The Creep Off - Episode 244: Creepmas '24

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

In this week’s contest Karl & Vinnie take on the creeps of Christmas: In Karl’s cop cam we meet the most laid-back reckless driver in history: The Scum Parade features a pair of overly affectionate Dutch parents, a woman celebrating her divorce and the worst mother ever. The score is currently Vinnie 2 - Karl 1, visit thecreepoff.com to vote and decide this week’s winnerCheck out the Scum Parade stories: Want to support the show? Find us on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to get exclusive merch an extra bonus episode every week! 'Worst Santa ever' gets stuck in chimney after trying to out-run the police - Daily StarWife kills hubby at courthouse after signing divorce: CopsTexas mother 'committed vile acts against disabled daughter for cash' | Daily Mail OnlineIncest sex slave horror: Couple who raped their four daughters, aged 12 to 21 left them with pelvic injuries, bruising and sexually transmitted diseases | Daily Mail OnlineDon’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108You can follow our Results girl Danni on Instagram @Danni_Desolation

Hey, you know what's coming up? What's that, buddy? Hackamania. And you know, it makes it great. Holiday Christmas slash Hanukkah slash Kwanza slash who gives a fuck present? Air ride, airfare to Las Vegas. And hotel. Yes.

But you could just give somebody tickets to Hackamania if you wanted to. You could go to hackamania.com. Use promo code creep. Save 10%. And that's going on May 9 through 11th. So, you know, we're reminding your early kids. Early. And often.

Early and often. All right, let's do a show. You're listening to the Carl Network. Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation. Horror, shock.

I'm gonna deliver the goods because I'm alive! And I'm not backing down! Cuckoo! Cuckoo! Fuck with my beard. It's not real. No shit. Well, it was real, but you see I got sick and all the hair fell out so I had to wear this fucking thing.

How'd you get sick? I loved a woman that wasn't clean. Disgusting Vomit-inducing thing Merry creep miss to all All of you fans of the creep off Welcome to the show The show about creeps by creeps

For you creeps, I'm your host My name is Vinny Excelsior. True believers. And joining me today, as always, to celebrate the great holiday of Creep Miss. It's my co-host, Hot Coo Coo Coo Coo, Coo, Coo, Coo, Coo, Coo, Coo, Coo, Coo, Coo, Coo,'s out there. Thanks for joining us on this Crete Miss celebration. Now, as always, the creep off is a competition, Carl. Do you want to explain the rules to everybody?

I do want to explain the rules. It's very simple. What happens is, Vinny and I both present a creep in a secret. certain category. Once we're done presenting our creeps, you go to the creepoff.com and vote for who you thought brought the bigger creep. Once somebody gets to five victories, they win the round and the other person has to spin the dreaded wheel of consequences, which is right there behind you, which is made by Lockyer, our boy, fantastic wheel of consequences. And that pretty much sums it up. Wouldn't you say there, Vinnie? It would. And by the way, thank you for bringing up Lockheed. Locky, thank you for the wonderful Christmas present. I just got it today. I left

it at my house like an idiot but it's an awesome t-shirt from johnny cupcakes in boston it's the world champs boston celtics t-shirt oh sweet so thank you locky i really truly appreciate you buddy great guy um i do have to remind everyone yeah creepmas is a special holiday yeah because it lands on a monday but not just any monday super chat monday that's right we are celebrating two holidays today crept miss and super chat monday and i couldn't be more excited about it well i want to start off by welcoming David S. as a brand new YouTube member. Thank you. Thank you, David. You know, if you're feeling giving today, feel free to give some memberships in that chat if you want to.

We appreciate that. If you want to spread the creepness love. It is that time of year. And Chris Engler, thanks for the $2 Canadian ITM and Merry Creep miss. In the morning to you, Chris Engler. Thanks for being here, buddy. This is exciting. Very exciting. Now, the last time we had a competition was two weeks ago, Carl. Yes, we did the creepiest psychologist. And here, to give us the results, our results girl, Danny. Danny, Danny, read in results, oh, dandy, please won't you post that fanny all over the Patreon, Danny, Danny, that body's so uncanny.

Boy, smooth like lamb and shandy. Oh, yeah, she's my creep girl. What's up, guys? Merry creepmas, Danny. Merry creepmas, everybody. So let's find out who won creepiest psychologist. And I hope you counted up the tally a few times. Make sure that you're getting this right, Danny.

I don't want any mistakes coming in for our results. Checked it twice. Good. Good. What do we got here? Because Vinny's up to nothing in this round. I'm already down. I still have to do my consequence from the last round, which is get my chest waxed.

That still has to happen. I forgot about that. Oh, did you forget about that? Fun stuff, huh? So I really need a victory here, Danny. Holy shit, how did I completely forget about it? You haven't brought it up in a while. I was surprised, actually.

Wow. I'm dropping the ball. I should be tormenting you. I should be texting you every day. What if I just got rid of one chest tear every day and did like one of those time lapse things? Do I get to pick who pulls it off? Yes. Who do you want it to be?

Some pro wrestler, you know? and probably Andy Okay, that's cute Yeah, you too would have fun with it Anyway, I need a victory, Danny What were the results from two weeks ago? Understandable Okay, two weeks ago

It was the creepiest psychologist And with 67% of the vote Carl Oh, fuck Everything coming up Carl. Thank you, Danny. Well done. Merry Christmas to you. Thank you very much. I guess Christmas is the time for charity. Ah, see what you did there? I know what I did. Call me a charity case. You are a charity case. I see what you did. You guys excited for your first Christmas with baby Lady Kay?

Absolutely. We're super excited. Are you spoiling her already? Did you buy her a bunch of stuff she doesn't need? Of course. Nice. She didn't buy other sunny stuff. And you notice that? Aren't results girls supposed to get gifts for the host of the show? And it does not go the other way, Danny. It definitely does not go the other way. I'm kidding with you, Danny.

You're just being here as a gift. It is. You are our wonderful Christmas angel, and we are thankful for you. Where could everybody follow you, Danny? At Danny Dissolation on Instagram. All right. We will see you soon. Merry Christmas to you and the family.

very great miss love you guys love you too danny oh what a treat i'll tell you what she told me a sad story before the show started why are you grinning ear to ear i'm not i was just she told me a sad story she had a death in her family so shit someone close to her lost her husband and i said well you know at least you know what to get her this year for christmas yeah like an e-harmony account i don't know if daddy thought that was funny she tried out to be like what did you say that She wasn't into that. Joke. That was kind of a dick.

Man, people are celebrating Cremus and Super Chat Monday. Labrid Mystic, five Creepoff Channel memberships gifted. Wow. Thank you very much, Labrined Mystic. I will tell you, once you get gifted to membership, you get to watch our bonus shows that happen just about every Friday at noon Eastern time. Yeah, we have a good time. We wouldn't be doing it every week if we didn't have a good time. It's true.

Joseph Collins coming in with the 1999. Oh. Merry Creepenman. Thank you, Joseph Collins. Merry crepe miss to you. You're creep off MVP today, man. Labor Mystic, thanks for the two bucks gift membership. I think I will for the holiday.

