The Creep Off - Episode 286: 2:40pm at the Cleaning Factory
Episode Date: November 3, 2025Today in honor of National Homemaker Day, Karl and Vinnie roll up their sleeves and dive into the world of domestic true crime drama to uncover the creepiest housewives of all time. Join us... as we expose the dark side of homemaking you won’t believe.The score is currently Vinnie 2 – Karl 2 – Guest 4 visit patreon.com/thecreepoff to vote and decide this week’s winnerCheck out this week’s scum parade stories here: Terrifying secret of long-haired gymgoer in mask who entered women's locker rooms | Daily Mail OnlineMan who killed cashier over pizza order is sentencedAngry roommate hurls hot grease on housemate: PolicePrincipal resigns after investigator finds Grindr app used to pursue sex with student | KTVU FOX 2Want more of the madness? Support the show on Patreon, Supercast & Backed.by to snag exclusive merch and get an extra bonus episode every week!Support free speech help to donate to Karl & Shulis Legal fund visit FIGHTHEDABBLER.COMDon’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108You can follow our Results girl Danni on Instagram @Danni_Desolation
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Disgusting, vomit-inducing thing.
Ola, creepos, welcome to another episode of your favorite true crime podcast,
the show about creeps, by creeps for you creeps.
I'm your host.
My name is Vinny, Excelsior at all you true believers out there.
Joining me today in the studio, it's hot cucka-c-c-c-carol!
What is happening, Vinnie Pauline?
I was so good to see you, my friend.
I apologize for my tardiness.
though I will tell you.
And I'm happy to start up this show because we got a good one for you today.
We do have a great one for you today.
In fact, Carl, I'm really excited about today because we're celebrating a national holiday
that doesn't get enough recognition.
Right.
Super Chat Monday.
I know.
No one ever talks about it except for us.
Thank God for us.
Yeah.
Well, thank God we're celebrating it.
But there's also another day.
It's one of those bullshit holidays that they just made up for no reason.
Okay.
Today is National Homemakers Day.
Oh, for the Homemakers.
Yeah.
And they finally get a day.
Yeah.
Isn't that nice to have a day they could just relax?
Right.
Those poor people making all those homes.
Well, we're going to do...
For a lot of people, that's a part-time job.
For most people, we're going to do them all a service.
All of you, homemakers and housewives out, we're going to do you a service by pointing out,
who is the shittiest among you?
Today, we're going to find the creepiest housewife.
All right.
See, we're the only ones actually celebrating holidays in the Dabalverse.
That is absolutely true.
Now, Carl, before we get too far, we need to explain.
to everybody this is a competition yes the creepoff is a true crime competition the format is
vini and i both present the biggest creep from a certain category and you you hear us out
and then you go to patreon.com slash the creepoff and you vote for her you thought brought the bigger
creep on this episode we tally those votes the next week at the beginning of the show we'll
talk about who won the previous episode that person will get a point once one of us gets to
five points that person wins the round the other person has to spin the dreaded wheel of
consequences and I'm happy to report there are no looming consequences right now all
consequences have been fulfilled board is clear baby that's correct first time in a long time
and the current score is vini two I have one point of course I did score a point last week
when we moved our voting over to patreon uh-huh so I'm interested to see what the results are this
week Vinny now I've actually not looked I'd be honest with I forgot to vote myself and I have not
looked at all so I'm not sure I don't know anything well here to tell us
today is our
results girl who I have
a bone to pick with. Oh, boy.
And I have an issue I want to discuss with her.
Wow, fireworks. Yeah. Here she comes.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Uh-oh.
Bonar alert.
Hi, Danny.
Danny.
You kind of got like Halloween vibes still going.
I know. I continue to.
I'm digging it. I like it.
I like that.
sweater on her. It's very open
in the front. It is, yes. It's very
nice. It's open in all the right places. It is.
I got to tell you, Carl. She told me
something that I'm a little disturbed by
before we started the show. I'm sorry to call
you out like this, Danny. Wow. We're
doing a meeting right on the air, huh? Oh, yeah,
we are. Okay. We are. We're having a meeting.
All right. Danny told me before
the show started that she had a plan for
Halloween, but then she did, for our Halloween show last week, and then she
didn't do it. You want to tell Carl what your plan was
going to be.
Am I going to be disappointed in you, Danny?
Yeah, probably.
I was planning on doing the cow bikini for Halloween.
What, what, what?
And I got the costume out and the most important part was missing.
Tell him what you think the most important part was.
The top.
That's the least important.
Are you kidding me?
By the way, no matter what you said, I would have said,
that was the least important part.
But either way.
So you had not opened this thing.
How long have you had it for?
I've had it for a couple years.
Yeah, I remember.
I remember you getting it.
And then you got pregnant and delayed things.
And you haven't even looked at this thing in all that time.
Could you even return it at this point?
She had it before.
Oh, Danny.
She had it before the show because apparently she's a lot of fun.
Yes.
She is a lot of fun.
So you never put it on.
You never tried it on before.
I have tried it on.
It's just been a while.
Oh, so you lost the top.
I guess so.
I got everything out and everything was there.
Danny, you should have talked to us about this beforehand because we could have had an offline meeting with solutions.
I like solutions driven meetings.
We solve all the problems.
So here's one.
You put your hands like here, you know, just like here and here.
One finger over the important part.
Yeah.
And you move them up, you move them down, you know, to get a couple shots, a couple different ways.
You know, you do that.
another idea is electrical tape you ever play with some electrical tape on there i mean it's not great
coming off but going out it's fun um i'm gonna tell you something i actually i used to be a stripper
so yes i've electrical tape interesting all right let's talk about this so how was electrical tape
what's the application for that when you're a stripper um just to tie their hands after you drug them
and take their wallets carl no no no i'm sorry
What was that daddy?
You got rudely interrupted by my fraud here.
Oh, you're fine.
It's just to cover the nips.
That's it.
Why are you covering the nips if you're a stripper?
At the time, they, I guess in my state, they didn't do full nudity.
Well, kick them out of the union.
Titties aren't full nudity.
What fucking state are we talking about here?
Kentucky.
Kentucky.
I need someone to researches.
Mint salad.
Can you get on this for us, please?
I need to know if this is true.
in Kentucky flopping them all over the place.
Oh shit.
You can't drive through Kentucky
and I was seeing midstance.
You kidding me?
This wasn't like
2015 though.
What about assholes?
Could you show your asshole at the strip club?
I don't think so.
Were you allowed to wink at people like that?
No, it's crazy
because when I went to the strip club
before I was ever a stripper,
everybody was completely naked.
So I have no idea when that changed.
But yeah.
Is that the job you were holding?
hoping to get full nudity no no i applied too and they said no yeah danny was it just you they said
no keep those keep those things hidden what's going on here i don't i don't think that's the case i'm
just curious no no by that point just everybody was a slight bit more covered up and i was
a little more comfortable with that at the time i'd never done anything like that really so what got
you into stripping then by the way this show just got completely derailed for going to
about all the research i did i spent all morning working on shit it doesn't matter uh what got you
to strip me why did you decide to pursue that career oh god um drugs and money nice that's the reason
that's the right reason right there see that's the right reason to get into stripping not a college
education or anything like honest here we're all adults we can talk about this like adults danny
daddy daddy um so slow chat danny was uh was there ever anything like beyond stripping maybe for certain
clients who either you were fond of or maybe brought drugs for you?
No, no.
It was just, um, me and my friend started stripping there together because she wanted to do it.
And I was like, okay, why not?
I'll go with you.
And it seemed to be easy money at the time.
Sure.
I was like, okay.
How long did you do this job?
Sorry.
How long did you do this job?
Only for like a couple months.
and then I got pregnant.
That ruins that.
Was it a client?
No.
All right.
I'm just curious with now.
No, I know.
I understand that.
I just wondering how you guys met.
That's all.
No, we were,
we were together then.
How do you feel about you stripping?
Was he okay with it?
He didn't know.
Oh,
does he know now?
Oh.
He knows now.
You were hiding.
Where do you think you were doing at night time
until 2 a.m.
or whatever it was?
Doing like a cleaning job.
I don't remember when I told him.
I was lying about it.
Danny, this is fun.
It was not sometimes.
I've had a couple people,
I had to get a couple people bounced out of there.
It was fun because I had a friend with me, you know,
and it was,
we got to like kind of do stuff together sometimes.
