The Creep Off - Episode 167: If the Boot Fits the Tracks

Episode Date: May 29, 2023

Today Karl & Vinnie salute the Air Force by outing some of their biggest creeps and the Karl Podcast Network is born: In WATC we listen to the Shear Crime Podcast hosted by the two busiest women on earth: In the scum parade we meet a landlord with terrible taste in music, a birthday girl who loved her chocolate and we learn to never mess with a teenage girl’s phone. The score 2-1 in favor of Vinnie. Vote here to decide this week’s winnerCheck out the Scum Parade stories: Man blasting Billy Joel’s ‘We Didn’t Start the Fire’ charged with arson (yahoo.com)Mother dies after eating 'poisoned chocolates' she received on her 54th birthday  | Daily Mail Online19 killed in Guyana dorm fire deliberately set by girl whose phone was taken away (nypost.com)Pedophile vicar kept rotting animals and child abuse images (thetimes.co.uk)Want to support the show? Find us on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to get exclusive merch an extra bonus episode every week! 

We could us working on a holiday. You know, man, I wanted to start off the show before we even got going to let everybody know about a big announcement I have. I'm actually starting my own podcast network, everybody. Oh, congratulations. Yeah, dude. I've decided it needs to be done. Someone's got to do it.

So I am starting my brand new podcast network. The creepoff is in subreddit surfing are the only two shows on it so far. But I have hired celebrities to endorse it. Oh, what do you got? Well, I'm just going to make the announcement. right here and start the show. Hey there, everybody out there in Radio Land. This is Brian Johnson

and you're listening to the Carl Network. It's perfect. Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm

going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods, because I'm alive, and I'm not backing down. Go, go, go, go. Off we go, into the wild blue yonder. Hello, Creepbos. Welcome to another edition of your favorite true cry podcast, the show about creeps by creeps for you creeps. I'm your host. My name is Vinny, and I want to start off with the big exelsior. True Believers. And I want to introduce my co-host. As always, you know him. We love them. It's hot cuckaca, Carl.

Hey, what's happened to Vinnie Paulino? That new network's. It sounds intriguing. I'm wondering if you want to pick up my new show called Good Natured Ribbing with me and Kevin Brennan. Good Natured Ribbon. Now on the Carl Network. Nice. Powerful. Yep.

Simple to the point. I got a lot of celebrity endorsements, Carl. I went really out of my way to get these. Wow. Okay. Yeah. This is Cardiff Electric. And you're listening to The Carl Network.

We're going to get the numbers, Carl. Now, Vinnie, I don't want to have too much banter going on because we do have to get to some stuff today. We have a lot to get to, actually. Sure, sure. But I want to give a shout out to Troy Smith, who made that good-natured ribbing graphic for me. Well, I didn't ask him to do it. It was just his idea. And so I posted that on Twitter last night.

I don't know if you saw that. I did. A lot of you thought it was real. A lot of you thought that was a real show and we're already complaining about it. How much you want to bet Brennan would be in on it? Probably. You know why? Because that guy, like what he's doing with MCS or, yeah, MLS.

MLC. MLC. MLC. I don't fucking know anymore. All I'm saying is he likes to stream at odd times. All you need to do is get him in a little block once a week and say, hey, you know, you're streaming anyway. Let's just do something together. Yeah, I'm not going to do that.

So the other thing I want to tell you, though, So speaking of Cardiff, is I have to say, I'm going to go ahead and tell you guys Tuky for third mic on suburb of surfing. Tuky's fantastic on that show. Okay. I really like Tuki. I agree. I also want to do a thank you to a listener because I received a package in the mail today. Apparently came over the weekend.

I hope it was chocolate. Nope. I love a teaser. We're talking about that later. All right. This was a gift from our pal Jerry Carl. Oh, I love Jerry. Thunder and Paradise

Yes The three disc DVD set Yeah Jerry Starring Terry Hulk Hogan Thunder in Paradise The Collection Carl We now owe it Is that the new thing

We're doing on Patreon now? Yeah Let's do this Let's just watch those episodes On Patreon Basically it's three different things Broken into Separate movies

So like number one says Hulk Hogan's character's name is Spencer by the way Okay Which is way more masculine Than his real name Terry True So I'll give him that

Spencer is forced into a marriage of convenience to save his business. So he's a jiggle-o, it sounds like. When his wife gets kidnapped, he and his partner, Brew, must rescue her or risk losing everything. Sounds amazing. Yeah, we got to do that. We're going to do that on a Wednesday, probably. That they can't be more than 90 minutes, can it? No, definitely not.

Probably 82 running. How do we hook that into a DVD? How do we hook a DVD player into the internet? I can rip it. I can rip it. I have a drive. Giddy up. Daddy up.

Thunder and Paradise for the win. Now, Carl, let's bring on our results, girl, to tell us about who won last week, shall we? Let's do it. Hi, Jess. Hey, Jess. Hello. Happy Memorial Day. And Super Chat Monday. Happy Super... More importantly. That was a very important

holiday. I can't believe you're working on this Super Chat Monday. I appreciate it. I know. A lot of people go to the beach on Super Chat Monday or the lake, but not just... I'm still I'd rather stay inside. I'll still be grilling. All right. So last week we did, what was our category last week?

Just remind me. Creepies as a golfer. Okay. A lot of people said they were really bored with this because they said it was as boring as watching real golf. Yeah, golfers aren't that interesting. It turns out they're just drunk belliger and douchebags. Yeah.

Yeah. But we do have a winner. And it's Vinnie with 94 points before. Please. He's going to make a pet. And this is a huge deal that's going down right before the very eyes here. So, Jess, unfortunately, people are not seeing you on the screen because I'm running this. I ran through the wrong end.

But Jess is still here. So I apologize, Jess. Can they hear me? Yes, they can hear you. Cool. And we get the results. And by the way, the bikini that you're wearing today is fantastic. I just, I've never seen such a skimpy bikini on a girl before.

It's really well done. Thanks, Carl. I really You really put out a big effort today for the show Yeah The hair looks great The makeup looks great Are those F cups?

I mean, what is even is that? How do you hide those so well? So impressive How do you hide those? It's amazing I'm a magician I don't And a magician

The boot, wow And magician, yeah I'm in love Wow So Sorry you guys are missing it Yeah, it's a bummer for you guys I forgot that you said I wasn't on screen

That was that was the joke Jass you're like What do you go with this? Carl. I don't. That's a long day. It is a long day. What is it?

One o'clock your time? It's a long day. Okay, Jess, what did, uh, who won last week? We just said that. It was Vinny. I won. You won. Yeah, I just wanted to hear it again.

All right. I just wanted to hear it again. I'm in the lead. All right, two to one now. Vinny is in the lead. Of course, uh, as you know, the first person to reach five wins the round. The other person has to spin the dreaded wheel of consequences. Remind me at the end of the show, I have a show note for us, Vinny.

Okay. Is it, don't run it through the wrong end? Well, you run everything to the wrong end. Dylan from somewhere says, Vinny ran it through the wrong end. I hope he used Astroglide. Thank you, Dylan. Now, can we say hi to Daylaw with this $2 super chat? Sure.

Hi, Vinnie. Hi, Vinnie's lawyer. Hi, Vinnie's lawyer. Still one of my favorite gags Thanks for two bucks stela What kind of comments that people make about this They saw the category It was kind of boring we did too

Any other interesting thoughts from our listeners One Heisenberger 789 said Those creeps sure did suck They just plain sucked I've seen creeps suck before But they were the suckiest bunch of sucks That ever sucked

I get it. 12 up votes. Look at that. Let's see. What else do we got? I don't have anything particular to say about this episode, but here's a comment anyway. Gagia. I think what that person wanted to say was,

It stinks. Don't put words in their mouse, Carl. Carl is the creepiest golfer. Aesthetically speaking, Carl could win creepy as gopher contest. fair enough good one accurate then we have the one that says the creeps this week were as boring as watching golf yeah okay i think the biggest creep is whoever suggested golf as this week's theme guilty guilty yes good point it was me guilty can i just vote no this week i get tariff carl simping for the cops and viny was much better was it much better excuse me i just vote no that should be a third option that actually it would be really funny

If no gets more votes, neither of us get a point. Yes, that's not a bad idea. Because that way, you know, we would have to put up to really get to the points, or we could just get nose every week until the show just gets grounded to Olivia. Never spit another real consequences, yep. I like it. And one more, though, the classic I always see, just to take her top off, which followed by someone said, please no. And then followed by, I'd much rather see her learn to read

and generally not drag the show's energy down to an old man gimp. well good news everybody because jess has just taken her top off and she run that very well so the best of both worlds wow look at those things that's incredible dude did you know she could spit him like that I had no idea that is a talent right there

