The Creep Off - Episode 242: The/Rapist

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Karl is back this week, and the contest continues as our hosts make their nominations for creepiest psychologist: Karl’s Cop Cam features a woman who had the time of her life before her salon appointment. Plus, in the Scum Parade we meet an awesome grandpa, a perverted teacher and a father whose DIY project went very wrongThe score is currently Vinnie 2 - Karl 0, visit thecreepoff.com to vote and decide this week’s winnerCheck out the Scum Parade stories: Police: 71-year-old man punches off-duty officer after his granddaughter was detainedNaked teacher caught inside school with sex toys, drugs and women's underwear: copsIndiana Man Tried to Suffocate His Mother With Plastic Wrap – Crime OnlineTyler & Bailey Gibson arrested performing botched circumcision on sonCheck out this week’s Cop Cam Here: Woman led chase from New Braunfels to Alamo QuarryWant to support the show? Find us on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to get exclusive merch an extra bonus episode every week! Don’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108You can follow our Results girl Danni on Instagram @Danni_Desolation

Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo! Disgusting

Disgusting thing thing Oh, Oh, Cripo's welcome to another episode of your favorite true crime podcast the show about creeps by creeps for you creeps i'm your host my name is viti and joining me today he is my arch nemesis and we kind of were pals it's carl what's happening bini paul you know you just had a thought that the very end of our intro there that you hear sean the audio engineer it's one of the only place you should be able to hear him anymore the only place you can hear

Sean anymore is the creep off he has retired for podcasting but you got him right here on the creep off every monday at one p.m. for the people who watch us live either on the creepoff YouTube channel or like and subscribe or over on who are these podcasts YouTube channel of course we appreciate you find folks who still listen to the podcast like normal people. That's right you guys are the best of that. So many people don't want to see our faces

and I get that. Why ruin the illusion of what this is? Oh you know what I didn't do yet? I didn't give you my thumb drive. I have it right here. Oh I did give you my thumb down. Yeah it's all plugged in. Hey everybody I do so automatically I don't realize it. Carl's having a stroke. Carl's having a stroke. Let's point laugh at him.

Oh my gosh. This would be the best place for me to a stroke. This would be the funniest place for it to happen. A medical emergency, this is where I want it to happen. I'm putting it. Yes, I'm putting it out there. Putting it out there in the world. Doctors have pretty much said, where you're sitting is where I'm going to die. Yes. I believe that too. So, you know, whatever. Oh, buddy. Oh, person. Welcome to the creep off, everybody. If this is your first time watching, this is a competition. Carl, you want to explain the rules real quick? Of course I do. Vini and I both try to bring the creepiest person in a given category today. That category is psychologist.

We have to find the creepiest psychologist. We both present our cases and our arguments for why our person is the creepiest psychologist. And then you find folks, you go over to the creepoff.com. And one time, one time vote for who you thought brought the biggest creep. You don't make bots do it. You don't use a VPN. You go and you do it one time. And then we tally the votes.

And whoever has the most votes wins that round. And, of course, the first person of five wins is the winner. and the other person has to spin the dreaded wheel of consequences. And, of course, in order to find out the results from last week, we always bring on a results girl. And that would be Danny. You know or you love her. What's up, Danny?

She's looking kind of goth. Danny, Danny. Read in results or dandy. Please won't you post that fanny all over the Patreon. Danny, Danny. That body's so uncanny. Boy, smooth like lamb and shandy. Oh, yeah, she's my creep girl.

Hi, Danny. That might actually happen. now that I'm not pregnant anymore. All right. Now we're talking. Stop teasing, everybody. Welcome back, Danny. Now, you know, we know you have a little lady Kay that you're taking care of. Everybody wants all the baby talk.

Everybody wants to know about how's the baby. Everybody asks about that stuff. We're not going to do that on the creep off tonight. Oh, thank God. All right. It's about to check out. No, we're not going to do that. They could bother you with that nonsense at other times.

What I want to know is two weeks ago, Carl and I faced off in a wildcard round on this show. I want to know who want to. I've been waiting two weeks to find out. Yeah, what a wait. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Thankfully. Geez, sorry.

No, take it off. Please. Someone turn the thermostat over there. I do. It's just, it's loud. Yeah. It's not right off now. You know.

Makes you want to get comfortable. So the winner had a whopping 85% of the way. Okay. I already know. this is rigged. It never goes my way, 85%. Do you ever notice that? Yes, it has, many times.

And it pisses me right off. Uh-huh. Every time. All right, let's see. What do we got to stop cheating? Well, Vinnie won this round. Let's go. Please.

It's going to make a terrible. I thought you were going to do the same. Fuck yeah. How about that? Okay. Hey, Carl. one more for the good guys congratulations vinny you're up two to zero now in this round i'm a good winner

yeah you really are you handle it well congrats vity uh landslide victor i thought that that was going to be a close one i thought we both had uh some pretty good uh cases but no eunice was terrible actually all right my guy was buried and impregnated his own daughter and then murdered everybody and the baby i remember i remember i remember I did all the research for it. I was all ready to present that guy. So, yes, I remember exactly what your guy did.

All right. My guy was a serial killer who was also a cannibal. This is what I, when I tried to explain what this show is to people. He was kissing his daughter. People don't listen to the show, tried to give me a creep. Oh, I actually saw on 48 hours, you should probably present this guy. And I'm like, that would be laughed out of this show. This is ridiculous what we have to do to win this.

That's why the show is the best. It is the best. Man, you make me so happy. Goody Tooshu says Danny is AI. Is that true, Danny? Tell the truth. Yeah. That's what I would say.

I knew it. I knew it. Mm-hmm. All right. Now you're supposed to say, remember, when looking into election results, please check all of your sources and facts. Is that what AI always says to everybody for everything? Probably, yes. Yeah. Yeah, we should get a disclaimer under our video that says it has been determined that Vinnie Paulino did win the last round of the Kripov.

It has been sanctioned by the Kripov's governing body. just in case there's any controversy governing bodies Carl the governing bodies I see it I see what's going on Danny where can everybody find you at Danny

desolation on Instagram do it all right we will see you soon my dear you look great we'll see you next week and smooches to the baby Danny is a trooper I have to say you know she's up all night with the baby

not getting a lot of sleep but she says hold on at this time i got to go present some results you know she was telling me before the show started that like she was having trouble getting the baby to sleep and the baby woke up twice last night and i was like have you tried the vulcan neck pinch oh right you just got to get them right on here i was going to say uh whiskey on the gums but no you're right yeah that's the way you just cut off circulation in the brain that's all all right uh carl this is a competition like you said we're bringing the creepiest psychologist today want you ring that bell and let's get going all right let's go boy i had some fun with this research and you know

where i did most of my research for this uh google no believe it or not there's there's one group of people that hate psychologists and psychiatrists so much i know the answer keep a website dedicated to every terrible thing that a psychologist or psychiatrist has ever done Scientology that's it Scientologists hate psychiatrists by the way I think I've mentioned this before. I used to have the Scientology TV channel when I had DirecTV. It became one of our channels.

And I was watching it ironically at first and then unironically after that. I agree with almost everything they had to say. And I'm not afraid to admit that. The Zeno shit goes too far. But if you just get into what they say about big pharma and psychiatrists, I'm just like, yeah, this is all bullshit.

