The Creep Off - Episode 252: You Down With O.D.D?
Episode Date: March 3, 2025Today, Karl is on vacation, and Vinnie has accepted a challenge from Once Over with Cayley's Lucy Tightbox! Today's category: creeps who inspired movies!We’ll also break down some wild poli...ce footage in our very first Paulino’s Cop Stream, featuring a man who managed to turn his interaction with the police—from victim to suspect—into multiple felonies, thanks to his "Defiance Disorder."This week’s Scum Parade features some truly horrifying stories: Tearful Aussie couple recall horror of sitting next to a dead passenger on a long-haul flight to Venice | Daily Mail OnlineGirlfriend beat boyfriend to death, covered his face with makeup to hide bruisesAmerican student, 18, 'who hurled her newborn baby from Paris hotel room to its death' is identified as Mia McQuillin from Oregon | Daily Mail OnlineMan Arrested for Child Sex Crimes, After Initially Claiming he was Assaulted by Juvenile - Fox21OnlineThe score is currently Vinnie 1 - Karl 1 – Guest 2 visit thecreepoff.com to vote and decide this week’s winnerWant more of the madness? Support the show on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to snag exclusive merch and get an extra bonus episode every week!Don’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108You can follow our Results girl Danni on Instagram @Danni_Desolation
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Ola Creepos. I don't know if you know, but there's going to be one hell of a live show at Hackamania 2 in downtown Los Vegas.
That's right. It's happening May 9 through 11th. This will be the third ever live creepoff show.
And man, I got to tell you, I'm already working on. I'm excited for the content we're going to do.
Stuff we couldn't normally put on YouTube, we'll be able to do for you the live crowd.
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I think that seems like a pretty good deal.
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Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids.
Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups.
You might want to walk away now if you ain't any of these type of things.
I'm going to give the people what they want.
Sensation, horror, shock.
I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down.
Cuckoo, coo, coo.
Excelsior, true believers.
Disgusting, vomiting, deusing thing.
Ola creepos, welcome to another episode of your favorite true crime podcast,
the show about creeps by creeps for you creeps.
I'm your host, my name is Vinny, and I got great news, everybody.
Today we have replaced the teeth with the tits from WATP,
from Once Over with Kaylee, joining me today for the episode.
It is Lucy Tightbox.
Well, hello, and thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to be a creep today.
you're a creep every day Lucy I know you don't forget to nothing I admit to nothing well you don't have to
admit it they're writing on bathroom walls Lucy type boxes with us all day today folks and I got to tell you this is a
main exciting episode you challenged me you picked the category I sure did you want to tell everybody what
we're doing we are going to be talking about creeps that inspired movies today did you come up with
that because the Oscars were yesterday of course absolutely I am very thoughtful and always think about
things in ways like that. No, absolutely not. I had no idea that that was going to be so wonderfully
coincidental. I just love movies. I love movies. I talk about movies all the time on once over with
Kaylee. And I was like, there are so many disgusting people that movies have been based on. Why will
we not talk about those creeps? There was that George W. Bush movie. Yeah, it's true.
There was a Nixon movie. So what about Ed Gein? There's all sorts of movies out there that are
about fucked up people. I don't know why I'm taking shots at
presidents today. It's fucking weird. Weird start. Because the Oscars. Must be. Must be. I'm happy to be here with you. I'm excited to get into a competition. But last week, Carl and I had a competition. And for those of you don't know, and this is your first time tuning in, the show is a competition. Usually my co-host, Carl and I will be going back and forth about a creep in a given category. And then you folks would go to the creepoff.com and decide whose creep was worse. Who was brought to creepier creep? And there's a point system involved. Currently, the score is one to nothing.
I'm winning.
But every week, we got to find out who won last week.
So I want to introduce the, I can't believe it.
I am surrounded by beautiful women today.
Dude, why can't Carl go on vacation all the time?
Here she is.
Danny, Danny, read in results, oh, dandy.
Please won't you post that fanny all over the Patreon.
Danny, Danny, that body's so uncanny.
Boy, smooth like lamb and shandy.
Oh, yeah, she's my creep girl.
Ola, Creepos.
Danny, I almost forgot.
You sent me the most adorable video last week, didn't you?
I did.
You got to see this.
Little Lady Kay said her first words.
At three months old.
At three months old.
Do you believe it?
Do you want to see this?
You want to see a baby video, Lucy?
Oh, desperately.
Okay.
This is definitely worth it.
This is Little Lady Kay.
Hold on.
I got to do this the correct.
way. And I wish I was ready. I forgot. But it's worth it. Here we go.
Three months old. I feel like it was just yesterday.
Oh, God. While visiting.
Why is this being so loud and automatically played?
Here we go. First words.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. You did it.
That's right. First words were, uh-oh.
that's pretty good
she can say mama too now
aw adorable
how fast they grow up
now
your baby's talking
I want you to start talking
I want to find out who won last week's game
oh man okay
well last week's
was creepiest airline employee
super close one
so 54% of the vote
went to Carl
here to even accept it.
I will accept on his behalf.
I'll denounce it.
Boo!
You will not.
I absolutely will.
He had Bush Hinton also, but again, Carl's not even here, so then you just take it.
Good idea.
Good idea.
I'm not going to do that.
I guess that means the score is tied 1-0, 1-1, and round number 30.
We've been doing 30 rounds of this.
shit unreal so uh thanks danny make sure you follow danny on instagram at danny desolation and uh please take
care of that mouthy baby we'll do excellent all right lucy i don't know why i feel so rushed
today but we got a lot to get to we got cop cams coming up we got a scum parade but first we
have a competition and because you're a guest i'm let you decide if you like to go first or
second what do you think oh that's a great question you know what i think i think i'm going to let you go
First. God damn it. I know. You're welcome. That's fine. That's that's just fine by me. Usually the winner does go first, but I did lose last week. So I'm going to introduce you to my creep today. And I'm going to tell you out of the gate, my creep did not inspire a movie. He inspired four movies, folks. He may be actually responsible for the true crime genre and film. My creep terrorized turn of the century Germany for almost 20 years. And as one of the best nicknames in true.
crime. My creep today, ladies and gentlemen, it is Peter Curtin, the vampire of
Dusseldorf. Oh boy. Yeah, he's a very, very handsome guy who had a really, really rough
childhood, Lucy. You see, he was the oldest of 13 kids and his dad was an alcoholic sadist
who took turns raping the kids and their mother. They lived in a one-bedroom apartment,
15 people, and basically the slums. And his dad would
drink rape people and that was his childhood it's not great so as you can imagine you grow up
kind of angry a little a little i'll tell you about one of the first crimes he committed this is a
big one he uh when he was nine him and two of his school friends got on a little rowboat went
out to the middle of this lake that was near their town and uh for some reason peter just didn't
like one of them so he pushes them off the boat that kid couldn't swim so he started he's treading water
kids tread in water dying the other kid jumps in to save him and when he grabs the other boy and comes back towards the boat to try to get help to get in peter grabs them both by the head and holds them under water till the bubble stop and then what happened oh he told everybody they fell off the boat and drowned and nothing happened to him he went on with his fucking life he drowned two of his schoolmates at fucking nine years old how old nine oh my god nine years nine years old double murder
Talk about a fucking body count.
So as you can imagine now,
he doesn't have a lot of friends anymore.
Drowning him all.
He meets a new friend inside of the apartment building
that they lived with his family.
It was the local dog catcher.
And this guy and Peter
formed what I would call an unhealthy relationship.
And the only reason I would say that is because
when Peter is about 12 years old,
this guy introduced him to a real fun new pastime.
Beastiality.
You see,
though the dog catcher used to catch the dogs and fuck them
and then torture the dogs and laugh his ass off.
And Peter became his little protege at helper.
There wasn't enough humans in the one-bedroom apartment had to turn to animals.
Listen, your dad's staking his claim on all your sisters.
Tushay, tushay.
I don't know what to say, but they're just fucking dogs together,
him and the local dog catcher.
His dad's the local town drunk, his best friend.
a dog rapist.
So you can imagine
puberty was weird
for this guy?
Uh-huh.
I would think so.
Yeah.
Puberty was a little weird.
As he matured sexually,
his tastes matured a little bit.
He moved on from dogs,
found out he was really,
the sheeps and goats.
Oh, I was so close.
And goats.
And according to a couple articles,
they refer to other farmyard animals.