Hannah who Hannah who is all I got to say wow I'll tell you what I don't even know if I could go on with an episode after this I think if Jess's face could turn red it would be turning red right now but yeah it'd be as red as the hoodie that she's not wearing um ladies gentlemen jess everybody follow her at at jess daydreaming wherever you follow people on social media

did i get it right yes all right we'll see you next week jessica take it easy see you next week i think i cut her off too soon as she was saying goodbye it was kind of funny i mean it wasn't terrible uh we're dicks so carl in honor of today being a real holiday Memorial Day, we are going to celebrate the military by outing some of the biggest creeps of the Air Force. What do you say? I love it. Let's go. Ring that bell. I guess that means I'm going first. You are, sir. Okay. Okay. Well, my creep today, his name is Andre McDonald, major Andre McDonald. And you know that old song, Carl? Old McDonald had a wife. I've heard that. good song yes pretty good it's catchy this guy worked at a cyber warfare unit at the joint base

san antonio lakland he was married to a very attractive woman named andrine macdonald they were both originally from jamaica had come to america they have a six-year-old nonverbal autistic daughter named elena okay and he served in the air force and she ran a rehabilitation business they owned i cannot figure out exactly what they did but they were supposed to be partners in this business. Andre thought everything was going great. Then on March 1st, 2019, Carl, Andrew and McDonald did not show up for work,

and she didn't show up to the gym when she had plans to meet her friends. So they were very concerned. Two of her friends went to the McDonald's house. Is that like a woman to flake out? You know, personally, I wouldn't be concerned until like week three or four of missing out on everything. Maybe there's something actually wrong here.

There's going to be a lot of weeks of missing out for old Andrew. yeah okay okay so andrine doesn't show up everybody's a little concerned they go to her house that's how concerned they were they go in through the back door of the house it was unlocked and as they start walking around they notice some things look a little weird they saw some blood on a light switch that's not normally there is that what you're saying yeah the blood they'd never noticed that yeah there was also a fresh burn pile in the backyard ooh fresh burn and one woman said she saw a zipper in the pile so they were a little concerned there was no sign of Andrene, her stuff was all there. They didn't know what to do. Yep. So they called

her mother and said, hey, if you talk to her, they, she says no, everything I know is fine. The three of them, the mother and the two friends confront Major Andre McDonald. And he goes, oh, where she is, what do I know? Yeah. Yeah. What am I, her mom? Yeah. I'm not keeping track of that. Last time I checked, you were in charge of her. Yeah, right. Yeah. That's always a good comeback. Three days go by nobody has heard from this woman. This guy's not giving anybody any answers. They go to the police. The police go to the house. And as they start looking through the backyard, they find this burn pile. They also found what looked like a purse, an ID card keys, and some other personal items. Hold on a second. Everybody knows that purses make for great kindling. Yes.

If you want to get a fire started, you can't do it on the big logs. You got to throw a purse and maybe a cute top, maybe a sweatshirt with a zipper on it. Yeah. You really want to make sure that your fire looks cute. Right. I agree. Maybe a femur bone is a good way to get the fire going. Well, they decide this is enough for them.

This is enough for them to at least detain Andre. It's enough for me too. And get some questions answered. Yeah, let's get to it. Shut the fuck up. Everything with him is no answers. Yeah. they look through his car, they see that there's a shovel.

They see that there's lots of interesting things that are very circumstantial. Then they searched, got a search warrant, and they found ripped up receipts for a shovel, axe, hatchet, large garbage bags, gloves. So wait, he was burning evidence, but not receipts. He just ripped up receipts. Correct. That's some of the evidence you could have just got ahead and thrown in the fire there, idiot. Correct. Now, McDonald gets charged with tampering with evidence.

Sure. Okay. But he's not charged with any type of crime-related. This woman's disappearance. Got to find a body first. Nobody is found. Let that be a lesson, kids. If they don't find a body, there's a good chance you're getting away with it.

Carl, you don't know the half of it. This story blows my mind when we get to the end. He's charged with tampering and evidence. He's on house arrest. They find the body five months later on somebody's property. Was it in good shape? No. This creep had an amazing lawyer, ladies and gentlemen.

I want you to, here's a clip from the lawyer. it's time to victim blame the creep off victim blame it's all about the blame and where you lay it victim's lame we'll say it

this man denied denied denied denied until a week before court this man's charged with murder he's going to trial and the family amazingly learns that he's going in and going to confess and tell the truth about what happened. Now, McDonald said the controversy began when he learned that his wife left his name off

an important document establishing the assisted living business that they started the rehab business. He found this out while reviewing taxes at H&R Block. I see. Here's the quote. It's not every day you find out your wife is ripping you off. Oh, boy. Okay. I'd call that a motive. The ill feelings that resulted from that discovery end were particularly bitter because he also learned that Adrian McDonald had been talking to an old boyfriend back in Jamaica. So he said he left and went to the park to cool down.

But I'm going to show you some clips of him in court, Carl. Okay. Because I just want you to see what a cool customer this guy is. She started getting aggressive instead of, you know, like apologizing and say, you know, she made him. mistake or something like that. She's going to try to get a and since we had a young child in the house, I didn't want it to

like blow up into any type of physical confrontation. So at that time I decided you know what, I'm just going to leave the house. So his story is, I said to her, hey, you left me off this tax document. She didn't say sorry or anything and I didn't want to have any more problems

so I decided to head out of the house. When he got home, he saw her in the living room he was a little set off by her and they got into a little bit of an argument and apparently she was saying some mean things to him oh no she started yelling at me and started yelling

or suck your mother batty boy the suck your mother batty boy is that patto? Yes it is he was breaking down what does it mean what do you think suck your mama potty boy

means this kid is not yours no no it means this Carl So the phrase Gossokamara means go and give you like your mom oral sex. And then Batty Boy is just another phrase in Jamaica that they use to call it homosexual. Okay, that's pretty fun. Okay.

I, by the way, this is going to be on the board for me forever. Gossokya Mata. Gossackamata is going to be on the board for forever. I believe it was the great MCA. Miao who once said, I was making records when you were sucking your mother's dick, which, by the way, would not. Nowadays, you'd be like, well, yeah, everyone sucks their mom's dick from time to time. But back that, it was very offensive.

It's 20, 23. Now, Carl, when you call someone a Batty boy in Jamaica, yeah. Listen to what he explains this right now. And the second part of it about being a potty boy, which is it a homosexual. Right. Why is that simple?

So, Jamaica is sort of, you know, a little bit of, maybe a home for a bit type of society. So calling somebody like a batting board Like a serious disrespected Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Again, run in the middle Or serious

Yeah, it's serious Usually it starts like a fight Usually that starts a fight, Carl What you gotta say is like That doesn't bother me at all It didn't even bother me He's going about this the wrong way, isn't it? No, he's being completely honest

And that's the thing I'm gonna tell you About this man Okay He got on the stand It is completely honest Oh, okay, he just confesses to everything He's like, yeah she called me gay so i gave her a headbut she started bleeding went into the other room came

back and she was very angry and he says that she rushed over attacked him began throwing punches a scuffle ensued and he said he intentionally tripped his wife to the ground and that he quote landed a couple of kicks here listen he'll tell you all right so you know doing the rest and i sort of used like her own body weight hip toss and used like my leg to like like a trip So that's how she felt. So when she got the second kick, I think I heard like some type of reason, you know, coming out of her. And then also, like in the background,

I could hear like some footsteps running. And at that point, I was like, oh, shit, Elena. So I ran out of the bathroom towards the living room area. And then I saw like Elena, like she was somewhere close to the stairs back at the front. That's his daughter. So I ran towards Elena and picked her up and we went upstairs and then I was trying to get her back to bed. Okay, so Carl, he kicked this woman a bunch of times to the point where she's wheezing and freaking out.

Sure. She's not doing well. He hears his daughter and he's like the fucking Grinch getting caught, stuffing the tree up the chimney. And he goes there and goes, oh, hey, honey, let me put you back to bed. Mommy's just arrested. takes his nonverbal autistic daughter up to bed, tucks her back in, goes downstairs, and guess what he discovers?

She's all dead. Oh, okay. He says mom's all dead. Somehow, I don't know, she died. I mean, I only, you know, was kicking her and stomping her. Sure. Just a couple of times, though. So at that point, honestly, man,

I became, like, pretty franted at that point. Because her fucking shit, you know, you know, she's dead on the floor. You know, we just had a fight obviously, you know, I'm going to get blamed for this. And I got a seven-year-old autistic kid upstairs that was going to take care of her. So, I mean, it was a really pretty scary situation. Carl, any thoughts on this? Yeah, it's probably something you should have thought about before beating your wife to death is this whole thing where you're going to get trouble for it.

And then your autistic kid won't have any parents at all. Yeah, so he's thinking this through. Yeah. And the first that burned. I get it. He's in a tough spot right now. Yeah. But it's kind of his fault, I would say. So that burn pile that they found?

Yeah. That was his clothes and her clothes, that he took off, stripped them both naked. Okay. In the backyard, went and burnt them. Then they found, the police found, a second burn spot. Well, what was that second burn spot, Carl? Here, let me tell you what happened. I get really angry.

