The Creep Off - Episode 182: Have a Take, Don't Suck!
Episode Date: September 11, 2023Today Karl & Vinnie make their nominations for biggest creep in the MotorCity of Detroit: in this edition of WATC we listen to a true crime show that claims if you don’t love their show..., you don’t love America: This week’s Scum Parade we meet a woman with a party in her pants, a horny Doctor, and a meet a man who left a butt voicemail.The score is currently Vinnie 4- Karl 2, visit thecreepoff.com to vote and decide this week’s winnerCheck out the Scum Parade stories: Indiana woman allegedly hides drugs in private parts, fakes heart attack when police grow suspicious (yahoo.com)College professor with clown fetish' asked to paint students' faces for cash, extra credit (nypost.com)Balding bloke, 31, with bushy beard 'posed as school student to have sex with teen girl' - Daily StarClay County man who recorded murder on voicemail sentenced to 85 years (mywabashvalley.com)Want to support the show? Find us on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to get exclusive merch an extra bonus episode every week!
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Warning, listening to the creep off might leave you triggered.
This episode may contain murder, rape, laughing at murder and rape, ableism,
Lenny Dykstra, serial keeters, smile talking, fat shaming, child abuse, drug abuse,
pizza abuse, victim blaming, and the state of Florida.
I'm going to give the people what they want.
Sensation. Horror, shock.
I'm gonna deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down.
Cuckoo, cuckoo!
Hello, Detroit, you've won my heart.
Disgusting, vomit-inducing thing.
Ola creepos, welcome to another edition of your favorite true cry podcast,
the show about creeps, by creeps for you creeps.
I'm your host.
My name is, Vinny, and joining me in studio.
There he is, ladies and gentlemen.
Look at him.
Look at that monster.
It's Carl.
Oh, I thought you're talking about.
Jessica. That's going to be very rude of you. What is happening, Vinnie Paulino? Good to see you,
buddy. I'm great, pal. Happy Monday. Happy Monday. If football season's back, and we tend to hijack
the start of the show whenever this happens. What a game for the Dolphins yesterday. That was a fun
one. And I don't know if you checked the Fantasy League that we're both in. Oh, I'm losing
hard. But I have the most points so far this weekend. And thanks to Tyree Kill for getting me
39 points. And, of course, Dallas's defense for running all over, stuttering John's New York
giants last night fantastic well we're both living our best lives are we sure are buddy okay well carl it's
another episode of the creep off i'm excited to have you guys on here this is the show that we talk
about creeps and we have a little bit of a competition we do now in order to uh award points
and the points are awarded by uh presentation whoever did better last week in your votes we have to
hear the results from last week's poll and to bring us those it's our good pal jessica hello
Hey, Jess.
How are you guys?
I'm fantastic.
How are you doing, Jess?
I'm fantastic.
The Eagles won against the Patriots yesterday, and my dad's not happy with it.
I love it.
My dad was at the game.
Oh, was it?
Your dad went to a Patriots fan.
Did your dad cheer when they brought Tom Brady at halftime?
He cried.
Oh, he cried.
Oh, my God.
He raised a Jeff Dunham fan, and he's crying.
So we're looking for Tom Brady.
review girls if your dad's not a patriots fan you can apply if your dad isn't a pussy right i'm an
eagle's fan all right good i don't know if that's right in your term it is compared to the patriots yes
it's it's 100% right yes good job there's no wrong when it comes to not picking the patriots
what's the good news you got for us today jessica what's going on well the score was 163 to 106 and the winner
was Vinnie.
Listen, everybody wants to shoot people at their job, Carl.
Everyone wants to do that.
Right.
Not everyone wants to have their asshole licked out by a dog at a public restop.
Not everyone gets to shoot up people at their job, though.
That's going above and beyond.
That's true.
It was a competition.
If I'm doing the review, I'm saying, look at, we gave you what you were supposed to do
for your work duties and you went above and beyond.
That's what I would have.
I forgot a vote last week.
I would have voted for Amy Bishop,
mainly because she's just terrible.
All right.
Whose team are you on?
She's on.
Neither.
I've seen a lot of reports about Amy Bishop.
She looks like Lord Farquot from Shrek.
Yes.
Maybe you should have led with that, Carl.
Not an attractive lady.
Next time I'll consult with Jessica on how to present my creed.
She is not attractive.
So Vinny wins this week.
I forgot to vote this week.
So that's.
Vinny wins this week, which means the score is now four to two,
which means we are playing with game point right here.
Fuck, yeah.
I will have to spin the dreaded wheel of consequences.
And I do want to hear Jess if there's any reviews or anything,
but real quick, Vinny.
Yeah.
Because the football season is now officially underway.
What do we decide as far as my consequence when I am going to the Dolphins game
when they come to Orchard Park, New York?
We haven't decided yet.
Okay.
That's why I'm asking you.
So, all right.
Am I buying it to a jersey?
I might even let you get away with wearing a Tyree Kilgers
because I think that'll piss people off more.
All right.
That's kind of fun.
Was Tyree killed the guy who hit his kid with a switch?
No, that was Adrian Peterson.
Oh, what did Tyree Kill do?
He slapped an old man in the back of the head accidentally while fighting in a marina.
Okay, that's fun, too.
Yeah.
I mean, elder abuse is always funny.
Yep.
So he's a jokester.
So, Jess, what do you got for us?
The top one we have is, I'm a.
fan of Chad said this is a tough
one. Carl brought a woman who won't
shut the fuck up about the fact that
she went to Harvard and Vinnie's creep
voted for Hillary Clinton. An excellent
showing by both gentlemen, but I think
I'll have to go with Carl on
this one. All right. That is a
smart person right there, even though they are
a fan of Chad. I don't know about that.
So I think Vinnie's being distracted by a dog
in the studio right now? No, I have
to sign for something. I don't know.
Oh, is that what it is. I swear to God,
it sounded like there was a dog running around.
The way that you're reacting.
Oh, no.
I guess we're the only people in the building right now.
No, there's us and this guy.
Thank you, brother.
Have a good one.
All right.
Say what you want about my studio.
I've never wanted to stop my podcast aside for something in the middle of a show.
Just throwing that out there.
Yeah, it was a little different.
Never happened.
That's a new one to me, too.
That was weird.
Sorry, the people downstairs are just, they were so quiet.
Maybe that's why I think I'm hearing a dog.
You're right, Jess.
Hey, Jess.
It's me.
Okay.
I got a joke for you.
Knock, knock.
Who's there?
The people in your fucking kitchen.
Shut them up.
Yeah, they're knocking a lot.
All right.
We'll see you later.
Just have a good week.
Oh, goodness.
You know what's the great thing about getting your kitchen remodel is that happens just like that.
So I'm sure by next week, there'll be no more distractions or noise.
Yep.
Yeah, they won't need to saw anything next week.
Yeah, no, I'll be fine.
Cool.
So I guess that means I'm on game.
point. I won, so I have to go first.
At this week's category, in honor of our
trip to the Motor City,
we are going to be making our nominations
for the biggest creep from Detroit.
Correct. Let's get it started.
Carl, Carl, Carl,
I didn't have to look far.
I didn't have to look far. There's a certain
Google word that I always like to use.
Oh, yeah. Do you want to reveal that?
There's always a certain word of Google I like to use.
Is it a kid dash toucher?
No, no. It's Detroit.
slash cannibal.
Okay.
So here we go, kids.
There's your warding.
All right, here we go.
Just about four years ago today, September 17th, 2019, around 1.30 a.m.
The police were called to the Lake Village apartments at Rochester Hills.
Now, Carl, have you ever been to Rochester Hills?
I have not.
I believe that's where podcast Hitman resided, right?
Or right around there.
It's right around.
It's a suburb of Detroit.
Very nice area.
Sure.
It's a nice area.
And in this apartment complex, this man heard two women fighting above him.
so he called the police
that's what I said too
yeah so the divas
when the police showed up
they knocked on the door and they could hear
moaning and calling for help
deputies entered through an unlocked
door and reached the master bedroom
where they found my creep today
and my creep today
ladies and gentlemen
oh I better have it here I'm going to be mad
at myself it's a lady
yeah I knew that her name
is Allison Weaver
and Allison Weaver
was completely naked, covered in blood.
And an unnamed woman who has been unnamed through all of this,
the police kept her identity.
My favorite type of woman, by the way.
Though, she had a lot to say, though.
We just don't know her name.
Okay.
This other woman was naked, bleeding everywhere,
laying on the floor in front of the bed.
So wait a second.
When they thought they were going to be scissoring,
did they actually bring scissors into this?
Because that seems like they did it wrong.
No, Carl, it's way worse than that.
Okay.
When the police saw this, they literally walked in and were,
because there's a lot of blood.
And this woman was on the bed on all fours making animal noises.
Okay.
The cops had to try to catch her.
And now she's covered in blood.
And she's just fucking running around.
Making dog noises.
So this isn't someone who got their period and forgot to bring a pad with them.
To the Lesbo Orgy, that's that what this was?
No, once they captured it and caught her down,
she was sweet as could be, Alison Weaver.
She said that they were having consensual sex.
Right.
And that they were role-playing.
My second favorite kind of sex.
It's up there.
Top five.
You know what?
I may be old-fashioned, but it's still my favorite.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Still my favorite.
