The Creep Off - Episode 78: Greetings from Gary Indiana

Episode Date: September 9, 2021

In the triumphant return to the studio plans changed and we had no choice but to have a wildcard round: In the Scum Parade we meet a man who hated his mother in law, we learn why sharing CP o...n social media is not a great idea and that cages for people are so 2019 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Cuckoo, cuckoo! Let's rumble!
Starting point is 00:00:30 Disgusting Disholing Vomonducing thing Ola Creepos! Welcome to another edition of the Creep-off, the greatest true crime podcast to ever exist to show about creeps, buy creeps, four creeps, Bay, Bay! I'm back from Chicago, and now I get to look at Carla. Hey, everyone.
Starting point is 00:01:09 What is happening, Vinnie Paulina? Welcome back. Wow, you were gone for a long time, living your best life. I was a bit of a problem for like a week and a half. Seems like it. Yeah, well, congratulations on getting Carl sucks on national television. Yeah, that was fun. That was your biggest accomplishment of the week.
Starting point is 00:01:24 No, it wasn't. It was my second biggest accomplishment of the week. What was your biggest accomplishment of the week? Well, Carl, yesterday, I proved what a virile, strong, badass motherfucker I am. Okay. It's a good setup. Because I... It could also be the punchline.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Hmm. I walked straight up to the goddamn Gates of City Hall of Gary, Indiana. You did. And here's proof. There it is, baby. In broad daylight, you puss. Oh, I'm the problem. Oh, I'll go to Gary, Indiana like a dude.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Didn't you, like, fly around it? I flew over it, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I drove. to it yeah well hey it sounds like it took a wrong turn there buddy nobody i don't know what to tell you everybody at home listening to this a people's champ's chant is starting producer chris drove through gary too i don't see him taking a victory lap about it no he drove on the highway he didn't stop and go find city hall and get out and take a picture that's not all you were doing in gary
Starting point is 00:02:19 indiana jacking it jacking it jacking it spike it smack there's a warrant out for your i was going to say i swear to christ i hope my DNA was not left there because, oh, no, I'm in a lot of trouble. Yep. We were supposed to have Dr. Steve on the show today. We were supposed to be doing creepiest medical professional. And then what did Dr. Steve go and do? God, COVID.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Yeah, are we allowed to say that? I don't know. I don't know either. He wasn't well this week. Yeah, he got a little sick. So he wanted to be on the show, but he wasn't able to. Please tweet at Dr. Steve, how angry you are at him. Please let him know how much he's let you down.
Starting point is 00:02:54 We changed her schedule around for Dr. Steve. Yes. and then the old guilt trip with the fever and the sickness and the illness like oh fine and the plummeting oxygen levels I mean my god fine fine we had less than 24 hours notice on what we were going to do today so we made it easy and we went wildcar bitches we got a wild card before we get into our creeps for this week we got to talk about what two weeks ago now when we did uh creepiest chinese person round two i didn't even pull the image I beat the fuck out of you. It was awesome. Oh, yes, you, dear. And what's amazing? Please.
Starting point is 00:03:34 It's going to make a pass. Man, this is a huge deal that's going to be nice here. The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour. The people's champion. There's by day now. Gotcha, Carl. A win for Vinny. We are now tied going into the next round.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I don't know how that happened, because I don't remember that episode. It was the one where the guy set the kindergarten. garden class on fire all right yeah okay all right you win fair enough well played sir so now it's one to one for this round yeah sorry it's taking us a second to get our bearings everyone it's been a while also i want to say that because viny went up and i still had the video that i have to put out of you doing the open mic set of doing patrick michael's material yeah stand-up material but you also kicked off our live show i did doing his material which got you out of doing any more creeps in roses episodes. Yes, that was the deal. Folks, it's announced here. Carl
Starting point is 00:04:30 needed an opener and I was willing to oblige in exchange for a significant form of payment. I love how many people didn't realize that that was Patrick Michael material. Oh, it was there are a lot of people who are just like, Vinnie's flat today. I don't know. And not chested, but like this material. Right. I feel that the second show went a little better than the first one. Yes. And no one has gotten to see the first one yet. So I'd really appreciate it. And why don't you just email it to me today and I'll release the whole thing on the creep off YouTube. So make sure you subscribe to us on YouTube and you'll be able to watch at your leisure whenever you want to. So there was actually a lot of people at it. Yeah. Have we
Starting point is 00:05:07 talked about it yet? I don't think we have. No, I don't think we did either. I think it happened right after we recorded the following day. Yes, right. So there were probably 25, 30 people in that room, which I was surprised by. I thought it would be a ghost town. And of course, when you go to an open mic, everyone in there thinks they're a comedian. So it's not a fun crowd. It's not because they're constantly judging. Yes. And they all think they know better. No one's there just have a good time.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Do you know how many of them would love it for me to go up there and actually fucking bomb like that? Do you know how many of them would? You did and they did. No, it was Makely. I was high-fiving people on the way out. It was great. I believe that you no longer have your spots at the comedy club here, right?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Because Word got around. That's not true. That you've lost your fastball. That's not true. it hasn't hit the internet yet i still technically have booked that's right i'll i'll send mark a link to it so you get it out fucker you still have one in the can that you owe pal and i have talked to many a listener and we have all made a decision okay when it comes to the seven second porn challenge okay well i don't think that you guys are a governing body but i think we
Starting point is 00:06:14 absolutely are you and the listeners are a new governing body for us all right i speak for the people baby yeah now uh we have decided that is now the 14 second porn challenge no on account of it took you so long. No, because I actually did do it on the airplane as you asked me to as we were taking off and I'll produce that video and we'll get that up for everyone to see. You did it on the airplane. Sure. Okay, so all you did was get filmed sitting on the airplane and you're going to put the audio of I was supposed to be there to witness it. This does not stand. I already know the shenanigans. I can see it in your face. I can see it in your face. I can see it in your crooked teeth
Starting point is 00:06:56 don't you make fart noises in me don't don't make fart noises to me Carl that's right Charles Carl I am drawing the fucking line stop making fart noises at me
Starting point is 00:07:06 all right fair enough and you know you didn't do it so we're a goddamn liar I mean we'll get that video produced I mean we'll get that video edited and upload in real shit shenanigans I call shenanigans
Starting point is 00:07:19 you are doing it in Wegmans now are you produce department are you ready dickhead Are you ready to get into this? I don't think you are. You're about to get owned son. Well, you're going first, so it's fine.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Let's do it. It's Wildcard, so I decided to create my own little category for myself because I found out that today is the first day of school. Oh, yeah. That's right. Oh, back to school. Back to school to prove to dad that I'm not a fool. Why would he need to go back to first grade?
