The Creep Off - Episode 38: Creepsgiving: It’s Gotta be Gary

Episode Date: November 24, 2020

This week Karl & Vinnie search for Thanksgiving themed Creeps: Karl releases a new a Nick Bate cover track & some new consequences are added to the wheel: In this week’s Scum Parade we suggest a new slogan for the Gary Indiana tourism board and meet a Tree Hugger, a hungry Undercover FBI Agent and an even hungrier German High School Teacher

It's Thanksgiving special. Yeah, man. I never do any theme types of shows on Who are these podcasts. I always think they're fucking stupid. But this is fun today. It's the cream off. Disgusting. thing.

Ola Creepos. Welcome to another edition of the Internet's worst, most unnecessary contest, a show about creeps,

buy creeps for you creeps. It's the creep off. My name is Vini Paulino, and this is Cuck Cárla. What is happening? Vinie Paulino. I'm just happy to see you.

It's a holiday week. going to celebrate a little bit. The holiday has been canceled. So we're going to bring it to you. We're going to bring Thanksgiving to you, the fine people. That's right. I want you to turn this off. I don't want you to listen to it now.

I want you to wait till Thursday. I want you to download it. But wait till Thursday. You know, you and whoever your roommate is are sitting around a table, eating whatever you all call Thanksgiving. Right. And just listen to this show. It'll really brighten your spirits.

I doubt it. No, this show, as was pointed out by Sean, the audio engineer there in the beginning is not something that you should be listening to while eating food disgusting vomit inducing thing it was a little harsh i went on the dick show and he asked me who my favorite creep was and i talked about nick bait and that's a solid answer he did not want to hear about that story i watched the video uh somebody had sent me a clip of it yeah and his face was like why did i ask and i don't blame him because this is an acquired taste and i couldn't see him because i'm just on the discord so i just assumed that everyone's like

enjoying everything I'm talking about. They are not. It turns out. I think that we should start our very, very, very special celebration today. Okay. We always start out by looking at the voting from last week. You were in the lead four to two as of last week, which means that was a game point contest.

And am I spinning a wheel today or am I keeping it going? Carl, I know it's a nail bite. Who's the result, Murray? But. Oh, 53. percent of the vote going to come. Roy Nelsh was definitely a creep. You know, Carl, the words of the great dusty roads come to my mind right now.

Every dog has its day, baby. Congratulations. But I'm coming back today. The score is now four to three, so we're still game point. Vinny wins this contest, and I'm spinning next week. You are. But that will not happen. And we're going to talk about the wheel in a little bit because some people have been sending in suggestions and some of them are pretty good.

Oh, cool. Okay. Yeah. I always like updating the wheel of consequences. Well, we're going to have to because the Nick Bate consequence, you know. Yep. Has to come off. Yeah. So very good, very good. Now, let's start talking about this week's creep. Happy, happy turkey day. Hunger pains will go away. We are celebrating Thanksgiving. with the creepiest Thanksgiving themed creep, I guess.

I don't fucking know. I think you might be on the verge of overproducing this show, Vinny. I just really like this jingle palette thing. I just have a little fun. You had other work to do besides this podcast and half ass it a little bit. Who does? Now you're just like, you have so much time on your hands. You're putting way too much effort into the show.

All right. I'll stop. I apologize everyone for the effort. As you should. Shame. Yeah. So Thanksgiving creep. some rules like the crime either had to be committed on Thanksgiving or the arrest had to happen on

Thanksgiving. That's what Carl and I set the rules on. And we both agreed on that, right Carl? Yes. Okay. So that means because you won last week, you get to go first. That's right. Let's start the creep off. Let's do it. I'm going to start since it is about Thanksgiving and the creepest creep on Thanksgiving. I have a list of people that I think should be acknowledged here. Andrew Cuomo, Lori Lightfoot, Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer. These are all people trying to cancel Thanksgiving, probably successfully. Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch. If those are the biggest creeps, if you think those are creeps, then vote for me this week.

But actually, who I want to talk about is a first-round draft pick for the Carolina Panthers. One wide receiver, Ray Carruth. Now, this is a good story, and I'm kind of mad you're doing it. 27th pick overall by the Carolina Panthers had a decent rookie year. was injured in his sophomore year and then his third year started out very promising he looked like he was going to be a star in the league but some problems happen let's back up let's talk about ray caruth in college as a sophomore at the university of colorado his girlfriend michelle wright had given birth to his son and he was grudgingly paying child support although

he only paid half you know guys paid child support who are happy about it carl that's a good point but he argued and he only paid half of what he was supposed to pay because he said that he would be involved as the father of the boy he was not he was not involved at all paid her half of what he was supposed to pay so listen i'm going to pay you half and i'll actually talk to the kid or you can have the whole thing and just raise it yourself yeah what an option so he's still in college now now he's a senior and his girlfriend amber turner who had moved with him from Colorado to North Carolina had become pregnant in 1998. According to Turner, Carruth ordered her to get an abortion, saying that he was not going to have kids with

someone he wasn't going to be with, and threatened her, saying that he could send someone to kill her. Those football booster clubs, they really do back the players 100%. You could just call one of those guys. And some, a couple of alums are going to grab their shotguns. Yeah, there's a lot of hangers on, too. A lot of you want to be involved with professional athletes. Turner decided to terminate the prudency. She had an abortion after getting these threats from Ray Caruth. Fast forward to Ray's next girlfriend, the next one in line. And this is a woman whose name is Sharika.

And Sharika lets Ray Caruth know that she is pregnant. Man, Ray Caruth does not wear a condom. No, he does not. That's one thing we know for sure. He's his first round talent, buddy. He doesn't have to. He's knocking up a lot of chicks. Sharika is excited to start a family.

She's excited that she's pregnant. She's really into Ray Carruth. And so now she's going to give birth. And so she tells him the news and was a little disappointed with the way that he responded. She was really, really disappointed in Ray's reaction to her pregnancy. Yeah. His reaction was, I will kill you, bitch. You better get a divorce.

Yeah, that would be a disappointment. I would imagine to have that response. So Ray's decision is I do not want to pay child support, which is going to be around five. thousand dollars a month he signed a three million dollar contract and he doesn't want to pay five thousand dollars well once the agents get involved and the managers that's a good point don't forget uncle sam car all right all good points which is why he decided rather than pay monthly he would just make one payment and he told me to come over his house and uh he asked me do i know where he can get a gun at i was like why why you wanted a gun and he was like he was wanting to um get shirika

because she was pregnant and he didn't want to pay no $5,000, another $5,000 and $1,000 a month in child support. So his reaction is, I don't want to pay child support, but I will purchase a gun and kill you. So he's telling

his buddy, where can I get a gun? So his buddy says, well, that's not really what I do, but I know a guy who you can talk to. This is the murder for hire, the hitman, talking about his conversation with Ray Caruth. He called me, and I met him.