It's hard to argue with the fact that this stuff is mostly nonsense. Yeah. I mean, BetterHelp.com. Things like that. A fine sponsor, by the way, when they do spot your WATP. Please. No, what I'm saying is, like, you got these companies that are hiring people off their

couches to be psychologists to other people on the internet. It's a quackery. This is, there might be something to it, but you have to have really skilled people. Not every person I've ever met who's told me they were a therapist or psychologist was a fucking moron. Yes, and did not, not, they did not know how to live their own life. So it's wildly they give out advice to people. They are some of the most dysfunctional humans on planet earth.

And Scientology.com has documented all of it. All right. I will give them credit for that. I'm not saying join the church, but, you know, we can say good job. So I'm going to introduce you to my creep today. He is, where do you go? Carl, this guy, really handsome fella. His name is Dr. Heath Summer.

Okay. A bit of a neck beard. God. He has what looks like a pretty good Hitler mustache that he had grown and then grew a beard around it. He was too lazy to pull it off. Yes. Yes. So he was a clinical psychologist who was a contract psychologist. So he was hired by different companies to go workplaces. And he was assigned to the Grant Medical Center at Travis Air Force Base from 2013 to 2016. He had a very specific specialty. He was assigned to see military veterans from the Air Force who were sexually assaulted during deployment or who were dealing with PTSD. So these are service people who are raped

And they have to go talk to this guy Why are service people getting raped? Well, one of the stories Is it because we're allowing women to be in the armed forces? Okay, just checking Mostly ladies from what I've seen here I'm sure some dudes have been raped But it was more of like a hazing thing

Yes, correct Okay, so what I put my penis in him? I didn't come There's a joke It's not gay until you come Yeah, that's what I heard Dr. Heath Jay Summer is a real piece of shit though But he really focused on one particular type of therapy

Now it's called exposure therapy are you familiar with it? I am not I've not been exposed to this I had to think about it and the best way to describe it is kind of what more he used to do to people Who had the crazy phobias out of their shell like they're afraid of pickles Right And then he'd bring out a pickle the person would be screaming and running for their lives Yeah that was all real too by the way None of that was staged at all well I'm saying that's what exposure therapy

I get it. I get it. That's what the root of it is. Right, right. Now, I looked it up. So these people are afraid of rape. I see where this is going. Okay. I'm sorry. Keep going. Okay. So I looked it up on the American Psychological Association website, just so I knew exactly what this is supposed to be, because this is an important part. Yeah, let's not trust all these Scientologists. Let's see what other people are saying. Exposure therapy is the psychological treatment that was developed to help people confront their fears, specifically. When people are fearful of something, they tend to avoid the feared objects, activities or situations, and this avoidance might help reduce feelings of, fear in the short term, but over a long time, it creates a bigger fear, like more dreading stuff in your life in such situations that psychologists might recommend a program of exposure therapy in order to help break the pattern of avoidance. It's kind of like how when you have a peanut allergy or a dairy allergy, they try to feed you micro doses of that so your body

gets used to it and accepts it. I think it's the same thing with these phobias. Right. And they're saying that they want to help you break. Which is why Howard Stern, you should leave your fucking house. Go to work. Go to the office. They have a whole studio set up your name's on the wall. Sorry. You were psych? Dude, everyone there sits in his chair. I know it.

They put jerk off in his chair. I would. A psychologist might recommend this to break the pattern of avoidance. Now, these are sexual assault victims. They want to avoid being sexually assaulted. Sure. I do too, by the way. It's not even a phobia fine, and I still want to avoid it.

This guy, though, is like, hey, listen, we need to do exposure therapy. So that's right. When you're dealing with rape victims, His motto is, you need to force fuck mental health into them. You see? Yep. You see? There's nine patients who ended up filing complaints against this guy.

And he ended up getting formally charged with three counts of sexual assault in September of 2016. He pled not guilty. So the patients are like, you know what? I got to be honest. I'm still afraid of rape. I'm still afraid of being sexually assaulted. I don't think that worked at all.

Yeah. If you walked up to him right and they're like, I'm going to rape you right now. They go, oh. Yeah, right. They'd be very upset about that. They would get very upset. So he pleads not guilty. to all this and he remained adamant that everything that happened in his office was part of

the therapy. Let's talk about the women who testified at the trial. Witness number one, she's a 16-year-old former Air Force medic who was medically retired two years ago. She describes the encounter saying that during an appointment for treatment of two previous sexual assaults, he made me perform fallacious on him. I bet she didn't even want to. She suggested.

I bet it was against her will. His integrating personality and his belief in, quote, exposure therapy led to the oral sex at his office. She performed it once, then at his request, a second time. Could you imagine a patient, new patient walks in? He's like, guys, so what are you afraid of? She's like, spiders. He's like, oh, yeah, me too. Get the fuck out of here.

We're not doing that. So the deputy district attorney is questioning this woman. And he says to her, after the second time, what happened next? This is a quote for the trial. He zipped up his pants and gave me a compliment. compliment. He said I was really good at it. Oh, boy. Well, that was starting to seem consensual. That's not helping at all. Right. She told Roberts also asked how she reacted emotionally to the oral sex encounter, and the woman told the jury that oral sex was unrelated

to the sexual assault that she suffered. Right. I don't know why I had to perform, but she said, adding that she had suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and depression had been employed to Afghanistan four times during her career. The witnesses later described more physical contact with summer who she said was trying to make sure I was okay with it during one appointment she recalled they stood face to face he kissed her fondled her breast and sucked on one then he offered to perform oral sex on her but she declined sorry that's part of the therapy he can't say no to this what do you thought this is i say after all now this is you're saying to yourself i know what everybody listening to this is saying this man is

a genius. Yes, correct. You know what I was thinking about as you're describing this? Bob Marley. Okay. Bob Marley decided he's like, I want to smoke weed, even though that's illegal, and I want to have sex and cheat on my wife with tons of different women, and he invented a religion where that's what guys do.

Smoke weed all day long, and they fuck all the girls they want to fuck. Jamon, yeah. And he wrote some good songs, so people are like, that's fine. This guy can't write a fucking song, obviously. Yeah. That's the problem with this guy. That's the problem with this guy. He didn't have a guitar.

He did an inventor. He didn't invent a religion. What an idiot? Skipping steps here. One of the victims actually came forward. She was, her name and identity was not hidden. She came into an interview with the media. She was one of the people who filed a complaint. Her name was Caitlin Simpson.

She said, and she saw summer for one session in 2015 and never went back. So she kind of explains how. Smart, smart, smart, smart. Right. She kind of explains how this. happened and how he can like approaches this shit she said i was an hour late that day he called me and told me i could still come in anyway which i was very grateful for that they could only they could penalize you in the military for not going to an appointment it was apparent that he

had read over my entire medical history he was telling me everything about who i was and what i thought what i felt i think he took a lot of information from those notes to tell me who i was and how he was using this to kind of give himself a credibility right like he I understand you. I know everything about you. You got to add professional in the up front, yes. Can't just be a creep right from the get-go. But then you're wrong because he starts telling her all sorts of other things about myself, quote, that were not true at all.

