The Creep Off - Episode 249: Cobra!

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

This week, we’re diving into the darkest crimes from New Orleans to crown the Biggest Creep in The Big Easy. Don’t forget to vote for who brought the biggest creep at thecreepoff.com.   We’ll also break down wild police footage in our Cop Cam segment, featuring a man caught pretending to be a CIA agent in one of the more bizarre encounters with law enforcement we have seen.  Scum Parade – This Week’s True Crime Stories  - A kidnapping horror in India where victims were held for ransom and terrorized with live snakes  - A Florida man arrested for child porn after his own son turned him in  - A Colorado predator charged with disturbing crimes against children and animals  - A Pennsylvania tragedy where two sisters tortured and murdered a three-year-old  Don’t miss this true crime deep dive with some of the most shocking criminal cases in the newsThe score is currently Vinnie 0 - Karl 0, visit thecreepoff.com to vote and decide this week’s winnerWant more of the madness? Support the show on on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to snag exclusive merch and get an extra bonus episode every week!This episode is packed with creeps, laughs, and plenty of reasons to shake your head. Don't miss it!Don’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108Want to support the show? Find us on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to get exclusive merch an extra bonus episode every week! 

Vinnie, we are live on YouTube. I couldn't be happier. You know why, Carl? Why is that, Vinny? Because not only are we going to have a great episode today, we're going to have a great live episode coming up in May at Hackamania. That's correct. Hackamania.com is where you want to go.

Purchase your tickets or tickets. And if you use the promo code creep right now, you will save 10% off of those tickets. We highly recommend it. It's going to be a lot of fun in Vegas. Absolutely. Looking forward to it. Use promo code creep though. Don't forget because those prices are going to go up.

So grab them early. Get on it. Let's start the show. Attention parents. What you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want.

Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm going to deliver the goods, because I'm I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Gooku, goon. Alo Creepos. I'm getting a terrible feedback on that. Good job, Carl. Ola creepos, welcome to your favorite true cry podcast, the show about creeps by creeps. For you creeps, I'm your host. Vinnie and joining me today it's hot cucka carol what is happening Vinnie Paulino

welcome to the WATP studios today as construction is happening over at the Carlsson so dude there's a new business that we are opening our owners are opening next door to comedy at the Carlson yeah it's event space basically it's be very cool they're doing an amazing job finally some event space in that building I know my God about time so there's just a ton of construction going on and it is so fucking loud in my office. That must be fun for you. I want to dude, if I were to bang my head

against the wall to death, no one would hear it. That's how loud it is. Oh my gosh. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. That's hurtful. Mason in Portland will see us in Vegas. He was there last year. Hell you. Looking forward to seeing you again, man. That's how he has that amazing photo of him

with the hunchback. It's pretty impressive. Did you rub it for luck? Coach, Sixthering Man, happy Super Chat Monday. That's right. Today is Super Chat Monday. We'll be celebrating the entire episode. But first, we've got to talk about how this show works.

That's right. It's a contest, Carl. This show is a contest every single week, every single Monday at 1 p.m. Eastern. Vinnie and I go live on both the Who Are These podcast channel and the Creepop channel. And we present the creepiest person from a given category today. It's New Orleans. That's right. Home of this year's Super Bowl coming up this weekend.

We got the Super Bowl coming up. So we thought, let's check out some creeps. from New Orleans and Vinnie and I will present our cases. You'll listen to those and you'll go to the creepoff.com and vote for who you thought brought the bigger creep in this episode of the creepoff. The winner gets a point. The loser gets nothing. Based on the voting.

And once one of us gets to five points, the round is over. And the other person has to spin the dreaded wheel of consequences. You did a great job explaining that. And I would just like to point out that last week's episode, I was on game point. You were. You're up four to three, and then you brought in the coolest guy ever. Here to tell us who won last week's episode. It's the great Danny. Danny, Danny, read in results, oh, dandy. Please won't you post that fanny all over the Patreon. Danny, Danny, that body's so uncanny. Boys move like lamb and shandy. Oh, yeah, she's my creep girl.

Hello, creepers. What is happening? Danny. welcome back to the program good to see you yeah i got to see you guys too sorry i'm a failure you are not a failure you are a winner you're going through your goth phase we're loving it over here i don't know oh vini might have a different opinion on this i'm a little upset i know i figured you might be i'm sorry upset i'm a little hurt uh oh it won't happen again i know i suck i'm sorry Tough but fair that Vinnie Paulino. You're tough but fair. She apologized.

It's water under the fridge. Okay. Very good. Welcome back to Annie. So could you please let us know who brought the biggest creep last week in the category of biggest creep in the stadium? Yep. We got biggest creep in the stadium. Probably a really close vote, I would imagine, right?

Probably a nail biter came down. You should have brought Fonzie. Came down to the very last minute, probably. the only guy less cool than Mike Milbury. Well, 69% of the vote. Vinnie wins this. 69! Please.

It's trying to make a point. Man, this is a huge... That's right. You know what this means, Carl? It means I lost this round. Sure did. You know what else it means? One more for the good guy.

Hell yeah, Carl, spit on the wheel, everybody, but there's no wheel in this room. I was wondering if you're going to bring the wheel over or not. That's a big wheel. It's a big wheel. It is. Yes, Lockhe did an amazing job with it. It's kind of stationary. So here's the thing.

If, you know, tell me if I'm mistaken. You have a consequence overdue. Kind of. The appointment. The appointment has been set. Okay. And this will be taken care of this week. What day is the appointment?

The appointment's on Thursday. What time? It doesn't matter. I would like to be there for this. It will be well documented. Okay. Why can't I come? It'll all be well documented.

So listen, here's the deal. Yes. That's fine. But I just want you to know one thing. What do you want me to know, Vinny? You only have to do one strip. No, I'm getting my whole chest wax. You're not changing it.

No, just have one, get one stripped on. I've got to get my chestwax. How about two strips, but they have to make a V? I'm going to do it before and after. Like I Zoroed you. I'm going to do it before and after. It'll be fine. Come on.

do a v for just do two just do two strips right down like a my chest isn't hairy enough for that to work i don't know that you'd be able to see it now wow oh how about your back can you do it on your back my back's not that hairy either about how about how about we just have him shave a v on the side of your head wow this is really changing quite a bit isn't okay so you have an appointment doesn't necessarily mean so but here's the thing the rules are it's a newer rule on the show but if you Have to spin the wheel and you have it completed your last consequence. The winner picks the consequence. And you haven't completed it yet.

So I understand you have an appointment. I'm going to leave that up to all of you guys out there watching. They can decide how they want to handle it. What would you pick for me? Let me pull up the- Yeah, I have the updated wheel of consequences. Let me pull up the wheel here so we can see what we're talking about because I'm always in the dark on this stuff.

All of a sudden, it turns out people are getting their chest wax and shit. No, I took it easy on you this time. No one even knows what's going on anymore. Okay, so maybe, uh, let's take a look here. We have number one, Patreon money, which I'm technically still getting. Yes, uh, living room baseball one season of Harrison Young's living room baseball. How does that work? You have to find out the rules from him, which means you'd have to have a conversation

with Harrison Young. Oh, and then play a full season. Yeah, and then learn how to do it. Wow. Okay. Then play a full season. Uh, $100 to the podcast, Hitman. God, I'm already done $30 with that fucking guy.

