The Creep Off - Episode 282: Four is a Crowd

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

This week The Creep Off heads north to the land of 10,000 lakes to find out who truly deserves the crown as Minnesota’s Biggest Creep. Vinnie and Karl each bring their most disturbing, disgusting, and downright despicable creeps from the North Star State and you pick the winner!The score is currently Vinnie 0 - Karl 0 – Guest 4 visit thecreepoff.com to vote and decide this week’s winnerCheck out this week’s scum parade stories here: Ex-NFL star Mark Sanchez ARRESTED at the hospital after he was 'stabbed in the chest' in shock incident | Daily Mail OnlineOrange County, FL, Firefighter Arrested for Throwing Tampons on Lawn of Ex-Boyfriend | FirehouseMom played 'leading role' in influencing daughter to refuse chemo: coronerMale bus driver who goes by 'Ms Sharon' charged with sexually abusing multiple boysWant more of the madness? Support the show on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to snag exclusive merch and get an extra bonus episode every week!Support free speech! help to donate to Karl & Shuli's Legal fund visit FIGHTHEDABBLER.COMDon’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108You can follow our Results girl Danni on Instagram @Danni_Desolation

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sensation horror shock I'm gonna deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down that ain't funny Disgusting, vomit-inducing thing. Ola creepos, welcome to another episode of your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps by creeps for you creeps.

We're a day late, but hopefully we're not a dollar short. I'm your host. It's Vinnie and joining me in studio. It's hot. Cucka, Carl. What is happening, Vinnie Pauline? I'm excited to be here on a Tuesday because we did miss Super Chat Monday. Which is disappointing.

I like celebrating Super Chat Monday, but we are celebrating something that's even more important today. That's right. Stuttering John's birthday week. We are continuing the 60th celebration of Stuttering John's birthday, and you could do that by giving us money. Give it to us directly. None of that bullshit fight the dabbler.com. Send it over here so your buddy Vinny gets a taste. Jesus Christ.

What an asshole. What an asshole. Good to see you, Vinny. Welcome back. Thanks, man. I had a cannibal roll. run to Connecticut over the last day and a half. So it's nice to be back in Rochester. It's good to have you, my friend. All right. So today's episode, can you hold on one second?

Yeah, what is going on next to you? There is like construction or something that is happening. All I hear is just banging and hammering. Now, we're at the comedy club here in Rochester, and they just opened up a new restaurant or event space behind me here next door in this building. and it's just been nonstop construction going on. And typically we're able to do the show when that's not happening. But, of course, we're here on a Tuesday. We're here on a Tuesday at noon. So no one got the memo that keep it quiet because there's a show being recorded live in progress.

They're all good. All right. They're all good. Were they playing racquetball or something? What was going on? So they're building a storage area that's actually going to be on the other side of this wall, which is going to be nice because then it's always going to be quiet. Oh, but today they're building it.

I got it. Great. Perfect. Love it. So, way to go. Way to go, Carl. Thanks for stalling. I think...

Stop the hammering. Yes, I should have that drop on my board. I think what we need to do right now is find out who won the last episode we did because I'm on GamePoint. You are on Game Point. Let me explain what this game is. So on the creep off, it's a competition. And each week, Vinny and I try to bring the creepiest person in a specific category. We present our campaign.

case for the creepiest person. You guys go and vote at the creepoff.com. We tally up those votes. Our results girl comes on the next week and tells us who won from the previous week whoever wins gets a point. When that person, when a person gets to five, they win the round. The other person has to spin the dreaded

wheel of consequences, and Vinny's up four to three in our current round. This has been a pretty tough competition. You've gotten me on a couple of them. Three. I don't like losing it all. Such an asshole. You know. You're such an assal. You're like, Wow, Carl, you're actually making this one close, kind of.

Yeah, thanks. Carl, how do you want me to treat you about it? I mean, I'm trying to encourage you. I know, you're right. I never fucking win, so right. What are we going to do? I mean, do you pretend that this is a good fair matchup? No, it's not, obviously.

This is like the creepoff sometimes feels a bit like going to a Harlem Globetrotters game. Yeah, yeah. I'm the Washington generals and I'm due. All right, Krusty. Hang tight. Let's find out who won for the creepiest college football player. And I got to tell you, she looks great today, kids. Here she comes. Yeah, but he was hitting on it before the show. I wasn't hitting on anyone. Yep. Hi, Danny.

Hi, guys. What's up? Is me telling you that your makeup looks on point and that you look great, me hitting on you? No, not at all. Carl doesn't know how to talk to women. Okay. Danny, your tits look fucking great. Now who doesn't know how to talk to women? You still.

It's still you. Good to see you, Danny. Thank you for being here on a special Tuesday. May I add? He's right. Now, let's talk about creepiest college football player. We had a show last week.

The results were sent to you by Alex. Who gets the point? This is a big one. It was, and it was very, very close, 51 to 49. So, yeah. Percentage, right? So 51% of the vote this week goes to Vinny and Todd Hodney. Good job, Vinny.

Please. Hey, producer Chris, did you ever to vote this week? Oh, man, Carl. Unbelievable. Now, hold on a second. Hold on just a gosh darn second. Okay. You still have a consequence, too.

Yeah, well, you're the one scheduling it. I know. So I don't know what you want for me. So here's what I'm going to do. Yeah. What are you going to do, Betty? I'm going to do this. You are going to spin the wheel on next week's episode.

Okay. On our wacky wild card wheel spinning show next Tuesday, one week from today. Sounds good. I'm going to have our listeners send in their suggestions for the wheel. We'll take a look at them. We'll decide together. Great. And what we'll do is we'll try to set you up for this Wednesday night.

If you can do it, if you can try to make it up, I'll set you up to do this cinema and do your consequence. Okay. We'll talk about it after the show. Okay. All right. And if you can't do it, I'm not going to just pick your consequence on you this time because it is half my fault for not scheduling it. You could have it on a spin. Okay.

All right. We'll figure it out. It's the perfect week for it. why is that because stuttering john's birthday week that's true we are celebrating stutter john's birthday week do do do do that is a good point danny was that the saddest stream you've ever seen from him did that make you feel bad for him at all carl oh john's yes no it's not the sad as i've ever seen it's so pathetic there there were moments when he was so lonely but then like when his friends showed up he was so happy oh you were so happy when kiani was there and he was hitting on her

he was so happy with that happened how do you think uh his kids celebrating um i bet they forgot i bet they forgot that october fourth is any meaning at all that'd be my guess i hope that aaron's birthday is october fourth actually i hope that they all went to aaron's party instead of John's. Yeah. You're talking about the new daddy. Yeah, new dad. No, no, dad.

Right. They call him dad. Right. Good point. It's getting real personal on here. Yeah, I don't like John very much. I mean either. And especially with this lawsuit shit.

I was joking earlier. If you do want to help the cause, support the First Amendment and make this dabbler suffer, I would visit fight the dabbler.com and maybe throw in a couple of shekels. Yes, we would appreciate that. Our attorney is very famous and very, very good. and expensive Yeah, something comes along with that We're not fucking around

When it comes to hitting John back in the mouth So fair enough, Danny We will see you next week You look great Be back here next week for the wheel spin Danny desolation everybody Danny could have got me a couple votes there I should call up Danny before the show

Like Trump was doing You gotta find me more votes You gotta find some votes there for me Danny Everywhere you can There's got to be some votes Come on Oh man See this is the best consequence suggestion

from a Chet car. Carl has to settle with John. Fuck you. Well, you know what the offer was? I think I could say this, right? Zero. The offer was $0. Zero dollars, but we can never talk about John again.

Dude, we've been very quiet about it on this show because you have to be. But that is so just blatantly frivolous when you're willing to settle for nothing. Vinnie said it. But it is. It's like the definition. If you can't show any damages and you're willing to just walk away from it and the only way you're going to walk away from it

is if you tell two people that they're never allowed to say your name again, please. I believe the word that comes to mind is a bear awusa, dude. Is the word that I was thinking of. I'm offended for you and I know you're very offended. Vinny, should we start off our new round here?

All right, want to ring that bell? Yes. The category this week is creepiest Minnesotan. Yeah. And that's a little dedication to another man who's in trouble. And Aaron getting his jail sentence. We thought we'd celebrate that. Creepest person from Minnesota.

It's nice to know that the state of Minnesota could get them right every now and again. Right. Maybe not necessarily in Aaron's case. But, you know, every now and again they get them right. Carl, what I would like to do is start off by introducing you to my creep today. This is Clifford, Robert. Leturno, the third. Now, starting back in 1994, he got himself into a little bit of trouble, and it's been downhill

ever since, my friend. 1994, he picked up a felony theft in Wright County. Two years later, more felonies, theft, stolen property, a Czech forgery case. And by 1997, three years later, he graduated from stealing to second-degree criminal sexual conduct, which, from what I could tell. There's not a lot of records on what he actually did. I had to look up the charge and figure what that is. He was doing creepy.

