment on their looks but i think enough time has passed to say that like of the 49 women i think he was accused of killing uh 48 of them were like you would just pass on hard pass and that's again they say in true crime stuff all the time they call them the less dead the ugly fat prostitutes are less dead considered less dead by police now listen man i got i got to i got to do this real quick um i got some new last week we joked about how we should have a victim blaming jingle okay this one might just work right here maybe you're dead
Starting point is 00:33:10 i'm a blame me all on you you got brave and you should have been more careful thank you so much for that one i love it we got yeah go ahead i was going to say like in in reference to the victim blaming it is extremely difficult to point a finger at the cops and be like you're not paying as much attention to these women who are disappearing from this low track area where they're known to be transient. They're known to disappear for weeks, months, sometimes years at a time.
Starting point is 00:33:51 They're known to have a high mortality rate. And you're not paying the same attention to them that you would have, say, six women from a suburban area, like within the same two blocks went missing. It's like one is like completely unheard of. the other is like business as usual that's why these fucking guys get away with stacking bodies to the ceiling in their houses yeah because they're just nobody gives a shit or it's just like how do cops keep unless like the other prostitutes are like hey wendy was here yesterday she left with a guy said she'd be right back i haven't seen her in two days and if the cop ignores that that okay you can sit point the finger out of them and say something but if a if they're unaware like how they i mean i saw like like I don't have the multimedia presentation like you. I'm not good at that kind of stuff. Apparently either did I today.
Starting point is 00:34:44 But like, I mean, it's just a city block. It looks like Mardi Gras almost. There's just, it's bodies just like right next to each other everywhere, just like slumped over or like smoking something or selling their body, whatever. It's like, how are you supposed to remember any one face out of that crowd and be like, Hmm, where has she been the past two days? Yeah, I've been less haunted lately. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I got to comment to Uncle Sammy Pooh. That's right. This was your idea for the jingle, the victim-blaming jingle. We got another one in, too. I'm going to throw it in here just because I don't want to forget. This one was from the Great Seamus. The other one is from Hedge Lord on Discord. I want to make sure they get their credit where it's due.
Starting point is 00:35:35 but I did not blame no murder A variety to choose from here at the Creepoff I'm very happy about that Tony from Hack the Movies text to be a really good idea for oneself If anybody's listening and feeling saucy And wants to create this for me, I'll love them forever Do you ever hear that Motorhead song
Starting point is 00:35:57 That Triple H used to use? It's time to play the game Oh yeah, yeah It's time to victim blame I think it would be amazing. That's all I'm saying, folks. So the bodies are stacking up at the old pig farm yet? They just have parties with horrors.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Well, they're partying. And at one point, Picton was actually charged with the attempted murder of a woman who he had stabbed several times during an altercation. She said that he had handcuffed her, but she had escaped, I guess after stabbing him back with his own weapon, and she disarmed them. They ended up in the same hospital.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And when the cops went to check Picton, he had the handcuff key in his pocket. So a pig put it there, officer. One of my pigs put it in there. I did not put that key in my pocket. Busted. So there was a guy. His name was Bill Hiscox.
Starting point is 00:36:56 And he was a worker there at the farm. He called the farm a creepy looking place and described Picton is a pretty quiet guy whose occasional bizarre behavior despite no evidence of substance abuse would draw attention so over the course of three years I guess there was no there was no more bullshit after the stabbing of the lady they were just having parties and having a good time but the worker his cox he noticed that women who visited the farm eventually went missing and eventually that's when the police executed the search warrant for illegal firearms at the property both the brothers were arrested and police
Starting point is 00:37:33 a second warrant using what they had seen on the property to search the farm as part of the British Columbia missing women investigation since personal items belonging to the missing women were found at the farm the following day they picked and was charged with weapons offenses and they were both later released I don't know I don't know what the laws are in Canada you can do this kind of stuff well I mean my whole argument is we have parties with 1800 people people leave ship behind what do you want mean to tell you. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, this is our lost and found. Yeah. It's not our stash. It's the lost and found officer. Give me a break. They kept Willie Picked under police surveillance. He was arrested in charge with two accounts of first degree murder. And then
Starting point is 00:38:21 additional charges eventually brought the number of charges to 27 counts of first degree murder. And his brother, David, wasn't charged in the murders, but was convicted of rape. Excavations continued at the farm. This was in 2002 that they got arrested. Excavations continued at the farm through 2003. The cost of the investigation was about somewhere around $70 million Canadian by the end of 2003, the most expensive criminal investigation in Canadian history. And forensic analysis proved difficult because the bodies may have been left to decompose or be eaten by insects and pigs on the farm during the early days of the excavation, forensic anthropologists brought in heavy equipment
Starting point is 00:39:02 to find traces of human remains and it was revealed by the government in 2004 that Picton may have ground up human flesh and mixed it with pork that he sold to the public the province's health authority later issued a warning that he fell and another claim was that he fed bodies directly to his pigs
Starting point is 00:39:23 you know people want to complain about having an FDA but you know I think think it's necessary. You kind of need one. You kind of have to have one. That's disgusting. What's that? See, I feel like my lady was a little smarter here, but she probably, if she had just gotten rid of the remains a little bit better, because what she did is, we just, yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:51 leave them around for animals to fucking drag them all over the place. But like the idea with my lady was she just fed her pigs with the people. people and your dude was just like mixing the meat of the dead people with the pigs well to sell it yeah I guess to sell it and serve breakfast and shit like that um there was a media ban on this it was considered too uh too grotesque for the public I suppose uh so a lot of this like wasn't known until later on you know the all the evidence and the details uh the crown reported to reported that This is one of the reasons he got busted. He told an officer that he wanted to kill another woman to make it an even 50
Starting point is 00:40:36 and that he was caught because he was sloppy. The media ban was then lifted, and for the first times, Canadian heard the details of what was found during the long investigation. Skulls cut in half with hands and feet stuffed inside. The remains of one victim found stuffed in a garbage bag. Her bloodstained clothing found in Picton's trailer. Jawbone and teeth were found behind the slaughterhouse. And this is it.
