The Creep Off - Episode 185: Hysterical Mayhem

Episode Date: October 2, 2023

In this week’s episode Karl & Vinnie travel back in time to make their nominations for the biggest creep of 1978: In code blue cam we watch a creep get cornered by the cops: Finally in the Scum parade we meet a really clingy Ex- Cop/boyfriend, a dad who just could not get the job done and a mom who demands loyalty.  The score is currently Vinnie 4- Karl 4, visit thecreepoff.com to vote and decide who will spin the dreaded wheel of consequences next week.   Check out this week's Scum Parade:PA State Police trooper Ronald Davis tackled ex to ground: Dauphin DA (nypost.com)Woman who 'tried to kill husband' with bleach caught putting 'liquid' in coffee machine - Daily StarCalif. man convicted of trying to kill son with sledgehammer while he slept | Truecrimedaily.comMom who waterboarded baby, stuffed him in freezer, sentenced (lawandcrime.com)Want to support the show? Find us on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to get exclusive merch an extra bonus episode every week! 

all right i'm going to be magnanimous and i'm going to start to show off by congratulating the stupid buffalo bills on their victory yesterday what a win uh what a win carl what a game to attend holy cow it's one of those moments where once you finish fighting the urge to slice your own wrists yes you know you realize that you can go on and you can still do a creepie off the next day. So, proud of you. Thank you, friend. Thank you, friend. They won by four touchdowns. It was a blowout.

See you, week 18. You're listening to the Carl Network. Warning, listening to the creep off. Mindy view. Triggered. This episode may contain murder, rape, laughing of murder and rape, ableism, many dixtras, serial keeters, smile talking, fat shaming, child abuse, drug abuse,

or abuse victim blaming on the state of Florida. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive, and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo! Gotta be back in time. Disgusting Vomit-inducing thing

Ola Creepos. Welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps by creeps for you, creeps. I am one half of your hosts. Maybe like two-thirds of your host. My name is Vinny, and joining me as always in studio. It's hot co-cooka-carl. What is happening at Vinnie Paulino? I want to start off today's show something our friend Alex put together for me. Oh, fuck. Oh, Alex, you son of a bitch.

Miami has a dolphin, the greatest football team. Let's go buffalo. Let's go buffalo. Let's go buffalo. Let's go buffalo. I heard that song so many times yesterday. I thought I was doing my, uh, consequence for Phil all over again. That side was just playing nonstop after every score. Well, way to get Alex fired, Carl. Good job. He felt back that he got his paycheck and he felt bad about it. Did he?

He's like, oh, yeah, Vinny paid me. So, yeah, Vinny talks to me and is nice to me and I'm going to go and make that to Buffalo. Whatever, dude. How did it go wearing your jersey? Good. I have a bunch of videos and photos and things. I'll pull all that together. Maybe we can, I'm sure we can share them online, but also.

also maybe present them on our bonus show this week. Sounds great. Question for you. Yes, sir. Does anybody else have maybe a small issue with the fact that Carl didn't wear a Dolphins jersey to the game? Am I the only one who has an issue of that? If you're telling me this is not a Dolphins jersey, we'll show you, I'll show you the evidence.

You will see the evidence. People were not happy with me. Walking in with all the Bills fans, they were none too pleased. None to please until I had to do the big reveal. Oh, God. You're not allowed to do a reveal. That was part of the problem. Did the big reveal at the seats.

Oh, ripping off the, the Dolphids jersey. Well, you're supposed to wear it for the whole game. To show the bills underneath. You're not, you weren't supposed to do that.

Hold on a second. You just submitted your break, you broke the rules already out of the gate. That's not true at all. And also, people told me I should wear my Bill's hat or Zumbos or something. I didn't do any of that. I was trying to go in disguise.

I was getting roughed up a little bit by people. I'm sure you'll be excited about that, Benny. You got roughed up, really yep awesome all right cool can't wait for the bonus on friday now so you're telling me on the bonus on friday we get to watch a video of people finally getting their hands on you yes and we get to watch thunder in paradise wow it's going to be a fun bonus show on friday fucking if your credit card expired and you need to re up on the creep off patron don't forget to do that now is not the time to uh to miss one don't miss this one so carl last week we did an episode

where we tried to pick what was our category again remind me bud what was the category last week i'm the worst at everything on my own show jesus christ help me uh it was the creepiest football coach football coach that's right and here to let us know who won it is our lovely vivacious results girl jessica hello hey jess how's the uh kitchen project going it sounds quiet over there today good they aren't here today but they just put the floor down the other the other day Friday uh looks good so far hopefully by the middle of this month it should be done that would be fantastic and stop that and quiet well jessica would you not delay it anymore please let me know if carl is spinning the wheel today that's right you are at four points right now i am at three a victory would tie this one up at four to four

but if Carl loses he's got to spin the fucking wheel and I have everything ready to go Carl I got it ready well let's see what do we got well with 73% of the vote it was 106 to 39 the winner was Carl what the fuck

yeah I denounce it I denounce it wow dominating victory everything's coming up Carl this week this is great that means oh let's let's update that score on there benny that mean it's four to four and today is game point whoever wins this week wins the round

okay well aren't you glad i prepared my advice to you everybody for today's segment get your barf bags ready okay all right i'm so uh then he's calling shot shot you know what man yesterday's game wasn't a big enough dick kick that was one god damn well one of the bill's best defensive players went down with what looks like a season ending injury so be happy about i'm never happy when somebody gets hurt i'm not like a bills fan who was like when two it gets hurt you guys you're on fuck man it's all i heard all this week just hoping that they fucking hurt a guy your classless organization no one's hoping someone gets hurt that's not true not not the case here here we go guys let's uh just can you remember a time you've been a review girl

for a few months now can you remember such a lopsided victory on here not really yeah i mean yeah i mean either no i'm like wow i think the audience likes it when it's like a close call i like it when it's a blowout like the bills game was and like this latest latest round of the creep off was well the only thing that i could make it easy and gentlemen is rise from the ashes and try again this week that's all i got that's right buddy that is all you got that is all you got uh jess anything else to report today um i mean we have some reddit comments okay so uh roscow 577 said carl gets the vote with the stepdad connection that's not near than squirrel shit carl can we get at the jingles department the saying what the fuck

are we talking about oh i think i uh i think i might have that somewhere gosh i got to remember what I called that. What the fuck are they talking about? It's actually called what the fuck are they talking about. It wasn't that difficult to find. Huh. Go figure. Cool.

There it is. Nim Rob 71 says I have the loser rub. Yes, you do. It just might be. Motherfuckers. Is that it? Oh, so I didn't know what it. That's what I think else to say.

Oh, that's where you continue with Reddit. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. You know, I've been doing this for months. You think I would know that. Dr. Ted penis astronaut said, Vinnie, turn Carl's light down a little.