I got to figure out the system they have to communicate with the inmates. Uh-huh. is so fucked up i put in 30 bucks and then i write a note to matthew lewinski to try to set up a time to to talk to him to a video chat or something and it says oh that's 25 cents and matt lewinski has zero money in his account i'm like i just gave him 30 bucks what do you made he had zero money in his account you gave him money just because i tried i tried to because i'm trying to i was trying to set up a video call anyway i hope vince the lawyer sees this and realizes you're giving money to a murderer

He's not been convicted yet, Minnie. That's true. He has not been convicted. And she hasn't been resurrected yet either, so that's kind of the problem. Number four, Joker 2, Fale Adu, times three. You have to watch that piece of shit Joker 2 movie three times. Oh, shit, really? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, I don't want to see that. Yeah, oh, man. Don't lead too heavy into what you don't want to do, Carl. Vinnie and I had a fun night last night. We hung out with producer Chris and Lucy Typebox and Trucker Andy. and Mrs. Trucker Andy and Jenny Jingles. Yep. We had a big old movie night. We watched Battlefield Earth.

You ever seen that movie, Danny? No. Good. Congratulations. It's the worst movie ever made. It's fantastic, Rat Brain. It's fantastic. Don't you call me Rat Brain.

This movie is so fucking terrible. I still don't know what the point of any of it was. I don't understand the story still. And John Travolta's acting. it's so funny he goes in it out of like shakespearean like oh what's am i to do then what shall we do about the fetons and it was made by like the scientologists it's like what they believe i guess well it was a book that written by all ron hopper everyone was very confused at the party about this this is not a movie about scientology it's just the guy who started that religion was a science

fiction writer he thought this was a good story that he wrote yeah it's garbage sure wasn't it's really wasn't so number five carl back to your consequences wear later hosen for an episode okay the ones that i have currently in my closet or should i get new ones fine we'd all love to see you in them um viewer suggestions which is uh we would take viewer suggestions during this episode and then you know at the end of it we would decide you like that one of denny i do what would your suggestion be i'll probably either six or seven because like if you wear later hosen you can't even really see it because you're sitting down so you're going to like you know stand up the whole time well i think i think

what anybody means by your suggestion yeah is if anybody has something that isn't on the wheel that uh they put up in the chat today right and then like i would consider those at the end of the episode uh stuttering john stand-up set now i thought about this there's enough video of john's set you know the squeegee joke and now he's got this nice new chunk about new year's eve giving birth to a baby yep there is the perfect open mic at town it's 9 p.m on wednesday's okay um you would go up there with no reference we wouldn't be telling anybody this is a thing and you would go up and take your punishment and do john stand it back to a room full of strangers all right i mean you did it with

patrick michael i sure did fair is fair yep okay and then last but not at least hackomania dinner with a listener you know what is surprisingly not on the wheel right now what's that pass the spin well yeah well it's amazing bidding one and then it comes up with the categories but here's why takes off past the spin here's why there's no pass the spin on this because technically you're not spinning today because there's no wheel. I did not know you had a consequence booked. Okay. So I put it on there so that there was a choices. If it was my choice, I see. I would never select past the spin. So why not? I see. Okay. So give yourself a little bit of a bigger brush. So what would your choice be, do you want to say? I got to be honest with you,

what I'm leaning towards living room baseball every day you having to make a stupid video of that nonsense would be torment for you in particular. I know that would drive you crazy. That would suck. Um, the Stuttering John stand-up set would be very funny, though, because I would love to see a bunch of woke, woke Rochester people watch you go up there and do that. You would end up getting picketed. Oh, God. Yeah, it would not be great. Yeah, I know exactly what Mike. I'd send you two with that. The one thing I'll say about living room baseball is you and I have no idea how long that would take to do. He's still in the first season. He's been doing it 16 years. I mean, we have no idea how long it would take to play a season of living room baseball. Sure. So I would have to figure out more information on that. Okay. Well, I also do like Hackamania dinner with the listener because that's fun for the people who like the show that are coming. True. And I might lean into that one because here's the deal.

I would get to pick who the listener is. That's true. And I would base my decision. So I'm hanging out with cow photographer again. How absolutely annoyed or how they would embarrass you in their pitches. Okay. So that might be my pick. And actually, now that I'm thinking about it, you having to go to dinner with someone in Las Vegas?

that i might i might even be sick that week i don't know how i'm going to make it to bagas so far i don't that one might be fun that one might be fun so um i'm the stuttering john set seven or eight is where i'm leaning where i'm leaning but okay i guess guys tell us what you think should i get to pick or should carl have to spin the wheel next time we're back in the studio i'm thinking the wheel but uh well i know that's what you're thinking friend yep that is what i'm thinking all right well dandy thank you so much it's great to see you again great to see you guys see you next week all right at daint desolation on instagram folks follow danny should have apologized a little harder a little more groveling would have been nice i mean let's talk about what's really

important today okay okay we're celebrating as a nation not six more weeks of winter no we are celebrating every february third we celebrate super champ monday that's true and we do that with superchats from hunter duke since it's been a minute since i could say hi to all you creeps also vote viny and go see you april 26 when the champ returns that's true i'm doing a stand-up show been a while since i've done one of them okay so uh thank you uh eric i know he's common i really appreciate that sweet super nice of him and uh mrs uh what does he call himself on there again Joseph Kyle's two bucks as I voted for Carl because the Bruins rule yes vote for caro early and often I'm the biggest Mike milbury fan in the world now I'm gonna buy the jersey I'm telling

levered mystics a member for one month he says what about waxing to leave only a V I'll leave only a V so wax everything else around there interesting idea I think that's not a bad idea labrin uh red Jared C 10 bucks says another way for the people's champ the last consequence it's incomplete he's had time to get it done can't wait to see how Carl squirms his way out of the next Happy Super Chat Monday. Ola Red Jared C. He's a member of our Patreon. Great to have you on board, pal.

Oh, yeah. We had a, I'm the most recent Patreon episode. So we do those on Friday at noon. We had a cop cam video that's the craziest cop cam video we've seen. I don't think we would put it on a normal episode. By a thousand fucking miles. This guy, I don't want to give out too much, but it's worth checking out. This guy kidnaps his own one-year-old son and then uses him as a human shield when the police try to

the kid back to this mind i will say the police sent him a great job and saved this child oh my god but it is what it was nervous some carnage that happened no it's crazy rocko or b225 bucks says travolta's interactions with the man animals in battlefield earth is ridiculously funny and by the way do you want lunch oh is that the rat was he waving a rat talking about yeah yeah let's find out what they like to eat and then we can give them a treat raw rats oh al run Ron, you're so great. God, that movie's so bad. Even the special effects are garbage.

Dog shit. It's dog shit. And it's from 2000. When was T2? What did that call? 92 or something like that? T2 was like 1993-ish. Yeah, like, how do they have that bad of special effects in this movie?

It's a hunk of shit, kids. Don't watch it. A labyrinth mystic five bucks says, might try to Photoshop Vinnie and Carl as Battlefield Earth's scene. Vinnie holding Carl's head and a rat. Do you want once? That'd be awesome. Please make that somebody.

But, you know, the worst thing that drove me crazy about that is, like, the costumes. Oh, God. John Travolta had a codpiece the size of Carl. Yes. It was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. And he had this stupid wig on. John Travolta had a wig on in this movie that's dumber than the wig he wears every day. Right.