Like kissing stuff?
Like what do you mean to get to do stuff together?
Oh, like dance on the stage together and stuff like that, you know.
Did you?
have a stripper name it was oh fuck it was lucy really actually yeah okay i know lucy we know
one of those i'm familiar danny all right here's the deal i have a lot a lot more questions you seem like
you're open for it so that's great but we got to put a pin in it right now because we have a show
to get to and this really will derail the entire show yeah um let's just do uh creepiest housewife
next week no no no let's put a pin in this conversation biddy we'll do the
creep off. We haven't even getting the results
yet. I don't even know where in the show
we are. I was about to start hitting Carl's Cap Cam. I don't know
what we're doing. Yeah. Let's get back to
basics. Okay. Danny, who
won last week's episode? Okay.
57%
for Halloween creep. The vote
goes to Amy Veraldi
and Carl. Yes.
Get fuck out of here. Let's go!
My guy ripped the baby out.
He dropped it up with the machete.
What the hell is he supposed to be?
I believe in America, God.
This is very exciting right now.
Thank you very much.
I've tied the score up two to two.
See, this is clearly what happened here.
Carl figured out how to cheat on Patriot.
That's why he wanted it all moved over there.
Because he wanted to figure out.
Is this your strategy, Vinny?
Now, just because I won two in a row.
No, I'm a cheater.
That's your strategy.
when a guy's chopping a baby out of a woman
and then chopping it up
and throwing it around the house
like it was party favors.
You better call it.
Too many came up with jokes for it this week.
You should have done that last week, idiot.
I don't know how to respond to that.
I got it.
Danny, we're going to have to talk more.
Yes.
We love you.
You are a delight, Danny.
Where can everyone find you?
On Instagram
at Danny Desolation.
I can't talk today. Sorry.
I think you're more flustered than we are about this.
A little bit.
I have never talked about this.
This is exciting.
Really anywhere.
All right.
Well,
you're going to be talking about it every week now, so.
Yep.
Do you remember when we found out that Jess's parents were Swiggers?
We just started asking about it constantly.
And then she was like, hey, I got a job at a bank.
I can't talk to you guys anymore.
Yeah, she just quit the show because of it.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's not do that to Danny.
Let's not scare Danny away.
No.
No.
Danny, send me a link to whatever cow
bikini in the world you want it's on the show we will get it for you it's on the show
yes we haven't the budget for your complication whatever you want you just let us know you send
me a link also uh if me hellie is watching and she used to be a sex worker or something if
she wants to just write it and let us know we could probably get a slot for her back on the show
sometime soon uh redhead meg blonde meg yep mulka any of you that want us know what you
bet up to please do uh or any of you ladies out there feel free to say hello Danny we love
you're the best we'll see you soon thank you danny all right well i'm just friends the rest of the show
jacking it jacking it jacking it spike it spike it smack electrical tape on the nipples though that's
weird i bet it hurts when you take that off i bet it's not a fun strip club to go to i bet you it also
sucks is after you put electrical tape on your nips yeah later when you go home and your nips stick to
your shirt because like the glue comes off that's not yeah or like you know she was being
modest about it but like you know a guy slips her a hundred dollar bill and
he's sucking out her tinnies later that night in the alleyway and he's like ugh so gunky on the nipples
you know what's terrible though i feel bad for like for her dude because like he thought she was
working at a factory yeah or like at a like cleaning sure and like every day he's coming home
he's like boy things must be really busy at the glitter factory you're just comforted
glitter there's glitter all over the house honey what's going on so much moisturizer to just
clean up the fucking rooms it looks like it looks like somebody murdered a fairy in the bathroom
There's just glitter everywhere.
Unbelievable.
It's amazing.
You get off every week of your period each month.
Is that something they arranged ahead of time?
How does that work?
I'm not implying the strippers don't have their period.
I know they do.
People are going to start writing.
Curl's such a fucking idiot.
No, I know.
I know what's going on.
Danny, stop calling,
stop say that Danny was playing around with clients.
I don't think she cares for that.
Yes, yes, she was not.
I was joking.
Thank you.
She's one of the good.
She was a good,
egg she was a good egg she was just talking up with her friend who was the stripping she was following
the rules covering her nipples being a good girl while dancing topless for men someone wrote
car was a titty sucker yeah oh god i hope now with those teeth that's sucking on some tities what are you
kidding me too i destroy them he's got to stay away from the fake ones they pop
doctor's orders doctor steve says you're not allowed your fake titties anymore this is true wow
We have a show to get to, Vinny.
But first, let's celebrate Super Chat Monday.
People are here to celebrate with us, and we appreciate it.
Like, Hellraiser, 69.
I saw Hellraiser this weekend.
He came by the club to see Rich Voss.
Oh, very cool.
Who told me some fun stories, I'll tell you off.
Oh, I'm excited about that.
I would have been at that show, but The Ice Us were playing in Buffalo.
And I saw our friend Jerry, who came to both of our shows this weekend.
He came to the Ice Tub's show first set and then went down to Rochester and caught your show.
Yeah.
I love Jerry.
He's such a good dude.
Labyrinthistic, thanks for the Fiver of Consequent.
open hand slap off the winner gets the first slap next top five people in the dabbleverse
you want to get slapped all right do we get to line up five people who want to slap you and let
them slap you because that seems dangerous we should just recreate the um the scene from airplane
where the woman's being hysterical ah ha ha ha ha hey there he is michael p i was going to wait
to reveal these but uh michael p he says vini and karl both sort of resemble what a creepy
Housewave could look like, Excelsior and Go Bills. So Michael P was at the Isotope Show in Buffalo.
Yeah. And he got us gifts, Vinny. Well, mine's sitting here. I haven't. I just told not to look at it. I told
Minnie not to look at it yet. First, let me show you the one that he got for me.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. It's like a Tusk Sabre t-shirt. And up in the corner says just do it.
Ugh. The Nike swoosh. So, uh, so yeah, that's very fun. He also got one for producer Chris
with a cool design and Lucy got one as well.
And he gave one for you to me to hand off.
Yeah, you hand it to me, and it's folded like this, so I haven't seen it yet.
I do see the Jeff Do It part.
Yep.
But let's see what we get on here.
I think you're going to dig this, Vinny.
That's right.
The Miami Dolphins logo with a moonhead.
Oh, that is perfect, bro.
I love it.
I love it, Michael.
This is phenomenal.
Yeah.
Michael Pete has some very good work.
Him and his buddies came out to the show.
Always good to see him.
I kind of love this.
He drags people to dabble cons and isotope shows.
He's a good egg.
I fucking love this, man.
Thank you.
This is great.
And it is the 5X, I told him 5X.
I'm not a 5x, you piece of shit.
Titty sucking asshole.
Titty sucking.
What's going out around here?
When you do it, it's all wrong.
All right.
Labyrinthistic, creepiest striper with clits.
There's pending charges.
There are pending charges right now.
There's blood everywhere.
You had your period last week.
What the all?
that's me,
how's me,
all right.
My bad.
She'll never walk again.
Labormissicic.
Creepiest stripper or a club employee.
I believe we did do Creepieus stripper a long time ago.
We might have to bring that back though.
Yeah.
All right.
Next Monday.
Or actually,
you know what?
We're doing the show Tuesday next week.
We are.
Creepiest stripper next Tuesday.
And Tuky's unpaid staff,
a member for four months for the wheel,
loser has to listen to one hour of Kiki,
one hour of steel toe.
Punishments are too fun for Carl.
That's brutal.
Well,
you recall the 12-hour,
terrible podcast stream that I did.
It would have been way worse
if Steeltoe and Keanu were involved.
No one's ever listened to One Hour of Keanu.
We don't even know what would happen.
Gino hasn't even listened to one hour of Keanu.
No, he's too busy talking at her.
Relationship.
Yes.
Right.
And that is that, Carl.
I believe it's time to start the competition.
Creepiest housewife.
Let's go.
I won, so I will go first.
I'll ask you to pull up the photo I sent you of Corinna Smith.
Yes, sir.
Criticist was 59 years old.
Ah!
When she and her 81-year-old husband, Michael Baines, had an argument back on July 14th, 2020.
And following this dispute, she was pissed.
She's very angry about what's going on.
So Michael goes to bed.
And Corinna went to work on a concoction.
She starts boiling water and mixing in three big bags of sugar into it.
It's a boiling, gooey mess.