Saying that I didn't love my husband and that I wanted to cheat on him or that I had sexual desires not for him. This just wasn't true. And then the interviewer said, so he was telling you these things during the first appointment. And she said, yes, he was telling me that. if I told him no he would tell me I was lying you also like small penises that ejaculate very quickly no I don't no you do trust me no but you do now he would ask a question again and again until I gave him the right answer like Scientology where they ask you the same questions over and over again once in a while he would move on to the next topic very personal questions like

what's your wildest sexual fantasy or what's the wildest thing you've ever done sexually do you do angel robin it's getting hot in here wow all right anything I had to tell him wasn't good enough it wasn't quote wild enough I was uncomfortable very early on even before he started getting into the really

personal things he was just telling me all about me and wasn't giving me a chance to express myself and then he starts saying I'm lying about my own perspective which I was like there's something wrong here so throughout the whole appointment I was pretty uncomfortable but I wasn't really sure that what he was doing was malicious. But by the end of the appointment, he starts to explain to me that I have feelings for him

and that I find him sexually attractive and that I want to be with him sexually. Right. And they said, and this is what ultimately led you to file the report. And she said, after the appointment, I didn't really want to see the provider. So it took me a couple months to really come back and try again with someone else.

So she goes to the next counselor and said, hey, I had a bad experience and explained what happened to the other counselor who obviously is a more reputable person than this dirtbag was like this is horrible and they filed this complaint so he is mind-fucking these people who are really traumatized oh he's also mouth-fucking them yes he's trying to make them feel better yes now i was reading that brings up a good point the word therapist oh yeah break it down folks break it down folks yep the slash rapist now There was one other woman who testified at the trial, Carl,

and this is why everybody's going to want to go to the creepoff.com this week and vote for Vinny, because this is one of the most insane things I've ever read. A woman who is a colonel recalled some are telling her at their third session in 2014 that he was going to start using the exposure therapy. He orchestrated moving their sessions to his off-base home. Smart? Sure. Where he then told her he wanted to treat her by having her re-experience every facet of her sexual assault

by three British soldiers. Oh, boy. They Eiffel Towered me, but they called it a London bridge, and they served tee off my back while they were gang raping me. I mean, Summer had the officer repeatedly described the details of her sexual assault as she endured at a training facility in Afghanistan. She told him about the dirty facility

and recalled the taste of partially cooked goat meat she had been served by Afghans before the assault. She said, Summer then went out to his backyard and got a bunch of dirt and then had the officer put it in her mouth oh and then he had her eat meat from leftover Chinese food that was at his refrigerator the fuck is this i don't want to kinkshame but what the fuck is this that was getting off on that stuff during this this guy's wife was in the kitchen cookie dinner for the family okay well he's got to figure it out apparently well

that was then followed by his immediate recommendation that she have a positive and loving experience. So he took her into the master bedroom of his house while his wife stayed in the kitchen, put his hand over her mouth, and raped her. Yeah. I like that Vinny's like, wait until you hear about this. It's like, yeah, he's already done this multiple times in your story. Well, this is, uh, I hear you, but you know what I mean? Well, this wasn't a huge shot. He's doing this with his wife in the other room. What? He's doing this and his, I got you. I got it. All right. I did let I did. I did. I did. I did. that wasn't unnatural pause

I'll give you that I'll give you that not that guy I was going for showmanship and you call me out you sandbag and son of a bitch this is going great the last time she's

so during this therapy these people are fucked up this one was in this Afghani training camp they're fucking feeding her dirty goat meat and she's getting raped by Brits she can't be mentally all there and the doctor who's supposed to be helping her is just having sex with her

Yeah. So he then has this woman at his house at least nine more times. And we won that war, right? Many? No, I don't think they did. Oh, that's right. We didn't. Did that end?

I wonder why. Did it end yet? I wonder why we didn't win that war. She's like we were doing everything right. She had sex with him nine more times at his home. Uh-huh. The last time came after she spent the night at his house, sleeping with summer and his wife. Wow.

So he's got a threesome going on now. Good for him. When she woke up, he started to have sex with her before. she told him to stop, then he got up and left. Now, Summers remained adamant that he's... Well, you're allowed to tell him to stop? I didn't know that was part of the rules. Interesting.

Not in my house. Summers remained adamant that he is not guilty of any crime. He admits that he did have sex with his patients, but argues that the sexual behavior was simply a crucial component of exposure therapy. Sure. In order to help his patients overcome the traumatic sexual past. And he won that case, and he's living a great life. Excellent.

All right. No, Carl. No, Carl. No, Carl. he was found guilty of fallity sexual assault and rape and he was sentenced to like more than 11 years plus 18 months for three misdemeanor charges of sexual battery for the purpose of sexual arousal he also lost his license to practice and he would be required to serve 20 years probation upon release register as a sex offender for life and pay nearly $10,000 in restitution to the victims and other court costs now the insidious part about here and I want to make sure I make this point is there's obviously supposed to be doctor-patient boundaries that are wildly broken the second you put your penis in your patient. Sure. Wildly broken.

And that is considered criminal. It's definitely considered malpractice. But it's also in California, specifically illegal to coerce someone into sex by fraud. So that's what this is. He defrauded these people by telling them, I'm helping you get better. Right. Yes. And then forcing them and then making them have sex with them.

So this guy is disgusting to look at, number one. look at those fucking dead eyes and he's fucking tricking our men and women who serve our ladies who served I implore you go to the creepoff.com and vote for Vinny this week Carl take it away it's your turn all right before I present my creep this week

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Me too. Sorry, lads, but rape happens in the military slash war. During my deployment, there was a soldier who was kept hostage in a shipping container and three no longer soldiers spent three days raping until discovered. P.S. All males. Wow. That's horrific. Well, I hope they ended that rape and said, thank you for your service.

I just hope that our longtime review girl, Vic, is doing okay in the Navy. That's why we haven't heard from her. She's in a shipping container right now. She might be in a shipping container right now. Now, let's hope that's not the case. All right. We wish the best for her. All right.

Thank you, everyone, for the super chats. Keep them coming. All right. Doesn't mean stop now. It's still Super Chat Monday until the end of the show, everyone. And actually, we're doing Point-Dabble Point on who are these podcasts channel after this. And still Super Chat Monday continues on even beyond the creep-off. Isn't that fun?

This is like the Hawk meme coin. Isn't it fun? You can give me money. We're all engaging in this together. I bring to you Dr. James Mitchell and his sidekick Dr. Bruce Jessen. If you want to pull up their photos, people can see what we're talking about. So there on the left there is Dr. James Mitchell. Now, we wouldn't even know about this if not for a Senate intelligence report 10 years after the fact

and a lawsuit that was brought on by the ACLU. Oh, the ACLU is complaining about stuff. Vinny. A United States Air Force retiree, Justin, along with James Mitchell, were hired in 2002 by the CIA to design the so-called Enhanced Interrogation Techniques Program.

Fuck. The objective of the program were not merely to obtain intelligence, but to also break down detainees in order to get them to be compliant and submissive to authority. You don't need an expert for that. The two psychologists were paid more than $80 million

by the CIA to develop torture programs. When people talk about rich people just got to pay their fair share. Why don't they pay more in taxes? Why aren't rich people paid? Do you know what the tax hour goes towards, you idiots? We paid $81 million in these two to tell us how to waterboard people. It doesn't make them creeps.

It just makes them smart. It makes you ever sign the check. Listen to this, Viti. They developed a menu of 20 enhanced techniques, including waterboarding, sleep deprivation, and stress positions. John Rizzo, the CIA Acting General Counsel, described in his book, Company Man, that the techniques were sadistic and terrifying.

