The Creep Off - Episode 161: When You Have a Hammer, Everything Looks Like a Nail

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

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Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo! Hello,

Ola creepos. Welcome to another edition of your favorite true cry podcast, the show about creeps by creeps for you creeps. I'm your host. My name is Vinny. And joining me today, as always, my co-host, hot cucka, Carl. What is happening? Vinnie Falino, good to see you, my friend, after a triumphant weekend with Anthony Jesselneck. Vinny, you were very funny. Anthony was hilarious.

Great shows. You're just buttering up my bread because you know everybody's pissed at you right now. I'm just telling you, buddy, I have not laughed that hard of the comedy show in a long time. Oh, well, Anthony Jesselick is one of the funniest human beings of the world. And being there watching his shows was an absolute honor and a pleasure. it's been a wild couple of months dude i thought about it like i don't really host shows very often and they had me do three big fucking weekends yep over two months so i'm ready for philly

i'm warmed up mark norman uh big jay and jesslenick and jesslenk and now uh you're going to be doing stand up for a bunch of dickheads in philadelphia they're going to shout me down and tell me how fat i am well i'll try not to thanks i'll be my best to to control it. Dude, I can't wait for this weekend. It's going to be so much fun down in Philadelphia. People are writing no sound just kidding. You got me there for one second, Kiki.

Kinky Loco just made my heart, my fat pig heart skip a beat. Not good. You son of a bitch. You sandbagging, son of a bitch. All right. It's going to be a good show today, Carl. We need to take a second, though, in recap last week. And who better to do that than our results girl, Jessica?

Hello, joined by Percy, my dog. Say, look, look, over there, say hi. Say hello. Dogs don't talk. You know how much we love tomorrow. Yes, I do. All right, he's what he wants to get down now. He hated that I did that.

He's really, I can like to make my creep later. Okay, hi, Jass. Good. I don't like that. Good to see you. As always. Who won last week? Last week we did biggest Easter creep.

Yes. That's right. Very. murdered a bunch of women. Carl's guy murdered a bunch of children. Yep. Well, it was actually, it was pretty close. But Carl won 100 to

202 to 95. Yeah, baby. Thank you to the Couser Ruse out there. This is pretty close. The guy was offering the children treats. That's messed up. of the truck. The boat was messed up.

This is, this was the shadiest vote. We've had it a while, buddy. Why? Because you lost? That particular week, yes, because I lost. Okay. I mean, someone in the and the thing said, how is Carl winning? Yeah, that's what I

thought, too. That was, that was, that was gangrous, gangers, this. I can't even say your name. I'm so sorry. Gangres. Okay, let's talk about Alex real quick, because I love Alex. Me too. But he gives you, your creep and then votes for you too he doesn't give me my creep it's like it's like

two against one here there's times where he's definitely suggested people he's like hey if you're doing this check this out there's times where I've rolled with it but he doesn't just give me my creeps every fucking that's what he said of the discord today but that's fine he said he gives me my creeps every week no he said this particular week he gave you your creep and voted

for you look at guys I'm sorry but car bombings and terrorist bombings like we went to war for very long time over these things I love people were actually like oh Carl didn't even bring in someone who was a creep. They killed like 130 people. Innocent people, just trying to get out of Syria.

All right, Jessica. What were the listeners' thoughts on this? Were there any interesting comments? The top one comes from EMP 729. I almost voted for Carl because of brevity, brevity. Brevity. Yes, thank you. But I just can't vote for Carl.

He sucks. Oh, Jesus. Well, there we go. Someone else said Carl was lazy. Fuck you! So I'm sorry. Carl was lazy in his pick. You can cherry pick any terrorist attack.

Cardiff didn't help this time. And you can tell. Punish Carl. Yeah. Agreed. And then underneath it said, the guy didn't even have a name. It's such a lazy pick.

He didn't even have a name. Most of these are like against you, Carl. I know. I noticed that. The guy blew up people on Easter. Come on. It's that cool? It's creepy behavior.

It's definitely something the creep would do. All right. Richard Lucas for $5. Oh, I'm reminding us. And it is Super Champ Monday. Yeah. Richard Lucas said, Children always beat women.

It's true. What else are they saying? What did voting close early plus one for Carl unless he's behind the newest voting scandal? I don't want you set up the polls anymore. Gangrenously is doing that. So it should be six days from the, the time it gets posted. I don't know what he's doing. Oh, it closed early. Oh, here we go.

Yeah, I do it. Vinny's going to attach anything. No. What's the score of the game right now, Vinny? Is it four to three? It's now four to three. You're in the league. That means it's game point right now. If I win this week, Vinny has to spin the brand new wheel of consequences. I don't want to be the one to christen that. I want you to be. I know you done. Well, I want you to do your consequences. Hey, you know what? Speaking of your consequences. Yes, let's talk about that real quick. When are you going to church? I'm going to go to church on the 30th. I can't go this Sunday because it will be in Philly. Great. So I'm going to go the next

Sunday. Now, if you remember, there are, but I'm flying back in Sunday morning. Now, if you remember, I brought up the fact that Sunday mornings are tough for me. That's when I edit WATP. Well, I have figured out a workaround for that. That's what I've been working on the last couple of weeks. So now I have

that in place and I will be going to church. And then as far as the drive to Gary, Indiana, we're looking at July. July. It's going to be July. I wanted to get out to Chicago sooner. Please be 4th of July weekend. Please be fourth of July weekend. That was a firework, right? That was a firecracker. There's another one. Carl, I'll tell you what. I'm going to make you a deal. Yeah. I'll, you know, you've put this off for a very long time. If we set the dates in stone and you play this

marvelous game that a listener has submitted. Uh-oh. It's called greetings from Gary, the photo scavenger huds. You need to complete a bingo with photos for each. You have to make a bingo with these things. This came from Chris Carley. He said, Hey, Vinnie, and not Carl because he can't be bothered to do anything for the show like check emails. I made a little something for Carl to help incentivize him to finally go visit Gloria's Gary, Indiana. It's a fun little game for all the sites and activities Gary has to offer. Now, let's look at some of the squares here that you have to find.

Active crime scene, unsupervised toddler on the street. Now, remember, you have to get a picture of these things. That's funny. Broke person wearing $500 pair of sneakers. Broken down car at a front yard. Shoes hanging off of a power line. In loving memory of t-shirt or car decal. You have to buy a paper rose and a glass tube from a gas station.

Porch day drinkers. These are just things you have to get pictures of. Use drug paraphernalia. open business with broken board and windows. Can it be my used drug paraphernalia? Does that have to be someone else's? To be fair, I think that's fine. Okay.

Boost mobile. Find a boost mobile. No, Minnie, are you finding any of this oddly racist at all? I'm just curious. No. Okay, good. I like to imagine that like Carl pulls the side of the road, he sees a kid in the middle of the road, just takes a picture and dries off.

Yeah. Right. I think it would be amazing. On the side of the road taking a picture of a kid. It would be amazing if I could make a picture. bingo five across with just one photo and all five of those things in it. Okay.

You need to take a selfie and Gary, Indiana after midnight. Nope. Not happening. Nope. Locks on things that don't normally have locks. I think that's pretty good. That's pretty good. And that one with a bullet

holes and things that don't normally have bullet holes is also acceptable. Okay. That's good. Something called a tumble weave. Find a tumble weave. I'm not thought to that one. Pet a pit bull. Pet a pit bull!