Starting point is 00:07:54 in second grade. I mean, that was a little silly, right? That premise. That just showed his dedication to his father. I really commend young Billy Madison for that. Fair enough. My creep today came from a little place called Davers, Massachusetts, and his name is Philip Chisholm. Now, last year around this time, we did Creepiest Teacher, which I'd like to revisit the category. I think that's a fun one. But my category I created for myself was Creepious Student. Oh, okay. So I decided to have a little fun today. And Philip wasn't from Danvers. He had just moved there from Tennessee. This kid had a rough summer. He's 14 years old. His father had just left. And his mother and two siblings were forced to move to a one-room basement apartment in his aunt's house. Oh. Yeah. They're poor
Starting point is 00:08:41 people. He's not having a good time. He's a 14-year-old kid. Yeah. He wasn't handling it well. What type of console did he have for his video games? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. He was... Where you could have set a PS2 It made it seem really sad. I don't even know if they had a TV, Carl. I don't think they had a TV. This kid didn't even have a phone.
Starting point is 00:09:01 What? That's outrageous. Yeah. Actually, he did. It got him in a lot of trouble later. We'll talk about that. But according to some reports, there was one good thing at his school.
Starting point is 00:09:12 You see, our boy, Philip Chisholm... A little hot for teacher. Nice. Okay. Now, the teacher that we're talking about, her name is Colleen Ritzer. She was 24 years old, and I'm going to tell you, good-looking girl.
Starting point is 00:09:27 On October 22nd in 2013, like I said, he's 14 years old, his math teacher asked him to stay after school. The pair was last seen with her sitting at the computer and Chisholm next to her. There is no evidence that Ritzer ever engaged in anything inappropriate with this kid. By all indications, Ritzers' interactions were entirely professional, appropriate.
Starting point is 00:09:48 It is suspected that Chisholm was infatuated with Ritzler. and became very upset with her after she spurned his advances. Okay. So we don't really know what happened here yet. So he was hitting on the teacher that all the kids hit on. Probably. Right. Did you ever hit on a teacher car?
Starting point is 00:10:04 No, but we had one of those teachers. It's weird. It was a substitute teacher that was the hot chick teacher. Yeah. And then after I graduated, she was dating a guy who was from the grade ahead of me. Get the fuck. Is that fucked up? Like the most popular kid at school then was fucking her.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah, that checks out in Spencerport. It does, doesn't it? It does. But it goes to show you, though, and this, I thought this was interesting because you see this happen all the time. I know this is totally unrelated to what you're talking about. Yeah. But where the young hot teacher ends up fucking the students, you go, why, they're children, but it's like, those are the people you work with every day. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Right. Those are your, uh, you get a little crushy poe. Yeah. Little crushy poe. Right. It seems to legitimately happen quite a bit. If you are in high school, kids, hold out hope. Hold out hope.
Starting point is 00:10:48 That's what I want to tell you. Keep hitting on them and hold out hope. I would love to hear from a teacher who's been hit on by a student. Or fuck the student if you want to tell us that story, too. Yeah. Yeah. Because honest to God, I'm thinking about this, no way did I have the confidence to make a move on a teacher. Yeah, that's pretty balzy.
Starting point is 00:11:07 That's impressive. Well, let's talk about what happened next. I told you, October 22nd, he's staying after school. It's about 3 o'clock, school is out. according to CCTV footage, which stands for closed circuit television. I know what that stands for, Vinny. Yes. I'm just making sure everyone knows I do because some people made some comments on Reddit recently.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yeah, what kind of comments? That I thought it said for closed caption. Oh, okay. Because I may have misspoken once. Vinny, Vinny, Vinny. All right. I like that song. The teacher goes to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I'm going to show you some foot. footage of what happened here, okay? This is from the closed cache. This is the closed circuit camera outside. This is actual footage, for those of you were watching on YouTube, I will narrate for you listening. There is the teacher. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:02 She's cute. Yeah, she's cute. Her body could. And there's the student sticking his head out and just kind of watching her go. He looks a little pensive. Yeah, he's not sure what his next move is going to be. He starts to follow her, and then he goes back into the classroom. I was only like you look at the camera right there and went that.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Nope. And then comes out with the hood on. Oh, well, now we don't know who he is. And he's walking towards the bathroom and putting on a pair of gloves. Why is he putting gloves on? Why is he putting gloves on? Well, great question. Chisholm walked into the bathroom and raped Ritzer and slit her throat and stabbed her 16 times.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Oh, God. Okay. So he wanted video evidence, but he didn't want fingerprints anywhere. Correct. Good thinking. Now, here's a fun thing. thing that happened during the crime as he's raping the teacher
Starting point is 00:12:51 in the women's bathroom another student walks in sees his bare ass because I assume he's raping this woman doggy style and this person
Starting point is 00:13:07 thinks that he's changing so she turns around and walks out and leaves and thinks nothing of it so you don't think it was reverse cowgirl I do not I do not You're a stupid dumbass After this
Starting point is 00:13:21 He changes clothes Yeah He goes out He comes back And when he comes back He is uh What is this he's carrying with him? Is this a garbage tote?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yes he went from a blue hood hoodie to a red track jacket With his face completely exposed Wait He changed clothes Yes because he was covered in blood Oh man that's good point So the teacher's in this bathroom dead
Starting point is 00:13:45 he was covered in blood and he changes quick because he planned this Carl he very much planned this goes and gets this tote then he changes again in the bathroom after he's seen going in the bathroom
Starting point is 00:14:01 in a red track suit he comes out with the same tote that is now covered in blood and now he's wearing a white shirt and a mask surprise he's got so many change of wardrobe do you see all the blood on the hats oh yeah yeah that's gross that is fucking six
