The Creep Off - Episode 276: An Interview with Douglass King Jr. (Predator Poachers Long Island)

Episode Date: August 24, 2025

Vinnie’s on the road and Karl’s tied up in a lawsuit, so today we’re giving you a sneak peek at our latest bonus episode. We thought it’d be the perfect time to highlight and support ...Predator Poachers Long Island by sharing Karl & Vinnie’s sit-down with Douglas King Jr. His mission: stop adults in the Northeast from grooming, exploiting, or meeting up with minors. Hear how his team exposes predators and forces them into the light. plus, we say goodbye to king cobra and cover some scum stories! If you’d like to support Predator Poachers Long Island (and tell them The Creep Off sent you), here’s how:Locals: predatorpoacherslongisland.locals.com – $4/month for early and uncensored content, plus arrest updatesCashApp: $pplongisland – helps cover travel costs to catch these guysVenmo: @pplongisland – every bit goes a long wayInstagram: @pplongisland – DM tips and follow updatesX (Twitter): @pplongisland – DM tips and follow updatesEmail: pplongisland1@gmail.com – send tips directly

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're hunting peddows. Gonna home some pettos tonight. Oh yeah, baby. We're hunting peddows. Crank one out. Get going to jail. Get ready for someone. one you thought was 12 years old too late for running cause it's time for the show
Starting point is 00:00:40 hunting pedos oh la cream of the crop creepos welcome to another scum stream hold on a second carol this isn't the creep off it's the scum stream i got to fix that perfect hi everybody sorry we're running a little bit late for you live streamers it's carl's fault never apologize to these people. They could wait for us. I felt the need to blame you. We're going to bring the goods today. It wasn't so much about the apology. It was the more about blaming you. I know. Vinnie's having a rough day today. The tech is not cooperating
Starting point is 00:01:08 with him. I think our guest just left the studio. Oh, no. Oh, no. We were waiting at our guests and our guests arrived. Now the guest is gone. Oh, poor Vinny. Hey, buddy. What's going on, man? Man, I got so much
Starting point is 00:01:25 crazy things happened. You know what? Well, waiting on him to reconnect, which I'm sure is about to happen. You want to talk about a couple of scum stories? Actually, you know what I want to talk about. Big breaking news happened. What happened? King Cobra, JFS, Joshua Sanders, Sanders,
Starting point is 00:01:42 has passed away at the age of 34. Listen to this. King Cobra's dead? King Cobra is dead. What is going on here? The YouTuber and musician, according to this article, was reportedly found unresponsive, in Casper, Wyoming, and his Casper, Wyoming home on August 22nd, 2025,
Starting point is 00:02:03 while scanner audio from local police indicated he was discovered, blue with the lips, the official cause of death has not yet been released. Hinkobar launched his YouTube channel in 2011, where his Gothic persona, homemade food hacks, and candid rants, gained him a cult following. Well, I guess. He also showcased his love for guitar playing, vocal covers, and wandmaking, which became signature aspects of his content.
Starting point is 00:02:28 His openness about living with Asperger's syndrome drew both admiration and criticism as he navigated the challenges of being a highly visible figure in online low-cow culture. He just died of natural causes and he was 37. 34. The YouTuber struggles with alcoholism were widely documented. Sounders often addressed his drinking habits during the live streams while reports also noted that trolls frequently sent him alcohol, exacerbating his addiction. Over the years, he faced multiple controversies, including a public eviction in 2020,
Starting point is 00:02:58 harassment campaigns from online critics. News of the death prompted an outpouring of reactions across social media fans shared tributes highlighting his unique authenticity while others reflected on the toxic aspects of internet culture that surrounded him. That's horrible, man. I'm sorry to hear that. Well, you know, it's the sad thing is that he got to see Ozzy die and he was very upset about that.
Starting point is 00:03:21 If he could have just kicked it before Ozzy, he wouldn't have lived his last days so depressed about his hero going away well r i p king cobra yeah rip king cobra you're going to lose a lot of content on who are these socials aren't you yeah it's kind of a bummer for me yeah well ladies and gentlemen he's back our guest is back and i'm really excited to bring him on he is he is working with predator poachers his youtube channel is p p p long island please welcome douglas king junior to the show hey you guys oh my god sorry about that my phone over here in the car and i so i ran inside and doing it on my laptop So you work with the overall organization Predator Poachers.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Is that correct? Yep, that is correct. So I kind of want to know a little bit about you, but I also want to talk a little bit about the structure of the organization because I'm a little confused. I'm following Predator Poachers for quite a while on this show. We are big fans. Our listeners are big fans.
Starting point is 00:04:16 We know Alex. We know Gordon Flowers. We followed all of that. And it seems like recently they've been kind of branching off and starting these new channels like yours. How did that all come about? out and how did you get involved with the overall organization? Yeah, no, so basically Alex has always wanted to try to branch out and kind of build a network because, you know, he's one guy and like, yes, he travels a country and everything,
Starting point is 00:04:41 but if he could have other kind of groups that are like under one umbrella working together to kind of tackle parts of the rest of the country, then it makes what we do much more efficient and helps us get more people locked up. So how I got involved is we had a mutual contact through just like our work in the past. I'd actually done previous investigative work into this subject matter. Like, I don't know if you guys are familiar with Nathan Larson. He ran, yeah, he had like a pretty extensive network of websites on the open web and some
Starting point is 00:05:18 stuff on the dark web where a lot of pedophiles. joined and they would trade C-SAM on the internet and also I, you know, try to traffic children. He was arrested for trying to, for meeting a minor in California. And then at a layover in Denver, he got caught. And then he subsequently died in jail. I had a big investigation into that network because after he passed away, there were still thousands of people. And Ryan Montgomery, who's, you know, the top cybersecurity person in the world, we got connected and he provided me the data that had a list of all the people who were on the websites, like their emails and usernames and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:06:05 So, yeah, it was crazy. And I ran around like basically like the Northeast confronting these people, but then the investigation got pulled. Hold on a second. So are you at law enforcement? at this point? No, no, no, no, no. I'm not law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Like, when you get involved in this kind of thing, what's your background that gets you involved with this? So my background, I start, I'm a video producer, first and foremost.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Obviously, you can't tell with this setup I have here in Norway. It's a lot better. But, yeah, so I actually worked at Project Veritas for a number of years.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Oh, okay. Interesting. Yeah, as a video editor, then I would have more of a producer role and then in 2023 kind of all that stuff went a little haywire but that was when I started that investigation to Nathan Larson's like a network of websites with all the pedophiles and what night who's funding that uh who was funding that voluntarily well that was when I was still at Veritas like um okay so like a side hobby you were doing yeah no I mean like it was something I was
Starting point is 00:07:16 always passionate about because I discovered Alex and whatnot in like 2021 and you know we loved his videos we thought like he did amazing work and so when I had this opportunity to do something similar with like the help of Veritas funding me
Starting point is 00:07:32 to do it you know it was like a perfect situation and I actually tried to emulate Alex's style even at the time because you know he was so effective with it but once Veritas kind of close their doors essentially you know i was laid off and um i still have all that data and we're
Starting point is 00:07:51 working to kind of revive that investigation while also simultaneously getting the guys are already working on now so through a mutual contact um i got i got connected with alex and i was video editing for him for about just about a year before we met in person he needed a camera guy i was filling in we went around a number of states like film and catches and that was when he you know offered me the opportunity to start my own branch and the rest is history yeah so you started this up in february of this year your channel yeah is this um i assume it's monetized is this what you're doing for a living now yeah absolutely um you know thank you very much yeah we're working to make this fully full time uh i still do like freelance video production work for
Starting point is 00:08:42 various groups, you know, who are kind of in the journalistic sphere. But, yeah, ideally, I want this to be my absolute full-time. And we're slowly getting there. So I'm very happy about that. Now, when you're out there doing this with Alex, it's got to be kind of weird, like knowing what's okay to say and what isn't okay to say, because I'm sure that you don't want to do anything that's going to actually interfere with a real police case.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Oh, yeah, absolutely. So what kind of training does Alex give you to, like, do that? So funny enough, like, my training really was, you know, editing his catches for about a year. Like, I probably added close to, like, a hundred-something by the time I actually went on caches with him to film. Right. And so I really did get kind of, like, a blueprint.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And also, honestly, my work at Veritas kind of helped me learn a lot about what to say what not to say in a journalistic standpoint and it kind of goes into it like not fully but it does kind of go hand in hand sometimes with legal parameters and so yeah there's just like a few things you got to know just so like not one ruin the investigation and like you know you can't falsely imprison someone you can't hold people against their will so it's important to discover those kind of parameters to make sure and obviously you can't like beat the at them. I know some groups like to do that. But, you know, we've seen it. We joined your locals, by the way. I should point out. You need support predator approaches along Island. You could do that
Starting point is 00:10:24 on locals. It's four bucks a month on censor catches. I sponsor a lot of predator hunters because I really do feel strongly about this. Carl and I differ. And that's kind of where I want to talk you a little bit about because there's some people on this that have a different point of view. and they feel that what's happening is entrapment to these people. Because, like, you know, you feel like there's a difference, right, Carl? There's a difference for somebody. I'll jump in real quick. So there are times when we watch these, and I have no love for any child predators, obviously.