But they calm this woman down.
She's covered in blood.
She's running around like an animal.
Yeah.
And she explains it's consensual sex at the role played.
She is the wolf and the half-dead woman on the floor is a vampire.
Wow.
Listen, I know something about vampires.
They don't die that easy.
She'll be fine.
Well, when the police looked at her, they realized that her face has been like eaten and gnawed off.
That's what wolves will do.
Yeah.
Her hair is missing.
Yep.
Most of her cheek by her mouth is missing.
And this woman has bite marks all over her.
body down to her vagina.
Can I just make a prediction? I haven't looked at this case.
I don't know anything about it.
Yeah.
Is crystal meth involved in any way, shape, or form?
No.
No.
Surprise.
All right.
Keep going on.
Now, no one knows what's going on because this woman was in shock.
They're just going with the story that they were having consensual,
fucked up sex at the moment.
They're not going with the story.
The one woman who's alive is going with that story.
Correct.
Correct.
The other woman might have disagreed.
Well, it took a little while for her to come too, Carl.
Now, let's watch a little video here.
This is some news.
And by the way, Carl, I'm showing this clip because this is some world-class victim-blaming.
If I've ever heard one.
Sweet, I'm ready for it.
The more they learn, this is what they find out.
I'm standing outside Lake Village of Rochester Hills.
It is a secure apartment complex.
You can see there's a no trespassing sign.
It's gated.
If you're not supposed to be here, you're not supposed to be able to come here.
But the Oakland County Sheriff's Office says it is who one resident invited.
that led to trouble
What you think was going to happen
What you think was going to happen to what you think was going to happen with your chair
Now you're going out half-paker with your ass bear
Now you're wanting to listen to be in the electric chair
Give it a blame, give it to blame now
Give it the blame, give it to blame now
Give it the blame, give it the blame now
How did you not think this was going to happen
Now, Carl, what we learned
I love, by the way, I love that we have so many victim-blaming songs
You and I both triggered different songs.
Yeah, I was going to that clip.
I apologize for stepping on you there.
No problem.
It's all good.
I step on you all the time.
We're totally good, pal.
And it hurts way more.
Yeah.
I'm amazed you can still feel with those hoofs.
So these people are completely shocked.
They don't know what's going on.
All they know is that this apartment complex is this other woman is not supposed to be there.
And it turned out that that was the case.
This woman was friends.
with Allison Weaver, the psycho pussy monster dog lady.
Friends with benefits, I would say.
Well, no, Kyle.
More than just friends.
Because when she came to the next day and she gave.
Oh, she did come to.
I thought you said she was dead.
No, almost dead.
Oh, okay.
She was a vampire.
It took days.
It took days before she came out of like woke up from how much blood she lost.
Okay.
And she explained that she had moved into her new apartment and invited her old neighbor to come over.
and hang out for the night.
And they were drinking and watching movies.
So they were just hanging out drinking.
And Allison is just there for the evening.
That's it.
Sure.
Netflix and chill.
Netflix?
Wow.
No, no, Carl.
Just there to watch movies and drink.
The victim says, hey, listen, I'm going to go to bed.
And Allison says, oh, thanks for having me over.
Walks over.
It gives her a big hug.
And then open mouth kisses her.
Okay.
It's getting hot.
The victim here didn't go for that type of shenanigan.
Oh, come on.
That's what she claims.
She says, hey, listen, I, I'm not into that.
Thank you, though.
I appreciate it.
Not for me.
Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch.
I'm going to go to bed.
So she goes to bed, and around 1 o'clock in the morning, she woke up, and Allison was on her bed completely naked on all fours doing the dog act.
Yeah, Allison, let's go.
Get it home.
I feel as you play some Marvin Gay or something right now.
I feel like it's sexy time in this story.
So she says she was standing there at all fours giving me a really scary look.
I said, Allison, Allison, what are you doing?
She just kept giving me a look and her head kept going back and forth.
And I said, what are you doing?
Like this woman is petrified.
She has no idea what's happening right now.
And then she said she just lunged at me and started strangling me.
As she's slipping in and out of consciousness, she says she knew she could recall that she was in danger,
but she didn't really understand what was happening.
and she says she could hear her whispering in her ear
Allison whispering, you have to die tonight.
She's Louise.
Yeah.
She's just bagged, she says.
I said, I'll do anything you want.
And she laughed and said, it's too late.
And then started making animal noises and strangling me and biting me all over my body.
This episode could be hard to listen to.
She said she saw her loved ones flashed before her eyes.
And this woman, I'm telling you, was on death's door with the amount of blood she lost just from bites from this woman.
So you're saying she wasn't into it.
Is that what you're trying to tell me, Vinny?
100% say she wasn't into it, Carl.
Would you like to see a picture of her?
Yes.
Before or after she was eaten alive.
This is the mugshot of Allison.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Now, who does she look like to you, Carl?
She looks like Tony Sopranos sister.
Dude, you see a little Bukaki queen in there?
Oh, a little.
be cute sure you see a little bit cocky queen of that i could see that so this is what she looked like
what she got her mugshot taken okay and they cleaned her up she also she her hair kind of looks
like that guy who shot up the movie theater oh yeah she kind of got that thing going for her too
yeah she's she doesn't have a lot going for other than the fact that she's a monster but carl this
poor woman says she would the next thing she knows she wakes up in the hospital and
you know she was thrilled to be alive sure now when she they went this thing went to court right
my favorite imagine yeah well her preliminary arraignment okay alison weaver's argument as to why
she should be let go on bail was quite wonderful and really terrified she was really into it they were
role playing yeah and she was doing a very good job no she says listen just give me the GPS tether
because i'm a single mom and i got to take care of my kid oh okay so she thinks she's just gonna be
let off with a warning.
Yeah.
All right,
here's your slap by the wrist.
Yeah.
See you in 18 months.
Yeah.
Well,
long story short,
ladies and gentlemen,
Allison Weaver,
10 to 15 years in prison.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Poor Allison.
I laughed really hard at the fact
they were interviewing the news,
those victim blaming people.
Yeah.
We're interviewing residents
to the apartment complex.
I'll show you this.
I pulled it and it's funny.
These people are so stuck up,
Carl.
Pretty shocking.
I think we were all kind of like this happening in this apartment complex.
It's kind of a nicer one.
It seemed like they got a little wild there.
It's a fucking apartment complex.
It's not a gated community.
This is the same thing that's notary, John, he calls his apartment complex a gated community.
No, it just means you're in a shitty neighborhood.
Dude, I love the end of this.
It sounds like they got a little wild over there, huh?
It's fucking people are so impressed themselves.
Hey, here's April Macy's sister.
You know, you think when you pay $9.50 a month for a place,
you'd be living with some good neighbors nearby.
1250 plus utilities.
I've never seen anything happen.
This apartment complex is always really quiet.
I've never even had noise problems with the neighbors,
let alone someone getting attacked and bitten.
She's so happy to be on TV.
I love the news.
She's so happy to be on TV.
What happened to my neighbor?
Oh, she almost died.
Hi, mom.
Hi, dad.
I'm on TV.
Hi, Allison's lawyer.
I don't know what to say to that.
So that's my creep this week.
Allison Weaver.
She's gross and crazy.
I love it.
And she tried to choose.
Someone's face off.
It almost killed them.
Before we go any further,
I think we should get into some superchats.
Let's set them up.
Yay, Superchats.
Alex Mekono with two bucks as John has hotties on every coast.
Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah, he does.
He's pimping.
Pimp on a blimp on a blimp.
Cream pie, 69, five bucks.
Friendly reminder,
Butane deol one four is legal in the USA.
I also vote for the creepiest creep.
Oh, man.
Did we just give out some type of weird, insane?
Okay.
Probably.
Cool.
Great.
Brock Rhee with $5.
Thanks for booking the Detroit show on a holiday German boy.
What holiday is that?
Apparently it's like Rosh Hashanah or something.
Can you still go to comedy shows at Rosh Hashanah?
I don't know how that works.
Hopefully you can.
If you're cool, you can.
Well, I would imagine.
Dang Lizard coming in.
Here comes the money.
Here we go.
Thanks for the super chat.
Dang Lizard is another hero supporting the show that would also help feed Carl.
Cat in Florida
Dang lizard 10 euros
Vinny has no business talking about people's diet
Hashtag Vinny Spinning the People's Fat
Motherfucker, I know diets
He quits them all the time
Yeah, man
He's way up on that
Hey, it's our buddy Ray DeVito
Coming with $5, see you punks in Detroit
Go Browns, one and oh
Can I just tell you
Joe Burrow is my QB on both of my fantasy teams
And I have to be a little bit nervous about that
After what the Browns did to him, holy shit
How do you think I feel?
I have Javar Chase and fucking Joe Mixon.
Everyone got shut down to that offense.
They could do nothing against the Browns.
I think the Browns are the new steel curtain.
What is going out over there?
Congratulations, Ray, on the big win.
The Brown curtain.
You know, the Cleveland Browns have what they call the pink blanket defense.
That's right.
The pink blanket comforter.
You can't get past it.
Nim Rob, $7.1.25 bucks.
Fuck, yeah.
I want to jingle.
Well, that's not the right show.
But you know what?
I'll do it anyway.
On this show, you give $25 or more, you will get a custom jingle.