That guy's trying to get me killed. And then I really like this one. Why don't I just yell the Edward in town square there? How do I do that? Non-consensual hip-hop being played in public. You would just have to get a bingo. You would just have to submit the photos, and I'll make sure you have a nice copy of this to take with you for your trip in July.

That's very clever. I like that. All right. You'll be played Gary. You agree to play Gary Scavenger Hunt? well you're there Carl I'm sorry if I missed that email I apologize okay I try to keep up on those things thank you turbo Neil Breen Vinnie Lane down the creep off law go get them that's right thank you for the two bucks Neil and by the way we're all good nobody's mad at you buddy I love

you um just thanks for showing up I think it's time to get to a competition we'll see you again next week as always Jess where can people follow you on the social media just daydreaming all one word JSS and then the word daydreaming because I have ADHD And can somebody please do me a favor and make a results girl jingle? Oh, yeah. We need a results girl jingle, I think, to make this a little more official for you. I agree. That sounds awesome.

All right. We'll see you in Philly this weekend, Jess. Take it easy. All right. Can't wait. Later. Later, percy. Later.

All right. Carl, this week, in honor of our trip to Philadelphia, we are doing biggest crepe from the city of brotherly love. That's correct. So you want to ring the bell and get after it? That was the Liberty Bell that I just rang. All right, I am bringing to you. I'm cracking up.

I know, pretty good stuff. Some good jokes. This is the true crime category, not comedy, right? Thank Christ. Thank God for that. I want to present to you, Anton Probst. Now, Anton is a German immigrant, and he was looking for work. So he took up work as a farmhand for the Deering family in South Philadelphia in the 1860s.

1860s were going to. You usually. get mad at me when we go back and do stories like that. I know, but this is a fun one, so he worked there for a while and they paid him 15 bucks a month and gave him room and board. But then they wanted them to work in the rain, so he quit. Eventually, though, he wasn't able to find other work. So he came back in February of 1866. He was given his job again, but this time they gave him a pay cut down to only $10 a month. So that's going to piss him off a little bit. Yeah. You know, he didn't like the 15 a month. And,

Now it's only 10. Can I get 12 in an umbrella? Can we do something here to make this easier? Right. So obviously he's not a good negotiator. So he decided he was watching the Deering family counting their cash one day. And he went, you know what? I think I'm just going to rob these people and just steal their money since they're not paying me enough.

So. Tale as old as time. Right. So on April. And that's fucked up, right? You give a guy room and board. You pay him. He's same with the family.

He knows the kids real. while and then he steals from you. That's not, that's creepy. Biting the hand that feed you. Right. I don't know if literally is the right word for that. But yeah, that's what that means. Okay.

You're right. All right. So who's your creep? No, I'm just kidding. All right. So then on April 7th, 1866, the patriarch of the family, Christopher, left to go pick up a cousin from Philadelphia. While he was gone, Proops killed the Deary's other hired hand, Cornelius Carey, with an axe.

Why? His coworker, he just takes him out with an axe. Why? Who hasn't wanted to take a coat with an axe, though. You're going to figure it out as quick. He then began luring members of the family one by one into the farm's barn, where he would whack them with an axe on the head and chop their throat. The first member of the family to fall victim was 8-year-old John Deering.

John Dearing's mother, Julie, followed after being lured to the barn to help out with a colt. After that, her 6-year-old son, Thomas, followed by then 4-year-old Annie and Fort month old Emma. All the children being taken out with the axe in the barn one by one. Could you just have used to hatch it on the 14 month old? I feel like an axe. A full axe is a little excessive. You know, you got to work with the tools that you have.

When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. So the father's gone. It's a little fucked up. So the father is gone. The name of the episode. And he comes back with the cousin. right so then uh he comes back and he says um hey i need you in the barn you got to take a look at this thing for me over here oh okay what's that boom taken out then the cousin elizabeth dolin

she's killed the exact same way all of these family members chopped up with an axe after the killings props set about looking for the money he believed the dearing's to have he found less than 20 bucks and then fled so they eventually found anton probes they caught him they charged him with eight counts of first degree murder the jury found him guilty of all counts and prose was sentenced to death before he was hanged on june 8th 1866 he confessed to all of the murders at justice just happened a lot quicker back then you notice that this stuff happened in april and by june they're hanging him in the city of brotherly mayhem author ron avery quotes testimony given by Anton Proops to illustrate Proop's psychopathic demeanor.

After killing the first boy, I did not care if a hundred were there. If a hundred had gone there, I would have killed them all without caring. I do not know why I felt that way. I had no feeling against the family, only wanted the money. They always treated me well. This is the guy who just murdered eight members of the family. Yeah, they were always pretty cool people. They were good people, but man, they had like almost 20 bucks.

So what did they get a deal? They had 20 bucks. I had no bucks. Right. That's how that work. So this is the interesting part, because we're going back to 1866. The body of this demon spawned killer had to be cut up, examined, and discerned. What Frankenstein monster had nature or God created physicians wanted to know?

Budding criminologists wanted to know. The public wanted to know. What would the autopsy reveal? So after his execution, the doctors had a field day of his cadaver, putting it through all kinds of tests, including wanting to test the theory. that the retina of the eye of a dying person retains the last image scene. Okay. This is only 150 years ago. People thought that that was true.

There was going to be a photo in somebody's eyeball. What did they do? Do they chop the guy's eye out to figure this out? Yes. In fact, in fact, this became somewhat of a side show. This was such a big story at the time. And so his head and right arm later appeared in a New York Museum of Anatomy and Science. And other parts of his body actually made the rounds around the,

the Philadelphia area and Pennsylvania and people would come from to see this nice any parts on this way. So that's my creep of Philadelphia, the German immigrant, Anton Proops. Okay. What do you got for us today, Vinny? And by the way, did you notice? I didn't play any clips of another person's podcast doing my job for me. And I almost sourced two articles where I didn't actually source them.

Okay. Carl. Yes. My creep today is definitely a Philly original. This guy is the Philadelphia extra special here, okay? He also happened to be unreachably insane. In spite of this, he held together a small business, all while terrorizing his family and complete strangers in multiple states.

Oh, I like a businessman. Good. Yeah. He's known to the good people of Philly as the shoemaker, Joseph Callenger. Now, Joseph was an adopted kid, Carl. His adoptive parents were off the boat from Germany, very, very strict people who owned a cobbler store. and the only reason they adopted a kid was for the labor. What year are we talking about here?

We're talking 1930s. Okay. It's adopted. You're going back to the ways as well. Well, not as far as you do. I don't know what you're complaining about. So, Cal, he's adopted by these off the boat Germans who make him a slave in their shoe shop. Yeah.

Okay. By the way, kids used to work back then. I like the way you're trying to frame this is if it was so horrible, these people put their kid to work. Okay. Well, let me give you a list of some of the things that they do. did do him when he didn't do his work properly. Okay. At age six, he was hit over the head with a shoe hammer and woke up in the hospital.