So use your imagination.
Uh-huh.
But he eventually grew out of that
because he couldn't get off anymore.
Like he fucked him,
he fucked so many animals.
He just couldn't fucking shoot,
which is a fucking problem.
He desensitized himself and,
uh,
fucked up for a teenager.
Yeah.
So he had to figure out what he can do,
you know,
and that's like the fear for these people who get over sexed is eventually like,
boobs don't turn them on,
butts don't turn them on.
It turns into something that's completely not sexual.
Um,
this guy,
what do you would do?
is he would start fucking the animals, right?
You know, same old, same old.
But then he added in a new tank,
which was he would start stabbing them while he was fucking them.
And that worked.
You got to make another hole.
Yeah, you got to make another hole.
Might be the name of this episode.
Dirty deeds done with sheep.
I like that one, Dr. Scotty Jones, solid.
So here's the problem.
He was also just a degenerate criminal as a kid.
he's stealing he's breaking into houses he's also a firebug he's burning stuff down so eventually
he gets arrested and he gets sent to prison and when he's in prison he's living in deplorable conditions
and he's constantly getting into fights and they would throw him into solitary confinement
weird fact about solitary confinement in this dude he loved it he would go in there by himself
and he would just imagine the most sadistic fucked up sex acts he'd come up with and he
He's just shooting loads all over the wall of the jail.
He would get in more trouble just to go back to solitary.
I mean, that sounds like a very interesting wallpaper.
It's one way to decorate yourself.
A lot of guys just put pinup models on the wall.
He sticks him to the wall.
Slaps him right on there.
So he gets out of jail in 1904, and he's forced to join the German army.
Now, he's in the German army, but his service was.
short-lived because what he did was he deserted
and then because he hated the army so
much he started setting fires to shit
around their camps
just so he could watch them come out and try to put them out
he was a fucked up dude
he eventually was arrested for arson and
desertion and sentenced to his
third imprisonment
he doesn't get out until 1913
and that's when shit gets real folks
what we talked about
so far
nothing
nothing
he gets out of jail
The first thing he decides to do is become a sadistic pervert.
He sees a nine-year-old girl and he finds her quite attractive and her family was staying across from his local tavern.
So he waited until the middle of the night and he broke in and starts strangling this little girl.
And then he slices her throat.
Now, he didn't get to rape her because when he slit, he wanted to.
He wanted to slice his throat and then rape her.
But when he slit her throat, he fucking blew a load in his pants.
what a poor guy
this motherfucker was like
this is amazing
and because he's such a sick
fuck he went and hung out at that bar
all day the next day to listen to people
talk about what happened to the nine year old girl
across the street
fucking unreal
now he then does this again
this time it's a 17 year old girl
similar fashion but he gets arrested
about a month later not for either
of the murders but because he got caught
breaking into somebody's
house again. So he goes to jail. Now he's in jail till 1921. And he decides, you know what,
I'm going to try to live a normal life. And he meets a former prostitute who also went to jail for
murdering her ex-husband. And she opened up a candy shop and he married her. And her name was
Augusti. Now, he starts working a normal job. He's working the same job as dad did as a molder.
He's doing this for four years, keeping his relatively clean. But these fucking weirdos,
they can't do that Kaylee they can't fucking do it Lucy so after this time he's out everything's good
he just starts seeing local women in the neighborhood and he's like you know what I'm trying to
live in normal life I'm not going to slit any of these women's throats I'm just going to rape them
well it sounds like a beautiful romance story in that case they got the candy shop everything's
going swell and he's just like skipping down the street going it's rape time yeah and he just
start straight up regular raping women, which, you know, is an improvement from stabbing them
to get off. Yeah, I would say so. But this time he gets caught again and set back to jail.
1921 until he's released. So he's such a problem, this guy. He loses no time. 1929 this time he's
released. I'm sorry. And he starts just going on a kill spree. He's raping, slicing throats. And he came up
with a weapon that he really likes.
And this is where shit gets really
fucking gross. Sorry, everybody.
What he gets into is a,
he gets into stabbing people with
scissors, right?
So the reason he liked to stab people
with scissors is because it would make like a spurt
of blood. So he would grab a woman,
drag her into the woods, stab her
in the neck with a pair of scissors. And then
what he would do is
start drinking their blood from the wound.
Right? And
he did this until he just, as
his own words, until I would throw up.
I mean, he was used to splurting on the walls of his jail cells.
Now he's got to have the splurting from the neck.
It sounds like a normal transgression to me.
He loves it.
So what he does is he'll bury the body.
Sometimes he just sets the bodies on fire.
Now, then he's just like, you know what?
I don't need to deal with all these bodies all the time.
You know what I'm going to start doing?
He just starts going to really crowded streets, stabbing people.
Just coming up behind him and fucking stabbing people in the back
and walking away like nothing happened.
Balsy.
Fucking a ballsy.
And people are terrified.
They're finding these bodies drained of blood with neck fucking punctures.
All the papers are going,
there's a vampire on the loose.
And people are freaking the fuck out.
He's just having the time of his goddamn life,
popping fucking candies from his wife's shop and going out
and stabbing people all fucking day.
So he would even show up,
after somebody was stabbed and act like a concerned citizen just to talk to the cops all sheep us oh no what's happened here oh did so oh no this is crazy so he also at one point he murdered this one woman and he was like you know what i ought to do is just tie her up to this tree like real public like so everybody could see it then i'll settle on fire that'd be fun and then he decided not to do it instead uh he ended up just burying her and then sending the cops a map to her body like some btk
shit. Now, his last victim was a five-year-old girl who he stabbed more than 30 times before
throwing her body under a bunch of garbage in an alley. Then on May 14th, 1930, he kind of fell for
this broad. He saw her and he's like, oh, I like her. I don't want to murder her. I think I just want
to have an affair. I'm not even going to rape this one. And he tries to like, he goes up to her and
starts hitting on her. It's like, hey, baby, let me help you find a place. You're new to town. Let me
show you what's going on and he starts taking around and uh he propositions her and she says no
fucking way that's when he drags her into the woods and starts to rape her but he goes ah fuck
i don't want to rape this one he goes ah just get out of here just fucking get out of here
and uh she doesn't go to the police which is astounding yeah what did she do she wrote a letter to
a friend explaining what happened and how it freaked her out but she mailed it to the wrong
address. Oh, no. So somebody opens up this letter. It's like, what the fuck and gives it to the
cops? They track her down and get a description of Peter Curtin. So they start canvassing
looking for him and people are saying, oh, it might be that house. So they go and interview his wife.
And they go, hey, is your husband acting? He's like, no, he has the candy. He disappears.
Sure, he comes home with bloodstains, but you know, he's a hard worker. Bloodstains and come all over
his pants. He's just a hard worker. He comes home that night. She tells him what happened. He goes,
all right listen here's the deal babe uh yeah i'm uh the vampire i've been uh murdering and raping since
i was a child uh i really like your candy so you're cool well you're not you're not in trouble
but here's the deal they're on to me they're going to catch me so here's what we're going to do
i want you to turn me in tomorrow and get the reward money and live like a queen the rest of your
life i don't give a fuck anymore that's what they do goes quietly and uh he was sentenced to
death pretty quickly but before he was sentenced to death he confessed to
79 murders and crimes with astonishing detail,
according to psychologists at the time.
They said that he had a nearly photogenic graphic memory,
and his recollection of each offense obviously provided him with a lot of pleasure
because he would get noticeably aroused and would ejaculate in his pants
telling the cops about the shit that he did.
Yeah, he wanted people to watch.
He wanted everybody to know what he was doing.
Oh, man.
One of the psychiatrists wrote a book about him entitled The Satis.
now his last words they killed this motherfucker with a guillotine his last words where he asked somebody will i be able to hear them chop off my head because oh i would love to hear the sounds of my own blood squirted out of my neck fucking disgusting fun fact about him uh loose yeah they preserved his head and rippley's got it that's his actual fucking skull and head it's beautiful it's preserved inside of a uh fucking rickland
Ripley's believe it or not.
You know, it's a shame that we can't ask him if he did get that dying wish of hearing his blood squirting out.
Yeah, the last thing he did is his lower half just came everywhere.
Like it just flipped over on its back and just started shooting like a fire hose all over.
Now, did he inspire movies?
I told you he inspired four movies.
Here's what they were.
