The Creep Off - Episode 166: Men Aren’t Nurturers

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

This week the PGA invaded our hometown of Rochester, Ny so we decided to nominate the creepiest golfer of all time: In WATC we check out a show called “Murderiffic” spoiler it’s not gre...at: In the Scum Parade we meet a terrible pet owner, a German male nurse & a very brave cleaning woman: Karl reads a brand-new letter from Macomb County Prison from Podcast HitmanThe score is currently tied 1-1. Vote here to decide this week’s winnerCheck out the Scum Parade stories: Bloke uses pet python as weapon and whips victim to ground in wild street fight - Daily StarUsed condoms mailed to dozens of women in Bayside, Melbourne | Daily Mail OnlineNurse in Germany murdered two patients so he could be ‘left in peace’ | Germany | The GuardianA maid was asked to clean up a ‘real mess,’ Florida cops say. Then she saw the tarp (yahoo.com)Want to support the show? Find us on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to get exclusive merch an extra bonus episode every week! 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm very excited to do a show with you today, Carl, because I hear you have a podcast Hitman letter that you brought for everyone. Oh, is this supposed to bring that today? You said you were on WATP the other day. Oh, that's right. I did say I might do that. Well, are you going to do it or not?
Starting point is 00:00:14 Oh, well, can I run home real quick? Son of a bitch. Can I run home and grab it? Okay. I got a bone to pick with you, but I'm going to do it after the start of the show. All right. Attention parents.
Starting point is 00:00:26 What you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot. It's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't any of these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation. Horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive, and I'm not backing down. Gookoo, goon, goon.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Golf requires goofy pants and a fat ass. Hello Creepos. Welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast, the show About Creeps by Creeps. For you, creeps, I'm your host. My name is Vinny. Excelsior. True believers. And joining me, as always, it's hot cucka, cacarla. Hey, what's happening? Vinnie Paulino, good to see you, buddy.
Starting point is 00:01:35 You know, you say that. I do say that. You say we're friends, we're pals, and you show up here today. Two strikes already. What's what happened? Number one, you showed up here with a sandwich, and you didn't text me to ask me if I wanted one. He shows up here with fucking DeBela's. He's got a whole fucking sub.
Starting point is 00:01:53 And he goes, oh, man, I'm just so hungry. I haven't eaten. I wanted to eat before the show starts. And he sits down and just starts eating a sub in front of me. You know how fucking wound up I'm going to be now. I didn't realize that that's like most of my friends are fine with that sort of thing. I forgot that you have a whole culture. My people do not take this lightly.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I forgot about your people. Yeah, my people don't take a lot of things lightly. Now, the second strike. I promoted the creep off when I was on the BS show last week. What else did you wrong? Oh, that was great. You certainly did. You certainly did.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Maybe you did. I think about it. Yeah. I certainly did. The second thing is you didn't bring the podcast Hitman letter, you stupid asshole. No, I did. It's right here. Woo!
Starting point is 00:02:37 All right. You know what? You're back to Evans. I brought it. You're back to Evans. All right. Well, we might read it today. Now, in honor of Rochester, New York making national news, we're going to talk about the creepiest golfer in the world today.
Starting point is 00:02:50 We turned into Philadelphia in the golf world. We were booing people, all sorts of stuff. A bunch of fucking trailer park trash wearing Bill's jerseys sitting in the stands. There were Bill's jerseys to country clubs around here. Disgusting. Looking good. I was excited about that. I think a lot of the assholes that go to these events come from Canada, if I had a guess.
Starting point is 00:03:10 If I had to guess a specific area where they're coming from, it's probably Canada. Canada trash. All right. Carl, let's talk about last week's episode. We honored the moms before we get to the actual contest today. And to tell us who won last week's episode, it is our review girl. And I had not looked at this yet, so I'm finally here. Hey, Jess, welcome.
Starting point is 00:03:29 On time this time. Well, I'm just thrilled to see you because I know you're a bringer of good news today. Oh, shit. For you, Vinnie, unfortunately not for you, Carl, because today's winner, or last week's winner, is Vinnie with 93 to Carl 65. Beat your ass, Carl. Unreal. You know what? It wasn't a numbers game.
Starting point is 00:03:53 You said because your victim had. murdered eight and mine only murdered seven that you should win automatically but it's really about the style and how you do it totally disagree you can't just fucking strangle them when they're oven fresh like that the voters fucked up in 2020 they fucked up again here what are you going to do jesus carl still reliving that someone did say someone did say sorry carl the kill count is seven to eight but dead babies are especially heinous these are their stories oh carl all right i guess two of the just numbers you win yes now i know and now the score is updated it is now one to one carl one to one in this round uh what were our listeners thinking this week on the reddit jess did
Starting point is 00:04:37 they have any thoughts on the on the battle that we had here well someone the first uh top comment says psa not a show to listen for your lunch hour uh you're welcome correct i completely disagree what do you mean smothered and rap baby sounds like a fancy restaurant special And then the other person replied, and keto-friendly. There it is. That's the whole common thread right there. All right, very good. Very, very good.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Thank you for the update on that. Yeah, this is not the show to listen to during your lunch break if you put out eating lunch. You know, today I think you'll be all right. Yeah? I think you'll be all right today. Not a lot of serial killers are good at golf. You know, I was like, I just Googled serial killer golfer. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Nothing. Turns out that they're generally just straight-laced douchebats. Yeah. You got John Daly and then a bunch of rich kids. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty much it. Not far off. De La is coming in because you know what today is, Carl. What is today? It's Super Chat Monday. Oh, my God. I almost forgot. It was Super Chat Monday. Thank you, DeLah for reminding us. Daela said, don't talk about Coburger or DeVito for two bucks. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Dana. I was laughing at the one that you actually highlighted over. Oh, what did that would say? I thought her speakers were supposed to be a chap. correct that's why you got me that's why you got me you got me jessica is our uh what what's your title on the show results girl i'm the results girl yeah yes yes got you there it protects you from carl don't be a review girl now ladies and gentlemen you're talking about you've done nothing you've done nothing you've done nothing you've done nothing but provide quality entertainment for all of us just you be you car all right buddy i'll do my
Starting point is 00:06:23 thing. Now, Jess, I thank you so much for joining us today. Where can everybody follow you, as always? Jess, daydreaming on Twitter, Instagram, all those places. And today on Hack the Movies, where the premiere, that's Captain Say, reviewing Nightmare on Elm Street 3. I'll be on it, along with Casey, the final girl. So, so check it out. Awesome. Nightmare and Elm Street 3. I'm trying to remember which one that was. That's where it starts getting real silly, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, that's where that turned straight comedy, didn't it? Yeah, but yeah, that's the one where he says, Welcome to Primetime Bitch.
Starting point is 00:06:57 That's a good one. A classic, a classic. It certainly is. All right, Jess, we'll see you next week. Thank you for everything. See you next week. You know, I was, I forget what show it was, when I was listening to Brian Johnson talk the other day about if they ever met a celebrity
Starting point is 00:07:11 that he was like taken aback by, because he's met a lot of celebrities, obviously. And he said, what's his name, London, the guy who plays Freddie Krueger? Oh, yeah, Paul? No, not Paul. I can't think of his name, but he goes, yeah, that was the one. one guy I was very excited to meet. Who would it be for you? Someone I'd be really excited to meet
Starting point is 00:07:31 celebrity-wise. You know, I've actually met the guy. Aaron Freeman, who's Gene Wien would probably be one of my top picks. Okay. But Les Claypool, I guess. And you know what? It's funny. You know, I'm friends with the guitarist in Macedon.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Les Claypool, the dude from Primus? Yeah. Okay. So, I'm friends with the guy, The guy plays guitar in Macedon, and they were touring with Primus, and he gave me tickets. In Buffalo, I went and saw those two bands play. And afterwards, he goes, oh, man, I would have had to get backstage tickets. I totally forgot to give you that. I was like, oh, yeah, okay, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:08:08 You were probably late. I was there. I was there. Okay. I would have been there. I would have been there. F-Mogg says Robert England. Robert England.