So he said, how much would it take to beat up a girl and make her abort a baby? I said, I don't know if you can't hear that. So I don't know if you could hear that, but Ray asked how much to beat up a girl so that she has an abortion to abort the baby. And his response is, I don't beat up girls, I murder them. That's what his job is. Yeah, well, you want to hire a professional. You want to get a professional. So let's find out with the murder plot.

was what I want me he said I want my man to ride with you he was talking about William he said ride with you he said well we need the movies he said I'm gonna call you and I want y'all to follow me down this role right here he was gonna stop and he wanted the guy that was riding with us to um to shoot the girl that he had pregnant all right so basically what's happening here is shirica is following she's driving her car and she's following ray who's driving his car with his buddies in it. He's like, come on, baby. We're going to go to the babies are us and set you up. You just follow me. She's eight months pregnant. She's following behind Ray Carruth. And Ray's car stop. So she has to stop. A car drives up next to her and shoots right through the window at

Sharika. What are the odds? Is hit. Sharika is it multiple times, but is able to make a 911 call that ultimately put Ray away. This is said call, the beginning of it. Wow. Number one. They need police fire or ematic. I'm three months pregnant. Okay, ma'am, you're eight months pregnant.

You've been shot. You're at Wessex Square. Community. Very impressive that she was able to get on her phone. This is 1999 we're talking about. Get on her phone. Explain that she must have had singular. Yeah, I know, right?

There are a lot of places. People don't remember this. In 1999, depending on where you were, in the world, you could possibly not be able to make a phone call. Correct. All the time. Yeah. You constantly just be like, oh, I can't call anyone right now.

I still don't trust Sprint. Well, yes, I don't trust Sprint. All right, so this is the next part of this conversation where she explains what happened. Where's your husband name? I don't have one. Oh, your boyfriend. The one you said that was with him. He was in the car in front of me and he closed down and put him.

And then where he got? He's a woman. Okay. All right. What's his name? She's like a roozy, like a little bit of her. Oh. What's his name?

Drake, Rudy 9. She's such a fan girl. Number 89, you know, he caught the touchdown last week. Did you see it? Boy, did she finger him that tattel tail. Well, isn't that funny? I don't think Ray was counting on her to be a live long enough to make a phone call. No, he was that.

Because, like, where'd your boyfriend go? Oh, after I got shot, he drove away. Oh, that's not really a good sign right there, I would imagine. Hey, Casey just chimed in. She said she can't make phone calls in part of her house. Well, that's, she lives with the sticks. So that makes sense. Why is Casey interrupting my...

I did it. I wanted to ruin your flow. I know, you're ruining my flow. Yeah. So... This is too good. Shereka's mom, this woman, Sandra Adams, she decides, because she is at the hospital. And, you know, they're being operated on.

They're trying to save the baby. They're trying to save Shariqa. She decides. I better call Ray. He probably doesn't even know this is all going on. They met me and told me that Sharika was already in surgery to have the baby by Ciceroon section. I immediately decided, oh, my God, I got to call Ray because I bet he doesn't know what's happened. You're a stupid dumbass.

Nope, Ray's pretty aware. Ray's pretty aware. Now, as you could imagine, Penny, being the baby in someone who is shot multiple times is not good. You know, they came out and told me that they had to revive Chancellor and that he had severe damage to his brain because of the lack of oxygen and blood. And so, you know, you're hearing all this from the doctors and still no Ray. So they actually save Chancellor the Sun, which is miraculous. It's amazing. It's amazing.

Ray finally shows up to the hospital where his guy. girlfriend is trying to hang on to her life. Because he was worried the baby was going to testify. Like, what is this idiot to do it? So he finally shows up and makes a little bit of a scene. Finally, he comes in with an entourage.

Ray comes in with the guy that did go to the movies with him. It was his friend Hannibal. And he actually came with another woman. I went over like a mad woman. I let him know that I know you

You knew what happened. You know what happened. This guy's a real scumbag. He just put out a hit on his girlfriend, pregnant a girlfriend that shows up to the hospital with his new girlfriend. This fucking player, man. He's something else. And you know the mom's yelling at him?

He's like, not in front of my girl. Not in front of my girl. Yeah. Oh, God. So the reason why I brought Ray Carruth this week is because he was that arrested on Thanksgiving Day. Because he was a suspect in this. Obviously, they had the 911 call.

She actually was alert enough for a time at the hospital that she was able to tell investigators what had happened. Wow. So obviously he was a suspect in all of this because of the role that he played. And it was pretty sloppy. The cops, like, are you number 89 for the Carolina? So, yeah, right. So it was pretty sloppy the job that our buddy Ray Caruth did. Now, December 14th rolls around.

You have Sharika who's been on life support. they decided to pull the plug. So now she's officially passed away from these injuries, making it a murder case. Up until that time, this was not a murder case. Now it is. And Ray's not excited about that at all. He got a message on his answering machine from his attorney who said that Trinca Adams had passed away. About 10 o'clock that night, he decided I'm going to contact an old friend, Wendy Cole.

And he said he begged her to take him. to California. So he knows this chick who's going out to California. You know, they're in North Carolina. He's like, I need you to trade me to the 49ers. Yeah, right. Begging for a train. Is there a Canadian football team I can go play for?

Damn it. So he decides. The man of Tova Mountain, man. He decides he's going to get in a car with her and drive out to California. They get to Tennessee. They don't get too far. They get to Tennessee. The FBI is on to them.

The FBI agent tracks down this woman at a hotel that they're in and says, where's Ray? Do you know where he is? And she kind of gestures towards the car keys and they go, oh, okay. So this is the FBI agent talking about finding great truth in the trunk of her car. I said, Ray, yeah, this is Mark Post. I'm with the FBI and I have agents surrounded the car. Ray's not here, man. Come back later.

We pop the trunk just enough for your hands to come out. that's the first thing I want to see is those hands come up and his hands came right out you know what else he had in the trunk two full bottles of his urine he was hiding in there for quite a while I don't know what the end game was there

they'll never find me in this trunk different people train different ways Carl doesn't mean he's guilty that's true he had 3,900 hours cash and his own urine so he comes out he goes to trial and he was found guilty on many charges

they found him guilty of conspiracy to commit murder aiding and abetting, if you will, acting in concert. They found him guilty of firing into an occupied vehicle, felony murder. In addition, they found him guilty of trying to kill the unborn child. And they found him not guilty of first degree murder, which they did not follow the law. So he could have gotten a death penalty, but they did not find him guilty of first degree murder because one juror would not go along with it.

