The Creep Off - Episode 166: Men Aren’t Nurturers
Episode Date: May 22, 2023This week the PGA invaded our hometown of Rochester, Ny so we decided to nominate the creepiest golfer of all time: In WATC we check out a show called “Murderiffic” spoiler it’s not gre...at: In the Scum Parade we meet a terrible pet owner, a German male nurse & a very brave cleaning woman: Karl reads a brand-new letter from Macomb County Prison from Podcast HitmanThe score is currently tied 1-1. Vote here to decide this week’s winnerCheck out the Scum Parade stories: Bloke uses pet python as weapon and whips victim to ground in wild street fight - Daily StarUsed condoms mailed to dozens of women in Bayside, Melbourne | Daily Mail OnlineNurse in Germany murdered two patients so he could be ‘left in peace’ | Germany | The GuardianA maid was asked to clean up a ‘real mess,’ Florida cops say. Then she saw the tarp (yahoo.com)Want to support the show? Find us on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to get exclusive merch an extra bonus episode every week!
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I'm very excited to do a show with you today, Carl,
because I hear you have a podcast Hitman letter
that you brought for everyone.
Oh, is this supposed to bring that today?
You said you were on WATP the other day.
Oh, that's right.
I did say I might do that.
Well, are you going to do it or not?
Oh, well, can I run home real quick?
Son of a bitch.
Can I run home and grab it?
Okay.
I got a bone to pick with you,
but I'm going to do it after the start of the show.
All right.
Attention parents.
What you're about to see is not suitable for kids.
Shoot.
It's not even suitable for some grown-ups.
You might want to walk away now if you ain't any of these type of things.
I'm going to give the people what they want.
Sensation. Horror, shock.
I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive, and I'm not backing down.
Gookoo, goon, goon.
Golf requires goofy pants and a fat ass.
Hello
Creepos. Welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast, the show
About Creeps by Creeps. For you, creeps, I'm your host. My name is Vinny.
Excelsior. True believers.
And joining me, as always, it's hot cucka, cacarla.
Hey, what's happening?
Vinnie Paulino, good to see you, buddy.
You know, you say that.
I do say that.
You say we're friends, we're pals, and you show up here today.
Two strikes already.
What's what happened?
Number one, you showed up here with a sandwich, and you didn't text me to ask me if I wanted one.
He shows up here with fucking DeBela's.
He's got a whole fucking sub.
And he goes, oh, man, I'm just so hungry.
I haven't eaten.
I wanted to eat before the show starts.
And he sits down and just starts eating a sub in front of me.
You know how fucking wound up I'm going to be now.
I didn't realize that that's like most of my friends are fine with that sort of thing.
I forgot that you have a whole culture.
My people do not take this lightly.
I forgot about your people.
Yeah, my people don't take a lot of things lightly.
Now, the second strike.
I promoted the creep off when I was on the BS show last week.
What else did you wrong?
Oh, that was great.
You certainly did.
You certainly did.
Maybe you did.
I think about it.
Yeah.
I certainly did.
The second thing is you didn't bring the podcast Hitman letter, you stupid asshole.
No, I did.
It's right here.
Woo!
All right.
You know what?
You're back to Evans.
I brought it.
You're back to Evans.
All right.
Well, we might read it today.
Now, in honor of Rochester, New York making national news, we're going to talk about the creepiest golfer in the world today.
We turned into Philadelphia in the golf world.
We were booing people, all sorts of stuff.
A bunch of fucking trailer park trash wearing Bill's jerseys sitting in the stands.
There were Bill's jerseys to country clubs around here.
Disgusting.
Looking good.
I was excited about that.
I think a lot of the assholes that go to these events come from Canada, if I had a guess.
If I had to guess a specific area where they're coming from, it's probably Canada.
Canada trash.
All right.
Carl, let's talk about last week's episode.
We honored the moms before we get to the actual contest today.
And to tell us who won last week's episode, it is our review girl.
And I had not looked at this yet, so I'm finally here.
Hey, Jess, welcome.
On time this time.
Well, I'm just thrilled to see you because I know you're a bringer of good news today.
Oh, shit.
For you, Vinnie, unfortunately not for you, Carl, because today's winner, or last week's winner, is Vinnie with 93 to Carl 65.
Beat your ass, Carl.
Unreal.
You know what?
It wasn't a numbers game.
You said because your victim had.
murdered eight and mine only murdered seven that you should win automatically but it's really about
the style and how you do it totally disagree you can't just fucking strangle them when they're oven
fresh like that the voters fucked up in 2020 they fucked up again here what are you going to do
jesus carl still reliving that someone did say someone did say sorry carl the kill count is
seven to eight but dead babies are especially heinous these are their stories oh carl all right i guess
two of the just numbers you win yes now i know and now the score is updated it is now one to one
carl one to one in this round uh what were our listeners thinking this week on the reddit jess did
they have any thoughts on the on the battle that we had here well someone the first uh top comment says
psa not a show to listen for your lunch hour uh you're welcome correct i completely disagree
what do you mean smothered and rap baby sounds like a fancy restaurant special
And then the other person replied, and keto-friendly.
There it is.
That's the whole common thread right there.
All right, very good.
Very, very good.
Thank you for the update on that.
Yeah, this is not the show to listen to during your lunch break if you put out eating lunch.
You know, today I think you'll be all right.
Yeah?
I think you'll be all right today.
Not a lot of serial killers are good at golf.
You know, I was like, I just Googled serial killer golfer.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Turns out that they're generally just straight-laced douchebats.
Yeah. You got John Daly and then a bunch of rich kids. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty much it. Not far off. De La is coming in because you know what today is, Carl. What is today? It's Super Chat Monday. Oh, my God. I almost forgot. It was Super Chat Monday. Thank you, DeLah for reminding us.
Daela said, don't talk about Coburger or DeVito for two bucks. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Dana. I was laughing at the one that you actually highlighted over. Oh, what did that would say? I thought her speakers were supposed to be a chap.
correct that's why you got me that's why you got me you got me jessica is our uh what what's your title
on the show results girl i'm the results girl yeah yes yes got you there it protects you from carl don't be a
review girl now ladies and gentlemen you're talking about you've done nothing you've done nothing you've done nothing
you've done nothing but provide quality entertainment for all of us just you be you car all right buddy i'll do my
thing. Now, Jess, I thank you so much for joining us today. Where can everybody follow you, as always?
Jess, daydreaming on Twitter, Instagram, all those places. And today on Hack the Movies,
where the premiere, that's Captain Say, reviewing Nightmare on Elm Street 3. I'll be on it,
along with Casey, the final girl. So, so check it out. Awesome. Nightmare and Elm Street
3. I'm trying to remember which one that was. That's where it starts getting real silly, right?
Yes. Yeah. Yeah, that's where that turned straight comedy, didn't it?
Yeah, but yeah, that's the one where he says,
Welcome to Primetime Bitch.
That's a good one.
A classic, a classic.
It certainly is.
All right, Jess, we'll see you next week.
Thank you for everything.
See you next week.
You know, I was, I forget what show it was,
when I was listening to Brian Johnson talk the other day about if they ever met a celebrity
that he was like taken aback by, because he's met a lot of celebrities, obviously.
And he said, what's his name, London, the guy who plays Freddie Krueger?
Oh, yeah, Paul?
No, not Paul.
I can't think of his name, but he goes, yeah, that was the one.
one guy I was very excited to meet.
Who would it be for you?
Someone I'd be really excited to meet
celebrity-wise.
You know, I've
actually met the guy. Aaron Freeman,
who's Gene Wien
would probably be one of my top
picks. Okay. But Les Claypool,
I guess. And you know what? It's funny.
You know, I'm friends with the guitarist in Macedon.
Les Claypool, the dude from Primus? Yeah.
Okay. So,
I'm friends with the guy,
The guy plays guitar in Macedon, and they were touring with Primus, and he gave me tickets.
In Buffalo, I went and saw those two bands play.
And afterwards, he goes, oh, man, I would have had to get backstage tickets.
I totally forgot to give you that.
I was like, oh, yeah, okay, that's fine.
You were probably late.
I was there.
I was there.
Okay.
I would have been there.
I would have been there.
F-Mogg says Robert England.
Robert England.
That is correct.
Paul London.
