The Creep Off - Episode 71: Big Fans

Episode Date: July 12, 2021

This week Karl & Vinnie make their nominations for biggest creep from the land down under: In the Scum Parade we meet a Bus Driver with literary aspirations, terrible Applebee’s customers and a Democratic Mega donor who is about to stand trial. 

Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo! Let's put a smile on that face.

Disgusting Disgusting, vomit-inducing thing. Ola! Creepbos. Welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast. The show about creeps, by creeps. for you creeps my name is viny the people's champion and here is my co-host today he's a piece of garbage it's hot c c c cara everybody hey what's happening in vittie paulino holy

welcome back buddy welcome back did you add a new drop in the beginning was that a joker drop that i heard at the beginning because i think the joker's such a cliche piece of shit i just thought it was funny to throw it in there i hate the joke hold on a second you can't have it both ways yeah i can do whatever i want you just you just literally said yeah i hate everyone over you using the jokers. That's why I put it in to show that everyone overuses it. The whole point of the show is to fucking make fun of true crime. That's the dumbest logic I've ever heard. The whole thing that we're doing is making fun of. Okay. It's an homage.

Okay. I'll fucking get rid of it. Well, look it. If you're going to do that, then I'm just going to read a wiki page for the next 25 minutes. Like, let's just go all in with it then. Oh, well, would be different than usual. Why? Pull clips. Wow, that's good. Well, welcome to. Welcome to the creep off, everybody. Welcome to the creep off, everybody. So glad to be back. My energy is not quite. there but i'm working on a baby i'm here i'll make up for it me oh jesus christ please don't do that you just blew the headphones off of my head sorry buddy sorry i'll i'll be i'll be good you are a cunt

all right so uh everybody this is going to be a good show today a little bit of a tease we're talking about the great down under today we're going to nominate our biggest creep from the uh british work colony that is Australia. Yeah, last week we did New Zealand because our buddy, Steve Wrigley, was here. We didn't use the word Kiwi once, by the way. I thought that was very good of both of us. Yes. I did his voice to him a couple of times.

That's just, he gets really mad when you do that to him. It's like another show just to fuck with him a little bit. But I love Steve Zee. Steve's great. People seem to like him. But we thought we should probably hop over the pond. Do they say that over there? Yeah.

Hop over the pond to Australia. We're going to fly out like a lizard drinking water, mate. That's a thing they. say i know that sure sure prison colony you dolts i'm sorry i said work camp sorry i gave you more credit than you deserved australia some guy named king outback is yelling at me in the youtube live and by the way for all of you watching life thank you for tuning in and those of you who are listening to the podcast also thank you for tuning in and please don't forget to leave us a review five stars preferably and if you have anything mean to say feel free to leave it in the comments

yeah we got to get dorkles back on to do some reviews yeah we need dorkles back so i We need some reviews, people. Sounds good. So what we usually do at the beginning of the show, aside I'm talking about energy levels, is we like to talk about what happened last week, because, as you know, this show is a contest. And every single week, people go to our website, the creepoff.com. That is correct. And they vote for who they thought brought the bigger creep.

Yes. And I'm curious because the cutoff is midnight on Sunday nights. And your buddy was still feeling so shitty that he slept right through that and has no. idea who actually won. Well, it's interesting you say that because fortunately we have people documenting it. I know. I'm happy that they're not happy they documented. In our discord. I can show you what the

score is right now if you like to see it because the score right now says Vinny and Joseph Thompson is winning 38.76%. Interesting because at midnight last night, it was 37.77%, which was the same as Steve and David Bain. Whoa, we had a tie.

There is a tie. Now a few minutes later, somebody went in and broke the tie and gave it to Steve Riggily. Of course they did. So I'll leave it up to you because I'm not winning this one either way. Is this going to be a nothing? Is it going to be one for the guest? What do we want to do here? Well, if it was tied at midnight, I say that the guest gets a point and I get a point. Well, you can't get two points out of one

episode. That's bullshit. Well, somebody's earned points, I guess. That's bullshit. You don't get a point for a tie? Okay, fine. You want my answer? Do you want my answer? You want my answer? You want my answer? You want my answer? Yeah. I win. Nope. Nope. That's my answer. Nope. Nope. Nope. Well, what do you think I was gonna fucking say? I think we should give it to Steve. I think the guest should get- Well, of course you do, because I'm down two points of this fucking round. Of course you think I should give it to Steve. I don't know what to do here. I don't think that we've talked about this before, have we? Give it to Steve. It's give it to Steve. Good job, Steve. The New Zealander brought the best

New Zealander. I don't feel good again. Congratulations. My belly's upset. It would go home. Did you see what Suttery Jodd did on his show last week? He took a shit in the middle of the show. Yeah. Do you want to try to recreate that?

No. I mean, his whole show is shit. So I don't know how there's a fucking difference. I mean, like, honest to God, it's better. He just played something somebody else made, right? He should have just brought the computer into the bathroom with him. Yeah. That would have been a legendary.

Well, this whole situation, it. Well, it sucks. It just fucking sucks. Congratulations. We need a mood today. All right, congrats to Steve. Yeah, so Steve has to go first this week. I guess so.

Well, you were the last person to win, so I guess you still go first. Well, you should go first because you got more votes than I did. I don't know. Last week. Why not? I don't want to take a break. All right. I have my energy up all high.

Now I've got to take a break. Let's enter the creep off then, shall we? Creepiest Australian. Let's do it. Okay. I chose for my creepiest Australian. A couple. A fun couple.

I don't believe that's allowed. Sure it is. It's not the creeps of the week. It's not the creeps off. David and Catherine Bernie are without a doubt the most violent couple in Australia's history. Deadly predators who abduct, rape, torture, and brutally murder women to satisfy their perverse sexual needs. Have you heard of these people? David and Catherine Bernie?

