The Creep Off - Episode 258: Sugarfoot vs Snaggle Foot

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

Welcome back, creepos! Karl and Vinnie are no strangers to the Sunshine State. This week, in honor of their trip to "Dabble House," they’ll be making their nominations for the biggest creep in the state of Florida!The score is currently Vinnie 4 - Karl 2 – Guest 3 visit thecreepoff.com to vote and decide this week’s winnerCheck out this week’s scum parade stories here: Gravedigger charged with disgusting act against baby's corpse at cemetery after couple finds boy's body | Daily Mail OnlineMourners shocked as gangsters set fire to rival’s coffin during wake | Need To KnowMum befriends lonely neighbour - only to discover he's been filming her family naked - Daily StarAlec Stephen West: Victorian father jailed for more than 11 years over creation of child abuse subscription game | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news siteWant more of the madness? Support the show on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to snag exclusive merch and get an extra bonus episode every week!Don’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108You can follow our results girl Mahalia @mahellllyeah

Dabble House, it's coming up this weekend. Dude, you're leaving Wednesday. I'm leaving Thursday. Just a couple days away, man. Dude, it is going to be a fun, fun weekend filled with crazy shows. We had a great meeting the other day about the stuff we're going to be adding. Yes. I think people are going to really dig it.

So keep an eye on dabblecon. Live for the updated schedule. And just to get the pay-per-view, you're going to want to do it because the price, did it go up yet? It's going to go up tomorrow. Oh, boy. Because we're adding an additional program of Point Dabblepoint. And then Shooey's got a game show thing that he's doing on Saturday that we're adding on top of the other programming. It's going to be a lot of stuff.

Now, I also heard that there might be a Wings Watch Along. That's correct, yes. Yeah, I'm pretty excited for that myself. All right, let's talk about the other thing we have to plug real quick. Hackamania, that's coming up even faster. That's like a month away now. Well, I wouldn't say it's faster. Well, I mean, we started plugging that in January.

That's true. Yes, we are getting very close now. Okay, use promo code creep. Save 10% off your tickets. Let's creep off, Carl. Let's do it. Attention parents. What you're about to see is not suitable for kids.

Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't any of these type of thing. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation. Horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the good. because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo. I don't care, I don't care.

My jokes don't. an inducing thing. Ola Creepos, welcome to another episode of your favorite True Crime podcast, the show that is

consistently on loop. I thought I hit it. I really thought I hit it. You're a looping motherfucker, you know that? Listen, man, I got to go back to what brought me here.

That's right. It's show about creeps, by creeps, for you creeps. I'm your host. My name is Vinnie. I will try not to screw up the rest of the show. I am joined today

by my favorite co-host. The guy who seems to be get a great mood. It's hot. Cuckacarrel. Yeah, you hear that? Cardiff's favorite co-host. That's right, buddy. Good to see it, Benny. Good to see you too. Now, my friend, it's a competition. It's the creep off. Today we're going head to head. Do you want to explain the rules of the people? I do. So every single week, Vinnie and I compete to see who can bring the biggest creep in a certain category. Today's category is the state of Florida. Somehow, that's never been a category before on here. Well, we've been to Florida. We did Tampa. We did cities, but we've never opened it up to the whole state.

we could be, we're going down to Florida for Dabel House or not telling anybody where we're going to be, just opens up the whole state. Exactly. So today we'll be competing to see we can bring the biggest creep from the state of Florida than you find folks. Go to the creepopop.com and vote for who you thought brought the biggest creep. We'll tally up

the votes and the next week we'll figure out who won the previous week. That person gets a point. Once somebody gets to five points, they win the round and the other person has to spin the dreaded wheel of consequences created by our boy Lockie back there. Isn't it beautiful? It's amazing. Now, speaking of beautiful and amazing, our results girl's here to tell us who won.

Let me get a... Can I get it, my hell yeah? My hell yeah. What's up, my hallia? Hi, boys. How goes it? Awesome. How are you doing?

Doing wonderful. Good to be here. You were always so perky. I can't imagine you in a bad mood. Does it ever happen? Depends on the day. I'm not spinning the wheel of consequences, so I'm here to deliver good news. Yeah, you know what?

You do have it easy on this show. now that I think about it. I don't know. I think I could see her pretty mad, Carl. Yeah? Yeah. I think I could piss her off? Yes.

But I just think that she's got that in her. I think she's got some hellcat. She gets upset. Am I wrong? Are you going to be in Vegas again this year? I am going to be in Vegas. Nice. She's going to be on our show, dude.

For you guys to come back. Great. Well, then I'll see what I can do to see if we can figure out if Malia gets in some bad mood sometimes. that'll be my task see what happens okay well ladies and gentlemen without any further ado would you please let us know who won last week's it would be my pleasure i am here to announce coming in with 57 percent of the vote this week in the category of biggest creep in the supermarket the winner is binnie you know what that means that means to be hell yeah this is a huge deal

I'm feeling good you know what that means what that means well yeah this means that Vinnie you are now leading round 30 with a score of four to one putting you on game point four to two technically carl's got two let's not rob him but I am on game point which is uh precarious situation I've won four in a row buddy I was up two nothing this round

you were you were it is a precarious situation you look so down right now yeah this is not good this is not great this is not good I mean I brought a guy who shot up 10 people in the supermarket for no reason at all

my guy shot up 11 because they were black yep I know he had a reason right makes it less creepy at least he had an agenda that he had a cause wasn't just a randau you're so fucked up all right uh hell yeah what happens what happens if uh carl carl's still got a consequence out that he has to do he does have a consequence

and should he lose this week which he very well just might what he will actually have it's outrageous two two consequences stacked up because he has not completing his viewing of joker two not just once, not twice, but thrice. Oh, boy. All right. I'm going to get on that, I guess. That W is just two Vs, baby. I would also like to note that Major League creep off rules do state that if a loser has

not completed their outstanding consequence by the time a second one is to be doled out, they do not spin the wheel. Instead, the winner of that round picks the consequence for the loser. Okay. All right. If those are the rules, those are the rules. Better have brought it this week, Carl. It's Major League Creep-off rules, Carl.

I mean, Mahalia would know better than I do. I don't study the rule book as much, so she says so. It's her and Fisker-Wisker. They're the only governing bodies of this whole fucking thing. So, uh, Mahalia, where can everybody follow you? Everyone can follow me at Mahalia on Instagram. I follow the creep-off. They follow me.