And because of their status as contractors rather than government employees, the lawsuit targeted these two private citizens, leaving the CIA out of it. The CIA hires these guys who develop these torture techniques. And they're like, hey, look at it. I don't know. These are just like outside contractors that are working on a project. What do you want from us?

Okay. Hold on a second. How many items are on this list? Oh, 20. 20 items. For $80 million, they came up with 20 ways to make someone uncomfortable enough to be like, just stop it. I'll tell you what you want to know. Yeah.

We'll blast music all night. They're like, oh, we wouldn't have thought of that. This is money well spent. This is what the government does, Vinny. This is what I'm trying to tell you. That's astounding in the South. Like, give me 80 bucks. Yeah, I'll give you 20.

I can come up with 20 in the next 30 minutes. I can go up with 20 pretty good ones. Fatty Patty Patty song on a loop. Boom. Boom. There's one. Let's get how quickly this is going in. We're 5% in already.

So watch The Last Jedi. times in a row, boom. Right. We did, Vinny done this to me all the time. The two psychologists were sued by two former prisoners and the family of one detainee who died in extreme cold in a secret CIA prison. Jesus Christ, you know, we ought to hire these guys to make arguing with.

Maybe we really should. I don't think we can afford them, though. The case was filed in October 2015 after the Senate Intelligence Committee released part of its report on the CIA's programs that concluded that under any common meaning of the term CIA detainees were tortured. Before elements of the Senate report were made public,

these cases were classified. No one even knew about this shit. It was only because of this report that came out. We're just like, oh, we're torturing people overseas all this time? Did these guys do it, though? Well, they didn't. They're the ones who came up with the program. Okay. Okay.

Here's the thing. Hold on. I have no chance of winning here because this is the CIA. I know how this game goes. But I'm going to fucking fight on this one. Please. Because here's my point. I'm not done yet, but please.

These are two psychologists. These are two professionals. for the people who were offered a shit ton of money to just make a dumb list of things that would make people break. Who knows that maybe who knows what the CIA is going to do with it? Maybe the CIA was like,

we mean in the ring. Right, right, right. Theoretically, what if we like detained about people who didn't do anything wrong and we just wanted to like, I don't know, get them to like rat and tattletail? Well, I don't know. How's $80 million sound? Oh, I'll make you a list.

That doesn't make these guys creeps. It makes these guys like the biggest creeps ever. I agree. So let's talk about the plaintiffs of this. So you have Suleiman Abdul Salim, who was a Tanzanadian. The CIA abducted him in 2003 and imprisoned him in Afghanistan. He was released without being charged after spending more than five years in U.S. custody. Then there was the Libyan Mohammed Ahmed Ben Saude, who was shot and detained in 2003.

He was held for about a year in a CIA prison in Afghanistan before he sent to Libya, where he was in prison for another five years. years before being released with no charges. And then, of course, the family of Ghul Rahman, an Afghan man who was detained in Pakistan in October 2002, who died a month later after being chained in a cold cell partially nude. This guy froze to death in one of these secret CIA prisons. Makes me sad because $80 million buys a lot of blankets. Right?

They're spending the money in the wrong place. These three cases, I just explained, were among 119 detainees featured in that entire. intelligence report. So this was happening all over the place. Similar details of the detainees' treatment emerged from the plaintiffs and the Senate report. Prisoners were often held nude or nearly nude, left hanging by their arms or chained to the floor, confined to small spaces, and subjected to intense cold.

And the ACLU accused them of torture, cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment, non-consensual human experimentation in war crimes. Uh-huh. This is the worst part, Vinnie, in my opinion. You ready for this? Yeah. Even though they're being sued as citizens, the federal government said that they will pay for the defense team and they will pay for any potential cash awarded by the jury. So they settled this out of court and the government just said, all right, yeah, what do you need $10 million per?

There you go. No problem. We got you, buddy. They're willing to pay up to $5 million towards a psychologist attorney's fees. I pledge allegiance to the flag. This is what I'm talking about. If you hate the deep state and what America does, vote for Carl at the creepoff.com, these sadistic assholes telling them how to torture brown people. See, I think you fucked up there, Carl, because you didn't leave a big pause at the end of that part.

We're really to pay for their attorney fees. Boom. Boom. Got them. We bring the boob to you. All right. Make sure you go to the creepoff.com. The boom.

Pulls up right now, folks. feel free to go vote. We'll check in on it later and see how you folks are deciding right now. Are you ready for some cop cam, Carl? I sure am. I can't wait to see Carl's Cop Cam. Fight with the cops for no reason. Will you please show me, cause Cop Cam.

Lose all your rights. Ruin your life. You know, I don't want to gloss over this, but DeWire Christian makes a really great point, Carl. 80 million buys the bill's a dome. And I'm going to be at the game on the 22nd, and I'll be very upset when it's 28 degrees and snowing sideways out to be. So that's a very good point. You know, I just read a whole thing, by the way, about what a dumb fucks the people are that run the Buffalo Bills. Cleveland is going to do a new stadium.

Have you seen what they're planning on doing? I have not. event. They could do a ton of stuff, host the Final Four. They're building like a whole thing. Super Bowls, concert, year round. And all they had to do was put a roof on the thing. But you know what? A bunch of cheap fucks. No, you know what it is? Buffalo has this dumb mentality that they're like, no, we want it to be hard to play in Buffalo, give ourselves a home field advantage,

so it's cold, it's rainy. Our quarterback is from California. Okay? Let's stop pretending that everyone grew up in Buffalo who plays on the bills. They didn't. Yeah. I love how the bills. fans need to project their misery on everybody else. We live here. It sucks. It sucks. I want good players that want to play in Buffalo.

It's got a fucking roof on that thing and crank up the thermostat. I mean, it seems like a no-fucking brainer, but, you know, we'll just spend a billion dollars or however much they're spending for no roof. All right. We'll stop sneaking in football talk. We do that from time to time. My apologies. We don't need to do that.

We can just talk about the dolphins one, though. My cop cam, I did win my five-team parlay because of the dolphins. Yeah. My cop cam this week comes from a very. Vecas, who sends me in a lot of great stuff. He's the man. And this one's very different than what we normally watch. Now, normally the cop cam footage is from cop cams.

This is not. This is from witnesses of this going down. I piece this together from three different videos that I found. This is Audrey Marie Schneider, 37 years old. She was driving down I-35 and Camel County, Texas, near San Antonio. Sorry, I just doxed Cardiff there for a second. Did you? It was great, yeah.

Whoops. And this is the first video here. She ends up in a parking lot. And we're going to see her being chased by cops in a parking lot with a beer in her hands. Fuck yeah. Yeah. She's having fun. Woo!

Ha! Ha ha ha ha ha. Oh, is that? That's number two. That's number one. That's number one. number one beer in hand that she gave me all right

well that wasn't the right one but yeah there's one there's one video I had where you can see her holding the beer up as she's driving through the parking lot driving with one hand being very unaware of the surroundings not really worried about people

you know parking lots are full of both cars and people not too concerned about that so number two is probably the same video yes I just checked it okay so go to number three and this is where it appears that she gets trapped in by the police here

with the cop cars she hits she hits a she hits a bystandard's car and she's out of there nice work well done she's got the truck for it

she does it's a Toyota four runner I had one of those when I was down in Florida recently you could drive over some shit with them but I really like the look on her face because what she did folks was she backed into the cop cars

two cop cars came in behind her there was another vehicle that was just a private vehicle was kind of in the way and she just gave it a look like ha you're in my way and then runs into them rolls her eyes that keeps going

She almost gave the person a chance to move, and they didn't. She's like, fine, I'll just drive through you. Just a look on her face pissed me off. Here's another close call in my next clip, where she almost gets trapped again. Here we go. Another close one. Oh, there's a cop car in front of her.