Carl's stupid face is too pale and there's a big gay hot spot on it. Come to think of it. Set Carl's lighting up all around. Lower the room lights a little. Your side is probably a, your side is lit properly. And Carl's side looks sterile. Maybe pick the Reddit comment. no that was a good comment i knows that you don't have the ring lights blurring into my face

this is good i was funny to me i lost my smile vittie's off today i have a feeling oh i'm on today i'm on today carl bed start for you my friend i'm off at every other way but today i am on all right wait and see all right well there was a reply there was a reply to that one it said uh it's because his woodchuck teeth and smiling smile talking reflect the lights so much just turn off his camera. Huh. I don't know why. That was the reply to that. Yeah,

I don't know why that's funny. It's amazing. You can close your eyes and still see Carl's awful personality. So maybe there is something to that. So we could turn the camera off. I got a note from our new review girl that you met at the WATP studios on Saturday, Kendi. And Kendi sent me letting me know that she's got a wedding to attend coming up this weekend. She says, hey, chompers. I can't be live on Saturday. I fucking love her. What the fuck's her problem? What's that all about?

Jess is always so nice to me. I was like take it back. I'm like, way, that's just kind of rude. How nice you are to Carl. Yeah, it's a job review.

Thank you for being nice to Carl. When we do you. I'm nice to both of you. You're going to get a lot of high marks for that. Kind of rules. Kiddy fucking rules. Joppers. It's a great nickname.

different so any more Reddit comments or should we get into the competition today Jess well I guess one more from Adam 2890 I'll say Haley Owens was not a cute kid that was just fair enough

all right so I guess it's time to start the competition you could follow Jess wherever you use social media at Jess daydreaming and we'll see you next week. Wait, wherever I do social media. Do you have a TikTok, Jess?

I do, but I don't really use it. Oh, come on. I want to check out your TikTok. Yeah. It's mostly me using filters. No, no. All right. Let's pull it up.

I'll bring some for next time. Yeah, we'll save them for next time. We'll keep you on longer. She's going to scrub her account, though. You know, she's going to go. No, no, I'm not. No, I'm not. If I can deal with, if I can deal with Jess Dunham, I can deal with that.

That's true. It's a good point. please change it from just daydreaming to chess done him that's just the funniest thing in the world come on come on come on we need some synergy with the show going over there you don't know what we're talking about we asked jess who her favorite comic is and she had to think about it for a couple seconds and then she said jeff done him i grew up watching him on tv you answered the way you were supposed to answer i'm just letting people know what the reference is because you seem like you're ashamed or something It seemed like you're a little embarrassed by that.

I mean, when people all online are just like, how could she say that? That I'm ashamed, I guess. Yeah, it's all good. You took a public driving for no good reason. It was worth it for that. You took a public driving for an excellent reason. It was an excellent reason. Yes, that's true.

It was such a great picture. Before we let you leave, though, how about you read this super chat for us? All right. Dang Lizard five euros. Carl pretending he did his consequence again. He had to listen to Let's Go Bills for four hours, handcuffed to a radiator. You're my dang lizard. Doing the best I can over here, buddy. All right, Jess. We'll see you next week. Adios. She's out of here. All right. Dude, ring the bell. And you won. You're

going first. Let's start off the competition. So our category this week is the year 1978. That's right. We had another category picked. And then I spent hours looking for creeps. And I was like, nobody here is that interesting. Yeah. And while Vinny was doing that, I was home rewatching the Bills game that I had just attended because it's just it was so much fun I had to watch it again. Then I watched highlights this morning. It's why I was a little bit late

to get it here. I got to go through the stat sheet relive some of the moments. I always love when you look down at your board. I'm like, okay, what's he going to hit me with? You're very slow with that soundboard. What do you got? I'm not hitting a soundboard. I was sad. All right. So 19. I was looking down. in shade.

In 1978, what happened in that year that I might bring to our attention? Well, it was the birth of a man named Mark Sappington. Sappington was born in 1978 and grew up on the north side of Kansas City, Kansas, in an impoverish neighborhood. His mother did her best to raise him on her own, but in a neighborhood riddled with drugs, gangs, and violence, it's a tall order for anyone, let alone a single mother, barely keeping her own head above water. She was heavily involved in her church and brought Sappington along with her,

where he seemed to have found a second home. Mark Sappington, born in 1978, February 9th, 178, he had a little bit of an issue. The black man had a little bit of schizophrenia. And the way he decided to treat that was by doing PCP. Now, Vinnie, do you think the PCP is going to cure that? No, I just think it's going to help you hear the voices a little clearer. Correct.

Unfortunately, mental health care was unavailable to someone in Sappington's, situation. As such, he was unable to receive treatment for an undiagnosed case of schizophrenia. His drug use only exacerbated the problem, and when he began to hear voices at the age of 21, he did even more PCP in an effort to drown them out. He later said that the voices told him that he needed to eat flesh and drink blood or he himself would die. He did just that to the detriment of four residents of Kansas City in March and April of 2001. His first murder seems rather mundane compared to what was to come. It was simply a robbery gone wrong, but afterwards something in him snapped. Savington walked the streets for the next three weeks,

talking to the voices in his head, asking, what about him? What about her? When he finally got approval for his next victim, it was an old friend who he took into his basement where he hacked him to pieces with a hunting knife. This left the walls dripping with blood, which he lapped up before dumping the body across the river in Kansas City, Missouri. Three days later, he killed another friend, stabbing the man in his own car, but only making a cursory effort of drinking his blood before fleeing the scene. On the way home from that killing, he spotted a young man who he knew from the church, and he invited the 16-year-old boy to come back to the home he shared with his mother where he shot the boy in the chest with a shotgun this time he crudely dismembered

the body and ate part of one leg before disposing of the rest in a trash bag this is a rare one minnie we have a serial killer cannibal who's also a black man and don't see that very often that's true that's that is true and only 21 years old to boot mark sappington is known as the kansas city vampire because he like to drink his victim's blood this is a uh an excerpt from friends for dinner by shaman McGrath. The seas of police reports have painted should shock anyone, including those who knew Mark Sappington. In one, Sampington hunkered down in his mother's basement, staring at the body, at the bloody mounds of flesh that until moments ago were his friend. His ears were still ringing from the thunderous blast of the shotgun, but even that couldn't drown out the menacing voices in his

head. The voices taunted him do it. They urged him do it now. Sabinton, a muscular 5'11 inch, 168 pound 21 year old with a baby face grabbed the steak knife and an axe and turned back to the still warm corpse of 16 year old elton brown fresh blood covered the walls and formed a pool on the cold hard cellar floor he allegedly went to work with the axe hacked the body into six large pieces and then used the steak knife to carve off a small hunk of the victim's thigh the voices then told him to cook and eat some of it and to save the rest for later The butcher reportedly stuffed what was left of Brown into several black garbage bags and left them on the floor. He then bounded out onto the streets of Kansas City, Kansas, and of course two victims in one day. Elton was found in the basement of this KCK home. His legs and arms were cut off. Back then, the neighborhood was talking about the crime and the man responsible. And dude always wanted to be like Jeffrey Dahmer and stuff.

