The Creep Off - Episode 48: Dr. Noose

Episode Date: February 1, 2021

This week Vinnie & Karl nominate their candidates for biggest creep of 2005: The boys announce their plan for new bonus episodes, and we receive a new communication from V-Anon: In the Sc...um Parade we meet a hungry ambulance thief, a man who took his job and shot it and a Doctor whose only crime was wanting to be young again.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Now doing the recording to test for proper modulation. Testing 1-2. Yo, what the fuck is cracking? It's your boy. Eat that pussy foo-4-5. And you're listening to The Creep Off, a show about creeps, by creeps, and for you creeps. I'm going to give the people what they want.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Sensation, horror, shock. Send them out in the streets to tell their friends how wonderful it is to be scared to do. death. It's the cream off. A disgusting, vomit-inducing thing. Ola, Creepos. Welcome to The Creep Off. Everyone's least favorite contest. It's a podcast, a show about creeps, by creeps, for you creeps.
Starting point is 00:01:15 My name is Vinny. This is my co-host hot cuck-cacarla. What is happening in Vinny? How you doing today, buddy? Listen, man, I don't know if I'm living in the past or if I'm living in the future. But whatever's happening today, I'm just glad to be here with you. Vinny, you look excited about today's episode. Yeah. We're doing it a day early. Yeah, it's Sunday.
Starting point is 00:01:34 It's Sunday. Yep. And we decided because we're doing it a day early and we might not have as much prep time that we'd give ourselves an easier category than we have in previous weeks. Well, we did our traditional, we decided on our traditional wild card format. Right. But with a little bit of a twist. And what we did was we let Carl just pick a random year.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yep. What year did you pick for this week's time? 2005. We had to find a creep who was a creep in the year 2005. Why did you pick the year 2005? Tell the people. Well, because I picked out a pretty good creep. And so I figured... It just happened to happen to 2005. I figured, yes, since you gave me the option, I'd be stupid not to do that. Okay. So you played your own advantage this week.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Oh, stop it, Vinnie. Okay. You already had your creep picked out. I didn't try to find the creepiest creep in 2005. I just found a creep that I liked and told you what year it went down so that you could find another creeper that year. Okay. I don't like ways to starting off. Listen, I don't appreciate your little game, but that's all right. You had your creep picked. Let's talk about last week's game before this competition gets too heated, okay?
Starting point is 00:02:38 That's a good idea. All right. How did the voting turn out for us last week? We didn't have Kai here, so that means one of us should probably win. We had an incredibly hard category last week. It was creepiest bowler. Yes. And my creep, Ty Tredenbarger won with 55% of the vote.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Sorry, come on. please man this is a huge deal that's going down right in the power too sweet to be sour i'm funky like a monkey sky's the limit and space is the place who's your daddy who's your daddy are you almost done with the album
Starting point is 00:03:26 Congratulations, Vinny. I'm very happy for you. Thank you, Carl. You know, we were messaging with Kaya because he feels cheated since he won his week. He got a point. I gave the guest category a point on the website. Right. So what I said would be kind of funny is after this week, we put Kaya up again, even though he's not even on the show, and make that an option for people to vote.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Then we can see if he cheated or not. No. I don't like our fans. Our fans are going to fuck us over, Carl. Good point. All right. They're going to fuck us just to fuck us. And you know they will.
Starting point is 00:03:59 All right. Well, congratulations on your well-earned victory. Thank you. And to the fans, I just want to say, it's not that I don't like you and not that I don't love you. It's that I don't trust you. Yeah, I saw you were getting into it on the Discord. You were losing your people's champion moniker.
Starting point is 00:04:17 It seems like. He'll turn is coming, Carl. The heel turn is coming. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Well, today it is the biggest creep of 2005. So Carl, I guess it's time to ring that bell. Yeah, you're up first, Benny. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Carl, this was a, I thought it was going to be very hard. Then it took me all of 20 minutes to decide on a creep. And then it took me nine hours to compile enough information. I'm nervous about this. Because here's the thing, dude. You sometimes grab too much information about a creep. I absolutely did this time and I'll apologize in advance, but I hope that it is riveting. Ladies and gentlemen, my creep this week is a guy who,
Starting point is 00:04:55 case. I thought I knew something about. Turns out, I knew about a third of the information that I have going to bring out today. And holy shit, is it salacious and vile. My creep. I bet you know less about everything you think you know stuff about. That'd be my guess. That's 100% accurate. A hundred percent accurate. All right. My creep terrorized the Midwest for over 30 years. my creep is the BTK strangler himself Dennis Raider ladies and gentlemen Oh well you've just disqualified yourself No we said 2005 you're talking about 30 years
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah well he was busted in 2005 Vote Carl He got caught in 2005 Carl All right let's make your case So listen I'm gonna tell you a couple things about this guy I think you're disqualified but go ahead and make your case No no no no no trust me he did a lot of creepy shit in 2005 The details of this case
Starting point is 00:05:47 are widely out there You could go and find this information anywhere you want to. And it is insane. There is so much of it. But the reason there's so much of it is because the second they got this guy into custody, he fucking rolled over in the first few seconds of having him. Hold on. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:06:05 This is him talking to the police immediately after being brought into custody into the police station. On February the 25th, 2005, they arrested him. I guess you guys go. B.K. Once Raider had confessed, it all spilled out, and he talked for 33 hours over the next two days. 33 hours worth of confession, Carl. Wow, he's got a lot to talk about. He certainly does.
Starting point is 00:06:37 He was a naughty boy going back to his childhood back in Kansas. He terrorized Wichita, basically. That's where he grew up. he got a lot of sick kind of twisted pleasure from his crimes i'm going to say that out in front in fact i'm going to give you just a quick little clip carl i want you to meet my creep i want you to look at the screen here's a little video of him just because i want you to see his face before we get into all of this okay great is this something you are doing for your personal pleasure sexual fantasy sir what he's a he's a bald older gentleman he's a bald he looks a little bit like
Starting point is 00:07:12 you if you were bald that's uncalled for he does though he's got a little bit of Carl. That's uncalled for her. I'm just saying he's got a little bit of Carl. But he's like, this is the creepiest guy who's ever lived. It looks a lot like you, actually. A little bit. I said he's got a little Carl at him. And he's bald and he's pretty grossly. He looks like a very mild-mannered kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:07:29 You'd probably see him on a Saturday wandering around Lowe's bothering people. Sure. Childhood was very weird. He did, he committed a lot of heinous crimes, and it was because he was a sexually twisted kid. Here, listen to a fact about his relationship with his grandma, Carl. Although Raider seemed to fit in with his friends, albeit on the fringes,
Starting point is 00:07:48 dark and alarming feelings and thoughts were developing in his young mind. When he was growing up, one of the things that he mentioned was that he had a very distinct recollection of his grandmother killing chickens and that he became thrilled
Starting point is 00:08:04 with that type of activity. Thrilled is code for aroused. He used to get a boner, a little kid boner, watching his grandma choke chickens. He really, didn't like animals as much as a cat. He would go after like turtles and
Starting point is 00:08:20 this kind of stuff and and as opposed to to maybe killing them the way a lot of us would have if it was a snapping turtle or something like that. They said that he would hang them. That's right.