Yes. It's the worst wig ever. All right, Vinnie, are you ready to, the guys, thank you so much for participating in Super Chat Monday. We'll be celebrating the rest of the episode. Vinny, are you ready to get our episode started with? your presentation of the creepiest person from new orleans bring the bell car once show me uh image number one i want to introduce you ladies and gentlemen to antoinette frank she was born down there in louisiana in 1971 can i tell you something

funny so we were hanging out last night as i mentioned and we were talking about like what's going to be the category tomorrow and you said someone suggested female basketball player yeah so when you sent me this this morning i'm like i don't see basketball on this woman's wikipedia page at all what the fuck so i'm like what the fuck's the category gory then so i forgot that we decided new orleans yeah we decided new orleans because again this is where the super bowl is this week so we figured we'd uh give the city it's uh proper shalacking antern at frank is carl my creep today and she's considered one of the most infamous corrupt law enforcement officials in u.s history we have talked about the police in new orleans they were

we had one of the guys that biden pardoned off of federal death row was the louisiana police officer who was ordering hits through like local gangs yeah i mean there's some crazy shit that happens down there with the cops and for this particular case not only is she a super corrupt cop you're not even going to believe this what she was up to she's a lady kind of looks like maybe and even worse folks i'm going to tell you a little bit more about her when she originally applied to the police department in 1993 she was caught lying on her application she failed two psychological evaluations, the police or psychiatrist, Philip Scoria, strongly advised against hiring her, calling her shallow and superficial.

However, due to staffing shortages at the time and the city's mandate to hire more African-American officers, she was given a second chance and she graduated from the Police Academy in February 28th, despite being a top performer in training. she was a as described by her fellow officers ineffective she was frequently sent for supervisor reviews and even considered for retraining as early as august of her first year ineffective isn't the worst thing though you know just kind of like well she doesn't do anything it's fine well other officers added she was completely incompetent okay so things are not going great for but she is on the job her personal life was not great as well her father recently had been staying with her

and then went missing okay so she had to file police report she had no idea what happened to her father she's a single working woman carl and she did eventually find love oh good on november 25th 1994 she handled an incident in which an 18 year old gentleman by the name of rogers lacazi a known drug dealer had been shot frank had taken a statement from lacazi and uh the way they describe it is she was smitten with his bad boy persona a lot of women are And it didn't take too long before things got sexual. Now, she's 20-something. This is an 18-year-old drug dealer.

You are a police officer. What the fuck are you doing? She tried to keep this relationship a secret. She knew she was jeopardizing her career. And, you know, when shit hit the fan, she claimed she was trying to help him turn his life around, you know. And that's the way the news goes. The relationship, though, was kind of hard to keep under the radar, Carl, on account if she would take him to work. with her and let him ride her out of the cop car.

Oh, that's fun. Well, he knows where all the other drug dealers are, so it's probably helpful. At one stop, an officer told a story about how he observed him moving her police car for her. Okay. She was like, hey, babe, move the cruiser, would you? Can we move along to something creepy that happens? Holy shit.

The intro of the story. Okay. She was dating a guy. Okay. Yep. Then what happens? Well, she's, he's an 18-year-old drug dealer. I got that part.

I like drugs. Okay. What's your point? Well, they would also pull over cars and run. Rob motorists. Okay. Now we're getting somewhere. Yeah.

They would in the cop car, pull people over, and then rob them. Fun. Okay. Uh-huh. So that'd be a fun stop, I would imagine. License, registration, wallet. Watch, rig, cash. So another fun story.

Two guys get into a fight with Lekasey at a party. They leave. Within 20 minutes, they're getting pulled over by Frank. They get pulled over, dragged out of the. car put behind the car one of these guys testified he looked over and saw la casey walking up towards him with a tech nine okay like they were about to get fucking gunned down mm-hmm they both jumped on him and started fighting him at that point an off-duty sheriff's officer was driving by stopped saw the cop with the pull over and the fight happening she tells the off-duty sheriff that

that LaCasey was the good guy here and the other guys were the problem. Right. That gun went off in the skirmish. Those two dudes, she ended up getting them charged for attempted murder and armed robbery. Nice. LeCasey leaves the same anyway. Never questioned. Nice.

Unfucking believable. But a month later, they had a bigger problem, Carl. You see, she's trying to make more money. Yep. And she's moonlighting at this Chinese restaurant. uh well vietnamese restaurant i'm sorry called kim ah now she worked as an off-duty security guard you know off-duty cop security guard and one night march 4th 1995 the oldest daughter of the owners was the manager on charge she's in the kitchen counting money she goes into the dining room

to pay off the other off-duty cop that was there this guy officer williams was the guy who got my creep her job working there as a security guard so they know each other yeah married father of two by the way frank and lacazi had already been at the restaurant twice that night mooching food they showed up got food then she came back and said i get my employee discounted again got more food nice so they've been there twice that night as they're locking the doors and everything this woman realized she could not find her front door key and she looks up and there's officer frank walking towards the place with this dude with a gun looking very suspicious so she locks the door as quick as she can runs into the back to hide the money the door she uses

the key because what's her fucking name lanette stole the key opens the door comes in chases the lady into the kitchen the officer goes to follow her the off-duty guy officer Williams Lacasey comes in, shoots him through the neck, instantly paralyzing him, then shoots the guy in the head six fucking times. Wow. A bunch of the workers, the head shots.

The oldest daughter, her other sister, and then one of the workers hit in the freezer. Two teenage siblings were left out there with Officer Frank. Okay. Officer Frank is trashing everywhere where she thinks they would have the money, holding a gun on these kids saying, where is it, where is it? They didn't know.

The oldest sister hit it inside the microwave in the kitchen. Oh, nice. So they can't find it. And they're freaking the fuck out. So these two are being held there. They just execute them. Okay. They shoot the two.

One of them is like 16 and the other one is 21. Dead. Mm-hmm. Then they're looking for it. They can't find the money. They realize people escape so they leave. She drops off Rogers at an apartment complex. Here's that there's a 911 call coming from the area.

So she gets her cruiser, police cruiser, comes back to the back of the restaurant. At that point, the oldest sister is standing in the dining room waiting for the police to get there for help. Okay. Frank comes in through the back way in her uniform with her gun. She took a police cruiser there to act like she was responding to the call. Of course, that's what you do. As she comes to the back, she was going to fucking murder this woman. She goes running out the front door as the other cops get there.

And it's like, she did it. Yep. She fucking did it. She ends up getting arrested and convicted within 22 fucking minutes. He also gets arrested and sentenced to death. She got sentenced to death, but his sentence was changed to life in prison because he was a teenager corrupted by her. Okay. Supposedly.

And here's a fun fact. Remember I told you her dad was missing? Yes. After she's on death row, other people got her old house. and they started doing some digging and they found a human skeleton and a skull with a bullet hole in it and because she was already on death row

the police pretty much realized it was her dad but they were like it doesn't really matter and they didn't want to do any extra police work so she is an absolute piece of reprehensible dog shit Antoinette Frank ladies and gentlemen

my creep this week all right very good Vinnie well thank you for that for those you are still with us and still awake i'm going to present my creepiest person from new or let's now roger dale nunez and uh what happened here is a fire veney a fire at a bar that was uh a gay bar 1973 june 24th members of the metropolitan community church i understand why this upsets you so much members of the metropolitan community church a pro-lgbt protestant denomination were thereafter service

The MCC was the United States First National Gay Christian Fellowship. So they're doing this beer bus drink special. It's $1 all you can drink. The gay Christians are doing a $1. Yes, all you can drink. And so there's 110 gay people in this place called the upstairs lounge is on the second floor of this building. And they're having a grand old time from five until seven. And then that's when the special ends and some people leave.

