The Creep Off - Episode 313: See you in St. Louis!

Episode Date: May 11, 2026

This week, Karl & Vinnie head to the Gateway City to answer one important question: Who is the Biggest Creep in St. Louis? Plus, a brand-new edition of Karl’s Cop Cam asks what happens ...when a man’s coworker is caught red-handed with his 14-year-old daughter. And in the Scum Parade, we meet a strict grandmother, an amateur chef, and learn exactly how old you need to be to get a tattoo.Don’t forget to vote for who brought the biggest creep at patreon.com/thecreepoff.  Check out this week’s scum parade stories here: Kentucky mom allegedly gave 22-month-old son a tattoo because he 'wanted' oneWoman stabs her own hairdresser after 'getting bad haircut' | News World | Metro NewsGrandma made 4-year-old drink fatal dose of whiskey: DASanta Barbara man tortured, cooked his dog 'Coco' in front of familyThe score is currently Vinnie 3 - Karl 2 – Guest 4 Want more of the madness? Support the show on Patreon, Supercast to snag exclusive merch and get an extra bonus episode every week!Don’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108You can follow our Results girl Danni on Instagram @Danni_DesolationYou can follow our Keeper of the Consequences Mahalia @mahellllyeah

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Attention parents, what you'll buy to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't any of these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation. Horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the guns because I'm alive, and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo. Cut of followization.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Ola creepos, welcome to another episode of your favorite true crime podcast. The show about creeps by creeps for you creeps. I'm your host. My name is Vinnie and joining me today in studio as always. My rival, my nemesis, and my pal. It's hot. Carl. What is happening, Vinnie Paulino?
Starting point is 00:01:09 It's the show we don't always agree with each other or get along. Wait, you don't have any of those. This is the show that I do where I sometimes disagree with my co-host. Oh, well. It's an honor. It's an honor to know that I'm the only one you can't agree with 100% of the time. Now, today's show is going to be fun. We did a bonus on Friday, and we were talking about Carl's casual meth use
Starting point is 00:01:33 and how he is the spokesperson for meth. And I asked you how a weekend on meth is, and you said, you know, it always ends in St. Louis. I did say that. So today, we are going to find out who the biggest creep is in St. Louis. I'm very excited to do that. We got a scum parade coming up. We're going to find out what age you're actually allowed to tattoo your children at. Okay, that'll be good to know.
Starting point is 00:01:56 We're going to learn about that. And I think we got a cop cam too, right, Carl? We do have a cop cam as well. And, of course, this show is a contest. Each week, Minnie and I bring who we think is the biggest creep in a certain category. Today being St. Louis, you'll hear us present our creeps. Then you'll go to patreon.com slash the creep off and vote for who you thought was the bigger creep. We have our results, girl.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Tally those votes up. Let us know who won. That person gets a point. Once one of us gets to five points, the other person is a loser. and has to spin the dreaded wheel of consequences. Now, Carl, last week, we celebrated Cinco de Mayo, and we did who was the biggest creep in Mexico. Yes, we did.
Starting point is 00:02:35 My creep was the hamburger. Yeah, my creep was a guy who just shot people in the face and robbed them for no reason. Well, it's not no reason. Well, I mean, pesos. He robbed them. Yeah. He took the pesos.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Right. Didn't have to shoot him in the face. It's the opposite of no reason. Here to give us the result is Danny. Danny, you look beautiful. Did you have a nice mother's day? I sure did. It was pretty okay.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You're still glowing. You look fantastic. Well, thank you. Pretty okay. Yeah, you know, I didn't do a whole lot, but it was fun. Still. Sounds depressing. I guess.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Way to bring the mood down. I don't know. There's like pretty all right. It sounds like your kids didn't even try. They probably burnt the bacon, but she doesn't want to like. be upset with her about it i don't know i'd yell at them i would teach them to be better to their mom i mean they're super sweet and told me you know happy mother's day and everything it's just my fiance was at work all day and just kind of stuck home with the kids and then i don't know there wasn't a lot
Starting point is 00:03:47 to do yesterday how depressing what a sad mother's day that's so mean it wasn't sad it was just a little a little a little bit a little bit more kids are I get it. Shouldn't they have taken care of you? Shouldn't they have all gone out of the way to do something like for you? That would be something. But, you know, with a toddler, it's like, there's so much. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:04:14 You know, I'm nominating Danny's kids this week is the biggest creeps. And I'm taking Chrissy Mayer. So let's see who wins. Damn it. Good luck. All right. Danny, sorry for busting your chops and sandbagging you about Mother's Day. Will you please tell us who won.
Starting point is 00:04:30 last week's episode. Of course I will. We had Big Biggest creep in Mexico and we have 52% of the vote. Go to Vinnie. Exaltless and True cleaners.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah, I think it's because you sabotaged me with not having any audio on my amazing AI video. We played it with the audio. Your shitty AI video. I mean, you should have been ashamed for that. Thank you for voting for Carl. You shouldn't be allowed to drink water for a year for that.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And I do a lot of shit on AI. Yours was the worst. But thank you, Danny, for the good news. You know what? I hope next Mother's Day is a good one for you. Like next year, I hope they shape up and get it right. And we've shamed them sufficiently for you. I know.
Starting point is 00:05:29 They didn't even do anything at school, like, to make cute stuff or anything. Oh, now the truth is coming out. No, handmade cards or anything like that? No. Isn't that silly? Silly? It's downright disrespectful. It really is.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Maybe they were making stuff for other people's moms. What do they do for Teacher Appreciation Day? Nothing. Not kicking him in the cunt that day. Good. All right. Say happy teacher appreciation day, I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I'm just saying they probably don't forget their holidays, but they forget about. the moms it's unbelievable. All right. Danny, where can everybody find you? I'm on Instagram at Danny Desolations. Come say hi, please.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I have no friends, so. Aw. She's so lonely. Keep Danny company over there. Her fiance wasn't even around on Mother's Day. Oh, my God. Now I'm getting depressed. Go see Danny.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I'm stuck at home constantly. Come say hi to me. All right. Go see Danny. Bye, Danny. She's so lonely. That's sad. And those kids are jerks. Mm-hmm. Each one of them, a little jerk in their own right.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Even that baby. Wow, Vinny, you really got it in for Danny today. Being a real prick about her family. No, I just feel like she deserves better. That's such a beautiful, happy Mother's Day. You go right into one of these fucking brats doing, these assholes. You probably didn't raise him right. You're the problem.
Starting point is 00:06:54 You really went off on her just now. You know, I just wanted to make sure she knew what was up. Carl, I'm up right now. I'm witty this round three to two. Rochi says, join the devil. We all have no friends. That's true. You're in good company, Danny.
Starting point is 00:07:09 You know what? Last Adler Standing says, time for Danny to forget those kids' birthdays. Yep. I think that's really the only right solution to this. All right, Carl, let's head out to Missouri. You want to ring that bell? Yeah, and I want to remind people that we are celebrating a holiday today. It is Super Chat Monday.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Oh, my gosh, Carl, I just looked at this. And, man, we got a lot of action going. on. Billy Mitchell 151 became a new YouTube member. Thank you, Billy. Chris Primer gifted five creepoff channel membership. Fuck, yeah. Thank you, Chris. That's incredible.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Kim Bowley's been a member for three months. She loves the show. And she gifted one who are these podcasts membership. She's awesome. Actually, two of them. Holy shit. Look at that. I want you to get on sauce at Vegas at Hackamania.