Starting point is 00:10:55 But it's interesting when these people get set up. They think they're talking to a minor, and sometimes they're slow. They really, they have some issues. The FBI has been doing this. since 9-11 where they find people who are not capable of putting together any type of terrorist attack and then feeding them all this information and giving them money and giving them supplies and then oh we busted them they were going to blow up this building the gretchen whitmer thing right right right right turn out was all feds that were doing it my point is there ever a case
Starting point is 00:11:30 where it's more entrapment you're actually dealing with a guy who there's no way he ever would have gotten in touch with a minor or has the ability to do anything to children No, it's never like, you know, we're never like just seeing a guy and being like, this guy is definitely a pedophile and I'll prove it by messaging them first and initiating sexual conversation with them. Like, it never works out that way. And also just by definition, we're not law enforcement. So it never is entrapment. But with what we do, the way it works is we create these like profiles on various social medias. And, you know, we make them very very big.
Starting point is 00:12:09 visibly appear to be children. And, you know, we join these, like, sex groups and whatnot that, like, whether it's on kick or Facebook, like, the furthest will go is we'll send a friend request. But, like, you know, when you're doing that, it's like, you're just sending them en masse with people who, like, are friends with pizza pages or, like, have a bunch of other little girls or little boys in their friendsless. Does that count as first contact, though? Like, does that count as you guys make you guys?
Starting point is 00:12:37 A friend request. Because friend requests, like, you know, I don't know, like back in the day when I, you know, on Facebook and stuff, I used to just like be like, add friend, add friend, ad friend, ad friend. It's almost like a spam. Like, it's not necessarily like, it's like, and all law enforcement, they don't, like, count the adding the friend as an initial contact. Like, if they direct message you, that is typically what is considered the first contact. Right. So you'll join groups that do you know are putting that type of stuff. Now, is that legally done? for you guys to be joining those groups? Well, we don't, well, you know, there's certain, like, decoys who are a lot more sophisticated than I am. I'm very new to decoying. I mean, as of December is when I really first started doing it myself. But we have some very experienced people who decoy who know how to avoid, you know, seeing or having it saved, like, joining these, like, groups where, like, you know, bad, really bad things are being shared. But, like, you know, in my case, the groups I join, they're not outwardly sharing that stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:44 It's just, like, you know, sex type, like hookup groups and that kind of thing. And then I typically join, I say, hey, I'm 13 or whatever. And then PM me, and then they personally message me disregarding the age. So here's my follow-up question to kind of the entrapment thing. A lot of times these are dim-witted individuals who are sexually frustrated and who are knows what's going on. Have you ever felt bad with someone that you've caught? Has you ever gone just like, oh, this poor motherfucker, he doesn't know what he's doing. Honestly, like, you know, I thought I would feel more bad in those cases, but the fact of the matter is these guys, like, whether they are like fully special needs or just like fully low IQ, like they're still trying to work me every time I talk to them.
Starting point is 00:14:34 They're trying to get out of it because they know what they're doing is wrong and they're doing it anyway. And they really like to lean on their conditions as like why they made this mistake. But they still are lying. They're still like beating around the bush every time we talk to them because they know that they're that what they're doing is wrong and they also know it's illegal and they're scared. So the fact that they always have that capacity to lie and try to avoid the trouble of their actions. of their actions. That's why I never really feel bad for them. So Alex is a pretty big, intimidating
Starting point is 00:15:10 guy. Yeah. And I'm wondering, have you ever been in a situation where you were scared for your safety when confronting one of these guys? It's funny because you know, a lot of the decoys that we work with are women. My partner, who I do all this stuff with is my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And she's incredible. She's doing like 10 different things at once when we're doing this stuff and she's amazing. But, you know, it's most like I think like the the females I'm not like in a sexist way it's just like I've just noticed this pattern like they get a little more like fearful of like situations that we're not 100% sure of what we're walking into and I guess there is that level of concern on my end as well but in the end I I just remind myself like these are these guys are targeting young
Starting point is 00:15:56 children like they they can't even like I have the courage to I try to go after adult women so they're not they aren't really going to like be they're they're more afraid of an adult man than anything else so oh yeah that that's the fear that's in the back of their head every time they're going to meet up with someone it's like it's right yeah exactly but but that that means though if you back an animal up into a corner you don't know what it's going to do right so there could be um times when these guys lash out physically because you don't know what else to do I saw Alex in a pretty good fight. Yeah, yeah, Alex, he's had a few squabbles.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I guess the biggest concern I have is if they have a gun. Yeah, I'm a concern. But luckily, we do the Northeast. So no one really has, like, guns, especially on their person in the Northeast. I mean, you know, I ain't going to say if I do or don't have one, but I can't carry it around because New York. But, you know, I'm lucky to be in this. geographic situation I'm in where like guns and whatnot aren't as prevalent. So it is definitely less of a concern.
Starting point is 00:17:11 But, you know, anything could happen at any time. And I understand the risk of that. So I just have to ask this question, you know, from the decoy standpoint of this, when you're working behind the scenes, I always wonder this. You know, you guys have limited resources. You can't go catch everybody that you find. How many people, how many of these people are you chatting with at any given time? And how many of them do you actually go after?