There's still like 60 people hanging out. They're listening to the music and they're talking about. Oh, price drinks, Jesus, no. They're talking about fundraisers and stuff. Well, that's when a fire occurred. And it was a very deadly fire, 32 dead, 15 injured. Damn. And let me show you what this fire looked like.

So this is, that's the building right there and some of the fire damage. You can see, you can see it was actually burning out through the windows, big, big tall windows, but with bars on them. and we'll talk about that because that was not great you got to keep the ladies out this is yeah that's how you do it this is what it looks like today so they were able to to rebuild it this is a photo from the newspaper that day oh good can you take me on a tour here's one of the neighborhood here's one of the sad gay guys after all of his friends were killed you can see he's very upset it is uh his mesh yeah well tank top his outer shirt got burnt off carl that might be what happened don't make fun so let's talk about this guy who set the fire roger dale nunez

and why he would do such a horrific thing this is presented by a ton shay films so let's start with the actual events of that evening the mcc parishioners had gone to church in the garden district and we're coming here back to the french quarter of the upstairs lounge for their normal sunday afternoon evening beer bust their normal social gathering that they've been having for years but that That night someone that was new showed up, not one of the normal MCC parishioners, a guy named Roger Dale Nunez. He got a little intoxicated and started an altercation with one of the regulars. At that point, because there was a fight forming in the bar, which normally was never the case at the upstairs lounge, they had to decide what to do with this guy. They took the new guy, Nunez, and threw him out of the bar.

Shortly after that, someone that fit Nunez description showed up at this Walgreens, right here at Royal and Iberville, looked identical then as it does today, walked up to the clerk and tried to buy a four-ounce bottle of Ronsonol lighter fluid. They were out of the four-ounce bottles, the smaller bottles, so he decided to just buy the seven-ounce bottle instead. The clerk said he seemed like a gay man, and he fit new in his description, but that guy stumbled out of this Walgreens with that bottle of lighter fluid. So let's go ahead and walk out of this Walgreens just like... Okay. So he gets kicked out of the bar because he's getting a little rowdy, he's getting slap fights with other guys in there. They're not enjoying his company. He was getting it. Okay, so this is a bunch of gay churchgoers that are all drunk.

That are getting drunk. What are they fighting over? beer night. No, they're not fighting. Just this one guy, Roger, is a problem. They're like, Roger. Dude, relax. We're all on just having fun. Sunday, fun day. That orgy starts at eight. Yeah, right. Exactly. If you can hang, you can hang. So, apparently, the building codes weren't what they are now. Sure. Back then. They finally got the fire lit and left the scene. Now, the fire started going up with the accelerant, but actually the carpet itself was even worse of an accelerant than the lighter fluid

itself. Due to lacklester fire code standards of the day, this carpet was highly flammable. And this fire started growing quickly. People walking by saw the fire and came over here and attempted to put it out. No one in the bar actually knew that this fire was happening. Now the people down here thought maybe the fire had actually sort of put itself out because by the time it went up the stairs, the fire had diminished and seemed to have really extinguished itself. But that actually was not the case. So people see there's a fire going on. They're like, oh shit, that someone just lit a fire right here. Like, I probably burned itself out. It's fine. whoop-doo going about my day as they're dancing on I'm imagining very crusty

shag carpet aid yes okay yeah it goes up quick and easy so at right before 8 o'clock a buzzer from downstairs sounds and the bartender the bartender the bartender the bartender's a guy named buddy Rasmussen this is what he looks like this is him marty gras in 1970s hallelujah brother of so what you'd expect in a gay bar in 1973, I suppose. So he says, there's this guy Luther Boggs, he's a regular there. And you go, say, can you answer the door? I think it's a taxi driver for someone or something like that. So he opens up the door.

And this actually did not work out well for them because there was that fire that was started on the door. The instant, he twisted the knob and pulled. Air from inside the bar touched the superheated gas pocket in the stairwell, which popped like a balloon. The gas exploded into a fireball and the intense pressure of the resulting backdraft detonated into a vicious blast of smoke and heat. There was an enormous boom, loud as a howitzer. A wall of flame burst out of the stairwell, chewing through Luther and several other patrons

and roared 40 feet across the bar. The temperature inside the upstairs lounge shot up by hundreds of degrees. The wallpaper erupted in flames and curled to ash on the wall, fire flared across the entire length of the ceiling. All of this happened in the space of an instant. One moment, it was a normal Sunday night at a neighborhood bar. A heartbeat later, the walls were made of fire, and laughter had turned to screams. Pretty horrific scene, if you ask me.

So this guy, the bartender, Rasmussen, he goes, all right, guys, I know how to get out of here. There's a back way. He leads a bunch of the guys back where they can get on the roof and then get out another roof and then get down. But only like 20 of the people followed him. And there's a lot of people in this place. Why did they stay there? Well, because they're panicking. Oh, no.

This fire just came through. Oh, I bet you, they panicked too. It's probably not a great scene. That bartender's wig was on fire. Oh, my God. It's a whole thing. Yes, this is pretty brutal right here. This is awful.

Those who had in the panicking confusion failed to join Buddy's group, grabbed stools and shattered windows. The windows directly above the intersection of Iberville and charters were tall and large, but they had been outfitted with horizontal. iron bars spaced 10 inches apart designed to prevent revelers from tumbling out when the windows were open. Is that why? Yes. I was off. 10 inches apart, but you think we could squeeze through one of those and get out of here? No. These unusual circumstances, that safety feature was a death trap. The only ones who could squeeze out were the thinnest patrons who fell wreathed in fire to the street below. There were

almost 30 people jostling to get out of just two windows in the corner of the room, and the fire steadily advanced on every side. The brick walls trapped in the heat, and soon the iron bars glowed orange like firepokers. The metal scalded patrons' flesh as they shimmied between them, hot iron peeling sheets of skin from their backs. Reverend Bill Larson, the pastor of New Orleans' MCC chapter, was halfway through the grill when an air conditioner above fell out of place, striking his head before tumbling onto the street below. The window casing then slammed down onto his torso, pinning him in place. as he jet flamethrushed up over his entire body,

incinerating his hair and clothes and burning his lower body down to its bones. So, okay, the creepers whoever designed to this place, seven ounces of lighter fluid shouldn't be able to create a howitzer explosion-sized backtrap. 28 people died in the scene of this 16-minute fire. One died en route to the hospital, another 18 separate injuries, of whom three, including Boggs, died.

So a total of 32 deaths. Now, Nunes was diagnosed with conversion hysteria in 1970 and visited numerous psychiatric clinics. He was released from a treatment facility in the year before the fire. After his arrest, Nunes escaped from a psychiatric custody and was never picked up again by police, despite frequent appearances in the French corridor. So this guy who started the fire who killed all these people was still just hanging out in the neighborhood. And the police couldn't find him. He's over there at the bar.

He's got a hurricane. He's just sitting at the bar. A Fred later told investigators that Nunez confessed at least four occasions to start in the fire. He told the Fred he squirted the bottom steps with the later fluid. He bought it Walgreens and tossed a match. He then killed himself the next year, New Needs. So and I got to tell you, they actually weren't all that concern because they're just like gay guys who died. So the police are just like, eh, whatever.

Yeah. Sometimes he's fine. Sometimes these gay guys have their little squabbles and get to their little fights. He's got to let him play it out. Dude, I bet you the Louisiana, like we're talking fucking Louisiana good old boy cops. Oh, yeah. Looks like they got a little too flaming, didn't they? Oh, I'm sure there are a lot of jokes.

