The Creep Off - Episode 334: A Mother’s Lament

Episode Date: October 12, 2026

Karl & Vinnie are back to find out who is the creepiest couple. Plus, a brand-new edition of Karl’s Cop Cam and a fresh Scum Parade featuring a creepy pediatrician and a woman who went to great lengths to become a male nurse. Join us live and let us know who you think deserves the point!Don’t forget to vote for who brought the biggest creep at patreon.com/thecreepoff.  Check out this week’s scum parade stories here: Sheriff: Improperly-equipped vehicle driven by double amputee kills pedestrianBluffton man charged with buggery after sexual activity with family dogTexas woman allegedly took child to pedophile doctor to have sex with in return for medsTransgender nurse charged with horrific abuse of premature baby in his care that left infant with bruised tongue, cops say | Daily Mail OnlineThe score is currently Vinnie 3 - Karl 2 – Guest 0 Want more of the madness? Support the show on Patreon, Supercast to snag exclusive merch and get an extra bonus episode every week!Don’t forget you can leave us a voicemail at 585-371-8108You can follow our results girl Mahalia @mahellllyeahYou can follow our Results girl Danni on Instagram @Danni_Desolation

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I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive, and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo! Coooo! The creep off now 100% drama. Ducing thing. Ola! Creeples, welcome to another episode of your favorite true crime podcast. This show about creeps, buy creeps for you, creeps. I'm your host. My name is Vinnie and joining me in studio. It is my co-host and my best friend again.

It's Carl. What's happening, I'm pretty, Paul. Good to see you, my friend. How you doing, man? I'm fantastic. Thanks so much for coming out. You and your lovely wife are at the iced-ed-up show this past weekend. What a show you guys put on?

It was a lot. There's a lot of work. And we picked a bad weekend for me to have a lot of work to do because everyone's hopping on Shulis show and everyone's fucking talking about this lawsuit. And I'm like, I got to record more jokes and get the guest musicians all up to the space to rehearse. You had so many moving pieces on that show. I was very impressed. Did I hear a lot of new stuff?

Yeah, a lot of new stuff. We put out a new album. So, yeah, it was a lot that we were building up for. But now, now that Toronto's out of the way, Detroit's out of the way, the 10th anniversary show is out of the way. I got my weekends back, buddy Okay, so check this out I need to discuss part of the show with you Please

Okay My wife and I are hanging out We're staring at this projection that's up to the right Up on the stage and You know, a long time ago Carl You told me something on the show And I didn't know if I believed you

But then I saw something In one of those videos And I have to ask You told me you used to have an Asian girlfriend Was she in one of those videos? No Oh, that wasn't that really really super hot girl No

Well, I mean, she was very attractive, but no, it wasn't one of the chicks from that video. Oh, okay. You should have lied. I should have lied. You totally should have just lied right now. I don't know which age the girl you're talking about now. The one where they were fighting? Oh, she used to be in our band.

That's Tari. Oh, dude. She used to be a dancer in our band. Oh, my God, the fucking tits on that chick. I was like, Jesus Christ. I was standing there and I was like, that better not be the girl he dated. I would be so upset. Yeah, she was really hot.

Yeah. Okay. Vinny, today is Columbus Day. A day my people really appreciate. Yes, it's a big day because if not for Columbus, no one would even know Rochester existed. You know what I mean? That's a solid point.

So I'm really thankful to Christopher Columbus. Last year, we didn't do a show on Columbus Day. Why is that? I don't know, but I went to the Sabres game, and as I was getting out of my car, I just saw that the Sabers just started their game at 1 o'clock. I was like, oh, fuck, last year at this time. I was at that game.

And now here I'm at work. Oh, wait, we're going to fight again. But I'd rather be here, maybe. This is way better. The Sabers stink. You know, Carl, I'm glad that they stink this year. That does make me feel better. So thank you for bringing that up.

So last week, we had a pretty different episode. We'll call it a one-off. We both brought the same creep. The creep segment was who's the biggest creep named Tom Myers. Turns out we both put the same guy. Yeah. Shocker. One of the chances.

So I believe that's technically called a push. Okay. Cool. Well, that was fun. That was a really fun episode. I got a lot of good feedback on that one. Oh, yeah. We all did.

Yeah, it was good. Tom Myers is really a piece of shit. I've striking our channel. I fucking hate him so much. And do you know what he told? He actually doubled down on his how much money he made tweet later in the day. Oh, did he really? What did he say?

You know what? I'll have to look at it. Yeah, I want to see that. That's fucking funny. I'm not going to have time to pull it up, but I'll read it to you. Tom Myers talking about, well, I had the copyright strike you because then people wouldn't go and watch my stand-up special. I make money from people watching my stand-up special.

You don't, and people aren't going there to see it, and no one cares. I apologize for the accounting error made by me. I actually made 38 times what fuckface Vinny made on his stream about me, and I didn't have to wait until the 21st of November to get it. I regret the error. Ugh. A retard. He's no idea how to shit talk.

You really talk. It's so stupid. I said to him, I learned one thing from MLC. You have to show like your W-9s when you make claims like this. You have to show papers. Let's go. You can't just claim money, Tom. Let's go paystuffs, baby.

And, you know, you don't really have. to because I don't care, Tom. I just think you're a doofus, and I'm still waiting for the invitation for your show. No shit. Send him the link. Your anniversary is over now, Tom, with your fake girlfriend? You got time to talk to Vinny now? I sent him the link on Friday's bonus episode, and then he sent a response to, like,

what's this? Which I didn't respond to. I'm a reason. You want me to send him a link right now, too? Sure. Yeah, of course. All right. Today, we have a very fun show planned for you.

It is Creepiest couple. Yeah, the way that this show works is each week, Vinny and I bring the biggest creep in a certain category. We present who we think is the biggest creep and why. You then make a decision. You go and vote Patreon.com slash the creep off. We tally those votes. The winner gets a point.

The first person to five points in a round wins that round, and the losers will spin the dreaded wheel of consequences. Vinny is currently in the lead three to two in this round. Of course, last week was a push, so we're not moving any of the points today. I mean, we could both, you know, bump up a point. And I could go to four. No.

I don't think that's a good idea. Link is sent to Tom, everybody. We'll see if he shows up. Come on over, Tommy. That'll be fun for everybody if he does. Give everybody a treat. Jerry Banfield came on here and everyone loved him on the show. They all voted for him.

Yeah, but, you know, Jerry is likeably crazy. Tom is smarmy and is doing the worst Bill Maher impression I've ever seen. Nothing likable. And you're right. That is a Bill Maher impression. He's like Bill Meh. He stinks. Just like that joke.

It was worth more than what I gave you. I don't know. It just flew out. He stinks. So today's competition, creepiest couple. You technically won the last time we had a competition. So that means you are going first. Would you like to ring that bow and get it started?

Vinny, if you can pull up a photo of Gerald and Charlene Gallego. I sure can, but I'll show you this lovely couple. Perfect. Hold on one second. These two are a problem. But when I want to dig in. is their origin stories before they met and became a couple. Because it's actually fascinating what happened with these two idiots.

So Gerald, his mother was a prostitute. And when he was born, his father was in prison. He was born in 1946. In June of 1954, Gerald's father had escaped from prison out of California. That's definitely not who we're talking about. Yeah, she certainly isn't. Oh, boy. But you know what?

We got it. It's all right. It's all good. Why is this one opening? Okay. I'm sandbagging you, Carl. There is. There is a spouse.

Sorry. Leave that up there. I am. So that's Gerald. Born in 1946, 94, his father escapes from prison in California, makes his way to Mississippi, where he murders a police officer.

And he gets convicted of that. While on death row, he had another inmate bludged a corrections officer to death, and escaped from prison. So there was an extensive manhunt that happened on March 3rd, 1955, at age 26. Gerald's father was executed in the gas chamber at Mississippi State Penitentiary, becoming the first person in the state's history executed in such a procedure. Yikes.

So they told Gerald like, oh, your dad died in the car accident. Oh, that's too bad. I never got to meet him. Yeah, he ran into a lethal injection. Right. But then he found out when he was 16, they're like, actually this is what your dad is. He did the research. It's like, Jesus Christ, my dad's a lunatic.

Cool guy. I remember how I felt when I first found out of all my dad's like crazy shit. I was like, fucking pretty rad dude. I thought when we did the episode about your dad, I was like, this guy's interesting. I'd play poker with this guy. He sounds fun. So during his formative years, he's growing up, his mother, you know, she has multiple boyfriends. She's got these Johns coming over because she's a hook.

Booker and the Johns are physically abusing Gerald. Some of the clients are sexually abusing him. At the age of 10, he was arrested for his first known felony offense, robbing the neighbor's house. Two years later, he sexually abused a six-year-old girl, which resulted in him being sentenced to a youth facility from which he was released in 1961. Yikes. Not good. He's been married five different times before eventually meeting. And see, Charlene.

What the fuck? Like, that's the thing. Women like really fucked up men. They do. But remember that story we did on here a couple weeks ago where the guy was in prison, violent crime, had a phone, had a dating profile, this woman falls in love. Oh, you're getting out of prison today? Come on over to my house. Immediately just murders her.

Yeah, she just had one good night. You know, nice guys do finish last. I think the guys who complain about that, all the insides we complain about that are right. Which is why we're not nice people. But he and I made a decision long ago. We went, I'd rather have pussy. Anyway.

Fuck yeah. So, he married five different times. When he was 17, he married a 21-year-old woman, and they had a daughter together. He married a 21-year-old when he was 17. Yes. That's pretty rad. I know, older women, right? And Gerald sexually molested and orally raped his daughter, as well as one of her friends

over approximately seven years. Huh. We'll get into that more later, but. Do we have to? Let's talk about Charlene. on her 18th birthday, she married her first husband, who was a United States soldier. But then he got sent off to West Germany. And so it was annulled immediately.