He was either groping or jerking it in public. Okay. He's a good-looking guy. I'd probably just wouldn't like settle down with him with a girlfriend or something. Dude. That's a good-looking guy to you? It's a joke. I thought you liked the little skinny guys like Adam.

It's a comedy show. Fuck you. I didn't know you were into this. Who are you talking to, Rob Saul? Where are you going to get your facts from? Again, that's a human being, not a dog. What show are you watching? so hits keep coming Carl by 2001 he's got felony attempted theft somewhere around 2003 he does

have a nice little relationship or at least he got laid because he had a daughter he never spoke to and then another sex crime in 2004 followed by failure to register as a predatory offender in 2005 that same year the state finally said enough with this motherfucker and they petitioned to have him civilly committed as a sexually dangerous person All because he was just out there Jagging it, jacking it, jacking it, jacking it, spikein it, spikein it smack. I think this motherfucker is grabbing. Okay.

I think he's titty grabbing. So he's now, by 2018, released from this, and he moves to a Ham Lake, which is a quiet suburb, where he lived a relatively normal life until 2022, when out of the blue carl, a phone call changed his life forever. Oh, yeah? Yeah. his long, lost daughter was able to track down the father she never met before. Isn't that phenomenal? That's fantastic.

Isn't that beautiful? It is. I love to hear stories like that. I've known a few people who are adopted. And they live their lives with a lot of uncertainty, always wondering what could have been. Yeah. You know, wondering who their parents could have been. Imagine.

Probably Rockefellers, I would think. Sure. Sure. But wouldn't she be let down when you find out your dad's a deadbeat sex offender? Yeah, that'd be a bummer. Yeah. I'd be like, all right, well, it's good I didn't know that guy. But you want to know the good news?

What's that? The good news is that it didn't bother her too much on account of she was a slow with the mentality of a 10 to 12 year old. Oh. And she is 10 to 12 years old, though, right? No, no, no. She's 19. No, that's not good.

Yeah. Lucky old cliff, right? Yeah. So the daughter who is only named in court papers as A.B. lived with another handicapped capable gal who was 19-year-old as well, and that she's referred to as K.L. in the court papers. They were independent, but they were part of a state-run program. So they lived independently with each other as roommates, but they also, you know, they were on some type of disability on account of. Yeah, that sounds dangerous. Okay.

Well, the mother, K.L's mom was very involved in her life. I have no idea where A.B.'s mom was. But they would sit there and talk in their living room, you know, while they put skittles in their noses and lick things. they would sit there and talk about how she always wanted to meet her dad and guess what they decided to do one night? They got out the phone book. Okay. And they learned that phone books were a thing. Who knew?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they didn't get internet access. But they got a phone book and they found his listed phone number, Carl. And she made contact. And over the next few weeks, she started inviting her dad that she never knew over. And K.L. would later tell investigators that she first started noticing inappropriate behavior. from our boy Robert Clifford Robert over here at Arby's birthday party

when Laterno got drunk and allegedly chased his new daughter around the yard tried to give her birthday spanking Oh come on, that's just fun. Okay. You know, how do you try to like rekindle something with a daughter you never knew, you know,

you try to relive those moments to maybe you missed out on? Yeah. He was a cool dad though. I bet. He started visiting a lot and always stopping by with booze for these underage slow gals.

Okay. That's not great. Yeah. Well, the roommate reported later that Lachrto bought alcohol for them and tried to take advantage of both women at times. Like you get a little hansy and be like, come on, gals, why don't you to kiss? I mean, this guy needs them to be slow and drunk. This guy has no game at all.

Yeah. Well, at least you think he's hot. Eventually, he entered into a romantic relationship with his own daughter, Carl. Yeah. That's not great. Yeah. But that didn't stop him from still trying to fuck the roommate. Okay, yeah, yeah, three sub, three sub.

The roommate said she refused Leterno's sexual advances, and he often refused to leave. At one point, he stood in her bedroom door and would not let her leave and telling her she was not leaving the room. And then he held her down and essayed her. Oh, that's not good. According to her. Now, the roommate told police she had no choice that she was afraid Leterno would hurt her, and she did not report under any of the circumstances earlier because of fear of Leterno. then early spring of

2023 so he's been in the picture for about five or six months A.B. the daughter told the roommate that she had been having sex with her father and that she thought she may be pregnant with her father's child. You know

no one told me there was going to be boasting fine you're getting laid on the wreck all right good for you well that's when KL decided to tell her mommy what had happened. Okay. Who was absolutely floored by this because the mother apparently didn't know this dad was showing up at all. Well, the mom should know his pull-out game is weak. She shouldn't be that surprised by this.

He's just showing up and getting them all drunk. And so I think that they both thought they would get in trouble because they were underage drinking with this guy. So they were trying to keep everything. They will get in trouble. So you better not tell anyone. You'll get just as as much trouble as I'll get it to. Now, the police showed up and they had to have a conversation with this guy, obviously. Uh, this slow girl says your daughter is pregnant. with your child yeah you're your own grandpa he says listen

I have been banging them both he's looking for high fives but I didn't rape the other one it was consensual right it was all consensual yeah they're into it how can they not be into me look at me

investigators prosecutors didn't buy it they charge it with third degree criminal sexual conduct and incest a first degree sexual conduct charge was filed wait that's a law in Minnesota you're not allowed to have sex with your daughter correct oh weird I had no idea okay I know I mean Tim Walls is running around and we're all like oh look at him good reference so a first degree sexual conduct charge was filed but later dismissed but then the state was like no no no no no he did are that girl

and uh the state appealed and it took a little while, but the Minnesota Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court agreed that they needed to reinstate the charges that this guy did use for us. So, at the moment, Robert Clifford Latterno remains behind bars in the Crow Wing County Jail on a $750,000 bond. He is described as an ingrained offender who spent nearly his entire life preying on others. His bond, like I said, $750,000 with no conditions. They're not letting him out. And that is where he says. He said, until he stands trial for all of these accusations. What's up with the pregnancy?

There's no nothing other. I think that they probably knew that. Hopefully, yeah, they probably terminated that. I'm pretty sure. I think you do that in the case of incest. Yeah. It's not Alabama. They probably frowned upon that sort of thing.

I would think, right? Correct. Yeah, okay. Correct. Minnesota's a little more civilized than Alabama. All right. Well, Vinnie, I brought a creep from Minnesota. Before I do that, I want to get caught up.

on our Suthering John birthday week celebration that we're doing here because we have a lot of people who are celebrating with it's like silent shape became a member on our YouTube channel so did Pete thank you very much so did gamble so to dare like Derek Carl Derek good to hear from you buddy hope you doing well preacher bill nice became a member and Pope Girl 76 became a member this is good because we just put out a bonus show on Friday hot for teacher if you're a member on the creep off YouTube channel you can watch that yeah we're going to get to that in just a little bit after your presentation because we put up a poll to find out who

you all thought was the hottest teacher and now we're going to give you the results of that nice merlo williams thanks for the fiver first time catching live and celebrating super chat tuesday viny winnie the people's chance thank you merleau champ rock o'rb two thousand and two totally digging viny's amish gopnik look i think he's being sarcastic i think he thinks you look terrible oh i thought i looked good today all right red jared c thanks for the five whoa i thought you guys had branded to the slut off. I'm dressed like this for nothing. We did talk about that. Good call, Red Jare and C.

No, you keep that on until we tell you to take it off. Labrined Mystic, thanks for the two bucks. Sorry, Carl, I owe you a vote and a voice. Now, you owe him nothing, sir. Yeah, a little late on that, sir. Tuckie's unpaid staff, nasty Neil getting in some real shit. What did nasty Neil do?

Dude, I can't keep up with all these freaking losers that hang out with stuttering John because yesterday on point-dabble point, I find out, that there's a bad blood between Clay Dabbler and who's the other jackoff that goes on there.

Rob Saul. Rob Saul. And then, you know, you got Mr. Kill, everything's in the mix and nasty kneel. I can't keep up with all these losers. What are we doing here? Stuttering John's the guy we're watching. Do you realize that, like, we're watching Letterman Leno when we watch KB

versus Stuttering John? Is that what we're watching right now? They're just stealing each other's guests. You're right. They're antagonizing the shit out of each other Midday wars Well pretending to be cordial and friends And just taking shots at each other Whatever the fuck

Yeah Early evening wars Yeah The Battle of the Slow All right Carl All right well thank you for let me get caught up And let me present my creep The creepiest person from Minnesota

Is Ming Sen Shui Ming Sen Shui moved to Minnesota from Taiwan When he was eight years old His hobbies were throwing rocks at cars And setting apartment buildings on fire Cool When he was 15, he developed a crush on his ninth grade math teacher, Mary Stoffer. He started writing stories about his fantasies and included consensual sex, rape, and gang rape.