Starting point is 00:41:00 This is what I think is going to put me over the top. And he might be doing that polar plunge. A 22-caliable revolver with an attached dildo containing both his and the victim's DNA. Yep. He put a dildo on the end of a gun because he thought it would make it a silencer. Oh, did it work? I don't think it worked. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I'm sorry. I got to give us some love over here. Animal Cali, 100 bucks. Thank you, sir. All right. I was worried with no Carl, but so far, you're keeping my attention, fellas. Brian Johnson, what are you doing on Mondays? I know, stepping in the Carl's shoes. Well, I don't know. What kind is he shoes does he wear with those weird feet of his? Well, I might not, I might not fit in them. You could wear the shoes. You just aren't going to need as much binding around you to get them to fit. Somebody tweeted something, a picture of club feet at me, and I got to tell you something.
Starting point is 00:41:57 If that's what's under Carl's shoes, I am horrified. Like you're done with him? Like, do the show from your house, you fucking Hobbit. But I'm sorry, go ahead. Okay, so here's some of the, some of the evidence that they presented. About 80 unidentified DNA profiles, roughly half male and half female was detected. So he was killing guys too. We heard about the dildo gun, ammunition night vision goggles, fur-lined handcuffs,
Starting point is 00:42:34 a syringe with three milliliters of blue liquid inside and a Spanish fly aphrodisiac. There was a videotape of Picton's friend, Scott Chubb, saying Picton had told him a good way to kill a female heroin addict was to inject her with windshield washer fluid, and that's what was in the syringes. And he said that he had killed sex workers by handcuffing them and strangling them, and then bleeding them and gutting them before feeding them to the pigs. Oh, he did feed them to the pigs. Did feed them to the pigs, yep. And then photos of the contents of a garbage can were found in Picton's slaughterhouse,
Starting point is 00:43:05 which held some remains of one of the victims. On December 9th, 2007, the jury returned a verdict that Picton is not guilty on six counts, but is guilty on six counts. And then they just sort of like, with the other counts, they were like, look, the guys in jail for life at this point, we're not going to go to the, it's already been expensive enough. we're not going to go and you already eat you already ate the meat eh what do you want us to do yeah basically it's now canadian bacon oh god um this guy sounds like he was a lot of fun though
Starting point is 00:43:37 like he had friends yeah stinky piggy was able to beat that that name that nickname and become like sort of like a steve rubel party promoter type guy dude and that's the beauty of had drugs and hookers like anybody get you popular it makes everything okay you get the benefit as soon as you got a hook girl one arm and some fucking coke at the other hand man people are like let's be friends i'm fucking i'm super mad at that point yeah um i got to ask you this question though when they started finding out there were more bodies more like did they contact the victims families and stuff on this there were these people just like unknown they just found the bodies do they have any idea who any of these women were well i think they they had the missing poster of like and there's
Starting point is 00:44:28 also well some of them was somebody's job to like dissect pignee or like pork from the store to look for human DNA this is disgusting yeah they didn't really go into any of that they did say though that there were other suspects and if i'll say it slowly so if people want to look these people up they can other suspects at the time they considered were gary ridgway dayton leroy rogers Jeperson, who was the happy face killer, George Waterfield Russell, Robert Yates, John Eric Armstrong, and Robert Richard McCauley. And the reason I give those names is because I have been, you know, I watch a lot of true crime stuff. And I'm always fascinated by the killer. So I'm like, this person killed 11 people.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I've never heard of them. Like, why does this guy get all the attention and nothing is said about this guy? You know, like you just, but there's so many fuckups out. there, man, there's so many psychopaths that just like, I guess they kill people, they get away with it, you don't hear about them, or it's just like, for whatever reason, not sensationalized as much as, you know, happy-faced guy, because he left a happy face. That's what distinguished him. The wet bandits, man. You got to have a calling card. Gary Ridgway was the Green River killer, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. Because they said he visited that area. Yeah, they think they were like,
Starting point is 00:45:48 well, who else is sort of an ammo like this? And then I guess they slowly but surely. said, you know, it was just, it was just this dude, this fucking party animal. Willie Picton. Do you think the Willie Picton situation was kind of like the Henry Lee Lucas situation in a way, do you know about that, where that guy, he murdered a bunch of people in Texas, and then they basically gave him burgers to confess to other, like burgers. Yeah, I saw that documentary. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Now, did you kill this woman? I certainly did for something off the dollar made you. I'm loving it. Henry Lee Lucas, I remember reading about him in the. the 80s, you know, I was into a true crime book about him in the 80s. And I was like, oh, my God, this guy killed 600 people because I just believed it. I was like 18 at the time. But then the more you read, you're like, wait a second, this seems not realistic. And then when you see the documentary about, you know, burgers for bodies kind of thing, because these cops just want to close cases,