So this is Charlene? Yes, thank you for pulling that up. There she is. She's a very interesting story. She married her second husband two years later, who was also a soldier. She really wanted a threesome. So she kept asking the guy like, hey, can we like get a prostitute? She wanted to have, you know, the good kind of threesome, the FFM type.

And so she's a great chick. She's cool. We're going to learn that she's pretty cool. Okay. So this husband's like, this woman's enamored with lesbian sex and this is like the 50s. So he's like, ah, I'm not into it. I've got to get this brought a ring. So then she married, they got divorced and she married this like mama's boy and got bored with him immediately.

So they separated. And then as soon after, she embarked in an extramarital, extra marital affair with a married man. but this relationship ended after she asked whether the pair might have sex with his wife. She's like, hey, this is a lot of fun, but can your wife get involved in this? The three of us can do us. She keeps trying to get. It's like the plot of one too many. She keeps trying to get a threesome going.

And these guys are like, ew, gross, two vaginas, four boobies. See, John, this is how you act on a poster. You don't have to look too excited. You can just look kind of cool. So after that breakup happened with the guy that she was sleeping with, she attempted suicide. Whomp. Not long after that, she met Gerald. In September of 1977, they meet in a poker room at the Black Stallion Club in California.

And she goes home with him that night. A week later, she moves in with him. She's like into the sub stuff. He's a dom. And so it's like really rough sex. He's fucking her ass. He's doing all the crazy shit back in the 70s that these kids were up to. And she goes along with it.

All of his crazy deviant fans. fantasies. She's like, I'm here for her because she's a wild one. She's ride or die. And he's fucking wild. You know, they've been married. They have like nine ex spouses between the two of them. It's crazy shit.

Eventually, Gerald tells Charlene, he required a pair of sex slaves to keep him excited. This did not surprise Charlene. She knew that things were going to escalate. So she's like, okay, this is going to be a problem. She went and bought a handgun knowing that things are going to get wild. Oh, no. The following month, Gerald saw it. to divorce his wife so he can marry Charlie Charlene.

In the summer of 1978, Charlene informed Gerald, she was pregnant. She's like, hey, good news. I'm pregnant. You left your wife? Let's do this. And he's like, ah, no, that's not cool. Not good news. No.

So she got an abortion not long after that. Let's fast forward to September, 1978. Gerald's daughter and her friend, the ones that he was fucking all that time, they reported sexual abuse of the police. So the police show up and Gerald and Charlene are like, we're out here. They flee the state. They're in California at the time. they go over to Nevada.

They get married in Reno three days after that. Her pairs were there. That's cool. It's nice of them. Blessing that marriage. Finally, she's settling down with a nice man from Good Stock. Yep. Between 1978 and 1980,

Joan and Charlene murdered at least 10 people in three different states. Holy shish. All of the victims were aged between 13 and 34. They were almost all female. There was one male. And what they would do is they would cruise up and down the West Coast. along Interstate 80 and they had a 1973 Dodge Ram van and they would look for young women who seemed like they're in for a good time or just vulnerable. Yeah.

And Charlene would go over to them and be like, hey, we got drugs in the van. You want to, want to get some drugs? And they're like, yeah, I like, I like drugs. Or she'd be like, hey, you want to go to a party? We're going to a party. And I like, yeah, yeah, I like parties. So they would get like these young women to go with them. See, they would get fun girls.

I think that's smart. Yes. Yes. So this was all to fulfill Gerald's crazy sadistic sexual fantasies. Right. They would restrain the victims. They drove to secluded locations. Nonstop essaying, as we say on YouTube.

Flip-flopping. A little flip-flopping going on. Prolonged periods of continued sexual assault and psychological torture. The victims were usually killed by shooting, bludgeoning, and on one occasion, strangulation. Let me just give you a couple examples here. The first victims were the ages of 16 and 17. They were leaving school, walking over to a shoe shop. On the way to over to a shoe shop and shopping.

And so they abduct these kids, right? They drive them 60 miles out of town. They're in a secluded area. He's in the back of the van. He's raping the one chick who's like the better looking one and making the other one watch. It's kind of shitty thing to do. This went on all day and night. Eventually, he got bored, took the mountain to the field.

bludgeon them almost to death. You know, can I just backtrack for a second? They made the one watch. Yeah. Tell me I'm the unattractive one without telling me I'm the unattractive one. It's like I don't want to get raped, but also it's kind of insulting. It sucks for my friends, but like I'm here. Give me something.

Jesus Christ. Can smack me with the tick once, you know? I mean from behind or something, show my face in the floor. I don't know what these kids are into. Oh. So he'd be bludgeoned them. They didn't die, but then he filled them with bullets. So they did.

These bodies are not found for two years. The next two victims were 13 and 14-year-old girls. These two, Charlene, forced them to fuck each other. So after Gerald had his way with them, she gets into it, because, you know, she's into the lesbian stuff, so she makes them fuck each other and scissor and 69. The saddest scissory to the history of the world. Am I doing this right?

One of them is just bawling. Oh, dude. It was not what you'd, uh, which, you'd want it to be. Oh, scissor me timbers. Not like that. So this went on.

There were six more victims, ten total, that they raped and murdered, as they're on their little spree here. So they were nicknamed the sex slave killers because of the prolonged torture the victim suffered, which prosecutors asserted was due to the couple scouting for ideal and ideal sex slave. The reason why they were killing them off,

they were like, no, this one won't do. Nope, this ain't the right one. Charlene accepted a plea bargain whereby she agreed to testify against Gerald and was sentenced to 16 years and eight months imprisonment in Nevada in February of 1983. Jordan was convicted of four murders, two in California, two in Nevada.

Yikes. And received death sentences in both states. His death sentence in Nevada was overturned in 1997 after an appeal but was reimposed two years later. He died of cancer while in death row in 2002. Charlene was released from prison in 1987. Upon the conclusion of her sentence, and move back to California, where she maintains a low profile.

She continues to deny any culpability in the murders and claims she only participated in them out of fear. Add to the list of why California should fall into the ocean. No shit. Add it to the list. Charlene Gallego is there. So these two are a wild couple. And that's who I'm bringing as the creepiest couple this week on The Creep Off. I understand, buddy.

That's a pretty good pick. I was not aware of most of that story. I wasn't either. I'm going to introduce you to two complete fucking ghouls, ladies and gentlemen. And I got to be honest with you, I'm pretty surprised we've never touched on these two before. I'd like to introduce you to Fred and Rosemary West. They look like a happy couple, don't they? Her with their Unitarian church haircut and him with his, I guess, dwarf face.

What was the AI props that you used for this? No, that's just a cleaned up picture that was black and white. That's a real photo. That is really that. Those are really people. Yeah, that's true. Friday, Roseberry. Yeah.

This is a pretty wild one, so sit back, Carl. All right. Fred was born in 1941 to a farming family in West England. At 17, he fractured his skull in a motorcycle accident and was unconscious for seven days. That's one of the great ways you make a psychopath. Yeah. Fred later claimed in interviews with police and others that his mother had decided to start sleeping with him instead of his father at around age 12. Wait, you mean just like sleeping?

No, no, no, I mean like As I say, she was like having a sexual relationship with him At 12. I mean, I don't know what the age. What age is appropriate is there fucking your son? I'm just going to say no matter what age, don't do that. Cancel me, I'm going to say none. Don't do any.

That's just me. But here's what the reason why this was fair. Because, you know, the dad was already sleeping with the sisters. Oh, well, there you go. Tit for tat. Right. So in his house, incestest, completely normal, which is not a great way to grow up at all.

No. Plus, the breakup is going to be hard, right? Yeah. You could still be my mom. You just can't be my girlfriend anymore. Well, I'll tell you what, this arrangement really got fucked up in 1961 because his 13-year-old sister that he had been S-A-in. Yeah.

Got pregnant. Yeah, they do that. 13-year-olds get pregnant, man. You think they wouldn't, but then they do. All that shit's working. Tip-top shape. You got to just avoid it. You got to just avoid it.

You gotta just avoid it, kids. Someone in the chat. No, that's not Suthering John and Ava Riza. No, these are different people. That was the prompt, actually. That was the prompt. Holy shit, it does look like, John. Holy shit.

Oh, yeah, vote for me. So his dad's really mad because now, you know, he's banging his girl. You gotta love Vinnie Carlino. So Fred told the police when the police got involved because the 13-year-old, they found out she was pregnant at school. Yeah. And they're not real thrilled about that. And she's like, it's my brother's baby.

So he had to explain himself to the police. And the quote that the police put out was, he said, doesn't everybody do it? Oh, he really didn't know. Yeah. They were kind of sheltered. Yeah. Well, I mean, they saw some shit, but. Yeah.

Not sheltered, but yes. The case collapsed when the sister refused to testify in court. So he's a teenager, like late teen teenager at this point. He meets a girl named Rina Costello, who was already pregnant with a daughter by another man. That daughter's name was Charlene. Fred and Rina got married and had their own daughter named Anna Marie in 1964. Now, Fred wasn't a great dad. No?

No. He kept both of his daughters at this point in the bottom of a bunk bed that he fitted with bars across it so they couldn't escape. He made it a little jail cell. Yeah, I do that with Jenny Jingles, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, imagine Dumbo's cage. Right. But it's bug beds.

Yeah. Yeah. So he built one of those for those kids and he used to beat the shit out of him all the time. And by 1966, the family moved to Glockenshire, where Fred began a relationship with a family friend named Anne McFall. And in June, 1967, McFall was 18 years old and eight months pregnant with Fred's child. She just disappeared. Oh, good. That's convenient.

Yeah. They found her body in 1994. Oh, okay. She had been cut apart at the joints. Many of her fingers and toe bones were missing and a cord was tied around her wrist. So fun fact about Fred, he was a toe guy, a finger and toe guy. Okay, like digits, huh? Yeah, he used to keep them.

But we'll talk more about the- I think he put him in Ava over there. Got it. I think that was the thing. But Ava's not in the picture yet. Can you figure me with your fingers tonight, please, honey? No, I don't do that. It's gross.