Starting point is 00:08:18 That is correct. Paul London. I'm stupid. Laughing my ass off Trevor's Joe. Yeah, I said London. I'm an idiot. Yeah. Whoops.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Now, folks, we promised you a contest. It is a competition. Everything is tied one-one. And now we need to give you our nominations for creepiest golfer of all time. Carl, why don't you hit that bell? Yeah, you're up first. Let's go. All right, Carl, my creepiest golfer is a pro.
Starting point is 00:08:47 He is a pro. Sorry, in one second. There we go. He's relatively young guy, 26. six years old at the time of the crime we're going to talk about today. Okay. He is a young Canadian golfer. Don't let that influence your opinion of him.
Starting point is 00:09:01 He played at seven PGA tours since 2012. And according to PGA, he played his last in 2016. He was not very good. He missed the cut multiple times. He had seven career starts on the tour, never completed one. Golf is hard, Vinny. I know. Golf is hard.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Listen, nobody's inviting me on tour. No. Not even to tell jokes. And I'm all right at that. Like, I'm better than average. Prove it. Better than dirt. Prove it.
Starting point is 00:09:27 That's that fancy storebought stuff. Since then, this guy has been bushelging it. And in 2021, he ran into a little problem down in Florida. You see, he was talking to an undercover police officer who was disguising themselves as a young teenage girl. Okay. Now, Carl, how do you feel about this? You feel this as entrapment? Sometimes.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah, I think the way they do. I mean, I hate it when it's just like vigil. Gillante justice kind of stuff. If it's a police officer and they actually have a reason to do it, maybe I could see why they would do that. Yeah. Now, Bowling, he was 26 years old at the time. He first contacted this decoy in early April through a program called Ad Chat, which I guess
Starting point is 00:10:10 is a messaging platform. Okay. Now, according to the police, the conversations turned very sexual in nature within the first 24 hours and intensified quickly to that they described Daniel Bowling as a dangerous predator. They were a little concerned about this guy. And how old was this girl supposed to be? 15. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Now, according to his social media on May 5th, he was playing pre-qualifying rounds for the U.S. Open at the Orange Tree Golf Club just southwest of Orlando. During the qualifying game, he placed in the Tide for 35. Tied for 35th did not qualify him. So I guess he was a little bummed out because on the 6th, he gets arrested when he tries to meet up with this deal. Well, he had some free time. He had some free time now, so he wanted to get a little pussy. And he invites this girl to meet him, and he shows up, and it is the police, and he's arrested
Starting point is 00:11:03 rather quickly. He was charged with obscene communication, traveling to meet with the minor. Obscene communication? Yeah, there's videos. There's videos to minor. Yeah. All right. Attempted lewd and lascivious molestation.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Now, here's the problem, Carl. I cannot find anything past this arrest. Yeah, I know. I'm ready to do a similar issue. So I don't know what this guy's consequences are, but I do know that he got owned pretty hard by the Orlando Police. And I loved this on Twitter at Orlando Police. This is what they wrote. Arrested with his mugshot, a professional golfer was arrested today by our crimes against children detective.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Daniel Bowling was taken into custody. He attempted to meet a decoy posing as a 15-year-old girl. Bowling is a top 100 PGA golfer. they follow that with the correction since we first tweeted about this arrest we've received information that Mr. Bowling is not in the PGA tour Stop 100
Starting point is 00:11:59 Whoops So they're just like we got to fact check this Yeah Yeah Now that's a bummer Yeah so the problem is Carl I don't know what happened to him here And like that's really hard to make him my creep
Starting point is 00:12:13 You know especially because I don't know if he was found guilty Yeah vote for Carl He's just accused of this you know Right yeah vote for Carl Yeah but uh Oh, so sending dick pics to a police officer, is that really a crime? Come on. One more thing, sir. I remember what he did now.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Oh, okay. I'm going to jack it where the sun always shines. He's going to spread the word now. I need to ease my mind. Then plan them apple seeds and while the apples grow, I'm going to go out jacking it in. Askello County, Florida. Okay. You see, Carl, he may have been arrested in 2021 for, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:50 you know, trying to talk to this 15-year-old girl sending this videos. These charges are very, very serious. But let me tell you what I know he did. In 2018, he was caught masturbating in his hotel room and Osceola County, Florida. Again, doesn't sound too bad. Is that illegal? Because, holy shit. The problem was he was doing it in front of the open windows while staring at children playing in the pool.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Oh. Oh. okay that's a problem oh boy yeah now he was caught doing this when parents were horrified looked up and saw this man standing there jerking off in the window
Starting point is 00:13:31 looking at their children in the pool and he was arrested for indecent exposure cannabis possession and drug paraphernalia but he eventually pled guilty to only two charges of indecent exposure and he struck a plea deal with the court it was handed probation only so this guy has already jacked
Starting point is 00:13:48 from an open window looking at children and that he's talking to three years later even though he was on probation for the first thing talking to young teenage girls online that's my creep Daniel Bowling he's a piece of shit in my opinion we don't know the ages of these girls in the pool they could have been 18, 19 years old
Starting point is 00:14:07 you are correct but it says children yeah yeah and 18 or 19 year olds are teens in most of these articles yeah yeah all right well he sounds like he's kind of creepy there Vinny but let me introduce you to Travis Watkins. Now, when you think of the great golfers over the years, obviously Tiger Woods, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicholas, and of course, Travis Watkins.
Starting point is 00:14:28 No. We've all heard his name. No. We all celebrate him. Who? For all of his feats in the PGA. No. The only person who's celebrated for the feats around here are you.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Now, Travis is from Texas, and he's hanging out at this restaurant called Tarelli's in Dallas. and he's getting a little drunk. He's putting a few back. And he starts getting a little angry with the staff and threatening them with violence. As one does. Yeah, I mean, maybe they weren't pouring drinks fast enough. I mean, we've all been there. Again, I said this, most of these golfers are just drunk douchebags.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Correct. And this is one of them. So they decided to call the police. And when the police show up, they find Watkins drunk and rambling. and so they take him into custody without incident and they head down to the city detention center. Now this is where things escalate. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:15:24 This is where the problem happens. So he didn't go quietly as what you're trying to tell me. Oh, he did at first, but then they're at the detention center. And while the officers are processing Watkins, he allegedly kicked one of the officers so hard it tore a ligament, dislocating her kneecap. And then he spit on the other cop. So there's a woman officer
Starting point is 00:15:46 He kicked so hard She had to have Surgery You don't know that I do know that She'd have surgery to repair You don't know how weak her knee was She had to have surgery to repair her knee
Starting point is 00:15:57 Her kneecap That he kicked off of her She might have already needed surgery And just found this opportunity To get the work Oh yeah I know Oh goes one of kneecap surgery
Starting point is 00:16:07 I know You're probably right Benny That makes sense Probably had bad legs to begin with Not only did he do this But he showed no remorse and began to laugh like the Joker in a mocking manner after kicking her kneecap off.
Starting point is 00:16:21 So after that violent exchange, they were able to restrain him and carry him from the detention center into a squad car and then to the Lou Starritt jail where he'll be spending the next few days. I would like to point out one thing that I have learned recently.
Starting point is 00:16:37 What's that, buddy? When you kick somebody in the knee like that, that's called a leg kick. That is a leg kick. Very good. Look at me. Look at us growing. as human beings. I'm learning. Before your very
Starting point is 00:16:46 eyes, everybody. Wapio says he swept the leg and Carl has a problem with that vote for Vinny. I couldn't agree more. All right. All right, everyone. That's my creep. Travis Watkins got drug and kicked a cop and spit on another cop. A drunk belligerent guy
Starting point is 00:17:04 versus a guy who's jerking it to children in a swimming pool in an open window. I don't appreciate your recaps of any. Why? We don't need it. We already heard your story. We got it. Fine. We get it. We know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Fine. Fine. I get it. I got it. I know what's good. I'm going to keep this on the board, though. One more thing, sir. I almost forgot.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I'm going to need that in the future, I think. Nice. All right, Carl. So I believe this is time for WATC, yeah? It is. It's time for who are these creepos. Who are these? Creepos.