Starting point is 00:46:43 I think that with the amount of evidence found on this guy's farm, his admissions, the DNA from all these different bones, like 80 different people, I think it's likely that his body count was pretty high. Yeah. I'm not going to, I'm not going to say that it wasn't. I'm just going to say they probably, the cop snuck a couple in there just to clear the books is all I'm saying, Bray. It wouldn't be unheard of. It would not be unheard of. All right. So I guess this week, your choices are Susan Monica or Robert Willie Picton. Bri, if you don't mind at the end of the show today. We're going to keep the show. I want to keep the show going because I'm going to represent my creep because nobody could hear me. Do you mind? Oh, okay. No, I don't mind it at all.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Okay. So stay tuned after the end of this. We're just going to keep things moving. And as they say in the biz, we'll fix it in post. You guys are super cool. Who's watched, all of you watching live. I believe Carl is the one who usually does who are these creepos. So fuck it. This isn't who are these podcasts. Say this is the creep off. God damn it. Let's do some voice. voicemails. The creepoff voicemail segment is brought to by the city of Syracuse. The University of Syracuse is a brand new marijuana business program. Great.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Now you can graduate college and still disappoint your parents. See you in Syracuse. All right. We have a suggestion for the wheel of consequences, Brian. Oh. Hey, Vinnie. Hey, Carl. Just thought of something for the Wheel of Consequences.
Starting point is 00:48:18 consequences. I think that either one of you two guys, because you live in Rochester, uh, you guys should take a page from Opie's book and have to sit there in traffic, or not in traffic, but on the side of the street, waiting for the street sweeper to come by and leave in the parking spot and fight with the street sweeper, the, uh, the little guys that like to roll around and hand out, fuck you tickets to everybody and live stream at the entire time. That shit would be so, fucking hilarious to see Carl just sitting there sweating bullets waiting
Starting point is 00:48:52 for that shit to happen. So yeah, just a thought. Thank you. Sir, I'm going to say this. This consequence is just harassed civil servants. Is that what we're talking about here? Carl would love that because he's such a libertarian lunatic. He'll scream at a postal worker, I would imagine. But that's kind of a weird one. I don't think I want to
Starting point is 00:49:14 hassle anybody at their jobs. let alone invite some potentially criminal conduct who knows right cops now i busted with a misdemeanor so people are very upset at carl because he hasn't gotten his consequence of going to church done or go driving to gary indiana i reminder i'm about to finish my semenology consequence very soon i swear oh i'm carl i'm too busy on sunday to go worship gun a buck tooth dumb face they have services throughout the week just go to one of them
Starting point is 00:49:54 hell go to a benediction that would be hilarious you'd be so fucking bored dude oh my god find a catholic church doing a benediction just go sit there just be alone with your own thoughts for like an hour and a half he couldn't handle and then they end it somehow i forget do that that'd be great they do it on like wednesday so just go do that go fuck yourself
Starting point is 00:50:16 I'm convinced, by the way, that Carl is not capable of spending a moment with his own thoughts. I hadn't considered that. Think about that for a set. Like, you know the second he tries to stop, he just hears like Patty C cups or fucking over. Like that shit's like burned into the back of his brain. He's incapable. He doesn't have that skill anymore. He burnt it all the way listening to shitty podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Yeah. You know, he should have gone to had to go to our bar mitzvah. I went to, like, the ceremony. I went to my cousin's bar mitzvitz was like the ceremony prior. It was three hours long in a language I did not understand. Holy shit. That's terrible. This is a good idea.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Carl should go to a church of Satan and cringe to death. They get cool robes, though. They're so comfortable. He's going, I picked the church. He's going to one of those mega churches where they have the guys with the cool guitars, but with the duchiest music. Oh, yeah. Where they have, like,
Starting point is 00:51:19 it's amazing these churches. They have, like, he's such a musician and loves that stuff. These churches have the best equipment you're going to find, like absolutely gorgeous stuff. And they play the worst music in the world. It's going to kill him. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I cannot wait. All right. From the cow photographer. Cow photographer has some thoughts. Hey, a cow photographer here. Carl, you've been taking so long. to do this church thing that uh i think the punishment needs to be escalated you only have to do
Starting point is 00:51:50 one hour a fucking sermon which isn't that big video easter's coming up uh i suggest that faro has to go to a good friday uh sermon and holy thursday and easter sunday that's april six seven to nine barrow all three you have to go to all three now and learn about the resurrection of christ and save your fucking soul fuck you that you did this to yourself. Now you have to go to three hours. Vinnie, make it happen. I love you, Vinny. Love you back.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I feel like that's a good one. I actually kind of like that consequence. Brian said, your Carl today. Do you agree to it? I agree. Great. So let it be written. So let it be done.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Oh, man. He would not do well with having to go back three times. And you know, what would be the worst for him is if he shows up multiple times to the same church, they're going to think they got one on the hook. Right. They're going to get extra interested in him and start trying to talk to him and oh, press him for his information.