One guy was like, nope, not doing it. So the result, Ray Carruth is a free man today. Did you know that? I know he just got out of jail like a year ago, did he? Just a couple of years ago. He got out of jail. How's Chancellor? Let's see how chance.

Let's check it on Chance. Who has more CTE? Ray or Chancellor? So Chancellor is 21 years old now. This was 1999. This all happened. And this is how Chancellor is doing it with his life. Oh, no.

Now, what do you call your grandmother? Can you call? And what do you call? you call Oh, Carl Oh, there you go. Mommy angel. And you'll say it again?

Goa. There you go. He has cerebral palsy. He kind of reminds me of, what was the kid in Breaking Bad, the son? Walter, Jr. Yeah, Walt Jr. Oh, what was his name, Flynn?

When he changed his name to Flynn? Yeah, that's right, yes. Would he hit puberty? He kind of reminds me of that if that guy had it like 30 times worse. This guy has a really hard time walking around doing anything and what's amazing capable what's amazing is that the shirika's mom this sandra adams has been raising him ever since this incident occurred now ray caruth thought

once he got out of prison that he would be a part of this boy's life oh did he also says he wants to be part of their son's life when he's released yeah that's right robin he does caruth will be released in just months and he wants custody of his son the son who was almost killed in the shooting that Carruth planned, the shooting that killed the boy's mother. What an asshole! Hey, can I just be that kid's father now? No. This guy is a real jerk.

It's a real jerk. And, wow. Sandra explains that she's actually still afraid of Ray Caruth. Ray would never come back here and do anything, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't send someone. So I am a little anxious, and I'm not going to live. in fear, but I'm taking a lot of precautions because he usually gets somebody else to do his dirty work.

And we're going to protect me. Isn't that fucking crazy? She's still concerned this guy's going to hire someone to go after them? I mean, with what money? He's not paying child support? I mean, he probably didn't. The reason why he wanted to murder people is because it was $5,000 a month, many. Let's remember that.

That was the motivation behind this. He's not just some psycho who goes out killing people random. And he got those guys. to come like kill her for what a couple autographed jerseys and some tickets you know what that's the one thing they never talk about what the payment was going to be for that i mean he didn't want to spend five thousand dollars a month it was he had to lowball these guys they didn't sound like they could afford a microphone so i doubt they took very much money the guy who pulled the trigger is a scary motherfucker man i him in trial was telling the attorney that he could kill him with his bare hands

it was like okay maybe you should have brought that guy's a creep that guy's a creep yes he is But Ray Carruth is the best. And I have to say that Sharika's mom is actually pretty amazing. She has forgiven the person who shot her daughter. She's forgiven Ray Caruth for setting this up. And she even says this. I'm more loving and compassionate than I ever thought I could be. And for that, I really have Ray Carruf's a thank.

So because she's had to step up and care for her grandson with cerebral palsy, She's actually thankful to Ray Carruth for giving her that opportunity and showing her how good of a person she can be. This woman's amazing. My eyes are rolling into the back of my head. This one's amazing. Virtue signaling. This woman's amazing. Virtue signaling.

Except for, I just thought this was an interesting part of the story. Except for one thing. The name Sharika. How does she come up with the name? That's kind of an odd name, right? It's not very common. Did you go to school with any Sharikas? Probably.

Probably a couple. So this is how she came up. the name for her daughter. She was almost about to be named after the vacuum cleaner, Eureka. Because I thought, oh, that's got a nice little sound to it. And I thought, no, I don't want to, I don't

want her to be associated with dirt. She wanted to name her Eureka, but thought she'd get made fun of because there's a vacuum cleaner. By the way, Eureka, that word was around long before there was a vacuum cleaner. You could have named her Eureka. But she also loves share. So she decided

to combine the two. She share, Wow. That's insane. I can't tell if that's brilliant or completely mad. It's really dumb. It's really stupid. If I found out that I was named after a vacuum cleaner and share, I would be upset. You are, you probably are named after some stupid German vacuum cleaner. Probably. It's a call. Fair enough. Space Thanksgiving. All right, is it my turn. It's your turn. Ray Kruis, sorry I went so long, but that was a fascinating. That is a good story. And I'm going to try to bust through these.

I got a lot of clips this week. Okay. Where to start? My creep's name is Paul Michael Marriage. Okay. And Paul Michael is one of those members of a family that just makes everyone else uncomfortable. Like, kind of like me when I come over for Thanksgiving. Like nobody talks to me in my family.

I just sit there quietly. I can see that. Yeah. They have nothing to say to me. Like, that's fine. Your in-laws can't believe you're still showing up. Like, you haven't divorced this guy yet. What is going on?

And you brought him here from New York? Yes. They're losing bets every year that goes by. Yeah. Not wrong. But I'm just saying that I kind of get that feeling of resentment towards your family at occasion. And this guy had a lot of issues with his parents.

He had a lot of issues with his family. So in his mid-30s, Carl, these resentments started spilling over. And he started having problems with his twin sisters, like to the point where, well, let me just tell you a little bit. So his sisters were his twin or he has twin sisters? He had two, a set of twin sisters. He's not a twin sister. Yeah, gotcha.

So he would get upset that the parents were favoring the sisters, and it was like a theme throughout his life. This kid had some emotional problems. Okay. But here's just a little recap about the type of crazy guy he was. That Paul Marriage had a long history of mental instability and made numerous threats to kill himself and his twin sisters. One of his sisters would eventually get a restraining order against him that would be dropped weeks later. So do you realize how scary you have to be as a sibling for your sister to go get? well how old was he at this time in his 30s oh okay yeah so thanksgivings coming up and the family

you know they want to be together at the holidays right carl i doubt it i thought you want to be with the guy i mean she dropped the restraining order okay so here's an email that the mother sent to a friend of hers about her thanksgiving plans and i just uh i want you to understand the tone before dinner and after dinner from the mother okay so here you go marriage's mother carroll emailed a friend two days before about her excitement over the get-together. We are leaving tomorrow until Sunday. Everyone is going, including Paul. It will be interesting to say the least.