One of the first true crime-based movies of all time.
Amazing film, if you've never seen it.
It's from 1931.
fresh off of this whole thing happening.
It was directed by Fritz Lang.
It's called M.
And it starred Peter Lorry as a character named Hans Becker,
who was based off of Peter Curtin.
And there was an American remake of M.
That was the second movie.
And then in 1965,
there was a French movie called Thriller Le Vampire de Dusseldorf,
all about Peter Curtin.
And then the 2009 film,
Normal, is based on the crimes of Peter Curtin.
And it's a film adaptation of the play
Anthony Nielsen's play
Normal, the Duseldorf Ripper.
So books, plays, movies.
This motherfucker did it all.
He's the goddamn king of all media.
Peter Curtin, folks.
Success.
Peter.
That's a creep.
Yeah.
I mean, he got off on hearing the blood of little girls
and would just come everywhere.
Well, you know, everybody has their kinks.
Don't kink shame.
To be fair, if it's the blood,
if he had just timed things right.
It's not quite as,
gushy.
That's disgusting.
I know.
I thought you needed that.
This is a classy show.
It's not.
Don't turn this into like some female comic stand-a-backed.
Period.
I have a period.
Don't do it.
I'm going to do it right now just to spite you.
All right.
Just to spite you for bringing such a great creep.
All right.
Do it.
All right.
Are we ready to get into my creep?
Certainly.
All right.
Let's go for it.
So we are going back in time, not quite as far back in time as Vinny just took us.
We are going to 1965 to look at the most sadistic, diabolical case of torture and murder to ever occur in Indiana and probably other places as well.
In Indiana.
I know, I know.
So if you'll throw up my image number one, this is a crime that inspired two movies.
I know you had four under your bag.
Let's not judge me based on this alone.
This crime inspired the movie an American crime and also The Girl Next Door.
both of these movies came out in 2007
and it is not the girl
next door that was inspired
by all boys' wet dreams
not that one that you're probably thinking of
like the rom-com. Right.
This one is all about Gertrude Banashefsky
and the murder of Sylvia Likens.
Interesting. Now I see an
American crime stars Catherine Keener. She's great.
Yes. And Ellen Page
we're dead naming now. Yes, we are.
We are. Maybe you're the trade.
Welcome to 2007.
Amazing.
And I would highly recommend
men both of those movies. Jack Ketchum's The Girl Next Door is particularly vile. Well,
it's got to be better than Juno. Yeah, it's very accurate. Thank you. Yeah, very, very accurate.
Come on, Diablo Cody, my ass. Um, anyways, so the true evil of Gertrude was that she was convincing
tons of neighborhood kids to abuse, neglect, and starve and taunt young Sylvia Likens.
Well, see, the world is rough and you have to teach kids to toughen up. I think, you know,
she sure did do that she sure did do that so the abuse was described as stomach wrenching and the
equivalent to the crimes that holocaust victims suffered but these were crimes that were committed
by 14 year olds under gertrude's supervision hmm sylvia died with over 150 wounds including
burns scalds and eroded skin a bunch of 14 year olds just holding her down and tattooing her
wrist effectively yes it's fucked up yeah it's gonna get worse
So, all right, if you'll pull up my image number two,
we're going to just take a peek at some of the characters that we have in this here tale.
Sylvia Likens is over on the right hand side there.
She was born in 1949, and she died at the age of 16 years old.
That's a weird cut there.
She's got a part down the middle and bangs.
Yeah.
She was a lovely, lovely young girl.
She liked the Beatles.
She was really into the Beatles.
She had a lot of prospects coming forward in her life in the, you know,
mid 60s. You know what? That doesn't impress me that she liked the Beatles in the mid 60s. She might as well
been an in sync fan in 2003 who gives a shit. Listen, listen, let's not judge her so quickly. Let's see what
she goes through. I'm with Gertrude. Fuck this kid. Going with the masses, motherfucker.
So we also have over here on the left hand side, we have a picture of Gertrude. So Gertrude, of course,
was the ringleader in this crime. She's the matriarch of this clan.
We can also see in the middle here, two of her children, Paula Banishesowski, who was 17, John Banishefsky, Jr., who was 13 at the time of the crime, and two other neighborhood kids, Richard Hobbs, 14, and Coy Hubbard, who is 15.
Christ, everybody has bangs of the shit.
It's the 1960s. Nobody knows what they're doing with their hair.
Ape shift media, Gertrude, a beautiful name for a beautiful lady.
And that is exactly correct.
So what we will get into is the jealousy that Gertrude had over Sylvia, and that is a big portion of why Sylvia got the brunt of her anger.
But before we get into that, let's talk about how it all started.
So Sylvia was born to some carnival workers, and her father ended up arranging for Sylvia to stay with Gertrude after they were heading off to the carnival.
So carnival folk, they got to travel around.
See, that's bad parenting.
If I was a baby, I would love to be raised at the carnival.
Do you know how much fun that would be, the life lessons?
It's true.
But I will say also that part of the reason that she had to go live with Gertrude is because
her mom had just gone to jail for shoplifting.
So there were other reasons for going to Gertrude.
She's a political prisoner.
Yeah, I know.
Total shame.
So the plan was that the parents were going to pay Gertrude $20 weekly boarding fees
in order to care for their two daughters.
Sylvia and Jenny.
Gertrude already had seven kids
of her own and the house was basically
the house where all of the neighborhood kids
gathered because there were just a thousand kids
hanging out there all the time.
Gertrude, as we've already noticed,
based upon her appearance, I would say she looks good
in the photo that I pulled here.
I'm going to go with silent shape.
He says the creepiest role Will of Defoe ever took.
Yeah, she's got those.
Yeah, she's very,
she's very jaunt.
she is she was a chain smoker she was underweight haggard depressed she had just started dating
she had three divorces and was had just started dating a 20 year old who was just beating the
shit out of her all the time oh my god what a loser yeah she sucked it was horrible who's this 20 year old
who's just fucking this old thing i know i feel bad for him god the 60s sucked i know it was it was
quite the time the beetles and beatings um so just after the fourth of july in 19th
65, Sylvia and her sister move into Gertrude's house, but only just a couple of weeks later, her dad starts falling behind in those boarding fees. And that resulted in just a Padlin. Not a big deal in the 60s. Everybody was getting. Padlin was late in the 60s. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's not a big deal, you know. So Gertrude kind of starts taking it out on Sylvia because of this. But in addition to that, worse yet, Sylvia was beautiful and young and had potential. She was everything that Gertrude was not.
And that resulted in jealousy, which, as I am sure you aware, the number one thing that causes women to lash out is jealousy.
Yeah.
So this is like a snow white situation where the evil stepmother doesn't like the beautiful young girl.
It sure is.
It's an interesting.
I mean, I guess all the kids were kind of like the seven dwarves if they were evil.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
I could see it.
I could see it.
You know, I'm going to pop this one up.
Text Farts.
And watching Vinnie and Lucy together is like watching Marilyn Monroe and Truman Capote.
Yes, tell me more about Gertrude.
So let's see here.
Where are we?
Gertrude's abuse basically started out small.
She started out just kind of beating her, starving Sylvia, only allowing her to eat out of a garbage can.
So just, you know, mean things.
The humiliation got worse and Gertrude started claiming that because Sylvia
had touched a boy that Sylvia had become pregnant,
which is not exactly how that works.
So now she's the town whore.
Yes, she's the town whore.
She becomes the town whore,
and that is how Gertrude sees her forever.
Traps it around town letting boys touch you?
Yeah.
So Gertrude convinces all of her kids
that Sylvia is complete trash.
And this confrontation ended with Gertrude
and her daughter Paula,
who was three months pregnant at the time,
kicking the crap out of Sylvia's crotch.
So they, oh no, right, right in the crotch.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
Did the mothers really think she was pregnant?
Is that why they were kicking her in the crotch?
It's hard to tell what Gertrude's actual beliefs were,
but that was what she was telling people in order for to convince the kids.
Well, then how did she fucking explain the other one?
Yeah, she, that was fine.
That was fine.
That was Paula.
Paula was totally okay.
Paula was 17 at the time, by the way, just as a reminder about her age.
Now, both Gertie and Paula were had been humiliating her and beating her, and they started getting the neighborhood kids involved.
So one-
Penaata party!
Yep. That's exactly where we're going with us.
Oh, my kids are the clip.
