The Creep Off - Episode 275: Friends in Low Places

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

This week’s category: Creepiest Siblings. We’ve all had issues with our brothers or sisters—but Karl and Vinnie bring stories of siblings who took things to a whole different level.Don�...��t forget to vote for who brought the biggest creep at thecreepoff.com.  Check out this week’s scum parade stories here: Chuck E. Cheese Arrested On Felony Credit Card Charges | The Smoking GunShanarial Johnson dupes prospective adoptive parents $10KFelony Charge Sticks In Glue Contamination | The Smoking GunTeen who mutilated & killed two kittens with girl, 16, in twisted bid to 'reduce his desire to murder human' is jailed | The SunThe score is currently Vinnie 1 - Karl 1 – Guest 4 visit thecreepoff.com to vote and decide this week’s winnerWant more of the madness? Support the show on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to snag exclusive merch and get an extra bonus episode every week!Don’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108You can follow our Results girl Danni on Instagram @Danni_Desolation

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the Carl Network. Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't any of these type of things. If you're a kid, don't get on here, okay? See, that's how you do a disclaimer. You tell the kids that get out to fuck off the damn page. I'm going to give the people what they want.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, coo, coo. Disgusting, vomit-inducing thing. Oh, la creepos. Welcome to another episode of your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps by creeps for you creeps. I'm your host.
Starting point is 00:01:11 My name is Vinny. And joining me, as always, the ying to my yang. I don't know. You're the opposite of me. I'm great. You're terrible. It's Carl. Hey, what's going on, Vinnie, Paulino?
Starting point is 00:01:24 I'm just waiting to hear my name. You're setting up introducing me. So I'm just waiting for the name to be. said that's fine we're good good afternoon buddy how's your weekend my weekend was great carl it's been uh it's exciting to be back here on a super chat monday welcome everybody to the show yes it's going to be an exciting one we're going to uh hit up our results in just a little bit but before we get to that i just want to take a minute and uh plug something i'm doing tonight okay a friend of the show invited me on we'll be doing a couple of creeps uh stories with our pal pat dixon tonight oh awesome yeah
Starting point is 00:01:57 Pat's back on YouTube, right? Yeah, yeah, 8 o'clock tonight. I'm excited to jump back on there. I like how, you know, Cardiff got banned from YouTube, got his channel removed. And Carver just like, I'll just start another channel. And everyone just kind of went, yeah, well, let's just start new channel. Everyone who's got banned from YouTube just started up a new channel and just started doing it again. Yeah, I was really, like, upset about everything that was going on with subreddit surfing last year.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Right. Canceling us and stuff like that. Yeah. Now I'm like, what the fuck was wrong with me? But that's cool. Pat Dixon, of course, New York City Crime Report. He's been on the show before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:28 And he was on our roast, the roast of Carl and Vinny. Yeah, he's been a good friend of the creep off. So I want to make sure to give him that plug out of the gate take because I would forget. I'm terrible remembering these things. But Carl, let's get down to business. Today's show is a competition. Would you like to explain the rules to all of our new listeners? That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:44 This is a true crime show for guys. It's the only one that exists. A true crime show that's made for the guys. And the reason why guys like it is because it is a competition every week. Vinny and I bring who we think is the biggest. creep in a certain category. This week we're going with creepiest sibling. And then you find people after hearing who we bring.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Go to the creepoff.com. You vote for who you thought brought the biggest creep. We have our results, girl, tally up the results and let us know the next week. Who won? Whoever won gets a point. When you get to five points, the round is over, the loser has to spin. That dreaded wheel of consequences. Right back there.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And I have a consequence looming over me right now. I have to go to an open mic and perform Stuttering John stand-up act. Yeah, man. I got to tell you so many consequence suggestions have been coming in lately. I sent you one of them over the weekend. I liked that one. I liked that one a lot. It was you have to go out a date to a restaurant with a real doll or like just a straight
Starting point is 00:03:37 up blow up doll. Just bring down their order and meal. I get a little doll for this show. But yeah, just a blow up doll. Sit down, order in a meal. Have a nice time. I thought of a really funny one that we could throw on there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:47 When I get to five and you have to spin. Right. Settle with Stuttering John. Just make him an offer. No, no, you have to settle with whatever he says. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fun. Nobody tell him.
Starting point is 00:04:02 That's a fun one. Oh, ruin it. Dude, I went on the Dick show yesterday. I listened. You were great. Oh, it's so funny because I forget that people don't know how ridiculous this whole saga was with Kate Meaney and John falling for it twice and being humiliated so much. So just the pure joy of Dick and I'm explaining that he fell for it again and there are all these new tapes that were recorded. He had no idea.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And that's going to be the interesting. part. The judge's face when he's to be like, wait, so wait, wait, I don't even think this thing's to get in front of a judge. I think it's not I'm getting dismissed. Oh, well, it has to get dismissed by a judge. It will get in front of a judge. Okay, well, I mean, like, not like a, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:40 a whole fun day in court the way we want. We'll see, buddy. We shall see. All right. What do I know? I'm here for the right. All I've been doing is talking to attorneys every fucking day nonstop for the last week. What do I know? I didn't say, what do you know? I know that. I'm saying what do I know anything? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I don't have any opinions. I don't know anything. So let's talk Turkey. He's got a really well-written case I've heard. Yeah, Aaron Nimthold, let me know that it's ironclad, and I'll definitely be destitute. It's terrible. Bummer. Just one house then, or?
Starting point is 00:05:14 Maybe zero houses. Do you know anyone like that? Homeless? I'll be hanging with Curtis Jones. I don't know if you're homeless, though, if you're homeless. Okay. Carl, guess what? what ladies and gentlemen here to tell us who won last week's competition it was a three-way dance between carl myself and anthony zenhauser from the shuling network it's the lovely danny hello dany hi guys what's up oh nothing nothing's going on oh how are things with you danny you look lovely today oh thank you sorry to hear john actually
Starting point is 00:05:56 got through with the loss Oh, thank you. That's nice of you to say. 600,000. Yeah, you know what? All this money was weighing down my pockets anyway. I'll be walking around a lot lighter and more carefree. Yeah, because you call what you do with those feet
Starting point is 00:06:12 walking. All right. Danny, last week was Creepiest Canadian round two. Let's find out those results. All right. Creepiest Canadian, 49% of the vote goes to Anthony and Fergie Oliver. Get the fuck out of here. Zenhauser got half of the vote.
Starting point is 00:06:32 There's three of us. How the hell do that happen? I went a harden the fucking paint last week, too. Yeah, you did. You're telling me, you peep, you creeps out there, you voted for the guest to fuck Carl and me? Unbelievable. I know I won that shit. You know what?
Starting point is 00:06:48 The only thing that makes me happy about this is it now it proves that it's not just that they dislike me on the show. They just like both of us on this show. That makes you feel a little bit better. I'm what they call the lesser of two evils. Correct. Yes. You're the reason why Trump beat Hillary. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah. Pretty much. Pretty much. Everybody knows you're terrible. So Carl, that puts the guests at four. We're still tied at one. Oh, boy. So if a guest gets to five, this is the official rulebook now that I'm reading from.
Starting point is 00:07:18 When a guest gets to five total wins, we have to do a dude. dual consequence. I believe one of them was riding a tandem bicycle. Yeah, we had to do that. That sucks so much. That's adorable. Yeah, Vita yelled at me a lot that day. Well, then the day after, everyday sense.
Starting point is 00:07:37 True. Good point. You know what I just realized? What's that? I'm not going to be here next week. You're going to be facing someone. Oh, shit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Which means that there could be. If you lose next week, then I got to do a fucking consequence to. I don't know if that's true. I'll consult the official rule book on that. I need a ruling, Fisker. I need a ruling from the commissioner of Major League Creep off. Yeah, we'll have to take a look at that. Oh, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Okay. Thank you, Danny. Danny Desolation on Instagram. They're looking, I mean, you're looking lovely today. Thank you for coming and joining us. We'll see you soon. You know, Danny brightens my day. I talk about this a lot lately, Vinnie.
