The Creep Off - Episode 286: 2:40pm at the Cleaning Factory

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

Today in honor of National Homemaker Day, Karl and Vinnie roll up their sleeves and dive into the world of domestic true crime drama to uncover the creepiest housewives of all time.  Join us... as we expose the dark side of homemaking you won’t believe.The score is currently Vinnie 2 – Karl 2 – Guest 4 visit patreon.com/thecreepoff to vote and decide this week’s winnerCheck out this week’s scum parade stories here: Terrifying secret of long-haired gymgoer in mask who entered women's locker rooms | Daily Mail OnlineMan who killed cashier over pizza order is sentencedAngry roommate hurls hot grease on housemate: PolicePrincipal resigns after investigator finds Grindr app used to pursue sex with student | KTVU FOX 2Want more of the madness? Support the show on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to snag exclusive merch and get an extra bonus episode every week!Support free speech help to donate to Karl & Shulis Legal fund visit FIGHTHEDABBLER.COMDon’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108You can follow our Results girl Danni on Instagram @Danni_Desolation

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the Carl Network. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. If you're a kid, don't get on here, okay? See, that's how you do a disclaimer. Okay, you tell the kids to get out to fuck off the damn page.
Starting point is 00:00:28 I'm going to give the people what they are. want sensation horror shock i'm gonna deliver the goods because i'm alive and i'm not backing down cuckoo coo coo that ain't funny Disgusting, vomit-inducing thing. Ola, creepos, welcome to another episode of your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps, by creeps for you creeps. I'm your host. My name is Vinny, Excelsior at all you true believers out there.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Joining me today in the studio, it's hot cucka-c-c-c-carol! What is happening, Vinnie Pauline? I was so good to see you, my friend. I apologize for my tardiness. though I will tell you. And I'm happy to start up this show because we got a good one for you today. We do have a great one for you today. In fact, Carl, I'm really excited about today because we're celebrating a national holiday
Starting point is 00:01:42 that doesn't get enough recognition. Right. Super Chat Monday. I know. No one ever talks about it except for us. Thank God for us. Yeah. Well, thank God we're celebrating it.
Starting point is 00:01:49 But there's also another day. It's one of those bullshit holidays that they just made up for no reason. Okay. Today is National Homemakers Day. Oh, for the Homemakers. Yeah. And they finally get a day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Isn't that nice to have a day they could just relax? Right. Those poor people making all those homes. Well, we're going to do... For a lot of people, that's a part-time job. For most people, we're going to do them all a service. All of you, homemakers and housewives out, we're going to do you a service by pointing out, who is the shittiest among you?
Starting point is 00:02:19 Today, we're going to find the creepiest housewife. All right. See, we're the only ones actually celebrating holidays in the Dabalverse. That is absolutely true. Now, Carl, before we get too far, we need to explain. to everybody this is a competition yes the creepoff is a true crime competition the format is vini and i both present the biggest creep from a certain category and you you hear us out and then you go to patreon.com slash the creepoff and you vote for her you thought brought the bigger
Starting point is 00:02:43 creep on this episode we tally those votes the next week at the beginning of the show we'll talk about who won the previous episode that person will get a point once one of us gets to five points that person wins the round the other person has to spin the dreaded wheel of consequences and I'm happy to report there are no looming consequences right now all consequences have been fulfilled board is clear baby that's correct first time in a long time and the current score is vini two I have one point of course I did score a point last week when we moved our voting over to patreon uh-huh so I'm interested to see what the results are this week Vinny now I've actually not looked I'd be honest with I forgot to vote myself and I have not
Starting point is 00:03:24 looked at all so I'm not sure I don't know anything well here to tell us today is our results girl who I have a bone to pick with. Oh, boy. And I have an issue I want to discuss with her. Wow, fireworks. Yeah. Here she comes. Ladies and gentlemen. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Bonar alert. Hi, Danny. Danny. You kind of got like Halloween vibes still going. I know. I continue to. I'm digging it. I like it. I like that. sweater on her. It's very open
Starting point is 00:04:00 in the front. It is, yes. It's very nice. It's open in all the right places. It is. I got to tell you, Carl. She told me something that I'm a little disturbed by before we started the show. I'm sorry to call you out like this, Danny. Wow. We're doing a meeting right on the air, huh? Oh, yeah, we are. Okay. We are. We're having a meeting.
Starting point is 00:04:18 All right. Danny told me before the show started that she had a plan for Halloween, but then she did, for our Halloween show last week, and then she didn't do it. You want to tell Carl what your plan was going to be. Am I going to be disappointed in you, Danny? Yeah, probably. I was planning on doing the cow bikini for Halloween.
Starting point is 00:04:38 What, what, what? And I got the costume out and the most important part was missing. Tell him what you think the most important part was. The top. That's the least important. Are you kidding me? By the way, no matter what you said, I would have said, that was the least important part.
Starting point is 00:04:57 But either way. So you had not opened this thing. How long have you had it for? I've had it for a couple years. Yeah, I remember. I remember you getting it. And then you got pregnant and delayed things. And you haven't even looked at this thing in all that time.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Could you even return it at this point? She had it before. Oh, Danny. She had it before the show because apparently she's a lot of fun. Yes. She is a lot of fun. So you never put it on. You never tried it on before.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I have tried it on. It's just been a while. Oh, so you lost the top. I guess so. I got everything out and everything was there. Danny, you should have talked to us about this beforehand because we could have had an offline meeting with solutions. I like solutions driven meetings. We solve all the problems.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So here's one. You put your hands like here, you know, just like here and here. One finger over the important part. Yeah. And you move them up, you move them down, you know, to get a couple shots, a couple different ways. You know, you do that. another idea is electrical tape you ever play with some electrical tape on there i mean it's not great coming off but going out it's fun um i'm gonna tell you something i actually i used to be a stripper
Starting point is 00:06:09 so yes i've electrical tape interesting all right let's talk about this so how was electrical tape what's the application for that when you're a stripper um just to tie their hands after you drug them and take their wallets carl no no no i'm sorry What was that daddy? You got rudely interrupted by my fraud here. Oh, you're fine. It's just to cover the nips. That's it.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Why are you covering the nips if you're a stripper? At the time, they, I guess in my state, they didn't do full nudity. Well, kick them out of the union. Titties aren't full nudity. What fucking state are we talking about here? Kentucky. Kentucky. I need someone to researches.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Mint salad. Can you get on this for us, please? I need to know if this is true. in Kentucky flopping them all over the place. Oh shit. You can't drive through Kentucky and I was seeing midstance. You kidding me?
Starting point is 00:07:04 This wasn't like 2015 though. What about assholes? Could you show your asshole at the strip club? I don't think so. Were you allowed to wink at people like that? No, it's crazy because when I went to the strip club
Starting point is 00:07:19 before I was ever a stripper, everybody was completely naked. So I have no idea when that changed. But yeah. Is that the job you were holding? hoping to get full nudity no no i applied too and they said no yeah danny was it just you they said no keep those keep those things hidden what's going on here i don't i don't think that's the case i'm just curious no no by that point just everybody was a slight bit more covered up and i was
Starting point is 00:07:48 a little more comfortable with that at the time i'd never done anything like that really so what got you into stripping then by the way this show just got completely derailed for going to about all the research i did i spent all morning working on shit it doesn't matter uh what got you to strip me why did you decide to pursue that career oh god um drugs and money nice that's the reason that's the right reason right there see that's the right reason to get into stripping not a college education or anything like honest here we're all adults we can talk about this like adults danny daddy daddy um so slow chat danny was uh was there ever anything like beyond stripping maybe for certain clients who either you were fond of or maybe brought drugs for you?
Starting point is 00:08:32 No, no. It was just, um, me and my friend started stripping there together because she wanted to do it. And I was like, okay, why not? I'll go with you. And it seemed to be easy money at the time. Sure. I was like, okay. How long did you do this job?
Starting point is 00:08:51 Sorry. How long did you do this job? Only for like a couple months. and then I got pregnant. That ruins that. Was it a client? No. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I'm just curious with now. No, I know. I understand that. I just wondering how you guys met. That's all. No, we were, we were together then. How do you feel about you stripping?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Was he okay with it? He didn't know. Oh, does he know now? Oh. He knows now. You were hiding. Where do you think you were doing at night time
Starting point is 00:09:21 until 2 a.m. or whatever it was? Doing like a cleaning job. I don't remember when I told him. I was lying about it. Danny, this is fun. It was not sometimes. I've had a couple people,
Starting point is 00:09:37 I had to get a couple people bounced out of there. It was fun because I had a friend with me, you know, and it was, we got to like kind of do stuff together sometimes. Like kissing stuff? Like what do you mean to get to do stuff together? Oh, like dance on the stage together and stuff like that, you know. Did you?