I'm stupid.
Laughing my ass off Trevor's Joe.
Yeah, I said London.
I'm an idiot.
Yeah.
Whoops.
Now, folks, we promised you a contest.
It is a competition.
Everything is tied one-one.
And now we need to give you our nominations for creepiest golfer of all time.
Carl, why don't you hit that bell?
Yeah, you're up first.
Let's go.
All right, Carl, my creepiest golfer is a pro.
He is a pro.
Sorry, in one second.
There we go.
He's relatively young guy, 26.
six years old at the time of the crime we're going to talk about today.
Okay.
He is a young Canadian golfer.
Don't let that influence your opinion of him.
He played at seven PGA tours since 2012.
And according to PGA, he played his last in 2016.
He was not very good.
He missed the cut multiple times.
He had seven career starts on the tour, never completed one.
Golf is hard, Vinny.
I know.
Golf is hard.
Listen, nobody's inviting me on tour.
No.
Not even to tell jokes.
And I'm all right at that.
Like, I'm better than average.
Prove it.
Better than dirt.
Prove it.
That's that fancy storebought stuff.
Since then, this guy has been bushelging it.
And in 2021, he ran into a little problem down in Florida.
You see, he was talking to an undercover police officer who was disguising themselves as a young teenage girl.
Okay.
Now, Carl, how do you feel about this?
You feel this as entrapment?
Sometimes.
Yeah, I think the way they do.
I mean, I hate it when it's just like vigil.
Gillante justice kind of stuff.
If it's a police officer and they actually have a reason to do it, maybe I could see why they
would do that.
Yeah.
Now, Bowling, he was 26 years old at the time.
He first contacted this decoy in early April through a program called Ad Chat, which I guess
is a messaging platform.
Okay.
Now, according to the police, the conversations turned very sexual in nature within the first
24 hours and intensified quickly to that they described Daniel Bowling as a dangerous predator.
They were a little concerned about this guy.
And how old was this girl supposed to be?
15.
Okay.
Now, according to his social media on May 5th, he was playing pre-qualifying rounds for the U.S.
Open at the Orange Tree Golf Club just southwest of Orlando.
During the qualifying game, he placed in the Tide for 35.
Tied for 35th did not qualify him.
So I guess he was a little bummed out because on the 6th, he gets arrested when he tries to meet up with this deal.
Well, he had some free time.
He had some free time now, so he wanted to get a little pussy.
And he invites this girl to meet him, and he shows up, and it is the police, and he's arrested
rather quickly.
He was charged with obscene communication, traveling to meet with the minor.
Obscene communication?
Yeah, there's videos.
There's videos to minor.
Yeah.
All right.
Attempted lewd and lascivious molestation.
Now, here's the problem, Carl.
I cannot find anything past this arrest.
Yeah, I know.
I'm ready to do a similar issue.
So I don't know what this guy's consequences are, but I do know that he got owned pretty hard by the Orlando Police.
And I loved this on Twitter at Orlando Police.
This is what they wrote.
Arrested with his mugshot, a professional golfer was arrested today by our crimes against children detective.
Daniel Bowling was taken into custody.
He attempted to meet a decoy posing as a 15-year-old girl.
Bowling is a top 100 PGA golfer.
they follow that with the correction
since we first tweeted about this arrest
we've received information that
Mr. Bowling is not in the PGA tour
Stop 100
Whoops
So they're just like we got to fact check this
Yeah
Yeah
Now that's a bummer
Yeah so the problem is Carl
I don't know what happened to him here
And like that's really hard to make him my creep
You know especially because I don't know if he was found guilty
Yeah vote for Carl
He's just accused of this you know
Right yeah vote for Carl
Yeah but uh
Oh, so sending dick pics to a police officer, is that really a crime? Come on.
One more thing, sir.
I remember what he did now.
Oh, okay.
I'm going to jack it where the sun always shines.
He's going to spread the word now.
I need to ease my mind.
Then plan them apple seeds and while the apples grow, I'm going to go out jacking it in.
Askello County, Florida.
Okay.
You see, Carl, he may have been arrested in 2021 for, uh, you know,
you know, trying to talk to this 15-year-old girl sending this videos.
These charges are very, very serious.
But let me tell you what I know he did.
In 2018, he was caught masturbating in his hotel room and Osceola County, Florida.
Again, doesn't sound too bad.
Is that illegal?
Because, holy shit.
The problem was he was doing it in front of the open windows while staring at children playing in the pool.
Oh.
Oh.
okay that's a problem
oh boy yeah
now he was caught doing this
when parents were horrified
looked up and saw this man
standing there jerking off in the window
looking at their children in the pool
and he was arrested for indecent exposure
cannabis possession and drug paraphernalia
but he eventually pled guilty to only two charges
of indecent exposure
and he struck a plea deal with the court
it was handed probation only
so this guy has already jacked
from an open window looking at children
and that he's talking to three years later
even though he was on probation for the first thing
talking to young teenage girls online
that's my creep Daniel Bowling
he's a piece of shit in my opinion
we don't know the ages of these girls in the pool
they could have been 18, 19 years old
you are correct but it says children
yeah yeah and 18 or 19 year olds are teens
in most of these articles yeah yeah all right
well he sounds like he's kind of creepy there Vinny
but let me introduce
you to Travis Watkins.
Now, when you think of the great golfers over the years, obviously Tiger Woods, Arnold
Palmer, Jack Nicholas, and of course, Travis Watkins.
No.
We've all heard his name.
No.
We all celebrate him.
Who?
For all of his feats in the PGA.
No.
The only person who's celebrated for the feats around here are you.
Now, Travis is from Texas, and he's hanging out at this restaurant called Tarelli's in Dallas.
and he's getting a little drunk.
He's putting a few back.
And he starts getting a little angry with the staff and threatening them with violence.
As one does.
Yeah, I mean, maybe they weren't pouring drinks fast enough.
I mean, we've all been there.
Again, I said this, most of these golfers are just drunk douchebags.
Correct.
And this is one of them.
So they decided to call the police.
And when the police show up, they find Watkins drunk and rambling.
and so they take him into custody without incident
and they head down to the city detention center.
Now this is where things escalate.
Oh, no.
This is where the problem happens.
So he didn't go quietly as what you're trying to tell me.
Oh, he did at first, but then they're at the detention center.
And while the officers are processing Watkins,
he allegedly kicked one of the officers so hard it tore a ligament,
dislocating her kneecap.
And then he spit on the other cop.
So there's a woman officer
He kicked so hard
She had to have
Surgery
You don't know that
I do know that
She'd have surgery to repair
You don't know how weak her knee was
She had to have surgery to repair her knee
Her kneecap
That he kicked off of her
She might have already needed surgery
And just found this opportunity
To get the work
Oh yeah
I know
Oh goes one of kneecap surgery
I know
You're probably right Benny
That makes sense
Probably had bad legs to begin with
Not only did he do this
But he showed no remorse
and began to laugh like the Joker in a mocking manner
after kicking her kneecap off.
So after that violent exchange,
they were able to restrain him
and carry him from the detention center
into a squad car
and then to the Lou Starritt jail
where he'll be spending the next few days.
I would like to point out one thing
that I have learned recently.
What's that, buddy?
When you kick somebody in the knee like that,
that's called a leg kick.
That is a leg kick.
Very good.
Look at me.
Look at us growing.
as human beings. I'm learning. Before your very
eyes, everybody. Wapio says
he swept the leg and Carl has a problem with that
vote for Vinny. I couldn't agree more.
All right. All right, everyone.
That's my creep.
Travis Watkins got
drug and kicked a cop and spit on another cop.
A drunk belligerent guy
versus a guy who's jerking
it to children in a swimming pool in an open window.
I don't appreciate your recaps of any.
Why? We don't need it. We already heard your story.
We got it.
Fine.
We get it.
We know what's going on.
Fine.
Fine.
I get it.
I got it.
I know what's good.
I'm going to keep this on the board, though.
One more thing, sir.
I almost forgot.
I'm going to need that in the future, I think.
Nice.
All right, Carl.
So I believe this is time for WATC, yeah?
It is.
It's time for who are these creepos.
Who are these?
Creepos.
This is the segment on the show that we do every single week where we dissect another true crime podcast because we declare that we are the greatest true crime podcast.