Starting point is 00:52:55 That's not going to go well. Imagine he like, he like they got him and he converted. Next thing you know, he's going to the mega church every week. He's in the band maybe. Who knows? Why does all these him selling shitty surf music?
Starting point is 00:53:12 Yeah. Jesus Holy Spirit This is This one is really interesting And I got to tell you If this is true We have a problem on our hands
Starting point is 00:53:30 Brian Ah fuck Vinny I was voting for you And a couple of guys Just jumped me And said Stop
Starting point is 00:53:35 Start voting for Carl Fuck you Carl You should get a point doctor Yeah Oh It's been going around Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:53:44 people are just getting attacked that are associated with podcasts it's amazing all right those are our voicemails this week and i guess that means it's time for an old school scum parade how's that sound bry i love a scum parade me too let's get it going Scum parade Take me on a rain Of these fuck charades That these creeps have made Scum parade
Starting point is 00:54:10 Avidian car I'm gonna tell you about some fuck shit Scum parade Like stories of a kid Fucked by his mama dad Who's soaking up the blood of a cat Scum parade I'm feeling heavy on the jingles today.
Starting point is 00:54:32 We're starting in Florida, so I'm going to do it. Come on Florida I love that one Somebody said it's not like she was singing into a toilet Okay All right You ever had a three-way go bad, Brian? I have not
Starting point is 00:55:21 I've only had them go right, thankfully Which is why I'm not on the internet like this Okay, a sexual threesome and Florida dissolved into a violent encounter that resulted in two of the participants, a woman and a man in handcuffs, not the Robert Picton fuzzy kind. According to arrest reports, the threesome occurred early Monday at a residence in Marathon Beach in the Florida Keys, the home's occupant, Stephen Lopez, he's 31 years old, and his girlfriend, Angela Vasquez's 20, told police they were in an open relationship, and invited Della Draper,
Starting point is 00:55:54 29 years old over to have sexual intercourse Lopez said he met Draper while driving for a marathon taxi service and gave her his Facebook information Now I'm not going to say that this Della lady is easy But
Starting point is 00:56:13 She's not even getting his phone number And he's a cab driver She's like going with the cab driver Who's giving him his Facebook Right That's a weird dynamic out of the gate, don't you think? It's, yeah, like, if I were a taxi driver,
Starting point is 00:56:28 it would not occur to me to give anyone any of my personal information. But I guess, you know, they're down in the keys, right? If I'm not mistaken. Yeah, Florida, you know, I've been to the Keys many times. There's a certain type of laid-back, drunk, drug-addled attitude that a lot of people in the Keys have that, like, this would be just sort of like, well, it's Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Of course, I gave my Facebook information to a taxi passenger. Like, I don't know how that you make that initial connection, though. That's what I would be bad at. For a state full of maniacs, they do seem laid back. Yeah. Yeah. So according to the arrest reports, the threesome occurred early Monday. Okay, so I'm going to have a threesome Monday afternoon with the cab driver.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Okay. The whole, these people, Lopez and Vasquez told the cops that while the trio was having sex, Draper became extremely disrespectful. Now, this requested, this prompted them to request her to leave the residence. Now, according to Draper, she became upset when Lopez and Vasquez, quote, tried to dominate her sexually inside the house. Draper told police that she, quote, told Stephen he has a little dick and his wife had, quote, stank pussy. Now, that is a terrible combination. Little dick plus stank pussy.