Starting point is 00:09:56 have a stripper name it was oh fuck it was lucy really actually yeah okay i know lucy we know one of those i'm familiar danny all right here's the deal i have a lot a lot more questions you seem like you're open for it so that's great but we got to put a pin in it right now because we have a show to get to and this really will derail the entire show yeah um let's just do uh creepiest housewife next week no no no let's put a pin in this conversation biddy we'll do the creep off. We haven't even getting the results yet. I don't even know where in the show we are. I was about to start hitting Carl's Cap Cam. I don't know
Starting point is 00:10:32 what we're doing. Yeah. Let's get back to basics. Okay. Danny, who won last week's episode? Okay. 57% for Halloween creep. The vote goes to Amy Veraldi and Carl. Yes. Get fuck out of here. Let's go!
Starting point is 00:10:56 My guy ripped the baby out. He dropped it up with the machete. What the hell is he supposed to be? I believe in America, God. This is very exciting right now. Thank you very much. I've tied the score up two to two. See, this is clearly what happened here.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Carl figured out how to cheat on Patriot. That's why he wanted it all moved over there. Because he wanted to figure out. Is this your strategy, Vinny? Now, just because I won two in a row. No, I'm a cheater. That's your strategy. when a guy's chopping a baby out of a woman
Starting point is 00:11:29 and then chopping it up and throwing it around the house like it was party favors. You better call it. Too many came up with jokes for it this week. You should have done that last week, idiot. I don't know how to respond to that. I got it.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Danny, we're going to have to talk more. Yes. We love you. You are a delight, Danny. Where can everyone find you? On Instagram at Danny Desolation. I can't talk today. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I think you're more flustered than we are about this. A little bit. I have never talked about this. This is exciting. Really anywhere. All right. Well, you're going to be talking about it every week now, so.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yep. Do you remember when we found out that Jess's parents were Swiggers? We just started asking about it constantly. And then she was like, hey, I got a job at a bank. I can't talk to you guys anymore. Yeah, she just quit the show because of it. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Let's not do that to Danny. Let's not scare Danny away. No. No. Danny, send me a link to whatever cow bikini in the world you want it's on the show we will get it for you it's on the show yes we haven't the budget for your complication whatever you want you just let us know you send me a link also uh if me hellie is watching and she used to be a sex worker or something if
Starting point is 00:12:39 she wants to just write it and let us know we could probably get a slot for her back on the show sometime soon uh redhead meg blonde meg yep mulka any of you that want us know what you bet up to please do uh or any of you ladies out there feel free to say hello Danny we love you're the best we'll see you soon thank you danny all right well i'm just friends the rest of the show jacking it jacking it jacking it spike it spike it smack electrical tape on the nipples though that's weird i bet it hurts when you take that off i bet it's not a fun strip club to go to i bet you it also sucks is after you put electrical tape on your nips yeah later when you go home and your nips stick to your shirt because like the glue comes off that's not yeah or like you know she was being
Starting point is 00:13:23 modest about it but like you know a guy slips her a hundred dollar bill and he's sucking out her tinnies later that night in the alleyway and he's like ugh so gunky on the nipples you know what's terrible though i feel bad for like for her dude because like he thought she was working at a factory yeah or like at a like cleaning sure and like every day he's coming home he's like boy things must be really busy at the glitter factory you're just comforted glitter there's glitter all over the house honey what's going on so much moisturizer to just clean up the fucking rooms it looks like it looks like somebody murdered a fairy in the bathroom There's just glitter everywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Unbelievable. It's amazing. You get off every week of your period each month. Is that something they arranged ahead of time? How does that work? I'm not implying the strippers don't have their period. I know they do. People are going to start writing.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Curl's such a fucking idiot. No, I know. I know what's going on. Danny, stop calling, stop say that Danny was playing around with clients. I don't think she cares for that. Yes, yes, she was not. I was joking.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Thank you. She's one of the good. She was a good, egg she was a good egg she was just talking up with her friend who was the stripping she was following the rules covering her nipples being a good girl while dancing topless for men someone wrote car was a titty sucker yeah oh god i hope now with those teeth that's sucking on some tities what are you kidding me too i destroy them he's got to stay away from the fake ones they pop doctor's orders doctor steve says you're not allowed your fake titties anymore this is true wow
Starting point is 00:14:55 We have a show to get to, Vinny. But first, let's celebrate Super Chat Monday. People are here to celebrate with us, and we appreciate it. Like, Hellraiser, 69. I saw Hellraiser this weekend. He came by the club to see Rich Voss. Oh, very cool. Who told me some fun stories, I'll tell you off.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Oh, I'm excited about that. I would have been at that show, but The Ice Us were playing in Buffalo. And I saw our friend Jerry, who came to both of our shows this weekend. He came to the Ice Tub's show first set and then went down to Rochester and caught your show. Yeah. I love Jerry. He's such a good dude. Labyrinthistic, thanks for the Fiver of Consequent.
Starting point is 00:15:25 open hand slap off the winner gets the first slap next top five people in the dabbleverse you want to get slapped all right do we get to line up five people who want to slap you and let them slap you because that seems dangerous we should just recreate the um the scene from airplane where the woman's being hysterical ah ha ha ha ha hey there he is michael p i was going to wait to reveal these but uh michael p he says vini and karl both sort of resemble what a creepy Housewave could look like, Excelsior and Go Bills. So Michael P was at the Isotope Show in Buffalo. Yeah. And he got us gifts, Vinny. Well, mine's sitting here. I haven't. I just told not to look at it. I told Minnie not to look at it yet. First, let me show you the one that he got for me.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. It's like a Tusk Sabre t-shirt. And up in the corner says just do it. Ugh. The Nike swoosh. So, uh, so yeah, that's very fun. He also got one for producer Chris with a cool design and Lucy got one as well. And he gave one for you to me to hand off. Yeah, you hand it to me, and it's folded like this, so I haven't seen it yet. I do see the Jeff Do It part. Yep. But let's see what we get on here.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I think you're going to dig this, Vinny. That's right. The Miami Dolphins logo with a moonhead. Oh, that is perfect, bro. I love it. I love it, Michael. This is phenomenal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Michael Pete has some very good work. Him and his buddies came out to the show. Always good to see him. I kind of love this. He drags people to dabble cons and isotope shows. He's a good egg. I fucking love this, man. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:16:54 This is great. And it is the 5X, I told him 5X. I'm not a 5x, you piece of shit. Titty sucking asshole. Titty sucking. What's going out around here? When you do it, it's all wrong. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Labyrinthistic, creepiest striper with clits. There's pending charges. There are pending charges right now. There's blood everywhere. You had your period last week. What the all? that's me, how's me,
Starting point is 00:17:24 all right. My bad. She'll never walk again. Labormissicic. Creepiest stripper or a club employee. I believe we did do Creepieus stripper a long time ago. We might have to bring that back though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:34 All right. Next Monday. Or actually, you know what? We're doing the show Tuesday next week. We are. Creepiest stripper next Tuesday. And Tuky's unpaid staff,
Starting point is 00:17:42 a member for four months for the wheel, loser has to listen to one hour of Kiki, one hour of steel toe. Punishments are too fun for Carl. That's brutal. Well, you recall the 12-hour, terrible podcast stream that I did.
Starting point is 00:17:54 It would have been way worse if Steeltoe and Keanu were involved. No one's ever listened to One Hour of Keanu. We don't even know what would happen. Gino hasn't even listened to one hour of Keanu. No, he's too busy talking at her. Relationship. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Right. And that is that, Carl. I believe it's time to start the competition. Creepiest housewife. Let's go. I won, so I will go first. I'll ask you to pull up the photo I sent you of Corinna Smith. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Criticist was 59 years old. Ah! When she and her 81-year-old husband, Michael Baines, had an argument back on July 14th, 2020. And following this dispute, she was pissed. She's very angry about what's going on. So Michael goes to bed. And Corinna went to work on a concoction. She starts boiling water and mixing in three big bags of sugar into it.