Dinner should be yummy. From your lips to God's ears, honey. Who communicates like that? Dinner should be yummy? A mom, just some mother. But, yeah. I hope she's murdered by the end of this story. Dinner was interesting, Carl.

But here's just, we'll go through it a little bit. On Thanksgiving Day 2009, Paul Michael Marriage was enjoying the holiday with his family at his cousin's house in Jupiter, Florida. After eating dinner, they gathered around the piano to sing Christmas in church songs. Now, that sounds like hell to me. Dude, I hate this family. This family doesn't actually exist in real life. This is all made up.

Well, you were the only one who hated this family. Okay. Because, you know, everything started off pretty okay. So far, so good. Sure. They all had dinner. Now they're all singing their bullshit songs. And then I'm going to play a clip I affectionately refer to as heel turn.

The Joyous Family Event soon turned into a nightmare after 35-year-old Paul Marriage left the house and returned with a gun. Paul shot and killed his 33-year-old twin sisters, Carla Marriage, and Lisa Knight. Lisa was pregnant at the time. Marriage also shot his brother-in-law, Patrick Knight, who had to be placed in a medically induced coma for three months. He then shot and killed his 76-year-old aunt, Ramonda Joseph. After shooting Raymonda once in the shoulder, her husband, Paul's uncle, tried to stop the bleeding as he cowered on the floor next to her. Paul Marriage shot his aunt once more in the chest before turning the gun on his uncle.

However, the gun did not fire after Paul attempted to shoot him twice. During the massacre, marriage could be heard saying, I have been waiting 20 years to do this. Yeah. I thought he was going to say, do you feel lucky, punk? Nope. Do you? Nope. A little bit of a dramatic read, but it does tell the story pretty well.

I think it's funny about that, though. This is what doesn't make sense. I'm sure you'll clear all this up. So the guy says I've been waiting 20 years to murder everyone in my family. He shows up to the get-together, has to leave to go get a gun, and they come back again. It was probably in the car. Show up with the gun in the first place. Well, this lunatic sat there and ate dinner with everyone, knowing that.

Was it a yummy? Yeah, it was a yummy dinner. They sat down for a yummy Thanksgiving dinner. And all this guy was thinking about is, I know it's coming for dessert. You motherfuckers are eating lead. Yeah. Well, that's not all, Carl. That's not all.

So the uncle is not killed at this point. The uncle is bleeding, but he's not dead. And he's covering, he's holding, and the uncle's like elderly because this was the wife of a 79-year-old woman. Right. Yeah. So, uh, Paul keeps on moving through the house. He then entered the room of his cousin's six-year-old daughter, Michaela Sitten. As Michaela slept in her bed, Paul marriage shot her and then left the room.

She's sleeping through this. Wait, hold on a second. Kids suck. She's fucking sleeping through this. You are the least helpful kid ever. Could you get on 9-1-1-1 or something? Holy shit. Okay, I'm sorry.

All right, no problem. As Michaela slept in her bed, Paul Marriage shot her and then left the room before quickly returning to shoot her again. He shot her a total of three times, once in the back, hip, and head. He then drove away in his blue 2007 Toyota Camry. Toyota, let's go places. That was a weird. Carl.

Yes. He shot and murdered a six-year-old. Can I point out that that was actually mercy? I would say that there was a mercy. there, that girl was going to wake up to see their entire family had been slaughtered. Not everybody was dead. He left his parents, Carl. His parents watched this.

Oh, his parents. Now, here's a fun fact I want you to know about this. Okay. The sittens, the people who own the house, the cousins, did not invite him. Okay. His parents invited him. Bad move. Yeah. So you think there's some guilt there? Is that what you're thinking?

I think there's a little bit of guilt there, but I do want to remind everyone, this is very important. Yeah. That whenever someone escapes in a Toyota Camry on Thanksgiving. Toyota Thorn is on. I'm sure to think the trunk that he was in, I think that that was a Toyota that Ray Caruth was found in. It must have been.

This has got to be a theme. Toyota, let's go places. Away from crime scenes. Yeah, let's go places. To Tennessee. So this guy, he murdered the kid and he runs away. And he's on the lamb. They don't catch him until January.

Okay. Okay. Now, the father is still alive. His daughter was murdered. His wife is gone. His life is destroyed, and he begs the court to kill this guy. Paul Marriage, after all this time, some things started coming out about him and, like, how crazy he was. Listen to what this weirdo was up to before the shootings happened.

Medical records show Paul Marriage, the man in prison for killing four family members in Jupiter, was controlled by obsessive, compulsive behavior. Documents of tape are a news partner's at the Palm Beach Post show marriage's behavior included sometimes wearing two pairs of underpants and taking showers for five hours. Records also reveal he tried to commit suicide at least twice and told psychiatrist that he couldn't get death out of his mind. So he wore two pairs of underwear and would take like five hour long showers. Anything you didn't do when you were 13, Carl? I know. This is not that big of a deal. But I'm saying he's 35 years old and he's wearing two pairs of underwear like he's trying to hide a boner like a kid. But this is what I don't understand.

That's why you wear two pairs of underwear. You're trying to hide a boner? Isn't it? I don't know. I've never heard of that. So what I think is interesting is that... Well, obviously you didn't have the problem. Are you trying to say I have a small dick now when I was 13? He tried to say the 13 young girl on a small dick. Is that what your point is? Let's see that dick. No, how dare you? I told you. I'm not going to do that. How dare you? How dare you? Uh, so what was I say? Okay. Well, he attempted suicide twice. He sucks at suicide. Homicide is amazing at. First time he tries it, he's able to do it multiple times, but he can't kill himself. How is that possible? Well, on the lamb he went and he purchased a book on how to kill yourself there's a book like that

yeah it's called uh the author doesn't know he should know it's a shitty book Carl straight through the bullshit it's a stupid of bullshit but yeah he bought a book he bought like uh he bought all sorts of stuff he bought masking tape uh helium tanks he was like gonna fucking put plastic bags over his head and like he was healing him to kill himself. He didn't do it.

He did get... That's the fucking stupidest way I've ever heard of to kill yourself. Just let the car run. Let the Toyota run in the garage. He thought he was just going to float away. Just let like to run. What the fuck is wrong with people? So would you like to hear how they captured him five weeks later?

I wanted how big of a book this is. How to kill yourself? How many pages is this? This might end up on the wheel. We would have to do a book report. Okay. Chapter a show. This is, I titled this clip, Carl.

pitiful capture. Ironically, when Marshall's burst into marriage's room, the man who is charged with coldly shooting into a crowd of his relatives, including that six-year-old sleeping in her tinkerbell pajamas, they say that he threw his hands

in the air and begged, don't shoot me. They didn't, but they did taser him three times. That's awesome. God, if I had a taser, I would use it multiple times a day. It's got to be so much fun. Now, the parents, inviting this kid to Thanksgiving, and I told you there would be a second email from the mother.