Starting point is 00:08:18 When I'm prepping for the show in the morning, it's some gruesome shit I'm going through. the stories that you said me, the creeps that I'm researching, kind of bums me out, brings me down a little bit. And then we come on and we see Danny and she's all perky. And it's just like, all right, things are going to be okay. Things are going to be okay. I agree.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Carl, they're not, though. We have to do a category. We have to do a competition right now. Okay. I want to explain the category to everybody. This one was a silly idea from me. Creepiest sibling, you know, the sibling, the crime. has to be committed on the other sibling.
Starting point is 00:08:54 That is the rule. So somebody who's a terrible brother or a terrible sister to their siblings. So you won the last round that we played. Zen's not here. So that means you get to go first today. Do you want to ring the bell, Carl? Let's go. I brought in Connor Gibson out of the UK.
Starting point is 00:09:14 So him and his sister, Amber, they were brought up in foster care. They were adopted. by Craig and Carol Niven when they were at the ages of three and five. And it didn't really stick. They kind of bounced around the foster care system for a while. But their biological father,
Starting point is 00:09:34 Peter Gibson, he wasn't a great guy. Oh, what'd he do? Well, he sexually assaulted two young boys and assaulted and raped a woman all between 2001 and 2008. So he was doing time in prison and that's why they didn't have a father to raise them.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Are you saying they have bad jeans? That is what I'm saying. I get it. City, sweetie. I know. I'm following the news from three weeks ago. All right. Fast forward to November of 2021.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Amber is living in a town's hill house children's home. She's 16 years old. Okay. And Gibson is staying at the Blue Triangle Homeless Hostel in Hamilton. He's 21 years old. And they decide, hey, I haven't seen it a little bit. Sis, we should get together. She's like, yeah, that'd be great. I'd love to get together with my big brother. And so they decide to go and meet up. And my clip number one, I think, is going to
Starting point is 00:10:32 explain what happened at that fun meetup they had. Amber Gibson never knew her brother's murderous intentions in these final moments of her life, lured to a secluded spot, a sister killed by her own brother. In November 2021, Connor Gibson enticed his simple. to her death, removed her clothes in this park, sexually abused her, inflicted blunt force trauma, and then strangled her. Jesus. That's not great. It's pretty rough, right?
Starting point is 00:11:05 Oh, man. So it's like, hey, we're going to just get together a sibling, brother and sister. We don't live together anymore. And then he's just like, yeah, what about this, though? What if I have sex with you and when you're not willing, obviously? And then I beat the crap out of you and eventually just wrangle you to death and leave you there. Oh, is that the creepiest sibling? Where did that come from? I don't know. Why did my brother just show up on the screen? I closed the wrong window. You just
Starting point is 00:11:30 spoil a joke for later? Well, he keep harping on it, maybe. All right. So, unfortunately, for Connor, he did a little bit of sloppy work as we're going to find out my next clip here. He'd been staying at this homeless unit where he was filmed disposing of his blood-soaked clothes. Moments before. his arrest, he posted this chilling Facebook message. We all miss you, especially me. Throughout this trial, the jury heard just how vulnerable Amber Gibson was. She'd spent much of her life in foster care and was living in a children's home at the time of her killing. And the jury was told the one person that she should have trusted was her brother, Connor Gibson,
Starting point is 00:12:15 who sat in the dock throughout the whole of the proceedings with no reaction and no remorse. Yikes. All right. So he murders his sister and leaves her in the park with no clothes on. Stephen Corrigan is walking by the next day. Doopo doopo doepo doepo see the body. Oh, shit. There's a dead girl right here, dead 16 year old girl.
Starting point is 00:12:40 But rather than alert the police, he decides, I can probably get with this bitch. That's right. One of the chances someone discovers your body just so happens to be a necrophiliac. This girl really was having a bad week Well, when you just leave The bodies out on the street like that Carl You're bound and one's bound to stumble upon it Yeah, no, I understand that
Starting point is 00:13:00 I'm just saying Chances are most people wouldn't want to have sex with the corpse But this poor girl Was discovered by a guy who did And then listen to this video You want to hear about some A Hard Knock of Life All right
Starting point is 00:13:13 Just a few months before this happened in June of 2021 This guy Jamie Stars Assaulted and raped Amber While she was unconscious she woke up pants are off she's getting Cosby she's like what the fuck Jamie Sowers was
Starting point is 00:13:26 sentenced to 10 and a half years for that so this girl's having a rough year like it's no sweet 16 so for this girl people just can't resist this girl well she's very cute live or dead they can't resist this girl she's very cute the the judge was not
Starting point is 00:13:41 pleased with Connor's actions and I have some clips I'm gonna go to skip to number four this is the sentencing of Connor well you've been convicted of the physical and sexual assault and murder of your younger sister, Amber Niven, as she liked to be known. Like you, she had not had the best start in life, being fostered and then residing in a children's home. She also had to deal with having been raped. She would
Starting point is 00:14:09 have looked to you as a big brother for support. She was looking forward to meeting up with you on the night she was murdered. She even posted a selfie of both of you on. Snapchat. Aw, she's all excited. Me and big bro are hanging out together. Selfie posting it. That's the worst. I know.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And a little bit more of the judge's sentencing here because I think he makes a good point by clip five. The last person she saw alive was you, her brother, strangling a life out of her, having beaten her up and tried to wake her. What you did was truly evil. What he did was truly evil. vote for Carl Connor Gibson
Starting point is 00:14:51 at the creepoff.com creepiest sibling. You don't get worse than that. Your brother rapes you and then murders you. It leaves you there to get your corpse taken advantage of.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Yeah, that's not a lot. That's not being a thoughtful sibling. It's not. If you weren't raised that way, I could promise you that. Carl, pretty good.
Starting point is 00:15:11 That was pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good. Thank you. Well, I am not happy about losing two weeks in a row,
Starting point is 00:15:18 everybody so do yourselves a favor sit back and uh relax okay he's this is cocky vinny calling his shot right now go for me right now dude my creep is even creepier than the worst brother that i've ever met this guy right here this guy's the worst brother ever yeah yeah why does he have a dolphin's cup in his hand where did you find this no that's his only redeeming quality is this photoshopped or something did car no let's talk about my real creep i'm sorry i'm just fucking around with you uh this guy this kid this kid's name is Paris Paris Bennett now he has a genius level IQ 141 wow yeah he is also a complete psychopath he was not completely weird though like he wasn't one of those weird ones he was very like articulate and he could have a conversation with you and people said he was like deceptively
Starting point is 00:16:09 charming he looks weird agreed many just adults were describing as like a nice young man mature beyond his years that's he looks like he sings for an emo band but they're not that good. Yeah. Like, uh, I got fucking emo bands. I got nothing.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I was looking for, I was searching my memory banks for an emo band. Nothing. Tim Poole is what you wanted to say. Like Tim Poole. That's right. Things for an evil band, but they're not very good.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Uh, his mom, Charity Lee was a recovering heroin addict, Carl. That's good. Whose past actions in, uh, childhood caused him to go to foster care.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Four years, uh, before this though, before the events that we're going to talk about. You know, he's 13 years old in 2007, and his mom got clean from drugs. He's no longer in protective care. He's at home. His mom's working.