Starting point is 00:18:43 It's a boiling, gooey mess. She then carries the boiling sugar water into the boiling water. into the bedroom and let me tell you there are shitty ways to be woken up but this is the shittiest many
Starting point is 00:18:56 she decides to pour this concoction all over her husband Michael well vengeance so this is like molten sugar yeah so the sugar is added to make it viscous
Starting point is 00:19:08 it becomes thicker and stickier and sinks into the skin better so you're not just pouring boiling water on someone and then they get off the water off that's like fucking napalm dude that's like really bad
Starting point is 00:19:19 It's really bad. And an 81 year old man, not great. And then, rather than call emergency services, Karina leaves the house, runs to a neighbor's that's like nine houses away. She's not even friends with this person. She just runs to a house, nine houses away. Rings the doorbell, person answers. And she says, I quote,
Starting point is 00:19:38 I've hurt him really bad. I think I've killed him. So the neighbor decides to call the police. And because Karina was in no hurry to do so. so emergency services. I think I killed about we could wait five or ten more minutes just to make sure. What do you been up to? What happened to our bridge club?
Starting point is 00:19:55 So responding officers find Michael whimpering in bed with the skin on his arm and hand peeling off. Was he saying who could make a sunrise? No, he was an utter agony, Vinny. It's really a horrific thing. So he's taken to the burn unit where he remained for almost five weeks until he eventually died from the burns. he had suffered burns on 36% of his body. That's over a third, I'm told. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Corona was found guilty and sentenced to life with a minimum of 12 years in prison. This is in the UK, so I know it never gets life, but minimum of 12 years in prison for this horrific act on her husband. And that's my creepiest housewife. So I need to know something, Carl. Yeah. Because I did a little reading on the story because she was someone that I researched for this. Yeah. And do you want to tell everybody why she was mad at her?
Starting point is 00:20:46 husband? Yeah, I guess she had lunch with her daughter that day, and her daughter said that like he had molested her or something. We don't know. Oh, so she could have been a pedophile. No, no, not necessarily. I think the daughter was making up a lot of stories and telling tales out of school. I don't think she knew what she was talking about. Oh, okay. She's a crazy person.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Let's focus on the victim here, many. The victim is Michael Baines, who was murdered with boiling sugar water while he was sleeping. Which if the accusations were true, it was better than he deserved. And agonizing. An agonizing death, Vinny, an agonizing death because he suffered for weeks. I feel like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I feel like I'd be happy if someone who actually was a pedo suffered for weeks before they died horribly. Yeah, but we don't know that to be the case because he was never convicted, and we don't even know what the conversation was between her and her daughter. There's a lot of speculation, and Vinny, you can try to sabotage my creep, and I'll just return the favor. I would like to see you try. All right. Here we go. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Let's hear about what upstanding. citizen you brought as the creepiest housewife. Well, this is her, Carl. She looks great. She does not look great. She looks like a gem. The year is 1994, and we're going to South Carolina, my friend. This is a young lady named Susan Smith, who is 23 years old at the time. Now, let me tell you a little bit about her real quick. She had a little bit of a rocky childhood. Her dad killed himself. So she used that to get attention. No. But she used that to get attention for the majority of her life. For example, when she was 13 years old, she got really upset and faked attempted suicide. Then, you know, she graduated high school in 1989. She got a job
Starting point is 00:22:26 working at a Win Dixie supermarket. And she has an affair with a married coworker tries to break up his marriage. And when that doesn't work, she tries suicide again. I can fix her. No, she's not worth fixing. But in 19. She just needs the right guy. In 1990, Carl, she does meet a guy named David Smith, a guy that she worked with at Winn-Dixie. Here's a picture of him. Oh, what a happy couple. Now, they got married on May 25th of 1991 at the barrel of a shotgun because he knocked her up.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Their son, Michael, was born October 10, 1991, and that's his little brother, Alex, who was born in 1993. It's a horrible haircut, but it's a cute family. Well, early 90s, Carl. It's probably the same haircut you had. That's probably true. I was that young in the early 90s. He worked at the Wind Dixie, but he wanted his wife to be able to stay at home and take care of the kids.
Starting point is 00:23:16 So she was a housewife. She stayed at home with the kids. Well, if he's got a sweet job at the Win Dixie, then yeah, you can afford to let her stay at home and raise the children. Look at her playing with a having a nice time. Look at those little cuties. That's so fun. Yeah. You know, they don't stay at that age for very long.
Starting point is 00:23:29 You got to really appreciate it. No, they can stay that age forever, technically. We'll get to that. God damn it. The marriage. Why am I setting you up? The marriage was struggling, Carl. And it wasn't just money because he got a new.
Starting point is 00:23:42 job he got he left the when dixie and started working at a mill in town so it was a higher paying job good the problem in their relationship was infidelity mm you see this bitch was cheating on her hardworking husband who let her stay at home with the kids and worked his ass off he had too much she had too much free time she had too much free time fantasizing my other dick yeah yeah and guess who's dick she was fantasizing about car i couldn't couldn't venture a guess uh this is uh i believe uh what's his first name finley his let tom finley tom is the son of her husband's boss okay she worked he worked he is the son the owner of the mill's son who she met at a christmas party okay does he work at the mill is he a co-worker as well or he's just the son not just the son just the
Starting point is 00:24:31 rich son of the guy who owns the mill cool who starts fucking around with one of the low level employees' wives. Nice. Now, that's not nice. What do you mean? This is why she's a creepy housewife. Like, your woman was faithful to her guy until she found out he was a pito and then decided to act on it like a real hero. Here we go again. You know,
Starting point is 00:24:50 this revision is history. Mine has got two kids at home. She's got a man taking care of her and she's fucking going out and suck at his boss's kid's dick. That's fucking horrible, Carl. Is it though? I mean, that's the fucking worst thing I've ever
Starting point is 00:25:06 This guy's working too many hours to satisfy her sexually. Someone's got to do it. Not only that, Carl, if it was just about sex, that's one thing. Sure. But she fell in love with Tom Finley. That's the problem. And she comes up with all these grand ideas in her head about how they're going to have a life together. And she's to get rid of that loser, David.
Starting point is 00:25:23 And she wants to leave David and marry Tom. Now, on October 17- Why is someone rushing to marriage, especially if they're, like, cheating and shit? It's like, your marriage isn't working out. Why do you want to get married again? well this is early 90s in the south that's the way they all think I love that you just you go imagine it's the 90s okay well that's the way it was back then in the south man there are still 30 years behind the 90s in the south is like the
Starting point is 00:25:47 70s everywhere else got it like you know things at times are a little tougher there your math is off but I got it probably so um he breaks up with her Carl yeah Tom dumps her because you know why he wrote her a letter and he said I don't want to be the dad to your kids right I'm just fucking you what do you think this is and then he added in the letter i don't want you to be the mother of my kids you're sucking your husband's boss's kids dick yeah you think i want to have a fucking family with you not a great person it turns out and then he added that plus my dad would be pissed off if he found out i was fucking one of the employees wives got it so he should have led with that he should have been like
Starting point is 00:26:24 oh my dad won't want me doing sorry you know rather just be an asshole about it for a week this bitch is acting out of control of the house she's taking everything out on poor david she got dumped by her boyfriend And of course she's upset. Poor David is getting the shit end of the stick here because she's giving him a hand job right there that photo. That's pretty sweet. That's no, David. That's maybe. Maybe she's rubbing it over the pants.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yeah. But she's screaming at him yelling at him. And like a cunt, she tells her husband to get out of the house that he's paying for. Right. I mean, you're not allowed to live here anymore. I'm going to stay here. I have the kids. Get the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah, it's an arranging. And she's all upset because her fucking. boyfriend dumped her and he's none the wiser he's completely clueless okay so he fucking like packs up and leaves and goes and stays with a friend for a couple of days hoping everything blows over well on october 25th at approximately 7 15 p.m. Susan took her kids out for a ride she went down to the John d long lake with Michael and Alex strapped into car seats she went up to the top of a hill overlooking the lake that's what she released the handbrake and let the car roll into the water with both of the kids securely strapped in to their car seats.
Starting point is 00:27:39 The vehicle sank into 18 feet of water, 122 feet from the shore. Both of the kids drowned and died a horrible death, all because her boyfriend didn't want to be the dad of someone else's kids. She murdered her own two little boys. Now, hold on a second. You say they died terrible deaths. They could have been napping at the time. They might have thought they were in SeaWorld.