So they start forcing her to eat hot.
dogs until she pukes then she was later forced to eat her own vomit they would burn her
with cigarettes they would use matches to burn her fingertips off all under gertrude's
supervision um later john jr who was eat all your hot dogs you gotta and it'd clean up after
yeah well it's a little bit weird that she chose a phallic shaped food for that i suppose but
you know i don't know gert there's a lot going on with gertie yeah i'm looking in those eyes there's
something going on back there. You can see the
deepness of her soul. The jealousy
watching her daughter eat a hot dog. Yeah.
So John Jr., who
again was Gertrude's son, was
12 years old at one point when he
took urine and feces from a
diaper and rubbed them in Sylvia's mouth.
So again, we're just kind of getting
like more and more disgusting as
time goes on.
Allegedly Sylvia retaliated
to all of this abuse by spreading
a rumor at school that Paula
was a prostitute. And that
was a big no-no. Well, Paula is a fine mother and a lovely young lady. She's doing great. She's
doing great. She actually just recently, she is still alive. She went to jail for her crimes.
She just recently, I think it was in like 2012, so maybe not that recently, but recently compared
to the crime, she got discovered that she was a teacher's aide and fired from her job after
figuring out who it was. What happened? A recess? They were just kicking little girls in the
vaginas. Yes. Yes.
Line up.
Let's relive the glory days.
Ah, they tried to play kickball.
And she got confused and just kicked another child.
Wow.
So when after Sylvia told all the school kids, Paul is a prostitute, that was really the last straw.
So Coy Hubbard, who again is one of the guys who got convicted was, and he was the boyfriend of one of Banashefsky's other kids.
He ends up beating Sylvia senseless before Gertrude finds out about this.
She discovers them, and you would think that this would be one step too far for any mother.
Because again, this is a mother, but not Gertrude, definitely not Gertrude.
She got yelled at for getting touched by the boy again.
The dude's just punched her.
He's like, you're getting pregnant again.
Yeah, yeah.
So Gertrude grabs a paddle and continues beating Sylvia.
And this is when things really just go into overdrive.
The beatings don't stop.
Paula later beat Sylvia so bad that Paula broke her own wrist.
on Sylvia's, like, teeth and her, like, you know, her skull.
And then after she got a cast because her wrist was broken, she used the cast to continue
beating Sylvia.
Well, it's actually more convenient when you have the cast.
It seems very easy.
Yeah, it's much easier.
Very easy.
So everybody was just saying Sylvia's a whore and they even were getting her own, Sylvia's
own biological sister in on the act.
So they would say, you have to beat her up.
And if Jenny, the sister, wouldn't comply, then Jenny would get beaten.
Almost all of the attention got focused on Sylvia.
She did have the sister living in the house also.
Jenny got almost none of the attention, though, attention, the bad kind of attention.
Jenny was fine with that.
Yeah, she was fine.
Well, she had like polio or something, like one of her legs was, maybe she had a peg leg or something.
Something was wrong with her.
So she wasn't as beautiful and young and, you know, all the exciting stuff.
Did they use the peg leg to beat the skin, too?
That's not in the records, but I would like to imagine it.
All right.
So Gertrude not only oversaw all of this, but actively encouraged kids to practice judo on Sylvia,
to lacerate her body, to burn her skin with cigarettes.
Now we are starting to get all of these neighborhood kids coming over.
It's basically like, did you have that one friend that had like a swimming pool and a trampoline?
and their parents had soda pop all the time
and it was like just the best house to go over to.
Yeah, but I wasn't loud over there.
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
I wasn't loud on the trampoline.
That's unfortunate for you.
Especially after I ate all the hot dogs.
Well, that was basically like what Gertrude's house was like,
except the thing that they had was Sylvia.
So kids were just coming over to the neighborhood
to use her as their toy and physically and verbally abuse her.
All the kids every day, like during summer.
We're just like, what are we going to do today?
Where to go kick Sylvia?
That's exactly what was happening in this situation.
Exactly what was happening.
So at one point as punishment for urinating herself,
Gertrude even had Sylvia strip naked in front of all of the neighborhood kids
and insert a glass Pepsi bottle into herself in order to prove to her sister what kind of a girl.
So now they're doing magic shows?
the kids were all very impressed again that's why they wanted to keep coming back it was so wonderful for everybody so um richard hobbs who was 14 at the time of the crimes he describes one of the most sadistic acts that he committed in an interview i'm still not over this this pepsy bottle because frankly i mean she's had up to a size 11 and up there already Pepsi bottle's probably not that bad i i will say that when she done
she was swollen shut.
So they were putting a lot of stuff up there.
Dave D makes a point.
He's more of a Coca-Cola guy.
I'm with you, Dave.
So we're going to check out this interview that Richard Hobbs did.
Again, he was 14 at the time of the crimes.
And we're going to listen to an interview where he describes one of these horrible crimes in my clip free.
He is going to use the term that he is writing on her.
But really what he means is that he is carving on her with scar tissue so bad.
that it was ineligible in spots and he just had bad handwriting yeah all i did was right
out of that thing on her stomach and i hit her about 10 or 15 times how come well most because
gertie told me to our gertie just thought of it she says since you branded us we're going to brand you
so she it's done with a pin and i went over it she showed me how to do it and i went over i did it
that's what i'm talking about what that's what you're talking about how about the inscription on
I'm a prostitute and proud of it.
Who put that on?
I did.
Whoa.
Ha!
So they carved into her stomach.
I'm a prostitute and proud of it.
It's like those that TV show or your best friend gives you a tattoo.
Yeah.
It's not like that at all.
You know what it is before.
You get it.
No, it's not like that at all.
But Gertrude did need to explain the tattoo because, you know, the neighborhood kids are all coming over and hanging out.
So Gertrude was like, yeah, she got that at a sex party.
That's what happens when you.
you're a prostitute.
That's a good point.
They just,
they carve on you at sex parties.
So I suffice it to say,
she was fun at parties,
though.
Everybody liked having her around.
Everybody loved having her around.
It was the party house.
She was the life and death of the party.
So Sylvia did try to escape once.
After she heard Gertrude and Gertrude's son John planning to abandon her for death.
But at the time,
Sylvia was completely emaciated.
She was starved.
She was just in horrible shape,
constant beatings.
So Gertrude caught her very quickly
and then repeatedly struck her
with a curtain rod.
So there was just absolutely
no escaping this hellhole.
Well, better than a Pepsi bottle.
That's, well, I mean,
the Pepsi bottle would have broken over her
if she was beating her with it.
That's true.
So the next time a cast.
We'll go back to cast.
All right.
It's pretty fucked up, Lucy.
Yeah, I know.
It's pretty fucked up.
It's a pretty fucked up.
story you did a better job than carl normally does i'm proud of you thank you i appreciate that i you know
this is one of those cases where it's only one murder it's not a lot of really gruesome stuff but
everything together builds into just the most disgusting deplorable thing that you can possibly imagine
the idea that gertrude was able to manipulate these children into all doing this and thinking that it was
okay and thinking that it was fun that's disgusting man well you know i'm gonna go ahead and just say kids will be kids
you can't really blame Gertrude for everything.
I can.
Oh, come on.
Okay.
No, you're right.
She's no vampire of Dusseldorf.
Okay.
I mean, she wasn't coming everywhere that I'm aware of.
I know.
What's my point?
Jeez.
So by October 26th, just under four months of Sylvia being in Gertrude's care,
Sylvia lost all recognition.
She stopped being able to function.
She defecated herself and ultimately she stopped breathing.
And that I think is why Gertrude is the biggest creep
Because she manipulated these kids
She convinced everybody to do these horrible things
Focused all of the energy on one girl
Just because she was a jealous jealous bitch
So hold on a second
She just stopped breathing
Yeah
She died of natural causes everybody vote for Vinnie
The creep box of this week
She absolutely did not
No, no, no, no, no
150 separate wounds
She had carvings on her stomach
her fingernails were bent backwards.
Her vaginal cavity was completely swollen shut,
and she was severely malnutriot.
I bet you it was a refreshing change after having all those shoes up there.
I mean, no more hot dogs, that's for sure.
Yeah, all right, good job, good job.
So you go to the creepoff.com.
You can vote for me, but you could vote for Lucy this week.
And what will happen is if Lucy wins,
the guest category will get a point.