Oh, she's backing up. Uh-oh. There's another car. Oh, that car's in the way. Now what's you're going to do? Oh, right up over the curb. Yes, and she's free again. Yeah.

Hey, let's keep it going. She's pretty good. This video was amazing. I'll give this drunk lady some credit. She was just doing laps around. Yes. She's just doing laps around this parking lot for a while. So then finally, she does get out of the car.

She does deserve like a little. Yes. I could have just played the whole thing and sped it up and put that music out. I should have. Oh, that would have been fun. All right. My next clip, she finally does get out of the car and immediately runs into a salon in the strip mall. Was she just killing time before our appointment?

I think so. No shit. They got her. Yeah. Oh, she's trying to run into an office depot. What the hell? So now the cops have her and they're bringing out of the salon. I'm so sorry.

Hi. Thank you. I'm so sorry. So she's in a good mood. She looks like my friend's ex. Hey, I'm so sorry. She's cute. What's on her face?

I don't know if that's, uh, she might have gotten, uh, hitting the ground or something and gotten a rash there because she does have a fight with the police that this guy didn't pick up but fortunately I have another version of this from a news channel.

Oh no. Yes, let's check out the news coverage her fighting the cop. Okay. At times the woman smiling, splashing liquid, probably beer, could be beer, from a can through her sunroof

and weaving through other parts cars. Okay, so the people standing around, they were watching, they couldn't believe what they were seeing and they spoke with our John Paul Barajas, who also found out that this chase started miles away up in Camel County. So look at here's, she's trying to get in the salon and the female officer's fighting her. And she's finally, she punched her in the face.

Oh, and then she got taken down. And that woman cuffed and taken into custody. It was kind of scary. She did have some things in her hand, didn't know if it was a gun, didn't know what it was. For employees in the area who didn't want to be shown, they didn't know what to expect. Before the suspect got out of her SUV, she was holding a cane in her hand. Woo!

Spring break! But when I saw her driving and she was kind of spewing the beer everywhere, she kind of was smiling and just not a care in the world. I was just like, man, she's living her best life. Nick Gage thinks she's doing all right. She sure is living her best life right there. And so then you saw her getting pulled out by the police.

And I was a whole crowd of people who've been watching this whole thing and filming on their phones. And she starts joking around with the crowd. I enhanced the audio on my next clip here. Okay. I like her carefree attitude. Me too. All right.

I need you all to step back, please. Hey, do you go a can of beer? Have you? Yes, really too. Double Doc. There you. She's a fun drunk. She's the kind of chick you do want to go out with and have a couple too many.

I don't know. I think she's... I don't know. She's up for good time. Here's the thing. I question how well this. hangs together, that carefree attitude sticks around. Two or three beers

past this. Oh, yeah. I mean, she's at the point. We don't want to get past this point. You get past this point. We don't want to get into trouble. I can already tell. Well, I have a kicker on here. My last clip. Two more beers. She would have turned her out of that guy and said, what did you say to me? Maybe. Kicked a couple

cops. Oh, yeah. She punched one cop already, Carl. It's in there. They shouldn't have set the female in after her. So this is the kicker right here because she did, after all of the You heard she was being chased for miles, and she finally gets to this parking lot. She's driving around, and she went to do a salon. Let's find out why.

Well, if you got an appointment, you don't want to get that no-shelf fee. I guess you've got to do what you got to do, right? She was saying she had an appointment here? Yeah, yeah. At this time, DPS says the suspect is facing charges of assault of a public servant, evading arrest, and DWI. Look all that beer in her car. Those are some empties. That's like, I see three empty Stella Artois.

A couple of hard-siders Yeah, it looks like Vince the Warrior was sending her alcohol It's just a bunch of random shit from 7-11 Why is her old duels back here? I don't want that Let her go How funny is that

She really did have an appointment At that salon She was just going about her day Cancellation fees are no joke My guy will hit me My guy will hit me if I miss something My wife has to do it to some clients Because you know they don't respect their time

And they're out there getting chased by the police I'm standing here waiting You're rolling around the parking lot drinking beers and pudgy cops. I'd like to be chugging beer and drinking too, but I have to work today. Yeah. I'm not saying that I don't think that she's charming, though, Carl. I do want to clarify, I'd have her on my softball team.

Yes. Wouldn't date her. Oh, no, no, no. She's not someone you want to date. And I think maybe it's just whatever that is, the lesion on her face. That's the problem. Possibly. No, she's cute.

You saw the mug shot on there. She's fine. Yeah. All right. All right. Good job, Carl. You know what? It is still Superchamp Monday.

We have some more people celebrating with us. We sure do, pal. And I do appreciate those fine folks. Here we go. Hippie terrorist, $10 said. I had an idea for the wheel of consequences. Pick a show you guys covered on who are these creepos and be a guest on the show. Preferably Fruit Loops, killers of color.

They won't let us on. Dude, I love that show. We should revisit that. I love that hippie terrorists. You want to do that on Friday? We haven't picked a bonus up. episode, yeah. Oh, we could do that. We can revisit those fine ladies. Now,

if you don't know, because we haven't done this in a while, who are these creepo segment. This is a true crime show. It's unique. What they do is they only cover perpetrators who are black. Yes. Because they think that it's racist, that all we do is focus on white serial killers all the time. Because it's true crime, we don't have enough minority

representation. Yes. Right. The marginalized communities are just like, oh, Hispanic person did that. Whatever. Don't care. Which is not the case at all, by the way, I guess it's my point. If I have to hear about Ted Bundy one more time. Exactly. Oh, God. Rocco or me, 2002, five bucks.

If you want an enhanced interrogation technique, have your suspects watch woke dad on a loop. Another good idea. That would really suck. Carl, for Friday, I'll pull Nancy Grace. Yes. You pull fruit loops. Oh, yeah, that's right. I got to do early Friday.

Yeah. Can we do Friday? I have a flight in the afternoon. So we just got to do early. No problem. Cool. We'll be done early. Labor and Mystic.

How about a month of creepiest three-letter agencies? Yes. I mean, give me anyone. I'm happy to do it. Any one of them, we will find out how creepy they are. Gardner fan, thanks for the two bucks. ACLU, what a bunch of cry babies. Complaint, complain, complain.

He's right. Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch. Well done. Well played. And Jay Lloyd, thanks for the 10 bucks. Here's to Beggie Monster Monday, just vote for Carl. Thank you, Jay Lord. Yes, the Beggie Monster will be available on Point DabblePoint today.

Oh, you guys have fun. Have you heard the Beggie Monster's an AI voice yet? Oh, I haven't heard the AI voice. Do you have it? There's an AI voice that has been developed for the Beggie Monster. It's hilarious. That's amazing. Yes.