This is another email to a friend from the mother expressing her remorse and how horrible she feels over the whole situation. Four days later, his anguish mother responded to a friend's email with this. We are devastated. The pain is too much to bear. Why? Why? Why? Where is God? Great question. But not the time for the question. Why did you invite your child who wasn't invited over to someone's house who you knew was crazy? So... Unconditional love, Vinnie.

That's what families do. This guy pled guilty. He avoided the death penalty. He got seven consecutive life sentences. So he's fucked. But there was a lawsuit after it. The father of the daughter sued this guy's parents. The sit-ins also filed a lawsuit against marriage's parents, alleging they had invited him to the gathering without warning them that their son might be dangerous.

The lawsuit was eventually dismissed in 2012 after it was determined that the marriage had no legal right or ability to control the actions of their son. He was 35. Yeah, no shit. That's a crazy lawsuit. You think that's a crazy lawsuit? Yeah. Well, allow me to one up it, my friend.

Okay, let's hear it. The marriages filed a countersuit against the Sittans in 2011, alleging the Sittans were to blame for the blood bath. What? Yeah. Just let it go, guys. Hold on, here's a little more detailed explanation. So now the parents are suing the people whose house it was.

Kelly, it's a surprising turn of events. events, an unusual development bet that puts the victim's parents, Jim and Muriel Sitton, on the defense as the killer's parents fire back with their own lawsuit. In this counterclaim filed just before Thanksgiving this year, Michael and Carol Marriage now say Jim and Muriel Sitton knew their son had mental problems, and because of that, the Sittons should never have allowed Paul Marriage to enter their Jupiter home Thanksgiving night. This is like stuttering John-level lawsuit, like just sue everyone. They were using my copyrighted material.

Yeah. What the f- All right. These people are nuts. All suck. Every one of them sucks. Well, they live in Jupiter, Florida. So I would like to point out a couple of things before I arrest my case.

I bet Casey lives near there, too. Yeah, it's probably your cousin. So, number one, okay, Carl, your story had one pregnant woman shot. Mine had one pregnant woman shot and killed. This is where you go into your thing. Her twin sister murdered. This is where you go into your thing. A 79-year-old octogenarian.

Just make your case. You don't have to. to make a case against my case. Yes, I do. That's why it's the game. I'll tell you why. I'm on gay point, son. I'll tell you why Ray Caruth is a bigger creep

because he went through and actually worked with a bunch of different people to go through with this murder over $5,000 of all these making millions of dollars. Yeah. He was a star. He would have been a star in the NFL. Well, he was not a star when it came to murder. My guy was a first round murder

pick. If you were starting a murder team Carl and you had the first pick, are you picking marriage or you picking Carruth? Yeah, good point. All right, you got me there. Yeah, I do. And don't forget everybody. Vote for Vinny!

Thank you, Carl. I appreciate it. You flip that, you motherfucker. Thank you, everybody. Here's the thing about Wang. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to vote, visit the creepoff.com and just look for the little poll on the right sidebar. You could vote for Carl and Ray Carruth, or you could vote for Vinny and Mr. Marriage over here. And next week, I could very well win, and Carl will be spinning the wheel.

So make sure you think about this carefully before you play. before you vote this week, everybody. What would you rather see? Carl actually be punished instead of just writing pretty songs that he likes to sing anyway. I'm not even writing these songs. They were already written.

Okay. Well, you're just having a good old tie with your consequences. You always have a good tie with your consequences. I do. Since you brought that up, why don't I give you an update

on the Nick Bate cover album? Lay it on me. I have another song to premiere for us today. And it's this one, this classic toe tapper that we all love. I freaking hate vaginas, vaginas really suck. Just try to get the beat.

Anuses are the only thing that I like to fuck. I'm very proud of what I was able to put together for this one, Vinny. Oh, God, yes. This is my best work yet. You ready? Yep. I hate for China's You sure you didn't write that

Dude suck Aituses are the only things That I like to talk You sure you didn't write that? Dude, I had to detune my guitar And learn the wrong notes to play I try to mask that, mimic that perfectly I'm proud of you, Carl.

Thank you, buddy. I thought you'd like that one. That was pretty good. Were you any voicemails this week? Oh, did we? Let's start at the beginning. Our good friend, imbecile, decided to chime in. Inbecile here.

I wanted to congratulate Vinny on his pre-show announcement. Yes, last show that he does not give a shit about audio. So refreshing. It is like hearing a pilot state that he does not give a shit about flight safety. For a chef that he does not give a shit about salmonella. But I vote for the Rochester Rattlesnake, Stone Cold Carl Hamburger, whatever the fucky's our name is. Oregon! The Rochester Rattlesnake, Stone Cold Carl Hamburger.

All right. I love it. Thank you very much and beside it. I don't know if that's going to work. got a t-shirt. You'll be able to fit it on one of your shirts. You can fit a lot of words on the shirts you wear. Yeah, that's true.

Here's some people praising you. Hey, Krip-off. This is the message for Carl. Carl, I know you get a lot of shit on the Krip-off. Almost all of it deserves. But I'm proud of you this time. I'm actually proud of you. Because you didn't go for the easy joke last week on the truck.

episode was he didn't say it was Andy I'm proud of you call yep no I appreciate actually playing that one I'm surprised and another one I will say that Vinnie did send me a tax that said this week's category is truckers not named Andy I did do that that was the rule so you're welcome sir the fuck was that episode guys this is we went back in time to a creepious garbage man but the roles were reversed one of you went for a creepy A big creepy. The other one went for someone who actually applies to the topic. Vin, you just, that's just a creepy guy who just so happened to have a job as a truck driver.

Carl, his... Yeah. Carl's guy wasn't even a garbage man. ...took place inside the fucking truck. Yes, thank you. I did deserve it. If any wins this one, then it's definitely... I mean, we all know everyone loves Vaney and Winnie people's champ, but...

We do? I don't know that. I don't know that. Carl, I think you've got to go after that media. It's really putting things in his favor. Binnie Spinney. Okay. Vinny Spinney.

Actually, I went all the way to the third page of Google for that creep, so I definitely deserved the victory. You agree with that logic, do you? I don't want to get into it. Because I was going to say, if that's the logic, then, Mike, my massacre. I changed the rules all the time. If you Google Jupiter Thanksgiving Massacre, you're going to find my guy. Like, my massacre happened on Thanksgiving.