Starting point is 00:28:02 It might have been great. Like, my guy died. It took five weeks in the burn unit for him to finally die. That was a horrific death. These kids, they might have thought they were playing or something. They thought they were driving the car. Like, wee. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Until the water starts coming in and they can't breathe anymore. It's bath time. Wee, it's bad time. Kids hate bath time. They're like, it's nap time. So after this happened, she goes running all to a nearby hotel and tells them that this guy took her kids. Yep.
Starting point is 00:28:35 She says that guy looks like a guy who would take her kids too, I believe it. She said that she's close. Stopped at a red light and that this guy jumped into her carjacked her at gunpoint and drove off with the children. The false report led to a nine-day manhunt and national attention and national news coverage.
Starting point is 00:28:52 What did she say the motivation might have been for him to drive her kids in the car into the way? She didn't know, nobody knew where the kids were during the man hunt. Right. They were all underwater. Got it.
Starting point is 00:29:04 So they have a press conference, Carl. I would love to you to watch some of... Last week you brought in that lady who apparently won for you. She was lying on the news. So bitter. I love it. Please. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:29:19 I love it. I love it. So this woman, that woman went on the news and made up a story. He's like, oh, it was terrible. Watch this acting in front of the entire national media. If she doesn't drop an end bottle... I would like to say to whoever has my children. Davy Jones has your children.
Starting point is 00:29:40 That they please. I mean, please bring them home. Please. To us where they belong. Our lives have been torn apart by this tragic event. I want to get a real tear going there, lady. Show us smiling. I can't expect.
Starting point is 00:30:02 express how much they are wanting back home how much we love them we miss them cut all right can we get uh another person on the set i don't think this will be able to pull this part off i don't know who's in charge of casting get get cast in here now i'm not happy with this carol this husband this guy she threw out of the house cheated on like a complete sucker is standing there with his arm around her yeah he's a cuck oh my god he's an emholt they They are our hearts. And who I have prayed every day. Have you?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Pause it real quick. What's even the point of this? What's the point of the press conference with the grieving mom? If I were her, I'd be like, yeah, people know I'm upset and I lost my kids. I don't need to go up in front of them and put on the water works. I know the answer to this. What is the answer to this? The answer to this is the police think that it humanizes the situation.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And if the kids are alive and someone actually just abducting. to the children that it might tug at their heartstrings to let the kids go oh well that's actually a good answer but i wasn't expecting that out of you never ever i know that's why they do it though okay good so i just wanted to point out her bad acting and let's watch a little bit more this is a great question a reporter gets her and does a little interview with her she's not a suspect yet the kids are still missing this is she's pretty cute though right without that hair yeah yeah the hair's that great yeah the 90s just 23 year old little southern girl running around she's older than that now but Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Was there anything about the demeanor of the man that gives you concern? Hey, he was black. I told you. Is black a demeanor? Is there anything about the demeanor of the man? Listen to this answer, Carl. Yeah, he demean guy. You tell me if you think her story might be falling apart a little bit.
Starting point is 00:31:52 No, in fact, when he made me get out of the car, you know, I tried to get my children. I was, you know, just beg them, and please let me take him. And he said, no, he didn't have time because they weren't. in car seats and he was going to take time for making it out of the car seat. They're negotiating how long he was in picking with a car jacket? He's like, listen, I'm late for a movie.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I can't go talk to you a screen somewhere. I'm going to miss the previews if I don't make it in time. I'm in a serious rush. I have to take your two stupid kids with me. Can you imagine this negotiation going? Well, can I just have my kids though?
Starting point is 00:32:25 I don't know. I'm kind of in a hurry. I know, but it's not that long. They're both in car seats. That's going to take too long. No, seriously. I'm actually really good at it. I can't.
Starting point is 00:32:34 He just took off. But he had a gun, and my big thing is they were screaming, hollering, and crying. And I'm just scared that he just lost his patience or something, you know. I don't know. All I'm doing is just praying and just keeping my faith that they're going to be okay. That they're not going to surface. She does get hotter. after her kids are dead. Do you notice that?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah. Yeah. Most women do. Carl, watch this guy be a cuck. Okay. Another TV interview. I do understand why they're having to do what they're doing. I'm all they have. Right now, they have not been able to rule anyone out.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I don't think I'm any more of a suspect than anyone in this case right now. It's very painful to know that anyone would think that either of us had anything to do with this seduction of our children. But me and my wife know the truth. Well, your wife knows the truth, stupid. You don't know anything. I want to point out, she's trying out
Starting point is 00:33:43 all different looks. Every one of these things, she's trying out a different look. This one I like the best, I think. I don't know. I liked the one, I liked this look. Yeah, yeah, it's not bad. I like the glasses, though. Yeah. So, Carl, after... Was she ever a stripper? I don't know. We'll find out. You know,
Starting point is 00:33:59 the sad thing about this was, was she stuck to this story for days and days. Of course. Failed two polygraphs, well still sticking to the story. So everybody, you know, a few days into this, realize she's fucking lying. And she wastes everybody's time for days and days and days. Until fucking David gets in a room with her and says, what the fuck happened to our kids? And she finally confesses and tells them where to go find their two kids.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Oh, God, why would you do that? Yeah. It's a horrible idea. She led the authorities to the lake, drivers, recover. the car with the boys still strapped in their car seats. Autopsies confirmed drowning. The boys were buried on November 5th 1999. Her trial
Starting point is 00:34:39 began in July. Prosecutors argued premeditated murder to remove obstacles to a relationship with Finley. The defense cited mental illness and a failed suicide attempt again. The jury convicted her on two counts of murder and recommended life in prison.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Unfortunately, Carl, she received two concurrent life sentences with parole eligibility. Now, as you know can you tell me that she's a free woman right now and know what her number is she's still in prison thank god but here's a fun thing here's a fun fact this gal right here's a fun fact this gal right here as she's in prison like as she goes there first she goes to camille griffon graham correctional institution then they transferred at a leith correctional institution in the year 2000 after two guards were charged with having sex with her nice so she's fucking the guards she's horny and in 2002 she gave birth
Starting point is 00:35:28 to a son in prison oh god she's bad at this Yeah. That child was placed with a family. In 2015, she was disciplined for possessing meth in prison. Oh, she's a methad now. Yeah. That's fun. In October, 2024, she was cited for an authorized contact with a documentary filmmaker and accepting money for interviews, which is against the rules when you're a felon. On November 20th, 20, 24 at the age of 53, she appeared by video before the South Carolina Parole Board expressed remorse. And Carl, I have good news. I have some good news from her if I could find. it. I know I have good news from her, Carl. I may have fucked up my clip.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Oh, here it is. Here it is. Here it is. I am a Christian and God is a big part of my life and I know he has forgiven me. Oh, good. God forgave her. God forgave her, Carl. That's good. Well, also, God needs cute little kids in heaven. So that's probably they're calling anyway. She was denied parole, Carl. And she's eligible again in 2020. That is my creep The creepiest housewife The bitch who made a fool of her husband
Starting point is 00:36:37 Murdered her own children And ruined their lives forever Please go to Patreon.com Right now the poll is open And vote for Vinnie and Susan Smith Tell Carl to go fuck off Let's take the lead Let's stop this tie nonsense
Starting point is 00:36:50 Excelsior true believers You know I want to celebrate Super Chat Monday real quick Because people are been celebrating that And I appreciate it But also because it's something I just saw it roll by But first, Eb Nye. Creepiest toy collector is a future topic.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Check out if my Stuccio sneezing video for giggles, Glasgow represent. Oh, all right, yeah. Email that to me if I, because I don't know if I'll remember or find it. Yeah, please do. And a creepiest toy collector, I nominate myself. Exactly. Labar Mystic, thanks for the Fiverr. Get super tip to get around this stupid sensor.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Cry baby complaining about tape needs. Next consequence gets tape needs on top of consequence. Yes, we do need to get a super tip. Let's make that happen. Oh, tape nips, I think is what he was going for. Got it. Rock Orby, 2002, thanks for the five of that woman cheated on her hubby because she wanted to win Dixie. Am I right?
Starting point is 00:37:45 Come on. That's it. Come on. You got a job here, sir. Joseph Hamas, thanks for the 499. He's been in the news lately. Vinny, this was national news. What's next?
Starting point is 00:37:53 O.J's creepiest athlete. Carl brought OJ. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I just want to say to Mr. Hamas. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yes, this is a story that everyone's heard a million times. Just rehashed again by Vinnie poorly. Try hard or do better. Your lady was a hero. You brought a hero. Oh, so you can't defend yourself right now. You have to go after me. You should be ashamed.