So he always said, if you go out, he want to go out like a legend. Elton Brown wasn't the only victim. Terry Green, Michael Weaver Jr. and David Mashek were also murdered. Masick was found inside his auto business. The others were found in cars. And, Vinny, just to drive the point home, Sappington tried to suck the blood of two of his victims, both of whom were also his friends. This effort in phlebotomy earned him the sobriquet, Kansas City vampire. In another instance, he hacked a 16-year-old's body into bite-sized morsels.

that he consumed in his mother's basement. That is my creep born in 1978, Mark Sappington, the Kansas City vampire. Well, Carl, that was a great presentation. Thanks, buddy. Whoever that guy who sounded like Steve Buscemi was really did his research.

Yes. Now, ladies and gentlemen, let's talk about my creep. Carl wants to talk about vampires. His vampire was born in 1978. My vampire. Oh! you buy a vampire i have the creepiest vampire of 1978 committed his crimes in one month

january 1978 is this the creepiest vampire we're doing this week by mistake it must fucking be wow it must be because ladies and gentlemen it's game point so it's fucking on car let's go i've done my research myself so i will not be playing other people's clips and ladies and gentlemen i have come prepared with a photo so you watched other videos and wrote it down i like no i really Read articles. I also read an article. I bring a presentation with me, Vinny. I have multiple sources.

I have news reports. Don't start with this bullshit that I'm not doing anything over here. Don't even start with this. All right. I want to start with anything. Why are you so upset? How dare you? Why are you so upset?

How dare you? How long, pal? Relax. Just sit back, relax. I'm going to do my thing now. Okay. So this is Richard Chase. This is him in 1978, Carl.

handsome gentleman, eh? Dick Chase. Yeah. Are you familiar? with the McDonald triad? I am not. Okay, so I thought I was. It turns out it is not double quarter pounder with cheese, large fries, and a couple of coax.

Okay. What is it? It turns out that it is a thing that psychologists call the keys to sociopathie. And there's warning signs in children. So I thought this was interesting enough to bring up. Here's what they link. Cruelty to animals, obsession with fire setting, and persistent bedwade wedding. A serial keener.

These are the things that you need to be looking out for if your child is doing that you might have a real sociopath on your hands. And not only did Mike Crepe today display all of these characteristics as a child, his parents didn't give a fuck. They just let him do whatever. All right. So not only is he setting fires, killing cats, dogs, and other animals for shits and giggles, he was also ruining all the sheets. So he's a creep. He developed a disease called hypochondria, which he became a hypochondri. which he became a hypochondriac.

He thought there was a lot of problems wrong with his body. Yeah. Okay. So here's some examples. He would complain that sometimes his heart would just stop beating for hours at a time. That's probably not true. Yep. And he also thought that someone stole his pulmonary artery at one point.

Oh, Jesus. Give it back. I need that. Now, this is the best one. I was using that. This is the best one. Okay. He felt like he had a vitamin C deficiency.

Okay. So what he would do is he would peel oranges and squish them into his forehead. Does that help? No. I didn't think so. No, it's what a crazy person does. You can just eat the oranges, sir. They're delicious.

And it probably really feels great. You feel really invigorated after the orange juice drips into your eyes. Yeah. So you could cut yourself shaving that day. That's a lot of fun. Dude, he was really fucking whacked out this kid. He thought that his cranial bones had all become separated and we're moving around. Uh-huh.

So he shaved his head so he can monitor it. Good idea. He's really- This guy spent a lot of time staring into the mirror, didn't they? He bothered his parents. is what I think I picked up on this. And they encouraged him to get the fuck out of the house as soon as they could. And they rent to an apartment for him nearby, but they didn't really stop by as often

as maybe they should have because that hypochondria kind of turned into some more issues because he started to believe that he didn't have enough blood, that his blood was turning to powder. Uh-oh. And the only way to stop this from happening was to add water to it. No, no, get more blood. So he started adopting pets And doing experiments on himself, Carl

And he did this stuff for a while Until one day he decided to slaughter a rabbit That he got from a shelter For a living? This guy has a job or anything? His parents paid for his apartment See, that's the problem And What he did with the blood from the rabbit

Was he injected it into his own veins Did he chuck to see if it was the right blood type first? Nope I think you should probably do that No, he became very ill and was hospitalized And when his parents went to his apartment they were horrified to find animal carcasses and blood and all sorts like basically a slaughterhouse inside of this apartment and they're like Jesus Christ our kid fucked up again we're going to lose the security deposit Cheryl oh bitch bitch bitch so they have him committed yes okay so he's in the nut hut and he does like this Renfield deal you know remember Renfield of the old Dracula where he's sitting there trying to eat bugs and shit he would sit there and wait by the window of his area And when a bird would land by the sill, he got very good at grabbing birds and pulling the back in.

Nice. And he would snap their necks and start drinking their blood. They caught him doing this twice. Interesting. They also let him. So he learned how to actually drink something. Could have done that with the orange too, buddy. He treated it like a fucking tab, dude, like a tab fucking cola.

Okay. Glug, gog, glug, glug. Down the hatch. Tab reference. 78. Yeah. Come on. I get points for that.

I agree. So here's the fucked up part. He also stole syringes from one of the nurses stations, and they had therapy dogs. They caught him sticking the syringes into therapy dogs trying to pull blood out of them. I don't think that they should allow the inmates to steal syringes. Correct. Seems like they should have done a better job with that. Now, by 1977, Carl, they had diagnosed him as paranoid schizophrenic.

We've got same as your guy. And after going a battery of treatments involving psychiatric drugs, guess what? They decided he's fine. He's good. Let him out. He's good. Take your meds. We're good.

Yeah. Just keep away from birds, dogs and rabbits and any other animal and should be all right. Well, was he all right, Vinny? Well, he was released into his mother's custody. On the edge of my seat over here. He was just, you know, he went home with his mom. But after a while, he decided that, you know, mom's trying to poison my blood. I should probably go out and find another apartment.

because you know that's what was going on clearly yeah and he finds the want ads it gets an apartment with these guys and this is what i've read about this this this ludic past his saying long enough to let these guys for these friends these people had an apartment together to rent their empty room to this guy they said they didn't know him very well he called them his best friends from the day he moved in she's like hey guys we're all best friends now yeah and they're like okay hi they said he used a lot of drugs same way your guy did okay he was constantly high what kind of drugs uh a lot of weed uh lots of other stuff i think he was doing some uh i don't know if he was doing acid i think acid you see kids in the 70s weed was considered a drug yes those were the days

yeah now he also would walk around the apartment completely naked okay And they said, dude, you can't live here anymore. Stop being naked. You're constantly being a problem. You're creeping out everybody. Could you please move out? He said, no. It just went back into his room.

And these guys tried to get him out for months. And then you know what they decided to do? What's that? They all moved out. Yeah, wow. They just fucking said, fine. Keep it, but we can't deal with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was their place. He all lasted them. He had lasted though. Now, during this time, now he's living there by himself doing all the drugs he wants to deliver you by himself and no one is supervising him i don't know if he knows this but uh drugs are bad you shouldn't do drugs well guess what he starts doing now now he comes up with this new favorite drink okay animal blood mixed with soda so what he does is he starts killing animals and then mixing it

and just having himself a coke and a like coconut soda part of that sounds pretty good yeah i would do that i'm fine with half the recipe yeah Now, one night in August of 1977, all of this could have been stopped. Everything I'm about to tell you that happened could have been stopped. The police find him in Lake Tahoe, naked, covered in blood, carrying a bucket of blood with a liver in the back of his pickup truck. Okay. They realize that it's a cow liver and they go, oh, this is from a cow, have a good night, sir. I mean, in this country, we do slaughter cows all the time.