So at that point, I poured, like, the gas on him, and I lit the fire. Wasn't enough gas? now it wasn't like a lot of gas it's just like left over gas that I had like I used to cut my own grass but then eventually like you know

as business groom and stuff I started having Eddie come by the house now this is a crazy person so it was just like some left over that I had a container so I poured that out

and then he was out I don't know a lot but it was out pretty fast so he sets her body on fire doesn't destroy her body It's really hard to cremated a body. Like, crematories are, you need to get the heat very hot.

Right. People are not flammable. Correct. Right. So this obviously didn't work. So what's to do now? Well, folks, I'll leave you with this pleasant thought of what this very calm gentleman here, this very calm guy talking about his guy, my business is doing well.

So I have somebody else cut my grass as he's talking about being angry and setting his wife on fire because she cut him out of a business. right so at that point you know i got a hammer and the body's like right there so at that point i just got really pissed off and started like you know hitting the body with the hammer how many times honestly i couldn't tell you but it was multiple times but i know so i know i was like hitting like in the face and like the the neck area and i remember like at first i hit her in the face with the hammer front and then I used the claw and like

hit her in the neck area. I remember the claw got stuck in like her neck and then that's when I like I was like ripping the hammer out and then at that point I think I thought I was done but as I'm like

signing like walk away I give it like one one whack somewhere on the bottom this is in court no one told me there was going to be boasting. Yeah, I got the claw into the hammer stuck in her fucking spine and you know, I had to yank it out and I was so annoyed, I just turned around and gave her

one good whack and I left her there 10 miles from my house in a fucking field, half burnt and beat the fucking dead. What is this guy's attorney? What is the body language of this guy's attorney during this testimony? He's just sitting going, oh, you're blowing it. Dude, no. This is not how we rehearsed this at all.

Well, Carl, you noticed that he started off just blaming, blaming, blaming her. She called me She called me gay and, you know, she cut me out of the business. In Jamaica, that is the penalty for that. Yes. Yeah. So, Carl, there's a two-week trial, 10 hours of deliberation.

Ready for this? Mm-hmm. Not guilty on the charge of murder. What? Guilty on the charge of manslaughter. The going and telling the truth about what a fucking creep you are. And just be like, yeah, this is what I did. There's also, you know, the dead body, hiding a dead body.

Burning the clothes. But also, is it like mutilation of a corpse? Yes. There's like a whole bunch of the things that's going to get this guy on, right? Yes. So check this out. The judge threw the book of him for the crime of manslaughter. The maximum sentence was 20 years.

They also gave him another five years for desecration of a corpse. That's the word I was looking for. Yeah, but here's the problem. Yeah. They ran him consecutively. He's eligible for parole at eight years. All right. Well, I'm not going to marry this guy.

I'll tell you that. I don't like that. I don't think I'm starting a business with him either. No, I know. Seriously, if I get some of the paperwork wrong, I don't want to, I don't want that to happen. I could not believe when I started watching the court video of this guy just calmly explained. Yeah, the claw, the claw part of the hammer got stuck at a spy and I had to, you know, yank it out.

Yeah. I cannot believe how calm this guy was. and how easy it was for him just to blame her. Well, this is, you know, months and months after this happened. He's had a long time to reflect. It's a good lawyer. This is a very good lawyer. I'm not wrong.

This is a great lawyer. You want to catch on some super chats before you do yours? Yes, let's do that because we've had a few that came in. Okay. Starting with De La again, who was also in the Air Force in hopes that he is not a creep. You're not a creep, Dela. Well, I don't know. Brian Johnson says, this Carl Network sounds.

intriguing. Vinnie, I'd like to buy out your stake for $1 million. Sold. Well, I would negotiate if I were you. Me? I think you should negotiate. This guy's got mall rats money. We're talking about. Oh, by the way, Brian Johnson's here. Now that I know he's watching, I watched his movie this weekend. Oh, did you? What did you think? I watched Vulgar. Have you seen it?

I have not. How was it? Is it vulgar? When I tell you that I've now believe that this man really is a fan of the show. I very much believe it. That movie was disturbing. Yes. There are parts that movie where I was just sitting there going, wow, I can't believe it.

And then there were parts of this movie would go, yep, that's Brian. Like the dialogue was so cutesy with really, really horrible things happening. For example, don't give it all away, but no, I'm not going to. For example, one man wanted to forcibly have sex with another man and he put him up against the wall and said hey buddy i'm going to make hey to you whether

you like it or not and i went yeah brian wrote that that's a brian johnson line if i ever heard it why has he said that dear ear i don't know i guess he was through that to your ear before yeah that's what he said people should check out vulgar you should check out vulgar i found it on the voodoo app it was awesome it was fun please go watch his movie and i was texting with him a little bit yesterday evening and i have definitely got a a spot in the sequel, Carl. Oh, yes. Can we be like the radio guys?

You were just talking about a heinous crime or something? That's actually way better than the part I asked for. Oh, okay. I wanted us to be like the new sex freaks. Oh, okay. That would have been cool. I'm up for whatever. Then Cam Critical said, shout out to my old flight chief, Ray Castro, Air Force pedophile caught in a bus. Perception

is reality. Fucking tool. Cam Critical, send me a link. If he's busted online, I want to watch it. Hell yeah. fucking a all right carl it's your turn buddy all right i brought a creep today you probably have heard of this man his name is russell wilson this guy he goes to the broncos in this blockbuster trade and doesn't know to play football anymore completely forgot he completely forgot how to be a quarterback in the NFL the brookens had a good defense and they're looking to make ups no you know

what i read that wrong i'm sorry you know i'm really glad they did that because we were Miami dolphins were able to get bradley chub i um i misread that it's actually russell williams Oops. Okay. Uh-oh. Well, I guess I'll have to pivot now. So, Russ Williams, I believe this might be the perfect definition of a creep. Speaking to Brian, again, Brian was the guy who says, I don't think you guys understand what a creep is.

Like, you guys bring on these people who are do horrific things, serial killers and whatnot. But really, like, a creep is just like a guy you don't want to sit next to on the train. Which has always been our definition. Who would you not want to be stuck in the corner with in a party? Right. So what I think I've done here is I brought the perfect kind of. of a guy who's just kind of a creep, and you're like, oh, I don't want to anything to do with this person, but also a sadistic rapist and murderer. So let's go ahead and start off with our ABC News setup here.

He was a killer with the ultimate cover. As a base commander in the Canadian Air Force, Colonel Russell Williams comforted families of the fallen, rubbed shoulders with the prime minister, and even flew planes for the queen. But no one, including his wife, knew that he was also. also a sexual deviant, burglar, rapist, and murderer. And today, what began as fetish and fantasy led to a life sentence of solitary misery. So this guy was a war veteran. He did stints in Afghanistan with our fellow U.S. troops.

And he was highly regarded. He went up through the ranks very quickly in the Air Force in Canada. But as they always do, he had the old fall from grace, as they say. For more than 20 years, he was a model. Airman and Husband, described as a bright, shining star of the Canadian Air Force. Tonight, he is the most notorious pervert, rapist, and serial killer in recent Canadian history. That's a hat trick.

I like, he's the most notorious pervert. This is from 2010. I don't think they would say that today, based on what his fetish was. I don't know if they would use the word pervert. Everyone now knows it's Army Hammer. Right. Army Hammers are weirdo. Yep.

All right. So let's talk about his amazing career and his fetish that he was at him. Over his flawless career, Russell Williams rose from decorated pilot to commander of support missions in Afghanistan and became the man in charge of Canada's largest and busiest air base. But through those years of overachievement, there were urges. And five years ago, at age 42, he began acting on his fetish for women's underclothes by breaking into homes of strangers and acquaintances alike to dress up, masturbate, and steal samples for his personal collection.

Now, Vinnie, I did send a photo over to you if you want to pop that up on the screen. So what this guy was doing is he was breaking into the homes of these women and sometimes girls, putting on their underpants and doing photo shoots of himself. And if you're not watching, he's wearing like these really cute little outfits,

little underwear. And you know what? For a guy who's like pursuing his passion and his hobbies, he doesn't look happy in these pictures. Well, that's the thing he's very serious about it. He's very militant, if I might say. Dude, he looks like, what are you looking at? Like, that's literally, like, he's the guy

who shows up wearing, like, Frankenfurter, Rocky Horror, drag. He's like, what are you looking at? You got a problem? Like, he's that kind of a guy. Yeah, and it was also revealed in his trial that he had pedophiliac tendencies, stealing underwear of girls as young as nine years old.