So Nimrob 71, look for that coming out in the mail soon.
Yeah, check your mailbox for your custom jingles.
Your custom jing.
I'm kidding, of course.
Next time you're super chat, and we have that ready to go.
We will hit your own custom jingle for your super chat.
Thank you guys for the support.
It is now my term to present my creep.
And the creepiest creep in Detroit, I have a couple, a white trash couple,
27-year-old couple, just raising some children, as couples ought to do when they're in their 20s.
Here's the news story on it.
Breaking news from Detroit, where two parents are charged with murdering their 5-year-old son and abusing their 3-year-old son.
Our Jacqueline Francis joins us now live outside of the courthouse in downtown Detroit.
We're both just appeared in court.
Jacqueline, there are some very disturbing details in this case.
Karen, incredibly disturbing.
These parents are accused of repeatedly beating their children and exposing them to unthinkable living conditions.
This here is a picture of five-year-old Ethan Belcher.
The young Detroit boy was killed over the weekend.
Ethan's mom and stepdad are charged with murder, child abuse, and torture in his death.
The couple, Shane Shelton and Valeria Hamilton, both 27, were arrested Sunday after Detroit police were called to the home on Detroit's east side.
Hamilton's three-year-old son was taken to the hospital after police found him with serious injuries.
as well. And as if this all wasn't hard enough to wrap your mind around, the aunts of the little boy
who died tells me that she reported this abuse one year ago to authorities. An investigation was
opened, but ultimately those kids ended up back at their home. And now she wants to know how this
could have happened. We're going to hear from her coming up at 5 o'clock. In the meantime, the couple
remains behind bars without bond. So this is a crazy case. You have Shane Robert Shelton,
and he's living with his girlfriend and her kids.
That's Valerie Lynn Hamilton.
Prosecuting attorney Matthew Makepeace.
Yes, that's right.
The attorney's name is Makepeace.
Told the court that Ethan had loop-shaped abrasions covering his body,
indicating that he had been beaten with a cord-like object.
The prosecutor also said the child had been suffering from gangrene on one of his toes
that the other children living in the house told investigators that sheltered,
you hear that other children living in the house,
told the investigators that Shelton,
and the Hamilton regularly beat Ethan
and his brother, they would also lock
the two in the basement, which was
ranked with feces and sewage.
They're living in a kind of shitty neighborhood
in Detroit. Picture Syracuse.
Yeah, it sounds like it's their fault. Yeah.
It most certainly is.
But they showed the photo of this house.
It looks like an abandoned house that they're living
with all these children. And so there's just
sewage and feces all over in the basement. They're just
locking them down there.
As
Make Peace. Show the court text messages between
Shelton and Hamilton, one from
Shelton saying, beat the dog shit
out of that fucker, referring to one of the two boys.
Well, what do you do?
Hamilton at one point allegedly
wrote that she was going to slam
their kids so hard, their heads
will pop off. So now
we heard it in that news story about
Ethan's aunt. So this
is Valerie's sister, Ashley
Belcher. And she reported
the abuse of CPS last
year, but the boys remained with the parents
following an investigation. At that time,
she said he had over 100 cigarette burns on his body she said that Ethan and his younger brother
were abused numerous times in front of the other five children who lived in the home well when
I was a kid I didn't have any so I don't know what they're complaining about yeah yeah a hundred
I had zero yeah fucking five so there's seven children they're just abusing these two a three-year-old
a five-year-old so this is crazy this is a quote from over a year ago when she reported this
She told authorities that he has over 100 cigarette burns on his body.
He had frost-bitten feet, and he was missing a toe that was never taken care of.
This was reported to CPS.
Ethan had bruises from head to toe.
His head was all lumped up.
I mean, his eye was almost split open.
The bruises were so bad on his bottom.
He couldn't even sit down.
To be fair, the father did say if they found the toe, they would have taken care of it.
Right.
But, you know, it was missing.
They weren't looking for it like it was John Wayne Bobbitt's piece.
What am I supposed to dig through the sewage of the basement?
Good point.
Looking for one toe.
Good point.
Come on.
Come on, CPS, get real.
So this crime, which went down, by the way, in January of this year, they still have not
been prosecuted for this yet, but I'm sure they'll be facing a very harsh penalty for
murdering their five-year-old and torturing their three-year-old and torturing both
of them.
So this was such a crazy case in Detroit that it's changing the way that they're handling
the oversight of CPS.
So the lawmakers are actually changing the law.
and making it so that the state can't step in and stop FOIA requests
and actually have to go in and see if they're following through with these investigations
because the aunt warned him over a year ago and then up murdering their kid.
So that did not go well.
The aunt is very outspoken about this.
She's a little annoyed with Detroit and the state of Michigan.
Yeah, I would imagine.
Yeah.
But, you know, Detroit did have some other issues going on.
Did they?
Yeah, lots of murders.
There's a few murders, and apparently the big three have a whole strike on their hands right now with the UAW, so they're going to have some issues in Detroit.
But you know what's going to be great in Detroit is you and me and Ray DeVito at the Magic Bag this Friday the 15th.
I'm not familiar with who that is.
He's the guy who just super chat with us, which is why I included him in that.
Thanks for the super chat.
Thanks, Ray.
Ray DeVito.
Who's going to be at the comedy club this weekend?
Joe DeVito.
I know, and I was so bummed because I met Joe DeVito,
Chrissy's wedding, and he was going to come over and do WATP.
But I have to go out and be going to college football games and doing shows.
So I'm going to miss it.
A little bummed about that.
I am very excited.
I'm going to have him on the Carlson cast probably tomorrow morning.
Nice.
Very cool.
Well, tell him I said hi.
Give my regards.
We'll do.
We'll do.
So that's your creep, huh?
That is my creep.
And you'd be crazy not to vote on the creepoff.com for Cardle and Shane Robert Shelton and Valerie Lynn Hamilton for murdering and torturing their children.
All right.
Well, like Carl said, go to the creepoff.com and make sure to register your vote.
I would highly suggest you vote for the cannibal, but that's just me.
That is just many.
He's the only one who thinks that.
Yeah.
I will say.
It's just a woman who got passionate.
She got a little passionate.
By the way, if you do vote for me this week, which is the right.
thing to do car we'll be spinning the wheel uh when we get back from detroit at some point yeah we're
not sure if we're doing the show monday because you're not sure when you're going to get back my in-laws
are coming into town that day say no more yeah i mean so you want to do an extended episode so i'll be here
i was gonna say do you want to just like record all day 24 hour log group off scum stream yeah all right
i went on um uncle riko show last night i saw a little bit of it i said hello yeah yeah i saw you in
there and uh and then we went behind the pay wall and we did another episode i was on for like four
hours with those guys last night. It was a marathon. Wow. Suttering John's been up to a lot,
though. So how's he doing? There was a lot to talk about. How's he doing? He's in Vegas
with his girlfriend and her kids, and he's posting photos of it, which seems like a bad idea,
but what do I know? What do I know about posting stuff on the internet? Only a little bit more
than Suttering John. Actually, did you hear my phone ring in the middle of this? No. That was him.
Was it John? Is he watching us right now? I don't know. What does he call to you about?
So you want to congratulate you on the big victory for the Dolphins?
Does he need?
I hope so.
He needs someone to console him because of the Giants' debacle.
What is he looking for?
Well, I know he has Daniel Jones as his quarterback.
I know he's actually too thrilled about that.
You know he does.
Yeah.
All right.
He's not going to be thrilled about that.
All right.
So I do have who are these creep balls.
Let's just hit these super chats real quick.
A couple just came in because I want to talk to our buddy Lockheed.
Lockheed McDonald, who created our wheel of consequences.
You can see right there behind.
Yeah, Vinnie Paulino.
Let's put it into action next week, everybody.
This guy is awesome.
Hello, boys.
Finally catching a live show.
Vin, I didn't forget about you.
I've been super busy.
I'll get you those pictures.
ASAP.
Yeah.
Is he talking about CP?
What kind of pictures are we talking about?
How dare you?
Well, I mean, he's being very vague.
Something like that.
He's being purposely vague about these pictures.
Do you know how he made us this wheel?
Yes, I do.
Yeah.
It's fantastic.
He made a creep off sign.
Ooh.
A really cool creep off sign.
And it's supposedly very, very cool.
And he said he was in the same.
send me some previews as he's working on it.
And, uh, yeah, that's all.
Awesome.
Not CP.
Love you, Locky.
It's not CP.
I know.
It's definitely not CP.
I'm teasing.
Lockie's a good guy.
He does good work for, uh, for the shows that he enjoys.
And then, uh, we got radish diff with 25 euros.
Well, that's pretty exciting.
That deserves something, right?
Yay.
Super chats.
Raddish tips seem silly enough.
Get me one of those and please send it to William.
Lonely Esquire.
Ah, Bill Lonely.
It's Bill Lonely.
Bill Lonely.
Bill Lonely.
Bill Rodry.
Kind of funnier.
Kind of funnier.
Okay, so Radish Div is also requesting a personalized jingle.
I hope someone's writing this down for me.
I will not.
Not even a little bit.
So is it tied for who are these creepos?
Yeah, last week I took a week off, but we're going to get right back to it today.
Creepos.