Starting point is 00:07:58 You know, for those of you who are members for the bonus content, I already decided what we're going to do on Friday. What's that, buddy? I am completely... Murder suicide. No, that's the finale of the show. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, we've still got another six months.
Starting point is 00:08:12 All right. I have some things I still need to get an order for the family. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. I'm appalled. I'm fucking appalled at this Michael Jackson movie, Carl. Yeah. I'm absolutely floored that it is setting records. Someone in my office,
Starting point is 00:08:32 It's hard youngman Saw it twice What? Yeah He liked it that much You didn't go back and see it again Twice Really?
Starting point is 00:08:40 And I said to him So like what do they do when they get to you know The stuff And he goes oh no The movie ends in 1988 Yep Right before the bad tour And so coming up this Friday
Starting point is 00:08:51 On the creep off Michael two Nice The rest of the story Excellent I have before to that To the creep off We're going to cover some of stuff
Starting point is 00:09:01 There might even be a Michael 3. I don't know. But that asshole, everybody needs to remember what the fuck he was up to. So guys, come watch our show on Friday, the bonus show, but your parents aren't allowed. No adults. Yeah, that's right. Michael 2, whitewashed. That's what we're calling it.
Starting point is 00:09:22 All righty, ring the bell. Did we ring the bell? We didn't. Let's get started. I won, so I get to go first. And that means I get to introduce you to my creep, everybody. buddy. He's got a fun name. His name is Mori Travis. Okay. Now, he was born in 1965,
Starting point is 00:09:41 came from a pretty normal background. I was described as a polite guy. I used to mow the lawns in the neighborhood for extra cash. Neighbors liked him. He joined the Army Reserves. And then he enrolled at Morris Brown College in Atlanta. So he left St. Louis and went to Atlanta for roughly seven to eight months. It didn't work out for him over there, Carl. No? Yeah, he kind of got into the wrong crowd and became a real enthusiast of crack cocaine. Should have gone to a white college under that brown college. This thing on?
Starting point is 00:10:14 So crack cocaine, Carl. He flunked out of school pretty quick. Okay. And I had to go back. And to pay for drugs, he began robbing shoe stores in St. Louis for some reason. Weird. Yeah, like sneaker stores he would rob. And he was arrested and convicted in 1989 in sentenced to 15 years.
Starting point is 00:10:32 from prison, this fucking guy wrote a letter to the judge who sentenced him explaining how bad it is in prison and that I'm very sorry for what I did I know what I did was wrong. I was under the influence of these drugs. I've got myself clean. I want to think like just a suck up letter.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Sure. Smart. He ends up getting a letter from a congressman from writing one of these letters. He's paroled after three and a half years for armed robberies, a string of them. I mean, he's a sweetheart now. Now, the kind of people we want society.
Starting point is 00:11:05 By 1994, he's back living in his mom's house, this place right here. In a little suburb you may have heard of of St. Louis called Ferguson. I'm familiar with Ferguson. In St. Louis County, I want to make sure I double-checked that. You're fine. Don't want to hear any of your bullshit. I don't want to get Carled here. This is the same house that he grew up in, Carl.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Now, he took a job waiting tables, and he even got himself a little girlfriend named Felicia, who also liked to crack a lot. And he helped Felicia get off drugs, all while staying on them himself, which is pretty selfless, I say. Yeah, I mean, he wants the drugs probably, right? Probably. It sucks your girlfriend's doing all your drugs. You don't want to do crack anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll do the crack.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Come here. But you know what he did push her into, which I find really interesting and suspicious? A pit of acid? Nursing school. Ah. I wonder if she could get any drugs if she passes at nursing school. Yeah. I think he was thinking long game there.
Starting point is 00:12:00 but as he started using crack and she started using less of it, she realized how unattractive it is to be hanging out with the crackhead all the time. So she dumped him and moved out of this house in 2001. Now, even though they were together, he had kind of, and he was doing a lot of crack, he had another bad habit, Carl. What's that? He used to go to a place called The Stroll. It's a stretch on North Broadway in Baden neighborhood in St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Not a nice area. I believe that's where the folks in National Ampoon's vacation got trapped. Okay. Yeah, crack houses street prostitution. Roll them up, kids. Roll them up. And he was a big fan of the hooves. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And he loved to do crack with whores. That was his favorite thing. He'd pick up a whore and be like, hey, you want to do some crack? Take you back to my house. We'll have a good time. Don't knock it until you tried it. Well, these women were generally all drug addicts, and they would go, sure, man, let's go.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And they would go back to his mom's house that she owned, even though she wasn't living in. She was renting it to him at this point. Okay. And he would show these women his new hobby, which was amateur videography. You know, he would bring him back to the house. They'd bang. Is this Hunter Biden we're talking about? What's the name of your creep?
Starting point is 00:13:20 His name is Mori Travis Carole. Just checking. Yeah. So he would take the women down a flight of stairs through locked door into a, soundproof room that he built in his basement. Now, I guess what you would call in the center of the room was like a wooden support beam. I guess it's called a bondage post. Nice.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Let's say. He would use ropes, chades, handcuffs, shackles, duct tape, maskey tape, and a stun gun. He had a collection of women's shoes and wigs and a video camera permanently mounted on a tripod. Now, the early portions of these encounters were very pleasant before they were. we get down to the basement, Carl. Conversation, some crack. Sure. You know, pull on his dick a little bit.
Starting point is 00:14:03 A little consensual sex. And he would film all of it, though. Nice. Then as things start to change, he liked kind of rituals before things would get crazy. He'd make him dance while wearing white clothing. He would make them specifically wear white. And that he would make them put on these sunglasses that had the lenses blacked out. And that's when he would leave them down to the basement.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Surprise, you're attached to the post now. Okay. He'd tie them there with their legs restrained behind their backs, wrapped maskey tape around their faces and duct tape over their eyes. He'd beat them and use the stun gun on them repeatedly and would rape them, flip-flop them, sorry, kids. He made them state their names on camera and say their final words to people they loved. He made the women call him master and recite that they only existed for his pleasure.
Starting point is 00:14:51 He would berate them about their drug habits, their parenting of their lives, even though he was also a crackhead, which I had to say. would feel very condescending to be in that position. Yeah, I know what you're saying, but then again, it's like, obviously, I am my bad habit under control because I'm the one who can afford a prostitute. I'm the one who tied you up.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yes, I got all of these supplies myself. Fun fact, he filmed all of this. Always a smart thing to do. Get the whiting right, get your face in the shot, a bunch. Now, they found out later, he also added on-screen captions to the tapes mocking the women. Oh, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah, he, He enjoyed watching his back or was he sharing him with friends or was he doing with this? He was watching him back. They were for him. Okay. And these videos were like hours long, Carl. They were very long. But at the end, he would murder them all the same way with a belt around the neck on camera.
Starting point is 00:15:45 The most discussed footage shows him murdering a woman named Cassandra Walker, who was 19 years old. She was tied up to the support beam. And after she stops moving, he turns to the camera and says, this is my first kill. number one. She was a 19 years. She's 19. What's her name? Who gives a fuck? I don't give a shit. He's trying out stand-up now?
