The Creep Off - Episode 163: Measure twice, cut once!

Episode Date: May 1, 2023

#163 Measure Twice, Cut Once!This week Karl & Vinnie honor the late great Jerry Springer by nominating the creepiest guest from the Jerry Springer show: In WATC we meet a mother daughter true crime podcast team that are as boring as they sound: A new Consequence is created for the wheel: In the Scum Parade we meet awesome parents & terrible teachers and a dog lover! The score is currently tied 4-4. Vote here and help decide who will spin the wheel next week Check out the Scum Parade stories: Rowan man charged with taking part in sex acts with dog, posting video to social media (wbtv.com)Zavalla couple accused of forcibly tattooing children (ktre.com)Indiana elementary school employees charged after special needs student allegedly forced to eat his own vomit (yahoo.com)https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8815337/Florida-mom-realized-left-baby-die-hot-car-caught-masturbating.html Want to support the show? Find us on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to get exclusive merch an extra bonus episode every week! 

Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo! Welcome to

Welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps. Welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps. by creeps for you creeps my name is viny i'm your host a big shout out to all of my true believers out there excelsior true believers and as always joining me in the studio it is hot cucka carla what is happening vittie paulino good to see you my friend carl i i have a heavy heart more so than usual more so than usual today we're going to honor a man who really doesn't deserve any honors except for on this show this we should be the only people revering them everybody else should be kind of mad at him for what he did to society but today we're going to honor jerry springer carl

that's right jerry springer from the jerry springer show and nothing else he didn't do anything else in his life just that nope nope everything else he did i'm sure he was probably a nice guy he was good to his grandkids sure he wasn't a very good mayor i'm pretty sure i've heard that yeah let's not that. Let's just focus on the show. The show was fantastic. I was actually talking about this with Mike Geary on WATS. I love the Jerry Springer show. Me too. And the crazy thing about the Jerry Springer show is you'd watch an episode. And then they tease the next episode that's coming up tomorrow. And it always is way better. You're like, whoa, that's nuts. I want to be watching that episode. What an amazing point. Every time you're just like, wow, this is going to be incredible. This man daily topped himself. Yes. Every day he had to do it. And every day he did it. it's amazing it's amazing we're gonna honor that man's legacy in just a bit but i'd like to welcome to the show our results girl jessica hey jess hello now we didn't do a contest last week we did a uh kind of a catch-up uh hangover edition of the show yes yep but i wanted jessica to be here because i wanted her opinion on something and i also wanted to check in with carl on

something okay so here's the first order of business carl last week you told us you were going to church on Sunday. Correct. How did that go? All right. So this is like a mega church place, right? Oh, no. So it starts off.

There's a whole big band. There's like five different singers. Everyone's up on their feet. Everyone's into it. They're singing along with the band. It's going nuts. There's fog machines. There's lights.

Once that ends, this guy comes out. He's got like a PowerPoint presentation. He comes out and he starts to try to convince me that the media, the pharmaceutical companies and the government is lying to me. And I'm like, yeah, I think this guy's on to something. Are you a Christian now? Long story short, I'm going to church every Sunday from now on. I, okay. Can I tell you the truth, though? I didn't go to church. I, course you didn't. So what happened? Listen to what happened. I did watch it because they live stream it at the church that I'm going to. That doesn't count. Doesn't count. I know it doesn't

count. I'm going to go to church with me. She had to go to her mom's house that morning. She couldn't make it. So I'm like, all, we'll just do it next week. So we're doing it this Sunday coming up. Okay, well, since you told everybody you were going to do it this week and then you didn't, I would like to possibly add another layer. I watched the stream for a bit. All right. All right. I have an idea for the wheel, Carl.

Yeah. Because, Jess, what's the score right now? Four to four. You guys are tied. Game point. Which means today. Next week, someone's going to spin. Did it win by two in this game?

No. First to five. Okay. Carl, I was inspired by the revelation that Dick Masterson got out of your mother. in Philadelphia last week. Jess, you remember what that was, right? How when Carl was a little boy, he used to have Wiki the Ewok,

and he used to have, you talked for him. So I have a consequence ready to go, Carl. I hate you so much. I'm going to call it the Lil Carl consequence. Hold on here we go. This is so unnecessary. I'm getting mad at my mom all over again.

I found little wiki. It's little wiki. what's the consequence You have to go You have to walk around in public with this Now wherever you go for a week And you have to at least go into one place And talk to an employee of a venue

Through the puppet Through the through Wicked Like you could go into a coffee shop Be like I'm in like a vent here He's on a coffee please Whatever you have to do But you have to at least talk to one person

Through the fucking EWalk Like a lunatic Now hold on a second But this is something that you're going to have to do too if you uh it's the little carl consequence man it goes it happens to all of us oh god this sounds terrible yeah you got to walk her out a little little wiki all right well um you know i actually saw my mom yesterday we went to the hockey game and uh my folks were there and i forgot how mad at her i am and i'm glad that you just reminded me because i was actually having nice conversations with her

and i totally forgot that uh she's on my shit list well she's such a sweet lady no now Now when she's talking to Dick Masters since she ain't. And, you know, I got some dirt on that from behind the scenes. Apparently your brother and your mother were conspiring to figure out what to tell him about you to humiliate you. Wow. So we got another person on my shit list. All right. Yeah.

All right. Well, guess what? Next week's creep, man murders family in Rochester, New York. I guess I'll win because I'm going to bring you. Yes. It'll be perfect. So, Jess, did anyone comment on last week's episode on Reddit? did we get any interesting thoughts

on what we put out there for everyone? Well, actually, someone commented, this was the first one I saw. Political Animal 87 said, can we get a creepiest Jerry Springer guest show? We owe it to Jerry. It's like, Got it.

There you go. You got it. Just for you. All right, I guess I should read this one. There's nothing to vote on, but could the results go say, moist, quiff, clumps. Carl, a fucking idiot.

Carl's a fucking idiot. There I said it. Thank you. Not that, not that one. Yeah, I'm like I'll say it again. Why not? Because I don't want to. Well, I mean, I said it once.

Okay. They can clip it. All right. Well, now they're definitely going to clip it because you're so objection. Guys, what's going on right now is Jessica not wanting to do her job? What's happening? Well, they're going to try to get her to say stuff. I just said it once.

They're trying to get her to say things now. It's really fun for me. I see. Okay. So what else do you got there? Jess? This one I got a kick out of. Let's get a trans results girl.