She then carries the boiling sugar water into the boiling water.
into the bedroom
and let me tell you
there are shitty ways
to be woken up
but this is the shittiest
many
she decides to pour this
concoction all over her husband
Michael
well vengeance
so this is like
molten sugar
yeah so the sugar
is added to make it viscous
it becomes thicker
and stickier
and sinks into the skin better
so you're not just
pouring boiling water on someone
and then they get off the water off
that's like fucking napalm dude
that's like really bad
It's really bad.
And an 81 year old man, not great.
And then, rather than call emergency services,
Karina leaves the house, runs to a neighbor's that's like nine houses away.
She's not even friends with this person.
She just runs to a house, nine houses away.
Rings the doorbell, person answers.
And she says, I quote,
I've hurt him really bad.
I think I've killed him.
So the neighbor decides to call the police.
And because Karina was in no hurry to do so.
so emergency services.
I think I killed about we could wait five or ten more minutes just to make sure.
What do you been up to?
What happened to our bridge club?
So responding officers find Michael whimpering in bed with the skin on his arm and hand peeling off.
Was he saying who could make a sunrise?
No, he was an utter agony, Vinny.
It's really a horrific thing.
So he's taken to the burn unit where he remained for almost five weeks until he eventually died from the burns.
he had suffered burns on 36% of his body.
That's over a third, I'm told.
Yeah.
Corona was found guilty and sentenced to life with a minimum of 12 years in prison.
This is in the UK, so I know it never gets life, but minimum of 12 years in prison for this horrific act on her husband.
And that's my creepiest housewife.
So I need to know something, Carl.
Yeah.
Because I did a little reading on the story because she was someone that I researched for this.
Yeah.
And do you want to tell everybody why she was mad at her?
husband? Yeah, I guess she had lunch
with her daughter that day, and her daughter said that
like he had molested her or something. We don't
know. Oh, so she could have been
a pedophile. No, no, not necessarily. I think the daughter was
making up a lot of stories and telling tales out of school.
I don't think she knew what she was talking about.
Oh, okay. She's a crazy person.
Let's focus on the victim here, many. The victim is Michael
Baines, who was murdered
with boiling sugar water
while he was sleeping. Which if
the accusations were true,
it was better than he deserved. And agonizing.
An agonizing death, Vinny, an agonizing death because he suffered for weeks.
I feel like, I don't know, man.
I feel like I'd be happy if someone who actually was a pedo suffered for weeks before they died horribly.
Yeah, but we don't know that to be the case because he was never convicted,
and we don't even know what the conversation was between her and her daughter.
There's a lot of speculation, and Vinny, you can try to sabotage my creep, and I'll just return the favor.
I would like to see you try.
All right.
Here we go.
All right.
Let's hear about what upstanding.
citizen you brought as the creepiest housewife. Well, this is her, Carl. She looks great. She does not
look great. She looks like a gem. The year is 1994, and we're going to South Carolina, my friend.
This is a young lady named Susan Smith, who is 23 years old at the time. Now, let me tell you a little
bit about her real quick. She had a little bit of a rocky childhood. Her dad killed himself.
So she used that to get attention. No. But she used that to get attention for the
majority of her life. For example, when she was 13 years old, she got really upset and
faked attempted suicide. Then, you know, she graduated high school in 1989. She got a job
working at a Win Dixie supermarket. And she has an affair with a married coworker tries to break
up his marriage. And when that doesn't work, she tries suicide again. I can fix her. No,
she's not worth fixing. But in 19. She just needs the right guy. In 1990, Carl, she does meet a guy
named David Smith, a guy that she worked with at Winn-Dixie.
Here's a picture of him.
Oh, what a happy couple.
Now, they got married on May 25th of 1991 at the barrel of a shotgun because he knocked
her up.
Their son, Michael, was born October 10, 1991, and that's his little brother, Alex, who
was born in 1993.
It's a horrible haircut, but it's a cute family.
Well, early 90s, Carl.
It's probably the same haircut you had.
That's probably true.
I was that young in the early 90s.
He worked at the Wind Dixie, but he wanted his wife to be able to stay at home and take care of the kids.
So she was a housewife.
She stayed at home with the kids.
Well, if he's got a sweet job at the Win Dixie, then yeah, you can afford to let her stay at home and raise the children.
Look at her playing with a having a nice time.
Look at those little cuties.
That's so fun.
Yeah.
You know, they don't stay at that age for very long.
You got to really appreciate it.
No, they can stay that age forever, technically.
We'll get to that.
God damn it.
The marriage.
Why am I setting you up?
The marriage was struggling, Carl.
And it wasn't just money because he got a new.
job he got he left the when dixie and started working at a mill in town so it was a higher
paying job good the problem in their relationship was infidelity mm you see this bitch was
cheating on her hardworking husband who let her stay at home with the kids and worked his ass off
he had too much she had too much free time she had too much free time fantasizing my other dick yeah yeah
and guess who's dick she was fantasizing about car i couldn't couldn't venture a guess uh this is uh i
believe uh what's his first name finley his let tom finley tom is the son of her husband's boss okay
she worked he worked he is the son the owner of the mill's son who she met at a christmas party
okay does he work at the mill is he a co-worker as well or he's just the son not just the son just the
rich son of the guy who owns the mill cool who starts fucking around with one of the low level
employees' wives. Nice. Now,
that's not nice. What do you mean?
This is why she's a creepy housewife. Like, your
woman was faithful
to her guy until she found out he was
a pito and then decided to act on it like
a real hero. Here we go again. You know,
this revision is history. Mine has got
two kids at home. She's got a
man taking care of her and she's
fucking going out and suck at his
boss's kid's dick.
That's fucking horrible, Carl.
Is it though? I mean,
that's the fucking worst thing I've ever
This guy's working too many hours to satisfy her sexually.
Someone's got to do it.
Not only that, Carl, if it was just about sex, that's one thing.
Sure.
But she fell in love with Tom Finley.
That's the problem.
And she comes up with all these grand ideas in her head about how they're going to have a life together.
And she's to get rid of that loser, David.
And she wants to leave David and marry Tom.
Now, on October 17-
Why is someone rushing to marriage, especially if they're, like, cheating and shit?
It's like, your marriage isn't working out.
Why do you want to get married again?
well this is early 90s in the south that's the way they all think
I love that you just you go imagine it's the 90s okay well that's the way it was back
then in the south man there are still 30 years behind the 90s in the south is like the
70s everywhere else got it like you know things at times are a little tougher there
your math is off but I got it probably so um he breaks up with her Carl yeah Tom
dumps her because you know why he wrote her a letter and he said I don't want to be the
dad to your kids right I'm just fucking you what do you think
this is and then he added in the letter i don't want you to be the mother of my kids you're sucking
your husband's boss's kids dick yeah you think i want to have a fucking family with you not a great
person it turns out and then he added that plus my dad would be pissed off if he found out i was
fucking one of the employees wives got it so he should have led with that he should have been like
oh my dad won't want me doing sorry you know rather just be an asshole about it for a week this bitch
is acting out of control of the house she's taking everything out on poor david she got dumped by her boyfriend
And of course she's upset.
Poor David is getting the shit end of the stick here because she's giving him a hand job right there that photo.
That's pretty sweet.
That's no, David.
That's maybe.
Maybe she's rubbing it over the pants.
Yeah.
But she's screaming at him yelling at him.
And like a cunt, she tells her husband to get out of the house that he's paying for.
Right.
I mean, you're not allowed to live here anymore.
I'm going to stay here.
I have the kids.
Get the fuck out.
Yeah, it's an arranging.
And she's all upset because her fucking.
boyfriend dumped her and he's none the wiser he's completely clueless okay so he fucking like packs up
and leaves and goes and stays with a friend for a couple of days hoping everything blows over well on
october 25th at approximately 7 15 p.m. Susan took her kids out for a ride she went down to the
John d long lake with Michael and Alex strapped into car seats she went up to the top of a hill
overlooking the lake that's what she released the handbrake and let the car roll
into the water with both of the kids securely strapped in to their car seats.
The vehicle sank into 18 feet of water, 122 feet from the shore.
Both of the kids drowned and died a horrible death, all because her boyfriend didn't
want to be the dad of someone else's kids.
She murdered her own two little boys.
Now, hold on a second.
You say they died terrible deaths.
They could have been napping at the time.
They might have thought they were in SeaWorld.