I've got to set. I got a spare set here somewhere. Here they is. So he denied killing McFall. There's no forensic evidence to link him to his death, to the death. But the fact is, it's the same MO that happens later. We'll get there. Now, Rosemary Letts was born in 1953.

Her father was a violent, paranoid schizophrenic. Cool. Who essayed her. She met Fred at a bus stop in 1969 when she was 15 and he was 27. By age 16, she was living with him and the two. daughters. The first child together, Heather Ann, was born on the 17th. Oh, mixed family.

Of 1970. Yeah. Yeah. So two months later, Fred gets arrested for stealing shit and has to go to jail until 1971. Okay. So Rose is 17 years old. She's now left with his daughter with the first wife.

The first wife's daughter that wasn't Fred, Charmaine and then Anna Maria, their daughter. Okay. Now, neighbors who tried to help her out tell some interesting stories at the time. They said they walked in and saw Charmaine standing naked on a chair gagged with her hands tied behind her back. Well, Rose stood over her holding a wooden spoon and just hitting her with it. Dude, I mean, your one mom versus three children, you got to lay down the law. And this kid isn't even like her boyfriend's daughter. This is like the wife's kid.

Yeah. So long story short, Rose yada, yada, yada, killed Charlemagne, who was eight years old. Okay. And basically what she did is after she killed her, she threw her body into like their coal pit and waited for Fred to get out of prison to go bury her. So she just left a decomposing body around the house with her children. And, well, I mean, it was at the coal pit. Dude, we don't know anyone who would do something crazy like that.

Matthew Lewinsky, thanks for the five books. I'm just saying. She told the neighbors that she went to go live with their mother and bloody good riddance. So, uh, the mother, uh, The first wife came looking for her daughter about a year later. Yep. And that's when Fred is believed to have strangled her, cut her body up and put it in bags and buried it in a field in their hometown. Oh, she takes that to where she has.

Yeah. Yep. She's over there. She's over there. She's over there. So good news, though, Carl. In 1972, Fred made Rose here an honest woman. Oh.

And they moved into this little place. This crazy couple. They just might make it. They moved into this joint right here. This is called 25 Cromwell Street in Gloucester, Carl. Doxed. Yep. It's no longer there, buddy.

Okay. Something bad happened there? Yes. And here's one of the worst things. Now, I want to show you something here, okay? Okay. This is Rosemary. Oh, she put a couple of LBs.

Yeah. This is Rose Murray going into court. Stress eating. Yeah. She looks like the bass player in a 50s band, like the standing bass player. Sure. Like kind of the fat one. Who also has like the low voice?

voice. Yeah, correct. So at their new house, they're at 25, uh, Cromwell place. They started renting the place out because they were trying to pay the rent. Fred wasn't really employable. He was like a child, Ravis and a murderer. They were subletting it. Now, is that allowed in the lease? I want to see how big a creeps these people are. They were allowed to. They did it. Okay. So they also started taking the lodgers to out pay rent. But then Rose started working as a prostitute. Oh, good luck with that. From the upstairs. How's what's going, honey? not great. I'll be honest. So, I mean, this is pretty fucked up, but.

Fred drilled peepoles into the walls and ceiling so he could watch the men who came to see her. Oh, okay. So not only were they, yeah, he was into it. He was in the cuck chair. So the combination of paying lodgers and men visiting rows of the growing number of children because they ended up with 10 of them, Carl. What? Why are they fighting all these children? Where are they collecting them from? They're loins.

They're falling out of this bitch. Their second daughter, May June. Then they had Heather May, Stephen, Louise, Barry, Rose Jr., Tara, and then another one named Rosemary Jr. And Luciana. Condoms are so much cheaper than children. I'm telling you. So much cheaper.

So from outside appearances, they look like they were a big family. that needed help and they would bring in like stray girls that they would find that were on hard times to come and be their nanny. Ooh, I want to do that. Right. She coming to be their nanny to help out with the kids. And, um,

ha. So they, it didn't work out well. Some of these nannies would quit. Like they would come on to the nannies and the nannies would be like, no fucking thank you. Right. I'm not into a three way with fucking stuttering John and Ava. one of them was a 17-year-old girl named Caroline Owens

while she was hitchhiking they offered her a part-time job as a nanny to live with their three children at the time How do these people get out of the fucking lock by a 17-year-old hitchhiker? So she moves into their house They give her a room with one of the daughters who noticed she was very withdrawn

After only a few weeks Owens became the target of the couple's sexual advances and told them she was leaving In December of 1972, they waited on her regular hitchhiking route, offered her another lift, and this time did not let her go. Her regular hitchhiking route. Is she going to get there or not? I don't get it. Why take a ride with these two?

They're going to try to fuck you again, stupid. That's true. This time they didn't. Here's what happened. He just fucking knocked her over the head and punched her until she was unconscious. Yo-hoo! They bound and gagged her with tape. Took her back to their apart, to their house, where they essayed her for hours.

Fred told her he would bury her under the paving stones at their house. She escaped the basement the next day. That'd be a lot of work, but okay. He was good with it, dude. Okay. He was good with it. What, I never buried a body before? He's very good at it.

Okay. She escapes and goes to the police. They get arrested, charged with indecent assault, and actual bodily harm. And guess what the courts did? Let them go. find them 50 pounds each and let them go about their business. This sadistic murderer and his goofy wife who watched it all and loved it. They don't have the money.

They're fighting them going to do. That's like me when he got anti-slapp complaining, it's auttering, Suttering John. Well, here's the deal. Fred was getting a little bored with Anne and Marie, Anne Mary, fucking, fucking all these other guys. So he wanted some of himself. So in 1972, he took their eight-year-old daughter, Anne-Marie, to the side.

her, restrained her flip-flotter, while Rose encouraged to inflict her bean. You got to participate, you know? Sometimes wives have to like get into

what their husband's into, you know? My mom's a big Buffalo Bills fan. She went to all the games. Afterward, Rose explained to the girl that it was a father's job to let her,

his daughter understand these things. And for years, this is what happened. In 1979, Amory ran away from home. Fred turned to the next oldest, Heather, and May told them,

made you, I could do what I like with you. That's like a Bill Cosby joke. Yeah. Three months... Oh, it is, isn't it? I brought you it. I can take you out. Let me show you how I made you.

I don't know if that was part of the act. Oh, no, Bill. Three months after the Owens case, the murderers at Cromwell Street began. Between April 1973 and April 1975, six young women. Here's some pictures of some of them. Okay. Yes. No.

Would. No. Maybe. Listen, if you look like these fucking two, the answer is yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I look like me. So I don't know, man. I don't know. Listen, you're not a grubby little English troll like that guy. Dude, the first chick in the middle row looks like one of our very first review girls on WATP. Remember her? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah.

We did that video. back then. It was just an audio show. Stop judging me. Moving on. Three months after the Owens case, the murders at Crowell Street began, like I said. The pattern that followed Owens was consistent. The West drove around with Rose in the car, same way yours did. They were not looking for sexy fun girls, though. They were looking for sad girls who felt going with this couple, like going to get a job with them was a smart, responsible thing and a good choice in their life, you know? A few people would quickly report these women missing.

Linda Gow 19 was a lodger. Caroline Cooper 15 was taken from a bus stop. Lucy Pettington 21 was a university student. Teresa Siegelhalter 21 was a Swiss student who was hitchhiking. Shirley Hubbard was 15. She was taken from a bus stop. Juanita Mott was 18. It was a former lodger who was a hitchhiker near Newent.

Now, he outfitted their basement, Carl. And I want to show you a picture of this. And I don't think... Where is it? So you're saying I can't purchase this home? Because I'm really bad at purchasing home, so I thought maybe this would be another horrible decision on my part. Carl, they got rid of this joint car.

I want to see how they redid the basement, though, before I decided to buy. Well, fuck it. I can't find the picture. Shit. That's all right. It's all good. I messed it up. We think you're great, buddy. Thank you, buddy.

I really needed that. Thank you, Carl, for being there for me when I was down. I really appreciate it. You're a good friend. So he basically turns the basement into a sex dungeon. He installs hooks and chains. And what he would do is when he would get them down there. He had kind of the same ammo.

They would wrap up their face with tape and stuff tubes three inches up their noses. Okay. Like in a really weird S&M thing. So these women felt like they were suffocating. Well, they would both essay them. Like, could you imagine struggling to breathe with your head encased and tape? and some woman trying to scissor you. I can't imagine that, Vinnie.

This doughy bra trying to scissor you. As you're fighting for breath. I actually can't imagine that. Oh, scissor me timbers. That drop cat. It needed to be played twice today. Not only that, Fred is essaying every hole he could get to. Okay.

And part of the essay is burning them with cigarettes, torturing them, cutting off toes. one by one by one by one. So as he was doing this, Carl, he would get rid of the bodies in their house. He would just, he buried a, he dug like a 15 to 20 foot trench around their house. How long does that take? A very long time.

He was motivated. So originally. If I started a project like that, Vinny, I would bail on it like, I don't know, two days in. He had to do that because his original plan was in their garage, right? They had what they called an inspection hole. which is like a thing if you worked on your car you could get in it and look up

and he was originally just throwing him down there and he was like because it wasn't a big space he was chopping them up and like all the body parts are piling up like fucking Tetris and he's like damn it I did the oil change do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do and he's like fuck it I have to dig this giant hole so he does that

and you know then he starts bearing some of them in the backyard there's a lot of body of this house, dude. One of that, the first girl that they murdered, Heather Goh or Linda Go, her mother came looking for her. Sure. When the mother showed up to the house, Rose answered the door wearing her daughter's clothes

and slippers. That's funny. And she was like, hey, I'm looking for my daughter. That stuff looks like, oh, we fired her. She was beating our children. We had to get rid of that. You know, it was a horrible person and not a great lay. I'm being honest.

Fuck it. Get out of here. Your daughter, we had to throw your vile daughter out of here. And this woman was so mortified. She never went to the police. Oh, okay. Oh, the police wouldn't do.