Can't say that I have, Carl. Tell me more. Well, they met when they were very. young, they were children when they first met. They grew up as neighbors. David and Catherine Bernie met when they were neighbors at a young age. By the time they were in their late teens, they were committing crimes together and got caught frequently. They were charged with breaking and entering and theft in 1969, and David was sentenced to nine months in jail. So those kids are out of control. All right, my turn. My creep. He's 18 years old. He's already going to jail for nine months. And he gets out, reconnects.

with Catherine. A year into his sentence, David broke out of prison and reunited with Catherine. He was only free for a month before they were arrested for breaking and entering, theft, receiving stolen goods, unlawfully being on premises, and unlawful operation of a motor vehicle. Police found clothing, wigs, food, and books in their possession. But it was the 100 sticks of gel-ignite with detonators that really worried the authorities. What were they up to? Is this like Australian natural-born killers? Seriously, what were they fucking planning?

Holy shit. I want to see Australian Rodney Dangerfield. Yeah. He's going to play that character. And why don't you go upstairs and get cleaned for me? So because of those crimes, that rap sheet we just listed, David had to serve two and a half years. Catherine got six months.

So Catherine gets out before him. She gets married and has six, seven children, and one of them died young, but she has seven children. And then David gets out and he also gets married. So now they're just living their lives and they got their families and they're doing their thing. Separately. Separately. Okay.

That's probably for the best because it seems like when they were together, there was some problems. Correct. Correct. They're a bad influence on each other, it seems like. See, and those are the things that happen. Sometimes there's people in life that when you get with, you end up just doing terrible things like this podcast. Fast forward to 1985, and David leaves his wife, and Catherine decides she's going to leave her family as well. By 1985, David had left his wife, and Catherine decided to move in with him at a house on Morehouse Street.

She called her husband and told him she would not be coming home to him and their six children. Though they never married, Catherine had her last name legally changed to Bernie. That's fucking weird. That's very weird. That's the annoying part is changing your name. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and the easy way to do it is just go get the fucking marriage license.

Right. I know. That's the odd part. She had six kids, huh? Well, she had seven. One of them was hit by a vehicle when it was a toddler. And no Jackie Marlin for that? No.

Okay. It's really a tragedy. It's really sad that that happened. So it turns out this David guy really likes sex. David was known to be a sex addict with an extremely. high libido. His brother, James, stayed with the Bernies after he was released from prison. He told a reporter that David wanted sex up to six times a day and that he had even tried to have sex with him during a short time when him and Catherine were broken up.

Easy, Tiger. He said that it seemed like their sex life had become boring to them, and David convinced Catherine that she would enjoy watching him penetrate another woman. Listen, honey, you know what... You haven't lived. You know what really spice things up is if I I was fucking other people. You can watch. You can watch. I encourage you to watch. What's the problem?

Hang out with us. We're here all night. Did he try to fuck his brother? Is that what they just said? I think he may have tried to fuck. That's a horny dude, man. Wow. Hey, listen, mom and dad are around our 30s.

That's a horny fucking guy. You've been working out, bro? So this guy, now, typically when couples go through this, and we've seen it with Brent Hatley. Typically, the couple will become swingers. They'll try to convince other people to come into the bedroom and they'll trade. Is he your friend now? He's my buddy, Brian Haley.

He admits to this. That's what they do. They're swingers. And actually, true story, when I was in my 20s, I was dating a very cute Korean girl. And we got hit on by swingers at a club here in Rochester. And it was one of the creepiest things. So I think you meant she got hit on by swingers at a club. Well, what they do, though, is they pretend that they're into the guy to.

that's like their move like the chick was like talking to me and he was talking to her and I'm like all right this is not adding up I don't get hit on by girls I'm trying to decide who I think is more fucking chudley you are fucking uh brent chudley yeah like just gross looking like if I put you in brett next to the swing and you and brett hatley were standing next to each other against the wall and you both had equally attractive girls and you were a couple you had to pick I don't know who I'm taking is all I'm saying. I mean, you both. Well, Brent is a seven according to him.

Yeah, what are you? According to you? I'm an eight. Right. How are his feet? That I don't know. All right. So they don't decide to go that route of swinging and convincing other girls are coming to the bed

with them. Their first victim was 22-year-old Mary Nielsen. Mary worked at a deli next to the spare parts yard where David worked. He told her he could sell her some cheap tires and invited her to his house. That old gag. When she arrived, she was pulled into the house, gagged, and chained to the bed.

She was raped repeatedly by David while Catherine watched. Later that night, the couple drove Mary to Glen Eagle National Park, where David raped her again before strangling her with a nylon rope. He also stabbed her before burying her in a shallow grave. So a 22-year-old girl, Mary Nielsen, comes over to buy some cheap tires for her car. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. They bring her in.

They tire her to the bed. They rape her. And I say they. My question, though, is, are the tires still available? The tires are still available. What size you did? I don't know, yeah. So the interesting thing, though, is that David's the only one who's actually performing the, uh, the rape in this scenario.

However, Catherine doesn't have- She's an accessory to that. have her role. She would stimulate parts of David Burnie's anatomy while he was riping her. Beehole, guessing she's playing with the beehole. She's a fluffer. She was the fluffer on the set. Okay.

Trying to keep him up while he's going through this. So that was the first victim. Let's fast forward to the next two weeks later. Two weeks later, David and Catherine picked up a 15-year-old hitchhiker named Susanna candy. Susanna was on her way home from her part-time job and undoubtedly felt comfortable getting in a car with a couple in their 30s. That couple took her back to their house, chained her to the bed, and raped her for several days. This was the first victim where Catherine got involved in the sex, which greatly turned on David. Oh, good, as long as David's had one time.

