The Creep Off - Episode 320: Old Habits Die Hard

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

After a month of Pride-themed creep categories, we're throwing out the rules. One final wildcard matchup will decide who earns the dubious honor of being crowned the creepiest of them all. Karl and Vinnie will also bring you another edition of Karl's Cop Cam, a fresh Scum Parade packed with the internet's latest degenerates, and your voicemails.Don’t forget to vote for who brought the biggest creep at patreon.com/thecreepoff.  Anthrocon marks 20 years of bringing furries to Pittsburgh'Poodunnit' solved after swimmer admits to defecating in UK pool at least 18 TIMES after police probeFlint Twp. 7-year-old dies weighing 255 lbs.; parents charged with 2nd-degree murder | Crime | abc12.comNY grandma likely poisoned, stabbed grandkids, daughter in murder-suicide: copsCheck out this week’s scum parade stories here: The score is currently Vinnie 1` - Karl 2 – Guest 4 Want more of the madness? Support the show on Patreon, Supercast to snag exclusive merch and get an extra bonus episode every week!Don’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108You can follow our results girl Mahalia @mahellllyeahYou can follow our Results girl Danni on Instagram @Danni_Desolation

Disgusting, vomit-inducing thing. Ola creepos, welcome to another episode of your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps by creeps for you creeps. We are finishing up Pride Month Strong, Carl. Yes, we are. A fifth Monday in pride. So much pride. We weren't ready for this. We were like, oh shit, we got to fight more creeps?

We were so ready because we've had so many stories that we didn't use this month. That's true. But I figured the best place to do this. show today would be down in your wood paneled basement. Why is that? You know, gay pride. It is creepy down here. No, no, no, no, no.

It's the gay pride. It's the gay pride part. Not the creepy. I see what you're saying. Gay pride isn't creepy. Your basement. It's naughty pine. Balloon, naughty pine.

It's a nice wood paneling. All right, whatever you say. Ask Pat Dixon. He agrees. He likes it. He sure does. He slept under that pool table for about a week once. Speaking of Pat Dixon, he was on our bonus show on Friday.

If you're not on our Patreon or a YouTube member, you should be. Now, I just want to let everybody know, the creepoff does have its own YouTube channel. For those of you who are watching on WATP, and I know a lot of you are members of the WATP channel. You get all that great bonus content. But if you want to support this show in particular, make sure you head over to the YouTube channel. Hit subscribe over there as well. And if you want to be a member, you get those bonus episodes there or on our Patreon, as Carl said. Now, buddy.

The show is a contest. If you are unfamiliar with the creep off, strap in, because every single week, Vinnie and I compete to find the biggest creep in a certain category, and we present to you the fine viewers and listeners who we think is the biggest creep. Then you listen to both of us, head over to patreon.com slash of the creep off, and put in your vote. We then count those votes. I mean, we don't.

Danny does. She does. And then we report on that. You should see our count, too. It's very jiggly. Oh, it's great. We report on that. The next two plus three. She uses their fingers.

Not our boobs. We report on that the next week, and then the winner gets a point, and the first person to five wins the round. The other person has been the dreaded wheel of consequences. What is the current score right now? The current score is tied one-to-one, Carl. We are at one-to-one right now, and I want to know what's going on with our past week. What do we do? Creepiest Plus.

Creepest Plus. That's right. Now, you picked Cherno Burko, who is like an activist who claims that they ard someone. and my person did a lot of very bad things. Well, let's find out how you voted because we are bringing in our results girl, Danny. Do you have a drop for her or anything? No.

Oh, we're at your studio. I got shit. Hey, Danny. Hello. How about this? Hong Kong, Hong Kong. It's pretty good. Hi, Danny.

Danny, you look fantastic today. I have to tell you. Oh, thank you. Holy shit. Yeah. Just almost falling out of it. I know. You should get a couple more of those shirts.

Yeah. I really should. I love it. It, like, sucks you in real good and also makes your tits look good. Oh, good. Send me a link. I might need that. Might need one of those.

Oh, yeah. Should you just say sucks you? Is that what she just said? Were you listening to her talk? I think you just said sucks you. Danny, do you have the results from last week's creep off episode? Oh, shit. I do.

I do have the results. I hope it's good news. I hope it's good news. Come on. Come on. Looks like it was close A-F. Okay. So for the creepiest A-plus, whatever, this week's winner goes to Carl and Trinobarco.

Yeah. I'm sorry, Danny. We couldn't hear you over the thunderous celebration. What were you just saying? I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know you couldn't hear me over that. 51%.

So, like, you got like, maybe. one or two extra votes. That was a close one. Where were you? When I defeated you, everyone. 51% of the vote! That's fucking awesome. God damn it!

I take a two to one lead, and this is exciting. I've been crushing it lately. I'm bringing it. But he doesn't know what to do with himself anymore. You can't handle it. I really am nervous because we added some pretty crazy things to the wheel of consequences over our last bonus episode. Yeah. So Alex, our producer,

message to us. So we are doing the take LSD and go to a house of mirrors. Yeah, apparently. That is a thing that we're doing. I told my wife about that. She's like, we're going to get LSD. I'm like, we'll crowdsource it.

I don't know. Whatever. She was concerned. No, that sounds amazing. She was concerned. My wife was concerned that the LSD could be laced with fentanyl. And so I had to explain to her

how fentanyl works. I was like, well, no, it can't be. It's... Sweet, sweet. Sweet Jenny. Sweet, sweet girl. I'm just going to start another wine of LSD over here. Oh, shit.

It's fat. Oh, no. Snort that acid. You'll get addicted. Very funny. Daddy, do you ever do LSD before? I have. It's pretty fun, huh?

Yeah, it is. It's amazing. What's your go-to music when you're tripping? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, I do have a story about that if you'd like to hear for a second. I mean, if it's going to be a short story, then yes. It's a sex story, for sure.

I'm listening. Okay. And LSD. Okay. Me and my fiancé did a close the door, please. Sorry, my child came in. Okay. You know what we are?

Maybe don't tell the story right now. Don't tell the story. Shut up. Shut up. Let her tell the story. All right. He's gone. I promise.

We're good. He didn't realize that was on yet. Yeah, yeah. So it was, let's see. I want to say three years ago. It was before we had the baby or we're pregnant or anything. we were like we got a few hits of acid and I really liked it I've only done it like maybe four or five times ever but it was amazing yeah um there's a song uh by uh this band called Bach it's B A K and they have this crazy ass video

and I swear to God we were sitting watching it it looks like you should watch it on acid right yeah I started like feeling so good from the fucking music I guess and the acid. It was like making me like, I don't even know, super horny and like weird. Yeah, yeah. And like moaning and shit. Squirting all over your panties?

Pretty much from watching it. It was so fucking weird. And then, yeah, we started having sex and that was like crazy. It was almost, it was wild. All right. Let's change the wheel of consequence. We have to do LSD with Danny. And I don't want to forfeit.

You're already in the lead, Carl. No, no, no, no. Don't vote for me anymore. LSD with Danny on the wheel. Seriously, the best drug anything that I've ever done. And I was an addict. Like, that was the best time I've ever had on anything ever. So good.

We endorse a lot of drugs here on the creep off. I don't think LSD gets it to do. So I'm glad that we're finally on it. Well, it's just nice that Carl is talking about something and not trying to push a meth on people, which is good. Listen, leave the meth to me, all right. I do. Trust me. I do.

meth out around here. You certainly are. Danny. Have you done what? Meth? Yeah. It's great. Oh, okay. I was like, why you talk about it all the time? Do you want to or have you done it? Danny, do you never listen to this? I know, right? I do. I just got, confused. It's all good. I've talked about it a few times, but it's fine. That's fine. Yeah, true. Sorry. Do you think a person's teeth are natural? like that? Oh, shut up. You know what I just remembered? I forgot my mom watches the show. Hi, Mrs. Hamburger. Hi, Mrs. H. Nice work. Great time at the Jazz Fest on Friday. Good job with this one. No wonder. She likes Grant so much. No shit. Oh, shit. All right, Danny.

Thank you for that wonderful story. Yeah, thank you, Danny. Make sure you are following Danny on Instagram at Danny Desolation. And for more updates on the tops that she buys. Yeah, true. Danny, you're the best. Thanks for being on. Thank you. Love you. Bye. Bye.

All right. Wow, that was Astoria. And then, like, somebody deflated a balloon. Just all over the room. All right. Are we ready to start our competition this week? I don't know. Do I have to listen to you talk? Yep. I won, so I will

first and this week we're doing creepiest it's wild card any letter LGBTQ plus 2a any letter of the alphabet i guess is what we're doing today and uh i'm going to present to you arthur gary bishop also goes by roger downs or lynn jones out of salt lake city utah those are some interesting alienuses alias yeah i know roger downs yeah that seems like the name i would pick if i was playing a special Olympics athlete. Let's learn about my creep, Mr. Bishop, this week. Here you have four years terrorizing the community, trying to figure out, is there a monster or a series of people out there

that are monsters that are killing, kidnapping, and disappearing our kids. But in the end, it was the man next door. Arthur Gary Bishop had several aliases, including Roger Downs and Lynn Jones, beginning with a 1979 murder of Alonzo Daniels, Bishop lived near all of his victims across the street from the grocery store where Danny Davis disappeared

near the bowling alley where Kim Peterson disappeared in 1980 and in the same neighborhood where Troy Ward and Graham Cunningham vanished in 1983 damn fuckable kids that was Carl that was Carl H-A-M-B-U-R-G-R-G-R It's their fault! It's their fault

for being so darned fuckable I mean, look at this kid. He's wearing a cowboy hat. He's just teasing it. He is. So, fortunately... I'm a little cowboy. Fortunately for Salt Lake City, they eventually caught up with Mr. Bishop. And, yes, he did confess. He asked Jeff, how long has Roger been abusing you? And basically he said my whole life.