Starting point is 00:17:35 This is the segment on the show that we do every single week where we dissect another true crime podcast because we declare that we are the greatest true crime podcast. But we don't want to just say that and not prove it. And also, we're quite petty. So the way that we prove it is by reviewing other true crime podcasts, one at a time. And that really shows the people. And I get a lot of notes from people saying, I didn't realize you guys were the best true crime show until who are these creepos. And I think that it's obvious now to everyone. I mean, I assume they all know we're pretty good.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Right. Listen, no one's debating we're top five. No one's debating that. But aren't we number one? And that's what I'm here to prove to you today. And today I present to you a podcast called MurderRific. And what's funny about this is I thought for sure it was about it was like how terrific murder is. Like that's murderific.
Starting point is 00:18:27 But on their website, if you go to MurderRific.com, right in the upper left corner it says murder plus horrific equals murderrific. So I guess it's horrific murder, not terrific murder. Okay. That's good. So I'm not going to lie to you, Pete. people, they've piqued my interest. Okay. They have my interest right now.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Murder plus horrific. You're talking to Cousin Vinny. All right. So this is hosted by Burtadette from the state of Maine. Why she needs to explain that? I do not know. But she's excited about it. And she has a Patreon.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And I happen to check out a show that was a Patreon show that was a Patreon show she decided to put out as, you know, we do that sometimes too. We want to have a little preview for people like, hey, if you sign up her a Patreon, this is the kind of content that you're going to get. And hopefully it gets some people to come over and spend a few bucks a month to check out the programming. Sure. So she starts off this show talking about how easy to support her and what you get for that. Welcome, true crime fans.
Starting point is 00:19:28 It's easy to support Murderific True Crime podcast. Go to Patreon and search for Murderific to contribute or look in our show notes for the link. Join today for monthly bonus episodes and access. to the regular podcast all ad free plus fun merch and shoutouts oh did she say shoutouts i thought she said show notes i thought i had to sign up to get show notes maybe she said shoutouts i think it was so i just heard that differently now i think it was shoutouts oh okay all right so fun merch and how shoutouts and how am i supposed to contribute am i supposed to horrifically someone to That's another way to contribute to the show.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Yeah, there's multiple ways to contribute to this show, Vinny. Okay. And I think you could do both, buddy, because, you know, I see how you guys are killing it on subreddit surfing with the superchats. So you got enough money bouncing around over there. We read the super chats on subreddit surfing, Carl. I read superchats too. Who are these socials Thursdays at 6? I mean, who are these podcasts YouTube channel?
Starting point is 00:20:31 I will read your super chats. Anyway. Do you ever stop who are these podcasts to throw out a plug for the creep off like that? You ever stop in the middle of who are these podcasts? I actually did recently. Okay. I actually did recently. I think you know that.
Starting point is 00:20:42 It was during the first segment of the show. But, Vinny, I did go ahead and look it up. And she has 18 people supporting her on Patreon. Oh. Now, that's nice of them. When you have 18 people supporting you, and the lowest tier is two bucks. She comes from a big family then? Probably, because listen to what she writes on her Patreon page.
Starting point is 00:21:04 It says, heads up from here and out, 10% of monthly Patreon proceeds. We'll go to domestic violence organizations. The money will go to this organization listed below. Unsubscribe. If that changes, I'll let you know. Family Violence Project.org is where 10%. So she's making, let's say, 40 bucks. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Maybe it's 45 bucks. Okay. So $4.50 is going to stop domestic violence. So I don't even know we're going to have domestic violence anymore after this. I think it's probably solved. For $4.50, you can't even buy a stake to put on their eye. Like, there's nothing you can do. Good point.
Starting point is 00:21:41 That's not helpful. That's a good point. I think I've talked about this before, but, like, when Katrina happened and there's like these things where everybody wants to donate to charity and help these poor people out who suffer through a storm and lost their house and stuff. Sure. These local bands would always put on these shows, and there's this place called Moni's Crown. You can fit like maybe 40 people in there.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I hope Moni's Crown burns down. I hate that place. They constantly try to cram comedy shows in there. Oh, do they really? There's room for seven people in the main room? It's a small room. They're not even chairs in there. They're like weird little lumps of wood that are like stools.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It's terrible. It's not great. And it's so funny because these bands would put on these shows with like five metal bands. And it's like, all proceeds go to support Katrina or the fucking Warren Ukraine or whatever the fuck they're doing. It's like, this is not going to sell up anything, guys. Just keep the 40 bucks you made and pay yourself on the back. Please. Good audio.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So anyway, this woman thinks that she's going to. Apparently, and domestic violence. All right. So she brings out a guest on this episode. Really, 10%. 10%. What do you think the 3650 goes to? You think the 3650 goes to cat food?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Because I heard that lady's voice. That's what I'm guessing, cat food. 100%. Now, she brings on this guest, Casey. And I just want to point out the chemistry these two have. This is a good podcasting duel right here. My guest today is Casey. Howdy, folks.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And I was just thinking about how we first met. I used to call you Casey Kins. Those were the days where Burn idolized me. I didn't idolize you ever. I was mildly fond of you, though. Mildly fond. That's probably correct. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:23:24 Pretty good stuff, huh? You're ripping it, I can tell. You're like, okay, what happens to Knox Carl? That guy, Casey, sounds like the kind of dude who gets hard watching fire burn things. I do not like that voice. Interesting description. That is not a good voice. Well, I'm not a huge fan of Burns' voice either.
Starting point is 00:23:41 She's got a little vocal fry going, and I'll give you an example of that right here. By the way, this is unedited, und doctored audio. Now I'm about to play for you. His name was John Cooey, age 46. He had been arrested 24 times in the last 30 years for things like theft, disorderly intoxication, DUI, fraud, indecent exposure. What the fuck? That voice is horrible. Why are you doing a podcast?
Starting point is 00:24:14 Bernadette. They threw Bernadette out of the swamp. Jesus. Stop it already. That's not great content either. No, it's really not great, Benny. I'll be real honest with you. This content was tough to get through.
Starting point is 00:24:27 So are you saying that these people aren't going to meet us in the top five? I don't think so, buddy. I don't think so because this guy Casey breaks a rule right out of the gate. and he admits it, but it doesn't stop him. I recently read in some Facebook groups that you're not supposed to announce the alcohol that you're drinking. You know, some people just hate that. But I do want to share today that I'm drinking this awesome 2000, probably 18 vintage of vendage. Was that $5?
Starting point is 00:25:02 It was eight for a liter and a half. Wow. Case doesn't play by the rules, man. I don't care I don't care I like that he said Fuck you Casey I saw on Facebook
Starting point is 00:25:14 People don't watch you talking about What you're drinking Yeah they also don't watch you drinking Yeah It's the other thing too Yeah I mean We got frog lady And the drunk
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah The creepy voice Awesome show I mean it's basically 50% of all true crime podcast is this exact makeup Yeah You know I'm assuming Casey's gay
Starting point is 00:25:30 Because it's usually A girl with an annoying voice And a gay guy Yeah Is how true crime podcast work You know We thought about
Starting point is 00:25:37 adopting that and Carl was just going to pound white claws during the show and it was to be called White Claw Law. Yes. With Carl and Vinny. Yes, correct. And then I was like, I don't know, I like high noon's better and kind of changed the whole trajectory of our show. Yeah, we just went with the creep off instead. Yes, correct. Yeah, and we decided not
Starting point is 00:25:53 to do the alcohol thing. But you know, I sometimes wonder, what our show would be better if we were both ragingly drunk and slurring our words? Hey, I hear there's an open time slot. Wednesday's at 8 p.m. Maybe we could do a show. No, there isn't. Oh, there's not. Oh, okay. I thought that was an open time slot on the network.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Which network? This network. The creep off network? Yeah, the creep off network. We don't have a network, Carl. No, let's just start making networks. You want to do that? That'd be fun.
Starting point is 00:26:18 No. Other people do that. Yeah. We're better than that. It's funny, though. We're better than that. I know. I've proven that time and time again.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Now, Minnie, one thing that we don't do on this show, and maybe we should, is trigger warnings. Because people tune into true crime podcasts thinking it's all going to be safe content. We start with the little disclaimer at the beginning. It's true. That's true. But we need something like this. This case is about a child murder and the details are pretty sickening. It did kill me to research this one.