I'm just nonstop day and night. So that's not unusual. Yeah. So what I'm saying here is Carl, the cops saw a problem and decided to look the other way. Yep. We don't want to deal with this. Correct.

Now, this guy is slipped through all the cracks in the system because his family, again, doesn't like him and doesn't want to be around him. He's in this apartment by himself. He's no longer their problem. So it was around December 29th, 1977. He was feeling very lonely that. his mother hadn't allowed him to come home for Christmas,

and he was feeling very upset. So he starts driving around, and he sees a gentleman. He's 51 years old. His name is Ambrose Griffin. He's helping his wife bring in some groceries. He drives by. He had somehow gotten his hands on a 22 caliber pistol, says, hey, sir, the guy turns around and shoots him in the chest and drives off.

Okay. This was his first murder. This also started a new fun phase in his life, trying people's doorknobs. Oh, that's fun. It's almost like when the old pay phones, you check to see if there was a diamond there or something. Yes, and this is where he really gets the nickname of the vampire of Sacramento

because he told cops later, hey, listen, if I saw a locked door, I just kept going. But if the door was open, the door was open. Well, a vampire has to be invited in, though. Yeah, well. So I don't know what that has to do with being a vampire. That's where he got the nickname from, Carl. And I'm telling you the truth.

That's stupid. Well, not as stupid as you. your face. Shee. Shit. So less than two weeks later, Chase walks into the house of a married couple while they were out.

He steals some shit, pisses in all of the drawers with all of their clothing in it. That seems unnecessary. And then took a shit on their son's bag. Okay, that's funny. The couple returned home while Chase was still inside the house.

The husband attacked him, but Chase was able to flee because he's wiry and he's quick. He continued running around on shitting, so he's feeling light on his feet. he certainly was uh he continued running around the neighborhood trying people's doors or random houses to see if they were unlocked and now here we are january 23rd 1978 here we go this is where why this man is the creepiest person of 1978 all right chase entered the home

of teresa wallen who was very very pregnant through an unlocked front door as he entered he encountered Teresa she was walking to go take out the garbage. He pulled out his 22 caliber pistol, aimed it at her, shot her in the head. He then knelt down over Teresa's lifeless body and fired an additional shot into her temple at point-blank range before dragging her into the bedroom, leaving a trail of blood. The 27-year-old then raped Teresa's corpse and fetched a knife from the kitchen, which he used to repeatedly stab her. Chase then carved her corpse open, removed several of her organs,

and collected her blood in a bucket, which he then took into the bathroom to bathe in, and smear across all the walls he then returned to teresa's corpse sliced off her nipple drank her blood from a yogurt container he found inside of the trash bag that she was going to take out and before leaving he then went out to the backyard collected some dog shit walked in and shoved it in the mouth of the corpse and then he left this is not a joke okay two days after that they found Teresa's body. Chase purchased two puppies from a nearby neighbor, which he killed, drank the blood of and left the discarded bodies of them on a neighbor's lawn. I hope it wasn't you, Gene. Chase's final murders would come on January 27th of 1978 when he entered the home of 38-year-old

Evelyn Miroth, who was babysitting her one-month-old nephew, David. Also inside the house was Evelyn's sick-year-old son, Jason, and a friend Dan Meredith, the neighbor who came over to check on her. Evelyn was in the bath while Dan watched the kids. He went into the front hallway as Chase entered the home and was shot immediately at Point Blank Rage. Chase shot Jason as he attempt to run into his mom's bedroom to hide. So now he's murdered a seven-year-old and the neighbor. He also executed David, the baby at Point Blank Rage. This is a one-month-old baby.

He then walked into the bathroom. Those are easy to kill, by the way. Fish in a fucking barrel. Not that impressive, to be honest with you. He then shot Evelyn once in the head while she was in the bathtub, dragged her corpse onto the bed where he had sex with it, while simultaneously drinking her blood from a series of cuts he made with a knife

at the back of her neck. Once he finished, Che stabbed Evelyn's corpse half a dozen times in the asshole and other parts of her body. He then cut her body open, removed several organs, and once again started drinking her blood. Chase then went to retrieve baby David's corpse.

He split the skull open and started eating out the brains. Then there's a knock at the door. Turns out little Jason, the one he shot already had a friend coming over that day to play oh how fun not for the friend oh well this kid was very very lucky because this freaked out uh fucking richard he freaks out and steals the woman's keys jumps in her car and peels away with the kids standing there at the front door going can jason come out to play has no idea what's fucking happening okay so he goes back home to his parents is like hey something weird just happened some weirdo ran out they went over there found

the bodies and because he fled so quickly he left full fucking handprints and footprints. Sure. They were able to trace him down five days later. Now, she I forgot to mention something when he ran out really quickly. One of the

things he took with him. Yeah. The one month old whose brains he was eating. Oh yeah, he was still, he wasn't done yet. With a go bag? Yeah. Yeah. Well, they found Richard, uh, they found him five days after this had happened and arrested him. Yeah. They didn't find the baby till like a month later and they found the baby missing its head behind a church so he just went back there to finish his snack after he went away he went sat behind a church

eating a baby raw your guy was at least cooking shit okay so after his arrest police go to his apartment and they find the walls floor ceiling refrigerating and all of chases eating and drinking utensils were covered in blood and then on may 8th nineteen 79 after after his trial. He was found guilty of six counts of first degree murder. They also rejected his not guilty by reason of insanity plea and sentence him to the gas chamber. Okay. And because he's a piece of shit, he found a way to commit suicide in jail before we could kill him.

So ladies and gentlemen, my biggest creep of 1978 is very clearly Richard Chase, the vampire of Sacramento. Let's do the right thing, people. Give Richard Chase's due and make Carl spin the wheel. or you can go to the creepoff.com and vote for Carl and we'll have Vinnie spinning the wheel next week on the creep up either way the wheel will be spun next week on the creep off unless there's a tie or something which it did happen one time I think there was one tie and then we played like a sudden death round but next week folks what we do every time we start a new round because we will be starting a new round next week we'll be wild card so okay cool wild card next week

let's some of your suggestions please yeah i'll take them too thank you said your pal viddy some suggestions how much help me out for once guys we appreciate i'm a nice guy i do good things for people what that's what everybody says what you talking about since when nice things for people what's an example what's a single example i let you get away without wearing a dolphin's jersey to the game i did wear a dolphin's jersey of the game okay you wore a movie prop that was the wrong color i have plenty of evidence. I wore it up WATP on Saturday. You can see it. Yeah. It's not a dolphin's journey of evidence. Well, let me ask

this question. Is there a dolphin's logo on it? So Saturday night, I go to Buffalo. I go to Orchard Park because driving to the stadium from Rochester takes a long time and there's traffic and I don't like setting an alarm clock and I don't like to get up early. So I'm like, I'll just go there

the night before. I want to see my buddy who lives in Buffalo. Anyway, long story short. So I get an Airbnb in Orchard Park. And the way that this house is set up is that I have the downstairs people who live there have the upstairs like a duplex kind of thing so I'm downstairs to like 11 o'clock at night on Saturday night I'm in the kitchen I'm on my computer doing whatever I got to do and I hear knock on the door I had locked the doors so I open it up this fucking Coke had and his girlfriend walk in like oh hey man

what's going on man hey oh we're staying here too all right hey man cool we just went to the sabers game today and yeah then we went over to this museum hey man so And I'm stuck talking to this fucking Coke head in this kitchen that I had to share the bathroom with them. It became a whole fucking thing. Airbnb. You'll look find in a mirror. They probably took them all. Airbnb.