It might have been great.
Like, my guy died.
It took five weeks in the burn unit for him to finally die.
That was a horrific death.
These kids, they might have thought they were playing or something.
They thought they were driving the car.
Like, wee.
Oh, really?
Until the water starts coming in and they can't breathe anymore.
It's bath time.
Wee, it's bad time.
Kids hate bath time.
They're like, it's nap time.
So after this happened, she goes running all to a nearby hotel and tells them that this guy
took her kids.
Yep.
She says that guy looks like a guy
who would take her kids too, I believe it.
She said that she's close.
Stopped at a red light and that this guy
jumped into her carjacked her at gunpoint
and drove off with the children.
The false report led to a nine-day manhunt
and national attention and national news coverage.
What did she say the motivation might have been
for him to drive her kids
in the car into the way?
She didn't know, nobody knew where the kids were
during the man hunt.
Right.
They were all underwater.
Got it.
So they have a press conference, Carl.
I would love to you to watch some of...
Last week you brought in that lady who apparently won for you.
She was lying on the news.
So bitter.
I love it.
Please.
Fuck you.
I love it.
I love it.
So this woman, that woman went on the news and made up a story.
He's like, oh, it was terrible.
Watch this acting in front of the entire national media.
If she doesn't drop an end bottle...
I would like to say to whoever has my children.
Davy Jones has your children.
That they please.
I mean, please bring them home.
Please.
To us where they belong.
Our lives have been torn apart by this tragic event.
I want to get a real tear going there, lady.
Show us smiling.
I can't expect.
express how much they are wanting back home how much we love them we miss them cut all right
can we get uh another person on the set i don't think this will be able to pull this part off i don't
know who's in charge of casting get get cast in here now i'm not happy with this carol this husband
this guy she threw out of the house cheated on like a complete sucker is standing there with his arm
around her yeah he's a cuck oh my god he's an emholt they
They are our hearts.
And who I have prayed every day.
Have you?
Pause it real quick.
What's even the point of this?
What's the point of the press conference with the grieving mom?
If I were her, I'd be like, yeah, people know I'm upset and I lost my kids.
I don't need to go up in front of them and put on the water works.
I know the answer to this.
What is the answer to this?
The answer to this is the police think that it humanizes the situation.
And if the kids are alive and someone actually just abducting.
to the children that it might tug at their heartstrings to let the kids go oh well that's actually
a good answer but i wasn't expecting that out of you never ever i know that's why they do it though
okay good so i just wanted to point out her bad acting and let's watch a little bit more this is a
great question a reporter gets her and does a little interview with her she's not a suspect yet
the kids are still missing this is she's pretty cute though right without that hair yeah yeah the hair's that
great yeah the 90s just 23 year old little southern girl running around she's older than that now but
Yeah.
Was there anything about the demeanor of the man that gives you concern?
Hey, he was black.
I told you.
Is black a demeanor?
Is there anything about the demeanor of the man?
Listen to this answer, Carl.
Yeah, he demean guy.
You tell me if you think her story might be falling apart a little bit.
No, in fact, when he made me get out of the car, you know, I tried to get my children.
I was, you know, just beg them, and please let me take him.
And he said, no, he didn't have time because they weren't.
in car seats and he was going to take time
for making it out of the car seat.
They're negotiating how long
he was in picking with a car jacket?
He's like, listen, I'm late for a movie.
I can't go talk to you a screen
somewhere.
I'm going to miss the previews
if I don't make it in time.
I'm in a serious rush.
I have to take your two stupid kids with me.
Can you imagine this negotiation going?
Well, can I just have my kids though?
I don't know.
I'm kind of in a hurry.
I know, but it's not that long.
They're both in car seats.
That's going to take too long.
No, seriously.
I'm actually really good at it.
I can't.
He just took off.
But he had a gun, and my big thing is they were screaming, hollering, and crying.
And I'm just scared that he just lost his patience or something, you know.
I don't know.
All I'm doing is just praying and just keeping my faith that they're going to be okay.
That they're not going to surface.
She does get hotter.
after her kids are dead. Do you notice that?
Yeah.
Yeah. Most women do.
Carl, watch this guy be a cuck.
Okay.
Another TV interview.
I do understand why they're having to do what they're doing.
I'm all they have.
Right now, they have not been able to rule anyone out.
I don't think I'm any more of a suspect than anyone in this case right now.
It's very painful to know that anyone would think that either of us had anything to do with this
seduction of our children.
But me and my wife
know the truth.
Well, your wife knows the truth, stupid.
You don't know anything.
I want to point out, she's trying out
all different looks. Every one of these things, she's
trying out a different look. This one I like the best, I think.
I don't know. I liked the one, I liked this
look. Yeah, yeah, it's not bad. I like the glasses, though.
Yeah. So, Carl,
after... Was she ever a stripper?
I don't know. We'll find out.
You know,
the sad thing about this was,
was she stuck to this story for days and days.
Of course.
Failed two polygraphs, well still sticking to the story.
So everybody, you know, a few days into this, realize she's fucking lying.
And she wastes everybody's time for days and days and days.
Until fucking David gets in a room with her and says, what the fuck happened to our kids?
And she finally confesses and tells them where to go find their two kids.
Oh, God, why would you do that?
Yeah.
It's a horrible idea.
She led the authorities to the lake, drivers, recover.
the car with the boys still strapped in their
car seats. Autopsies confirmed
drowning. The boys were buried on November 5th
1999. Her trial
began in July. Prosecutors
argued premeditated murder
to remove obstacles to a relationship with
Finley. The defense cited mental
illness and a failed suicide attempt again.
The jury
convicted her on two counts of murder
and recommended life in prison.
Unfortunately, Carl, she received two
concurrent life sentences with parole
eligibility. Now,
as you know can you tell me that she's a free woman right now and know what her number is she's still in prison
thank god but here's a fun thing here's a fun fact this gal right here's a fun fact this gal right here
as she's in prison like as she goes there first she goes to camille griffon graham correctional
institution then they transferred at a leith correctional institution in the year 2000 after two guards were
charged with having sex with her nice so she's fucking the guards she's horny and in 2002 she gave birth
to a son in prison oh god she's bad at this
Yeah. That child was placed with a family. In 2015, she was disciplined for possessing meth in prison.
Oh, she's a methad now. Yeah. That's fun.
In October, 2024, she was cited for an authorized contact with a documentary filmmaker and accepting money for interviews, which is against the rules when you're a felon.
On November 20th, 20, 24 at the age of 53, she appeared by video before the South Carolina Parole Board expressed remorse.
And Carl, I have good news. I have some good news from her if I could find.
it. I know I have good news from her, Carl.
I may have fucked up my clip.
Oh, here it is. Here it is. Here it is.
I am a Christian and God is a big part of my life and I know he has forgiven me.
Oh, good. God forgave her. God forgave her, Carl.
That's good. Well, also, God needs cute little kids in heaven. So that's probably they're
calling anyway. She was denied parole, Carl. And she's eligible again in 2020.
That is my creep
The creepiest housewife
The bitch who made a fool of her husband
Murdered her own children
And ruined their lives forever
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Excelsior true believers
You know I want to celebrate Super Chat
Monday real quick
Because people are been celebrating that
And I appreciate it
But also because it's something I just saw it roll by
But first, Eb Nye.
Creepiest toy collector is a future topic.
Check out if my Stuccio sneezing video for giggles, Glasgow represent.
Oh, all right, yeah.
Email that to me if I, because I don't know if I'll remember or find it.
Yeah, please do.
And a creepiest toy collector, I nominate myself.
Exactly.
Labar Mystic, thanks for the Fiverr.
Get super tip to get around this stupid sensor.
Cry baby complaining about tape needs.
Next consequence gets tape needs on top of consequence.
Yes, we do need to get a super tip.
Let's make that happen.
Oh, tape nips, I think is what he was going for.
Got it.
Rock Orby, 2002, thanks for the five of that woman cheated on her hubby because she wanted to win Dixie.
Am I right?
Come on.
That's it.
Come on.
You got a job here, sir.
Joseph Hamas, thanks for the 499.
He's been in the news lately.
Vinny, this was national news.
What's next?
O.J's creepiest athlete.
Carl brought OJ.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I just want to say to Mr. Hamas.
Thank you.
Yes, this is a story that everyone's heard a million times.
Just rehashed again by Vinnie poorly.