He, but it's crossed out so as she, won't be as cute, but at least he'll cross out again. She'll be funny. Stop sorting comments by Lamous. That might help. And then someone responded to that saying, I wonder who's commenting getting read out last week. Okay. Okay. I read it.

Your old pal, I, you're old pal, DP, D.P.O? Okay. So I don't know if we can get Dylan Mulvaney. I'll reach out to her people. But we should definitely incorporate her into our logo. What do you think about that, Vinny? I think nothing bad could ever happen if we did that. Let's do it.

All right. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen coming up next week, our new results girl, Dylan Bolvaney. Yes. Sorry, Jess. It's all right. You know, we should start. We should change any of the scuba stream to creep off light.

Just to really bother people. Yes. I love it. I don't. Yeah. Here's a good point from, Wapio, hold on. Wapio says, Carl, just bring the doll to church and score two for it.

I haven't spun anything yet. I haven't spun that yet. And you know what, dude, what really bothered me about what you did there just so you know, sir? Yeah. Is that you really didn't nail exactly what goes on to those churches. I really did watch it. Yeah, I know. I was like, I'm studying what was happening there just to kind of map out my plan.

I don't know if I want to be front row or second row, but. Little less snake handling than I needed. But, you know, I'll let you get away. way of going to the megachurch. So any other good comments are Jess? Well, no, what was the thing you wanted me to say last time? It was the. Tito Tori.

Tito Tori. Yeah. Tito Tori. Tito Tori. Thank you. She's a really dirty birdie that Tito Tori. I hated that story. All right, folks.

Remember, Jess is going to be reading your comments on our poll next week. And we will be spinning after this contest. So, Jess, we will see you again soon. Thanks for stopping. on today and uh carl by jess i think it's time for us to ring a bell and get after it with the creepiest jerry springer guest of all time i'm going to hit the bell but real quick i just want to remind people that today is a holiday may first happens to be super chat monday i know i didn't know that either until i pulled it up this morning and i went what is today uh represent

it is super chat monday for all the super chat is out there i'm so happy So happy. I will read your superchats. But first, we got a round of the creepoff to play. And Vinny, you're first, buddy. I am. Now, Carl, usually you expect me to go on some long dissertation about why my person is the creepiest. It's to give you basically a mini book report. Yes, that's why I've loved this category. I'm like, he can't go on too long about a person who was out the Jerry Springer show. No, I can't. But what I can do is show you atrocity. Yes. I certainly can. I'll give a little shout out to our Super Chat, Two-Faced Line Bastard. Thanks for the two bucks. Holy hell, it's Super Chat Monday.

Yeah, I know. He's surprised too. I know. I didn't even realize it this morning. It's amazing. So, Carl, let's start off and meet, hear a little bit about my creep this week. Now, I want everyone to remember the Brian Johnson School of Creeps. The idea is, would you want to be around?

No. So you could try to win. What we've always talked about is. Way to frame it. Okay. I am definitely good to. frame this one because this is pretty gross everybody so

yeah this is a pretty sick one what I would say is you have to think about would you want to be around this person for even a minute of your day you would not want to be around this person and that is what I'm going to go with so Jerry tell us why we don't want to be around my creep the story on today's show could be the most

bizarre story we've done in our 15 year history is really crazy my guest began wearing women's clothing at age 12 and became a transsexual at age 35 but that's not the unusual part of this story well i would hope not jerry jeez i mean this is 2007 everybody so things are a little different so stop clutching your pearls now let's meet my creep and we'll find out what makes her so creepy. Let's meet Sandra. Sandra, what?

Sandra, what? Okay. What's going on? This is strange, isn't it? Yes, it's strange. Okay. Now, Sandra, for those of you can't see, is wearing a lovely red dress. Yes.

Very well made up. And is missing both of her legs. Yeah, she's got some nubs hanging off. She's got a couple dubs. Pastor D's, yeah. So let's find out a little bit more about this. So you're, how old are you now? I'm 48.

Now you're 48. When you were 35, you decided to become a woman. Mm-hmm. Okay. That's fine. That's fine. He's like, yes, like... At what age did you think you didn't want your legs?

At 14. At 14. When did you actually cut them off? I cut. This went off in 2000. I thought that one went first. Yeah. I love Jerry so much.

Okay. Why did you cut your legs? off. I didn't want them. I just, my brain just kept saying get rid of them, so I had to get rid of them. Who's laughing at that? When you became a woman, did your brain say get rid of something else? Yeah, but I couldn't cut that out. All right. This is a serious mental disorder. I mean, we've heard about this before, but Vinnie, I have to ask you. This is trans. This is someone who is identifying as someone without legs. Well, this is why I want to ask you, Vinny, at any point while you're pulling these clips where you think,

thinking, huh, you get to sit all day long every day? Did that seem like a good idea to you at any point today? Well, diabetes will get me, so whatever. Well, there's a silver lining there. This person did not wait for diabetes, but let me tell you what Sandra used to do, because Sandra really just felt dysmorphia about their legs. I tied the left leg up on me, and I'd look in the mirror, you know, and I'd see it was gone under my skirt, and it would be,

It made me feel like a whole person, you know. Okay. Sandra would tie her leg behind her body and look in the mirror thinking, wow, isn't it nice not to have legs? That's literally what this person just said. That's pretty good luck. Like you can't really model when you don't have legs, but you can try. Now, let's keep going here, Carl.

I'll find out a little bit more. You know what, Vinnie? Here you are making fun of. What's this person's name again? Sandra. Sandra. Here you are making fun of Sandra. Are you on television, Vinny? I don't see you on daytime TV.

You don't think I could get on one of these shows? Maybe that's going on the wheel of the consequences. Yes. Make some shit up and get on one of these. There was a great South Park about that. Okay. What kind of things have you done to get your legs? I've injected my knee with my feces,

120 ccs under my kneecap, just liquefy it and pump it in. What? uh you heard her you heard her carl she was injecting cc of feces that's just fun to say okay why would someone do such a thing why would someone inject their own kneecap with feces well carl mental patient here's why i had i had tried to get the left leg infected several times i figured maybe if i get it gang green the doctors would take it off every time i get it infected they just clean it out you know i'm like i'm getting tired of this i'm I mean, I'm getting it all infecting everything, and they're just going to clean it out.

You know, and I'm like, this ain't working. I had... Carl. Yes. The doctors did their job too well. Yeah. And they kept cleaning out all of the shit. This person was ejecting into their own body to get their leg amputated.