Bishop was then questioned about the relationship and confessed. Not about Jeff, but the murders of Cunningham and all. the other boys. I'm glad you caught me because I couldn't stop and I would go do it again if I had the chance. This was pretty dramatic. I've got to tell you that this was, this was pretty amazing. Bishop took the detectives to where three of the bodies were. Alonzo Daniels, Kim Peterson, and Danny Davis were buried near each other in a remote area.

Bishop dumped the bodies of Troy Ward and Graham Cunningham in Big Cottonwood Creek. Their bodies were recovered in a log jam. Oh, God. There's a beaver, damn. There's a beaver with little boy's leg. Oh, Carl, here's why you just lost this. Why? Well, you lost this very simply because your guy...

I didn't even presented my case yet. What do you mean? No, you lost because your guy shows remorse. Oh, well, hold on. Your guy is like, thank you so much for stopping me and saving me for myself. Oh, stop it. Hold on. This guy's a creep. Bishop was a former Eagle Scout and belonged to the Big Brother organization, but he was also a pedophile. In a 1984 interview with ABC4, Bishop knew he had a problem. That I tried all my life to please him, and I couldn't approach him with a problem like

saying, hey, I don't know what to do about this. He was eventually convicted of aggravated kidnapping and murder and sex abuse, and he was sentenced to die. So, good. Here's the deal with this guy. He didn't want to get caught being a pedophile. So the best way to not get caught is just murder your head. Blackmail your wife and tell her your kind of say it was her? No, not Eso. No, not Eso. No, no, no, no. He actually got caught, and it's a jail now.

Good. Alonzo Daniels was four years old, but Bishop lured him into his apartment with the promise of free candy. You like candy, a little boy? After attempting to sexually assault Daniels, Bishop took him into the bathroom, hit him on the head with a hammer, and then drawn him in the bathtub. He then followed the boy's dead body and mutilated his genitals after he was dead. Right.

As one does? I mean, is that guy dead? Next up, Kim Peters. So Bishop was going to sell roller skates to little Kim here. And they're talking about, oh, I got some skates out in my car because they're at the roller rank. And he's like, oh, yeah, come with me. And as Peterson's running in front of him, he pulls out a 38 caliber revolver and shoots him. Doesn't kill him.

Peterson starts crying, eh, I got shot. So he comes up and shoots him twice more in the head. He then molested Peterson's corpse, mutilated him in a fit of anger, and buried him next to Alonzo. Dan. What do you got to be angry about other than the mess? Oh, he's just like, there were never any roller skates.

Stop being so impatient. Just trying to fuck your asshole. On October 20th, 1981, Bishop lured a four-year-old Danny Davis from his supermarket to his home a half block away. After playing with toys at Bishop's house, Davis got bored and started crying.

You know, four-year-olds. I want to see my mom again sometime. So Bishop's like, well, you're being really fucking noisy and I'm in an apartment. Like, the neighbors are going to hear this. So he plugs the boy's nose and puts his hand over his mouth and just suffocates him to death. Hmm.

Yeah. There were some other boys coming over to his house because he liked boys coming over. So he just put the body in a couple of garbage bags and placed it in the corner of the kitchen. No one was the wiser. Well, I mean, if you live by yourself. Yep. After murdering Danny Davis, Bishop vowed to never do it again. You know what?

I've killed too many. I've been to the mountain. That last one was just too good. It's too much. However, two years later, June of 1983, Bishop abducted a six-year-old Troy Ward while the boys waiting on the corner near his home for his mother to return from the store

with ice cream and cake. Sounds like it was going to be a good time. It was his sixth birthday. Happy birthday. At this time, he's going by Roger Downs. He took Ward to a bungalow and asked him he wanted to play a game. Ward's like, yeah, it's my birthday,

I want to play a fucking game. That sounds awesome. So Bishop handcuffed him. This is how this game is played. Yeah, yeah. Tied him between two pillars in his basement and pulled his pants down. When Ward began to cry, Bishop hit him with a rubber mallet

until he was silent. Bishop put Ward's body in a trash bag and tossed him into a stream in the big Cottonwood Canyon. It's a lot easier than burying him in the desert. One month later, July, 1983, 13-year-old Graham Cunningham. Oh, he really went after an older one this time.

Yeah, he was set to go on a trip to California with his friend and his father. So, Bishop, picked up Cunningham, hey, we're going to go to Disney. Let's go, you know. He's all excited about it. He tricked the teenager into going back to his home, pick up some marijuana. Hey, I got to grab some weed.

I sell weed. You know, maybe you can have some, too, if you want, whatever. He knows, you know, little kids like candy. Teenagers are like drugs. Yeah, he definitely knows what he's doing. Then he asks Cunningham, do you want to pose for some photos? And he's like, yeah, I'm a pretty hot kid. I'll pose for some photos.

I've always thought I could be a model. I'll give you a skateboard. He's like, yeah, all right, I'll do that. So after he posted these photos, Cunningham was like afraid. I'm sorry, Bishop was afraid that Cunningham was going to tell on him. So he hit him in the head with a hammer a couple times. Took him to the bathroom. This guy with the fucking hammers.

Drown him, disposed of the body like he did wards. Feeling the pressure of the interrogation, Bishop told detectives he wanted to show them something at his house. When they arrived, they found more than 300 photos of young boys, some placed in a white wedding album. and 125 pictures of naked boys cut from magazines. Police were able to identify and interview 21 boys he photographed and molested. In a wedding album. 21 boys, he photographed and molested. But Bishop said that their estimate was low

and to double or triple that amount for a more accurate total. Back at the station, police managed to obtain Downs real name and eventually got him to confess to all five murders, as you just heard. He was set to be put down in 1988, lethal injection. After his conviction, this is what he said, I am a homosexual pedophile convicted of murder and pornography was a determining factor in my downfall. Oh my God. Somehow I became sexually attracted to young boys and I would fantasize about the naked. Certain bookstores offered sex education, photographic, or art books that occasionally contain pictures of nude

boys. I purchased such books and used them to enhance my masturbatory fantasies. Finding and procuring sexually arousing materials became an obsession. For me, seeing pornography was lighting a fuse on a stick of dynamite. I became stimulated and had to gratify my urges or explode. All boys became mere sexual objects. My conscience was desensitized, and my sexual appetite entirely controlled my actions. Oh, okay. So this guy just sees some fucking kid in a Haynes commercial.

Yeah, and it's like, pop, I just ate a can of spinach. Oh, yeah. It never goes right to his board. So that's my creep. Vote for Carl, Arthur Gary Bishop, who is a gay pedophile. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Well, Carl. No, I'm not reading my own diary.

Well, I hate being able to see the chats. You know, when I'm over at the comedy club, I oftentimes can't see what people are saying in here. Which is probably for the best for you. Yeah, seriously. A bunch of jerks. No. Don't you talk about our listeners like that. Carl, I would like you to show my first picture.

Oh, did you send me? pictures. I have the Scum Parade folder. It's in there. It's in there. Open that folder. Excellent. Very good. Yeah, number one, please. That's helpful. I was going to ask you if you said pictures. I'm glad we figured that up. Yeah, I guess I should have labeled them more clearly other than Vinnie's picture of his

creep William Bonnan. Shut up. Jesus Christ, everybody. Fuck you. This is William George Bonnan. He was born in 47 in Connecticut. Now, he was the second of three boys and his parents were very, very drunk. individuals. He looks like Mersh. Does his eye

tried to wander over to the other eye, it looks like? Oh, he definitely has a wandering eye. Yeah, okay. For boys. He's definitely a very, very gay man. Now, his dad beat his mom up in front of the kids, and he beat up the kids when she wasn't around. So dad was just swinging on everybody. Nice. He was also a degenerate gambler, their dad. He was an alcoholic, he said? Yeah. Mom was too. Mom had terrible mood swings. She ditched the kids for bingo halls most nights. would hang out at the bingo hall.

You know who doesn't fight people? Whom. People on LSD. I can't stress this enough people. Just take acid and chill. From what I understand, they're just coming everywhere. That's the story I just heard. Wild.

So when she did find child care for her kids, when she was at the bingo halls, she would call her dad, who was just a prolific chomo. Okay. Who was just figuring all the little boys. Oh, boy. and not a great way to grow up. Yeah. Now, here's the sad news.

We're ready for some sad news. When he was three years old, by the way, the family lost the house because his dad gambled it away. I had pocket twos. I couldn't go wrong. I had the deed to buy a house. What? I like people who gamble like that. They're retarded.

So they lost the house. The mom's gambling. Everything's a mess. He's getting. essayed by his grandpa and beat up by his dad. Labrard Mystic thinks this actually is a photo of Mersh when he's a child. Striking resemblance, one for Tuky's Pick Vault. Oh, yes, Tuki, please feel free.

They used to do that bit looking at pictures of kids. Anyway. Now, in 1953, they sent him to a Catholic convent school in Lowell, Massachusetts, where the nuns beat the hell out of him from misbehaving. And when he misbehaved, they used to make him punch a tree till his hands bled. How's a tree doing? Fine. Tree's okay? Trees fine.

Okay, good. His hands weren't great, though. All right. So one day, he decided to play a little trick on another kid at the school. He played the same trick you just told me about, the old tie-up game. You want to play a game? It involves handcuffs and be fucking your butt. Yeah, here, let me just tie you up, and that's what he did.

And then he butt-fucked another kid. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. And he got in trouble for that, but here's the thing. They would try to call his parents, but his parents never visited or answered the phone. Yeah. He actually thought as a child living in this convent place where he was assaying the other boys that his parents were dead. He thought they were dead.