And if the guests get to five points,
Carl and I have to do a tandem consequence, which I hope never, ever happens again.
Yes.
Now, vote for Kaylee.
I really fucked up, Kaylee.
Tell me more.
I fucked up.
I completely forgot to remind everybody that it is Super Chat Monday.
And we got some people coming in with Super Chats.
And boy, they're being generous today.
We truly appreciate it.
Chris Primer, thanks for the five bucks.
Sequel to John's film, Too Many, Too Many.
Alternative Too Many, Too Many.
John sober's up from a night of party and a sex sling at a,
furry LGBTQ orgy.
That'd be fun. It sounds better than
his first film. Agreed. Hunter,
fucking Duke. Thanks for the $9.99.
My man, happy Super Chat Monday. In case
I can't jump on live, please just replace
old club foot with Kaylee. Both of you
are amazing. We can't wait to see you in Vegas
Vote Venny. Can't wait to see you in Vegas.
Yeah, yeah, I can't wait.
Slim Faley, thanks for the five bucks.
Lucy, what are the chances of a guy like you and a
girl like me getting together? Oh, I love that for
us. Aw. Captain
Boomies, thanks for the 10 bucks. Wow.
Carl looks great, Botox.
Yes.
And producer Chris coming in.
Normally I'd say it's tough to compete with Vinnie's Kitties, but here we are.
Here we are.
Thank you, producer, Chris.
Thank you, everybody, for those.
I got some fun news for you.
We're not doing Carl's cop cam today.
Whoa.
We're doing something a little bit different.
Tell me more.
Thanks to my pal labrin mystic.
We're doing.
Crosream.
He was a chubby man, getting tired of Croscott Cam.
Now he's a running man, finding creeps for the common tale.
Hey, it's the land of Scott Stream.
I can't play all of it.
It's very long, but it's fun.
Thank you very much, Laverin.
Stick for that one.
We really appreciate it.
And Apeship Media came in with two euros, a euro for each of the twins.
Great job, Lucy.
So thoughtful.
That's hard times, baby.
Now, today's cop cam.
It takes place, and I don't know where.
All I know is we are going to watch two really goofy dudes in a fight over a snowblower.
You see, one of these guys was out snowblower.
and he was blowing all the snow on top of this other man's trailer.
And it was very much upsetting him.
And let's start off and see what's going on, shall we lose?
Yes.
Yes.
There he did.
By my trailer on purpose.
Do you need an ambulance?
My hands are just pulled.
What's going on?
I was starting to snow blow.
On to his trailer.
By his trailer.
Under his trailer.
I can see it.
All the way over the front of it is.
I got it on down.
That choice is not going to be moved.
So why you can get snow on it.
Okay.
Oh my God.
So that gentleman is saying that he's just snow blowing.
It happens.
Snow gets everywhere.
But apparently the police have been to this place multiple locations because of these two.
The other guy, apparently one time plowed the other guy stuff in.
So this guy as retaliation blows all the snow on his shit.
And that morning, the other guy, not the one in the yellow, came out and got into a physical altercation with the guy in the yellow jacket.
here's him explaining what happened in his lovely lovely way
that does that give him right to come up push me push the snow blow
try to get injured by the snow blow you have an idea on you
um why why because i'm going to write you both tickets
why why because you're literally blowing snow onto his trailer
to make him mad you both can get tickets give me your idea please
you guys want to you guys want to play this game i'll play this game too you guys can
get tickets i love this cop
hetty i love it the cop is just like fuck both of you guys
I'm sick and tired to deal with this.
Every time it snows, I've got to come over here and deal with you two assholes,
grumpy old men style fucking around.
Now, this guy does not like that, obviously.
And I like this cop's approach.
Dennis, do you have your idea on you?
What's the phone number for?
Stop! Stop! Stop! I'm dealing with it, Dennis.
Jonathan, what's a full number for you?
You still have it on file.
What's your phone number?
You have it on file?
My hands are shaking so bad.
I'm nervous.
I'm upset.
You know what?
I'm sick of tired of you.
Always taking his goddamn side.
I'm going to write him a ticket too, okay?
Oh, bullshit.
If he destroys his phone, does that mean that he doesn't need to give his phone number?
No, he still has to give his phone number.
But this man just took his own phone and spiked it like he just scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl,
having a complete temper tantrum.
And I'm not necessarily going to make fun of his stupid speech impediment.
but it's really hard not to fuck this guy you're really taking the high road bennie yes i
am i don't want to hurt his feelings so he is now very very upset he's slamming his phone on
the ground the cop is like i've given you both fucking tickets asshole settle down and uh that's not
good enough for jonathan over here are you done oh no are you done around doing that shit
what do you mean you want me to arrest somebody instead yes okay i'll arrest both of you
Come up.
The phone is broken because of you.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Now, here's the problem.
A couple of problems here.
He's having a pity party temper tantrum.
And he's like, I'll arrest both of you that.
That's fine.
So he takes his phone and slams it again.
But this time when he did it, not only did he, he realizes it's broken,
slams it on the ground.
It bounce up and hits the cop.
Oh, no.
So now the cop is extra fucking mad because he just got hit by this ass.
hole's phone. So, you'd unfucked up now, Jonathan.
Hey, I saw my own. Stay here. Stay here.
Stop. You throw your phone, it hit me. That hurts. You hit through it in my direction.
It hit me. Stop or you're going to go to the ground. Stop right now. Release me. Please your hands.
Okay. So this all could, there was, if he had just been calm and said this guy,
came and tried to fight me and started a problem.
None of this would be happening right now.
I want everybody to realize this.
Stay calm when you deal with the police.
Emotions could get high.
But even if you're in the right, you have to stay fucking calm.
I will say, though, in that clip, his hands do look really cold.
He was complaining about that a little bit earlier.
Well, wait a see how much colder they're going to get.
The do is calm and you're not doing it.
Okay?
See, I'm wondering what.
turn you what to do to make me calm down and you're not fucking doing that you're throwing stuff
i'm not talking about then i'm talking about now right okay he's now on the ground uh-huh he's got his
hands tucked under his body in the snow and he's refusing to give them to the cops and he's dictating
them that they need to let him go and then maybe he'll give them his hands i told you what to do
you're not doing it so i'm just going to continue to fight with you guess what that means guess what
that means, Lucy, I wouldn't bring you here for Paulino's cop stream.
If it wasn't, taser time, everybody.
It's taser time.
If your hands on your bag, come on, do it now.
You know, are you going to be teased?
Jonathan, come on.
That means he'll relax now.
So don't put it more stress on me.
Ah!
The cop is just,
the cop is just lay the taser into this guy's thigh.
He just has a thing pressed up against it.
And all of those little click-shuters,
heard was the whole time that thing was odd and that guy was fucking howling amazing so
the little guy was the problem we're going to find out because the cops are talking to
witnesses of the whole situation this guy has broken his own cell phone gotten himself
arrested gotten himself tasered listen to this what happened the little guy swung at the
big guy that got him on the ground right now he didn't do nothing he didn't do nothing he didn't
do a fucking thing.
And all because he decided to act like a complete douchebag,
he's getting fucking tasered.
What a dummy.
Now, listen to him.
Scream and beg and be a bitch.
This is incredible.
Okay.
We're going to come in the back of a car car.
I have this fucking nom.
It's not because of the cold.
It's because of the damn handcuffs.
Yeah.
Okay.
I want you to lose the handcuffs so my wrist won't be horny.
We try it and you flipped out.
And then we try it again and you feel it.
flipped out again. So they're staying how
they are. So
he's been fighting the cops with everything
and
he's been tased again.
He's been put on the ground. He's in handcuffs.
And it still
has not dawned on him that he's going to
jail, Lucy. Watch
this. There's always hope.
I'm going to move, try to get my coat a little bit
more comfortable. Okay? If you don't like it,
tough. Can we leave
these keys and a sniper with your
sister-in-law?
why are you arrested me and taking me into a
in jail we're going to take you out of the police department we can't take the stuff with us
are you really taking me to jail i have to leave my stuff here i'm really going to jail
yeah dickhead you're going to jail and they have two cuffs on him by the way folks
he is too fat for one pair of handcuffs they have two pairs of cups and he's still
screaming so uh he's got a lot of chutzba here's a little more temper tantrum if you'd like
Oh, we're going to go that way so we can get them.
Listen to these cops.
Okay, let's walk them.