Starting point is 00:14:15 So he is on footage for all of this. He then takes her into the recycling bin. It seems like he had second thoughts at first, too, didn't it? When he first walked out, he's like, nah, maybe I shouldn't murder and rape my team. Yeah, yeah, I've been thinking about it for a while. I just need to, what do my counselors say? I've got to start executing on my ideas.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And I really just can't take another afternoon of sitting in the one-bedroom basement apartment with my little brother and sister. Calling me a virgin. I'll show them. Well, Carl. let's talk about how this gets creepier, shall we? All right. He takes her dead body out in the woods, where he rapes it again.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah? Yeah, necrophilia. He then left her body in a suggestive position. Her pants and underwear were removed. Her shirt was pulled up, her braw down, exposing her breasts, with her ass straight up in the air and her, like, in the doggy style sex position. He then placed a three foot stick into her body. okay they did not say which hole get created with it he then dropped a note that read i hate you all
Starting point is 00:15:22 next to her body who's he mad at here who's he really mad at dad probably he's like where where my daddy my daddy where as he's just walking away leaving his teacher's fucking dead slid open throat body in a pile of leaves here is the creepiest fact of all of this what do you think a 14 year old boy does after this situation. Oh, can I take a quick stab at that? Yeah, please. He took a... Jacking it, jacking it, jacking it, jacking it, spike in it, spike in it smack.
Starting point is 00:15:53 He took a quick stab at his teacher. Now, he did not do that. Oh, okay. He went to a movie theater. Oh, okay. And he went and watched the movie Blue Jasmine, which was directed by Woody Allen. Oh, you know what? I actually have audio of him coming out of the theater right after watching that movie.
Starting point is 00:16:10 It stinks. Fucking thing sucked! He didn't enjoy it. He did not like it. It's not for 14-year-olds, though. He went to go see a Woody Allen movie. Dude, Christ. That's bizarre.
Starting point is 00:16:20 A lot is bizarre here, Carl. A lot of weird shit going on. Yes. He went and saw a Woody Allen movie. He also, fun fact, bought the movie ticket with the teacher's credit card. So wait, he does want to get caught or he doesn't want to get caught because he's taking some precautions. He's a dumb 14-year-old.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Yeah, he's taking some odd precautions on this one. Yes, exactly correct. He is doing everything. Did he think going to be? a Woody Allen movie would maybe make it seem like it wasn't him? Listen, I was just in an art house film. I didn't even like Woody out. Of course it wasn't me. You ever see bananas? I really enjoyed bananas.
Starting point is 00:16:54 This is the fun chain of events here. Okay. Phillips' mom calls the police to report him missing around 6.30. So he was supposed to be home a couple hours ago. She's calling the police? Yeah. Oh, come on. He's 14. You got to wait 24 hours to Sarah calling in missing person.
Starting point is 00:17:10 She goes down to the police station. Not only she calls she goes down to the police station. busy body the cops are trying to find him the principal sends out an email to her staff about philip being missing one of the math teachers calls the principal and tells her that colin is also missing and that she's concerned because colline's last class was with philip wait a second how does this person know that colin is missing who knows maybe they had plans to do something she just didn't show up i wouldn't say that they're missing if you weren't at the comedy club today i'm not calling the police to try to figure out where you are like all right but he doesn't feel like hanging out today. It's fine. You'd be all upset. What kind of self-esteem do you have where someone stands you up and you call them in is missing? A couple hours later, police find him walking along a two-lane road. When the cops ask him what he's doing, he says, just walking, and they recognize him as
Starting point is 00:18:01 Philip Chisholm, and he says, yes, I am. And they go, is there anything dangerous in the bag? And would you like to know what 14-year-old Philip had to say? What did he say, Vinny? Yeah. Yes, there was. He said, yeah, go in there and take a look. And they opened it up.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And they found the box cutter. They found her underwear. They found her wallet. They found her turned on cell phone. They didn't give away. So he's just walking around with all of his evidence. Just walking around with it. What a dummy.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Caught a Woody Allen movie with it. What a dumb dumb. Now, when the cop said to him, whose blood is this? He goes, it's the girls. and she's in the woods by the school. In a hilarious pose. If you remember the song Face Down Ass Up, Officer, you're going to really enjoy this pose.
Starting point is 00:18:53 That's the way we like to fuck. So here's a fun fact. This is my absolute favorite fact during the trial. This comes out. So heard the testimony of the school custodium, who because of a language barrier, mistakenly cleaned up the bloody bathroom, which he described as a slaughterhouse.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Because of a language barrier. No, because he's an adult. What a fucking dummy. He just thought all the girls were cycling together. The cops had to be pissed. Like, did you clean this up? And he just goes, no, no, no, no. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Like, did you murder this woman? What's already broken? So the poor janitor. Either way, there was enough evidence. The judge gave this kid life in prison with the possibility of parole after 25 years, but that was only for the murder charge. That was the maximum we could get. He also gave the kid a 40-year concurrent sentence on the charges of aggravated rape and armed robbery, meaning that he will be 54 years old before he gets the chance to get out.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And listen, guys, if you're young and you're listening to this and you're thinking about doing something fucked up to your teacher, stop it. Get some help. Don't do it. Now, Carl, that's my creep this week. I don't like, I don't like that you're playing the world's greatest rock and roll song because I might even vote for you. You should. I feel like you're doing that to play a psychological game and make it seem like you're the guy who won this week. But before people declare.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Let me ask you a question, though. Do you think like if this kid was hitting on the teacher that there was anything in his mind that thought she was just going to look at him and be like? Yeah, come on my face. That's fine. Where'd you get that from? Damn it. Fantastic listener. I hate people.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I hate people so much. Yeah, come on my face. That's fine. By the way, this is episode number 78. We did it. Which you will recall episode one, I said. No one's listening to this and hasn't heard another episode yet. They're going back and listening to it.