He just lived there till whatever. Sure. Then one day, he ends up in 1957 back at home. His mother had to take custody of him for some reason. They kicked him out of the school, sent him home. And he got in a bunch of trouble for stealing hubcaps and plates. And they sent him to Juvie. Okay.

So he goes to Juvie. And guess what happens there? Does he have sex with boys? Yes, his counselor starts molesting him. Oh, oh, it's not... Yes. Not that he invited. Well, I don't know what's going on with this kid.

He seems to be into it. He seems to be into it. Fair enough. So he gets out again. This time he starts molesting his younger brother, Paul. Okay. And his mom finds out about it because Paul was a tattletail. Now, by his early teens, bonded and...

You know what? I'm going to say this. I hate tattletails. Yeah. I talk about this all the time. Tell and Tell Tells suck. If your brother's molesting you, I think that's worthy. Yeah.

That's a time when you probably should tell mom. Yeah. All right. I'm going to give him a pass on this one. But you were so mad at Grant when he told. You know what? You've gone too far. Okay.

I'm sorry. All right. You've gone too far. All right. I'm sorry. I'm kidding, buddy. Okay. So he admitted to his mom that he's like way into young boys.

He felt shame for it. And his mom knew that this was going on and they were fighting constantly because his mom was drunk and she didn't really care, but she was worried that her kid's going to get arrest, and the pedo kid is going to be at her house. So he literally, in 1966, was running around. He dropped out of school just molesting neighborhood kids. Really? Yeah.

That's a thing you can do in 1966? Apparently, he was just running around having free rain. Like, hey, kid, come here. Could you imagine in 2026, you can't find a fucking kid who's unattended? Good. I mean, it kind of sucks with, you know, the helicopter parents. but I guess like a guy like this would be like yeah there's no one to fuck her out here this sucks back to the internet yeah back to my discord server oh boy Jesus Christ so it's fighting out how to make a bomb the mom

finally throws him out again she pushes him in December 66 she's like she's like hey you get on weight last time we smell your dick is that boy poo all right you're out of here buddy I told your dick can't smell like shit ever again the mom really did try to fix him. I guess maybe trying to make up for being such a piece of shit to him in his childhood. Sure. She forced him to do two things, Carl. Okay. The first thing was join the Air Force. Okay. And then she found him a girl, a lady named Linda, who they somehow arranged a marriage between these two, even though this guy is very, very gay for little boys. Yeah, he doesn't want Linda. He does not want Linda. No. He marries Linda because they think it's going to cure his attraction

to boys. Why wouldn't they enlist him in the Navy? Wouldn't that make way more sense? Yeah, the Air Force, man. Oh, well. But there wasn't a war going out at that time, so it was probably fine, right? No, no, Vietnam was happening.

Oh, Vietnam was happening at that time. We're going to get to his time in Vietnam. This is quite the story, kids. So not a good time to enlist in the Army, people. During his engagement to Linda, before they got married, he kept telling her that he was having nightmares about raping and murdering women. Okay.

And I don't think that bode very well for them, but they did get married. They did consummate the wedding before he went off to Vietnam, where he served as an aerial gunner. Nice. Shooting women and children from the helicopters. That's a fun gig. 700 plus combat hours, a medal for saving airmen under fire.

Dude, long before video games. Like, you can't experience that except for if you are in Vietnam, gunning down women and children. This is great for this guy's psyche. No, I know. I've been really good for him. Yeah, it's great. we should definitely send all of our young people overseas to murder people.

I think that works out really well for society. They'll come back very well adjusted. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, just sitting there like, oh, there's a family. The children are the hardest to hit. They're fast, but let me tell you something. I got 9,000 kills.

Wow. No. Here's the problem. During the 1968, TED Offensive. I can't believe they found a cross-eyed guy to be a gutter. I know. Vietnam was a shit show, wasn't it? What a shit show that was.

Hey, we won World War II. What else can we do? Nothing. It makes me shoot better. I wish we would have quit when we were ahead. Could you imagine if the U.S. just like, hey, we were pretty good at World War II, and we never talked about military ever again? That'd be great.

Dude, we would be riding so high. Unfortunately, we're fucking losing Iran. We lost to fucking Afghanistan. We losing everyone. Yeah. We stink at this. Yeah, we should probably stop doing, invading other places for no real reason. We have a better chance of winning the World Cup than we do.

of winning a war ever again. That's what they thought about the gold medal at the Winter Olympics and hockey, Carl. That's true. Was it a miracle on ice? Sure was. So, back to this child rapist and killer. During the Tet Offensive in 1968,

it later came out that he raped two fellow soldiers at gunpoint. Oh, because he had the gun, yeah. Yeah, yeah, he had a gun and he was like, hey, covered up his face and, like, got them alone and fucking held them down and I mean. Other soldiers.

That's not good. Guys he's supposed to be in the cockpit with. That's a problem. Had his cock in them. I don't like that. It's probably not great. So he actually ended up after those dishonorable discharges. He ended up getting an honorable discharge.

Oh, good. And he went home to find out that Linda had his son. What? But dumped him and left with another guy. Okay, good. But also, the guy's gay and he's knocking up broad? He fucked her before he left. Yeah, but, I mean, you should know how to pull out.

Either way, she was having a good time without him. Good. Good. No, he has to go back and move into his mom's house, scarl. And he starts borrowing her car and driving around. But she, like, got cleaned up and stopped drinking probably, right? I'm sure she was paying real close attention. In 1968, he was just driving around.

He met a little 14-year-old boy named Billy Jones, and he asked him about, like, hey, you know what gay is? Happy? And Billy was like, I don't know. And that's when our big Billy here pulled out a gun, made the kid get in the car, drove to a parking lot, handcuffed him, beat and a ard him, and then dumped him off at a park. Soar butthole and all. And the kids just hit it and rubbing his bottle. Like, what happened?

What just happened? The mom called the cops. Today was a bad day. Yeah, the mom called the cops, obviously. Yeah. And over the next two weeks, he did this to at least three more boys. Same deal, rides, pulled the guns, secluded spot. Okay.

Uh, arid their bees. And then a policewoman in El Segundo saw him with a very terrified looking 16-year-old in the front seat of the car. Okay. And the kid was like signaling for help. And so the cop pulled him over. And what do you know? Congratulations. He has been captured.

Yay. He was arrested. Dicted on five kidnappings, four sodomies, oral compilation, child molestation, and whatever other crimes they could get him for. Now, they gave him a psych evaluation, and they described him as a sexual psychopath. Oh, my God, I'm going to kill these people. Who is messaging you right now? Do they not know that you're the host of the creep off? No, I'm using my fucking iPad.

Shit's coming through. Sorry. So the psych eval says he's completely crazy, but they think that he has a treatable mental disorder. Oh, yeah, yeah. Isn't that great in California? We'll get him right. We're going to fix him. We'll put him right back on the street.

So he's out in 1974, Carl, five years later. So he driving the ice cream truck? What's he doing? Hanging around parks. Perfect. Where he grabbed a little boy's penis and got sent back. All right. Only for another year, though.

But he was out again by 19. All habits die hard, don't they? They sure do. That's an name of this episode. And October 78, he was out and he told all of his friends like, hey, listen, man, I'm never leaving somebody to testify again. Nobody's ever testifying against me again. Same thing with my guy.

Yeah. You know what? I actually have audio of the time that he saw that kid in the park. Oh, please. Let's see that dick. Sounds like you. That's not right. Anyway. But, you know, here's the good thing, Carl. By 1978, okay. He was ready to settle down. Okay. Can you find my picture of Vernon Butts? Vernon Butts, yes.

Yeah, he met a nice fella and they became lovers. Oh, yeah, he's a Great looking guy? Not really, no, Carl. This looks like a riffraff from Rocky Horror. Well, he's not washing his hair, but, you know, bankers can't be choosers. Yeah. Well, Vernon Butts is a part-time birthday party magician.

I like the word part-time, as if you could do that full-time. Another long day of being a magician at birthday parties. Of course, it's part-time. Part-time is two words, fuck-o. He also claims he was a wizard And at night he slept in a coffin Oh neat Yeah

It was quirky Yeah they fell in love I like him he's quirky Yeah sure is They fell in love And Bonin said it was like They belong together Yeah

Now it turns out that a crazy Attrax crazy As we all know from the show Because Vernon really liked How Hot Billy got for little boys Sure And you see The enabling that would now happen

Oh boy It turns out to be quite the bloodbath, not just for their beholes for their lives. You see on Friday and Saturday nights, there's a picture of a van in there. Yeah, pull up the van. They would cruise around in this sucker.

Nothing creepy about this. Nothing suspicious here. Moving on. This is the stereotypical van, Carl. We are looking at the windowless van. The windowless raper van. Yeah. And by the way, a giant bag of

skittles in the back. Huge. Who likes Skittles. They actually would open up the back doors and just throw them out so the kids would start chasing it and then they'd stop real quick and the kids would run up close and he grab them. Ooh, a piece of candy. Ooh, a piece of candy. What? There's a net. They got a big butterfly net.

So on Friday and Saturday nights they would ride this van on the freeways. They'd pick up young hitchhikers and runaways. Inside, they would get tied up beaten and raped by Bill while Vernon drove. Oh, you know what? I've seen these videos. This is the whole series on Pornhub.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this is very different. Is this like the bang bus? I was thinking bang bus. This is very different, actually. What you're describing is actually very, very different than what I've seen on Pornhub. I take all of that back.