Starting point is 00:17:34 Uh, so at any given time, at least on my end, like, because I'm also editing, like, I, I, I still edit for, you know, Preder Poacher's main group, but I also edit our videos. I, I have some help from M, uh, my girl who works with me. Um, and so I, and also, like, running around trying to meet these guys, like, in the first place. So, like, we're constantly running around. I don't talk to as many of them at one point as I would like to, but, you know, at, at, at, any given moment, I'm talking to probably three, four dudes, you know, and, but like, for the people who, like, solely focus on decoying, I honestly couldn't even tell you how many guys they're talking to at a single time, but it's definitely in, in the double digits at least. Yeah, but I think what really wants to know is what percentage of those people do you get to confront? Yeah. Yeah. So, at this rate, you know, we do a pretty good job. of, you know, the ratio and the percentage-wise because these guys, like, we want them to actually be like, like, we want them to get prosecuted and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:18:46 So the standard or the threshold of, like, what's required to get that to happen is relatively high, but also a lot of these guys, you know, it's high, but at the same time, a lot of these guys do cross the line pretty quickly. so there's there's so many that it's really hard to determine an exact amount but once they do cross the line we do put a lot of effort into getting them and so far uh so what is uh you know trying to arrange a sexual meetup is definitely one of the lines um sending a penis picture is definitely one of the lines asking for naked pictures of all the lines or like any kind of implication that there's like a prior victim or something like that you can't in the chat be like hey do you
Starting point is 00:19:35 want my nudes you can't offer no no no no no we never do anything like that and we always want to make sure the age like that we're posing as is like 14 and younger because you know even like in a lot of like legal codes it's like you know 14 and under is like the thing so if you're posing as a 15 or 16 year old while it's obviously illegal to an extent and it's obviously immoral, you know, it won't result in the same amount of justice that needs to be served. Do a lot of these people start talking to you and then just ghost and like disappear? Yeah. Do they get wise to you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:17 We've had that happen before. I don't know if you guys saw the last catch we posted on YouTube. The guy who took two hours to come out of his house. Yeah, his parents were lying for him and said he was at a Mets game, right? Yep, yeah, and he was texting. I was like, I swear I'm at the Mets game. I'm like, just answer the phone so he could hear the crowd. And so he, yeah, right, I'd be like, okay, I believe you.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And I would have probably left. So if he had a Mets game, you'd have heard, boo! Right, I'm right. But, yeah, so he ghosted the, like me, I was actually decoying that guy, and he ghosted her once the conversation moved from Kik to text. I was on text now. And then we tried again the next day. It's a really crazy story because we went to the address that we found listed for him
Starting point is 00:21:12 because he gave us his real phone number like a nub. And so we go to the house and it's like his ex-girlfriend's families. And like they don't know where he is. So we thought. And I actually like, talk to him on the phone. I'm like, I have this package. I need you to sign for it. And he was like very dice. He's like, I live in Connecticut. I'm not home, yada, yada. And we even went to the house that he wound up actually living at that same day. We knocked and nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And then weeks later, we got notified by that the family of the ex. And it's like, they knew he, like, they gave us all of his information. They let us know, like, the deal. Like, he's home. like he's there and um they helped us finally get to him and ask him all the questions and you know it was a really wild situation like but that's it that's why it's like it's kind of tough to figure out the approach because a lot of times we don't tell the people that we're talking to the whole truth because we want to earn the trust of the predator that we're trying to meet to tell us everything that they will so we don't want to like blow up their spot but you know some cases you know we pick and choose different strategy and in this case it
Starting point is 00:22:28 really paid off just being very honest i have a naive question yeah so is it so the no question naive by the way you get this guy he's 50 years old and he thinks he's chatting with a 12 year old girl and it gets sexual and we should meet up and we'll hang out and you guys confront him you have the text messages you have voicemails and stuff Is it illegal to message someone who's not 12 years old? He's messaging another adult. Now, his intent is wrong, but he actually hasn't done anything to a minor. Well, so the way it works, it's like the intent factor.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I actually have a law. I might just be limited to New York or Suffolk County. I'm not sure. but when we met with a guy the night of the 19th someone we work with who was watching our stream sent me this law and it kind of helped me figure out the phraseology of this
Starting point is 00:23:30 so harmful in minors means that quality of any description representation one second so here it is so that the defendant did not make a reasonable effort to ascertain the true age of the minor that in the defendant's effort to ascertain the true age of the minor, the defendant
Starting point is 00:23:49 was not prevented from ascertaining the age of the minor as a result of actions taken by the minor, and then there's... Hmm. I would have to be losing. He's still there. I think he just had his internet's given a little grief. Yeah, he's frozen. Yeah. So... He's frozen, Carl.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Why to follow up on that? Because in that law, it's describing a mitre. There is no mitre. That's my point. No, no, I hear that. Sorry about that. I don't know what happened. The fact that, like, they believe that this person's a minor and there's no reason to believe that they are in a minor and they're still getting, like, talking this way, it's like, yeah, like, there isn't a real minor with us at that moment. And I think it's a good thing. That's kind of why we do what we do. But it, I think it has probable cause for law enforcement to look further into this person, like, hopefully sees their devices and see if there are real minors being actually being.
Starting point is 00:24:46 voided by that. Oh, okay, that's interesting. So the conversation that you have won't necessarily Yeah, it does. But then there's going to be additional charges because of course these guys are up to a lot of other creepy shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we've had a guy who the arrest charges were, you know, disseminating a decent material and attempt to endangerment.
Starting point is 00:25:10 But, you know, I guess upon further investigation and like questioning itself, turns out. he's produced child porn like he had it was at possession of child porn huge laundry list compared to what the arrest uh charges were so that's like at the very least like you know because a lot of d a lot of prosecutors don't like uh you know like we're doing this type of work and like looking into these people they're not going to prosecute this but our hope is that okay you don't want to prosecute this but please use this as probable cause to seize their devices and investigate this individual more so we can if not if you're not going to use our stuff
Starting point is 00:25:51 please find something because clearly they have a history or a tendency to do something like that and will they go along with that for the most part uh not every time it's unfortunate but like that's always our hope with the feds involved i mean i'm sure there's a lot of state line trafficking and yeah yeah we've had the feds uh not uh with our particular group yet but um at with Alex, we called this dude. This is actually a very crazy saga. So, he tried to get this guy named Matt Young
Starting point is 00:26:24 in South Carolina. I think it was maybe 2020. Yeah, right? It's with a J. But, um, so Alex tried to get this guy in South Carolina and South Carolina historically, like a guy can admit to having
Starting point is 00:26:40 thousands of images of CP on his phone and they won't do shit because there wasn't a real minor to this time. They're in, insane. So the guy, Matt Young, Alex was trying to meet him, and Matt Young managed to escape on a golf cart, and these like two like fools in South Carolina were like getting mad at Alex for trying to talk to this guy. Now fast forward January 2025 and Alex and I were just like working together. I was his camera guy and he was doing the interviews, of course. And Matt Young was added again in Buffalo, inviting a 13 year old girl to. have sex during mass at a church I guess we watched that video yeah that one was crazy and it was bitterly cold and
Starting point is 00:27:24 I like going in and filming Alex I was like oh my god this is insane and then all the parishioners were getting mad at us there if I recall yeah yeah he was and I got first he was like I get it but then he was kind of being like a little a little bitch to us so
Starting point is 00:27:41 I said it was annoying everyone became annoying at the mess um but then as recently as july 21st i want to say we were getting a guy named tommy walker in dunkirk new york which is somewhat near buffalo not exactly it is like a crackhead it's like mostly crackheads i didn't realize um like the people it was nuts and uh so we go and we're trying to get this Tommy Walker character who recognized Alex from the Matt Young church video because he's dating Matt Young's baby mama. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yeah, this woman's batting a thousand on dating pedophiles. It's really insane. And that became, that was a chaos catch. If you see it in our locals, like Alex has his angle, I have my angle. It is, it was wild. The whole street was like yelling. It was a yelling match. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I have a question. Like, so you've had a lot of experience with this. with Alex, you doing it yourself. Who was, like, the biggest creep? Who was the biggest sick? Oh, yeah. What stands out in your mind? It's like, holy shit, I can't even believe that one.