It's a struggle. Jerry. Jerry is a real. Okay, so Carl, yes. What else did they try? What else did you try, Sandra? If the doctors kept clear it out, what else did you go for? I've cut myself with razor blades.

I've drove nails in the bone. My brain would just say get a 16-pennie nail and a hammer and drive it in the bone, and I just drive it in the bone. I built the guillotine and dropped it on my leg. That didn't work. I'm like, go back to the drawing board. I've got to figure out something else. Do you think Sandra knew how to build a good guillotine, Carl?

Yes, not. If it didn't work the first time, drop it a few more times. Good God. It'll get there. So, obviously, you see a person sitting there without a leg, right? Yes. Well, let's find out how this happened. All right.

I cut the circulation off up here above the knee with a radiator hose clamps that you put on an automobile. Yeah. And then down here, I used, like, a panty hose with, like, a noose on it and make it real tight. And then I just got my saw and got everything in the kitchen, got everything ready that I needed. And I got up on the counter and I waited till the leg went numb and turned purple. And I got the saw and I put it on my leg and I powered it up. And then I shut it off and laid it on the counter. I looked at the saw and looked at my leg and said, well, it's down or never.

You know, and I grabbed the saw and put on my leg and powered it up. Were you screaming? Were you drinking? No. A little bit. Mm-mm. Never did pass out. Never did pass out.

You didn't pass out. It was calm and cool. My friends got there. They was all hysterical. Oh, you're going to die. You know, I'm like, shut up and go call the ambulance, what you? She took a power table saw to her leg while she was sitting at the counter in the kitchen. And it sounds like she had roommates.

That's insane. The cleanup had to be a huge pain in the ass. She's like, we want me to clean up. I only have one leg. Can you guys chip in here? You're going to die. Oh, my God. Well, okay.

Just call the ambulance. Sandra's missing her legs, but at least she's got her look still. Wow. De La makes a good point. Measure twice cut once. Hey, good point. De La may have named this episode. Thank you, Deela.

Super chats going in from Turbo Nealbrein. L.O.L. Vitty. Josh remembered the same creep. Two-faced lying bastard says, can't stay long. $4.99 for Carl and $5 for Little Caesars. Oh, thank you, two-faced lying bass. Hell, yeah. I think there was one up top, too.

They were rooting for the Celtics for you, buddy. Oh, thank you. B. Cal's 12. Let's go Celtics. Game one is tonight. We're going to do it. Fuck Philadelphia. All right.

You really hate Philly. I'm not a fan. Wow. Let's find out a little bit more of what's going on here, shall we, Carl? Yeah, I was just watching an entire episode of Jerry Springer. Keep going, Ben. How did you decide after you did one? Because I hadn't wanted both of them, neither one of them since I was 14.

So, you know, I couldn't tell somebody I didn't want both of them. I just said I didn't want one. I figured it really thought I was nuts. I didn't want one. No, no. If I told him, I wanted to cut off both my legs. Plus, if you only have one leg, everyone's going to be asking you for directions. It's very annoying.

It's a Dave a tell joke. All right, Carl. Yes. Do you think Sandra regrets this? No, I think Sandra's very happy about this. See, the part that's hard for me to believe is that there was no moment of regret. I'm not saying you didn't finally conclude to do it. But it's just, that's the part that.

I regret. Never a regret. never it's a little nuts so that's a mental patient is what you've brought for us to you know Carl sometimes when there's a creep the victim can be themselves interesting interesting well Vinny would you want to spend if this person wheeled up next to you while you were sitting out of park bench are you going to want to have a conversation with the lunatic who's chopping their leg off with a power saw in the kitchen who's ejecting their kneecap with feces I'm sure that stump smells terrific Vinny you could have stopped it trans-handicapped person. Okay. I was just laying it in for a fact. I know. All right.

So cutting off your legs, yeah, that's pretty crazy. But what that person didn't do, what Sandra didn't do is cut off her penis. Because cutting off your penis would be fucking nuts. Nobody would want to do that for any dumb reason. People do it all the time.

Yeah. There's probably 10 people who chopped their dicks off since we started. This is an everyday thing now, Carl. It is. Chop it off a dick isn't that special anymore. Well, those people who are chopping off dicks are turning

them into vaginas because they're transitioning. Earl Zia, not so much. Not the case with this one from 1997, Jerry Springer. Here's a clip. Next on Springer. What you're going to hear today is absolutely astonishing. Meet Earl, a man who cut off his own male organ. He did it with a pair of garden shears identical with these.

I wish it never happened. Earl holds Ronnie responsible. He's been stalking me for years. Have you two been lovers? So, yes, we were. He cut off his mantle. I regret it now, believe me. Next, Jerry Springer.

Today is 5 p.m. As I'm talking about, the promos, we get everyone so pumped up for this show because you're like, holy crap, this guy chopped his dick off. And the reason why he cut his own penis off in a horrific way, holy shit, is because there was a gay gentleman, Ronnie, who was kind of stalking him. Uh-huh. And Earl wanted to turn him off. You know, it wasn't enough to stop using.

deodorant and wearing shitty clothing, he figured, well, I don't have a dick anymore. Then this person probably will stop hitting on me. This is the most homophobic person on earth. If you are going to go to those measures of cutting off your penis to avoid any contact with a homosexual doubt. That's pretty insane. That's pretty insane. Now, the other one says that they were having an affair. Was that true, Carl?

Yeah. So, obviously, this guy's ashamed of himself for sleeping with this man and went to great lengths to make sure it never. happened again. So is this something you learned in church? Now, Vinnie. You should have because this is apparently okay. Now Vinny, listen to me. What you're probably thinking. We saw that Sandra was missing her legs.

You're probably thinking to me, well, hold on a second, Carl. Is this even true? Did this guy make all of this up? Jerry was asked about that. Not too long ago, if you want to play my other video clip here. Certainly. Oh, I remember

that. Well, yeah, that was, that was Earl, a man who decided to cut off his own penis? Yes. And, well, the story, as I remember, it was horrible. The story was that this gay guy was, he said, this gay guy was stalking him, and he wanted the gay guy to lose interest in him, so he decided to cut off his own penis. I said to him, why didn't you just change your number? You know, get a new address.

I mean, just, what the heck? It's a little bit extreme. When we hear of a story like that, a lot of people were watching and were like, that's just not real. That can't be real. It's got to be fake. Well, it was gone. Wait, so did you guys check?