None of these kids sign waivers. They're not into it. Like, these chicks they pick up on bag bus. Yeah, and they did that smart thing that used to confuse the police back in the day. Whenever they'd pick up a kid, they'd pick them up in one count. and then drop their corpse off in another county. Sure. But Vernon.

Because the cops have to like come to a screeching haul to the county. They turn the cars. They're like, fuck. It's as far as we can go. Damn it. Oh, we'll never find that little boy's body now. They're in Monroe County. That's someone else's problem then.

Now, Butz was in on at least nine of the 21 murders that happened from my guy. 21 young men murdered by my guy. All right. Let's start with Marcus Grabs, who was a 17-year-old German backpacker. All right. This guy named Buts and a guy named Grabs. Are you just making this up? Did Chet-G-T write this story?

Not at all, actually. No, not at all. Petey Pervert, who was also one of the victims. Hugh Jasshole. Oh, man. So either way, this poor kid was 17 years old, and he was stabbed 77 times with an Ice Pick. That sounds painful.

Yeah, Ard and dumped in Malibu. A few weeks later, a 15-year-old named Donald Hayden got grabbed by near the gay community center in their town where they hung out. And around 1 a.m., his new body was found on Ventura Highway, strangled, stabbed, and obviously Ard. Bonin kept a scrapbook of what was being dubbed in the media as the freeway killer because he knew a lot about it, you see. Right.

And, you know, when you know about these things and there's like a big news story happening, people casually talk about it. But they don't carry around a scrapbook telling people. Nah, it's kind of a giveaway. Do you guys see this? Do you guys see this article here? I believe that that is what we like to call around here a... Dude, he would go around telling people at the gay community center that he hung out at, that this freeway killer is giving good gays like us a bad name.

True. It is true. We're not going to be able to get married until there's a black man in the Oval Office at this rate. By 1980, Bill started recruiting other horny young men to go out cruising with him, Carl. Okay. Apart from Vernon. I mean, horny young men. I mean, isn't that young men is, I think you can just say that, right?

He promises him drug in a good time. Come out with me. Hang out. Let's go. Gregory Miley was 19. James Monroe was 19. And 17-year-old William Pugh. All were accomplices to murder because of William, uh,

my boy Bill over here. Okay. On February 3rd, he was arriving around with Gregory Miley when they found 12-year-old James McCabe. He was trying to get to Disneyland. Oh, Disney's so magical. Yeah. Instead, he ended up getting raped by an adult man and murdered and thrown in a dumpster. I mean, that could have also happened to add Disneyland.

Fairness. They crushed his neck with the jack handle from the car. Okay. Yeah. Not great. Then, and 14-year-old Henry Todd Turner, was killed in March. Bonin and Butzler, 19-year-old Darren Kendrick from a supermarket with a fake drug deal,

sodomized him, and then forced coral hydrate down his throat, which is a pretty bad chemical to have in your mouth because it burns you. Yeah. It burned his mouth, his chin, his chest, his stomach, and they strangled him well, his face and esophagus were being burned from the inside out. I think I'd rather be sodomized. Yeah, well, get a little bit... I mean, if those are the two choices.

I'm not saying that's my preference. Whatever you say, Carl. I know. Whatever, you know, whatever works for you. How long is this story you're on for, do you think? A little bit longer. Jesus Christ. The last murder was on June 2nd, 1980. I'll forward for you.

Last murder, thank fucking Christ. They picked up an 18-year-old kid named Stephen Jay Wells at a bus stop. Wells was a little bit of a hustler. He agreed to have sex with Bonin. But instead of paying him, he tied him up, robbed him, strangled him, raped him, and then threw his body in a cardboard box behind a gas station. But he wanted to fuck. He didn't have to do that.

Correct. That's why I made sure we brought that one up. So mean. Now, 17-year-old William Pugh, one of his little accomplices, one of his little buddies that was hanging out with him. A couple days before that last murder, he gets busted for car theft. And they're like, you're going to throw the book at you, kid. And he goes, hey, what, I get off a little bit easier if I told you who the freeway killer was. Smart. And they're like, actually, yes, you will be.

You guys ever a scrapbook? I got a fun one. Look for the guy carrying the wedding album. Oh, wait, that was your guy. Cops started surveilling our boy, Bill, and on June 11th, they followed his van. He tried lowering five boys into his van during this time while the cops are following him.

Wow, brazen. He got a 15-year-old kid named Harold, no last name, to accept a ride, and then drove to a secluded lot, but the cops were following him. Now, the cops are just like, let's wait this out and see what happens. then they start hearing screams coming from the van. And let's just say they caught him red dicked.

Because he was balls deep in this 15-year-old when the cops kicked open the van. What seems to the problem, officer? The kid was like screaming for his life, like, wha! You know how quick you go limp when a cop shows up? Yeah, this kid thought he was just getting a ride. Like he literally thought he was getting for a ride and he pulled the gun and dragged the kid in the back, tied him up, had knives back there. Oh, boy.

All sorts of fucked up shit. Now, Bill gets arrested, and this kid, Pugh, had already told him about these other ones that were involved. Vernon and Monroe and Miley. They all end up getting arrested and agreed to testify against Bonin to dodge the death penalty. But our pal butts the part-time birthday party magician decided that, you know what, I'm going to do one last trick. And he hung himself in his cell to avoid having to do any of it. Oh, that's a fun magic trick right there. Yep.

Make the pito disappear. Now, Bonin through all this denied all of it. Sure. Then victim's mom started writing letters to him, begging for information. And eventually these letters got to him. And he said, listen, I'm not sorry for any of this, but I am very embarrassed that I got caught. Sure. And if you didn't catch me, I want you all to know.

I would be out there still doing this. It would be great. I would be having the best fucking time if it wasn't for you assholes. But let me tell you something. I'm going to tell you where your kids are. And you know what? I'm going to tell you what I liked about your kids. And to one of the moms, he said, your son was my favorite because he was such a screamer.

What an asshole? He wrote this in a letter to one of the mothers. The defense said, this guy's clearly insane. And he's like, no, I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm great. I'm fine. I love my wife.

So he ends up getting sentenced to death row. Cool. They end up murder him in 1996, but while he was on death row, he painted, he wrote stories, and he was buddies with a bunch of other murderers like Randy Kraft, who I covered in episode 218, and a couple other ones. And he would continue to write the victim's mothers with no remorse, refusing to answer their questions as to where a lot of their children were, and he kept kind of taunting them until he was dead.

Friendship is so important, you know. I'm also going to tell you, Carl, that he may have had the greatest, the greatest last words ever. Okay, what are those? When they said to him, hey, listen, what are your last words? He says, well, capital punishment isn't the answer. Capital punishment isn't the answer for this. And he said, I would for office that. I would suggest that what a person has a thought of doing anything serious against the law,

that before that they do it, they should just go to a quiet place and think about it seriously. P.S., I'm not sorry. and then they killed him. That's my creep. Holy shit. William Bonin. Thank you, everybody. Please vote for Vinny at the creep off.

Can you start doing less prep for this fucking show? Nope. Holy shit. All right. Anybody's still awake? Let's talk about what's going out of the chat. Oh yeah, vote for Carl. Because Minnie's presentation was went out way too long.

Carl's was a bunch of video clips. It was video clips and then I read stuff. Savory Side Salad became a YouTube member. Thank you very much for that. Hello, savory side-tale. We have Skyler Clark becoming a YouTube member. Welcome to the party. He's unpaid staff.

Another rigged poll by Carl. I'm telling you. Fuck you. 1%, huh? 1%? Lever Mystic was late last time. You get those super tips of any? No.

I haven't looked at super tips because I'm over here. By the way, the reason we're in Carl's basement today is because about two hours before the show, I just started hearing loud saws and jam. back hammering. Yeah. And it turns out they're on the roof, practically over my office fixing something. And it is so loud. They're going to be up there for, like, two days.

No respect for the creepom over there, comedy at the carlson. So fucking loud. No respect at all for us. Shit wasn't going to work. So, but he's like, I got to come over to your house. And I was like, shit, I got to hide the bodies. What's over there? No, it's over there.

It doesn't matter what's over there. Okay. What does that smell? I farted, all right? That's what that smell is. Hmm. Labyrinth Mystic Gifted Five. Who are these podcast memberships?

He's the king. Thank you, Evermistic. I appreciate you very much. Christian Blatt is here in the chat. Gross. He's been loud. For five bucks, he says, Rookie, don't shit where you eat.

Everyone know you find kids in a different area code. I mean, love the show, boys, 23 hours until WATB. For these broadcasters, it'll be on Tuesday. Regular time, 2 p.m. Check it out. Carl aborted me meth fetus.

I miss you, dad. You really dodged a bullet, kid. I didn't do meth bag, though. Kid dodged a bullet the way I see it. I didn't do that. Levermissick. And the show has reached a new low. I think I have that drop for you.

And the show has reached a new low. Retro Ryan D. Tony Hinchkiff plus the water boy. Oh, yeah, that guy kind of does look like. Oh, good pull. Tony Hinchcliff mixed with the water boy. Good pull. Cross-ides needs more ammo to get those hits.

That's true. He's actually a detriment to the American War effort. But you imagine, they're like, yeah, you're the gutter. Like, it's a joke. Would you rather have the cross-side guy flying the helicopter just shooting everything? That's a good point. That's a good point. Biddy, what happened to using flip-flopped?

Yeah, you've gotten away from that. I'm hearing ard a lot. Yeah, I don't know. I'm a little off the wood panelings a lot to deal with. I don't know if I can watch this show anymore. This month got too creepy. Jesus, guys. I'm legit bummed out. I know this show's a bummer sometimes.