No, I want to stay right here.
The ambulance can't get through here.
There's too many cars.
We got to go to the ambulance.
I want to stay right here.
So I'm going down.
These cops are holding my wrist.
We got to go to the ambulance so we can get these things taken out.
Fine, then.
Let's go.
Oh, no.
He's making a lot of bad choices.
He does this a lot where the cops are holding them and he just jerks the fuck away.
He's out of his mind.
And I don't feel bad for him.
Now his family, this guy in the T-Mobile shirt, this is his brother.
Of course it is.
Same family tree.
Yeah.
And he explains to the cops that his brother has a disorder.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Can we also just talk about the still of the brother for a second?
Please.
Are his legs like the tiniest?
He looks like a drawing that a child would make, like incredibly round upper half and then really, really small dumpy legs.
If you told me to draw grimace, but I didn't have a purpose.
Purple crayon. I only had a pink one.
That's what he would look like.
That's him.
Yeah, I love it.
Okay.
Grimmis on stilts.
Continue.
Let's find out with disorder.
Yes.
Jonathan has.
Jonathan, please chill.
Fuck that.
Chill.
From you're dead.
I'm over what you need.
Let him go.
He has the fine disorder.
Okay, sure.
The more that you try to resist him, the more he will.
We can tell.
Even as a kid.
Yeah.
The only ones are able to calm him down is me and mother.
Okay.
That's why I wash him.
Okay, sure.
Can I get clinically diet.
diagnosed with defiant disorder.
I had a friend who was diagnosed with us in high school.
That's a real thing?
Yeah.
No.
When I was a kid, they called it oppositional defiance disorder.
ODD.
We used to joke with it because he literally had the paper.
He's like, I have this thing called ODD.
And basically, he just argued with everyone.
Everything was a fucking argument with this kid.
Well, he's handicapped.
He has ODD.
Right.
He's just an argumentative fucking prick.
Like, this is just such a bullshit thing.
And you got it.
You down with the ODD.
Yeah, you know me.
Fucking, we did those jokes forever about ODD because there he goes.
He's fucking arguing again, this guy.
And we're going to find out that he really, really does fight about every goddamn thing the cops tell him.
Everything's a fucking fight.
Watch this one.
Take it easy.
I don't get pace to.
We're not letting you go.
No, I'm staying right here now.
No, I'm staying right here.
I'm refusing to get it checked out.
So what happened?
He did get tased, okay?
John, John, just chill a bit.
They're going to take the tasers out.
Jonathan.
Shut up, Daniel.
Jonathan, wants me in the ambulance, so loose enough.
Is he a relation to him?
Yes, he's my brother.
He's your brother, okay.
Even as a kid, when the cops tried doing this.
Watch him.
He's dragging his feet.
He was born in Texas.
Okay.
He's dragging his feet, but it's all snowy and sloppy.
So he's trying to put his feet down to stop and the cops are just pushing him like a sled.
I also, his brother, him yelling at his brother, shut up, Dan.
It's so Cartman.
Oh, my God.
It's fucking trailer park boys.
This is insane.
Shut the fuck up, Dan.
Oh, God.
I love this guy.
So he refuses to get in the ambulance because they told him to.
Yep. Okay. Let's watch a little bit more of that.
I do not want to be an average at all.
You're not going to fit in our car.
I don't give a fuck. I do not want to be an avidance.
Do you want to try to sit in the back of the truck down?
I don't. I want to say I don't. I want to say I'm going to be an accident.
Because my damn, we have been there by now.
Just think we would have been there by now.
Let's go.
Okay.
This is insane, right?
So is the solution to this disorder just that you tell people to do the opposite of what you want them
to do at all the time.
The cops haven't figured out yet.
Is that, please let
that be where this is going.
They never figure it out.
And it gets worse and worse.
Now, they got to put him in the truck now.
He doesn't, listen,
you heard the cops.
Motherfuck is too fat for a squad car.
Yep.
They're like, you've got to ride in the ambulance.
We can't even fucking fit you in the car.
So here we go.
Getting in the truck.
It's okay.
Because you got that,
you got to have cops.
The longer complaint and the longer it takes us, get there, John.
Put your foot in.
Thank you.
The guy, if you notice, if you had had to, like, push the door to get it to close.
When you have a dresser in your backseat and you're really open, you can leave the Home Depot with it.
Exactly correct.
Except in this case, it's a giant crybaby.
Now they get to the, now they get to the jail and they have to get them out.
Watch them get this fucker out.
John, you got to move those handcuffs off you know, okay?
You got to get out of the back of the squad, though.
Come on.
Come out of the squad now, please.
You want the handcuffs adjusted.
All right.
He's still fighting to get out of the fucking car.
He doesn't want to get out.
They're going to adjust the handcuffs for him.
Still, they have to drag him out.
All he wanted was for the handcuffs to be off.
And they're like, we're going to do it now.
And he's like, no.
So not only do they have.
to fight with them to get the handcuffs off.
They are nice, and they put him in a brand new set of ones
where he could keep his hands in front of him.
Okay?
They are actually being very nice to this tub of shit.
Which is where we made the handcuffs more comfortable for you, right?
Like you want it.
But you're a girl man and you know how to walk.
Let's go.
Come on.
We're not trying to force you.
Let's go out.
Let's go.
Okay.
Hold on.
Not a thing.
God.
Not you up.
We're going to the garage.
This guy just fucking fights everything they try to do.
Now, they have him back in the car with these other cuffs on.
Because now they have to take him to the hospital.
He's refused to go to the hospital.
They have to legally have to have him checked out after they deploy a taser.
So they're trying to get him to the hospital.
And then he decides to start a new fun game in the back of the car.
You're good?
Shut the damn door off.
All right.
I know you don't want this on.
John, and I know you're going to get super claustrophobic with it, but if you hit your head one more time, this is going on your head.
I don't want you to hit your head anymore. If you do it one more time, this is going, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah. Talking about it doesn't work with her.
Dan said just to yell at all many lessons.
The brother said just yell at him. I guess you should stop me. Nice to him.
I am just imagining if the cops did figure out the reverse psychology thing. I would have liked them to be like, well, you're not even allowed in the jail. And then he's like, take me to jail.
Like, that's what I want to have happened.
You know what?
You know what I want you to do?
I want you to hit your head as hard as you can all the way to the next spot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Done.
Now, listen to this female cops lose eater shit now.
Let's put on the helmet.
No.
All right.
Handcuffs are going to go in the back now.
Okay, you really ruin this one.
Yep.
Now they're going to drag him out.
He's still fighting.
And guess what his solution to that is now?
Now that they're going to try to drag him out.
Hell no.
All right.
No.
No.
They got the cuffs behind them.
I've got to have it.
I've got to have to be more now.
Come on, man.
Well, will you stop hitting your head?
That man is a tank.
Yeah, I know.
Holy crap.
They're like, okay.
Now they took the comfortable cuff.
off. Put the fucking annoying cuffs back on. I'm stuck him back in the truck. Put the helmet
on him. He goes, put that on me. I'm just to hit my head more. Bam. Bam. Bam. What a
fucking dickhead. So now they have to pull them out again. Now, keep in mind, this was morning
when this happened. It is now dark outside. Also, they have to go to the hospital for two
reasons now. Whatever brain injuries he's given himself as well as the taser bullshit.
Hey, what's your name, sir? I'm Zach. I'm with a bunch of
department.
Why not?
Hey, push no reason.
You just want to see how a other job?
No.
I don't want you to know.
No, no, no, no, don't put me in that.
Don't put me in that.
No, no, no, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Do you know what they need for this guy?
Remember that thing they used to transport Willie and free.
Willie. I was just thinking that same thing.
They got to get him on a sheet. The whale sling, yeah.
Carl's watch and he said that may have actually fixed his head.
That's a good point, buddy. We miss you. Not really.
I don't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I just like that cry. It sounds like a cartoon.
No.
It's making me feel sad for him.
Oh.
All that.
Over fucking a ticket.
A snowblower.
We're not even done.
Over the next half hour, Jonathan slowly begins to comply and lets the hospital staff check him out so he can gain medical clearance.
He is eventually taken to Wood County Jail without further incident.
Yeah.
So old Jonathan really made shit worse for himself.