Starting point is 00:08:35 He would hang animals in the woods. He would catch animals and fucking hang them. Was there at least a trial at first? Or guilty? And here's a fun story about one of his teachers. Now, let's see if you think how the warriors got crossed and this kid's had. One event in particular would prove to be a potentially pivotal moment in shaping Raider's sexual deviancy. When he was about 11 or 12 years old, a teacher humiliated him, a classroom.
Starting point is 00:09:07 He was very angry about it. And he went around to her house later that day in the evening to be. to peek in a window at her and he had the rope with them he tied it around his waist tied it tight and as he watched her through the window
Starting point is 00:09:21 he had an orgasm yeah Carl he was tying a rope around his own waist and came in his own pants peeping in his teacher's window I didn't understand that at all and can I point something out that you're talking about
Starting point is 00:09:36 this guy's getting sexual thrills from killing animals these are things he talked about after he was gone You're getting sexual thrills from this story. You were probably edging for nine hours yesterday. I don't think that's accurate. As you were going through this.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Well, I will say the BTK and I do have one thing in common. We both have an interest in true crime. Yeah. One person just wants to observe it. The other person wants to make it happen. Well, he did want to make it happen. That was his thing. He used to read every detective book he could get his fucking gross hands on.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Because he wanted to read stories about how to evade the police and how people got caught. And he was bright enough to read up on serial killing to understand himself. He then became quite expert on how to avoid apprehension. And he knew what other serial offenders did wrong to get themselves caught. This is the difference between creeps and scum, uh, scum parade. Yes. A hundred percent. The scum parade folks never figure out how to not get caught.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, the scum parade, they're like the street level villains. Yeah, they're stupid. This guy's like the fucking Joker. Raider dropped out of college. He joined the U.S. Air Force in the 60s. After returning to Wichita, he got married in 1971 to a woman named Paula and worked for an outdoor supply company for about a year. Then in 1974, he got a job installing security alarms for ADT. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:10:59 That's just what you want, that guy in your house. There's a theme going on with ADT lately. Dude, all this is going on in his head. All of these things that he wants to do, his fucking fascination with fucking hands. hanging things. He's a sadist. January 15, 1974, Raiders strangled to death four members of the Otero family in their
Starting point is 00:11:19 Wichita home, parents Joseph and Julie, and two of their children, Josephine and Joseph Jr. before leaving with the watch and a radio. Hold on a second. What are the names of these fucking people? The dad's name is Joseph. Joseph Julie, Josephete, and Joseph Jr. Josephine. Yeah, they were one of those
Starting point is 00:11:38 kind of people. And Joseph Jr. I'm not saying they didn't deserve it, Carl. I'm not saying the Otero family didn't deserve to die. I'm just saying that BTK. They probably were matching outfits, too. Well, a big part of his eventual kick was strangulation and souvenir taking. Let me tell you what it looked like when the cops came into the house. Inside the house, detectives would be presented with a scene they would never forget.
Starting point is 00:12:07 We had a mother and a father. and two children that were killed in a ritual type of process. The Atero family had only recently moved into the peaceful suburban area. An intruder had strangled the father Joe and his wife Julie, then turned his attention to their son. There was evidence with Joey, who was nine, that he put the bags and whatnot over Joey's head. to suffocate slowly and that he drew up a chair to sit and watch when he finally realized he had
Starting point is 00:12:46 you know the parents and the boy dead he takes josephine the 11 year old girl down to the basement and hangs her the slaying of the otero family would be just the first in a series of murders that would last decades so he tortured the son and then went and hung the daughter they're talking about how he was watching. There's, there's no evidence to us, Carl. He confessed to all of this Carl. He confessed to all of it in court. Who knows what happened in 74? In fact, would you
Starting point is 00:13:17 like to hear what he did right after that murder? Sure. After endowed himself with the Oteros, Rader hurried home as his unsuspecting wife was soon to be back from work and he wanted to be there to greet her. He did that in the middle of the fucking day, Carl.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And then he went home and was like, hey, honey, how was your day? Yeah, you're wife's going to be on you if you're out all times at night. So that's smart. Second murder, April 4th, 1974. He waited in the apartment of a young woman named Catherine Bright before strangling her and stabbing her when she returned home. Raider also shot her brother Kevin in the face. He spied 21-year-old Kathy Bright, picking up her mail outside her house on Wichita's East 13th Street. Kathy was a Wichita State University student. And she had come. come home during the day with her brother, who was also a student.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And unbeknownst to them, BTK was inside waiting on them. Rader was not expecting Kathy's brother Kevin to be there. I think I had him tie her up first, and then I tied him up or vice versa. The brother was able to get loose. He got up and started yelling and screaming, and B.T.K. came out and shot him in the head I could see the blood and as far as I concerned
Starting point is 00:14:42 I thought he was down and then went and started to strangle Catherine is that her name started fighting because bonds were very good and so back and forth we fought
Starting point is 00:14:56 BTK then took a knife and stabbed Kathy several times killing her when the brother came to and even though he was disoriented and didn't know a lot of what's happening he was able to run out the front door screaming for help this guy escapes he's seen him he's bad at this job right now well this is his second crime he's not good he's not good and this is the only murder where he actually stabbed someone usually he chokes them and jerks off on them and then like
Starting point is 00:15:31 cleans up and leaves but i want you to understand something he had to confess to this in open court Yeah. Dennis Raider, ladies and gentlemen, is fucking awful. He sucks so much. You would want to be around him for about two seconds if you met him in general. He's a cocky dickhead. Okay? Listen to this. Listen to him discuss this murder in court, Carl. Oh, I tell you what I thought. I thought the police were coming at that time. I heard the door open. I thought, no, that's it. And I stepped out there. And I can see him running down the street. So I quickly cleaned up everything that I could and left. Despite planning this murder beforehand, Rader had failed to bring all his bindings with him. If I had brought my stuff and used my stuff, Kevin would probably be dead today. I'm not bragging on that. It's just a matter of fact. No one told me there was going to be boasting. Yeah, dude, if you brought his kit. Now, Carl, if you look at the screen, that's a picture of one of his kits. Okay. That's a lot of fun, right? I'm confused. So there's a mask in there? There's a ball gag.