So he's putting on this underpants. It's wishful thinking that he was going to fit into a nine-year-old's paddies. He's in good shape. And then he's laying in the victim's bed and jerking off in their underpants and clothing. And he steals these undergarments as well for his collection. He's putting together his own personal collection as he's going. So this escalated over time. It was that he was just breaking in, putting on the underpants, jerking off,

and then he would leave with some for his collection. Take some photos and things like that because he was documenting all this. That was his weird fetters. issue, whatever. And this eventually escalated to the point where he would, in September of 2009, he started to actually tie up the women who are still home and jerk off in front of them. So he wasn't penetrating these people, but he was tying them up, putting on their clothing, jerking off. And he was leaving notes for the victims, too, when they weren't home. Thanks.

So in a nice notes. In a break-in into the bedroom of a 12-year-old girl, he left a message on her computer saying, Merci. So yes, thank you. That was nice. Did he think the girl is from Quebec? I think so, yeah, because he's in Ottawa, so he's right on that edge of English and French speakers. So, yeah, let's get back to ABC's reports and how he was eventually caught as his

Crimes escalated to rape, torture, and murder. More than 80 of his home invasions went unsolved until 27-year-old Jessica Lloyd disappeared in January. Detectives found distinctive tire and boot tracks near her home. And a week later, a sharp-eyed officer noticed the suspicious tread matched the tires on Williams' SUV. This is a photocopy of the boot that you took off your foot just a little while ago, okay? When his boots matched as well, detectives were certain they had their man. Fucking snow, man. It'll get you every time in Canada.

Oh, yeah, if the boots match the tracks, eh? Yeah, it was literally, they took a photo of the tracks in the snow, and this dummy's still wearing those boots around, all new boot goofing and shit. And so they were able to tie him to the crime because what happened was in December, in October and then, or I'm sorry, November of 2009, and then January of 2010, then he took things a little bit further. He was tying these women up and then torturing them, raping them repeatedly, and then murdering them after the fact.

And so he gets brought in for an interrogation that lasted over 10 hours. And over a 10-hour confession described two rapes, 82 burglaries, and the murders of both Lloyd and 37-year-old corporal Marie-France Camus. And I did watch this interrogation. It is fascinating. You've probably seen it because it's one of those very famous ones where this guy is military trained. He knows how to deal with a situation like this. And the interrogator did a phenomenal job.

And about four hours and 40 minutes in, the interrogator is going, okay, what are we going to do, man? What's the next step here? We got your boot. We know this is your boot. We know you were there. You have no excuse for why you were there. And he goes, all right, grab a map. I'll show you where the bodies are.

It was just like, boom, done deal. They got him at that point. So this is them explaining what exactly he did. In both cases, he tied them up, beat and raped them repeatedly for hours while recording it all on video. On one occasion, he stopped to actually adjust the lighting while ignoring his victims please. If I die, Lloyd cries out on video, will you make sure to let my mom know that I love her? oof that's rough right there that's that is rough

this poor woman pleading for her life just wants just wants to be known that she loves her mom she probably just had a fight with her that day the night before it's all she just wanted to get over never give a message to your family to your murderer they're never going to

they probably won't relay the message very quickly it's not going to get to the people you want it to you're better off sending a pigeon you'll have better luck so now because they had the boot print the tire prints and this guy confessed they were able to go search his house and they find all of these underpants from all these incidents all the photos he took the videos that he took of all of this and um they're even to asking them like were you mad at these women was there an issue he was like no i didn't even know them

and they're like what about that that last victim that you spent 10 hours torturing and raping what you think about her? I don't know she's a very nice girl. Can you tell me why you killed her? Do you know why you killed her? Well, I think I killed her because I knew that her story would be recognized. Her story would be recognized?

How do you mean? Well, because she knew I was taking pictures. He seems to be intact enough to realize that this is embarrassing. and that he would have some shame at acknowledging fully that he did these things in contrast to a total psychopath that would be ebullient and almost triumphant in saying, yeah, I did this to her and bitch deserved it.

Yeah, so literally he's going, well, I couldn't let her be alive because then someone might have outed me for taking these photos in girls' underwear. And that's, baby you're dead. I'm a play me all. on you. Everybody's blaming the victim in these stories. He just, he was very embarrassed by Invittany.

He was well respected. He didn't want anyone know that he was jerking off at girls underpants. So he was very concerned about that and decided to get rid of the. What would they say by the hangers, eh? Yeah, right. Exactly. He'd probably be teased relentlessly. He doesn't want that.

So thankfully he was found guilty after the confession. He's serving a life sentence. He's up for parole. in 25 years, so I guess that's about 13 years from now. And in April of 2010, this is fun. Williams was placed on suicide watch because he tried to kill himself by wedging a stuffed cardboard toilet paper roll

down his throat. So he cried a toilet paper roll, stuffed it with toilet paper, and then trying to like shove it down his throat to kill himself, which seems difficult to me. I'm going to say that is an original attempt. It is. It's different. You know what?

I'll also call that a fun fact. You're right. That was a fun fact. Kind of a fun fact about him. All right. Well, you can vote this week on Reddit. As always, the creep are slash the creep off. And vote for Vinny, please. And thank you. You can vote for whoever you'd like. You can vote for Vinny, Carl, or no. Yeah, whatever you'd like to do. No's going to go up there. It'll be fun. All right, Carl. Are you ready to do some WATS? Am I? Creepos. Who are these creepos in a segment we do on the creepoff?

Because we have the best true crime podcast in the world. And we say that and people go, well, how do you know? And I go, why know? Because I listen to every other true crime podcast. There's only one person on planet Earth that has listed to every true crime podcast. And it's Carl, so he would know. And we should all just take his word for it. It's me and 20% of all women are the only people on Earth who have listened to every single true crime podcast.

It would know which one is the best true crime podcast. it today. Do you think I'm going to listen to them? I bring, exactly. So today I bring to you a show called Shear Crime Podcast, hosted by Kenzie and Amy. And now obviously today, we're doing Air Force. So I thought this would be appropriate. What these women do is they watch a true crime documentary and then they want to come on and talk about it. Because what an original idea for a true crime show. Vinny, I can't believe. I've heard this format many times. Like, just, watch the documentary. Why would you want their opinion? I don't think that's already full of

opinions. Anyway, this is how it starts off. Hey guys, thanks for tuning in to episode 53 of sheer crime. I'm Amy. And I'm Kenzie. Today, we cover another chapter from the Netflix series Catching Killers, Bind, Torture, Kill, or better known as BTK. Oh, good. Finally, someone's going to talk about the BTK killer on a true crime show. So, Dennis Radar was in the Air Force. So I thought this was appropriate for us to. Yeah, you know, that Russell guy that you just brought really is like BTK light. Yes, he was, he was compared to him in a lot of the things I was looking at and reading about. Raider was in the Air Force too. I didn't know that. Yes, he was. I know. When I saw that, I was like, do I just bring in the BTK killer? But obviously,

the answer to that is no. All right. So this show starts off as so many of them do with a conversation that should have happened before they hit record. These two women are friends and they want to just catch up for some reason. Oh, my God. How are you? I fucking forgot what you even looked like. When was the last time we were together? Oh, my gosh.

It's been over like eight or ten weeks, I think. It has to be. It has to be. Almost the entire summer. Mm-hmm. And it is. Crazy. It's August 1st right now.

It is August 1st. Oh, my gosh. It's so good to see you. It's so good to see you too. Vinny, why wouldn't they have done this before the show starts? What the hell is you supposed to be? What are we doing here, ladies? Mm-hmm.

All right. So they know the formula for a good true crime podcast. And if you want to know how to do this, write this down. Okay. It might be fun and we might laugh a lot, which is always good. Which is always good for a podcast. For sure. For sure.

I mean, we're sitting here. We have our drinks. Oh, so they're drinking alcohol and laughing a lot. There you go. When does their gay friend get there? That's all it takes, people. It's really all. Yeah, they just need a gay guy who's flammer.

I'm buoyant over the top. Too many take off. Why does everyone feel the need to have cocktails and fucking criminals? I don't know. I think it's just an excuse to drink. If you ask me, I mean, listen, let's talk about what goes really well with drinking. Bowling goes very well. Darts goes very well.

Billiards. These are the things you should be doing if you want to go out drinking. Go hang out your friends. Throw some darts. Don't do a True Cry podcast. and forced out of the rest of us. I think that that's all very solid advice. Oh, I know.

I know a thing or two about drinking at activities. Yeah, you know a lot about drinking and podcasting. That's true, too. So if there's ever an expert on True Crime Podcasts and alcoholism and running the successful show, ladies and gentlemen. Holy shit, you're right. I am uniquely qualified to let these women know that they suck at podcasting. You're the world's foremost experts. Yes.

This is right up by alley. Speaking of bullying, this is up by alley. We'll put the rimshel. shot in and post, don't worry. Good timing. All right, so this is the part that I really enjoyed about this show. The first 15 minutes where they talk about how busy they are. These two women just yenting it up about how busy they both are.

Yes, I have a one-year-old. I have a 13-year-old. How? Yes. Like, how. It's a lot to manage. We're already trying for the next. one. I'm so excited for you.