Punishments he endured included kneeling on jagged rocks, being locked inside closets, consuming his own excrement, committed self-injury, being burned with aliens, being whipped with belts, and being starved. And when I say belts, they made a homemade cat of nine tails that these German freaks beat this kid with. But I will say, the motherfucker could cobble a shit. Oh, good. He was very, very good.

Yeah, I bet he didn't make a lot of mistakes. Now, another sad note in his childhood story, when he was nine years old, he got gang raped by a group of neighborhood boys. Joseph Callenger might be the most bat-shick crazy person I have ever talked about on this show, Carl. Really? Wow. Well, that's saying something. He married a girl named Hilda at 17 years old and has two kids with her, right? Okay. Hilda later left him for another man due to the domestic violence she suffered during their marriage. In 1958, he gets married to another girl after being released from a mental hospital.

Wait a second. It was illegal to beat your wife in the 50s? I don't think that's true. Well, I think it was pretty normal, right? I didn't say that he went to jail for him. He went to a mental hospital. That's a good point. Okay.

Okay. Later that year, Calger torched his own home just because he was a firebug as well. He just decided to set his house on fire. He got $1,600 for insurance. And then they ended up committing him to a state hospital following a suicide attempt. He comes back out of the hospital, out of a suicide attempt. He's married to this other woman. Wait a second.

So this guy can't even kill himself? Nope. Okay. Carl, just sit back. Because there's a lot here to unpack. Of course, there is. And I'm going to go through every detail. The second time he's out of this nut hut.

After he set the house on fire the first time, he's like, you know what? Fuck it, I'll board. So he sets the house on fire again. Well, didn't you say he got insurance money for it? Yeah. There's a reason. Okay. Well, he sets the house on fire again.

He doesn't get insurance money this time. They probably wise up, yeah. And he didn't get it the third and fourth time. Oh, shit. Okay. Twice in May in 1963, and once again in October, 1967. By 1972, Carl, the guy has six of his own children living with him, two of them from his first marriage.

Now, let's talk about what kind of a father this psycho firebug could be, okay? If used to his kids started when they were young, he would beat them with belt sticks and other objects. He would also lock them in closets in basements for hours on ends. He also raped his daughters. So we had firebug child rapist in here. Joseph Cowager made his children dig a hole in the basement. He told him that he was going to bury them in it if they disobeyed him. This hole that they found was 20 feet deep and six feet wide.

wow that sounds like a spacious place to hang up for a while the kids were forced to dig it in the winter and they were not allowed to wear a coat so they did it they were also not allowed to stop digging even when they were tired or cold was there a rancor down there too no no just their awful father we're going to get more into the hole a little bit later but whenever they were in trouble they would get thrown down into this hole he would rape his daughters in the hole he would throw them down there and then climb down there and rape them by the way the scariest thing you've ever said is we're going to be going to get into that hole a little bit later. Oh, yeah. Any woman who hears that coming out of your mouth, one as fast as you can. I was talking about Robin. You're yours. So they dug the hole in the basement.

His daughter ran away. And when he found her, his older daughter, Mary Jo, he brought her back home, threw her in the pit and came down there and used a torch and a piece of metal to brand her inner thigh. Okay.

Okay. it's a good for a story though now she got away again and went to the police with this and show them the brand he gets arrested for child abuse but was found incompetent to stand trial because he is kind of a raving lunatic and he does nice work and he knew all the cops because he did their shoes he did the shoes for the judge at his trial later by the way i just want to point this out see if you're a cop with a interest you would think so yeah now they take him they put him in a hold for 60 days psychological examination they score his IQ is 80 they diagnosed him as a paranoid schizophrenic. Oh boy. And they recommend that he be supervised well with his family. Now, his kids were so scared. They went back and recanted all the shit they had. And after that 60 days, they just let him out.

Let's talk about how completely insane this man is, Carl, because we're heading towards the crescendo of this. If I'm not, if I haven't convinced you yet already that this man is a monster. By mid-1974, he was living inside of the whole full time himself. He just lived down there. He would pissing shit down there and bury his own shit. And he just decided to live in the hole. He spent all of his free time down there.

He was reported to be hallucinating. By the way, that hole sounds pretty nice. The way you're explaining this, I'm like, it sounds like a vacation. It's literally a shit in cumbole. He would go down there and jerk off and rape his daughters and shit. When you put it that way, it doesn't sound kind of bad. He was also, like I said, was hallucinating constantly. Okay.

He believed he was having direct conversations with God and the devil. He was holding discards. discussions with an imaginary friend he had, who was a disembodied floating head that he called Charlie. Jesus Christ. Charlie told Joseph to kill people and mutilate their genitals. Wow. He also told Caliger to build homemade torture devices and use them on children. Calder claimed that he was unable to resist Charlie's commands that he felt compelled to obey him.

He also believed that he could save children from the voice by performing experiments on people's feet. He didn't go full steam on people with this because he wanted to get right. What he believed was that he could control the lines of the world through inserts in people's shoes that he can make. If they were tilted to the right angle to create perfect harmony with the brain, he would be able to basically be God on Earth. That makes sense.

So, you know, sure. To get these inserts right and to really understand the feats because he's got the shoes down. He needs to understand the feet. He decided he was hamsters instead. Okay. Now, Callenger would buy hamsters for pet stores, bring them home.

He would then tie up their little legs and cut off their limbs. he would then sew the lives back out but in different places for example that's fucked up Joe is sitting in his hole with the fucking needle and thread and dead hamsters sewing their heads to their feet

and all sorts of other shit these were very sadistic, cruel fucking things he was doing everyone needs a hobby now after getting divine orders from God that he needed to murder everyone on earth and sever their genitals of gut

okay he had to talk to he had to have a conversation with one of his sons about it now here's the thing he played favorites his son joseph junior his oldest and his son michael those were his two running buddies okay joe went on a crime sprees with his two sons they would just go steal shit and start fires he was just a problem and he never got caught the oldest one was 14 and the other one was like 12 and they were chain smokers this is how good good of a fucking dad this guy is he might be the worst father in the world and the best father in the world all the same time yeah he would just tell him to miss school and go fucking start problems with him hey can we just start fires today and smoke cigarettes is that cool yeah

of course yeah it's fine michael though was his favorite he says to michael one day he goes michael you're 30 years old son i need your help of my divine orders of murdering everyone on planet earth and chopping off the genitals it's a lot of work dad will you help me and michael's response apparently was glad to do it dad 11 days later they murdered their first victim a eight-year-old child named Jose Colazo a Puerto Rican young boy who they saw in a park they tortured him and cut off his dick so if you're that Joseph forgot he did it if you're sent out to kill every person in the world the torture part I feel like you need to skip it's just time consuming there's a lot of like the biblical imagery here with this guy

where he looks about like the Jewish people had to cut off their dick so he's clen-like this is all somewhere mixed between completely insomplete and him knowing the Bible in some way I think. So you're blaming God. All right, I got it.

I got you. God told him they're doing that's true. So Callenger and Michael decided that they needed to do something very much like the Bible. Joe Jr., the older brother, had to go. This guy was having visions of him throwing his son off of a cliff.