Well, yeah, you have to check the lawyers all over it. Yeah, we had the police report, we had the hospital report, everything. And then, so at one point, this is interesting. So we, you know, he tells his story. And then I said, you know, what did you do with it? He said, I flushed it down the toilet. And everyone goes, oh. which was amazing

because when he said what he did everyone just sits there but flushing it down the toilet that's what people found to be disgusting God damn it what the modern day PT Barro ladies and gentlemen agreed so I have to say

that at least my creep is a creep because this person isn't just mentally ill he immediately regretted it and he regrets it to this day and I actually Vinny because I do the research I actually found audio from when he took his own penis off of his body.

Oh, I think I remember that episode. My cock is gone. My cock is gone. What do you mean? Hold on, stop. No, wait, did you, calm down. Calm down. My cock is down.

Oh, my God. Take it easy. Take it easy. Take it easy. I think it's 40. Oh, my God. It's not being there. Dude, put my cock back.

Please. Put it back. Right, Sal, close your eyes. Put it back. Take a deep breath. What's going to get everywhere? My cock is gone. Tomorrow morning at 11 a.m.

on Jerry Springer. He regretted it immediately. As you can tell there, as soon as his cock was gone, he really wanted it back. But unfortunately, it was flushed down the toilet. Yeah. This is a tough matchup. This is going to be a tough one. This is a tough one.

So, folks, remember, you can vote this week on our Reddit page. Vote for what would you rather keep your cock or your legs? That's the vote here, people. What's more important to you? By the way, I watched that video, so that was... I'll say this. Garden Shears is pretty bad. Yeah. But at least he didn't inject his penis with shit to get to get green and fall off.

That's stupid enough to do that. That's true. Yeah. By the way, that audio that I played, if you don't know, is Sale Governornelly from the Howard Stern show. He was hypnotized on an episode. And the guy told him that his penis was missing. And I didn't realize it's because I remember listening to that bit on the radio, but I actually found the video clip of it today. Sale pulls his pants all the way down.

And he's jumping around in front of Robin and everyone going, Ah, where's my cock? It's like right there flopping around and he's yelling at my cock is gone. Yeah, that was a good bit. That's a pretty good gang. And I was like, it's in my bag, Robin. My cock is gone! All right.

So that's my creep. That would be Earl Zia who cut off his own penis and flush it down the toilet. You know, John Wayne Bobbitt, if you want to get your penis cut off, you got to have a scorned lover do it. Yeah, you got to rape your wife a lot, punch you. but she doesn't make you food that's how you get your dick right you know what now I think about it it's probably a bad idea

why you think Jenny's listening no she doesn't listen to the show fair enough fair enough but you know why though many why's that because it's just too good Jenny actually likes real true crime shows for some reason

well obviously we know listen here's the thing about Jenny we love Jenny but she has terrible taste and like things yeah everything yes agreed all right Carl is it time for wATC it is buddy creepos yeah so who are these creepos is a segment on the show where we like to prove that we have the best true crime podcast on the internet today and the way that we do that is by analyzing every other true crime podcast one by one we've been doing this for months now I think we've already

listen to every single true crime podcast. Nope. Nope. Not even close. There are so many out there. What stink show did you bring us this time? All right. So this one came in from our buddy Alex.

Sent me some suggestions and I just picked off the top of the list and this is a winner because I can prove that our show is better than this one. What is up everybody? Welcome to episode 45 of the true crime podcast, Murder with my mother, where I talk murder with some random lady. I'm just kidding, with my mother. Some lady that gave you their womb for nine months. Whoa, good chemistry. Thanks. You want it back?

Good chemistry, you do. What the fuck? So yes, this is a show called Murder with my mother, hosted by Danica and Christy. And they're out of like the Vancouver area of Canada. Oh, this smacks of Canada too. I don't understand. I really don't understand why almost all of the audio is in just the right channel. And I just left it that way because that's what their show is for some reason.

It's worse than Opie recording a podcast. Oh, no. Yeah, it's not good. So I apologize if people are trying to listen to this and have it a hard time, check your right channel to see what this is sounding like. So this irritated me right from the beginning because you might know about this case. I guess it was pretty famous last year in Vancouver, a guy was stabbed to death at a Starbucks.

He was there with his fiancé, 37-year-old guy, he's there with his fiance and his three-year-old daughter, and he's waiting for his coffee outside, and there's a guy vaping. And I guess the guy says, hey, can you not do that around my daughter? And he gets stabbed to death.

Now, listen to the way this woman explains that story that I just told you. And tell me if you would know what the fuck is... I had to look it up, because I'm like, I have no idea what she's talking about. I apologize.

little bit of a longer clip, but the rambling here is insane. So to see someone be murdered inside directly in front of the door of the Starbucks, traumatizing horrible, even more horrible that it was filmed. And, you know, I know that his name was Paul Stanley Schmidt. He was 37 years old.

And he was there with his young daughter and his partner. So sad. Can you imagine that is what you have to live with for the rest of your life, knowing that your father was stabbed in front of a Starbucks while people film? Yeah, trying to advocate for you because it was, I know the man, the person who murdered him was vaping. We don't exactly know the exact specifics.

Unfortunately, I was actually sent a video before I knew about it and watching it very quickly I realized what it was and I turned it off because I don't believe that there, in the final moments of your life, that is a very intimate moment, especially in the middle, you know, there's a guy sipping his car. coffee, there's another guy filming and saying, like, he's dead, bro. He's dead, bro. And it's so fucked up. It's fucked up. And I know that he didn't pass away right there, but yeah, I think he died later in the hospital. He succumbed to his injuries. But it's just, for me, the first initial reaction should not be to pull your phone. I know I've said this a hundred times. Pull your phone out and film something. Vinny, there's so many things wrong with this. First off, this woman, she cannot tell a story. Nope. She had a lot of thoughts. she wanted to get out there. It didn't matter what order she would get them out in.

It doesn't seem like she got the storytelling jeans from old ma. No, certainly not. And she brings up a lot of things that she never explains. It's just like, I know there was a vape pen and listen, guys, I know, you know, you shouldn't stand people to death. And, you know, I know that Starbucks is expensive and some of their coffee. Maybe it's worth it to you. I don't know. Did she say the guy's name was Paul Stanley? Yeah, Paul Stanley Schmidt. Oh, the victim. Not that Paul Stanley. Yeah. Hello, Vancouver. Who's drinking cold gin?