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yeah. I thought he was like, my first kill was nice. And then he like turns it off. Okay. Thanks, YouTube. Hit like and subscribe. When he finished with the others, you know, he would drive their bodies out to Ferguson, dump them around rural roads and areas across the Missouri Illinois line. Because he figured if he spread them out, it would look a little less suspicious. Oh, look, there's just a horror.
Starting point is 00:16:27 found over there. There's one over there. Yeah, and Illinois and Missouri don't talk to each other, so they're not going to know. It took two years. Yeah. He was doing this for a good two years. Now, during that time, Carl, there was not a real connection to this being a serial killer. Until May of 2001, I'm sorry, of 2002,
Starting point is 00:16:49 the St. Louis Post dispatch reporter named Bill Smith wrote a feature on one of the victims. A 36-year-old woman named Teresa, Wilson whose body had been found in West Alton. Forgive me, it was May 2001, he wrote that. Then in May 2002, this reporter gets an anonymous typed
Starting point is 00:17:07 letter to the newsroom. The writer praised the article, demanded that Smith keep covering these murders of prostitutes that no one knew was a thing, and enclosed a map with an X marked on it. Okay. The return address
Starting point is 00:17:22 wasn't on there. Was that a signature? There was the name of a bondage website for the signature called thralldom.com and then there was also text that said to prove I'm real here's directions to number 17 so he's posting
Starting point is 00:17:39 his videos online nope nope the cops went out there to the spot on there and they found a skeleton the map was a printout from Expedia.com Carl and guess what the FBI did um
Starting point is 00:17:53 looked up who was logged into Expedia with those directions Yep. It took about all of five seconds, because as we all know, if you're a creepoff fan, Microsoft will throw you right under the bus. Oh, yeah. They're all tattletails. They are big-time tattletails. So they pulled the log access with the exact URL, and only one IP address had requested that map during the relevant window. It traced to a residential broadband account in Ferguson, Sandra Travis's our boy, Mori's mom. Now, to confirm a DNA match without alerting her son, the task force intercepted his garbage. blocked from the house and pulled DNA off discarded plastic spoons, and it matched evidence to two bodies they had found. So if this guy could just afford regular flatware, he wouldn't have gotten caught. Correct.
Starting point is 00:18:38 That's right. Folks just wash your dishes. Wash your fucking dishes, man. Yeah. Stop being lazy. On the morning of June 7, 2002, agents executed a search warrant. This guy answers the door in his boxers yelling at the cops going, you know, it's seven o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I would up all night smoking crack. Anything videos. Have you got to wake me up? The sergeant told him it's a federal warrant. Travis asked why they were there. And he says, I think you know why. And Travis, according to them, dropped his head and said, yeah, I know why you're here. No boy.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Inside, they found the house upstairs to be pretty clean. But then when they got down to the basement, Carl, this is the room. That's the bondage post right there where he would tie these women up to. Yeah, a little multimedia room. Yeah. Looks like you could have a podcast. studio in that. For sure. Coving chairs.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I can see the fighter and the kid. I was just going to say that's the next set of the fighter. God damn it. Very funny. So there was the TV, a shelf of family-friendly videos. Then they noticed the locked door when they opened it. The smell of blood and cleaning fluid just fucking overtook
Starting point is 00:19:48 all of them. They went down and they found a row of VHS tapes, Carl. One of them was labeled Your Wedding Day. On a piece of paper, they found Travis had sketch renovations to the room to add cells where he intended to keep women chained for longer than a single night. That's good idea. Yeah, the crime lab eventually cataloged more than a thousand separate blood samples from the room.
Starting point is 00:20:13 DNA from at least six identified into victims. The tapes were on the shelf when the St. Louis police screened them. And the cops that saw the tapes were all ordered to mandatory psychological counts. late after. Why do they have to all watch it? Well, the ones who did. Like, and what, you know how we always joke that like, some guys like, okay, I'll watch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this time they're like, uh, you all have to go to a shrink after if you watch this shit. Right. It's that bad. So he gets charged with two counts of
Starting point is 00:20:44 kidnapping resulting in death. Uh, federal capital charges, obviously. And, uh, he hung himself in his cell three days later, never went to trial. The only thing they found was a note for his mom and uh it was one line i've been sick for a long time since i was 14 oh he never did any interviews nobody knows why he did it but i was having a lot of fun what you mean no one knows why he did it sure well i mean nobody knows what the deal was with the sunglasses and all that shit and the white dresses but i mean that's his creative uh 17 women they uh figured out that this guy murdered. And then last year, more bodies and more evidence came out, and they found four more that they tied to this guy. So there's over 20 women that this guy just tortured while using
Starting point is 00:21:36 crack. And he was just running around free. So I'm going to go ahead and say that is the biggest creep from St. Louis. Mori, Travis, ladies and gentlemen, you could vote at patreon.com backslash the creep off for your boy, Vinny. Oh, those poor prostitutes. All right, well, I have a creep before. If you want to pull up the photo of Vernon Brown. This fella. This guy was born October 1st, 1953, dropped out of school at the age of 16, tried to enlist in the army but was rejected. That's not a good sign. That's never good.
Starting point is 00:22:02 In 1973, he was convicted of raping a 12-year-old girl, and he spent the next four years in prison. Once he gets out, he moves to St. Louis and marries a homeless woman. Aw. Isn't that nice? Where did they live? On the streets. They're actually in North St. Louis, a very shitty neighborhood. They're in the ghetto.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Do you just say St. Louis? Yeah, I know. Good point. A few years later, while still married, he marries another chick. But this time he's under the alias of Tommy Turner. So he just is like, yeah, yeah, no. Vernon Brown's married, but Tommy Turner ain't. So he's got a bunch of wives and stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:37 He's having fun. Okay. He's a maintenance man. He's working in some buildings in the ghetto. What name is he using to get the checks? That's a good question. I would imagine Vernon Brown. But he's a maintenance man, and he also finds out he really,
Starting point is 00:22:50 loves PCP. Like PCP fucking rules, you know? I know your guy was crack cocaine. Obviously, meth's a good thing to do when you're in St. Louis, but PCP, I'd recommend. If you haven't tried St. Louis PCP, next time you're going through the Gateway City. Right. That's why they call it that, actually. So, March 7th, that's 85, 18-year-old Sonnetta Ford is found in your apartment having been stabbed in the throat with a butcher knife, and thereafter, strangled.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Hmm. So police questioned Brown, because he's a man. maintenance worker in the building. And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah. Actually, I saw a Cuban guy go running out of the door around that time. How did you know he was Cuban, Vernon? Yeah, the police are like, well, I don't know about that. He had a cigar.
Starting point is 00:23:33 So they ask, they ask his wife. They go, you know anything about this murder? And she goes, oh, yeah, yeah, he confessed the whole thing to me. His homeless wife ran him out. No, this is the second wife. The wife at the house? Yeah, the wife that actually has a home. Told the police like, oh, no, he told me he killed that woman.
Starting point is 00:23:50 He even explained how he used an electrical cord to strangler, and they're like, oh, you wouldn't know about that. That wasn't in the news. So there's the proof right there. Well, the charges were dropped, many, because there's a statute in Missouri that prevents a spouse from testifying in court. What? Even if the testimony is given willingly.