Oh, another $50. So they had a real shitty, like, floor down there. It was dirt floor. Yeah. So he dug some down there. It went very, very deep. And eventually what he decided to do is stop using that room for that. And he poured a concrete floor.

Nice. And made it the kid's room. That's fun. Yeah, so all these 10 kids could go down there and playing dad's old sex dungeon. Nice. Yeah. So he's still taking lodgers by 1977, 77, 78. Shirley Robinson, 17 or 18 from the time from a difficult background, moved in as one of the many.

Fred openly introduced her to other tenants as, my lover. When Rose was in the room, she did the same thing. She began a sexual relationship with both of them and regularly shared their bed, Carl. Okay. This girl became pregnant with Fred's child. Listen, to each their own, man. I don't judge. You know, I'm like a yuck your yum.

Other lodger said that she seemed sad. They did not consistently have her own room. And toward the end, wanted to stay out of the West's way because things had grown very strained. Fred told one of them that she was becoming too possessive. And what Rose was described as jealous about her. So in May of 1978, when she was eight months pregnant, she disappeared. Fred told people that she moved to Germany, moved on, got out of the country. She's in a farm upstate.

Her remains and those of the unborn child were later found in the garden. The baby had been cut from her body. Afterward, Rose applied for maternity benefits in Robinson's name. Smart. Fred later told authorities that Rose killed Robinson herself and cut the baby out herself. So I just want to point this out. Apart from each other, both of these people are murderous ghouls. I noticed that.

Yeah. So a 16-year-old runaway named Allison Chambers was living with the West. as a nanny, she was killed and buried in the garden with a leather belt looped under her jaw and buckled on top of her head. They're very good at killing strangers, Carl. Now, here's where they get caught. Their daughter, Heather, showed up to school, covered in welts and bruises, and told a friend her parents had done it. On June 19th, 1987, don't say shit for attention. It's not cute.

On my fifth birthday in 1987, the day after she was rejected for a job that would have let her leave home, Heather disappeared. She was 16. Fred later said that he strangled her, cut her apart with a knife he used on frozen meat, had his stepson, Stephen dig a hole in the garden and what he called a fish pond. They later found her body. She was tied up first. Her brother Barry later said he watched Rose kick Heather in the head until she stopped moving. Fred put a table over her grave and told the other children they would end up under the patio like Heather.

That's a disciplinarian right there. That's how you do it. Yeah. In 1992, Fred raped his third. He flip-flopped his 13-year-old daughter, Louise. Okay. There's still going, huh? Yeah, yep, yep.

Jesus Christ. Is this the never-ending story? What's happening here? Rose told her you were asking for. Police received an anonymous tip and the younger children replaced in foster care. The flip-flop case collapsed in June 1993 when Louise and Anna Marie declined to testify. Detective Constable Hazel Savage kept looking for Heather, but couldn't find any reference to her being alive anyway.

She disappeared at 16. So the cops showed up with a warrant. They dug up the garden in Eureka. They found a whole lot of shit. They were both arrested. Fred confessed to a lot of shit and then hung himself in his cell. Rose was arrested right after that in 1994. She answered every charge with I'm innocent.

And on January of 1995, while awaiting trial of the 12 murders, Like I said, Fred had hung himself. I messed up my notes there. He left a note telling Rose that he was giving her his life as a birthday present. Oh, that's sweet. So she was found guilty on at least 10 murders. And she's still alive and in prison, Carl. Is she really?

She is. We could write her a letter if we want. I would love to FaceTime her sometime. No, you wouldn't. How old is she now? She's born in 53 or 15? So she's got to be like maybe 80 something. Yeah, she's in her 70s.

She's pretty gross. So if you're going to vote this week, vote for the incest family that murdered all the poor sad girls. If you still wake, go vote for Carl, patreon.com slash the creepop. Great story, Vinny. Wake up, everybody. It's good stuff. It's Columbus Day, but I forgot to mention there's another holiday today. Super Chat Monday.

I don't know if anyone's celebrating it, which is weird because usually people do celebrate Super Chat Monday along with us. Have we got any super tips? We have supertip.g.g. G.g. Let's take a look. Vini has it working this week. We tested it before the show, so we want to use a super tip.

It would be my uncle Adolf or anyone else. Nope. That is available to you. Nope. All right. Hold on a second. Maybe I should have stopped the show with that. I don't know if I'm having a problem with stream yard or something.

I think people are, they're done with our drama. So are we. I know. They're bored with it. All right. Well, moving on. All right, we got a cop cam. We certainly do.

I got some music for you, too. I can't wait to see Cause Cockham. Fight with the cops for no reason. Will you please show me, cause cop cam. Who's your rights? Ruin your life. This one comes in from the great Brian Jonson, in front of the show. Hosts of Tell him, Steve Dave.

And this is a. a weird one. They're these two women and they're the ones who call 911 because these friends of the passenger, let me explain this because it gets wild. Okay. The friends of the passenger

took her house key from her and then went nana-n-n-a-da-boo and drove away. Oh. So, the passenger gets in the car with the driver and says, hey, that bitch stole my keys, we got to go get them. Well, they keep avoiding them. So they finally, I'm calling the cops on you and they do call

the cops. And that's what we see here as the police arrive at this gas station. We are working an accident with really nasty injuries. Your keys are on the priority and we have somebody around. What's going on? Damn, I'm trying to get my keys for my friend. I'm trying to go home. I'm tired, bro. Okay.

Can we not go? Hey, don't walk away. Don't walk away for me. Can I go inside, please? No, you cannot go inside. We're investigating right now. Get back inside your car right now. Can I go inside?

We're good. Go back inside. your car right now we're good we're good no we're trying to get our cheesy i we're not us not we're not we're not told me to go back inside my car listen to me i watch you not tell me to go back yes sir you're recklessly okay sir stop running your mouth the operator told us to do what we just told us the car stop running your mouth okay listen to what i'm saying she pulled over respect for y'all dude i hate everything about this these women suck they are like victims and they can't believe that these officers don't know what's going on.

They should know everything that's happening right now. And I like that they go, the operator told us to do this. Who do you think has the authority of the 911 operator or the police officer who's standing right in front of you? They're not bright these two. I'll be honest. So in case anybody ever questions that, the answer is the person with the gun standing in front of you. Yes, every time.

Every time, whether the police officer or not, they're the ones who have the authority at that time. Yes, Mr. Papadopoulos. I will give you my wall, Mr. Papadopoulos. Exactly. So this fighting continues with the driver who seems to be a real. See you next Tuesday. My clip number two. I'm literally calling my lawyer.

I need a driver's license. No, I'm calling my lawyer. Go back to your call. I'm talking my lawyer. No. Man. Can you listen? If you fail to provide or driver's license.

I'm the one who called, man. I'm getting it the on my wallet. Shut up. Watch this. Watch this. No. Man. Just.

Step, step. Step the side. Okay, calm down. I literally called you. She just take out of her drives and just chucks it on the ground. That was smart. And the people officer's like, really?

Is that, that's what we're doing here? What the fuck? That's, I can't tell, did she do that too so that they didn't, she was trying to be sly so they wouldn't, I'd be able to identify her? Or did she do that to be completely disrespectful? She should be disrespectful. Got it. Just making sure. Sometimes.

The female officer does fight it and picks it up and looks at it. Okay. So let's find out the story. Clip number three. Stand in front of the car. Bro, they're laughing around the fucking McDonald's is laughing with my keys and my... That's what we're trying to figure out. I'm trying to go home.

We want to understand the situation, but we're trying to... Dude, because my friend's been trying to go home, dude. You're not going to stop talking. Because you guys haven't been listening to me. I'm not standing in front of a car. Don't stand here. Because I'm standing right here. Okay.

Can you... I don't... I do, but I'm not giving you my ID. Why are you not giving you... Because when I called the police station, I gave them my name. They got my number. I told them, the person I'm chasing is,

I need my keys from her. What's her address? So I can go get them. She called to me, and I said, hey, I'm calling me the police to get my keys from you. And I'm going to ask them for your address. She said, call the police. I don't think those are good reasons not to give them your ID.

No, there's terrible reasons. Like, no, I'm the one who called the police. So you can't ask me for an ID. Prove it. No, we can. Do you like how, like, this woman thought that like, oh, I'm going to tell on you. I'm going to tell on you guys and you're going to get in trouble.

And it's like, you're doing it wrong, officer. You're supposed to be getting them in trouble. I'm mad at them. That's why I call the cops. So I think there's a big misconception of people's brains when they get stopped by the police and the cops ask them for their ID. They think that automatically means they're the one in trouble. Sure.

That's not what that is, folks. Just give them the ID because they just want to know who they're talking to. The only time you know that you're the one in trouble is when they put on a glove and tell you to bend over in front of them. That's on the trouble. starts. I don't go to the south anymore. Clip number four, this, uh, this driver decides to start walking away and that's not a good decision on her part. Oh, God. You are not walking away. Once again, I'm, all right. Can you shut the, no, we're done mom. Nope, we're done by mom.

Nope. Don't fucking talk to me like that. With you too many because you're ugly. Oh, no. You're going to be joining her if you don't stop talking. Sir, I swear, sir. Oh, boy. They are fighting. There, pull on, ball. Touch me. Get out. Don't touch me. Oh, you shouldn't have worn white tonight. Can you tell me to do?

I'm on the phone with my mom. Step back. No, I'm on the phone with my mom. Step back. You're fucking mad. You're on a coward trip. So, again, they don't understand the tears of authority here. They're like, well, the dispatcher said this, that's above you.

My mom's saying this, that's above you. Like, none of these people are above the police officers in this situation. So the way I see it at my flow chart is, It goes, mom. Yep. 911 operators. Oh, yeah, lawyer. That's right.

She was calling your lawyer. She told the cat to get back in her car. I'm calling my lawyer. Get back into your car. It's fucking idiots. Yeah. She was out of line. The cop told her to stand there.