For God. Yeah. So guess what he decided to do? We're skipping school today, boys. We're going to go to this national park where they have all these big high cliffs. And apparently the son Joe really loved getting his picture taken. So they go to this thing and they go up to one of these tall cliffs and they have Joe stand by the edge of the cliff. And Joseph, the father and Michael, took the camera, stood way back, and they did the old trick.

Move back a little further. Could you go back just a little bit further? He didn't really fall for that? No. The kid didn't. And Joseph and Callagher was like, God damn it, I'm trying to sacrifice this kid to the Lord. And he's just not cooperating. So they had to come up with another plan.

Yeah. The next week, they found this old tractor trailer that was abandoned. They filled it with gasoline and a bunch of flammable. shit, knowing that Joey was a chain smoker. They got him down there and we're going to go burn shit to start problems today type thing. You say, hey, Joe, why don't you go into it's inside of that tractor trailer? So they go, so he goes inside of the thing and they lock the door behind him,

knowing that this kid is a fucking chain smoker and eventually will light up a cigarette and set himself on fire and the deed will be done. Right. Well, the problem was this fucking guy couldn't reach the lock. So the kid does this. The thing catches on fire and it left, but he didn't latch it properly. So the kid was able to get out. They go home thinking, we did it.

And then he's like a dog that they left out in the fucking woods that just made it back to the front step of the house. Hey, guys, you forgot to bring me back with you. Hey, guys. This was a close one, Pop. He'll never guess what my day was like. Yeah. So eventually a couple of days later, they decide, okay, we got a plan. They say, Joe, you know, you like to get your piss.

picture taken, we're going to take ghost pictures at the scary abandoned, blown out building. They take him there and they pose him up next to this old ladder and they chain him to the ladder and they're supposed to be taking these scary pictures. Well, Carl, once he was chained to the ladder, they threw him into a giant puddle of standing water and the kid fucking drowned, chain fucking ladder. And they pulled him out, unchained him and just left his body there. Why are they trying to get so creative with the way they're going to kill this guy? It could be done so easy, right?

This man is talking to a floating head named Charlie. I won't question Charlie's reasons. And that's when the real crime spree started, everybody. Callenger and Michael, by November of 1974, would catch the bus in Philly and ride to other states. They went to live in New Jersey. They broke into a house, stole a bunch of shit. Then they broke into a second home. There was a woman who was home.

They tied her up. And then Joseph just rubbed his dick on her. That's all he did is he just tied. her up and rubbed his dick at this woman. Well, that's retarded. Yeah, because he's crazy. Then, 11 days later, they go to Pennsylvania, and they go into this place where these women are having a bridge game,

ties up all five of them, steals $20,000 worth of cash jewelry with his little kid. His 13-year-old chain-spoken sons right there with him, ride the bus with his dad. Then they go to Maryland. There's a woman named Pamela Jasky. They capture her in the house. and then he forced joseph forces her to blow him at gunpoint okay and he's doing this shit in front of his son not going to be a great blow job by the way just so you guys know don't try that yeah two days later on january 8th calenger and his son invaded a home in linoa new jersey holding

eight people captive at gunpoint while they ransack the house in the terrifying home invasion story i have ever read all right him and the kid walk up to the house and say hi i'm a salesman my name's John Hancock. That's what he told the lady. And she's like, we don't want any. Pulls out a gun and a knife, goes in the house. She has her four-year-old son there. There's a grandmother who's disabled in a bed.

They all get tied up. The older kids get home from school. They get tied up. Joseph's raping the mom. They're all fucking tied up. All the kids, he ends up stripping them naked. They're all fucking in the basement. They're screaming.

Neighbors come over. One of them is a nurse and her, I guess her boyfriend or just some guy that she needs. who's over there, they show up at the house, knock on the door, is everything all right? Gun to the forehead, get in here. This fucking guy, the poor guy who got dragged into this,

they take him down to the base and everybody's tied up. He makes this guy pull down his pants, and Callenger grabs his dick, and holds a knife up to it. And he's like, I'm going to chop off his dick if you move. And he's just menacing this man's penis with the knife. Jeez, Louise.

The girlfriend is freaking out. And he says, that's it. Here's what we're going to do. You. lady put his dick in your mouth and bite it off oh jesus yeah it when he first starts i said that you're like oh yeah she refused okay so he stabbed her to death in front of everyone that's what you get well this caused more screaming the police show up michael and joseph fucking book it grabbing clothes and shit off of people's drying lines in the back they found the

bloody clothes on the way back to the bus station. And cops were able to track down Joseph. Now, I have told you a lot of stuff. And I'm sorry that this is like such a long fucking story. But I'm not done. Michael, the courts rule Michael to be a delinquent but salvageable. The murders against him were dismissed and return for a guilty plea of two counts of robbery. He was placed on probation to his 25th birthday.

And he's just out now free. that's fascinating please go on joseph went to prison for life and while he was in prison let's talk about what he did while he was in jail car he set himself on fire in his prison cell he survived unfortunately he also set a couple other people on fire when he was trying to set himself on fire a second time then he was trying to fry an egg on his head by covering himself in lighter fluid and cracking the egg on his head and then lighting himself on fire. What was the egg

to do with that? Exactly. Exactly. He's fucking crazy. Liding yourself on fire seems like a really bad idea. So then they take him

to another mental hospital and while he's there, he stripped the plastic cover from his mattress, tried to suffocate himself. He also got his hands on some type of metal blade and slit the throat

of another inmate. The guy survived, but he fucking slashed someone's throat in jail. He was for the criminally insane for the rest of his life until he died in 1990s checking on his own vomit. Yeah. That's where a lot of heroes die. So, ladies and gentlemen, I know this all sounds completely insane and made up, but this is

a real dude from Philadelphia. In conclusion, wife beater, child abuser, child rapist, child murderer, animal killer, arsonist, thief murderer, chopped off a kid's dick for no reason, lived in a shit hole in his basement. Vote for Vinnie. Vinnie, I am so sorry. I was not paying attention. Can you do that again?

Yeah. So my creep today. My creep today definitely is a fully original. You can vote. You thought brought the biggest creep from Philadelphia on our subreddit for a subreddit or what is it? Reddit.com slash something slash the creep off our slash. Yeah. I mean, you would know.

You're the subredic guy now. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, there's a super chat up here that's not very. Becels 1296. Thanks for the five bucks. Come on. Vinny. need a big effort out of you here. We need this win. Carl is the worst. If you think that this guy

who murdered a couple of people in a barn is worse than this man who terrorized families, raped his own children, including a one-year-old. Yeah, how many hamsters? How many hamsters? Less than 20 bucks. Well, that was a lot of money back then. How many hamsters? Wasn't a lot of money. How many hamsters? All right. If you're worried about hamsters, won't for many. Thank you. Bye. All right, Carl. I guess that means it's time for who. are these creepsos? That's correct, Vinny. Who are these creepos? This is a segment we like to do on the creep off because we believe we are the number one

true crime show out there. And there are so many true crime shows. How can we make a claim like that? Well, the numbers don't bear it out, but here we are doing it anyway. Yes. How can we possibly make a claim that we're the best true crime show when there's so many out there? I'll tell you how by showing every other true crime show one of the time and explaining why they suck and we're the best. As we do this in a very petty segment called Who Are These Creepos? Today's Who Are These Creepo?