Starting point is 00:26:49 So you have been warned. Oh, well, listen, if kids are getting killed, well, then I have to tap out. I mean, that's just too murderific for me. I feel like that's being a little bit pearl clutchy, ma'am. A little bit. Yeah. It's like, we're listening to a true crime show. We know.
Starting point is 00:27:06 We know something bad's going to happen. Let's put it that way. Should we come up with a new disclaimer at the beginning where we're just like, You're going to get triggered, motherfuckers? That's not a bad idea. Yeah. And then like have like a sound of a gun. Like we're clocking a gun.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Then you hear children getting mowed down like something like that to let people know it's going to be bad. You know what? Maybe we should do the trigger hoarding after we do the horrific shit. Be like, by the way, should have told you this before that. creep off disclaimer contest send in your creepoff disclaimers I love it if someone can tell Matthew Lewinsky
Starting point is 00:27:41 the next letter that he sends could be a disclaimer contest I'm dead serious if you if you send me the winner of this I'll give you a supercast subscription I don't give those out very often but I'll give you what if you give me the best
Starting point is 00:27:54 new creep off disclaimer I love it I think that's a good idea okay all right I had a wheel of consequence idea too oh what's that? Yeah simple piazza jersey that's hilarious I love it And since you're a Cubs fan
Starting point is 00:28:12 You got to get the Mets one Yeah And since I like the Padres I'd have to get the Dodgers one Which is extra Oh yeah Yeah, okay, I get it Since you're interrupting me
Starting point is 00:28:22 I might as well just pull up this Super chat from Dayla, two bucks And hashtag never vote for Vinnie Yes, I follow that hashtag regularly On all the socials he follows me and unfollows me on Twitter every day it's weird yeah all right getting back to this podcast so it's about a nine-year-old girl jessica who was abducted from her home raped over and over again over a weekend and then murdered and um she tells us a little bit about
Starting point is 00:28:52 jessica some things that we need to know about this child jessica was a happy child who loved holidays she loved holidays you ever described someone as someone who loved holidays i've never heard that description before. What a horrific personality trait. Yeah, she hangs out like at the Hallmark store for hours. She just, she loves holidays so much. Her favorites are actually Star Wars Day and talk like a pirate day. Our two favorite holidays. Yeah. No wonder it didn't end well for little Jessica. What the fuck is that? She loved holidays. She enjoyed celebrating things, did she? That's what that is. Celebrating is fun. Yeah. People like holidays, Christmas, Thanksgiving. Anything with a big meal with family where gifts are exchanged. Yeah, kids seem to like
Starting point is 00:29:33 And he brings it right back to food again. Right back to food. Can you smell my sandwich from over there? Yes. Smells good, doesn't it? Yes. Was that turkey? Yeah, it is turkey.
Starting point is 00:29:42 And I got the whole wheat bread that they make there. Very good. Fucker. All right. Now, I actually had something very in common with Jessica because she's You're going to be raped to death too? Possibly. But before that, she actually has the exact same interests that I do.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I couldn't believe it. She loved stuffed animals, going to church, and she did really well in school. Holy shit! We're like the same person, her and I. Did you do well in school, Carl? I did very well in school, yes. Oh, Jesus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I had six college credits for calculus before I ever went to college. And look at what I'm doing with it now, Vinny. Laughing at jerks. Cool, cool. Laughing at jerks. Cool brag. Is what I'm doing. But, I mean, come on, stuffed animals.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Church. I mean, this is cool shit that this girl said to. Yep. I totally get it. What could possibly go wrong here? Yeah, what could possibly go wrong? Now, I tune in to this show, murderific for the true crime, but I stay for the commentary. Mark's mom immediately called 911, which you would do. Like, if your kid was missing, I don't even know how much I'd look around. I would just call the police. I'd be so scared. I couldn't even imagine. Yeah. So apparently when your child is missing, calling the police is pretty normal to do. I'd be so scared. I would call 911 too.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Would you? Did you? Do you remember that show we reviewed for WATP where it was like the adults trying to sound like kids? Yes. I feel like that's what we just heard there. Listen to those voices again. Ugh. I just took it off the board. Oh, good. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:31:19 But you people at home can rewind 15 seconds and hear it again. Or don't. Or don't. Live your life. So she has a hard time coming up with the right word here. he's like the bottom of the bottom the lowest of the low he's a garbage man I can't even think of a word for him he's garbage he's a leech to society yeah the word is pedophile is the word that you were looking for there is a word for that yeah when you rape children it's called a pedophile but I like that she calls him a garbage man like well that actually is a thing like if you're her garbage man you gotta look at her sideways from now like what the fuck what the fuck what did I never do to you I work for the city bitch yeah I clean up your garbage. I never complained. You don't have you
Starting point is 00:32:01 give me a president. Christmas time? What's wrong with? What's going on here? I have a bit of a leech. I have a bit of a leech. Give me that. All right. And then this is the last clip I have here, and I just have a question about this. Oh, good. As he became addicted to crack cocaine, his crimes became more
Starting point is 00:32:19 like sexually assaulting young children. How did they become more like sexually assaulting children? What is he fucking midgets? That's even more like sexually assaulting children. Well, see, what happened was, when he first started off, he was just straight up assaulting children, like punching them in the face and kicking them. And then he just started grabbing
Starting point is 00:32:35 dicks and finger in holes. Okay, it became more like that. Like, at first he had a boner. Sure. And then he, yeah, okay, I get it. It started off just pure violence that turned into love. And then he was coping to feel. I get it. Like Charles Barry. So that's that's my presentation
Starting point is 00:32:53 for you today. Oh, murderific sucks. So, but I gotta read more from her Patreon page. This always bothers me for some reason when people talk about why should you donate to my show? And they want to talk about how much work they put into their show
Starting point is 00:33:08 and how they deserve to be paid because of all the work they do. So it says, welcome murderific true crime fans. Thank you for your interest in helping to support my true crime podcast. Please consider being our patron and becoming part of the murderific podcast family.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Each episode takes many hours of research, writing, editing, and narration. Right now the show is going by my sheer love of the true crime genre. Podcasts are expensive to create with website costs, equipment costs, editing costs, et cetera. Editing costs.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Are podcasts expensive to create? I don't think they are at all. I think when I first started a podcasting, all I had to do was buy a microphone. A USB microphone. You just had the one for everyone when you started. That's true. And it was fine.
Starting point is 00:33:51 That's true. Talk about a fucking American success story. It really was. Not a great setup where we've first time to do with the show over at my basement. No, but here we are. Started from the bottom now we're here. That's right.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Why should you become a patron of murderific? Well, the knowledge that you are helping a small podcast grow and become bigger and better. Why would I care about that? The knowledge. You're not selling me on this. I go around and say, hey, listen, you all better look at me different. I'm helping a small podcast get a little bit better. I didn't even like the show.
Starting point is 00:34:24 I'm just giving her money so that she can someday get better. Like, how about this for a reason to support? the show you like the show and you want to hear bonus episodes not not like hey i know this sucks but if you give me some money maybe i'll get better at some point it's such a bad fucking approach like i know it's it's it's it's almost the same approach as when people do their first episode of their show and they go don't judge me it's just the first episode bitch the first episode better be good yeah you don't have to put it out if it's not good that was the thing we were doing that, um, I had Ray DeVito on my show this past week on WATP, and we were checking
Starting point is 00:34:58 out this improv show. And, uh, it was like, they got this big write up in the Detroit Free Press and, you know, there's all these people talking about it. And their very first episode was the worst thing you've ever seen. It's like, don't start with the worst possible episode. It's the people are going to check out. Dummies. All right. So. Trevor, Trevor Zero says for $4.99. Thank you, Trevor Zero. My favorite podcast are the ones where the host sound like their deep-throating glass shards. Well, then, this might be the show for you then. Murder-Rific podcast. Thank you, Alex, for turning me on to that one. All right. Well, Carl, I guess that means it's time for voicemails.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yes. And those are brought to you by the City of Syracuse. The Creep-off voicemail segment is brought to by the City of Syracuse. Today, the Syracuse honors the great Jim Brown. To the stay, we still have no idea how he managed to beat out all those white running backs. See you. Holy shit, McBride. Holy shit, McBride. A lot of people had the same note, and that note is that I'm stupid.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Vinnie, in the Bart story, you said the guy was wearing a baklava. The word is balaclava. A baklava is a dessert. You fat fuck. Hey, Vinnie, I got a voicemail. Yeah. Zinny, the word you're looking for is balaclava. Falklava is a Middle Eastern dessert.