Starting point is 00:20:58 They probably started at 78, which is possible because we just did the dick off a crossover show with Dick Masterson on our Patreon. That was so much fun. Which was fun. We did that from the Airbnb. B. Casey was there for some reason. Okay. Let's talk about Casey. How funny is that? It's you, me, Dick. We have Andy the Go. Croh is there.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Producer Chris. Judd from the Jingles Department. We're all hanging out. And I'm like, who was the fourth mic? I'm like, yep, I'll take that. Oh, my God. And you know what was really funny? Was that Croj called her husband Lurch? That was mean. I don't think he looks like Lurch.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I think he looks like a kind of retarded Neville Longbottom. Like from Harry Potter. Well, everyone's, uh, he looks like, uh, gets shots in at this poor guy. He looks like Neville Long Rotten, really. He's just not, he's just, he was eating bagels and looking at me while I was doing this whole, doing the show. It was off put it. But go check that out on the Patreon. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:53 A very fun episode. We discuss Ron Jeremy's legal troubles. Oh, God. And boy, are they many. Oh, boy. His attorney is my new favorite person. Yeah. Go listen to that episode.
Starting point is 00:22:03 If you're a patron, you haven't heard it yet. Do it. If you're not, time to pay up. bucks all it takes it's also available on who are these podcasts all right so don't forget that you can uh if you are joining the patreon join the true believers selse or true believers do you ever talk about the fact that we give people merchandise who sign up for our patreon do you get stickers there's a t-shirt yeah there's some cool shit we set some stuff your way yeah there's a mug you get some neat stuff all right i want to talk about a patophile named uh richard huckle britishman oh i gotta listen to
Starting point is 00:22:36 years now? Yes. Fine. Richard Huckle is a British man. When he was a teenager, he received a camera as a gift, a digital camera, and that got him into photography. Became really good with photography. He went to school, but it didn't really
Starting point is 00:22:51 take. He decided, you know, maybe he'll take a year off and travel a little bit. Richard Huckle spent a gap year in the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur. He worked in an orphanage. He was also placed as a Sunday school teacher
Starting point is 00:23:08 at a community church we can't name it so he went to Malaysia to work at an orphanage would you please hit the dead giveaway because something's also the Sunday school and he's got his camera with him for all the classes he's got his camera with
Starting point is 00:23:25 him and wow did he take to Malaysia he is a fan of this place Huckle had used his religion and a fast track teaching qualification to dupe his way into a poor community. He then spent nine years raping their babies, toddlers, older children.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Much of it he filmed and shared with other pedophiles. They love filming it, don't they? They love filming it and sharing it. I went to AEW fan fest. Yes. And I took a lot of pictures. Well, that's not illegal. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I understand the need to want to take pictures when you're having a great time. Right. Yes, you want to document it and you want to relive it over and over again. I get it. Of course, what Vinnie was really doing was just finding the fan as fucks at all of these events filming them and then messaging me. Just the fan of the people you've ever seen. I just wanted to make sure Carl knows how lucky he has it. Dude, people wearing, I don't think they make sizes for these people because their clothes didn't fit, but it's not their fault. They have what I like to call the front butt.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yes, they outgrew their clothing. Where the gut just hangs out and to, for some reason, the gut turns. into like a little butt like it has a crack and it's just like too. That's gross. I don't want to talk about it anymore. It was fun to watch. Let's get back into something that we can talk about. That's pedophilia. So aside from teaching Sunday school, working with churches, going to the orphanage,
Starting point is 00:24:52 he also had another strategy. His strategy would go as follows. He takes pictures of children he meets at the beach. He offers them prints of the photos to gain their trust and then speaks to the parents where after a conversation starts to bubble, he offers to teach free English lessons to the children. But of course, we know what his true intentions were. Right. So he's taking these really nice shots. He's half the students.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah, he's taking all these great shots in these children. And that becomes his cover because he's constantly taking photos with children and sharing them normally on Facebook like anybody else one. For nine years, Richard Huckle had been committing monstrous crimes against many of the children entrusted to his care. as a cover he posted many innocent photographs of his victims on the legitimate internet but on the encrypted websites of the dark web he also filmed and photographed himself abusing them and shared the images with other paedophiles oh boy that's not good and this guy was not it's pretty smart though he's now known as like the college educated guy what would he possibly possibly be doing. And he's doing everything he can to just make everything he does look innocent, which is
Starting point is 00:26:11 extra nefarious. Everyone trusted him because these are poor people. And this guy's going, teach them their kids English, bring them to the fancy parts of the city, showing him a good time, doing all this photography and stuff. And this guy was no slouch when it came to molesting children. He may be one of the best ever. Richard Huckle grew up those children. And he grinned them to a point that he was certain that no matter what he did to them,
Starting point is 00:26:35 They would not tell their parents of the abuse that they were suffering from him. So he goes on this website called The Love Zone. I'm familiar with this site? No. Good! You shouldn't be! It's not a good site! The content was shared to various websites, but one which stored the most of his content was won by the name of The Love Zone.