But we don't want to just say that and not prove it.
And also, we're quite petty.
So the way that we prove it is by reviewing other true crime podcasts, one at a time.
And that really shows the people.
And I get a lot of notes from people saying, I didn't realize you guys were the best true crime show until who are these creepos.
And I think that it's obvious now to everyone.
I mean, I assume they all know we're pretty good.
Right.
Listen, no one's debating we're top five.
No one's debating that.
But aren't we number one?
And that's what I'm here to prove to you today.
And today I present to you a podcast called MurderRific.
And what's funny about this is I thought for sure it was about it was like how terrific murder is.
Like that's murderific.
But on their website, if you go to MurderRific.com, right in the upper left corner it says murder plus horrific equals murderrific.
So I guess it's horrific murder, not terrific murder.
Okay.
That's good.
So I'm not going to lie to you, Pete.
people, they've piqued my interest.
Okay.
They have my interest right now.
Murder plus horrific.
You're talking to Cousin Vinny.
All right.
So this is hosted by Burtadette from the state of Maine.
Why she needs to explain that?
I do not know.
But she's excited about it.
And she has a Patreon.
And I happen to check out a show that was a Patreon show that was a Patreon show she decided to put out as,
you know, we do that sometimes too.
We want to have a little preview for people like,
hey, if you sign up her a Patreon, this is the kind of content that you're going to get.
And hopefully it gets some people to come over and spend a few bucks a month to check out the programming.
Sure.
So she starts off this show talking about how easy to support her and what you get for that.
Welcome, true crime fans.
It's easy to support Murderific True Crime podcast.
Go to Patreon and search for Murderific to contribute or look in our show notes for the link.
Join today for monthly bonus episodes and access.
to the regular podcast all ad free plus fun merch and shoutouts oh did she say shoutouts i thought
she said show notes i thought i had to sign up to get show notes maybe she said shoutouts i think
it was so i just heard that differently now i think it was shoutouts oh okay all right so fun merch
and how shoutouts and how am i supposed to contribute am i supposed to horrifically someone to
That's another way to contribute to the show.
Yeah, there's multiple ways to contribute to this show, Vinny.
Okay.
And I think you could do both, buddy, because, you know, I see how you guys are killing it on subreddit surfing with the superchats.
So you got enough money bouncing around over there.
We read the super chats on subreddit surfing, Carl.
I read superchats too.
Who are these socials Thursdays at 6?
I mean, who are these podcasts YouTube channel?
I will read your super chats.
Anyway.
Do you ever stop who are these podcasts to throw out a plug for the creep off like that?
You ever stop in the middle of who are these podcasts?
I actually did recently.
Okay.
I actually did recently.
I think you know that.
It was during the first segment of the show.
But, Vinny, I did go ahead and look it up.
And she has 18 people supporting her on Patreon.
Oh.
Now, that's nice of them.
When you have 18 people supporting you, and the lowest tier is two bucks.
She comes from a big family then?
Probably, because listen to what she writes on her Patreon page.
It says, heads up from here and out, 10% of monthly Patreon proceeds.
We'll go to domestic violence organizations.
The money will go to this organization listed below.
Unsubscribe.
If that changes, I'll let you know.
Family Violence Project.org is where 10%.
So she's making, let's say, 40 bucks.
All right.
Maybe it's 45 bucks.
Okay.
So $4.50 is going to stop domestic violence.
So I don't even know we're going to have domestic violence anymore after this.
I think it's probably solved.
For $4.50, you can't even buy a stake to put on their eye.
Like, there's nothing you can do.
Good point.
That's not helpful.
That's a good point.
I think I've talked about this before, but, like, when Katrina happened and there's
like these things where everybody wants to donate to charity and help these poor people out
who suffer through a storm and lost their house and stuff.
Sure.
These local bands would always put on these shows, and there's this place called Moni's Crown.
You can fit like maybe 40 people in there.
I hope Moni's Crown burns down.
I hate that place.
They constantly try to cram comedy shows in there.
Oh, do they really?
There's room for seven people in the main room?
It's a small room.
They're not even chairs in there.
They're like weird little lumps of wood that are like stools.
It's terrible.
It's not great.
And it's so funny because these bands would put on these shows with like five metal bands.
And it's like, all proceeds go to support Katrina or the fucking Warren Ukraine or whatever the fuck they're doing.
It's like, this is not going to sell up anything, guys.
Just keep the 40 bucks you made and pay yourself on the back.
Please.
Good audio.
So anyway, this woman thinks that she's going to.
Apparently, and domestic violence.
All right.
So she brings out a guest on this episode.
Really, 10%.
10%.
What do you think the 3650 goes to?
You think the 3650 goes to cat food?
Because I heard that lady's voice.
That's what I'm guessing, cat food.
100%.
Now, she brings on this guest, Casey.
And I just want to point out the chemistry these two have.
This is a good podcasting duel right here.
My guest today is Casey.
Howdy, folks.
And I was just thinking about how we first met.
I used to call you Casey Kins.
Those were the days where Burn idolized me.
I didn't idolize you ever.
I was mildly fond of you, though.
Mildly fond.
That's probably correct.
How are you doing?
Pretty good stuff, huh?
You're ripping it, I can tell.
You're like, okay, what happens to Knox Carl?
That guy, Casey, sounds like the kind of dude who gets hard watching fire burn things.
I do not like that voice.
Interesting description.
That is not a good voice.
Well, I'm not a huge fan of Burns' voice either.
She's got a little vocal fry going, and I'll give you an example of that right here.
By the way, this is unedited, und doctored audio.
Now I'm about to play for you.
His name was John Cooey, age 46.
He had been arrested 24 times in the last 30 years for things like theft, disorderly intoxication, DUI, fraud, indecent exposure.
What the fuck?
That voice is horrible.
Why are you doing a podcast?
Bernadette.
They threw Bernadette out of the swamp.
Jesus.
Stop it already.
That's not great content either.
No, it's really not great, Benny.
I'll be real honest with you.
This content was tough to get through.
So are you saying that these people aren't going to meet us in the top five?
I don't think so, buddy.
I don't think so because this guy Casey breaks a rule right out of the gate.
and he admits it, but it doesn't stop him.
I recently read in some Facebook groups that you're not supposed to announce the alcohol that you're drinking.
You know, some people just hate that.
But I do want to share today that I'm drinking this awesome 2000, probably 18 vintage of vendage.
Was that $5?
It was eight for a liter and a half.
Wow.
Case doesn't play by the rules, man.
I don't care
I don't care
I like that he said
Fuck you Casey
I saw on Facebook
People don't watch you talking about
What you're drinking
Yeah they also don't watch you drinking
Yeah
It's the other thing too
Yeah I mean
We got frog lady
And the drunk
Yeah
The creepy voice
Awesome show
I mean it's basically
50% of all true crime
podcast is this exact makeup
Yeah
You know I'm assuming Casey's gay
Because it's usually
A girl with an annoying voice
And a gay guy
Yeah
Is how true crime
podcast work
You know
We thought about
adopting that and Carl was just going to pound
white claws during the show and it was to be called
White Claw Law. Yes.
With Carl and Vinny. Yes, correct. And then I was
like, I don't know, I like high noon's better and
kind of changed the whole trajectory of our show.
Yeah, we just went with the creep off instead.
Yes, correct. Yeah, and we decided not
to do the alcohol thing. But you know, I
sometimes wonder, what our show would be
better if we were both ragingly drunk and slurring
our words? Hey, I hear there's
an open time slot. Wednesday's at 8 p.m.
Maybe we could do a show.
No, there isn't. Oh, there's not. Oh, okay.
I thought that was an open time slot on the network.
Which network?
This network.
The creep off network?
Yeah, the creep off network.
We don't have a network, Carl.
No, let's just start making networks.
You want to do that?
That'd be fun.
No.
Other people do that.
Yeah.
We're better than that.
It's funny, though.
We're better than that.
I know.
I've proven that time and time again.
Now, Minnie, one thing that we don't do on this show, and maybe we should, is trigger warnings.
Because people tune into true crime podcasts thinking it's all going to be safe content.
We start with the little disclaimer at the beginning.
It's true.
That's true.
But we need something like this.
This case is about a child murder and the details are pretty sickening.
It did kill me to research this one.