Oh, God. Being made about that, you know, it's kind of like the great white concert. We're like, oh, we don't like the kind of music they like. So it's okay. They all died in a horrific fire. That's the worst way I can ever imagine going. That is a horrible way, you know, breathing in smoke and suffocating with smoke in your lungs would be bad. But I also think burning from trying to wedge yourself in between bars that are 300 degrees each.

I'm just like wrapping my head around like the gay Christian dudes in the 70s. Yeah, this was a unique thing. Yeah. Very unique. They thought they were avoiding hell. And then there they are. They were in hell. Yes, that place turned into hell for sure.

So go to the creepoff.com and vote where you thought brought the bigger. creep from new orleans my guy who killed 32 people and injured 15 more or whatever bennie was yeah it was just a prank it was just a prank i got a cop who was fucking an 18 year old and going on robbing people from the squad car uh-huh yeah uh-huh uh-huh all right well with that it is time for us to move out oh you know what we got a couple more uh people celebrating super chat monday well bring on the celebration let's do that first I come buckets. Two bucks says the blacks in that cop cam were chimping out.

Whoa. Whoa. I come buckets. Whoa. I guess I didn't realize what was going out of there. Red Jared C. five bucks says, Antoinette Frank.

What does she got a diary of stuff? Those things of that nature. She certainly did. Home run. Come me a home run. Not Mark. That hurricane from 2005 was a big creep. Yeah, I almost brought Katrina in as my creep.

Would she do? No, I was looking up a guy who ate his girlfriend after Katrina, but you'd already brought him. See, I looked these things up. You know, there was another good one that they never solved, and I really would have done it, but they have no idea who did it. There was a thing called the axe man. Oh, yeah, I saw the guy too. He was just murdering Italians. Yeah, he's just going around and just taking the axe from their own homes that he broke into and then murdering the family.

Yeah, we're talking like 90s. 1910 1919 didn't steal anything didn't care about anything just wanted to murder italians just wanted to kill italians and they think it they've solved it kind of they can't ever prove it but there was one guy who got shot like climbing into a window of some italian's house so they're like probably him yeah probably him eb knee with five pounds says no serial killer storyville slayer still at large oh new orleans serial killer storyville slayer still at large a color called clay used to phone into the 90 stern show claiming to be the killer scotland for the win you know what i'll look into that thanks ebony interesting that might

be interesting for uh one of our bonus episodes hunter duke ten bucks is carl made to licking drugs not holding up to agreements very steel tell of you so carl repent and allow bini to pick as a chat suggestion carl must do rob sell show and be nice ladies and general there's a suggestion right there rob sol show and apologize to rob for all the mean things he said about him back to me he might be on w tp this week i might have rob on that'll be nice tune in to point dable point today at four o'clock on the who are these podcast youtube channel what's happening today we're going to have uh hugh zion shulie adam bush myself and we have much to discuss looking forward to that i hear that there's been some threats of playing other tapes yes there are new tapes apparently that rob

has and senatoring john has of kate mini a drunk kate mini talking all sorts of shit about shulie and other people so john has tweeted out that he might return for one episode to play these new tapes that he has very exciting stuff in the tattle verse you know what even if i believed that it wasn't pre-edited stuff by somebody else i would probably guess that kate make me and he's a bit of a basket case and oh i'd i'd love to hear it if it's real yeah i don't hear what's a i if it's a i want to hear what Vince wrote you know what I mean like whatever Vince wrote about Julie I want to hear it yeah but I'd uh I tune in John I tune in I wouldn't give you any money I'd tune in I come buckets I'm sorry I thought this was America me too buddy Joseph Collins five bucks

Carol Screep wins I lost a friend in the great white fire Kevin Washburn RIP my friend oh I'm very sorry to hear that I p Kevin Joseph Collins that was a uh a horrific thing that happened should have been at gay church Vinny what are you ready for some cop cam actions So ready, buddy. I can't wait to see calls, Codcan, fight with the cops for no reason. Will you please show me, cause cop can lose all your rights, ruin your life. Okay. What we have here is a black SUV speeding down the road and the police start following

him. Tyreek again? He is not pulling over. okay he's not pulling over it finally pulls into a driveway and that's when the police finally uh get to see who's there is been away from them now we're pulling into a driveway adam victor young eight four three three getting out what is this fucking guy what is this fucking guy What are you doing?

I don't know. What are you? What are you? Don't reach for anything. Walk in front of my squad. Just walking from my squad. You're speeding. Oh, fair with that.

Just walk in front of the squad. Yeah, we're having a mercy. He's probably OD. So. What's that? He's one of my informants. He's one of your informants? Yeah.

Okay. Well, I'll come inside with you. Yeah, come on. All right. This is Greenfield, Wisconsin, and this guy pulls over this guy who's wearing a vest Yeah, he's got some kind of badge.

Yeah, he's got some kind of badge or something, and he's kind of acting like, Hey, man, we're going to team up on this one? You know, the cops was like, uh, what? What's going on? Okay. That's okay. Like, the number one thing you're not supposed to do is approach the cops like that. Right.

They would tell any officer not to do that too. That's how you get yourself fucking killed. Correct. So he's very confused and he wants to know. So I'm not buying that this guy is with any agency at this point. Well, let's, let's find out because absolutely not. cop wants to know like who is this guy who are you like that man uh lands with who ha ha ha ha shoot him i don't know who he's with but some agency he sits and informant to his is

overdosing hey joe 3 850 west college hey who are you Oh, I'm lit. Nice to meet you. Like, yeah, but who are you with? And the guy totally ignores that question. Totally did. Walk to the other way. Now he's banging on the door. If this isn't his house, it's not.

And, uh, I'm going to be honest with it. The people that he's banging on the door are not excited to see him. What's the what? Get the hell out of here, dude. Oh, I thought he was OD. Nobody OD. Dude. Are you serious?

You just stole our money. You just stole it. You just stole it. Why don't you call me? He stole our money for our house. We have him on video. He is impersonating a cop or he's pretending to be a cop. We have him on video on the computer.

Is that why you're flying? He stole our money out of our house. Hey, Joey, you have surveillance? That accent. Dude, hit the curb music. That freaking Wisconsin accent right there. Holy shit. Wow.

He stole our money. This man stole our money. and now he's back here and he just stole our money. Nobody over OD. Did you bring our money back? Yes. So this is a weird thing going on right now. And the police are very confused. If I'm this cop, I am just going to watch this guy hang himself.

Well, that's what he does. He kind of hangs back and watches how this plays out. I'm surprised he didn't get more involved. We just went to go meet you for drinks at the bar. And you weren't there. You called us. We have, we have proof. We can talk to you about that.

We've got more spots on the way. What did we do wrong? Who is this guy to you? He's our friend, supposedly. Oh. Supposedly our friend. Dude, and he just said me just saying he's serious. And I just thought.

Brazil, you come here every day. You've met my son. So what's going on? What are you talking about? You stole our money from our house. We'll talk about it. If I'm Lance, I'm going, yeah, we're not friends anymore. You're right, because you're not helping me cover.