Thank you, Evermistic. Much appreciated. Is that Bobo? Probably. Creep miss Super Chat Monday and Festivus. FVP. Aw. Fuck, Vinnie Paulino. But yes, can you believe all of that's happening on one day?

It's wild. It's like a magical celebration. It really is. All built around the worst. of the worst. Now, Carl, I believe it's time for a competition since you won the last one and I don't know fucking how. You get to go first. I'll tell you how I did it by bringing in the biggest creep and I'm going to do it again for you. Now, yeah, today's category, by the way, Christmas creeps. Christmas creeps. And this one, I had to go back and double check that we

hadn't covered this one yet. I was a little surprised because this happened 12 years ago, just a few miles from where we sit right now. No shit. No shit. And in fact, it happened 10 days after Sandy Hook, allegedly. Allegedly happened 10 days after Sandy Hook or Carl Hamburger saying that Sandy Hook allegedly happened. I just want to clarify that. That Carl's opinions are his own YouTube terms of service. Now, Vinnie, what happened 12 years ago? Well, it was Christmas Eve. It was dawn, Christmas Eve, and there is a crazy fire, and Michael Chipporini and Thomas Kozowski, 43 years old and 19 years old, respectively, go to fight this fire, their firefighters, volunteer. They go to fight this fire, they get the call, and they are gunned down.

They were ambushed by a gunman. Why did you take a look at my first image here? This is what the fire looked like. So this is a blazing fire. The gunman set fire to his own house and his vehicle in order to get first responders to arrive. And then he was ready with three guns to take them out one of the time. That's pretty fucked up. It's wild.

Now, I know right where this is because this is down on that little strip down by the bay. Yeah, Lake Road. This is a very, very small area because there's water on both sides of it. It's almost like it just kind of jets out. into the lake and between the bay. It's just one road in and out. Yeah. So if you're caught in like a crossfire there,

you are really fucked because there's nowhere to go. And those houses are close to each other too. It's Primo real estate. So take a look at my number two. This is another zoomed out view of what this fire looks like. So you can see... Yeah, that's the area.

This is a ton of smoke coming out of this house and this vehicle. And so two other firefighters, Joseph Hofstadter and Ted Scardino, were both seriously injured but survived. They were also shot. Also, a police officer, John Ritter, was injured when the gunman shot his windshield and pieces of the glass hit him. And unfortunately for the firefighters, if you look at my next image here, some of them were a little bit too late. you can see the devastation of that house just completely gone

all of the stuff is the foundation I gotta be honest with you here's where I'm at with this if I'm one of these first responders and somebody whose house this is is shooting I mean I'm like let a fucking bird down fuck him and I go home I go home and smoke Christmas with my family

well let me tell you what happened show my image number four I'm going to introduce you to William Spengler Jr. This is the gunman 62 year old local resident who lived in that house he had spent 17 years in prison for murdering his 92-year-old grandmother with a hammer in 1980. Uh-huh.

So he murders a 92-year-old, his grandmother with a hammer in 1980, spends 17 years in prison. 97 he gets out. Fast forward to 2011, 2012. And he decides that he is going to start a fire, burn down the neighbor. and murder as many first responders as he possibly got. And he exchanged shots with police who arrived in an armored truck to remove the dead firefighters and 33 nearby civilians. Jesus Christ.

He was hit but ran off and then he died when he shot himself in the head. Also, later they discovered another body that was severely burned in his house. And it turned out that that was his sister, 67-year-old Cheryl. I didn't know that. So he murdered his sister. He murdered his sister, his older sister. I can understand that at the holidays. Then started the fire.

Due to the shooting, this is the crazy part, Vinny. And I know you remember this story. This was a big deal around here. Even more so than Eso Doe. This was a big story. So the fire crews were unable to fight the fire because they were being shot at. They weren't able to get the police to say, okay, we're now safe until 1130 a. I remember this started at dawn.

so this fire took out six other houses completely burned to the ground and two others that were rendered inhabitable you know i remember when this happened because it was absolutely shocking i was in alabama in my in-law's house and like hey is that rochester on the news and i was like oh lovely glad we could follow but i remember after people were sending pallets of water down there like it was a natural disaster for some reason it was just a very weird reaction to all this. It's fucked up that these people lost their houses, but I've been down there. They got much better, nicer ones that aren't as fucked up from the terrible Rochester winters and being right on Lake Ontario. So in disguise, what this guy did was

improved his entire neighborhood. All right. I mean, he did a different way than the gays normally to it, but he still eventually cleaned things up for people. That's true. But this guy is a convicted felon who murdered a woman with a hammer. How does he get guns? Felons can't own guns legally. Well, this is where it gets interesting, many. Investigators concluded that Don Newn, a former neighbor of Spanglers, bought a shotgun and an assault rifle for him at Gander Mountain in Henrietta. Would you like to see a picture of Don?

This is Dawn right here. No. This is her at trial for purchasing guns for a felon. She was 21 at the time of the purchase. Carl, you know the name Joe T? Yeah, of course. Okay. Joe T's old Rochester.

Mr. Greasbag. He's better out of the corner, and I've known Joe T forever. Joe gave me my first guest spots at a club. I've known Joe forever. And when this was going down, he's like, oh, it's a fucking shame. She used to be one of the bartenders at him and his boys' private poker games. Oh, no shit. Yeah, they all knew her. She was just like this sweetheart that they all knew and loved, supposedly. Well, she's now 36, but she was convicted in both state and federal courts for her purchase of the guns and served eight years for doing that. She's now out as of 2021 but she served eight years there boy was her face red when she found out what he did with him dude i don't know if you know this part of the story he wrote a two and a half page note

he typed one up on a typewriter two and a half page note okay that he left at the scene of the crime that the uh first responders found and so he right before he killed those three people he typed a rambling diatribe and that reads like a stream of consciousness tirade against a former neighbor, Don Welsher, who's the mother of that woman right there, Don Newellyn. No shit. Yes. So, this is what he wrote. So she,

he's friends with Don Jr. Don Jr., so he was neighbors with both of them. Yeah. You know, the mom and the daughter lived in his house. The daughter purchased these guns for him. And she got eight years for doing that. Listen to this. This is what he wrote. This is an excerpt from his note.

I got a Bushmaster and Mossburg Cruiser from her for the cost of $1,000 or for cost plus $1,000. But here's where it gets tricky. She sent her daughter to get them because she doesn't like to leave a paper trail. So the dummy will take the heat for the weapons while the person who set it up and made the profit skates if you let it go that way. So when you're checking the serial numbers on the weapons, you might want to take all of this into account. On one hand, you have the daughter who was going to school to try to make something of herself and was basically duped.

and the mother who sent her to get them. And even by my standards, is a low life and make sure the right one takes the hit for the weapons. Yeah, I know you'll probably screwed up anyhow, even when it's served up on a golden platter. And then this is the last sentence of it, he says. Now, if you'll excuse me, all this typing really aggravated the arthritis in my hands. And I still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn down and do what I like doing best, killing people. So he, in a two and a half pages, all we talked about was what a bitch this woman was, this Don Welcher, the mother of the woman who purchased the guns, saying that you guys are going to convict the daughter. It's not her fault.