Starting point is 00:36:30 You fat. I guess a lot of people had the exact same thought. That's hilarious. And I don't blame them. I'm a dumb idiot. That's fine. Uh, da-da-da. Listen, we're Americans.
Starting point is 00:36:45 We don't have to know anything about anything. It's great. Works out well for us. Okay. Well, they didn't hear the sound on mine. So, do you got any more? I do. I have one more over here. Mr. Magenta called into the show. Why don't you have sound on your voicemail? I don't know. That's a bummer.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I'm going to get a fix, though, right now. I got it covered. Go ahead. And this is Mr. Magenta, and this is for the creep-off and Ginny. So I've also been in the latest WATP, and Carl says, oh, we got a new letter from podcast Hitman. I'm going to read at the end of the episode. And I thought, oh, that was funny. That's funny, because it seems like something he'd say for the creep off. And then at the end of the episode, he says, ah, we're running late. I'm not going to do it. I'll read it next time. I really hope he did that because Vinny was just texting him furiously
Starting point is 00:37:29 saying, say it for the creep off, you club-butted motherfucker. All right. Thank you. Fuck you. Bye. Almost. You almost got that. You know, right. But he was very unhappy that I was going to read that WTP. I will say this. I was. And I voiced my displeasure to you. I did not text you about it. True. Because I would never listen to your show live. I hope this will come through for everybody what an asshole what a fucking asshole Carl did you leave enough tithing or do you just put 20 bucks in there it's 10% of your annual income so divide that by 12 that's how much you should have given maybe I'll even be generous divide by four for the week that you went Carl if you didn't do it you have to go back and give the right amount of money or Jesus will not accept your soul
Starting point is 00:38:13 into heaven also did you take communion because if you did and you're not not baptized, then you're a heretic, and you're going to burn in hell. So, you know, I hope you didn't do that, Carl. Fuck, dude. Fun story. Fun story. I believe taking communion is a Catholic thing. This was not a Catholic church.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Sure. But I am baptized. I am baptized Catholic. So there's that. I don't know why. Gross. My parents were not Catholics, but for some reason I was... By the way, your parents are recommended to be...
Starting point is 00:38:48 friends with me on Facebook the other day. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Facebook algorithm really knows it's stuff. Yeah. It's good stuff. I have some thoughts on your father's Facebook page. Maybe would you like to book me on who are these socials we can discuss it? Now, you might notice when I do talk about my Facebook friends and what they post on there, I don't give full names or anything. I'm not trying to out anyone specifically. It sounds like you're trying to out someone. So I'm going to say no to that.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Fair enough. Fair enough. Last one I got. It's a downbeat, retard, not the upbeat. You clap on the downbeat, you fucking, you need more band practice. You need more of that. If you're clapping on the up, fuck you, you idiot. The one you don't sing in your songs. Another one thing has to do with the other. I thought you're supposed to clap on the upbeat.
Starting point is 00:39:40 How would I know? All right. How the fuck would I know? Do I pretend to be a musician like you? Wow. Fighting words, Benny. No, I'm saying you are a musician. I don't pretend to be a musician like you.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I'm pretending to be a musician. Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. So what the fuck? Mani Muskitz, $2 super sticker. What's up, Mani? He says Vinnie's going to get the tax deduction on that tithe, by the way. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Yay, superchats. How much did you put in there? How much did you give those shysters? I think I gave him 12 bucks. I had a five, like seven ones. I shoved in there. Yeah, that seems like an excessive amount of money. 10%.
Starting point is 00:40:21 That's what they ask for, dude. Is that what they ask for now? 10% of your income. Jeez, Louise. Gross, not net, people. Gross, not that. In the words of Reverend Lovejoy. Garley, you ready for a scum parade?
Starting point is 00:40:34 Yeah. All right. Let's do a scum parade. Skull parade. Take me on a raid of these fuck charades that these creeps have made. Scum parade. Vinny and Carl Gonna tell you about some fuck shit
Starting point is 00:40:51 Scum parade Like stories of a kid Fuck by his mom or dad Soaking up the blood of a cat Scum parade I feel like we've talked a lot about Florida today We have So let's start in Toronto
Starting point is 00:41:11 Okay An exotic pet owner was caught on camera Assaulting a man with a living python in a bizarre street fight. See, they really need to ban assault snakes in Canada. This is getting too out of control right now. Completely agreed. The attacker, who was identified by the police as 45-year-old Laranello Avila
Starting point is 00:41:32 was arrested when stunned passers-by alerted the police of the commotion near Little Italy and Toronto. It is little tiny Italy up there. But a video went viral online showing the moments before the police officers broke up the fight in the middle of the street. Now, I have the video, Carl. Would you like to watch it with me? Yeah, I haven't seen this video. This reminds you of, like, the crazy cat lady in the Simpsons. You're just, like, chucking cats and everybody.
Starting point is 00:41:54 This guy's just throwing snakes. All right. That's pretty fun. Here we go. No sound on this. Okay. But, yeah, the guy's got the snake, and he's, like, he's taunting it with the fucking snake.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Yeah, he was, like, throw to that dude's Jordans. And now the snake's just on the ground, just sit there. Like, they're stepping on it. Oh, my God. Oh! Yeah. What the fuck! It's just insane.
Starting point is 00:42:23 The man is just flailing at him and the other guy is like backing up. And I can't imagine. Ah, he's coming back for more. Jesus. He's still going. They're still going. He's got the snake in his hand and the snake is just kind of dealing with it the way a snake does. It just flops around.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Yeah, I don't know what the snake could possibly do. Oh, there's back. Now the guy. Oh. So the guy with the bag tried to attack him. I don't attack a man with a snake and he's ready to use it. Yeah. Oh, he's not afraid to use this thing.
Starting point is 00:42:51 That's a pet, too. Yeah. Fucking Canada. So the cops end up rolling up on these guys. But, uh, isn't that insane? That's insane. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:06 The, uh, the Toronto police said they received a call about a man threatening people with a with a python on Dundas Street, which is pretty populated area downtown. Sure. I went to stole police media that the two men were arguing back and forth while the victim warned passers by that Avelia was holding a python. So this guy was out there like, hey, man, I'm trying to medicine scare people with my python. Stop blowing out my spot. And it evolved into what we just saw, Carl. Oh, yeah, he had a python.
Starting point is 00:43:31 He was ready to use it, for sure. Yeah. Now, this is... Open carry python. Yeah, this guy was charged with animal cruelty. Good. And he has been locked up, which I think is absolutely correct. I'm not a big fan of snakes, but I don't think.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I think they should be used as weapons. Agreed. I don't use it as a whip. I had never felt sorry for a snake in my life until that. Until that, yeah. I've watched people chop their heads off with shovels. I've seen all sorts of stuff, and I have never felt bad until this asshole. This Canadian dickhead.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Carl, let's move on to Australia today, shall we? And the snake doesn't need this guy's help. The snake's like, listen, I can bite this asshole if you want me to. You don't have to throw me at them. Just put me down. I'll crawl up his leg and I'll start squeezing. This is what I do. It's not a problem.
Starting point is 00:44:14 We're a team here. Yeah, right. All right, Carl, Australia. Do you ever keep in touch with anyone from your graduating class? Sure, yeah. I have friends. What's that like? It's neat.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Victoria Police are investigating after multiple women came forward to report that they had received letters containing handwritten messages and used condoms. And that's not a good way to pick up women? No. Noted. No, if you want to do the old U.S. condom trick. You got to throw them at their front door. Got it. Okay. So they see you the next day when they go to work.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Nice. The letters have been mailed to residential addresses across Melbourne southeastern and eastern suburbs. More than 65 female victims who attended Kilbrada College and Mentone have come forward so far many have received multiple letters. The first incident was reported to police on March 20th with the most recent occurring last Monday, as far as I know. Now, here's the interesting part all of these 65 women who received this letter they all graduated in the year 1999 yeah they're all in the same class so vinnie could you imagine being the girl who doesn't get the used condom in the mail like you see this story and you're like well what's it's wrong
Starting point is 00:45:33 with me you're checking the mailbox every day just hoping that there's a gooey used condom in there so you could feel pretty feel good about yourself nope it's just more of those uh just More letters from the cable company. Yep. Political ads. No use condom. What a bummer. No use condom.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I'm never going to use condom in the mail. I guess I'm not hot enough. Old fatty franny over there gets nothing. Some dude in Australia is jerking off into condoms and mailing them to women he graduated with, Carl. I would think that after you come, you're like, oh, this was a dumb idea. I'm not going to do this. No. This motherfucker's buying a stamp.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah. No, I know he's. He's committed. I'd love to read those letters. My question is this. Like, do you think he dropped him off in bulk? Hmm. Do you think, like, he, I mean, there's 65 of them.