Carl, I believe that takes us to our voicemail segment. Hold on a second. Before you hit that, someone is saying that the creepiest three-letter agency is the 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-world order T-WO I don't know about that don't fuck for those guys

I'm not I'm not saying anything about the TWO proud member my friend all right let's say some shit about Syracuse The creep-off voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse The Orange will play the Washington State Cougars in the Holiday Bowl

here. These cougars are much like the older women you'll find around Syracuse bars, but not quite as heavy. See you in Syracuse. I like it. I like it. Well, Carl, someone has left us a voicemail with a really

thought out idea about the wheel of consequences, and I actually there might be merit to this. I've been thinking about it for a little while, and I think a great solution to the wheel of consequence. I don't know if it's an actual solution, a problem that needs to be fixed, but I feel like it's making things a bit more interesting is having separate wheel of consequences for both you, for both of you, one that affects Vinnie more and one that affects Carl more. I feel like this would be better than having just equal things because it seems like not each of you have different things that you hate more than the other.

True. Either way, just a thought. That's a really good idea. I think that my real of consequence should be like, eat too much pizza, play video games all day, smoke weed all day long. These are things I don't do, you know? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But then Vinny's wheel of consequences would be things like, you know, run a half marathon.

I don't want to do that. Carl. It's not a bad idea, though. I kind of like that. Let's switch it. Mine will be eating too much pizza. I hate that. I fucking hate that.

And yours can be something like, you know, jump into. do a wood chipper. Okay. Well, here's an idea. One of mine is stuff like order Taco Bell at 2 a.m. And yours can be things that you don't like to do. Like, I don't know, commit a felony and get caught. Oh, I don't like getting caught.

Right. Okay, DeWy and Christian, hold on. Just opened up a whole fucking crazy thing in my brain. Flirt with Tom Myers. I say you should have to try to seduce Tom Myers. like brew in that episode of Thunder and Paradise, so you have to dress up like a Bugs Bunny woman to be like, hi, Tom.

It wouldn't even be that hard. Guys never gotten laid. Jesus Christ. Okay. Okay. Hey, everybody, tell me if my soundboard sounds better. I just realized that Streamyard changed the settings again when I logged in. Tell me if this sounds better.

Oh, no. So some of you might not have been hearing things okay. I apologize for that. Sounds good. All right. Carl, next voicemail. Where do we want to go? Here we go.

The fuck, where did it go? Here we go. Hey, guys, it's your old pal D.P. I just wanted to say, Vinnie, you really got to bring a better creep next time. Your creep, oh, fuck, I'm a week behind. So last week's creep or whatever the fuck was actually a problem solver. I mean, he killed a child rapist, aborted an incest fetus, killed somebody who was an enabler for incest,

and the bitch that went along with it. I mean, she cleaned up his mess. Yes. So I'd say that kind of even Stevens after that. Thank you, fuck you by. Wow. I'm sick, sorry. Wow.

Those are great points right there. I want to re-vote. I want to recount. When it comes to these type of activities. I denounce it. Fair enough. yeah fuck that

Carl you got any voicemails I don't okay uh here we go okay

then you know a little bit of a serious call sorry man but hey for real uh from an

audio listener standpoint only okay never visually seen either one of these bitches but that mehalla is much more fun and entertaining audio was you should very much keep that much

i'm i don't really wow whoa whoa you don't never going to swallow my dick right hmm right there you're probably right there it's a broader market if she's into it Mehele is. She wants to be a girl. Danny doesn't want to be a girl. What? Is Danny transitioning? Is that what this is all?

Okay. Sir. I agree with Mahalia. It's fantastic. I agree with that. Danny is wonderful as well. But I will say this, sir. I appreciate the call.

I appreciate your opinion. I appreciate you voicing it. Thank you. But I'm not going to take advice from a guy who said, awe and held it for 35 seconds. Dary to call on audio. He was wasted. Give him a break.

Also, shout out to Redhead Meg. I love him. Who gave us Christmas tree ornaments when we saw her in Detroit, was it? She did. She gave us these great ones. I'd have mine on my tree. I got mine on my tree and Jenny Jingos posted it from her Instagram account. So we love all the results girls over here.

We do. They're all wonderful. Except for Jess. Who abandoned us? Who? Yeah. Who? All right.

Fuck it. Carl, I think it's time to do a scum parade. Do you want to do it? Yeah, let's go. Scum parade. Take me on a raid of these fuck charades that these creeps have made. Scum parade. Vinny and Carl going to tell you about some fuck shit.

Scum parade. Like stories of a kid fucked by his mom or dad. Soaking up the blood of a cat. Scum parade. Carl, this is John Smith. He's 71 years old. He's a concerned grandfather of his granddaughter who got herself into a little bit of trouble at a Walmart. Yes. You see, on December 4th, around 4.30 p.m., two officers were dispatched to a Walmart in Rockford, Illinois. Catherine Robertson, his granddaughter, was detained in the... She's 19, by the way, was detained in a parking

lot by an officer for allegedly stealing, and Smith saw she was being put in handcuffs from his van. Now, this is his 19-year-old granddaughter. What does any good, respectable grandfather do in that situation? Well, I know my grandfather wouldn't do shit. I don't know what this guy's going to do, but I know my grandfather wouldn't do shit. That's why he's a creep for not coming to help me out. No, that's not what he did. He sprung into action, and he realized that all the things, she stole, had fallen all over the parking lot. So he picked them up as fast as he could and scooped them up and put them in his van and guided it to try to drive away.

This is the worst haste, or he, I can't even think of the word. This is the worst possible plan you could have, like Ocean's 11th is not going to have another sequel based on this. This woman steals some shit from Walmart. And then as she's getting arrested, the grandfather swoops in and takes it and picks it up for her. Well, while he was attempting to drive away, another officer reached into the car to turn it off before he could leave, but was met in a punch from the, a punch to the face from Smith. Oh, well, so he's grandfather of the year. I don't know why he's on the scum parade.

Well, he punched the cop of the face. Good. And that the officer said he returned a punch and detained the suspect. Wow. I guess that explains why his face looks like that. That does explain it. Smith is charged with aggravated battery at a public place at aggravated battery on an officer. What do you think she was stealing from Walmart? Shit Grandpa needs, like Old Spice Cologne.

Oh. See, I assume there's just a bunch of 40-ounce Stanley Cups. These women in their fucking Stanley Cups. Can't get enough of them. What is it? March? We're talking about Stanley Cups. Do you know what a Stanley Cup is?

It's like one of those, yeah. Yeah. Like I said, women in their Stanley Cups, yes. It was my birthday gift. Also, the NHL playoffs at the same time as the NBA playoffs. It's in June. when the Stanley Cup was awarded to hockey teams. Right.

That's a good point. I was talking about these because they were big back in the spring. That's what everybody wanted them. I was saying that you were behind the times. You were making a sports joke like a man. I will just sip from my Stanley Cup like a lady. All right. Here we go.

Let's go to our next creep. We're going down to Florida. Something I've learned about Florida recently, Carl. There's a wonderful place where our only winners by homes? no not even close i learned that they will hire private schools in florida will literally hire anyone it does not matter they will hire complete garbage you got to read the headline because when i read this headline all i was saying was please let it be sedering dad please let it be sedering jan naked teacher caught inside elementary school with sex toys drugs and women's

underwear oh it's gonna be john it's gonna be john fuck joe euris yeah uris is his last name joe yurris he's 34 years old he was found in the k5 windmill point elementary school in port st lucy not even the school he teaches at some private school across town this is the night before this is on thanksgiving night by the way cops responded to a reported burglary when the naked teacher spotted by the deputy he quickly dressed himself and ran for the door as he tried to flee'd euryeus allegedly punched the deputy in the face but the officer was able to hold him until backup arrived. Officers then found sex toys, marijuana, and a makeshift place to sleep in the classroom.