This is the segment of the show where we break down.
other true crime podcasts because we want to make sure we're doing a good job we want to make sure
that we're the best true crime podcast out there outside of a certain scale and so what i do is i
regularly monitor the other true crime shows just to see is someone better than us is someone doing a
good job we need to pay attention to this and improve on ourselves and what i've learned is no
we are perfect in every single way no one's doing a better job and today's no exception we have a
show called True Crime in the 50.
Hey there, true crime fans. I'm Katie O'Cardo, and this is True Crime in the 50, a podcast
where I take a look at the craziest, most disturbing, and realest crimes from each of the 50
states. We'll talk about the homicides, serial killers, disappearances, and frauds that
rocked each and every state across this country. I have two problems with that introduction.
First off, Katie. She says,
the craziest most disturbing and realist crimes
Is that
Anyone ever explained a crime
The realist crime to you before
There's fake crimes
And then there's real crimes
And then there's the realist crimes
Is it the realist crime
The kind of crime that's committed
Like when you're in the right
And you're keeping it real
Is that what it is?
Yeah
I don't know
Like somebody parked in a handicapped space
So you like stab them in the neck
Right
Yeah that's the realest crimes
Yeah
Guys just keeping it real
What was that was that the
Chappelle show.
They had tales of keeping it real.
Yes. Absolutely.
But keeping it real goes wrong.
Keep it real goes wrong.
That's right.
The other thing she says in there is that they're going to be covering homicides, serial
killers, disappearances, and frauds.
You've got to build up.
You can't build down.
Yeah.
Start with the fraud, stupid.
Yeah.
Well, what were you talking about serial killers and people who are fraudulent in their actions?
Okay.
This man has worn other men's faces on his head.
and this guy
robbed a bunch of old lady
Yeah
He got her
Took advantage of social security system
Yeah
I got them each to mail
Two dollars in the mail
Yeah
Doddly free
Every two weeks
In the description of the show
Every two weeks
I'll take a look at the most
Unbelievable murders
Serial killers
and disappearances
That took place in all 50 states
From Alabama to Wyoming
If you love true crime
And America
You won't want to miss this
Do you feel safe in your state?
Okay
So this is the gimmick here.
It's true crime in the 50.
What she's doing is she's going alphabetically through the states
and telling a story of true crime from each state.
Didn't we do that kind of?
We've kind of done that.
Not in alphabetical order or anything dumb like that.
We've chosen states as, you know, a category state city, sure.
What's dumb about this?
There's a lot of things.
I love this.
She says, if you love America, you've got to listen to the show.
This would probably be the opposite of somebody who loved America
that they'd want to hear about great things that we've done.
It's been a while, but, you know, we go back 100 years or so.
There were some cool things we did.
Dropping bombs on, not even 100 years ago, dropping bombs on Japan.
Yeah, man, that's just rule in the box office.
We love reliving that.
That was the realist right there.
We were keeping it fucking real.
We were dropping the A-bombs over there.
So the other thing here is, she says, do you feel safe in your state?
I feel safe in my house, but Vinny, a mile north of where I live, I would not feel very safe.
A state is a very large area, which has a lot of different towns and cities and rural areas.
Like, what do you mean do you feel safe with your state?
Yeah, no one in Indiana feels safe because of Gary.
Because of Gary, which is possibly 500 miles north of where you live in Indiana.
Yeah.
Doesn't make any fucking sense.
It's really stupid.
I guess what I'm saying is the premise is not great.
And it starts off.
So the episode I listened to was Maine, the great state of Maine.
And this is a fun way to start a true crime.
podcast many our next state is main and here are some fun facts about the great state of
Maine Maine is the 12th smallest state in the country okay she literally for five minutes
goes through nonsense trivial information about the state of Maine I guess this is the part where
if you love America you'll love this show because you get to hear about a little bit of
history before we get to the race it's not even history and she says she goes
It's the 11th smallest state, and it'd be the same size as Portugal.
And I'm like, is that landmass?
Is that population?
I don't even know what she's talking about.
I have no idea.
So I've never been to Maine.
Have you ever been to Maine, Vinnie?
You know that I haven't, Carl?
I don't know.
Okay, I haven't.
I've never been to Maine.
But she does make a compelling argument on why we might want to at least visit if not move there.
Many of you may not be shocked to find that Maine is the most Caucasian of the states.
94.4% of its residents are of European descent.
Sounds nice.
Sounds pretty good.
Well, it sounds like a fair land.
It does.
It certainly does.
It sounds like America.
It's a mega country.
All right.
And then listen to this last fun fact.
Remember, this goes out for five minutes.
You're just saying all these ridiculous things that no one cares about.
And finally, to round out the very random,
category, Maine's marijuana sales doubled in the year 2002.
Hey.
So there you go.
So everyone's high.
Great.
Marijuana sales doubled in the year of 2002.
And I went, what?
Why would that be the case?
And how would they know that?
Because it's very difficult to understand how sales increase year over year when you're
talking about any legal substance like marijuana was in 2002.
I have a bigger question.
I have a bigger question.
Okay.
Why is that a fact that we need to read?
The marijuana sales from 21 years ago.
Right.
Like I said, totally random shit.
But I'm like, that doesn't make sense.
I looked it up.
It was 2022 because they started selling it legally in the state in 2020.
Oh, so they were actually able to measure sales from 2021 to 2022.
And for some reason, it doubled.
And this is an important part of this story.
It's not.
It's not at all.
And this is the other thing she does.
And a lot of true crime shows do this
And it really annoys the hell out of me
I don't think you can put links in the chat
Can you have any?
What are you trying to do over there?
Now you're distracting me.
Oh, me, nothing.
What do you up to over there?
I see you trying to paste Patreon links.
Well, just wait.
Okay.
All right.
You back with me now, buddy?
I was with you the whole time.
Okay.
All right.
So one of the things that she does,
I think a lot of people do this
is they research a topic.
And then when they're presenting it,
You used to do this quite a bit on the show.
They give you all these unimportant facts that nobody needs or cares about just because they researched it and they have it.
Trista lived in Portland, Maine, most of the time with Ayla, and Justin lived with his mother, Phoebe, and his sister, Alicia, and Waterbill, some 75 miles away.
Oh, 75 miles.
Her delivery is atrocious.
So this is the disappearance of Ayla Reynolds, a 20-month-old girl who disappeared back in 2000.
In 2010 in the state of Maine.
Always fun to talk about a disappearance.
Are you sure it wasn't 2020?
It could have been.
It's just wrong with the dating.
She's not good with dates.
So who knows?
Now, what you're hearing so far is she's written out a bunch of facts.
She's researched a bunch of nonsense.
She's reading it.
Her delivery is atrocious.
Finally, though, I want to present.
She does have some commentary.
Because that's the thing about being a true crime podcaster.
You have to be an authority on the subject.
Offer your take on things.
Have a take.
Don't suck.
Yes.
That's what makes it unique.
It's why people who might want to listen to your show
and not just read about it on Wikipedia.
Justin would give some half-assed made-up answer
like she was playing with the other kids
or that she had the bruises from a ball pit
she was playing in at Chuckie Cheese.
First of all, what 20-month-old plays in those ballpits,
yeah, no, those are dangerous to older kids.
I remember those used to hurt like hell.
and 20 months old, no way.
Ew, you baby.
You baby!
The Chucky Cheeseballs hurt this woman?
The ball pit hurts like hell.
Then why are children in it?
If it hurts like, it's not a torture device.
It's a fun play thing.
What is she talking about?
I was never threatened with the fucking ball pit of Chuckie cheese as a child.
What is she talking about with that?
That is dumb.
That's some dumb nonsense right there.
She's dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.
All right, well, I got good news for you.
Okay.
More commentary.
Trista documented all of these things and even sent a report to social services herself.
But social services did nothing.
Cool.
Cool, cool.
Is this Chris Hansen's sister?
Like, listen to that delivery.
Would you have a seat over there?
It's, by the way, this is her biting sarcasm that you can,
could only expect from Katie O'Cardo just yeah and then so serves it nothing cool cool real good social
services dunked out of I really have a theme going today don't I all right we're going to get a peek
behind the curtains here because what I like to do sometimes is I like to listen to a podcaster
that explains what they're doing to create the podcast that you're hearing and sometimes they
explain it in real time like in this example Justin and his girlfriend stayed in the partially
finished basement where Justin had his sleeping quarters. I could have said room, but I thought
sleeping quarters sounded more fun and old-timey. Yeah, it sure does. Good choice there, Katie.
You nailed it. She could have just said that's where the room he slapped it, but she's the sleeping
quarters. I don't care. I don't care. Not even a little bit, Katie. I thought it was interesting.
I mean, I don't know. What do I know? Oh, you thought that was interesting? Oh, yeah. Cool.
No, no, no, no. When I heard that, I was like,
That's fascinating. Please go on.
All right. So, let's get more unnecessary details about this case. That's always good.
So Justin was on the phone with 911 reporting his daughter missing, and his phone died.
911 called him back at 8.56 a.m. and his phone died again.
Justin called 911 back, man, is this a shit show or what?
and continued with the story about how he put Ayla down at 8 p.m. the night before.
She was checked on at 10 p.m.
And then at 9 a.m. that day, she was gone.
Okay. They got disconnected twice.
Whatever. He still called 911.