Starting point is 00:26:57 The Love Zone, when it was still available on the dark web, was one of the world's largest and most secure paedophile networks, with around 45,000 members. 45,000 members. That's lower than I thought. Is it? God, I don't know. There's how many billions of people on the planet?
Starting point is 00:27:14 We'll be doing the creep off for many years to come. I'm not worried about running out of content on this show. It's now episode 7,778. So this guy was not only molesting children. He was dating them. Huckle shared abuse pictures of her on the dark web and wrote, It's quite amazing to have stuck with the same child lover for so many years, and I hope, from the images you have seen, enjoyed watching her grow. It's not often in child porn, you can compare the bodies of a five-year-old and a 12-year-old that are the same girl.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I'm sure I'll have plenty more sex with her in the future. Very proud of himself for what he's able to accomplish. Fortunately... Fortunately, the love zone was compromised. In 2014, what users didn't realize, though, was that the site had been compromised by police. And Richard Huckel's near decade of child sex abuse was about to come to an end. So this guy was one of the most prolific producers on this website. And you get rewarded for more content that you share, especially if it's your own created content.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And then you move up and there's a crowdfunding aspect to it. So it's like a pedophile pyramid scheme? Yes, there's a crowd. funding aspect to it so he was actually raising money what with more videos and listen to this he had pedophile only fans he didn't yeah and he didn't respect other pedophiles who weren't living the life who are just enjoying the the fruits of his labor fucking posers which he made the hit list because he was a producer uploading exclusive fresh material on a weekly basis august officer paul griff's would say quote he belittled others on the forum for claiming they were paedophiles
Starting point is 00:29:02 he thought they were just sitting at home living off other people's experiences why he was out there living the life. He continued, Huckle talked about leaving a legacy where he'd be remembered because of the material he produced. He wanted to leave a legacy of CP.
Starting point is 00:29:19 He wanted to be the greatest CP producer of all time, and he might be. This went on, go on. I mean, the court records will have on, I'm sure. Yeah. So this went on for almost 10 years, and it's because this guy would photography, videos,
Starting point is 00:29:32 He was blurring out images in the background, so you couldn't tell where he was. He was, you knew how to scrape the metadata so that you wouldn't know things like time, date, things that get added to the file automatically. He was able to scrub all that stuff out. Now, the one thing he couldn't scrub out was the make of the camera that was taking the photos and videos. And what the police were doing is they were looking for, once they figured out he was in Malaysia, they were looking for anyone else posting images, anywhere on the legit web Facebook wherever. With that camera. With the same camera. And there's all his
Starting point is 00:30:07 fucking pictures. And there's all of his photos with him and all these little kids. And they went bingo gotcha. Hold on. I have actual audio of the cops. Bingo! Yeah. Bingo! That's M. Bingo!
Starting point is 00:30:23 So impressive work. It was actually Australian police that were able to figure out who this was. So he was flying back and forth to England in Malaysia, and he was flying back in 2014 for Christmas to be with his family. Oh, how nice. Yep, and he was arrested. Huckle was arrested at Gatwick Airport when he flew home for Christmas 2014.
Starting point is 00:30:47 He was eventually charged with 91 serious sex assaults on 23 children. They were victims in an extraordinary case that threatened to overwhelm investigators and the British courts. police believe he attacked up to 200 children Up to 200 children This guy Yeah, but how many teachers did he murder? Come on Carl
Starting point is 00:31:08 Might be the most prolific pedophile In the history Listen to this court case If they had to do This is unprecedented Richard pleaded Not guilty to all 91 charges Which took over an hour
Starting point is 00:31:21 To be read to the court At this point The prosecution started to prepare three Yes, three separate trials as they didn't believe a single jury should be subjected to all of the graphic evidence that would be presented. They'd also prepared counselors for each juror as they thought being shown all this graphic material of children being raped and abused would cause psychological problems for them after the trial had ended. It was so heinous, they didn't want to subject a single juror to everything.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I've never heard of such a thing. Yeah, come on. What do you think people want to do in jury do? They want the fucking details. So this is all crimes that happened in Malaysia, which, by the way, no parents have come out and said anything. No children have said anything. It's only because he got himself caught. All these cops did was break up a bunch of relationships.
Starting point is 00:32:13 It's only because he got himself caught by posting all this stuff on the internet. And what's interesting is that he also made trips to India and Cambodia and Laos. And they believe he was doing this everywhere, but they're not even sure. let me just say this carl i would pay a lot of money to have 200 children that's disgusting no that's you know watch this man get arrested in that airport yes yes i want to see the footage of that because this guy had to be so fucking shocked right because he thought he was so goddamn smart he was getting away with it for so long uh all right let's get i'd fucking need a cigarette after watching that i would just let it would be like white socks game
Starting point is 00:32:59 laughter. So he did, uh, he did plead guilty. He's just getting dragged out like, No, God! Actually, what's- No, God, please no. What's crazy is that he, I don't know what your drops go on for. What's crazy is that he was actually let out on bail after he was initially arrested. Get the fuck out here. They won't show the jury the evidence what they let about on bail. So they confiscated his computers, and it was all encrypted, so they couldn't get to... I mean, this guy was pretty buttoned up. They could not beat the encryption. But let's get into some of these crimes there.
Starting point is 00:33:38 In court, the prosecution would go on to say that Richard Huckle would make his way into poor communities in Malaysia, where he would go into abuse and rape girls, boys, babies, toddlers, and preteens. It was explained that Huckle's youngest victim was a baby just six months old, whilst another baby was attacked just after her first birthday. A further seven were aged between one and three when they were attacked by him whilst some were abused for years. And when they found these videos and these images, 20,000 of them, because this guy's prolific,
Starting point is 00:34:14 they did make this point. Police would never crack the encryption fully, and they say the 20,000 videos and pictures were quite literally a tiny percentage of what was stored on. his devices. So there were hundreds of thousands of images and videos that he was posting. You don't know that. He could just have like a big iTunes library. That's also very possible. He'd want to encrypt that in case he was into like Madonna or some weird stuff. He didn't want people to know about Madonna. Why does it Madonna? He's embarrassed about
Starting point is 00:34:47 Madonna. What's embarrassing about the material girl? Nothing. Why do they think that? Some isotopes albums on it. Right. That would have been a funnier. See that would have been a funnier joke. Now, uh, ladies and gentlemen, are you done with your creep? No, I got a couple more things that are really amazing about this guy. I know, I know I'm sucking all the air out of the room. Give me a second here. Oh, this guy's, this guy sucks, but he didn't murder his teacher and rape or dead body. No, much, much worse.