Well, listen, as long as David's really enjoyed it. This is really a David thing. This is one of those situations where like once you're gone down this road, you better fucking enjoy it because you're going to get fucking caught. Right. Right. You're going to get sloppy. You better fucking just go all out. At a certain point. All right. Let's run through. Actually, um, I take that back. If you are thinking of doing something like this, get some help. Thank you. So let's run through this, uh, is this still Susanna Candy? Let's see. Because hold on. Can I just address something right now in the fucking YouTube chat. Yeah, yeah.

Everybody is arguing because Heather W. said, Carl isn't ugly. Oh, thank you, Heather W. Yeah, well, thank you. But everybody disagrees. I just want you to know. Well, I hope Heather W. enjoyed that amazing comeback by the Astros yesterday. She was at the game where the Astro scored six runs in the bottom of the ninth to beat the Yankees. How about Italy, baby?

How about Italy? How about my Paizano? Oh, yeah. How about that? Mama Mia. It's interesting. I was watching. that at Old Stone with my buddy Mark and the news was there talking to the owner about how Grubhub

rips off restaurants. Yeah. And because of that, I made B-roll. I'm in the news segment for like half the time. Jesus Christ. I know. And by the way, Grubhub rips off the restaurants, the drivers, and the customers. Dude, they rip off everybody equally. I didn't realize this. The Grubhub takes 34% of the actual ticket price of the food. Okay. 34% of the ticket price of the food. Plus they add a fee. Plus they add fees. Yep. Not to mention the drivers, they fucking don't give them that much money. It fucking sucks for those people. It's not a good app.

Anyway, where was I? Let's talk about how Catherine had to prove her love to David. Once David got tired of her, he wrapped the nylon rope around her neck, but she was able to fight him off. The couple forced her to swallow sleeping pills, and once she was asleep, David handed the rope to Catherine and said, quote, prove your love to me, end quote. She did just that. by strangling the young girl to death. Huh. It's like that song,

I would strangle a teenage girl, and I would dig a shallow grave. I'm not good with lyrics, Vinny. I, as you know, stick to half songs, Carl. Stick to your half songs. All right, the next victim was Nolene,

who ran out of gasoline. Oh, no. Not a good move. Oh, Nolid. After another two weeks, the Bernies came across a woman stranded on the side of the highway. Nolene Patterson had run out of fuel on her way home from work, and the Bernies were happy to offer their assistance.

Talk about retarded. Talk about retarded. Her name was Nolid. Yeah. As in no gasoline. No lean. That was her nickname. It happened to her all the time.

Oh, God. I don't get out of Nolins over about the petrol. What does E-Sand for her? I can't figure it out. No one will tell me. So, apparently, David developed quite a crush on this girl, and Catherine got very upset about that and gave him the old ultimatum. She was going to commit suicide if he didn't kill her. Well.

It's either her or me, she said. Just days later, the Bernie's offered a ride to a woman who was waiting at a bus stop. 21-year-old Denise Brown got into the car and again, the couple tied her up at knife point. Once back at the house on Moorhouse Street, the couple forced to Denise to call her family and let them know that she was okay. They then chained her to the bed and raped her for two days. Fucking Igor. No lead, noly. Noly.

Nice. All right. Nice, Alex. All right. Oh, Jesus. So this one gets a little sloppy. This one gets away from him a little bit here. The couple dragged her to a secluded area where David stabbed her in the neck while raping her.

That didn't kill her, so Catherine got a larger knife, and David used it to stab her in the chest. Is that technically a DP? Thinking the victim was dead, they started to bury her in a shallow grave when she suddenly sat up and gasped for air. David tried hitting her on the head with his shovel, and when that didn't work, he grabbed an axe and hit her twice in the head, splitting her skull wide open. So this isn't how they planned it to go down? Yeah, well, no leave wasn't going down, son. Pretty gruesome, yeah, could you imagine waking up in your shallow grave? than having an axe, split your head open.

She's fucking, like, Nolene Foley. It's a day killer. Yeah. So, after this, Catherine's like, I don't know that I want to keep doing this. This seems kind of bad. You know, that's not how they intended things to go down. Right.

David was still pretty gung-ho about what they were up to. And this next victim is kind of fun because they actually give her a right home. Just a few days after the killing of Brown, the couple picked up 17-year-old Kate Moyer as she was hitchhiking on the highway. They actually drove her to her family home, but when she tried to get out of the car, she realized that there were no interior door handles. They tied the girl up and took her back to their house where they forced her to shower, then had her dance for them.

They're just fucking teasing her. Is that your house right there? Is there where you want to go? That's where you want to go, huh? Too bad. Oh, no. That's true. That's the worst.

so this is kind of interesting they're starting to you know in the very beginning they would just take the victim tie them down rape them when they got tired of it driving to a park and bury them well now they're starting to like bring people over as if they're like friends and they are watching movies together kate would later recall them all watching the movie rocky and how the couple forced her to write goodbye letters to her family then she was raped multiple times when david gave her some sleeping pills to take, she hid them under her tongue and pretended to take them, later spitting them into her hand and hiding them in the mattress. Good girl. So Kate was pretty wise to what was going on and didn't fall for it. She was able to escape the next day because they forgot to tie her down. She ran out. She went to a vacuum store nearby. She was almost naked. She had been getting raped the day before nonstop. And nobody believed her.

they called the cops the cops didn't believe her so she had to tell them look at we were watching rocky they went to their house and found rocky in the vCR which is how they're like okay i guess the girl was telling the truth so who won was it rocky or apollo right well it's a rocky one or two i don't know i'll take it back to you so it was the fifth one with the fucking street fighter watch eventually uh there was a confession which these guys I don't know why they always do that. At first, David claimed that Kate Moyer had willingly gone back to their house and they had consensual sex. Sure.