Yeah. That's very exciting. It's exciting. It's fucking scary. Of course. Well, that answer Stuttering John's question. Are you fucking? I don't care. I don't care. I do not want this woman to procreate anymore. I'm against this baby. Is there a go-fund me I could contribute to for an abortion

for this woman? Are you saying you don't like busy mom talk when you're listening to a true crime podcast? Because Vinny, it doesn't end there, my friend. So yeah, a lot of stuff is going on. We're both, new jobs. We are. So we're both busy with that. Oh, my gosh. So busy. Isn't it nuts? It is so nuts. Like, I'm just, I'm so not used to, even though I still get to work from home, the majority of the time, which is really nice. Yeah. It's just so much more management. Like,

your days are just fully packed with meetings and different things where you're busy all day. And then you go right into the evening where you're busy with activities all night. Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch. Oh, my God. These women are complaining about being busy at work. These are... This is stupid! I guarantee these women spend more time gossiping than getting any work done. I hate people complain about how fucking busy they are. Oh, my life is so difficult.

I have a family. I have a job. Yeah, you and the rest of the fucking world. Relax. And you find time to record this podcast. How do you do it? How is that even possible? And you have time to fuck your husband to have another kid.

I have to report to you. Bad news, Vinny. They don't have time anymore. We will be doing these last two episodes. and then we will be done with the podcast. It was a very, very hard decision. Yay! Say it in so crusty.

Holy shit. Yay! Yeah, so they're coming down and explaining how busy they are and they have to explain to their five listeners. Bad news, guys. We just don't have the time for it. And I mean, Vinny, unless you're not convinced yet, let me convince you how busy they are

and how difficult it would be to keep this podcast going. I literally will have no time for editing. Like, not even an hour. Like, it's so crazy how busy just everything has gotten. And I think my job is a huge part of that, too. Yeah. Because even though I still work at the same place, it's just a totally different job. Oh, yeah.

Like, it's so different than what I had been doing before and had been doing for five years. Vinny, who decided to let women into the workforce? Whose decision? I wasn't consulted on this one And I'm guys with bossy wives Holy shit I don't know man That's a lot

I'm really busy You know what it mostly is my full time job Good It should be This should be what you're busy with This podcast doesn't sound like a passion project either Like it doesn't sound like they give a shit About true crime at all

No I know that's the thing Is that they're just like You know what sucks about doing this hobby Is that I have a job And so I can't do this his hobby the number one reason why the creep off works in concept is that we take a different type of angle at stuff that's out there and that biddy and i are both unemployable so we have the time to do it this is all we have this is that's please support the show super champ on to everybody

patreon supercast and back by i just feel like these shows that come out into existence because they think that all they have to do is watch someone else's documentary that did all the research and then comment on it. Yeah. Or just recap it for you. Like, I couldn't just watch it if I wanted to. I wouldn't even listen to these women try to recap Thunder and Paradise. Whoa.

Whoa. I wouldn't. That's saying something. I think you would, actually. All right, maybe a little. Give it a taste. So I just find this very annoying when people are complaining about how busy their job is. She never explains where her job is, but she's to tell you all about it.

I hope she's the barista that has to suck off everybody while they're peen. Maybe. Maybe. That thing at WATP. That was insane. Wasn't that a cringe of the week from Adam Thoreau? Yeah. So she wasn't explaining what her job is.

So there's no way you can be interested in what she's saying, but she's telling you all about it. And it's the same company, but it's a new job and it's so much work. And I have so much work to do. And I'm so busy. I never met a successful person who complained about being busy. It's always assholes. Always. Every time, by the way, I'm very busy this week, Vinny.

So I don't know if we can do the... Every time I talk to you about everything. Like, I'm a little busy that day, then. I got... I am busy. many other people's podcasts to do that aren't yours. But you know what, though? She's talking about her work schedule, but she's like, but you, you're busy too, right? But you're going to be having another baby soon. That is going to be super time consuming as well for you. I know. Right.

Right. Aren't we both like so busy, right? Like you're having a baby or you have a baby. Like that's busy, right? We're busy. She's got like nine months of free time there. Right. I agree. Just saying. I I don't know how that all works. I don't know how gestation works. No one's asking you. No one's been calling into the show with questions on it, so you're fine. Welcome to gestation talk with Vinny. All right, put it on the wheel.

How far long are you? Put it on the wheel of consequences. Oh, go to the show. How far long are you? It'll be called six weeks, just saying. Your feet hurt, too? All right. Weird cravings, huh?

Oh. So what's crazy is that they're going through and explaining. They're like they feel like they need to over-explain why the show is ending. And it's not like this is, I don't know, WTF with Mark Merritt or something. And he's had this following for over a decade. And there's millions of listeners. Listen, where it's coming to a close. Here's why these people are explaining over and over again.

They can't do the show anymore. They're so busy. They don't have the time. And it's inferiorating because I'm just like, okay, we'll just end at them. I mean, no one wants to listen to it anyway. Who cares? blow it up yeah blow it up go away no one would notice if you just went away but um this is kind of a bummer for the one woman because she really liked being a podcasting superstar what now i'm just a mom again

yeah you know i bet she she's the first person to bring up that she has a podcast in any social setting well my work keeps you really busy yeah and i and i but you know what else keeps you busy is my podcast i put so much work have you heard of sheer crime podcast because i'm one of the hosts of sheer crime. Have you listened to that? I mean, a lot of people do. I don't know. Maybe you'd stumbled upon that.

You listen to podcasts? What do you mean? You're too busy to listen to my podcast. Yeah, right. Shut up. So I love this. She's like, oh, now I'm just going to be a mom again. She's going to be that boring woman with nothing going on.

You were always that boring woman with nothing going on. That's who you are. Don't let being a parent stop you. Never stopped Seamus. It's true. Never stop Patrick Michael. There's a lot of people that being a parent does not stop from being selfish. and wanted to become famous.

Good point. Paddy Seacups is mad at me, by the way. What did what he wanted me to do? I featured his show on my show and gave a lot of attention. Like he was asking for him. He's saying my name over and over gets like, fine. We'll talk about you. Now he's mad at me.

I can't win with this guy. Oh, good. I can't wait to hear this. Yeah, I know. I'm all in on that. We'll cover it this week at WATP. Can't wait. But I think Patty, we might have ran him out of the podcasting business yet again.

But he still put out an episode He put out one more, I think And that did it end like this one ended I don't know if I could do this anymore I haven't listened to it yet But I've literally had multiple people reach out to me Who are bummed about this So we'll see

We'll see what happens Okay You pulled a shooley and drove him off the internet I didn't say it Say what All right so we're 12 minutes in now Vinnie By the way that's the kind of frank honest talk You could get right here on the Carl Network

The Carl Network I might have to start this network. I do like that jiggle. We're 12 minutes in, Vinny. And they're still talking about this. They're still fucking talking about how busy they are and other excuses, why they can't podcast anymore. And this is funny because they were hoping that they wouldn't have to work.

We want to continue that as well, but I think everyone can understand. where this kind of just is too much. It's a lot. It's a lot for us to take on right now. Well, let's be honest. Both of us sort of half expected, half hoped, probably mostly hoped, that this would take off. Yes. And we would have all the time in the world to do it. Yes. And it would be a weekly thing and maybe a twice a week thing, but it just didn't, it didn't happen that way. Right. Which is fine. And that happens to a lot of podcasts. It's hard. Unless you can dedicate a lot of time and make this your full-time job. I mean, if you think about all the big podcasts out there, they have

10 to 15 people working on the podcast. Well, and most of those people were already famous before they started their podcast. Right. And they have producers and they have people that do all the certain aspects of the podcast, whereas like it's just us. Yeah. I hear a lot of excuses why this show didn't take off any. You know, I heard some, I heard, I liked the wishful thinking at the beginning there. Well, they have expected. Yeah. First they go, we have expected this to take off and become our full-time jobs. We were going to be. become big podcasting stars. Why? When they said that, I immediately thought that the full-time job that they're doing, that they're not saying what it is, is like, Mary Kay. Oh, shit. You're

probably right. It's something really stupid. Yeah, Tupperware parties. Multi-level marketing, something where they're like, I could be successful. This is, I just have to do this. Oh, wow. I think you're right. I heard it in their voices. They're wishful thinkers these two. So what's annoying about that is they're trying to make excuses as to why they're short and turned off. Most podcasts have 10 to 15 people working on them. Not true. Not true at all. And then she says, you know, and also the podcasts that are successful,

those people were already famous. Not in true crime. I'm Nancy Grace, but other than that. Good point. All these true crime podcasts that make it big are nobodies who are just better at it than you, a lot better at it than you are. So this idea, and I thought that it was just very telling that they're on here talking about how, yeah, you know, it just didn't work out for us,

but, you know, what are you going to do? I mean, it's not nothing that we did wrong. It's like, no, no, no, it is. You guys are bad at this. Aw. You didn't take off because you suck at podcasting. That's the problem here. And then we're now 13 minutes in, baby.