Starting point is 00:57:50 One or the other, maybe you could handle. It sounds like exactly what you're going to get in a Florida three-way. Arranged in a taxi cab. You're going to get a cab driver who looks like Brian and a woman who looks like me. That's what you're going to get. And you don't know which of us has the steak pussy, which has little dick. Yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:58:14 I'm looking at their pictures like, I mean, the woman, the Draper woman is pretty gross. But I feel like the Vasquez lady, like remember that show, the swan where they would like give you like new teeth and new eyes and like i'll bet you if they swaned her she wouldn't be too bad looking yeah but you know what though that's the one she called stank pussy yeah oh i don't know how what they could do about that yeah do they have listerine for that i don't fucking know so a physical confrontation ensued after she insulted them with draper alleging that she was punched had her hair pulled and was thrown outside as she drove away from the home now draper added a cinder block was
Starting point is 00:58:52 throwed through the rear window of her Nissan Ultima. Lopez and Vasquez said that when Draper, seated on a couch, refused to leave their home, they forcibly remove Draper by picking her up and placing her down outside the front door of her residence. I mean, the
Starting point is 00:59:08 only question is like, what is the blood alcohol content of each of these people? Because this is like there's no way you're straight, you know, like sober doing shit like this. It's a Monday afternoon, Brian. What are we implying about these people's character?
Starting point is 00:59:25 I mean, every single thing you can point to is like, this is out of the ordinary. Fucking wheege, hold on. You're an outside horn. Get out. Get out of here. So the choices for this are either they picked her up like a piece of furniture and moved her to the curb. Or they threw her out like Uncle Phil did it in jazz on fucking fresh prints. It's either or we don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:59:52 here. So they allege that after they left her outside by place you're down gently and easily. Draper then got in her car the couple ledger that drove the vehicle backwards towards the home's front door where Lopez and Vasquez were standing. After the
Starting point is 01:00:08 auto struck Vasquez's leg, Lopez said he threw the center block at the Nissan. Okay. There's a lot of different stories happening here. Yeah. Draper that exited the car. Vasquez told police and swung a close fist in her, but missed.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Vasquez added that she responded by punching Draper in the face. Okay. So one person made contact, Draper was punched in the face. Vasquez Lopez and Draper, they charged Lopez with a felony for throwing the cinder block. Well, Vasquez was hit with a misdemeanor battery account for striking Draper. While Lopez bonded out of jail, Vasquez remains in custody and may be facing additional criminal charges, since she told police that she is currently on probation
Starting point is 01:00:53 and was not allowed to leave the state of Connecticut. Draper. To herself. Oh, man. Draper, a mother of two who works as a housekeeper, was not charged in connection with the March 6'3. But Draper was arrested yesterday for felony aggravated battery for allegedly striking another sexual partner
Starting point is 01:01:14 in his face with a glass vase, partially filled with gravel and rocks. Less than 24 hours later Like if one of these things happens to you in a lifetime It's amazing And you're like, that's the story you tell This is twice within a 24 hour period She's like the female Chad Zubox
Starting point is 01:01:35 She's just a fucking hurricane going through Florida She's fucking starting problems So the alleged attack happened early Wednesday came after what a witness described as a three-subit Draper's Grassy Key residence The 31-year-old male victim identified by cops as the father of Draper's trial, suffered superficial laceration,
Starting point is 01:01:53 swallowing in redness to the left side of his face in the interior of his upper lip. At this time, Draper was free on body connection with the bust. It was also free on bond for a connection with her bust last year for a battery and a law enforcement officer, possession of drug paraphernalia,
Starting point is 01:02:14 tampering with evidence and resisting arrest, as detailed in the July, 22 report. Draper was a passenger at an SUV that was spotted swerving on a marathon roadway after the vehicle which was stopped which was being driven by a 39 year old female friend of Draper was pulled over.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Draper allegedly tried to dispose of an open bottle of tequila. She also reportedly scuffled with the cops who reported fighting drug paraphernalia beneath her seat. So this lady's got quite the record but I'm going to read the last paragraph of this because it was an attention grabber. This story kept me from the top to the bottom
Starting point is 01:02:47 Brian. Well, Draper or friend who was arrested out of DUI count were being driven to the Key West jail. They began engaging in romantic acts in the rear of the police cruiser. This lady is so horny, Brian. She's committed, man. She's committed. She's the haughtiest gal in Florida. So she's making out with this other woman in the back of the cops. They're both in handcuffs. Cops reported that Draper whose hands were cuffed in front of her was fondling and kissing her friend. The officer had to stop the car and then handcuffed Draper with her hands behind her back. Draper reportedly responded by pulling the rear of her bathing suit to the side and asking the officer, would you like to see my asshole?
Starting point is 01:03:28 Mother of two. And here's the thing. She's a housekeeper, dude. People invite her into their house to come clean. This filthy woman is running around cleaning people's houses. She's not passing any fucking Angie's list background check? No. No way.