The officer started calling at Yeraius Heap. I'll take most embarrassing possible arrests for a thousand Alex. That they found the women's underwear? Oh, no. And that's what we laughed our asses off. That is not good. They have some vetting process over there in Florida for teachers, don't that? He was charged with lewd at lascivious behavior, burglary, possession of marijuana, and battery of a law enforcement officer,

held at the St. Lucy County Jail, $31,000 bond. No one knows why he was at that particular school. He works at a place called the Somerset College Preparatory Academy, which said it was unaware against the allegations against a individual formally employed by the school. So I find it hard to believe that you were unaware if he's now formal. Well, as soon as they became aware, he was no longer employed there. Wait until they went to that school finds out about what Sutterer John's up to. Oh, boy.

rut row it's not going to be great now let's go to indiana carl your mom she's a bitch i've met her sure um you guys have a rivalry i know yeah she's the worst i know this guy got into a real fight i bring a few comedy shows just to fuck you up just to fuck with you please don't uh my next comedy shows by the way i'll be performing with j sandra sikar from a broken lizard coming up in january if anybody wants to come to that uh an indiana man was charged last week with trying to suffocate his mother with plastic wrap to convince her that he was not a little boy and that she couldn't push him around. You know, I convinced my mom I wasn't a little boy anymore. I moved out of my mom's house. Well, Dylan L. Moles, 27, fled the home he had shared with his mother.

Shared with his mother. You mean her home? Yeah, after she bailed him out two weeks ago before this, by the way. Now he's back home after being bailed out. And they were, cops were called to the house. They found the mother visibly injured. she said she's sitting at her computer desk when moles attacked her from behind punching her in the head as he put her in a headlock dragged her to a bed where he used plastic wrap to wrap around her nose and mouth can i just point out to this fucking idiot dylan that is a job for duct tape not plastic wrap stupid idiot use duct tape when you're trying to suffocate someone yeah here's what you do when someone tries about plastic wrap around your mouth well you'll rip it yeah you can i can rip it my teeth. In a report, police said the woman had visible redness and injuries on her face and they saw a roll of plastic wrap on a ground nearby. You think she thought this would be having with what she bought it at the supermarket? Probably not. Just threw it in the

cart. Little did she know it was all going to be wrapped around her head. Horrible. Once he was arrested, witnesses corroborated the story and told police that most calmly left the house after the attack. After he was in custody, he admitted to attacking his mother, saying that he believed she had stolen $1,000 from his cash app account, despite her denials. Oh, wait a little second, Vinny. So you're telling me that if someone steals your money, you should punch them? I hope the IRS has been put on notice. Carl's coming.

Let's go. Everyone they steal money from should punch them in the face. I really enjoy this style of bragging that's happened to here. This guy tried to beat up his old mom. Yep. And he's sitting in jail surrounded by cops. and he's trying to brag, and he's like, he says, he planned the attack and said he has trained a Brazilian jiu-jitsu and knew, quote, he did some damage.

Dude, if you want to be mad at Joe Rogan, if you're, you know, Anthony Jessel-neck or someone, you want to be mad at Joe Rogan? Everyone's upset because he interviewed Trump. The real reason he pissed at Joe Rogan is that everyone thinks they know Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I didn't even know that phrase, and now everyone thinks they know it. Please. This is all Joe Rogan's fault. They said that he showed no remorse in this attack, Carl.

They said he did not even ask about his mother's condition. He was more like bragging about how bad he fucked her up and like, no, no, she's fine. She just had some redness on her face. Yeah, yeah. She'll be all right. He's charged with attempted murder, aggravated battery, domestic battery and strangulation. And he has a lengthy criminal history, by the way, multiple charges between 2017 and 2014. He was charged with residential entering and criminal trespass in November.

And he's a bit of a problem. Sounds like it. Yeah, I don't think he proved his. point to his mom at all actually. So these terrible scumbags like that who fuck up their mothers. Yeah. I always feel bad for the mom but then I'm like, yeah, you should have, you know, should have done better. Hey, before

we get to our last story, I'm not trying, you know, I'm trying to, uh, it's time to victim blame. Raise your kids better. Raise better kids. Or don't have them at all. It's all about the blame. Where you lay it, victim's lame. We'll

say it. Fuck, yeah, we will. Before we hit the last story in the skump raid, yes, let's hit that. We did have a couple of other chats come in. Tim 422, remember for 13 months saying you for that. Lions versus Bills, go Wyatts. I will be at that game, Tim. I'm looking forward to it.

Oh, you're going to Detroit? What a brag. Going to Detroit to see the Lions and the Bills. Lions have a lot of injuries on that defense. We'll see what happens. The Bills put up some numbers on offense. The Bills don't have a. defense.

Yesterday. No, they had no defense yesterday. They had no. I could run a, I could run 100 yards on the Bills D. Correct. I mean, you can't even run 100 yards, but on the Bills D, you could. I come buckets, Steve Bucks says, wait, I know Audrey Schneider, been to her house. Is that true?

Who's Audrey Schneider? That's the woman from the cop camp video. No shit. Dude, if that's true, I come buckets, please send us a note. What's her house like? You can send it to the creepoff pod at gmail. The creepoff pot at gmail.com. The creepoff pot at gmail.com.

Send us an email. If that's true, because I want to get you on the show to talk to you about her. You could also leave us a voicemail and tell us about it at 585, 3, 71, 80108. Yeah, that's crazy of true. Carl, I want to introduce you to a lovely couple. Okay. Can I do that? Yeah, please.

Okay. Oh, yeah, they are lovely. Matching outfits. Usually I find that kind of gross, but these two. Tyler Wade Gibson and Bailey Alexis Gibson. He's 35. She's 32. They are from Morgan County in Missouri.

Missouri and they have an infant son and old Tyler here decided to save a couple bucks and do a little bit of a DIY project and what he figured he would do is save all that circumcision money and just do it at home

could you imagine this kid going hey mom dead can we outsource this? I just feel like maybe we should get like an expert in to do this sort of activity nope nope there's probably a lot of like YouTube tutorial video that everyone's like trying to do stuff on their own

because they see someone on YouTube, it's like, all right, here's how you put your wall-mounted TV up, you know? They're probably out of a lot of just like, here's the performance of circumcision correctly. Not only did these two idiots basically fuck up this kid's dick. They took him to the hospital, Lake Regional Hospital in Missouri, on November 27. Then they made them go over to university hospital.

Then they left with the kid against medical advice because, quote, they were waiting too long. I get that. That is a real thing. They're tired of waiting. Yep. Deputies then went to their house to conduct interviews after receiving Miranda warnings. Tyler Gibson allegedly admitted to doing the circumcision.

He said, despite not having any medical training, he completed the procedure after doing, quote, research. Yes, this research was he read a how-to book written by Lorena Bobbitt. Can I just say no one does research? Nobody's doing research. I don't do, you do research, Carl? Every Monday morning, but sure, I'll go with your promise. I mean, I'm just saying. No one's doing research.