So you have been warned.
Oh, well, listen, if kids are getting killed, well, then I have to tap out.
I mean, that's just too murderific for me.
I feel like that's being a little bit pearl clutchy, ma'am.
A little bit.
Yeah.
It's like, we're listening to a true crime show.
We know.
We know something bad's going to happen.
Let's put it that way.
Should we come up with a new disclaimer at the beginning where we're just like,
You're going to get triggered, motherfuckers?
That's not a bad idea.
Yeah.
And then like have like a sound of a gun.
Like we're clocking a gun.
Then you hear children getting mowed down like something like that to let people know it's going to be bad.
You know what?
Maybe we should do the trigger hoarding after we do the horrific shit.
Be like, by the way, should have told you this before that.
creep off disclaimer contest
send in your creepoff disclaimers
I love it
if someone can tell Matthew Lewinsky
the next letter that he sends
could be a disclaimer contest
I'm dead serious
if you if you send me the winner of this
I'll give you a supercast
subscription I don't give those out very often
but I'll give you what if you give me
the best
new creep off disclaimer
I love it I think that's a good idea
okay all right
I had a wheel of consequence idea too
oh what's that?
Yeah simple piazza jersey
that's hilarious I love it
And since you're a Cubs fan
You got to get the Mets one
Yeah
And since I like the Padres
I'd have to get the Dodgers one
Which is extra
Oh yeah
Yeah, okay, I get it
Since you're interrupting me
I might as well just pull up this
Super chat from Dayla, two bucks
And hashtag never vote for Vinnie
Yes, I follow that hashtag regularly
On all the socials
he follows me and unfollows me on Twitter every day it's weird yeah all right getting back to
this podcast so it's about a nine-year-old girl jessica who was abducted from her home
raped over and over again over a weekend and then murdered and um she tells us a little bit about
jessica some things that we need to know about this child jessica was a happy child who loved
holidays she loved holidays you ever described someone as someone who loved holidays i've
never heard that description before. What a horrific personality trait. Yeah, she hangs out like at the
Hallmark store for hours. She just, she loves holidays so much. Her favorites are actually
Star Wars Day and talk like a pirate day. Our two favorite holidays. Yeah. No wonder it didn't
end well for little Jessica. What the fuck is that? She loved holidays. She enjoyed celebrating
things, did she? That's what that is. Celebrating is fun. Yeah. People like holidays, Christmas,
Thanksgiving. Anything with a big meal with family where gifts are exchanged. Yeah, kids seem to like
And he brings it right back to food again.
Right back to food.
Can you smell my sandwich from over there?
Yes.
Smells good, doesn't it?
Yes.
Was that turkey?
Yeah, it is turkey.
And I got the whole wheat bread that they make there.
Very good.
Fucker.
All right.
Now, I actually had something very in common with Jessica because she's
You're going to be raped to death too?
Possibly.
But before that, she actually has the exact same interests that I do.
I couldn't believe it.
She loved stuffed animals, going to church, and she did really well in school.
Holy shit!
We're like the same person, her and I.
Did you do well in school, Carl?
I did very well in school, yes.
Oh, Jesus.
Yeah.
I had six college credits for calculus before I ever went to college.
And look at what I'm doing with it now, Vinny.
Laughing at jerks.
Cool, cool.
Laughing at jerks.
Cool brag.
Is what I'm doing.
But, I mean, come on, stuffed animals.
Church. I mean, this is cool shit that this girl said to.
Yep. I totally get it. What could possibly go wrong here?
Yeah, what could possibly go wrong? Now, I tune in to this show, murderific for the true crime, but I stay for the commentary.
Mark's mom immediately called 911, which you would do. Like, if your kid was missing, I don't even know how much I'd look around. I would just call the police. I'd be so scared.
I couldn't even imagine. Yeah. So apparently when your child is missing,
calling the police is pretty normal
to do. I'd be so scared.
I would call 911 too.
Would you? Did you?
Do you remember that show we reviewed for WATP
where it was like the adults trying to sound like kids?
Yes.
I feel like that's what we just heard there.
Listen to those voices again.
Ugh. I just took it off the board.
Oh, good. Never mind.
But you people at home can rewind 15 seconds
and hear it again.
Or don't.
Or don't.
Live your life.
So she has a hard time coming up with the right word here.
he's like the bottom of the bottom the lowest of the low he's a garbage man I can't even think of a word for him he's garbage he's a leech to society yeah the word is pedophile is the word that you were looking for there is a word for that yeah when you rape children it's called a pedophile but I like that she calls him a garbage man like well that actually is a thing like if you're her garbage man you gotta look at her sideways from now like what the fuck what the fuck what did I never do to you I work for the city bitch yeah I
clean up your garbage. I never complained. You don't have you
give me a president. Christmas time?
What's wrong with? What's going on here? I have a bit of a leech.
I have a bit of a leech. Give me that.
All right. And then this is the last clip I have
here, and I just have a question about this.
Oh, good. As he became
addicted to crack cocaine,
his crimes became more
like sexually assaulting young children.
How did they become more like sexually
assaulting children? What is he fucking midgets?
That's even more like sexually
assaulting children. Well, see, what happened was,
when he first started off, he was just straight up
assaulting children, like punching them in the face
and kicking them. And then he just started grabbing
dicks and finger in holes. Okay,
it became more like that. Like, at first he had a
boner. Sure. And then he, yeah, okay, I get it.
It started off just pure violence
that turned into love. And then he was coping to
feel. I get it. Like Charles Barry.
So that's
that's my presentation
for you today. Oh, murderific sucks.
So, but I gotta read more from her
Patreon page.
This always bothers me for some reason
when people talk about
why should you donate to my show?
And they want to talk about
how much work they put into their show
and how they deserve to be paid
because of all the work they do.
So it says,
welcome murderific true crime fans.
Thank you for your interest in helping
to support my true crime podcast.
Please consider being our patron
and becoming part of the murderific podcast family.
Each episode takes many hours of research,
writing, editing, and narration.
Right now the show is going
by my sheer love of the true crime genre.
Podcasts are expensive to create
with website costs, equipment costs,
editing costs, et cetera.
Editing costs.
Are podcasts expensive to create?
I don't think they are at all.
I think when I first started a podcasting,
all I had to do was buy a microphone.
A USB microphone.
You just had the one for everyone when you started.
That's true.
And it was fine.
That's true.
Talk about a fucking American success story.
It really was.
Not a great setup where we've
first time to do with the show over at my basement.
No, but here we are.
Started from the bottom now we're here.
That's right.
Why should you become a patron of murderific?
Well, the knowledge that you are helping a small podcast grow and become bigger and better.
Why would I care about that?
The knowledge.
You're not selling me on this.
I go around and say, hey, listen, you all better look at me different.
I'm helping a small podcast get a little bit better.
I didn't even like the show.
I'm just giving her money so that she can someday get better.
Like, how about this for a reason to support?
the show you like the show and you want to hear bonus episodes not not like hey i know this
sucks but if you give me some money maybe i'll get better at some point it's such a bad fucking
approach like i know it's it's it's it's almost the same approach as when people do their first
episode of their show and they go don't judge me it's just the first episode bitch the first
episode better be good yeah you don't have to put it out if it's not good that was the thing we
were doing that, um, I had Ray DeVito on my show this past week on WATP, and we were checking
out this improv show. And, uh, it was like, they got this big write up in the Detroit
Free Press and, you know, there's all these people talking about it. And their very first episode
was the worst thing you've ever seen. It's like, don't start with the worst possible episode.
It's the people are going to check out. Dummies. All right. So. Trevor,
Trevor Zero says for $4.99. Thank you, Trevor Zero. My favorite podcast are the ones where the host sound like their deep-throating glass shards.
Well, then, this might be the show for you then.
Murder-Rific podcast. Thank you, Alex, for turning me on to that one.
All right. Well, Carl, I guess that means it's time for voicemails.
Yes. And those are brought to you by the City of Syracuse.
The Creep-off voicemail segment is brought to by the City of Syracuse.
Today, the Syracuse honors the great Jim Brown.
To the stay, we still have no idea how he managed to beat out all those white running backs.
See you.
Holy shit, McBride.
Holy shit, McBride.
A lot of people had the same note, and that note is that I'm stupid.