After hours of getting nowhere, one of the detectives running out of patients said, quote, it's getting dark. Why don't you just show me where the bodies are so we can dig them up, end quote. To the detective's surprise, David said, quote, okay, there are four of them, end quote. Okay. Tinchy ass nice. Wow. Yep. Wow.

So they both got life sentences. However, Catherine has the possibility of parole after 20 years. Was he literally like, yeah, I guess it is getting dark. Right, yeah, he's like, what the fuck? I can't even get, I can't get past that. I'm so tuckered. Let's just get this over with.

All right. Guys, never confess and always ask for an attorney. I don't know. I don't know if that's the law there in Australia. Hey, if you are ever thinking of confessing. Stop it. Right. All right. Here's the last piece on our buddy David here.

For the first four years of their incarceration, the couple wrote over 2,000 letters to each other. Eventually, Catherine decided that it would look better at her parole hearings if she cut ties with David. Smart. This caused the depression and eventual suicide of David Bernie in 2005. He was 54 years old. Weh-ha! Happy ending. Yeah, what a piece of shit.

It is believed there's two other women who were victims. that they didn't confess to who were missing around that time in that area. But that's my creep, my creepiest Australian, David Bernie and his girlfriend, Catherine. All right, Carl. What do you got? Let's step back for a second. I'm going a completely different route than you. Ladies and gentlemen, this is your one and only trigger warning before I start this story.

By the way, I want to point out, I was going to go Mel Gibson. He was not bored. He was not bored of Australia. He was born in New York. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. Syracuse? No.

No, he's born just outside of New York City, upstate a little bit, and moved to Sydney when he was 12. Interesting. I always thought he was just Australian, but okay. Well, now we know. Now we know. My creep today is an absolute creature from hell. His name is Brian Michael Grange. He is from Blacktown, which I guess is a little bit west of Sydney, Carl.

He is basically a tradesman, just does jobs here and there, works on your house. He's like an old tin knocker, like Anthony was. You know what I mean? Sure. Mr. Grange came under notice by U.S. Homeland Security after investigators tracked down. Now, by the way, this story happened like in the last year. This is like a relatively new story. Okay.

Brian came under notice by Homeland Security because they tracked down the payment details of some online purchases that our boy made. You see, this dude Townsendit, okay? He used his own name and credit card details to sign up to a subscription website where he spent $7,156. on child abuse material. Yeah, you know, you got to go on the dark web for that. You got to use Brave is the browser you want to use. You don't want to stop on internet. Stop it.

Oh, sorry. Okay, just stop it. He was arrested in October 2019 following a tip off to the Australian federal police who raided his suburban home. Now, Carl, we know the old cliche with these purves and the amount of stuff that they have. Well, this boy is a real naughty boy to make the main show. Oh, yeah, he's got some hard drives. Court documents show Detective sees seven electronic devices from Granger's homes, some hidden in a storage area under the house,

along with 19 child abuse material DVDs stored in a plastic tub. During a subscription to the site, Grange purchased 59 encrypted data packages, containing child abuse material, paying, like I said, more than $7,000 for it. Grange also sent child pornography video and images to people via email and as attachments. Why are they always sharing, too? what is this compulsion to share well you got to see this video this is the best one yet they're like wrestling fans they can't shut up about it they're big fans they're big fans a computer search uncovered a further 5366 abusive images in almost 370 videos now who's counting

these it's somebody's job it's your job to count exactly how many there are so we can put in the new story now on those DVDs a lot of them were uh Several of the videos were hour-long videos of pre-bubested children in pageant settings. Gross. Yeah. Yeah. Does that unsettle you a little bit? That's who watches those.

Just like, you know, that's who those are for. Wasn't that a TV show? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was probably just his copies of that show. Yeah. Just fucking cranking it. Oh, Bloy, look at this.

Fucking honey, boo-boo, you go. Fucking asshole. Police and covered garage purchase more than 31,500 images, 325 videos from another amounting to 27 hours worth of material. And they seized another laptop that revealed 11,500 images and another 550 videos. Now, these videos, and hundreds of them, were classified as the very worst kind of child pornography, including videos of children, restrained, forced into bestiality, and subject to highly degrading sexual acts.

Jesus, fuck. Yeah. He's like, sit on that pie, kid. Sit on that pie. No, that didn't happen. With police stating only 5% of the total material on the computer was able to be reviewed. That was 5%. Wow.

Yeah. So here's the thing. Now, what's the thing, Benny? These guys, we know that they're the porn, child porn hoarders, they're the dragons. But as the police were reviewing these videos, there were some that needed Mr. Grange to start explaining himself for because some of these videos featured his voice, his face, his hands, his house, and his car. They were all shown in some of these videos that were found on the hard drive. Well, let's talk about what some of these videos were. You always want to fuck a child in front of your license plate.

That's always a good idea. Make sure to drop your passport on the floor on the scene, too. That's always a good one. The first victim was a toddler, aged one or two, when she was abused by Grange as he accompanied her in a public toilet. He filmed it on his phone. A second girl was repeatedly molested by Grange over a number of years when she was aged between infancy. and five years old. The fuck.

Here's a quote, you're getting good at it. He told the girls he filmed her while inciting her to expose her genitalia to the camera. He made numerous videos depicting himself molesting this girl, as well as filming her genitalia

from carefully crafted camera angles. That's at the court documents. Can I just break this up real quick and just try to like bring some levity? No. Vinny, Vinny, Vinny. All right, so the girls getting good at it, keep going. Yeah, yeah, and he was

trying, like, I mean, this guy was trying to be a fucking artist with it. It's in the fucking court documents. Carefully crafted camera angles. This guy's like, I'm just going to put this boomerang in here for scale. He's the Scorsese of CP. He's the Scorsesee of CP. Now, here's the most egregious, Carl. This is what sold me on doing this story today.