Good news, everybody. We're going to get back to creeps, the normal style of creeps next week. In fact, you know, we'll have a little pallet cleanse next Monday. Sounds good. You know, we have the 4th of July coming up. I might be off on Friday. Yeah, I am too. I actually have to, unfortunately. Perfect. I'm in Florida.

So we're going to be back on Monday with the Great American Scum Parade for everybody. Excellent. It'll be a nice time when we have a nice palette cleanse before we get back into the competition next. We need to talk about this. This show is not for everyone. We realize it. That's why we have to laugh through it. Otherwise, it's pretty awful.

Black guy says, even I think Vinny's setup was too much. Yeah, Christian Blatt thinks that you're talking too much. Christian Blatt thinks you're talking too much. I feel like the atrocity needed to be highlighted. All right. You ready for a little cop cam action?

I couldn't be more ready. I can't wait to see calls. Cockcam. Fight with the cops. For no reason. Will you please show me Cause Cockham Lose all your rights

Ruined your life. Richard Lucas was five bucks And I love Danny's love pillows. We love them too. Danny, are you listening back there? Getting some love. Oh, sweet. Thank you. God. She really does have a nice pair of tests, doesn't she?

It's wild. Anyway, not the point. The point is Alex sent me in this cop cake. How do you think she won the whole thing? I know. I remember. We had some good candidates.

Yeah. For results, girl. Talented. Very talented candidates. And Danny was our winner. Go figure. So this one comes in from Alex, and there's a little disturbance going on in the street. Vernon butts, everybody.

On July 20, 2004, officers were dispatched in reference to a domestic disturbance. What? You talk about it? Goofy ass What's going on? Hello? Hello? Could you give me a second?

Bye, goofy. Drunk ass. That's why you get by everybody. That's why you get by everybody in that leave. How do you know her? That's my sister. That's my sister. You don't know her?

She didn't fuck you earlier? That whore? My sister? Yeah. That's why everyone fucks you, Lee's you, you drug bitch? Oh, that's my sister. She's cool.

That's the best. So, this woman, who, by the way, the woman who's in the middle of the street yelling a lot is the victim. But you wouldn't know that, by the way that she's behaving in these clips. Yeah. Did you guys? No, it ain't my story, huh?

Did you? Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Stop, stop. I'm sick of your dumb man. That's right for you. Hey, back up. Back up. Who was that?

Who was that? Who was that? Back up. Back in the morning. That was a bigger shit. Stop. Stop. Stop.

Stop. You up right now. They don't seem to care of the police officers are in between them. Sisters. How does that song go? I don't know, but these two... Never have I met such devoted sisters. These two want to pull some weaves out.

That's all they're concerned about right now. So there's a cultural thing here, Carl. There's a cultural thing. Where some people like to yell at the top of their lungs, as close to someone's face as possible. And it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be violent. It's just how they communicate. And I think these two are ready to be violent.

I think these two are pretty ready to be violent. Not necessarily, Carl. Let's see what happens. Well, let's see. Can we stop them from fighting? I hope so. I got two of all right. Listen, there's no reason for that.

So stop. You! That's why you bleeding. Do it. Do it. Nope. Nope. I'm going to tackle this bitch.

I know you're not like a big NHL guy, but sometimes like, These guys want to fight so badly that they'll punch over the linesmen who are trying to break them up. I've seen it. The fuck out of my way. I got to punch this guy in the face. Like there's a cop in between them. Like, fuck that.

We're fighting. Don't give a shit. Yeah, their feet were off the ground. They were still swinging. Yes. It's hard to do. So, listen, I'm sure they have different fathers, but they are siblings. You know, they should try to get along.

They should try to find common ground because, you know, that's what mom would like. And as the children that they are, it becomes a she started it match. Perfect. She came to my house. I don't give a shit. You don't often tell you to back up. You don't get up on his bag and try to swing at her.

He didn't say back up. She didn't. Move, man. Stop. Move. Stop. Move. Not moving.

I'm not going to stop. How am I antagonizing when she was antagonizing? Can you move? I need you to sit down. Okay. Yeah, I'll sit down. Thank you. Okay.

Well, she, like I said, She has a very interesting way of communicating, but she's being kind of reasonable. These are children. You don't say. Both of them are being children. And the way that they act around police officers, it's like, the statistics say they get arrested more often than white people. Is there a reason for that? Hmm.

I wonder, because this woman who's the victim? Any answer that isn't the patriarchy is going to get us thrown off of YouTube when you ask questions like that, Carl. No, no, no, no, no, you're right. institutional racism I know so the cops are trying to make sense of what the fuck is going out here I don't know what her problem is she who she fight their sisters their sisters yes their sisters and this sister here had all her shit out here in the drive in the street okay she never went up there she never walked out i'm assuming they're kicking her out that's what it looks like obviously as you guys get here this girl comes charging up

the driveway and tries to attack herself. All right. So the police are taking this loudmouth side because she was attacked by her sister. Sure. Running down the driveway drunk and throwing haymakers. So I... It's stone cold.

I actually dislike the victim, I think, more than the perpetrator. Sure. I can definitely see it going that way. She is a brat. Oh, they were the ones fighting in there. Stop, stop. Stop. I'm getting my shit.

I need your information. You don't need your shit. Yes, I do. You're going to go to jail. Okay, take me to jail. I don't get to jail. Why do you want to go to jail? I don't care.

Move. Out of my assail. I mean, we don't want to take you to jail. Can you just, like, give us your ID so we know what the fuck you are? You know, the cops take people to jail all day fucking long. Yeah. It's not a big deal for them to take you to jail. They will do.

And they're just, if a cop says, don't make me take you to jail. They're giving you it out. They're going to fucking. take you to jail. They don't just say that. They have reason they can take you. Just say, okay, what do you need to know? No, this woman is defiant. She is

not going to give up her name or her ID. No way, no how. Then you go to the P. Okay. Just give us an ID. Take my shit. Take my shit. I'm arrested. Just give us your first name. I did!

One more time! I gave it to you three times. I'm not giving you shit. Nope. Shut up. Lock me up. What a fucking child. What a little baby. I told you my first name.

You didn't listen. And I'm not going to tell you again. And no, I don't have an idea. Lock me up. Take me to jail then. Okay. Fine. All right.

Well, this woman, like, goes over the top with, like, trying to get thrown in jail. Can you come here? She just loaded her stuff for the cruiser. Can you step you? Are you putting in my shit? And you're talking out. You just asked me. You said you can arrest me.

So arrest me. You put him in my shit where? Okay. Do it. Come here, please, miss that. I'm going to move his truck. Ask him. Give a time three times.

Ask him. He's asking for it. Different officer. Oh, okay. How do you spell your last name? I don't know. She might not know how to spell her last name in her defense. All right.

So she's literally like, please arrest me. Please arrest me. You guys just arrest me. I'm putting myself in your car. I want to go in the car where you guys please arrest me. find it like, fine, bitch. Yep, you're under messed. Yep, thank you.

You're welcome. I gave it to him three times, what the what the fuck you need for? Ask him for. I did. What did you come out? All right, Mushmouse. Yep, taking my shit. Lock it up.

As you've seen, she attacked me, just like she did in the house, which is why I got my shit, and I left. I told you all shit. I told you all everything. I told you all shit three times. and you're acting like I'm recording. It's like a scavenger hunt or get arrested is one of the things you have to do.

She seemed like she wanted to get arrested so badly. I think the cops aren't a scavenger hunt for her fucking name. Dude, just tell us your name. I told you my name. I know, but it's unspellable. So if you can please just sound it out phonetically or something so we can figure this fucking thing out. Wow.

All right, last clip. You don't know how to spell washing? He asked me. Dess. Now he asked me a question, bitch. Stop, stop. Make me shut up. Make me shut up.

You're going to jail. Okay. Never care. Never care. Do it. Lady, just be nice. Your dumb sister will go to jail, stupid. Why are you going to jail?

You're just getting to see your sister there. So fucking dumb. So unnecessary. Just decided I want to get arrested today. Like, all right. Cool. Like death by cop. I understand like you're suicidal.

That's one thing. But like, insist that you get arrested. It's so unnecessary. The amount of problems that it causes you down the line for that you don't have to deal with. You could just walk away. So unnecessary. What would have been more satisfying standing there with your bags watching your dumb sister get hauled off to jail?

Yeah. Isn't that the win? That's the win. Take a little photo with your phone. Texted to her later. Ha ha, ha, bitch. You know, whatever you're going to say. There you are with your bags.

your shoes that you were looking for, just having a nice afternoon. Stephen Bravo gift today. Who are these podcast membership? Thank you very much for doing that. If you got the membership, you know, we do two bonus shows every month on this channel on who are these podcast channel. And I just did a crossover with my buddy Dick Masterson. Oh, by the way, I asked him about Weight Watchers.

We did a crossover event. It was great. Thank you. And he insists that we'll be back to Weight Watchers soon. Good. I hope he's doing okay. I feel like Dick's just been a little overwhelmed. He's a little overwhelmed.

You know, he's a dad. Yeah. To a young lad. I got to tell you. Trying to figure it out. Of all the people that I've known in life that are parents, the one I'm the most surprised at is a father as Dick. Yeah.

And every time I'm out in the world and I see any type of marketing towards a child, now I immediately think, ah, Dick's going to have to deal with that. Yeah. Like, I see commercials for Toy Story 5. And I'm like, dude, there's a day where Dick's going to have to go see Toy Story 7. Yep. And then he's going to talk about his podcast and no one's going to listen. We don't care.

Let's just make fun of fat ladies. Yes. It'll be great. Get back to the womanizing. Abnai. My name is Mrs. 1980s. Whoopi Goldberg.

Is that true? I don't think that's his actual name, but I think that's what he's referring to the woman as. I see. I see what happened. Weren't you in Ghost? Oh, you were a burglar. I remember you. Mr. Paulino.