Vinnie, in the Bart story, you said the guy was wearing a baklava.
The word is balaclava.
A baklava is a dessert.
You fat fuck.
Hey, Vinnie, I got a voicemail.
Yeah.
Zinny, the word you're looking for is balaclava.
Falklava is a Middle Eastern dessert.
You fat.
I guess a lot of people had the exact same thought.
That's hilarious.
And I don't blame them.
I'm a dumb idiot.
That's fine.
Uh, da-da-da.
Listen, we're Americans.
We don't have to know anything about anything.
It's great.
Works out well for us.
Okay. Well, they didn't hear the sound on mine. So, do you got any more?
I do. I have one more over here.
Mr. Magenta called into the show.
Why don't you have sound on your voicemail?
I don't know. That's a bummer.
I'm going to get a fix, though, right now.
I got it covered. Go ahead.
And this is Mr. Magenta, and this is for the creep-off and Ginny.
So I've also been in the latest WATP, and Carl says, oh, we got a new letter from podcast Hitman.
I'm going to read at the end of the episode.
And I thought, oh, that was funny. That's funny, because it seems like something he'd say for the
creep off. And then at the end of the episode, he says, ah, we're running late. I'm not going to do it.
I'll read it next time. I really hope he did that because Vinny was just texting him furiously
saying, say it for the creep off, you club-butted motherfucker. All right. Thank you. Fuck you. Bye.
Almost. You almost got that. You know, right. But he was very unhappy that I was going to read
that WTP. I will say this. I was. And I voiced my displeasure to you. I did not text you about
it. True. Because I would never listen to your show live. I hope this will come through for
everybody what an asshole what a fucking asshole Carl did you leave enough tithing or do you just
put 20 bucks in there it's 10% of your annual income so divide that by 12 that's how much you should
have given maybe I'll even be generous divide by four for the week that you went Carl if you didn't
do it you have to go back and give the right amount of money or Jesus will not accept your soul
into heaven also did you take communion because if you did and you're not
not baptized, then you're a heretic, and you're going to burn in hell.
So, you know, I hope you didn't do that, Carl.
Fuck, dude.
Fun story.
Fun story.
I believe taking communion is a Catholic thing.
This was not a Catholic church.
Sure.
But I am baptized.
I am baptized Catholic.
So there's that.
I don't know why.
Gross.
My parents were not Catholics, but for some reason I was...
By the way, your parents are recommended to be...
friends with me on Facebook the other day.
Oh, yeah? Yeah.
Facebook algorithm really knows it's stuff.
Yeah. It's good stuff. I have some thoughts on your father's Facebook page.
Maybe would you like to book me on who are these socials we can discuss it?
Now, you might notice when I do talk about my Facebook friends and what they post on there,
I don't give full names or anything. I'm not trying to out anyone specifically.
It sounds like you're trying to out someone. So I'm going to say no to that.
Fair enough. Fair enough. Last one I got.
It's a downbeat, retard, not the upbeat.
You clap on the downbeat, you fucking, you need more band practice.
You need more of that.
If you're clapping on the up, fuck you, you idiot.
The one you don't sing in your songs.
Another one thing has to do with the other.
I thought you're supposed to clap on the upbeat.
How would I know?
All right.
How the fuck would I know?
Do I pretend to be a musician like you?
Wow.
Fighting words, Benny.
No, I'm saying you are a musician.
I don't pretend to be a musician like you.
I'm pretending to be a musician.
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant.
So what the fuck?
Mani Muskitz, $2 super sticker.
What's up, Mani?
He says Vinnie's going to get the tax deduction
on that tithe, by the way.
Perfect.
Yay, superchats.
How much did you put in there?
How much did you give those shysters?
I think I gave him 12 bucks.
I had a five, like seven ones.
I shoved in there.
Yeah, that seems like an excessive amount of money.
10%.
That's what they ask for, dude.
Is that what they ask for now?
10% of your income.
Jeez, Louise.
Gross, not net, people.
Gross, not that.
In the words of Reverend Lovejoy.
Garley, you ready for a scum parade?
Yeah.
All right.
Let's do a scum parade.
Skull parade.
Take me on a raid of these fuck charades that these creeps have made.
Scum parade.
Vinny and Carl
Gonna tell you about some fuck shit
Scum parade
Like stories of a kid
Fuck by his mom or dad
Soaking up the blood of a cat
Scum parade
I feel like we've talked a lot about Florida today
We have
So let's start in Toronto
Okay
An exotic pet owner was caught on camera
Assaulting a man
with a living python in a bizarre street fight.
See, they really need to ban assault snakes in Canada.
This is getting too out of control right now.
Completely agreed.
The attacker, who was identified by the police as 45-year-old Laranello Avila
was arrested when stunned passers-by alerted the police of the commotion near Little Italy and Toronto.
It is little tiny Italy up there.
But a video went viral online showing the moments before the police officers broke up the fight in the middle of the street.
Now, I have the video, Carl.
Would you like to watch it with me?
Yeah, I haven't seen this video.
This reminds you of, like, the crazy cat lady in the Simpsons.
You're just, like, chucking cats and everybody.
This guy's just throwing snakes.
All right.
That's pretty fun.
Here we go.
No sound on this.
Okay.
But, yeah, the guy's got the snake, and he's, like,
he's taunting it with the fucking snake.
Yeah, he was, like, throw to that dude's Jordans.
And now the snake's just on the ground, just sit there.
Like, they're stepping on it.
Oh, my God.
Oh!
Yeah.
What the fuck!
It's just insane.
The man is just flailing at him and the other guy is like backing up.
And I can't imagine.
Ah, he's coming back for more.
Jesus.
He's still going.
They're still going.
He's got the snake in his hand and the snake is just kind of dealing with it the way a snake does.
It just flops around.
Yeah, I don't know what the snake could possibly do.
Oh, there's back.
Now the guy.
Oh.
So the guy with the bag tried to attack him.
I don't attack a man with a snake and he's ready to use it.
Yeah.
Oh, he's not afraid to use this thing.
That's a pet, too.
Yeah.
Fucking Canada.
So the cops end up rolling up on these guys.
But, uh, isn't that insane?
That's insane.
Wow.
Yeah.
The, uh, the Toronto police said they received a call about a man threatening people with a
with a python on Dundas Street, which is pretty populated area downtown.
Sure.
I went to stole police media that the two men were arguing back and forth while the victim warned passers by that Avelia was holding a python.
So this guy was out there like, hey, man, I'm trying to medicine scare people with my python.
Stop blowing out my spot.
And it evolved into what we just saw, Carl.
Oh, yeah, he had a python.
He was ready to use it, for sure.
Yeah.
Now, this is...
Open carry python.
Yeah, this guy was charged with animal cruelty.
Good.
And he has been locked up, which I think is absolutely correct.
I'm not a big fan of snakes, but I don't think.
I think they should be used as weapons.
Agreed.
I don't use it as a whip.
I had never felt sorry for a snake in my life until that.
Until that, yeah.
I've watched people chop their heads off with shovels.
I've seen all sorts of stuff, and I have never felt bad until this asshole.
This Canadian dickhead.
Carl, let's move on to Australia today, shall we?
And the snake doesn't need this guy's help.
The snake's like, listen, I can bite this asshole if you want me to.
You don't have to throw me at them.
Just put me down.
I'll crawl up his leg and I'll start squeezing.
This is what I do.
It's not a problem.
We're a team here.
Yeah, right.
All right, Carl, Australia.
Do you ever keep in touch with anyone from your graduating class?
Sure, yeah.
I have friends.
What's that like?
It's neat.
Victoria Police are investigating after multiple women came forward to report
that they had received letters containing handwritten messages and used condoms.
And that's not a good way to pick up women?
No.
Noted.
No, if you want to do the old U.S.
condom trick. You got to throw them at their front door.
Got it. Okay. So they see you the next day when they go to work.
Nice.
The letters have been mailed to residential addresses across Melbourne southeastern and eastern
suburbs. More than 65 female victims who attended Kilbrada College and Mentone have come
forward so far many have received multiple letters. The first incident was reported to police
on March 20th with the most recent occurring last Monday, as far as I know. Now, here's the
interesting part all of these 65 women who received this letter they all graduated in the year
1999 yeah they're all in the same class so vinnie could you imagine being the girl who doesn't
get the used condom in the mail like you see this story and you're like well what's it's wrong
with me you're checking the mailbox every day just hoping that there's a gooey used condom in there
so you could feel pretty feel good about yourself nope it's just more of those uh just
More letters from the cable company.