Starting point is 00:46:23 That's 65 loads. Well, and some of them got multiple ones, so it's more than 65. Ah. That's a, that's a hard day right there. What a... He's going to be sore. He's going to be sore in the morning. You think the girl who got a bunch of them was like, gives one to old fat Franny.
Starting point is 00:46:37 He's like, here you go, so you don't feel bad. Yeah, like, crosses out her name and writes Franny on it and puts it in the mail. Here you go, Franny. You got one. I chew, chew, choose you. And there's a picture of a train. It's a pretty good gag. Yeah, he wants to run a train on me.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Here you go. Oh, God. Dude, at least he's using protection. This guy's creepier than podcast Hitman. This is a creepier letter than what podcast Hitman said your wife. Well, possibly. I don't think you can get condoms in jail. So maybe that's the only reason why.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Oh, yeah. You can't get pregnant either. Right. So, there you go. Now, cops are trying to figure this out. If anybody has any information, please contact Australian crime stoppers. Who gives the fuck? Who the fuck would have information?
Starting point is 00:47:22 Okay, whatever. My next stornay, but jerks off a lot. Yeah, right. He's always buying condens. I never see girls show up to his house. This guy's constantly mailing letters. It's dumb. Yeah, I mean, you can tell somebody's a creep if they're actually going to the post office and dropping off letters.
Starting point is 00:47:38 True. There's something going on there. Those people should be questioned. Should be brought him for questioning. Hey, Carl. Yes, sir. Let's keep up with tradition here. Creepiest employment for a man?
Starting point is 00:47:49 I would say a nurse. I think you're correct. A Munich court has sentenced a 27-year-old nurse to life in prison for murdering two patients by deliberately administering unprescribed drugs so he could be, quote, left in peace. Who says Germans aren't funny? They're fucking efficient. That's funny. The nurse identified only as Mario J. was also found guilty on six counts of attempted murder,
Starting point is 00:48:15 a spokesperson for the Munich District Court in Southern Germany said on Monday. During his trial, Mario G. admitted to injecting patients with sedatives and other drunk cocktails while working in the recovery room at the Munich Hospital. I wanted to be left in peace, he told the court. Yeah, like, these people are in there. I know you're in pain, but moaning over and over again is not helping anyone. Quiet the fuck down and leave these poor nurses alone. Yeah, we know it.
Starting point is 00:48:42 hurts. Yeah, I know. I know you're in pain. It's why you're in the hospital. Shut up. We get it. That's the busiest part of the hospital, I would imagine. The recovery room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People who just got out of surgeries and shit. You got to keep an eye on them, make sure their levels are, you got to be checking their shit constantly. Sure. If they're awake or not awake. Wait a second, Vinnie. You sound like a male nurse. Is there something I don't know about you? Oh, he's been found out. We figured it out. I got to go, you guys. We are creep. We are creep. after all. There's the proof we needed. I'd rather be caught with a copy of the last Jedi
Starting point is 00:49:17 than a nursing diploma. Carl. That's pretty funny. Thank you. Ed seen. All right. According to the prosecutors, he administered the drugs
Starting point is 00:49:29 because he wanted to be left alone during his shift when he was often hungover. Oh, okay. Now I get it. Yeah. Because, listen, there are many times that I've been hung over at work and I want to inject Vinny with seven of them.
Starting point is 00:49:41 A lot of Mondays that I'm here And I'm like, would this guy just shut the fuck up? Can I just strangle him or murder him somehow? He just won't stop talking. You just want to make the murderific podcast. That would be a nice bonus. No, it wouldn't. So two patients died as a result of Mario G's actions.
Starting point is 00:50:03 One was 80, the other one was 89. The case recalled, uh, well, whatever. Either way, this guy, he is, uh, sentenced to life in prison. He just was hung over and decided to fucking straight up murder your grandparents. Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch. Why do they even hire men to that job?
Starting point is 00:50:23 They're not nurturers. Men are not nurturers. That is correct. They get annoyed. They get annoyed very easily. You know how often this guy was tired of just saying, walk it off? Just fucking mouthy people.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Now, Carl, let's end the scum parade. The best way we know how. From Germany to Florida. Carl Someone asks if we're going to be talking about producer Joe A different person in Florida By the way, I didn't watch it But E. Rock sent me a note
Starting point is 00:51:22 That on Kumi's Cox yesterday, Chan Ziamak was checking out The Isotovs playing Black Betty at this very club And I guess was digging it I think Chan and our buddies now Oh, great Whichever way the fucking wind blows with you people I knew you'd be excited for me.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Dude, you know how much much I don't give a fuck. Carl, do you ever have ever had a cleaning person? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I love cleaning people. Yeah, they're great. Because, you know, honestly, Vinnie, I like making a mess. I don't want to clean it up.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I want somebody else to take care of it for me. The real heroes of the world. Anybody who's willing to clean up my mess? Yes. They're great. Now, we're going to... You know what they won't do cleaning people? We'll not wipe your ass.
Starting point is 00:52:03 No matter how much how nicely you ask. Yeah. You can get down on all fours and wave it at them. They're not going to do anything. Yeah. Even if you follow around the house. with your butt sticking out, they still won't do it. With your pants around your knees, just wiggling, it ain't going to happen.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Well, let's tell you about another thing that they won't do, Carl. Here's a great story for you. A housekeeper entered a deadly site Wednesday afternoon in Naples, Florida. According to the police and the Colliers County Sheriff's Office around 2.30 p.m., a maid was called by one of her clients, Anthony Michael Corrado, and asked her to come on over and clean up a, quote, real mess at his grandparents home. When she arrived to the house She in the suburb of Golden Gate Estate
Starting point is 00:52:48 She noticed Corrado 34 was covered in blood The woman went into the bedroom And heard heavy breathing And saw a large blue tarp on the floor And something moving underneath She began to unwrap the tarp And found Carrado's grandmother
Starting point is 00:53:04 With a plastic bag over her head When she attempted to remove the bag Carrado said, hey, stop it. Yeah. You're going to get blood everywhere. What are you doing? I'm not making it messier. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I'm going to take that out of your pay if you ruin the rug. Carrato then told the woman to help her get rid of his grandmother's body before his grandfather got home from the grocery store. And I also need you to disable the cameras while you do it. This is what he tells the cleaning lady. Yeah, I mean, there are some messes that you make that you do have to clean up yourself. There are some things you can't ask for others to help you with. this would be one of murdering your grandma would be one of them now the housekeeper insisted we call 911 but carrato who has a long rap she told her no because he quote didn't want to go back to
Starting point is 00:53:49 prison yeah if you call the police i'll get in trouble what are you thinking i told you to why do you think i told you to turn the cameras what do we pay you for yeah what's going on here this lady's not getting it it's not figuring out what's going on now this woman is terrified this guy's covered in blood there's a dead there's a dead lady sitting there yeah um almost dead lady, and she uses her brain and figures out a great way to get out of this because this guy is so completely insane. He legitimately thinks she's going to clean it up. She says, okay, I'll tell you what I'll do. I got a bunch of cleaning products in my car. Let me go out there and grab them. I'll grab the old dust buster.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah, yeah. Well, I didn't realize I was going to need bleach for this job. I'll be right back. Mr. Clee? Mr. Clee? Yep. I mean, she goes out to her car, jumps to the car, jumps to the car, peels out of the driveway, flags down cops, the cops show up at the house, and Carrotto is arrested. Obviously, he's facing second-degree murder charges and aggravated battery of a person over 65. Yeah, she's dead.