Starting point is 00:38:21 All right. You should be ashamed of what you did today. All right. All right, Carl, that is my creep. Don't forget to vote this week. Let's kick it over for Carl's cop cam. Let's go. I can't wait to see Carl's Cockham.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Fight with the cops for no reason. Will you please show me Carl's Cockham? Lose all your rights. Ruin your life. All right, Carl. Anytime. Oh, I'm sorry, buddy. I don't know why I thought that was your.
Starting point is 00:39:00 segment to set up so I have a cop kid came in from Boner Guy okay I don't know why I thought that a boner guy sent in a video for us and what happens is
Starting point is 00:39:12 so there's a 13 year old kid going to school he's in sixth grade all right and apparently his stepmother Maria has this app on her phone
Starting point is 00:39:26 where she monitors his activity on his phone and she notices that there's like these text messages going back and forth between the 13-year-old and his 27-year-old teacher, Brittany Zamora. Brittany! Brittany! The sixth grade teacher.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Should I pull up the picture of her? Yeah, go for it. Getting some flirty texts going. Hi, Brittany. Hi, Brittany. Show another photo over. Brittany, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:56 All right, so she can clean up well. She's cute girl. She looks like a victim of jokes. gas in this. No, no, no, no. Come on, you would. You would. So what happens is they see that there's this flirtation thing going on. They report to the principal. And so the principal then puts Brittany on administrative leave. So Brittany finds out that the dad ran it on her and decides to call him up and plead with him not to press charges or make this a big messy ordeal. Maybe we can work this thing out and that's where we're going to pick up my clip number one he the father recorded
Starting point is 00:40:34 the phone call he received from brittany oh no yeah what type of perverted person are you i want to know right now you are a fucking monster you are a child do you understand me um no why do you see i'm a lot smarter than you i'm so much smarter than you you do not understand how much smarter than you i am i got you i want you to know that now i got you do me a favor do not call this number back again the next time you'll hear from me will be in court i am coming for you okay yeah you have a wonderful evening okay you stupid whoa can can you explain to me can we meet you know to talk about this if there's something we can settle out you know outside oh yeah
Starting point is 00:41:27 Oh, yeah, that's what we can do so I can give you a chance to do it to some other kid. Yeah, that's exactly what we're going to do. That's exactly, no. Mrs. Amora, do me a favor? Do not call me back again. Okay. Dad's pissed. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Dan, obviously, lost his virginity in college. He could clearly get some good sex out of this woman at this point. She's basically offering, like, what can we do? What kind of deal can we make? Well, maybe, maybe not, because then she puts her husband on the phone. We're going to meet Daniel. husband of this woman. This has been a very cuck-focused show today. And Daniel's going to try to plead with the father. Hey, man. Don't say amen to me. You got a monster. If I was you, you stupid
Starting point is 00:42:09 motherfucker, I'd leave her. Man, listen. No, listen to me, you stupid motherfucker. I'll cave. You're stupid, hey. Do you want to... I love it for my hand drunk. You're a stupid motherfucker. You know that. You dumb motherfucker. You dumb motherfucker. Think about... I mean, God I'm a priest's forgiveness, man. I'm a priest of forgiveness and I put my hands around your throat, you stupid motherfuckers. I understand your kiss, man. No, you don't get shit, you dumb fucking bitch. Listen to me.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I am not going to settle outside of court. There's not enough money you can possibly ask and offer me to settle this. You know what? This is the wrong dad. However, when you find out that the student that you're banging's dad has like knuckle tattoos? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:54 you've got to be careful. Also, I will say if he is trying to negotiate for a settlement, that's a good place to start. There isn't enough money in the world for me to, all right, how about $30,000? It's going to have to be more than that for sure. Well, I'm listening. Yes. So apparently, the dad sees this as an opportunity to tell Daniel, the husband. By the way, you probably don't even know the whole story of what's going on.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I guarantee you he doesn't. Your woman is a monster. Hey, you want me to tell you the whole story? She had another 13 year old in there watching the whole fucking thing. She's a monster. Okay. So we're going to find out
Starting point is 00:43:36 some crazy shit about... What a poor... Oh my God. About this woman. I always feel bad. This happens to these stories all the time when we did the Hot for Teacher special on Patreon a couple months ago. Yep. There's always this, the poor fucking ugly kid in the class who's going to be the lookout. Yes. And Boner guy's pissed at you, by the way.
Starting point is 00:43:53 for what he said he sent this to you before our hot for teacher episode and that you did not include this woman in our hot for teacher top 10 well there's going to be a part two we're going to do another one you listen you guys don't try to get a boner guy's good side man he's voting for carol i understand patron dot com slash the creep i understand boner guy i appreciate you i want you to know that but i will also say i appreciate our our producer alex who has flooded my inbox with pictures of these teachers that fucked to their students i have enough to do Three more episodes. Oh, well, that's exciting. I like doing that. So I can't use all of them at once, is the point. All right, so then Daniel pleads with the father not to press charges. Obviously, you can tell the dad ain't having it. Not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:44:37 So now, fast forward, we get to hear from the 13-year-old, the kid who's banging the teacher. Oh, God. From his best friend. And then they were making babies in the closet. And then the baby popped out. The baby looked at me. People started, like, saying rumors, but that out there are actually true, obviously. One girl was saying, like, a rumor about how he got more pregnant.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And there's just all the rumors about, like, how, like, they're so close to each other, how, like, oh, they might be dating. When the rumors got out of hand, the principal paid a visit to the class. And then Mr. Dickie came, he's the principal, Mr. Dickie, saying, I was talking to us. saying, yeah, she like stop these rumors and like talking about how can you like solve this situation by like telling a principal, just solving it by teacher and just talking to them. So this is hilarious because everyone in the class. Yeah, the teacher's name is Mr. Dickie. That's the principal.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yeah. So everyone in class knows that a sixth grade class knows these two are fucking. And so all we are doing is talking about it. So finally the prisoners are coming in and go, guys, stop spreading these crazy rumors that somehow this kid is fucking the teacher. We all know that's not true. It's not what goes out of this sixth grade class. So stop it all of you. Best principal ever.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Right. So then dad, by the way, should you be 13 and 6th grade? Because this is an 11-year-old. That makes more sense to me. This kid might be a slow. Anyway, so dad's got an idea on how to collect the evidence he needs to lock this woman up. The way we actually come from. told him, my son, you're going to text
Starting point is 00:46:24 it. I'm sorry, use this language you guys want the truth. And I said, you're going to trap her. You're going to make her tell me anything through these messages, and that's one that has anything you needed. Okay. I can show you right now what the messages say,
Starting point is 00:46:41 if any of you guys have the stomach to freaking read it. I can tell you some of the things that were written and listed it. She wrote things like, you get sexier to me every day. This is what she's texting a 13 year old.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Well, he's growing up. Yeah, he's getting sexy. And she says, I want you every day with no time limit. Apparently, he's been staying after class to help with the talent show
Starting point is 00:47:04 and that only lasts so long. Sure. She's like trying to go for a marathon fuck session, as we call it. Right. Here on the creep on. You know, those 13-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Yep. They go forever. Well, they don't go forever, but they can go a bunch of times, I bet. I bet they get a few sessions in a row. That's probably accurate.
Starting point is 00:47:23 So listen to one of the ways this woman got caught that is very funny by clip six. Principal Dickie called the officers again to report that the substitute teacher appointed for Britney's class had discovered some notes in a cupboard that Brittany and the victim had written to each other. With more distressing details revealed in these notes, police execute a search warrant issued on Britney's house and vehicle. During this search, Daniel once again tries to defend his wife. okay this woman's such an idiot she's leaving evidence that she's fucking a kid in class all over the place everywhere she goes there's more evidence there's notes and things going around what was really disturbing is how after they fuck she would take the condom and just slap it onto the blackboard and leave it up there right it was just out of the blackboard
Starting point is 00:48:07 trying to get caught lady what are you doing there's a bunch of them it's horrible yeah she would she would take a slurp out of it first but still so the the husband here is such a cuck listen to this question from the officer who's going to ask you guys don't have any kids right listen to this response I don't know kids right I'm sorry I wish now now what I do you wish you had kids now also I can have you know some I don't know all of what's going to happen right here you know so let's have a little more pieces of her oh fucking so he's like oh she's going to get locked away it'd be great if I had you know a memento or something to remember her by what the fuck is that That's wild. Just keep the note she left the kid around if you really want to remember. There you go. Yeah, go through and read that again.