Yep.
Political ads.
No use condom.
What a bummer.
No use condom.
I'm never going to use condom in the mail.
I guess I'm not hot enough.
Old fatty franny over there gets nothing.
Some dude in Australia is jerking off into condoms and mailing them to women he graduated with, Carl.
I would think that after you come, you're like, oh, this was a dumb idea.
I'm not going to do this.
No.
This motherfucker's buying a stamp.
Yeah.
No, I know he's.
He's committed.
I'd love to read those letters.
My question is this.
Like, do you think he dropped him off in bulk?
Hmm.
Do you think, like, he, I mean, there's 65 of them.
That's 65 loads.
Well, and some of them got multiple ones, so it's more than 65.
Ah.
That's a, that's a hard day right there.
What a...
He's going to be sore.
He's going to be sore in the morning.
You think the girl who got a bunch of them was like, gives one to old fat Franny.
He's like, here you go, so you don't feel bad.
Yeah, like, crosses out her name and writes Franny on it and puts it in the mail.
Here you go, Franny.
You got one.
I chew, chew, choose you.
And there's a picture of a train.
It's a pretty good gag.
Yeah, he wants to run a train on me.
Here you go.
Oh, God.
Dude, at least he's using protection.
This guy's creepier than podcast Hitman.
This is a creepier letter than what podcast Hitman said your wife.
Well, possibly.
I don't think you can get condoms in jail.
So maybe that's the only reason why.
Oh, yeah.
You can't get pregnant either.
Right.
So, there you go.
Now, cops are trying to figure this out.
If anybody has any information, please contact Australian crime stoppers.
Who gives the fuck?
Who the fuck would have information?
Okay, whatever.
My next stornay, but jerks off a lot.
Yeah, right.
He's always buying condens.
I never see girls show up to his house.
This guy's constantly mailing letters.
It's dumb.
Yeah, I mean, you can tell somebody's a creep if they're actually going to the post office and dropping off letters.
True.
There's something going on there.
Those people should be questioned.
Should be brought him for questioning.
Hey, Carl.
Yes, sir.
Let's keep up with tradition here.
Creepiest employment for a man?
I would say a nurse.
I think you're correct.
A Munich court has sentenced a 27-year-old nurse to life in prison for murdering two patients by deliberately administering unprescribed drugs so he could be, quote, left in peace.
Who says Germans aren't funny?
They're fucking efficient.
That's funny.
The nurse identified only as Mario J.
was also found guilty on six counts of attempted murder,
a spokesperson for the Munich District Court in Southern Germany said on Monday.
During his trial, Mario G. admitted to injecting patients
with sedatives and other drunk cocktails while working in the recovery room at the Munich Hospital.
I wanted to be left in peace, he told the court.
Yeah, like, these people are in there.
I know you're in pain, but moaning over and over again is not helping anyone.
Quiet the fuck down and leave these poor nurses alone.
Yeah, we know it.
hurts. Yeah, I know. I know you're in pain. It's why you're in the hospital. Shut up. We get it.
That's the busiest part of the hospital, I would imagine. The recovery room. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
People who just got out of surgeries and shit. You got to keep an eye on them, make sure their levels are, you got to be checking their shit constantly. Sure. If they're awake or not awake.
Wait a second, Vinnie. You sound like a male nurse. Is there something I don't know about you?
Oh, he's been found out. We figured it out. I got to go, you guys. We are creep. We are creep.
after all.
There's the proof we needed.
I'd rather be caught with a copy of the last Jedi
than a nursing diploma.
Carl.
That's pretty funny.
Thank you.
Ed seen.
All right.
According to the prosecutors,
he administered the drugs
because he wanted to be left alone during his shift
when he was often hungover.
Oh, okay.
Now I get it.
Yeah.
Because, listen, there are many times
that I've been hung over at work
and I want to inject Vinny with seven of them.
A lot of Mondays that I'm here
And I'm like, would this guy just shut the fuck up?
Can I just strangle him or murder him somehow?
He just won't stop talking.
You just want to make the murderific podcast.
That would be a nice bonus.
No, it wouldn't.
So two patients died as a result of Mario G's actions.
One was 80, the other one was 89.
The case recalled, uh, well, whatever.
Either way, this guy, he is, uh,
sentenced to life in prison.
He just was hung over and decided to
fucking straight up murder your grandparents.
Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch.
Why do they even hire men to that job?
They're not nurturers.
Men are not nurturers.
That is correct.
They get annoyed.
They get annoyed very easily.
You know how often this guy was tired of just saying,
walk it off?
Just fucking mouthy people.
Now, Carl, let's end the scum parade.
The best way we know how.
From Germany to Florida.
Carl
Someone asks if we're going to be talking about producer Joe
A different person in Florida
By the way, I didn't watch it
But E. Rock sent me a note
That on Kumi's Cox yesterday,
Chan Ziamak was checking out
The Isotovs playing Black Betty at this very club
And I guess was digging it
I think Chan and our buddies now
Oh, great
Whichever way the fucking wind blows with you people
I knew you'd be excited for me.
Dude, you know how much
much I don't give a fuck.
Carl, do you ever have ever had a cleaning person?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I love cleaning people.
Yeah, they're great.
Because, you know, honestly, Vinnie, I like making a mess.
I don't want to clean it up.
I want somebody else to take care of it for me.
The real heroes of the world.
Anybody who's willing to clean up my mess?
Yes.
They're great.
Now, we're going to...
You know what they won't do cleaning people?
We'll not wipe your ass.
No matter how much how nicely you ask.
Yeah.
You can get down on all fours and wave it at them.
They're not going to do anything.
Yeah.
Even if you follow around the house.
with your butt sticking out, they still won't do it.
With your pants around your knees, just wiggling, it ain't going to happen.
Well, let's tell you about another thing that they won't do, Carl.
Here's a great story for you.
A housekeeper entered a deadly site Wednesday afternoon in Naples, Florida.
According to the police and the Colliers County Sheriff's Office around 2.30 p.m.,
a maid was called by one of her clients, Anthony Michael Corrado, and asked her to come on over and clean up a, quote, real mess at his grandparents home.
When she arrived to the house
She
in the suburb of Golden Gate Estate
She noticed Corrado 34
was covered in blood
The woman went into the bedroom
And heard heavy breathing
And saw a large blue tarp on the floor
And something moving underneath
She began to unwrap the tarp
And found Carrado's grandmother
With a plastic bag over her head
When she attempted to remove the bag
Carrado said, hey, stop it.
Yeah.
You're going to get blood everywhere.
What are you doing?
I'm not making it messier.
Jesus.
I'm going to take that out of your pay if you ruin the rug.
Carrato then told the woman to help her get rid of his grandmother's body before his grandfather got home from the grocery store.
And I also need you to disable the cameras while you do it.
This is what he tells the cleaning lady.
Yeah, I mean, there are some messes that you make that you do have to clean up yourself.
There are some things you can't ask for others to help you with.
this would be one of murdering your grandma would be one of them now the housekeeper insisted we call
911 but carrato who has a long rap she told her no because he quote didn't want to go back to
prison yeah if you call the police i'll get in trouble what are you thinking i told you to
why do you think i told you to turn the cameras what do we pay you for yeah what's going on here
this lady's not getting it it's not figuring out what's going on now this woman is terrified
this guy's covered in blood there's a dead there's a dead lady sitting there yeah um
almost dead lady, and she uses her brain and figures out a great way to get out of this
because this guy is so completely insane. He legitimately thinks she's going to clean it up.
She says, okay, I'll tell you what I'll do. I got a bunch of cleaning products in my car.
Let me go out there and grab them. I'll grab the old dust buster.
Yeah, yeah. Well, I didn't realize I was going to need bleach for this job. I'll be right back.
Mr. Clee? Mr. Clee? Yep. I mean, she goes out to her car, jumps to the car,
jumps to the car, peels out of the driveway,
flags down cops, the cops show up at the house,
and Carrotto is arrested.
Obviously, he's facing second-degree murder charges
and aggravated battery of a person over 65.