That's it. We're only 13 minutes. And this is still going on. How long is this episode? An hour. This is still going on 13 minutes in. Again, it has been so busy. I had no time.

Every week something came up for you or for me. Like, we could never figure out a time frame. And then, you know, with kids, we needed. to make sure someone was here to watch the kids. And so there's... Yeah, I have two teenagers babysitting right now in the other room. Yes.

We're making it work. We're making it work. We get it. You're busy. Holy shit. Vinny, I can't fucking take it. I can't fucking take it. I just want to hear about the BTK killer.

What's this guy up to? Yeah. I want to know what happened. Don't... I've never longed to hear that story for the umpteenth time as much as I am during the show. They just won't get to it. He took their bodies to the church he worked at. Tell me more.

They just won't get to it. So, Vinny. Now we find out the real reason why these people started a podcast and what this one thinks about herself. Well, I also like half expected to come on here today and be like, Kenzie, I won that one billion mega million lottery. And here's a huge portion for you. You can quit your job now. And this is what we're doing. We're also going on where you would go.

and how you'd spend your money, how you'd invest your money, how you... Yeah, I fantasize about that a lot. Yeah, I don't even hate my job, but... I'm sorry. So I didn't mean to pull all that stuff. This is where they're going through

and talking about how they've just been playing the lottery recently. We're hoping that they'd win the lottery and then they're a podcast. They really are, and it doesn't end there. I'd have to work. Yeah, yeah, I think that's... I think everyone can probably say the same. I feel like I should have been born, like,

I don't know, a Hilton or a Cardan. Ashian or somebody who doesn't have to work. I should have been born that way. I know. I should have made it on American Idol back when I tried out for American Idol when I was like 14. Damn it. I missed it.

I missed the spot to make it famous and, you know, do something I actually love. So these are just a couple of fame horrors. They just want to be famous. They're just doing everything. They kind of try to be famous. They're going on. America's got talent or American Idol or podcasting. true crime nonsense that everyone else is doing they're two steps away from an only fans with the

all her bond and the mary k doesn't work yeah i don't know how big these women are but it might be more than two steps yeah well if they can make two steps get it superchats coming in mich will see one 99 give half of this to matt lewinski you got it buddy i agree we're gonna we're gonna start a matt louiskey fun we're gonna talk a little bit more about that i will generate uh generous i will generously donate to that Trevor zero 499 we're making it work. Famous last words. Agreed. And De Laas says, never vote for Vinny. Never vote

for Vinny. It's terrible. Terrible advice. That shows terrible, and I hope, glad it's done. Was it done last August? Was that the end of it? Yeah. What's the funniest part is that they go, okay, we're going to do two more episodes. We're too busy, just two more, and then we're done. We apologize. People are going to be

upset. And then that was the last episode. They never got to that other episode they were going to do. I guess they got too busy. All right. That's too bad. So, Carl, do you have any more from that? That's it, buddy. I guess that means it's time for some voicemails. Let's go.

The creep-off voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse. Syracuse wishes you a very happy Memorial Day, or as we like to call it, the original participation trophy. See you in Syracuse. That's pretty good, Brian. Exclusively on the Carl Podcasting Network. This network's awesome. It's the best network ever.

Wait, my name's on the contract. I know. What? You know how you said earlier? You might have to start this network. You can't because I owed it. Yeah, that's pretty funny. My name is Vinnie Paulino, the sole proprietor of the Carl Network.

Holy shit. You just reminded me of something I totally forgot about because Shulie was trying to spin it, that those guys were just having fun and making fun of clips, and we were going deeper into John's personal life and shit. As you remember, Shulies, guy who wanted to trademark Gagia so that John couldn't use his own side off anymore. Yeah, it's like he wasn't fucking with the guy in real life. Anyway, complete violation.

Hey, Dylan from somewhere, great point. Let me throw this out there for you. Vinnie, can you just tell us the creep off call number rather than directing us to get it from the site that has been down for several months? Certainly can. 585371. 80808. And good news, everybody, the site will be up very, very soon.

All right. Let me play my voicemail first, too. Please. Oh, man, I already called, but I got a better joke. It's like the creep off website, which is missing. It's like Vinny is like eating the cookies on the website, like om, nom, num, cookies. And he ate the website because he's fucking fat, be like cookies. Yep.

Yeah. Go fuck yourself, Vinny. Fix your website. You know, normally when people talk about web, like browser cookies, I'm like, yeah, that's a hack joke. But somehow that guy made it work. That was pretty funny. Haldberg and I ain't going to have it. Fuck you both.

Fair enough. First one coming in. What I just heard was Vinnie bringing in a creep and Carl bringing in a hero, Vinny wins. He was talking about your creep last week who kicked a police officer. Yeah, knocked your kneecap off of her by kicking her. Yeah. I don't think that makes anyone a hero, sir, but okay. Here's some thoughts.

Here's some thoughts on our consequences. Hey, Vinnie, love you, and you are handsome Vinny Winnie. Okay, you need to stop with these bitch-ass gay fucking consequences. You need to go for a real man's consequence, and let's say winner or loser has to, like, go to a sporting event with a free Matt Winsky sign or something. Just don't be bitches. Just do an actual consequence. Oh, I carry a fucking bear. Okay, gay.

All right, I'll be bye. I never got video of you talking to someone in public. I need to get that for you, buddy. I will get that. Did you ever post it? I guess we'll put it on the website when we get it. Did you ever post it again? I was waiting for it to get all of it from you.

Social media. Someone was complaining they want to see these photos of me and there's no like centralized hub for that. So listen, follow us at creepoff pod on Instagram. That's where I'm putting a lot of this stuff. And obviously on Twitter at creepoff pod. But most of it's been going to the Instagram. A lot of really funny creepoff fan art from you guys.

Yes. And lots of silly things I'm throwing. up there. Now, Carl, this one is, let's start talking about podcast, Tipman. A lot of people have thoughts about my thoughts on it, your thoughts on the letter

we got last week. We'll be back to the creep off after this commercial. And we're back. We have a message from Matthew Lewinsky. Kill yourself. Fucking kill yourself, podcast, Fitman. These aren't your friends.

They aren't your buddies. They're a friend. with you when you had something to contribute that changed we're not going to sacrifice anything for you i don't know but the sentiment is there that i kind of agree with hold on a second i'm not the guy's friends four creeps viny and all of a sudden we're mad because one of our listeners was a creep this is this is our target devil that we're man louiskey is our target devil okay A lot of people are mad at me on my stance on this, and I have a proposal. Well, I think Vinny's just worried that Lewinsky's going to get out of jail, and then he's going to see all of Benny's back bacon and get a little hungry and become a repeat offender. You have nothing to worry about being the scrawny piece of shit you are, but Vinny's really worried.

I say give him money, not because I necessarily want to see Vinny get chopped up into bacon, but because, uh, I think it'll be more funny. Also, there's a way for him to get access to all these internet sites for free on those tablets. Maybe I'll write him a letter and some instructions on how to do that. You should. Stop breaking the fucking system, and he's too dumb to figure it out. Okay, go ahead. That sounds like a guy who's done some time.

I think it is. I think it is. Is that cow, was that cow photographer? It might have been. It sounded like a photographer. I don't know. Okay. This is a friend of the show, Animal Kelly,

in okay hey Vinnie this is Annable Kelly man what a great episode last week you guys were a hoot and Nancy Lewinsky god damn Carl glad you stay in contact with that guy I don't know any other podcast that not only had a fan that was a convicted murderer but the show still stays in contact with him not convicted yet he's them for content like there's no other show I know that is not only you guys one of the best podcasts you you got that unique angle Now, I heard, Penny, what you said. And I actually wanted to get a second opinion since, you know, I'm a fan.

I don't know what I want. So I talked to my buddy who worked at Lafey and Martin and went through a supercomputer. Oh, oh, that's the, it's almost done printing. It's got the results of, about what your opinion is. It's printing. Sounds like it's printing. Yep. That's a printer, all right.

Oh, we got the results here on what we think. And, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, it says you're a fucking retard. That's a supercomputer right there. Damn it. It's pretty good. I thought it was pretty smart. And I want to point out the reason why Vinny's more concerned about Matthew Lewinsky getting out of jail than I am is that I know I can outrun him.

So he is not a threat to me. You don't think I can outrun the guy who's got 100 pounds on me and a gapey leg wound. I think you don't think I could outrun. I think you don't think I could outrun. I think you don't think you can outrun a video. That's why you're so afraid of them. Hey, don't give them any money. Don't give anybody.

He's going to come and get me. Fucker, if you think I think that you're out of your mind, I know I can outrun Matthew Lewinsky. And you know what? Motherfuckers got more time to work out than I do. Well, I will say that if you were jogging downhill, he might get more momentum going. Jesus Christ, then I'm in trouble. Watch out for that. That is fucking Indiana Jones.