And that other little guy was that.
the problem. That other guy was the problem. Dr. Omega, um, where is he? He says we're here. This
guy would be a dream to have on the block. We'd all take turns fucking with him. Yeah. This guy is a
fucking thin-skinned idiot. Be nice to them because this is what happens. This is what
happens. All right. Caley, I don't know if you know how things work around here, but when we're done with
cop cams, it means it's time for some voicemails. And our voicemail segment, as always, is brought to you by the
City of Syracuse.
The Creepoff voicemail segment is brought to you by the City of Syracuse.
We at Syracuse love that Hulu cut off the Oscars before the end of the show.
Apparently, it was a show solidarity for Carlos Sophia Gascon's dick.
See you in Syracuse.
Oh, thank you, McBride.
Podcast profit here, calling me a dumb ass and rightfully so.
Vinny, podcast probably here, Carl, how are you?
Vinny, what the fuck, dude?
When you're talking about the plane, nose diving
and you're a crash up and the guy
that, you know, shot people, you said mac one point
something. Did you mean mock?
Yes.
Like mock one, mock two is like speed for planes
and shit like that.
Not mac. You think you have mac and cheese
because you're so fat and hungry?
Yes.
Anyways, thank you for you back.
He's right.
I earned that.
I totally did say Mack instead of mock.
I am dumby.
We have a new best friend calling in,
our new pal, the Olive Garden Waitress.
She wants to tell us about some shit that she has seen.
Hello, this is the Olive Garden waitress.
I'm incredibly early.
Just listen to the episode.
First time caller and I already have my own subsection.
I feel honored.
Unfortunately, this is not Kay.
we know i am someone else unfortunately
damn it
but um yeah i have so many weird
olive garden stories if you guys are interested about creepy
people that come into olive garden uh like for starters
the guy's shit in a lobby but um
right
did she just tell me that someone took a shit in the lobby of an olive garden
i'm impressed that he got his pants down and pinched one off
before somebody stopped him
okay Carl no it's not Kate Mimi it might be mint salad he's right that might be bit
what blew my mind here though is that that was the end of it and she's got more
story so listen can you do me a favor next week at Olive Garden Waitress and leave me a
voicemail and tell me why this guy shit in the lobby I'm assuming it's because he ate
there but could be something else I'd like to know and last voicemail today and this is
brilliant. I need this
made. Someone help me out.
Okay, Carl, I know you don't like the misfits,
but I just got started getting
into them and I thought of an idea for a parody
song for The Creep-off.
I got something to say,
I threw your baby
today, and it doesn't matter
much to me as long
as it's dead.
All right. Bye.
Oh, man.
Please, somebody.
Last caress, I think is the name of that.
song, if I recall. I'm a big misfits guy, especially since they punched Carl.
Johnny Blazin, good point. Carl isn't a member on his own show. That's correct.
That is absolutely correct. All right. Kaylee, you've been wonderful. We're having a great time.
We got to hit up a couple of super chats real fast. The old Taser 180 turnaround. Problem to
complain. All right. Thanks, Labron Music. Labron Mystic.
all right and one of these days i'll get this right it's time for skum parade
scum parade take me on a raid of these fuck charades that these creeps have made
scum parade viddy and carl gonna tell you about some fuck shit
scum parade like stories of a kid fucked by his mom or dad
So get up the blood of a cat's got parade.
Now, if you watch last week's episode, you will know I am no fan of the fucking airlines.
The airlines are the worst.
I hope they all go out of business.
And something new rises from the ashes.
I don't care if it's a series of tubes.
Anything that avoids gets me out of flying I'm good with.
But this couple, I thought I had it bad trying to get back from.
Florida, Lucy, this couple right here, I'm going to show you a picture of them, had it way worse.
This is Mitchell Ring and Jennifer Collin.
They were flying on Qatar Airways from Melbourne, Australia to Venice when a woman, a big fat woman, suddenly collapsed in the aisle after going to the bathroom.
She was unable to be revived and she dropped dead.
She just died in the middle of this international flight.
It happens.
Now, unfortunately, the lady couldn't be saved, which was pretty heartbreaking to watch Mr. Ring, told the news.
They went to try and move her.
They brought this chair down and they put her in the chair and tried to wheel her upwards towards business class.
But she was quite a large lady, and they could not get her through the aisle.
How did she get on to the plane to begin with?
Under her own power.
So crew members noticed that there were vacant seats on both sides of the couple and just said to them,
one steward says hey could you just move over just a little bit and they go sure so they move over because they thought they just needed space to get the fat corpse out of the way no my friends they put the dead woman right next to mr rig here's a picture they put a bunch of blankets and shit over this corpse and put it next to this guy who's got his beats on trying to forget that a dead fat woman is decaying next to him on his flight do you like when you're taking
taking that picture? Do you say, like, hey, look over here and smile. Like, he is. Jesus. Now, this woman, apparently Ms. Collin is a nervous flyer. She was very traumatized by this. When my husband turned around and said, move, move, I was pretty shot. And I said, are they going to put her there? Luckily, a woman with the spare scene, another row inviting Ms. Collin to sit with her. And this guy just sat there by himself with the corpse for the rest of the flight. Now, Mr. Rigg said the Cruz began taking the blankets off of the body and inspecting.
after they landed and they would not let them leave because he was stuck on the inside seat
they wouldn't let him get up and go over the body he had to sit there while paramedics and
all these people came in and are checking her pulse and to do it all sorts of shit to this
corpse what if you had a if i got delayed and missed my flight because of a fat lady fucking
corpse oh my god what it looks like he's also at the window seat what happens if he has to pee does
he have to climb over it i'd piss right on her yeah i'd piss right on her i'd piss
right on her. I wouldn't even care.
So I'm going to go out and say Qatar Airways, go fuck yourselves.
Not a great one. Although I would probably sit next to a dead fat corpse if it meant that I could
fly for free for the rest of my life and they probably will get that.
On what, Qatar Airlines? Yeah. Okay. Why not?
Listen, I don't think I would be happy. I don't think there's anything they could do for me at that
point. No, yeah, it's horrible. It's horrible. To cheer me up. This is the worst protocol.
ever there's no protocol for this there is they have they absolutely all of the airlines literally
have in their guidelines what you're supposed to do when somebody dies because they happens all the time
there are dead bodies on planes all the time well i know that i assume that because like they
transport them places they have medical emergency protocols well including death well they don't
have one for apparently for the fat yeah it turns out that there's a weight limit to their
protocol that's unfortunate
Let's go to Nebraska.
Let's meet this lady.
Now, this is Michelle Lamar.
She's 49 years old.
And she was found guilty of second-degree murder and tampering with evidence for the brutal murder of her boyfriend Jesse Gilpin in March of 2022.
She had called 911 at the time, claiming to have woken up and found Gilpin unconscious in bed at their home and Winnebago Indian Reservation.
Gilpin, a dad, was rushed by Medevac to 12 clans, United Hospital in Sioux City, Iowa, where nurses noticed something.
a little strange. He had a significant amount of makeup on his face and all over his body.
Once they were able to wash the makeup off, it revealed numerous injuries, including a golf ball
sized or bigger knot or bruise on the left side of his head, as well as bruises on the right side of
his head. Now I'm going to go ahead and say this, Michelle Lamar, you must be a fucking whiz
at makeup if you could hide a golf ball sized knot on someone's head with makeup. You know, it's funny.
you pulled up the picture and I was going to compliment that her makeup looked very nice.
What could she have possibly done wrong?
But it turns out the answer was makeup.
That's true.
Was it murder?
Maybe it's baby.
So the makeup was described as having been applied thickly and appeared fresh and not slept in.
A nurse at Mercy Medical Center said it took her a while to scrub the makeup off of Gilpin's face.
And she noticed it was a match for his skin tone.
Wow.
I can't even do that.
Very impressive.
Gilpin died the next day from
Do you think this broad
Murdered this guy
Hit him over the head with something
And ran to Target
Yeah and I think that she brought a skin sample
I think she was like
Do you know how many foundations there are in those aisles
It is hard to get a color match
That is impressive
I'm proud of her
She told investigators that he passed
At around 5 p.m. the night before
And when she woke up she found him dead
Prosecutors discovered evidence
On her phone and social media account
That proved that she lied when she claimed
To have passed out and found her boyfriend
Unconscious in bed
Marst children and other relatives
told police that she had a history of physical violence towards him.
She was guilty of second-degree murder and tampering with documents or evidence after a five-day trial in Omaha.