Sorry, kids. One of his victims was an eight-week-old baby. Who, he opportunistically abused on multiple occasions while the infant's mother and grange's wife smoked cigarettes outside those interactions involved him rubbing his cock on a newborn baby and coming

on the child's face well he filmed it this motherfucker bucockied a baby they usually leave detail like this out of these types of stories right yeah well it seems um this seems um This seems like information I don't need to know. This is horrific. I don't want to know it either.

I don't want to know it either. Just imagine this. He's at home. His wife goes out to smoke a cigarette with the neighbor and the baby is in his house. And he's like, jacking it, jacking it, jacking it, jacking. Sorry. He's got to figure out like, okay, she's going out for a side for one cigarette. I got to get this out.

Okay. Okay, here we go. Shh, shh, shh, baby, baby. okay i'm done like that was what he did he went and filmed it he filmed i'm glad you're recreating these scenes too he filmed himself coming on a baby's face ridiculous thank god there's fucking like wet wipes everywhere right yeah so he was talking to his type of hair after he's arrested he's talking to a court ordered psychiatrist yeah right yeah and they said so uh what got you to do this one here's the quote i had a viability

Agra that morning. Okay. I was pretty fucked up. It was a pretty fucked up time. I got no excuse for it. I used Blue Chew because I had the promo code OPE. That's OPEE. Same active ingredients as my agra, mate.

I used to love that O-N-A show. Go on, listen. I wouldn't have been able to rape that child without OPE, O-P-I-E. When he got to court, the judge noted that Grange had expressed some remorse to a psychiatrist. In the letter, but found it was very limited. Some remorse. Well, here's what some remorse sounds like with your pito. He said he did not believe the victims would remember his offending and subsequently would not be affected by his actions.

Oh, that's why he chose eight weeks. All right. Yeah, he's like, yeah, a kid won't remember. There you go. Come on and sticking on a wall. It won't remember. Fucking baby. Garage pleaded guilty to a string of child sex offenses under both state law concerning his abuse of the girls and the Commonwealth law because of his material.

judge noted that his cooperation with the police and early plea now here's the thing i learned because he cooperated and pled guilty he was entitled to 25% off of his sentence interesting that's a terrible rule um well if the sentence is like five life sentences that it's fine well would you like to guess how many years this guy got uh yes how many years because australia i've noticed they're pretty lenient as far as their sentences go compared to what we have in the u.s 30 years in prison okay and And to make this extra creepy, his wife comes and visits him every week. Oh, wow. Okay. She's still into him, huh? Yeah. Pretty disgusting. So that's my creep this week.

He came on a baby. Brian Michael Grudge, vote for Vinny. Thank you. Okay. All right. Cool. Yeah, your guy who is a murder rapist. Mine really fucking gross.

I think you're making this shit off because they don't use your report these things. You know where I got this story from? I gore sent this to me for the scum parade. And I was like, fuck, no. That's a real creep. Okay, so you're letting the listeners do all the work for you. No, no, no, no. This is what Patrick Michael warned me about people like you.

Yeah, I'm the problem. You don't even do any of the work. You just let the listeners do your show for you. I see what's going on. All right. Listen, Carl, you're ready to do some voicemails. Am I? The creep-off voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse.

Congrats to our very own Nathan Tyler on earning a trip to Boston to practice ballet. Take me with you. Dear God, I need out of this hellhole. see you in Syracuse I love Brian McBride and by the way folks before we hit the voicemails I'm just gonna let you know

that this week you can expect it the return of Welcome to Creeps and Roses with Vinnie and Brian McBride We're talking about the bachelor because Vinnie needs to My creepoff consequence is coming up this week

You will hear the first episode of five Beautiful Of the season two of Creeps and Roses Can we get PJ Filium To at least come on the final episode or something? I hope so. He's not into doing anything with anybody. That's so weird. I got blessed him. Why do you just disappear like that? I don't know. I think I heard his feelings. You think you're the reason why PJ is no longer doing anything? Yeah, I'm a narcissist like that.

Because I need those songs. It's been a long time and I've got a great PJ song at WTP. So if you could apologize to him, that will not. I will never apologize. That's not something I believe in. I learned that from you. Here's a voicemail. So I'm behind on the creep off and I'm trying to catch up. But man, Carl, your analogy about how the creep off is like the hard drugs to WATP being the soft drugs is very accurate because, man, it's like doing Coke. I got to take a couple weeks off every time. Like, it's fucking brutal, man. I just listened to the episode where you guys talked about the Russian mother who dangled

the kid off the balcony. Jesus. How do you guys do this every week? Who hurt you? Come on, dude. Don't you ever heard of the healing power of laughter? That's all. We just laugh it off.

It's okay. More Joker drops, huh? You're really getting all the Joker drops going to do with this. So, uh, another one talking about last week's episode. You call that a rapist? Vitty-witty. People champ. That was one of the better episodes.

It was worth a wait. I figure I should probably have. give some compliments here so you guys don't kill yourself before I'm a forward to the show. Good man. Thank you.

Pretty good on his feet, but holy shit. It really makes you think about how fucked up to show it would you hear a comedian and try to not be disgusted it every month. But anyway, good job, guys.

Thank you. He beat the cutoff, but he's like watching Steve react is priceless. And Steve is such a good guy. Steve's got like a little five-year-old boy. And like if he was here today, he would be sitting there going, Oh my God, I got to leave. There were a few times where I could tell he was trying to like go to his happy place. Yeah.

I was looking over at him. He's just like looking down like a pasture full of sheep. Right. I have a voicemail here, Benny. Yeah, go ahead. I don't know if it makes a lot of sense, but we'll play it. Sure. Hey, yo, this is for The Creepoff.