Yeah, she's dead.
She was 82.
By the time the cops got there, she was found dead.
The 74-year-old grandfather, who had returned from the store,
was, quote, said she was still alive
and wrapped in a blanket, the report said.
Oh, wait, that's right.
The 74-year-old grandfather, who had returned from the store,
store was still alive and wrapped in a blanket.
The second victim also had injuries
consistent with bloodhead trauma was taken by helicopter
to the Gulf Coast medical.
Yeah, so the cleaning lady didn't help him in time.
And then the thing he didn't want to have happen,
happens. Yeah, so grandpa's got to fucking take
a shot to the habit. Grandpa shows up and, you know,
he's going to be like, hey, where's my wife?
Because they're always asking questions like that
if you have grandparents, you know what I mean? And he's like,
I don't know where she is, but it's fine.
Don't worry about it. And eventually, he had
to fucking beat the crap out of him, too, because
he was probably going to snitch on him.
these people and it's funny too because in the report it talks about what lovely grandparents these people are yeah he's a piece of shit just once i would love for that the story to be like and people say these people are kind of assholes and kind of deserved it so no one's really too upset about it you know just one time i'd like to read that it's just pretty shocking that all the good people are the ones who are getting murdered although i will say now that i think about it because we're going to pivot to podcast hitman uh matthew lewinski's
girlfriend, Jerry, I didn't see a single person say that they knew her or that she was a good
person or they liked her. And I read every news report I could on that thing. And not a single
person was like, and that poor woman. Someone sent me her Facebook page. I looked at her Facebook
page. Pictures of her as a kid and stuff. It's really like, wait, what? Yeah. I didn't know that.
Yeah, I'll send it to you. Because, so she, she's not a trans person? Don't know.
Well, I mean, the pictures do not necessarily. You saw her as a kid, though.
Yeah.
So as a she as a kid.
Like you can't tell.
Oh.
Like just kind of gender generic clothing.
Interesting.
I got to ask Lewinsky about that.
We have a lot to talk about.
We have a lot to catch up with podcasts.
He's not going to tell you if she had a, she was a dude or not.
What do you mean?
Why not?
You're his hero.
Yeah.
You're his hero.
I am.
I'm pretty cool.
Yeah.
You're cool.
All right.
All right.
I should probably read this letter.
I should read that WATP though.
So I said I would.
Is it about WATP?
Yes.
Is it about this show in any way?
No.
Does he confess to the murder in this letter in any way?
I don't remember.
I read it weeks ago.
All right, we'll just read it.
Go ahead.
All right.
So he says, now, quick backstory, if you're just joining us, you're not familiar with this.
There was a man named Matthew Winski, who lives in a suburb of Detroit in Michigan.
And he was a big fan of the show.
He used to be active on our Discord, and he would write to me, DM me all the time, things about Patrick Michael.
Patty C C C Cups, Patty Broken Skull, Patty Pukwater, that guy.
And he would send me all this information.
Eventually, I had him on my show.
Yep.
Because he did a great job of researching what Patrick Michael was up to.
And at that time, he said, now, Carl, I'll no longer be able to help you with the show anymore.
I have a long-term girlfriend, and I needed to devote my time to her.
And I said, that makes zero sense, but whatever.
Do what you got to do, but.
Best of luck.
Best of luck to you.
May the wind be at your back.
So that was in April.
And then fast forward to December, January, all of a sudden he's active again.
And he's sending us all this information and, you know, I don't know, I assume they broke up or something.
And he was able to all of a sudden get back into podcasts.
Well, you assumed right.
Kind of.
Kind of.
Yeah.
So it turns out that he murdered her in their home.
You know, they live in like a townhouse.
Apartment, yeah.
Yeah.
But an apartment, but they have a basement.
Yeah.
It's like a townhouse.
Yeah.
But the father owns, like, the little complex that this is in.
Matthew Lewinsky's dad is the owner, from what I understand.
Yeah, I know he at least owns that unit.
I don't know if he owns the whole thing.
Oh, okay.
I thought he did.
But he was living, Matthew was living there on his dad's dime.
And his dad, I think, was in an old folks home or something.
So anyway, he murdered his girlfriend.
And what's crazy about it is that he didn't know what to do with the body.
So he just decided to figure it out of the future date.
Yeah.
He kept on, kept saying, and punt.
He just kept punted to do that to do list
That one never got crossed out for some reason
He tried to take a little bit of her out
Because apparently there were strips of flesh removed from her back
Yeah
According to all the information we've seen
And we still do not know what that is about
Correct
I assumed cannibalism but that's just me
We don't know
We don't know we do like speculating though
And we like making stuff up
So Matthew Lewinsky
Was caught because he had a
Some type of breakdown
And he had an incident where he was wandering around
in his underwear talking nonsense and so the police brought him into custody and then when they
checked the house they realized that there was a decaying body in the basement well actually a sister
did matthew linsky's sister yeah wasn't what who discovered it yeah my future sister-in-law was
down in the basement officer yeah this is a horrifying there was a really bad smell all the neighbors
knew something was going on but nobody knew exactly so anyway crazy story because matt lewinski
he would used to do these videos from his basement like right next to where the dead body was
where he would be, like, exercising and stuff.
You know, on one of our bonus episodes,
we watched the footage from the police that day.
Yes.
And the sister did not act super shocked about this.
No, she was very calm when the police came and talked to her.
Tells me a lot about Matthew.
Yes.
She was not surprised.
Yeah.
All right.
So he's been reaching out, and he sent a new letter.
Yeah, so apparently Alex sent him a letter recently.
So he responded to Alex's letter.
but mailed it to him RPO boxed at WATP.
And he says,
Alex, sorry, Carl.
The letter you wrote and sent April 2023 is the first I've gotten from you since October 2021.
So I've not been avoiding you all.
I had no idea I was being written to.
I think it might be case related because others haven't had an issue.
Don't know what any of that means.
First and foremost, I'm absolutely devastated that Croix has quit WATP.
This is more disappointing than a WATP.
music episode, hashtag
slutsband.com.
That's a catchy song.
He remembers that.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Very good.
I may have to jerk off
to bikini babes to get over this.
I'm about to go down
some flaming hot Cheetos
covered honey buns
in his honor.
I'm about to down some flaming.
Okay, so he's going to have a snack.
Yeah.
He's going to jerk off and have a snack.
Yeah.
Prison sounds tough.
I'll let Crohnell.
He'll be very happy to hear that.
When you see him at band practice,
I don't know.
hey. I will. I hope he has the flaming hot Cheetos then tries to jerk off and some of that
cheese dust gets in his dick hole. Oh, come on. We're friends with Matthew. I'm not friends with
him. He's our buddy. Nope. I have no clue. Cardiff Electric blind mic, Dr. Stivar. For some reason,
Chad Z sounds familiar. Yeah, he was on our show back when you were listening. I wish I had
real internet to find out. The web here is sanitized. We had ESPN and Pluto TV, but ESPN stopped working.
and Pluto had boobs.
De Jango and too many movies,
the administration, didn't want people to watch.
I can see where Jango and Jane would get people riled up a little bit.
Yeah, the opening scene alone is probably not what you want.
The prisoners watch it for movie time.
That's funny.
Besides, I have $0 to access the Internet.
Most things in here are pay more later.
So, you know, one of the things that we find from these letters is he's always asking for money.
Yeah.
He always needs money.
And it's too bad they don't have super chats in jail, I guess.
I bet he would do well if you can set up a channel and take super chats.
I will never send him anything, dude.
It seems WTP is now larger than a Carl, mean, Doug, Kevin, and Andy Orgy.
Impressive.
I have podcast recommendations to roast.
Despite no money for the tablet slash internet, there is an education side where
how are the education
oh they have podcasts
okay the way this guy writes
do they teach you how to write on any of those podcasts
so he says death or prison
ear hustle chappy and others
mostly meh what the fuck
happened to the WATP Poon
where are they all leaving
who's Hannah and Lucy
why haven't I been sent any cool picks
seriously you get accused of one crime
and everyone forgets you
Did he really fucking write that?
Yeah.
He gets accused of one crime, and now we've all forgotten about him.
We're not even sending him Hannah's, uh...
What was he holding the body for a friend?
It's not mine officer.