Starting point is 01:03:47 that has to be like it's your neighbor somebody you know and you know she also cleans houses and you're elderly so you don't have many options but like yeah anybody anybody inviting this woman into their house has to be insane yeah just my look is like you can see the look like she said like got that dead-eyed look you know she looks like a good time yeah and a nightmare all rolled into one it's a hurricane behind those eyes all right next creep venissa maldonado 25 years old has been charged with attempted murder and felony child abuse, Brian. A California woman's been charged with attempted murder after authorities accused her of dumping her one hour old baby at a gas station trash can while fleeing the scene. What is it with moms that, like, they're not knowledgeable about at this point, you can just drop it off at like a firehouse or a hospital, like, you know, got to throw them in a garbage can anymore. Those days are long behind us. You could go to the firehouse.
Starting point is 01:04:48 They have like a blockbuster return slot. You could stuff a baby through. Yeah. Take it. You don't need this. Here's what I find events. Like you had a baby an hour ago. What are you doing at a gas station?
Starting point is 01:05:01 You need a Gatorade? Like what are you going to there? What are you doing, lady? And the Fulton police department announced her arrest in connection with the discovery of the baby in a bathroom trash can at the gas station. They don't know where she gave birth. right and i mean who could tell if it was even in the bathroom
Starting point is 01:05:22 and it's a gas station bathroom every gas station bathroom i've ever been into it looks like somebody just had a C-section in there anyway yeah i remember when brittany spears was up they caught her walking out of a rest stop gas station bathroom with no shoes on oh god years ago i remember thinking like oh my god who would do that
Starting point is 01:05:44 Britney Spears she's out of her goddamn mind yeah it's great it's great that we freed her right free brittany free brittany and now look at her just fucking running through broken glass barefoot uh showing her tits every chance she gets she really does too like she's just not that's the thing that kills me shows them but doesn't you know they're here you can't see yeah oh brittany come on tease i don't even need to see him at this point i'm good i don't need to see any more of that what's happening i don't need i don't need any more of that like talk about a dead-eyed stare yeah that's true yeah who looks better inside brittany spears or that della danger lady from florida i don't know so back to this story
Starting point is 01:06:28 according to the press release maldonato faces the single charge of felony child abuse now it's unclear she entered pleas to the charges a retained an attorney but basically a gas station employee found the baby placed inside a bag inside of the garbage can so that's got to be fun way to end your shift at the gas station I always wish I could find something like that what a hero you are right
Starting point is 01:06:57 you'd feel good about it it's not a fucking golden ticket you find a baby in a garbage can and you're just like then you're its master you could do anything you could keep it if you wanted you can you can play the hero
Starting point is 01:07:11 and be like hey I save this baby you can play the hero that's your baby yeah i don't think you're allowed to do anything with it really i think you have to like give it up to the cops but like if it's got to go to that child trafficking government thing i keep hearing about they gotta like back into the system if i throw like some potential evidence away in my garbage can the cops can come and look at my garbage can and take it because then it's out there for the public sure so if i find a baby in my garbage can why can't i keep that it's not public baby bry it's not
Starting point is 01:07:40 public baby all right i just you think fucking finders keepers applies to babies i don't i've never looked that deeply into the law but i'm not sure i don't know but i mean you can probably adopt it i'm sure they the government want their peace and charge you fees yeah my wife would kill me should i get rid of that baby put it back on garbage can i don't the gas station baby yeah really you ever brought your wife home something from the gas station and she's been happy come on i can't even i wouldn't even bring her flowered from a gas station, let alone a baby. I have nice single stem roses.
Starting point is 01:08:17 No, thanks. All right. The baby remains hospitalized and critical but stable condition per the outlet. So fingers crossed that this dumps garbage baby will be okay. Now, Brian,
Starting point is 01:08:35 this is a fun story. Vito Giswaldi, who I'm performing with next month at the WATP, Dick Show Road Rager crossover event, in Philadelphia tweeted this. And I couldn't believe this story, slipped under my radar. But a Massachusetts resident doctor allegedly used hidden cameras and had thousands of sexually explicit images and videos of children,
Starting point is 01:08:58 including his patients, according to federal prosecutors, a guy by the name of Dr. Bradford Ferrick. He's 32 years old, was arrested as facing state and federal charges of possession of child pornography following a three-month investigation. Now, on Valentine's Day, Investigator searched his family's Winchester home where they found hidden cameras and boxes and in the bathroom,
Starting point is 01:09:20 which was designed to look like a wall outlet. There are two children that live in the home, ages two and three. Ferrick allegedly bought numerous hidden camera devices, which haven't all been accounted for as of March 14. It is alleged that one of the hidden camera devices, which was designed to be worn as a bracelet, was found to contain at least two serapitiously recorded videos
Starting point is 01:09:48 of ferric administrating medical exams. The ultimate upskirt camera. This guy's got it as a bracelet, and he's a doctor. Unreal. Like, the only other way, like, if he were, like, a shoe salesman, would be good, like, you know, if you had a watch and you were looking up ladies skirts. But the next, like, they can't afford this technology.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Yeah, you're right. No shoe sale. Al Bundy doesn't have the buddy for this. Why is it? And I know this has probably been brought up so many times that it's practically hack at this point. But why when it's like, well, how many images of CP do you have? Nobody's ever like just one. It's always like thousands.