Sometimes we'll screw you over. I don't know if you've noticed that before. Oh, yeah. Sometimes you got to live with a Coke head and his girlfriend. Like I don't even mind the hidden cameras or the double mirrors. No, it's fine. Just don't make me share a bathroom with the strangers. Oh, I'm asking.

It's the worst. Do you want to catch up on Super Chats before we go down your side? Yes. All right. Dang Lizard, thanks for the five bucks. Sorry, Carl, your best is still a club foot away from what a real person can do, you lazy smile talker. Vinny Spinney, the S.J. Cock.

Hold on a second. Who does Dang Lizard like? I'm wildly confused. I thought he was an ally over here for some reason. Well, listen, there's no allies in this game. We're all just dancing for the people. You are the S.J. Cock. Vote for Carl if you think that Vinny's the S.J. cock.

Okay. Cool vagina hat, Vince. thank you I never never looked at that logo that way before no it makes a lot of sense uh that's why cobra was the coolest that's true Dela says vote Carl thank you Dela you know what

and vote stuttering John for U.S. Senate I don't know if he's on the ballot I don't think he's on the ballot he might not be but he was trying to beat Diane Feinstein and uh lucky for him nature took care of that for him God was able to step in and take care of that

well i lost that cool uh de lavinny hates eugene vote car oh i did hear about that how what do you mean i hate eugene that's what i that's everyone's saying they're saying i hate eugene the b sean frisier yep that's what they're saying well that's just fucking slander and libel well that's a good reason to vote for carl she's a desist very good reason to vote for carl if you ask me yeah i am uh i am no trader sir you see that out there i was wondering i was looking at the same one bubble popper 24 voting for curle only because minnie is a traitor i have no traitor sir no traitor now i think that means it's time to go for our next segment car on we don't even have a proper no intro for our i don't you know we we did who are these creepos was always the second segment or the fourth or

whatever whatever segment we're on in the show yeah but right now we're having a lot of fun doing some other stuff i've been enjoying doing some other stuff lately i think you're going to like this one i found Is it a good change of pace for you, though? It is. Not to have to listen to other podcasts a little bit. Yeah, especially because a lot of the true crime podcasts are very similar. It's just people dryly reading the internet or cracking themselves up over things that are not funny. Yeah.

So that gets a little bit old. So what I decided to do is check out another code blue cam. Boom. And I think you're going to enjoy this one, Vinny, because it involves one of your favorite things. It involves a guy in a Walmart molesting a 10-year-old girl. I don't like that happens. Which I know you're a big fan. No. What I enjoy is those people being caught for their crimes.

Okay. Not the crimes themselves, Carl. That's crazy. What do you think of me? You ready? Let's do it. On May 22nd, 2021, a man followed a 10-year-old girl through multiple aisles in Walmart and touched her inappropriately in Annalasca, Wisconsin. The man was later identified as 30-year-old Josie Amman. All right. So, Joe C.A.M.A.M. see I'm on he touches this 10 year old girl the girl tells her mom right away and so the mom goes to confront him he flees out of the Walmart gets in his pickup truck and goes now there's really no way to identify this guy right so what the cops were able to do because the mom saw him at the subway restaurant

inside the Walmart before this incident happened so they were able to subpoena who used their debit cards and credit cards at that subway that day or on that time, and they were able to figure out who this person was. So this is, they track down where he works, if you play my next track. You got it. Five months later, police confronted Josie at his place of employment. So he's got a bodega here, a little restaurant. Hey, Josie.

Officer Flack. This was a little bit more. urgent for me, so I decided to just come down and talk to you here. I need to talk to you about an incident where you're my suspect. Okay. Do you have any idea what I'm referring to? Okay. You ever been to the on Alaska Walmart?

Times for the target. Okay. So this guy comes out from the back. Apparently, the police officer was trying to make a time to meet with him. And the guy's like, I'm just really, really busy. Maybe next week or something. So the guy's like, fuck this. I'm just going to go to where he works and talk to him.

Yeah, he grabbed a 10-year-old or you're coming to see you, motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to come there and chat with you about this. I really am immediately drawn to those shifty eyes on this guy. Oh, yeah, just his posture and everything, he looks guilty to me. I could be wrong. And you know what, man, if I was a judge, I wouldn't even have the trial. Look at this face. Well, they haven't yet.

I'll get to that in a minute. So they show him a photo of him in the Walmart. from the surveillance. Now, they don't actually have him touching the girl on the surveillance camera. So he might be in luck there, but they do have him there. They show him a picture of his truck, his pickup truck that he drove away in. He's just said they're going, that's not me. That's not my truck. Nope. Shaggy over here. I mean, I do have a white pickup truck that's the same make and model, but that's obviously not my truck. So he's just denied 99. The cops going, look at, man, this is obvious. You really don't think that looks like you? You really don't think you've

changed that much at five months. So this is what happens on that. No one was expecting this. What do you share with you look a lot like you? Huh? No, I don't know. No? Okay.

Turn on, put your hands on your back. Nope. He starts running. Next time, a lady. David, you can't answer? I know. Okay.

he got to see you at just for Parker in his face. Stop! He's not listening. He's not listening. Stop! He's high stepping now. What the fuck is that? He got winded.

Okay. What's so funny about this to me? Where is this guy going to go? They know his name. know where he works like what did he think he was going to do run away from them and just avoid them for the rest of his life this is one of those scenarios where he's like fuck it i'll figure it out later yeah right i just know that i'm not going to have a chance in court like because because here's the thing that this cap did to this kid that i think what they've seen this before well no i'm just

going off of what we just talked about i have seen this video but i didn't know why the guy was running i just saw in a montage of clips and i recognized his face okay um so if they showed him the camera footage of his car in the parking lot combined with the camera footage of him in the store and knowing that there's eyewitnesses and they were able to track him down via his card to the time to the place and they're telling him all of this he's already thinking i don't think i'm getting away with this shit well it's interesting because like i said the only witness to what actually happened him groping this girl or it's actually assaulting this girl is the girl and it's not that part is not on video oh yeah so if they told him that i would just put like take me to court let's go

yeah right so actually this is kind of interesting because once the cop finally catches his breath and they bring this guy up this is the exchange between the two of them hold on great comment duard christian says this is a commercial for his sneakers good call bad not bad here we go are you injured at all i don't know okay i think i'm sick need help what do you mean like like you're going to puke right now or something else else yeah officer he enjoys grabbing 10 year old's butts that's what he's talking about when he says he's sick and he needs help that's what he's talking about yeah you really do they don't even know how to wipe oh they're disgusting 10 year old butts oh they're the worst um so this is my my last uh clip on

here just to wrap things up. Josie was charged with felony first-degree sexual assault of a girl under the age of 13 and misdemeanor resisting an officer. He was free on a $2,500 signature bond and could face up to a 60-year prison sentence if he is convicted. Wow. That's a heavy sentence. Well, that seems to nush.