Starting point is 00:28:54 So that dude who, um, the dude I was talking about with, like, the many charges, like you wanted to, like, you know, like being charged with producing child porn. He was a really big creep over text, like, you know, I started decoying him. We almost got him within an hour of him reaching out to us. He sent a dick pick, was trying to, like, ask for naked pictures, try to arrange a sexual meetup in like 30 minutes so like let's go get him but we that turned into like a three week constant all day every day trying to get him and just failing miserably and uh but the stuff he was saying and sending to that girl like we thought he was going to be like this like big
Starting point is 00:29:33 crazy like but he was a timid little pussy for like a better word and uh but the guy we got last night uh we we just did a catch last night in kingston massachusetts sits and uh that's why i lost track of time i was like oh my gosh 1203 i'm like we didn't get home to like four in the morning um i i appreciate you guys as patience um and uh so this guy last night his rap sheet is so crazy he's been i guess multiple charges of like raping abuse of a child um indecent assault and battery against someone under 14 like multiple accounts over the years um and uh you know he was talking about uh taking care of like this 13 year old girl and her seven year old sister like because they said they were from a broken home the decoy
Starting point is 00:30:23 and um he said he'll take care of them buy them food take them shopping and like you know in exchange like for sex and all that stuff he was planning on like kidnapping them all this crazy stuff and you know he was also on all the apps like telegram zanging he admitted to me that you know people try to sell him uh you yummy pizza stuff on all these apps and he acted like he never bought it because he's terrified of going back to jail and the only reason he got out of jail is over a technicality where they want to put him in a mental institution like a state mental institution and the examiner who was examining him to put him in the institution there was a conflict of interest with the
Starting point is 00:31:09 doctor who ran the institution because the examiner also co-owned the LLC that ran the state institution so because of that time it's like it's to walk yeah so the guy got to walk in 2008 after multiple like four or five different over a number of years of like actually like abusing children like sexually abusing children so uh we we we weren't sure about this guy like we were like nervous. Like we, we, like, last time I was a little nervous. I'm like, is this guy bringing like a gun or like chloroform and I'm going to get chloroformed on a live? There's a lot of things. Yeah. I was like, shit, that'd be so embarrassing. I'd get chloroformed on a, on a catch. So I was really hoping there was no
Starting point is 00:31:55 chloroform. But, uh, you know, Carl asked you a question about times that, uh, you may have been afraid while you were doing this? Yeah. I want to know, have any of these people really made you angry? Like, you seem like a pretty laid back. guy. And, like, when you're dealing with them, I know personally, I have a problem where when I see this stuff, I legitimately get physically mad. Like, I can't believe this scumbag. And I get upset. How do you keep your calm? And tell me about a time where they really upset you. Oh, my God. Well, tell you the truth, they're always really frustrating to me. Like, every time I'm meeting them, like, I'm fucking deep down, I'm kind of boiling. Like, I was actually having this
Starting point is 00:32:33 conversation with them last night. It's like, like, I could, I, I just, you know, I just, you know, You know, I try, I want to keep it chill because, you know, we're turning this over to law enforcement. I don't want the jury. It's like, I hope it always goes to trial and everything. So I want a jury to not sympathize with the guy because I'm getting pissed and mad and stuff. And, you know, I've never been known for having good patience in my life until I started doing this. Because I guess all that patience I've been holding deep inside I use for this because I want to get these guys locked up. So I try to do everything and it's buy the book as I can.
Starting point is 00:33:09 But really what gets me the most, man, it's not like it's when I'm dealing with like the lucids, I call them, like the ones who have no special needs or any kind of disability or anything like that. And, you know, I can just, I just know they're lying. Like I might not have like the additional evidence to prove it. Alex is really good at doing that shit. He's got these really good tactics. I'm still relatively new, so I got to perfect those.
Starting point is 00:33:39 But, like, the other night, the one two nights ago that we did in Port Jefferson, or three nights ago, it was the night of the 19th into the 20th. This guy, his name was Joseph Tiberia, and he came to meet a 13-year-old girl for sex at the movie theater, and he was going to get her high. And apparently in his car, he had a pillow, a hunting night. I mean, he's a landscaper, but still in his car. car, he had a pillow, hunting what were they going to see? Fantastic
Starting point is 00:34:09 Four. Oh, yeah. So, that's a good date. Yeah, right? And like, he scouted the movie. He used cash to buy the tickets. Like, he,
Starting point is 00:34:23 he, it's like he's done, if he hasn't done this before, he has fantasized about it and planned it before, like, because we had a new decoy who just reached out.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I was like, I want to do this. So I gave her kind of the parameters of had a decoy. And so she joins kick. This guy reaches out to her after she says she's 13. And he wanted to meet her at the movie theater. So we actually picked her up and she was posing as a minor.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And, you know, like when he saw her, he hugged her, gave her a kiss on the cheek. And I was like leading her into the theater. And, you know, the whole idea was like an Uber was dropping her off. So I got out of the car. and I like ran to the movie thing because I was like I didn't want to be seen with like my eye pen and shit so I'm like I'm like hey like Joseph and he was so scared he was so shook
Starting point is 00:35:16 he was like trying not to cry the whole time and uh you know I just wanted to find I obviously Doug was like it's it's so bizarre because you get to these guys and they think that they're all their dreams are coming true yeah they're there with like a boner yeah they're like they're fucking happiest day it's all everything I'm reading for and wishing four's happening and then the exact opposite happens it's got to be real off-putting for them yeah one of one of my um alias is is lord blue balls i like to call myself and uh because you know these years are coming in they think that while this fantasy is coming true and then we come to just completely destroy it and um i never like i never really like to get mad i never really like to bully them
Starting point is 00:35:56 like sometimes i like i give them a little pushback and i'm like give me a break but this guy was just so he was just pissing me off because he's a conscious lucid dude and and he was like a whiny little bitch and so i was just like i was just getting really frustrated and i was i was like curt i was yelling at him i felt really bad like in the moment but then when i rewatch the video i'm like oh no fuck him he's an asshole and it's actually pretty funny so and amazingly uh my favorite detective from suffolk uh gregg pranz So he was the responding detective on the scene. I'm like, oh, even better.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Like, this guy is great. So it was a perfect storm. Everything worked out really well. So, you know, you're out here doing a job and a service for society, in my opinion. I think what you're doing is, yeah, we're trying. It's a deterrent to a lot of these people, and you're actually out there catching the ones who weren't scared. So I'm with you. I think that's great.
Starting point is 00:36:58 But the question I have is, Are you ever tempted? Because, like, I've seen a lot of different channels that do this. Are you ever tempted to try to go for more of the entertainment value versus the job? Not. You ever think you've got to keep clicks on this? Does that ever go through your head when you're doing this? Not really.