Yeah. If you get just rolling, he might catch up to you. There would be some severe property damage. Oh, wait, Animal Kelly left a second voicemail here. Hold on. Oh, good. I like him. Oh, Vinny, I am so, so sorry.

There was a follow-up to the paperwork from the computer, and it said, you're also a fat bitch. Oh, come on. What is that AI? That is impressive technology right there. This is bullshit. Wow. You got any more voicemails, Carl? That's it.

Okay. So here's what I'm going to propose. I personally do not want to give a podcast to it. anybody. Oh, you don't have to personally. But if you people want to give him money, here's what we're going to do. Yeah. And I thought of the fundest way to do this. Carl, Alex came up with this idea. I could, we can make this work. Podcast Hitman t-shirt. All the money goes to him. Interesting. We create a t-shirt. Okay. All of the proceeds go directly into his fucking commissary. So if you want to directly support a murderer, if you want to be a creep,

supportive murderer be my guest. It could be like that dark Brandon shirt that's starting Johnny with the red eyes but it would be Matt Lewinsky that mugshot of him. Yeah, as long as it doesn't say

free Matt Lewinsky. Oh, in the back and we'll say free Matt Lewinsky. I don't know if I want to put free Matt Lewinsky into the world. Well, I don't want to call it free Matt Lewinsky shirts because we don't get any money for it. So be careful with that. So if anybody has any of you artists out there

have any idea for a podcast, Hit Man T-shirt, I would set it up. I could set it up. We'll send all the money directly to his fucking commissary if you want to support a murderer. I like that. I'm not taking a penny of that. I bet we sell way more of those that we've sold Creep-off shirts today. I will be so upset.

I will be so upset. I bet we sell a bunch of those. Yeah, let's do that. Is that a tax write off? Can we write that off? Yeah. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. That's a good idea. Let's do that. All right. So hit me up with design ideas, people. I'm not making that shit. All right, Carl. I guess that means it's time for a scum parade.

How you feel for a scum parade? I'm ready, buddy. All right. Driving children of crick-of-peed-todoo, tidal in. Bagger murderers, great-st-do-gritty-ray. So you see your pet, abusive asshats. Gather a scum parade. Scumparade.

Scum parade on the creep on the creep on. Yeah, a stror parade. A manna and Vinnie are back A Minnesota landlord who is blaring Billy Joel's We didn't start the fire at the scene of a blazied residential fire has been accused of arson, Carl. It's a metaphor, sir. There isn't really a fire in the Billy Joel song. Starting a fire is a metaphor.

Yeah. An MP3 is not an alibi, dickhead. Good point. Travis Carlson 37 was charged Tuesday with the ironic crime at a residence that he owned. First responders arrived at the fire at about 4 a.m. on May 18th, according to the documents when they reached the seat, they heard the 1989, Billy Joel hit song blasting from speakers in an upstairs apartment. And they all shared a chuckle. A downstairs tenant told investigators that Carlson knocked out his door around 3.30 a.m.

and simply said, the house is on fire. according to the probable cause statement of the police. Oh, they should have got the bloodhound gang. I was just going to say. That'd be great. The tenant had awoken earlier in the night to the sounds of Carlson smashing and breaking things in the upstairs unit. A neighbor eventually called 911. When officers rise, Carlson had already fled the scene, leaving the cops to listen to his factually inaccurate choice of music.

Right. Arson investigators found a hole in the gas tank of Carlson's truck and fire accelerant throughout his apartment. a drill and a gas can were also discovered to hear the truck. You don't have to take it out of your own truck, retard. This motherfucker couldn't find

a plastic tube to siphon it out. He's literally drilling a hole. No shit. Or you can just pump it into a gas container. You don't have to use the gas you've already purchased.

What a moron. I actually think that he was trying to be brilliant. He's like, no, did you hear the song? I did not start this fire. That was coming from my place. I'm, I'm, in that song. Legally speaking.

I am I. Oh, actually, if you get to the next part, I think we're going to prove this guy is definitely retarded. Okay. Duluth police found it arrested Carlson the next day he had burns on his legs and arms. Whoops! He just spilled that gasoline all over himself while white matches. What a moron. He was probably just so moving to the music.

Oh, yeah, he's probably rocking out a little bit. Yeah, good point. AIDS, Needles, Bernie gets, ah! I'm on fire! Jesus. Duluth police said the local prosecutors, I'm sorry, said in court foul. that there may be some mental health or drug-related concerns here. Or both.

Let's talk about Matt, baby. Let's talk about a yes-er-ree. Let's talk about all the bad things and the bad things, meth-eds-see. Let's talk about meth. Drugs are bad. You shouldn't do drugs. I shits you not this article. It's with a spokeswoman for Billy Joel to find the comment.

And they put the name of the spokesperson just to prove they reached out to her. Yeah. I've never seen that before. The spokesman for Billy Joel, they probably looked it up on LinkedIn, but either way, the fact that they put the spokesperson's name in there just to be like, see, we're doing our due diligence. Like, what kind of comment would you have for that? I didn't mean for this song to be the inspiration to burn buildings down. You know, you happy? Billy Joel has a spokeswoman.

Yeah. 50 bucks says it's his bartender. Ooh, good point. 50 bucks says it's his bartender. Good point. I'll tell him I'm not here. That's what's happening. For an extra 10 bucks, we can say we don't know you.

You got it, Claire. That old gag. Now, Carl. Yes. When someone sends you a package, you have the P.O. box. We do, yeah. Yeah. If somebody sends you something edible, are you going to eat it?

Vinny, no. Definitely not. Unless it's sealed, unless it's something that it looks like it came from the manufacturer directly, no. Good advice. Good, good, good advice. A woman has died after eating Poisoned Chocolate she received as a gift for her 54th birthday.

Lendasi Viagis Batista de Carlohoa collapsed in agony after trying the sweets as she left a beauty parlor in Brazil. Her family said she had received a number of threatening calls and messages before answering a suspicious call from a courier with the package on May 20th. At first she refused to eat the chocolates.

Now check this out. Yeah. This is the I don't know who the creep is. The guy you sent chocolates or the ex-husband, but after her ex-husband jokingly said, hey, those are a gift from me. Good joke. She tried them and died. It's a pretty good joke from the ex-husband right there.

She said her eyes roll back and her arms contract. She's like, yeah, of course I sent you the chocolates. Baby, enjoy him. Happy birthday. Yeah, that was me. Wink. Whoops. She was taking the hospital in Rio de Janeiro on Saturday, where she was declared dead on

her rival. Her family believed that she was poisoned and police to have opened an investigation into were death. Yeah. So I also get threats through social media. And even if I didn't, I still probably wouldn't eat food that was sent to me.

But that's definitely a good reason not to. Church Ferguson called me out. You say that like you didn't eat something I gave you and Phil. Oh, busted. I love pizza and that doesn't come from a manufacturer. That's funny. Wink.

Okay. Batista added that Kerr, Halavalo's son had tried the chocolates as well, but spat them out say they tasted bad. Yeah, poison is not good taste. They don't make a good tasting poison. You know, back in the day, they used to have tasters for the king. Right. You would taste it, and that if they died, you know, then you know not to eat it.

But if they didn't die, then you would have your food. Your food would be a little cold, but, you know, at least you know you weren't going to be getting murdered. Right. This kid ate it first, spit it out, say they were tasty bad, and this lady still ate them. Yep. Well, you mentioned earlier that a guy sent these to her. Yeah. It wasn't a guy.

That is correct. Police are investigating the former partner of Caravello's current partner. We suspect that an ex of her current partner is the main suspect. And of course, a woman did this, mini, because only woman would know that every other woman cannot resist chocolate. Because, like, between you and me, and I normally wouldn't say something like this, but I think it's true, we get chocolate that comes to us, and it's not. sealed we go oh i'm not eating that but a woman goes yeah but it's chocolate i need my hands are tied here what could possibly be wrong with the chocolate i got i got to eat chocolate fucking idiots yeah the delivery driver pleads innocent saying they had no idea knew anything about

it this one was buried on may 22nd and no arrests have yet been made that delivery boy sounds awfully suspicious doesn't he a little bit he had to talk a lot about it had nothing to do with that and just so you know vini that homicide in rochester last night nothing to do with it I was not there. I don't know who those people are. I don't even know how I know about it. I was, I slept very well last night. Well, that's great to hear, Carl.

Yes. And, of course, I was with you all yesterday afternoon, correct? We were both hanging out together somewhere that we'll talk about later. Yep. If you need any details, you could get them through our lawyer's office. We'll provide it in writing. Fucking weird story. All right.