And you all should out there, too. All right. We'll see you soon. We'll see you in Vegas. Thanks, Malia. Yeah, bitch. You sour bastard. She did not bring good news today.

No, she didn't. Well, that for you. Not for me. Oh, man. Hey, you know what'll cheer you up? The holiday? The holiday. It is Super Chat Monday.

We are celebrating here on the creep off. Rocco Orby 2002, thanks for the 10 bucks. He's starting the holiday off strong. The financial audit loser was amazing. He's woke dad, Patty C C C Cups and Jerry Banfield rolled into one. Also, I hope one of you picked that Joy Junction puppeteer who had a literal appetite

for kids. Now, Carl, you did bring that guy. Do you remember that? Oh, yes. The Joy Junction cannibal? Yes, I do remember that. Yep, so that guy's off the board. Yeah, he's off the board, but that's definitely a good deep picket. But yes, this week's WATP, we reviewed

the financial audit show that, you know, a lot of people check out with Caleb Hammer. And his guest was a lunatic. He was a loony tune, so it was a fun one. I listened to that in my car yesterday and enjoyed the hell out of that. Yeah, it's crazy. Silent Shape, thanks for becoming a member of our YouTube channel. We really appreciate that, buddy.

And last but not least, Hamilton Burger, thanks for the two Canadian dollars. Are they worth more or less now with tariffs? Good question. Probably less. Oh, damn it. But the U.S. dollar has definitely gone down. Hmm. Well, that makes it easier for everybody to super chat.

It sure does. Those dollars aren't even worth anything. Give them to us. Yeah. We'll take them off your hands for. you. Hamilton Burger says both picks last week did solid supermarket sweeps. Correct.

You know, what a great game show that was. The creepoff? Supermarket sweep. Do you ever watch that? I don't think I did. Is that the one where they just ran around the supermarket grabbing stuff off the shelves for points? Yep. Okay, I guessed. I didn't. That's the one. I didn't. I don't think you'd see it. It just guessed. All right, buddy. We're going down to Florida

today. It's a competition, so we might as well get that started. You want to ring that bell? Vinny one, so he'll be going first and presenting his creep. Now, Carl, I'm going to show you a picture of my creep. This is Christine Falling. I picked that drop because she looks like Bill Doughtree from King of the Hill. Yeah. This is not a lovely woman.

Not a looker. Not a looker. Not even trying either. That hair, she's not even trying to be hot. She's got to get a makeup tutorial or two. it's hard to look hot when you've been locked up since 1982 i see now this is christine laverne slaughter that was her born name uh she was born into a really fucking crazy situation her she was the youngest daughter of a 65 year old guy and a 16 year old girl talk about a winter spring

relationship yeah her childhood was uh basically poverty and neglect uh there was nothing supportive in her house for her she was diagnosed at an early age as mentally challenged. Why isn't mom taking care of her? What is she lazy? She has lazy bones? I don't know. She's going to the sock hops. She's going to hang out at the soda fountain with all the kids. Christine was shuffled between orphanages. When her dysfunctional parents just gave up on keeping it together, they disappeared. She's stuck in an orphanage. That's what she came up with a new hobby, Carl. This is young her. She looks like David Gilmore from Pig Floyd. It's awful. She started torturing cats. I hate that.

Yeah, she was throwing them off of rooftops to test their nine lives, setting them on fire. Pretty much anything she could do to them. If that wasn't enough of a red flag for at age 14, her father came back into her life and he forced her to marry a 20-year-old guy at some weird church. You can do that in America? Wow. Okay. Yeah, well, that's what happened. It lasted all of six weeks.

What followed was a complete mental breakdown, including delusions, hallucinations, and a whopping 50 hospitalizations over. two years. Doctors couldn't find anything physically wrong, so she was diagnosed as medically incapacitated by age 16. All right, so far, none of this is going to be her fault is what you're setting up here. Okay, good. Oh, okay. Okay.

You think so? Seems like she got a tough hand. She did have a tough hand. But let me tell you something. It doesn't mean you get to delve other people tough hands. And here's what happened. When you're a 16-year-old girl and you're like kind of slow, What kind of job can you get to support yourself when you don't have parents and stuff?

Prostitutes one. I think she was probably too slow to think of that. Okay. And also, I don't think anybody's paying. Oh, man, that's a good point. Yeah. Gloryhole attended? No.

How about babysitter? Oh, no, I definitely wouldn't think that. A person who tortures cats? Probably not. Well, I wouldn't leave my kids with the neighborhood cat torture either. No, it seems bad. But you know what? A lot of couples decided to do that.

She was taking care of a two-year-old named Cassidy Johnson in 1980. Christine told the doctor that the toddler just passed out and fell from her crib, and that she just died. That doesn't happen. It's not how crib's work. Yeah, she just fell right out of her head and died. It's not how cribs work. Yeah, the doctor did not believe her, and they diagnosed the baby with meningitis caused by a traumatic brain injury.

So, fun story, the doctor wrote a note to the police that said, You need to look into this. This is a terrible situation. Yeah. And the cops lost the note. And they were just like, okay, go ahead. The doctor's like, I don't think this kid was a pole vaulter. There's no way he was the one who jumped out of the crib.

Nope. Case closed. They couldn't find the note. Yeah. Didn't do a damn thing. She's out. She moves to Lakeland, Florida, Florida four months later. There she's babysitting four-year-old Jeffrey Davis.

Oh, good. She's getting more work. Yep, yep, yep. This kid dropped dead under Christine's care from something called. called myocarditis, according to the doctor's. Yeah. We know about Martin. I'm not going to say why we know all about that, but we know all about that.

I don't know anything about it. Oh, okay. Thank God. Don't forget to get your booster, everybody. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is a very rare thing in children. Yes, it is. Turns out it's not until 2021.

I forgot. They say this kid has myocarditis. whatever the fuck this is. Yeah. And the kid just dropped dead. Okay. That's terrible. So now she's like, oh for two.

Yeah, she's like a unlucky storm cloud this one. Well, I'll tell you what. They gave her another chance because Jeffrey's funeral was coming up, the little baby who died. So they had her take care of his two-year-old cousin Joseph Spring, who wouldn't you know it, the poor kid was dead a couple of hours. Fucking people were stupid. And this time the doctor said, oh, this kid had some kind of virus, we guess. Who are these doctors?

Florida doctors. What's the 16th century or something? Carl, again, nothing suspicious here. She's just unlucky. Oh, for three, she just struck out. Okay. So, you know what she decides? She decides, you know, I should probably stop babysitting for a while.