Starting point is 00:54:45 She was 82. By the time the cops got there, she was found dead. The 74-year-old grandfather, who had returned from the store, was, quote, said she was still alive and wrapped in a blanket, the report said. Oh, wait, that's right. The 74-year-old grandfather, who had returned from the store, store was still alive and wrapped in a blanket.
Starting point is 00:55:04 The second victim also had injuries consistent with bloodhead trauma was taken by helicopter to the Gulf Coast medical. Yeah, so the cleaning lady didn't help him in time. And then the thing he didn't want to have happen, happens. Yeah, so grandpa's got to fucking take a shot to the habit. Grandpa shows up and, you know, he's going to be like, hey, where's my wife?
Starting point is 00:55:20 Because they're always asking questions like that if you have grandparents, you know what I mean? And he's like, I don't know where she is, but it's fine. Don't worry about it. And eventually, he had to fucking beat the crap out of him, too, because he was probably going to snitch on him. these people and it's funny too because in the report it talks about what lovely grandparents these people are yeah he's a piece of shit just once i would love for that the story to be like and people say these people are kind of assholes and kind of deserved it so no one's really too upset about it you know just one time i'd like to read that it's just pretty shocking that all the good people are the ones who are getting murdered although i will say now that i think about it because we're going to pivot to podcast hitman uh matthew lewinski's girlfriend, Jerry, I didn't see a single person say that they knew her or that she was a good
Starting point is 00:56:08 person or they liked her. And I read every news report I could on that thing. And not a single person was like, and that poor woman. Someone sent me her Facebook page. I looked at her Facebook page. Pictures of her as a kid and stuff. It's really like, wait, what? Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, I'll send it to you. Because, so she, she's not a trans person? Don't know. Well, I mean, the pictures do not necessarily. You saw her as a kid, though. Yeah. So as a she as a kid. Like you can't tell.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Oh. Like just kind of gender generic clothing. Interesting. I got to ask Lewinsky about that. We have a lot to talk about. We have a lot to catch up with podcasts. He's not going to tell you if she had a, she was a dude or not. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:56:49 Why not? You're his hero. Yeah. You're his hero. I am. I'm pretty cool. Yeah. You're cool.
Starting point is 00:56:56 All right. All right. I should probably read this letter. I should read that WATP though. So I said I would. Is it about WATP? Yes. Is it about this show in any way?
Starting point is 00:57:05 No. Does he confess to the murder in this letter in any way? I don't remember. I read it weeks ago. All right, we'll just read it. Go ahead. All right. So he says, now, quick backstory, if you're just joining us, you're not familiar with this.
Starting point is 00:57:18 There was a man named Matthew Winski, who lives in a suburb of Detroit in Michigan. And he was a big fan of the show. He used to be active on our Discord, and he would write to me, DM me all the time, things about Patrick Michael. Patty C C C Cups, Patty Broken Skull, Patty Pukwater, that guy. And he would send me all this information. Eventually, I had him on my show. Yep. Because he did a great job of researching what Patrick Michael was up to.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And at that time, he said, now, Carl, I'll no longer be able to help you with the show anymore. I have a long-term girlfriend, and I needed to devote my time to her. And I said, that makes zero sense, but whatever. Do what you got to do, but. Best of luck. Best of luck to you. May the wind be at your back. So that was in April.
Starting point is 00:58:02 And then fast forward to December, January, all of a sudden he's active again. And he's sending us all this information and, you know, I don't know, I assume they broke up or something. And he was able to all of a sudden get back into podcasts. Well, you assumed right. Kind of. Kind of. Yeah. So it turns out that he murdered her in their home.
Starting point is 00:58:22 You know, they live in like a townhouse. Apartment, yeah. Yeah. But an apartment, but they have a basement. Yeah. It's like a townhouse. Yeah. But the father owns, like, the little complex that this is in.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Matthew Lewinsky's dad is the owner, from what I understand. Yeah, I know he at least owns that unit. I don't know if he owns the whole thing. Oh, okay. I thought he did. But he was living, Matthew was living there on his dad's dime. And his dad, I think, was in an old folks home or something. So anyway, he murdered his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:58:49 And what's crazy about it is that he didn't know what to do with the body. So he just decided to figure it out of the future date. Yeah. He kept on, kept saying, and punt. He just kept punted to do that to do list That one never got crossed out for some reason He tried to take a little bit of her out Because apparently there were strips of flesh removed from her back
Starting point is 00:59:09 Yeah According to all the information we've seen And we still do not know what that is about Correct I assumed cannibalism but that's just me We don't know We don't know we do like speculating though And we like making stuff up
Starting point is 00:59:21 So Matthew Lewinsky Was caught because he had a Some type of breakdown And he had an incident where he was wandering around in his underwear talking nonsense and so the police brought him into custody and then when they checked the house they realized that there was a decaying body in the basement well actually a sister did matthew linsky's sister yeah wasn't what who discovered it yeah my future sister-in-law was down in the basement officer yeah this is a horrifying there was a really bad smell all the neighbors
Starting point is 00:59:51 knew something was going on but nobody knew exactly so anyway crazy story because matt lewinski he would used to do these videos from his basement like right next to where the dead body was where he would be, like, exercising and stuff. You know, on one of our bonus episodes, we watched the footage from the police that day. Yes. And the sister did not act super shocked about this. No, she was very calm when the police came and talked to her.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Tells me a lot about Matthew. Yes. She was not surprised. Yeah. All right. So he's been reaching out, and he sent a new letter. Yeah, so apparently Alex sent him a letter recently. So he responded to Alex's letter.
Starting point is 01:00:30 but mailed it to him RPO boxed at WATP. And he says, Alex, sorry, Carl. The letter you wrote and sent April 2023 is the first I've gotten from you since October 2021. So I've not been avoiding you all. I had no idea I was being written to. I think it might be case related because others haven't had an issue. Don't know what any of that means.
Starting point is 01:00:53 First and foremost, I'm absolutely devastated that Croix has quit WATP. This is more disappointing than a WATP. music episode, hashtag slutsband.com. That's a catchy song. He remembers that. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Very good. I may have to jerk off to bikini babes to get over this. I'm about to go down some flaming hot Cheetos covered honey buns in his honor. I'm about to down some flaming.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Okay, so he's going to have a snack. Yeah. He's going to jerk off and have a snack. Yeah. Prison sounds tough. I'll let Crohnell. He'll be very happy to hear that. When you see him at band practice,
Starting point is 01:01:29 I don't know. hey. I will. I hope he has the flaming hot Cheetos then tries to jerk off and some of that cheese dust gets in his dick hole. Oh, come on. We're friends with Matthew. I'm not friends with him. He's our buddy. Nope. I have no clue. Cardiff Electric blind mic, Dr. Stivar. For some reason, Chad Z sounds familiar. Yeah, he was on our show back when you were listening. I wish I had real internet to find out. The web here is sanitized. We had ESPN and Pluto TV, but ESPN stopped working. and Pluto had boobs. De Jango and too many movies,
Starting point is 01:02:04 the administration, didn't want people to watch. I can see where Jango and Jane would get people riled up a little bit. Yeah, the opening scene alone is probably not what you want. The prisoners watch it for movie time. That's funny. Besides, I have $0 to access the Internet. Most things in here are pay more later. So, you know, one of the things that we find from these letters is he's always asking for money.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Yeah. He always needs money. And it's too bad they don't have super chats in jail, I guess. I bet he would do well if you can set up a channel and take super chats. I will never send him anything, dude. It seems WTP is now larger than a Carl, mean, Doug, Kevin, and Andy Orgy. Impressive. I have podcast recommendations to roast.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Despite no money for the tablet slash internet, there is an education side where how are the education oh they have podcasts okay the way this guy writes do they teach you how to write on any of those podcasts so he says death or prison ear hustle chappy and others mostly meh what the fuck
Starting point is 01:03:14 happened to the WATP Poon where are they all leaving who's Hannah and Lucy why haven't I been sent any cool picks seriously you get accused of one crime and everyone forgets you Did he really fucking write that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:30 He gets accused of one crime, and now we've all forgotten about him. We're not even sending him Hannah's, uh... What was he holding the body for a friend? It's not mine officer. You got to believe me. He didn't write that. I swear to God. What?