Stand there and talk to your mom. Why are you leaving? Why are you walking away? We think you're trying to escape the situation. We are going to come get you. Now, the police officer was very aggressive. But this one maybe deserved it. She was being...

She threw the idea on the ground. Very disrespectful. wasn't following directions and then told her to shut the fuck up and then called her ugly that's not nice you don't want to start kicking a police officer bad idea

we are not the ones you guys are after we're the ones that called you guys for help what do you ask for us for just get your hands and get your hands and then I calmed down she kicked the air I literally just watched you got on weird

bro So I don't care if you kick the air or you kick the police officer. When you're being detained, kicking should be eliminated. Like, of the options you have at that point, kicking is not one of them. You know, it's the only one you really have, though. It's kicking or spitting. That's true. Or head butts.

Oh, we're going to see a few of those things coming up. So after this, they ask if they're being treated like this because they're black. So they immediately are just like, oh, this white bitch treatment like this is not black. I think that one woman's just like, we're the ones who called you. You guys were supposed to go up to the bad guy. I'm sorry, that's not how this works, idiots. Mom, I'm on Sheridan and Wadsworth, bro. Like, these white fatt are being stupid pieces of shit.

My bad, but they're being white fucking fatt. Just sit down. Mom, why would I sit down with her being super shuffles? And now she's trying to kick me and she's weak a shit. She makes some good points. Mom, why would I sit down when they're being white fucking faggots? She calls her about bro. Hey, bro, this, these, these, crackers are being white faggots over here.

Got my mom. Oh. Can you fucking do something about your daughter? She's not great. You know, when you're hearing your daughter be wrestling, the police, saying things like that. Yeah. As a parent, what do you think is going through your head? I failed miserably.

Yeah. Is what you're thinking. Like, oh, my God. If only I had in the first trimester, gone and seen a doctor. If only I had. We could have eliminated this. Not caught myself. when I was falling down the stairs that one time.

Yes. Plastic coat hangers do not work, I found out. Is there a minute of this where she thinks, I remember holding this sweet little baby. Oh, God. And this is what this turned into. Dude, this woman has serious mental problems, as I'm sure you've picked up on by now. Well, by the outfit. The outfit's cute.

That's up, whatever. She doesn't that much for titties, but she's cute. Clip number seven. So the please I was trying to explain to her, like, the more you wrestle, the more you're a problem, then more problems you're going to have, and he uses a big word she doesn't know. You can talk to your mom. Why did you forcefully stop our phone call? Explain to me the fucking laws right now and tell me why you forcefully stopped our phone call.

Mom? And I'll let you talk to her. Mom. Get in the car and I'll let you start to. You're compounding your problems. Why are you forcefully stopping my phone call? Compounding your problem. Why are you, what is compounding me?

What are you talking about? What is the thing? This bigger than it needs to be. No, you literally. started detaining me because she had a power trip and now you guys are acting like infants. What does compounding mean? No, I don't want to drive my car home.

What do you mean compounding? Oh, no. She's a dumb dumb. God, the mother has got to be mortified. She's listening to all of this. She's still on the phone. Jeez. This is great.

So she, as all these idiots do, are like, I'm not getting in the car until your supervisor gets here. I want to talk to your supervisor. Your supervisor tells me to get the car. then I'll get in the car, and he's a pretty good comeback. We're next clip. Dude, are you really? Are you really? Because you clearly weren't on the phone with the dispatcher.

You know, when your supervisor gets here, I'll get in the car. I am her supervisor. Get in the car. You're not the fucking supervisor. Yeah. You want to be this slow if you were the supervisor. Get in the car. Yes, Mom?

Get in the car. Mom? What the thing is going to happen when I get in the car. I didn't do shit, Mom. You're in the car. Shut up. I'm talking to my f f f f f***. Oh boy.

They're telling you to get in the car. You really don't have an option at this point. Just get in the car, Jaila. It would be cool. What's he that when I get in the car? I don't know. It'll be quiet outside. I think that's what's going to happen.

What's going to happen when I get in the car? You're going to jail. So this is the sergeant who shows up. And she's like, I want to see your supervisor. Like, I'm the fucking sergeant. I'm telling you, you're going to get in the car, idiot. And dude, this fucking. bitch. How old do you think this woman is?

Hmm. At the oldest, 23, 24. Okay, good guess. She's 21 years old. Okay. And we've been talking about this as we started doing the cop cams on the show. What is wrong with this generation where they need their mommies, even as they become adults, this is a wild clip. Well, can I just say this?

Yeah. Every 21 year old is kind of a shithead. Yeah, I was. There's that. But I didn't yell for my mom ever. Not one time. I met your mom. You probably should have.

She's a nice lady. She's a very nice lady. She was at the show. What is going on with this lady? This is the sergeant. She doesn't break out the window at the car. Are you okay? Your mom's on her way.

I know I want my mom. Your mom's on her way. I know I want my mom right now. How old are you? I'm 21, but I want my mom. This is my fifth time going out at you recipe. This is embarrassing. Kids can't handle booze, man.

Kids can't handle booze. If she claims she wasn't drinking, I think you're right. There's something going on here. This fucking woman, if she's not mortified by this, that this is on YouTube with millions of views, I can't imagine going through the rest of my life. I'd get a sex change operation immediately. I mean, she's halfway there.

Look at those glasses. Are you, are you Jala? No, no, no, I'm Jimmy now. I'm Jason. Yeah, right. All right, so watch this meltdown. This is an epic meltdown clip 10. You scratch the entire arm.

Your entire arm, I didn't fucking touch you. I didn't fucking touch you. Why the fuck are you arresting me when I didn't do shit? When we called the fucking cops so you can deal with the other people stealing their property. What are you doing? Can you calm down? No. Because I'm not even involved.

I was walking away, kind of, to make face, fucking gestures to my, friend who works here. Too soon. And your sh-faced co-workers talking about some, oh, here we go. And she want to keep touching me, and you want to fucking keep supporting it.

Dude. She's seen ghosts. Yeah, do you see that look at her eyes? She's fucking crazy. I bet she's really good at bed. It's in her mess. We have a bingo. There are times when your penis get sliced off.

And other other times that you're pretty impressive with what she's able to do. Okay, so what's the problem here, Benny? I'm sure you're going to, we'll say it both at the same time. Ready? Three, two, one, white people. Oh, no. No, it's white.

I was saying alcohol. No, it's white people. Got it. Thanks, clap. I am sick of white people pushing me over. I'm not even saying you. I don't give a fuck about you. Like, cool, you didn't take my land.

You didn't really pillage my people. I don't give a fuck. But why is she putting her hands on me for no reason? I'll explain to you when he comes on. Is this close to a reservation, Carl? No, it's not. This woman is hitting almost every trope. It was the lawyer.

It was the I can't breathe. Now she's going into slavery. She's like, now listen, officer, I know that you weren't a slave owner. But, you know, a lot like you. It's kind of a problem. Plus, that white bitch was touching me. I think if I had to identify the racist in this situation, I won't say anymore. All right, so clip number 12

She just wants to go home That it's not going to happen That's not going to happen I want my mom She's on her way You don't even hand me my phone Put your leg in the car, please I want my fucking mother

And I want to go to the fuck home Because you stupid white Are stopping me from going home You're not going home If I'm not going home Why the fuck would I make it easier? So you could go home eventually You and I both know the answer to that question.

She does not. I'm going to be a huge problem if you're going to tell me to jail. I mean, you can. That's certainly an option you have. I mean, it has been a slow night. We're looking for some entertainment, Jaila. It's fucking great. Wow.

Yeah, so she wants to go home. She's not. She's going to jail. And so the officer says, listen, I can't explain to you what's going on. You're too hysterical. Can you calm down? She says, you know what, you're right. I'm going to talk calmly now.

And that's my clip three time. Okay. Additional charge for what? What the fuck am I doing? For obstructing a police? I didn't do sht. You're trying to talk to me. I'm talking calm and you're not fucking compromising.

Am I not calm? Oh no. Let me go home. What you're like in the car. No, answer me! Answer me! You're not waiting till I'm calm. You're waiting till you have authority.

You stupid wife, what the fuck are you looking out with your stupid, fucking drug self? Why the fuck can you not look at it? Can you not look at one, fucking area with your fucking eyes stray, with your stupid, fucking south? Can you please move up to the front of the car? Yeah, why don't you get the fuck out of here, you fucking pig? Can you please put your leg in a car? No!

That was her trying to be calm. I'll be rational with you, officer. So what do you say? I'm going to have additional charges, like compounding problems? Explain this to me. What I hated the most about that was the glimpse into the mental process for her. If I talk calm, I'll get what I want. Yes.

She goes, I'm being calm. Why don't you compromise? Why aren't you compromising with you? No one is to compromise with you. Betcha. Because we're the police. That's why. Right.

Clip 13 or we're at 14, right? Yeah. So mom does show up. Mom doesn't offer the help that she was hoping for. And then we find out what the charges are. Does she say, quick, climb back in. I'll get you away. Although, I'll talk to the actors and I'll take you home with me.

I'll take you home with me. I'll have some. What's gonna need? I spit on anybody who the fuck I wanted to and it wasn't you show. Shut the fuck up. Just please put your legs in the car. This cop's great you patient. Close the door.

After being transported to jail, the suspect allegedly struck a correctional officer in the left side of her head, on the ear and her nose, causing it to bleed. Prompting the correctional officers to deploy pepper spray on her. Aw. According to court records, this suspect, 21 year old Jala was charged with two counts of felony aggravated battery on a peace officer. felony aggravated battery on a correctional employee, resisting, obstructing, reckless driving, and disobeying a stop sign. She is presumed innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law. Well, I'll tell you right now, for her fifth time out, she's on track for the Hall of Fame.