He was really into this chick. You probably had a teacher like that in school, right? Oh, yeah, man. I used to write my gang rape fan fiction about my art teacher. I knew it. No. Well, yeah, everybody had a crush on their teacher. So that's when he was 15.

Or in Carl's case, his coach. That's when he was 15, but you know what? He never stopped being into this chick. even after he's out of school and actually 10 years later he decides you know I still want to plow that ninth grade math teacher I had

Mrs. Stauffer was pretty fucking hot hold on a second 10 years later 10 years later he's one of those arrested development guys who's still thinking about high school oh yeah and he's thinking about the conquents

he got uh kind never mind I don't even know what word I'm trying to say right now conquests that he missed out on he's still thinking about though he's still fantasizing about it

to the point where he goes to a home where he thinks she's living because it is her family it's actually her in-laws are living in this home he forces his way into the home has her in-laws go to the ground ties them up

and threatens to kill them if they ever report the crime so they don't what? Yeah five years later so listen to this okay hold on

hold on he goes to her in-law's house hoping that she's going to be there she's not there she's not they tie her up and they breathe a word to no one about it. They don't tell anyone because he goes, if you tell anyone, I will come back and kill you.

And they're like, okay. So they didn't tell their son, the daughter, anybody? No, they did not. That's insane. And the reason why he couldn't find Mary is because she's over in the Philippines working as a Christian missionary with her husband. Okay. But five years after that,

she comes back to Minnesota. Well, I'm sure he's over her by now. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. He actually starts stalking her. He's very excited that she's back. Well, what did you do for the last five years? He's watching her through the window every day. He's following her when she goes out and does things.

He even knew where the spare key was stored for their apartment. You knew how to get in if he wanted to. Well, all those fake rocks look the same. Right. It's true. It's easy. Then he found out they're going back to the Philippines. And he's like, well, I've got to make my move now.

I'm going to lose Mary Stauffering. Oh, so did he kind of like a meat queue to kind of like. Kind of, yeah. So before they leave for the Philippines, Mary takes her daughter, Beth, eight-year-old, cute little eight-year-old Beth, to the hair salon. Like, let's get you a nice haircut before we head over to the Philippines. Because God knows we won't be able to get you out over there. Right. But your nails will be on point.

That is true. Ming Senhui knows that they're going to the hair salon, is waiting for them outside when they come out, and holds them up at gunpoint and makes Mary get in the car. and drive, and he's telling her where to go. He's holding a gun to Beth's head the whole time Mary is driving this car. After about an hour, after about an hour, they all get out of the car, and he decides to tie them up, duct tape them together, and throw them in the trunk of his car. The daughter and the mother. His love.

So now he's driving, okay? And they're just in the trunk bouncing around, but as they're doing that, they're trying to get on tide. And they're making a lot of noise while they're doing that. So he realized he's like, oh, okay. I hear what's going on back there. He stops the car, pulls over, gets out, opens the trunk, and sees that the daughter, Beth, is completely free. Okay. And she didn't untie the mother?

Well, she hadn't yet. No, because he heard what was going on. Got it. They hadn't gotten to that point yet. Okay. The problem is, there's this six-year-old kid, Jason Wickman, who just happens to be riding his bike in the area, and he sees that this car pulls over frantically, is looking in the trunk. He's like, hey, mister, everything all right? What's going on?

And he sees these people tied up in the back. And so Ming goes, well, I can't have witnesses. Graves the kid, throws him in the trunk, slams the trunk, starts driving again. So now there's three of them with the trunk bouncing around. They don't know where they're going. They drive for a while. And I guarantee you, he doesn't sound like he's a good driver. No, he definitely is not a good driver.

So they stop somewhere. And after a while, and then he gets out of the car, he opens up the trunk, takes Jason out of the trunk, takes Jason out of the trunk. and beats him to death with a metal rod leaves the body. Well, to be fair, he wasn't in his fantasy. Right. Yeah, Jason has no place of this sexual fantasy that he has.

Yeah, well, I mean, three's a crowd, Jason. I'm sorry, four is a crowd, Jason. Right, yes. So then he brings Mary and Beth to what is their new home. And if you want to play my clip number one, Mary will actually describe this for us. They have a new home?

Yeah. there was a light bulb with a pull chain there was a scatter rug on the floor and two small throw pillows and that closet became our home for the next seven and a half weeks mary was repeatedly raped by her kidnapper you'll make love to me the way you did to your husband now you might notice there that that is some real wishful thinking of the casted yes alison hanigan was cast as mary stoffer in the lifetime movie yeah and About this. When you actually see the real woman, you would assume that Maggie Smith should be playing her. Yeah, all right. Well, let's not get too insulting on Mary here. That's not the point. By the way, Allison is my girlfriend, so I did watch a lot of this movie.

So it's fun that they get to live in this closet together, the mother and the daughter. The daughter doesn't get to come out very often. The mother gets to come out just about every evening in order to get raped repeatedly by this guy. That's really bad. While this is happening, there's a nationwide search for Marion Beth, as well as a nationwide search for Jason. No one knows that it's the same. Oh, nobody just found Jason. No.

No one knows it's the same perpetrator. And this is going on for weeks. What did he do with Jason? I need to know this. So he just left the body somewhere in a park where no one found him. Unbelievable. I know. This is crazy.

So there's people are losing hope, right? Because you have these people, Mary and Beth have been gone for weeks at this point, and there's no evidence. Her husband's dating again. Right. Well, actually, it's funny you bring up the husband because on Father's Day, 30 days in to them being held captive. Okay. He decides, you know, when it's Father's Day, Beth, I'll let you call your dad and wish him a happy Father's Day. Aw.

Isn't this nice? This whole episode's about fatherly love, isn't it? Isn't it this sweet? So my clip number two, the FBI was recording this call. This is the actual phone call from 8-year-old Beth to her dad on Father's Day. Hello, Irv speaking. Hello, Dad. Yes, Bethy.

Are you okay? Yep. Is Mommy okay? Yes. That's good. Oh, I'm... Yes? Happy Father's Day.

Oh, thank you so much, sweetie. You're fine, Dad. Oh, I'm so glad. We can't talk anymore. Um, when can you come home? I don't know. Can I talk to me a crazy? Can I talk to him?

No. Okay, you call again. Okay. Bye, bye, bye, sweetie. Okay. Okay. Most Minnesota accent. Yeah.

You're okay? Yeah, we're okay. Is that crazy or what? This fucking guy thinks that he thinks his daughter must be dead. And he gets a phone call on. I'll say, oh, hey, daddy. Holy shit. I like how he's like

that guy handled it pretty well He handled it very well Yes But I would You can hear his voice He was freaking out I was waiting for the daughter To say when

Is mom okay And she goes She's fine She's so much more relaxed After dinner She always has a cigarette She's getting good She's getting on the rag now

Oh no So this guy starts treating them Like they're a family He takes them on a trip to Chicago They go to the fireworks On the 4th of July Probably a Cubs fan. He's bringing them out.

What's wrong with that? Everything. How dare you? He's bringing them out to watch fireworks. And one day, while they're being held captive in this closet, this is the 53rd day that they've been prisoners here in this closet. Finally, Mary decides there's got to be a way out of here. And she's actually able to unlatch the door hinge. And how many weeks later took her to realize that?

Seven and a half weeks. Well, you've got to remember. And during all of this, he keeps threatening them. Like, if either of you try to escape, I will kill the other one. Or I'll go and hunt down your family and kill them. He's very mean about the consequences of, you know, doing things he doesn't want you to do. It's very weird, like, juxtaposition because the guy's taking him to go see fireworks and going on trips. Right, because he's got a fantasy that, like, they're a couple.

And then he just turns around. He's like, oh, by the way, I'll kill you. Yeah, he's very vindictive like that. So when that woman gets out of the closet, does she go running away like William H. Macy's wife in Fargo and just like fall down the stairs and die. Actually, what happens is when they're out on a trip one of these times, she sees a police car. This is before 911.

She sees a police car and there's a phone number on it. She memorizes the phone number. And so days later, she finally escapes the closet, gets on the phone, calls the police. What year are we talking? 1980. Okay. I didn't realize that. All right.

Calls the police. And the police are like, all right, stay in the house. We're going to send units. And they're like, we're not staying in this fucking house. So they go outside. Clip number three, I think probably sums to something other than I am. Oh, no, what was that area quote again? Yeah, right?