Starting point is 01:10:33 They always say one. They always have thousands. Hard drive. We joke about it on the show all the time. They're fucking the dragons layer. They're just, they, it's like dragons and gold. They hoard as many images as they can. And I think what it is, not that I care what the reasoning is,
Starting point is 01:10:52 but I think what it is, is that this is such a hard thing to get a hold of that once they have it, they don't want to get rid of it because then they never find it again. Right. Like imagine. Every photo is their favorite photo. Like imagine, like, it was a struggle to get to Porn Hub. Like, you could just go to Pornhub. whenever you want to do.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And then you found a video. Like, imagine it's a 1999 again. And the only way you could get porn was to download it off of LimeWyer. And you would save the file because you could just go access it somewhere. Right. I'll never find it again. Right. I think that's what it has to be.
Starting point is 01:11:33 And they're just really perverted, really is really the problem. Actually, I think that's more the issue. And it's always like, they always want to catch kids going to the bathroom. like what's that about like if you're not that i understand it but if you're like you just want a clean shot of the kid the naked or whatever like that almost makes sense but to like watch them go into the bathroom or watch people go into the bathroom i just like i don't get it yeah i don't there's the thrill it's pretty fucking vile to me to be honest with you i can't handle the pee the poo i don't want anything of that any of that yeah like where's where's the
Starting point is 01:12:13 sexiness. So it's alleged that two minors who investigators believe to be patients could be heard and at times partially seen in these videos that he was filming. So in total about 80 devices received from several locations in Massachusetts. And at least one instance, Farik allegedly attempted to lock his phone and remotely wipe C's devices. That never works. I mean, this guy, I, all I kind of. imagining is Paul Dano's Ridler. Like he's like, I
Starting point is 01:12:47 got to set them off before they catch me. Yeah, I don't know why people are still so computer ignorant these days. Like, I watch forensic files before I go to sleep at night. Like, I always turn it on. I fall asleep to it. And there's this one where this lady, it's like in the 90s and she has like an AOL chat
Starting point is 01:13:07 that she, you know, deleted her profile and her chats. But of course, they're still stored somewhere. that's in the 90s what do people think the technology is today like don't even try to wipe it because it's somewhere like even if they don't find it on your phone they're gonna find it yeah it's uh you're fucked you're done you're totally done so don't don't do it and if you do are into children please go get help go talk to someone i don't know what you need to do to fix yourself i know it's not better help actually go talk to someone please or are you allowed
Starting point is 01:13:43 to urge suicide in certain situations, you know? Not on YouTube. No, okay. Not on YouTube. Well, you know, I'm sure, uh, I'm sure that a real medical professional will tell you what to do. Yeah. So 80 devices from multiple locations.
Starting point is 01:14:01 That means this guy was fucking going around planting these and public bathrooms all over the place. And in, I'm guessing at the doctor's offices and, uh, you know, anywhere he could get to. It seems like, I don't know, but he had 80 of them. That tells me that's a lot of planning. Yeah. Now, investigators confiscated 61 devices from his house on the first search February 13th and 11 more during the second search, February 17.
Starting point is 01:14:31 The devices allegedly include external hard drives, computer, cell phones, a hidden camera system, and SD cards that prosecutors said contain thousands of images. Now, a preliminary review of some of the devices sees allegedly, revealed images and videos depicting child pornography of victims who appear to be between the ages of 6 and 11. Ah, the doctor had a type. United States Attorney Anthony Rachel Rollins urged members of the public to contact the FBI and set up this link for parents who have come into contact with Dr.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Farik. So if you took your kids for a check-em-up with Dr. Farik, he was checking him out. He called somebody, okay? You see your kids are on the dark web somewhere now, probably. Yeah. Here's the, here's the most shock, non-shocking part of the story. Before starting his Massachusetts residency, Ferrick lived in Syracuse, New York, between 2018 and 2022, where he attended SUNY upstate medical university. He's a sui, he's a sui grad. He's being held in detention and until probable cause hearing on March 21st. The FBI are the ones who investigate him.
Starting point is 01:15:42 And there was apparently quite the investigation into this guy. And he's facing up to 20 years in prison, if convicted. So I don't know. Hey, McBride's here. Not our fault. The voice of Syracuse is speaking out. The voice of Syracuse tourism, ladies and gentlemen, Brian McBride. Now, last story.