She is facing life in prison and she's going to be sentenced on June 5th.
Isn't that great?
It's just wonderful.
I have some news on a baby thrower, everybody.
I can't wait.
There's a big story out of Paris.
Wow, there we go.
An American tourist is accused of killing her newborn baby by tossing it out of a Paris hotel window.
It has been revealed to be a fresh-faced teenager from Oregon, Oregon, Oregon, Oregon.
Gapier student Mia McQuillen, she's 18, was part of a group of young people traveling in Europe, according to French authorities.
Investigators believe she was suffering from pregnancy denial.
That'll happen.
Does it?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Women will completely say the entire time that they're pregnant, they'll be like, I'm not pregnant, I'm not pregnant, I'm not pregnant. And then when they give birth, they got to do something with the thing that came out of them. That's why so many women garbage can. That's fucked up. It's very fucked up. What floor was her hotel room? Did we establish that? It was a 30-foot plunge. I believe it was from the second story. Hold on a second.
I got something to say
I threw your baby today
and it doesn't matter much to me
as long as it's dead
Baby survived the plunge
by the way everybody
Baby survived the plunge
and was rushed to the hospital
it was from the second floor of the Iba Stiles Hotel
and it was still attached to the abilical cord
now if I'm her
I'm explaining to the police that it was a bungee accident that went wrong.
That's just my thought.
But investigators in Paris believe the young woman was suffering from pregnancy denial, like we said,
and she gave birth unexpectedly at the budget hotel in the French Capitol.
This is a three-star hotel, by the way.
And it's not going to help them when babies are flying out of windows.
It's going to say it's a two-star hotel now.
Certainly is.
Emergency services took the baby to the hospital after witnesses reported the incident around 6 a.m. on Monday.
The street was closed for more than five hours.
hours after the incident. Now, that should get you the death penalty at least. If you're
fucking up traffic, oh, I hate you. Witnesses reportedly alerted by screams before calling
the emergency services, the baby who said had been taken to the hospital in, quote, absolute
emergency. The investigation was underway with the precise circumstances of this tragedy
remaining to be established. So, rooms at this place go for about $100 a night on average. So
if you're planning on going to Paris and you're looking for a deal, I'm sure that number has dropped a little bit recently.
Are you ready for our last scum parade story, Kaylee?
I am.
This guy.
Oh, boy, this guy.
Hold on.
You know what?
While you're pulling it up, actually, I have a small bone to pick with you.
Carl is not even here, and I know that you have multiple versions of the scum parade song, and yet you still played the wean version, even though Carl is not here.
You got to see the wean version?
I had to suffer through the wean version.
Driving children
Of quillette
Oh, Pitos, dittal in
Two bag of murderers
Rapeas do a rinkin'ry
Riggie reids
OECDial path
Abusive asshats
Gather some parade
Scum parade
On the creep on the free fall
Yeah,
Slum parade
Oh,
Cone parade
Oh,
Carla and Vinny.
And Vinnie are back.
Ha!
Oh!
We got to have Sarah change that to.
Vinny and Kaylee are back.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
It's wiped wean from my memory.
There you go.
There you go.
Fast fact guy 666 says,
thanks for the $2.
I'm late.
Why does car look so attractive today?
Well, Lady K
finally became a lady,
became Lady C.
Labr and Mystic member for two months.
He makes a good point.
You show me the long.
line in the air flight manual that points to dead fat bitch removal I want to see it
where's my what's my airfare playing for I can read I swear now listen this next story
we have some victim blaming going on okay we're going to find out we're going to
to a call from a man in his 60-year-old man claiming to have been assaulted by a juvenile.
But further investigation of the incident led to some charges against him, Cayley.
This is Philip Alexander Petit.
He was arrested on charges of criminal sexual conduct with a child.
Okay.
The arrest stems from an incident on December 28, 2024, when police say he called claiming he had been assaulted by a juvenile male.
When police went to a street, Petit allegedly told officers, he,
quote, fucked up, and it provided alcohol to two boys from his neighborhood that he knew were
underage. Police also reportedly seized Petit's phone, and they noticed contemporous text
messages from one of the boys. On there as well, the two boys were located at one of their
homes nearby. The 12-year-old boy who hit the reports labeled as the victim appeared as though
he had been crying and was visibly upset. According to responding officers, police said the boys
smelled of alcohol and preliminary breath test indicated they had drunk recently. Now,
They start looking into the criminal sexual conduct charges after a forensic interview with the 12-year-old victim.
During the interview, the boy said he and his friend knew Mr. Petit from the neighborhood and gone there on the night of December 27th.
He gave the boy's alcohol, which he told them was juice.
Now, according to the victim, he noted that the liquor burned his throat and Mr. Patton said, oh, maybe it's a little old.
I mean, that's kind of what alcohol is.
he's not lying yeah he's technically right the boys have spent time drinking alcohol and playing
the card game uno duh hot what else would you do before the two boys fell asleep on the couch
or slash passed out on the couch the victim told police so when he was woken up by a sensation
of uh this fellow's mouth on his dick the boy said he recognized uh what mr petit was doing
and began punching him in the face to make him stop and we're still calling calling this
kid the victim?
Yes.
That sounds, I don't know.
All right,
continue.
I've never punched a woman in the face over this before.
Even when they're toothy,
I don't punch him in the face.
His screaming woke up the other boy who was also asleep on the couch.
In his interview,
the victim said he left Pett's home to cool off after the incident,
but returned a few minutes later to get his friend.
After the boys left,
they went to one of their homes at a neighboring residence.
Investigators collected DNA samples from between,
and the victim, along with the clothing the juvenile was wearing during the December 27th, 28 incident,
and the DNA clothing samples were sent to the Minnesota BCA for testing, and the analysis came
back, revealed the presence of DNA in and around the victim's underwear and pants.
The DNA analysis revealed the presence of semen and saliva.
The defendant could not be eliminated from and was indicted, indicated as a possible contributor.
So I'm going to go ahead and say this.
somebody came
whether it was this guy or the kid
somebody came
somebody got punched
either way
this creepo
got some kids drunk
and started blowing him
not great
not great
not great
what have we done today
Kayley
we had a competition
and by the way
you could go to the creepoff.com
and vote now
the poll is up
I'm going to check on it
and see how we're doing
and see if anybody's
for Lucy right now
while he's checking on it
you could
I wouldn't though
if I were you
let's see who we got.
Oh, we have to vote.
I know who I'm voting for.
What a waste.
God damn it.
Yes.
God damn it.
Yes.
I love it.
Yeah, she's in the lead by quite a bit.
So make sure you go to the creepoff.com and help me out and vote this week.
I'd also like to.
Or help me out and vote.
I'd also like to remind you, Hackamania tickets are on sale.
Hackamania.com.
Use promo code creep and save 10%.
Kaylee.
Lucy type box.
Yes.
You have so many interesting things you're working on right now.
Would you like to share them with us?
I do. Well, first of all, I'm very excited about Hackamania.
Cannot wait to hang out with everybody there.
In addition to that, people can always go check out my movie reviews at Once Over with
Kaylee on YouTube. I talk about all different types of movies.
And I have something very exciting, which is that I just started a new podcast, which is called
The Murder Game.
And it is a hypothetical thought exercise style podcast where we basically create fake crimes.
We are looking to get high body counts.
The entire goal of the game is to kill the most people that you.
possibly can. So I already have quite a few awesome guests for that. And I would love to have you as
a guest soon, Benny. Oh, I'm in. And you can find that at a murder game podcast on YouTube or
murder game pod on Twitter. Murder game pod on Twitter. Oh, and I'm on Spotify now. I finally
figured out how, you know, like platforms work that are not YouTube. So I'm learning that. Yay.
All right, folks. Make sure you're following Kaylee everywhere that she can. She's wonderful. And I really
appreciate you coming and hanging out with me today. It was a lot of fun.
This was great. Thank you so much for having me. It was such a nice, refreshing change of pace from
stupid. Yeah. Just kidding, Carl. Can't wait for you to come back. We'll be back on Friday
with a bonus episode for you members and you patrons. Until then, it's nice to be important.
You're supposed to say it's more important to be nice. It's more important to be nice.
Go Gia. We'll get out of here. You can me the fuck out of here.
What's the hell is it supposed to fly.
The next one is it?
What the hell is it supposed to be?
Thank you.