They still had the conversation.
What does that do with anything?
What a shit show.
This guy's phone got disconnected twice.
They're in Maine.
Close to fucking cell tower.
The man was on top of a phone pole trying to make the calls.
What else do you want him to do?
And then she gives out some serious teacher vibes here.
Instead, they gathered about 25 friends and family members to search the surrounding area,
which unfortunately, as we learned from the fun facts earlier in the episode,
if you were paying attention, is surrounded by forest and trees.
Because, well, everything is evidently in that God-forsaken state.
I hate that.
If you were paying attention, you remember I said 90% of the land is covered in forest?
She's fucking scolding us while listening to her.
I can't. No, I was paying attention. I just didn't give a fuck. I just don't care.
Do you think anybody was listening to this? I'll try to do better.
Oh, no, I got to pay more attention during the fun facts section. My bad, Katie.
That's my fault. That's not me. I'll be a better listener next time.
And then we get some more sarcasm and more biting sarcasm. Watch out for this.
In mid-January, Justin took a polygraph test about the discipline.
appearance of his daughter and past, or as he put it, quote, smoked it. This guy is a class
act, is he not? I think she's being sarcastic there. I don't think she actually likes Justin saying
he smoked his polygraph test. Yeah, I feel like she's too cool for school with her little
expressions. Oh, no, she's pretty hip. She knows the lingo. Now, this next clip I'm going to play
for you. She's going to imply that Justin is guilty here.
Now, the way she does this is very subtle.
I don't know if you can pick up on it or not.
I have a very keen ear for things like this.
I've been listening to a lot of podcasts for a long time.
All right.
But I think what she's doing is very subtly implying
Justin might be guilty of a crime here.
No one was sure where he had moved after he skipped town
because, yeah, he skipped town.
Innocent people do that a lot, you know.
And when the process server finally did find him,
Justin denied his identity.
I guess if one denies one's identity, he or she cannot be served.
Seems like a pretty easy way out to me, but whatever.
I don't think she's buying it.
I think she's trying to say that this guy's actions make it seem like he's guilty of something.
I'd hate to try to get one over on her because I feel like this woman cannot be fooled.
She's on top of it.
She's going to be on top of it.
So just a few more clips here because I found this pretty fascinating.
Obviously, there's a missing toddler, and so everyone's out looking, and something's got to bring the big guns in to figure these cases out.
Psychics weighed in on her disappearance and still nothing.
It was as if Ayla Reynolds disappeared into thin air.
Wait, wait, psychics couldn't help?
That's weird.
Since one can't psychics help with a missing person's case.
Madam Ashtabula couldn't figure it out, everybody.
I mean, maybe she had the wrong tarot cards.
They did look like a Udo deck.
But still, you'd think she'd figure it out.
She didn't bring a Ouija board.
She brought a game of Mousetrap with her and we got no answers.
Yeah, but it was a lot of fun setting up.
All right, this is what I hate about these types of cases for true crime shows.
It's a very unsatisfying end.
11 years later, police continue to investigate the case and welcome tips from any
who may have information.
Great.
If you do, please call 1-800-452-4-664 or 207-6-24-7076
or contact the Maine State Police Department anonymously on their website.
You don't need two phone numbers.
You never need two phone numbers.
Also, they've already talked to every single person involved in this thing that happened 11 years ago.
Who the fuck?
would be listening to this show who would know something that someone hasn't already talked to
about the cops about this. Oh my God. The fuck she thinks it's going to happen. We're going to solve
this case together though, aren't we guys? No. Why did you bring this up? It hasn't been solved.
It really is funny that she gave two phone numbers. Well, there's two phone numbers you can call.
Try both of them. Right. Why? It's give me one. If the first number is busy, please leave a message.
And then she explains me that I can go to their website and find their email address. He had no shit.
I'm well aware of how the internet works. I have one more.
clip because I just found this to be fucking
diculous. There is no satisfying ending
to the show unless she
ties a brick around her neck and
throws herself off a bridge.
Well, she does like to do the
credits. I guess that she's heard other podcasts
and she hears it like they give
all the credits at the end. Like a lot of the NPR
shows will do this
where it's like there's 15 people working on this podcast
and order they get it all produced and put
together. True crime
in the 50 podcast is
researched, written, and produced
by me, Katie O'Cardo, sound mixing and editing by me.
Please check out our website, True Crime and the50 Podcast.com.
She says, look at this show is me.
It's all me.
I do everything.
Check out our website.
Well, who's our?
Me, myself, and I.
Yeah, it's just, it's just you.
Now you're trying to make it seem like it's a bigger team.
It's not.
We know it's not a bigger team.
It's just you.
We get it.
And she's very proud of the job she's doing, too.
Obviously.
I made that credits thing as a goof.
I remember one time because I thought,
Do I still have that somewhere?
I might.
You're listening to The Creepoff.
It is hosted by me.
I've been together years ago.
Who Are These Podcasts is a show for jerks.
It's produced by Carl.
With executive producer Carl
and associate executive producer Carl.
WATP's social media is managed by Carl.
The website is updated from time to time by Carl.
The host of Who Are These Podcasts is
Carl, and the co-host is
whichever of Carl's friends responds to
his late-night text. Special thanks
to all the people who make this show
happen in alphabetical order.
Carl.
For producer Chris
and out of their ad and a couple
other people that helped me out of the show
from time to time.
What humble beginnings.
That woman literally just did that.
I think not as a goof.
Wow.
To go through the credits of the show.
So anyway, I'm going to go ahead and say,
True Crime in the 50 fucking blows.
This is the only true crime podcast.
You should be watching and listening to The Creepoff.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Carl, are you ready for some voicemails?
I am, buddy.
The Creepoff voicemail segment is brought you by the city of Syracuse.
Bruce Springsteen will be postponing a Syracuse concert this month.
Fun fact.
Did you know the song Dancing in the Dark was written by Bruce?
As a suggestion after attending a Syracuse nightclub?
See you in Sanjew.
I didn't hate it.
It was a little bit of a reach, but I didn't hate it.
All right.
All right.
So by the way, everybody, if you were to visit our Patreon right now, and I did put a link
there that you could follow, if you were to visit the Creepoff Patreon, there is a
poll up where you could choose Carl's consequence.
Ah, okay, good.
I've been meaning to do that.
Let's get the people to vote so we know what I have to do.
Yeah, because I'm leaving it up to you, people.
I really personally want him to drive to Gary, Indiana, but I would also love to find out
what the fuck will happen to him wearing a Dolphins jersey in the Bill's Stadium.
And I'm accused of constantly whining like sadistic shit to happen to Carl.
Yeah.
By me, I accuse you of that.
And if I have to, you know, admit it, a little guilty.
And I always feel bad.
The second we start getting closer, like, oh, I don't want to say anything bad happened to Carl.
Both of these are very dangerous scenarios for me, Benny.
Gary, Indiana, and go to a Bill's game in a Dolphins jersey.
So, in other words, the blood's on your hands now, everybody.
Feel free.
There's a patriot.com backslash the creep off and become a member when you're over there.
We just put out a really great bonus episode the other day, Carl.
Can I just give you a little internet tip?
What's wrong?
Everything after the question mark is unnecessary in a URL.
You have all your little trackers there for Google Analytics.
You can take all that.
Yeah, all I did was copy page.
Thanks, pal.
Yep.
Thanks for pointing out.
No problem, buddy.
People love to be corrected live on this on the show.
I know.
Especially by a fucking goblin.
They love tips.
There you go, everybody.
I'll do it again.
Here, let's try to see if it's better.
I mean, that's just going to be the same thing.
But yeah, that is better.
Doesn't that just look better?
What a lesson I just learned.
What a lesson.
Yeah, go and vote.
And please, let us know what you think I should do for my consequence.
Yeah.
Because the game is October 1st.
I'll be going to in Buffalo.
All right, P. Carl.
Vinnie, it's Ronnie and Syracuse.
Listen, what the hell?
happened to you, man. This last episode, you come out like a little whiny baby because you didn't
win the week before. It's not a terrible way to start off the show. Carl's got to come in and bring
all the energy and bring everybody back up because you're all, I didn't want to talk about it.
Come on, Vinny. Sometimes Carl's going to win. That's how it goes. And I'll tell you what,
I brought the creepiest college professor. No question about it. Because it rules for life.
fuck you bye thank you ronnie i'm glad you're paying attention sometimes i have to bring all the
fucking energy to the show do you people not realize the reason why i was upset and being ridiculous
was because everybody had the day off it was labor day and i was joking about how much it sucked
after to do a show that day no it wasn't about losing you're a mopee little bitch text
to read out right now and say me bitty paulito i'm the mopee little bitch on this show caro
brings the energy everybody go vote for gary make this motherfucker drive to gary now yeah oh yeah
vote for gary fucking try to give him it out he's got to call me names i have a voicemail for us okay
hey carl this one for the creep off uh my question for spinny binny is if the pod god does
pushes carl off of the internet will there be a win carl's job contest and if so how do i enter
all right i mean i may not have the gay wood paneling the gay pool table the buck teeth
the club foot or jenny jingles but i you know i think i may be a good fit
So give me a call back.
I look forward to the application.
So, all right.
Thank you, fuck you.
Bye.
A win Carl's job contest.
What do you think, baby?