The mother put her up to it. And guess what? She was interrogated by police. She was questioned. They found no fault. The only thing they know is this note. So it's his word against hers and she has never served a day in jail for it. Now, here's what I don't like about this.

that um i wanted to like this guy for improving the neighborhood now i don't like a tattletail we all know that nobody likes a tattletail and he was just trying to get this woman in trouble that he hates so he decided listen i'm not going to kill that woman but i'll get her thrown in prison by murdering a bunch of people with a gun she purchases for me but where it fucked up was when the daughter goes yeah here's those guns like ah fuck you're supposed to be your mom handing me these guns god damn it holy shit did you know that part of it no me neither i just just learned that this morning. I just know that everybody that I know that knew Dawn

Don Jr. loved her and said she was a sweetheart and a great girl. Yeah, I can't imagine she feels good about purchasing these firearms that ended up murdering first responders. No, I can't imagine she does. And I can't believe that New York State the state that apparently loves

to prosecute people for guns and shit loves to outlaw the guns doesn't go after the person when he's like, hey, listen, this is why I did it. This is very clearly what happened. Troy Smith, says, you think murder would be a little harder on arthritis than typing. Yeah, I would think so, too, Troy. That's a good point.

Because he was exchanging, I mean, he goes out to talk about how when he got the rifle, it only had a clip that could hold 10 rounds, so then he had to go to Pennsylvania and get someone else to purchase other clips for him. I mean, it's a crazy story. And that is my creep, William Spangler Jr., who decided on Christmas Eve to go out and murder some people who were volunteer firefighters. That's terrible. That's terrible.

When innocent people are murdered. It's terrible, Vinnie. It's an awful thing that happened, and it led to strict your gun laws, but that's not the point. The point is an awful thing that happened. Vinny, what did you bring for us today? Carl, I'm very excited to present my creep today.

That's gross. You shouldn't be excited about it. Well, it's a lot of fun this story. You're going to enjoy it. Everybody knows about the who's in Whoville. well this is ernest hulaver what a fun christmas name yeah and uh in july of 2002 he's 42 years old ernest huleaver junior he's married father of two he lives with his wife jean she's 43 and his daughter's victoria 20 and elizabeth 15 here's a great picture of the family there's jean in the

middle i think the older one is on the left and the younger one that looks a little bit like me is on the right story checks out yep victoria had been Victoria had a baby earlier in the spring named Madison and the family dynamic was changing a bit Carl you see what was going on was there's a new baby and the baby daddy Francisco Ramos and his daughter were very happy

together so family time was being effective specifically it was interrupting earnest ability to molest and rape his children which he had been doing for years you see This was making everybody way too, you know, talking and emotional and more people were getting involved in this business because, like, the dad's hanging around.

Now there's another baby. And he did all of this without the mom knowing. What an asshole! But things came to light in July, and Gene went to the police to protect her daughter, Elizabeth. And Ernest was hit with 13 charges of rape. What did you do? And they let him out on a $100,000 bail,

pending trial in January of 2003. Great. What could go wrong? Well, Gene got an order of protection from the Abuse Act and whoever was evicted from the family's house with no rights or privileges of entry and he was not allowed to own any firearms. Right. So he moves back in with his mom and his dad and his little brother, Scott, who's 28 years old. I mean, it's bad enough having to move back in with your parents, but because you're

molesting your daughters, that's a awkward conversation. Oh, it was everybody else's fault. oh okay well then they're all lying everybody's a liar but earnest you see who's that old guy over there uncle paul uncle paul with the creepy now he's giving his brother on christmas on the 23rd very late at night early into christmas eve morning uh they're drinking and he's like man these bitches all lied on me bro and i just miss my dog so much i miss my puppy all i want is my puppy for Christmas and he's like listen man if you drive me out there I'll steal that dog and I'll have my dog for Christmas and you'll be the best little brother guy ever had and Scott was like all right

I guess I can do that even though he knew he wasn't allowed to go back to the house or be anywhere near the family it's just to get a puppy though it's just to go steal the family dog I grab the dog it's fine yeah so this is literally hours away from his parents house so they have to through the night are driving and they're both drunk I he's going to say that's not a fun activity when you're drinking to go for a long car ride. Nope. So Ernest tells Scott to park about a block away from the house. It's 4 a.m. Christmas Eve.

And Scott said he watched his brother walk towards the house. This is the house right here. I believe I have a picture of it. And it's dark out. It's very early in the morning. And he comes running back to the car 10 minutes later and says, we got to go. We got to go. We were never here. We were never here.

We got to go. Uh-oh. Abort. And then multiple times on the way. Ernest said, Scott, hey, do me a favor. Pull over here. Pull over here.

And he would get out and, like, throw off clothes or throw something else to get back into the van. On the way back. Okay. So about 28 hours later. You got an extra license plate we can put back there?

Can we change out your license plate? By any chance? You didn't bring any extras? Okay. Checking. Yeah. It's not. Can we get out of there and hurry.

Should we paint your car real quick, a different color? so Scott knew something bad happened he wasn't exactly sure what happened but about 28 hours later on Christmas morning Middletown police sergeant Robert Givler was called and he knew Gene the wife he went over to their home

because they had gotten a bunch of calls from relatives who were concerned when they didn't show up on Christmas Eve and then we're supposed to come over on Christmas Day they didn't hear anything from anybody they were all very very concerned so as the sergeant describes it As he walked towards the porch, he looked through and saw Gene's body dead in the kitchen. He enters the house, and he hears noises upstairs.

So when he goes upstairs, he finds the younger daughter dead across her bed with shot in the forehead. And then he goes into the other room, and he finds the older daughter, Victoria, on the floor dead shot in the head as well. but holding her nine-month-old baby who was still alive and fine, who had just been laying on the floor next to his dead mother for 28 hours. That was baby's first Christmas, Carl. Wow. Well, good thing you don't remember your first Christmas. I bet Daniel B.

will do better with a little lady K. I think so, too. I hope so. I think she's a much better mother. I hope so. She's not going to let anybody shoot her in the head. She's holding her. She's holding her baby.

Elizabeth Hulaver, like I said, was in the bed. room sprawled across the bed dead they were all shot in the head with the 22 caliber weapon police are now going who is the suspect here and they're like oh could it i think we should maybe have a conversation with the dad who's being accused of raping all of them and all these people are scheduled to be witnesses and his trial coming up next month and they served a search warrant for earnest and they basically searched the house they found uh that there was 22 caliber ammo the house. And Scott was already out on this $100,000 bond. I'm sorry, Ernest was out on the $100,000 bond. So they arrested Ernest immediately revoked his bond and took him to jail. Scott sings like a

fucking canary. Of course he does. Scott is like, listen, guys, he said he was going to steal a dog. I knew it was wrong. I had no idea he went in there and fucking shot everybody. It was dark. I didn't see blood. I will take you everywhere. He took me on the way back to drop to stop. I know where it was. They told them everything, Carl. Now, you would do the same, right? On you? No, on a brother.