Fucking Paul Stanley. That fucking guy. You know what? What are we going to get to do a kiss rant now? It's what's going on? No, it just makes sense that he has a partner. All right. So the other thing about this that's really annoying to me is this woman who hosts a true crime show says,

somebody sent me the video of this true crime going down and I couldn't watch it. That's kind of like what you should be doing, isn't it? And she explains that it's a very. intimate moment for someone being murdered. Now, I'm just going to throw this out here right now. It certainly is. It's very intimate. It's a time that you want to treasure in your life.

I'm just going to throw this out there. Murderer. If someone murders me on the street, you have my permission to watch the video. I won't know. You can't offend me at that point. It's not like my nudes leaking or something like that. You know, it's like if someone kills me, go ahead and watch it to your heart's content. It's fine.

Oh, I'm going to back it up. Yeah. Oh, I know. It'll be a month's worth of episodes on this show. I know what's going on here. The first one you pretend you're upset about it. By the third episode in with Blind Mike, you guys are just laughing your asses off.

Chemistry's ever been better at this show. I don't know. We're going to laugh on how Patrick Michael drove here and finally fucking stabbed you to death. Actually, you know, Patty Seacups was pretty funny. It was a pretty good bit. Yeah, he'll be third Mike. So, Vinnie, we like to give out advice sometimes.

Sure. and I like to give out important advice about how to get away with your crime these women also give advice to people don't just sit there and take your phone out while someone's fucking murdering someone what else you're supposed to do that's the perfect time to take your phone out

first off you're capturing it so if you want the murderer to be prosecuted that's a good thing secondly you probably have a TikTok account you probably have Instagram like you're going to need that video if you want to get some followers we'd be stupid not to.

Yeah, I mean, if social media is built for this. Yeah, I don't know what she's thinking with that. Don't just take your phone out. What are you supposed to do? Start skipping around. Freaking ridiculous. What am I supposed to hope that the Google Earth truck

is coming around at the same time to get a picture? Oh, that'd be pretty fine. So, Vinny, now we're going to find out when is it appropriate to stab someone to death? I'm sure you're wondering that. It eats the last slice of pizza. cheat on their consequences. Oh, whoa, who's cheating like consequences?

We don't know what transpired, how it was said, all that, but that's, that doesn't matter. It's never okay to stab someone to death. No. Boom, hot take. It's never okay. Well, what if they use the edward? Then it's okay, right? Absolutely.

Yeah, okay, that's what I thought. Absolutely. But other than that, it's never okay to stab someone to death. Good to know. So they talk about another case of someone. writing that down. Yeah. Then they talk about another case of someone getting stabbed to death.

And I'm guessing there's more to this story than what they're letting on, because this sounds ridiculous. In Port Coquitlam at a school walking his dog off leash. Which we all know, walking their dog, everybody can be put in that position. And his dog went running up to a group of people, and he just yelled out, my dog's friendly. And the next thing you know, those men all stay. stabbed the man with the dog and they swarmed him they swarmed him and murdered him and those people have just the crown has just announced that they will not be continued with charges yeah because he's considered uh it was considered self-defense which is fucking bullshit yeah well hold on a second

a guy gets stabbed to death by a group of people and no charges and they're calling his self-defense and this woman acts like she knows something better than the police and the court system Did anybody get it on video? I'm just wondering, can we ask her? No, it's not on video. I just, that cracks me up because she's like, she's acting like, can you believe it? You just go around stabbing people. It's like, well, I'm sure there was more to it than that.

Yeah. My guess. I'm sure this dog was a menace. I'm sure it was. He probably didn't pick up after it. That's really what happened. They probably all stepped in poo. Yeah.

Slipped. Yeah. All right. You fuck up my J's. You're getting a knifed. Let's find out why they're doing this show. What is the purpose of murder with my mother? We can choose what we bring awareness to, and for me, you guys, surprise, surprise, trauma, mental health work, you know, sexual assaults, murdering your partner, murdering anybody, murdering a random stranger, murdering, murdering, murdering, murdering in general.

In general. Gender-based violence. Yes, specifically, you know, we have said before, Dateline, almost every other episode is either a spouse, has murdered their significant other. They've had someone murder their significant other. It's a familial thing. Like, it's the people the closest to you, which, or fucking people you don't even know in a random place. What the fuck point are you trying to make? Guys, I just want to say, I don't think murder is good.

I don't know if you know the person, it's not good. If you don't know the person, it's not good. Gender-based murder, whatever that is. Wow. You think her mother Like sexual assaults When the thing turned off the mother was like That was a very good job

What the fuck are you talking about? This woman is all over the place She sounds like an idiot Not a great take Sounds like a real idiot Okay But When do you deserve to be murdered

Vinny Like maybe if you have a certain profession In life Like if you're like a prostitute Maybe Uh huh Uh huh Again

Just because you live a certain lifestyle Does not mean that you deserve to be murdered. Boom, hot take. Oh, okay. I misunderstood that. Apparently, no one deserves to be murdered, Vinnie.

Wrong. I'm learning a lot of shit from these ladies. They're teaching me a lot of things I didn't know about. Now, this is annoying to me. How many episodes of the show are out there? This is the 45th episode just came out last week. This is annoying to me right here, Vinnie, because these are these women, and just like the Vanished with Marissa Jones, getting themselves involved.

in the case. They're not reporting on it. They're getting themselves involved in it as if they're private investigators or something all of a sudden. And there's an active murder case that they're talking about on this episode. So we did reach out to the family right now, which I'm hoping is a good sign. We were received with very open arms, but the family has been instructed by the police not to talk to anyone. media-related, no podcasters, and obviously we respect that. Yeah, good.

You're not that important. Leave them the fuck alone. Leave them alone. They have a family member who died. Leave them alone. After listening to this, I want to go back. Do you remember that show that we did a few episodes back where the guy went to the Alex Murdoch courtroom? Yes.

And just took like stock footage of the courtroom, the gate that he's coming through. With amazing commentary, like, this is where people enter the courtroom. Yeah. That was more informative than anything, these women. have done and that is astounding it's it's so annoying to me that these women think they're going to solve the case it's like you're just a podcast every podcaster is getting a little too big for their britches i know everyone was tuning in hoping we would have the scoop yeah i know but the police said no the victims can't talk to us and know the detectives aren't going to give us

the inside evidence no shit jesus all right so these two are stupid let's talk about the way they go about their show that's different than other true crime shows. Because as we have documented, there are too many true crime shows. I hope this goes for a real twist and it does turn into a family murder situation. So you got to do something, Vinny, that's different than what the other people are talking about. Sure. A lot of the time, if you are a victim of a crime like this, you know, your life is marred by that. And it becomes the focal point.