Why would I want that?
Why would I want that?
Well, I think what he was saying was, you know, I was in this radio war not too on go with a guy who hosts the marijuana happy out.
Oh, Johnny Cush.
Yeah, I love Johnny Cush.
I listen all the time.
He was, everyone does.
And he was concerned that maybe Johnny Cush would actually get me taken off of the internet because Johnny Cush did threaten that that.
would happen. Yeah. If it comes down to it and I have to pick a new co-host, yeah, it will definitely
be an open competition. There'll be an obstacle course. You'll have to do that pickle thing
Obie did in college. I'm voting for Jess. Okay. I got one, Carl. Here we go. So I was just
listening to you two on WATP and I got one word for you. Pedazzling. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, consider it.
Great idea.
But asily.
Thank you, fuck you, bye, Vinny Winnie.
So that would be, for the consequence, we have to put jewelry around our penises.
Yeah, we'd have to have disco balls, literally.
To draw more attention to our privates is what you're saying.
See, when I flash them in public, I like to be a little more conspicuous.
Right.
I don't want people blinded when the light hits my testicles.
Well, maybe I do, actually.
That could be a fun power move.
Yeah.
Did he whip out his penis?
I can't tell.
The sun was in my eyes.
But I think so.
All right.
Here's another one for you.
You know what, Carl?
You might as well add fucking PCP and meth to the wheel.
As all as you're going to do is sprinkle a little bit of oregano on some graphing paper rolled up and smoke it.
And gaslight everybody into thinking you did your fucking consequence.
I have a drop for that, gentlemen.
You! How dare you, sir? How dare you?
I don't know. I think he makes a good point.
I want to do meth and PCP. Why would I fake that?
Well, who's stopping you? That's the fun consequence.
Who's stopping you?
I don't know, Jenny Jinkles. I don't know who's stopping me. The law? I don't know.
You're right. Good point.
Since what does the law stop you, Carl?
That's a very good point. You know what?
Today's Mills game is going to be more fun than usual.
Pretend meth is a bicycle that somebody took.
Yes. I'm down. I'm in. Let's do it.
hey uh viny or whatever intern is listening to this message uh that dog eating the guy's ass shit
oh my god fucking benny winnie benny winnie i think you got this one this week buddy
that's terrible all of it just i kind of like had to throw up a little bit when i heard that anyway
suit whoa you got butt slam
One more.
Carl, I think you might have brought the bigger creep was a college professor.
Yeah.
But I'm voting for Vinny because he was a chemical engineering professor.
Fuck those guys.
Oh, I don't like people's voting criteria.
A lot of people are like one-issue voters.
Yeah.
So remember, you can vote this week, whoever you thought brought the biggest creep.
And next week, if I win, Carl, we'll be spinning the wheel of math.
That's right.
It's all math all the time.
Thanks to the Rob 71.
That was very funny.
right carl i guess that makes it time for a scum parade if you're ready let's go
scum parade take me on a raid of these fuck charades that these creeps have made
scum parade vitty and carl gonna tell you about some fuck shit scum parade like stories of a kid
fought by his mom or dad
soaking up the blood
of a cat's cup parade
Carl, 71 votes have
coming already on your consequence.
Okay, where are we look, where we, what we see right now?
There you go.
Um, dolphins.
Okay.
Dolphins jersey in a bill's game is in the lead.
All right.
Considerably folks.
God, that will not be, that will not go well for me.
You can pick your player.
That will not go well.
I'll let you pick your player in your jersey.
Oh, can I.
I pick Thurman Thomas play a season for the Dolphins.
I would love for you to have a Thurman Thomas Dolphins.
Can I be Thurman Thomas?
Nothing but joy.
For this.
You would enjoy that?
Yes.
I want one.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Hey, guess what I got, by the way?
What did you get in the mail the other day?
An STD.
What?
Again, Vinny.
Just wrap it up already.
No, dude.
I got a Ledy Dykstra jersey.
Oh, no shit.
Yes.
Uh, Philly's?
Yes.
I got the Phillies one.
Just the time for the Detroit show.
That's awesome.
No, dude.
I'm so happy.
It was on Mitchell and Ness.
and I bought it immediately the second I saw one.
Congrats.
Hey, I had a minute to think during that jingle.
Yeah.
And I was just thinking, so Southern John called you.
So he doesn't know that we're doing a show right now or he wouldn't have called you.
Can you call him back live on the show?
Nope.
Why not?
Because I don't do that.
I want to know what he wanted to say, though.
I'll find out after.
Yeah, but you can call me.
You don't have to put up his side of the conversation.
I'm pretty sure I know what he wants.
What do you think?
I'm not going to get into it on here.
Oh.
There are secrets being held.
Oh, yeah.
There are secrets being held from the creep off audience.
Oh, there's secrets being held from everybody.
You know, honestly, Carl.
Oh, are people voting for this man who's keeping secrets from us?
Is anyone going and voting for Vinny?
Because this man is keeping secrets from us.
It's got to fucked up.
I'll get let you in on a secret.
All right.
I'm listening.
Shulie texted me the other day.
Uh-huh.
And he said to me, Vitty, are you really talking to John and stuff?
Oh, Shulie.
He's always up to something.
And he was like.
That guy.
And he said, he said, are you recording the conversations?
Really?
He asked me that.
can't you can't do that and you know what i said that's a dirty pool you know what i said would you
say nothing you know why because you're john's friend because i say nothing
until it's time to say something oh so you are recorded these conversations nope
fuck no fuck don't do that would never do that i also think that's illegal i would never do that
number one and then number two what i oh what's going to reveal something let's go i'm really
hoping for something awesome to come of this
Okay, that's a good teaser
Because I feel like
How do I put this?
A lot of relationships have not ended
Well for him
All of them
And I feel like maybe one can end well for him
Whoa
The teaser
And not end though
I feel like
There could be something good here going on
And I'm hoping
All right
That's all I could say
Maybe I'll make an announcement
It at the Detroit show live
Interesting
interesting well we'll look forward to that
all right
you ready for some scum kids yeah let's do it
hey you know what though can I play something
really great that yeah why not we've got
distracted enough we're just fucking having a budget night if rate of
you still watch he probably is not he's sitting there going
this fucking guy Carl tells me to keep on
on track and not get off
little side things and tanges and look at us
we're doing all of that right now okay
Mr. Magenta
yes has been doing some really cool
work on the side for me.
Cool.
Making some new creep-off themes.
And he sent me this one.
And he knows how much I love wrestling.
But this is a great one that
might possibly be our new
Pito Hunter Theater theme, Carl.
All right.
If you like it.
We're hunting.
Hold on. I got to open in this window.
Sorry.
Sorry, kids.
I'll make sure the people can hear it.
I care very much.
This one is set to the theme
of the big,
show's music if you recall the big show carl i do yeah yeah here we go we're hunting
pedos gonna home some pillows tonight oh yeah baby oh yeah baby we're hunting
petals this is way too high crank one out you're going to jay
that's all
I love it
but the next bonus episode we do
is going to be Petto Hunter Theater
I'll throw that out there
I have something that have been piling up
and Gordon Flowers is doing
some great work right now
Oh good
I'm watching a lot of different
Pito hunters these days
I'm trying to
diversify my portfolio
so to speak
Gordon Flowers and I wear similar t-shirts
Me too I got the same one
Yeah we're cool guys
Lorenzo ariola
Thanks buddy thank you for the swag
that you sent
Hey I just saw I just got a
that sitting John is live on YouTube.
You want to snipe him for a second?
See what he's talking about?
No.
Come on.
Is your buddy?
Let's see what he's talking about.
I don't want to swive him.
No.
Okay.
I want to listen, dude, I'm not doing anything to John.
I have doing nothing to John promoting his show.
I don't want anybody to assume that I'm doing something bad because here's the thing.
Memory late Monday.
You can't let anything good ever happen.
You got to ruin everything good.
You're all a bunch of ruiners.
Okay.
Let's get back on task.
Indiana, Carl.
Yes.
Where you'll be going soon if I have my way about it.
Okay.
An Indiana woman has been arrested recently after three sheriff's deputies pulled her over.
Her name's Amanda Smith.
She's 41 years old.
Police say that during the investigation officer, it suspected that there might be some drug activity happening.
Okay.
So they called over the canine dog and the canine signaled that there was the presence of narcotics in the vehicle.
Now.
Fucking narcs.
The second that dog.
started signaling and they wanted to search the vehicle.
That's when our girl Amanda did the only smart, sensible thing.
She clutched her chest and faked a heart attack.
Smart move.
It's the smartest move.
So they go, oh, no, they call it ambulance for her.
And she's refusing any type of tests, anything that they could use to evaluate her condition.
She won't even let them take her blood pressure.
Okay.
Maybe she didn't have this planned out very well after all.
Because she's having a heart attack.
You can't take my blood pressure right now, don't you understand?
Right. Can we just let the heart attacks upside first?
They get her to the hospital, right?
And she refuses to take care of her clothes.
She refuses to be looked at or seen by anyone.
And they believe that she was involved in an effort to conceal drugs.
Okay.
And the reason they thought that is because she refused all these things,
but then also demanded to go to the bathroom by herself.
Well, yeah. I mean, you want your privacy still.
Yeah.