Starting point is 00:37:16 It's like, you know, priority number one is always to try to, like, you know, interview the person, get, like, earn their trust, get them to admit as much stuff as possible to, like, and then always get law enforcement involved to, you know, hopefully get them locked up and get a conviction eventually. But we do also, like, you know, we want people to, like, want to see it because, one, you know, I mean, I've always been entertained by these, like,
Starting point is 00:37:43 catches, like Chris Hansen even, and, like, watching Alex, like, years before we started working together. And, you know, I've always been, like, in a video production, like, world. Like, it's always been my mindset, like, creative stuff. Like, you know, I've done, like, a bunch of creative work, since college, since high school really. And so there is that element
Starting point is 00:38:05 of like, what's a creative way we can do this and make it like entertaining? Like, but it's always very subtle. I don't want to like, you know, go, I just like a stupid example. We caught this guy, Daniel Neal in East Meadow and
Starting point is 00:38:21 he's like, works in construction. So I throw on a construction vest. Like it's stupid shit. It's like, don't like subtle. little things and like you know it's so it's ever entertainment over the and like you know like
Starting point is 00:38:38 hoping for clicks like like over getting the actual result done but we do want to try to incorporate it because trying to entertain people is in my nature it's who I am and so you know there's a there's a couple questions in the chat that I want to get to in just a minute because they're good
Starting point is 00:38:55 but I wanted to ask you because I was checking out your channel and stuff and everything's long form. Have you ever thought about putting together some more short form clips to try to get people enticed? You know, a lot of these videos now, they kind of show you the conclusion right up front so that you're like, oh, how do we get to that point?
Starting point is 00:39:12 And then you have the long-form video if people are interested in seeing how it all unfolded. Yeah, no, we definitely have some shorts that we have produced already. YouTube has some annoying guidelines about it. And, like, in terms of how much police presence you need and this and that. So I have some of my good friends, like, who I've met over the years who, like, work in production and editing and stuff like that. I just don't have the time myself.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Like, it's like, I have to edit the long forms as it is. And I'm just trying to, you know, emulate the predator poacher style, which is very raw. And, like, doesn't, but they, they do more shorts than I do because they have a much bigger arsenal of people. Like, in the end, like, the primary editors are me and. is slowly becoming an... You're talking to YouTubers. Vidi and I have spent way too much of our time out of big videos.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Yeah, so you know the drill. I'm telling you, though, you've got to mix it up for your channel. I mean, people should definitely subscribe. It's at P.P. Long Island on YouTube. You have almost 30,000 subscribers already, which is fantastic. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Thank you. But, yeah, that's just my recommendation. It's a change. We know, trust us. And we know it'll get, like, more people be like, oh shit, like, Emily actually, she, she's on TikTok. She does a day in the life of dating a predator catcher, so, which is a unique, one of the more unique things I think any group does with this.
Starting point is 00:40:42 So she's going to be starting up her channel. Well, she already has it, but she hasn't been posting or anything. But everyone should also check out Mrs. P.P. Long Island, because we're going to start posting all those TikToks onto YouTube. sometimes they're more than three minutes. Is it MRS or is a spelled out misses? MRS. Wait, M?
Starting point is 00:41:03 M? She's here. M. Get your plugs right. Yeah, one second. Let me make sure. I want to make sure there's a period or not, you know. I think what they need, Carl, is costumes.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Yes. Like, you know how funny it would be if they, if he dresses up like a little stinker, like the little sailor kid with like the lollipop? Hi, I'm 13. That's a fun one. And then you have all the transcripts and like you just walk up to the guy. I'm your date. yeah that's a fun one or or um you know the video we did last week with the guy was a clown
Starting point is 00:41:30 yeah that'd be funny if you show up but it's a clown m rs p p long island cool beautiful all right i'll check that out as well so you know i wanted to tell you my favorite tactic that i love that i saw that you adopted from alex and i want to know how this came about because to me it is so perfect when uh the cops first show up and the person sees the cops and alics will go we'll play cool we'll play cool and then the cop will walk up and go, hey, officer, my name's such.
Starting point is 00:41:59 My name's Alex. This is Jim. And Jim was talking to a 13-year-old girl. You're never going to do that again, right? You're never going to see your picture again. You're never going to send child porn again. And you had it on your phone, but you're going to delete it, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:13 And they just sit there and go, yes, yes, in front of the cop. And the cop has no choice at that point. Of course. It's a beautiful storm. It's my favorite. It's my favorite part of everyone. It's my favorite part. and it's even better
Starting point is 00:42:26 when they believe you. Like, the funniest thing. Yeah, it's like, don't worry. Like, you know, if they ask how to say, like,
Starting point is 00:42:36 we're just shooting an interview about whatever. Like, we're on an auto body shop. We're talking about cars. Like, you know, and then they're like, oh,
Starting point is 00:42:44 cool, thanks. And then the cop comes up and then he fucking is unleashed. And then they're like, yeah, no, because they're so shook
Starting point is 00:42:50 and like, what are they going to do? And the best part is, now the cops have it on their body cam. them confessing so it gives them all the more purpose to take some action so all right yeah that's the question i wanted to check out this is pretty good from jared uh has he ever actually decoyed a fed who was initially posing as a child predator it totally wasn't a legit predator that hasn't happened
Starting point is 00:43:14 yet um you know i can't imagine uh a federal agent trying to infiltrate a group of child predators going out of their way to message a minor like that would that would make a lot of sense you're getting too into your work over there yeah yeah don't bring your work home with you um you're in too deep yeah exactly jared second question i've seen this myself on some of these videos are the cops ever not happily on board uh is there that one real dick officer is just annoyed by it several several yeah it's more common than uh we would like unfortunately i know i see that a lot where the cops just like, oh, I don't want to deal with this scumbag. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Even the last thing we put out with Mitch and that way. I mean, the officer eventually kind of changed his two when he realized we have some grand jury indictments in Suffolk. He was like, oh, okay, wait, no. He was like, yeah, you and your little group and like, you know, there's like real stuff happening tonight. I'm like, this is not, not real? Like, this guy's a fucking child predator.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah, they're lazy. They don't want to do the paperwork. Yeah, yeah, and there's like, don't you know we have to give someone a speeding ticket instead. I'm like, don't you watch. They love doing that little tick-tack shit. Oh, yeah, no. It's almost like they're getting hard when they do.
Starting point is 00:44:33 It's ridiculous. Tell me, if I'm wrong, though, you guys put together like a whole dossier on these guys that you hand them. It's like, your work. Here's your work for you. Yeah, case on a silver platter. Like, you know, but, you know, even still, it's like filing the paperwork
Starting point is 00:44:49 and then, like, you know, it's always a process. Like, you know, few and far between do they get arrested and then they don't get bailed out like it happens thank god like the guy last night he's not uh he's not getting out like he's a tier three sex offender and like when i asked the officers like they they were so hyped like that we got this guy and uh and they were they were amazing kingsston massachusetts bd rock and roll they're awesome and he's being arrained this morning uh david baxter tier three registered sex offender really evil guy. And, uh, they're like, yeah, I don't think he's going to get, I don't think he's
Starting point is 00:45:27 getting out anytime soon. Nikki stabs on these guys, right? Oh, yeah. You know, you want to see how much time again. So do you ever do, uh, videos where you do a follow up to a guy, hey, remember this guy we caught four months ago? Well, he got sentenced today. And yeah, so, so what we do is like on our locals mostly and like sometimes on Twitter and, uh, you know, I, like, we always start on locals like, hey, this guy got this and then like we go with the other ones and post the updates. but we do plan at some point. I don't know when because I have like a little office space
Starting point is 00:45:58 that we're trying to make into a nice little stew situation. And we want to do a show kind of idea called Postcatch Live because after the catches, you know, there's a lot of sitting and waiting around as like the police. We're trying to figure out what to do and everything. Sometimes it's way faster. Sometimes it's six hours. and so me and M are just hanging out, talking on a live, like, about what we're doing and, like, you know, we're engaging with the chat and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:46:28 So it's become a fun little thing, like the PostCatch Live. So we thought, what if we did a show kind of thing called PostCatch Live, where we, you know, we take one of the guys that we caught and we kind of go through, like, the backstory of, like, how we met them, like, things that were said to, like, the, like, the decoy. And, you know, so much of the of the time, like, we're going out trying to find them and not getting them. Like, it happens a lot. Like, I remember, and I learned that with Alex. It's like, he's going, like, hours in one direction. The guy's not there going hours in another direction. And get another guy.