Yep. And what I ought to do is start taking care of old people. Oh, boy. now at least they've lived a long life and she gets a new gig as a living housekeeper nursing assistant for a 77 year old man named William Swindle who was found dead in the kitchen the same day she started the job she does make quick work in these things she is efficient yep she is efficient now she wasn't done with the little ones car later that fall she was babysitting her eight year eight month old niece Jennifer Daniels in a parking lot

and a few minutes it took her sister to run to the store Jennifer stopped breathing the death was ruled SIDS What's SIDS? Sudden infant death syndrome They're like that you'll have their stuff Christ She should get hired by a casino

To be like a cooler A cooler Yeah she seems like bad luck around people She's got the best luck in the fucking world She's murdered like six people Oh she's murdering these people they're just dying next to her sure sure well i'll tell you why her hot street came to a close carl okay in 1982 with the death of a 10 week old baby named Travis coleman who died from

internal injuries only consistent with suffocation this time the autopsy findings raised real red he had suffocationitis poor kid what a rare disease that is this time the doctor's like this kid fucking got killed yeah so the police start questioning christie like hey is this anything like this ever happened to you before and she's like I don't know seven like they start looking into her background and they're like holy shit so then they bring her into a room and they say Christine do you want to tell us what happened and she said I smothered the baby did you smother any other babies yes did you murder this old guy yes she smothered them all with blankets and doctors blankets and pillows and doctors thought they died of viruses

and shit yeah that's ridiculous um so no one ever asked her before this was the first time someone asked that we could have figured this out yes after the first one just like yep i did it florida's terrible here's a picture of her going into court with the stalgetty from the golden girls and uh this guy in the background i'm pretty sure that's um molly mccarthy's husband he's following her in this is the 70s we're looking at the 82 jesus this looks like a uh silent film she has the build of grimace yes and I imagine she speaks like Lisa Boswell. Those titties ain't retarded.

Yeah, they are. If you find out she used those to smother the 77-year-old, do you feel bad for them or no? I don't know. I wanted that to do with that. I like this picture of her at court. I don't know how many I killed. I'm like she's in a play. Right?

So she ends up pleading guilty to three murders for Johnson, Daniels, and Coleman, sparing her from the death penalty. In December, 1982, she was sentenced to life in prison. She became eligible for parole after 25 years, but was flatly denied in 2017, where this lovely picture was taken. She was up for parole last year, also denied. She is in the Lowell Correctional Institute in Ocala, Florida. Don't leave your kids with the neighborhood cat killer. Go to the creepoff.com and vote for Vinny, please.

All right, Vinny, great presentation. I want to present to you a man that I can't believe has not been on this show yet. When you said his name, I went, God damn it. Pull up my photo of Danny rolling, please. I would like to point out, this picture of this man, he looks like he's arguing with his landlord and his broke dad apartment. I don't have the rent this month, Your Honor. You're right, yeah, it's a dollar-it-s-sales guy. Now, that's him in court.

He lives next to Millhouse's dad and those apartments. All right, so August 24th, 1990. In the early morning hours, Danny broke into a... The apartment shared by two university freshmen, 18-year-old, Sanja Larson, and 17-year-old Christina Powell. He found Powell sleeping on the couch downstairs and went, I'll be really quiet. He got in his tippy toes, and he tippy-toed up the stairs. And that's where he found the roommate, Larson, sleeping. He put duct tape over her mouth so that she could, like, make a lot of noise, right?

He didn't leave money under her pillow then. And then he attacked her with a knife and stabbed her a bunch of times, and she died. that'll do it so then he goes back downstairs because he was real quiet about it so the other girl's still sleeping and then he decides

you know what I'm gonna tape her mouth shut as well tied the wrist behind her threatened her with the knife and cut off her clothes then raped her forcing her onto the floor where he stabbed her five times

to the back killing her afterward why didn't he rape the other one too well after he got done raping this one he went I'm not done raping yet and he went back up stairs and raped the corpse of the first girl that he murdered. The very next day, August 25th, he broke into an apartment of 18-year-old Krista Hoyt, a

chemistry honors student at Santa Fe College by prying open a sliding glass door to the screwdriver. When he found out she wasn't home, he decided, oh wait. So he just sat in the living room, waiting for her to get home between 10, 30-11 after playing racquetball with a friend. Hoyt came back to an apartment. I hope he don't mind. I had some cereal. Yeah, right.

I took some privileges with the pantry. I hope that's cool. This guy just looks like such a dork. So he's fucking duct tape in women's mouth shuts and stabbing them and raping them. Jesus Christ. Yeah, yeah, with a K-bar knife, too. So she gets home and she's like, hey, I don't have a roommate. What are you doing here?

He quickly put her in a chokehold. And once he had her subdued, he taped her mouth shut, tied her wrist behind her, led her to the bedroom. And then he cut off all of her clothes and raped her. And like the Powell murder, he forced her. to lie face down in the bed and stabbed her in the back, causing severe damage to her aorta. Afterward, he flipped over and sliced open her abdomen from her pubic bone to her breastbone. Later back at his campsite, Rowling realized that he couldn't find his wallet, thinking he may have left to the crime scene.

He went back, where he then decided to decapitate Hoyt. Well, well, I'm here. While I'm here, I'm about to take the head off. Did he find his wallet? Yes. Was it inside of her? It wasn't inside of her now. Did he leave his wall?

inside of the wallet he made. But no, he decapitated there. And then he set the body up in a sitting position and placed the head staring at the body across from it. That's the shit that fucking, what's his name did? Old Ed Kemper. Oh, right. Jesus, Christ. That's fucking some kind of special.

Well, would you walk in and find that? That's why he did it. He wanted to be as shocking as possible for the person who discovered the dead body. Oh, so he's just an edge lord. Fuck it. Yeah, he's pretty edgy this. He's not murdering babies. He's murdering like 18-year-olds.

That's grown-ups. So that's two days. Three murders, three rapes. Pretty impressive stuff here, including rape of a corpse. And then a day goes by. Now we're at August 27th. Tracy Paulus, who was 23, sharing an apartment with her roommate. Manny Tobata, also 23.