Mary Stauffer, 36. Beth Stauffer, her eight-year-old daughter. Kidnapped, chained, abused for 53 days. But they escaped, and Ming Senchu was arrested the same day. During the trial, he attacked Mary, leaving a scar on her face. Oh, no. He even hired a hitman to kill her, but she survived and made sure Ming would never terrorize. anyone again how did she do that she murder him dude this is crazy somehow this guy got a

knife in the courtroom and jumped over started straggler and actually cut her mouth with the knife that you saw the the injury there you know what it sounds to make these courts aren't very safe in minnesota no so now i'm kind of with it yeah now i understand the hr o's thing right makes sense um that's horrible so the he tried to hire a guy a hitman to kill her for $50,000. The guy went immediately to the FBI. He's like, yeah, this guy's trying to hire me to kill this pitch. I don't know what it's problem is. So he didn't do a good job vetting the hitman for that. Well, listen, people, there's really no such thing as hitman is hitman. You're not going to find one in the yellow pages. You're not going to find one with the Google

search. So stop looking stupid. Well, this guy was in jail. So there's that. Okay. So I guess there's a possibility. That's your best shot. Yeah, that is your best shot. It didn't work out. I want to talk about what a creep this guy is. This all sounds pretty. horrific but this is actually the I believe the icing on the cake my my clip number four he talks about what he told mary if he ever did serve prison time this is him this is him actual him well she's going to tell it okay he said even if I get put in prison for a very long time when I get out I'll go after you and if you're dead I'll go after your kids guy's a fucking problem guy's a real problem then you know what I am going to go out of

him and say, I actually believe him. Yeah. Yeah, he sounds like he's got a screw loose there. Yeah. I do have one more clip on here, just more about the Lifetime movie abducted the Mary Stauffer story with my girlfriend is the lead. Clip five. The Minnesota high school math teacher was with her eight-year-old daughter, Beth, when she was kidnapped at gunpoint. Be walking to your car. The terrifying moment is recreated in an upcoming lifetime movie abducted The Mary Stauffer story, starring Allison Hanigan. I said try. The acting's actually terrible.

I don't recommend you watch that movie. His girlfriend sucks at acting, Carl. She's good, but not in this. Not in this one. Okay, I got to know, because, like, Allison Hanigan. Yeah. I wouldn't, she's a beautiful woman. Sure.

Where did you first develop this crush? American Pie. Really? Of course. And then she was in Maxim Magazine. It was the band camp thing, wasn't it for you in your door? Maybe. Maybe that's what it was

Carl wants the band Geek Then she was in Maxim And the rest is history Okay Although I never was a Buffy fan though Nobody likes Buffy How dare you

How dare you Never got into Buffy Why would you She played a lesbian on the show You'd think I'd be into it But yeah Go figure Yeah

anyway that's my creep vote for you thought brought the bigger creep from Minnesota at the creepoff.com so what you're saying to me is you think the television show Buffy was so bad that your teenage crush was leasinged out on it and you still wouldn't watch it listen I think that the first two seasons weren't very good then they added some characters later on in the series that made it a lot better but at that point I wasn't already into it so I didn't really recognize but you've had all this time to go rewatch and I've also been asked you by my wife because she rewatches it all the time and you're still like no thanks i've seen some i've seen some episodes i've seen some scenes and stuff there's some good acting

at it really yeah what do i'm going to say that both of my loves are in the show buffy is that what you're trying to get me to say here yeah i mean you have a vested interest you're cranking it to half the cast right i was determined by a stuttering john that i'm probably by a stuttering john that i'm probably So I've always got some more evidence on that. You know, Vinny, before we get into my cop cam video, I think we're still celebrating. Someone said Super Tip Tuesday. I believe we're celebrating Stuttering John's 60th birthday week. Do do do do up.

Hellraiser 69. Hey, Vinny. Will you be featuring for Bobby Kelly this weekend? Oh, hey, Carl. No, I will not. I will not be on those shows this weekend with Bobby. I'm still waiting to hear if I'm on some. shows the following weekend.

Yeah, I reached out to that, gentleman. I haven't heard back yet. Oh. Well, he's busy getting married. He just got married. Fair enough. Michael P. My Tuesday is more fun now.

Go Bills. Go Bills. Hell yeah. Except for the go bills part. Joe, that says things, this guy sounds like a real jerk. This guy sounds like a real jerk. We should have that on the board. I probably had it before.

Tuki's unpaid staff, thanks for the five. I'm not sure what the issue is. Carl, he's in love, you know? He was in love. That is very true. Yeah. You know, everything that guy did almost as bad as impregnated in your slow daughter. No, I would say it was much worse because it took place over 15 years' time.

But, uh, we're talking, this is the creep off, Carl, not the, not the, uh, this guy's living your fantasy off. This guy's a creep. Well, speaking of creeps, before we do our cop cam, you know what, let's take a minute. Okay. And talk about what we did on our bonus episode on Friday. Yeah, it was a fun episode. on it sure was carl we did let me make sure i have it here for everyone and uh yep of course here we go we got it boom we asked you who is the hottest teacher slash predator carl

and we put it up there we talked about all of the cases with these we went through the top ten hottest teachers who fuck their students that's it and uh there was a pretty tight race but i could tell you who our winner was, Carl. Okay, yeah, I'm interested. I didn't see the results yet. Well, the winner is, according to our listeners, number four, Haley. Oh, yeah. Clifton.

Oh, yeah. I gave her a pretty high score, I remember. Very cute girl. She is, but again, I didn't like this picture of her. I wasn't care for that. It's fine. But best fucking mugshot. Best mug shot by far.

It looks like three different people, if I'm being honest. Yeah, that's her. So good job, everybody. Thank you. And if you want to watch the whole episode, make sure you check out The Creepoff on patreon.com. We have a very special bonus episode coming up later this month. Weight Watchers number three. That's true.

October 29th. All right. So now, Carl, let's do a cop cam, shall we? I can't wait to see Carl's Cockcam. Fight with the cops for no reason. Will you please show me, Carl's Cockham? Lose all your rights Ruin your life

This one comes in from our buddy Boner Guy Over in the UK, Boner Guy 69 sending this one in And we see a vehicle That's pretty trashy There's writing all over it And apparently the passenger was like hanging out the window

Would they just get married? No, no, no, definitely not Okay The passengers hanging out the window And the cops see that And they go, he's not wearing a seatbelt So they decide to pull the car over, and this is the walking up. Hello, good afternoon.

Hi. Hi, I'm Officer Stanley, Cuggle Beach Police Department. Hi. Hey, the reason for the stop is I had reasonable suspicion. Your passenger might not be seat belted in. So that was the reason for the stop, okay? Okay. Do you have a driver's license for me?

I do. In my first. Okay. No, no, you can just stay here. Are you the registered owner of the vehicle? I am not. What's he reaching for? Okay, I wanted to make sure

Okay, so the shirtless guy in the passenger seat Seems a little shady I'm just going to go back here Just a few frames of this image Yeah, that is Clay Dabbler everybody That is Clay Dabbler That's his face Damn it! Revealed

No, this dude, the way he just jerked his head into that seed I'm going to go ahead and pop I wanted to make sure Oh, the way he did the head bob Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and call meth on this. Okay. Out of the gate early.

Interesting theory. So she says he hasn't slept in over 24 hours. Uh-huh. So that would be something that a meth head would do, not sleep. Let's talk about meth, baby. Let's talk about a yes, sir, re. Let's talk about all the bad things and the bad things, meth heads see. Let's talk about meth.

And apparently, this meth had was able to convince Miss Piggy to take him out for errands. Apparently, I believe there's a relation there. So the police officer goes back to his school. squad car to run the license and figure out what's going on. And that's where we pick up in a clip number two. Oh, he's getting out of the passenger side. Stay in the car. He's flicking him off.

Stay in the car. I will. I won't ask you twice. I'm in the car. I'm in the car. What are you talking about? 42. Keep an eye on the passenger.

It's a possible signal 20. 10, 4. So they think he's wasted. I can go, stay in the car, stay in the car, I won't ask you twice. Well, we just learned something. Did he say Code 20? Code 20. That also, for those of you were listening, sometimes this segment's a little hard for you.

But there was some in the subtitles that said code 20 signed for intoxicated individual. Yes, I'm sorry. I should have explained that. Good call. So now we find out what this guy's all about. My clip number three, I didn't know that a car. could also be this. Oh, no, I just saw the title of this.

What was that? I'm sorry. I was just volunteering in Matthews, Coco. I was on the phone with you earlier. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm the one who called to make sure that you were okay. Yeah, I'm driving because he had the clubs in a while. Like 24 hours.

At least. And I do not. Okay. So, Melissa. I'm going to have you step out of the vehicle because I need to speak with you, okay? Okay. I can get in the front seat. You can stay where you are, sir.

I sit in the front seat, during my own car and my own church. This is actually a church. This is a church. 27, you're going to want to go over here. Just so you know, this is a church. Okay. This car is a church, Betty. Did you pay taxes on that car?

How does that work? Nope. Pretty sweet. I'm going to try that next time I'm at a dealership. I'm going to walk up and do the sign of the cross in front of a fucking Acura and be like, hey, do you see, you hear that cop, like, oh, this guy's crazy. He's calling for backup immediately.