What? I'm going to tell you. you something. What'd you do? I don't have a voicemail stinger. Oh, you had one. You sent one to me for our voicemail sign. This is so exciting. Why do you always think I'm going to fuck everything up? You always act like I'm going to fuck everything up. Everybody thinks Vini's going to be the one who fucks it up. I didn't look at anything you sent me at a time. Bro, I just had

a situation with a comic. Yeah. Who wanted to do stuff for the festival. And I was like, sure I ended up making the art for their thing yeah getting writing up their everything for them doing everything only for this person to completely back out and go no it's not what I wanted to do it that way and I'm like well what are you talking about we sent you everything to go I didn't look at it literally told me they didn't look at it and I you uh never gonna see you again goodbye so you want to there's the door you want to punch a hole through my face right now don't you know

you want to take that all out on me I bet no but it was just so triggering to hear that Again, sorry. Just like, why doesn't anyone look at what I said? Because Vinnie, I prepped for the show on Monday mornings. And then I drive to the comedy club and do a show with you. When you throw a fucking curb ball at me and go, hey, Carl, you're hosting. It fucks me up. I didn't have time.

Anyway, little, little. Two bucks says, she didn't give her name because she had a warrant. I was thinking the same thing. But then why does she insist on getting arrested? Give a fake name, if that's the case. My name is Patricia Lloyd. Amanda Huggin' Kiss. Yes, I'm an Irish gal.

Peggy O' Flynn. All right. Voice mail time. The creepoff voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse. Two Syracuse area restaurants have failed their health inspection due to mice droppings. The rest have yet to be tested. See you in Syracuse. Dude, I'll tell the story.

You know Trada. Yeah, over here. Yeah. Docks myself near my house. Trada. before the pandemic. So they've totally rearranged the whole place now. But it used to be like this big bar in the middle of the area.

Wasn't the creep off born at Trada? Oh. Didn't you and I have a beer there and discuss this whole thing? Isn't that where the creep off was born? I mean, I think you called me first. But yeah, yeah. Then we sat down and had them eating at Trada. Okay.

So I'm hanging out of Trada. Birthplace. A big old bar, nice little restaurant here. And I looked down. and there is a baby mouse that is struggling with life and I go on that's not great

hey buddy got a dollar for a drink that's not great in a restaurant so I tell the bartender and he didn't give a fuck he's like well do you want to do something about it it's like fine and he finally he came over

and he pulled out a flute and I'll just started running out of the trick he grabbed it with a napkin and threw it outside Just like, weird. Were you supposed to do that? I don't know. Like, what was my responsibility in that? I'm not sure.

Anyway, I still eat there. Let's see what's going out of the voicemail segment. Howdy, this is Lieutenant Boston Brown Bread, original real guy. Fuck you, Vinny. Anyway, is the reason there is not a Discord server for the show because you're worried about what people would be posting.

Anyway, that's all. Don't come to school tomorrow. Oh, but there is. If you go to the Who Are These Podcasts, Discord, server there is a whole channel devoted to the creep off it's called the the creep off that's correct and here's the thing about that the reason we have it on the who are these podcasts uh server there is because we are worried about what you're going to put on there correct because i'm worried about it yes we don't want to be associated with that yeah but have fun on there i watch i read it all the time yeah yeah it's a

fantastic thread that's going on so you can check that out and it's free to join who are these dot com there's a link to our discord server and a lot of fun things going on on there, especially if you like talking about how I like poop. If you enjoy discussing my appreciation for eating poop, you'll love our Discord server. It's nonstop. Yeah, lots of videos. It's wild. Did you guys hear?

You know, when I went into podcast, 10 years ago, I decided to take up a little hobby. Oh, I'll start doing a podcast. Never was that I think there'd be a day when there'd be videos being made of me chowing down on feces. Uh-huh, uh-huh. posted on the internet. Because you didn't think people would have cameras or? It's AI, asshole.

None of these are real. Those were AI? Yes. They were all AI. I guess people didn't have cameras. Dude, do you think I get showered and wet poop down here? The cleanup would be ridiculous.

I guess I did put a new carpet. This brand new carpet down here. Yeah, I guess that is probably suspicious. Now I'm eyeballing you. I mean, you're fucking wearing a German soccer jersey. Deutsche Land.

I'm sorry for being confused that you might be into the Scot. playing Paraguay today at 430 in the first knockout round of the tournament. You're very excited for that. We were discussing that jersey. I think that jersey is pretty good looking. I do too. I've worn it in the long time.

I bought it in 1992. That still fits, huh? Yeah, it was their European Cup jersey in 92. They won the World Cup in 1990. I have that jersey, too. Shut up. Who cares? Let's go.

Did you guys hear about the guy in Rochester that got his hand cut off pretty recently? The video is out, and it's pretty gnarly. you should check it out or I can send it to you. Well, friend. Yeah, we covered that on the bonus show on Friday. That's right. If you have not seen the images of the gentleman whose hand was chopped off in Rochester and left to bleed on the sidewalk and die,

the craziest part is that they reattached it. Yeah, doctors were able to put it back. That's what the article said, but they said that the hand wasn't at the scene as well. I don't understand. Was it Luke Skywalker? Like, how the fuck do you put a hand back on? I don't know. I didn't know that was a thing.

Cight string? My wife was talking to me about this She said, you hear about that thing? I was like, yeah, we covered down the creep off. She didn't realize that the reason why his hand was caught off because he was touching children. Well, that's the story. That's the story.

They're not releasing the guy's name and they're not saying anything else at the moment. But what we believe happened, sir, was some old-fashioned hood justice. Yes. Which, listen, the cops don't want to go there. So someone's got to lay down the wall. Mm-hmm.

One more voicemail. Hey, boys. Podcast, prophet here, Holy Spirit, and possibly some white claws are speaking through me right now. So I was thinking about it. I was going to start a Special Olympics

football team, and I was going to name them the fourth downs after mine. Any whoodles. I got like a creep in the wild, or maybe it's just an asshole in the wild. I was at the store in line, the lady in front of me.

First, she pays with cash, which is like, come the fuck on. She's going through her fucking change purse. checking out of the exact change. It was like, oh, fucking hate people like that. Then she got out of line. Oh, I forgot something. To go get something else.

There's a special place in hell for people that fucking do that. It's like, you don't have all your shit. You're getting out of line to go grab something else. Then you get back to the end of the fucking line, you cunt. Anywhole, thank you, fuck you by. Isn't it funny? So I'll date myself again. I just mentioned I bought a jersey of 92 that I'm wearing right now.

I'll date myself again. I remember a time when people would pull out their checkbook in front of you would lie and you like fuck you are you kidding me that doesn't happen anymore thank god saturday morning shut up i was at weggs it wasn't the checkbook okay i was gonna say it was it was so fucking infuriated there was this old lady who was questioning the price of everything there's three registers open okay they all people had giant orders and the other ones and this lady had like 10 things so i thought i'd be safe yeah everything no i don't think that's right well let me look they called somebody to go check a price.

They did the old school thing. But here's what pissed me off through all of it, right? It gets to the end. She says to the person, what's the total? And they said it was like 37 something. And she goes, 37, 65, okay. Then she takes out her purse. It says, just one minute.

The entire time we're sitting there. She could have gotten her wallet out. She waited to find out what the total is. Check the total. It's 220's. Hold on. Then she pulls her purse out. Every fucking thing in the world is in her goddamn purse.

She's digging through this thing and there's receipts. There's all the shit. Then she's pulling out of 20. That she's like six, seven. And she's counting out. Then it was time for the change. She did have the change. She had the change, Carl.

Minnie, this happened to me just recently, and it hasn't happened in years, where a woman, just like podcast prophet was saying, literally pulled out a change purse and started counting coins. Did you slap it out of her hand just to hear the jingle of all the change fly across the floor? No, because I wanted to not be arrested and be on the creep off with you. Dude, I would slap it out of her hand and then buy her groceries just so she doesn't call the cops, because it would be so satisfied. It would be so satisfying.

Fucking stop it! Who are these fucking assholes? Could you imagine carrying change on you? Do you know what our money's worth? Nothing. Do you remember what change was worth something? I do. It was a long time ago.

The only thing change is worth is to throw it cars. Do I... I don't want to... I don't want to... I don't want to... Big time people. But yeah, change sucks. Fair enough.

What do we have going on next? A little scum parade? Yeah. You got some music, don't you? I do have music for our scum parade. So the first story I want to do, Carl, might not be just one creep story. It's more of an overview on a situation that's happening in Pittsburgh this week. You see, July 2nd through the 5th is the 25th, or I'm sorry, the 20th anniversary of Anthrocon.

Carl. Please show my first image from that. That's right. This is the furry festival, Carl. So Pittsburgh just celebrates pedophiles, and they're proud of it. Oh, whatever. That's cool. You do you, Pittsburgh. Do you want to hear some insane stats here? I do. They're

projected to attract more than 18,000 attendees. 18,000 of these pedophiles show up for this? I know we have listeners who are furries. I'm kidding, of course. You're the good ones. I'm just saying the vast majority of are hoping to have sex with young boys.

They expect to generate over $18.6 million at direct visitor spending from this festival, Carl. You know what's the crazy thing about furies? Like, these fur suits or whatever they call them are expensive as shit. Yeah, that's true. These people have money. That's true.

This year's convention is titled Critters, Cryptids, and Curses. So whatever that means to you, if you're planning on attending this year. I don't like that. And a highlight of Anthrocon, 2026 is the annual Fursuit Parade, Carl. There's a parade. Scheduled for the 4th of July at 2 p.m.