Starting point is 00:35:09 The harm that he caused, much, much worse. So this is him, a post that he put up on the love zone, bragging about how amazing is. And this is also him raising money for, um, the content he's producing. A three-year-old girl was as loyal to me as my dog, and nobody seemed to care. The three-year-old I can have so much sex with that it's just boring. Tom Out emoji. Well, at least she's now ready for business with Pido funding.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And it gets worse, Vinny. This guy decided he's so good at raping children that he's going to create a manual that you could order and then you can learn how to do this. Coco had also wrote a 60-page child sex abuse manual, explaining how to get away with exploiting children in Asia titled Peter Files in Poverty, Child Lover Guide. The Child Lover Guide, 60-page manual. And many, when you've been fucking children for near a decade,
Starting point is 00:36:07 you need to add something to it to make it a little bit more interesting. So what this guy did is he gamified it. You familiar with Gameify? No. Like weight loss apps will help you gamify. You know I'm not familiar with those. I know. You get little rewards and things.
Starting point is 00:36:24 maybe like an exercise app. Like candy? Well, no, you get points and then you can compete with others. Can you turn them in for candy? He had the weight loss app, no. So he had his own little system here. Then from November of 2013 to November of 2014, so one month before he was arrested, he started to implement a system into his abuse called Guido Points chart.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Now, how this would work is he would award himself points based on 15 categories, Rape would have scored a 15 and that would have been the worst category. While within one year of implementing this system, he amassed a score of 1,305, so this just goes to show you how much rape and abuse went on in that year alone. And remember, this went on for nearly 10 years. He racked up! This guy was a real jerk! Thirteen hundred points! When you get 15 points for rape, that's the... Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:20 You ready for a happy ending? Mr. Paulino. Yeah. Okay, there's a guy named Paul Fitzgerald who's in prison with Richard Huckle. Paul Fitzgerald is also a child molester. Great.
Starting point is 00:37:35 But he decides... Did he like the manual? He decides Richard's worse. After selecting Richard as his victim one week prior, he would put him through what's been described as a prolonged attack designed to humiliate and degrade.
Starting point is 00:37:50 His hands and feet had been bound before he was gagged and strangled with an electric cord. He was then raped and a spoon was inserted into his anus which entered his lower bowel. He had his jaw broken from having his head smashed on the sole floor around six or seven times before getting finished off when a pen fixed with a blade to its end was inserted up his nose and into his brain. So he was murdered in prison and props to Paul Fitzgerald. Well done, my friend.
Starting point is 00:38:21 We need a hero. Yes. How long did it take? It was over an hour, and I love that no one was the wiser. It was like, oh, where were the guards? I don't know. Actually, Carl, I don't think it was that no one was the wiser. They were just like, oh.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Exactly. The one Pito's killing the other Pito. Exactly. They're like, well, we'll see how this plays out. Cool. They're putting wagers on it. Yeah. God, man, being a prison guard's got to be fun.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Oh, it's got to be a lot of fun. I would imagine there's a lot of, like, napping. Oh, man, I was just taking a nap. when all that happened. I got to get Rick Matthews on here. He's a hysterical comic, and he was a prison guard at a fucking Attica. Oh, no shit. Okay. Let's do it. Rick's got some stories, I bet.
Starting point is 00:39:01 He would be good. Yeah, so they fucking brain knifed him, huh? Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that sounds like it'd be painful. Well, I would imagine, because I've had the COVID test and that's not fun. I can't imagine if there was a blade and they just kept going. Well, I'm going to make everybody feel better right
Starting point is 00:39:17 now. And just remind you that you go to the creepoff. to vote this week and while you're there you don't have her info on the screen yeah it's on the top there for creepoff.com follow us on instagram at creepoff pod on twitter wherever you buy stuff or on patreon wherever you listen to the podcast you sound defeated bennie is it because i won this week and it's obvious is that why you've like lost all of your spark yeah come up my face that's what was that all right what did you say caro What, Carl?
Starting point is 00:39:52 Vote for Vinny. Let's see that dick. Yeah, come on my face. That's fine. Ooh, my. All right. The Creep-off voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse, home of the famous Salt Museum. This museum is run 100% off Carl whining about losing again.
Starting point is 00:40:14 See you in Syracuse. I don't think he's been paying attention to the show. You lost this week. I beat you. I haven't been losing that much. I beat you, bitch. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:26 First voicemail. Hey, Vinnie, Paul Pena. It's your boy. You saw, ah, in California. I wanted to call you because then I sent this Carl,
Starting point is 00:40:36 he won't send it. So the Sal Carl Krant Burger is trying to make his own whack pack. That is real creepy. Let these goobers come on to his podcast and just sit there and silence to the jacking off or eating back bacon.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I don't know. Did you say you want to have your own Wack pack? Did you say you were trying to have your own whack pack, Carl? I've said a lot of things, probably. Okay. Well, somebody's calling to congratulate us. Carl, Vinnie.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Just wanted to fucking congratulate you on getting past 77 episodes. That's fucking huge. So in collaboration, man has a W. She's fucking giving me a credit card. And we're getting Carl some kid-sized Essex. And we're getting Vinny of membership to Jenny Craig. Oh, yes. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Love you, boys. pays out very good I'm an extra large kid size shoe so that'll be nice when you're buying those like the XL toddler
Starting point is 00:41:31 hey if any this is attorney Kevin Orlando just wanted to check in to understand Carl's been served so let's bleed this fucker dry we can probably convince him to settle before we even get to discovery
Starting point is 00:41:43 yeah we'll figure it out in the morning have a good day and that'll be about $125. So if you just want to send that, just go ahead. This Kevin Orlando guy, I'm starting to think is a whole scam. Yeah, I got to be honest with you. I gave him my cell phone number, but yet he still keeps leaving numbers.