Starting point is 00:47:07 It's a lot of work. It ain't, like, like, always just, like, easy, breezy. There they are. Get them. Like, it'd be nice. She has to put a box with a stick under it. with, like, a child sitting under it? You guys don't just do that?
Starting point is 00:47:21 No, no. I mean, we've tried. It just doesn't work, but, I'm kidding. But, like, yeah, so the journey of itself is funny. There's a lot of, like, ups and downs. There's, like, developments that are really cool and exciting that help us, like, realize. So we do want to do this show.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And then, like, in that, we would incorporate, like, you know, updates about all the other cases we got going on. because at this point now, I think we're at just over 10 arrests out of 31 catches. So, you know, ratio-wise, it's not bad. So, you know, it's just a matter of, like, updating the folks because that's the thing that matters the most is getting these guys locked up and convicted. But the journey to get that is interesting and entertaining, I think. I'm interested in it.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Have you seen Alex catch the same person twice? Yeah, that's happened several times. of course it does that that's amazing people don't learn their fucking lesson on this yeah that's the craziest part to me they never learned I don't think the same mistake twice kind of guy it's like that Matt young character I was talking about earlier it's like that and I don't know you know it's tragic is the first catch we ever did was uh removed from YouTube because the guy I reported it twice and it was like our only video we would have been monetized in the first week had he not done that. But what was even crazier is we were trying to get that other piece of shit guy who had like the producing child porn charges on Valentine's Day. We were trying to do this whole schick of like I was like a social media waiter
Starting point is 00:49:01 with like pick your woman's dessert and it was going to be his penis picture and that was going to lead to the conversation. Now that's entertainment. Exactly. That's the thing. It's like it's entertainment. in, but in the, with the main goal still part of it. You know, we never want to deviate and wear a clown suit or a Santa suit just for the sake of wearing a clown or Santa suit.
Starting point is 00:49:24 It's got to be contextually relevant to get them to speak to. So you don't like my little sailor suit idea with the big lollipop? Well, no, I don't, I don't hate it. If the guy's a navelman, then that's really funny. I'm all about the costumes in an effort to. build trust and a connection to who we're dealing with. Like, we have a guy who's an Army medic. Now, we have bigger plans for that one.
Starting point is 00:49:53 This one's a little bit more infotainment-y and, like, the kind of idea. Because, like, the key word with the Army is recruitment. So we have a little recruiting situation ourselves on what we're playing on doing with this guy. I don't want to give too much away because it's going to be very funny. But, yeah, going back to the first guy we got. he emailed me on Valentine's Day while we're trying to get the guy,
Starting point is 00:50:19 like the piece of shit guy with his girlfriend, and he emails me asking if we can talk again. And I kind of... No, he wanted to... No, he's married with kids and stuff. And it was also his wife's birthday. I didn't know until later. And he wanted to meet up with me to clear the air.
Starting point is 00:50:41 So I was like, okay, we'll meet up. as long as like you swear on your children you're not like coming to like you know like attack me with like a bunch of why would you owe him anything clear the air what's done is done motherfucker we well i i asked alex what he thinks i should do because i'm like is it even necessary to do this he's like well i wouldn't do you of course that you know oh this guy anything you know what i would never want to see these people again no of course i don't mind i would have mind seeing them at the grocer I wouldn't mind seeing him there. But it was, like, I asked Alex, I'm like, what should I do?
Starting point is 00:51:17 Like, the guy is asking me to meet up, but there's this thing I'm trying to do. He's like, well, how's the thing you're trying to do? I'm like, it's not going well. He's like, all right, well, go meet the guy. You'll have a good video at least. And, like, it's because we only had one video at that time. So it's like our channel is pretty slow. And then go talk to him if you want.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Like, I don't know. So, I made a couple of stipulations. I could, like, frisk him and stuff, make sure he has not many weapons. And, like, we're going to record the video and audio. And I gave him a mic to put on. And at first, I tried to have him meet me at my local dive. I could dive bar because why not? And he's like, I prefer the roller skating rink.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Let's meet over there. Right. I was hoping that we can go roller skate and chat on video. I thought we kind of, that's the infotainment. But, but, so he didn't want to talk there because his wife had his location. So he wanted to talk to me outside of the police station. And I'm like, whoa, this is it. So it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I'm very interested in what the fuck's going on. Yeah. Am I allowed to swear, by the way? I've been swearing. Oh, you want. Okay, cool. Awesome. I realize it's 53 minutes in.
Starting point is 00:52:31 I haven't even asked. I apologize. And so the guy, he, he wants to go. the police station because his wife has this location so i'm like does your wife know what happened and he said no he she thinks he got into a fight at the gym and got arrested for it and he has to go back and do fingerprint so he's he's still lying to his wife no he he uh he mentioned that his boss because he was like an auto mechanic or something his boss saw the video because uh crowder actually shared it um uh to kind of like give it an initial
Starting point is 00:53:08 boost because given my Veritas pass I knew people who worked the Crowder so you know it was a nice little situation was very nice and so his boss saw it and fired him so he lost his job and so he was
Starting point is 00:53:22 asking me if I because he already got my video removed off YouTube he was asking me essentially to remove the video trying to offer me money to like he's like I want to help your cause I'm like yeah you do like you got fucked by my cause and and then he asked me
Starting point is 00:53:40 if I was willing to testify and say it was all a misunderstanding. And it's one of my favorite videos that's ever happened to anything. And no one's really seen it because it's like no one saw the first one. So no one understood the context. But you can see
Starting point is 00:53:55 the first one on like Twitter and whatnot. That's, I mean, I should pit it on Twitter because we'll put it on your locals. Yeah. It's on Lopez too. It's on Logan's too. What was YouTube? What was the reasoning for taking it down uh it was something about privacy violation and he he claimed his friend saw it and was like no way is this you and got it removed i'm like but it was you and you were there to meet a 13 year old
Starting point is 00:54:20 and you were arrested on site like you fuck them off so hey real quick uh just uh the the the crowder connection are you are you friends with uh dave landau at all or you ever i know i know of him i don't know him at all we have some shows with him coming up that's why i was curious cool yeah i think uh dave was out before uh my people got there gotcha yeah so i've seen a lot of them do the hey listen i want to help you i want to join your team isn't that the most just despicable it's desperate desperate yeah thing you've ever seen i groveling you asked me earlier about the anger and the frustration that is what that always gets me i always want to fucking but I don't I never
Starting point is 00:55:05 will uh how much the guy offer how much money he didn't give an exact dollar amount he's like I could even donate to your group you know and I'm like I don't want your money like fuck off you're gonna need your money pal you're gonna need a lawyer yeah like if I don't know who the hell his lawyer is
Starting point is 00:55:23 or was but if I you know if he told him here his name is Amir uh Zirinajad I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right but uh who Whoever Amir's lawyer was, if he didn't stop him from coming to meet me and digging himself further, then, you know, that lawyer must cause like two nickels. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Right. Right. Well, Douglas, you've been very generous with your time today. I know we said we go for about an hour with you today. Can we get some proper plugs for you, Predator Poachers, Long Island.com? Yes. Yeah. You can see all our catches early in on center.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I'm actually in the process of uploading the catch from last night there. So if you guys didn't see it last night, check it out. If you guys want to help support us, like, you know, donate. We have cash at P.P. Long Island. It's a dollar sign P.P. Long Island. Venmo is at P.P. Long Island and all our handles, Instagram, X, YouTube. If you type in at P.P. Long Island, you get to see all our stuff. It's a lot of fun. Now, you also gave me your email address, P.P. Long Island 1 at gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:56:31 If you have a tip, if you got tips, you take tips, Douglas, people. We take tons of tips, yeah. You got a creepy family member you want to put them away? You'd be surprised. Douglas, no. Make sure you mention the creep off when you do it. Let them know you came from when you send that tip. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:56:46 That'd be awesome. You would be some good in this world, too, Douglas. I do too. Do you know where our show's based out of Douglas? We're Rochester, buddy. We're Rochester. Get out of here. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:56:56 So next time you're up this way, lunch is on me for you and your girl. I'll whatever I can do to help you guys whatever we can do to help you please appreciate that very much me thank you yeah man my pleasure um we were just in buffalo and niagara and stuff we were close because i said hello you should have next time man now i know rochester that's good a lot of creeps around here i'm sure i'll be back oh dude cops we know the detectives we'll put you in the right we'll put you in the right uh we'll point that's awesome really appreciate that thank you do great work buddy thank you for what you do it's it's good for society thank you all appreciate it we hope to see you again sometime man
Starting point is 00:57:39 hope you'll stop back and hang out with us again absolutely it's a lot of fun thank you guys all right man we'll take care and uh don't forget everybody misses p p p long island yes m rs p p p long island we're about posts uh days in life and down the line body cam footage when the case is closed so that's exciting yeah all right Thanks again, Douglas. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you. Take care. Bye.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Do that answer your questions? Do you feel better now, Vinny? No. You should. You're freaking out. Well, because everything was breaking. Everything broke. We had our guests.