America's 250th birthday. All right. If furry has candy, do not let your son follow him. This sounds very dangerous. The parade will be gated inside Hall C of the convention center, proceeding on to 10th Street,

before routing back indoors to Hall D. Immediately following the parade, the Antircon block party will take place. And they've also here's a fun fact. In May of 2026, Lowe's hotels a company signed a letter of intent to build a 500-room hotel

physically attached to the convention center where this fucking thing is held every year. Because this is such a money-makers. Like, we need to build hotel rooms right next to this thing so these furries can fuck each other as fast as possible. Yeah, furry sex is the stinkiest sex. Because of the suits.

Yeah, can we agree on that? Yes. So I have a kind of. Consequence idea. Oh, shit. I wasn't ready for this. I have a consequence idea. All right.

Furrycon, but the costume you wear has to be a woman with big tits. You can't be an animal. You have to show up in a human costume. Jessica Rabbit? Sure. Just to confuse them. I'll be Jessica Rabbit. Just to confuse them.

You're not an animal. What are you doing? I think you'll freak them the fuck out. That seems like it's too much work. I have another idea. Okay. So Pittsburgh's all proud of themselves And they have this like

Furry convention Yeah, they're very proud of it I'm going to start In Rochester, our hometown of Rochester here The Jeffrey Epstein Convention Epstein con I mean as well If we're going to celebrate pedophiles

Let's do it the right way We'll all stay at the island It'll be all themed It'll be fun flight logs I'm very busy that weekend Carl I'm sorry You know when I think of Pittsburgh I think of

Mario Lemieux, Cindy Crosby, Ben Rothlisberger. How about, well, he's a rapist? How about Terry Bradshaw? Terry Bradshaw, right, the Iron Curtain. Yeah. I don't think of furries. Pittsburgh was like, is this great? We're like the fucking furry capital of the world.

Like, keep that shit on the DL, Pittsburgh. What are you doing? We're proud that these maniacs are going to be walking down. It's the 4th of July and they're having a furry parade. If they had a decent baseball team, I don't think they'd be resorting to this. They can't feel nine guys You can hit Oh no

That's the problem These guys hit for a lot of teams Oof So Carl I have another story for you Let's move on to a story In England Carl Okay

This is the Newcastle Emelan swimming pool I believe this is my picture four Picture four You got it buddy This is a lovely neighborhood In Wales Forgive me

Now there has been a problem here And you can show The next picture Is of the pool Okay It's a beautiful pool It's a nice community facility Carl. I think anybody would be proud to have this

in their town. Yeah. I could do probably one lap in that pool. Yeah, sure. Maybe half a lap. Sure. A half a lap. All the way on. You could probably do that fun thing where if you go around the side, you get the whole thing moving around. I'm not a strong swimmer. Really? I thought you with those feet, with those webbed toes.

They're not webbed. Toes. Huh. Well, they're nubby. They're more nubby. But I assume that there was some webbing happening. No. No, no, no. can you go back and have him add some webbing? It would make them more useful.

Yeah, you know what? I should have. That would have been very helpful because I'm not a strong swimmer. This pool would eat me. Do you do doggy paddle when you get in the pool? Do you just like, I do the whatever back thing I can do? It's the laziest way to swim ever. I just lay in my back and just do this a little bit.

Jesus Christ, really? Yeah. Really? Well, did nobody teach you when you were a kid? No, no one taught me when I was a kid. And then we had a pool. in our school. Did you have a pool when you went to high school?

Yeah. Okay. So they opened it like my junior year. I didn't have it in my whole high school career. Dude. Our school, our middle school, junior high actually, got moved into the high school the year that I went from junior high to high school. So I was in the same school for how many years is that?

Six years. And there was a pool in that school. So every fucking, like every quarter in gym class we'd have swimming. And it sucked so much. Yeah. I fucking hated it. I bet. Yeah, because, you know, you already got a small dick, so that's not great.

Sure. The shrinkage. Yeah, right, exactly. I mean, how many different ways can you fail, Jim Carl? Man, you can't swim. See, I'm a great swimmer. Are you? Because I was a fat kid. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, kids love it. You're naturally buoyant. You're just floating around. You can spin her out. You feel so light. Yeah, but we had to do the laps, though. And you had to do a different swim stroke, each lap that you did? Did you have to do that?

Yeah. Yeah, it sucks. I hated it. It's fine. I don't like it. Okay, well, whatever. Hope you drowned. I would literally, so I could swim, but they would literally, like, they had to do the laps,

and all of the kids would, I would, they'd put me on first, they knew how slow it was. All of the kids would go while I was so going through my laps. It took me all class to do six laps in the pool. Okay, shallow end. It sucked. Old shallow end hamburger, everybody. Sucked so bad. Yeah, well, you know, it's good.

Good that they had you start first because you're always just a little bit ahead of the beat. I'm going to murder you. I'm going to murder you. Settle down, shallow end. Boy, that's a fun new nickname that I hope sticks. Either way, let's get back to this pool. I will be in my pool a few days from now. Like I said, hope you drowned.

Between November of last year and May of this year, they've had a couple of problems, Carl. Okay. You see, someone keeps shitting in the pool on purpose. Opie goes here? Opies at this pool? It's in Wales. I don't think so. Okay.

So check this out. Between February 2nd and May 21st of this year, 18 days of swimming were lost due to contamination. Dude, if someone's shitting in the pool? Yes. You ever shit in a pool before, Vinny? No. I threw up in the pool on Memorial Day once and everybody was mad at me.

I'd be mad at you too. I really felt bad. Why did you vomit? Well, I jumped in and like we were fucking around and I got a mouthful water. I came up and it just happened. Yeah. It was the most embarrassing thing. Oh, that sucks.

Yeah, dude, it was like chunky hot dogs too. I ruined Memorial Day. So you swallowed it, you didn't inhale it. I've inhaled water in a pool before. Maybe inhaled, it's the best way. I didn't go up and go, like I just, I ended up in the pool and water went right down

and I came up puking. I've never shit in a pool before, but it seems like it'd be fun. Like if you didn't give a fun? I would never do that. I wouldn't want to be in the water. It's basically swimming in a toilet bowl at that point Because when you shit in your toilet bowl

It's water with shit in it You're just floating in a toilet bowl at that point I guess it depends on how wet the shit is What do you mean? It's how wet the water is It's all the fuck What are you talking about? The water is very wet it turns out It's 100% wet the water

That's true What's the due point The closures led to refunds canceled bookings And a drop in visitor numbers As swimmers stayed away Carl And pool workers became increasingly alarmed by the frequency of incidents and spent hours trawling through

CCTV footage in a desperate bid to catch whoever was responsible. How could they not see the... How much you just put a camera on the fucking pool? I mean, the 14th time it happened in May, you dumbasses? By the way, how do you clean that out just like more chlorine? They got to dump the whole pool.

We got to put a lot of chlorine in this pool. Someone just took a shit. Yeah. They empty the pool and then they have to have somebody fucking in there... Just like they didn't caddy shot. I was going to say, one of the great seeds of candy shack. Of course, Bill Murray eating the Snickers bar. So I got that going for me.

So the police eventually solved the incident and realized it was just a 19 year old kid playing a prank. You know, this fucking idiot. You couldn't stop after 17 times. He got rid with it 17 times. I'm shitting in pools. No one knows it's me. He had to go back for that fucking 18th

shit. And they're like, got you motherfucker. You know what I mean? If you look here, you could see the floater. Pop up over the water right behind the defendant, Your Honor. Case closed. Fuck that kid. What an asshole thing to do. Could you shit while you're walking? I think like a horse. Yeah. I don't think I could. I think anybody physically could. Could. Okay. Because I'm wondering. The question is, why would you want to? Well, because the reason why I asked that is because would he be shitting while he's swimming or do you have to like stop for a

minute. It goes through the process. I think you got to stop. Yeah. I do too. And just kind of let it happen. Right. And then do you pull your swim trunks down?

Do you let it like pop out the bottom and then do you throw those out after first? I've seen those videos of people in the supermarket when they have to shit and like they shit and then it just goes down their pant leg and they do the old leg shake it out. Yeah. So maybe I don't really know how you do it. Do you ever see that video? Back when I worked at E-Bomb's world, it was very popular. This pretty hot chick gets into a hot tub with her friends. and just has diarrhea immediately.

And she starts crying. Yeah. And the whole tub fills out with brown water. And I was like, wah! Running out of the hot tub. The old brown Betty. Bam, lamb, bam, bam.

Betty. That's what I was thinking of weird. Yeah, it's pretty fucking gross. Carol, stop talking about this. Good call. Yeah. And me now. Good call.

Yeah. All right. Okay, well, don't shit in pools, kids. That's your summer tip. Don't shit in pool. Let's go to a place that we're very familiar with, Carl. Flint Township, Michigan.

Everybody Nate lives there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's show my next picture. I believe it's of a doughy little boy. Oh, it's a young mini Paulino. Hey, look at that. Pictures of kids is coming back again. This is a Tuki soup.

This is Casper O'Brien, Carl. And it's a fitting name on account of he's a ghost now. Oh. Is he friendly? I don't know. It's friendlies. The case began to unfold on November 4th of last year When a 911 call was made for a young boy in distress

At a Flint Township home He was rushed to the hospital and he died Okay Prosecutors charged 40-year-old Damian O'Brien And his wife, 41-year-old Jessica O'Brien, with second-degree murder following the death of Casper You see, the boy was only seven years old, 50 inches tall and weighed 255 pounds

Holy shit That's crazy 255? Yeah this kid would have been on a show. Carl, I weighed 255 10 pounds ago. That's crazy. This kid weighs 10 pounds more than I do right now. That's insane. It's too bad because he would have been on like Discovery Channel or T.Mory or something. He would have been on Mory. They would have been a buffet. He would have had the barf. He's seven years old. They would have made him still wear the diaper. But that would have been fun.