One night, rolling broke in by prying open the sliding door the same way he got into the other place, and he found Manny sleeping in one of the bedrooms and attacked him. There was a struggle, but he did kill. him. Now, because this is a guy, he wasn't able to get the duct tape on his mouth or anything like that. So Tracy heard the noise. I went down the hall. You're like, hey, what's going on over here? You guys are wrestling? Is there a wrestling match

that I'm missing or something? You know? Because that's what guys like to do? You get in bed and wrestle? Nope. And then she sees, oh, no, it's actually a psycho murderer that's killing my roommate. So she ran back into a room and tried to close the door. And either the whole, here's Johnny bit or he just smashed through the door. This is terrifying, by the way, in case you're not

understanding. Yeah, but this guy looks like such a pussy. Yeah, but he's actually a psychotic serial killer. Yeah, he's terrible. Serial rapist, too. He's an 18-year-old girl. So, yeah, so he got her, he got in there, tied her up, took the clothes off, raped her,

then turned her over and stabbed her three times in the back. After he posed the body and just left, man, he didn't like posing the guys. He just posed the girls. He's like, ah, just leave Manny. Do you do anything else to Manny? How did he kill Manny? Stabbing him. Yeah. Yeah. If you want to pull up the photos of the victims here.

Oh, that'll be fun. Yeah, there they are. So that was in three days, took care of those five people. Our boy has a thing for brunettes. Yes, they all are brunettes with brown eyes similar to his mom. Go figure. What did that bitch do? Might have some mommy issues.

So this is interesting because they had no idea who was doing this. They had no leads. They're not all Jenny jingles. She survived. So Louisiana police alerted Florida authorities to an unsolved triple murder in Shreveport on November 4th, 1989. Out of bounds. Out of bow.

This is not Florida. This occurred just a few months before this. Detectives noted that there were similarities between the Gainesville murders and those so the murders were a 55-year-old Tom Grissom his 24-year-old daughter, Julie, and his eight-year-old grandson, Sean. The family would be attacked in their home

as they were preparing for dinner afterwards. Julie Grinsen's body had been mutilated, cleaned, and posed. Later, it was discussed. number that on August 5th, 1990, Rolling broke into the home of Janet Frank in Sarasota, Florida. What's the body count out? Like eight? Yes, we're at eight. Okay. And then they found out that earlier in that month

that he went on the spree, he actually broke into the home of Janet Frank. He bowed and gagged her with duct tape while he sexually assaulted her, but he didn't kill that one. Huh. So the first one, he kind of let go. Maybe he wanted to go back for seconds or something. That's sad.

I mean, you've got to be happy or alive, but like, I'm not worth killing. I know, right? Well, no, I think he would feel good about that. Like, he probably wanted to rate me again sometime. Good point. Rowling was executed by lethal injection by the Florida State Prison on October 25th, 2006. His crime spree inspired Kevin Williamson to pen the script for the 1996 slasher film Scream. Oh, it's his fault.

This is this guy's fault. Vote for Danny Rowling and Carl at the creepoff.com. Did he ever give a reason why he? He did it all? Yeah, he really enjoyed putting knives into people, and he loved beautiful young girls. It sounds like he didn't love them. Oh, he did. That's why he moved to where he moved to a college area where he had a little campsite right near the campus,

and he can just scope out hot coeds all day. Pretty fun stuff, right? Sounds cool. Like, did it, going to do it, going to do it, wouldn't do it. You know, he just looking around all the hot chicks. well Carl that was pretty good I'll give you that thanks buddy folks it's a competition this week go to the creepoff dot com and vote for whoever you thought brought the bigger creep let's kick it over to our favorite segment of the week it's time for carl's cop cam I can't wait to see Carl's cop cam fight with the cops for no reason will you please show me cause cop cam lose all your Your rights ruin your life

This one came in from Bugle Me This Sending in this cop cam And it's a shorter one But there's more of a story to it So let's start off with my clip number one We're going to meet the The lovely woman

Who will be going to jail today On Sunday March 16th, 2025 Officers from the Downers Grove Police Department Narrated by Claydabber on the 1,300 block of Hughes Avenue in Downers Grove, an affluent village on the outskirts of Chicago, Illinois. This wasn't a routine traffic stop, nor did the person driving the vehicle commit any traffic violations. So, why were they being stopped then? Well, the driver,

30-year-old Christina Formella, a high school teacher, had been the subject of an investigation that had been opened the day prior. The allegations, she allegedly assaulted one of her students, and believed that she was in a relationship with him. Innocent. Yeah. So, innocent smash. This is, oh yeah. This is the, she's the soccer coach for the men's soccer team.

The men's soccer team? The boys, the boys soccer team. And one of the boys needed some help being eligible academically. So she was tutoring him and trying to help him out and do it a little extracurricular. Was it for sex? Oh, I'll show you all it works. Come on. All right.

My clip number two is that I'm going up to this lovely young woman in her car. Okay. You're Christina? Yes. Innocent. Do me favor. Can you step out of the car for me? I know you're confused.

I'll explain everything to you. You don't have anything on you? You can grab whatever you need. Whatever I need. Yeah, whatever you need. Like your phone, your purse is going to grab it? Is she going somewhere? Yeah, we're going to explain everything to you guys.

Okay. So this is different, right? The cops just like, they just follow her home and then just say, okay, grab your stuff. You're coming with us. For what? They don't explain. Well, you'll find out. We'll figure it out at some point.

We just got to, he's got to come with us. Hmm. So this is them heading to the station. She's very confused about because they handcuff her and everything and put her in the car. And they don't tell her why? They don't. Once you get to the police department, you'll talk to the detective and he'll explain everything to you. But you can't even give me like an idea.

At the moment, other than that it's an investigation, that's all I can really tell you right now. I'm sorry. I wish I could tell you more. You know how you're limping right now? It's about that. It's about that. Well, it's a 15-year-old kid.

We're going to find out my next clip. Rock Orby said, someone give this kid the luckiest boy in the year award. Yep. Yep. Well, there's a twist in this. You're going to find out. Uh-oh. Police had identified that in December of 2023, the boy who would have been

years old at the time, had been assaulted by Christina in one of the classrooms. She had met him during football practice, but had found herself giving him one-on-one tutoring lessons by December of 2023. Her police interview hasn't been released to the

public as of yet, but an excerpt has. She denied the allegations made against her and claimed, quote, everybody comes after me because I'm good looking. I'm a good person and care too much for the boy. Oh. So is the Sandusky defense, doesn't it?

No, I just love children. I love to be around children so much. I just really enjoy their company. That wasn't the Sandusky defense. That's what Jerry Sandusky said to Bob Costas. No, he said he tripped in the shower. It's slippery. Carl.

Slippery floor in that shower. She's like, look at you guys are just saying I slept with the student because I'm hot and because I spend a lot of time with the students and I'm hot. That's why you're saying that. Uh-huh. She actually has come out and said, well, I'll tell you what her defense is on this. Okay. She says...