Starting point is 00:48:56 All right. So we're going to find out that not only are these two falk in, but she's figured out ways to give them handies during class. Get the fact. I listen to this. Best teacher ever. She would be like, okay, class time for seeing it and get your snacks out and, like, go find a place to sit down. And then I would, I wouldn't really never bring a snack.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I would just, like, go up there. And I would press play. And I would, like, put my hand and go back and go. She was behind a chair and then she'll like stand behind me. The witness elaborates further that Brittany often organized viewings of a daily news program for students called CNN10 and the deplorable acts that really transpired during these sessions. When we're watching CNN 10, everyone watches CNN 10 and then she had a desk and then this is screen everyone looks that way so more said like like to come over here so we can have cover
Starting point is 00:49:55 so no one can see is there a time that um did you ever look of course look no because they tell me like not to look okay so that happened one time or more than one time more than one time like every day like at 240 would you say in 10 so you imagine how fun school would be if you know that a two every day you're going to get a hand job from the teacher. I was doing it all wrong. I was always looking forward to 420. Right. And I messed like 240. Is the good time. That's the hand job number. Oh, we should start that.
Starting point is 00:50:28 240, baby. All right. Can we get Danny to go along with it? Probably. All right. Don't... Hey, tell your husband you have to go to work at the cleaning factory at 240 every day. Wink, wink. If you know what I mean, it's a cleaning factory. You call it a cleaning factory?
Starting point is 00:50:45 Yeah, why not? That's my bullshit. What do you guys create this factory? cleaning. Yeah. Um, anyway, so, yeah, the teacher says, all right, we're going to watch CNN 10. We do this every day at 2.40. And everyone has to stare at the screen. You can't look over at me. All right. No, looking over at me and your friend, your classmate, and what we're up to over here, like, okay. He'll never come if you're all looking at him. Right. Yeah, he's, he's not like that. Holy shit. So then there are fucking in the classroom when there's no students there. And this is when we find out that there is a lookout. And where was everybody? They're all gone.
Starting point is 00:51:18 In a revelation that distresses everyone, the victim discloses that Brittany had been using the witness as a lookout. Tell me what her dress looked like. I can't remember that time. But the second time, I remember it was black. The second time? Was that the time in a car? Or do you mean? No.
Starting point is 00:51:40 That was the first time of the time in the car. And then, like, actually, I'm sorry, I missed it. That was the third time. And the first time of the time of the car, then it was a talent show, and the second one was the second day of the talent show. I got to say, if I'm 13 years old and I've had sex three times, I'm remembering each of them. I'm remembering every single.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Oh, yeah, what was that? Where were we fucking of that time? I guess that was in the car? Yeah, I guess that was in the car. I got to tell you, man, this cool. This guy has a better story than John's Battle of the band's story at high school. Oh, hell yeah. This talent show is way cooler.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Are you kidding me? This kid's fucking killing it over here. Now, I'll tell you where this teacher screwed up. Oh, can I guess? Well, it's not really a good idea to ask for nudes from a 13-year-old and then receive them. Did she ever ask you for pictures? Or did you ever send her pictures? Yeah, that's not good.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Okay. So he's sending her dick pics. So that's not a good thing for her. We'll see what happens with that. But first, so that 11-year-old kid who's like the victim, quote-unquote's friend. So he... No, that kid's the victim. He didn't get a piece of it.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I agree with him. But yeah, the 11-year-old lookout, apparently the teacher realizes, like, the more people who know about this thing, the better chance I'm going to get in trouble for it. So we've got to keep this under wraps. She tries to explain that. Okay. I told my friend, and then I told her that I told him. And then she said, she was, like, mad for a little bit, but then, like, she got over it. So how do you know she's mad?
Starting point is 00:53:12 Because she, like, that's messed up. that's what she said and she was like mad at me but I didn't really hear Ms. Amora like found out that I knew like a lot about them
Starting point is 00:53:23 and then Ms. Amora said what about if we get caught like I can go to jail and like what about if um or like tell us anyone we'll get in deep trouble
Starting point is 00:53:37 so this is the thing is that this teacher's like hey we got to keep us on the wraps I could get in a lot of trouble for doing this. And you don't want to negotiate with an 11-year-old about you getting into trouble. You're not a good place in your life if you're concerned about an 11-year-old possibly tattling on you. Like an 11-year-old has no idea the gravity of a situation like this.
Starting point is 00:53:59 They're to negotiate with you for candy at 11 years old. You could get a B-minus on a paper you thought you should have gotten an A-on and just be like, this bitch is fucking a 13-year-old and she's got dickpicks on her phone. You know what I mean? Like it would take much to send this woman away. And, of course, listen to this kid's thoughts on the matter. My next clip. Not a good person makes me sad and mad.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Mad because he's, like, a bad, like, influenced, bad person. She deserves to be in jail. It makes me sad because she was my sixth grade teacher. Okay. Shut up. So this little kid. Your mommy lectured you all the way to the police. station. Yeah, this little kid who knows everything that's going on, you don't want tannling on
Starting point is 00:54:48 you, thinks you're a bad person who deserves to go to jail. Wow, you done fucked up. Brittany, idiots. She's really bad at hiding this relationship she has. Yeah, I mean, she's jerking him off in a room full of other children. That's a demented person. Yeah, I know. It's fucking demented. So they arrest her. She actually leaves the house. They find her. They arrest her. they bring her in for questioning with the detective and she immediately goes I don't want to answer questions
Starting point is 00:55:16 so I have an attorney here Okay smart You don't have to do that But then she starts talking And my clip 13 This is an interesting question Um I'll be going home today
Starting point is 00:55:26 No So what I mean do Do these type of things Have to be in the public Um They don't have to be in public But you've kind of been in the school industry
Starting point is 00:55:43 long enough to know that when something happens at a school you know letters end up having to go out and people ask questions hmm well anybody speaking on the typical like conflict
Starting point is 00:55:59 don't tell if you didn't Google this already Brittany so she goes are people going to like make this a public thing he's like yeah you're a sixth grade teacher fucking a 13 year old yes definitely it'll be the news.
Starting point is 00:56:11 You're even going to be on the creep off, Brittany. Right, Brittany. This is going to be good for you in your career as a creep. You go places. So then she goes, what's the typical consequence? It's just like, I'm sure she Googled this. I'm sure she knows. The answer is you're going to go to jail or prison and your life is ruined.
Starting point is 00:56:26 You're going to drive to Gary Indiana. Yes. That's not what the consequence is, but it's much worse than that. Oh, no. Here's the final clip I have. I am the best husband in the world. Yes, you know. What's that?
Starting point is 00:56:44 On July 12, 2019, Zamora entered a guilty plea to a class two felony of sexual conduct with a minor, a class three felony of attempted molestation of a child, and a class five felony of public sexual indecency. She was sentenced to 20 years in the Department of Corrections in Arizona State Prison. She will be registered as a sex offender upon release and be on probation for the rest of her life. She also filed for divorce from Daniel while in jail.
Starting point is 00:57:11 What? Jesus Christ. This guy did nothing but try to help her out. There was even a part where he's sending her messages while she's on the phone with the principal and telling her what to say. Like, don't admit to anything. Don't tell Dickie shit. Right. So just giving her all this information.
Starting point is 00:57:27 He was up until her getting arrested. He's like, oh, my gosh, I just want to be with her. I want to have kids with her. And she divorces him. I do have an update. Okay. She is working as a tutor. In prison.
Starting point is 00:57:39 It's currently a tutor in prison. Does that mean like she tells on other cellmates? Probably fucks him. I think that's what she thinks, tutor, I guess. Anyway, Vinnie, I want to thank Boner Guy again for sending that in. Brittany Zamora is a creep and featured on Carl's cop cam this week. Thank you. Boner Guy.
Starting point is 00:58:00 We appreciate you. And I always appreciate when you call into the to WATP and leave voicemails telling people to vote. I appreciate democracy, Boner Guy. the creep off voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of syracuse i had so much fun trick-or-treating in syracuse over the weekend now i don't have the stock up on razor blades see you in syracuse didn't have a lot of voicemails this week but uh here we go vini i feel you with the fucking food delivery thing except you know i have this with amazon drivers and it's not just at my house. They fuck it up everywhere.
Starting point is 00:58:40 They fuck it up at the workplace, too. Like, for the longest time, they were delivering to the wrong fucking door, and they basically just throw the package right in front of the door, and I had to keep making signs at every door until they got to the right one to where I had to make another sign, say, go inside, and then I had to make another fucking sign, put it on the shelf, and still, they just throw it on the fucking ground, they're retarded. I don't think any of them can read. That's, that's it.