Try hard or do better.
Your lady was a hero.
You brought a hero.
Oh, so you can't defend yourself right now.
You have to go after me.
You should be ashamed.
All right.
You should be ashamed of what you did today.
All right.
All right, Carl, that is my creep.
Don't forget to vote this week.
Let's kick it over for Carl's cop cam.
Let's go.
I can't wait to see Carl's Cockham.
Fight with the cops for no reason.
Will you please show me Carl's Cockham?
Lose all your rights.
Ruin your life.
All right, Carl.
Anytime.
Oh, I'm sorry, buddy.
I don't know why I thought that was your.
segment to set up
so I have a cop kid
came in from Boner Guy
okay
I don't know why I thought that
a boner guy sent in
a video for us
and what happens is
so
there's a 13 year old kid
going to school
he's in sixth grade
all right
and apparently
his stepmother Maria
has this app on her phone
where she monitors his activity
on his phone
and she notices that there's
like these text messages going back and forth between the 13-year-old and his 27-year-old
teacher, Brittany Zamora.
Brittany!
Brittany!
The sixth grade teacher.
Should I pull up the picture of her?
Yeah, go for it.
Getting some flirty texts going.
Hi, Brittany.
Hi, Brittany.
Show another photo over.
Brittany, too.
Yeah.
All right, so she can clean up well.
She's cute girl.
She looks like a victim of jokes.
gas in this. No, no, no, no. Come on, you would. You would. So what happens is they see that there's
this flirtation thing going on. They report to the principal. And so the principal then puts
Brittany on administrative leave. So Brittany finds out that the dad ran it on her and decides to call him up
and plead with him not to press charges or make this a big messy ordeal. Maybe we can work this
thing out and that's where we're going to pick up my clip number one he the father recorded
the phone call he received from brittany oh no yeah what type of perverted person are you i
want to know right now you are a fucking monster you are a child do you understand me um
no why do you see i'm a lot smarter than you i'm so much smarter than you you do not
understand how much smarter than you i am i got you i want you to know that now i got you
do me a favor do not call this number back again the next time you'll hear from me will be in
court i am coming for you okay yeah you have a wonderful evening okay you stupid
whoa can can you explain to me can we meet you know to talk about this
if there's something we can settle out you know outside oh yeah
Oh, yeah, that's what we can do so I can give you a chance to do it to some other kid.
Yeah, that's exactly what we're going to do.
That's exactly, no.
Mrs. Amora, do me a favor?
Do not call me back again.
Okay.
Dad's pissed.
All right.
Dan, obviously, lost his virginity in college.
He could clearly get some good sex out of this woman at this point.
She's basically offering, like, what can we do?
What kind of deal can we make?
Well, maybe, maybe not, because then she puts her husband on the phone.
We're going to meet Daniel.
husband of this woman. This has been a very cuck-focused show today. And Daniel's going to try to
plead with the father. Hey, man. Don't say amen to me. You got a monster. If I was you, you stupid
motherfucker, I'd leave her. Man, listen. No, listen to me, you stupid motherfucker. I'll cave. You're
stupid, hey. Do you want to... I love it for my hand drunk. You're a stupid motherfucker. You know
that. You dumb motherfucker. You dumb motherfucker. Think about... I mean, God
I'm a priest's forgiveness, man.
I'm a priest of forgiveness and I put my hands around your throat, you stupid motherfuckers.
I understand your kiss, man.
No, you don't get shit, you dumb fucking bitch.
Listen to me.
I am not going to settle outside of court.
There's not enough money you can possibly ask and offer me to settle this.
You know what?
This is the wrong dad.
However, when you find out that the student that you're banging's dad has like
knuckle tattoos?
Yeah.
Yeah.
you've got to be careful.
Also, I will say if he is trying to negotiate for a settlement, that's a good place to start.
There isn't enough money in the world for me to, all right, how about $30,000?
It's going to have to be more than that for sure.
Well, I'm listening.
Yes.
So apparently, the dad sees this as an opportunity to tell Daniel, the husband.
By the way, you probably don't even know the whole story of what's going on.
I guarantee you he doesn't.
Your woman is a monster.
Hey, you want me to tell you the whole
story? She had another
13 year old in there watching
the whole fucking thing.
She's a monster.
Okay. So we're going to find out
some crazy shit about... What a poor...
Oh my God. About this woman. I always
feel bad. This happens to these stories
all the time when we did the Hot for Teacher special
on Patreon a couple months ago. Yep.
There's always this, the poor fucking ugly
kid in the class who's going to be the lookout.
Yes. And Boner guy's pissed at you, by the way.
for what he said he sent this to you before our hot for teacher episode and that you did not include this woman in our hot for teacher top 10 well there's going to be a part two we're going to do another one you listen you guys don't try to get a boner guy's good side man he's voting for carol i understand patron dot com slash the creep i understand boner guy i appreciate you i want you to know that but i will also say i appreciate our our producer alex who has flooded my inbox with pictures of these teachers that fucked to their students i have enough to do
Three more episodes.
Oh, well, that's exciting.
I like doing that.
So I can't use all of them at once, is the point.
All right, so then Daniel pleads with the father not to press charges.
Obviously, you can tell the dad ain't having it.
Not going to happen.
So now, fast forward, we get to hear from the 13-year-old, the kid who's banging the teacher.
Oh, God.
From his best friend.
And then they were making babies in the closet.
And then the baby popped out.
The baby looked at me.
People started, like, saying rumors, but that out there are actually true, obviously.
One girl was saying, like, a rumor about how he got more pregnant.
And there's just all the rumors about, like, how, like, they're so close to each other, how, like, oh, they might be dating.
When the rumors got out of hand, the principal paid a visit to the class.
And then Mr. Dickie came, he's the principal, Mr. Dickie, saying, I was talking to us.
saying, yeah, she like stop these rumors and like talking about how can you like solve this
situation by like telling a principal, just solving it by teacher and just talking to them.
So this is hilarious because everyone in the class.
Yeah, the teacher's name is Mr. Dickie.
That's the principal.
Yeah.
So everyone in class knows that a sixth grade class knows these two are fucking.
And so all we are doing is talking about it.
So finally the prisoners are coming in and go, guys, stop spreading these crazy rumors that somehow this kid is fucking the teacher.
We all know that's not true.
It's not what goes out of this sixth grade class.
So stop it all of you.
Best principal ever.
Right.
So then dad, by the way, should you be 13 and 6th grade?
Because this is an 11-year-old.
That makes more sense to me.
This kid might be a slow.
Anyway, so dad's got an idea on how to collect the evidence he needs to lock this woman up.
The way we actually come from.
told him, my son, you're going to text
it. I'm sorry, use this language
you guys want the truth.
And I said, you're going to trap her.
You're going to make her tell me
anything through these messages, and that's
one that has anything you needed.
Okay.
I can show you right now what the messages say,
if any of you guys have the stomach to freaking read it.
I can tell you some of the things that were
written and listed it.
She wrote things like,
you get sexier to me
every day.
This is what she's texting
a 13 year old.
Well, he's growing up.
Yeah, he's getting sexy.
And she says,
I want you every day
with no time limit.
Apparently,
he's been staying after class
to help with the talent show
and that only lasts so long.
Sure.
She's like trying to go for a marathon
fuck session,
as we call it.
Right.
Here on the creep on.
You know, those 13-year-olds.
Yep.
They go forever.
Well, they don't go forever,
but they can go a bunch of times,
I bet.
I bet they get a few sessions
in a row.
That's probably accurate.
So listen to one of the ways this woman got caught that is very funny by clip six.
Principal Dickie called the officers again to report that the substitute teacher appointed for Britney's class had discovered some notes in a cupboard that Brittany and the victim had written to each other.
With more distressing details revealed in these notes, police execute a search warrant issued on Britney's house and vehicle.
During this search, Daniel once again tries to defend his wife.
okay this woman's such an idiot she's leaving evidence that she's fucking a kid in class
all over the place everywhere she goes there's more evidence there's notes and things going
around what was really disturbing is how after they fuck she would take the condom and just
slap it onto the blackboard and leave it up there right it was just out of the blackboard
trying to get caught lady what are you doing there's a bunch of them it's horrible yeah she would
she would take a slurp out of it first but still so the the husband here is such a cuck
listen to this question from the officer who's going to ask you guys don't have any kids right listen to this response
I don't know kids right I'm sorry I wish now now what I do you wish you had kids now also I can have you know some I don't know all of what's going to happen right here you know so let's have a little more pieces of her oh fucking so he's like oh she's going to get locked away it'd be great if I had you know a memento or something to remember her by what the fuck is that
That's wild.