I tripped. She says that she put her phone down and this student picked it up and opened it up, knew what the code was. And then started sending all of these text messages to him, to himself, in order to blackmail her. Because they found all these messages. She said, I didn't write any of that stuff. But let's find out, this is my next clip. she's still confused like what is going

why am I in trouble what is going on right now because this is March of 2025 and you heard that that I went down December of 2023 Is this because I'm hot again?

Yep you guys are doing it because I'm hot again Is that what it is? Am I in trouble? Like I'm so lost right now I'm I'm sure you are

I guess I can't get any fuck right now right now you're made a day All right So she's just kind of like What a day

I'm having Are you kidding me? I got errands to run. I got a movie to watch later and I got to go down to the precinct with you guys. So annoying. Until she finds out why she's being dragged down to the police station in my next clip. Oh, no. I'm just going to put your seatbelt on.

Unless you able to leave it down there. I'm sure you don't want a tissue or something? I'm feeling I'm going to throw. So now she's quite upset about what is going on here and she cries all the way to the police station and I thought she was already in the car on the way to the police station. I know that they, I don't know why they pulled her out, told her then put her back in. Team, Team Tash said, believe all women. Well, we might have to on this one. I do have some more information that just came out.

One more clip first. This is the court order. The judge denied the prosecution's motion to keep Christina detained, and she was released on bail. Her conditions include no contact with anyone under the age of 18, and she isn't allowed to go back into the school. She couldn't go back to the school anyway, because she's also been placed on paid administrative leave amid the investigation. For those of you who want to keep tabs on this case moving forward, her next court appearance is set for April 14th, 2020. So make sure to keep an eye out for that. There should be quite a lot of coverage surrounding this case,

as there already has been leading up to this point. So that's a week from today is she'll be in court. So she's been ordered to stay away from sexy children, but she is out on Bond. For the meantime, there is her lovely mugshot. You want to look at a cute little wine pick of her? She's out with her boyfriend, having a nice glass of wine. Okay, we'll see the pick you have labeled as wine.

Hello, wine, girl. Yep. Mm-hmm. And you have one more? I have one more. Why not? Hold on. Okay. Now, listen to how this went down. What's his, what's his broad's name? Christina.

Christina what? I don't remember. Okay. Shook's Italian. Listen to how this went down. The alleged. You lose points for that. The alleged, what?

What do you have against Italian girls? I know a lot of them. You know my wife's last name, right? Yeah. Okay. You know my. My wife's last name. Yeah, Palino.

No vowels. All right, the original one. The alleged affair was discovered in mid-March when the boy's mother was setting up a new phone for him and saw inappropriate text messages of, oh, yeah, her last name is Formella. Christina Formella. Got it. But she's married. She actually got married after this incident occurred. She got married the next summer.

Oh, that's nice. So the mom is setting up this kid's new iPhone, and, you know, you're sinking everything from the cloud and getting all this stuff. messages and photos and everything like that and she sees this text message and says i love you so much baby even though this morning was short it was perfect and then she followed that up with i love having sex with you she sounds like the perfect woman frankly what she's like it's fine that it was short it was still great yeah so i'm not surprised that this 15 year old is a two-pump chump with this chick she brought him into class before the school day began so we're talking and early in the morning, they're in the classroom getting it on.

That's just incredible. That's a good day. That's a day worth getting up for. You spring out of bed when the alarm goes off. I'm just not doing good in math, Mom. I think I can go back to the tutor. I got to go in real early. So, yeah, so like I said, she claims that the boy unlocked her phone,

sent her all these messages in order to blackmail her. Well, breaking news just came out this past Friday on this case. She kept a memoir in her phone's notes app in which. she accused the teen of cheating on her. So the court is looking through her phone. See, now that's why you don't want to go with the Italian girls, because they always think you're cheating. Yeah, that's true.

They always got a problem. It's always a thing, yeah. Yeah, they're always suspicious. They watch a lot of mob movies. Yeah, this kid's going to learn. So she's 30 now. She was 28 when, uh, when this went down. But she wrote in a lengthy note that she was upset that the disgusting student cheated on me

when their relationship ended. uh we will never be together again she groaned in the note i'm not a second choice i'm the best thing you'll ever have even with all my mistakes so she got this kid this is what's amazing i want to high five this kid this kid bang the hot uh teacher slash coach at school and then it was like all i'm done with that i'm going to get a different girlfriend and she got all fucking jealous yes and on top of that he's a he's a he's a gee because he didn't fucking say a word his mom That's correct. The fucking cell phone.

Yeah. How impressive is that? That's usually the way they get found out with all the bragging going on. Yeah. So, yeah, so that's interesting. She banged a student December of 23 and then March of 25. It gets pulled over and they're like, all right, you're coming with us. So we'll follow that.

I like this story. I think we should follow it. I'm good with it. Okay. I'm good with it. Carl, you ready for some voicemails? Before we do that, we are celebrating Super Chat Monday. The people are celebrating.

I want to celebrate. Let's get to it. Let's do it. Ebnie, thanks for the 499. 1950s Glasgow serial killer, Peter Manuel, was born in Florida, then brought to Glasgow, and it's awful food and weather by Scottish Dad. So went nuts. Yeah, I would do that too. I'm sorry that we were exporting Floridians.

I didn't realize we were doing that. Dude. I'm very sorry. I say, if we're shipping out the Mexicans, we should ship out the Florida people, too. Send them to Mexico. It's not a bad idea, actually. It's not the word's idea.

Send him to El Salvador. We could do that. Yep. I've learned that lately. That's got one, though. Chris Primer, thanks to the Fiver. There's a man who goes by Adonis Paul, who has just released his fourth doc on love notes for TLC. I've followed her from the beginning and her story is wild.

Oh, we're talking about Christine, we're talking about my creep? Most we're talking about your creep, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff about her out there. Joseph Collins, thanks for the 499. Carl's former creep involved in Ghost Adventure Star Murder for hire. Interesting. We'll look into that, my man. And Rocko Warby, thanks to the Fiverr update on Yolanda Saldivar, the woman who killed Selena, parole totally denied. That is accurate. Oh, that's too bad. What you think

they were let that bitch out? Yeah. After she made us subject to Jennifer Lopez, she could rot. Rock or B, thanks for the two. Is Carl's guy the inspiration for Art the clown no he's the inspiration for one of the most annoying dumb movies of all time he's the reason why we know jamy kennedy is if that tells you anything did i tell you i had jamy kennedy on the carlson cast oh did we talk about i don't know if we talked about that on air how did he come off for you a little slow like just just very deliberate in the way he spoke very soft and like mild mannered it was a little different okay uh it's funny i actually got a note from uh chrissey mayor I guess she was just on his show recently.