Well, she finally.
admitted that she had a tiny bit of fentanyl
hidden in her underwear. Okay, that's where
I keep my fentanyl also. It makes sense.
Well, the doctor would say that allegedly nurses
spotted a plastic sandwich bag
halfway hanging out of her vagina.
She sounds like fun. And they made
her, they performed a body scan
on her because they didn't want to just
stick in their fingers in there. That's icky.
And they noticed an abnormality
in her pelvic area.
So they removed what was an avocado
sized plastic sandwich bag
inside of it were 38.9
grams of meth, 10.4 grams of crack, 9.2 grams of fentanyl. And then they started looking through
her car and they found gabapentin, naloxone, and burpropophrine. That's how you say that.
Yep. And court documents said a notebook was also found in the car containing names, weights,
dollar amounts, and drug types. So she gave birth to a party. That's pretty fucking cool. But then,
And I don't think that she really had a plan for if I get pulled over, considering every single thing you could possibly have to prove you're a drug dealer was all right there in one place.
Was neatly tucked away.
Yeah, it's pretty pretty fucking dumb.
She even had, because they have a photo of all the shit that they confiscated here.
She even had those little jewelry bags that are normally used for jewelry.
Yep.
And like a giant package of those in there.
It's like, are you intending to distribute these drugs, ma'am?
Oh, no.
This is all personal use, sir.
I'm addicted to do a lot of different things right now.
What do you mean?
There's no drugs here.
All there is is a very, very tight vagina that you're not allowed to look inside of.
Also, this chick, Amanda Smith, like my drug dealers suck because I got to go to one guy for my PCP.
There's another guy against my Coke.
There's another guy for my fentanyl.
If I just knew one person with all this stuff, a lot fewer inane conversations, fewer stops, more free time to do drugs.
I would disagree.
If you're buying drugs from the woman who's got 40 grams of meth and 10 grams of crack in her vagina, I would think there'd probably be way more a name conversation.
Okay, yeah, that's a good point.
She's probably getting high in her own supply.
Is that what you're thinking, Vinny?
I'm guessing.
Now what's happening.
You get another phone call?
I am.
Who's this one from?
Not John.
Okay, I was going to say he's out of show.
I doubt he's called you now.
Yeah, so later you're just showing up with how many friends you have over there.
Wow.
Yeah, that's what it's like to have friends, Carl.
Can you call this episode?
Vinny gets distracted a lot.
I'm sorry.
No, it's fine.
There's a lot going on today.
There's a lot going on.
I can tell.
I know.
We had a package delivered you had to sign for you're trying to find fucking, uh, I think
you were creating a poll as I was going through her, these creepos.
Yeah, it was way more interesting.
That listening to those two talk.
Give me a break.
All right.
Give me a break.
Let's see where you're voting's at right now.
Let's see what we got here.
This is the worst scum brain ever.
Oh.
Oh, 60% now.
60%
All right
Dolphins seriously
Okay
Well we shouldn't be telling people that
Because it might
Persuade them
Carl
I got a fun one for
Okay
Where are we going
Last year
Last week
Yes
Last week we did
Creepiest Professor
Yes
And I think I found a guy
That we missed
Hmm
What do you think
This guy's pretty
Fucking weird
Right
He's fun
I think this guy
Falls under that
Category of Creep
Who hasn't committed
An actual crime
Correct
Yes
So we'll get into that
Yeah
So
A former
a college geography professor with an apparent clown fetish had to resign earlier after it was
revealed he was asking female students to paint their faces. Now, girls love this kind of shit,
I would assume. Oh, of course. Makeup party. We're going to paint our faces. This sounds like fun
for the makeup tutorial. Yeah. So Joseph Tukash held two positions at two previous colleges. He was on
track for tenure at Nicholas University in Louisiana before the student newspaper, bunch of busy bodies.
Exposed his creepy behavior in March
Fucking tattle tails over there
He had to quit
The professor had not been secret
About his sexual fantasies before the report
Posting about face painting
And clowning on social media
On Reddit
Let me show you this clip here Carl
I have to say that clowns are not funny
But a clown fetish is very funny
It's hard to argue that
This guy's getting off on
Putting clown makeup on young women
Young attractive women
yeah it's pretty great
I mean if it's to humiliate them then I can understand
but I think he like really gets into clowns a lot
in fact has this guy ever been to a gathering of the juggalo's
he'd probably lose his fucking mind
so hold on here we go
this is the Reddit post that he posted
under the name Joeography
because he's a geography professor
yeah and actually that's what he called
his uh his class right
he called it Joeography
so they made it very easy to track him down online
it's always good
to post pictures of your students that you've
all that you've dolled up literally.
Could you imagine if Cardiff was a college professor
and his final exam every year he called it the Cardiff Electric exam?
Like you just, if you're trying to keep your anonymity online,
you want to be a little bit sly about it.
You want to be a little sneaky.
And let me tell you something.
If I was trying to keep my anonymity online,
I would take Cardiff's class.
Right.
100%.
He's killing it.
So the quote, the post says this,
I convince pretty girls to let me paint their faces.
here are some of the results.
Now,
this is like the weirdest walk of shame.
Can you imagine these girls
going to go back to their dorm room?
They're just like,
whoa,
what is she getting up to you last night?
Holy fuck.
Looks like she's sucking up
to the professor Joe again.
Someone's getting an A.
Someone's getting an A in geography.
Now,
he offered cash to any student
willing to paint their faces.
Okay, that's fair.
Now, one of these students,
Sophie Levin first accounted him
when he was 28 years old
on a Facebook group
for incoming Kent State students
where he previously was employed in 2017
Kent State?
Yes.
Haven't they had enough tragedy?
I believe that's where the Z-Man
got a 2.3 GPA.
2.3, huh?
Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, something like that.
That's pretty good.
Yep.
So Levin was 18.
She accepted enticed by the cash
and her own interest in movie makeup.
She said things quickly turned creepy.
I can't believe with all this cloud makeup thing got creepy
So he wanted to take her into the
The empty campus building where the geography department was located
Where we paint her face
She said she felt weird about that
And he became very aggressive
After she stopped responding to his incessant requests
To participate
She filed a police report with the Kent State Police Department
She said, I felt like the school would want to know about it
I thought maybe they could prevent anything bad from happening
Since the other girls would go with him
So he was being like, no, come on, come with me.
We're going to paint your face over here.
Come with me.
He was like, this is like that scene in Goodfellas, which he was like, yeah, yeah, go down there to the right.
You're going to go to the right?
And she's like, I got to go, Jimmy.
I got to go.
That's exactly what this woman did to this professor.
And he was not happy about it.
No.
Because he kept sending her messages and she told him to cease communication.
And he did for a while.
And then months later around midnight, she suddenly received a text of a selfie of this guy.
a sad looking face covered in white face paint.
Well, there was no message to shirt red.
I'm not a failure.
And here is that picture right there.
Aw, poor guy.
I'm not a failure.
I just wasn't painting a girl's face.
What's the problem?
Well, that he's a pervert.
All right.
Allegedly.
It's the problem.
That is a problem.
Now, Nimrod, 71.
He dropped a jug a load.
It's pretty good.
Thank you, Nimrod, Tobachs.
Appreciate it.
So because of this situation.
at Kent State. He left the school and found another job. And apparently, none of this stopped when he went to his new school in Northern Illinois State or Nichols State. That's how that works. You don't break an addiction because you get a new job. That's right. Now, student journalists with the Nicholsworth, which is the state at Nichols or the school newspaper at Nichols University, discovered the geography. A word he used to promote his class materials was also the username of a Reddit user who posted about the clown fetish.
additionally a YouTube account under the name Joe Tokash.
His actual name post at least two videos in 2020 of a man throwing pies at a woman.
So what you're telling me right now is that this school newspaper at a school no one's ever heard of did better investigative journalism than CNN, the New York Times, Washington Post, MSNBC, any of these when Hunter Biden's laptop came out.
No one could look into anything.
But these two were able to figure out this guy's Reddit account and other profiles on.
line and tie it all together.
Hey,
if I told you that these pictures were from Hunter Biden's laptop,
you'd believe me, right?
Of course I won.
The craziest shit the world is on that laptop.
I want to see Joe Hunter Biden in cloud makeup eating the sandwich off a hooker.
All right.
Well, we'll put it in the Hunter Biden Google machine.
There it is.
Yep, there it is.
Now, Nicholas Worth, editor-in-chief Sally Ann Torres,
interviewed six female students who shared their experiences with them.
some said they agreed in exchange for extra credit.
The woman said he sometimes giggles
he painted their faces in his office.
Again, not a crime.
Again, I agreed.
I wasn't just this innocent thing
that a lot of these girls thought it was,
Torres said, as a professor or teacher,
that as somebody, students are supposed to trust
to use his power to ruin that trust
and to do these things,
and that makes me angry for them.
I mean, they're getting a little bit heavy-handed
in this article.
Oh, God, of course.
So we'll end it there.
Yeah, now he quit his job.
Well, the best sentence in this article is at the end it says,
he has not been charged with any crimes related to face painting.
Are there crimes related to face painting, Vinny?
Can he be charged with crimes related to face painting?
If you paint a swastika on someone's face, you will go to jail.
Yeah, there you go.
You will go to jail.
I don't think that's true, though.