Submission came in from Mr. X86 in the Discord is a show called This Podcast is Haunted. Host Jen Voss and Kate Reed. Carl, why is this again? It's always a thing, man. With the paranormal shit and true crime. I don't know. I don't know, but that's what they love to do.

They give themselves a history. history show, a true crime show. They consider this a comedy show. Listen how this one starts out. Welcome spooks and spirits, ghouls and ghosts. Take a seat around the campfire. But beware, this podcast is haunted. Why would you warn those things?

about something being haunted. They're the ones who are haunting things. Let's see here. Let's get off to a fast start with this show. This show sucks. And these two women. What, um, what's new with you? Hey, uh, welcome to our show. We feel like we always just ramble start these. And I know, I know. I feel like we should get more professional about this.

Trying to class it up, Jen. Yeah. Good evening. And this is podcast. Thank you for the. welcome to the 748 news. Tonight we are talking about... I'm your host, Walter Cronkite. These two women are hilarious. I'm Walter Crockite.

They are a couple of cards. Oh, gosh, this is really good stuff. I love it how they start off a podcast. There's two people here. And they have nothing to say to each other. This is all garbage. This is all garbage. We never have anything to say.

We should just start talking. Yeah. You should just start talking. Like, do whatever you're going to do. Or maybe not. Or don't talk at all. That'd be great, too. That's an idea. All options. All options on the table ladies, please. Well, then they debate which of the two of them is uglier. Fiddy. I will say something about this show. It's a real Sophie's choice. Dude, there is no self-esteem going on

on this show whatsoever. You just heard them going, oh, God, we suck at this. There's nothing they even talk about. We don't know what we're doing. And then it gets into this sad sack discussion. I already look 89. Like, the coma really aged me. like a scary amount. I have a wrinkle up here now. Oh, a single wrinkle? Well, it's on this side, but it's like really deep. Do you see it? I feel like mine are deeper. No, definitely not. This is like a chunk is missing out of my face. It's, it might be over here. I don't look in a mirror because it freaks me out. Okay. I don't know. I can't, I can't even see what you're talking about. All right. Well, good. But it's a very noticeable wrinkle. And I feel like, especially with all the

hair loss I've had, you can like see my scalp a lot more than you should be able to for a 34 year old. So let me explain what's going on here. You know, she said the coma has really aged me. She's 34 years old. She's morbidly obese. Look for the mortally obese bald, wrinkly lady. Yes. She won't even look in a mirror. She's so hideous and disgusting. She can't even look at herself. And I guess she had a stroke. That's why she was in a coma. And things aren't going real well for. Listen to this, but this is just someone who is profoundly ugly. Ooh, I took a, I actually turned on the front facing camera. Woof?

And I was like, nope. She literally cannot look at herself. By mistake, she turned out her webcam, went, ah! What the fuck? I'm not going to, I'm not going to lie. I appreciate this type of, you know, self reflection and knowledge. Dude, it's brutal. So after that.

Oh, you saw a picture then? Oh, yeah, I looked at up. After that, I, I'm listening to the show. They're talking about how difficult it is to live in Grand Rapids, Michigan. because people set off fireworks every night, according to the one woman. She goes, yeah, I mean, I live right in the city of Grand Rapids. I can't sleep in the summertime because people are just shooting off fireworks nonstop. So, all right, too much banter.

Instead of the transition into the story, we need to get to it. Do you want to just, like, do podcast stuff now? Like, I don't have any more banter. Okay, yeah. I'm glad that you're afraid of fireworks. That must be hard. I'm not afraid. Oh, right.

You're not afraid. I'm not afraid of no ghosts. Who are you going to call? Speaking of which Yeah Shall we? About I haven't seen

Ghost Yeah I thought you were gonna fucking talk about Go with the new Ghostbusters We are not on the same page Today Kate and Jen's struggle

We gotta stop doing those Knowing like Okay you fill in the rest of the sentence Because we're not doing that I super thought we had each other I thought you wanted to talk about Ghostbusters

We always finish each other's Sandwiches Yes There's been no laughs What do you mean? These two have no chemistry. And this has been going on for years, this show. This is not something where it's like this is their pilot test episode or something like that.

We just thought we'd start this. This monster and I thought we'd start a podcast. So this was an interesting thing that the one one, because they consider themselves both very well educated. They say they do a ton of research for these shows. I thought this was odd. I just learned how freaking big Alaska is. That was news. to you? Listen.

Never seen a map before? Hi. Maps famously inaccurate in regards to scale and size. So, yeah, no, I didn't know that. And I do often look at maps because Alaska's always made to look smaller than it is. Ozafra, Africa, Africa is huge. What? She didn't know that Alaska was big because maps are famously inaccurate.

Okay, so maybe it's off a little bit. What does she have one of the ones with the sea monsters on it? Stupid idiot. talking about there. Did you know that Alaska is a really big landmass? Yeah. Everyone does. How do you not know that?

Pretty big. Jesus Christ. So that leads into talk about Farapalin. You might remember was the governor of Alaska. Now we're getting to true crime. Okay. I see what you did.

I see what you did there. So this turns into exposing how bad they are at math. Now, we know they're both women. So maybe you assume that anyway, but this is pretty bad right here where there was a land bridge between what is now Russia and what is now Alaska. My house. Yes.

I can see Russia from my house. I'm so glad. That election was... 2008? Yeah, it was like... So long ago. Right, like people born back then can like drink now and probably have children.

No. How old are people from 2008 now? high school college oh yeah for sure people born at 2008 can drink now and the other woman goes I don't think that's true and then they go well how old would they be that would be correct they stop for three or four beats and then they say they could definitely be in college Vinny do you know old you would be if you were born in 2008 15 you'd be 15 years old you would not be in college I'd probably still be drinking now at 15 possibly drinking I'm going to address this real quick yes the stream is coming in choppy this computer is hardwired into the internet and it is

showing my connection is unstable and i'm not sure why i don't fucking tell you sorry about it new computer's coming this studio has been nothing but a problem for the entire three years we've been doing this show yep hey real quick why don't we talk about uh brian johnson gave us a five oh yeah hey bry thank you so much buddy appreciate the support brian says you know i'm driving to rochester next winter to make sure you fulfill your consequence telling steve day creep up crossover let's do it 100% i was i'll go out is that brian's consequence no i have to go jump and like i was saying i'm saying to do it a crossover with us with this wildly popular show i feel like that's uh cruel and unusual i think it's uh a very kind gesture of sympathy yeah actually

brian if you can please come to that and film it because um i'm not good at that apparently so i was thinking about driving down to jersey to go do theirs oh that'd be fun too yeah i might do that Who knows? Whatever gets me away from you. All right, well, so we've already shown that these men are dumb. They don't know that Alaska's big, what 23 minus 8 is. So, we'll say not, no. So the kelp highway 8 theory was that you could catch birds, eat clams, eat kale, or not kale.

What is kale of the sea? Seaweed. Good job. We got there. Listen, I recently had a stroke. Cale of the sea. Stuff I don't want to eat. I am not looking forward to when you have your stroke.

It makes you this dumb because you're already not working with a full deck as it is. Really? You don't think I'm very smart? I'm sorry, let me to take this on you. It's really annoyed me today as I was pulling these clips. Now, one more clip I have from the show. And have you ever confused kale at seaweed before? I'm sorry.