Starting point is 00:42:03 He still keeps living our personal business on the voicemail. Yeah. All right. And last voicemail. Hey, creeps, this is Carl. The creep this week is Vinny. On our trip, he's not so soft all over with that woman. He tried on too many shirts.
Starting point is 00:42:20 when he was shartless. They tried on hats. It was a huge fat butt. He took up too many seats on the airplane. He took up too many seats at the White Sox game. He's an enormous parver of a fat fuck. But I survived Gary, Indiana. You sure did.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Carl, can we do? If people haven't listened to your calling on who are these podcasts this week, we recapped quite a bit of our trip in Chicago, and especially that white-sized game that was quite fun. We did have a lot of fun. fun. We did. I guess it's time for a skum parade. Hit me up, Carl.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Watch out for the skum parade. Oh, no, it's the scum parade. Oh, no, it's a scum parade, look out for the skum parade, making him in his day, his day. A Florida man named Marshaun, Browning, 24 years old, has been sentenced to 10 years in jail, or I'm sorry, five years in federal prison to be followed by 10 years of supervised release. Now, he'd do? Well, sounds serious.
Starting point is 00:43:33 He decided to go on Twitter and start tweeting child sex abuse images. Oh. And tagging Twitter accounts associated with elected officials, media outlets, and public figures. So I am anti-abusing children. I am not pro-abuse of children. but if you ruin an elected officials day good job buddy good on you there's better ways to do it
Starting point is 00:43:58 because you know that ruin that guy's day this guy's like a low rent Jeffrey Epstein like he just photoshopps Bill Clinton's face out of a guy who's actually fucking a child he didn't get the actual video on it I don't want us to harass politicians but I do think it would be funny if you have like a local level politician just keep sending them links to the creep off
Starting point is 00:44:17 yes I do want to harass harassed elected official. I think they need to be harassed more often. I kind of do too. You know why? Listen, I am not nice. I am not kind and I am wonderful. So let's just do it.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Just start tweeting at all the elected officials in your area that they should listen to the creep off. And tell them we get a real fucking job. Yeah. Living off our fucking tax money. Agreed. Now, this idiot was tagging all these people on Twitter. What was he thinking?
Starting point is 00:44:46 He's putting CP on Twitter? What a fucking moron. what the fuck was he thinking i mean he's like just mad at the weatherman he's like he was tagging like media people right now my picnic yeah i'll show this guy yeah tweet everyone tweet the weatherman in your area too tell him to listen to the creep off yeah make sure you tag us in it the official officers discovered more than 160 images in one video depicting sexual abuse of children on his phone including some as young as toddlers now they found all these on devices seized from his residence and the FBI
Starting point is 00:45:22 are the ones who investigated this because when you put things on Twitter it no longer is local it is now federal so don't be a fucking moron do you think this guy was into CP or he just thought that he could like grind people's gears a little bit
Starting point is 00:45:37 I don't know that's really odd behavior to do this five years in federal fucking prison for this if he makes it don't do it good luck yeah what was the name of the guy who was the murderer Paul Fitzgerald.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, he's going to be next to Paul Fitzgerald. Maybe they can transport him. You know what, though? Paul Fitzgerald, I feel like would like this guy. He's like, oh, you did it as a goof. Yeah. I got another guy over here. I'm going to rape and torture later if you want to come and hang out and watch.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Yeah. We're boys, though. You're cool. Yeah. Fuck you. Fuck you. You're cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Lehigh County woman, Lehigh, Pennsylvania, who produced child pornography involving an intellectually disabled girl is now facing 53 years in prison for her crimes. Zerida Flores lived in Allentown, Pennsylvania. I've heard of it. I'm living here in Allentown. This child has the syndrome of doubts. She was arrested in 2020, and she is accused of sexually assaulting a 13-year-old girl with intellectual disabilities. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Now, she filmed all of this stuff, and guess what social media platform. used to share it. The dark web, I would hope. No, no, no, Carl. Facebook Messenger. You can't put C.P. on F.B. Doesn't she know? Zuckerberg is spying on you and guess what? He's an arc. He's going to tell
Starting point is 00:47:04 on you. You can't put CPN FB. You can't put CP on FB. No CPNFB. How is it two stories in a row people putting child porn on mainstream social media? Yeah. Holy Stupidity bad. And this isn't just pictures of her doing it. She had other people over to abuse this child and filmed that.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Oh, so other people got busted, too? Yeah. Oh, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope they all do. So, uh, she is facing. Can you imagine you're, you're fucking this retired of 13 year old, like,
Starting point is 00:47:34 hey, what are you doing? What are you going to do with these images that you're taking right now? I don't put it on Facebook, are you? You're not going to put it on Flickr, are you? Hold on a second. Where are these images going? At least get my left side. Has I made my good side.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Um, can you use the sepia filter? Can we make this look like old Western times, so maybe they don't think it's recent? God. All right, we're going to stay in Pennsylvania, shall we? Speaking of the developmentally disabled, a Pennsylvania woman locked her developmentally disabled sister in a wooden cage. Yeah, I want to ask a question about this, because that's the headline. What does it matter what type of cage it is?