You're right. You see the cops. back there can we talk about the OD thing please holy shit you guys are the worst improv troop i've ever come across who's idea who's OD in here no one fuck yes and yes and so apparently wow this is this is amazing i there's nothing i love more than watching a liar get just like oh i know he doesn't know what to do he stole our money he stalled it we have the video we're supposed to beat up we went to the bar this guy told them to go meet him in a bar and then robbed their house we do they went back there with the cops oh

this is great you're on they called and said there was an OD you just stole my we were supposed to meet you and your wife out for drinks are you a cop no I'm not a cop so what are you doing my room I can show you my room oh let's show him the room can you guys see my room you guys who's this guy you come over here yeah you come over here okay so now we got another officer there he's gonna talk to uh what you tried to do lance i i mean i don't know if you saw the other cop there but a good move would have like yeah go look at the room and then run the fuck out there no too bad there's another

top fail me now all right so now we're going to find out what actually was going on with this he came he helped him install a safe yesterday minnie it is too cold for that shirt it's also too for that shirt i mean i understand it's harder to lose weight when you get older but don't be so proud dude that's a wisconsin nine he came he helped him install a safe yesterday and to put his cash in and it was it's bolted to our like a nightstand and he came in here and when we pulled up his wife was in the car and he came running like not running we were in the car we took a picture on snapchat and then he came out of the house and they took off and then we came in and we came in And he said on his way out, got it, got it to him.

We came in here and our room is all tossed and that just tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Just right now. We were going to call. We were deciding if we were going to call you because he said he was going to be in the money back. So this is crazy right here. They just got robbed by this guy.

He just broke into the room. The guy helps him install a safe and then comes back to take the money out of the safe. According to these two, you know, we don't, we don't know what the real story is. We're hearing a lot of different stories. There's a lot of people telling stories. here yeah but i'm going to go with i'm going to lean into the person who's not pretending to be a cop well he did say he wasn't a cop so now the question is who do you work for yeah i don't know okay who do you work for he shows his badge special activities division special activities division

what company is that he works for sad yeah what company like what are we doing you man I don't know your buddy assisted me so hey we're good um yeah that was false she's fucking high to her mind right now so so he's got an earpiece in and he's talking back to whoever he's talking to all officials and he's trying to like right yeah yeah yeah i'm actually working with this officer i think we got everything situated here like he's panicking he doesn't know what to do to keep this story going obviously but i like that he asks them like who do you work for what company just nothing just silence work over at macy's they're way too patient with them so then he asked the guy for id and he goes yeah and he hands him his wallet and the wall just has two more badges

in it so he's just like no no no i need something that tells me your identity so he's like oh yeah i don't have that so then he starts asking like what's your name and he gives him a name and then he's asking for more details what's a middle initial for you there's no okay what's your day of birth uh there's none i need your day to birth why because i I need to identify who you are. You're just flashing a badge around here, man, not giving me anything other than that. I'm flushing a badge.

You're going and fucking chasing this guy around. That's who my officer was chasing after. This guy is... Give me your date of birth. This guy sells pounds of metal. Give me your date of birth. Data birth or you go to jail right now? Go to jail.

Give me your date of birth, dude. 12, 18. What year? 84. Go to jail? Oh, yeah. I actually do remember when I was born now that you mentioned it. I think that he says, I don't have one.

It was a cold night. What's your day to birth? I don't have one of those. It's like when I'm at the store and they're like, what's your email address? What's your phone? I'm like, I don't have that stuff. I don't know. You're right.

He's got to be panicking internally with trying to play it cool because he's just hoping that if he plays it cool enough. Yeah. These cops are going to just like fall into whatever fucking lie that he's trying to pull. Correct. He's just like, I just got to keep acting confident. And eventually they'll believe me. Wherever you go, you got to act. Like, it's the place.

to be. Isn't this great? Come on, Brad. You know that they sell meth? Yeah, I know. He's freaking, this is his buddy they just stole money from. Now he's trying to blow him in for being a meth dealer. Good friend. He finally explains who he works for. What company do you work for?

Patriot Defense. Patriot Defense. Okay. Patriot Defense Group is a private company that supports U.S. Special Forces and the CIA. Is there a reason that you finally told me now after we've been talking for five minutes they're in my earling okay but i'm in front of you oh d bro like you know i rushed over here like he's odee before we understand how weird this looks so this guy's just like listen i don't have time to talk to you officer i'm talking

to uh you know obviously patriot defense a way more important thing that i'm doing over here so here's the deal officer i was told this guy was odine i'm the good guy here yeah i came here to save a life i just came here to save a life and how about we just call in a night seems like nothing Oh, right? This is great. Get back to what we were doing. This guy is unbelievable. I kind of am impressed by like this level of. Don't be too impressed. It doesn't work out well for himself. Well, I assume. The couple who were robbed invites the police officer and yeah, come take a look at our room. See what just happened to us here. I just want to prep. I'm not here for any drug. If there is in general. No, I don't care what's inside your house. I like that this guy's just like, oh, there's definitely drugs in this house. I'm not going to bust you guys. You just want to show me what happened. So you see, this is the safe that it was in. That's what he broke open. So you see how there's just shit thrown everywhere? Yeah.

Not only did he come in and steal the money out of the safe, he also just threw shit around for some reason. I want to know where the wife is. They said the wife was sitting in the car. Right. And now the wife is completely out of the picture. The wife is out of the picture. Because the wife is friends with this other guy who's in the house,

his wife. Okay. So here's what I think's going on. He was speeding back. there because his wife didn't realize that he was in there stealing from them he probably told her some story like he was picking something up for them that they forgot sure probably because he's a criminal and he's a liar yes it seems like so he's got to give some story to his wife why he's in the house so then they're

late for this dinner he knew they weren't gonna be there his wife is going getting the phone calls from them this dude just robbed us they came home early caught them in the fucking act he probably blew out of there dropped his wife I said no go straighten it all out honey it's gonna be fine and speeds his ass back there to possibly return what he stole? Maybe. Either way, the cop was behind him. It's a weird place to bring the police with you to.

The place you just robbed, I would have pulled into any other house if I were him. Any other house. He could have gone anywhere else. You could have pulled over to the side of the road and apologized for speeding and say, I worked for Patriot Defense. Instead, he brought. I had a long day. Right, right, right.

It's just, write me a ticket. Instead, he brought the police and they're like, yeah, we want to file a report on this guy. He robbed us. So now they're writing up a report And it turns out this guy's real name is Brazil That's what they call him Seems like he's kind of a bad dude He's put a gun in my head before

Okay Like because he thought it was whispering to talk to his wife This guy's put a gun to this guy's head This is their buddy Because he's not he's whispering something to his wife He's a real fucking problem This guy He's got all these badges he carries around

Probably You guys are still going to meet him for dinner though Yeah everyone involved in this i know it's not great this is this is the first time i'm getting the real sketch vibes out of them yeah he pulled a gun on me that one time and we're still hanging out yeah uh it's probably a bunch of drug addicts these people live in very different circles than i yeah yes correct well it is finally arrest time Hey, I told you my last man.

You fucking serious? Yeah. Hey, they're putting me a handcuffs right now. We don't. Turn around on you. He's out of this here. Like, all right, you're done without this. Who is this?

You're done on your phone call, funny. It's over. That's enough. So he gets arrested. He's just like, well, I don't know what's going on here. What's happening? I'm part of the Patriot Defense. What's going on?

Why would you do this to me? So this is the last clip here on the charges. Tonell's badge was a CIA special activities division replica he was transported to the greenfield police department for processing where he punched a brick wall breaking his hand he was treated at a local hospital and booked into the Milwaukee county jail for a multitude of felony charges including possession of a firearm and body armor by a convicted felon, burglary and impersonating an officer. Tunel's bond was set at $7,500 which he posted. after three months of being in custody. He didn't have a friend. He didn't have 750 bucks for three months. Yeah, I know, right? Wow.