So wait, seven year old kid weighs 255. People give Nick Rakeet his shit for giving his daughter. her coke. She's not obese. She's pretty skinny. You know what I mean? What do you want? You want an obese kid who dies in seven or do you want a popular nine-year-old? Popular nine-year-old. That might end up being the name of this episode.

She's pretty cool. Boy, this is a fucking sad story. They showed up at the house with a report of child in distress. He was taking to the hospital. He died a short time. after the cause of death was dilated cardiomyopathy, which caused heart failure with the contributing cause being morbid obesity. Listen, that's not true. I've heard of these body positive podcasts,

and being overweight does not link to any issues with your heart or health concerns. It's good to know. Yeah. It's good to know every day that I've been on the treadmill for fucking the last two years. It's, boy, I feel, is there egg on my face, Carl, because I'm embarrassed for myself. It's insane. What the fuck?

A doctor said the CDC lists a healthy weight for a seven-year-old boy who is 50 and a half inches tall ranges between 1573 pounds. Yeah. He was 5x. That is obesity. Five-X. Did not have a pediatrician and was only taken to the doctor one time according to records. They rolled him in. Layton said the father had a good job and the family had...

Dupa-du-a-du-dip-de-do. They're pushed their rolling this kid into the doctor's office. What do you get when your kid is dead? Eat as much as an elephant eats? That's that actual lyric. Yeah. Not even clever. Layton said the father had a good job, and the family has health insurance.

Nice. The morning the child died, they even call the veterinarian to have their dog treated. So they are, like, proactive with the dog. Just not with the son. Dogs you can unconditionally love. I'm so mad that this article does not. not tell us. Little meatloaf over here? I don't know. I'm so mad this article does not tell us how fat size the five-year-old sister is. There's a five-year-old sister. We don't get the weight of that.

Come on. These kids did not exist in the eyes of the government. CPS has never been out there. Nobody knew these kids existed and they had not been to school. You know, I really feel bad for this kid's friends. What friends? I'm kidding. There's no friends. It's good. I feel bad for his kids' friends, too, because he never shared snacks. I'm going to stop hanging out with Billy. He's all the string cheese. The owner of the house stopped by concerned, believing the house was falling into disrepair.

The couple wasn't letting him into the house. That's a fun story. But this is just a weird family that kind of kept to themselves and obviously didn't take care of their children, but took care of their dog. But we also don't know how the five-year-old is doing. The five-year-old could be great. You say they're not taking care of the children,

but do you think this kid ever went to bed hungry? Do you think he ever wanted Doritos? They're like, no. Carl? You ever have Pringles for dinner? No. It's awesome. You're an adult.

It's a joke. Have you ever had... Pringles are a snack before dinner, obviously, and after. What's that movie with Dom Deloise? Fatso, did you ever see that? No, I haven't. It's a classic. Yeah.

You have a sucked of jelly out of a jelly donut and fill it up with chocolate ice cream. It's a pro move. Yeah, that's how you do it. Either way, this kid used to use Doritos and I use ice cream as a dip. Yeah. He's dead. I feel bad for this kid. I make you jokes only to stop myself from crying.

That's right. But they deserve prison. We're very empathetic here on the creep off. Yeah. So one more story, Carl. All right. This is Amy Stedman and her grandkids, Carl. Oh, what a happy family.

Nope. Oh. You see. Grandma likely poisoned and stabbed the grandkids and their daughter in an horrific upstate New York murder suicide. The grandma was found dead alongside her daughter and four grandchildren in her upstate New York home. Appears to have poisoned them all. All right. So if you feed your child too much, they die.

If you feed your child poison, they die. Like being a parent is very difficult, right? Can we both agree on that? Our parents did it right, kind of. I mean, here I am. My teeth are fucked and I have a meth addiction. But other than that, I came out pretty good. We better finish this up before this.

DT start. No, I did some, I did a line before he came over. Oh, good. A handwritten note found at Amy Sedman's home strongly suggests that she was involved in the deaths of the children. Harper Harmon 13, Hudson Harmon, 11, and 10-year-old twins Gavin and Graceland of Mechanicsville, New York. One of the children was stabble. The others appeared to have been poisoned, possibly in a rage, over the fact that their father who lived in Utah was getting custody. So she decided despite the dad by murdering all the children.

Which is funny, but there's a place called Mechanicsville, New York, and Bruce Springsteen's never in a song about this. I drove through Mechanicsville. Missed Opportunity, man. This is the most blue-collar town possible. Pass the grandkid graveyard. See, the song writes itself. Mechanicsville, New York.

Bruce, get on it. Don't drink the Kool-Aid in Mechanicsburg. Mechanicsville, whatever the fuck it is. It doesn't matter. She recovered evidence from inside the apartment indicating intentional poisoning to include numerous prescriptions and over-the-counter medications. Evidence recovered during the investigation included a handwritten note and other circumstantial evidence says she basically did it. The relatives had been dead for an extended period of time by the time that they were discovered, and they were too badly decomposed to responding officers to immediately identify them. You see, Stedman had allegedly grown resentful after her grandchildren's father, Brady Harmon,

who was recently granted two-month custody of the kids. Two-month custody? Was that a trial balloon? What are they doing there? I'll give you two months and raise you eternity. Let's see how that works out for two months with these children. Come back to us. It was supposed to start next Wednesday.

I guess it's not going to start because the kids are all dead. The dad, who hasn't seen the kids since before COVID, was excited and preparing for their arrival at his house when the cops showed up to say, all your kids are dead. They sent a singing telegram to soften the block. You're singing telegram. All right.

That's a great story. Not great. The police said the investigation remains ongoing and will take a considerable amount of time to get right. But the good news is there's not really a time good strain on this on account of they're all dead. I think we're more like Monty Python's flying circus. We do bits and pieces, bits and pieces, bits and pieces, bits and pieces. That's a good one. I felt better listening back to Dabbleverse Live the other day.

Okay. When you and Blind Mike were talking about when you brought up how upset I was that you stole the Artie Fletcher bit for me that I thought I was going to have a thing. Yeah. Like I could come by like every couple of weeks. Sure. I thought we'd have like a whole fun arc together. Yeah. Where you and I could really have a good time with this?

You even told me. Because I don't do a lot with the WATP. I know. And you even told me that you wanted to do that. And I was very excited to do it. Yeah. show, which is great. Doom, great work. The great doom.

Yeah. And Mike said you are a very greedy boy when it comes to your local house. Mike's just like how you started bringing woke dad to the Drew Lane show. Like, oh yeah, I guess I did that too. You're not very good to your friends. S3340985 says, Vinny, can you tell one fact about Ardi's life for 250 Serbian diners?

Dinarz. Dinarz. One fact about Arty's life. Yes. His mother, one time on a phone call, and I never told you this story on WATP, and I was saving it for WATV, but you could fucking kiss my ass now. I had to call over there one time, and there was a whole thing going on, and Artie was telling me about how he was taking a girl out on a date, and his mother was very mad at her. They were in the house, and they were, like, fighting, and I heard his mother go, you're nothing but a whoremonger, Artie. A whore monger? Yeah, she called him a whoremonger once.

There's a fun fact about Arty's life. His mother thought he was a whoremonger. How old was Artie? He was living with his mom and Gallagher. He was in his late 50s, early 60s. That's insane. Gallagher would sleep on the couch and Gallagher

also would fight with the mom. And he would tell me, I hate that bitch. That's hilarious. By the way, that whole... How did Gallagher fuck his life over so badly? He must have made millions of dollars. I don't know what he did.

But he also... Well, I guess his brother ripped him off, right? He would claim to me that he had so much money in the stock market. All my money's in stocks. And then he would tell me about... Another Suttering John thing. But he would also tell me about how he had all these patents. And then he got robbed for the patents.

And I told him, that's how he ended up telling me the Ninja Turtles thing. Okay. That's so insane. I used tolling the Rots to the teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. Gallagher's crazy. Till the Yakuza stole them from me. I miss Gallagher so much. Dutty is a fruit cake.

He was a treat. did you hear though we played it on wATP this weekend with christian blatt uh the mike kelta saga yeah that's hilarious i need to have a conversation with patrick melton yes we did the time i i want and also my buddy mike kelta you know him and i are good bucks okay well can you put that bonus episode together can we just get mike kalta patrick melton and i want to get it on this because i want to hear these i want to hear the story um patrick melton and mike kelta hate each other oh but okay so get so get colta Get my calta.

Also, Patrick Melton's dead. So I was just to get Mike Kalta. Oh. It's dead. Okay. I hope he's okay. Can you die of a broken back? Yes.

Actually, you and I were talking about this the other day. His spine has got to look like Hulk Hogan's in that x-ray from his documentary. It's probably worse. His spine looks like a question mark. It's not good. He needs to get help. He needs to get that ship fixed. We love you.

We love your, buddy. Feel better. I mean, seriously, bro. love you. If he recovers in time for Hackamania 4, that would be great. Oh, I ain't going back to that. I ain't going back to that? Is that what you just said? I'm just fucking how dare you. All right, kids. What a great tie we had today. Make sure you go to patreon.com backslash the creep off and vote for Vinny this week. Let's tie things up and make this a competition.

Everybody knows Carl's a loser, just like Germany. Germany's going to win today. Vinny. What? It's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Gagia. Gagia. See on Monday.

I keep hitting this thing and it's not working. And the show, asshole. I keep hitting the outro video clip and it's not doing it. Oh, I got to just do this. I got it now.