No one remembers that Ray Carruth was arrested on Thanksgiving in the trunk of a car with two pissed jugs. That's why I told you that so that you would remember it. All right. I don't expect you to know the whole story. That's why I brought it. All right. Well, let's close on a high note, shall we? And, Vitty, don't ever accuse me of following the rules.

I will never ever do that. Okay. I understand. You know, it really creeps me out. When people on, like, you know, football shows or, I don't know, podcast, start talking about shaving. my nuts. I really don't need you to be talking about that. It's really pervy and really disgusting. Fuck you, Carl. Vinny Winnie, people's champ. Now, I would like to ask you a question, in all sincerity, in all honesty, I'm asking for the creep off audience here. When you're on

WATP and a nut shaving company says, we're going to pay you some money, how much does it cost to get you to talk about shaving your nuts during your own podcast, Carl? What do you get out of that? I also get free product samples from it, too, but it's not just a currency exchange. How fun was it yesterday when I got to ask Brian Johnson from, tell him Steve Dave, if he shaves anywhere, because the guy has a beard. It's ridiculous. The guy has not shaved it a long time. And to find out that he does shave his back, and I assume his asshole and nuts as well, promo code WATP 20% off and free shipping at manscaped.com. Disgusting thing.

No nicks when you use the lawnmower 3.0. Can I ask you a question, though, since you brought that up? What advertiser, because you have advertisers, I mean, I'm looking at the three heads brewing behind me here and your show as sponsors. Who would you turn down? What would be a sponsor that you wouldn't read the ad copy for? Who is that pizza place that the QAnon people rated? Okay. That's a good answer.

Okay. I would read an ad for any pizza place any day of the week, but not that one. Okay. Okay. So let's talk about email, shall we? We got one front to our email. the creepoff pot at gmail.com from our buddy cam remember cam car it's been a while since we've heard from me buddy he had two suggestions for the wheel of consequences okay great first one you're gonna

hate this loser has to make a five episode long 20 plus minute per episode podcast on a topic that the winner decides oh okay it's a little bit too long but i like the premise i like the premise we have to produce a podcast on a topic that we definitely do not want to be talking about right but how how many five times 20 that's that's too much because no one's going to listen to it i don't know it depends on how much work you put into it it's got to be a consequence can it be like a half an hour long podcast or something well it's a 20 minute episode well he wants five 20 minute episodes i think it should be a five parter let's say we'll split the difference we'll go 10 minutes each okay all right but they have to be done well and done seriously

dude one of i ever made a podcast and done it well i'll do my best. Same year. We'll agree to do our best. So off the top of your head, if you had to decide, like, say, I lost and I had to spend, what topic would you give me? Oh, what's something that you would, oh, punk rock. History of punk rock. I love punk rock. Oh, you do? You always make fun of it. I do, but it's because it's worthy of being made fun of. Everybody who's into it takes it way too seriously. I got to rethink this then. For you, I would go, uh, learning how to be nice to people. Like kindness. Kindness. It would be fine. I want you to do. Five part, ten minute to think about kindness.

I was reading this book. All that I needed to know in life, I learned in kindergarten. And it taught me many amazing things that I didn't know before. I can imagine you in kindergarten. Teachers just talking about colors. Like, what are you even saying? What are we going to learn the alphabet? What are we even doing?

What are we even doing? I know what fucking red is. The duck's yellow. Quack, quack, quack. Get on with that. It wasn't always this big of an asshole, but he. You were just the worst kid. I evolved into it.

All right. Second one, I don't know if I like this idea as much, but we'll get it out there because it was from Cam. Loser has to hold a live Q&A with 50 questions that the fans sent in. The winner gets to vet the questions and decide what the loser has to answer. A live Q&A. Yeah. I mean, you kind of did that when you did your- It's a little too convoluted, I think.

I'm going to pass on that one. But we did have another one, and I lost the email. Okay. Whoever sent it in it was brilliant. Loser has to put truck nuts on their car until the next person spins again. That's fucking funny. Yeah, I like that one. All right.

So truck nuts going on the wheel and podcast, I guess podcast series, it'll go on the wheel too. Okay. If we could agree. All right. Very cool. So are you ready for a scum parade, Carl? I am ready for the scum parade. Let me just hit the jingle.

Do it. The scum parade is nothing for creeps. The scum parade on Kara Land in each show. I kind of miss Rock Brigade sometimes. All right. I just like to have the energy of Rock Brigade, but all right. You know what I got to do with Rock Brigade? I've been thinking about it.

It's too long. When I look over my board, it says 39 seconds. I'm like, oh, that's too long. I just got to get right to the chorus. Yeah. I got to skip the verse. on that one. People are listening like, what are they even talking about?

Well, the reason why I kept the verse in on this song, I'll just play a little bit of it for you. Well, in the middle of the night and the early morning light, you can see these are creeps from miles away. They'll be banging their kids and banging siblings, driving off a cliff with

children on board. Driving off a clip with children on board was the lyric that I really wanted to get in there. Because that story was fucking amazing. The guy's got his kids in the car. He's like, I'm driving up That's cliff. People are getting stabbed. The whole that was a crazy.

Oh, wait. There's a lot of stories with people throwing kids off of cliffs. I know which one you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. No, this was the one where the guy was driving. I forget they were... San Diego.

Yeah, in San Diego. And he literally drove his car off a cliff with the children in it. They just let the kids out. They're going to go kill yourself. Fucking idiot. All right. Well, talk of, speaking of idiots. So we start down in Florida.

Or actually, I'm sorry, Georgia. Okay, yes. And a hairbraided ultimate. I love this woman, Kimberly. Dude, I added this just for you. We're doing extra story this week because this is brilliant. And a hairbanded, ultimately unsuccessful in time to score some free food, a Georgia woman posed as an FBI agent while demanding grottis grub from a chick filet. She was pretending to be an FBI agent in order to get free food.

Where's that Ronnie drop? Everybody's down the floor. Everybody get down! Get down! Last Thursday morning, police received a suspicious person call from employees at an eatery. 9-1-1 call reported that a suspect who was in a white van was identifying themselves as a federal agent and trying to get free food. When cops arrived at the Chick-fil-A around nude, they approached the white Dodge Grand Caravan, whose driver was later identified as Kimberly Ragsdale. And let me tell you something, she looks like a Ragsdale.