You got to believe me.
He didn't write that.
I swear to God.
What?
Get the fuck.
You get accused of...
Yeah, you got accused of murder because they found the body in your fucking basement, you psycho.
And didn't he admit it?
I'm pretty sure he confessed right in one.
If I'm not mistaken.
I don't know.
It's been a couple of years now.
Last thing before I get on to other business, what's being said about me?
Outside of missing my paddy C cups coverage and the occasional cringe of the week, I'm nothing special.
But there's the bum next grotto.
Oh, but where's the bum next grotto been?
Dude don't return letters.
I guess he's been writing letters to people and people aren't getting bad to him.
Okay.
So I think I know the pick of.
melons I sent
but I don't remember why or any
context
burnt as fuck
burnt adjective
American English having spent so much time
in jail
you forget simple things
it's jail dementia
look man being 34
and dating younger
cool
but dating someone who can't get into a bar
can't run a hotel room
and probably can't drive not cool.
Plus, she's a meth addict.
Red flag.
What is he talking about?
Carl, what he's doing right now?
What's he doing?
Is he gaslighting me?
What's happening?
It's time to victim blame.
The creeper.
Victim blame.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
It's all about the blame.
Where you lay it,
victim's blame.
We'll say it.
He's calling her an alcoholic drug addict.
Okay, is that what he's saying?
That sounds like what he's saying.
Okay.
Well, Jerry just super chatted us.
The victim here, two bucks.
Don't believe him.
He killed me.
Thank you, Jerry.
I have him singing in jail.
I have another song from him.
Oh, good.
Baby you're dead.
I'm a play me all on you.
Holy shit.
All right.
He says, I see so many addicts in here.
it ain't worth the hassle.
Clearly, you have a lot of money and she's a smart stripper, L.O.L.
Also moving between the two letters I got from Pennsylvania to Ohio,
the postage marks, don't lie, means higher quality of freak.
Also, your WATP royalty, use that to get all the pod poon you can.
Some of that poon may be throwing a hot dog down a hallway, but you tapped that.
get that Chrissy Mayer snatch
Good luck with the garden
I'm craving fresh veggies salsa pickles
He's responding to some letter here
That I am not familiar with
Yeah right
This is
Insanity
Okay it's for me
I'm okay
23 has been a bit of a cluster
But I'm still alive
Pops died in January
And I wasn't allowed to go to the funeral
That's too bad
Well either was Jerry
But I reconnected
with one of with one brie and his family they wrote carl because i'm trying to get to the bottom
of the 2022 amazon package mystery i've been moved three times separated from my few friends
and left on a depressing floor i made the lexas law library i started a class fast track a substance
abuse STD class.
Mostly I took it because it was something to do.
Most of the day is spent in one fishbowl slash hamster cage.
We can play cards, chess, dominoes, watch TV, chop it up, or hang in our rooms.
The floor I'm on now, the TV comes on at 10 instead of 8 a.m.
We have antenna only, so most days it's local TV affiliate for news first, plus the one chick's hot.
He's watching local news because the chick's out.
He's a horny motherfucker.
I know, poor guy.
Then Fave TV for some laughs.
Defy has swamp people that low truck show.
Then CW for reruns of the neighborhood till the news.
After the news.
The neighborhood.
Isn't that the Cedric the entertainer sitcom?
Probably.
Oh, jail sucks.
Oh, jail is terrible.
Oh, but listen to this.
This gets better.
I was actually watching this last night.
After the news, it's Bounce.
for a movie or family feud.
The feud?
Dude, I got to tell you, I love Steve Harvey.
He is hilarious.
I don't know if he's always been that funny.
I think he's kind of like figured it out.
Okay.
He's one of my favorite game show host right now.
Okay.
Am I wrong?
I've never watched an episode of Family Feud with Steve Harvey.
What?
You should.
Okay, thanks.
Fucking hilarious.
Great.
Prime time is some drama, football, wrestling, or whatever is on.
Weekends are mostly sports.
All right.
Well, there you go, Vinny.
They're watching wrestling in there.
That's fun for them.
That's cool.
They get some classy content in there.
He says, I do read a lot, 130 books in 21 months, anything they give me.
I don't know if Carl shared the letter I sent him a couple of weeks ago, but I swear PM was here.
Oh, I didn't know he sent me a letter a couple weeks ago.
I must have missed it.
If so, he's not horrible.
If he was podcasting, not him.
It wasn't him.
Relax.
A lot of people look like that.
Okay.
Also, I got rode up for writing a nurse, a Valentine's Day card.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha, oh, no.
Yeah, I know.
Love is bad.
Mm-kay.
That's not, it was not a nice poem.
Yeah, I know.
Then he says...
It started like this.
Oh, wait, not that one.
Sorry.
He says, the floor he's on now is like a mental health word.
I chill by myself mostly.
That's brutal.
Yeah.
That makes it.
sense that he's in the mental health war?
Yeah, I mean, yes.
Does he not realize that he's mentally ill?
That's why he's there.
A lot of mentally ill people don't realize that they're mentally ill, Vinnie.
Oh, they put me in the crazy war.
Can you believe it?
They put me in there, guys.
One backtrack before I end this, I got to finish the...
Oh, God, I'm sorry.
I can't read his handwriting.
It's actually not that bad, but there's two things on the tables.
One, the messaging app.
if you got bitches to text you.
Two, sting something.
It's the app we get for music.
Pretty cool.
It's nothing I'd have free, but it has good music.
I can no longer care about my mailing address being out there.
Send sexy picks, bikini, lingerie.
I guess not nude.
You heard him, Alex.
Get out the lingerie.
Send some money.
Oh, cowpicks.
Send some money.
Support through the ICS mobile app.
GTL getting out app
or mycare packs.com
putting money on the
commissionary ensure I have
paper and envelopes to write back
commissary.
Commissary, thank you.
Even I'm
more relevant than Stutjo, Matt.
And then he says, P.S.
Who's Vinnie?
With your name spelled with an IE?
He goes, I know Vinny.
V-Y-N-N-N-Y.
Vinny is the only acknowledged spelling for Mr. Paulino.
I have spoken.
He's really getting you good.
That's some good natured ribbing right there.
He definitely did give me as good as he got Jerry.
Some good natured ripping from our buddy.
What a fucking asshole.
Trevor Zero says Carl,
get this man at Cowpix?
No.
Get him nothing.
Honestly, I think we should send him money.
He wants internet access.
He wants like cool stuff.
Yeah, I bet he does.
I want to give him nothing.
Vinny, you don't speak for the people.
There are a lot of people.
I'm the people's champion.
That's a good point.
And the people say, don't give a fucking murder or anything.
But he's sitting there.
He's creating content for us, Vinny.
He's creating content.
He's a good guy.
He's been nice to me.
He's always been nice to me.
Yeah, they said Charlie Manson was a good guy at everybody in the cell block.
He never killed anyone?
Who?
Charles Manson.
What does that have to do with that?
I'm saying that people who are hateously insane are not your friend.
I see what you're saying
Jesus Christ
Thank you for bringing that here
That is unbelievable
The victim blaming in that is astounding
Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't understand
She's a drunk who can't afford a car
Who likes meth
Well, what a great catch you got Matt
You fucking
You're fatter than me, asshole
Jesus
All right, we got anything else
We want to talk about
Are we done?
No, I think that's
It's everything that I wanted to cover.
By the way, he did write red flag in red pencil.
So that's kind of fun.
He was having a little bit of fun with this one.
Well, he didn't draw any pictures of Cobra Commander on that one.
No, he did not.
All right.
I guess I don't even know what to say to that.
It's nice to be important.
It's more important to be nice.
Don't forget to vote on our subreddit.
You'll have a poll up.
Go to our subreddit.
Absolutely.
And who brought the creepies.
Also, folks, good news.
Our website is, it's,
getting there. It's coming around. It's coming around very
quickly, so keep an eye out for that.
And until next time, it's nice to be important.
It's more important to be nice. Good gear.
Drugs are bad. You shouldn't do drugs.
It's okay, I'm gonna have a three-way.
Jen and Chrissy gonna fuck me at your airway.
Girl, film that shit and put it up on eBay.
Gonna make some fucking money up my three-way.
Ugh.
Yeah, girl.
Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny.
Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny.