Starting point is 00:58:12 We lost our guest. We did. It was a whole thing. Carl, there's so much crazy stuff going on, but that was good. That was good to talk to him. And I think that he maybe answered your questions a little bit.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Maybe helps you with things you were skeptical about. Of course, yes. Very good. Very good. You want to do a couple of creep stories with me real quick and we'll get out of do this yeah all right cool i'm going to start off well i mean i think we should hit a jingle or something right we're just gonna well it's a scum stream so oh fuck it i'm doing it anyway watch out for the scum parade oh no it's the scum parade
Starting point is 00:58:43 Oh, God for the Skull parade, making Phenny's day, the day. Oh, shit. Here's an update for you. Interesting. I just opened my email because I had to re-pull out this story here, and the FOIA request that we put in for Matt Lewinsky stuff has been received.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Matthew Lewinsky FOIA request has been received. Yes, sir. uh please note most information you are requesting will be heavily redacted i don't care privacy laws i don't care cool that's exciting i want it all buddy i want to i still i still got to give that guy 30 bucks you don't though i do by will but i will though i know he sent me a thing too i got a thing from the creep off like how he's trying to get in touch with everybody and i know you're a very brave man and you want to talk to him i do i do want to talk to what about he might murder he's not going to murder me he's not going to murder me his favorite podcaster
Starting point is 00:59:41 That's true. All right, Carl, let's introduce you to this broad. Oh, wow. Perfect. Why would it work, though, right? You know, man, why would it work today? Just fuck me. All right, here we go. There's she. She's a great mom. This is Sierra and Nicole Brunner. She's 39. She's from Middleburg, Florida, Carl, and she got arrested this week on a felony charge after her daughter went to school with a gun in her backpack. Okay. It sounds like she fucked up, but let's let's hear. the whole story here. She had allegedly packed the weapon in the student's backpack to give it to her father who lives separately before the school day. Yeah. So in other words, hey, this is your dad's gun. Can you give it back to him? And this fucking idiot just walked into school with it without giving it to her dad. The creep here is the daughter. He had one fucking job. Got mom and all sorts of trouble. You had one job. Give dad his gun back. He really
Starting point is 01:00:41 she really did fuck this up. But here's the thing. The father had not been identified, had driven the girl to school and was unaware of the child had the weapon in their bag. Brawner was charged with child neglect and giving a firearm to a minor and taking to Clay County Jail. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:55 you just can't give kids guns. Why would you give like an eight-year-old a gun? Because she's going to see her father and the father wants his gun back. What do you mean? Why is everyone so afraid of a fucking gun? Listen to this. In this article,
Starting point is 01:01:09 it says this could have ended in tragedy. Yes. Are people just scared of guns now? What if I, I might have a gun in my bag right now. Are you scared, Vinny? Oh,
Starting point is 01:01:18 no. There's a gun in a bag. I doubt it's loaded. It's locked. It's this little kid going to figure out how to fucking unlock this thing and load it up. She didn't seem homicidal. Why is it just having a gun in a bag so scary? It's not that big a deal.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Okay. Well, this is some very serious charges. I don't, I don't like this at all. This woman did nothing wrong. In fact, I think it was nice.
Starting point is 01:01:41 to try to give her exes gun back. All right, fair enough. I'm just going to go ahead and tell you right now, kids, do not pack firearms into your children's backpacks. Just a piece of advice from your friends at the creep off. Two places you don't want to go, the airport and school. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Let's talk about this fella here, Carl. Oh, yeah. We're going across the pod for this story. A police officer is captioned on videos. He stole a pair of underwear from a woman's drawer as he was searching her home. Marston Zelensky, he's 27 years old, admitted to stealing the woman's underwear from the property on September 12th, 2024. The officer has been jailed for four months for this. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:26 So first off, horrible reporting. We don't know how hot this girl is. If we can get like a... No, the four months is because she was fat and ugly and he's being jailed for his taste. So I disagree. Here's what I think is going. All right. This is an odd case right here because this guy stole an item that's worth $12 from this woman.
Starting point is 01:02:47 They're used, Carl. Well, I'm sure they're laundered. You can get $30 for him in one of those vending machines. Okay. All right. Good point. But if he had stole like a spatula or something like that, would he be in jail for four months? No.