Starting point is 00:16:36 there's all sorts of ties ties oh yeah so he wasn't prepared to tie this guy out he didn't know the guy was going to be there right he was just going to get the girl but he also shot him in the head and didn't kill him correct not very good not very good that kit's
Starting point is 00:16:52 interesting but I think a gun would usurp all of those things you would think that you would be able to get the job done with a gun he really should have been caught there a few years later other people were being looked at for the Otero murder the first murder that he committed. Yeah. And he lost his shit, Carl. He got very upset that someone else was getting the
Starting point is 00:17:13 attention. It was not long after the murder of Kathy Bright that the press reported that a group of three other men had been implicated in the Otero killings. Raider hears that someone else is getting credit for the murders and he can't stand that. That prompted the first communication from from BTK and the way that came to us was through a letter he tells the police this is not going to end
Starting point is 00:17:42 he's going to continue to do this if you don't catch me more people in this community are going to die and he did this by putting a letter in a public library book and he took responsibility for killing the Oteros the letter ended up
Starting point is 00:17:59 with a local newspaper and the poorly written note gave authority some idea of who they were dealing with. He wrote things like, it's hard to control myself. You'd probably call me psychotic with psychotic perversion hang up. He warned that he would strike again,
Starting point is 00:18:12 noting the code words for me will be bind them, torture them, kill them, B.t.t.t.k. That's where he got the name. The initial stuck, and the murderer came known to be known as variations of the BTK killer moniker or simply BTK.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Now, a few years later, he just took off. Nobody knew what happened. He threatened he was going to keep killing. 1977, his third victim happens, his third murder. And Carl, this one is a dozy. It would be three years before he would strike again. The next one is in 1977, and I'm the chief at this point.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Shirley was a single mom at home and had some children there. The kids were really banging on the door, hollered and screaming. She got sick, threw her up, got her a glass of water, out furthered her a little bit, and then went ahead and tidered up, and then put a bag over her head and strangled her. Because of the length of time since the last killings. Well, that's right. The kids were locked in a bathroom banging on the door and screaming. Do you realize the Patrick Michael level of focus you have to have
Starting point is 00:19:27 to be able to tie up and rape a woman with kids screaming all of them? the background and you heard that cool cucumber those kids holy shit did they get lucky the oldest one opened up a window and the kids got out and they went to try to go get help he came back to go fucking murder all those kids when he was done with the mom i was going to say he doesn't usually leave the kids uh no he was going to fucking kill all those kids all right and they uh they escaped so don't walk kids in a bathroom where there is a window is the moral of the story yeah right yeah if you don't want them being little tattletails. The fourth murder.
Starting point is 00:20:05 We're only at 77. Come out. We've got to speed this off. Oh, shit. Carl, we're not, we're, we're almost there, buddy. No, we're not almost close to almost there. So his fourth murder is a lot of fun. He calls this his perfect murder.
Starting point is 00:20:17 This is his opus, Carl. Okay. Nine months later, in December of 1977, B.T.K. struck again. In what he would later dub, his perfect hit. Nancy was a single lady, a beautiful young lady, who lived alone. I went around the back of the house, cut the phone lines, broke in, and waited for her to come home. She came into her apartment, of course, unaware that he was there, and he gained control of her.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I told her there I was a, had a problem, sexual problems, that I would have to tie her up and have sex with her. What a pickup line. He's a charmer. Yeah, I mean, that was his usual thing. He would say to people, he would disarm the women by saying, hey, I have a sexual problem. I'm going to rape you and tie you up, but that's it. And then he like, oh my. And apparently this woman was like fucking fine, whatever, just don't fucking hurt me.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And would you like to know what a great date, what a perfect hit was for BTK? Sure. She was a little upset. We talked for a while. A little! I handcuffed her, had to lay on the bed, and then I tied her feet, and then I got on top of her, and then I reached over, took the belt, and then strangled her with the belt at that time. And what he would do is he would choke her until she almost died,
Starting point is 00:21:49 and then while he's doing this, he's masturbating into her negligent. Yep All right So you could take her clothes off Right? You certainly could You could or you could just find a negotiated jerk off on Interesting
Starting point is 00:22:07 He's so pleased with himself In fact Rader was so satisfied And proud of what he thought he had achieved That he did something extraordinary In order to gain credit from the press and police He himself the following day reports the murder to the police
Starting point is 00:22:26 He called us on a pay phone and informed us that we would find a homicide and gave us the address. You will find a homicide at B. 43. The officers went down, investigators found it, and that was clear to us, obviously, that BTK had come back, and we had a serial killer. What a proud boy. What an asshole! What a proud boy! What a proud boy he was. He had to call the police to tell him what he did. And then guess what he did? He wrote a letter to the media. On February the 10th, 1978, two months after the murder
Starting point is 00:23:07 of Nancy Fox, local television station KAKE received a macabre letter. It was from BTK, and in it he claimed responsibility for the murders of the Oteros, Shirley Vianne, Nancy Fox, and another unidentified victim. He demanded media attention and enclosed a poem titled O Death to Nancy, along with a drawing of fox lying dead on her bed. A drawing? A drawing
Starting point is 00:23:36 and a poem. He's a guy's an artist, all right. He's a poet. He likes to write poetry. Would you like to hear the poem that he sent? I have it right here to read you. I would love to hear it. I'm a big fan of poems. I will now read to you the poem. As Opie likes to say, what is this taut I can see
Starting point is 00:23:52 cold icy hands taking a hold of me? For death has come you all can see hell has opened its gate to trick me oh death oh death can't you spare me over for another year i'll stuff your jaws till you can't talk i'll bind your legs till you can't walk i'll tie your hands till you can't make a stand and finally i'll close your eyes so you can't see i'll bring sexual death unto you and me it's like dr news that's the name of this episode dr news side love BTK
Starting point is 00:24:29 your grandson Frank so this guy's not talented no that's the worst poetry I've ever heard in my life but he is such an artist I'm going to tell you more in just a second
Starting point is 00:24:39 drawing I bet the drawing sucks he's my stick figure so now he disappears this was the last murder this is the last they hear after Raider had killed seven people he went back to school
Starting point is 00:24:50 in criminal justice and that wasn't about being a good person and being a law-abiding citizen that was about really sharpening his trade. I went to college. No one who takes criminal justice as a good person. No shit.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I think that Kevin Smith has the best line about that. Yeah. He's like, you're studying criminal justice. What do you want to be Batman? What are you going to fucking do with that? Right. Part of the distance between some of the murders had to do with him having a son
Starting point is 00:25:19 and then later having a daughter. He was able to compartmentalize his life. and by being able to compartmentalize his life he could be the good father and he could also kill. So Carl, why don't you strap in because it's now 1986? All right.
Starting point is 00:25:37 First was Vicki Weigley in 1986. With the Weggarley case, that was pretty organized. He broke in to the back of this house. She came home with her baby from shopping. as you're a pistol at her and ask her if she go back to the bedroom with me. He tortured her, tied her up, left her on the bed.