Your murder is what you essentially become famous for. Exactly. And here on murder with my mother, we do like to give the story of the person, what they stood for, what they were doing, the successes in their lives. Who gives a shit? Who gives a fuck. Do these people not know how true crime works? Obviously not because most victims are not interesting people. It's not like this person was murdered at the age of 47.

You're going to be like, and wait until you hear about what you did in their 30s. It's fascinating. Like, no, there's just fucking normal people who have nothing going. And when there is an interesting murder, it gets played to death on, like, big networks. Right, right. There's nothing you're going to, none of these people are going to find any cases that. Well, why don't you just do a show about someone who died of natural causes? If all you want to do is tell people's stories, why don't have to get murdered for you to profile them?

This is a terrible idea, as my point, Vinnie. It's a terrible idea. I don't care about this person and what they did with their life. Agreed. It's not great. It's not great. All right. So this is, um, this is their mission here with this episode.

So with that, we will jump right into the episode on the murder of Trina Hunt. And we actually want to call this the hunt for justice because that is what we want to do with this episode. We hope to bring the killer to justice. Good luck with that. So basically, they think that the FBI's most wanted or America's most wanted or you're not a police investigator. Hunt for justice. Oh, we're going to get to the bottom of this with our amazing podcast. Okay, if that's the case, Vennie, that they are going to relay these facts, they're going to dig in, they're going to do the research.

I have to think that they're going to go through multiple, multiple sources. I sure hope they do a lot of research if they're going to be the ones on cover the facts in this case and find the murderer. I sure hope that they're doing a ton of research from multiple sources. But I would just want to say also, we're taking all of our info today from trinahunt.com. All of their information is from TritaHunt.com, which, by the way, if this person, you want to profile them, not because they were murdered, was TritaHunt.com like an e-commerce site before she was killed or something? Right. Like, what was this website? I'm pretty sure this site was built because she was murdered. And if you're getting all of your information from there, you don't need to do a podcast, just tell me able to go to TritaHunt.com.

Would it be funny if they were just pulling people's, like, Tinder accounts just to get the information out of them? It'd be something. It'd be something more than just go to a website. All right. That's the information anyway. That's why, despite my co-host interrupting me, that's why we are the best true crime podcast on the internet, or at least better than murder with my mother.

And all the other ones we've covered. Correct. Thank you, Carl. What a wonderful presentation. Thank you, buddy. I am ready to move on and do some voicemails with you, folks. All right. Here we go.

The creep-off voicemail segment is brought you by the city of Syracuse. The Atlanta Falcons drafted Syracuse lineman Matt Bergeron, with the 38th overall pick. The Falcons rep then began frantically screaming, just kidding, just kidding, as he was dragged off stage. See you in Syracuse. We got a super chat in from Animal Kelly.

Thank you for the 40 bucks. Holy shit. Not even Tuki can make these birds some broads interesting. I don't know. Tuky's pretty good. Woka, woka. Haka, haka. Oh, I got to see more of Tuki.

Yeah, I was watching. I was watching them over the weekend quite a bit. Nice to see, Animal Callie. Thank you very much for the $40. It is Super Chat Monday, and we are celebrating with style. Now, Carl, this is a message to me about you. I wonder what somebody would be calling to Taddle on you about. Oh, Jesus.

Vinnie, did you listen to Carl's latest WATP episode, Sissy Whisper? It's really weird in telling you of how creepy Carl actually is. Because when he does these, like, pervy, like, fetish podcast, he's always acting like he doesn't know what he's getting into ahead of time. He claims ignorance. He's a fucking creep. I know, Carl, that you're a little sissy

who has a mommy-dami that makes funny a little clitty that you wear panties around the house. I know it, Carl. Okay? You don't have to pretend that you don't know. I mean, it's not cool if you are into that. I mean, you are into it. But, Benny, it's fucking weird,

and I need you to call him out on this fucking weird creeper behavior every time he does he's a weird BDS podcast. Thanks. Wrong. Have a good one. Vinnie. Hey, I am. Many people's champ.

Number one, Vinny. Vinny, Winnie. I like that part. All right. All right. Let me play a voicemail to the Cauton to the WATP voicemail line.

Hey, Carl. Occam's Razor. Maybe this dude in China was just fucking sick and tired of his neighbor's 11-Hawkins. fucking chickens. What the fuck is he doing with 11,100 fucking chickens?

I can't get past that one. Yeah. Love the show. We'll see you. Thank you. That's a reference to our biggest creep of the universe segment from the Philadelphia Live show. Vinnie found an interesting story.

You know, we ought to do a crossover episode like that. We got to talk to Vic and... Diccan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Vig. Just want to let you know as we're listening to last week, cruity socials, and Carl reminds people to sign up for Drew and Mike their YouTube page, which is kind of amazing, because when I hear him on Drew and Mike, he never mentions,

guess what? Guess what? I know, I'm paddling on you, Carl, but I just couldn't resist. Never? Have a great show, guys. For you. I've talked about the creepoff many times on the Drew and Mike show.

So I listen to the bonus episodes. I really like Drew and Mike and I like it when you guys do stuff together. Yeah, thank you. Every time at the end of it now. Drew goes, Carl, how's everything going on? Who are these socials? Yeah, he loves that show.

Every time. Never. How's the creepoff? Never. Hey, man, we're doing some good stuff over there. The creep off. You know what the creep off? You get a bonus episode every week when you subscribe to the Patreon,

back by or Supercast. None of that. Anyone else zoning out right now? What's going on? Jesus Christ. What is this guy talking about next to me? Oh, you're such a dick. All right, I'm done with voicemails.

Carl, are you ready to move on to a scum parade? I sure am. All right. Scum parade. Take me on a raid of these fuck-sharets that these creeps have made. Scum parade. Vinny and Carl going to tell you about some fuck shit. Scum parade.

Like stories of a kid. by his mom or dad soaking up the blood of a cat scum parade We're going to start off today in the lone star state of Texas A mother and stepfather arrest after he allegedly tattooed their children, Garo. Yeah. What the fuck motivated this? They are either the coolest parents of the world

or the worst parents of the world. Now, the affidavit states the following claims by Child Protective Services and a subsequent investigation by the Angel County Sheriff's Office, Megan Mayfar and Gunnarfar, 27 and 23 years old, tied down to her children ages 9 and 5 and forcibly gave them tattoos. I got to say, it's one of the weirder hobbies I've heard about. Did you look up to see if there's a subreddit for this? You guys could cover on subreddit surfing?