Starting point is 00:17:00 She decides to ruin it all and have a baby sister. Yeah, Ella. So in 2007, Ella's four years old. And Paris was very upset, just in general. He felt betrayed by his mother because he found out that she had relapsed and done some cocaine with somebody. Oh, come on. Well, I mean, it's just a little blow, whatever. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:21 He's already pissed off. He has to have to share his mom with a sister, who the mother is taking great care of, by the way. Oh, good. She's doing a great job with the sister. Loves the sister a lot. This kid has a lot of resentment. 141 IQ. He's in his own head a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:35 He's pretty fucking crazy. So his new hobby is internet porn 13 years old. Okay. That's a fun hobby. Yeah, and his mother keeps fine catching him, you know, cranking one out on family computer, which is a problem back then, uh, for a lot of families I would wager. And it got a little weirder than that because the stuff he was watching at 13 was all BDSM. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Like really hardcore, massacistic stuff. Probably not great for a 13 year old. Right. Right. So, you know, even though he's 13, I thought you're going to tell me he's watching the step sister stuff, because that would be bad too, but okay. Yeah. You would hope that he's just watching like lesbians. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:16 If you catch your kid watching lesbians, high-five them. Yes, that is wholesome entertainment right there. I agree. Right. So she's got this little sociopath at home watching creepy porn. She's got a four-year-old daughter, and she has a job of Buffalo Wild Wings, Carl. Nice. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I wonder if she knows Olive Garden Waitress. They probably go to the same club. Super Bowl Sunday, February 4th, 2007. Charity has to work at the Buffalo Wild Wings all night, Carl. Yeah, it's a big day for that. So she hired a sitter to stay at home with the kids. Imagine watching the cerebral of Buffalo Wild Wings. What kind of a fucking loser?
Starting point is 00:18:52 What kind of a friend group would you need to have? I'm sorry, I'm probably calling people out who are watching right now. I'd rather go there that's Stevie Tomatoes. Yeah, that's a good point. So, Carl, they got a bit, his mom gets a babysitter, keeping an eye on this kid. And this kid's being a charming pants to her, helping her with everything, being all nice and sweet. And around 10 o'clock, he says to her, hey, babe, why don't you kick off early to height to the sitter i got things i'm 13 i'm the man of the house my sister she's asleep i got this
Starting point is 00:19:23 uh oh and uh this babysitter was like all right oh boy that's not good took him up on it oh boy right right it fucked up yeah it's not great so uh now he's alone with the sister that he hated what does he do caro he uh goes and watches some online porn then he starts googling things like snuff film a whole bunch of times. And then around 11.30, about a half hour, you know, 1130 midnight, he sneaks into his four-year-old sister Ella's room. And that's where he violently assays her and stabbed her 17 times. The stabbing was described as slow and methodical, not frenzied, not uncontrollable rage. There were also a lot of shallow jabs and punctures.
Starting point is 00:20:15 When he later described as a detectives, he said he would pull this knife out slowly and he felt like it was stabbing a mattress or a, quote, marshmallow. So what do you do after you, you know, come down from that high of fucking getting off on your four-year-old sister by murdering her? Well, I would hope that he would have at least finished. He's not like carmacks. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, what would you do if you're 13 and you're.
Starting point is 00:20:45 you got laid. I'd probably check to see if my sports bets came through on the Super Bowl. No. You know, I got a lot of prop bets and stuff. Like, how many yards did the receiver have? I don't even know. He calls a kid in class to brag. Okay. Hey, man, I got laid tonight. Oh, boy. Oh, by the way, I murdered my little sister, too. I raped, murdered my little sister. Mm-hmm. This fucking little sicko. Yeah. And I don't know if she's dead or not, but, you know, she's whatever and this friend was like why are you calling me and telling me this you should call the police he's like oh yeah good idea
Starting point is 00:21:19 so he calls the cops also lose my number right also block he calls 911 and a panic this 141 intellect this fucking genius kid calls 911 and tries to convince them
Starting point is 00:21:35 that he's crazy and that he's like my sister she turned in to a pumpkin had a demon and it was on fire and I had to fight and now she's really hurt and I don't know man I don't know what happened I put some paper in my mouth earlier and now everything's a demon yeah right right sure so the cops show up and they find this poor little girl well here's the other thing the operator the 911 operator Carl is like listen we want you to give her CPR we need you to
Starting point is 00:22:04 help here and she starts giving him the instructions on how to do it and he's just going oh yeah yeah oh yeah oh yeah one two three Nothing. I'm just, this is really morbid, but I'm just picturing him pounding her chest and just blood squirting out of every fucking stab hole. Like, that's not going to help. She's bleeding to death. I don't think CPR is going to do it. He literally was just pacing around the room pretending he was doing what people on them to do.
Starting point is 00:22:28 It's not typical that the murderer tries to save the person, right? Yeah. Good point. So, Carl, yes. When the cops are like, what happened here? He was like, oh. You know, like the pumpkin had to do it. human thing. They're like, no, no, no, no. What happened here, kid? And he goes, okay, you got me.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Listen, my mom's a real bitch. Let's start going way back. Yeah. My mom's a real bitch, you see. And I'm really mad at her. And I don't like her. And, you know, she had to have this other kid. And here, let me explain to you what he was thinking. This is a clip from him in prison. This is him being interviewed, I believe, by, I forget who this is. It might be Tucker Carl said. For many, many years, there was just this hot, flaming ball of wrath in the pit of my stomach. And it was directed at my mother. That's the mom. And one of the reasons why I chose to kill my sister and not someone else is because I knew that by doing so, I could hurt my mother in the worst possible way.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Because I had always known as a child that the most devastating thing to my mother would, be the loss of one of her children, and I found a way to take away both her children in one fell swoop. Yeah, we also raped her. Was that, that was for you or was that for her? Because I feel you decided to get a little something in for yourself there, too. Carl, I think I'm so glad you brought that up, because here's what I think happened. This kid was watching insatiably violent pornography. Yep. And he had the opportunity. I found a way to fill one need in my life with also
Starting point is 00:24:16 the need for revenge against my mother. Right, yeah. I killed two birds with one stone. Nice. Nice. Yeah, a piece of shit. So, Carl, he's charged as a juvenile on capital murder charges because in 13 or at Texas, the
Starting point is 00:24:33 oldest is 14 that you could be charged as an adult. You're the youngest. You have to be 14 at least. Yeah, yeah. He was sentenced to 40 years in prison with the possibility of after 20 years, which was the maximum sentence for a juvenile in Texas. This happened in Abilene, by the way. He'll be eligible for parole in February of 2027.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And if he has never granted parole, it doesn't matter. He will be released in February 2047. Cool. Now, the mother who initially maintained contact with Paris through the murder, through the charges and everything, she's still communicated with the kid, which this lunatic said astounded him because he was trying to fucking spite her. Right. Charity has been told that she and her
Starting point is 00:25:18 new son are at risk once Paris is released. The doctor's like, this guy's a fucking sociopath and he doesn't like that he had another kid. Because a year after he murdered the other daughter and he goes to prison, she gets knocked up and has another baby. That's pretty wild
Starting point is 00:25:34 right there. Is a guy going to replace two of these things? Yeah. So they're worried that once he gets out, he's still going to track down the mom. She might want to change her name and move she has said that she realizes she's probably going to have to move yeah yeah yeah so where do we uh and this the fun part is the mom showed him she had the new son like i said she also started a foundation called the ella foundation and goes around the country preaching forgiveness and acceptance which is uh the exact opposite of what this kid wanted he wanted his mother to live
Starting point is 00:26:05 her life and agony and misery she's doing all of this as a fuck you to have all right that's fun Yeah. Paris made his drug addicted mama martyr and a true crime darling. So we can add that to the list of reasons why he's a creep. So ladies and gentlemen, when you go to the creepoff.com this week, remember to vote for your pal Vinny and this absolute fucking monster, Paris Bennett. Thank you. Great presentation, Vinny. Well done. Thank you. You know, I got to tell you a quick story. It's kind of true crime related. Oh, don't tell me you had a little sister. Last night, I'm watching the Cubs game, and a commercial comes on, and I go, holy shit, I know that guy.