Starting point is 00:26:03 When the husband came home, mid-afternoon, he cut her loose, thinking maybe she was still alive, and obviously she wasn't. It was clear that it was BTK. Yeah. So he's back, baby, with a vengeance. And now he's got a taste for it again, Carl. And this next case I'm about to tell you about
Starting point is 00:26:27 is by far the craziest story I think I will ever tell you and I have just heard of this for the first time and I am ashamed of myself for not knowing any of this. I'm surprised because the guy I picked, you already knew who it was like you know all of this shit. Okay. So he did not look very far
Starting point is 00:26:43 for his next victim Carl. Dennis Rader did not have far to troll for his next victim. She lived just four doors down from him. Now he's shitting where he eats yeah the search began first thing this morning on the eastern edge of sedgwick county for a woman who's been missing seven days 53 year old marine hedge was last seen a week ago by a friend who'd taken her to dinner she was home by 1 a m saturday later that day her door was found ajar
Starting point is 00:27:11 her phone lines cut and marine hedge was missing so all the normal things you would find about a btk murder or btk situation but the body was missing this time. That's very strange. Now, he really planned this crime well, okay? He even had the perfect alibi ready to go for this. The night Marine Hedge was murdered, Rader had his alibi at the ready. He took a son to a Boy Scout camp, and then Dennis Rader gets up at one o'clock in the morning, goes out, kills a woman, and then comes back to the Boy Scout camp as if nothing happened. that's right he was a son scout leader carl and he decided to sneak away he left the other kids alone with the other scoutmasters who i'm guessing were probably fine with uh you know adults prying eyes
Starting point is 00:28:05 disappearing for a while sure if you know what i'm saying yeah but he didn't just go make this woman disappear this woman went to the same church as him and by the way i didn't mention he's now the president of the board for his uh christ lutheran church in wichita this woman is a deacon in the church. She's gone. What did he do with her after he abducted her? Eventually moved her to the trunk of the car. I took the car over to Christ Lutheran Church, and she was already dead, so I took pictures of her in different forms of bondage. She was a deacon at the church, and he posed her, and it was so despicable, because in the photographs, you could see the choir robes in the...
Starting point is 00:28:53 basement area and so when we looked at that it was like these were taken in a church he he wanted to to play with her her dead body i mean that's pretty sick you can say that again honey and carl not these were not just like regular pictures of the dead body just like sitting in the pews like he's got her spread eagle on the fucking pulpit like he's up there's a photographer now too yeah man oh is he a fucking photographer carl oh we're going to see some more of his pictures in a second. The lighting good. Carl, he's got her up on the pulpit. He's just like, and now a reading from the Apostle Paul in his letter to the Corinthians. He's just got her up there having a blast. And he does all of this to indulge his sexual fantasies. But he does
Starting point is 00:29:41 get in around this time. He decides maybe I got to slow down. And he tried to find another way to indulge. And that was creating his own amateur pornography. He was a Boy Scout leader. And so it gave him time, free time, to be away from home. And so on a couple of these occasions, what he did was to leave the campsite where the Boy Scouts were. And then he was very big into autoerotica and to try to hang himself carefully.
Starting point is 00:30:09 He did dig a grave and he put a mask on and he put himself in it, dressed in women's garments, undergarments. And he attached a camera to a cord, a Polaroid and would take photographs of his accomplishments. Yeah, Carl, these are actual photos that he took of himself. Oh, wow. That one is really hard.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I call that one hanging around. And then this one's fun. This is him tied up laying in a grave that he dug. Here he is being a pretty girl. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes, please watch the screen, Carl. You're going to enjoy this next clip.
Starting point is 00:30:49 There were occasions. where he had engaged in autoerotic behavior and he couldn't get himself undone. He thought he would be found by the Boy Scouts and that probably would be humiliating. But it was all part of his being another person. Those are pictures of him hayed from a tree upside down like a fucking idiot because he got caught and he couldn't stop the thing from taking the picture. So let's just real quick talk about his life with his wife because this is some fucked up shit that's going on. He's playing with dead bodies. He's sneaking into houses.
Starting point is 00:31:24 You had to ask him about his wife, you know, how did she not know? He said that one time back in the, I think the 70s or the early 80s, when they had put one of his messages on the front page of the paper that he'd been sitting there at the breakfast table reading the paper, when his wife came up behind and looked over his shoulder and looked down and pointed at it and said, look at that. He misspels that word the same way that you do. And Dennis and said, I thought I was going to have to kill her then. She didn't say anything more, so I just let it go. Yeah. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:31:54 She had no fucking idea how close she is to being fucking dead. This is a dangerous. Couldn't it be any more useless? This is a dangerous fucking man, Carl. This man is insanely dangerous, and he's running really in love if he was like, well, if she says one more thing, I will kill her. Yeah, well, somebody does the laundry. You know, you'd be surprised what you put up with. For the policing standpoint, it was extremely frustrating.
Starting point is 00:32:17 It seemed like when will it end? said it's not like he was doing this every month or two he'd take off a year take off two years take off three years there was nothing else that we could do that we weren't doing except unfortunately wait for the next victim what a strategy i know the cops are just like we're just gonna wait for it and see who maybe fucks up at the next i hope that that guy was fired after saying that that's ridiculous so carl during this time that's really funny he's created all this amateur porn yeah he's kept souvenirs and stuff from all of these murders. Would you like to know where he kept them? Uh, sure. But what he had done is he took souvenirs and trophies from the various crime scenes and collected
Starting point is 00:33:00 them in a tree house he had in his backyard. That's where Tree House of Horror came from. I'm fucking have that label as Tree House of War because this guy would go up there and fucking look at pictures of himself in mass dressed up in lingerie hanging upside down from trees and would fucking just
Starting point is 00:33:16 crank them out in the backyard. Yeah. I was going to say there's probably a lot of nice foliage right underneath that tree. I'm telling you what, if they had DNA evidence, all they need to do is swab that fucking tree house. So he got his degree in criminal justice. And Carl, here's why I am going to say this man is a sadist and the biggest creep this week. There's nothing you're going to be able to do to convince me that he isn't the biggest creep. Check out the job he ended up getting. During this time, Raiders' children were growing up and he changed job.
Starting point is 00:33:46 he became a compliance officer a role that gave him the chance to exercise a position of authority in the community Dennis was a park city compliance officer what he did was he wrote tickets for people not complying with city code
Starting point is 00:34:01 he was known to even take a ruler and measure of grass and if it was too tall he would write people tickets for it oh you look so bad right now what a cock sucker dude he's murdering women murdering children
Starting point is 00:34:14 forget about that shit Compliance officer? What a fucking creep. Your ass is too long. You're in big trouble. You're in big trouble Mr. Compliance officers are the TSA of the 80s. Hell yeah, they are. Fucking terrible people. So all during this time, nothing's really going on.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I mean, nothing at all. I had many, what I call them, projects. There were different people in the town that I followed, watch. It was basically a selection process. His projects would entail the stalking, the determination of how he was going to kill the person, how would be best to surprise them. He had to make sure that he left no trace. He had to
Starting point is 00:34:53 make sure of all of these contingencies were covered. So he spent years just stalking people instead of killing them. He killed, killed, killed, killed, strangled, strangled, strangled. His last murder was in 1991. So what got him busted in 2005, Carl? Let's talk about it. The Wichita Eagle did a little article on the anniversary that this had been 30 years or so since the Otero killing. Well, apparently BTK saw that and decided that he needed more publicity, that he wasn't quite done yet. He saw this article. He goes, oh, I could get more attention? Great. So guess what he does at the end of 2004, beginning of 2005? He starts sending all the police in the city of Wichita on scavenger hunts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:39 After decades, BTK was back and he was ready to play cat and mouse with the press and police. He started to play these little games of sending us on scavenger hunts around the city putting cereal boxes, serial killer boxes filled with dolls that were posed in positions of victims and pieces of jewelry of some of his victims
Starting point is 00:36:05 and he would hide them in the city and then he'd call the media and he'd send them a little note, a little clue where you might find these things. Good, he's having fun with it. He did have fun with it. Whatever you do in life, you've got to find a way to have fun with it. And if you bring others in on the fun as well, what fun it was for these fucking cops?