Starting point is 00:59:06 That fucking don't come to school tomorrow. You got it. Carl, these app delivery people are a real fucking problem. Yeah, but if you start putting signs up for delivery people, you're kind of in stuttering John territory, so I worry about that. This is the opposite of stuttering John. You should want them to show up and give you your stuff. I think that what I saw to do is just put in a bunch of grubhub orders and wait. Smart.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Just saying. How do you know they haven't done that? I think Dean Cain's probably on top of that. That's probably all he's good for. Right. All right. You got any voicemouse, Carl? I don't.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Well, that was all we got then. Great, because I have Point Davelpoint coming up at 4. So we'll keep this thing moving. But check that out on my channel. We'll be talking stuttering John. Absolutely. Please check out Point Dabble Point today. I believe it is time for a scum parade, Carl.
Starting point is 00:59:57 It's time for us to listen to the scum parade. We start some murder drugs and jay walking. You'll hear about a guy who fought his door and catch up our the news this week, I want to hear the scum parade. Where's the scum parade? Where's the scum parade? Oh, Carl, we got a fun one for you today. Let's meet this fella.
Starting point is 01:00:23 This is to Shikundi Tati. He's 44 years old. And he was arrested at a Maryland Planet Fitness the other day. Why you ask? Because he came up with a foolproof plan to see some ditties. Oh, nice. He wore this fun get-up. Oh, that lady?
Starting point is 01:00:40 No, that's a guy. That's a guy? I'm totally fooled by that. That's a guy who, let me make sure you could see this. We'll get a little close in the full body there. Who was sneaking into the women's locker room. I would have just held the door open for her. Come on in.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Here you are, ma'am. Yes. And she was going around with her phone out, just filming people in the locker room. Okay, that's only legal if you declare that you're trans. Then it's okay. But you can't just be a guy wearing a wig filming women changing. She was caught, well, he was caught after one situation in a planet fitness where he would wear the clothes, go into the women's locker, take the pictures, ditch the clothes, and try to run out. But someone caught him, called the police, and the police were able to catch him before he got away.
Starting point is 01:01:25 There's also concerns that he's been doing this in a lot of different places. Was he running in high heels? Is that why he couldn't get away from the police? Probably. Dumbies. Zoinks! Just took off. There was a similar.
Starting point is 01:01:37 incident where a woman says she was in a gym locker room and someone came in and just started taking pictures. So they think it might be this person as well. I saw it in there. It says the investigation will focus on determining why he spent so much time in the locker room. It's because he wanted photos of the hot ones. It's called curating. Oh, he went to a planet fitness for that, did you? Yeah. It's going to take some time to find ones who are worth photographing. That would be why. Yeah. You know, I used to go to Planet Fitness. Yeah. And all the women there are kind of looked like me. So I'm going to go ahead and say, probably not the best choice of gyms.
Starting point is 01:02:11 If you're going to be a pervert, spend the money. Go to LA Fitness. Spend the money. That's where the hotties are. Yep. All right. Let's meet our next creep. Now, I actually kind of feel for this guy.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Oh. I kind of side with him. You see, this is Mr. Charles J. Leggett, and he's been found guilty on one count of first degree intentional murder with a dangerous weapon and one count of being a felon in possession of a firearm after the slain of 26-year-old Jamil Owies. Now, here's the problem. This guy ordered a pizza, Mr. Legat, from Hunt Brothers Pizza. Well, that's the problem.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Hunt Brothers Pizza is fucking garbage. It's cardboard with ketchup on it and a little bit of cheese. Well, you've had this before? Dude, when you down south, there's not a lot of places to get good pizza. And when I was stuck in this one town, I forget where it was. It was port something in Florida is where my hotel was. There was nothing around to get food except for a Hunt Brothers Pizza. It was the worst I've ever had.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Is it a chain pizza place? It's also in a liquor store? I have seen it in liquor stores. I've seen it at gas stations. Really? Yes, it's not good. I did not know that. I've just figured it was the weirdest fucking store pizza and liquor.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Yeah. This is the thing, huh? Noah Halston. They sell Hunt Brothers Pizza in gas stations. The place I went to was next to a gas station, but it wasn't the gas station. so either way he goes in there he orders his pizza and he notices that this guy
Starting point is 01:03:39 who's preparing it's not wearing gloves we don't have to wear gloves when you're making the pizza really you don't think so when you're touching people's ingredients and shit you don't want to wear the oven while you're making the pizza you don't have to have gloves on you see that all the time they're whipping the dough up in the air and shit like that it's not going to go in the oven
Starting point is 01:03:56 everything gets cooked off charles was not happy about that okay he demanded that this motherfucker put some gloves on and remake his food because it's a germophobe i get it they start arguing about this and uh that's when he pulled out a gun and shot the guy in the chest well he's gonna win that argument um he mr ohies was dead on the scene and unfortunately he had just had a baby about three weeks before that oh i guess this crazy person didn't take into account that he's a a father now of the newborn he'd be like oh shit i don't that well my bad if i had known that there's video of all of it um they were definitely arguing there was no sound but it just shows this guy clearly pulling out
Starting point is 01:04:38 his gun and shooting him in the chest over uh the fucking pizza yeah and listen if you fuck with people's food if you're making people's food and they're not comfortable with the way you did it just fucking remake it who cares it's hunt brother's pizza yeah but sometimes the principle of it like i was saying if i'm laying pieces of pepperoni down before i throw it in the oven it doesn't matter i don't wear your fucking gloves with your touch of people's food you worked at a pizza restaurant for a while. Yeah. You were that. Did you use gloves when you're putting the pickles on the pizza?
Starting point is 01:05:11 You're God damn fucking right. All right. I mean, you don't have to. That's all I'm saying. I wouldn't touch a pickle like that. Are you kidding me? You're afraid of pickles, aren't you? I'm not afraid of them. I think you're disgusting. I think of pickle phobia. There's a new show on HBO. Welcome to Dairy. It's based on the It movies. It's like a prequel to It's in the 60s. And one of the main character's dad died in a pickle factory. Jesus Christ. And the joke is that parts of them ended up in pickles.
Starting point is 01:05:39 And in the second episode, there is a pickle monster. I had to leave the room. Vinny, I'm sorry, man. There's a literal pickle monster. I didn't realize. There's pickles everywhere. This girl's like in a fucking thing of like pickles that's like this deep. I was so skewed out disgusted.
Starting point is 01:05:52 If you ever need to call me, man, I'm here for you. All right? I don't care what I'm doing. I'll drop everything. I need a drink of water. I'll drop everything. If that happens to you again, man, call me. I don't want to see this pickle monster.
Starting point is 01:06:02 I'll talk you off the ledge, buddy. Either way, that guy's dead. This guy's getting life in prison. It's funny, too, because this guy confessed everything he did to try to get away with it. So he, like, got out of there, took all his clothes off, threw them away, went home, didn't tell anyone what he did. And then when the controversy about it, he's like, yeah, so what I did is I jumped out of there, took all my clothes off, threw them away, didn't tell anyone what I did. Jesus Christ. What was the point of doing any of that, that?
Starting point is 01:06:26 Yeah. And did you get the pizza? You're just going to confess to it all? oh my god could you imagine that someone handles his food without gloves out in jail I'd hit to work on the cafeteria staff there I like to think he learned his lesson I doubt it he's like I want this argument before motherfucker all right let's meet our next creeps Carl this is William Clark he's 54 years old and he's down in Tallahassee Florida
Starting point is 01:06:50 okay now he has a roommate and him and his roommate are having some problems yeah you see the roommate's letting people come to the house all the time and hang out he's letting people come over there and use the bathroom and take showers and shit that i didn't like when i got to that detail and i'm like yeah i don't want my roommate wedding guys come in and use the shower it's yeah he was concerned that the place was becoming like a drug house because this guy's just letting people in all the time okay so they get into a little bit of a fight and uh the roommate was recording clark with the cell phone at the time of this incident which started with clark slowly walking over to the man with a pan of grease that he was using to fry ribs okay you
Starting point is 01:07:26 You don't fry ribs. Correct. You smoke ribs. Correct. No one's ever said. You know how ribs are really good? Deep fry. Can you deep fry these for me?