Oh, my brother, fuck yeah. Oh, my brother's an asshole. Fuck him. That's what I thought. So after the arrest, Ernest is behind bars, Carl. He comes up with a plan because this is what a great dad and what a great guy is. He's like, I can't go down for this for the murder I committed.

Yeah. So he tries, he starts asking around the jail. which is a bad idea don't ask anyone around the jail how you could hire a hitman because every one of them is looking to sell you out to get time out of their sentence when you're the new guy like you haven't even formed a bond or anything they're going to flip on you quick carl he's going to listen i need a professional who can frame the baby's father for the murders i like that he's asking other prisoners like if we knew a professional who could pull that off we wouldn't be right exactly why do you think i know someone like that and he's like my brothers are

You trusted your brother, and now you're going to trust prison snitches? Right. DTA, motherfucker, DTA. And he starts asking her out. And basically it sounds to me from everything I've read that the warden and the corrections officers all knew what he was doing and just set him up and let him keep doing it and documented it. So by the time he goes to court, they have a record of him talking to an undercover DEA to trying to hire a hitman to frame the son. or not the son-in-law, the almost son-in-law, the one who was going to marry the daughter that he murdered.

Yep. For killing everybody, but for some reason leaving his own baby there in the scene. None of it made any sense. So he blames... Not a bright guy. When he goes to trial, he's blaming everybody else. He still tries to blame the other guy in the trial that they're testifying. You're trying to have him killed from prison.

Long story short, short, kids, he was ultimately convicted and received three separate death sentences. And he was scheduled to be executed in 2000. 2011. But in Pennsylvania. We guess Biden pardoned him last week. No, dude. We're going to talk about the Biden pardons on the bonus episode because I've been reading some of the people who got clemency on the shit. It's pretty fucking insane. We're going to do that. There's your tease. But because they're a little lax and wanting to abolish the death penalty, he's still sitting in prison outside of Philadelphia. That doesn't make any sense, Rick. Ben on death row since August of 2004, or 20-some-odd years, they haven't executed him.

Good use of our tax dollars right there. There's the family that's all dead. And look at this piece of shit. All right. Look at this Christmas card right here. Great presentation, Vinny. Yeah, you shouldn't rape your own children and then frame the people who do love them for murder. Better than killing first responders, though.

We need to protect those people. Is it? Those are people to keep us safe. Is it? Vinny. Well, great presentation. Go to the creepoff.com. Vote for You Thought brought the bigger.

creep miss creep yeah and we'll tell you about the results next week uh drunken atheists atheist studio thanks for the two bucks merry xmas mfers thanks for not killing yourselves oh there's a new coof in town thank you for not doing that jimmy's neglected mother it's so great to hear from you how does a person get executed three times well it's a good point but that's what the state of pennsylvania sentenced him to that is stupid that sentences that is really dumb. Oh, buddy, buddy. Is it time for a Carl's cop cam?

It sure is. I can't wait to see Carl's Cockham. Fight with the cops for no reason. Will you please show me, Carl's Cop Cam? Lose all your rights. Ruin your life. This one comes in from Bugle Me This. Thank you for emailing this one to me.

We're going to start off a blonde, semi-attractive woman gets pulled over, and she claims she's got a flat tire. And that's why she's thinking that she got pulled over here in my clip number one. All right. Let's find out what happens, kids. I'm going to have VWC putting behind me. So it's been driving on only three tires. Signal one. Step out.

Step out. Okay, you need to step out. Okay. So I think I have a flat. What did they run my car? Okay. I have one acopen. It's gonna be female. She's signal one. I'm called quite. Thank you.

I think it's like the... Stop? Stop, touch. Okay. Yeah? What's going on? Did she crash? I was coming this way. I just saw it. I went down. I went the door. I turned around. Turn around.

Oh, I have a flat tire. Yeah, your lips. You have a flat tire? Yes. I have a flat tire. It happens. What are you going to do? This woman has melty plastic surgery face.

Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. But I still would. All right. So the police officer asked the question, ma'am, can you just tell us what's going on here? We want to know, and I love this answer that she gives. Okay.

I needed to stand in around my car. What's going on? Nothing. I just, I was trying to get home, and my tires aren't working. My tire's not working. It's a faulty Google Chrome. My tire's not working. She says that as her face melts like a candle.

Wow. I've never heard that before. That's fun. So then he asks, all right, well, what did you hit? And then we see the damages as he walks over to assess the damage. Just a couple bogs. What did you hit? Did you hit anything?

Did he hit another car? Can you stay with her? She's confused. So look at this, ready. Oh, I'm watching. Oh, my God. The tire is completely gone. The bumper is destroyed, ripped in two.

Not only that, the rim. And, like, the corporate is, like, bent inward. Yeah. She was driving like that. This is why she got pulled over. I'm sure there's worse cars in Florida. Oh, for sure. But that one's not going to pass inspection if they had such a thing.

So the other police officer goes back to assess the damages. There was a work zone, and they have the barricade put up. And it looks like she drove right into that barricade. Take a look at this next clip. Looks like she hit the wall right here Oh shit Rim Look at this

There's just pieces of her car In the road right here That's definitely fresh Large pieces of her car all over Bumper Check the plate on it There's a guy looking at what that looks like So I think they're drawing the conclusion

But that's the car that was involved In that accident with the barricade they're putting these two pieces together and going maybe this is the car that drove into that barricade. You can never assume, Carl. You can never assume. That's what they're saying, so they keep asking her questions about,

okay, so did she get the barricade back there? What happened? She's going to explain what happened in my clip five here. You don't remember or you don't know? I know. It was just like an inconsiderate person that just was parked in the wrong place. Okay. I actually backed into that.

You back to the car? Correct, yes. So why you have a damage to the front in the front of your car? That is not my fault. That was like a previous job. I live on Waddell in Alberta. Okay. And unfortunately, like tourists and things like that, they just like back into my car.

I don't care. I don't care. Tourists back into her car and she doesn't care. She also backed into a car that was parked in a bad spot. But they were an inconsiderate person. And there's no damage to the back of her car. car. So backing into another car doesn't make any sense. I don't know if she's trying

to make up lies on the fly, or if she doesn't even know what happened. You don't know what she's trying to do? I don't know if she believes this happened. She's so fucking out of it. It's very hard to say. So my clip six, she's still very confused about why she got pulled

over. All right. So do you know why I pulled you over? Do you know why I stopped you? Yeah. Why? Because what? Um, I wasn't very, like, good. Good and what? What do you mean?

Well, I wasn't definitely, like, taking accountability of the road. I was definitely, like, thinking we're about myself and not. Okay. Where were you coming from? Some of it. What the... Do you know I pulled you over? Yeah, I was bad.

What do you mean by that? Well, I wasn't very good. A kindergarten answer. I was being bad. I was being bad. And I wasn't taking accountability of the road. Right. I was just thinking about myself and not so much of the road is what she said. So I kind of love her for that type of honesty.