So I asked if he's as crazy as I think he is, and I did not. She was like, no, he makes perfect sense to me. I did, Chrissy. I'm just kidding. She neither confirmed nor denied. Okay. Fair enough. Carl, voicemails.

Let's do it. Let's do it. The creep off voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse. You should have invested in us. We are already at rock bottom. See you in Syracuse. Buying the dip, Syracuse, New York. All right.

We have so many voicemails this week. Got all you guys call it in. So let's start right here. Yo, just listening to the most recent one on the previous grocery store shooters. You know, kind of kind of. a merge of both of them. I'm from Colorado. And then Eric Harris's brother,

the Columbine guy, he works as a BMW Master Tech, and my buddy's brother got fired because he went up to him and he showed him a video of the Buffalo shooter, you know, the fucking live stream or whatever. He was like, yeah, see, he didn't kill the white guy

or whatever. But anyway, you two are pretty cool. Don't come to school tomorrow. All right. Thanks. Uh-oh. Can that please be? Folks, from now on, you can end with, thank you, fucking buyer. You guys are pretty cool.

Don't come to school tomorrow. Those are both phenomenal sign-offs. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. He was losing me for a second there. Yeah, I hear you. Get it, Carlino. This is Jebeda-Hudson of the Ku Klux plan.

Oh, Lord. Hey, buddy. I was very disappointed to see the... We were late. creep you brought. I suppose I should have expected you as an Italian to side

with your fellow non-whites. But I was very happy to see our brother Carl 6 million more hamburgers bringing in an A-Rab. We look forward to having him speak at our

next meeting. Goodbye. All right, I'll see it the meeting, but can you guys please vote? Two? I mean, it's the least you can do, right? Maybe. Another Carl supporter here. Oh, good. Vinny, I normally vote for you because mostly I just love watching Carl suffer.

Plus, this presentation usually suck. But I can't vote for you this week, man. Yeah, I'm white, so I'm not afraid of your creep. Your creep wouldn't kill me. So I'm going to have to vote for Carl this week. Sorry, man. You should vote for, you should have voted for me, and I'm glad I had prevailed. principle, that you should just murder people because of the color of their skin.

Thank you. Thank you. I have a voicemail, Benny. Okay. Message for the creep off. Carl, everyone's right. You really don't bring it. St. Patrick's Day, you bought an actual saint as a creep, you fucking idiot.

The basketball one, you seriously, you found someone that shot at a drug dealer. You couldn't find anyone who even did some rapes. I mean, Carl, you're not bringing creeps. You're just not. You're failing, mate. I've been advocating week after week for people to vote for you at the creepoff.com, but you're just, you're giving me nothing other than you are much more likable than Vinny. Correct.

There's a reason to vote for Carl right there. Thank you, Boner Guy, 69. I don't know, man. Maybe you are more likable than me. That's fine. I'd still rather take being disliked and not spinning the wheel. Obviously not. But vote for Carl this week.

I brought it this week for The Creepoff.com. Another person yelling at May. You know, I've been looking for something to listen to today. So I'm like, you know, let me finally be a member of the Creepoff. Nice. Going to Super Cash, load it up, load up Scum stream. And in the first two minutes, you insult your listeners, calling them all creeps. Well, yeah.

I'm a father. I donate money to charity I'm a active member of my community and I'm a male nurse How dare you, Vincent? Vote for Carl Vote for Carl Don't do it, don't do it

We love you creeps It's a term of endearment on the creepoff We have so many voicemails Sorry if we don't get to all of them today folks But Olive Garden Waitress OGW is here She likes anal Hello, this is Olive Garden Waintress

I'm back at old garden my hands feeling a lot better so the stories will continue and I got a good one for you today I was walking by and some man specified that he just wanted his food moist okay I'm gonna pause it right there the man just wanted his food moist sure the only way that's creepy is if he's if he did it like that old joke about coffee no what's that I like my coffee the way I like my women you know black or you say like I like my women like I like my food moist I know I feel like that that qualifies him for the creep of the week um he just really really wanted moist food I don't know bro I'm sorry but anyway um I have I have an idea for a consequence Anytime.

Whoever sins and gets his confidence has to drive to Massachusetts and you at my old garden and I get to serve you whatever I want. Anyway, I know Carl might do that regardless, considering he loves him now. Anyways, bye. O.G.W. and Carl sitting in a tree. I think she's flirting with us there.

You get to feed us whatever you want. That sounds ominous, doesn't it? Yeah. I don't like the sound of that. Come. It's that weird guy's hemorrhoids or something. Joseph Collins, since Vinny has track suits 100-yard dash on the wheel, 49. I can do 100-yard dash.

All right. I bet you I'd beat you in 100-yard dash. Interesting. I might. Interesting. I don't know. See you got some speed. No, I don't, but I just know your feet are completely fucking ridiculous.

I know that it's hard to run with Velociraptor Clause. Yeah, you know I used to play soccer, right? Told you about that? Well, Carl, Airbud used to play basketball. Fair enough. Good point. I want me to tell you. Okay, you'll probably beat me. All right, let's move on.

Let's do a Scum parade. Ready for that, Carl? Let's go. Let's do it. Skull parade. Take me on a raid of these fuck charades. Let these creeps. have made skum parade viddy and carl gonna tell you about some fuck shit scum parade like stories of a kid fucked by his mom or dad soaking up the blood of a cat scum

parade uh the one pun keep keeps got a club foot means he's starting a position in any race Ah, I hit the wrong one. I meant this one. The club foot kicked the soccer ball like a hammer. Hell yeah. I believe that. And like Beckham, baby. That is officially the gayest thing you've ever said.

I disagree. Okay. I've said a lot of things. I want to introduce you to one of my new favorite creeps of all time. This is Matthew Fortner. And we're going to Campbell County, West Virginia. He's a grave digger with a violent criminal past. He's been arrested.

after remains of a baby boy buried for over four decades were found desecrated in the local cemetery. Okay, yeah, this is an interesting story. I have some thoughts on this, but tell the people what happened here. Okay, so his job is digging graves. He's a grave digger. And he's digging a hole. Sure. And he allegedly struck an old casket in the place where he was supposed to be putting the new person.