Starting point is 00:48:13 Oh, is a wooden cage? Oh, okay. That's extra shitty. Is that shittier in a metal? cage? Probably. I think there's like craftsmanship involved in a wooden cage. That's true. They're not saying this was nice. They're saying it was quite makeshift. And it was
Starting point is 00:48:26 in the middle of the living room. Like a fucking animal crate. Like a fucking shipping container. It had a soiled mattress in it. Yeah, I was going to ask about the soiled mattress. Because it just said it's a dirty mattress. Is there a toilet in this in this cage? Is she shitting the bed?
Starting point is 00:48:42 Uh, Carl. She got little to no medical care. She had a urinary tract, infection and a thing called randomiosis, a potentially life-threatening syndrome caused by the breakdown of muscle tissues. See, now if Dr. Steve were here, he could have pronounced that correctly and told what the fuck it is. Ron or something, Roses.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I don't understand what strip clubs are. Well, it's a strip club. Did you listen to weird medicine yet? No. He recounted his experiences with WATP Live. It was a lot of fun. Oh, good. I talked to him on the phone yesterday.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Did you? Yeah, in the car. We chatted for a little while. How was he doing? He wasn't feeling well, right? No, he was not feeling. well but I called him just to tell him I hope it feels better and to cheer up soldier good I'm glad you did that yeah we're not rescheduling him though man I would people cancel I'm fucking done
Starting point is 00:49:26 that's it yeah tell you get one chance yeah suck my dick cartiff electric you're done I'm walking I'm still on the show it's five minutes late today I just wrote off cardiff electric and I wrote off dr. Steve you're in the same category you're all out of here just kidding dr. Steve I love you you mensch this kid was getting like no care the family didn't look or care the mother died like seven years before and left the sister in charge of her. And she was just like, you know what? Just to build a cage.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Well, putting people in cages was fine last year at this time when Trump was in charge. But now it's not cool anymore. Now everyone's against it. Everyone's against the cages. Right. It's out of style now. I never asked you this. Do you get along with your mother-in-law?
Starting point is 00:50:10 I do. I love my mother-in-law. That's cool. She listens to every episode of Who Are These Podcasts and must think very negatively about me. Yeah, well, I don't think that it's doing her perception of you any favors. No, how about your mother-in-law? Vinny, you married a sweet Southern girl. I believe my mother-in-law on our wedding day told her, you don't have to do this.
Starting point is 00:50:34 So she's a smart woman. And told this to me at a breakfast I was paying for a few years ago. That was nice. I warned her about you, Vinny. I warned her. I warned her not to trust a gang. no she's all right i like my mother-in-law she's fine but uh this gentleman on nathan hayub and his mother-in-law did not get along no they got into a bit of a disagreement now when the
Starting point is 00:50:58 argument began the pair were on the first floor of a residence the mother-in-law reportedly ran up the stairs and locked herself in a bedroom in the home now well his mother-in-law was in this bedroom refusing to come out he went to his bedroom and grabbed his sword the man reportedly forced his way into the bedroom where his mother-in-law was hiding yeah He allegedly attacked her and used the sword to stab the woman in the chest. So I'm going to say that this is out of the mother-in-law because she's not wearing any armor. She put on no armor before this sword fight. That's kind of on her.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah. You're not going to last very long in a sword fight with no armor. Yeah. Some chain mail, aluminum foil, anything. Right. Exactly. Anything you get your hands on, honey. But this happened in Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Maddie. And when emergency medical responders arrived, they determined that the alleged victim wound was life-threatening. They sent her by air transport. And the police searched for Hubb, and they reported that they located the man close to the scene of the stabbing. They talked to the man about his involvement of the incident.
Starting point is 00:52:00 And detectives were searching for the evidence. They reported they discovered a sword near the victim's residence. They believed it was the weapon used to stab her. Yeah, I think. I know. This article was on, like, an attorney's website, right? Yeah. So they can't just come out and say, This was the sword that was used.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Like, I mean, it could have been anyone's sword. I mean, this area's lousy with swords just kind of out in the wilderness. I would have just felt like, I pulled this out of a rock over there. I'm the king of England. Right. You pulled that out of your mother-in-law. Don't lie to us. You're going to jail.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I like that she got stabbed with a sword and they determined that it was life-threatening. You think? Mm-hmm. Getting stabbed with a sword is oftentimes life-threatening. And how do you not just, if you're going to stab someone with a sword, how do you not just straight up running through. Like, if you're going to stab someone with the sword, how do you not just, like, go down to the hilt?
Starting point is 00:52:50 If you're going to do it. Like, you only get to do it once in your life. If you're going to stab some... I'm just saying, if you're going to do it, do it right. Hold on. You get your little... What? Soundboard. Don't interrupt me, cunt! You get your soundboard ready for this.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Hey, if you're going to stab your mother-in-law of the sword... Stop it. Get some help. Yes, there it is. Don't do it. She is in stable condition. So, apparently not a very good sword. That's this week's scub parade, everybody. Have you had fun today, Carl?
Starting point is 00:53:22 I found a really horrific person, and it's messed with my psyche. And I co-host the show with him. But other than that, it's been fun coming back. It's been too long. Yeah, buddy. I'm glad to get back into the swing of things. We'll be back regular time on Monday, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And I don't know if it's going to be Dr. Steve or not. He might be dead. Who fucking knows. Oh, could you imagine? Why would you say that? What? Well, I'm just saying you put it out there into the world. Like, that's terrible.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Well, everybody dies, Carl. That's a good point. Yeah, so that is this week's creep off. Remember, it's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Ciao Bella. Jurors also heard the testimony of the school custodian, who, because of a language barrier, mistakenly cleaned up the bloody bathroom, which he described as a slaughterhouse. Everyone knows who Ron Jeremy is.
Starting point is 00:54:29 He's been with over 4,000 women for the past 40 years, and he claims he's running ahead of Will Chamberlain in that arena. There's absolutely no reason for him. to ever be aggressive with women. He's had more women than you can count. This is stupid!

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