My clip seven, she comes up with yet another thing that happened, and this is crazier than the last one. Well, whose fault is this one? So how you crushed your car? I mean, I just hit him. It was awful. You hit who? I hit the driver. You hit the driver? I'm sorry.

I really, like, tug on the hands. Yeah, he, like, pulled out, and I didn't have time. break So now she's saying that a car pulled out in front of her and she hit another car and she didn't have time and it wasn't her fault, obviously.

Well, it's good for her to get ahead of these things. Wow. I thought she backed into a car that was parked, now a car's pulled out in front of her. I thought it was the tourist fucking up her car. She doesn't care. We're messing up her car, but that's what you get when you live in a beautiful part of Florida like this.

I wish she'd ended it with you know, I hit him and you know, I don't care. It's whatever. Yes. Well, so my clip number eight, they go, do you know about that barrier back there that you hit? And she's got a wild answer for this. Okay. How about, did you crash into the concrete barrier in the construction zone?

No. No, that was not you? I'm sorry? That's a 35 hour zone, so no. I don't like it. It's a 35 hour zone. Yes. 35 mile per hour

so. Okay. So I definitely do not like do that over. So, so that's not the place you crushed? No. So why we have a pieces of the car over there? Fuck fun. Good answer. Honestly like, why did he continue to drive? Why did I continue to drive? Yes. Because I want to be home. Now that I believe is probably the first

truthful answer that she has given. why'd you continue the drive? Because I want to go home. I would have looked at what... I would have looked at these cops at this point said what car. I wasn't driving a car, so you're making that up.

Who are you guys again? I would have just played completely fucking crazy. So, you know, you ask a stupid question to get a stupid answer, I guess. And so now they're wondering about this other person

she claims to have hit. And is that person okay? Where are they? Let's get into that. My next clip. Dude, that person zoomed off real quick. Oh, so they fled.

100%. Okay. Of course I would stop and ask if you're all right. There was actually like a fatality and, sorry. Okay. So. There was a fatality, too? So the person she hit Sped Away,

she wanted to stop and make sure he was all right. But then there was a fatality and then she got to trowled off after that. Okay. Hold on a second. I love how this starts like. And where's the other driver? I wish she was actually, well, you know, he was wedged in the bumper, but he fell off when I hit the barricade. Right.

Yes, I got rid of that guy. Jesus Christ. Now, this is crazy because across the street, a guy drives up claiming that she called him and that he's her friend. And he's coming to rescue her. So my clip 10, we're going to see the friends show up here. And you're going to be in big trouble. She called you? Yeah, she called me.

Until she had an accident. Let's get here off the roadway, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's drunk, okay? She's drunk. She just left work. You don't know him at all? You don't know that guy over there

who randomly decided to stop with you? Or come out over here? Maybe. All right. Maybe. She has no clue. She just called this guy, and he's like, hey, I'm her friend, I'm her friend.

She's like, I don't know who that is. I'm not sure. You really don't know what that is? She's like, I don't know. I mean, he's all the way over there. I don't know. It's hard to tell. Rocco or B he's killing it

Thanks for the five bucks Who sounds funny are the dumb valley accent blonder The cop who sounds like Agadour from the Birdcage Yes I know You have to get past that in this video For sure All right So the guy the cop is talking to the friend

Who's across the street And he's like so you're friends with her And he goes yeah yeah we're just friends He goes oh you're just friends He's like I mean I'm trying But no we're just friends So this guy's a sip who's trying to fuck her And so she knows that

And calls him after she hits the barricade to try to get him to help her out because she's obviously using this i'll help you out you help me out i'll tell him you were at work using his loser what's her job do we find out yet she works in a salon she was just leaving the salon she says oh they're all drunks at the salon do you think they're all drunks at the salon is that what's going on i wouldn't want to go into a salon and have there be drunk people working on me i come bucket thanks to the two bucks says i bet she gives head that'll make you see god she might she she's got those uh dick suck lips, as they say. Yeah, she had to pay for

him, but she's got him. All right, so Vinnie, they bring her back to the police station and this is the highlight of this video, my clip number 11. Oh, good. Oh, no, no, not that this one. Stop it.

Isn't it 11, take a seat? Oh, I'm so sorry, buddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you need to use a restroom? I'm good. You need some water to drink? No. No? No, good.

Thank you. All right, then take a seat, please. Don't she goes. Not even... I guess I couldn't sit in that seat. Not even close. Not even close to sitting in that seat. She just tumbled next to it.

So, really, this is my clip number 12. I have the slow-mo replay for us. Oh, I'm so sorry. Let's fuck that up. Yeah, let's watch the slow-mo replay. Okay. Number 12. Yes, please.

Please. So you see her not looking at the chair. I'm sure I'll figure it out once I get to the wall. Okay, Carl, she puts her hand down to help her go down to the chair and there's nothing there, but she still continues to move towards it. She's way down. This one was just driving a car with three tires. Look at her now. Oh, Florida.

Yep. Just put my hand on the, oh, shit. The cop, by the way, does not flinch. He did not ban an eye at that He's seen that before Do you think it's at the first time? So one more clip on here We can see that she's very confused

About everything that's going on Oh shit Can you just express something to me please Um So Apparently I like Swiped that car correct No

You didn't hit car hit barricade. A what? You hit barricade. The what? In the construction zone. Oh, yeah. Dude.

Totally get it. That's something that happens because a 30 mile per hour zone. And like, yeah. I've talked to girls who were in this truck before. You're like, all right, sweetie. We're not going to be making any sense for the rest of the night, are we? I love her so much, though. So she refused to take a breathalizer.

She refused to do the field sobriety test. at the scene. Can my friend just do it? She was charged with DUI, DUI damage to property reckless driving, leaving the scene of a crash and refusal to submit to a DUI test. Holy shit, Carl, bravo. And she was given 18 months no license immediately because it's the second time she's refused to take a sobriety test in the last year.

She doesn't strike me as the kind of person who'd learned from the first one. Right. Or remember. Or even remember what happens. Even back in the precincts, you should have no. idea what was going on and what had just happened to her. Solid point. So that would bugle me this. Thank you for sending that in.

Continue to send in your fascinating cop videos for us. We do appreciate that. Let's get caught up because I think there were some. Yeah, fast, fat guy, 666. Merry Christmas boys. Merry Christmas to you fast. Fat guy 666. Thanks to the two bucks. Captain Cheese, thanks to the 499. The only way to celebrate Crete Miss is to vote for Carl. Wait a second. You're making a lot of good points.

No wonder you tried to skip that. Motherfucker, that is how you sell. I didn't try to skip it. Yeah. Uh-huh. I come buckets, $2. One $2,000 sports betted yesterday. Here's two bucks.

Oh, thanks. Thanks, buddy. We appreciate you. We appreciate your point one. Congratulations on your hot streak. If you have any tips, let us know. I lost yesterday. Dude, my fantasy team, we're in the playoffs, right?