I've never tried either, so no. So last clip I have on here, I mentioned this is a comedy show, and every good podcast has some great sight gags in them. And then they started adding what's called rotators. Yeah. And then you're rotating. So what you guys can't see is Jen just swirled her arms in the air, like she just don't care. Like I'm the little inflatable guy outside of the car dealership. Yeah.

They're around in the circle. But actually, you're wrong. All right, so anyway, this podcast is haunted. I hate that podcast. Jen Voss and Kate Reed. Do they have any listeners? Do we know if people are listening to this show? They had like over 200 ratings on Apple, so I don't know.

I think every true crime show finds some type of audience. Every true crime, every show about hauntings and ghosts find some type of audience. Do you have any voicemails? Yeah, I got a voicemails. The Creepoff voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse, Syracuse, known as the Jewel of Upstate New York. And by Jewel, we mean that one crooked tooth she has. See you in Syracuse.

I'm mad at Jill. She got her teeth back. She did. That's why I like Billy Corgan. Here's more people telling us what to do. Ginny, Carl, upload all the bumpers for WATS, the creep off, WATC, all the little jingles, the little jam. I want to listen to them.

Okay. Is that all? Okay. I got a new one. Oh, cool. I got a really great new one. This was because of the letter we got last week from podcast, Hitman. He sent us in another musical number that he wrote in prison. Oh, good.

That's pretty good. You remember, he brought us this hit. I want a function like an animal. Yeah, that's not. I remember. Feel the jingle. from the inside. Okay.

Well, here's his new song that he just dropped in. And he went for a different genre. It's okay. You're going to have a three-way. Jen and Chrissy gonna fuck me at your hair away. Girl, film my shit and put it up on eBay. Gonna make some fucking money off my three-way. Yeah.

Yeah, girl. Oh, podcast. Very fun, man. Very funny. Thanks, Mr. Mugenta. You're the best. I have a,

I have a voicemail for us coming in. Last week, we did a true crime show that was also Muckbang. Yeah. Hey, Carl, this is it for the creep-off? That a Muck-Bang, true crime show, they were on to something. You see, a while back,

I was visiting Flint, Michigan, and I got grabbed and attacked, and I just woke up in a compound, and I was told by a guy, keep making voicemails. I'm breaking the truth, man. It's all been a rude. Oh, my gosh. This is alarming.

So the people are coming into our voicemail numbers, many are being tortured for having their arms broken, and they're being kept prisoner to make these phone calls, the podcast? It's in Flint, where we bought the land. All right. I wanted to do this one here, but this is some thoughts on the land.

the podcast Hitman letter from last week. And I got to tell you, this is the fucking funniest world's brilliant idea we've ever gotten in a voicemail. Oh, okay. This person, I completely agree. Hey, it's called back Curtis. Okay, hear me out. I kind of agree with Carl.

I think podcast Hitman's trying to pretend to be crazy, but let's fuck with him. And so much some of the message saying, actually, I had to peek up. He's doing really big. Bro, he was just on Joe Rogan. Can you fucking believe it? That's hilarious. That's a great idea. We act like he's become the biggest podcaster in the world.

That's hilarious. He's got 18,000 patrons now. Yeah, he changed his name to Tim Dillon. He's so funny. You can't believe it. Oh, man. He actually punched this guy down in Florida once. You think of all sorts of stories.

I love it. Oh, God. That was really brilliant. I appreciate that thought. And I honestly feel like that might be something we need to consider car and i mean like we don't play pranks i mean we generally kind of keep it in the middle but that one's pretty fucking funny he murdered a lady dude oh yeah i don't care about prank and podcast that's hilarious you're all going on about how you want to send him money

and do nice shit for him and write him a letter i say fuck with them yeah let's fuck with them that's more fun yes all right we need to write this letter uh let's start working on it i like it all right and i will take suggestions if anybody has any uh here's another one uh so i was just listening to the most recent episode of the three fall can you guys give an update on the baby shark torturers and honestly in my opinion i think that's probably one of like the least crimes you guys talked about in this show like i fuck if i was in prison and i was getting punished i mean i'd rather listen to a song than you know i have to go into the bathroom and drop the soap or something like damn these people really complaining about having to listen to a nice

catchy too. I mean, at least you know, call me a Navy or something, you know, it could have been a lot worse. Good point. That is true. It could have been a worse song. I mean, I torture people with that song all the time, so I didn't think it was that bad of a crime either. Carl actually does rate people in bathrooms to that song. All right. Allegedly. There's no proof of that. Fair enough. Fair enough. Shee. And here's one for Jessica. Jessica, sorry for playing this in advance. Hey, Jessica.

I can't hear you the new results, girl. I'd like to show you some of my results if you know what you mean. Welcome to the creep off, Jess. She. You got any more voice-ville, girl? No, that's all I got, buddy. All right, well, I say we do a scum parade then, buddy. Let's go.

Let's take it on home. Scum parade Take me on a raid Of these fuck charades That these creeps have made Scum parade Vinny and Carl Gonna tell you about some fuck shit

Scum parade Like stories of a kid fucked by his mom or dad Soaking up the blood of a cat Scum parade Carl, we got a baby thrower. Oh, yes, we do, Vinny. You know what that means?

It's a beautiful day out on the field. Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, folks. A woman named Essence Mackey. She's 21 years old. I think this is in New Zealand. Oh, I'm sorry. Is it New Zealand? I had written Canada here.

By the way, this is the worst. I mean, it's a fun story, but there's almost no information in this article about what actually happened. That's why I liked this story because I figured it would leave you and me free to speculate. Okay, cool. Sounds good. The charge against her states it on Tuesday, while being a person who has actual care of a baby, she engaged in conduct, namely throwing the eight-week-old victim added attending police officer, likely to cause adverse effects to the baby.

is what they said. So for some reason, this woman was having a confrontation with the police while holding an eight fucking month old baby. Eight week old baby, forgive me, brand new baby. And decided the best way to get out of trouble

is just to throw that baby at the cops. I'm thinking this is like a Hail Mary situation where she's trying to get away, where it's not like anger. Take that where she throws it. She just throws up as a diversion. The cops are going to try to fucking catch it. You know,

they're going to be all fucking. right at that point it's just hot potato she just didn't have a potato she had a baby right and the fun part about the story is there's no information we don't know what to happen so I'm just going to assume it was that yeah I'm going to assume that the cop missed the baby and it just smashed out of its face on the ground and that was the end of that no I mean honestly she's obviously not a very responsible parent the fact that she threw it to someone who's more responsible than her is probably a good thing I were attorney I'd probably be arguing that I'm like Hey, I don't think that baby should be around to her mom.

So it's a good thing that she threw her. Excuse me, Miss Mackey. Is it true or is it not true that you yelled heads up before you threw the baby? Right. I think that would go a long way. Or four or something. Hey, catch. Freaking ridiculous.