It's like, I don't want to have to deal with this asshole. Well, I did notice what you were saying. There is writing on the side of the car. Yeah. And I want to back up here just to see if I could read what some of that says. Paul Wall, the people. Is that FUQ that he wrote on there? Yeah.

Fuck. I think it's a lot of political stuff. oh that he's written on here it looks like um it's a very liberal church yeah it seems like they love their art there all right so um my clip number four they're trying to ask melissa the driver here like hey is he okay we're worried about this it's all right he's are Melissa seriously are you okay i am okay he is having probably another manic episode please sir turn the vehicle off before you do so he's locking himself in the vehicle this escalates

when he feels threatened or he gets upset that's why i was just trying to get him home i need you to step out of the vehicle that's my crime all right so i'm going to go ahead and say yep i was reading that time i took a little bit of time to read what was on the side of that car it is a very deep religious uh political message. Okay, makes sense. He wrote Sadducees on the side of the car, and for those of you biblical scholars out there, you would know that the Sadducees were the liberal Jews.

Okay. Yeah. You could have just made that up. I would have no idea. I didn't. The Pharisees were the really conservative ones. The Sadducees were the ones who were just like rolling with the punches and the cool ones. Now you'll notice at the end of that clip, he says, what's my crime? And you see a little counter show up on the screen there. He's going to say, what's my

crime a lot. Oh, I thought the counter was to be for all of the crimes he's about to commit. Well, maybe some of that, too, because resisting might be one of them, spoiler by clip number five. We're going to try to talk him out of the car. He's very escalated. I understand. What's my crime? Resisting. I'm not resisting. Yet, then open the door now. No, I'm not. If we have to break this window, you're going to jail. That's all I would need to hear. church windows are expensive that's a good point right so the sergeant shows up

and the guy needs to describe to the sergeant why he wants this guy out of the car it's kind of a fun little recap on what's been going on I mean how many people do you need to get to drag a meth head out of a fucking car we're going to find out really the sergeant's got to waste his lunch break when she got out to speak with this officer

he jumped in the passenger to the driver's seat resisting he's already had to be told to get back in the car I'm afraid he's either going to drive off or drive over us. That was the reason for getting him out of the car. He is resisting that lawful order. That makes me feel a little better. Yeah, well, the problem is he needs to get out of the car.

Out of the car. Do you think she could talk him out, Bats, or would it be too dangerous? Sean, open the door. All right. So he just moved back over to the past. passenger seat. They're still trying to coerce them. Hey, man. Why I just get out of this car for us, buddy? Come on out. Go on now. Have they thought about maybe goldfish crackers, like a trail of goldfish crackers away from the car? I don't think they brought any of those

with them. Because this guy looks squirrely enough to go for something like that. Vinny always has goldfish crackers or cheez-its everywhere he goes. Emergencyes. Yes, of course. My next clip here, I believe we're on number seven. This is the action scene. This is where shit goes down. here we go he's reaching for things in the car pop the window unlock it and i'm dragging him out My crime. Get out. What's my crime? What's my crime. What's my crime? Oh, he's getting Taze. Oh, he's getting days. I'm not resisting. I'm not resisting. What's my crime? What's my crime? What's my crime? What's my crime? What's my crime? What's my crime? What's my crime? What's right? We're at 32 if you're counting. 33. 33. Yeah. He just keeps yelling, what's my crime? And they're just saying, sir, get out of the vehicle. And now we'd like you to roll on your stomach so we can handcuff you. I just need to comment on fucking shorts.

This fucking cop stinks. This cop stinks. When they show him from the other angle, he's just kind of like, eh. He's like, tapping it. And this window is breaking, like, tissue paper. Yeah. Like wet tissue paper. He's just like, eh.

Well, I mean, I suppose he's trying not to, like, get too much glassing of flying in of the passenger. Maybe he's trying to be careful with that. It's Florida, Carl. all right well minnie i don't know these motherfuckers should be letting an alligator into the car to chase him out that would be fun they should be bringing in the cop gator cop gator um so minnie i noticed that the guy got tased you didn't seem all that excited about it well don't worry he does get tased again in my next clip what i don't understand there is they didn't

need to tase him at that point they could have dragged him out they just wanted to why not why i would have do yeah all right is my crime ready hey alissa Melissa, tape, tape this, tape this. Fuck you. Oh, fuck you. Why? Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this to me?

Why? Why? Why are you doing this to me? Turn over now. Go ahead and tase me again. Stop. Go ahead and take me again. Roll over on your stomach.

Go ahead. Roll over. Go ahead. Go ahead and f***ing tase me again, bitch. Go ahead. Yeah. Use success. of force.

Oh, so he's trying to goat them into doing shit. That's no way for a reverend to talk. Right? I know. The leader of the church? I don't like that at all. Yeah. So he's saying, Taze me again.

Melissa, filmed this. We're going to have this great case. I'll be able to sell the church for a bigger church. I'm going to have to go find a new Elantra. Right. To go to church it. This guy, he likes it too much. Go ahead.

Taze me. Now, use excessive. Now, Vinny, it's funny, like, when he requests things, he doesn't necessarily get what he requests, but he does get excessive force, in my opinion. You'll see that in this next clip. Hey, Carl, what was in his hand? Well, he's got, he's got his phone in his hand. It looked like he had a weed pipe and a lighter. Oh, maybe.

All right. Excessive force is your, is that on? Glasses off. He just ripped his glasses off. Is that on? Oh, there comes the Mace. Go ahead and Macy. I don't care.

What? Go ahead. No, they just did. Fuck you. What's my crime? They blasted this guy in his open eyeball. Yes, with Macy. He goes, I don't care.

Three inches from his face. Dude, this guy is feeling no pain. He's on something. He's on something right now because that's pretty crazy. He's wondering if the body cam is on. Is this thing on? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're watching it. Don't worry. We got, we got this. So I do have a question on the church in his car now that I'm thinking about it. If you have church in your car, is Jesus your co-pilot? Or is it technically like the assistant pastor? Jesus is your car insurance. There it is. All right. So now they've got to get him into the squad car. That's my next clip here. Okay. Well, he likes to be in cars. He does.

It is my crime. Come on. What is my crime? 53 now. I can't see anything I can't see bro you're smart or just a second you're right you don't care about me all you care about is your feelings

sit in the car get in the car I can't see you sit down and we'll get you wiped out sit down yes okay bro

what the fuck he goes you don't care about me all I don't care about is your feelings I don't know where that came from sounds like something this fucking energy drainer has said many times to people right so you'll notice that he was feeling no pain getting tased getting maced whatever well reality starts to kick in my my clip number where are we 11 yeah yeah i like how he said i can't see because you tased me no dummy

that's not it right pepper spray was the mace oh fuck let's get does anybody get a bottle of water we can get water on his face? Yeah, but I'm thirsty. Water, right? We're going to get your rinse off here a little quick, okay? You got to, if we open the door. What is my cry? Yes, we'll tell you, but if we open the door,

you're going to cooperate, right? Yeah, because we got to have your wrist out. Yeah. Collaborate, what? So now all of the sun, it's starting to sting a little bit in his eyeballs. He's starting to reel's like, oh, shit, this sucks. I'm going to need to wash out my eyes if I could. So they start spraying,

water onto his face. They're helping him out and all that kind of stuff. And then we learned something that happened during the altercation in my clip number 12. Oh, no. Oh, no. Let it soak. You got to wrap him off your eyes. Now, I'll get him that clear before we go.

Yeah, he like, crushed my d-in balls. No, he grabbed them and squeezed on them. Oh, really? Yeah. Spray, okay? I'm good. How do we not know? this. I asked you what he had at his hand.

I just did the officer's dick and balls is what he was holding on too. Did he fucking grabbed the guy and just squeezed his balls? That sucks. Oh, he just grabbed the cops dick. All right, so are you guys going to pepper spray him? Please. He's still

yanking on my cock. No, don't taste him yet. Help me out. Don't tase him yet. It's like, complete the circuit. All right, so clip number 13, they take him to the hospital and he is cleared. thankfully I won't let go now sit down you feel the chair

go ahead and sit down there both now lean back after being treated and medically cleared officers bring the suspect back to the squad to transport him to jail I'm going to search him a little more properly you want me to take off my pants no no I don't want that

that is not what I'm suggesting brother man he was fucking crying this was the the big tough guy flicking off the cops guy a little while ago. Man, Dave Dallafior, a hero, by the way. A hero, yes. How do you have a $1.99 left to Super Chat us, Dave? Thank you for what you did, by the way. You're a hero, my friend. Thank you, buddy. In my book, you're a good guy. But he makes a really good

point here. He goes, is that hitman Dan? It might be. And here's the thing. This is what I think hitman Dan thinks his toupee looks like. I think this is the style that old dubby thinks he has. Yeah. That old crusty, alleged coke-dealing idiot that hangs out with the most washed-up loser in Florida. Wow. Fix his hair looks like this. Vinny, you have a lot of feelings about this. No, I don't like any of them.