Yeah. My fantasy team scored 158.5 points, and I lost by 1.5 points. That sucks. Brutal. Yeah. Brutal. lost, but I did go to the bills game yesterday, and I wore the shirt that you got me. Did you really? I sure did, Vinny. Did you like it? Oh, I love the shirt. Remember when it sat on the

back? I do. What did it say? Tell everybody. Josh Allen, will you cream pie me? Yeah. And my wife asked me what a cream pie was. Oh, so you're welcome. Yes. You're welcome. So I'd explain that to her. But I was wearing a coat over and I'll be honest. It was quite cold out yesterday. I believe so he wouldn't he couldn't read it on the back of the shirt no i don't think he read it you know what i was thinking about getting that double-sided on the front having uh he couldn't even see his receivers let alone the back of my shirt yeah he had a bad day i was thinking i would get added to the front of that james cook may i please blow you okay yeah that's fun yeah what a game he had yesterday on it yeah i think it was like five degrees out terrible why the stadium why aren't they putting a roof on

the stadium i go to the detroit game it's lovely i have a beautiful time we hang out there before, after, it's great. Man, fuck New York State. They're so goddamn stupid. So stupid. Buddy, you know, there's a present for you right in front of you. I see that. You can open your other present. You've got me a birthday present. Now you've given me a Christmas gift as well?

It's a creptuous present. Wow. You're too good to me. I feel bad. I come here empty-handed. Wow. That's new. I didn't realize we had this type of... I get you a gift every year. Girlfriend, girlfriend relationship.

Don't I get you a gift every year? You do, buddy. You do. I should have... She still hasn't picked up out of any of this, but all right, I'm the problem. I like how I'm the problem. Enjoy motherfucker. Enjoy you piece of shit. You fucking asshole.

Oh, yeah. He's a real American beer shirt, dude. Did you get this in Detroit when we were there? No, I had to order it for you. That's awesome, man. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Fuck your mother.

Oh, that's a killer shirt. Yeah. Thank you, buddy. Please use it to hang yourself. Five X. Huh, I know I put on a couple LB. That wasn't, that one wasn't mine. Thank you.

Vinny, so thoughtful. I appreciate that. Let's do some voicemails. And, of course, they're brought to Aspire Friends in Syracuse. The Creepoff voicemail segment is brought you back. Hold on a second here. Carl. What? I fucked up.

Yeah, no shit. You always do. What'd you fuck up this time? Man. Did you not get the new Syracuse? And I spent so much time. Oh, there it is. I'm playing it.

God damn it. Vinny's very stoned today, everyone. No, he's not. The creep off voicemail. segment is brought you by the city of Syracuse. Remember Syracuse residents, Santa and his reindeer want milk and cookies. Please stop with your Coors Light and Chewing Tobacco. See you in Syracuse. Ho, ho, ho. Nice. All right, Carl, we have plenty of voicemails from our listeners. And I have to say, we always appreciate hearing from all of you. So thank you for that. Let's start off with this one.

In an alternate timeline where Vinnie did kick Carl off the creepoff and hosted it with John. Vinny has now won his ninth week in a row. And John has not been a single cent. I like it. I was listening to your proposal on WATP, by the way. Yes. About how you guys want to make DabbleCon 3, John's One Man Show. Oh, yeah.

It wasn't my idea. It was a color. Oh, man, I won't let him in the building. He could just fuck right off All right Well, he could buy a ticket if he wants You were like a lover scorned Hey Vinnie

This is a theme song you guys can use Anytime you talk about a public masturbator Here we go Rolling like a creep of the week Okay, don't do any more of those Yeah, actually sir I think we have it over here Jagging it, Jagging it Jack

Spike it, Jacking it, Spikeyty Smack Our old pal DP here Hey guys, it's your Opel BP. I just finished the bonus episode with Nancy Grace. And I just got to thinking, you have a couple with the pug, how the lady was fucking the pug. Yeah. How gross is your dick? And how bad do you have to be at sex?

If your wife or girlfriend or whatever's like, you know what? I think I'll fuck the pug. I mean, maybe like a great being or a St. Bernard, like, yeah, give me that thing, but the dog itself is the size of, like, a basketball player's shoe. That's got to be the most disappointing dick that a dog can have. How fucking ugly and small is your dick for the pug to look like the winner out of it, too? Fucking gross. See you next Monday.

It is quite insulting. I agree, sir. Well, what actually happened was she originally wanted to fuck a black laugh. and he wanted none of that. Really? He was very upset. Too discerning, huh? He's like,

you will not be fucking a black lab. He's very racist guy. Nancy Grace is fucking awful. She's so bad at their job. It's fun. She's not even on a network anymore. She's at Dr. Phil's website. It's fun.

Hey, Carl. When are you going to get your chest wax then? I'm still waiting. Come on, it won't hurt that much. Don't be a pussy. Don't make stuff stirring John right. Come on. You normally have an excuse for putting off your consequences for weeks on end,

but this one, it's a bad look, pal. Come on, man up. All right, we'll get on it, Boner Guy 69. Hey, I have a voicemail for us. Please. Hey, Carl, this is for The Creep-off. I've been good at calling that particular number instead of here, but I'm not sure Vinny would play this one.

So, Vinny's complaining. Oh, I don't know, Rich Boss, all weekend. Uh, first of all, the Drew Lane show would say, ooh, second of all, I wonder how many times he called Benny John, because that's hilarious. Also, he's bitching about, oh, take me a winter adventure, Christmas adventure. Put this on his wheel. Go ahead and Google Frankenmuth, Michigan. That's where a great event in fleet is from. It's a town in Michigan north of Trudy Furndale, Michigan, way north of that.

And it's a little Bavarian village. And they have Bronners, which is a giant Christmas store open every day. All year round is Christmas. Huh, suck that. That thing. Why the fuck would I want to go to that? I didn't want to go to the one I had to go to. And that...

That's why it's a consequence. It all fucking sucks. That's why it's a consequence. He calls back. Okay, I was drinking. After you Google, Frank and Moose, Michigan, and Bronner's, sent it to Vinnie's wife. That's funny there, Joe. of a bitch.

Yes, that's the move right there. Yes. You son of a bitch. Now, I'm going to tell you something right now, Carl. Yes, sir. If we put that on the wheel, it will be pointless because you just refuse to go. Oh, I go to Michigan every year. A couple times a year these days.

It'll be fine. It's not a problem. You know where I don't go is Indiana because there's no reason to ever go to Indiana. All right. Last voicemail. Hey, Benny. Uh, yeah, it's the guy with the results girl bullshit. P.S. drunk again, buddy, but, uh, hey, uh, meetings?

Man, nobody likes to quit or fuck yourself. Bye. Just go and listen, sir. Just go and listen. That's how you start. You don't have to participate. You just go and you listen. You don't, I mean, you'll sit there and you know, maybe things will ring true to you. Maybe they won't, but just go listen. Maybe you'll feel inspired, but you don't have to. to go in there with any preconceived notion.