I've listened back to some older shows, and Vinny thought I called in as a high-on, druggy, idiot piece of shit. Which, yes, I am an idiot piece of shit, but I am not a high-on and I don't do drugs. I was an alcoholic, so that does explain some of that. But also, too, Carl Cussaroo's to the max. Fuck Vinny, Winnie. He's more like Vinny Spinny. Yeah. And I know I'm like a bird flying into a window, or something.

screen door. I'm hoping I make the cutoff for this week, but fuck Vinny. Carl Couss Roozal all the way. I didn't understand the part where he was like trying to explain something that happened and how he doesn't do drugs and he used to drink. Didn't care about that. But as soon as he said, fuck me, I'm like, all right, I'll play this.

Oh, yeah, we'll play this. I'll play this one of our show. By the way, Vianan True Believers, Carl's Couserous, creepomaniacs, and all of you, Mary Marchers. Keep an eye out this week. We're doing a bonus episode, Thursday. That's right. Bonus Creepoff Hall of Fame episode.

Pampers. Choo is going in, son. Pampertchew is finally being inducted. If you haven't checked out the Patreon, please check that. Here's one. Carl called in again with another one of his fucking ads, trying to get his WATP plugs in. Hey, Vin, this is Carl. Last week's creep off with loads of fun. But if you want more loads, go to semenx.com slash WATP for more viscous and voluminous loads. These loads are hot quality semen, spread white on your wife or your laptop screen.

That's semenx.com slash wATP. I got to stop calling into the voicemail. line. I'm just embarrassing myself. You really are a problem. So I would like before we go into the scum parade today, I would like to read to you an email that we got. Oh, did we get an ask Carl? No, we didn't this week, unfortunately, but this is an email that we received. And you're going to like this because PJ may be gone, but we may have a replacement. Oh, good. This came from our friend Sarah D. She said, Vinny Winnie and Hot Carla, love you, love the show. So happy to have found WATP and the creep off. Great pod. I thought the scum parade could use a snappy ditty diddy to

intro hope you like it oh mind you i'm no patty ccups level artist but i think it's fun sorry if the levels blow gagia sarah now she sent us a uh new scum parade theme thank you for that and i want you to know that i spent a little bit of time just trying to fix the levels a little bit because you really did fuck them up and i still love you are you ready to hear it car i'm excited about this by the way this is the one thing we don't need on the show i have three different jingles for the scum parade but thank you sarah this is great i like you get better than anything you've ever made. Fair enough. I love and Vinny are back

Ha-cha-cha-cha. Well done. How do you like that? Jen from the what department? Who from the jingles? What? I believe that's Sarah D from the creep department. Way to go, Sarah.

Sarah, I think we're going to get Sarah coming to Chicago. I'll tell Jen to stay home. Yeah, right? She knows pretty good, right? That's great. I love it. Yeah, I'm going to send it to you. We're going to add that to the rotation.

Thank you so much for said to that, Sarah. It was a lot of fun. Now, I am totally feeling energized and ready to do a scum parade. Okay. All right. Are you right? That was you. That was me making noise over here?

Yeah, that was you. My bad. A Florida bus driver was arrested Thursday. Shocking, right? I mean, never would have saw that coming. What he did was he allegedly gave a student a book he wrote about sex abuse. The gentleman by the name of Jimmy Rogers Tate has been charged with distributing obscene material to a minor, a felony punishable by up to five years in prison.

The 54-year-old from Palm Bay was released on a $5,000 bond. The sheriff's office said Tate gave a ninth-grade girl a book about sexual acts between an adult man and a toddler. According to the arrest affidavit, the material was allegedly given to the suit at June 2nd. The sheriff's officer said the book titled Tiny Daddy's Little Girl was self-published by Tate on Amazon. Okay. New consequence. You have to buy this book. No, you can't.

They took it down. And then read it the children at the local library. Okay. It's time for Carl's story time. By the way, at least he didn't give her easy for you to say. This is bad, but it could have been worse. Oh, my God. That poor kid.

This guy would have been dragged off the butt. The student's mother brought her concerned about Tate's alleged action to the administration at Vira High School. Two days after the driver handed out the book, the school's assistant principal, Heather Smith, review of the material and proceeded to call the sheriff's office. Yeah. With the mother met with authority, she said, Tate asked her daughter how she liked the book. The ninth grader read part of the book, and the mother told the sheriff's office, she felt very uncomfortable and unsafe.

Tate laughed when the student told him the book was, quote, very detailed. That's what he was going for. Yeah, that's what he was going for. In the first chapter of the book, a rape between two characters is described. Later in the text, a rape is described between an adult man and a three-year-old female. And he wrote this book. Yes. And gave it to a freshman in high school.

Yes. And what did you think was going to happen with that, Vinny? Well, what did you think was going to, what would be the reaction he would get? She'd be like, oh, my gosh, you're an amazing author. He thought he was J.K. Rowley. Yeah, this is young adult fiction at its finest. Yeah, there's going to be some CGI involved, but you can see how this could be a movie, obviously. He told authorities that he thought the book was appropriate for people aged 13 and over.

He chose a student because she, quote, liked to read novels and believe she was a senior in high school, the affidavit said. Tate told authorities he'd already received a letter from the school about the complaint against him. All right. And he said he knew the complaint was over the book and he'd probably be fired as a result. The fact that he says she liked to read novels, I don't want my bus driver knowing that much about any student. If you even know that, you should be fired. I don't want you to know anything about these people.

You just drive that fucking bus buddy. This has got to be what it's like to be fucking like Jimmy Fallon with a limo driver who's like, hey, listen, man, I wrote a screenplay. Right. You check it out. Right. This poor freshman girl, she's like, oh, my gosh. You've got to read another book from this guy.