You know, you have a lot of feelings about this. I didn't realize. You didn't? I thought you were just kind of like, ah, John's all right. His friends are kind of cool. I didn't realize. Which friends of his are cool? I'm kidding.

Last clip out of here is a quick one just to get the charges. Tie a bow on it. All right. This suspect, Sean, was charged with two counts of battery on a peace officer and two counts of resisting, obstructing without violence, totaling a bond of $11,000. He is innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law. No, he grabbed a guy's dick. He's guilty. Sorry, that's how that works. You're under arrest.

Just do it. So, yes, thank you again to Bonar Guy for sending that one in. That was a great one. Thank you, Bonar Guy. You are a great contributor to the creep off. He is. He appreciate you, sir. now I believe it's time for some voicemails Carl

Sorry guys It's quiet The Creepoff voicemail segment Is brought to you by the city of Syracuse Syracuse Now more popular than a Taylor Swift album See you in Syracuse Is that true?

Probably not I don't think so. Can I tell you? I went to the movies with my wife the other night. Oh, did you see the new Taylor Swift movie? No, but it was the night of the premiere of it, and I did not realize that was happening. And I have to say, this whole Taylor Swift thing has alluded me because I don't know shit about her music. Mm-hmm.

I know that... You just want to fuck the Swifties. No. Shut up. All right. Sorry. I interrupted. No, like the thing with her is she's supposed to be like this wholesome kind of half country act, but she does like this bitter feuds and she has all the boyfriends and she writes the albums about the boyfriends.

Yeah. This new album, she, it's the life of a showgirl is the name of it. They had a big fucking thing up and her in this sexy ass outfit. Like she looks like she's wearing like Vegas showgirl shit with just like the chains. Sure. And I walk in and like, holy shit. Like for the first time I was like, holy shit, Taylor Swift looks odd. Really?

I was like, that poster. and I'm just looking at it and then I see the biggest boner killer in the history of the world your wife you mentioned you brought her how dare you sir

you mentioned you were with her that's the reason why I'm sorry so here I am staring at this hot-ass Taylor Swift thing going all of these terrible parents are bringing in their children like their little daughters to take pictures in front of the

standy of Taylor Swift dressed sluttier than I've ever seen or dressed before in my life. And they're all like in front of it taking pictures. I could not believe that's parenting now. Yeah, well, I don't know why they're pretending Taylor Swift is hot. I've never

understood that. And I don't get the whole Swifty movement either. It's not for me. Yeah. It was the best looking I've ever seen her. I will say that. Okay. The greater good ass, Vinnie, did you watch one battle after another? What a pile of trash that sticker was. I did see that, but that was not the movie I was there for.

And I give that like a six and a half. It could have been better. I agree. What did you go see? You're not going to tell us? Oh, the smashing machine. Oh, how was it? Okay.

If you know who Mark Kerr is, it will make sense to you. If you don't know who Mark Kerr is, you have to sit there and kind of like piece it all together. But the rock was in a ton of prosthetics, and I wanted to see this acting job. that everybody is talking about. The Rock's going to be a great actor. I've never seen The Rock be a good actor in anything. He's been in a million things. Right.

He's fine. He's like, you know, he's no Adam Bush. He peaked at Tooth Fairy. We could all agree. Sure, sure. Was that a movie he was in? I don't know. I think so.

I think that was his Mr. Nanny. Right. But he played Mark Kerr, like doing just a straight up imitation of the guy that was spot on. That was good. And what they did, I didn't say the movie was good. I said his impression was good. Right, right, right. That's what I was asking. The rock was good. But at the end of the movie, the director did something, I think to trick everybody to make them think the rock was really good, because the last scene of the movie, no spoiler, this is nothing part of the plot. They show Mark Kerr now. Right. They show him in a supermarket, just shopping, and he goes up, and he's a very mild-mannered, nice, soft-spoken guy, and he puts his stuff up and he says to the lady, oh, how are you today? Like, very politely, in the exact same way that the rock was playing him.

So I actually had him do an impression of the Rock's impression of him to make it seem like it was spot-out, I see. So they're just trying to make it look like the Rock did such a great job playing the sky. But, you know, whatever. You're not fooling me, Hollywood. So anyway, voicemails. Yeah. A lot of people, a lot of people. Yeah.

Are upset with podcast profits take on truck drivers. Oh, interesting. Our voicemail has been overflowing this week with people mad about that. Okay. Hey, this is in response to the creepiest football player to the guy crying and bitching about semi-truck drivers. Fuck you. You're a pussy. And you know what?

Learn to stay the fuck away from us. Fuck you. All right, that's all I got. Nothing really pisses me off other than fucking people in four-wheel drive cars. I don't know what the fuck they're doing. Fuck you. I'm rolling 75,000 pounds. I ain't stopping at a goddamn red light.

And if I do, fuck you. All right. Well, that's all I got. Thank you, Carl. Love you, fuck you. Bye. That's actually the guy who fought Mark Sanchez. Oh, I get into the show.

Hey, buddy. I'm here, too, by the way. Hey, guys, Ronnie and Syracuse, listening to the show, the guy was complaining about the truck that he couldn't see the light. And you guys are talking about how you should respect the truckers and all this stuff. Well, I've been driving intercity buses, which means long distance, since 1991. I drove a truck over the road between 94 and 5, so I've done this for a while. Okay. And I have to tell you, visibility is important.

So this moron who was raging about the truck that caused him to stop and have all the contents of his van come crashing forward, maybe should not follow the truck so closely so that he can see the traffic light ahead. No shit. I'm just saying, don't call me that. This is a blue collar show. We respect the truck drivers here. Oh, yeah. People, that was, those were the nice ones.

Uh-oh. Hey, this is in response to the guys. complaining about truck drivers. I wish you would have ran that fucking red light and gotten T-boned by another goddamn semi, you fucking retard. By the way, I'm a local heavy haul truck driver to you guys, actually. So if Vinnie Paulino ever needs a ride somewhere,

just give me a call. I should be able to get any permits needed. I've got tri-axle and quad-axle trailers. Let me know. Vote for Carl. bro vote for caro that's fascinating please go on bro this ain't fat viny no more I'm like kind of chubby little chubby a little little bit but come on I ain't no three bills no more son you don't need to get a permit to haul me hey Carl you know what else grinds my

gears when people not are going slow to get on the highways when they go fast you're like hey I'm going fast now. I could just get on whatever the fuck I want, even though you're doing the speed limit in the right lane. Okay, next week I'll call on my favorite Halloween candy. Perfect. I look forward to hearing what it is. I'm the guy who gets on the highway going too fast. Uh, here's our pal, Lavern Mystic. Of course, I'm playing his voice. No, great support. Laverne Mystic, I sincerely apologize, uh, for my comment about truckers. Not all truckers. Let's be fair about that. And also I'm in Washington State, so we've got some pretty bad ones here. Anyway, that being said, sorry.

I'm sure you're a great truck driver, and the way that they put it on the show made a lot more sense. You know, I noticed school speed limits, like when there's children present, right, or when the light's flashing, they want you to go 20 miles an hour, and I feel like that makes too many pedophiles because, like, that's too much time to stare at. the kids walking down the street you know that a me problem all right bye what do you mean makes pedophiles sir do you think there's a certain amount of children you'll see and then one day it'll be sexually attracted to them so we got to we got to slow this one down we we got to give this guy a lot of help oh boy that's that good listen callers if you have thoughts on this we'll play them next week i mean yeah wow you pretty much filled up our voicemail box yikes this week with the response to last week's call

good jobs to apologizing you know to the truck drivers they deserve it they're hardworking people and we respect them but no I don't think the slow school sides make pedophiles no it's not how that's how that works I think kids being

whores do it's how they dress is right the problem the problem is the way children dress these days who's that old guy over there Uncle Paul Uncle Ball All right, Carl

Fuck that. Let's do a scumpery. I got a gift. Hold on. Oh, you did get a gift. That's right. Because we're doing a Minnesota-themed show today. This is very appropriate that I got this in from Minnesota.

And actually, this is very fantastic. I knew what this was because he sent me a photo of it. So one of my inside guys who was at Aaron Holt's courtroom sentencing. One of the guys who was a helping report on the goings-on. I believe he was kicked out of Stonies for buying a hat. Well, anyway, poor dude. He sent me this shirt. Bro, is that from the coaches gym?