If there is, I will find it. Yeah, and honestly, tattooing children. Maybe this should be a consequence. We have to tie up a child to tattoo them. I'm sorry, kid, but no one was voting for me the last few. Wings. I don't know what to tell you. Don't worry, kid. I'm going to make it cool. Just to be a little happy face. Yeah. Now, one child was given a tattoo on their foot. The other one was on the shoulder. The investigator alleges that the parents tied the children down with a rope, covering their mouth with tape and covering their eyes with a rag as the tattoos are being made, which I think is fun because then it's a surprise. They get to see what it is after. Good point. Also, there's a thing about children and stabbing them over and over again with a very sharp object. They don't like it. They hate it.

So you got to quiet him down somehow. Yeah, they hate their vegetables, too. I know. You know. Right. Fucking kids have to happen. Right. Kids are the worst.

They'll warn. Now, the affidavit also alleges that the parents sought to conceal the tattoos by cutting, scraping, and scrubbing the tattooed areas after they've already, they have raw tattooed skin. Yes. Yeah. It's an open wound and they literally used lemon juice to try to get the ink out of it. Yes, they did. I mean, why not just like rub salt in it while you're at it and spray the kid the face?

with pepper because I mean you're just torturing this poor kid who didn't didn't want the tattoo in the first place now here's who reported this the kid's real dad yeah the children's joint custody it seems like the children's biological father and stepmother saw the tattoos on the children and then asked megan hey hey why why did the kids get tattoos yeah and by the way I don't think our son's that bigger raiders fan I don't know why that's the tattoo you got. He claims she then laughed about it, got in her car, and drove away.

Yeah. That's what he reported the incident to CPS. Well, in her defense, it is pretty funny. It's kind of funny. Megan Mayfar is charged with two counts of injury to a child and unlawful restraint. While Gunner Fire is charged with one count of unlawful restraint and one count of injury to a child, they are both on a bond totaling $35,000. And the other detail in here that I thought was weird, there were other people,

in the house who aren't getting charged while this was happening. It's some sort of like tattooing children party that they have going on. Are they inviting people over? Does Q and I know about this shit? It's the thing that people are doing now? I want to know what was tattooed on these kids. I know, me too. I really want to know

what it is. Why aren't their pictures? Why aren't their pictures of this? I can't imagine that these tattoos were good. No, it doesn't sound like their artists. They did it with a staple. They used a staple to tattoo these kids. Yeah, they did use a staple. I forgot to It's not like a nice equipment or anything. It's probably not good.

Well, let's move on to Rowan County, North Carolina, Carl. All right? A man has been charged and accused of sexual activity with the dog. According to press release on April 12th, the Rowan County Sheriff's Officer received information that a resident was allegedly partaking in sexual acts with an animal. Such information prompted the immediate investigation, obviously. Investigators said that the evidence discovered during the investigation confirmed

that Mr. Cody William Sprague sent an explicit video through a social media application that depicted him taking part in sexual activity with a dog. Whose dog? The dog belonged to Sprague and his ex-girlfriend who was unaware that the sexual misconduct had occurred in their residence. So wait, every time this guy's pulling his pants down around the house, this dog is running out of the room as fast as possible, and the girlfriend wasn't even suspicious about this? This dog freaks out when it hears a zipper.

Yeah, right. Exactly. The girlfriend just thought that was normal. dog behavior? You've got to look into these things. Investigators said, well, the detectives conducted an interview with Sprague, and they say that he confessed that the accusations brought against him were factual. He's also, not only is he horny for dogs, he's stupid.

Yeah. The sexual acts were not performed on the dog, but instead on Sprag. Therefore, it is believed the dog was never distressed, according to the report. So what I think is going on here, Carl. Explain this. Is that this man was having the dog lick his asshole and balls. Oh, I thought the dog was fucking him in the ass. And I'm like, how the hell do you pull that one off?

Maybe he did. I don't know. I don't know about you, Benny, but I would treat a dog like I would a fat chick. If we were going to fuck, it would be dark. Not be anywhere near one. And it would be dark and it would be our secret. Thank you. I am a big step.

I'm stepping on fucking everything today. It's bizarre. And I'm going to fucking apologize. I don't know what's wrong with me. How often you've been, uh, it is me today. It is all my fault. It's on me. I own it.

All right. Let's go with the best story I've ever fucking read in my life. Indiana in Indiana elementary school, Carl, employees are facing charges after a seven-year-old special needs student was allegedly forced to eat his own vomit in the lunchroom with the spoon as others watched. What's the point of teaching special needs if you can't have a little fun with the students? Now, the life skills teacher Sarah Seymour and Brown Elementary Skills Life.

skills instructional aid Deborah can nip. Sarah Seymour is 27 and Debra is 63. They're each charged with neglect of a dependent as a level six felony and failure to report. Two other people that worked at the school also were arrested because they saw it and they didn't report it. Now, here's what happened. Police established through various interviews and other evidence that Seymour allegedly is said to have told the victim that if he vomited, he would be required to eat what he threw up. Thank you. Taylor was present and provided a tray for the child to vomit on. So in other words, don't vomit and there won't be any problems. Correct. Okay. Well, this kid apparently doesn't listen. Uh-oh. Now, the video that they saw, because there's a camera in the

lunchroom, shows the victim seated at a table and at some point the child stands up, a period to gag on his food that he's instructed to sit down. After the victim does a need vomit. Kinnip allegedly provided the spood that the child was compelled to use. Oh, God. To consume some of the violent. This is like Eric Cartman level sadistic. That's brutal. Both Seymour and Knapp are seen our video standing on each side of the child while he

consumed a portion of the vomit. Police said the child is then required to clean up the remainder of the vomit with paper towels. The crazy part was no one could tell the difference between his vomit and the soup dejeure. It's a school lunch, Carl. School of cafeteria. What are you going to do? Seriously, though, I want to just say this. It's better on the way out.

I just want to say this to you, Vinny. I mean, being mentally impaired is hard enough. I mean, you know what I mean. Fuck you, dude. All right. Fuck you, too. That sounds like a fun day at school. They're making retards eat their own vomit.

Now, apparently they have been arrested and they are now going through the steps to fire these two, which is shocking that you have to go through steps besides get the fuck. out of here. Yeah, it's ridiculous. You fucking sickos. Man, what a lawsuit's coming down the pipe to this school. I do know, like, I'm not a dog owner, but I do know dog owners who want the dog to clean it up themselves.