And a Merry Christmas to you and your poor family that you probably bother constantly. Just kidding. You're a good guy. Thanks for calling. I want to remind everybody that if you want to call the creep off, the number is 585-37-1-80-108. Call us any time, except right now I'm busy. I guess that would make it time for a scum parade, yeah? Remember when you first created that number of people were calling us during the show and it was ringing?

Yep. That was fun. It was fun. Simpler times. Yep. Simpler times. Scum parade. Take me on a raid of these fuck charades that these creeps have made.

Scum parade. Vinny and Carl going to tell you about some fuck shit. Scum parade. Like stories of a kid fucked by his mom or dad. Soaking up the blood of a cat. Scum parade. what do you say we start up in fall river massachusetts police were executing a regular search warrant for a 33-year-old man named robert langlius and another suspect they fled to a roof

and footage showed the officers peeking inside of a home then yelling to his fellow officers that at least one of the suspects was on the roof and they went up there to try to hunt him down well he probably was hiding in a pretty good spot where they couldn't find him right no carl he was hiding in the most wonderful holiday place one could hide in a chimney oh boy that's the stupid fucking idiot he decided to crawl down these people's chimney and got himself stuck he was screaming for help he was he was trying to run from the cops and all he wanted was the cops to show up immediately meaning this is like a scene out of saw this is the scariest shit imagine being stuck in a chimney what was he thinking i would have chosen a well you know a very deep

well over a chimney this this is a man who's been to the prison showers before oh good points he's just fucking kid me out of here now he's stuck down the well screaming for his life and the cops are just taunting him calling him an idiot which is fine they ended up having to call the fire department to knock down part of the chimney to get this fucking guy out which is crazy vini this is the one thing about us fat guys one of the advantages we have we never even consider doing this first off we don't run and then secondly i run every day I'd never even think for a second, like, I'll probably fit in this chimney and get away with it. I just wouldn't, I don't look at anything and assume I'll fit.

Right. Yeah, I'm never jumping into anything. What's that kind of freedom like? It's wild. My wife has that freedom. Right. Just would have gotten away from the cops. For sure.

Right through. Just, God damn it. So he's in lockup on drug charges and other charges for outstanding warrants. And who's paying for the chimney? So I want to fucking know. I don't know. It's going to be expensive, though. that I saw the photos of them taking out brick by brick in order to get this guy out.

Dude, how why do they let him just suffer in there, though? That's got to be the most uncomfortable thing ever. So they call the fire department. Like, yeah, we got a guy stuck in a chimney. Also, would you mind stopping by Hortons? Pick up some donuts and coffees. Yeah, take your time, by the way, guys. If you got other calls, there's a cat of tree or something like that, go ahead and worry about that first.

If you got chili you just started, finish that up, you got a card game you're playing. No rush. What a fucking. moron. Oh, you guys are in a poker tournament? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. It's fine. Whenever you're done, come on over. Well, I understand you got chili on the stove. So whenever it's done, come on down, boys. All right. Let's move on to Mississippi, Carl. Yeah, robot Glock is right. This is the story out of Gremlins where, uh, that for whatever reason, the love interest is just like, yeah, my dad died trying to pretend he was Santa Claus. He got stuck in a chimney. And then we smelled him weeks later. It's his body with deteriorating. It's a wild.

the story anyway moving on we thought he went for milk all right this is a tanya saucier she's 49 years old and uh she is in a lot of trouble carl well that's her and her husband yep that's her husband in better times yep in better times uh where was the husband's name ray that's tanya and ray yes and then there's tanya's mug shot there you see they uh recently were divorced okay Last Tuesday, the final paper were signed at the Lenar Rawell Criminal Justice Center in Poplarville, Mississippi. And Mr. Saucer, he's now divorced. He's a free man about to go live the rest of his days. He's a swinging bachelor again, walks out onto the steps of the courthouse, only to see his stone-faced ex-wife holding a Glock, and she just straight up guns him down on the court steps.

As soon as he got the divorce finalized, she shot him nine to ten times. You know what kind of pent-up rage that is to shoot someone nine or ten times? You've been thinking about this for a while. After the shooting, she was apprehended at the scene and arrested on a single account of murder. She's a state tax, a state representative. No, right, I'm sorry. This other guy who they were interviewing, who I tried to cut out because he was boring. police reportedly have found fun have a big problem in Mississippi with the jails and the courthouses

apparently people are beating the shit out of each other at the Mississippi courthouses on the regular yeah they're saying there's not enough security and there's a person quoted in there saying that you know if we had more security what would more security do the guy walks out of the courthouse this woman has a pistol and shoots him ten times well the answer is more witnesses there's plenty Witnesses. Her own attorney was there and saw it. His attorney saw it. Everyone saw it. She didn't give a fuck. I love the drama. Like, this is the way to do it. This is like straight out of a, I don't know, I don't watch lifetime movies, but I assume this is what happens in lifetime movies, right? A couple gets divorced and then the mom puts 10 bullets in a guy for all the abuse that she had to endure while they were married. She was standing next to her attorney when she did this, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's taken, they have seven grandkids together. And apparently he was indicted in August on charges of aggravated assault and domestic violence against her.

Right. But his divorce lawyer says it was Tanya, who was the alleged instigator and attacker. Yeah. And I'm kind of... See? She's kind of a bitch. I'm telling you guys. Your Honor, I rest my case.

Yeah, right. I think maybe she was instigating these fights. I mean, you see what just happened? Seems plausible, right? Also, I love there's a family member that says, I wish they could have worked out their problems in a peaceful way. you know who else which is that ray or james i mean whatever this guy's name is you know what i think though i think this is going to be great for the grandkids and the kids they don't have to do that too christmas bullshit oh good point they don't have to go to any of them that's a good point

do we have to visit grandma no you never have to visit her in jail okay thank you do we have to go to grandpa's grave you know we'd go day after christmas because he'll still be there yeah no worries he doesn't know all right you want to meet the most heinous bitch i could think of of. Oh, yeah. This is Denise Zamora. She was arrested last week. She's accused of abusing her daughter who's 15 years old. Someone put a baby in that? Ugh. I'm imagining with science's help.

Oh, maybe. Well, this woman has committed upwards of $1 million in Medicaid fraud. Good for her. As well as... Steal from the system, baby. As well as tugging at people's heartstrings with fake charities. Oh. Now, Tarrant County

Investigators alleged that Zamora took her 15-year-old daughter who is nonverbal, can't communicate, to a bunch of doctors and put her through a bunch of treatment so she could go, oh, my daughter's sick,

and she has all these problems. And she'd take her to all these different places to get people to pay for it, and she'd go out on Facebook and give them to give her money. And, go fund me after go fund me. And Carl, they said the daughter's deaf,

nonverbal, her mother would answer forward all the medical visits, they said that her daughter, they would put her through pain treatments. She says she wants more chemo. You can't understand her, but I can understand it. She's in so much pain. She got this deaf, nonverbal child addicted to ketamine from the doctors. They kept saying she's in so much paid. They started giving the kid fucking ketamine. Get her in the Khole, everyone. Better than a chimney. So she's now facing a slew of felonies. They had at one point, They had her put a feeding tube into her daughter. Why?