Starting point is 00:24:10 How? They do not allow that. So the wife's like, yep, I know we did it. I have the proof right here. They're like, well, we can't use it. So they let him go. That's pretty wild. How is that a law?
Starting point is 00:24:20 How is that anything? It's weird. It's not great. No, no, I want to tell you, Your Honor, he did the shit. We're not hearing that. We're not hearing that. So he gets released, right? And he decides, hey, that fucking bitch wife was going to wrap me out.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I'm done with her. But she's not allowed. He moves in with a 31-year-old Kathy Moore, who's a single mother. And she lives in the hood with three sons, 11-year-old Tommy Johnson, nine-year-old Christopher and seven-year-old Jason Moore. So after he moves in, he's loving these drugs. He moves in with them. He's using drugs all the time.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And he loves to, like, get down and spend some quality time with the stepkids. Mostly anal and oral. He's taking these kids from behind. Wow, I'm getting a call from Matt Lewinsky right now. Oh, no! I don't think I can take it, though. I definitely don't think you could put it on the air. No, I definitely get it.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I definitely can't put that in the air. Anyway, so he's getting down with these kids and showing him how to give head and stuff like that. And then this one afternoon, it's October 1986. How did he learn? He's sitting on the front porch. Well, you're going to find out. He's sitting on the front porch. There's a nine-year-old Janet Perkins, and she's just skipping by on our way to school.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And he says, hey, you, come here. I got candy inside. Come here. It's really delicious. He tells the boys, all right, to your bedrooms. I'm going to take my new friend down in the basement. And that's where he strangles her with a rope. Brown then wrapped Perkins' body in trash bags and dumped them in a container in an alley behind his house, where they would be found by a passerby.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Unfortunately, an eyewitness saw him with Janet Perkins, saw that Janet walked into his house. And the cops knock on the door like, hey, this dead body, found by your house. An eyewitness says that she walked in and he goes, oh, yeah, yeah. So I was smoking a lot of PCP. She came in. It was like, hey, can I get some PCP?
Starting point is 00:26:26 And I was like, we don't do anything like that here. No, he says, I was smoking a, officer, you are not going to leave this. I was smoking so much PCP, I blacked out. And he's like, and then, yeah, I guess I probably murdered her or something. Probably took her down in the basement. I don't know. So the police arrest him. and that's when they discover he's actually on the run from the police in Indiana
Starting point is 00:26:48 where he's charged for robbery and six counts of child molestation related to attacks on a 7-year-old girl and 11-year-old boy. So he's just going around raping children, this guy. So now they're like, all right, what else has this guy been up to? The FBI gets involved. The further investigation led to Brown being charged with the rape and murder of a 9-year-old Kimberly Kay Campbell whose nude and battered body was found in a vacant house in Indianapolis in 1980.
Starting point is 00:27:17 There were a number of other similar crimes that had not been solved that were right along this guy's route, right around those times. No, no. The most well-known of these was the murder of the St. Louis Jane Doe, a yet unidentified young girl who had been found raped, strangled, and decapitated in St. Louis, February 28, 1983. This is still a very famous unsolved murder. It turned out my guy did that one. That was my guy.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Born and Travis, and you could vote for him. Vernon Brown is the one who did it. So he's found guilty of the murder of Janet Perkins, that little nine-year-old girl. Yeah. They try him for the murder of Sinetta Ford. And listen to this.
Starting point is 00:27:58 This is great. So he admits to murdering her. But he goes, all right, you won't believe what happened. She grabs a knife and comes at me, right? Unprovoked. I wasn't even doing anything. Mind of my own business. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So, you know, I had to, like, grab that electrical cord to try to defend myself. So I'm, like, wrapping that around her. And she's wild with this knife. She's trying to get me really good. I had my pipe in one hand and my Indiana Jones electrical cord whip in the other. Yes. But this lady just wants to kill Vernon so badly she just being wild with the knife. And what she does is she's so frantic that she actually actually at least stabs herself in the chest and then pulls that out and then stamps herself in the neck.
Starting point is 00:28:36 It was a one in a million shot, Your Honor. It's wild. She just stammer herself. all over and that's why she died. I'm so angry at you right now. I can't stop standing myself very. So they didn't believe him. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And on May 18, 2005, he was executed by lethal injection. His final meal was shrimp, salad, and cake. He did request tacos and PCP, but that's what he was given. They wouldn't give him a little PCP on the way out. I know. Can you believe that? I'd be good with that if I was the... What's your drug a choice?
Starting point is 00:29:08 All right. can I mix PCP with Beth or is that asking too much? It's your birthday. Thank you. I'm sorry, I'm a death day. Vernon Brown is who you want to vote for. Patreon.com slash the creep off for the creepiest guy in St. Louis. Hey, you know what I forgot to tell you?
Starting point is 00:29:26 What? About my story. I'm not trying to just add on. Just a funny fact. The mother was renting this house after on Airbnb. And people found out it was the murder house to complain that she had to take it off. Oh, I was going to say she probably charged double for him.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I know there was a lot of sickos who'd want to go and hang out there. She had to take it down. She had to take it off. People got upset. And apparently she was renting it out for a long time. And she wouldn't tell anybody that this is the house. That shit went down in. So multiple people moved in and got the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah, I wouldn't advertise that part either. I mean, I get it. Sure. You know, it doesn't still smell like horror cunt in the basement. It's fine. We cleaned it out. You can't get that stink out. Dude, if you pull out the carpets.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Frees. Come on. That shit's in the soul of the house. Maybe you're right, Benny. Hey, I mentioned this earlier. And I don't know if anyone was paying attention to me, but supertip.g.g. slash creep. If you want to support our program and participate as well.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Well, we appreciate that. If you do join us over there, you could use all the fun voices. Adolf Hitler, Rick James. It's a lot of fun. Rumble Trenchco, Colombo, Bob 8-422. Thanks for the five bucks. The worst thing you did was make a woman dancing all white after Labor Day. After Labor Day, out.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Amy Lynn, thanks for becoming a new member. Welcome. Thanks, Amy Lynn. She also sent us a couple of bucks at Happy Super Chat Monday, boys. Love you. Love you, Amy Lynn. Thank you for being here. We love you back. And let me just double check this.
Starting point is 00:30:56 This is why Vinnie and I started the True Crime podcast for all the chicks. Absolutely. Thank you. Hmm. Okay. Well, we're going to fix something real fast, Carl, because Super Tips didn't want to fire again. Uh-oh. reload, refresh.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yep. I got it. One second, everybody. Why don't you talk to everybody, Carl? All right, we got an amazing cop cam coming up. Vinny actually sent this one to me, and I've been getting a lot of submissions lately, so thank you for the cop cam submissions. I do appreciate those. Also, I will be on, well, we're doing Point-Doublepoint
Starting point is 00:31:29 on my channel today at 4, and at 6 o'clock I'm going on Husey Show to talk about Chrissy Mayor. I have been all consumed with all things Chrissy Mayer since, well, since last week, I covered it on Devilverse Live when she had Melanie Mack on and refused to have Brittany Venty on and then lied about it. And then Brittany was on. Hey, look, that's me.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Hey, I got it to work. Just to remind you everybody, Carl eats poop. Well, thank you, Tugie's unpaid staff. That's, uh, that's right here in this building, isn't it? That room, it might be. That wall behind me, yeah. That's where the pool table usually is. You ate poop where the pool table is?