So I guess it's a similar kind of thing, right? Like, if you're going to make the mess, just eat it up. Get it out of here. You know, I have three dogs. Yeah. I do not go for that. You don't want the dogs eating their own? It's disgusting.

I'll throw up. It's disgusting. I agree. But I will tell you this. they have beaten me to it. Like I've seen a dog puke and before I could get paper towels and get away from there, they're fucking going to town. They're going to town.

So maybe this kid requested the spoon. Maybe he's like, hey, I'm going to need a spoon over here. Just got myself a new treat. All I have is one of those little wooden paddles from the ice cream. It's not going to cut it. It's not going to cut it. Yeah. Now, Carl, our final story today, I think a jingle is in order.

Let's talk about math, baby. Let's talk about a yes-a-re. Let's talk about all the bad things. and the bad things meth and see let's talk about meth Now we could also play the Florida jingo too

with this one This is a double whammy This is a Florida You got to get your shit to tell her Why so many creepy bucks

What's the hell Going hot Maybe it's a Swamp gas For plaguing OPEC Be in a gift, oh, ha, ha, ha, come on Florida. Oh, Sarah Dunlap, the voice of an angel. Thank you, Sarah.

Now, folks, a Florida mother has been accused of leaving her newborn daughter in a hot car to die well high on crystal meth. Okay. Okay. She'd only realized what she had done was when a friend walked into her bedroom where she was masturbating to let her know what was going on. Megan Dopp, and she's 30 years old, left her. newborn baby, McKinley Garner in a vehicle in Panama City for almost four hours last year at September 2nd. Can I just say this, though, in Megan's defense?

Nope. I know this seems fucked up, but if she had brought the child into the bed with her to do meth and masturbate, people would be pretty upset about that, too. Yeah, but the kid would be alive. I'm just saying, it'd be pretty fucked up. Okay. She had done that. You do make a point.

The mom was arrested Tuesday in charge of the aggravated manslaughter of her child who was born July 14th of last year. She's being held without bond. Now, here's what happened. She left McKinley alone in the car for almost four hours before a witness said she caught Devin in her bed masturbating with her shorts unbuttoned. Upon being caught, Megan quickly moved her hands out from underneath the covers. The witness then asked the mother about her baby.

She then said, oh my God, jumped out of bed. Wait, what baby? Oh, my baby. Fuck. And ran to the car to find her newborn baby unresolved. responsive. Deputies were called to the Panama City home, and they were unsuccessful at performing CPR on the infant. Now, police executed a search warrant found in a bathroom, a pipe that deposited for residue of marijuana and methamphetamine. They also found a blue vibrator on top

of all the other items on her nightstand, as well as spoiled baby bottles and food. What was this? Like Hunter Biden's place or something? There's a leather mask and a half-eaten sandwich. This one was having some fun. By the way, I got to say, you saw the picture? You saw the picture? pictures in there. Yeah. This one was pretty hot. And now that her newborns out of the picture, even hotter. Oh, yeah. She told police that she took her new, her older child to school that morning and, uh, denied that she used drugs. Yeah. Well, the good news is because I, anytime there's a meth head who gets caught. Yeah. I always think they probably do a good job representing themselves. And she has refused to the attorney. She will be representing herself at this

case. Now, here's smart. Here's a fun thing that, uh, you don't. know about this story, Carl. Would you like to know how I found out about this one? I'm going to guess Alex told you? No, no. This was sent in by a listener who is wishing to stay anonymous. I'm going to read you what I was sent and I'm going to read you this email correspondence. And one of these days to this person, I would very much like to get them on the show. They could stay anonymous if they'd like to, but I have a lot of questions. You could be a potato if you want to. Yes. I'll do a whole show with you. Here's the quick breakdown. Mom took a baby to buy cigarettes, went back home, left in the car, went inside and

did masturbated. Approximately four hours later, realized the baby was in the car, convicted by a jury in 30 minutes. I said the subject was, I testified in a case a couple weeks ago. Oh, this is a person to witness. And I said, so you were witness to what part? And they said, I was the medical examiner who did the autopsy on the baby. Ooh, that's a brutal job. And I said, what a gig you have. Yeah, wow. To that person, if you ever want to come out and talk about this stuff with this, I would love to hear it. They sent me a bunch of other links to stories of things that they've had to testify and been involved in. Wow, that's very fast. I'd love to have that person on.

Yes, very much so. So you are totally welcome person that is an out of this job that I have. I have to work with this guy every week. Could you imagine me in there just stepping on the autopsies? Just stomp it all over the place. Yeah, you're like, yeah, but what's this thing right here? You're like, ah, don't touch it. I'm just constantly picking up the body's hand and like slapping him with it.

Just fucking around. Was this bruise here before? I guess it wouldn't bruise. That's kind of dumb. Hey, why is this baby hitting itself, huh? Come on. Come on. You really are the worst.

Yeah, I am. And that's why I host the creep off. That's correct. All right. I think we missed maybe one or two of the... Let's go back and take a look. Super chats. Do not read.

Two-face lie bastards. Sorry. Sorry. And Two-Face Lion Bastard says not only the best, but the most well-research show. That's correct. That's awesome. creep off. That's us. We're watching episodes of Jerry Springer. We're watching interviews with Jerry Springer. We're doing it all. We really did a lot of research

day for this one. We sure did. We work hard for this. Now, please remember, we do a bonus episode every Wednesday and this week joining us, Brian Johnson. Nice. Because he also sent me a horrific story. And I was like, you got to come out of do this one with us, bud. So he's going to do it with us on Wednesday. Awesome. And then we'll be back on Monday with another episode. And one of us will be spinning the wheel. So we hope to see you then. Hey, let's do a quick meeting on air. So since Brian Johnson is going to be on the show, should we do that one live on YouTube for everyone and then put it behind the paywall after the fact? Well, like we had done a few times before. I'll tell you what. We could do the free preview for May.

This will be our free preview for May this week. So yeah, even if you're not on our Patreon or supercast or backed out by, we'll be live at 1130 a.m. Eastern time Wednesday with Brian Johnson. Right here on this channel. Feel free to join us. From my studios. So we'll take that with however you want to take that. You're real. I prick sometimes, Carl. I'm just saying.

I'm just saying. Oh, man. All right, folks. We'll be back next week. Until then, it's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Gagia. It's the creep off.

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