Yeah, that seems nuts. But so I looked it up. One little tushy grab. This happened back in December of. 2021. We are now in October of 2023 and this is the latest update I could get. Josie

Amman is now 32 years old and is still being held in detention as of now. There's no news about his trial for the crime that he has committed. So he's still waiting. What was the date on the article? This article was from two months ago.

Still awaiting trial. That's insane. I know. Nothing ever fucking happens. But you know, what though i'm fine with just keeping the petos locked up as long as possible i guess here yeah but the speedy trial thing was something we're supposed to have there's also that slippery slope slope argument here if you do find yourself on the wrong end of this yeah and they just have the ability to fuck you forever sure uh that's kind of scary understood systems fucked up carl let's uh hit a couple super chats here um well one hey eugene bark bark you jean hates petos

bark bark very good who wouldn't love eugene good boy good boy good boy good boy june what a good good dog all right carl i guess that means it's time for some voicemails all right and they're brought to us by our friends in syracuse the creepoff voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of syracuse move over taylor swift and travis kelsey there's a new football romance syracuse quarterback garrett schrader has been seen with that one prostitute that smells like bath salts Her fans are super excited Or as they call themselves Snifties See you in Sarah I see what he did there

All right First voicemail came in last Monday Hey Carl Hey Vinny Longtime listener first time calling her I'm calling in with a creep report That creep is actually me Long story short

I was supposed to hook up with a chick I have some titty picks And unfortunately she died last week What I haven't deleted them So, A, am I the creep for not deleting these picks? And B, should I delete them to begin with? How old is this one? Bye.

I was going to say, what do you do, a picture is like a 95-year-old's tiths? Yeah, I know, exactly. That sounds awful. Wow. Well, I guess my advice is, you know, when somebody's gone, do you want to have something to remember them by? That's true. Yes.

And what better thing than a titty pick? Yeah. Is this you, Chong Munch? Is this you? I think he just heard his own voicebook. Oh, wow. Okay. She was 26 years old.

How did she die, Chong Munch? What got her, Chong? Yeah, give us five bucks and let us know. We're on pins and needles here. All right. That's terrible. I'm sorry to hear that. So I guess you didn't get late.

Is that what you were telling me? Carl, this is a very funny idea and it's not too hard of a stretch for you. Okay. Wheel of consequence idea that we could add for next week. It's football season. this is pretty good. Hey, Vinny.

Hey, Carl. I've got a consequence idea. And it's pretty simple. Both of you should be able to do this. And if you don't put it on the wheel, you're both panties. And it is get the same haircut as Mark Davis, the coach of the Raiders. It would be hilarious. It would just be a hilarious consequence because you guys, you know,

you do fucking live video broadcast and then you just have that stupid haircut. I can imagine Carl on all this dumb podcast just having that stupid hair. Do it. I got a picture of Mark Davis for everybody who doesn't know who he is. So this is the owner of the Raiders. The Raiders.

And I can't believe no one tells him how stupid he looks. Doesn't he look like he could be Opie's dumb brother? Yes. He looks terrible. I can't even make my hair do that. I don't think. I don't even know if I could pull that off. God damn it, what a

fuck you. That's funny. He's a multi-gigillionaire. Chongmuch said that she fell and busted her head at work. Ooh, sounds like she's clumsy. I say keep the pictures and share them. She won't mind now. Yep, she won't mind. Send them to us. I have a...

26 years old. That's tragic. I'm sorry to hear that. It is bad. I'm sorry, though. I have a voicemail for us. I don't think I played this yet. Hey, Carl. I'm just saying, I love all your shows. especially to creep off and who are these socials and thanks for not killing yourself, man.

Provide great content. Keep it up, dude. All right. And thank you for not killing yourself. That goes double from me. That's right. Thanks, pal. This is the conservative atheist.

And my recommendation, if somebody hasn't already made it, is to put wearing the cow bikini in Walmart for at least 20 to 30 minutes shopping from the time you enter to the time you leave. I think that'd be pretty goddamn hilarious. Whichever one you end up having to do it. Adding that to the real consequences would be excellent.

Love the show, guys. Take care. Bye. No one would even bat an eye. That's the thing I'm trying to decide. No one would even notice the fucking lunatics in Walmarts. You would blunder right in with that. And also, the cobblanky

Walmart blasting pornography and no one even wanted. No one reacted I couldn't believe it. It didn't make any sense to me. I have a creep watching porn on my phone and don't give it fuck. But I will say this. The cow bikini was given out at dabblecon and somebody has it and I don't anymore. Well, not the one that you had,

not the one that you wore for your picture. You gave it away? Yeah, I gave that one away. Lucky winner. Grand Wellington says Cowgirl outfit. Cowgirl. Yeah. Cowgirl Carl. Carl. No, no more cow bikinis. That's a phase that over we're moving on now their lives yeah uh i got one more and i'm actually going to message this person back i'm not going to play this i'm not going to get into because i don't want to get into

the minutia of john show but somebody bought like the VIP and the regular ticket because of you great so that person who left a voicemail uh just send me send an email to the creep off email and i'll help you get it worked out pal good job because of me so someone fucked up and now they're blaming it on me okay all right because you were spreading misinformation all right i guess that means it is time for everyone's favorite subjects everybody's favorite segment the scum parade scum parade take me on a raid of these fuchsia raids that these creeps have made tell you about some fuck shit scum parade

like stories of a kid fucked by his mom or dad soaking up the blood of a cat scum parade Carl would it surprise you if I told you my first marcher in the scum parade today is a cop not at all Benny not at all

really yeah okay good i'm glad we both operate from the same place of cynicism yes a married pennsylvania state police trooper is facing false imprisonment charges after he allegedly violently detained his ex-girlfriend and committed her to a mental health treatment program under bogus claims you're under arrest for breaking up with me you're under arrest for not sharing that pussy anymore so sir why do you want to uh commit this woman because you said quote she was crazy for dumping you yes that's gonna fly do you have the video about of this my chance do i car okay because do i i have to say in the cop's defense she does look crazy and i'll show you some of the video i didn't really clip it up too much it's kind of long but we

could just kind of give you an idea of what's going on here i mean tell tell me that's not a crazy woman right there what is wrong with you i don't need help you to get away from you no no no This is normal. I don't care what anybody said. Can I please stand up? It's like he didn't do anything. I'm not going to any jail. I didn't do anything wrong.