I don't think you can, let me hear any crimes related to face painting.
All right.
It exists on the books.
All right.
Well, let's keep moving, shall we?
Yes.
This is a fun one.
I think I have this guy.
No, shit, I don't.
Now, a 31-year-old guy named Michael Justin Ortiz in Tampa, Florida.
started getting into an online relationship with a 14-year-old girl back in 2020.
Okay.
I highly recommend not doing this.
Right.
Probably not a great idea.
You probably don't have a ton in common.
Yeah.
See the new Barbie movie?
Yeah.
These winter spring relationships, kids, you don't want these.
Fast forward three years and it's become a problem, Carl.
Ortiz pretended to be the girl's classmate at Miami Northwestern Senior High School in the years
before they met, even name-troping several of her teachers.
So finally, we've been covering this a lot lately,
people pretending to be high school students who aren't,
finally a good reason to fuck a high school student.
This is the only reason that's acceptable
to pretend you're a high school student.
That's right.
And they chatted on social media for years, Carl.
And then after a while, he was like,
you want to be my girlfriend?
And she's like, yeah, I'll be your girlfriend.
If he'll be my boyfriend.
He was like, I'll be your boyfriend.
And then they were like online boyfriend and girlfriend.
Yeah, they made it official.
Yeah.
They even talked about buying a house together.
just a weird thing for a high school kids to do.
If you talk to a high school girl or a teenager about buying a house, you're gay.
That's gay.
You just want to put curtains in it.
You're gay.
Yeah, that's not good.
How do you want to decorate?
So I find this really weird that maybe she didn't put together that he was 31 at that point.
Yeah.
What he said about down payments and mortgage rates?
Vinny.
Now, I know the girls are way, way older, but wouldn't this be easier to pull off on a college campus?
Yes.
You could be a 30-year-old college student.
You can't be a 30-year-old high school student.
And I get it.
The girls are 19.
It's gross.
I'm just saying that'd probably be a better plan.
So in June, they had met up.
He bought her a promise ring.
They finally got together at the victim's aunt's house.
And he told her to meet him across the street so that the aunt wouldn't see him.
That's their first meeting.
Yep.
Oh, finally.
my boyfriend who brought me a promise ring
and we're gonna buy a house together this year
but he can't be seen by my family
it's because the guy has a full fucking neck beard
yeah and he's balding
yeah he's got a worse hairline than me
he does not look like a high school student
let's put it that way so
by this time the victim's 17
and despite comments that he looked older
than the age of 20 that he was claiming to be
at this point
the pair went on and had three sexual encounters
on one occasion they went to the movies
where Ortiz guilt tripped into having sex in the back seat of his car after the film.
Well, he bought popcorn.
Well, yeah, no shit.
And that soda wasn't free, you know.
I know the refills were free, but I had to buy that soda.
It's a big soda and costs a lot of money, honey.
That's an expensive fucking soda.
The victim's mother became concerned and asked to see a photograph of her boyfriend.
And after this daughter had alleged, she was only 18 years old.
Right.
Because she didn't want to get in trouble.
After getting Ortiz's name and phone number, the girl's mother Googled him.
and found out he was 31, and she called the police.
Now, according to the police warrant, he was arrested on last Tuesday,
and he's currently being held at the Turner-Gilfield Night Correctional Center on $500,000 bail.
So he does not fall under the Romeo and Juliet clause that I learned about last week in Florida,
where you can have sex with a 16-year-old girl if you are 24 or younger.
If you're into stupid poetry, you're allowed.
That was the Romeo and Juliet clause that exists.
in that state. And again, this article,
I hate to point this out, bad journalism.
It leaves out the girls' cup size.
I don't understand why these articles
are not including relevant information.
Speaking of cup size, Vinny,
I know we have a couple superchats to get up on,
but I want to get to this one before our last story.
No, no, it's down.
It's from our friend Mint.
Yep.
Ah, there she is.
ASC presents.
My friend Minstale says,
Don't make Carl Drive to Gary.
We can't afford to lose him to violent youths.
I believe Mint lives in Indiana, if I'm not mistaken.
No, she lives down in Ohio, I think.
Is it Ohio?
Yeah, they live down by Cincinnati.
Carl, can I point this out to you?
And to Mint as well, I wouldn't, I think you'd be safer and carry Indiana than in the new era field.
The people are just as drunk and a Dolphins jersey.
Yeah, I know.
So I just want to congratulate Mint.
She's gone viral in the last day or two.
Barstool Sports posted her video of her going off about how much Star Wars.
sucks and it's gotten a lot of attention i'll put it that congratulations yes it's very cool to
see that uh bar stool was picking up on her rant video about star wars all right well we'll hit
the super chats in just a minute we got a bunch to catch up on uh clay county indiana caro
we're back there indiana and man can you just put in the chat if you live in indiana and i
thought that's what uh hana told me okay i could be wrong car i haven't been wrong before but there's a
first time for everything, Vinnie. Carl, I need to show you the mugshot of our final crepe.
Yeah, he's got a winner. This guy's picture sums him up pretty well. Yep. This, that mug shot is
exactly what's going on. What you see is what you get. That's the genuine article right there.
A man who inadvertently recorded himself murdering his mother's boyfriend will spend the next 85 years
behind bars. That is the face of a guy who they just said, hey dude, uh, we have the recording right here.
We know what you did.
He was leaving a voicemail, and he forgot to hang up the phone before committing a murder.
And the worst part is that he yelled out, my name is Cody Wade, and I'm murdering my mother's boyfriend with a knife right now.
It's like, you don't have to yell that out, sir.
That's very incriminating.
Dude, I have the greatest board of the world, but I could never find what I'm looking for.
I noticed that.
I noticed that.
But this is why murderers prefer texting to leaving voicemails.
If you ever have someone who doesn't want to leave a voicemail or call you, this is why.
Because they might be committing murder.
And then that'll be evidence.
And he was leaving a voicemail for his mother.
For his mother.
The one who's dating the guy that he's murders.
Yeah.
I'm sure it was a sweet voicemail.
He had left the voicemail on his mother's phone right before the murder happened.
However, he failed to hang up the phone and ended up recording the entire incident as a voicemail on his mother's phone.
Hey, hey, mom.
It's your son, Cody.
Just want to know how much you love your new boyfriend, Carl.
I'm just curious how much you love him.
All right, I'll talk to you soon.
Yeah, so for this court case for this fucking guy, all they did was play the recording.
That was all they had to do.
And 85 years in prison for this asshole.
Oh, all I want is the fucking curb your enthusiasm music under that.
I should have it on my board.
Oh, man.
Whatever.
Who cares?
Who gives a shit?
Who gives a shit?
Carl, let's hit those voicemails up.
You mean the super chats?
Yeah.
stupid. Yep. That's all right. Our boy Locky says, okay, maybe just a little C. No, no. No.
Jesus Christ. Why do I have to keep telling you? He's going to get our whole operation taken down
this guy. Dang Lizard with five euros. Vinny is S.J's last real friend. So vote against him.
You know, that could be true. It's so sad. Uh, oh, well. Aloha Vinnie, subredded surfing. Let's go.
That's right. Tonight. Tonight at eight o'clock.
starts kicks off yeah man I'm very excited we are actually doing a contest Carl oh yeah we are doing
the win the subred at surfing producer contest all right producer job contest and we have two people
competing and boy have they really brought it so far that's great excited anyone I know uh Dylan from
somewhere okay I know Dylan and then Jimmy guy named Jimmy okay great great excellent the heckler said
this is the worst thing to happen on September 11 my sister was born on this day uh that was also
the greatest. Hey, you know what? Ironically, so is mine. That's right. We've talked about this
before. You and I have exact half birthdays with each other. Yep. And our sisters were born on
September 11. And you suck and I'm awesome. So the similarities on there. Anthony comes in
with two bucks. New consequence. Loser has to befriend Johnny Cush. You know, Johnny, I just
like the cut of your vibe, man. Dude, I would love for you to be friends with both Joddy and
Johnny. That'd be a fun show, John, John, and Vinny. Yeah, I love it.
Okay, Nimrab back to it.
He just dropped a jug of load and then our girl Mint.
Yeah, go back to the regular chat.
I just wanted to see if Mint got back to me.
Kentucky, Kentucky, damn it, you were right near Cincinnati.
Yeah, I'm an idiot.
Look how awesome you are.
I'm an idiot.
I don't know why I thought for him.
Now folks, I want to.
You're getting very confusing now.
We're voting for Vinnie and Carl and now Dillon.
It's just too many contests going on.
There are a way too many contests.
We got a poll that's up there right now is too much.
So join us tonight on the subreddit surfing YouTube channel and on Cardiff Electric's channel.
We're going to be- Or watch the Bills versus the Jets.
Hey, when I'm done over there, when I'm done over here, I might swing by your house.
You're going to be watching.
Yep.
All right.
Am I invited?
You are welcome to come over.
Yes.
We'll be there.
My wife has already made the chili.
It's fantastic.
Ah, before I came over here.
All right.
All right.
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We love you.
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That's the wrong one.
That's the wrong one.
That's the intro.
I'm stupid.
Ain't only raping children
Hello, Detroit
You've won my heart
And so
You have committed a crime
Ha
You
You, my friend
Have committed a crime
Why do you need to