Way to go, Jala. Dude, you know what's crazy? The people will make this cop cam, I should give them credit, but I always forgot to. They went back and found that she's been another cop cam videos. We want to recognize her. I believe we featured one of these. Check out clip 15. Now, we did some more digging into Jayla's Pass and,

another viral traffic stop incident that gave her the infamous name give him a ticket girl give him a ticket but compare this to another interaction she had with police and it's night and day do you know your plate for suspended um i was calling the secretary of state and they're giving right to me what i need to do you have your insurance this is one reason i'm a big believer in finding a good counselor or therapist when you need one yeah uh that's called manic depression or i think bipolar disorder like this woman i don't think can be fixed but you just got to sedate her you're just going to put her down yeah that last clip she definitely doesn't look like she should be driving that looks like thorzine was at the wheel right um did we watch that first one did we watch

i swear we watched to give him a ticket one right i don't remember maybe i said a drew show i don't remember it but if you maybe i remember it but maybe i didn't feature i should if we didn't see it tell me in the chat or if we did jela's uh wild I kind of like Jaila. I do too. You know she kind of looks like. She kind of reminds me of Whitney Houston. Malini's wife.

What's her name? The actress. Olivia Munn. Yes. She kind of looks like that except way younger and crazier. Way crazier. Yeah. Super chat Monday.

People are celebrating. Donna G. coming in. Thank you so much, Donna G. With 20 bucks. Oh, hey, Carl. Congrats on the lull suit. Have a great day, Vinnie.

Donagie, I love you. Thank you so much for the support. And I just want to tell you, point devil point today. we have a big episode. The return of Shulie Agar is coming on. Boy, he didn't stay away long, did he? Wow, this is a big day for us.

It sure is. Lucy Typebox coming on. No one had better coverage of the lawsuit, the lawsuit throughout it than Lucy. Oh, cleavage. Hit the like button. And then the great Danny Sevelas, our attorney, will be stopping by

to take his own victory lap on this. Is he going to discuss his next lawsuit? with Anthony Gumea? That's the one. I will ask. Carl, do you remember at the table at Hacomania when he told us that? I'll never forget. I said, did you hire a lawyer?

He goes, yeah, I hired Danny. And I lost it. Nobody knew that until this week. I'm so happy. Oh, God. So fucking awesome. God is going to cough up blood. Daniel Adams, 3871, thanks for the two bucks.

I think she needs an exorcism. Yes. You might be right. He also came in with another two bucks. said want to go out to dinner no i want to go ho ho i've heard that too got to shoot your shot though ah hurting pink sock thanks for the ten bucks i hope you have the other vid from her traffic stop even better she's a body cam superstar it was a few months before or after that if we haven't featured it i'll grab that because yeah she's a star

okay we should get her on the show could she be a results girl yes all right she certainly can as long as she promises to scream at the loser make them feel bad i just scry with the winner Whoever she's mad at that day. I don't care. Good call. Can AI add a new chapter to John's book for the case? Of course it can. AI would write it too well, though.

You'd like this is John's writing. Yeah. Heck. We laughed our asses off. It just doesn't have the same feeling. We were laughing our asses off. We laughed our asses off. I laughed my ass off.

Carl, I think it is time. Me, Robin Rizanceancey, Scott the Pace, Stunk this scene, we're laughing our asses off. What time is it, pity? It's time for the scum parade. All right. So, Carl, this first story, there's no images for it, but I wanted to discuss this because I feel like it's something you could take to the other show that you're interming hosting

on the biggest problem in the universe. I saw Vito in the chat earlier. Okay. Okay. What do we got? So there's a situation that happened in Hamilton County, Ohio. Pedestrian died after being hit by a car Monday, according to Mount Healthy Police Department apartment. Now, that happens all the time.

Especially in Rochester. You ever drive down Monroe Ave and see these fentanyl freaks walking in the middle of the street? Doing the slant. Doing the slant, man. I, I turned into a video game. I'm just like maneuvering around them. Cops don't give a shit. Yeah. I got to tell you, man, there's nothing they can do with them. What are they going to do? Buy him a sandwich. Cops aren't doing that. They're not hungry. That's true. They don't even want a sandwich. You're not breaking a loss standing on the street corner like this. Uh, loitering? J-walking?

There's, there's some lot, somewhere. That's a good point. Good point. I mean, it's a ticket, but. Well, this 69-year-old named Jeffrey Floor, who died, did not need to. The problem here, Carl, and one of the biggest problems in the universe is how we enable the handicapped. Oh, my God, you're so right about that. Do you know who's like a billionaire?

When you're walking on the sidewalk and at the end of the sidewalk before it hits the street, there's that one little mat thing that's got the bumps on it. Yep. That person who invented that and manufactures that sells it to every local government in the United States. Yep. Because it's for blind people so they know they're walking into the street. I thought that's what the dog was for. They got to have a dog and a bumpy sidewalk thing.

And I mean, how good is the dog if he can't tell the sidewalk's bumpy? Right. Also, Stevie Wonder plays the shit out of a piano. You sure does. You can't walk down the street. I saw him catch that microphone that one time. I know. Oh, Stevie, if I find out Stevie's lie it.

All right. Ray Charles, though. Let's go with Ray Charles. Here's the problem. A 21-year-old double amputee. Double amputee. Correct. What they're missing, I don't know, because none of the stories about this have said what the person was missing.

I think they're missing their arms. Right. Now, I have seen the vehicles where people could drive with their mouth or whatever. Yeah, we're talking. I've done that before on the steer. Well, it's funny, you know, you know what? You know what? Blind people can't tell you their favorite color.

Not everything is for everyone when you have a disability, unfortunately. That's true. But this person, this person got into a car and decided to try to drive it with their fucking teeth and ran over a 70-year-old. Let me tell you something about these disabled people. Deaf people is a huge population at RIT here in Rochester. Deaf people. They don't care about the isotopes. Can you believe that?

I don't know if you know this car, but there's not... Fuck you, deaf people. There's not a lot of blind people going to... of the art museum either. Yeah, I know. They don't appreciate the arts at all. They don't care about music. They don't care about paintings.

And now they're going to drive around. All right. So this W. Amputt is driving a car and drives run into a 6-9-year-old man. Jumps a curve, runs him over and kills him. 2.30 of the afternoon. What was his name? They did not say this person's name.

No, the victim. His name was Jeffrey. Jeffrey. Floor. Boy, Jeffrey, pavement. Come on. Come on. Come on.

Come on. I see what you did. Jeffrey sidewalk. Oh boy Okay Good point I'll add this in right here Jay Phoenix thanks for the down 99

The bumps also slow down An old people An old person's walker Oh that's a good point too Yeah I think you tripped up over it It's just another reason It's just another reason for them to stay home I'm good with that too

Yeah but I'm just saying Maybe we've thought about this the wrong way Maybe it's a good old person to turn it I don't know about you But you know you have elderly parents or whatever The best gift for them is just streaming services. Well, here's Disney Plus.

I've renewed your Netflix. Have I told you that I pay for all of them for my mom? Dude. She has them all. That's how you do it. I'm a good son. Yep. My mom's like, I want to go out and see people.

No, you don't. I just watch the people on the screen. That's fine. Have you heard about this show, Reacher? There's a guy on the internet who's raving about it. Yeah. This dude is so big. Chad,

uh, responded to my tweet about winning the lawsuit. Yeah. And he's like, I hate your fucking guts. But I'm glad you're, won this loss. I'm like,

he's just putting it in there for your boyfriend KB, your daddy. He's, you've been extra nice to chat. I've been extra nice to chat. Plus, he hates my guts. What have I ever done to this fucking guy?

So weird. But he had to do that so that Kevin Brennan approved of that tweet that he put out there. Yeah. Got for everybody. Give me a compliment. So this person just decided to get into this car that was not manufactured for people with his disability. Okay.

And decided to try to drive it. Okay. He was driving with his knee, which, by the way, can be done. Sure. How do you get it into drive? Dude, I'm a pretty good driver. How do you get it into drive? Getting it into drive would be a, that would be a tongue thing.

But once you're driving, now, Vinnie, you're hosting a joint rolling contest. Wait a second. We announced that last week. It's very exciting. You are, you are, yes, there it is. The Rochester Rolling Cup joint rolling contest. Over 28th, Vinie Paulino is the, yes. of this show.

Now listen. If I will just throw this out there. The, to be able to compete is not out yet. It will be out this week. You can compete. It's 25 bucks to enter. They'll give you the cheechy. They'll give you the papers.

Oh, wow. All you got to do is show up and do your best. And if there's the type of papers you like to use, then bring those with it. That's fine too. I'm a zigzag guy. Okay. All right. So I'm sure you've done this before, right?

You're driving along on the throughway going 75, but it's cruise control. You're fine. and you got your knee on the steering wheel, and you are just rolling up that J in your hand while you're driving. Baby officer. Yeah, right? Maybe, right? It's possible.

You know, I generally would be before. I mean, sometimes, you know, you forget before you leave or you're late. I don't, you can't do the joint in the car. I swallowed one too many because people behind me had a roof rack. Just can't do it. Just don't do it. It's not a good choice. Mahalia wants a joint rolling contest at Hacomania.

Not a bad idea. Patrick Melton, I'll be glad to host a joint rolling contest at Hacomania. Oh, you know what, though? I don't think marijuana is allowed in the city of Vegas, right? Actually, you're allowed to have it inside. You're not allowed to smoke it on the street. Well, who found out about that? Our friend Adam Bush.

Oh, doxed! Adam. Hey, thank you, Labrind. He just gifted. You ready for this? Fuck, yeah. Five creep-off channel memberships. Dude, this fucking guy right here.

here. And then guess what else he did? What else did he did? He added another five on top of that. Fuck, yeah. You get to five. Do do, do, do up. Do do do up.

Five for Who Are These Podcasts. Five for the Creepoff. Thank you, Evermistic. We do bonus shows on the Creepoff channel every Friday at noon. You can watch those live or anytime thereafter. They're up there for you if you're a member. So if you got a membership, check that out. And if you like it, renew.