I'm not going anywhere. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. What is wrong with you? Yeah, what is wrong with you, sir? So basically, what's happening here? Is this guy's gaslighting the shit out of this? a bit yeah and he's just going no you need help i mean she needs help she clearly needs mental help

look at the way she's protesting i'm just trying to help her i'm just trying to help her and look at listen to her go she's just going on and on and on all i'm doing is helping i've lived all over the world and not one time has anyone ever come up tackled me attacked me and called the cops on me for existing in the woods no not even in sweet really sure all right that's that's kind of the vibe of what's happening here but yeah there is a there's a take down there is some rustling that goes out in this video as well but you get the point yeah i'm not going to show violence because youtube fucking oh yeah i never can find any violence on youtube it's all i was watching today and i was trying to find good videos to play on here well i'll

tell you where you won't find any of that kind of content on subredded surfing we're clean as a whistle over there god yeah i forgot you're still a little angry with uh with youtube or this well hey by the way tonight and subverted surfing yes we will be having our rose ceremony and crowning our new producer oh nice so i thought that we lost all the voting or something we have uh well we went for something we we found the results you did of where they were at the time but the poll was still open okay but we were able to um decide on a course of action taking the vote into account and suburb is serving still on youtube even though you've been demonetized yes but we did set up a patreon So if you want to support the show, we're not doing super chats.

We're not doing members on the channel. If you want to, or find subreditsurfing.com. It's a link to our Patreon if you want to support the show. Very good. Moving on. Davis, Ronald Davis, he's 37. He was arrested Thursday on accusations. He abused his authority to carry out the twisted takedown that left his former girlfriend improperly stuck in a medical facility for multiple days.

Wow. Davis reportedly told her, I know you're not crazy. I'll paint you as crazy. leading up to forced medical treatment. The victim claimed according to court documents. His quest to have his ex-committed began on August 21st when he sought help from fellow troopers because he said the victim,

identified by the district attorney as MF, had mental health problems. On advice from state police, Davis, off duty of the time, contacted county officials via his police email account and identified himself as a trooper to obtain an order after he submitted purported texts from her in which she threatened suicide. So he is contacting the right people

from his official account with texts that he claims are her threatening to hurt herself. Now, once he got the order approved, the trooper went after this woman who he had dated for about four months. Yep. It seems intense for four months.

Well, she's trying to say that he displays controlling behavior. I don't see any evidence of that. He says, I'll take, the response I'll take care of it myself in the email I'll take care of it I got it guys we don't do anything else davis and a civilian companion found the victim in a picnic area in state force where he picked her up and carried her to his car before the two struggled on the ground Davis is seen sitting on top of his exes he claimed he tackled her to the ground

according to the footage captured by the man who accompanied him she also said she didn't need help and wanted to get away from the cop you're insane she said you're absolutely insane and you paint me to look insane. As she made a move to get free, Davis manhand with her and kept her on the ground in a wrestling style hold. Which, let me see if I could find that part here. So, don't worry about it. Yeah, no, I think we get the gist of this. Yeah. So she suffered some injuries from that. She was involuntary committed for five days. Five days. She had to prove that she wasn't crazy. So basically what happened was she texted him something like, I'd rather kill myself than spend one more night with you.

And so he's like, she's suicidal. Better get professionals involved. No, no, no, no. She was not suicidal. She doesn't like you. She doesn't want to hang out with you anymore. Now, here's the fun part. Now he's been arrested.

Here's the statement. Well, Trooper Davis provided text messages from the victim. Yeah. Proported them to be suicidal. He failed to provide the full context of those messages. Right. In fact, the text message were the culmination of a larger domestic abuse between him and the victim, taken in context.

The text revealed her frustration with Trooper Davis and his controlling behavior, not a desire to harm him or herself. And he's married with a family. Right. So he might be in the wrong on this one, but he I don't say that very often. I don't know if I'm going to be on his side on this. He might be the guy who's the creep in this one. Yeah. He's being charged with felony strangulation, unlawful restraint, false imprisonment, and simple assault.

False imprisonment seems like a big one, right? That's a really bad one. Yeah, he probably gets in some trouble for that. I would imagine. Yeah, I mean, well, kidnapping is a federal offense. Sure. So that's one step below kidnapping. Hmm.

A woman accused of attempting to kill her husband with bleach has been arrested, Carl. Okay. Now, Melody Feliciano Johnson was arrested in August in charge with the attempted murder of her, soon to be ex-husband Roby Johnson. She had previously filed for divorce, but they lived together while the process was finalized. A series of hidden cameras were set up by Roby, suspicious of his wife. Oh, he doesn't trust his wife?

Nope. Huh. And he had good reason to. Oh, okay. Because he noticed that his coffee started tasting odd. Yeah. He's got a reason. He's like, my coffee doesn't taste right.

Something's wrong here. I have to say. Did she switch my brand? Bleach has a pretty strong odor and flavor. So I don't know if that's going to work real well. It's going to be pretty obvious, I would think. Really bad choice. And I'm not going to tell you what to use, but there are things that.

are a lot better for this type that's so funny i was actually going to ask you if you wanted to kill your husband how would you do it my husband yeah how would you kill your husband i go to carl's imagination land and find whoever you think i'm married to and uh yeah use anaphrase oh good smart thanks makes sense a little tummy ache next thing you know no more vittie's husband what's the matter steve not feeling well I know it. So he set up cameras like on the coffee maker, which, you know, I'm pretty obsessive about my coffee too.

Like if something's wrong with it, I want to know, I want to get to the bottom of it. Now, one of the cameras caught melody in the act, pouring a mystery substance from a large bottle into a smaller container before adding it into the coffee machine. The alleged poison plot was caught on the ring indoor camera, which these aren't even really hidden cameras. No.

She should know it's right there. Yeah, she's pretty stupid. Yep. Not only was the water riddled. So the other thing that he filmed was he took water from inside of the coffee machine and he used a swimming pool test kit to read the pH levels. Yep. And it said there's an extraordinarily high amount of chlorine.

Right. And not only was it riddled with corine, they had a bunch of other harmful chemicals in it. And he said his machine stinks like bleach. So he took it to the cops And Melody is now under arrest Now she recently bought a house in the Philippines And she was planning on heading back there Smart, yeah

They believe the motive for this was insurance money That she was the beneficiary on his life insurance So pretty good motivation She's not going anywhere She's in trouble Carl Ventura California A jury found a 42 year old man guilty Of attempted murder and aggravated mayhem

Okay is there another type of mayhem not sure is there like hysterical mayhem could be that'd be fun that'd be a fun type of mayhem like it was really wrong of you to do what you did but we admit it was funny yes hysterical mayhem might be the name of this episode a jury found a 42 year old man guilty of attempting to murder his son with a sledgehammer while he was asleep hold on a second he couldn't get the job done the guy's asleep and he's got a sledgehammer and he couldn't get the job done. Yeah.

That's embarrassing. The kid is 24 years old, so maybe he wasn't as light of a sleeper. Or he was a lighter sleeper than he assumed and heard the dad coming to the room. That's embarrassing, man. You've got to put an end to that one. Anthony Nardini was convicted of attempted murder. Like I said, aggravated mayhem and assault with a deadly weapon in connection with the attack on his son. Now, according to the district attorney's office, Nardini and his son, who remained unnamed,

had recently reconnected after being estranged. Nice to be back, Pop. Good to see you again. The two resided in an unincorporated part of Ventura County, so no cops. And they got into a physical altercation the night of March 19, 2023. Family members reportedly broke up the fight, and Nardini went out to his car. When he came back inside, the victim was sleeping on his couch. Nardini reportedly insisted the others of the house go to bed.