Starting point is 00:32:06 I just put that solid block of wood out there and just had some lunch. That's disgusting. Also anonymous thanks for the five bucks on Supertips. I'm the only one who thinks execution by injection is lame. There are rapists and murders, not straight puppies you're putting to sleep. I agree. Off with their heads. Guillotine.
Starting point is 00:32:23 That is a good point. There really should be like way more severe. I was saying this on the bonus show too. There needs to be a wheel of consequences. You get sentenced to death. You got to spin it. I agree. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Pound of flesh. Oh. All righty, let's watch your cop cam. Let's do it. I can't wait to see. Cause cop cam. Fight with the cops for no reason. Will you please show me cause cop can lose all your rights.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Ooh. All right. This one gets crazy quickly. It starts off with a very angry father. And you're not going to really... It's this one? Yeah. You're not like to understand the context.
Starting point is 00:33:09 in this, but you're going to understand it very quickly after this. So start my clip number one and you'll see what's about to unfold. Aatable motherfucker you're ever going to say. On July 23rd, 2024 officers in Athens County, Ohio responded to a 911 call involving a concerned parent after a young individual reported troubling behavior while staying at a residence where she had been asked to provide child care. We're taking it. Oh, my friend, please.
Starting point is 00:33:45 No, no, right now. I got it. Were you, please? You are you? See my wife. Sir. Hey, sir. Sir, please.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Okay. So this guy seems very upset with this other gentleman. It's never great when the cop is like, no, you can't have your phone back. No, that's not good. And the wife is like beside herself. She's so upset. I'm pretty sure she said, can I please have counseling? I thought that would you say?
Starting point is 00:34:16 I think that's what she just asked the police officer. Can someone get a therapist out here quick? All right, so basically, the guy who's yelling over there, that's the father of a 14-year-old girl. Now, the 14-year-old girl was doing a solid for this guy and doing a little babysitting. She actually was over at the house for three days and nights, babysitting their toddler. And we're going to hear what didn't happen in my clip number two. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:44 What didn't happen, everybody? Well, I was like she was messing to me. Okay. And she sent me some pigs. And I got home. She's in house naked. There's some videos in there because I was recording everything. And I was like, no, we can't do this, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:01 She kind of led to one thing to another. I was like, no, we can't do this. And I didn't work her like she's their sign. Okay. You know, I know she's underage. I didn't know her. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:11 That brought to a good start. He's saying he didn't rape the 14-year-old babysitter. was staying at his house. That's good. You shouldn't do that. I know there's some videos you might see on the internet, but she was really coming on to this fucking beerbelly piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Oh my gosh. She was so horned up for this guy, according to him. So let's find out. What actually did happen? Clip number three, he'll explain what actually did happen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Some stuff did happen, but you know, I need you to be like totally up front and honest with me. I know it's weird, but I need you to just tell me what, Was going my pants down, sir, gave me oral. Okay. And I got hard and I did do a little bit of a penetration, but not much. Just the tip, officer. Just the tip.
Starting point is 00:36:00 That is tight as you'd think she'd be either, by the way, officer. I would not her first. I can tell you that. You know, I'm not an attorney, but I would advise you shut the fuck. Dude. Is he insane? The one thing I can tell you is that there was a, no other course. Okay, there was some penetration. And definitely oral sex. I did sex her up a little
Starting point is 00:36:21 bit. Um, dear God. Okay. So she was sucking my dick. I got hard. Okay. As one does. And maybe I tripped it. It fell into her. She had a good technique actually. Officer Al. Robert is demonstrated. Oh, okay. No, you're good. All right. Um, so the dad is, uh, is angry about this. These kids just don't know when to shut up Then I was like No, we need to stop and we went to bed The day I have her phone I don't have her phone
Starting point is 00:36:51 I gather her off her stuff up It's weird It's all right there It's right there Okay I don't know what all happened What's all going on I try to show him
Starting point is 00:37:00 Try to talk to him But he's all mad and upset Yeah I understand Yeah he's man This cop is so cob upon all this Yep he's mad Now let me tell you something
Starting point is 00:37:11 if I was a lawyer, I would have advised that man to absolutely take that girl's phone and his own phone and everything and throw it into a fire pit immediately. Yes. You fucking dummy. This is bad. This is really bad. Well, hold on a second, though, Vinnie. I know right now you're probably... I'm glad he's stupid.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I'm glad they caught him. Yeah. Right now you're probably thinking like this is all this guy's fault, you know? But it turns out these guys used to work together, these two gentlemen. and the dad with the 14-year-old girl when they used to work together, he was bragging all about how sexually active his daughter was by clip five.
Starting point is 00:37:52 He'll come again. But he told me stories about his daughters. We was a little nervous about having her babysit anyway because the story she told me. So she's the babysitter? Yeah. Okay. I guess she's had with older men before.
Starting point is 00:38:06 He's told me in the past because we worked together. That's how we know each other. Okay. So if you don't want your co-worker sleeping with your underage daughter, stop bragging about what a slut she is. Apparently. Victim, blame me.
Starting point is 00:38:23 No one sign that someone murdered. Okay. Okay. So I think this dummy finally realizes that like maybe he said a little bit too much and that he might be in trouble in my next clip. Oh, because all the cops are standing going, do tell. Yes. fucking asshole
Starting point is 00:38:41 and stuff like I said she was already I got a little bit when I got home you know okay I know
Starting point is 00:38:46 I got done but she was drinking before you got here yeah okay yeah she had a whole thing of liquor
Starting point is 00:38:53 okay a whole bottle it was pretty full and it was about empty when I got home okay and stuff I mean it was in
Starting point is 00:39:00 no liquor cam I mean I'm probably gonna go jail most likely more lapar okay I'm what you
Starting point is 00:39:06 well I'm in to wear this quite bit chum probably then 14 mm-hmm and whatever
Starting point is 00:39:12 yeah he's like she was shit-faced and uh I mean you know 14 year olds are with her shit face super fucking horned up
Starting point is 00:39:22 uh I was pretty drunk myself you know what are gonna do uh wait am I in trouble for everything I just said yeah
Starting point is 00:39:28 yeah you are oh because the child molestation part like yeah yeah that's it that's the thing you're at trouble for sir I think I was like yeah probably
Starting point is 00:39:38 yeah I think you're probably going to go to jail. So the cop finally gives him some good advice, but it's too little too late, I would say. Is it kill yourself? Right now you're being detained, okay? But I am going to read you your Miranda rights, all right? You have the right to remain silent.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Do you understand what I'm telling you here? You can tell me you want an attorney and you can end it at any time, okay? Yeah. You could have stopped talking before you said the, a little bit of penetration parts, or the pulled my pants down and sucked my hard cock. Fucking idiots. Now, you think he's confessing to this crime.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Well, there's a reason for that. And that's because, as he mentioned, he filmed everything. And so he lets the cops know that they are in for a treat when they see these videos. Well, I appreciate you being honest with me. And we'll deal with that. And then when you watch the videos, you'll see every now. Yeah, they're really fucking hot. Wait until you watch these videos.