Starting point is 00:36:23 These fucking fat cops from Wichita, Midwestern fat fucks with prostate problems. Whoa! They're driving all over goddamn town. They're driving it all over goddamn town and they show up the, we got it. We figured out the clue. Like he's the fucking Riddler. They show up, but it's a fucking cereal box. and Dennis Raiders just
Starting point is 00:36:40 I got him I'm going to give you a ticket for parking too close to the curve You're calling police officers Fat fucks Is that what I just heard? I'm guessing the witch talk ops were Wow
Starting point is 00:36:51 Some cahones on this guy Okay ladies and gentlemen Let's bring this creep to an end And tell you how he got caught BTC was to make a final blundering mistake Oh boy did he Not that familiar with computer technology
Starting point is 00:37:04 He handed the police A Golden Opportunity It was the moment they had been waiting for. He sent a note saying, if I send you a disc, will you be able to identify me? Be honest with me. No. And so the officers responded back by newspaper.
Starting point is 00:37:26 It's okay, Rex, which is what he wanted to hear. And that's when he did send the disc. Randy Stone was the detective on the forensic computer crime unit, who was charged with obtaining information from the disc that BTK sent in. Open it up, there was one file, and from that we're able to identify that the software was registered to Christ Lutheran Church, and that the person who last saved the document was logged into his computer under the account name of Dennis.
Starting point is 00:37:59 What a fucking moron. He said the old word file. Not only, Carl. Is he a pervert? he's a murderer he is a child murderer and a rapist I hope you're in recap mode right now
Starting point is 00:38:13 and he is a compliance officer who gave people tickets for the length of their fucking lawn to top it all off was a goddamn boomer ladies and gentlemen this dumpy piece of shit fucking Dennis Raider
Starting point is 00:38:31 my creep and before I go I just want to play you one last tiny thing This is from court. They let the victims and family members of the victims speak to him. They let them say their peace in court before he was sentenced to life in prison. And here is one of the comments from one of the family members. If I had your devil nature, I would delight in the fact that your congregation has turned its back on you, that your friends have deserted you, that your wife has divorced you, that your own children have disowned you. And then I would remind you that you will never have any warm, loving human contact again for the remainder of your twisted existence.
Starting point is 00:39:05 resistance. Come on. I don't think any pleasure and what's happening to you, but let me just say how much pleasure I'm taking. I've enjoyed this shit out of this. So, all right, that is my creep this week. BTK, Dennis Rader.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I'm sorry it took so long, but I found that story to be riveting and I did not know half of it. All right, very good. So I'm going to remind everybody that the theme this week is 2005. Yeah, my guy.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I remind everybody, 2005. It was arrested in 2005. So I picked a man named Kenneth Pinyon, who is an engineer who worked for Boeing and resided in Washington State. I believe he was an equestrian. Just outside of Seattle. Kenneth is famous for a series of incidents in 2005 involving his friend James Michael Tate, a truck driver, and another unidentified man. these men were all filming zoophilic pornography
Starting point is 00:40:06 including Pinyon receiving anal sex from a stalion under the alias Mr. Hans. So apparently in the zoophile community there are all these videos that people pass around and this guy was famous as Mr. Hans.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Oh yeah. The guy who gets fucked by horses. Pinyin had previously lost the ability to experience certain sensations after a motorcycle accident. I can only imagine what happened at this motorcycle accident. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I'm sure he said it was a motorcycle accent, but a horse cock in your rectum might also make it a little difficult to walk. Well, it was a motorcycle accent. He began to seek out increasingly extreme sexual acts, such as insertion of extremely large dildos, fisting, and eventually anal sex with horses. In the early 2000s, he found a group of zoos online. Hey, honey, this is way better than your hand. Yeah, I don't get your hand anymore. Good news. He found a group of zoos online who began meeting at a farm.
Starting point is 00:41:02 in King County, Washington. On the weekends where they filmed one another being anally penetrated by horses and sometimes engaged in sex with each other afterwards, which was also filmed. How? How do you have sex with someone who just got reamed by a fucking horse cock? That's a great question, Benny.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I don't have the answer to that. I did not put nine hours into my research. This was all posted online in all of these videos. The men trained the horse to penetrate them by stripping, applying a horse breeding pheromone and bending over. Who says you can't lead a horse to water, Carl? Kenneth Pinyon was so into big cox that he had a cast created of the penis of his favorite horse strut.
Starting point is 00:41:44 So you know, like, you can get like the porn stars, the gymolems, or something like that. A cast made of it? It wasn't even like a, like, aren't most sex toys like a silicon? Like, are we talking like Bigfoot cast, like a plaster cast? I'm thinking that so you can reproduce multiple dildos from it. Oh, okay. So he was thinking franchise. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Yeah. One night in July, they were trying to fuck a horse on a farm that they frequented, but the horse wasn't into it. So Piny and Tate... So Pinyon Tate... Wouldn't take no for an answer. This third guy, they snuck into a barn on another farm. And first they recorded Tate being anally penetrated by a stallion known as Big Dick, is the name of the horse. Well, I named him Richard.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Tate then filmed Pinyon. being aimily penetrated by the same horse and know why this is actual audio of that encounter with this is Kenneth Pinyon getting rammed by Big Dick, the horse. Here, yeah. Can what?