Right. So what he does is this is the resting place. place of a five-day-old infant who died 1982, mind you. Right. Is somehow he pulls the casket out by himself, gets it out, and the body of this infant somehow comes out of the casket.

And what he does is he takes the casket itself and throws it over a hill so nobody will see it. Yeah, let's get this out of here. I got shit to do. I got grave to dig. But whether he knew the baby's body fell out, or whether he didn't, the baby's body fell the

fuck out and was discovered by an elderly couple there who were decorating the cemetery for Easter decoration. Okay, here's my thoughts on this. Who fucking cares? This baby should never have been buried in the first place. It's five days old, and we're burying it in the ground. Doesn't have

a personality. No one knows if they like him or not or anything. And it was in 1982. No one even knows whose baby this is. The mob was probably deceased by now. Who gives this shit about this? And honestly, why are we still doing this anyway? I agree. George Carlin, what is this?

How long are we going to keep freaking putting people in the ground and taking up valuable real estate with this nonsense? It's a good point. But Carl, he didn't pick up at, I mean, he just threw the casket over a hill. It's a baby. It's a dead baby. The baby's been dead for 40 years. What kind of shape could it be in?

Who cares? Mushy? Yes. It's nothing. Could you imagine the fun surprise enough for these old people coming around with their stupid Easter eggs? What do they think you're going to find in the cemetery? There's going to be a couple dead babies laying around. So this happens.

This guy spent 10 years in a kid for murder. He was prone in 2007. He was charged with displacement of a dead body and withholding information. He pleaded not guilty and was released on bond. If convicted, five years in prison, Carl. That's ridiculous. This guy is a reformed citizen. He got his life together.

He got a job. He's working a job now after being convicted of murder. It's not an easy thing to do. And now they're going to be mad at them because he chucked a baby that died 40 years ago. Who cares? I really just don't see how there is a victim. this. It's so stupid. I love how this motherfucker is just like, quit and tab.

Yeah, right. He was told to dig at a place, and then there was a thing there. He's like, fuck, get this out of here. I'm supposed to dig in this place. Oh, man. All right. That's a hot take, Carl. I don't have a problem with this guy at all. I don't think he's a creep. Okay. All right. Matthew Fortner,

we're supporting you on this one. Carl, let's talk about a funeral that happened in Brazil this past week. This is awesome. Gang members set fire to a Rival's coffin in a brazen retaliation. This is what I'm talking about cremation, Benny. This is why you're supposed to do.

Creamate the body. Poor Ludo. Poor Ludo. So this is cool shit, man. Brazil's way cooler than U.S. apparently because the gang members are going and setting fires of the caskets of rivals a day after they die. It's awesome. A funeral turned into a.

a nightmare trade. When gang members set fire to the rival's cough and the wake was being held for a young man who had been killed the day before in a police shootout, part of a larger failed ambush attempt by his gang against a rival faction. The attackers were met with police resistance and three gang members, including the deceased, were fatally shot. As mourners gathered to pay their respects, four members of the rival gang stormed the somber gathering. They issued threats and then proceeded to set the coffin ablaze. One of the attackers, an 18-year-old girl, suffered burns to his... Oh, I'm sorry, an 18-year-old suffered burns to his face

and had to be hospitalized. Yeah, you know what happened is the dummy who poured the gasoline poured way too much, they always do. Yep. And he lived on fire and splasted himself at the face, fucking idiots. They are idiots, because they were all four of them

arrested the same day. Yes. The teen has been charged with desecrating a corpse, arson, organized crime activity and corruption of a minor. Authorities are continuing the investigation to determine the full extent of the criminal conspiracy

behind the violent act. Okay, Vinny. Yo. This story is bonkers. Agreed. If you think about why this person was dead in the first place, the day before there was a shootout with the cops. It was supposed to be these two gangs going to war, but the cops got involved and the cops

are picking these people off as they're trying to shoot each other. So I went, who the fuck would want to be a cop in Brazil? It must pay a shit ton of money. Did you look it up? I did. How much? What do you think a cop in Brazil gets paid? Now that you know how dangerous their job is.

What kind of salary do you think they're getting? What's the, do they have, are we talking dollars here? I converted it. Okay, okay. I converted it for us. $30,000 a year, a hut and a virgin. No virgin, nope. Very close.

They average $2,100 a month, which is about $25,000 a year to do this job. Okay. I'd rather just like, no hut? I had no hot Just the money And you get shot at by crazy people Rocker Orby Thanks 2002 thanks to the Fiver

Once in Mexico I witnessed a gang shoot up A burial because the rival is getting buried In their turf This is par for the course Oh interesting Yeah It could have been a turf thing Wait you saw that Rocker B

That's pretty cool That's fucking tits I don't want to be there for it But I'd like to watch the video Yeah All right Carl I got another creep for you This fun handsome guy He is a

A neighbor in the UK He's the neighbor of this woman He'd been living next to her for about 15 years His name's Pete Tomlinson And where to start here He moved in 15 years early Quickly became a well-liked figure in the community Claiming he had been imprisoned

Over a misunderstanding involving a girl he thought was of age He lost his wife and his daughter I hate when that happens He gained the sympathy of neighbors who offered him odd jobs and support. He became especially close with a single mother nearby, often helping her with pets and spending times with her kids who were 10 and 11.

But the mother's trust was shattered when she noticed cash missing and asked Tomlinson to install security cameras. Wrong choice. She thought Tomlinson stole money from her, so she had Tomlinson put cameras in? She didn't know who stole the money. She wasn't suspecting Tomlinson.

This guy was like a neighborhood handyman. You know, the child rapist who lives down the street who does odd jobs because he can't get a real. It was a misunderstanding. He thought she was 18. And they have sympathy for him. So she hires him to come in and install these cameras. Okay. What she found when reviewing the footage stunned her.

He had not only stolen from her, but he had also been spying on her family and recording them naked and using the bathroom. Yeah, why? So there's cameras in the bathroom, too? Hidden cameras. Uh-huh. Later caught Tomlinson tampering with the devices and stealing the memory cards. Police uncovered over 2,000 images and videos of the mother, some of which were

incredibly invasive, basically her sitting on the toilet. Worst is, it emerged that Thompson had lied about his past. What he had done with that girl, he, you know, was a misunderstanding. Yeah. It was his own eight-year-old daughter. Oh, boy. Yeah. That's not good.