Carl, yes. Don't fuck with teenage girls. yeah I don't fuck with teenage girls literally figuratively you're talking to christalia you're talking to me I'm talking to everybody okay do that fuck with teenage girls they're a problem well don't fuck with their phones teenage girls are addicted to their phones and they will do anything if you take their phone away they will do anything to take it back did you see the video of that teenager in high school being the shut of her teacher

to get her phone back was a Nintendo switch no it was a fault there's there's that one too There was a phone that was more recent. Like, people go fucking crazy. It's like you're taking away their meth. They're very upset when you take away their phone. Well, yeah, because most of the programs that they use all day are designed to be insanely addictive. Correct. Now, a deadly dormitory fire that killed 19 students in Guyana was set by a fellow student after her cell phone was confiscated when her affair with an older man was revealed.

Oh, boy. Okay. The female suspect, who's 14 allegedly threatened to torch the wooden concrete building when her phone was taken away over the relationship with the gentleman. The girl who was injured in the blazes is expected to be released with the hospital this week. Oh, good. She survived. Great. Yeah.

Officials said the door was locked doors and grilled windows prevented most of the victims from escaping the fire. That's a horrific scene. Holy shit. So they just burned to death and could not get out. Correct. Wasn't there like a dorm mother or something then? Yes, there was. And the dorm mother, every night was very concerned that the girls were actually sneaking out.

Sure. And now they got a 14-year-old fucking an older guy that they know about. So they said she, quote, I locked the doors out of love for them. She said she was forced to do so because many of them leave the building at night to socialize. It's not safe out there outside the burning building. Yeah. They said, this is a very sad situation. But the state is going to work with the students and families provide all the support they need.

That's great. The state of Guyana. I'm sure it's really going to top-notch fix all this. I had never even heard of it, so who knows? The house mother was asleep at the time inside the building, but panic could not find the right keys to unlock the building from inside. But somehow she made it out. Yeah, and you know what?

There was a witness who heard her yelling so long suckers as she ran away from the building. Did she have that little? Yeah. How fucking insane is that? I think I have that somewhere. Please. That's her. There she goes.

I think it's insane that she's like fumbling for her keys or not. She's like, oh, shit, I got to let these people out. And then she's able to like unlock the door, get herself out. But then, oh, shit, I can't keep it unlocked for the others. It doesn't make sense to me. Now, in addition to charging the teen culvert police are expected to arrest the man she was in a relationship with for statutory rape. The police will now be seeking advice from the director of public prosecutions as the investigation continues. See, this is what happens.

This is one of the many reasons why you shouldn't fuck underage girls. They sometimes act immaturely. So you're banging this 14-year-old girl. She gets caught, gets mad, and wants to murder everyone and does. And now you're going to get in trouble. Yeah. And you had a dorm mother who just cares too much. That's her only crime.

Yeah, right. Don't send your kids of this shit. Are you kidding me? Dude, the amount of addiction over people's phones, we are all fucked. We're all fucked. It's not looking good. No. Carl.

Hold on a second. I think I'm getting a message over here. No, you go ahead, buddy. Okay. A church. A church of England priest who downloaded about 20,000 decent images of children and animals and admitted smoking crystal meth has been jailed for four years. So wait, we can't trust the priest now?

Apparently not. Jesus. What next? I bet you God was really disappointed in this guy. It doesn't say anything about meth in the Bible, but. It certainly. doesn't. Reverend David Renshaw, 63, told other pedophiles online that he was, quote, a sadistic bastard from your lips to God's ears, buddy. And I write and wrote, also wrote,

I love corrupting boys with drugs. Drugs are bad. You shouldn't do drugs. Yeah, Judge Christiane Henson told the priest, you are still unable to accept your criminality and sexual interest in children. Perhaps incarceration will help you realize you need treatment. Henshaw told Renshaw that the extreme nature of the images he downloaded the clear distress of the children being abused in the pictures were an aggravating factor in the case. So wait a second. He had videos of children's fucking and they weren't even enjoying it? Well, shame on you, sir.

Yeah, it's not like that Nambla softcore stuff they put in the magazine. Right, where the kids are loving, love it every minute of it. Now, Redshaw claimed he wouldn't have the time to download so many images. Okay. Come on. Sure. He said this is a quote. sermons don't write themselves.

And he has to give one every week. So, yeah, he's a busy guy. Yeah, he claimed that the messages he posted online to pedophiles, including discussions about abducted boys and plying them with drugs, which are just stories he told we're trying to counsel people. Okay. I'll give that to him. He also told the court that he sometimes smoked crystal math when he was bored and lonely.

Hold on, Vinny. this guy's telling the court that he's both gets bored and smokes meth and also it doesn't have the time to download images off the internet and he's going to jail which is shocking i bet his lawyers were the girls from the sheer true cry podcast probably he's so busy he's just too busy to download on this board terrible now the search of his address is one of the most revolting tests the officers ever had to endure according to the court they found malnourished living animals there was a dead rotting kitten and a dead red rotting kitten and a dead rotting rat in the floor in addition to use needles and other drug paraphernalia lying around. It was a deeply unpleasant seed to search. It was also particularly a harrowing experience for the officers who had to sift through and create each image.

Something that will quote stay with them for the rest of their lives. Okay. This is something I've been called out for before because we talk about this on the show and I'm like, 30,000 images. Who's the job is that to figure out how many images there are of journal port? And then I get people going, Carol, there's software that is able to view this and it knows what is and what's

not. Apparently not in England. I know. I of that over here, you had a guy who had a great each image. I guarantee the guy's just like, oh yeah, the computer that does that, that's down, unfortunately. I guess I'll do it. I'd run it through the computer, but it's been acting up all week. Where do we bring these boxes of child porn for review? I'll put him over there by Tim's desk.

Yeah, Tim will check out. The guy who's over there crying. Tim's best day of his life. Yeah, the guy who's got the blood coming out of his eyes. He's crying blood after the shit that he's seen. Oh, man. Following his conviction, further action, take it against him under the clergy discipline measure. Now, fun fact, the Times reported

in February that Renshaw's name remained on a Church of England register under trustworthy clergy members. Whoops. More than two years after he was suspended for the ministry. Updating websites is a huge hassle as you and I both know. Certainly is. You would think that the Church of England had a little bit more cash.

But, you know, obviously the Queen died. Yeah. There was probably a little bit of lapse. It probably wasn't a top priority for him. They have other pedophiles. files to hide and Trent had all the pedophiles that they were moving at the time they couldn't get to this guy with his dead cats

and dead dogs Vinny should we get caught up on some superchats I think a few have come through sure let's do that on our way out of town now Michael C wait didn't did we do that last the other one making it work yes okay worst scum parade theme ever

oh I like that one which one's the best one Michael C is it the wean cover I think people like the Ocean Man one I do too. Yeah. Happy Memorial Day. Remember, never vote for Vinny. Dayla!

Yeah, my boy. You're right about that. Those are our super chats. All right. People didn't get the memo that's Super Chat Monday or maybe they're all at the beach. I don't know.

Yeah, a lot of people are probably going to catch up with this episode a little bit later. I imagine they're at barbecues with people that love them and whatnot. What's that like? Fucked if I know. I'm here with you.

Now, folks, that's the end of our show. Remember to please go vote on Reddit our slash the creep off we're going to have a bonus episode for you this Wednesday coming up for you Supercast Patreon and back.comby supporters we appreciate your help if you support the show you get some cool merch and also a free bonus episode every single week all right so I did have a programming note yeah I figured I'd go over with you on the air oh god here we go a week from today now you and I've been talking about doing episodes from time to time where we don't have a competition yeah a week from today I will be traveling I will be I'll be joining you on the show but I will be remote okay and I will be very busy with my travels so let's do this everybody's busy today well a week from today I will be so let's do this let's do a Nancy Grace deep dive and a scum parade and forego the competition part because that is the the most time consuming part of the creep off for me I'm not going to be able to get to it

are you cool with that you're looking to me like i'm being an asshole i could have just said i can't make it next week i'm doing everything i can to be on the show with you buddy i have a lot of work to do well what am i supposed to say to you carl what am i supposed to say that's why i'm saying it on the air so you say yes am i supposed to just agree right away are i supposed to make you twist and feel uncomfortable for a minute we're still going to do a creep off we're still going to have a fun episode i'm actually enjoying watching you right now so i'm just going to sit here and smile at you for a second i can't make it next week Get Eric Zane

Call Eric Zane Oh fuck It's fine I'm just teasing you dude Relax Such a fucking I don't know what to say to you I didn't think it was that big of a deal

And then you're making it out Like there's a lot going out Yeah you were just kind of sitting there uncomfortable So I thought I let it hang Turn first This says I have to I have to test drive those jet skis Hey ladies and gentlemen

Next week on the creep off I'm the Carle Network It'll be 100% Carl free. Coming up next Monday. All right, Carl, I'll see you sometime this week. I'll see you on Wednesday. We'll figure out Monday. It's fine.

I just did. I just did figure out Monday. No, I'll figure it out. You fucker. Go figure it all out later. Don't worry about it. All right. All right.

It's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Gagia. Fuck you. Okay to blame it on something Yeah Cocaid is a hell of a hell of a drug Cocaid is a hell of a drug

Victor Victor Thank you.