Granted, this one's better than his first one, but it's still not good. Yeah, way more rape in the first one. Right. Let's move on to New York City, shall we? Yes. An on-duty uniform New York City parks worker, Jeremy Soto, got himself into a little trouble. A witness and mom of two said the sort of events unfolded on a peaceful Saturday morning as about 15 people who are enjoying an outdoor Zumba class, if that's possible.

Some people do enjoy Zumba, Betty. Not you, but other people. They're at the parks and Lotus Playground. As the instructors led the class from a park building patio, Soda walked out of the building in a jacket, which said staff, and started moving to the beat. Seems official. He was sort of dancing, gesturing to the music.

The witness said everyone sort of laughed. The teachers were good-natured about it. They ushered Soto away gently. They were like, please leave. But then he came back. The woman says, I noticed he was focusing on one of the teachers who was a female. And he was staring at her in a way that made me uncomfortable, she said. He was sort of walking around.

her in a menacing way. Soto was shooed away again, but didn't go far. He wandered over to a nearby set of swings for babies and toddlers. That's where he took his penis out of his pants, the witness claimed. I saw him take it out and start swinging in her out and gesturing lewdly. Crude gestures, sexual gestures towards a mother and her toddler on the swings. I thought that was kind of interesting. So how would you pull your dick out and not have sexual gestures? Is there anyone who's jerking off in front of people sheepishly? I mean, you could be peeing? Yeah, he was.

Oh, yeah, we'll get there. He was calling out to the mom to try to get her attention. The witness said, it was awful. I was shocked. She said, an older woman next to me was very upset. The Zoom of class participants reached for their phones to call the police. As Soto went to exit. He called police, yeah, right, to video it. They reached with their phones to video X. 100%. All you need, one person went, all right, you

film it, I'll call the cops. Just send me the video later. I had a show by your fucking husband. It was awful. She was shocked. So the phone video shows him standing on Broadway. Here's a picture of it for those of you are watching live. I watched this video. Here's the picture of him just standing in the street pissing.

Yeah, yeah, wearing his official New York City parks. Yeah. The phone video shows him standing on Broadway, pissing on the street, before walking stiff leg to the strike medium, laying down, and with his left hand, playing with his exposed penis. He's laying in the middle of the road. Cars are driving by

and he's just jerking. They're not slowing down either. It's New York City. Spanking it, jacking it, spanking it, smack. Yeah, that's not even the craziest thing those people saw that day. Right. Well, witnesses said his fellow park workers arrived and tried to coax him to get up shortly before the police showed up. When the police showed up, Soto told the cops, well, you know, I'm high on PCP. Oh, wow. Okay. After he was arrested, he was busted two days later for allegedly hugging a woman from behind on a Brock subway platform,

grabbing her breasts and kissing her neck record show. Oh, so this guy's a problem? Yeah, he's a bit of a problem. And he's got quite the rap sheet. how we got this job working in the public parks department is a wonder well hold on a second if they didn't hire anyone who's gotten high and played with their dick in public before we wouldn't have any employees in the parks well this podcast wouldn't exist finding people willing to work right now is difficult bitty in their defense a lot of people don't feel like working anymore that's true

carl yes sir do you remember how we talked a couple weeks ago about how it really sucks being a server in a restaurant yes this is one of those jobs where i always have sympathy for those people god bless you bring people food you got no bigger fan than me okay this is true this is true video it's a national holiday i would for restaurants yeah but restaurants aren't closed we don't that would be a problem that would be a problem right because they want the day off right right right then who's going to get the food well this is a fucking nightmare of a story four women were sentenced tuesday after they pled guilty to beating up an applebee's waitress who served them stabbing her with the steak knife and then stealing her tip money this happened on july 10th and an

Applebee's restaurant. It started when the four women were having dinner and one of the diners was sitting with her leg out in the aisle. She was man spreading. Yeah. The waitress had brushed up against her leg as she walked by. Apparently, this woman got upset and had an initial conversation with it said, don't touch me. The waitress apologized to the woman and claimed it was an accident. Right. After the woman complained about not receiving her food, the waitress went to the kitchen to retrieve it. According to a police report, she came back a second time to serve them the food or the drinks and accidentally brushed up the woman against the woman again. So that infuriated the suspect. The server tried to walk away, but the situation turned violent. All four of them got up at the table and began to assault the waitress. For brushing up against the light. Now, I get, if someone steps on your new Air Jordans, I get killing that person. Yes. That I understand.

But brushing up against your leg, cool your jets. And also, I've been angry. One of my Rick Flair, Dame Sevens, I'd be pissed. I've been angry in Applebee's. I'm only angry in Applebee's. It's not a good place. It's the food's not good. It's place sucks.

I understand being angry. How many years has been since you've been in an Applebee's? Many years. Too, same. Fuck that place. Holy shit. And if you work there, I really do feel bad for you because it's not a good place. I've never been in a good mood inside an apple piece.

The food is garbage. The food is garbage. They serve water down fucking beers and drink. Fuck them. Blah. See, Vinny gets upset about bad food. When you said watered down beers, I was like, wait. Let's go burn this place down.

America's neighborhood bar my ass Fuck that The woman beat and punched the server And one stabbed her in the farm with the knife Jesus Fellow diners stepped in to break up the fight And the woman ran out of the restaurant With the stolen tips

Why do they even have steak knives and Applebee's They don't serve anything that's actually steak there So you want to laugh? Yeah Okay, we'll play a little game Okay They left their bill unpaid Would you like to know how much their bill was

For four people in an Applebee's I'm gonna guess it was $38 $18 and $17. Nah, $62 bucks. $62 bucks. Fucking ridiculous. All four were charged with criminal trespass and battery. The police said,

Ketira Boyd and Lakeisha Boyd faced additional counts of aggravated assault, but were handed lesser sentences under Georgia's first offender act. And addition to jail time and probation, they were ordered to stay away from Applebee's and the victim. Take an anger management class, do 100 hours of community service, and pay restitution for the victim's medical expenses and damage to the restaurant. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at anger management class.