Starting point is 00:40:38 ain't going to blame me after you watch him videos yeah look at those titties you those look 14 to you officer so minnie i don't think that all the cops watch the videos i don't think that's how that works right what who is he Vince McMahon gather around fellas right uh all right so now um we go over to the dad and find out uh how this all went down well my whore daughter was babysitting again least my wife called Derek on messenger he answered yeah so I said I was like give me that phone so I was like what are you doing dude you my daughter and you got her drunk oh that you don't know what went on here I said I do know what went on here you my daughter dude well you don't know what I said I don't
Starting point is 00:41:26 care what went on an adult if my daughter was drunk would the first thing you have done is called their parents right I said you never even called us or message us nothing and he was like yeah come over here come over here I'm home, I'm home. I said, good, you're going to jail, dude. So if I'm understanding this right, and I did watch this pretty thoroughly, the rapist messages the dad and goes, look at these slutty photos your daughter sending me. I mean, she really wants it. I don't know what you want me to do here. You mind if I hit that? You mind if I hit that just a little bit?
Starting point is 00:42:01 Hey, is that George Bush, senior, in a dress over here? Who is this person? That's the neighbor. who the little girl went booking out of the house and knocked on the door to use the phone to call her parents. My pito post. After she was getting essayed. Oh, my God. Yeah. I don't think this guy's story is what really happened here at all.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I don't think she was all that into it. I don't think she was trying to seduce him. You're telling me she didn't find that guy irresistible. That's what I'm telling you. And the dad agrees with my clip 10. That girl sat down our mate. So he had his wife. grab it. I said, dude, I'm not coming up to you because I'm not going to jail. I said, I'm going to stay away from you.
Starting point is 00:42:45 He goes, well, Kayla, go take him over my phone. So she brought over his phone and was show me the pictures of pictures. A couple of pictures and stuff. And I said, let me see the time on that. So I scored up to the very first one. It was 255 a.m. I said, dude, you took them put pictures off. You took them pictures off of her phone and sent them to your phone. I know exactly what you. you did. I said, because you took her phone last night. So this guy grabs her, the babysitter's phone, finds a bunch of nudes out there. She's sending off to her boyfriends and stuff. Oh, no. He's just like, see, here's proof. She's sending me these photos.
Starting point is 00:43:24 He's like, no, she's not. She's not the one sending you those photos, sir. Now, after you find all of this out, this guy's just confessed to essaying, this 14-year-old girl, this is the father right here. all about it, seeing nudes of his daughter on the phone. Yeah, and there's a former president of the United States there is a witness. Right, there's a lot going on here.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I can't believe how fucking calm this guy is by clip 11. And I understand you're frustrated and upset and your emotions are beyond right now. You know what I mean? I just got chilled on a little bit. I mean, I'm still really upset,
Starting point is 00:44:04 but let's get your son gathered up here and you can head into the hospital and be with your daughter, okay? That's good. you know a lot of people in the chat are making a good point that i didn't really think of here what's that how does this guy know what nudes his daughter had on her phone it is a little weird right yeah it's not great yeah he's like no no she took that one last week i recognize that one wow um that guy's not going to be welcome back at the bar how the fuck
Starting point is 00:44:32 is this guy this com right now he's like all right i got a little bit uh heated there but i'm better now like you are you should He'd be strangling this man. Yeah. But I think sometimes you rage out so hard, and then you see the guy in cuffs, and you know, there's not much more you can do. You can breathe a little bit. I hope so, man.
Starting point is 00:44:49 All right, last clip, the charges. Derek Trimmer allegedly took questionable photographs at his residence. Officers noted the victim reported consuming alcohol and an unknown beverage, after which she experienced unusual intoxication. Medical test results later revealed the presence of multiple substances and hospital staff expressed concerns that the victim may have been drugged. He was arrested and charged with unlawful interactions and booked into the Athens County Jail with bonds set at $75,000.
Starting point is 00:45:20 He drugged this kid? He drugged this kid. Liquor wasn't enough to get her pants off. What the fuck? That's wild. Yeah, it's, uh, he got, you got some good stuff from Chile to Castro and had a good time with his babysitter. Rotten hell, my friend.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Rotten hell, Derek. That's a wild one. Thanks for sending that in. Did someone send that in to you? No, I actually just came across that one. And I never watched the whole thing. I saw what the gist was and I sent it to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:52 On account of whatever. Smart. So Carl, let's hit up some voicemails. I fucked him up last week. This week I got it. Aren't you all proud of me? I am. The Creepoff voicemail segment is brought you by the city of Syracuse.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Syracuse held their 19th annual Crawfish festival. great what are we going to fill our aquarium with now see you in Syracuse oh Syracuse what a gross place I had to drive through there the other night I hate it so much that's right you had some great gigs with Jim Forrentine this past weekend I want to tell you that I was at this club on Saturday night watching Earl David Reed the great EDR I heard he had a great show Saturday he was fantastic it was the best I've seen him do he crushed it that's I heard there was some very funny crowd work lots of fun stuff he was so funny it was great yeah earl's the best and uh shout out to jim thanks for having me with you uh there was a lot of creepos who came out so that
Starting point is 00:46:51 was nice nice i tell jerry and devon and uh hellraiser 69 came to the buffalo show oh he was at uh he was at er show on friday too yeah he uh made a whole weekend of comedy nice couple people said they were wAT p fans so that was very cool what yeah yeah that's weird yeah i'm just uh telling you man, it was good to see everybody out there. So thanks for coming out and supporting and seeing a good comedy show. And I'll give Jim another plug. He's going to be an Erie PA coming up in June. Cool.
Starting point is 00:47:20 All right, here we go. Oh, man, I got a whopper of a story call since we're on the topic of restaurants. Hold on. I'll fucking believe this. I went to McDonald's the other day and the ice cream machine was broken. What the fuck? They do that show on purpose, man. I think they do, too.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Do that on purpose. It's been a while since we've heard from him, but here's our pal, the podcast prophet. Hey, boys, podcast profit. Your Holy Spirit is speaking through me. I think Google might be a woman because I noticed when you start making a sentence, it's giving you suggestions before you even finish your thought. Any of a calling bullshit. Vinny, you got to give Matt Doolewinsky, right?
Starting point is 00:48:08 That's his name, the real podcast profit. Wrong. Yeah, get him some money, bud. Because you, uh, end of the episode this week, you called him the podcast hitman. You called him. You, you didn't call him. Sarcastically. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:48:27 No, call him bullshit. Thank you for you, you bye. Go ahead and call bullshit. Matthew Lewinsky, thanks for the five bucks. It's the arborist calling in, Carl. Oh, nice. Hey, guys, this is the arborist. I'm listening to the mess.