Starting point is 01:03:46 Get the fuck. You get accused of... Yeah, you got accused of murder because they found the body in your fucking basement, you psycho. And didn't he admit it? I'm pretty sure he confessed right in one. If I'm not mistaken. I don't know. It's been a couple of years now.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Last thing before I get on to other business, what's being said about me? Outside of missing my paddy C cups coverage and the occasional cringe of the week, I'm nothing special. But there's the bum next grotto. Oh, but where's the bum next grotto been? Dude don't return letters. I guess he's been writing letters to people and people aren't getting bad to him. Okay. So I think I know the pick of.
Starting point is 01:04:27 melons I sent but I don't remember why or any context burnt as fuck burnt adjective American English having spent so much time in jail you forget simple things
Starting point is 01:04:42 it's jail dementia look man being 34 and dating younger cool but dating someone who can't get into a bar can't run a hotel room and probably can't drive not cool. Plus, she's a meth addict.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Red flag. What is he talking about? Carl, what he's doing right now? What's he doing? Is he gaslighting me? What's happening? It's time to victim blame. The creeper.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Victim blame. Ha, ha, ha, ha. It's all about the blame. Where you lay it, victim's blame. We'll say it. He's calling her an alcoholic drug addict. Okay, is that what he's saying?
Starting point is 01:05:30 That sounds like what he's saying. Okay. Well, Jerry just super chatted us. The victim here, two bucks. Don't believe him. He killed me. Thank you, Jerry. I have him singing in jail.
Starting point is 01:05:41 I have another song from him. Oh, good. Baby you're dead. I'm a play me all on you. Holy shit. All right. He says, I see so many addicts in here. it ain't worth the hassle.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Clearly, you have a lot of money and she's a smart stripper, L.O.L. Also moving between the two letters I got from Pennsylvania to Ohio, the postage marks, don't lie, means higher quality of freak. Also, your WATP royalty, use that to get all the pod poon you can. Some of that poon may be throwing a hot dog down a hallway, but you tapped that. get that Chrissy Mayer snatch Good luck with the garden I'm craving fresh veggies salsa pickles
Starting point is 01:06:30 He's responding to some letter here That I am not familiar with Yeah right This is Insanity Okay it's for me I'm okay 23 has been a bit of a cluster
Starting point is 01:06:44 But I'm still alive Pops died in January And I wasn't allowed to go to the funeral That's too bad Well either was Jerry But I reconnected with one of with one brie and his family they wrote carl because i'm trying to get to the bottom of the 2022 amazon package mystery i've been moved three times separated from my few friends
Starting point is 01:07:11 and left on a depressing floor i made the lexas law library i started a class fast track a substance abuse STD class. Mostly I took it because it was something to do. Most of the day is spent in one fishbowl slash hamster cage. We can play cards, chess, dominoes, watch TV, chop it up, or hang in our rooms. The floor I'm on now, the TV comes on at 10 instead of 8 a.m. We have antenna only, so most days it's local TV affiliate for news first, plus the one chick's hot. He's watching local news because the chick's out.
Starting point is 01:07:53 He's a horny motherfucker. I know, poor guy. Then Fave TV for some laughs. Defy has swamp people that low truck show. Then CW for reruns of the neighborhood till the news. After the news. The neighborhood. Isn't that the Cedric the entertainer sitcom?
Starting point is 01:08:12 Probably. Oh, jail sucks. Oh, jail is terrible. Oh, but listen to this. This gets better. I was actually watching this last night. After the news, it's Bounce. for a movie or family feud.
Starting point is 01:08:24 The feud? Dude, I got to tell you, I love Steve Harvey. He is hilarious. I don't know if he's always been that funny. I think he's kind of like figured it out. Okay. He's one of my favorite game show host right now. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Am I wrong? I've never watched an episode of Family Feud with Steve Harvey. What? You should. Okay, thanks. Fucking hilarious. Great. Prime time is some drama, football, wrestling, or whatever is on.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Weekends are mostly sports. All right. Well, there you go, Vinny. They're watching wrestling in there. That's fun for them. That's cool. They get some classy content in there. He says, I do read a lot, 130 books in 21 months, anything they give me.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I don't know if Carl shared the letter I sent him a couple of weeks ago, but I swear PM was here. Oh, I didn't know he sent me a letter a couple weeks ago. I must have missed it. If so, he's not horrible. If he was podcasting, not him. It wasn't him. Relax. A lot of people look like that.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Okay. Also, I got rode up for writing a nurse, a Valentine's Day card. Ha ha ha ha ha ha, oh, no. Yeah, I know. Love is bad. Mm-kay. That's not, it was not a nice poem. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Then he says... It started like this. Oh, wait, not that one. Sorry. He says, the floor he's on now is like a mental health word. I chill by myself mostly. That's brutal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:51 That makes it. sense that he's in the mental health war? Yeah, I mean, yes. Does he not realize that he's mentally ill? That's why he's there. A lot of mentally ill people don't realize that they're mentally ill, Vinnie. Oh, they put me in the crazy war. Can you believe it?
Starting point is 01:10:04 They put me in there, guys. One backtrack before I end this, I got to finish the... Oh, God, I'm sorry. I can't read his handwriting. It's actually not that bad, but there's two things on the tables. One, the messaging app. if you got bitches to text you. Two, sting something.
Starting point is 01:10:25 It's the app we get for music. Pretty cool. It's nothing I'd have free, but it has good music. I can no longer care about my mailing address being out there. Send sexy picks, bikini, lingerie. I guess not nude. You heard him, Alex. Get out the lingerie.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Send some money. Oh, cowpicks. Send some money. Support through the ICS mobile app. GTL getting out app or mycare packs.com putting money on the commissionary ensure I have
Starting point is 01:10:58 paper and envelopes to write back commissary. Commissary, thank you. Even I'm more relevant than Stutjo, Matt. And then he says, P.S. Who's Vinnie? With your name spelled with an IE?
Starting point is 01:11:15 He goes, I know Vinny. V-Y-N-N-N-Y. Vinny is the only acknowledged spelling for Mr. Paulino. I have spoken. He's really getting you good. That's some good natured ribbing right there. He definitely did give me as good as he got Jerry. Some good natured ripping from our buddy.
Starting point is 01:11:31 What a fucking asshole. Trevor Zero says Carl, get this man at Cowpix? No. Get him nothing. Honestly, I think we should send him money. He wants internet access. He wants like cool stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Yeah, I bet he does. I want to give him nothing. Vinny, you don't speak for the people. There are a lot of people. I'm the people's champion. That's a good point. And the people say, don't give a fucking murder or anything. But he's sitting there.
Starting point is 01:11:55 He's creating content for us, Vinny. He's creating content. He's a good guy. He's been nice to me. He's always been nice to me. Yeah, they said Charlie Manson was a good guy at everybody in the cell block. He never killed anyone? Who?
Starting point is 01:12:09 Charles Manson. What does that have to do with that? I'm saying that people who are hateously insane are not your friend. I see what you're saying Jesus Christ Thank you for bringing that here That is unbelievable The victim blaming in that is astounding
Starting point is 01:12:28 Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't understand She's a drunk who can't afford a car Who likes meth Well, what a great catch you got Matt You fucking You're fatter than me, asshole Jesus All right, we got anything else
Starting point is 01:12:45 We want to talk about Are we done? No, I think that's It's everything that I wanted to cover. By the way, he did write red flag in red pencil. So that's kind of fun. He was having a little bit of fun with this one. Well, he didn't draw any pictures of Cobra Commander on that one.
Starting point is 01:13:00 No, he did not. All right. I guess I don't even know what to say to that. It's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Don't forget to vote on our subreddit. You'll have a poll up. Go to our subreddit.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Absolutely. And who brought the creepies. Also, folks, good news. Our website is, it's, getting there. It's coming around. It's coming around very quickly, so keep an eye out for that. And until next time, it's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Good gear.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Drugs are bad. You shouldn't do drugs. It's okay, I'm gonna have a three-way. Jen and Chrissy gonna fuck me at your airway. Girl, film that shit and put it up on eBay. Gonna make some fucking money up my three-way. Ugh. Yeah, girl. Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny.

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