Now, Laquisha, do you think maybe you overreacted at the album? Don't tell me how to live my life. I'll fucking kill you. Did you? You're going to bump into me, too? These people are out of control. Yeah, so. I made up a name just now.

I don't think that was correct. It was, uh, it was La Keisha Boyd and Katera Boyd. Okay. Uh, either way, that's fucking nuts. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. What a fucking world we live in. Yeah. All right, here we go.

This is a fun story. all of you people of Carl's ilk will enjoy this. Democratic mega donor, Ed Buck. Good old Ed Buck. You know about Ed Buck? What do you know about Ed Buck? Well, I knew this whole story. This came out a couple of years ago.

Yeah, well, he's going to trial. Yeah. He's going to trial. He's about to stand trial in the drugging deaths of two men. He lured a stream of young participants to his West Hollywood apartment where they were injected with methamphetamine and played sexual fetish games. Oh boy. Federal prosecutor said one victim went to Buck's apartment to model underwear and

ingested a drink that made him feel paralyzed. And when he started to come to, he saw Buck injecting him with something. Yeah. So he would paralyze people just so he could put more drugs into them. That's how fucked up and depraved this guy is. Correct. According to U.S. Attorney's Office, pre-trial memo filed on Friday, the victim met Buck through an online advertisement to, quote, host a party, which was understood to mean drug

use and sex. Wait a second. You're telling me, host a party means drugs and sex. Vinny, I got to, can we wrap this up? I got to get on Krugs. Yeah, I'm never going to one of your parties. Buc 66 has been charged with six counts of methamphetamine distribution, including two cases of death, two counts of interstate prostitution, one count of operating a drug den. Jesus.

Wait a second. Operating a drug den is a legal term? Apparently in California. Two counts of crack housing and another count of thuggery. The trial actually starts tomorrow, July 13th, and is expected the last eight days. The charge of distribution of methamphetamine resulting in the death carries a 20-year mandatory minimum. him. So before Buck's arrest, he was hanging out with

people like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama. Oh, he was one of the biggest donors. He gave $500,000 to Hillary and Barack. He gave a ton of money to Gavin Newsom, Jerry McInerney, and Adam Schiff. But apparently in private, he was a bit of a fucking lunatic. Buck solicited mostly black men through a gay male dating site and even paid the airfare for two out-of-state participants.

Once they stepped into his apartment, as a, quote, party and play scenario unfolded, which the men were expected to consume. large amounts of drugs and perform sex acts, the memo said. Besides meth, the victims were also given the sedative clonazepam and the date rape knockout drug, GHB. That's a party right there. That's not a party.

It's fucking everybody's asleep. How is that a party? We get the meth going after that. In many cases, Buck would inject his victims, quote, defendant exerted power and control over his victims, typically targeting vulnerable individuals who were destitute homeless and her struggle with drug addiction and exploited the relative wealth and power and balance. offering them money to use the drugs and let Buck inject them, the memo said.

Victims were offered money to do this, and those who refused to use the required amount of drugs were threatened with no pay. Yeah, yeah, Bill Clinton. I'm not going to give you any more money unless you take these drugs. If you don't take this meth, you're not getting paid, mister. Gemmlemore died in 2017 after flying to visit Buck from Texas. Their relationship went back to 2016

when Moore called his mother crying and screaming and said that a rich, powerful man named Ed Buck, held him against his will and shot him up with drugs and that his arms were red and swollen the memo said yeah what a great relationship it's nice to know that he went back drugs are fucked up man that's true but i got to say though if you are going to drug and rape people it's always good to make sure that they cross state lines always a good idea you fucking numb nuts you can't find enough drug addicts in california to fuck you're flying in people from texas tiffany dean was the second uh person they found dead he was founded his apartment on january

7, 2019. He was already dead when paramedics arrived and reported seeing him wearing two pairs of void underwear and a ring secured at the base of his genitals. Yeah, Yahoo News. That's called a cock ring. Look it up. A ring secured at the base of his genital. Buck is represented by Christopher Darden.

All right. Christopher Darden's still getting the high profile cases. Yeah, he does a real great work. He does. Yeah. He certainly does. Darden could not be reached for any comment on that. So, ladies and gentlemen, that is our scum parade for this week. That was a fun gum parade this week. That was a lot of fucked up shit. Yeah. I mean, after your story, which was a problem, I doubt anyone's even listening to this, but I enjoyed it. I hope you guys are going to vote

for me this week. I really don't encourage that. I don't want more of these. Really need you. I don't need more of these types of stories. People's champ need you, baby. So I guess that's the end of our show. We're going to be back with a bonus episode. If you haven't signed up for the Patreon yet, please do. We really appreciate it. We will be back next Monday for those of you who are not patrons. Also, we'll be live in Lombard, Illinois. Go to wATP live.com. Vinnie and I will be there. We might even

do a little creep-offing. Yeah, we talked about maybe having some merch there, too. Maybe having some merch. Had a little merch. Vicki's trying to squeeze every penny he could get out of this. So we'll buy it some merch and a little creep-off action. So check that out for tickets. You know how happier boy Vinnie has to be going to this, right?

I know, because you got AEW all week in Chicago. I do. Like the following week is the best week to be a wrestling fan. That's amazing. It's fucking three shows. And I know that you're not a comedy fan, but Tim Dillon will also be in Chicago. Oh, I'll go see. I'm not, yeah, I'm not a comedy fan at all. I know. Are we going to go see Tim Dillon? It's totally sold out, but I'm working on it. Okay. He has like seven shows that are all sold out. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, it's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Gagia. Riving children

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