That's not great. He broke his hand when he got to the police station. He was so upset. He seems like he's a problem. I thought I had friends. He seems like he's definitely a problem. Well, one less weirdo in the streets of him. I don't know how he thought he'd just give away, give out a fake name and his fake badges and get away with that.

Not smart. That was one of the wilder stories. I've seen because usually we see people making up every excuse in the book freaking out. He stayed very cool and collected and really thought he was in a gaslight his fucking way out of that. He really did, but he brought them to the exact wrong house. People who know this guy were just robbed. But anyway, that's a lot of fun.

I bet we got some voicemails coming in. We certainly do. They're from, uh, the creep off voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse. We'd like to wish a special congratulations to Beyonce for Country Album of the Year. We relate to her so much. Just like her, we should also probably be in jail. See you in Syracuse.

I didn't even look at the Grambs. She really went country album of the Year? Sure did. Jesus Christ, so stupid. The Craves are so stupid. The worst things in the world. They're so dumb. Here's a fun one for us, Carl.

Hey, this goes back to your present. potential pardon episode. I just want to point something out. Brian Johnson says a creep is someone that you don't want to sit next to at a party. So I just want to point this out. Carl would rather sit next to Peter Yarrow at a party than Eddie Gallagher. I don't know about you. I'd rather sit next to Eddie Gallagher.

That dude's got great fucking stories. Love the show. See you. Great points, sir. Great points. Here we go. Someone voted for you. Carl, what the fuck?

I normally don't vote for you, but I did vote for you this previous time for that guy who tortured the other, that homeless guy. Dental torture just, ugh. But what the hell was this newest guy you just brought in? The coolest fucking hockey player ever? That was hilarious. Yeah. Yep, nobody likes it. Sorry, I hit the wrong thing there, kids.

Here we go. From our friend, the podcast prophet. Podcast Private here, Holy Spirit, speaking through me, maybe a couple of white claws. I'm going to condense my previous voicemails. One, Vinny, you're a cheater. You nominated two people. What happened, man? Like, you're going to lose.

I'm voting for you, of course, because fuck Vinny, but I'm, you know, disappointed in you. Thirdly, you both missed the fucking boat, regardless to how you want to look at a stadium, arena, whatever. Tanya Harding, or at least the guy that, you know, hit Nancy Garrier. Anyways, thank you, but you, bye. Galooly. That would have been good. It would have been good. Yep.

I'm having nothing but trouble over here today, folks. I can see that. Okay, here's a fun one. Now, listen, buddy. I want to play this, but it's way too long. Never mind. Here's a joke someone left us. Okay.

I was going to call, make a joke about, you know, seeing some sex. see horse nostrils. But then I got to the part where Denny knows what cums smelled like. Vinny is a cum smeller. Vinny is a cum smeller. Stop making fun of me. Voting for Carl. You're a cumsmeller? I made the joke. It says it smells like bleach and it's all I said was I made a joke that a room smelled like bleach. I'm not a cumsmeller. You're a cum smeller. You're a gross cumsmeller. You're a gross cubs muller.

Busted. All right. You got one. one you got any i don't but i do have dang lizard coming in with two euros can you blame the x-man with all that italian hate they drive me crazy too i'm fine with it dominic sanchise five bucks says from wisco that sounds just as foreign to me only person i know with any amount of consistent accent is my grandma she's also actually a wisconsin 10 his grandma's a wisconsin 10 Wow. Good for you, Dominic. That's pretty cool.

Yeah, that accent is. I know that people make fun of obviously our accent. I hear Pittsburgh getting called out quite a bit, but that is the most unattractive. Midwestern, northern Midwestern accent. It's the most unattractive accent I've ever heard in my life. It's brutal. No wonder the rest of the world hates us. Thanks, Wisconsin.

All right. I think it's time for Scum Parade. Do it. The scum parade, these are my peeps. The scum parade is nothing for creeps. The scum parade. I'm parolandit. Show.

That's the OG, baby. It is. The original. I love to hear it. Now, Carl, let's start off in India, today, shall we? Yes. Okay.

What is the point of India? All right, read the story. This story's bonkers. This gentleman by the name of Pruthabirajah Sahu is the prime accused here, and him and his accomplices lured five businessmen, won a finance company agent from New Delhi into, in the guise of having a business deal. They kidnapped them, took them to a secluded. took them to a secluded location and we're trying to hold them for ransom.

Now, how do you kidnap five people like that? Well, Carl, when they had them there, they had weapons, but they used one particular really fucked up weapon to psychologically torture these people while they were waiting to get paid. Poisonous snakes. Oh, my God. I've been saying this for a long time. It's time to ban snakes.

Yes. I think we need to ban snakes once for all. There's no, whatever. Keep them outside. You shouldn't be having them as pets. People would be these snake dealers. You ever see these videos of these reptile conventions? Oh, yeah.

They keep these goddamn poisonous snakes in Tupperware, Carl. Oh, they love it, too. There should be a background check. You should need to have a permit before you can get a snake. So they taunted these people with the live snakes and escalated when the kidnappers relocated their hostages deep into the jungle, further increasing their torment. But in a dramatic turn of events on the morning of jail,

January 26th, one of them managed a daring escape. He got out and made his way to a police office and told everybody where they were. The cops went there and they were able to arrest the one guy I told you about Sahu. He was apprehended the scene, but now they're trying to track down the rest of the guys that were holding them there. But Jesus, could you imagine being kidnapped and then having someone just taunt you with poison snakes? There's Cobra Commander. Thank you very much DeWired Christian for reminding me of that. Thank you.

No, I honestly, I would be cool if the way the story ends is they get to wear them as boots after this is all said and done. That would be, that's the one good use of snakes. I would like, we have this thing in this country where we don't believe in cruel and unusual punishment. Well, we believe in it. We're just not allowed. Well, we believe it exists. We're just not allowed to do it by law. And since all we're doing these days is just scrapping the rules, I say, Poison this.

snake executions. I love it. Televised. Do you ever see the jackass movie where they tricked Bamargera? They got a giant defanged king cobra, like a massive king cobra. And they lock him in the back thing. The fear on his fucking face was so real. That's the most terrified thing I can imagine. Could you imagine if that was a deterrent to crime? Wheel of consequence. Well, since I get to pick. No, no, no. Cobra execution. There's two cobras. One of them's defanged. The other one isn't. And good luck.

I'll let you pick. I'll let you pick which one you get in there with. So, uh, let's go to January 31st just a few days ago. Carl, could you show my picture number three? Oh, I would love to do that for you, buddy. I introduce it to this lovely father and son. Okay. Now, uh, this is Jean Fallon. He's 63. And that's his 30-year-old son,

Jared. He's a city planner. And we don't think he's good at planning because the son is great at he's a shitty planner. No. Oh, city planner. City planner. Okay. You heard me wrong there. Now, I'll tell you who's shitty is old Jean there. Gene got locked out of his Gmail account. Can you believe it? Oh no. That's what he got locked out of his Gmail. So he had to call his son for help with it. But it turns out the reason, uh, he was locked off of it was because, uh, The account had been flagged by Google after the firm's monitoring system detected that it had been used to upload illicit images of children to Google Photos. Holy shit. This is the dumbest pet of file.