Starting point is 00:26:47 It was an ad for like this identity theft software, LifeLock or something like that. And there's this guy on there, Matthew Cox. And it says identity theft expert. And Matthew Cox is the guy who interviewed me when we were down in Largo last year. Remember I had to get up early and drive to Tampa to do an interview for this guy, Matthew Cox, who is a convicted felon, who is out of prison now, he's turned his life around. And he does these, like, really interesting interviews with mafia and FBI agents and criminals. So this is also the guy who knew alien Tommy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yes, there was a connection. He was in prison with MSCS Tommy. And that's how he got to know who I was because we used to clown that guy a bunch. So, yeah, so this guy, Matthew Cox, is now hired as this company, you know, to be like this expert about identity theft and shit. And I see him out there. I'm like, hey, man, I was just watching the Cubs game. I saw you out there. So happy for him, man, hope things are going well.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And he writes me back and he goes, actually, yeah, I just put out a book. Oh, that's interesting. So what's the book about? Listen to this. He's got a book called Bodies in Low Places. A serious examination into the allegation is Garth Brooks, a serial killer. This sounds very interesting. Can we get him on a bonus episode
Starting point is 00:28:09 just to tell, talking about this? Fuck yes. I want to talk to this guy. Listen to the description from Amazon. It says, two brave journalists dare to expose the music industry's darkest secret that country music legend, Garth Brooks, may very well be
Starting point is 00:28:20 a bloodthirsty serial killer. Through a combination of interviews with federal law enforcement, criminologists, and music insiders, as well as exhaustive research in Garth's connection to hundreds of unsolved homicides and missing persons, the authors piece together
Starting point is 00:28:34 the case Holy shit you know what it's at low places you know what I want to believe this I love it I want to believe it
Starting point is 00:28:46 listen Matthew Cox is my buddy I don't think he would lie and write a book about it good God oh maybe that's why he did that whole Chris Gaines thing he needed an alias right it makes sense
Starting point is 00:28:58 change your name they're on to you Garth Brooks who I sing moody music so anyway shout out to matthew cox check out his youtube channel he does a great job oh man awesome hey carl you know what we forgot to do today we forgot to celebrate we forgot to celebrate let's start off with silverback strength ola creepos happy super chat monday thanks for the five or silver back happy super chat monday to you and uh legal fun monday is a new holiday that we might start celebrating over here uh Jesus if you think you're getting a bigger cut and if you think you're getting your patreon money back fuck off uh Jared thanks for the two bucks I only watched the Super Bowl at Olive Garden. Oh, you're a winner, Jared. Yeah, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I bet you that's fun with the endless breadsticks, tour of Italy. Labron Mystic, thanks for the Fiverr. So try to be less marshmallow in the future to keep from getting stabbed. Got you. Yes, that's the takeaway. Yeah, that's what I've been trying to do. You see, that's why I've tried really hard. Jared, thanks again for the Fiverr.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I've heard these guys will sleep with girls just to brag about it, but this is next level. Agreed. And there comes our boy, Labron. And again, with the five, or if you accidentally unalive your sister, start quoting the book of revelations and take every drug in the house. Oh, yeah, that's actually not a bad idea. Yeah, there it is. I feel like there's a...
Starting point is 00:30:13 And there was a beast with seven crowds! There should be a murder consultant. There should be a company. Because we see this, and we're going to see it during the scum parade today. Everyone Googles this stuff, and it's really dumb to Google this stuff. But if you worked with a murder consultant, who could tell you, okay, so what's the plan? Okay, and then how do you think you're going to get away with that? Yep, that's not going to work at all.
Starting point is 00:30:33 there's three reasons why you're going to get busted. So here's what we're going to do. We're going to break these down one by one, figure out a way for you to get away with this murder. Right. Like if Matt Lewinsky had made called, might have helped. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I would have been like, all right, are you strong enough to carry her out of your basement? That's the first thing you got to do. I know you're doing squats. You've got to get her out of the basement. That's a good start. But you remember, you lift with your legs.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yep. Lift with your legs. A labormistic member for eight months said, Vinny brought in the spite off. How is this kid going to up the ante against his mom now is he going to start a foundation of killing siblings there you go yeah see oh speaking of matt luenska i got a text from him oops i just pulled my uh earbuds out they let him text yeah yeah so this is a new thing so i got i got a text uh from him well the first text is like
Starting point is 00:31:20 will you receive text from this guy i'm like yeah yeah sounds good the next text i get is i need thirty dollars so is it filed by or they'll kill me no no no but in order for us to communicate I think I need to put money in his account. So I'll get on that. I mean, why not just spend all the stupid money I have? What's the difference? Gives a shit. Oh, Biddy.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Oh, buddy. You know, everybody. Lawsuits aren't fun. Unless you happen to host a bunch of shows at the internet. Then they're a fucking blast. Unless you're getting invited on to other people's shows to talk about how dumb John is for following for Kate Meady's fucking phone call. twice oh man labrne mystic two bucks friends in low places aka a shallow grave yes uh i think that makes a time for carl's cop cam let's go i can't wait to see carl's cop cam fight with the cops for
Starting point is 00:32:20 no reason will you please show me car's cop can lose all your rights ruin your life This one comes in from the Great Seamuse. Hey, I love that guy. Yeah, he's great. We're going to start off. We're going to meet a couple of lovely ladies hanging out outside of an ice rink. And apparently there's been some trouble and the police were called to see what's up. Can I just say before we do this?
Starting point is 00:32:48 You're going to have a hard time topping the video we watched last Friday with a clown getting arrested. Yeah, we did it on the bonus show. There was a great video that came in from Thaddy where a guy dresses Ronald McDonald's. was having a psychotic break and fought with the police and when he was brought to the station for his mug shot refused to take his nose off.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Yeah, that's pretty great. It's very funny. All right, Carl, let's meet the ladies outside the ice rink. Were they being accosted by that man? No, he's fine. Come over here, man. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:33:20 I was recently assaulted, aggravated assault by a deadly weapon, pulled point blank at my fucking... Why are you looking at me? I'm listening. Oh, okay. Point point. blank in between my eyeballs um these boys do you mind just not having your hands in your pockets
Starting point is 00:33:35 swimming oh i have nothing in here we're we don't have anything but these boys just were harassing me down the road you they don't know what we just been through in the last 24 hours okay i don't need some in boys sitting here calling her running her off the road assaulting us imitating us okay i'm done letting men stay here and think they can do whatever the fuck they want yeah it sucks being a hot chick always getting all the cat calls and stuff and guys harassing you i have audio of the uh cat calls okay that was it uh i believe that's audio for our super secret club oh if you want to i was talking to brothers johnny and and brother dick yesterday about the secret you know what the secret wink wink the secret club that you can only know about if you go to patreon dot com slash the creepoff
Starting point is 00:34:29 Then you can join our secret club that we'll be meeting again next month. Oh, do I want to throw out maybe the 4th of September being a day to put on your calendar? All right. I got to have to leave early to get to the Villa Roma resort in order to be a part of that, I guess. All right. All right. So apparently, so these ladies were getting harassed and assaulted, a deadly weapon or something like that, she said. But they were in the ice rink.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And these kids were up to no good. Was somebody riding them as the ice was cleaned? No, they're not zambonies. They're not zambonies. They're not zamboters either. I could have quit while I was ahead. We'll leave, but this is bullshit. This kid should be off the fucking hockey team.
Starting point is 00:35:18 All these boys were shooting pucks and us in there. They were swinging their sticks. They've never seen hockey before? They were shooting pucks and swinging sticks. What? That's outrageous. And they were making fun of us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:33 So I think that there's a really easy way to not get puck shot at you, and that's not to not enter the ice rink where all the guys who don't like you are hanging out. Solid point. Yeah. Just an idea. I don't know. This woman definitely looks intense. I've never seen anyone be able to clench a hoof quite like that.
Starting point is 00:35:49 All right. So my clip number three, they think the coach is probably irresponsible with these kids as well. No. So I went in to talk to the fucking coach, and I said, you need to treat your fucking boys how to treat a fucking woman. They don't know what it's like to have a fucking gun to their head. I was recently assaulted. You guys don't know how you come off. Men are superior.