Hey, guys, maybe it's a good time. Shh, don't wake him up. maybe it's a good time for all of you to go to bed because yeah just go to bed we don't want to wake him up every he had a rough day we got into a fight it's cool just go to sleep uh that's what he got to sledgehammer and attempted to beat his son to death members rushed downstairs because they really didn't go to sleep yet i mean this really wasn't a well thought out play it he didn't wait an hour right uh they came downstairs and the victim was suffering from a severe head injury and nardini fled the scene deputies who arrived at the home reporter located a bloody sledgehammer outside Medics rushed the son to the hospital. We've placed in medically induced coma for several days. The son did survive. I would hate to be this guy's cellmate. Like if you're going to do an argument with him one day.

That's a good point. Yeah. That would suck. We don't want to take a nap around this guy. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't sleep around this. This guy was in my jail cell. They'll call me wide awake Paulino.

Yep. Wow. This guy's fucking Gallagher act sucked. you're right though he didn't kill him he got him though he definitely got him good of blood he got him good yeah senior senior deputy district attorney said well this conviction will never repair the emotional physical scars inflicted by the father we hope that this affirmation by the jury will bring some solace to the young man who doesn't know what his name is anymore was experienced an unfathomable attack oh you don't think that settled the argument is that what you're

saying no okay did i ever tell you what my dad did to my brother no what's that my dad it was kind of an asshole and my brother is also an asshole we've talked about my brother on the show my brother is a legendary dumb fuck I want to say this had to have been way before I was born my brother was maybe 15 or 16

and his my dad and his mom were divorced and my dad had a lot of girlfriends hanging out of the house and apparently my brother put the moves on one of them nice no my dad found out about it you didn't like that no no no He, uh, he said, hey, he yelled, Jr. I got to talk to you with the garage.

And my brother tells me the story, he walked into the garage. And the next thing he knew, the first thing he saw was a shovel come flying at his face. Whoa, you got butt slam! And he fucking woke up like an hour later. Really? You're dead smashed him on the head with a shovel? Yeah. That might be why he's so fucked up.

That might be why, Betty. You might not have always been this dumb. I thought about it. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, he fucking. I'm going to scrabber. his brains a little bit with that. Yeah, I think you may have. Wow. Don't fuck with dad's girls. I guess not. Yeah. My dad was a problem. What are these days I might do? I had

someone send me a bunch of research into the crimes of my father. Really? Yeah. Was another family member? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. I have like newspaper clippids. I got, I mean, if I had to go down this, there's like, uh, he hits somebody with a car. and left the seed. What an asshole! Armed robbery. What did you do? A couple things in there.

And I don't think he got arrested for the smacking my brother's shovel. Yeah, he was a problem. Yeah, it sounds like a fun time. That might be an interesting bonus episode who could read all the articles. Was your dad a drinker? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. Okay.

Yeah. It didn't end well for him. Alcohol is bad. You shouldn't drink alcohol. Crimes of My Father, the new book from Vinnie Pauley, you know. I'd read it. It'd be short. All right.

Last story today. An Oregon woman. Oh, fuck. I forgot to pull the Oregon clip. Oh, did you? Oregon! Oregon! A woman who shoved her 13-month-old son into a freezer

and allegedly admitted that she waterboarded him out of spite to test the loyalty of her child's father has been sentenced to 30 days in jail. I got to say that for all the different reasons why you'd want to torture your one year old son out of spite is probably the worst one yeah probably the worst excuse yeah that's really loyalty is not a good reason to hurt a baby shardy which is a great name yep sharday i like shardy it sounds funnier shardt of gresham origan did not kill her son during the abusive episode on i in october twenty twenty one not from a lack of trying correct The 30-year-old mother did, however, plead guilty to first-degree criminal mistreatment.

Now, she got 30-day jail sentence, supervised probation for three years. Now, let me tell you what she did. If I'm this one-year-old kid, I'm filing for a restraining order. I don't want this woman anywhere near me. So back then, social services got a call. They sent someone to do a welfare check at the house. Now, according to the probable cause affidavit obtained by law and crime, when police arrived, they could hear McDonald through the door screaming at someone on her front.

own, that person was later identified as the child's father. Okay. I'm about to show you real quick. You don't want him. Let me show you about this little motherfucker baby. I don't give a fuck about that fucking baby. Fuck you. McDonald could be heard yelling as the people for child services are standing outside.

That's not good. When police knocked out the door, the talking stopped, the McDonald opened in a moment later, holding her son in a blanket. Defendant Shereena Brianna McDonnell told police that she was not trying to hurt harm her killer her son by drowning him or putting him in the freezer. what was she trying to do that because that's i mean was you trying to figure out where they're hiding osama bin laden what did she think she was doing with this she said she had done this not to try to kill him but out of spite to the father uh-huh yeah the officer who arrested

reported that he reviewed pictures of the child being abused oh she took photos of it too that's smart yeah and the father arrived at the sea the officer said it appeared that the baby was trying to hold his breath as water was being poured down his face and over his nose yeah the old waterboarding fun stuff and one of the photos shared police the child was almost being held upside down in a onesie as water flowed over him she allegedly told police after arrest she had done these things to her son to test the father and see if he gave a fuck at all well she doesn't so why does he have to i'm confused yeah don't put this on me yeah right prosecutors who spoke with the pediatrician to review the images said it was very likely the child had to struggle to breathe and that it probably

could have killed them they had to talk to a pediatrician to know the Children need air in order to survive. Thanks, Doc. We got it. I remember that ship in biology. No shit. McDonald's charged with two counts of criminal mistreatment in the first degree,

plus reckless endangerment of an individual. Prosecutors also charged her with account of identity theft and tampering with a witness, though that was related to another case. As part of the deal before sentencing this week, she pled guilty to the mistreatment, identity theft, and witness tampering charges. So she pled guilty to all of it.

And she got 30 days. She waterboarded a baby. It got 30 days at Oregon. Are you out of it's so bizarre 30 days you worked in restaurants before right yeah you know the walk in freezer yeah I don't like to spend a lot of time in there we have one back here comfortable yeah dude if I have to run back there for anything you're in there like 30 seconds back for real it's not fun so if I'm getting thrown into a freezer when I'm one years old I'm guessing that's uncomfortable yeah well Carl that was this week's scum parade and as always pal it was great to do a show with you thank you for being here don't forget to go to the creepoff.com to vote for Carl and then you can watch Vinny Spin the Wheel next week. Or you could listen to the episode, decide for yourself

who you thought brought the bigger creep. And I think I made it a lot easier to make that decision with my presentation. And you can go vote and make sure that the person who deserves to spin the wheel spins the wheel. Maybe the guy who didn't wear a Dolphins jersey or drive to Gary Indiana. Marry that guy. And then when you vote

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yes sir let's get out of here let's do it it's nice to be important it's more important to be nice Gagia and whatnot and whatnot It's the cream off.

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