Just keep the note she left the kid around if you really want to remember.
There you go.
Yeah, go through and read that again.
All right.
So we're going to find out that not only are these two falk in,
but she's figured out ways to give them handies during class.
Get the fact.
I listen to this.
Best teacher ever.
She would be like, okay, class time for seeing it and get your snacks out and, like, go find a place to sit down.
And then I would, I wouldn't really never bring a snack.
I would just, like, go up there.
And I would press play.
And I would, like, put my hand and go back and go.
She was behind a chair and then she'll like stand behind me.
The witness elaborates further that Brittany often organized viewings of a daily news program for students called CNN10
and the deplorable acts that really transpired during these sessions.
When we're watching CNN 10, everyone watches CNN 10 and then she had a desk and then this is
screen everyone looks that way so more said like like to come over here so we can have cover
so no one can see is there a time that um did you ever look of course look no because they
tell me like not to look okay so that happened one time or more than one time more than one time
like every day like at 240 would you say in 10 so you imagine how fun school would be if you know that a two
every day you're going to get a hand job from the teacher.
I was doing it all wrong. I was always looking forward to
420. Right. And I messed like 240.
Is the good time. That's the hand job
number. Oh, we should start that.
240, baby. All right. Can we get
Danny to go along with it? Probably.
All right. Don't...
Hey, tell your husband
you have to go to work at the cleaning factory
at 240 every day. Wink, wink.
If you know what I mean, it's a cleaning factory.
You call it a cleaning factory?
Yeah, why not? That's my
bullshit. What do you guys create this factory?
cleaning. Yeah. Um, anyway, so, yeah, the teacher says, all right, we're going to watch CNN
10. We do this every day at 2.40. And everyone has to stare at the screen. You can't look over
at me. All right. No, looking over at me and your friend, your classmate, and what we're up to
over here, like, okay. He'll never come if you're all looking at him. Right. Yeah, he's, he's not like
that. Holy shit. So then there are fucking in the classroom when there's no students there. And
this is when we find out that there is a lookout. And where was everybody? They're all gone.
In a revelation that distresses everyone, the victim discloses that Brittany had been using the witness as a lookout.
Tell me what her dress looked like.
I can't remember that time.
But the second time, I remember it was black.
The second time?
Was that the time in a car?
Or do you mean?
No.
That was the first time of the time in the car.
And then, like, actually, I'm sorry, I missed it.
That was the third time.
And the first time of the time of the car, then it was a talent show, and the second one was
the second day of the talent show.
I got to say, if I'm 13 years old and I've had sex three times, I'm remembering each
of them.
I'm remembering every single.
Oh, yeah, what was that?
Where were we fucking of that time?
I guess that was in the car?
Yeah, I guess that was in the car.
I got to tell you, man, this cool.
This guy has a better story than John's Battle of the band's story at high school.
Oh, hell yeah.
This talent show is way cooler.
Are you kidding me?
This kid's fucking killing it over here.
Now, I'll tell you where this teacher screwed up.
Oh, can I guess?
Well, it's not really a good idea to ask for nudes from a 13-year-old and then receive them.
Did she ever ask you for pictures?
Or did you ever send her pictures?
Yeah, that's not good.
Okay.
So he's sending her dick pics.
So that's not a good thing for her.
We'll see what happens with that.
But first, so that 11-year-old kid who's like the victim, quote-unquote's friend.
So he...
No, that kid's the victim.
He didn't get a piece of it.
I agree with him.
But yeah, the 11-year-old lookout, apparently the teacher realizes, like, the more people who know about this thing, the better chance I'm going to get in trouble for it.
So we've got to keep this under wraps.
She tries to explain that.
Okay.
I told my friend, and then I told her that I told him.
And then she said, she was, like, mad for a little bit, but then, like, she got over it.
So how do you know she's mad?
Because she, like, that's messed up.
that's what she said
and she was like mad at me
but I didn't really hear
Ms. Amora
like found out that I knew
like a lot
about them
and then Ms. Amora said
what about if we get caught
like I can go to jail
and like
what about if
um
or like tell us anyone
we'll get in deep trouble
so this is the thing
is that this teacher's like
hey
we got to keep us on the wraps
I could get in a lot of trouble for doing this.
And you don't want to negotiate with an 11-year-old about you getting into trouble.
You're not a good place in your life if you're concerned about an 11-year-old possibly tattling on you.
Like an 11-year-old has no idea the gravity of a situation like this.
They're to negotiate with you for candy at 11 years old.
You could get a B-minus on a paper you thought you should have gotten an A-on and just be like,
this bitch is fucking a 13-year-old and she's got dickpicks on her phone.
You know what I mean?
Like it would take much to send this woman away.
And, of course, listen to this kid's thoughts on the matter.
My next clip.
Not a good person makes me sad and mad.
Mad because he's, like, a bad, like, influenced, bad person.
She deserves to be in jail.
It makes me sad because she was my sixth grade teacher.
Okay.
Shut up.
So this little kid.
Your mommy lectured you all the way to the police.
station. Yeah, this little kid who knows everything that's going on, you don't want tannling on
you, thinks you're a bad person who deserves to go to jail. Wow, you done fucked up.
Brittany, idiots. She's really bad at hiding this relationship she has. Yeah, I mean, she's jerking
him off in a room full of other children. That's a demented person. Yeah, I know. It's fucking
demented. So they arrest her. She actually leaves the house. They find her. They arrest her.
they bring her in for questioning
with the detective
and she immediately goes
I don't want to answer questions
so I have an attorney here
Okay smart
You don't have to do that
But then she starts talking
And my clip 13
This is an interesting question
Um
I'll be going home today
No
So what I mean do
Do these type of things
Have to be in the public
Um
They don't have to be in public
But
you've kind of been in the school industry
long enough to know that
when something happens at a school
you know letters end up having to go out
and people ask questions
hmm
well anybody speaking on
the typical like
conflict
don't tell if you didn't Google this already
Brittany
so she goes are people going to like make this a public thing
he's like yeah
you're a sixth grade teacher
fucking a 13 year old yes
definitely it'll be
the news.
You're even going to be on the creep off, Brittany.
Right, Brittany.
This is going to be good for you in your career as a creep.
You go places.
So then she goes, what's the typical consequence?
It's just like, I'm sure she Googled this.
I'm sure she knows.
The answer is you're going to go to jail or prison and your life is ruined.
You're going to drive to Gary Indiana.
Yes.
That's not what the consequence is, but it's much worse than that.
Oh, no.
Here's the final clip I have.
I am the best husband in the world.
Yes, you know.
What's that?
On July 12, 2019,
Zamora entered a guilty plea to a class two felony of sexual conduct with a minor,
a class three felony of attempted molestation of a child,
and a class five felony of public sexual indecency.
She was sentenced to 20 years in the Department of Corrections in Arizona State Prison.
She will be registered as a sex offender upon release
and be on probation for the rest of her life.
She also filed for divorce from Daniel while in jail.
What?
Jesus Christ.
This guy did nothing but try to help her out.
There was even a part where he's sending her messages while she's on the phone with the principal and telling her what to say.
Like, don't admit to anything.
Don't tell Dickie shit.
Right.
So just giving her all this information.
He was up until her getting arrested.
He's like, oh, my gosh, I just want to be with her.
I want to have kids with her.
And she divorces him.
I do have an update.
Okay.
She is working as a tutor.
In prison.
It's currently a tutor in prison.
Does that mean like she tells on other cellmates?
Probably fucks him.
I think that's what she thinks, tutor, I guess.
Anyway, Vinnie, I want to thank Boner Guy again for sending that in.
Brittany Zamora is a creep and featured on Carl's cop cam this week.
Thank you.
Boner Guy.
We appreciate you.
And I always appreciate when you call into the to WATP and leave voicemails telling people to vote.
I appreciate democracy, Boner Guy.
the creep off voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of syracuse i had so much fun
trick-or-treating in syracuse over the weekend now i don't have the stock up on razor blades
see you in syracuse didn't have a lot of voicemails this week but uh here we go vini i feel
you with the fucking food delivery thing except you know i have this with amazon drivers and it's not just
at my house. They fuck it up everywhere.