Starting point is 00:36:16 You want to come up to a man. We'll get the fuck out of here. So we're kind of past that point now. Nobody's just going to leave. We're not. Yeah, we are. Yeah, we are. Yes, we are.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yes, we are. No, we're not. We're investigating. We are now. That Jackalander is set on leaving, Carl. These two are fired up. They're quite animated. You notice that?
Starting point is 00:36:38 I like when people argue with the police about what's going to happen next. Yeah, we're going to take off. Oh, no, no, no. You're actually, you're not going to take off. Oh, no, no, you're not understanding officer. We're going to go take off now. Yeah, no, he knows. He has the correct answer.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I hate everything about the one on the left there. Oh, well, if you want to see her come up and that's coming up in just a moment. Oh, good. me a favor can you just scroll up on the comments i want to address something on here um there is a little bit further yeah that that one empty daily empty daily is a great guy great chatter supporter of the show he says stephen corrigan from carl's creep that raped the dead girl after her brother killed her got nine years in prison way to do all the research so i mentioned the other guy got 10 and the half i didn't mention the guy the necrophiliate got nine years in prison um but i also want to make the
Starting point is 00:37:27 point that who knows if any of this stuff is real wait until someone writes an article about you and then tell me if you trust the news media or reporters with any information ever you know did you know that i trespassed at john's house to steal its couch cushion yeah i know you were texting me from the crime scene you were like hey viny we're in i have the text messages i just wanted to point that out call me tabber i have all the evidence i just wanted to point that out real quick uh carl i you know i'm sorry you brought that up again i just want to point something out yeah how do that guy even get caught because like who did she tell on him wait what we the guy who raped the dead body how does he get caught what did she tell out of him i'm saying that's a good point
Starting point is 00:38:06 there must have been an eyewitness or something you're right man if i saw that shit i wouldn't tell anybody i'd pretend i didn't see that shit and hope that i forget about it i gotta be honest with you if i saw someone fucking a corpse i'm not even pulling out my phone camera i'm just like i don't need this i don't want this on my phone all right um you know can i watch this pig get beat up by the cops Yes, clip four, there might be a little resisting going on. Oh, good. We're not. We're not done here.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yes, we are. Stop your fucking yelling. Go fucking yelling me, bitch. Get my camera. Get my camera. No, no. Oh. You are not fucking a rat.
Starting point is 00:38:42 No. Get your hand off of her. Stop. No, you're a house of her. Oh, boy. They're fighting. Out she goes. We're not.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I have a head injury. Turn on your fucking hands off of me. Put your head on your head on your fucking stomach. Don't talk to me like that. Fuck you. Get off of her. Oh, boy. Don't talk to me like that.
Starting point is 00:39:12 We're way past that, sweetie. You're rolling around on the ground. And the tone of voice is the issue. Right, yeah, right. I don't like that you're yelling at me, sir. Yeah, well, I'm also beating you up. So there's that thing. too that you might not enjoy.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Yeah, well. Vinnie, you're not going to be surprised at all of what happens next in my clip number five. Oh, I saw the title. Alper, please. Get on your face. Get on your face. No. Get on your face.
Starting point is 00:39:42 No. No. No. Fuck you. I can't. Do not move. Wait, she can't breathe. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I can't. I can't breathe. You got to stop at the fentany. We're not on you. They're not even to touch her. I love that these two idiots stick up for each other.
Starting point is 00:40:16 They're just making it way worse for both of them. Right. Wait, you can't breathe, said the person who can definitely breathe. Right. Carl, what I don't like about either one of these women is the fact that they really think that they're tough.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Right. And it's like you're talking to a bunch of cops and they're barking orders at the cops like they can do whatever the fuck they want to. And don't be surprised when children make fun of you when you're a big brassy fucking loud, obnoxious asshole. Okay, so what happened was because then they
Starting point is 00:40:47 the next scene is they're talking to this hockey player this kid and his dad or maybe he's the coach or something. And they're giving them the information. They're like, yeah, we were driving down the street and these women like cut us off. So I like flicked them off and then they were flicking me off. And then we went around them and they were like flicking us off. So this was like a whole road rage thing.
Starting point is 00:41:05 They were going back and forth on. She followed them to the ice rink and went into the ice rink to continue this discussion apparently. So they had no business being in the new. So when she goes, they don't know what happened. That's 24 hours ago. They're taking their rage out about something else that happened out of family that's just going to go play hockey. That's what it seems like to me. my clip six maybe this will clear it up a little bit oh jesus and then i am putting my helmet on
Starting point is 00:41:28 getting on the ice uh tyler comes in the locker room and he goes they're out here with baseball bats do not go out at that point i'm getting undressed and i'm like called the cops for me okay i don't want my car getting destroyed when i was running out here she said i'm gonna f and shoot you okay she's running through the rink yelling at everybody okay was she on the ice with you No, no. She went on the ice, she would probably regretted it. Probably, yeah. Okay. You were technically arrested today for disorderly conduct, disorderly person. Mr. Miner Civil Infraction ticket, okay?
Starting point is 00:41:57 Awesome. You're being released here. For what? For disorderly? For disorderly? Okay. Okay. Did the boys get disorderly for running me off the road? I didn't speak with the boys. I'm just relaying this one to you, okay? Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Okay. So she got so road-ranged that she had to go into the hockey rink. Apparently, there's baseball bats. I don't know if that's true or not. But these two idiots were just looking for. a fight, which I wouldn't fight a hockey team. I don't care how old they are. I could see why, though, they thought he was making fun of them, the one, him putting
Starting point is 00:42:25 his helmet and everything on. Hey, look at who I am. Hey, look at, I'm a dumb fat bitch. I'm a mentally handicapped dumb fat bitch. Look at me. I had a brain injury. That's pretty good. Oh, hockey jokes.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Oh, kids are funny. And then they're shooting hockey pucks, and then the one guy passed it and he missed. All right, so then we find out about the other friend who is not going to be let off the hook so easily with just a little citation. So I'm in trouble, but they're not. I'm finished, okay. Emily, though, was arrested and is going to be lodged
Starting point is 00:43:01 for a solid police officer for punching me in the head multiple times. For self-defense. Okay. So she's going to be arrested tonight and all that, so we're leasing you with the vehicle. There is your ticket. So she's going to OCJ or? Correct. She'll be going to OCJ.
Starting point is 00:43:15 But you are actually good. get out if you're like okay so when can her get her um what she sees a judge and or magistrate so it's three it's four o'clock down probably not until sometime tomorrow but here we're good we go just make sure you go to court within 10 days of today's day look at that look at that one step on out we get the show going yeah we're done here lady i like that she thinks it was self-defense yeah the police just started wailing on her out of nowhere because we were yelling at the cops telling him that we won't do what they say, and they can't stop us from leaving. So it was clearly self-defense.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Self-defense, for sure. Well, you know what? In her brain it is because the cop probably was like, no, you can't go in there and probably did give her the order not to do something and physically stopped her. So in this idiot's brain. Yeah, yeah. These people are dumb. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And it's reminded that that other lady has a brain injury. She ain't thinking so well, it seems. Oh. My head ain't doing math. That's so good. You're out of fucking cow. Not you. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:19 There's all the stuff that was on the ground. In the car. Thank you so much. You're welcome. I'm sorry. I reacted how it did. I had a brain injury. Like, I couldn't talk for like eight months.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I just don't trust any cops. While one female was given a citation for disorderly conduct, the other was charged with felony aggravated assault on a police officer and obstructing. They are both innocent. proven guilty in a court of law. They're both fat. Your honor, I couldn't talk for eight buds. So all I did was eat and throw punches.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I know. I almost got to feel bad for that one. She has a slow. It's not great. It's not great. But you can't, I mean, she's going to jail. That's the right thing. I mean, what are the cops supposed to do?