Starting point is 00:48:41 recent episode. Two things. Y'all should really do creakest like martial arts instructor or jiu jih Tzu instructor. Jiu-Jitsu specifically like I do jitsu and it's like a lot of the instructors are fucking pedophiles. Like it's weird or like there's always like sex abuse studs like like Lloyd Irvin is a really good one. Yeah that's going to right now. A new one now that guy just got a wrecked in Brazil like Melki got out. for like molesting the students. Pretty gross. But that's the first thing.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And then the second thing, the scumphrey dude with the real child dolls, guys like pedo Jesus. He had 12 of them. Anyway. See you. Like disciples. He had 12 of them. I'm thinking Missy B if we're doing that category.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Oh, creepiest martial arts instructor. Yeah. Didn't you put Anthony's keys or wallet and cat shit or something like? that oh was that her yeah okay big topic in the news right now is gerrymandering I think we need some of that shit with a free bough I mean look at the past couple weeks like
Starting point is 00:49:52 oh 55 45 45 51 49 fucking a tie but we need to have to we need to draw these boundary lines so that there are some weeks where Carl wins by like 70% some weeks they win by like 80% and we could just
Starting point is 00:50:09 be done with all this 50 50 bullshit We need to have races that are not competitive. I think that would be better for democracy. Who would that be better for? I'm not sure. Thank you for thinking that through at the end there. Yes, I agree. Everyone should just vote for me.
Starting point is 00:50:32 That we don't have any of this tie or these tight races. Stop Jerry mandering. I don't even know Jerry. There's too much mandering over there. You know, I got to give a shout out to this. guy, Ronnie and Syracuse. He left me a long-ass message, but he's such a good guy and he's been sending me a lot of stories lately. So I'll play.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Nice. Hey, Ronnie in Syracuse, even though Carl continues to win the competition, he continues to fail in so many other ways. Oh my God. We must have told us between the bonus episode on Friday and the emergency minisodes WATP, he must have told us three thousand times about the ZEGELA. it inside his nose. Where's the Abe Simpson drop? Oh, bitch, baby, bitch. Holy crap.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Also, Carl was saying that they had the ashes of the cat. I forget his name right now. In an urns and a porphrine. Yeah. Well, I've got the ashes and porphrints of two dogs of mine at home. So it is something that people do, Carl. And what else can I tell you? Anyway, that's all I got.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Thank you, fuck you, bye. The cat was Tsukiyaki. Where did that name come from? It's a Chinese dish. Oh, I thought you guys are just being racist because a cat had like squinty eyes or something. Jesus Christ. That's fucked up, this is not the time nor the place, my friend.
Starting point is 00:51:56 That's a fucked up thing to say. Neither the time. Rini, winnie, never spinny. What you need to put on the wheel consequent is now is you've got to trim enough of your pubic hair to cover up Carl's ball spot. That patch in the back. He's got to walk around for a day.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I don't use some type of order. face glue. Get after it. You want me to fill in your bald spot with my pubes, Carl? You're going to make me a pubic yarmica that I'm going to wear around? We'd put pub yamaca. All right. Put it on. Oh, my God. No, you're... Oh, that's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Put it on the wheel. I don't even want to participate in that. You're too anxious. Why are you so anxious? Put it up there right now. We're going to get it up there now. Let's go. I do got to get something to cover this thing up. Jesus. Yeah. I actually can't allow you to because, remember, we talked about on the
Starting point is 00:52:41 bonus episode. I have plans just like Batman did against the Justice League and how to end all of you. I need that ball spot exposed from my evil plan. Perfect. All right. Where are we at now? What do we do now after the voicemails carl? I believe it's a scum parade. Oh shit. I think I could go for that. And you know what I feel like listening to? This one. Scull parade. Take a auto raid of this fuck charades that these creeps have made. Scope, we raid Vidy and Carl Go to tell you about some fuck shit Skulled put by his mom or dad
Starting point is 00:53:22 Soaking up the blood of a cat Scalculpera Hey Carl, this is Brooke McDaniel Wow 27 years old I like him young Yeah, had a 22-month-old son And got herself into a little bit of trouble
Starting point is 00:53:44 The police had to show up at her house Over a child abuse complaint You see, McDaniel told the troopers that she was tattooing her own leg when her toddler walked up to her and struck his arm in the way of her tattoo gun. Police then spotted a black dot tattoo on the tot's right forearm and redness around at the citation said. Several witnesses in front of them that McDaniel described the tattoo as a party dot tattoo and strangely claimed that he the child wanted the tattoo. Oh, you didn't tell me she was a cool mom.
Starting point is 00:54:16 No, she's not. She tattoo the kid with a party dot tattoo. And that is like, no, it was an accident. No, he wanted it. Oh, I see what you're saying. So the kid can choose his gender, but as soon as he wants a tattoo, you don't want to give it to him. Correct. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Fair enough. Charged with fourth degree assault for child abuse was ordered and held on a $5,000 cash bond. The kid's cooler. I will say that. The kid's definitely cooler. He's getting so much pussy now? 22 months old. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Pretty good. Now, Carl, when it comes to. a woman, what is the one thing you don't fuck with? Their hair? That is correct. This is Las Gabriela Barbosa de Kuna. She's 27 years old. And I believe we're going down to Brazil for this.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah, sounds right. Yep, yep, yep. So on April 7th, she went got a hair procedure done that involved highlights and texturizing, which I don't know what the fuck that means. Procedure. It's a hair cut and dye job. Okay. Witnesses told police she initially left the salon very happy with the result and even posted compliments online.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Nice. But days later, she began complaining about her hair demanding her money back and sending threatening message to the salon's WhatsApp account. What administrative worker reportedly told officers that Las said she wanted to set fire to the hairstylist. Eduardo told police she later demanded he fixed the alleged damage or refund the money. I guess that's the guy who cut her hair, Eduardo. Yeah. Staff said she returned to the salon without an appointment on Tuesday of last week. and became angry because she was told there was no refund.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Right, and Eduardo's busy. You've got to make an appointment, ma'am. Right, so let's watch the video. This is Eduardo down here in the corner, and that is Las right next to him. There's no audio in this because the noise that he made is so high-pitched. We probably wouldn't be able to hear it anyway. Okay. But there she is.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Security's telling her to leave. She's like, I want a refund. So she reaches into her purse, pulls out a knife and stabs him in the neck. Yes. Hold on a second You're saying that if your hair's jacked up You can just murder your stylist Because if that's the case
Starting point is 00:56:21 Vinnie and I should be On a murder expiry right now No man, my barber's great Okay My barber's awesome Yeah yeah yeah yeah no I can tell What's that fade bitch It's really good
Starting point is 00:56:31 You look amazing It's the rest of me that's the problem This is why It's not the cut you son of a bitch This is why So my wife's a hairstylist As you guys know And she follows up after she
Starting point is 00:56:42 You know Does someone's hair With a text message Hey How do you like how's it working for you? Because she wants to know whether or not she'd go to the salon the next day. This is why she follows up with all of her clients.
Starting point is 00:56:53 How are you feeling? You had any murderous rage? What's going on? Sure. Sure. Now, uh, this woman has been arrested and she's admitted to stabbing Eduardo after arguing about the refund. He suffered a superficial wound and underwent a forensic medical examination.
Starting point is 00:57:09 The knife was seized by police. The salon said in a statement that Eduardo was deeply shaken, but well, and we're thankful he's out of danger. It'll be fine. Yeah. Don't stab your hair stylist if you don't like your haircut. Just go somewhere else, all right? Really?
Starting point is 00:57:25 Yeah. Okay. Would you like to meet the coolest grandma ever? Yes. That's her. That's our Roxanne record. She's 57 years old, and she faces first-degree murder and cruelty to a juvenile charges in the death of her four-year-old granddaughter China record.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I thought he said, cool. Well, I'll tell you what happened. Okay. So the case centers on an incident in April of 2022. When China allegedly took a sip from a bottle of Canadian mist whiskey. Okay. That belonged to grandma, you see. So what did Dad do when he caught you smoking a cigarette?