Yeah, she doesn't look like an FBI agent. No, she doesn't. She doesn't even look like she can work at the Chick-fil-A, let alone the fucking FBI. Yeah, I'd be suspicious if she was employed. Right. What I'm going to be employed by the FBI. Asked by an officer if she had been identified herself as a federal agent. Ragsdale stated that she was a federal agent.

Yeah, he asked for credentials. And she pulled that move. She's like, oh, yeah, I got my credentials right here. She shoved a sandwich right in his face. No, no. What she did was she said, I don't have one right now. It's electronic. Oh, that's logical.

And the kind of went, oh, you got one of the electronic ones. We're having trouble with that, too. You don't have just a badge, you fucking idiot. Ragsdell refused to exit her van until an officer displayed his taser and warned it would be deployed unless she got out of the dodge. After being handcuffed, Ragsdale continued her charade. The cops and Mrs. Ragsdale then began to talk into her shirt, like she was talking into her radio, telling someone that we were arresting her and to send someone to Rockmart PD, said Officer William Gilstrap. She was tried till the very end. I want to know.

I would need someone to read me down at the stage. I wanted to know, what's the scenario where an FBI agent would need free food from a Chick-fil-A restaurant? It seems kind of a hairbrain to begin with. Wouldn't you be like a health inspector? Listen. Wouldn't that be a smarter thing to pretend you're, because what FBI agent needs free food? I don't understand. You know what you should do?

You should walk in and pretend to be like a reporter snooping around. Yes. But on one of those old school hats with a little piece of paper in the brim. Yeah. Now, she's really gross. She's really, really gross. and she says for several days the people who worked there

told the cops that she'd been doing this for several days like several days she's been walking in and they're like no you can't have food this chick flay restaurant's 20 miles from her house like she's going out of her way to go to this one Chick-fil-A restaurant well you can't go undercover around your house car

is that what the problem is yeah must be it must be so let's move on to Connecticut shall we a half-dressed Connecticut man was spotted humping trees in a stranger's backyard he's behind bars on multiple charges. Record shows that officers were dispatched Thursday

afternoon to the residents when I was reported an unknown mail in a backyard half-dressed humping trees screaming and eating branches. Do you think this guy just follows woodpeckers around? And it's just like, yeah, get that whole, make that whole real tight for me. Yeah.

Oh my God. There's a Groot joke in here somewhere, but I'm too tired to fish it out. When cops arrived, the suspect ran into a neighboring house. So the cops show up. This guy, he's out there fucking trees, and he's like, I got to escape and he runs into a random stranger's house. Like, that was the best option. This guy might not be all with it. Might not be. It's correct. The intruder identified as John Figner 36, subsequently exited the residence

and was placed under arrest. Well, in custody, Figner allegedly spat at the assaulted police resulting in a felony charge being filed against him as well. He is scheduled for a court appearance this week, and he's locked up in lieu on 25,000 bond. Figner has two other pending criminal cases, and he was arrested in August for breach of the peace and was busted in September for a little bit of weed. Didn't this say in the article, too, it wasn't clear which half of him was undressed? That is true. But if he was humping the tree...

If you're humping the tree, you don't take your shirt off to fuck a tree. You take your pants off to fuck a tree. Who doesn't know that? I think that if you would use the manscape, it would probably suck trying to hump a tree pretty bad. Right. We actually discourage people from fucking trees. It's right on the manscape packages.

not for fucking trees this guy got busted from marijuana yes loves nature breach of the peace and resisting arrest so that guy is a lunatic he doesn't think that the tree huggers go far enough he does not he's like i'll give you a green you deal just fucking a tree i'm just trying to plant a seed officer hey carl it wouldn't be thanksgiving if we didn't check in one of our favorite places in the world gary indiana oh gary yeah everybody knows that gary indiana is just a great place diane simmons A 35-year-old Chicago man was taken into custody Tuesday in connection to a murder of a 14-year-old girl named Ticela Trippett. Utility workers found Tribbitt's body tied to a pole in an alley. Did you hear that, Carl? There was a 14-year-old tied to a fucking pole in an alley in Gary, Indiana. And that wasn't even the craziest thing that happened that day. Yeah. Gary Indiana is a shitty play.

That's got to be Gary. That's only Gary. It's got to be Gary. It's either Gary or somewhere in Germany. That should be their new tourism thing. It's got to be Gary. It's got to be Gary. Did you find a murdered teenager flayed in the middle of the square?

Gotta be Gary. Gary Lake County and FBI law enforcement personnel worked on the case. And on Tuesday, they were finally able to arrest Dion Simmons on DNA evidence. The Chicago Sun reports that there is an extradition hearing and that he will be heading to Chicago from Chicago back to Gary to face charges on this murder. You know what else was crazy about this is they said that when they found the girl, she had been. been dead for two days. Yeah. Oh, God, yeah.

How did I fucking miss that part? So I'm wondering what he was doing with the body before he tied it up. Was he even like a weekend at Bernie's, like just a fun romp with her for a couple days? They went to the birthplace of the Jackson's, took some pictures. He's got his foot tied to her foot. So they're like walking together. Shlamil Mille. Shalbazel.

After I've incorporated. Everyone will get your Leverdon and Shirley reference. I'm a cool guy. That's right. Now, Carl, let's head to Indiana, shall we? A high school teacher in Indiana has been fired from his job, arrested in charge after a student at the school gave birth to his child. Whoops!

Yeah. Police say disruptions began at the high school when a student who no longer attends a school gave birth on September 21st. Police did not elaborate of the nature of the disruptions at the school, but a bunch of the students, apparently, I read into this, had some protests because they kind of knew what was happening and nothing was going on. Seymour Police and Seymour County Resource Officers began an investigation. Todd A. Weaver, Shocker, the wrestling coach, was placed on administrative leave by the school pending the outcome of the investigation.

Yeah, the parents were suspicious when the baby was able to perform a perfect DDT. The Hasser maneuver. They served a search warrant. They examined his cell phone, and they took DNA. And when they did the DNA test, shocker, you are the father. Dead to rights. She was under 18. Yeah.

This is a 50-year-old man. Yes. Fucking impressive. my friend. Well, he has a good defense. I have a cup of his attorney. Science is a liar sometimes. That was that for the paternity test? Yes, that was his argument about the paternity test. So he's arrested. He's being held in Jackson County Jail. Now, let me ask you a question. Who do you think is going to be a better father to the child? Mr. Weaver or Ray Carruth was to his son. Well, you know, give rare chance. That's true. He's out of jail trying to make a life for himself.