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Well, you know, just in case you're being soft on them. No, the only thing soft is them. All right, Carl. believe it's time for some voicemails brought to you by the friends of Syracuse the creep off voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse we hear as Syracuse feel terrible that Carl was served with a lawsuit over the week I guess the buffalo bills aren't the
Starting point is 00:45:32 only one dealing with hard knocks see you in Syracuse what a great show that hard knock show are you watching it oh yeah of course I haven't watched an episode about my boyfriends on it Of course I'm watching it You know what I wore my shirt Listen to this Vinny Dion Dawkins This is funny Vinny made me a shirt to wear
Starting point is 00:45:53 To a Bills game And on the back of it it says Josh Allen Please cream pie me Yes And it's just It's a plain shirt It just says that on the back
Starting point is 00:46:02 So the other day I put that on And I'm going to go Like use the rowing machine Or something in the basement And then I realized Oh it stopped raining It's actually getting nice out
Starting point is 00:46:11 I'll go for a bike ride Instead, forgetting what shirt I was wearing everyone all around the city wearing that shirt. I can't imagine what people must think. Oh, man. I know. Victory lap. Victory lap.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I almost. He was taking out victory lap. I almost messaged you, but I figured I'd tell you later. Holy shit. That's, oh, my. Oh, man. I know. The funny thing is that I have so many shirts that say I'm gay on them just from this show.
Starting point is 00:46:41 And they're all like my exercise shirts. I wear them and go for bike rides and stuff all the time. Oh, drunk engineer. Good point. Where would two beluga whales get a hold of baseball bats anyway? Yeah, I don't know if there were baseball bats. Yeah, and how could they even get them in their flippers? Good point.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I'm saying. Yeah, let's hit some more of these Super Chat Monday. We are celebrating. Jared's here to celebrate. Thanks for the Fiverr. I have video evidence of Carl dressed like a cat sneaking into S.J.'s house We'll face-timing a green puppet. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Is that true? I hope not. Labrne Mystic has a new one too here. Do we meet Garth Brooks in this secret meeting? I think we might. I doubt it. He's not cool enough to be invited. Yeah, he might not be in.
Starting point is 00:47:24 All right. First voicemail, here we go. New idea for a episode is going to be either the creepiest company or corporation. I was thinking about this after the Delta segment on the most recent creep off and also on hearing about that. how Disney tried to use the Yula to get away with killing that one dude's life. So I think there's a lot of fertile ground here. Yeah, Disney
Starting point is 00:47:51 for the win. Don't call me back. Dibs. Dibs. Disney. I call Disney. All right. Consequence idea. Consequence idea. I've listed out 50 shades gray audiobook out in public
Starting point is 00:48:07 with a car and loudspeaker. Or in a public place with the speaker. Thank you. Fuck you. Bye. There would actually be less gay the way I just admitted to doing.
Starting point is 00:48:20 You know, here's the problem with that. This guy may have solved a problem. Okay. Now that I'm thinking about this. Do you remember when we did the consequence and you had to walk around Walmart blasting porn on your phone? I do remember that, yes. Yes, very well.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Nobody cared. Nobody batted an eye. Right. But if you're listening to that terrible book, people might get upset. Yeah. I think people would take notice if we were listening to 50 Shades of Gray.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah. The worst thing I heard, everybody always said that book is so poorly written that only the dumbest of the dumb really enjoyed it, the horniest of the horny, housewives. Here we go. I'm going to be honest, I don't vote enough. I vote. I had to this time. I vote for Anthony, and let me tell you why. So Carl brought a guy, yes, he was creepy.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Vinny's guy, even creepier. And then Anthony Zennhower steps up. and knocks one out of the park with a little switcharoo, right? So he's like, oh, here's this game show host. His kids on set, like Richard Dawson, blah, blah, blah. No allegations were brought. I'm like, well, then, what the fuck is this? Watch a video again, and Vinny says, I want to watch more of this.
Starting point is 00:49:35 What Anthony Zennhower did is he brought Vinny as a creep. Yes. Not the Canadian. I vote for Anthony. All right. Yes, you're right. I'd denounce it. It should have said, Anthony with Biddy Paulino, when you voted for it, because, yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:48 but he could not wait to see that guy making out with more children. That's not what happened. I was here. I remember. No. All right, here we go. Podcast profit. My podcast prophet here, Holy Spirit, is once again speaking through me.
Starting point is 00:50:03 So I realize that come mid-September, Patrick Swayze will have been dead for 16 years. and my question is what's the fucking holdup on Ghost 2 Any hoodles Or Vinny You fucking Yes
Starting point is 00:50:22 A piece of eating fucking piece of shit I'm just kidding I love you You said Charlene from your creep story was 8 And you said she was 18 Which was she?
Starting point is 00:50:33 Eight years old I did miss speak He's 18 It's still horrible But it's even worse Thank you fuck goodbye Eight-year-old. He ate cereal out of an eight-year-old.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Is that worse than 18? Mm-hmm. An 18-year-old can consent, technically, I believe. To be having cereal eating out of your intestines? Yeah. What do we got a convention going on in the comedy club today? What's going on out there? Apparently.
Starting point is 00:50:59 We got to get one of those on-air signs outside of the studio here. No one would listen. I know. It'll give a shit. All right. One more, Carl. All right. Mini, hey Carl, I got a creep report.
Starting point is 00:51:12 So I work at Wegmans in, like, the hot food buffet area. And so I was just doing my work. And I turn around, and I see this guy fucking beating his meat in the middle of the fucking store right next to the buffet. He's fucking hiding it at first, tucking into, like, the drinks corner thinking he can hide it. The fucking coworker fucking notices. I notice. Then the guy fucking stares down my co-worker, is 40-something. a fucking dude, chin-strapped beard, and just fucking goes to town, cranking his shit.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And my co-worker, give him a fucking death stare and rationally tell him to get the fuck out and leave. Oh, I forgot to mention, this guy's, this kid's, like, 20-something. This kid's like dad was with him the entire time, fucking oblivious. And he fucking, like, tries to deny it happened at first, and then he was fucking embarrassed and leaves. Okay, I know he went about 45 seconds, but that's all I got to say. All good. That's a great story. All good.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I don't know how I would react to that. I think the same way I'd react to seeing someone bang a dead corpse, probably just like, well, I'm going to walk over this way now. I was relieved for a second when he said that it was like a 20-something kid. Yeah. Because I was like, for a second, I was like, oh, they saw me. I see what you did there. Because you beat off at Wegmans.
Starting point is 00:52:27 All the time. Is that what the joke is? Oh, that hot food buffet. I used to eat the hot food buffet at Wegmans all the time. And COVID fucking ruined it. It never came back. They still kind of have it, but it's not as good. You have to ask the people to serve it to you and they make it for you.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Now you can't just serve yourself. Yeah. Stupid. Good point. All right. Those were our voicemails this week. Carl, I believe it's time for a scum parade. And I want to thank our good friends and I want to get this right, Mallor and Savior,
Starting point is 00:53:00 for our fun new scum parade song that I have on right ready to go where it's supposed to be. Jesus Christ We are pros over here At the Creepov It's time for us to listen To the scum parade With darks and murder drugs And jaywalking
Starting point is 00:53:19 You'll hear a bad at a guy who fought his door And catch up on the news this week I want to hear the scum parade Where's the scum parade Where's the scum parade? Malort and Savior, thank you All right, Carl Where do we begin?