Starting point is 00:42:51 Come up? Yeah. The video is tapping out. By the way, I want to point out that I watched this video. I found it online. If you Google this guy's name and just search for videos, it's on the first page of Google. For all the shit that Google censors.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Google's good at what they do. They can find the stuff. For all the shit that they're censoring for some reason. You know how hard it wasn't by the research for my? Fauci argument, but for some reason I want to find a guy getting fucked by a horse. I got to be honest with you, I really didn't like listening to that. It sounded a little
Starting point is 00:43:40 bit too much like me eating pizza. Too much? Yeah, a little too much. Too much? So, there's also a bunch of reaction videos where you can see people watching this video for the first time. Yeah, I saw back in the day. I remember Mr. Hans. Mr. Hans. That's
Starting point is 00:43:55 fucking embedded on my goddamn brain. Unfortunately, that horse big dick might have been too much horse for old big hands. On July 2nd, 2005, an unidentified man dropped pinion off at the Numbclaw community hospital. Medical staff
Starting point is 00:44:11 wheeled Pinyon into an examination room before realizing he was dead. So you're saying he got fucked to death by the horse? I'm not saying that. I'll let somebody else say it. This is officially triggered on YouTube. He mysteriously died
Starting point is 00:44:30 after taking too much BHC BHC stands for big horse cock I don't know what this guy's problem is but I did find him funny
Starting point is 00:44:43 I thought it's for Bill and Hillary Clinton on the message boards I read It might This is more about how he passed away So in July 2nd He and his homies
Starting point is 00:44:55 drove in a truck into a farm Unfortunately the horse his cock was too huge for him to handle. Soon after, he suffered from acute peritonitis caused by traumatic perforation of the colon. It's nice to hear Pauly Shore found a new gig. Also, I really feel like that read was really good and should be put to music.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Probably. Like, I can hear like a little beat behind that. It might not be bad. So the police tracked down, because after this guy showed up dead, they found out who his friends were they tracked down this farm which was known in the zoo file chat rooms as the destination for people
Starting point is 00:45:39 wanting to have sex with livestock Here's what really happened. The doctor went, oh, shit, that's Mr. Hans. I've seen this guy. I know him. They seize 100 VHS tapes and DVDs amounting to hundreds of hours of video of men engaging in bestiality.
Starting point is 00:45:56 One of the videotapes even featured Kenneth Pinnion, the one I just played for you right before he died on July second. And this is a news report that came out that next day. Police say it looks like this farm in Enumclaw was a place to have sex with animals. It was brought to their attention after a horse killed a man. Police say it was all caught on videotape. Now this will surprise you.
Starting point is 00:46:20 What these people are doing is not illegal in Washington. It is against the law in 30 other states. And now there's an effort to outlaw it here. police are investigating to see if they might be able to file charges of animal cruelty. That's right. In 2005, it was not illegal to get fucked by a horse and put that video on the internet. You hear that, you prudes? It now is. Hey, Carl.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I can sum up this. It's like these people have never heard of a heavy petting zoo. I can sum this all up with this. Whoa, you got butt slam. Oh, ho, ho. All right, last thing. I have the actual eulogy that was given at kind of things. funeral. Family and friends received quite a shock. When a Washington man named Kenneth
Starting point is 00:47:05 Pinyon died from too much horse cock. So sad to suffer such a horrible fate, he had a hunger no person could sit. Men and women, they just didn't rate. You needed four hooves to be Ken's mate. He found himself some horse hose that was well aroused and swollen, but he had to retreat when the spine equine meat perforated his colon. It's none of our business, I'm sure you agree, but it should fill every one of us with dread, knowing an aerospace engineer is dead from being cornholed by Mr. Ed. There are many eccentricities in this world, but be careful which ones you choose, because death by horse penis will get you on the evening news. George de Kai, everybody. Yeah, that was a video posted by Charles Bukaki on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I want to get proper credit. I have to say Charles Bukaki, better poet than Dennis Rader. Yeah, I know shit. That was actually entertaining. The superior, superior poet. So there you have it. Mr. Hans is my creep because what he did is he got fucked to death by a horse in 2005. And the theme this week was 2005.
Starting point is 00:48:25 think that when he met the horse he was like on front street was just like i have a sexual problem was he like dennis raid or did he just come out say it makes sense yeah i know he took some sex videos but did he take any pictures of himself like in a self-dug grave here we go again dude you pick somebody now we're going to have an announcement that we're going to make today yeah you pick somebody who should not have been in the creep off it's a hall of faith absolutely should have been in the creep off no there's just too much everyone knows about this guy there was way too much of a story to get into. Vote for Vinny! It's all rehashed
Starting point is 00:48:57 bullshit. That's what we should be doing. We're going to start making bonus episodes. Yay. And what we're going to do is we're going to allow the listeners to vote on who should be in the Creep-off Hall of Fame. Yeah. And then we are going to go
Starting point is 00:49:13 ahead and make entire episodes where both Vinny and I are focused on one Hall of Famer. That is correct. So here's what's going to happen, ladies and gentlemen. This would have been a perfect example. of a good place to start for the Hall of Fame but when he decided to blow his wad all over the place
Starting point is 00:49:28 all over the place listen ladies and gentlemen you will not blame me for paying this now that you know that Carl picked a mister in 2005 guy didn't do anything wrong from 1991 to 2005 yes he did yes he did
Starting point is 00:49:40 yes he did lots of wrong things he was bothering the police and making him go look for bags of cereal now listen hold on a second ladies and gentlemen here's how the Hall of Fame episodes are going to work it's very simple you can submit an email to us at the creepball pot at gmail.com or tweet at us who your nomination for the Hall of Fame is.
Starting point is 00:49:58 We will compile a list and we will put out a poll this Thursday. We will record the episode in the next week or so and then we'll release it after that. Sound good, Carl? I love it. Yeah. So in other words, it's a blank slate. We don't know who should be in the Hall of Fame. It's your choice, folks.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Your choices. And if we get the same person multiple times, they'll be put out a poll and then you can vote and then we'll just start, you know, nominating. and submitting, and we're going to build this Hall of Fame. And it's not necessarily people who we've already featured on The Creepov. We really specifically want people we haven't featured yet. That's right. We want some people that are just absolutely vile. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Whoever you really feel like deserves a spot. Now, you're going to be able to, again, send an email to the Creepoff pot at gmail.com or tweet at us at Creepoff pod. Also, do us favor. Follow us on Instagram. Visit thecreepoff.com to vote in this week's poll for who, did the better job presenting their creep this week. And I think that was obviously me.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I hope we didn't put everybody to sleep because this was an important announcement. We probably should have this in the beginning when people were still listening. Holy shit, Betty. I think I made a good case. Okay. Now, Carl. Got any voicemails? We did get some voicemails.
Starting point is 00:51:09 But before we get to the voicemails, let's remind you, the voicemail segment was brought to you by our friends in Syracuse. The creep off voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse. Still your number one source for Rotary fun. Bones. See you in Syracuse. Hey, have we got the check from them yet? I'm worried about their ability to pay. I got the $40. Okay, good. Now, ladies and gentlemen, let's start off with some voicemails. Some folks have some recommendations to the wheel of consequences, and I honestly feel like
Starting point is 00:51:40 the wheel needs a little freshening up. I think we should get rid of Vick's stand-up and Seamus's stand-up. I really kind of like this next one, and I think you will be mortified by it. I have another suggestion for the Wheel of Consequences put on there that the loser has to give a video demonstration of
Starting point is 00:52:00 using the lawnmower 3.0 in all this features and upload it to Pornhub. Don't call me back. I fucking love that one. I think that's hysterical. Oh, no. Yeah. What kind of creep is that guy We're suggesting that.