Yes, it is. It is the St. Cloud Fight Club. So, fun fact, that was sent to the comedy club. Somebody sent that here. And one of the guys in the office, the way they labeled it didn't realize it was for Carl and opened that so when I got in it was sitting in my office today and I looked at it going what the fuck is this that is one shitty t-shirt it's awesome that t-shirt stinks I'm gonna wear it if that t-shirt wasn't free you spend too much money on it that is a garbage shirt all right

well I like it I'm gonna wear it thank you very much at least it wasn't a shitty stony's hat it is better than a stony's hat true all right all right you ready for uh scum parade as I'll ever be Let's go. It's time for us to listen to the scum parade with stars and murder drugs and jaywalking. You'll hear about a guy who fucked his door and catch up on the news this week. I want to hear the scum parade. Where's the scum parade? Where's the scum parade?

Over the years, Carl, there's not a lot you and I actually agree on. But there is one thing that we could totally agree on. The Jets suck. Fuck the Jets and Mark Sanchez is a no talent hack. But fumble himself. Yeah, usually he's on the duller side of the stick, but not this time. Let's talk about the shocking late-night brawl that turned violent around 1230 just a few nights ago in downtown Indianapolis, Carl. Sanchez confronted a 69-year-old truck driver.

There's been a lot of different reports on this. Originally, people thought he got into a fight with the DoorDash driver. that is incorrect more has come out are you familiar with this car i'm very familiar with this story's amazing so no that's the whore okay they were outside of this place long miller's pub and eatery and according to police cut documents uh a truck driver whose job is to collect use cooking oil at the hotel's loading dock uh parked in a place that mark sanchise for some reason was saving a spot for other people coming to the bar is really what i could gather I wasn't sure about that part

I was trying to figure out why Mark Sanchez was so concerned about the stupid where this truck was parked He was trying to save a spot for people to come meet him And he was standing out there Trying to be the boss in direct traffic Fucking asshole

According to the court documents The driver claims that Sanchez accosted him And physically attacked him and threw him to the ground Okay After telling him he needs to move the truck

And the guy's just like Bro I'm doing my job Like this guy This is his route Yeah. This guy does this all the time. He shows up, parks by the same spot, pumps the fucking shit. Mark Sanchez just happens to be there and it's a problem for him.

Yeah. Maybe if you were the Colts quarterback, I would move my truck. But for the Jets quarterback, don't give a shit. Dude, Daniel Jones gets more respect to that town than you do, Mark Sanchez. Rightfully sell. Fuck you, dude. So, according to the police department, the driver used pepper spray on Sanchez. Well, because Sanchez was trying to get into the truck.

Yes, he jumped back into the truck. Yeah, Sanchez was being very aggressive with this 69-year-old man. And when that failed because Mark was just like the guy in the cop cam still tried to fucking get him, he drew his knife and stabbed Sanchez two or three times in self-defense. In the chest. It's not great. No. Sanchez was slashed to the upper torso.

It was rushed to the hospital. He arrived in critical condition, but authorities later responded to the attack. Can I just say, though, he wasn't rushed to the hospital. So he beat the shit out of the hospital. guy. Yeah. And then it's just started walking down the street towards this other pub where I believe he went inside because that's when the ambulance came, put him on a gurney

and brought him to the hospital. Like, there's video of him. I don't know that. I don't. I didn't know that. Okay. There's video of him just kind of like because where this dock is obviously there's, you know, closed. Cameras. Yeah, of course. So there's video of him like totally covered in blood just walking away from the

fight walking down the street. It's crazy. And everyone thought that he was just the victim because, you He's all cut up and goes to the hospital. And then they go back and they look at the tape and they talk to the truck driver. They're like, oh, this guy actually started this. So when he gets to the hospital, they arrest him for misdemeanor charges because the driver explained kind of what happened. Yeah.

Now, he was charged with battery with injury, unlawful entry into a motor vehicle and public intoxication. But once they started watching that surveillance footage, they upgraded the charges. Now the charges are level five felony, battery causing serious injury, and charge it carries up to six years behind bars if convicted. Yeah, because this truck driver also has serious injuries. Like, he beat the shit out of this guy. He really did. Like, this guy can claim self-defense all goddamn day long. This is a 38-year-old star athlete.

Beating up a almost 70-year-old truck driver. Yeah. It's not a fair fight. and I thought it was really weird that like the Jets organization and Fox Sports who he works for now and all these people are just like you know all we were putting out there

we hope he has a speedy recovery you know we're concerned for his family and loved ones like this guy started all of this he's a piece of shit it's the reason why he's in the hospital it's really kind of egg on the face of the network as well

but I have bad news here I'm actually just reading the latest update Carl yeah and it I think Mark Sanchez might have been in the right. Oh. You see, what happened was he was driving behind the truck and they got to a red light.

A red light and he didn't know, so he had to stop the car real quick and all his stuff went flying. Yeah, his food landed on the front, you know, passenger side. I think you're making that up based on our voicemail from last week, but I will tell you this, Benny, I have a theory. Okay. I have a theory why he was so enraged at this truck driver.

I bet he looked exactly like a New York City sports reporter. He had a lot of anger. He needed out of his system from those years with the Jets. You look more like a New York City sports reporter than this truck driver. That's why I'm afraid around Mark Sanchez. You should be terrified around

Mark Sanchez. You should be terrified around Sam Darnold, Zach Joe. Yeah, let's go through the entire list. Zach Wilson. Yeah, right. Gino Smith. Aaron Rogers. Yep. Okay. Chad Pettiton says he's going to kick your ass. I believe that. Oh, man. So at the moment,

it's all up in the air. What's going to happen? But the Chargers have definitely increased. Yes. Now... I don't think we'll hear him doing color commentary on during a football game anytime soon. Yeah, the only place you're really... He might be great in jail.

He might be a fun guy to him. Oh, yeah, I would sit next to him watching the games. Sure. Hell yeah. Get an inside perspective. I've told you the story before, but I got to sit with Jim Kelly and watch a Bill's game years ago. And to sit next to a NFL quarterback

and listen to the way that they're watching the game compared to the way everyone else is watching the game. the game, it's fascinating. I cannot tell you how awful and insufferable it would be to watch a game with Jim Kelly. He was awesome. Oh, my, my kid is sick. That's not what he said.

He never brought that up. Never brought that up once. Did I tell you I got all sorts of cancer now? We watched the pills game together. And then he signed my football. Shut up. Let me tell you who you want to watch the game with. Dan fucking Marino.

You're going to have some drinks. I would. It sounds great, too. You have a great time. Jim Kelly, please. All right. right let's talk about this broad i think i could fix her car oh boy her hair is jacked that is not a good luck orch couty fire rescue fighter gabriel franzi maybe 28 years old was arrested on

friday by the volusia county sheriff's officer allegedly littering the lawn of her ex-boyfriend and his new girlfriend with used tampons maybe that's his kink she was arrested for two counts of misdemeanor stalking charges during the early hours of september 29th security camera footage shows a dark pickup truck circling the home. Then a woman leaps out of the bed of the truck tossing 75 stained red tampons into the yard. 75 tampons. How many periods is that?

She's been saving them up. Yeah, how long do you have to collect in order to get up to 75 tampon ladies? I don't know any ladies here. You want to tell us? Unless they're not all hers, she was collecting them for a while. Yeah, that's a long time. Police reviewed license plate readers of the area at the time of the incident and discovered the dark colored pickup truck was registered to her.

She initially denied being involved and even knowing where her ex-boyfriend lived with police questioned her. Who? Yeah, I don't even remember that guy. And they're just like, is that because it's your period? Is it? Are you hormonal? But once presented with the evidence, she changed her story and said it was an idea from her mother and aunt. Oh yeah, throw them under the bus. Yeah. You don't be a really funny prank. How many used handpods you're hanging on to? Let me check my purse. Well, it looks like I have not 100. I'm not crazy. Fewer than 100. Franzi admitted to police

she bought the tampons and painted them red as if they were used Oh well okay Then what are we even talking about that So they're just props She's lying No no no no no

This sounds like it should be Littering Should be the charge on this She just painted tampons And threw them in the yard Who cares? Carl I'm gonna tell you something

Right the fuck now I'm gonna tell you something right the fuck now If this was me I would want this woman To face the death penalty For doing this do you know how I would be gagging how fucking awful

this would be to see on your front yard? No, no, no, no, no. Vinnie, you're thinking about this all wrong. You have dogs. You just let the dogs go out there and take care of business. The dogs are going to love these things. That's fucking vile, Carl, even for this show. I went too far.

That was too far. Okay. I think they were real. So she's pleaded not guilty and we'll find out what happens. Wait, does Lucy Typebox reuse tampons? Lucy? Tampons are expensive.

What a waste. She is Jewish, right? Yeah, that's a good point. Tampons are expensive. Did she save them from month to month? I guess I'll report on this later. I'll find out. Yeah, why don't you go have that conversation with her?