Starting point is 00:53:38 gin and the scum parade this week. How about a Chucky Cheese? All right. That seems like a good place as any. Nothing creepy could happen there. Let's, uh, meet this gentleman, Carl. This guy is Jermel Jones. He's 41 years old and he was arrested inside of a Tallahassee Chucky Cheese, uh, as seen here. No, okay. So this is amazing. I always say I would never want to be a police officer, because you just have days where like, purpose. are shooting guns at you, it's stressful. You know, it seems like a tough job. But then you get to a rust Chucky Cheese at the Chucky Cheese and bring him out in the
Starting point is 00:54:16 handcuffs while he's still wearing his mascot uniform and it makes it all worth it. He tried to bribe him with all those tickets, too. The cop was like, nope, in the back of the car. I don't need a plastic car monica dirt bag. You know, this is a very funny story and I wish there was a video of it. Me too, me too. Before the restaurant worker's seat there was stuffed into the squad card. They had to take the helmet off, obviously, but detailed in the probable cause
Starting point is 00:54:42 statement, a woman told police that her child support visa debit card had recently been stolen by a Chucky Cheese employee who had used the card for purchases at smoke shop, circle K, grocery stores, and a what a burger. So this guy's just like Chad Zumach, except Chad's not entertaining to anyone. This guy has a better career in show business than Chad. Otherwise, it's the same thing. You should see this guy's Twitter, too. He's great. I bet. In a bit of amateur sleuthing, the victim, Michelle Allen, went to one of the businesses where her card had been fraudulently used and asked to see store surveillance. Yep.
Starting point is 00:55:17 And then they noticed all the little trail of shit pellets that were going out of the store. They're like, yep, it was a mouse. I knew it. Slices of shitty pizza. So she notices inside of Don's grocery and meats immediately recognizing the suspect as an employee at the Chuck E cheese. cops yesterday went to the restaurant and asked a worker if Jones was there who they identified as a suspect
Starting point is 00:55:42 and they go no he's the one in the mouse suit right now after confirming he was wearing the basket costume the cops just walked over and handcuffed him took him outside now Jones denied swiping the victim's visa saying that if he had found someone's credit card at work he would have turned it into Chucky Cheese and not kept it sure however a frisk of Jones turned up
Starting point is 00:56:01 a visa card with Alan's name on and a receipt for purchases made with the ice him. Now, Carl, he's wearing a Chuck E. Cheese outfit. He has her credit card on him. Yeah, it's not smart. Another similarity with Chad Tumach. Not intelligent. He kept the receipt. Oh, this won't be used against me. He was booked in the county jail on multiple felony credit card theft and fraud counts. He was subsequently released on Bond. And he's previously been convicted of theft, cocaine possession, resisting, trespassing, and marijuana possessions. Cocaine is a hell of a drug. Nice background check, Chuckie.
Starting point is 00:56:36 cheese these people these people work around children all day you don't do a background check on them it's a turkey cheese what do you want Jesus Christ all right let's meet uh these fun people here this is uh chenero deborah johnson that's the white chick no on the right okay yeah and then the other two are uh where did i put their fucking names they are a couple who is trying to adopt a baby from her now she's been sentenced to jail time after deceiving this couple telling them she was going to give up the kid and let them adopt it all along collecting payments from the hospital or from the parents and then deciding no never even telling them she had the kid decided to keep it now the family is from virginia that provided provided the financial support to her while she was pregnant the arrest report said the couple who were set to adopt the child paid johnson $9,931 between May 20th and August 24th. Johnson was supposed to let the agency know when her baby was born, except she never did and instead kept the money.
Starting point is 00:57:43 You know, it's funny because I would pay $9,900 to not have to raise that woman's baby. You know what I mean? I just think very differently in this couple. Oh, no. Oh, no. That would be worth it. I mean, if you're paying top dollar, the couple who were supposed to adopt the couple, baby were able to get Johnson's medical records somehow and found she had given birth to the baby on August 17th, meaning that they had made payments to her after the baby had already been born.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Okay. So that's where the problem is. Correct. In the plea deal, Johnson pleaded no contest to adoption, deception, and petite theft. Did you know that that, uh, that's a thing? Adoption, deception? Okay. I actually did because I experienced, I have experienced. I have experienced. with this, a company I worked at, the owner of it went through a very similar thing with trying to adopt a baby before it was born and then the mom changing her mind about it. Okay. What's crazy about this story, though, is that it's not illegal in Florida to pocket the money and then change your mind.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Right. So the only thing this, the problem is, is that she kept collecting money after the baby was born and didn't tell her. But everything up until that is fine, which I don't understand why, why wouldn't every scumbag soon-to-me mom do this? You get paid, you get great parking spots. Maybe I'll get pregnant. This seems like a fucking great deal.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Yeah. And you start getting the payments early because then, you know, once you have the kid and you, you know, depending on what your circumstances are, you could go and get government assistance and aid and still be getting paid for having the baby. You're getting paid before. You're getting paid after. This is a racket right here. How are people not doing this?
Starting point is 00:59:24 This is crazy that they're not taking advantage of this. It's a good thing they aren't because that'd be a real dredge and a problem. I bet they are. I bet this happens a lot, actually. What? Be my guess. What a world we live in Carl. She's 220 days for this, Carl.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Okay. And the whereabouts of the newborn child is not immediately known, but I believe these white people are on that baby. If the baby could be somewhere for a while while the mom's incarcerated. But these people that look like they want to see the manager about this, we paid for that baby. That's our baby. It's our property. What did you just say, sir? Leave.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Just a real care of this one. Yeah, you need to leave. All right, let's meet this guy, Carl. Oh, boy. Let's go to Wisconsin. This fantastically good-looking guys name is Joseph Ralph Ross. He's 35 years old. And he has pled guilty to a felony charge of placing foreign objects inside of his co-worker's Coke.
Starting point is 01:00:21 What he was doing was here's a picture of it. He apparently was dropping gorilla glue into this person's Coke. Hold on, WW for the wind. He owns the Raiders. Yeah, it is the Raiders. Yes. Holy shit. Some of the better photos.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Well done. Thank you. I got to tell you that image right there is doing wonders for my self-esteem. I actually feel very pretty right now. Oh, you shouldn't. This guy and the 36-year-old victim shared an office at a Wisconsin Exhibition Center. Now, in detail in the criminal complaint, the woman told police that she suspected the beverages on her desk have been contaminated by a chemical substance. Earlier this year, the victim reported becoming ill after consuming the liquid, which she described as having a strong chemical smell and taste.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Due to past events, investigators noted on March 20 at the woman hit a camera below her computer monitor to see if anyone else was putting substances into her beverages. Within 30 minutes, the camera recorded Ross wearing latex gloves squeezing gorilla glue. into the victim's can of Coke. You know, I'm sure this job already sucks as it is. You don't want to be there. You got to deal with this shit had. You got to pretend like you're, you like them, act nice towards them.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Oh, my God. And then you're getting poisoned on top of all of that. It's brutal. I can't share space of anybody. I'll leave. Listen, I don't have to be here. I do it. Listen, we are in the same place,
Starting point is 01:01:56 but we are in separate rooms right now, everybody. That is helpful. Very much so. We can't even see each other. There's a wall between us. I'm looking at you right now. Yeah, it's all I need. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:05 That's all I need. I can't even see each other. Would you rather have your coworker put gorilla glue in your Coca-Cola or come? All right. Not Cardiff. I think that I think gorilla glue is probably way more harmful, right? Is that your final answer? You'd rather have the come?