They fuck it up at the workplace, too.
Like, for the longest time, they were delivering to the wrong
fucking door, and they basically just throw the package right in front of the
door, and I had to keep making signs at every door until
they got to the right one to where I had to make another sign, say, go
inside, and then I had to make another fucking sign, put it on the shelf,
and still, they just throw it on the fucking ground, they're retarded.
I don't think any of them can read. That's, that's it.
That fucking don't come to school tomorrow.
You got it.
Carl, these app delivery people are a real fucking problem.
Yeah, but if you start putting signs up for delivery people, you're kind of in stuttering John territory, so I worry about that.
This is the opposite of stuttering John.
You should want them to show up and give you your stuff.
I think that what I saw to do is just put in a bunch of grubhub orders and wait.
Smart.
Just saying.
How do you know they haven't done that?
I think Dean Cain's probably on top of that.
That's probably all he's good for.
Right.
All right.
You got any voicemouse, Carl?
I don't.
Well, that was all we got then.
Great, because I have Point Davelpoint coming up at 4.
So we'll keep this thing moving.
But check that out on my channel.
We'll be talking stuttering John.
Absolutely.
Please check out Point Dabble Point today.
I believe it is time for a scum parade, Carl.
It's time for us to listen to the scum parade.
We start some murder drugs and jay walking.
You'll hear about a guy who fought his door and catch up our
the news this week, I want to hear the scum parade.
Where's the scum parade?
Where's the scum parade?
Oh, Carl, we got a fun one for you today.
Let's meet this fella.
This is to Shikundi Tati.
He's 44 years old.
And he was arrested at a Maryland Planet Fitness the other day.
Why you ask?
Because he came up with a foolproof plan to see some ditties.
Oh, nice.
He wore this fun get-up.
Oh, that lady?
No, that's a guy.
That's a guy?
I'm totally fooled by that.
That's a guy who, let me make sure you could see this.
We'll get a little close in the full body there.
Who was sneaking into the women's locker room.
I would have just held the door open for her.
Come on in.
Here you are, ma'am.
Yes.
And she was going around with her phone out, just filming people in the locker room.
Okay, that's only legal if you declare that you're trans.
Then it's okay.
But you can't just be a guy wearing a wig filming women changing.
She was caught, well, he was caught after one situation in a planet fitness where he would wear the clothes, go into the women's locker, take the pictures, ditch the clothes, and try to run out.
But someone caught him, called the police, and the police were able to catch him before he got away.
There's also concerns that he's been doing this in a lot of different places.
Was he running in high heels?
Is that why he couldn't get away from the police?
Probably.
Dumbies.
Zoinks!
Just took off.
There was a similar.
incident where a woman says she was in a gym locker room and someone came in and just started
taking pictures. So they think it might be this person as well. I saw it in there. It says the investigation
will focus on determining why he spent so much time in the locker room. It's because he wanted
photos of the hot ones. It's called curating. Oh, he went to a planet fitness for that, did you?
Yeah. It's going to take some time to find ones who are worth photographing. That would be why.
Yeah. You know, I used to go to Planet Fitness. Yeah. And all the women there are
kind of looked like me.
So I'm going to go ahead and say, probably not the best choice of gyms.
If you're going to be a pervert, spend the money.
Go to LA Fitness.
Spend the money.
That's where the hotties are.
Yep.
All right.
Let's meet our next creep.
Now, I actually kind of feel for this guy.
Oh.
I kind of side with him.
You see, this is Mr. Charles J. Leggett, and he's been found guilty on one count of first
degree intentional murder with a dangerous weapon and one count of being a felon in possession
of a firearm after the slain of 26-year-old Jamil Owies.
Now, here's the problem.
This guy ordered a pizza, Mr. Legat, from Hunt Brothers Pizza.
Well, that's the problem.
Hunt Brothers Pizza is fucking garbage.
It's cardboard with ketchup on it and a little bit of cheese.
Well, you've had this before?
Dude, when you down south, there's not a lot of places to get good pizza.
And when I was stuck in this one town, I forget where it was.
It was port something in Florida is where my hotel was.
There was nothing around to get food except for a Hunt Brothers Pizza.
It was the worst I've ever had.
Is it a chain pizza place?
It's also in a liquor store?
I have seen it in liquor stores.
I've seen it at gas stations.
Really?
Yes, it's not good.
I did not know that.
I've just figured it was the weirdest fucking store pizza and liquor.
Yeah.
This is the thing, huh?
Noah Halston.
They sell Hunt Brothers Pizza in gas stations.
The place I went to was next to a gas station, but it wasn't the gas station.
so either way
he goes in there he orders his pizza
and he notices that this guy
who's preparing it's not wearing gloves
we don't have to wear gloves when you're making the pizza
really you don't think so
when you're touching people's ingredients and shit
you don't want to wear the oven
while you're making the pizza you don't have to have gloves on
you see that all the time they're whipping the dough up in the air
and shit like that it's not going to go in the oven
everything gets cooked off charles was not happy about that
okay he demanded that this motherfucker put some gloves on
and remake his food because it's a germophobe i get it they start arguing about this and uh that's
when he pulled out a gun and shot the guy in the chest well he's gonna win that argument
um he mr ohies was dead on the scene and unfortunately he had just had a baby about three weeks
before that oh i guess this crazy person didn't take into account that he's a a father now of the
newborn he'd be like oh shit i don't that well my bad if i had known that there's video of all of it
um they were definitely arguing there was no sound but it just shows this guy clearly pulling out
his gun and shooting him in the chest over uh the fucking pizza yeah and listen if you fuck with
people's food if you're making people's food and they're not comfortable with the way you did it
just fucking remake it who cares it's hunt brother's pizza yeah but sometimes the principle of it
like i was saying if i'm laying pieces of pepperoni down before i throw it in the oven it doesn't
matter i don't wear your fucking gloves with your touch of people's food you worked at a
pizza restaurant
for a while. Yeah. You were that. Did you
use gloves when you're putting the pickles on the pizza?
You're God damn fucking right. All right. I mean, you don't have to. That's all I'm
saying. I wouldn't touch a pickle like that. Are you kidding me? You're afraid of
pickles, aren't you? I'm not afraid of them. I think you're disgusting. I think of
pickle phobia. There's a new show on HBO. Welcome to Dairy. It's
based on the It movies. It's like a prequel to It's in the 60s. And one of the main
character's dad died in a pickle factory.
Jesus Christ.
And the joke is that parts of them ended up in pickles.
And in the second episode, there is a pickle monster.
I had to leave the room.
Vinny, I'm sorry, man.
There's a literal pickle monster.
I didn't realize.
There's pickles everywhere.
This girl's like in a fucking thing of like pickles that's like this deep.
I was so skewed out disgusted.
If you ever need to call me, man, I'm here for you.
All right?
I don't care what I'm doing.
I'll drop everything.
I need a drink of water.
I'll drop everything.
If that happens to you again, man, call me.
I don't want to see this pickle monster.
I'll talk you off the ledge, buddy.
Either way, that guy's dead.
This guy's getting life in prison.
It's funny, too, because this guy confessed everything he did to try to get away with it.
So he, like, got out of there, took all his clothes off, threw them away, went home, didn't tell anyone what he did.
And then when the controversy about it, he's like, yeah, so what I did is I jumped out of there, took all my clothes off, threw them away, didn't tell anyone what I did.
Jesus Christ.
What was the point of doing any of that, that?
Yeah.
And did you get the pizza?
You're just going to confess to it all?
oh my god could you imagine that someone handles his food without gloves out in jail
I'd hit to work on the cafeteria staff there I like to think he learned his lesson
I doubt it he's like I want this argument before motherfucker
all right let's meet our next creeps Carl
this is William Clark he's 54 years old and he's down in Tallahassee Florida
okay now he has a roommate and him and his roommate are having some problems
yeah you see the roommate's letting people come to the house all the time and hang out
he's letting people come over there and use the bathroom and take showers and shit that i didn't like
when i got to that detail and i'm like yeah i don't want my roommate wedding guys come in and use the
shower it's yeah he was concerned that the place was becoming like a drug house because this guy's
just letting people in all the time okay so they get into a little bit of a fight and uh the roommate
was recording clark with the cell phone at the time of this incident which started with clark
slowly walking over to the man with a pan of grease that he was using to fry ribs okay you
You don't fry ribs.