This motherfucker is doing research on how to do a circumcision. Would you Google it, asshole? That's what I mean. You're not going to find this shit on YouTube. And it's like one of those Google things where they have like the steps written in. Right. Hold at the base. You don't even like a wink.

It's all right there. Fucking A. So he says he was doing research and said a blessing. Okay. Yeah. That's all it takes. Makes me wonder if there is a God, Carl. This guy's praying.

Please don't let me fuck up my son's dick. And then he's in the emergency room an hour later. I mean, I understand God not answering this asshole's prayers, but what about this fucking kid? The best part is, this, uh, the wife, who did go along with it, but she was like, hesitant about like, be sure you think you can pull this off there, Tyler? I'm not sure. Oh, we're getting there. She is going to have, she can be able to use this in any argument for the next 25 years.

What about the time you cut our son's dick off, huh? And we ended up having to go to jail for years. Remember that? And the rest of the kids got taken away because you knew how to do it. he told the police he used to sanitize blade to perform the procedure and gauze pads to catch the blood but wasn't prepared for the amount of bleeding i have audio from that it's not great yeah the evidence said that prompted the parents to take the boy to the hospital so the kids

bleeding all over the place like yeah his dick and here's the thing about babies there's not that much blood in him no there's not yeah so the police showed you imagine if someone got that baby sexually aroused, that thing would be a gusher. That'd be a prop. It's like a Gallagher show. Grab the umbrella. His first, we need to, let's all chip in and get his first girlfriend to tarp.

That's gross. Bailey, Bailey Gibson told the cop, she was very hesitant about her husband completing the procedure, but conceding she helped him carry it out. It remained unclear what medical training the father had, if I need to carry out the procedure, following the couple's arrest, social service responded to the home and removed their five children.

The age of the boy who had the botched circumcision was not revealed. And then my mind started racing. I'm like, is this kid like 12? Yeah, like Sam Roberts. Oh, yeah. He was like 17 or 18 when he got a circumcision. Fucking wild. Oh, man.

They have five kids. Gardner fan makes a good point. That's $100 he saved for meth. Yep. That's true. That's a good point. Yeah. You got to prioritize.

They have $25,000 bond and they are scheduled to appear in court on January 28th, Carl. Oh, boy. Dear God, what a show we did today. What a wreck. What a flawless show we did today. Another flawless show for you fine people. Amen. Do you deserve it?

Probably not, but we do it anyway out of the goodness of our hearts. Michael C., thanks to the Dow 99, says, can you can't believe Shilly snitched on the U.HC. assassin? Why not? There was a reward. Listen, that guy is a guy we need to protect. I'm not happy with shilly snitching on him. Carl, who's going to convict him?

Good point, yeah, right. Who's going to fucking convict that guy? How much you pay for health insurance? Like, yeah, actually, it's fucking ridiculous that I think about it. I want you all to think about the last time you had to make a phone call to your insurance company. Did you not want to shoot everyone involved in that company? All three doctors are saying, I need this procedure done? Oh, you won't cover it.

Oh, you need a fifth and sixth opinion? Is that what you're asking for? I watched, I saw this video. I think it was on Yahoo or something. fucking Federman was trying to lecture everybody we shouldn't feel good about this guy he's dressed worse than me he's fucking standing there going

oh you should be feel bad for this man did you see the interview with the wife she didn't mention that he was a good husband in any way did she no she talked about yeah he was a loving father and uh he did this yeah and there were people were giving him death threats but you know right yeah he gets threats all the time

they asked they asked her they said what what were they threatened for you I don't know like coverage stuff so she said what yeah that's how that works i guess ray de vino's gonna get away with it isn't it wouldn't that be amazing if ray de vito really was just a cunning hitman god what a cover story that'd be amazing i'm a retarded comedian i do nothing she lives in a mansion but then he runs over to his friend's house and does his show that would be killing he just has like a little room that's a studio inside of his mansion and he walks out his butler puts a silk fucking smoking jacket out of him.

That's awesome. We've got to make that movie. The Ray DeVito movie. Ray DeVito, assassin. Yes. I want to write this. I bet you I know a guy we get to star on it for pretty cheap. I mean, John Wick.

He's to stay. John Wick is a thing of the past now. It's all about Ray DeVito. That's the new action hero. I don't understand. Who am I supposed to kill again? Why? No, he's not really braided, though.

That's the funny part. He pretends to be on the internet to cover. It's an elaborate cover That's a good point We got another super chat that just came out All right, let's see who it is this time Hunter Duke Coming in with five bucks

Went to Casabonita Fun fact They have a Bill's Mafia brewery next door Vote Vinny can't wait for hack a mania too How is it that Tuki's been down there multiple times He's never told me about this Bill's Mafia brewery Because they don't want you down there They don't want you anywhere near it

I think that's true I went there when I was a kid Did you really? Yeah it was cool I think it's better now because it's like South Park characters and stuff. You could get your picture taking him a man bear picking shit. That's fun.

And Cartman's eating at one of the tables. You can hang out with him. Ah. A fellow fat fuck. All right, buddy. I got to get the fuck out of here. Me too. I got shit to do today.

Me too. We got point dabble point coming up in an hour and 45 minutes over on the Who areles podcast. YouTube channel. We got Cardiff on Shully, producer Chris, Jenny Jingles. It's going to be a fun one today. John's been extra evil lately. What, no invite? Vinny, you have an open invitation.

my friend you know that i got triggered i told you this i said carl text messages i got fucking triggered this morning oh he is watching he's a double standard motherfucker isn't he listen i i'm not going to come on today i got shit to do but i will float this into the dabbled verse not that it fucking matters yes when john i went on point dabblepoint and defended john biggest mistake i've ever made in my life i apologize again one of them doing this show that that drifter I murdered I was on the show and John was drunk out of his mind

texting me gibberish shit that I could not decipher I could not understand what it was saying but it was like I was pissed off at Phil Elmore is really the reason I was on there and so John was secondary to me

so I'm just not paying attention to this I had to go back to work after I took my wife to the movies that night I never responded to John's junkin jibberish So I had a meeting with him the next day. Well, he was telling you what to say from his perspective. So at that point, the show's over. Is that even what it was?

Yeah. So at that point, the show's over, he's like, Vinnie, remind them that blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, so at that point, the show's over, you're not on the show anymore. So you don't need to respond. Yeah. Time is, that moment has passed. There was another meeting that we had scheduled the next day about getting ready for his show. Because I do not want to, I didn't want him just to do his dumb set.

I wanted to have bigger or better things for people who were going to pay money for ticket. So Cardiff and I were going to do all the work. We were trying to make a good experience for everybody else. And this motherfucker told me that he decided to no show this meeting to teach me a lesson for not responding back to his text messages. To teach me a lesson. Why do I have to learn a lesson, John? And then not only that, I'm watching this show today. And he screamed at me going, I said, dude, it's not a big deal that I didn't respond to the text. We were going to see each other I'd say, it is a big deal when someone texts you and you don't respond. Yeld at me, screamed at me.

And then Clay Dabbler brings up to him, well, you haven't responded to me in like two weeks. And just like, oh, cry baby. Oh, you cry baby. You didn't respond? Yeah, John, who's the cry baby? Fucking hypocrite piece of shit. It's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice.

Give me the fuck out of here. Nice. You think you can get away with that without having legal ramifications? You're out of your fucking mind. Everybody go to peepoff. Everybody go to peepoff.com and vote for my new best party of Iniquolino.