All right, Carl. By the way, they're talking about how she might be suspended as a firefighter for doing this. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Let her fucking cook. chili and rescue cats or whatever firefighters do cares why would you suspend her from doing that just because she threw a bunch of tampons on a yard somewhere i think again death penalty okay fair enough you and i think very differently about this disgusting i think it's a fun prank

oh god let's talk about this broad i want to move on already this is uh kate shemirani i believe is how you say the last name now this is her daughter who uh who uh I'm very sorry to say she passed away. Oh, no. Yeah. We watched one of the good ones. She was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin lymphoma in 2023. And her mom, Kate, is a controversial health influencer, to say the least, Carl.

You see, instead of, you know, going after things like chemotherapy. Going after things or? Or, like, pursuing, like, regular treatments. Yeah. Kate, the mom, she believes in the holistic way. sure so when her daughter was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin lymphoma she thought the right thing to do kate here thought the right thing to do for her daughter would be give her five coffee enemas a day did that work she's dead carl i just told you that a minute ago fuck you mom you fucking created a hot one you

ruined it she died at 23 that's not good the doctor said that she died of a heart attack they believed was triggered by a large tumor compressing her airways. Upon her diagnosis, she was told by doctors that her cancer was treatable and that with chemotherapy, she had an 80% chance of recovery. However, her mother, a former no-it-all nurse, a known anti-vaccine advocate, pushed her to pursue alternative medicine. Kate, who was removed from the British Nursing Registry in 2021, after her committee found she had spread theories that put the public at significant risk or harm, had taken a leading role in her daughter's treatment. You know, even Robin Quivers when she had the tumor wasn't like, coffee animals, that'll fix all that. She was like, I'm going to listen to the doctors and do what they think. Kate, a breast cancer survivor.

By the way, very different thing than lymphoma. Yeah, coffee actually does work for breast cancer, that I know. Yeah. We still got our YouTube channel shut down for shit like this, or is that not a thing anymore? No, the only reason ours doesn't get shut down is because I don't pay the internet bill. Perfect. She credited her own recovery to the Gershon therapy. This alternative approach aims to detoxify the body through a strict vegan diet, natural juices and supplements at frequent coffee enumas.

Citing her own success, she basically demanded that her daughter do the same thing. You know what the side effects of that treatment are? Becoming an annoying know-it-all. Do you imagine listening to this fucking woman talk about getting the toxins out of your system through vegan diets and coffee? on him is, fuck you. Yeah. So the influence that was brought to bear on Paloma did contribute more than minimally to her death. Doctors and attorneys are saying, Kate's extensive questioning of medical staff and suspicion of Western medicine and mass ceded some form of doubt in Paloma's mind as to her diagnosis. And written statements before her death, Paloma denied having cancer

at all, calling the diagnosis an absurd fantasy with no proof. So, you know, They're both blondes. They're both kind of dopey. It's been reported that the doctors and nurses have never rolled their eyes more. Unbelievable. Kate and her ex-husband, Farah Mars Shamarani, previously told the BBC they believe Paloma died as a result of medical interventions given without confirmed diagnosis or lawful consent. The doctors tried to treat her and that's what killed her. Right.

Paloma's twin brother, Gabriel, has been vocal about what he perceives as his mother. his role in his sister's demise. During the coroner's hearing, he laid the blame wholly and specifically on Kate. He shows up and like, we've never had someone show up to one of these before, young bad. What do you have to say? And his quote was, I blame my mother entirely for my sister's death. He said, well, characterizing their influence as obstructing.

In short, I believe that she sacrificed Paloma's life for her own principles, and I believe that she should be held accountable for Paloma's death. So this mother, should she be arrested? Should she go to prison for this, Carl? Well, no. I mean, you have adults making decisions for themselves. If the mom influences the daughter. I mean, if the daughter was 16, then yeah, for sure.

In 2024, Gabriel brought a high court case to assess his sister's ability to make medical decisions while living with their mother. He claimed that while Paloma was initially considered chemotherapy after a diagnosis, she was pressured by the mother to avoid it. We should be showing more photos of the daughter on the screen. Sorry. Paloma described her mother as an extremely forceful advocate for natural health. Who is misquoted by people claiming those natural solutions are conspiratorial. Palomo also claimed she was delighted with her alternative treatments.

During the coroners hearing Kate argued, Paloma made her own... Well, yeah, it's better than chemotherapy. It's a lot more fun to just get coffee shoved up your ass and drink some juice. I get that. but it's not helping you go in beans or brood carl when you do it i think i actually don't know the answer to that um well poloma did make her own treatment choices based on her values and um kate argued she was determined to get well on her own terms yeah so i just want to say this don't fuck around with people's health i mean listen i don't think doctors are perfect in any way

shape or form. And I'm not going to sit here and suck off the fucking medical community. But this is just fucking awful. We got a hot blonde here who's dead now because of a stupid mom. Didn't Andy Kaufman also pursue, you know, alternative methods and Steve Jobs? Aren't there a bunch of people who have like been like, ah, no, no, I don't, I don't fight cancer. I got this. Don't worry about it.

Well, if I recall with Andy, yes, Steve Jobs, absolutely. Yeah. But with Andy, he went after Eddie thing. yeah and he was like i don't want to die yeah and he was going to all sorts of faith healers and shit like that and the faith dealers didn't work huh turns out they didn't bummer but according to uh what's his buddy's name there um bob zimuda yep and he's just waiting to come out and tell everybody this whole thing's been a gag i can't wait for that that's gonna be some ta-da dude bob zimuda might be one of the biggest douchebags and i don't know the guy personally i've

never met him but every 10 years he shows up with the same goddamn schick and he told me the only way it would be funny if it was 20 years and then the next time he said it'd be up to 30 years that it was 40 that it was 50 it's just stop it already dude he's dead you asshole I want introduce you to a lovely lady this is miss Sharon okay miss Sharon dude when I read the headline I was picturing Mr. Garrison. I saw this. You got chef. Yeah, right.

I was like, oh, no. Oh, man. She's single. A North Carolina school bus driver who calls himself Miss Sharon has been charged with sexually assaulting several boys who he lured to his house. Lechuan Daryl Tate, a 48-year-old man, also known as just Sharon, was arrested Tuesday in charge of two counts of statutes. or rape and sits counts of indecent liberties with a minor.

Why would you change your name to Sharon when you have a cool name like Latuan? It's fucking sweet. It's a lady's name too. I don't know that. He's accused of assaulted at least four boys ages 14 to 15 years old. And officials say there could be more victims, but none of them want to admit it. The children were found to be stayed at his house and one of them claimed Tate offered him money in return for sex. Money for sex with that thing.

Vinny, how much money are we talking about? I don't think a school bus driver has enough money. Do you remember all the money that they had to print for Germany after World War I that just caused all the inflation problems? Sure. Like that much. Yeah, it would take that much. Wheelbarrow's full. Tate drove school bus full of hundreds.

Right. Tate drove school bus with a Sugar Creek Charity School in Charlotte but was suspended during the weeks-long investigation and fired on September 30th. none of the alleged crimes occurred on school property while Tate was working on his bus route You know Red Scoper says why the fuck would children do that I'll tell you the answer These kids were afraid they'd be called transphobic If they didn't suck this chick's dick

Oh man you don't know what that going around school Seriously you don't have people to think like Oh you won't even oh you won't suck her off why Because she's got a penis Is that why you won't And see that's how the times have changed When I was a kid It would have been like

Oh yeah it would have been like You sucked off the freak Yeah, that would have been like, run out that freak. We had simpler times. It was 20 bucks. His family has insisted that he was innocent on the charges, but neighbors say they've been left disturbed by the allegations. It's pretty disturbing that it's so close to home and you're just shocked. To me, it's a shame.

That's what his neighbor said. Are you that shocked, dude? You really that shocked? Okay. that's the scout parade for this week Carl I love it I do too what a fun show we had next week

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Tuesday at this time that's right have a normal time have a happy Columbus Day and then Bills on Monday night Hopefully they don't lay another egg Like they did on this past Sunday night We do have a few more people Who wanted to send us some notes coming in

Okay Dave Delefior Frankly, I prefer pepper spray To the Tayseraine I could see that Fast Fat Guy 666 They should at least told him what his crime was Yeah

I think they were trying to say Like it's not you haven't been you're not accused of a crime yet sir just get out of the car hey boy boys remember to go to fight the dabbler and give them money keep on creeping on thanks moon rocks appreciate it that chris primer thanks for the two bucks is it super chat tuesday if not please refund it is super i'm sorry i misspoke earlier it is super chat tuesday 100% my bad uh what museum or petting zoo is she in

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halftime show? No, I always watch who are these broadcasters. Christian always puts together a show on our channel that you can watch instead of the halftime show. Well, somebody's got to watch it. I'm looking forward to it because I like to watch the Super Bowl with old people and I want to see their reactions to it. Last year, watching Kendrick was really funny. Yep. Because I was at a bar in Miami just watching people. What is this shit? Wait, that was happening at my house, too. Yeah. One of the chances. It's fun to watch. What the fuck? It was fun.

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