Starting point is 00:57:59 He's got to smoke the whole pack. You got to smoke the whole pack. Yep. So she forces the child down to her knees and forces the child to chug the entire bottle of Canadian mist whiskey. At which point, the child died within two hours. her blood alcohol content measured 0.680. Jesus. More than eight times the legal limit for adult drivers.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Vinnie. Yeah. How do you get a four-year-old to drink that much whiskey and keep it down? I'm asking for a friend. I don't think she kept it down. I'm sure there was a mess involved in this. Was there a chaser involved? Chocolate milk, Sprite.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Like, what is a four-year-old? Juice box. Juice box. So chase the whiskey with the juice box. Yeah. You could actually just, have you ever had a little whiskey and Capri sun? Sure. That's a nice afternoon.
Starting point is 00:58:50 You get the orange. It's probably who I'm dating at the time, but yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no. Prosecutors argue the killing was the culmination of years of abuse. Assistant District Attorney Dana Cummings told jurors the record favored her other grandchildren while demonizing China. other children in the home had been conditioned to view China's consumption of food and water as stealing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:18 So this kid had anything. She was like, China stole some water from the saying. Yeah. And she stole grandma's whiskey. She stole a lot of grandma's whiskey more than a pint. Oh, you should know about her. A point six something? Jesus.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Six, eight. China's mother, Kedasia, is also charged with murder for witnessing the incident and not intervening. Yeah, chug it, bitch. I learned what I was for not to fucking steal mom's whiskey. What do you want me to tell you? Wow. The defense argues the death was a tragic accident, not deliberate murder. Family members confirmed the history of abuse, by the way.
Starting point is 00:59:54 They said that there's a lot of troubling behavior when it came to China. So here's one more story for us. Now, listen, people, I love dogs. You know that about me. But here's your warning. There's your trigger warning. Yes. A Santa Barbara County man allegedly killed and cooked the family dog in a disturbing case of animal cruelty.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Deputies from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office arrested 37-year-old Husto Alejandro Buena Rostro on April 18th for killing Coco, the family dog. He cut and cooked the dog at his residence. It's unclear whether he ate the dog, but deputies were called to the residence and responded because, you know, he's out in the backyard grilling a golden retriever. Can I hire this guy? to take care of my neighbor's dog that barks all day long? You'd have to bail him out.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Okay. During the search of the properties, deputies located evidence indicating that the family dog had been killed. Just a bloody leash dog ball. It looks like troubles afoot. Yeah. Animal control officers responded to the scene, conducted an investigation, and took possession of the remains, again, on the grill. When the cops showed up, this is my favorite line of this, they restrained person butchered and cooked the family dog. and actively continued to do so when family found out and law enforcement arrived.
Starting point is 01:01:15 The order said, adding that when the cops got there, he was still cooking the animal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, it's not done yet. You guys, boys sit down. You're going to add a little more saw. I'm going to brush some more sauce on the leg here. There's some beers in the cooler, no 20 minutes. What's the point of torturing and killing a family dog if you don't do it in front of the family?
Starting point is 01:01:32 They're like, can you believe he was still doing it while the family was there watching? He's like, well, yeah. That's the whole point. He's in custody And a $100,000 band His inmate listening says he has no occupation And fuck him Please don't kill dogs
Starting point is 01:01:47 Yes killing dogs is bad everyone I was joking around before You know I think I love dogs very very much And the thought of a dog being hurt like that Really Sorry guys
Starting point is 01:02:00 We are celebrating I want to bring the mood back up We are celebrating a big day today It is Super Chat Monday And you guys are celebrating Super Chat Monday with us And we appreciate that. You know, our pal Tuki's unpaid staff threw us two bucks where we were watching that cop can video.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Because he wanted to know between our boy Derek there and the 14-year-old, who was the little spoo? Yeah, good question. It was not Derek. You'll have to watch the video that he's all proud of. Our pal, Jay Dallin 1047, has been a member for 13 months. He said he was working in the newsroom when the whole serial killer map thing went down. Oh, that's crazy times. So.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Oh, wow. Yeah, that was big news, I would imagine. When a guy's like, hey, here's the treasure map to a dead hook. It's the worst booty you find. Captain Blackbread at five bucks. The state measures your sentence inch by inch. If you get a micropinus, you get out sooner. It sucks that I had to censor this.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Is that about Matt Lewinsky? Maybe. I didn't say it, Matt. If you heard of murderous rage again, Vinnie's the one calling you a tiny dick over here. You could read this one, Carl. Says Vin he wins again. I'm not mad, Carl.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I'm just disappointed. Disgrossiard. That's you. Rock or B, thanks to the two bucks. Don't drink Granny's go-go juice. Right. She's very upset with you. Tuki's unpaid staff, thanks for the fiber.
Starting point is 01:03:17 But officer, she drank that whiskey five hours ago. She can't be drunk. Sir, she's deaf. One more for you, Carl. Well, this is I'm team Vinny now. Oh. But he's spelled a V-I-N-N-Y, which I appreciate there. Doesn't hurt my feelings at all.
Starting point is 01:03:33 It was a kind. Very kind message. Do we have any more super tips? Let's take a look. We got a couple. G.G. CREAP. No, we're all set on those.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Participate over there. Now, people remember on Monday, or I'm sorry, on Friday, Michael, too. Yes. More Michael Jackson News as one of our Hall of Famers. We're going to pick up in 1989 where the movie left off, and we hope you join us for that at noon. Carl, what do you have going on on your channel this afternoon? Yeah, so join us for a point dabblepoint at 4 p.m.
Starting point is 01:04:06 I'll be chatting with Lucy and Trucker Andy and Shulie about the latest Suttering John News. And then 6 o'clock with Husey, Husey Entertainment on YouTube, chatting about Chrissy Mayer. And boy, did she step in it. A lot of people are very upset with Chrissy Mayer after her shows on Thursday and then last night with Brittany Venty. Is that your content hotel t-shirt? That's why I'm wearing my Chrissy Mayer content hotel t-shirt. Can I tell my favorite story about the content hotel? Of course.
Starting point is 01:04:38 I forget which show it was after. I think it was maybe Detroit. Like you did that and then Detroit was right after. Correct, yeah. And I was driving a lot of equipment and stuff out there. Yep. And they had given you a gas card. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:53 It was part of my payment. It was a $50 gas card. Yeah. And Carl just goes, hey, I flew. They gave me this. Why don't you just use it for gas because you're driving all the equipment? I go, fucking awesome. Yep.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Didn't work. I tried like three shell stations. I know. I was like, I was like, Vinnie, you take my 50 bucks. Thank you so much for bringing all the gear out to Detroit. And they gave me a gas card with no money on it. So thanks, Chrissy. We love you.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Love you, miss you. Maybe, you know what? Maybe we'll do Michael 2 the week after. Chrissy Mayer coming up on Friday. Vinie, real quick, I think we got a new member that just came in. Did we really? Yeah. Ernie Cordero.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Welcome to the party creep. Thanks for being here. We'll be back on Friday. And see you next time. Make sure you go to the patreon.com backslash the creepoff and vote right now. It's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Good, Gia.
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