Starting point is 01:02:29 Here's the deal. I've never had, I've never ingested semen myself. But I actually know a lot of people who have, and they all seem fine. It turns you into a gaslightened, sentient thumb. Let's see. Wait, what? I was saying that it turns you into Aaron Imholt, a sentient gaslighting thumb of a man. Jesus Christ, all right.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I went a long wait for that. Got there quick. Yeah, I sure did. Now, when confronted by the cops, he claimed to have placed a supplement in the victim's coke. Okay. Yeah, to help her out. Yeah. He's more of vitamin B. I was just helping her out. For her health. Yeah. I've got some magic bind for her. A police search of a trash container near Ross's office yielded the protective gloves, which
Starting point is 01:03:12 were wadded up into a ball with the glue bottle and cap inside the gloves. As part of his plea of the felony charge, Ross may never own or possess a firearm, which is good. And he'll be unable to vote. So he's a felon. Good stuff. But he'll bring back John Gruden eventually. So there's that. Until the NFL puts a stop to it. some reason. John Gruden for head coach of the dolphins next year. That'd be cool.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Uh, right. Carl, let's talk about these two. Yeah, let's talk about these two. A teen boy who tortured, killed and dismembered two kittens with a girl and a warped bid to reduce his urge to kill a human has been locked up.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Oh, good. Agreed. The depraved pair used rope to tie up the defenseless animals before mutilating them. one of the kittens was found cut open on the ground in northwest London while the other was hanging from a tree the boy is 17 years old
Starting point is 01:04:07 he wrote very chillingly he really wanted to murder someone and killed cats to reduce my urges he also made a number of harrowing searches about sacrificing animals to Satan while the girl had downloaded pictures of dead bodies and images of mutilated cats from macabre websites
Starting point is 01:04:25 I had to tell you Satan is lousy with cats he does not need any more cats Like most cats go to hell. I mean, all of them should. But here's the thing, Carl. Yeah. Satan is up to his ears and goats.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Yep. He doesn't need any more goats. He's got plenty of cats. And you know what? You think he wants another baby? He doesn't want any more babies, so don't do it. Although he said he's still not good on virgins. He's still looking to get some more virgins.
Starting point is 01:04:55 So if you want to sacrifice anyone. I say fuck that. We should keep them. Well, are you doing the bidding of Satan or not? I don't know whose side you're out on this one. I don't know. I don't know if Satan has my best interest in heart, Carl. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Well, you might be out of the club. He's always about the bloodlust, the bloodlust. That's the thing I like about him. I know. It is charming after all. You know what? You know what? We need to go kill Virgin.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Where's your brother? His co-defendant, this 12-year, this girl, also plotted to buy more kittens before she was arrested and had twisted interest in forensic science the boy had been detained for 12 months after pleading guilty to causing unnecessary suffering to the protected animals by mutilating and killing them she was detained for nine months for the same charge
Starting point is 01:05:44 now this happened in England everybody their sex must have been wild if this is what they're getting up to these two teens could you imagine what that was like this is a picture of them the cats are believed to be in the bag there great just uh walk to the street with them uh huh yeah i don't want to talk about those two no you got to you got to read the rest of the article where he talks about what he was searching for
Starting point is 01:06:09 oh yeah i got to find that i just love i love this part of uh busting people because they're all just typing everything into their fucking browsers like idiots here we go police later discovered a note on the boy's phone that read i've really wanted to murder someone and i was searching how to get away with murder. I have come close. I have killed cats to reduce my urges. I have skin strangled and stabbed cats. The boy also carried out a number of chilling searches for killing cats and dogs and how to
Starting point is 01:06:36 kill a human. How to kill a human. The problem with the internet, no one has any imagination anymore. You have to ask Google how to kill a human. Really? You know, now they're asking Chad GPT. Well, I was going to ask about that too. Does chat GPT, are they a narc like Google is?
Starting point is 01:06:54 We should ask it. I want to know. Yeah. Actually, I'll do that right now. Now, I want to ask ChatGPT if they'll turn over my searches if I ever get busted for murder. Will you turn over my... This probably isn't good. Searches to authorities.
Starting point is 01:07:14 DeWiard Christian says Ask Grock, I'm sure. Yeah. Let's crack what ChatGPT does. I have a feeling that... Ha, good idea. I feel like GROC is more ride or die than ChatGPT will be. Yeah, let's find out. I need to be very clear here.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I don't share your connections with authorities or anyone else. What you talked to me about isn't monitored in real time, and I don't have the ability to turn you in. That said, if you are seriously considering hurting someone or if you've already harmed someone, I can't help you plan, cover it up, or avoid consequences. What I can't do is encourage... This is why we need a murder consultant agency. No one else is doing this, not Google, not chat GPT.
Starting point is 01:07:57 You're on to a business here, Carl. If you're in immediate danger of harming yourself or others, please call 911 if you're in the U.S. You know where I am, chat GPT. Don't be some coy with me. Hold on. I'm calling now. Or he's your local. My friend is typing in some weird chin into chat GPT, officers.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Do I want me to give you some confidential support resources you can reach out to? Say yes. I'm going to say, no, I was only new boot goofed. Ah, Labromistic, thanks for the fiber. Go with the gorilla glue. You're drinking Coke. It strips for us from bolts. the grill glue didn't stand a chance.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Come must be pumped from the stomach. Yeah, I learned that from Rod Stewart. That's true. Yeah. Says, got it. Just a little new boot goofin, not plotting the next date line episode. Oh, chat GPT. I like so saucy.
Starting point is 01:08:42 All right, Carl. This has been one hell of an episode. Did we hit all of the super chats? Yeah, we just did, I believe. Really? Because it's super chat Monday. Oh, hold on a second. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Labr and Mystic. thanks for the two bucks not a bad t-shirt idea eat and throw punches okay have we done creepiest mascots Carl I think we did I want to say we did but I don't remember I think we did and they're generally
Starting point is 01:09:10 all pretty well researched it would be that guy at Chucky Cheese though yeah yeah yeah also he says thanks another two bucks it's not like he's stealing the kids credit cards right yes I mean that would be horrible the kids feel safe there space age hamburger says I finally remember to subscribe
Starting point is 01:09:25 Thank you, Space Age Hamburger. We truly appreciate that. Like this video, like and subscribe, whether you're watching on the Who Are These Podcasts channel, or if you're watching on the Creepoff channel. And also, I'll just advertise. I will be on point dabblepoint on the Shulie Network today at 4 p.m. I have a brand new game I'll be unveiling. This is exciting, Vinny. Let me guess the name of it.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Go ahead. It's not straight. No. It's not even close. Oh, I was wrong. It's not even close. No, what a listener is put together a game where you have to guess, I'm going to tell you a phrase, and you have to guess whether Aaron Imholz said it or Darkside Phil.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Oh, shit. And then we have the link, and you can see. So it's good that you guys are covering Aaron Imholt on the Stuttering John show. Cool. Yeah, oh, yeah. Don't you have an Aaron Imholt show up Friday? Patrick Belly loves that. He loves that we cover Aaron Imholt on Point, Dabble Point.
Starting point is 01:10:19 It doesn't bother him at all. It's great. I would be annoyed, too. Yeah, he seemed pretty annoyed about it. Patrick, you got to understand what it's like to work with Carl. He don't give a shit. I just consider myself, myself, everywhere I go. So I talk about what I like to talk about.
Starting point is 01:10:32 All right. All right. Folks, this is about a fun episode. Thank you. Thank you so much for supporting the show and watching live. Those of you did. And checking this out after, you guys are all right, too. If you didn't see this week, we had a little bit of trouble on Friday.
Starting point is 01:10:47 We had a scheduled interview with Douglas King Jr. from Predator Poachers, Long Island. We had to reschedule that. currently we are set for this Friday. So we're hoping that we're going to be good to go. We had this guy ready to go, and then he sends me a message and goes, hey, Vin. There's a guy we've been trying to get for like three months. Do we know what happened with that, by the way? I don't know yet, no.
Starting point is 01:11:08 But I'm sure we'll find out this Friday. So tune in. Become a bonus content member. You get all sorts of good stuff. Anything else you want to say, Carl? Yeah, I want to say people in the hall need to talk way louder. I would love it if they did. That'd be great.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Hey, do you know we got new space over here, guys? You want to come to take a look at us over here? You want to come in a Monday afternoon, early afternoon over here? That's a good time to get a tour of the facility. Fucking asshole. Jesus Christ. How long have we been doing this show at this time and this place, many? How many years now has it been?
Starting point is 01:11:41 Five. Jesus. Same time, same channel. Unbelievable. It's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Good gear. It's the cream off.
Starting point is 01:12:06 It's the cream off. I hope.

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