And thanks so much for the Who Are These Podcast memberships as well. Very cool. I have to say, Carl, we've been putting out some bangers on the bonus episode. I love the bonus episodes. Yeah, you were gone for two weeks, and it was awesome. We had Lorenzo Ariola. Yeah. We had fun.

And that'd be, Dixon had fun. Yeah. And then, you know, you came back last week and we had even more fun. So there's a lot of good ones in the last couple of weeks. Go check them out. How many Pat Dixon's are there? At least a dozen, right? I always assumed it was a stage name.

Right, yeah. Because it does paint a picture when you think about it. Sure. It's just like a slow person. petting a hamster just too hard pat dixon yeah petting a jita bisconte but too hard with your fist got the one all right well uh let's keep moving shall we you know what's funny about pat i think he's a phenomenal stand-up comedian i think he's very funny his delivery is great his joke writing is fantastic he's a really good podcast toast uh the new city crime report on compound i know he still does it over on

censored i've been on twice recently it's been of last dude he's great he's great great. He's really good at presenting. I love his show with Bob Levy. I don't know He does solo stuff and he's, you know, playing songs on the piano. He does all of this shit. He's like, he's very versatile. He does a lot of things. He's skewed on the devil verse. He's a great guest on the shows. He'll always be known for punching Gino Biscate. That will be the first thing on his obit. This man gave Gino Biscate what he deserved. He'll be the first sentence on his obet. You know, when people think of Michelangelo, they immediately think of the Sistine Chapel.

But he also did David. Right. So I'm just saying, you know, it's like, oh, like, whatever, who cares? Yeah, I mean, there's, there's, you know, art, like big art, you know, and then there's the other stuff you do, so. Exactly.

I'm glad you went straight to David. I'm glad you weren't to Michelangelo. That's what I think of Pat Dixon. I think of the great artist at summertime. Sure. Of course. Before our time, I guess. Of course.

More sense to say. Hey, Carl, can I introduce you to Patrick Joseph Fox. He's 39 years old of Bluff. He got arrested for something I didn't know was technically still a crime. What's that? He's being charged with buggery. Uh, buggery, is it? Yeah.

What, uh, decade is this? Uh, this is 2026. And I'm guessing that law has been on the books for at least 200 years. Okay. What kind of buggery was they up to? Oh, family dog. Finney, we do a story like this every week now. There's a lot of dog fucking happening.

Someone's fucking a dog every week. Sometimes there's women, sometimes as men. I think, here's my theory on this. I think people have been fucking their family dogs forever. And now they want to brag about it. So they're filming it and posting it online. Because there was a time where someone would be like, I fucked my family dog.

I'd be like, I don't believe you. You have to prove it, you know? And they couldn't. But now it's like, no, no, no, I have a video of it. I posted it up on the Google Drive. You can go check it out. Well, that is a good chunk of them. Some of them are quite proud of themselves.

Yeah. But the other problem that seems to be happening is the cameras everywhere. People have the home security system. That's the problem. You know, you think you're alone in your backyard with your dog, but, you know, the neighbors got a ring doorbell. Why, they do? My neighbors?

Fuck. I know you have cameras, too. That's how Jenny can't escape. But they catch shit and people find out these things. I mentioned my neighbor's dog barks too much. Yeah, there's a reason. Anyway, moving on. My asshole.

My asshole. He sees me. He's like, ah, roo, roo. Doug, it's all sexy when he sees Carl. So police said the charge is connected to an alleged January 2026 incident involving sexual conduct with the family dog. Fox was taken to the detention center without incident. And his attorney, General's office will prosecute the case. So I guess what I'm trying to say to everybody here is, don't fuck animals, please.

Oh, don't fuck animals. Do not fuck animals. That's actually a really good point. Thank you. Please and. Good. Moving on. Let's meet a fantastic mom, Carl.

This is Alicia Yvonne Sanchez. She's 37 years old. And she allegedly took a child to a PDF file doctor to have intercourse with in exchange for prescription meds, Carl. Why would you have a pedophile doctor? Like I understand him like an ear, nose and throat guy or a pedometer or something. But why would you have a pedophile doctor? That seems like you would never need that. Who is that guy when you watch Chicken Hawk Lyle?

Lyle needs a doctor too. Carl. Right. That's what I mean. Like, hey. Oh, doctor. There's so many cute boys in the waiting room. Like, you go to a general practitioner and he like refers to you like, well, you know, I know a good pedophile doctor. Like, I don't think I need that. That's okay. You know, even if you are a psychiatrist whose job it was to try to fix these people, you would not refer to yourself as pedophile doctor either. No, no, it's not great. Yeah. So it's not great to get labeled at. But she was busted Wednesday and accused of taking the youngster, only described as a child under the age of 14 to be abused by this man, Dr. Kenneth Haygood.

Oh, shucks. He's 56. They went to his office in Tyler, Texas. Sanchez is also known as Elise Seguin. She took the child to Haygood at least 10 times. Hold on a second. I just noticed this now. That judge wearing a bow tie?

It's a Texas judge. Of course he is. Kind of buffoonery is this. Okay, peewee. Oh, we're thinking you seriously? Come on. You're saying I'm guilty? I know, you're one of mine.

I'm rubbered your glue So 10 times she takes this kid to the office She stays in the room While the abuse took place According to the report Okay The child would cry and beg for Hagar

To stop but was told This is what doctors do Yeah she was begging to go to the dentist Here's a thing that I don't understand About pedophilia Begging to go to the dentist Yeah She'd know my tooth hurts

I swear The thing I noticed saying about pedophiles. I can't get a boner. There's a child crying in another room that I can hear. You know what I'm like? Children crying is a boner killer. The fact that they can push through that is insane.

Unless that's what does it for him, in which case, Woodchipper. That's what Catholicism teaches, I guess. What are you going to do? Cops investigated after the child told a counselor the doctor gave Sanchez medication, including Adderall, used to treat AD and HD and Narcolepsy.

This bitch is scoring Addies and I'm getting fucked over it. Yeah. You don't have the best mom in the world. I don't know to tell you. Sanchez told the child the pills given in the clear baggie were for people who couldn't get them from their doctor. She faces up to 99 years her life in prison if convicted of continuous essay of a child under 14. Investigators haven't publicly revealed Sanchez's link to the child nor the youngster's gender. Do you remember when Dr. Steve checked Rocco's prostate with his cock?

And then he gave us all Adderall and notes from and notes for the judge. That was wrong, right? You should have done that, right? Well, only because it was not in his home state. Right. It was across state. He was practicing medicine across state lines. If I recall.

He's practicing son of me across state lines. Did you take an oath? Holy shit. He took a hypocrite oath. That's a hack. Please put me down. So she's expected to get 99 years to life in prison. Heygood, the guy doing the essaying.

They call that the Grutsky. I'm going to stop talking. No, I was nailed it. Haygood is currently serving eight years in prison for sex crimes and striking a plea deal last September. So he's getting eight years and this woman's getting like 99. But he's the one doing the assaying of the child. Yeah. Again, we're talking about a judge wearing a bow tie car.

Is everybody picking up on this? It's crazy. Captain Kangaroo court. The assistant district attorney said he probably deserved more than eight years. You think? Probably. Well, he was abusing a lot of his patients. The deal was approved so the doctor's victims didn't have to get on the stand and talk about details nobody ever wanted to talk about.

He put his wee-wee near my peepee. I'm assuming it's over than that. I don't know. They don't tell you in the article. So he first had his practicing license suspended in 2023 before being indicted of practicing without a license. That charge was also dropped as part of this plea deal. He has to register as a sex offender for life. but not only is he practicing medicine without a license,

he's essaying children and he only gets eight years. Yeah. Yeah. That's a creep, ladies and gentlemen. That's why he's in the scum parade. Now, Carl. Yes. Let's talk about something that is absolutely horrifying.

Male nurse? Yeah. This person went to great lengths to become a male nurse. Oh, the schooling is a lot. Oh, that's not what you're talking about. No, no. This is the story. I'll read it to you.

A transgender Michigan nurse has been accused of physical. physically abusing an infant girl who was born prematurely. Karen Ainsley 43 is charged of two counts of felony second-degree child abuse and two counts of misdemeanor fourth-degree child abuse. While working at Helen DeVos Children's Hospital in Grand Rapids, she allegedly brutally beat a four-month-old girl under his care, causing the infant to suffer multiple broken bones and bruising throughout her body, including her tongue.

So I'm assuming this kid was mouthing off where I probably called her a tranny or something. That's why you get beat up by these types of people. Yes, this premature baby did not respect his pronouns. Right. That's what I mean. It's talking to other babies like, this woman's a real piece of shit, huh? They're like, oh, we say man now. So this is, the baby was born in November, was set to be released from the hospital in April,

but her mother discovered the extensive injuries two days before her daughter's discharge date. Could you imagine, like, what you're fighting through with your kid? Months in ICU. Yeah, dealing with her shit. And then this asshole just beats up your fucking, uh, wood chipper. The infant had multiple fractures as well as broken bones,

according to court documents. She also had bruising of her hands, arms, thighs, buttocks, abdomen, and tongue. So you're saying the, uh, the trans person won that fight. Big time. Yeah, it sounds like it. I saw it with John, like after the crazy cabby fight, but maybe, maybe we don't have to go to the judges. We can just declare a winner.

The nurse, the winner. Yeah, I don't remember crazy. Cabby's tongue swelling out of his head. I like that the mom shows up to go check out her baby. And there's like, no, no, no, nothing to see here. Trying to stop her. And then she's like, sees the baby and is I'll beat up.

Are there no other nurses in this hospital? I mean, doesn't do shifts and stuff? How did he, how did he think he's going to get away with this? You know the other nurses aren't going to tell on the trans nurse. Oh, that's true. Yeah, that would be discrimination. Hey, listen, I saw, I saw Kieran slamming a baby up and down like he was, Bam, bam from the Flintstone.

just up and down on the floor. We don't talk about that. I videotaped it. Here's the audio. Jesus Christ. That is the actual audio. Boom. So the mom, everything's fine April sack, and her daughter was completely fine.