Yeah. So, long story short, this woman is looking at the camera feed and all of a sudden she sees one of his face. There's videos of the bathroom. How do I put this? there was a live feed going on this and for some reason his face just showed up on it so she's like this is fucking crazy

and gets her kids involved they call the police the police go to his house or she set up a sting where she went to a hotel and was watching the feed and this guy came in and started stealing the SD cards she caught him live doing that he thought he was getting away with it because if he took it and erased it from the card

she wouldn't be able to see it he didn't think she knew how to see the live stream from it So the cops then go and search his house and they find the 2,000 images. He pleaded guilty to unauthorized access to computer material and only got 16 months for this. Do you think it's because one of the things that the mom accused him of doing was looking at her two sons naked, they're 10 and 11 year old boys. Do you think it's kind of annoyed? Well, if they get out of the way.

Roy, do you think he's kind of annoyed that it's just like, I'm not a gay child molester. I'm just a child molester. What's wrong with you? Do either of these boys look like my daughter? Yeah. I don't care about your sons. They're gross. All right.

I was trying to let watch you poop. That's my main goal. I mean, what the fuck? I got to be like that. Oh, all right. Very offensive. He did have 40 rehab sessions, so those probably worked. That'll probably do it.

It's good that the UK does that. They really know how to put in the extra effort. Well, Carl. Our last story of the day, this is a landmark case out of Australia. It's horrified the global tech and legal communities. An Australian man has been sentenced to 11 years in prison for creating and distributing a video game centered on child sexual abuse. See, the video game should have been centered on getting away with it. You know what I mean?

Like avoiding police. You have to get the hard drives to point A to the finish line. You have to actually erase the hard drives so the forensic accountants can't get to it. Kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids. Alex Steven West, he's a 32-year-old father from Jake Geelong, turned his twisted fantasy into a full-time business, developing and regularly updated a game that simulated the grooming and abuse of life-like child characters. I told Todd Youngman about the story earlier, a guy who works at the office. He goes, I said, he made a video game of, like, abusing essaying children, and he was like, oh, like Mario Kart?

He's like, no, not like Mario. Nothing like Markert. This is more like Choose Your Own Adventure. Yeah, it's more like Sims where you're a child molester. How do you advertise a game like this? I don't see this on my Instagram feed. Fun good. That's probably for the best.

Yeah, I don't know how you get that. I guess it's word of mouth. I'm 100% sure this is word of mouth. West managed two websites where the game was hosted and earned nearly $900,000 in subscriptions from users around the world. Dude, ESO Doe was wasting his tie with the Shulie Network, producing the Shulis show. He could have been making like a million bucks,

making a video game. What an idiot. Yeah, that's why he was stupid. Yep. Oh, man. This guy, at the time of his arrest, 3,000 people were actively subscribed. Okay.

I don't know how many of those were, like, people who, like, subscribed and forgot about it and, like, reoccurring, but. I think that's one of the bills that you would keep track of. Yeah. I would imagine. Although the game did not depict real children, and it was designed to be disturbingly realistic.

The investigators later found hundreds of actual child abuse images and voyeuristic footage of women taken without consent through their bedroom windows. Oh, good. Well, that's a normal thing. He's filming women through the window? I mean, right? When you're like, okay, good, yeah, that's what the guys do right there. Technically, it's progress.

It's progress. But it's frowned upon progress. You know what they don't say in this article? I was kind of annoyed. Is the game fun? It seems like, I mean, it's been online for 12 years. He's got a lot of subscribers, a lot of downloads. He's always doing updates.

Is it a fun game? It's a lot of people subscribe. Are there reviews somewhere I can read? It just doesn't explain whether it's a good game or not. Well, supposedly they believe that this game was downloaded possibly millions of times. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. His home was raided by the joint anti-child exploitation team in 2023,

and over 145,000 images and videos were found on his devices. Kind of changes the meaning of Candy Crush. certainly does it certainly does he pled guilty he showed no remorse he was sentenced to 11 years and seven months in prison will be eligible for parole after serving eight years and four months the judge described him as quote an evil entrepreneur the question i sounds like he needs an evil lawyer will there be someone keeping the updates going so that it works on uh newer operating system why would you want to know that because there's another guy in canada that he was working with for tech support? Is he going to keep the game going? Or what are they going to do?

I would imagine it's shut down, Carl. Okay. All right. Listen, they don't tell you everything in these articles sometimes. Sometimes I follow up questions. It's poorly written. A lot of this is poorly poorly written. You know what is not poorly written? Your super chats, everybody. Sometimes they are, but we appreciate that because it is Super Chat Monday. And we love when you guys communicate with us through the Super Chat system. So thank you for all of those today. I think we had some that we read. Yep. Because you skipped one there. Did I? Yeah. Yeah, there it is. Johnny Bukaki. I like my woman like my coffee, ground up and in the freezer. And then there's Hamilton Burger. Yeah. Sugarfoot versus Snagglefoot in a hundred yard dash. Snagglefoot.

Sugarfoot. It's a pretty good nickname. I'll take it. Old Sugarfoot, Paulino they call me. Oh, Carl, what a fun episode we had today. You could go to the creepoff.com. The voting is to be up at some point after this episode, probably in the next 15 to 20 minutes or so. I forgot to update him before the show. Danny Rowling, everybody. Vote for Carl and Danny Rowling. Vote for Vinny and Christine Falling because she smothered babies to death.

And that one old guy who's just trying to give her a job. Don't trust slow people. So don't trust Vinny. Got it. Good point. Good to know. All right. It's nice to be important.

It's more important to be nice. Let's get the... Oh, Point Dabble Point at 4 o'clock on the Who are these podcast channel. It's going to be a great episode today. Vinny might be there. Everyone's swinging by. I don't care. I don't care.

Everyone's swinging by because we got Dabble House cut up this weekend. So, Vinny, I'm putting together a nice package for us for Point Dabble Point. We're going to be checking out the day after the date. Do you remember John went with Kate Mini to a Mexican restaurant and then to a friend's house and then out to a strip club

and then back to Kate's house. He spent the night and didn't leave until one the next day. Yeah, in the chair. And he goes on with Clay Dabbler the next day and is very braggadocious about his big night with his big date with Kate Meaney. And I thought it would be fun to remind everyone how John's demeanor was back then because we're going to hear some phone calls coming up this weekend, dabblecon. Live, where it's a very different version of what took place.

Oh, I cannot wait. It's going to be great. All right, folks. We'll see you at Dabel House. Until then, it's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Gagia. What the hell is he supposed to be?

You gotta love Vinnie Carlina.