Starting point is 01:03:00 The reason why he's in jail is because of the creepy factor. What are you going to do with those panties? You're going to go jerk off into them? That's the concern about this, right? Mm-hmm. So I think the hot of the girl, the more time you're going to do. I think that's the correlation right there. And if I'm this woman, I'm going on, I hope it gets a couple of years.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I think I've been keeping myself a pretty good shape. Oh, four months? Give them four months. I mean, four months sounds like she's pretty hot to me, because I don't think you should do a second in jail for sealing panties. I think it's wild that he literally went rooting through her underwear drawer. Well, he was, they were searching. They were searching the home.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yeah. And then he put them in his pocket. Yeah. And then he's just like, oh, these are, these are really cute, actually.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Maybe my wife will like these. I don't think that's why I still. You don't think it was a Valentine's Day gift that he was picking out? I 100% do not think that. Definitely not. But you know what I mean? It's odd that now obviously a police officer
Starting point is 01:03:53 shouldn't be sealing anything from people's property. But I just think the fact that it is panties and they're concerned about what he's going to do, wrap those around his shaft specifically. Sure. You have to catch him red-handed. Like they caught him. stealing him but they got to catch him jerking off into them then he would have gotten a couple
Starting point is 01:04:12 years yes right they're just they're just assuming that's what's going all right so carl so far i have brought any creeps that have impressed you no so far you have not what do you got for me come on bring it this guy bring it we're going to port charlotte florida uh a man is charged after a father said he found this man in bed with his child who happened to be seven years old uh reading a bedtime story. No, laying on top of her in his underwear. Actually, I'm sorry, naked. Laying on top of her naked. That's not good. Yeah, on Sunday, August 17th, the Charlotte County deputy responded to a disturbance at the Port Charlotte home after a caller claimed he caught the suspect in a bed on top of his seven-year-old daughter. According to report, the father of the child, found Daniel DeAngelo, 53 shirtless
Starting point is 01:04:53 with his jeans around his ankles, laying on top of the child. And it said the father immediately grabbed DeAngelo, and the two men began to struggle. The father somehow was able to take two pictures of the suspect they were later provided to the investigators. The report noted those photographs appear to show DeAngel pulling his jeans back up while lying on the bed, hey man, this isn't what it looks like. You're right. The second is a picture of walking out of the bedroom shirtless. God, you know, being the father of a really hot seven-year-old must be tough.
Starting point is 01:05:22 You know, you're just constantly fending up. I knew this day would come, honey, but I didn't think it would come so soon. You can't be bringing boyfriends home. I told you that. The child told authority she woke up to DeAngela Lane on top of her and he was not wearing a shirt see he's taking it too fast where's the romance yeah right you can't just crawl into bed with someone just start taking your clothes off yeah play some some sweet nothings into their ear wake him up be cute with them get him a teddy bear bring him a
Starting point is 01:05:50 happy meal she told deputies he was touching her leg and putting his finger in her ear okay maybe he was trying to get a little foreplay going that is so skeevy to me so creepy uh investigators also so they found a shirt belonging to DeAngelo in the bed. DeAngelo told authorities that he was set up. The suspect was found to be a registered sex offender who was not registered at the location he was staying. How could he be set up to be naked at a bed with a seven-year-old? There's no way that could possibly happen to me.
Starting point is 01:06:19 She came on to me! Yeah, I guess if she called it in my bed, but if I, there's no way I'm in her bed, let's put it that way. Yeah, I have no idea how these people knew him or any of this, but, uh... All right, you got to, that one's a creep, man. I'm going to give you a credit on this one. All right. That guy's a problem.
Starting point is 01:06:35 How about these two? Oh, boy. You think these two are creeps? I do. Okay. All right. I also think they're really stupid. This might be one of the dumbest schemes you've ever heard of.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I'm trying to think in what world this would ever work. It's like, well, read it. I think it's reverse blackmail, but read it. It is reverse blackmail. It is. You nailed it. It's reverse blackmail.
Starting point is 01:06:55 So stupid. So a woman was raped. Okay. Yeah. By this gentleman. The victim had no idea that she had been seen. sexually assaulted until the woman there, Injory Brazine sent her a video that she filmed
Starting point is 01:07:08 of those woman passed out, being having sex with this guy who happens to be her husband. Yeah, so they got her loaded. She's all drunk, passes out. Yep. And the wife here films her husband sexually assaulting her. Now in the video, she's basically,
Starting point is 01:07:26 they use the term choreographing this thing. Like, oh, no, a little. And she was filming from outside of a window to try to make it look kind of hidden. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she contacts this woman on March 15th. She receives a call from her. She accuses the woman, the victim, of breaking up her family for sleeping with her husband.
Starting point is 01:07:46 You fucked my husband. Yeah. And then she says, I'll tell you what. Then she sends her the footage that she took of this woman passed out with her husband Vasili over here going to town on her and demands 5,000 pounds or it's going to be sent to the victim's husband. what are you fucking thinking so you filmed yourself committing a crime and now you're threatening to send it out to people that's the dumbest thing you could possibly do if i'm this victim i'm going
Starting point is 01:08:16 yeah please send it to my husband so i can get it give it to the authority can i get a copy can i get a copy for my records fucking idiot and they they call the victim brave in this article it's not bravery it's common sense yeah someone says i'm going to send the video of you getting raped like yeah please do i'm not giving you any money send it over you idiot so the husband got 12 years in six months for two counts of rape one attempted rape but two counts of sexual assault uh she was found guilty of black now was sentenced to three years and three months in prison give me money or i'll confess to being a rapist that'll teach me let's go ahead man carl i got to show you this uh this video real quick oh okay i want you know i want to know if you know who this fella is
Starting point is 01:08:58 because boy do i got a story for you that just dropped yesterday Oh, nice. Tell me if you know who this fella is. Number seven for my Boston Celtics. Number seven, okay. That is Jalen motherfucking Brown, my favorite player in the league. Love the guy. Finals MVP, one of the highest played basketball players on planet Earth.
Starting point is 01:09:23 His father got in a little bit of trouble this week, Carl. Really? Yeah, his father apparently got into a little bit of a road rage incident over the weekend. Let me read you what happened here. Is this in Boston or where do they live? This happened in Vegas. His dad's name is Quinton Marcellus Brown. He was charged with attempted murder after reportedly stabbing a youth football coach during a parking lot dispute. Oh shit. The elder Brown, who goes by his middle name, was booked into the Clark County Detention Center on Thursday. He's 57 years old. He was arrested for attempted murder charged with a $300,000 bail.
Starting point is 01:09:58 What an asshole! The dispute was over a parking space. It erupted at All-American Park at 5 p.m. Wednesday. One person was stabbed in the stomach and taken to the hospital for surgery. One suspect was taken in custody. The witness in the victim's car told police that the fight began when a passenger in an SUV parked next to their car opened their door and dinged it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I might get a little stabby with that, too.
Starting point is 01:10:21 That's rude. The victim, who has not been identified, got out to check the damage and was immediately confronted by the driver of the SUV, Mr. Brown. This wasn't about a parking spot. This is about digging a car. Brown allegedly confronted the man aggressively and the two engaged in a heated verbal altercation. The victim's girlfriend said she witnessed her boyfriend, slapped the side mirror of the SUV. The verbal altercation then turned physical when the victim's girlfriend said that she saw the man pull out an unknown object and stabbed the victim in the back.
Starting point is 01:10:47 According to the arrest report, another witness told police that the suspect swung his knife 25 times at the victim. The victim was described in reports as a youth football coach and his girlfriend managed to drive away in their car and waiting a different location for first responders. um the victim suffered several stab wounds to the back upper right clavicle and left hand you've been to Vegas in august it's fucking hot man don't fucking ding my car yeah man I can see you having a temper like it's just it's just miserable out there and someone does something you're like what the fuck he's not a murder people I mean I don't know what his relationship is with like jail and but you know you get your car fixed pretty easily I'm pretty sure he's like the highest plate player in the NBA like it's like lebron based on their race I would say they probably don't know each other but who
Starting point is 01:11:31 knows? Oh, Jesus Christ. It's possible they do. Basically, his attorney says that this was all self-defense. The victim claimed he had a gun and he struck my client with his gun. So that's the story they're going with. He's due back in court next Tuesday. All right. So that's a lot of fun. Keep an eye on it. I certainly will. I'm fascinated to find out what happens here. That's crazy. Yeah. So that's what I got for you today, Carl. Excellent. What a fun show. Yeah. Thanks again to Douglas King Jr. from Predator Poeters Long Island, give their channel to subscribe. You know you'll love it. You know you love this stuff. Anything
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