Correct.
You smoke ribs.
Correct.
No one's ever said.
You know how ribs are really good?
Deep fry.
Can you deep fry these for me?
Fuck you.
That's not how you fucking prepare ribs, you idiot.
Yeah.
So on the tape, Mr. Clark Lixon says, you got this?
The victim apparently asked, right before Clark allegedly throws the crease from the hot pan directly onto the man's face.
Oh, boy.
Just like your victim.
In your story, this was a napalm.
This was just hot friar grease.
I got to say, doing that in your house is pretty.
dumb because cleanup's going to be a bitch for that dude it's the grease was all over the place yeah that's
not that's not a smart move man i know i realize you're mad at your roommate and he's letting people
use the shower i get that part i have actual audio of um him throwing the grease at him and then
them slipping all over the place oh wow they were slipping on hot grease many yes they were while it
dried and he was trying to get out get away cooled off and then they still slip it all over it
they did find grease all over the house by the way yeah so this guy is in the hallway in a place
where he couldn't escape.
He was like up against a wall.
He threw the grease on him.
Third degree burns over a quarter of his body.
The roommate was allegedly in a location of the apartment.
He had no mode of retreat.
They found the grease all over the place.
But according to Clark, he and the victim had an ongoing dispute.
So it's cool.
Clark first stated during questioning that he threw grease on the victim
because he stated, started recording and yelling that he was not leaving.
Clark several minutes later then said the victim stood up in a threatening manner and lunged at him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Clark was allegedly unable to articulate what made the roommate's actions threatening and said that he held the pan of hot grease to use it as a weapon.
By the way, in the video, fun fact, they said, the pan after he threw the grease, you could see the steam from the heat.
Oh, yeah.
Hot the pan in the video.
The grease is very hot.
It's very hot grease.
The roommate ran from the apartment after being attacked, and the police were called.
He was transported by emergency helicopter to a local hospital and was said to be undergoing treatment in the ICU burn unit.
Did you imagine the trauma you'd have
Every time you saw a helicopter after that
Just reminds you of getting your face burned off
By scolding hot grease
I don't like looking at helicopters
You just hear the noise like
Dude your face just feels like it's melting all over again
The whole Vietnam flashback
Dude this guy his roommate looks like a melted candle
For the rest of his life now
Fuck this guy
He's granted a $10,000 bond in order to stay away from the victim
Along with wearing a GPS monitoring device
And he's been ordered to smoke
the ribs. Never fry ribs asshole. Dude. This last story, I got to tell you, the creep is the state of
California. I agree. I'm glad we're on the same page on this one. That's why I brought this story.
This really upset me, Carl. Interesting. Jonathan M. Fay, 54-year-old principal, principal, right? He's principal
in Amador Valley High School in Pleasanton, California. He was fired this past February after the district
investigation, substantiated allegations that he used a Grindr account to solicit current and
former students for secret sexual encounters. Why would anyone give a fuck if he's trying to
fuck former students on Grindr? Correct. What would that to do with anything? More of the
issue is the current one. Okay. The case began in August 2024 when a graduate from the previous
year reported receiving a message from a grinder profile called Eyes emoji, which he believed
belonged to Fay. The account expressed interest in a discreet hookup and allowed the former student
on Instagram and then the teacher followed the former student on Instagram the next day
and action the student found suspicious.
Screenshots showed the user trading personal details while insisting on secrecy.
A second complaint came from a current student who told investigators that that same account
sought a quote secret romantic and sexual relationship and called him hella hot.
A third former student reported seeing Faye's phone opened a grinder while he was chaperoning
a school event.
Okay.
So this is an interesting detail right here.
here. Yeah. So a current student claims that he was contacted by the principal, which means the
current student is on Grindr. Now, many times have changed. But when I was going to high school,
that would be embarrassing. People found out you were using Grindr, if you had that app on your
phone and people could contact you through that. Carl thought it was a skateboard app. That's his
story and he's sticking to it. Hell yeah, man. I got Thrasher magazine. I thought it was about skateboarding
guys. Grindr app. Hell yeah. Um, dude, agreed. But it's 2020.
Faye denied owning the account, claiming identity theft, and filed a police report after he started getting questioned.
I better go to the police and tell him somebody else did this quick.
So he does.
He files this, the police investigate it, make no arrest, refer the matter back to the district.
A neutral third-party investigator concluded there was probable cause to believe Faye had engaged in sexual solicitation of students.
So they put him on leave shortly after the first report.
he then appeals his termination to an administrative law judge in late 2025.
Then the state paid him $254,000.
Here's my question for you, Benny.
Would you try to fuck a high school boy for a quarter of a million dollars?
No.
Try to fuck for a quarter of a million dollars.
I would.
No high school kids fucking me.
I got nothing to lose on this one.
I'm just sending messages saying, hey, you're hot.
Let's have secret sex.
I get $254,000.
for that? It seems like a pretty good deal.
Un-fucking real.
District officials stated they acted promptly
and settled to avoid forcing
students and staff to testify in a hearing.
Board President Justin
Brown, I hope it's our Justin Brown.
The most retarded board
in the history of boards.
Confirmed a report would be sent to the California
Commission of Teacher Credentialing,
which will investigate potential revocation
of face teaching license.
The findings were made on file for five years and be
available for future employers. Yeah, he's not going to get
job again. Yeah, no civil lawsuits have been publicly filed against Faye as of the settlement.
The case emerged amid a wave of sexual misconduct claims against California's school districts.
So they're just writing checks and everybody's filing complaints.
Yep. You fucking idiots. So I'm going to throw this out there, Benny. I think it's very
possible that this guy's telling the truth and that it's not his grinder account. Maybe. Because as a
principal of a high school, you're a lot of people who want to fuck with you. You know, when they get
out of school, they're like, fuck principal, Faye or whatever his name is.
I am going to fuck him up.
I'm going to start a grinder account,
start hitting on all the gay students in school.
So I'm with you on that.
But my issue is they did an investigation
and they said they found probable cause.
Yeah, but who did an investigation?
The school board.
They said a third party.
They said a third party investigator.
That's what I mean.
The police have no charges.
They're just like, whatever.
There's nothing going on here.
But they got to,
if there isn't anything going on there,
why are they just writing checks?
That guy doesn't look like a guy wants to fuck the students, though.
Certainly does.
Yeah.
That little elephant thing he has back there is Ben in a kid's butt.
Oh, that's fun.
That's a fun fact.
Yeah, I learned that.
I didn't learn that.
The leg or the trunk?
The trunk.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah, the trunk would be more interesting to get up there.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Do you learn that in your Thrasher magazines?
No.
Okay.
Transworld.
Tuky's unpaid staff wants to know where you find your twinks, Carl.
Right.
That's what I'm talking about.
So I just found this whole story fucked up.
The fact that they're paying out this kind of money
For people who very clearly
There's something weird going on
Hey Vinnie
You know who has to pay that money?
Us
California taxpayers
And you know what they deserve
To lose all of their fucking money
Because they keep voting in idiots
Who just want to waste all their fucking money
So fuck them
If you pay taxes in California
You're fucking idiot
You deserve have your money stolen
Take that dick
Yeah take that dick master said
All right folks
And that is this week's scum parade.
Let's get caught up on Super Chats because I got to go.
I know you do, buddy.
I got places to be, which is my studio.
Sorcercery Gypsy says, I think Carl win for sure.
Hell yeah.
Bullshit.
That gets it.
Syc Labs.
Happy Super Chat Monday.
Watch Levyverse at 3 p.m.
Eastern.
All right, Syclax.
Sike does really good work.
Thank you, buddy.
Appreciate that.
Thanks for joining us.
Lyc.
Labyrinth, thanks for the two bucks.
Brittany's second pick looks like an off-brand Barbie.
Yeah.
Is she a 10?
No.
She's not a 10.
but you're 13 years old you're in sixth grade still for some reason you'd be pretty excited to fuck her
she looks like skipper okay now we're just gonna get insulting we are everybody thank you so much
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Last super chat we got in today, it's from, how do you say this name, Carl?
I think it's L-I, L-I, L-I, L-I, so I go lo-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l.
Hi, Carl, hi, Vinny.
What's your favorite food each?
Go, Carl.
Tacos.
Pizza.
Thank you, good night, everybody.
It's nice to be important.
It's more important to be nice.
Gia.
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