Still throw babies, people. It never ends well. This woman's facing 10 years in jail for tossing a baby. Steams light. Yeah, well, it was only eight weeks old. That's true. The older more seasons, seasoned ones you get more consequences for it. I meant lightweight.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. Oh, these things don't matter. Well, Carl, let's go down to Florida, shall we? Okay. A folder man was arrested Sunday night after a fishing trip went terribly wrong. Now, according to the arrest affidavit, in court, St. Lucy, officers responded to a domestic disturbance call around 10.30 p.m. Cops made contact with the woman who said she had been in an argument with her husband, Prince Eugene, 67 years old,

and that her husband had violent tendencies and had killed a bird in front of their children. She said she was fearful because he, quote, he knew people who could take care of her. The woman showed cops a graphic image of the bird. A federally protected Florida Blue Heron. Yeah, I mean, kill all the birds you want, but I would avoid the ones that are federally protected.

Got that one, dude. Yeah. She found out, she found the picture on her daughter's phone. That's, this is a whole crazy story. Yeah, this story is crazy. I would have calmed down at some point on this journey if I were with this guy. When cops spoke with the daughter, she told them that when Eugene picked her up from school, he had the bird with him. The animal was, quote, still alive at this point, but had a broken leg.

The suspect reportedly told his kids that he captured the bird because he was angry. It was eating his bait. Authorities believe the animal was okay when first snatched, but Eugene injured it while grabbing it. The report says Eugene drove to his sister's house where he cut the bird's leg off, slit its throat in front of his son who became distraught. You know, I was thinking about this. I think that this blue heron, the reason why they had the balls to eat this guy's bait over and over again and piss him off,

is because he's like on the endangered species list. So you think he can get away with that shit. He's probably flaunting it, probably flashing his endangered species card. I can't touch me, ha, ha, just eating your bait over here. What you're going to do about it? Yeah, what are you going to do about it? He's not expecting the guy to confront him. That's my thought on it.

Dude, I would never want to get near one of those birds. Have you seen the beaks on those fucking things? That thing starts coming at you. It's not a good day. You know what I was thinking? What? I wish it was Chad Zubak eating this guy's bait. You know what, though?

I think Chad would win this fight. Listen, I get being very frustrated and wanting to kill the bird that's messing up your fishing excursion. But how do you not calm down by the time you get to your kids' house? You still feel the need to slip this. He's running errands. He's stopping to pick the kids up from school and shit. Like, I can understand you do this, you know, at the event when it happens when you're

apparently this fucking crazy mad, but you're waited quite a bit of time. That's what I mean. And you decided to make it an object lesson. Now, they don't say the age of the children, but this guy is 68. Yeah. But they explained that these are children. How old are his kids? I don't know, man.

Florida plays got to play. Yeah, I guess. The defendant was released on a $7,500 bond, and he's being charged with one kind of aggravated cruelty to a conservation animal involving pain, suffering, and death as one kind of cruelty towards a child. Yeah, cutting off a bird like that's leg in front of your children, it's going to be a little bit detrimental for them. They'll be talking about that on the couch someday.

Yeah. I remember the time my dad killed the endangered species to teach me a lesson. Yeah. What did you learn? That my dad's a dick. Yeah. That's what I heard. Fucking S says, I'd love to, thanks to the two bucks, I'd love to hear the story

Chad would come up with. Oh, God. I was just eating some stuff and this guy came at me. All right. Let's go back to Philadelphia, Carl. All right. A 28-year-old man faces charges after allegedly drugging, kidnapping, and fatally shooting his mom in a storage shed where she was later found.

Now, this is Bucks County. They announced that Sean Rivera was charged with criminal homicide, kidnapping to facilitate a felony, kidnapping to inflict terror or injury, aggravated assault, possession with intent to deliver a controlled substance, possession of an instrument of crime, possession of a weapon, false imprisonment, unlawful restraint, and recklessly endangering another person. That's a busy day right there. According to the criminal complaint, on Sunday, April 9th, officers responded to a house on Berwyn Road after receiving the court of a domestic dispute between brothers regarding their mother's whereabouts. Have you seen mom? No. I mean, the guy basically said, look it, mom's dead. All right.

It's over. Move on. Don't even look for her. She's gone. It's fine. That's right. Sean Rivera sends to his brother. She got sick and died.

I don't know if tired. She's dead. This is literally the conversation. Are we still talking about Bob over here? Jesus. Get over it. It's Sunday dinner. You want to eat or not?

Yeah. Now, this, the brother, reportedly searched for their mother, Carol Clark in the home, but couldn't find her. When he asked Rivera from where he asked Rivera from where he. details. Rivera allegedly said their mother had suffered a heart attack and she was at the hospital. Well, you just told me she was dead. According to the police, the brother told authorities. He asked local hospitals about their mother, but none of the hospitals in the area had a record of her being there. He then asked Rivera again, where the mother was. And he reported that he just said

Frankfurt. He's just setting him off on wild goose jases. Yeah. And so he left the home to search the hospitals. When he came back, Rivera was gone. So they called the police. So he said, she's in Frankfurt and then he got out of town because he knew his brother wasn't going to stop looking. Rivera, who lived with the mother, returned home and a car registered in her name. What police spoke with Rivera, he said he brought his mother

takeout the night before. The next day, April 9th, Rivera reportedly said his mother was not in her bedroom. Oh, so Arby's killed her. Okay. Well, what about this whole thing with her being in the hospital and a heart attack? Yeah, he did not think this through. And also, this, I mean, go ahead and go through it, but this is a crazy way to

to kill someone. The same thing was, it was like her birthday was the day before. Oh, I don't care about that. The son called her, the other good son here, called her to say,

happy birthday. She didn't text back, thought it was very unlike her, that she had in various medical conditions, so he was concerned. Now, police executed a search warrant in the home and located two firearms in the upstairs bedroom drawer

with receipts made out to Rivera. Now, they also found a Home Depot receipt for two padlocks. Upon further investigation, detectives concluded Rivera allegedly drugged his mother with iced tea with fentanyl Yep.

Placed her in her wheelchair, took her out to a building previously known as the Frankfurt Friends in Philadelphia. There he reportedly used bolt cutters to open a storage shed on the property, wheeled his mother inside, and vaguely shot her. See, this just seems so convoluted here. If you want to kill your mom, can't you just put a lot of fentanyl in the iced tea and say, oh, yeah, Mom, Odin. He sure did love her painkillers, Matt. She was a big fan of heroin, Mom. Love to snort it. But seriously, nobody, do you know what I mean?

Like, what's the point of giving her fentanyl and then wheeling her to this remote, or not even remote, it's in the city, this other location, breaking into a place, putting her there and then shooting her? What's the point of all this? Did you understand that? The point was to make sure she was dead. Okay. But Carl,

here's what happens. And I think you know this as well as I do. These people, once they're in the moment, all logic is gone. That's true. Because, like, once you do the deed. or you're planning to do this deed, all of this stuff. Like, there's so many variables that none of them ever take into consideration. They got a crime boner, and they're just thinking with their crime donor.