Starting point is 00:52:19 That's the creepiest suggestion I've ever heard. I say we go for it. Of course you think that. We're going. Landscapes going on the board, baby. All right. Jesus Christ. Now here's some more suggestions.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Have you ever uploaded anything to Pornhub before? No. Is that something that you're familiar with? No, but I think it's really funny. I don't even know how you think of something like that. I win a lot, so I'm not worried about it. Hey, guys. For your wheel of consequences, they stuck.
Starting point is 00:52:45 They're more like a wheel of, minor inconveniences, what you do is if a guest wing, like Kaya, then they get to choose to replace a consequence on the board, or they get to make a specific consequence not skittable. You cannot, you cannot get past it, or better yet, just replace Carl because he sucks. All right, don't call me bad. Hey, guys. Good point.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Jesus Christ. I was agree with almost everything he had. to say. So you like that? If somebody wins, they get to, like, say, if you land on this on the wheel, you can't skip it. Yeah, I like that. You want to give that away? You want to give away that power to someone?
Starting point is 00:53:27 Well, what do they get to do? Just one of the consequences is non-skippable? Yeah, they could say that the consequence of Gary, Indiana, is not skipable now. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. Cool. I like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Well, too bad. Or Kyle won after we invoked that rule, so tough shit. Oh, you mean just one, just one episode? No, for the next time we spin the wheel. But if they just win one episode. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I'm sorry. I'm, I am half asleep after your fucking presentation. I apologize. I'm going to try to get back to the game. How fucking dare you? I'm going to try to get back in the game now. Let's go. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I just want to say, I much more prefer darkles the clown reading reviews than Cobra Commander. Yeah. Because all he does is bitch about me and fucking lock down with some other asshole that I don't even know, quite frankly, uh, yeah. Dorkels did a great job. If you want to leave us a review and you have it
Starting point is 00:54:22 read by Dorkels the clown, go to iTunes. Leave us a review. Five stars, please. We'd appreciate it. Isn't that how you do that shit on WATP, Carl? Yeah, it's called Apple Podcasts. Now iTunes has been gone for over a year, but sure, that's pretty close. Cool. Go to Apple Podcasts. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:38 All right, kids. Here's a good one. Petus. Okay. All right. And da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. All right. Last suggestion for the wheel. Give Patrick Michael your phone number. Put it on the wheel. I don't think that it might go and do anything with our phone number.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Okay. I say I have a better idea. Let's just change Seamus's stand up to fuck or fight Seamus. All right. Oh, shit. Those are our voicemails this week. If you want to call and leave a voicemail call us 585-371-808. Let's do a skump parade. All right. Sounds good. My computer has officially died. So I'll just do this. The scum parade These are my creeps The scum parade These are my peeps
Starting point is 00:55:23 The scum parade Make it vitties day That was the other song But are you sure? Sounds good I don't know it sounds all the same when you sing it Yeah, I know Okay
Starting point is 00:55:35 Let's clean that up in post Let's clean it up and post These are my peeps The Scum parade There's nothing for creeps The Scum parade I'm parolandit show Houston, Texas, ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 00:56:05 Well, paramedics were on a call A Texas man last night jumped into an ambulance and drove the vehicle With its lights flashing to a jack-in-the-box Where he ordered food at the drive-thru-lane cops-say According to Houston police, Ronaldo Leonard 36 was charged Tuesday with felony theft and connection with the ambulance heist.
Starting point is 00:56:22 The stolen vehicle valued in excess of $150,000 was tracked to the jack in the box where Leonard was at the drive-thru ordering food with the emergency lights on when the police caught and they noted that he got four miles away from where he stole the ambulance. I just want to point this out. And again, sometimes we give advice to people
Starting point is 00:56:40 because they're really bad at being criminals. Yeah. If you steal a vehicle, no matter what type of vehicle I don't care if it's a truck, an ambulance, a sports car. You want to draw less attention to yourself. Yeah. You kind of want to like blend in a little bit. So putting on the sirens through the drive-thru, you were going to get fucked with whether you had stolen it or not.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Well, I mean, stupid. I believe the reason why someone would steal an ambulance is because it's filled with prescription jugs. And I'm just going to say, he does have a history. and a lengthy rap sheet that includes separate felony convictions for PCP possession, robbery and cocaine possession. Another suggestion for this gentleman. If she's really hungry and he's jack in the box, I get that. Sure. Why not park the ambulance in the parking lot?
Starting point is 00:57:31 Walk inside to get your food. That way, if the cops show up, you could always deny that that's how you got there. Wouldn't that make a lot of sense? Getting caught in the ambulance while you're ordering food, you're busted. I love your woulda, coulda, coulda, shoulda logic for this guy. Just throw it out there. Just park the ambulance, go inside, get a couple cheeseburgers and a taco, call it a day. Jump back in the ambulance, take a nap on the stretcher, whatever you got to do.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Sleep it off, hook up an IV, whatever you're going to do in the back of the fucking goddamn ambulance. But yeah, he's in a lot of trouble. So that is Rinaldo Leonard, ladies and gentlemen. Now we're going to head on to Sacramento, California. And this guy's a lot of fun. Jonathan Lamele, a former transportation security administration agent, was sentenced to two years of felony probation, 60 years in county jail, or I'm sorry, 60 days in county jail, 60 years is a little harsh for this, and 52 classes to, quote, address sexual compulsion. California Attorney General Xavier Bakara's office announced Friday. Lumelli was arrested in June of 2019 in charge with false imprisonment, and he was accused of unlawfully detaining a woman.
Starting point is 00:58:41 using fraud or deceit to get her to expose herself. Why be a TSA agent if you're not going to do that? If you're not going to see Tits. Right. All right. That's what the T stands for in TSA. And what does the A stand for her? A Titsine agency.
Starting point is 00:58:59 The woman told investigators that Lamelli told her he had to look inside her bra to ensure she wasn't hiding anything, had her hold her pants away from her waist for a check, and then said he would have to take her to a private room for first. the security screenings. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. He didn't even get her into another room, Carl. No. He takes her like he's going to do this other screening.
Starting point is 00:59:22 They get in the elevator and he's just like, we could do it here. The old perform the screening in the elevator gag. It's a classic. When they were alone on the elevator, Lumeli told the woman he could perform the screening there and ordered her to lift her shirt and show her breasts. Then look down her pants. She said, Luminelli then told the woman she was free to go. and add that she had
Starting point is 00:59:43 nice breasts Don't add the compliment That makes it seem Like it's not all that professional You can't editorialize When you're being professional You have to just Those are breasts all right
Starting point is 00:59:55 Can I tell you this news story Fucking sucked Yeah it did Because they have an image on there Of an airplane No pictures of her tits I guess if you're gonna put A generic image on a news story
Starting point is 01:00:05 Show me some nice tits That's what the story's about Not an airplane She wasn't even at the airplane yet No it would have made more sense if they just showed like a like a cleavage it's general cleavage or he could have was just going to say you could have shown like one of those security checkpoints authority salemale pleaded no contest to false imprisonment on Friday and he will be required to pay restitution to the victim I mean what do you give somebody for seeing their tits I don't know like a 20 what's it worth what's restitution for that Vinny I've heard of like the Congress approval rating being way down I've heard of sentiment with police officers and we've had some issues with that last year. Sure.