Starting point is 01:16:02 I like naked six-year-old as much as the next guy. I don't like them at all. I don't like them at all. But doesn't it seem like all those cameras, all those recording devices, all those hard drives. It's so much work. I'd rather just look at somebody legal, I think. It's much easier.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Yeah. Just go online. It's right there. I don't want to know what goes through these fucking guys heads with this stuff. I mean, we all know. What happened, man? Like what fucking misfired at some point, you know? Something did.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Yeah, big time. And the problem is there's not good ways to fix it. There's not a lot of good ways to fix it. makes that like you can't use Maxwell silver hammer on these fuckers to just fucking pop him on the head and go oh shit look tits i actually like these these are great i don't know why i was so appalled by these before i don't know all right emma parker she's 39 years old this is a fucked up story how bry well i knew you i knew it wouldn't be an episode of the creep off unless you brought up something like this i was i saw the stories and i was like oh no animal will be so
Starting point is 01:17:08 Oh, there you go. Yeah. But he's got to bring it. Emma Parker, she's 39 years old. She is jailed for at least 12 months. Now, if Carl was here, he would argue that this is quite a stiff penalty for what she did. I would disagree. She's getting 12 months after footage of an incident was posted on social media.
Starting point is 01:17:29 She, the defendant was seen, this is according to the lawyers, was holding a hamster ball with one hand and a big knife. Well, a hamster ball with a hamster in it and a knife. And she was plunging the knife into the opening of the ball, chopping up the hamster. As a spectator's laughing and said, what a sick bitch you are. The hamster can be heard repeatedly squealing. Now, if that was all of it, that's really, it's a fucked up terrible thing to do, torturing small animals. That's serial killer shit. don't hurt animals ever
Starting point is 01:18:07 don't ever hurt a fucking animal please I don't care how small they are don't fucking hurt animals but they don't like it she chopped this fucking hamster in half bry and then she ate it they never say in the article what she's on
Starting point is 01:18:25 that's that's almost like what drug is it that makes you cut your hamster in half and eat it let's talk about Matt baby Let's talk about a yes-er-ree Let's talk about all the bad things And the bad things meth and see Let's talk about meth
Starting point is 01:18:43 I don't know Brian I don't know I can't say She's going to death for 12 months for a hamster murder I say 12 months May not be enough Really I would disagree with Carl totally
Starting point is 01:19:00 I can hear Carl's voice right now For a hamster I'm Carl I'm Carl! No, I can hear him now. I'm 12 months for a hamster. But I think she should get 12 months for being gross.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Yeah, if you see her face, she's pretty disgusting. It looks like she has Bell's palsy or something, like her whole side of her face is sagging. Again, dead-eyed fucking look, man. Like, look of a hamster eater. Hamster murderer slash eater. Yeah. Like they say, a serial killers. It's like if you're killing small animals, if you're torturing animals, it's like it's indicative of something bigger. So like, yeah, like make it, like making her an example so that other people don't do this kind of shit, you know? Fucking put her in the square for 12 months. Have her in stocks. I'm fine with it.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Yeah. Throw some fucking vegetables on her, cabbage in her head. That kind of shit, you know. Yeah. Until she learns, small rodents don't go in that hole. at the end she asked the cop she's like you want to see my asshole and that little gerbil had pointed out all right Brian Johnson I got to say man you're you're just a pleasure to have on the show today thank you for filling in for Carl today
Starting point is 01:20:22 you're welcome anytime you want to come on dude anytime thank you thank you I had a great time I love this show you know that I I'm thankful to have someone who understands the show come and do it with me for once. Good. It doesn't happen often.
Starting point is 01:20:41 And I just like to remind people that my guy had a 22 caliber gun with a dildo strapped to it. That's fine. That's fine. My lady slept next to pigs and didn't have a toilet. And wore dumb wigs. You tell me who you'd rather. Would you rather hang out with Popeye the sailor man in a wig that smelled like shit or the
Starting point is 01:21:04 fucking party? guy with the dildo gun just ask it we'll find out we'll find out this week make sure you can vote on reddit and also we thank you for watching everybody all of our bonus content subscribers you're going to be getting a bonus episode wednesday i don't know what that episode's going to be yet because carl's not going to be back but i'm going to do something fun i don't know if you're up for doing another scum parade with me bry but you're invited if you want to i don't know what i'm doing yet but i will be there wednesday at 1130 for you bonus content subscribers make sure you check that out and then also carl and i went on dick show yesterday and uh that episode should be dropping
Starting point is 01:21:39 later this week so make sure you are subscribed to that we had one three really fantastic stories and um you could hear that on dick's show so folks i believe the proper way to end this is it's nice to be important it's more important to be nice Gagia Yeah It may sound amusing but women are confusing to pop by the sale of it
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