Because she couldn't eat with her mouth. No, she could eat fine with her mouth. After they took the fucking feeding tube out, they handed her a sandwich and she was like, she had got a snickers over there too? Yeah. Jesus Christ, they put her through this poor child through this really painful shit. So they say that she was faking her daughter's illnesses for both cash and attention. Now, the cash part I get.

The attention part is embarrassing. that's the part I'm like really that's you need attention that bad you got to pretend your daughter has cancer she pretended she had cancer that's why she has a shaved head yeah she shaved her head to pretend that she was getting treatments yes now I'm getting cancer too and during all of this she builds a brand new three hundred thousand dollar house wow where she get that money from I wonder she was doing things that she was faking all these symptoms that she had including she was faking having heavy menstrual bleeding she put ketchup packets in her underwear. I was like, pay attention to me. I know. She's like at the Halloween store, trying to make it look like she's got a bloody vaj. Oh, this is happening again.

It's just, it's just my cancer. But let's not pretend this is the first woman to pretend she had a headache, though, okay? Yeah, that's. Unless you think that's the only one's doing that. The gateway to womanhood, faking headaches. So the charges she now faced a good aggravated assault with a deadly weapon related to a scalpel, she allegedly used to insert a feeding tube into her daughter. She did it herself.

She refused to answer any questions on her intentions when confronted with the allegations. She's denied doing anything wrong to the victim and continually blamed the doctors. It is the doctors who did all these things to her. The shaving your head thing to pretend that you're going through chemo is not going to last more than a day or two. Kemo patients don't have stubble. You know what I mean? doesn't grow in. Oh, fell out, now it's growing right back in again.

That's cool. What a deal. A lot of the people with chemo just shave their heads preemptively. Sure. So, you know, they should stop doing that because that way people would be tougher for them to fake it. I see. So you think it was a smart move that shaving your head? No.

I'm just saying it's easier to fake. Stolen valor or whatever. Yeah, someone in the comments said, wouldn't it be just easier to just get a job? Yes. All these people who try to pull these elaborate stamps. Who's paying her? Billion dollars. Who's paying her a billion dollars?

What all you have to do is abuse and nonverbal. Are you kidding me? No, word how to video edit. Good point. Good point. Even Tugie can do it. Can't be that hard. I could do it.

Can't be that hard. Correct. All right, Carl, let's talk about the last creeps on today's show. A Belgian couple who repeatedly raped their four daughters and used them as sex slaves. Wow. Left them with sexually transmitted diseases, bruising and pelvic. injuries. The mother and father who have not been named for legal reasons were sentenced over a decade behind bars after subjecting their daughters to horrific abuse when they were

between the ages of 12 and 21. It's a hell of an age group. Yeah, quite the range. The parents abused the four girls, one of whom is said to be the man's daughter, while the other three are the women's from a separate partner because they desired threesomes but lacked funds to hire prostitutes. I don't remember that episode of the Brady Bunch to you. How do you think he got they could afford the prostitutes how do you think you got the hiv yes good point so so this is wild from the boys down at the why this is wild this guy is like i really want to have threesomes but i'm not an attractive guy my personality sucks balls we can't afford prostitutes there's these other women living in the house maybe we can bring them into the bedroom with us and the wife's like oh yeah i guess

you know we can't you're right we can't afford prostitutes so this is how this went it's like a child driving past a McDonald's with their mom in the car. Oh, I want McDonald's. We have McDonald's at home. Yeah, you don't need McDonald's. He sees the young pussy on the side of the road. He's like, I got to get some of that. He's like, we have perfectly good pussy at home.

Right. And I love that there's four women and one guy. And the mom is saying, well, you know, he threatened me if we didn't do all this stuff. It's like, you outnumber him four to one. If you weren't women, you would be able to do that math and figure it out. because this went on for years. But I think that the mom is also a disgusting pervert because she's also going down on her daughter, which is wild.

They're both in on this, dude. Now, listen to this fucking paragraph. The couple both of their 40s would threat the girls with homelessness if they refuse their sexual advances, with one girl being told sex would help her own relationship, while another one was told it would help her lose weight. We can't afford those Zempick, so just let Dad rape you if that's cool. Well, the herpes he's going to give you might do a number.

number on your brain, but you know, you won't be hungry for a little while when they put you on the meds. The examination discovered the two girls had sustained pelvic injuries, bruising and sexually transmitted diseases. Jesus Christ. The girls were given alcohol, muscle relaxants, and lubricants when the abuse took place. It's a ditty party. Teach your kids to be prepared.

Texts from the mothers to the girls showed the level of manipulation they face with messages revealing how she would tell them that they didn't participate, they would destroy the family. Oh, what a family, too. we don't want to ruin this. The two youngest daughters, yeah, I know, right? The two youngest daughters escaped and the couple were arrested on their home on December 30th, 2023.

And the mother admitted during the police interview that she participated in the rapes of her daughters and stepdaughter because her partner would often beat her if she did not comply. Bullshit, bullshit. And then his story is, it was her idea. So going back to your idea about McDonald's, where she's like, ah, we got the pussy at home. We'll just use that. And could you imagine being a guy where you're like, Oh, rape our daughter. Why didn't I think of that?

Okay. Yeah, you know, I never would have crossed my mind. You're the brains of this family. Thank you very much. Of course I never crossed his mind. Who listens to their wife? Yeah, I never would have came up with that on my own. But now that you said it, it sounds like a great idea.

Let's do that. Oh, boy. And then he claims that the daughter's actually seducing him, which has to be a new low, right? For a rapist to be like, I didn't want to. We believe the fat one was, sir. But the other three? Yes. Dear God

He got 15 years She got 13 years Fuck them And they don't reveal the names That's a thing they do in Europe Why do you protect these people's privacy? Who gives us shit Yeah

Complete garbage Fuck them Carl We got a couple more super chats Helping us celebrate I love it Now Did Fat Guy we get this one

Merry Christmas boys from Fat Guys 666 Thank you very much And then Next picks Haven't seen you in a while next picks. Thanks for the 699 Canadian. So have a Merry Christmas a Happy Hanukkah, a crazy Kwanza, a

tip-top tete, and a solemn dignified Ramadan. Sure will. Very good good, thanks very much for that, sir. Now, Carl, we're going to talk about all the people Biden is pardoning on Friday's bonus episode. Well, we can't talk about all of them. I only have

an hour. Okay, okay. With back with the main ones. Maybe we'll do some cop cams. We're going to have some fun, so we hope to see you on Friday. But most importantly, have the merriest of creep misses everybody. We truly appreciate it. And most, most importantly, tune into the Who Are These Podcasts YouTube channel in a couple of hours, 4 p.m. Eastern. We will have point dabble point. And what a week it's been with Stuttering, John.

So much to discuss. I'm sure even you are following this. A little bit. A little bit. I don't care. But can I also throw a plug in, Carl? I would like to plug the fact that I'm going to be joining our pal Dick Masterson today on the Dick show. nice we're going to be doing the uh creep off christmas all stars now i said to dick when he

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