The mother tells police when she returns the next morning at 6.30 a.m., she's horrified because her child probably looked like this person. Oh, bitch, bitch. Ainsley had been assigned to care for the infant that night and acted strangely when the mother approached her daughter's room. The nurse allegedly jogged toward the hospital room to stop the mother from entering before saying that the infant had slept through the night. Yeah. Relaxed, Larry, lady.

But when the mom went inside to check on her daughter, she immediately noticed the injuries was appalled to find the infant's tongue was blue and almost black. Ainsley allegedly replied, quote, I've seen this in the past. Not a big deal. don't worry about your child's swollen tongue. The mom immediately reported her daughter's injuries to the hospital staff. An investigation was launched. Employees who were interviewed stated at the baby girl bed uninterred during the previous shifts.

Ainsley seemed flustered when questioned. Other workers described the nurse as scatterbrained, heated, overwhelmed, and in over his head. Well, I relate to that sometimes. And a statement to the Daily Mail, a spokesperson from Helen DeVos Children Center said our hearts go out to the patient, the patient's family. So yada, yada, yada. The former nurse is facing felony child abuse charges and those carry a penalty up to 10 years each if convicted. So never trust a male nurse, Carl. Mail nurses are not great. I bet before the transition, she was fantastic, though. We don't know that. I bet she was. But we don't know that. Let's hit up a couple super chats

before we get to our voicemails. I was told the stream has a husband and wife dynamic. I'm seeing it now. I see what you did there. I hope Viti reads at the super chat. Hi, Michael. Fuckface Vinnie P. FFVP. Another Creepoff channel membership from Lavern. Thank you, Labarmistic.

Appreciate it, buddy. Mikey to Mike Milk says, Hi, Vinny. Hi, Face. Afternoon, sirs. Afternoon, sir. Hi, Mikey. The voicemail segment of the creepoff is brought to you by our good friends in Syracuse.

The Crepeoff voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse. All New York residents are about to get two. $200 from Kathy Hokel, so you better buy your Syracuse real estate now. See you in Syracuse. Is that true? I'm going to 200 bucks from Kathy Hokel? Yeah. Really?

Yeah. Is it like a birthday present? What do they do to deserve this? You? Nothing. But apparently people paying ridiculous energy bills. She's doing the Trump thing. She's trying to buy everybody off.

Oh, okay. I mean, I pay ridiculous taxes. So I'd like to relief on that. Hey, Kathy, here's an idea. How would I stop paying state taxes? Can we do that? That'd be cool. I'd really like the taxpayer money to be spent wiser, frankly.

A bill's stadium? It's a nice stadium for the bills. It's a nice stadium. No, it isn't. The fucking seats don't even face the field. These people who designed it are idiots. Some of them are facing Lake Erie. That's not the point.

The point is a beautiful stadium. It looks great on TV. Oh, good. That's what's important, kids. Seriously, though, Kathy Hochel, I hate this bullshit. It was like, well, we'll give you some money. I give you money. How about you give me?

my money back idiots it's enough already $200 does that make you feel better No all right here's a consequence idea we still got to get this tandem wheel consequence spun figured out yeah I guess

Here's a suggestion Here's a mission for the wheel of consequences Record yourself Going to the baddest woman you could find And give her a compliment On how she looks They talk to you Give her some compliments

And put it on weight watchers So you want us to go up and you want us to go pig hunting? Yeah. And then film it and put it on the internet. That's kind of funny. That's not bad. Oh, man. Which planet fitness will we have to go to to find a fat woman?

Not hard. That's actually kind of funny. We just hang out in the parking lot of Walmart. Hey, girl. Looking thick. Here's some people throwing some stuff out. I got. Hey, Vinnie, uh, so yeah, I didn't know you changed your last name to, uh, Gizwaldi.

What the fuck? Why are you acting like Vito, bro? What are you? You're some butt hurt. Bitch all of a sudden? Fuck Carl, fuck shit. That's all he ever does. Probably's ever done. Why don't what would he ever change? I really think you've gotten your feelings here, Vinny. You might want to be careful with this, bro, because this is not going to be a good look, dude. This is really not going to be a good look for you, You go. Please tell me this was aware. Is this some sort of fuck? Did I miss something?

Holy fucking hell. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Bye, Vito. Bye, anonymous caller.

I'll be better. Vito Paulino, everyone. Oh, don't you do it. All right. Now listen, I'm very annoyed by this voicemail. Podcast profit has been leaving it over and over and over again. And I'll tell you why in a second. I'm annoyed by it.

Hey, boys, podcast. Brovier, Holy Spirit, is speaking through me. He recently lost my only black friend. He got mad at me because I said the N-word in front of him. I tried to explain that I was singing it in a song, and he goes, have you were singing happy birthday to me? So, yeah, I any who, it was pretty good. Vinny, unless he said it, like, where we couldn't hear it,

you're the one that called yourself fuck face. Carl, I don't believe, ever said the word. I know it was criticizing your audio because it's whatever the fuck you were doing. But a fuck face there, fuck face is huge. Thanks. You stole a joke. That was on Kill Tony. Some dude headed it is real.

It just, it was like Kill Tony shared it. I heard that joke. Like the day he sent it and he keeps leaving the same one. There's this guy Felix who asked me to be on his game show. What's it called? I forget. But, sorry Felix. I'm not calling it.

I was just emailing him with today. So I was top of mind. he wants to create the game show idea that I had, racist match game. Ooh. And I was like, oh, God, that's tempting.

Maybe I will come out to play a racist match game with you. I mean, you invented it. I did invent it. I really think it has slugs. All of the world's problems are caused by the blanks. The Norwegians? I mean,

I'm bad at this game. Hopefully you match the stars, Vinny. I don't know. We'll see. I don't see color. I'd be bad at that game. Uh,

I have to throw. a plug out speaking of games i was on shitty song of the week their newest episode dropped today excellent um the jody b my man yeah love jody b thank you for having me jody b and red so on there right yep jody b and red and uh i guess i competed up against a paul mccartney song that is god awful so like new paul mcartney no new paul mcotechut new paul hey jude we've talked about that you love the beetles they're your favorite band but you hate that song fucking amazing that's why i hate you bullshit. I feel like everything out of Wings was a half-beetle song.

Yeah, Wings has some good as a bangers. But there's some stuff that's all right. I don't know. Yeah, Wings has a banger. Say Jue's a Beatles song, but Wings has some bans. That is true. I keep forgetting. Yeah, I mean, it's right at the end there.

I brought one of the worst songs I've ever heard that I really hate. Hurricane by Bob Dylan. Oh, well, year did that come out? 1970-something. Okay. I don't know if I know. Maybe if I heard it. He comes this story of the hurricane.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It goes on for like nine minutes. Yeah, it's too much. Carl, I found out that he like... He hired a guy who was a playwright to help, like, write the lyrics to that, which is why it's so long. And there's lines that like, enter Patty Valentine from the outside hall. Does it need to be a subplot? What are we doing here?

It's so bad. Why we're talking about the B story and chorus four? So you can listen to dude if that type of thing strikes your fancy shitty shitty song of the week. Excellent. I should also say thank you to Pat Dixon for having me on. the on a show on compound, the New York City Crime Report. It's been a lot of fun doing those. Yes.

So a compound censored for that. And I guess that's all we got, Carl. It's been fun. Point, devil point. In an hour and a half, I'll be on there with Shulie and Lucy and Danny Sevelis. We'll be swinging by to talk about John's Big L that he took. Oh, I should mention this is kind of funny. I texted my buddy Aaron Imhol yesterday.

Ah. Because, you know, Aaron said that. that this is a good case by John and that I deserve this. I'm going to get my comments. I thought it was kind of stupid at the time. And it turns out I was completely right. But I was nice.

You know, I'm the bigger man. I'm the bigger person. Okay. So I texted there. I just said, I'm available to call in tomorrow morning if you want to discuss the ruling in the Southern General lawsuit. Which is, by the way, very generous of me.

I get requests to come on shows quite often. For me to reach out, be like, hey, man, I don't come out. This is a big deal in the dabble verse. People are talking about it. you can get the information straight from me I'll come on and talk to you on your show he wrote back the N-word to me

so he's edgy power hour he's edgy hey off hey uh speaking of offers to go on people's shows time didn't show up everybody oh time never made it time never showed up and he didn't even

respond to the email we got one more super chat that just came in and uh oh look at that we got a high five uh we got a hundred jewels I think that's like a penny. Thank you. Oh, thank you. A penny saved.

I have no idea what that means. Never poo-poo and nickel, Lisa. Swag Jad's checks in 6777. Thanks for the two bucks. Vinny Holsom. Carl Rockin. Biggest problem in the universe. I got gifted.

Sweet. Well, thank you for paying it forward. Appreciate you. Swag Jackson. Glad to have you here. Do we have anything on SuperTib dot Gigi slash creep? You know, I am paying attention right now and looks like we got. All right.

Nothing. Damn it. Hold on. I want to make sure. Hold on. Want me to come over there and check it? A fuck face? Come on over,

fuck face. Come on over. Come on. So it says I have one, but it's not showed up. I want to just double check, make sure I got this right. Give me a second. Woody! So everybody, the most mortif, there we go.

Nancrabb thanks for the five bucks. So I'm in Bangalore India today. It's 1.15 p.m. And if any bedtime stories really sucked, nightmares. Happy real Thanksgiving. Oh, Dancrabb. Thank you so much. Happy Thanksgiving to our Canadian friends. That's right.

And good luck in India. I saw an anchor I'm on, I think, Cardiff's show talking about. So don't, here's my advice if you're traveling through India. Do not breathe. Eat or drink anything. Only exhale. A lot of like breathing like you're having a baby. Just real quick inhale and out.

Get it out. All right. I got to go. All right. Carl's got to go. It's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. See you on Friday for the bonus, everybody.

See you then. Gigia.