Yep. The world has ever seen. He is using Gmail and Google Photos to store and retrieve. Don't forget Google Drive. Does he know that Google are the biggest tangle tales in the history of the world? No, it turns out his son is. well yeah that too so the kid gets in there and he's looking at this and he sees all of this child pornography on his father's phone and uh i'm going to give jared a uh good way to go because he

turned in his dad pretty quick oh good a good jared for once yeah the resulting investigation which included subpoenas a search warrant and cybertips from the national center for missing exploited children resulted in the arrest of jean phone for possession of child pornography Yeah, on the phone. There was a word in this article describing that I've never seen before. Which one? Or a phrase. I never want to see this again.

Child erotica. Ugh. Ugh. Those words don't blot together. They do not. Ugh. So each of the 22nd degree felony charges faces that this man faces carries a maximum of 15-year prison terms. Here's my question for you.

He's pretty much toast. If you're this guy. Yeah. Do you start getting your assholes? already now before you start your prison sentence like do you just like every night try to stretch it out and get it get it ready for what's going to happen to you me no okay because i don't even know the terror must be going through this guy's head i've never thought about it but man he's gonna have to deal with the rest of his life did you fucking imagine hey son your dad was like help

me with this hey so can you open up my phone and don't tell your mom don't how many times i've heard that lot growing up don't tell your mother like okay i never heard don't tell the police wait what am i going to see here dad what do you mean don't tell the police that's not good do you remember when we used to play catch cardiff revealed says the wired christian allegedly allegedly allegedly allegedly i don't know if we could be friends with cardiff anymore now that our countries are at war that's true mexico figured it out they settled it did they yeah oh they got rid of They got rid of their 25% tariff. They just said, oh, we'll stop fentanyl coming into your country.

And Trump's like, all, cool. So Canada's got to figure it out. How is Mexico planning on doing that? Great question. Okay. I don't know if I buy it, but whatever. All right. It was enough.

Want to go to Pueblo, Colorado, Carl? Sure. I was going to pay. Hold up my next picture, picture number four. Okay. This gentleman's name is Phoenix Monsiev likes. He's 20 years old. And he was arrested by detectives in charge with three counts of

sexual exploitation of a child and also three counts of sexual assault on a child and animal cruelty. The charges follow a year-long investigation by detectives with PCSU's internet crimes against children unit based on a cyber tip that indicated child sexual abuse

material was linked to this guy. We'll get into that, but look at this guy's fucking hair. Did he lose a bet to Bob Levy about the bills winning or something? Who would have hair like that on purpose? It's the worst. Is that a wig? Maybe it's a wig. No, I don't want you to keep your wig on during the much shots probably not good point now uh when he was being questioned obviously they

started looking through his devices and like hey uh what are these videos of you fucking dogs too yeah what's this all about yeah and he's like yeah i like to put my dick in pretty much anything by the way there is an answer for that when the police find things on your phone like videos and photos of you having sex with children and animals AI oh i was right i've been getting really good at AI lately i've been planning up with all the different tools combined different apps it's great this was jasper made this right jasper but this fucking idiot this attorney is not going to be happy with him that's all i'm gonna say like you've given this guy nothing to work with here it's just like all right we found this evidence is this year

is this you are you doing this up yep that's me i'm doing it all right cool and there's also chat logs and conversations of him with other people talking about having sex with minors and what he did do is how he assaulted them are there people who are doing heinous crimes like this who aren't writing about it on phones and in messages are they are the people getting away with this shit who are smarter just every person who does this feel in need are they compelled to tell their friends about it these fucking petos they they think there's sarah jessica parker and sex in the city just writing diaries do do do today i met a guy on the subway i met a guy by the playground and i fell in love they just write the shit out these fucking maniacs their little

romance novels bring out the cobras all right yes and we found it used for cobras I like it. Yeah. What's the name of this episode? Cobra! I like it. Would you rather be in a prison where everyone knows you're a pedophile and the worst person on earth and they're going to ass rape you for the rest of your life?

Or one with cobras? I don't know. Suicide. Suicide by Cobra. So, dear God. Cobras, I don't know. Yeah, probably cobras. Probably.

Cobras. It's going to be rough either way. I'm thinking about it, Cobras. Yeah. It's an awful way to go. You can't talk your way out of it with Cobras. Oh, yeah, I don't know. But we'll call it the Ricky Tiki Taffy consequence.

All right. He's scheduled to appear in court on January 30th, so he had his first courtroom appearance. I don't have any updates on it, though. All right. So last story, Carl, let's pull up my last picture of this lovely family. Aren't they beautiful? Hotis. This is Allegheny PA.

And text show how these two sisters tortured a three-year-old baby. I made her nosebleed one message, responded, good, I'm going to beat her, came from the other sister. Sounds like this is a very naughty little girl. Those were just two of hundreds of text messages between Alexis Herrera and her sister Laura Ramirez in early 2020, months leading up to the arrest for criminal homicide. For more than two hours on Friday afternoon, they're in court right now. They were just reading the texts for two hours between these. two fucking monsters uh again you guys call each other to do something other than put it in writing they the shit that they said um is so fucking heinous they talked about how they were stuffing things

in this child's mouth not just anything's the dirty pee diapers yeah yeah so the the little girl would pee on her clothes or something they'd shove it in her mouth afterwards. Yeah. Pretty awful stuff. Yeah. Bella's father, he's pictured, Jose Salazar Ortiz, was also charged with criminal homicide. After this baby, they took her to the hospital, she died on June 9, 2020 after becoming unresponsive at the family's house. Her body was covered in bruises and scabs. She was born out of the extramarital affair. Her father was severely malnourished. Her death was ruled a homicide. Okay, so what happened was these two are a couple, then you have the sister.

Yeah. And he goes and cheats, and then the mistress has a baby. And so now this is the stepdaughter living in the house, and the mom hates the stepdaughter because it represents her husband cheating on her. Now, what you're supposed to do, Penny, there is a solution to this. You kill the pregnant mistress. You want to get rid of that little girl. You want to get rid of all the problems.

That does it right there. but to allow that girl to be born and then torture her for a very short three years of her life is not the way to play it it's actually evil it's very evil i got evil that's the problem with women they want to play this long game of torture yes they're also very dumb not all women these two are not all i'm just just a lot of them fucking pumpkin head over here yeah i mean they thought they were going to torture this kid for the rest of the kid's life and then the baby just died and giggle about it and brag about it and then they're just like oh shit i guess we should have fed it too so when the cops started questioning her about this about the bruises and stuff

she says i know you're probably not going to believe me she bruises very easily i'm being a hundred percent honest i can take a polygraph i love what people say i'm being honest you're not going to sound crazy about being honest it's like yeah yeah what happened oh oh the baby bruise easily when you slap her around and beat her she's also very clumsy she falls down a lot yeah a very bad balance this one there's a a lot there's a lot of horrific things they talk about of the torture and shit they did to this little girl don't if you want to get into it i don't all right i don't it's pretty bad but i just want to make sure everybody knows that these three are absolute human garbage and they're all going to

prison for uh ever yeah so there's that there's that there's that so at least there's that happy days i lost half of my notes somehow in saving this file oh is that what happened to you yeah i'm struggling today all right well you did a good job i didn't even notice thank you unless you missed lost the notes on your creep today because that would make a lot of sense no my creep is the worst person that we talked about today okay she was a cop having i'm sorry i'm sorry i brought a boyfriend around i'm sorry she was introducing him as a cop i'm sorry i murdered it off and fuck hit him in the fucking ground under her house both for carl at the creepoff dot com and also check out we'll be live on point dabble point today at four o'clock yeah tune in for that and don't forget

if you're going to get your hackamania tickets use promo code creep karl it's nice to be important it's more important to be nice go gear going great.