Starting point is 01:07:35 Fuck you. That's not how you fucking prepare ribs, you idiot. Yeah. So on the tape, Mr. Clark Lixon says, you got this? The victim apparently asked, right before Clark allegedly throws the crease from the hot pan directly onto the man's face. Oh, boy. Just like your victim. In your story, this was a napalm.
Starting point is 01:07:52 This was just hot friar grease. I got to say, doing that in your house is pretty. dumb because cleanup's going to be a bitch for that dude it's the grease was all over the place yeah that's not that's not a smart move man i know i realize you're mad at your roommate and he's letting people use the shower i get that part i have actual audio of um him throwing the grease at him and then them slipping all over the place oh wow they were slipping on hot grease many yes they were while it dried and he was trying to get out get away cooled off and then they still slip it all over it they did find grease all over the house by the way yeah so this guy is in the hallway in a place
Starting point is 01:08:24 where he couldn't escape. He was like up against a wall. He threw the grease on him. Third degree burns over a quarter of his body. The roommate was allegedly in a location of the apartment. He had no mode of retreat. They found the grease all over the place. But according to Clark, he and the victim had an ongoing dispute.
Starting point is 01:08:39 So it's cool. Clark first stated during questioning that he threw grease on the victim because he stated, started recording and yelling that he was not leaving. Clark several minutes later then said the victim stood up in a threatening manner and lunged at him. Yeah. Yeah. Clark was allegedly unable to articulate what made the roommate's actions threatening and said that he held the pan of hot grease to use it as a weapon. By the way, in the video, fun fact, they said, the pan after he threw the grease, you could see the steam from the heat.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Oh, yeah. Hot the pan in the video. The grease is very hot. It's very hot grease. The roommate ran from the apartment after being attacked, and the police were called. He was transported by emergency helicopter to a local hospital and was said to be undergoing treatment in the ICU burn unit. Did you imagine the trauma you'd have Every time you saw a helicopter after that
Starting point is 01:09:27 Just reminds you of getting your face burned off By scolding hot grease I don't like looking at helicopters You just hear the noise like Dude your face just feels like it's melting all over again The whole Vietnam flashback Dude this guy his roommate looks like a melted candle For the rest of his life now
Starting point is 01:09:43 Fuck this guy He's granted a $10,000 bond in order to stay away from the victim Along with wearing a GPS monitoring device And he's been ordered to smoke the ribs. Never fry ribs asshole. Dude. This last story, I got to tell you, the creep is the state of California. I agree. I'm glad we're on the same page on this one. That's why I brought this story. This really upset me, Carl. Interesting. Jonathan M. Fay, 54-year-old principal, principal, right? He's principal in Amador Valley High School in Pleasanton, California. He was fired this past February after the district
Starting point is 01:10:20 investigation, substantiated allegations that he used a Grindr account to solicit current and former students for secret sexual encounters. Why would anyone give a fuck if he's trying to fuck former students on Grindr? Correct. What would that to do with anything? More of the issue is the current one. Okay. The case began in August 2024 when a graduate from the previous year reported receiving a message from a grinder profile called Eyes emoji, which he believed belonged to Fay. The account expressed interest in a discreet hookup and allowed the former student on Instagram and then the teacher followed the former student on Instagram the next day and action the student found suspicious.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Screenshots showed the user trading personal details while insisting on secrecy. A second complaint came from a current student who told investigators that that same account sought a quote secret romantic and sexual relationship and called him hella hot. A third former student reported seeing Faye's phone opened a grinder while he was chaperoning a school event. Okay. So this is an interesting detail right here. here. Yeah. So a current student claims that he was contacted by the principal, which means the
Starting point is 01:11:24 current student is on Grindr. Now, many times have changed. But when I was going to high school, that would be embarrassing. People found out you were using Grindr, if you had that app on your phone and people could contact you through that. Carl thought it was a skateboard app. That's his story and he's sticking to it. Hell yeah, man. I got Thrasher magazine. I thought it was about skateboarding guys. Grindr app. Hell yeah. Um, dude, agreed. But it's 2020. Faye denied owning the account, claiming identity theft, and filed a police report after he started getting questioned. I better go to the police and tell him somebody else did this quick. So he does.
Starting point is 01:12:00 He files this, the police investigate it, make no arrest, refer the matter back to the district. A neutral third-party investigator concluded there was probable cause to believe Faye had engaged in sexual solicitation of students. So they put him on leave shortly after the first report. he then appeals his termination to an administrative law judge in late 2025. Then the state paid him $254,000. Here's my question for you, Benny. Would you try to fuck a high school boy for a quarter of a million dollars? No.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Try to fuck for a quarter of a million dollars. I would. No high school kids fucking me. I got nothing to lose on this one. I'm just sending messages saying, hey, you're hot. Let's have secret sex. I get $254,000. for that? It seems like a pretty good deal.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Un-fucking real. District officials stated they acted promptly and settled to avoid forcing students and staff to testify in a hearing. Board President Justin Brown, I hope it's our Justin Brown. The most retarded board in the history of boards.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Confirmed a report would be sent to the California Commission of Teacher Credentialing, which will investigate potential revocation of face teaching license. The findings were made on file for five years and be available for future employers. Yeah, he's not going to get job again. Yeah, no civil lawsuits have been publicly filed against Faye as of the settlement. The case emerged amid a wave of sexual misconduct claims against California's school districts.
Starting point is 01:13:24 So they're just writing checks and everybody's filing complaints. Yep. You fucking idiots. So I'm going to throw this out there, Benny. I think it's very possible that this guy's telling the truth and that it's not his grinder account. Maybe. Because as a principal of a high school, you're a lot of people who want to fuck with you. You know, when they get out of school, they're like, fuck principal, Faye or whatever his name is. I am going to fuck him up. I'm going to start a grinder account, start hitting on all the gay students in school.
Starting point is 01:13:52 So I'm with you on that. But my issue is they did an investigation and they said they found probable cause. Yeah, but who did an investigation? The school board. They said a third party. They said a third party investigator. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:14:05 The police have no charges. They're just like, whatever. There's nothing going on here. But they got to, if there isn't anything going on there, why are they just writing checks? That guy doesn't look like a guy wants to fuck the students, though. Certainly does.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Yeah. That little elephant thing he has back there is Ben in a kid's butt. Oh, that's fun. That's a fun fact. Yeah, I learned that. I didn't learn that. The leg or the trunk? The trunk.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, the trunk would be more interesting to get up there. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Do you learn that in your Thrasher magazines? No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Transworld. Tuky's unpaid staff wants to know where you find your twinks, Carl. Right. That's what I'm talking about. So I just found this whole story fucked up. The fact that they're paying out this kind of money For people who very clearly There's something weird going on
Starting point is 01:14:52 Hey Vinnie You know who has to pay that money? Us California taxpayers And you know what they deserve To lose all of their fucking money Because they keep voting in idiots Who just want to waste all their fucking money
Starting point is 01:15:04 So fuck them If you pay taxes in California You're fucking idiot You deserve have your money stolen Take that dick Yeah take that dick master said All right folks And that is this week's scum parade.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Let's get caught up on Super Chats because I got to go. I know you do, buddy. I got places to be, which is my studio. Sorcercery Gypsy says, I think Carl win for sure. Hell yeah. Bullshit. That gets it. Syc Labs.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Happy Super Chat Monday. Watch Levyverse at 3 p.m. Eastern. All right, Syclax. Sike does really good work. Thank you, buddy. Appreciate that. Thanks for joining us.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Lyc. Labyrinth, thanks for the two bucks. Brittany's second pick looks like an off-brand Barbie. Yeah. Is she a 10? No. She's not a 10. but you're 13 years old you're in sixth grade still for some reason you'd be pretty excited to fuck her
Starting point is 01:15:51 she looks like skipper okay now we're just gonna get insulting we are everybody thank you so much for tuning in and watching the creep off now if you want to support the show if you like it and you've enjoyed it real simple thing you could do if you're watching this over on the who are these podcast channel go over and throw a subscribe over on the creep off channel we do appreciate that and even if you're feeling squirlier than that and you like the show that much please find on Patreon when you go to vote become a member when you do you're going to get access to all of our past bonus episodes merch plus all our new episodes just about every friday we have a brand new show for you what did we do last week carl our bonus show yeah remember what we did we did a cop cam and a
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Starting point is 01:17:14 Last super chat we got in today, it's from, how do you say this name, Carl? I think it's L-I, L-I, L-I, L-I, so I go lo-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l. Hi, Carl, hi, Vinny. What's your favorite food each? Go, Carl. Tacos. Pizza. Thank you, good night, everybody.
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