Right. The crime boner, like the name of this episode. That might actually, the other one was pretty good, but crime boner is pretty good. They get lost, and, you know, just like they said in Jurassic Park, you thought that you could, but you didn't stop to think if you should. They just go for it. you were making fun of me because I didn't understand a joke from that hey riddle riddle show and it was a Jurassic park reference and everyone was racking on me for not knowing if I was going to

yell at you about anything on that chart yelled you about how you said the only reason you keep me around is because you need to have a fat friend yes correct well if it makes you feel any better I keep you around to be my ugly friends so yeah all right good last story of the day carl you ready a 38 year old woman was arrested on suspicion of first degree murder for allegedly attacking a woman at a homeless shelter with an axe. Okay. Now, I want to point something out about this story, please. I found it extremely confusing. I had to read through it a few

times to understand what was going on. Yes. And what I'm excited about here is you're going to have to attempt to pronounce this woman's name. And that's what I'm excited about. Zayina Astra, Zakira, Mavish Jama. Okay. I'll give it to you. Close enough.

That is a fucking mouthful, isn't it? Yeah. And you would know what a mouthful is like. because you eat so much it's like you don't like you never eat anything Carl you never eat food before Carl I did I like food

with the low hanging fruit jokes yeah I avoid low hanging fruit and fruit and vegetables in general I noticed fucking asshole charging documents show that police charged this woman with first degree murder the victim was identified as Leah Rosen Pritchard

and she died in the groundworks collaborative kitchen at approximately 930 a.m she sustained significant injuries to her face, neck, and torso. Now, apparently what happened was this woman was living in this place. It was like a halfway house kind of a deal, a homeless shelter,

and she was having some beef with this woman who was a volunteer who had worked there. Yeah, it's like a social work. Yeah, and she just didn't like her. And apparently, that morning, according to the police surveillance footage, they show this woman walking towards the officer with a sheet over her shoulders

covering much of the front of her body. The sheet supposedly draped over her right shoulder and over the left side to cover the axe that she had, that she was carried that she used. So she carried, she put on like a tunic kind of a deal, hid the axe underneath it, went into the kitchen and just surprised the shit out of this woman and

murdered her brutally with the fucking axe. Yeah, a lot of axe murdering going on on the show today, I noticed. Yeah, well, it's pretty rough. The other people who were there, they said they heard screaming from the living room. And they went to check in the situation.

They saw her murdering her with the axe. So there's witnesses to all of this. And didn't it say, though, that, okay, so the homeless lady kills the social worker. Yeah. Didn't it say that she actually liked that social worker? I had a problem with a different social worker there. This is where I got very confused about who's killing who and why. And it all seemed, I could be wrong about that.

Yeah. It was a little weird. Yeah. They said that she was having an issue with somebody there. Right. And I don't know if it was her or not. I will say this. She took out her anger.

Yeah. She's certainly got that anger out. And this was like first thing in the morning, too, right? 9.30 a.m. Yeah. So this is like early morning, right? This poor lady's just in there getting a cup of coffee. I'm still getting sleep out of my eye.

I'm like, I'm not ready to kill someone with an accident. Could you imagine the last few minutes of your life is in the work? Ugh. No, thank you. No fucking thank you. So, you know she had the most boring conversation right before that. happened to oh how was your weekend oh he opened for anthony jessleneck oh cool oh he liked your act oh he complimented it oh great i know i hate those conversations you have with co-workers on mondays

you are the such a cunt motherfucker walked in here no the first thing he says to me dude was how was jeslin you were great it was a great weekend huh great weekend with jeslin wasn't it on the show too stop it's fucking dick god this is going to you know what motherfucker been your fucking car drive to Gary right now getting your fucking car and drive to Gary or there's going to be a problem I'm still annoyed that you thought that that was everyone's pissed at me because I haven't driven to Gary yet I worked seven days a week I don't know why that was ever on the wheel of consequence I told you that was a dumb one how the fuck my supposed to drive to Gary Indiana it's going to take days consequence but I'll get there buddy I'll get

I just got to see when the Cubs are playing at home in July well that'll be that'll be nice I'll get a date, though. We'll get a date. We'll get it figured out. Okay. I like the bingo. All right. Good.

I like the scavenger hunt. That'll be fun. That will be fun. Make sure you go alone. Just, so let's know what. Do you think I could find someone who want to go with me? I doubt.

I'm sure I'm going to go alone. Oh, man. Nobody, nobody who I'm friends with wants to drive to Gary, Indiana. You know, man, I got to tell you. And I'm being 100% honest here. You know how I stopped there just to say I did it when I came back from Chicago? Yeah.

The townhouse. is right off of the interstate there, like it's right there. That's the only reason I did it is because I was able just to veer off and go. The town hall in the middle of the day, sunlight, I got out of my car, I ran in front of it and ran back to my fucking car as fast as I possibly can. That's how mentally, like, terrified I was of that place. So the thought of going to do a bingo all day doesn't seem great, and that will make me feel a lot better for the delay.

I've told this story before, but when I worked at E-Bom's World, we all went to Atlantic City for a boxing match. And I drove there. So you drive through Philadelphia, then you get into Camden, New Jersey. Okay. And it was probably two in the afternoon in Camden, New Jersey. Elementary schools were being cut out,

and I was fearful for my life, and I was driving in a car. That's how scary that fucking place was. I was like, roll them up, let's go. So I can only imagine So what we'll do is on the board We'll replace Gary with Camden, New Jersey Drive to Camden, New Jersey

No, thank you. Never again. Oh, man, you're a good sport sometimes. Thanks, buddy. Carl, it's been a fun episode today. Don't forget to vote folks on Reddit R slash the creep off. And guys, if you vote for Carl this week,

that means many will be spinning the wheel of consequences on next week's show, our first show, back after our Philly trip. Folks, don't let that happen. You know what I mean? Cause. Cooz-Roo. True believers.

I need you. I need you true believers. All my shit's down. Fucking A. I'm going to jump out of window. Carl. So people were asking, they said, hey, Vinny, have you thought about putting the creep off on Patreon? That was in the chat here. I saw that.

Asked. It is on, it is in Patreon. It is. Yep. And every week you get. a bonus episode. There is a bonus episode every week on the Creveoff Patreon, Supercast, or backed by. That's correct. And it is hard to find for some reason. When you do the search for

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mornings at 1130. You can watch it live. You can listen to whatever. And What's great about it is we just go through these ridiculous stories like we just did for the scum parade. Sometimes we do a little pedophile hunter theater. I know we have a Hall of Fame episode coming up. Yeah, working on that. We were supposed to do another round of competing with the listeners. I don't know whatever.

We'll get there. We'll get there. We are mad at you for fucking dropping the ball on that. They're all mad at me because I haven't been to Gary. They were all mad at me too, say, I don't do my consequences. I'm standing here with the fucking cum book. There was one guy who said that And you fucking lost your shit

In the discredit this morning I'm like, oh boy I'm not going to be walking it to you today I just talk to Carl Talk to fucking Carl I can't make him do anything Creep up is shadow ban I think it is

Kinky Loco And very well might be I don't know why I mean we're obviously This is a wholesome People are afraid of the power That we speak the truth This is a wholesome family friendly

Podcast that we do here That we speak to power I don't fucking know I'm sure it's all political I'm sure it's all because of shit Carl said. Me? Womo's a great governor. He's not a governor.

He was great, though. He was my favorite. Okay. Okay. Fouchy does a fantastic job. Good job, girl. Keep that up. All right, buddy.

That up. Folks, make sure you clip that for him for the future. It's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. I guess let's just get the fuck out of here. Goa gear. It's the Queen of Off. It's the queen of.

Thank you.