Starting point is 01:00:45 What is the approval rating of the TSA? Is there a single fucking person who likes this organization? Well, Trump left off so what, 29%. What do you think the TSA is at? The TSA's got to be way below Trump levels of approval. It has to be. I hope that every TSA agent is just so self-hating. They just go home and are upset with themselves.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I hope they go home and stand in a corner and think about what they've done every day. I hope they hang themselves while jerking off, and it doesn't work out. Oh. Too harsh? Mr. Lumelli will be forbidden to work as a security guard in the future. You think? Yeah, I do think.
Starting point is 01:01:26 No shit. I really do think. It's like rain. Okay, so we're going down to St. Louis. This is fun, right? Carl, you ever been fired from Job? No. Really, never.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Never. I don't think I have either. Maybe I have. I know it's definitely laid off once, but I didn't get that upset about it. I'm about to tell you a story about a guy who really did get upset about losing his job. Yeah. A St. Louis, Missouri man is charged with murder after allegedly shooting his boss at a children's treatment home who had just fired him.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Police say Wednesday, officers responded to a report of a shooting at the Mary Grove Children's home on Tuesday around 12.09 p.m. So right in the middle of the day. According to the department, officers found a man in the parking lot with a single gunshot wound to the face. The victim was hospitalized, identified his 60-year-old Brantley Tate, where he was pronounced dead. Police said Christopher Owens was immediately suspected in the shooting, and he was located and
Starting point is 01:02:21 arrested. Owens reportedly confessed to the shooting. Police said Tate and Owens were together at the children's home, and Tate was Owen's immediate supervisor. According to the investigation, Tate had terminated Owen's employment just before he was shot. He literally was like, you're fired. He's like, no, you're dead.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I can't stress this enough, Vinnie. revenge is a dish best served cult you got to put some time in between you getting fired and your boss being murdered or else you will be the prime suspect and who knows
Starting point is 01:02:49 you wait a couple years maybe this guy's gonna piss a bunch of people off and they're gonna think it could have been a dozen of other people who have killed them I feel like there's some really cool opportunities for some witty banter
Starting point is 01:03:00 if this was a movie like the guy could go let's like stay Stallone played the guy who's getting fired and the guy was like you're fired and he's like bam I fired
Starting point is 01:03:11 your employment has been terminated now you will be terminated now you will be terminated like there could be so much fun with this you're right this is way better than the apprentice too I will say that so Owens is being held without bail
Starting point is 01:03:23 and the thing that was interesting was everybody was like hey this guy's dead in the park and anybody have any idea what happened and everyone that worked there was like yeah probably Chris Owens like everybody knew it was this guy that's a problem
Starting point is 01:03:36 yeah so and it was like a children's therapeutic home have you ever heard of such a thing nope sounds depressing it sounds like new age bullshit it's like they go into a room and they just like burn essential oils or some shit it's the therapeutic room is it like a safe space dude honestly i didn't look into it i apologize i'm just wondering what a therapeutic room is i don't know you can't goddamn riff with me carl i was watching the savers game i don't know what it is all right last last creep and we're done with this shit today a judge set a bond for $80,000 for a Broward County doctor in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, arrested on charges related to sexual communications with the minor.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Stuart Bittman was released from jail around 9 p.m. Wednesday, per the judge's ruling, Bittman cannot use the internet contact minors or leave South Florida. He must also surrender his passport. Now, he's a gastroenterologist in Coral Springs. He's 64 years old, and he made his first court appearance Wednesday morning. Basically, he was posing as a 17-year-old boy. and he was talking to a 13-year-old girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:40 He was, like, going into rooms like, How do you, fellow, kids? And then he was getting kind of, you know, kind of creepy sexual with him. He's 64 years old, and he's talking to a 13-year-old girl. He's like, What is your favorite hole? Like, he was not appropriate, and he ended up sending pictures.
Starting point is 01:04:57 He posed naked from the waist down at his desk. And he thought that that would look like a 17-year-olds. Yes. I don't think it would. I don't think it would. He's like, Well, 13-year-old girls probably never seen one before. She doesn't know that they're not all gray and wrinkly.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I still like this doctor better than Dr. Anthony Fauci, but he has a creep. I'll give you that. Yeah. He knew he was communicating with minors. Wait, boys or girls? Didn't he do it to girls? Girls. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a real creep. He's a gastroenter on toiologist. So what do they do? They, like, look at the shit pipe. Is that what they do? They just deal with like fucking the methane of humans. Either that or they're a chef at a gastropub.
Starting point is 01:05:33 I'm not sure. Cool, cool. I didn't do that. What's a gastrolog? I didn't do the research. Well, ladies and gentlemen, don't forget to send in your nominations for the biggest Creep Hall of Fame. We're excited to do this.
Starting point is 01:05:43 We're excited to do some bonus content for you. So get in on that at the bottom floor with us. We're going to have some fun. Don't forget to vote for Vinnie and Dennis Raider this week. Or you could vote for Carl and Mr. Hands at the creepoff.com. Before we go, I do have one more thing I need to show you. Ladies and gentlemen, Vietnam is real. We received another video.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Yes. This is amazing. Martin Luther King, Barack Obama, Jar Jar Binks. Just some of the people Kyle probably hates because he's racist. Don't take it from me.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Here's Intel received from the House of Cards breakout star, Tom Myers. And I know we had to take that episode down because we performed it in Blackflakes, but if you can get the copy of it. I forgot about that part.
Starting point is 01:06:30 It made it so much funnier. It made it so much funnier. That's not all. Further digging, the reason behind Carl's hatefield lynching of a New York University filmmaker who once got named. I don't know why he always trashes me. I don't know what the hell it could be. I mean, is it because I'm half Puerto Rican?
Starting point is 01:06:48 All was revealed in Carl's own show when he played this clip. Voting for Trump now clearly does make you racist. There's just no question. And followed it immediately by saying this. Yeah, I would vote for Trump. Don't vote for Carl, whose initials are literally. Hot cuckcacarla. KKK, paid for by the Vinny Equality Committee.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I missed the Dolphins hat on top of Jabba the Hut last time. That's fucking funny. Well, please remember, ladies and gentlemen. Who's making those videos? Brilliant. They're coming from deep from within, Carl. Vietnam is real. Vietnam is real.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Listen, true believers. Just, yeah, you got to trust. Trust the plan. Yeah, remember, folks, there is a plan. And the plan is to vote for Vinny this week at the creepoff.com. That video should be watched, though. You've got to go on our YouTube channel wherever you're posting that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:07:38 That video will be up on there for you all to enjoy. We'll tweet it as well. So it's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Good gear. She was a little upset. She talked for a while. got on top of her, and then reached the door, took the belt, and then strangled him to pull the bell at that time.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And what he would do is he would choke her until she almost died, and then while he's doing this, he's masturbating into her negligent. This is stupid!

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