He doesn't have to pay for the kid. He'll be fine. with it. Oh, this kid wants to eat every day. Oh, fuck it then. Shall we go over to Germany, Carl? Yeah, let's go to Germany. This story is a little wild, and I could not find all the details that I wanted, but a 41-year-old high school teacher whose name has not been released was arrested on Thursday after the discovery earlier this month of a set of bones in a field in North Berlin. The remains turned out to be those of a 44-year-old electrical engineer who had disappeared in early September. A police officer reported that one bone was, quote, completely meatless and just one of the pieces of evidence that led the authorities to suspect the

victim had been cannibalized. Would you like to know the other piece of evidence, Carl? Yes, what's the other piece of evidence? Uh, teeth marks on the bones. That's insane. You must really want to get to all the meat. Yeah. Sniffer dogs led investigators to the suspect's apartment, not far away in the city's Pankow district where police found cutting tools, bone fragments, traces of blood. The suspect has been charged on suspicion of murder with sexual motives according to the ap the bbc reports that he visited internet chat rooms dedicated to cannibalism and uh the suspect had an interest in cannibalism berlin prosecutor's office said he searched online for the topic and dur spiegel reported the two men in this case met on a website

called planet romeo a dating website for gay bisexual and transgender people you know what i hate about this story the reason why this guy was caught is because of his internet history and his search history no the reason this guy was caught is is because the dog fucking march to the cops to his apartment. You're kind of shit on my... All right. Sounds good. All right.

Do your joke. I'm sorry. Do your joke. That's what we call a setup. All right. That's fine. Hey, Carl, how'd they catch you guys? I don't know.

Who knows? Internet history is great. It's fine. Well, his internet history, Carl. I'm not doing it now. Carl. How can I possibly succeed now? I can make this seamless and post?

How can I possibly succeed with that? What are they just not going on? I don't care. Oh, no. Jay and Silent Bob. Oh, you bastard. So, um, his internet history, Carl, Carl, do your joke. Just keep going.

Carl, we need to hear your joke. Carl, we need to hear your joke. Carl, we need to hear your joke. Let's just keep going. No, let's hear your joke. I don't like that we look at people's internet history and then determine that they're guilty of something. If you looked at our internet history, yours and mine, you would think that we were both serial killers.

Or pedophiles, yeah. And pedophiles. Yeah. We'd be in trouble. Yes. And cannibals and everything else. They might think I'm Batman because all I do is look up criminals. Oh, you could be a vigilante.

Yeah, they might think that. You, on the other hand, they're going to look at your. They think I'm a phone. They're just going to go off of your Google search. Yes. All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we want you to stay tuned for the very end of the episode today because we have a very special little segment from our buddy, Kevin, who is going to be

reading our reviews from iTunes. That's right. We got a new review girl. Yeah. I have a review girl. It's Kevin. Good old tits. He's going to be reading them for us.

You're going to love it. He did a kind of a, how do I say this? In his words, a vanilla reading. Okay. So please enjoy. And if you have any ideas for the review section or like to leave a review yourself to be read by Kevin, please do five star only. Feel free to shit on us in the comments.

Isn't that your thing there, Carl? Well, yes, I was just going to say that's my thing. But go ahead. No, I gave you credit. Also, I want to mention, if you want to talk to other people about this show, we do have channel in the discord. If you go to the, who are these podcasts Discord, there is a creepoff channel

in there. And you can see other creeps that want to talk about these creeps that we bring up on this show. There's also a Reddit page, if you like to join us on the Reddit page. That's right. There's a Reddit page as well. I haven't seen it, but I assume it's there. And as always, you can visit the creepoff.com to vote and follow us on Twitter at CreepoffPod. If you want to leave a voicemail 58537180808. As always, the email is open

the creepoff pot at gmail.com. Are you ready to get out of here? Yes. Well, a very, very, very happy turkey day to everybody. Happy, happy turkey day, hunger, page will go away. When you'll hear a pilgrim say it's happy turkey day. Happy, happy turkey day, let's all eat the Indian way as we're stealing Cape Monday on happy turkey day.

Hey, everybody. It's Kevin here with the creep-off review section. That's right. I'm going to be here every week reading reviews that you submit to iTunes and wherever else I can find them. This week we've got four new ones And I'll start right into them here Because why the fuck not, right? The first one's from Geach in Your Face And it's called Consequences Shimonsequences

I thought the wheel of consequences Was to punish the hosts These Nick Bates songs are for the birds Oof All right, well thank you Geach in your face The next one here we've got is from Shetana Letters, VCR slash blah blah blah blah blah It says it's definitely a podcast, that's the title

The main guy is basically a sadistic Dilbert The other dude has a heavy bag on his neck But the Dilbert dude keeps soccer kicking He paints a very, you know, vivid pitcher there I assume sadistic Dilbert is Vinny And a heavy bag on the neck neck is good old Carl. Hot Carl, Carla.

Whatever to help, Finney calls him, I don't know. I haven't been around enough. Anyway, moving along here, we've got a new one here. It says, uh, this show makes D. Hassert wants to sell, and I can't read the rest of it because I fucking cut it off, and I refuse to install iTunes on my Windows machine. Um, I'm just going to read. It's from Larry iTunes, Hotmail email email. That's the actual, that's the actual username.

Here we go. It says this show reminds me of eating a Taco Bell as a grad student. It feels good at the time, but the next day your hangover is only trumped by the bad food. Vinnie and Carl are equivalent to the biblical four horsemen, and Vinny makes up for three of them. Carl's sense of humor makes the briefcase sound like Dave Chappelle. Sick, disgusting, and Jack Dorsey needs to ban this show. Please. All right Sounds like he's a big fan

And our last one ears from Jay Stan B The title just says great I like where this is going It says This is the best true crime podcast I have ever heard True crime is such a hard genre

That many people are not willing to attempt it It's one of those subjects That people are really not that interested in But there are some people that like it I hope this genre catches on and more people produce true crime podcast. I didn't see anywhere where it was supposed to be marked sarcastic, but that's got to be fucking sarcastic, right?

Or that was a bot that wrote that because that seems way too, I don't know, there's something going on there. Anyway, I want to thank everybody for sticking with me here. I'm going to be back eventually to read some more reviews for you for the creep off. If they'll have me back, I don't know. see how people, you know, submit reviews and they're like, fuck that Kevin guy. He sucks. What's this weird music in the background? I don't know what's going to happen. All right? We're just going to, we're going to play by ear here, okay? So I'll see you when I see you. All right.

Thanks.